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depth art dropped earlier today. Brett, give me some of
your takeaways from the depth chart. What stands out to
you about the depth chart anything in particular.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Jerem Jordan, when he was on the show just a
couple hours ago, brought up a really interesting theory about
the quarterback room, because as we were progressing through fall camp,
the news we got was that it was narrowed down
to bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
And McKay hillstick.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But then when we asked, when they were asked about
QB two at media the other day, they said, well,
it's it's still up in the air between McKay and
Drayson were still working some things out. Depth chart comes
out today and it says McKay hill said, or Trayson Borgae. Now,
Jerem Jordan had a really interesting theory which I would
(02:59):
give a lot of credence to, and it's that Emerson
Guileman really threw a ranch into this whole thing. I
don't think they expected him to be this good this early,
and I think he really put his competitive juices to
the test with McKay and Drason. Now, Kalani was asked
about this today and he said the reason that they
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haven't made a decision is because they still want those
guys to compete, which I think is valid.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Obviously, you're still going into the game.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But then my question becomes, you can only play that
game for so long because when bear Bachmeier undoubtedly comes
out of the Portland game Portland State game, at some
point someone has to play quarterback after bear Bachmeyer. You
can no longer continue the facade of, oh well it's
two and three, someone is going in before the other one, and.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You maybe, are you gonna played bart Bachmeyer all four
quarters versus Portland stake exactly? My guess, he's just gonna
hand off, handoff, and he's not gonna pass it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
He's not. I could see a Rod doing that just.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Just for the sake of oh yeah, we don't have
say we gotta give him more reps, like obviously we
don't expose them an injury. But it's just the way
the cookie crumbles. We're gonna, we're gonna hand the ball off.
They're gonna, they're gonna give it. They're gonna let RB three,
R BE four, RB five, RB six in on the
action before they pull them, and.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You know they need to give them reps.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
They need to develop and they can justifight, even if
you're upwards of if you're up forty two to zero
like Tarlington was, you may still throw the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
On third and third and long well because to me
that you have more questions about who your running backs
are after, or at least the question is more pertinent
to me who's your running back after RB two than
the question. I don't need the question answered that much
of who's after Bear? I do need the question of
who is the running back after SIONI MOA, So I
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don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
If I wouldn't put.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Money on Vegas for a Rod to run Bear Bachmeier
out there the whole time, just to be a handoff merchant,
I wouldn't take that to Vegas, even though I could
see it happening. However, the argument does make sense because
you're more curious and more pertinently needing to know who
your deep running backs are as opposed to who your
next two quarterbacks are. However, if Bear doesn't play the
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whole game, this depth chart can only say so much.
Somebody has to come in before the other guy, and
my guess is you're not.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Giving them both equal playing time in that game.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I think the quarterback two battle is an interesting one.
Hillsteed versus Borgay. Will we see one of those two
quarterbacks or will we see all three? You know we
see all three Bear, Bachmeyer, Hillstead and Borgay.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I think that. I mean, if it truly is a competition,
that's what you want to see, right.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
If it's a competition then and it's truly as split
down the middle as they would like us to believe that,
my guess would be in a perfect world, you play
Barret Bachmeyer for the first half, McKay Hillstid comes in
for the third quarter, and Trayson Borgay come in for
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Uh, there are fourteen or designations across the chart. Klani
and crew and the Sids have been known to throw
a lot of oars out there are there any oars
outside of the quarterback room that you're intrigued by?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Here? Uh? And I would like to see more, I guess. Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Clarification on those oars.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
The tanner Wall one is a little interesting. After free
safety there's tanner.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Wall or Fila Teo Satawala.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, I would have figured that it would have been undisputed,
no contest tanner Wall at free safety one.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
That one is a little interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That one does feel like, uh we we we.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Threw it in.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
I don't, I don't know, I don't. I have a
hard time buying that one.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, I can tell you follow Tew did pick off
a lot of passes. Uh were they were they created
or were they received?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Right? Is the question?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And j Hill did have a lot of great things
to say about him through the entirety of fall Camp,
so I don't have any doubts that he will see
the field a lot. But to me, if anyone in
your dB room cornerbacks are safeties, I would have thought
that tanner Wall would be the one guy who wouldn't
have an or anywhere near his name.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Raater de Mooney is your number one strong safety or
falla tasal back up.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
That positioned as well.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Talan Alfree is listed as a third strong safety with
no or delineation.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yeah, that is interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
The fact that he's in there at strong and free
with an or on both means that he made it
a really really close race with both those guys, which
is great news because again we we've talked about like
there may be sets Jay Hill talked about this, there
may be sets where you have three safeties in. Obviously
we know Tommy Prasss is gonna be in at Nickel,
so you're already gonna have that anyway. But it does
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make you feel good when there's questions about potentially how
deep your cornerback room is because Jay Hill said that
there's three guys that who can play, which it's interesting
that he said that there's no oars anywhere in the
cornerback room, but maybe that's just because uh, they're down
Jonathan could.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, what's interesting is that, you know, there was a
battle going on with Evan Johnson and Trey Alexander the
third right, and Evan Johnson didn't even get Tray.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Didn't get the OR designation.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Evan Johnson is that uh you know that corner, uh,
the one of the two corners there. Mary Bomba on
the other side. Jayden Dunlap is in the too deep
as well. Uh, So I thought that was interesting let's
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former boy, great super Bowl champion. We got pretty upping
on the line. Be Pop, how you live a buddy?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
What's that gush? Always?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yes, indeed, always a pleasure. We just got the depth chart, Uh,
be Pop, we're going through it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Is there any one position, you know, offensively or defensively
where you would like to see a little bit more
depth on your depth chart?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Well?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I think always you want more depths a wide receiver
just because they want, you know, you run three wide
receiver sets pretty much off the time, I'd probably seventy
time then three wide receiver sets. But to capture that,
they have brought in more tight ends.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
You know, so they're.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Which is one back to two tight ends, one back
on one tight end, maybe even thirteen, So you know,
I think they addressed that with their tight end situation.
But that that's one that I felt like there could
be a little more depth than Hagen also emerging number five,
he's been or the Hope Hope right number five.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, Cody Hagen, Okay.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Hagan sa Hagen. Yeah, he's really come along.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
This guy's got filled stretch ability with that. He's really
good at breaking off route, which is like pretty much
indefensible because you've got to respect the speed. If not,
he'll break it off and then you're just reacting late.
He's gonna have a nice little dig or in out
rout or butt hook or you know, he does a
nice tot tho slice. So anyway, but yeah, I think
wide receiver I like seymore death. I think also along
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the defensive line, the interior guys, you'd like to see
more depth. And then cornerback, you know, I think qurnerback's
kind of the same thing. You're going to be facing
a lot of multiple wide receiver like three plus wide
receiver formations consistently, and so that that stresses that position group.
So you'd like to be five to six seven deep,
you know, have that position roll guys in. I mean,
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you know, that's that's kind of the ideals in this
world the college football and even just pro football generally,
you have so much spread offense. You know, having the
secondary and wide receiver depth is pretty big.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The quarterback room, Bear Bachweire's the guy, but no QB
two delineation. It's an or McKay hill said, or Drason
Boord gap thought that was in true that the qb
DO competition is still open.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, I mean it's uh, neither one of those guys
like it was interesting, is like when they were in
the mix, neither one of those guys really established anything
of consistency to be like, yeah, this is who and
what I want to be, you know, And maybe it's
just it's hard.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
You know, playing playing quarterback at the BYU is hard.
You're in the small lines.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
There's a lot of pressure on you, like, for for example,
Trades in the first coup practice, you could just see
he looked like it was too big for him, you know,
being at BYU.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Maybe I don't know what it.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Was, but it was just there's something about it that
just he didn't didn't sit well with him, wasn't comfortable
with And then with McKay, it's just kind of like
an inconsistency of I can't put my finger on it,
but it's it's like he makes some good throws and
all of a sudden, it just like.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
It wills fall.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
You know, You're like what you know? So it's I
get why I thought that. And again it goes just
down to the consistency and you gotta stack your days man,
and those guys just had a hard time I think
stacking days for whatever reason. You know, maybe, like I said,
maybe there's the pressure of the competition. You know, maybe
it's just maybe there's Bear being there because Bear is
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a big guy, imposing figure, can sit the ball and run,
you know, and maybe that that just put a lot
of pressure on him.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Knowing that, wow, we got.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
A really up our.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Game if we're gonna fend off this freshman.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And that sometimes puts so much stress that you know,
it just kind of buckles, you just kind of buckle
under pressure.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, I've been trigued to see how many quarterbacks actually
play in this Portland State game. Portland State is not
a good football team. They lost to Tarlington State forty
two to zero. They looked piss poor in all facets
of football. And I imagine be what he was gonna
lay a drubbing on him similar to that akin to
Tarlington Tarlington State did. So that makes a question we
need to see three quarterbacks, four quarterbacks at Lavelle on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Well you gotta do it, You got to do you
know what I mean. I've seen this before. I've seen
it with big schools like Alabama, other big time schools
to where you know, a team that's the lower FTS
level team goes to place horrendous, maybe a week before
they show up, thinking they just can sleep walk through things,
and all of a sudden, it's it's a little bit
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more of a battle than you had anticipated. So guys
are in longer, and so I mean, this is one
of those weeks to where and I think this is
kind of the design behind the week, but still you
have to look at yourself, not against who you're facing
head to head. You got to look at yourself in
terms of who's going to grow at the fastest rate,
because that's really when you know this is an NFL.
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This is what's great about the playoffs now, because of
the playoffs and qualifying for them doesn't require a conference
championship per se, the ability of improvement becomes the premium
because if you get hot at the wrong time, and
you can get hot at a higher level than everybody else,
you're gonna win this conference. You know, Arizona State proved
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that last year. They started out kind of like even
in the pack, and then they improved at a rate
greater than everybody else and then finished strong. So what
does that mean for Portland State. You have to treat
this week with great amount of urgency and you can't
let it just be a like a throwaway week. You
literally have to look at yourself like, hey, even though
we're not competing against our big twelve fos directly, we're
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indirectly competing against them in terms of how how much
and how fast we're going to grow. And that's the
mentality they have to be. And so one thing I
know about these kids, I've seen it in a number
of practices I was at just in the because I
was at what like three or four, but they're interesting practices.
I was at in training camp where it's like the
practice practices where the human nature tends to seep in
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and guys tend to relax. And they didn't do that,
and it was internal, and it was it was kind
of it was kind of like ownership of the team
took over and made sure they didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
One of them was, you know, right after a pad
of practice, I think it was a Friday before that scrimmage,
the first scrimmage, and everybody's in no pads and you're thinking, Okay,
this is gonna be one of those like really disastrous
days because everybody's saving the show for the scrimmage and
they're still kind of tired from that. You know that
padd of practice the day before, and that wasn't the case.
I mean, these guys were flying around to where coaches
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were having to tell guys to slow down. So I'm
anticipating them really attacking this week and really attacking just
having the opportunity to play.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Love that breakdown.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
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we not talking enough about right now? Do you think
that we need to get to know? I know you
mentioned Cody Hagen. I think he's one of the guys
we really need to get our eyes on. I think
he's super dynamic. He was actually one of the first
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guys we interviewed at fall camp because I was like,
this kid's gonna have a breakout year if he's healthy.
In my opinion, who else should we be keeping an
eye on?
Speaker 6 (15:58):
That's a good question, man, I mean, you ideally like
to see somebody emerge. You know, like Logan. I mean
he's like, what a fifth or sixth year senior where
he could just be a dominator. I think he's always
been solid, but it's like, you know, he's got a
lot of experience, he's got enough ability. I would like
to see him take the next step and really be
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a playmaker, you know, not just a guy who fits,
but a guy who goes out and makes impactful plays.
You know. I just just guys like that, like tal
Seely's another guy the the transfer from Texas.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I mean, he showed really well the training camp.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
He's a guy that man, he's got the total package speed, power, athleticism, length,
and he's a coachable kid. He worked really hard and
you know he takes to everything you tell him. And
you see the ability, you know, so it's like he's
that kind of guy. So I look at more of
that position, like these head rushers. They're because they're the
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deepest positions. Everybody knows the samli and the way they
call him would be the sam linebacker in the open end,
which in reality they're both outside backers in a odd
front defense. Those are the guys that they're the most
deep position on the whole team. And nobody's talking about them,
but that I would say about the year's end, there's
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gonna be at least two guys that emerged from that
are going to be really big time household names, big
time playmakers.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Love that. Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Do you have any concerns about this BYU offense right
now that any gaps?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, any weaknesses?
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, I mean you got a freshman quarterback. Now, that's
always I.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Think a huge concern.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Just decision making and then the experience of decision making.
You know, a lot of times these guys have to
see it a couple of times in real life, you know.
And I'm not saying he's gonna see it in Portland State.
You know, it's just gonna be interesting. I think, you know,
it's gonna.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Be fun for Roderick because Roderick is gonna.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Have to find a way to get him to play
free without completely just having them run the ball every
single time, and then at the same time, you know,
having this be complex enough at least illusionary wise or
perception wise to a defense where it's it's a typical
rounder of offense, which is there's a lot of adjustment directions,
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there's motions, there's shifts, there's there's a few layers of
decisions that have to be made on the defensive side,
and so that, to me, I think is going to
be fun for him to figure out a way to
keep the timple for the offense, but create that illusion
of complexity for the defense, and also keep the timple
enough to where you can maximize there without really putting
him in rough situations which the running game is gonna
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be huge, and his ability to run is gonna be huge,
which we haven't even seen yet, Like, nobody even knows
what that really is going to look like, you know,
except for his high school film, but we can kind
of project it, you know, based off of his size,
as movement skills, his power, and what he's done already
in high school. But I mean, this isn't high school,
you know, this is this is P four football. It's
a very different levels. So yeah, they're very I'm very
(18:58):
concerned about the freshman as the as the quarterback, which
I think that's just a natural way anything should be
based off of the history of how freshmen playing and
just a human nature element of just learning a new skill.
Because he's playing college ball is a way different level
than high school ball. And being a college quarterbacks almost
like a completely different position than the high school quarterback
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just because of the intricacy of the detail and the
precision that they have to play with is just it's
it's a completely different way of doing it. And so yeah,
well we'll see, like I said, but there's there's a
good support group around him. But that's that's the biggest
concern for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Brady papinga former BA Great Super Bowl champion, tips some
Cougar football here on ESPN. The fan thought it was
interesting in the secondary they move Tommy passes.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Over to that Nickels spot.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Uh, they have Tanner Wall free safety final tows, that's
a while backing up both strong and free radul to
winy it's strong.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean, how much nickel do you think we're going
to see this season?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Well, a lot, you know, and that's just just just
the function of a lot of teams are gonna run,
you know, eleven personnel, twelve personnel with a tight end
that probably is going to be considered a like a
slot receiver. You know, a lot of the air raid offenses.
People don't realize they'll list a tight end on their roster,
but in fact they're actually a slot receiver and they
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just like the size.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
They like that he's a big target.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
But but you're still true, you know, he doesn't rent block.
You know, I'm forgetting the latest guy who did that
that became pretty big. But just you know, I'd say
the close comp to him would be like a Jimmy
Graham where he's like a basketball time player finesse. But
you know, and so that and I think that's why
you take a guy like a safety body and you
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put him at the nickel because that creates a bigger nickel,
you know. So you got a big nickel and then
you got more of your speed guy nickel if they
did put like enough wide receivers out there.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Because process, I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Not sure if he's a real good you know, cornerback
nickelback types, but he's he's for surely a very good safety.
So that's like you're playing when you have a bigger
body out there. It's very similar to playing down safety
in a in a in a single safety high defense,
you know. So that makes sense.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
But yeah, we're gonna see a lot of nickel.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
And uh, the safety position too is another deep position,
so you can see where they're trying to get their
best eleven on the field, and sometimes they do that.
You got to create new personnel groupings. You gotta move
some guys around, like like with Proccess moving to Nickel
and uh and because to me, you want to just
you gotta be foxible enough to get your eleven best
on there.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
And uh.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
And if you've got a bunch of guys that are
loaded up at one position group, okay, well that means
that some of those guys are gonna have to cross
train and there's gonna have to be some some creativity
scheme wise to get those guys.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
On the field.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know the tight end room with Carson, Ryan Key
and ned there was some question marks around who would
be tight end too Key and Need seems to be
a big, strong blocking in line tight end.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But uh is twelve personnel alive and well in Cougar
Country once again, Well.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
I think it has to be because of well, I
don't think I should say it has to, but I
think it's something that's going to be featured because of
the necessity to have to ball control, run the ball,
keep it an offense on time with.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Your own young quarterback.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
And that's the best way to do it get big
bodies in there, and they're just they're not just one
dimensional big bodies either. These guys can can't be spread out,
flexed out, they can't be utilized pretty effectively in the
past game. But but what I like about it is
it creates a a running game that incorporates a physical quarterback.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
That's physical. It's a pounding, it's.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
A very uh you know, uh kind of wear you out,
kind of off a deep offense for a defense.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
To where you got a big back in your quarterback
and then you.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Put your big tight end bodies out there and you
can just pound a defense, especially when these defenses are
so accustomed to doing like I said earlier, which is
lining up a nickel or lining up spread and playing
more against receiver type bodies or finesse.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Tight ends, you know.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
And so this is kind of a I think a
nice little curve all that Roder will throw out these
teams to see if they're boned up with their physicality.
I think if you watch that Iowa State game, this
would that would this would be a very different style.
That Iowa State game was a big spread game. I
know that Ioway State likes to load it up to
use their tight ends. But in terms of you know,
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Kansas State and even Iowa State, their defenses are very built.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
I would say to.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Play more of a finesse style than a physical smash
mouth style. And as we both know what those two quarterbacks,
they're not physical runners like our guys, you know. So
it's a cool I think it's a cool thing to
experiment with because if you can establish it as a physical,
smash mouth but quarterback centric run games where you got MOA,
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you got LJ, and then you got your big quarterback
and that's three big. That's like a full house backfield
with two tight ends that you can just hammer dudes
with and then play affs pass them. Because most teams
reaction to that, it's going to be throwing out big
bodies and it's like, okay, now we'll put in space
and we'll throw over the top of you. So I
like the idea. I think in theory it could be
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your takeaways from the depth chart. What stands out to
you about the depth chart anything in particular.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Jerem Jordan, when he was on the show just a
couple hours ago, brought up a really interesting theory about
the quarterback room, because as we were progressing through fall camp,
the news we got was that it was narrowed down
to bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
And McKay hillstick.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But then when we asked, when they were asked about
QB two at media the other day, they said, well,
it's it's still up in the air between McKay and
Drayson were still working some things out. Depth chart comes
out today and it says McKay hill said, or Trayson Borgae. Now,
Jerem Jordan had a really interesting theory which I would
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give a lot of credence to, and it's that Emerson
Guileman really threw a ranch into this whole thing. I
don't think they expected him to be this good this early,
and I think he really put his competitive juices to
the test with McKay and Drason. Now, Kalani was asked
about this today and he said the reason that they
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haven't made a decision is because they still want those
guys to compete, which I think is valid.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Obviously, you're still going into the game.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But then my question becomes, you can only play that
game for so long because when bear Bachmeier undoubtedly comes
out of the Portland game Portland State game, at some
point someone has to play quarterback after bear Bachmeyer. You
can no longer continue the facade of, oh well it's
two and three, someone is going in before the other one, and.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
You maybe, are you gonna played bart Bachmeyer all four
quarters versus Portland stake exactly? My guess, he's just gonna
hand off, handoff, and he's not gonna pass it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
He's not. I could see a Rod doing that just.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Just for the sake of oh yeah, we don't have
say we gotta give him more reps, like obviously we
don't expose them an injury. But it's just the way
the cookie crumbles. We're gonna, we're gonna hand the ball off.
They're gonna, they're gonna give it. They're gonna let RB three,
R BE four, RB five, RB six in on the
action before they pull them, and.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
You know they need to give them reps.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
They need to develop and they can justifight, even if
you're upwards of if you're up forty two to zero
like Tarlington was, you may still throw the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
On third and third and long well because to me
that you have more questions about who your running backs
are after, or at least the question is more pertinent
to me who's your running back after RB two than
the question. I don't need the question answered that much
of who's after Bear? I do need the question of
who is the running back after SIONI MOA, So I
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don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
If I wouldn't put.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Money on Vegas for a Rod to run Bear Bachmeier
out there the whole time, just to be a handoff merchant,
I wouldn't take that to Vegas, even though I could
see it happening. However, the argument does make sense because
you're more curious and more pertinently needing to know who
your deep running backs are as opposed to who your
next two quarterbacks are. However, if Bear doesn't play the
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whole game, this depth chart can only say so much.
Somebody has to come in before the other guy, and
my guess is you're not.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Giving them both equal playing time in that game.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I think the quarterback two battle is an interesting one.
Hillsteed versus Borgay. Will we see one of those two
quarterbacks or will we see all three? You know we
see all three Bear, Bachmeyer, Hillstead and Borgay.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I think that. I mean, if it truly is a competition,
that's what you want to see, right.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
If it's a competition then and it's truly as split
down the middle as they would like us to believe that,
my guess would be in a perfect world, you play
Barret Bachmeyer for the first half, McKay Hillstid comes in
for the third quarter, and Trayson Borgay come in for
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Uh, there are fourteen or designations across the chart. Klani
and crew and the Sids have been known to throw
a lot of oars out there are there any oars
outside of the quarterback room that you're intrigued by?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Here? Uh? And I would like to see more, I guess. Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Clarification on those oars.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
The tanner Wall one is a little interesting. After free
safety there's tanner.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Wall or Fila Teo Satawala.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, I would have figured that it would have been undisputed,
no contest tanner Wall at free safety one.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
That one is a little interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That one does feel like, uh we we we.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Threw it in.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
I don't, I don't know, I don't. I have a
hard time buying that one.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, I can tell you follow Tew did pick off
a lot of passes. Uh were they were they created
or were they received?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Right? Is the question?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
And j Hill did have a lot of great things
to say about him through the entirety of fall Camp,
so I don't have any doubts that he will see
the field a lot. But to me, if anyone in
your dB room cornerbacks are safeties, I would have thought
that tanner Wall would be the one guy who wouldn't
have an or anywhere near his name.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Raater de Mooney is your number one strong safety or
falla tasal back up.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
That positioned as well.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Talan Alfree is listed as a third strong safety with
no or delineation.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yeah, that is interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
The fact that he's in there at strong and free
with an or on both means that he made it
a really really close race with both those guys, which
is great news because again we we've talked about like
there may be sets Jay Hill talked about this, there
may be sets where you have three safeties in. Obviously
we know Tommy Prasss is gonna be in at Nickel,
so you're already gonna have that anyway. But it does
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make you feel good when there's questions about potentially how
deep your cornerback room is because Jay Hill said that
there's three guys that who can play, which it's interesting
that he said that there's no oars anywhere in the
cornerback room, but maybe that's just because uh, they're down
Jonathan could.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, what's interesting is that, you know, there was a
battle going on with Evan Johnson and Trey Alexander the
third right, and Evan Johnson didn't even get Tray.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Didn't get the OR designation.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Evan Johnson is that uh you know that corner, uh,
the one of the two corners there. Mary Bomba on
the other side. Jayden Dunlap is in the too deep
as well. Uh, So I thought that was interesting let's
get out to the hotline, get caught up with a
former boy, great super Bowl champion. We got pretty upping
on the line. Be Pop, how you live a buddy?
Speaker 6 (08:48):
What's that gush? Always?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yes, indeed, always a pleasure. We just got the depth chart, Uh,
be Pop, we're going through it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Is there any one position, you know, offensively or defensively
where you would like to see a little bit more
depth on your depth chart?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
Well?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
I think always you want more depths a wide receiver
just because they want, you know, you run three wide
receiver sets pretty much off the time, I'd probably seventy
time then three wide receiver sets. But to capture that,
they have brought in more tight ends.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
You know, so they're.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Which is one back to two tight ends, one back
on one tight end, maybe even thirteen, So you know,
I think they addressed that with their tight end situation.
But that that's one that I felt like there could
be a little more depth than Hagen also emerging number five,
he's been or the Hope Hope right number five.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, Cody Hagen, Okay.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Hagan sa Hagen. Yeah, he's really come along.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
This guy's got filled stretch ability with that. He's really
good at breaking off route, which is like pretty much
indefensible because you've got to respect the speed. If not,
he'll break it off and then you're just reacting late.
He's gonna have a nice little dig or in out
rout or butt hook or you know, he does a
nice tot tho slice. So anyway, but yeah, I think
wide receiver I like seymore death. I think also along
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the defensive line, the interior guys, you'd like to see
more depth. And then cornerback, you know, I think qurnerback's
kind of the same thing. You're going to be facing
a lot of multiple wide receiver like three plus wide
receiver formations consistently, and so that that stresses that position group.
So you'd like to be five to six seven deep,
you know, have that position roll guys in. I mean,
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you know, that's that's kind of the ideals in this
world the college football and even just pro football generally,
you have so much spread offense. You know, having the
secondary and wide receiver depth is pretty big.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The quarterback room, Bear Bachweire's the guy, but no QB
two delineation. It's an or McKay hill said, or Drason
Boord gap thought that was in true that the qb
DO competition is still open.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, I mean it's uh, neither one of those guys
like it was interesting, is like when they were in
the mix, neither one of those guys really established anything
of consistency to be like, yeah, this is who and
what I want to be, you know, And maybe it's
just it's hard.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
You know, playing playing quarterback at the BYU is hard.
You're in the small lines.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
There's a lot of pressure on you, like, for for example,
Trades in the first coup practice, you could just see
he looked like it was too big for him, you know,
being at BYU.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Maybe I don't know what it.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Was, but it was just there's something about it that
just he didn't didn't sit well with him, wasn't comfortable
with And then with McKay, it's just kind of like
an inconsistency of I can't put my finger on it,
but it's it's like he makes some good throws and
all of a sudden, it just like.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
It wills fall.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
You know, You're like what you know? So it's I
get why I thought that. And again it goes just
down to the consistency and you gotta stack your days man,
and those guys just had a hard time I think
stacking days for whatever reason. You know, maybe, like I said,
maybe there's the pressure of the competition. You know, maybe
it's just maybe there's Bear being there because Bear is
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a big guy, imposing figure, can sit the ball and run,
you know, and maybe that that just put a lot
of pressure on him.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Knowing that, wow, we got.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
A really up our.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Game if we're gonna fend off this freshman.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And that sometimes puts so much stress that you know,
it just kind of buckles, you just kind of buckle
under pressure.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, I've been trigued to see how many quarterbacks actually
play in this Portland State game. Portland State is not
a good football team. They lost to Tarlington State forty
two to zero. They looked piss poor in all facets
of football. And I imagine be what he was gonna
lay a drubbing on him similar to that akin to
Tarlington Tarlington State did. So that makes a question we
need to see three quarterbacks, four quarterbacks at Lavelle on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Well you gotta do it, You got to do you
know what I mean. I've seen this before. I've seen
it with big schools like Alabama, other big time schools
to where you know, a team that's the lower FTS
level team goes to place horrendous, maybe a week before
they show up, thinking they just can sleep walk through things,
and all of a sudden, it's it's a little bit
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more of a battle than you had anticipated. So guys
are in longer, and so I mean, this is one
of those weeks to where and I think this is
kind of the design behind the week, but still you
have to look at yourself, not against who you're facing
head to head. You got to look at yourself in
terms of who's going to grow at the fastest rate,
because that's really when you know this is an NFL.
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This is what's great about the playoffs now, because of
the playoffs and qualifying for them doesn't require a conference
championship per se, the ability of improvement becomes the premium
because if you get hot at the wrong time, and
you can get hot at a higher level than everybody else,
you're gonna win this conference. You know, Arizona State proved
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that last year. They started out kind of like even
in the pack, and then they improved at a rate
greater than everybody else and then finished strong. So what
does that mean for Portland State. You have to treat
this week with great amount of urgency and you can't
let it just be a like a throwaway week. You
literally have to look at yourself like, hey, even though
we're not competing against our big twelve fos directly, we're
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indirectly competing against them in terms of how how much
and how fast we're going to grow. And that's the
mentality they have to be. And so one thing I
know about these kids, I've seen it in a number
of practices I was at just in the because I
was at what like three or four, but they're interesting practices.
I was at in training camp where it's like the
practice practices where the human nature tends to seep in
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and guys tend to relax. And they didn't do that,
and it was internal, and it was it was kind
of it was kind of like ownership of the team
took over and made sure they didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You know.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
One of them was, you know, right after a pad
of practice, I think it was a Friday before that scrimmage,
the first scrimmage, and everybody's in no pads and you're thinking, Okay,
this is gonna be one of those like really disastrous
days because everybody's saving the show for the scrimmage and
they're still kind of tired from that. You know that
padd of practice the day before, and that wasn't the case.
I mean, these guys were flying around to where coaches
(15:16):
were having to tell guys to slow down. So I'm
anticipating them really attacking this week and really attacking just
having the opportunity to play.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Love that breakdown.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
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we not talking enough about right now? Do you think
that we need to get to know? I know you
mentioned Cody Hagen. I think he's one of the guys
we really need to get our eyes on. I think
he's super dynamic. He was actually one of the first
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guys we interviewed at fall camp because I was like,
this kid's gonna have a breakout year if he's healthy.
In my opinion, who else should we be keeping an
eye on?
Speaker 6 (15:58):
That's a good question, man, I mean, you ideally like
to see somebody emerge. You know, like Logan. I mean
he's like, what a fifth or sixth year senior where
he could just be a dominator. I think he's always
been solid, but it's like, you know, he's got a
lot of experience, he's got enough ability. I would like
to see him take the next step and really be
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a playmaker, you know, not just a guy who fits,
but a guy who goes out and makes impactful plays.
You know. I just just guys like that, like tal
Seely's another guy the the transfer from Texas.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I mean, he showed really well the training camp.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
He's a guy that man, he's got the total package speed, power, athleticism, length,
and he's a coachable kid. He worked really hard and
you know he takes to everything you tell him. And
you see the ability, you know, so it's like he's
that kind of guy. So I look at more of
that position, like these head rushers. They're because they're the
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deepest positions. Everybody knows the samli and the way they
call him would be the sam linebacker in the open end,
which in reality they're both outside backers in a odd
front defense. Those are the guys that they're the most
deep position on the whole team. And nobody's talking about them,
but that I would say about the year's end, there's
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gonna be at least two guys that emerged from that
are going to be really big time household names, big
time playmakers.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Love that. Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Do you have any concerns about this BYU offense right
now that any gaps?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, any weaknesses?
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, I mean you got a freshman quarterback. Now, that's
always I.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Think a huge concern.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Just decision making and then the experience of decision making.
You know, a lot of times these guys have to
see it a couple of times in real life, you know.
And I'm not saying he's gonna see it in Portland State.
You know, it's just gonna be interesting. I think, you know,
it's gonna.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Be fun for Roderick because Roderick is gonna.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Have to find a way to get him to play
free without completely just having them run the ball every
single time, and then at the same time, you know,
having this be complex enough at least illusionary wise or
perception wise to a defense where it's it's a typical
rounder of offense, which is there's a lot of adjustment directions,
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there's motions, there's shifts, there's there's a few layers of
decisions that have to be made on the defensive side,
and so that, to me, I think is going to
be fun for him to figure out a way to
keep the timple for the offense, but create that illusion
of complexity for the defense, and also keep the timple
enough to where you can maximize there without really putting
him in rough situations which the running game is gonna
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be huge, and his ability to run is gonna be huge,
which we haven't even seen yet, Like, nobody even knows
what that really is going to look like, you know,
except for his high school film, but we can kind
of project it, you know, based off of his size,
as movement skills, his power, and what he's done already
in high school. But I mean, this isn't high school,
you know, this is this is P four football. It's
a very different levels. So yeah, they're very I'm very
(18:58):
concerned about the freshman as the as the quarterback, which
I think that's just a natural way anything should be
based off of the history of how freshmen playing and
just a human nature element of just learning a new skill.
Because he's playing college ball is a way different level
than high school ball. And being a college quarterbacks almost
like a completely different position than the high school quarterback
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just because of the intricacy of the detail and the
precision that they have to play with is just it's
it's a completely different way of doing it. And so yeah,
well we'll see, like I said, but there's there's a
good support group around him. But that's that's the biggest
concern for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Brady papinga former BA Great Super Bowl champion, tips some
Cougar football here on ESPN. The fan thought it was
interesting in the secondary they move Tommy passes.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Over to that Nickels spot.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Uh, they have Tanner Wall free safety final tows, that's
a while backing up both strong and free radul to
winy it's strong.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean, how much nickel do you think we're going
to see this season?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Well, a lot, you know, and that's just just just
the function of a lot of teams are gonna run,
you know, eleven personnel, twelve personnel with a tight end
that probably is going to be considered a like a
slot receiver. You know, a lot of the air raid offenses.
People don't realize they'll list a tight end on their roster,
but in fact they're actually a slot receiver and they
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just like the size.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
They like that he's a big target.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
But but you're still true, you know, he doesn't rent block.
You know, I'm forgetting the latest guy who did that
that became pretty big. But just you know, I'd say
the close comp to him would be like a Jimmy
Graham where he's like a basketball time player finesse. But
you know, and so that and I think that's why
you take a guy like a safety body and you
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put him at the nickel because that creates a bigger nickel,
you know. So you got a big nickel and then
you got more of your speed guy nickel if they
did put like enough wide receivers out there.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Because process, I'm.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Not sure if he's a real good you know, cornerback
nickelback types, but he's he's for surely a very good safety.
So that's like you're playing when you have a bigger
body out there. It's very similar to playing down safety
in a in a in a single safety high defense,
you know. So that makes sense.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
But yeah, we're gonna see a lot of nickel.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
And uh, the safety position too is another deep position,
so you can see where they're trying to get their
best eleven on the field, and sometimes they do that.
You got to create new personnel groupings. You gotta move
some guys around, like like with Proccess moving to Nickel
and uh and because to me, you want to just
you gotta be foxible enough to get your eleven best
on there.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
And uh.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
And if you've got a bunch of guys that are
loaded up at one position group, okay, well that means
that some of those guys are gonna have to cross
train and there's gonna have to be some some creativity
scheme wise to get those guys.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
On the field.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know the tight end room with Carson, Ryan Key
and ned there was some question marks around who would
be tight end too Key and Need seems to be
a big, strong blocking in line tight end.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But uh is twelve personnel alive and well in Cougar
Country once again, Well.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
I think it has to be because of well, I
don't think I should say it has to, but I
think it's something that's going to be featured because of
the necessity to have to ball control, run the ball,
keep it an offense on time with.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Your own young quarterback.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
And that's the best way to do it get big
bodies in there, and they're just they're not just one
dimensional big bodies either. These guys can can't be spread out,
flexed out, they can't be utilized pretty effectively in the
past game. But but what I like about it is
it creates a a running game that incorporates a physical quarterback.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
That's physical. It's a pounding, it's.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
A very uh you know, uh kind of wear you out,
kind of off a deep offense for a defense.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
To where you got a big back in your quarterback
and then you.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Put your big tight end bodies out there and you
can just pound a defense, especially when these defenses are
so accustomed to doing like I said earlier, which is
lining up a nickel or lining up spread and playing
more against receiver type bodies or finesse.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Tight ends, you know.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
And so this is kind of a I think a
nice little curve all that Roder will throw out these
teams to see if they're boned up with their physicality.
I think if you watch that Iowa State game, this
would that would this would be a very different style.
That Iowa State game was a big spread game. I
know that Ioway State likes to load it up to
use their tight ends. But in terms of you know,
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Kansas State and even Iowa State, their defenses are very built.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
I would say to.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Play more of a finesse style than a physical smash
mouth style. And as we both know what those two quarterbacks,
they're not physical runners like our guys, you know. So
it's a cool I think it's a cool thing to
experiment with because if you can establish it as a physical,
smash mouth but quarterback centric run games where you got MOA,
(23:46):
you got LJ, and then you got your big quarterback
and that's three big. That's like a full house backfield
with two tight ends that you can just hammer dudes
with and then play affs pass them. Because most teams
reaction to that, it's going to be throwing out big
bodies and it's like, okay, now we'll put in space
and we'll throw over the top of you. So I
like the idea. I think in theory it could be
really good.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Love that breakdown, bet Pop, I love talking ball with you.
Real quick, let's give an update to all cougarnation. What's
keeping you busy these days? Building out gyms is what
you do best with the best equipment in the business.
Dxpt dot com gives an update.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, we're we're constantly expanding our portfolio.
Right now, we're going to be doing a high school
dance gym, which is like a basketball Forloring.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Suspended Modular are.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
One of our suppliers works with FBO and the International
Basketball So that's exciting to dabble into that world and
show people. Hey, because we talk about all the time,
we can do anything. It doesn't matter your budget, doesn't
matter the size of the space. We can help you
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like like, we want to earn your business, so we
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go in. We'll take the dimensions of your space, we'll
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a fly through three D walk through of your space
with all the equipment placed in there. Before you actually
do it, we dial it in and once you like it,
we then execute it. Like I said, we use all
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of our suppliers top end fitness equipment and we'll build
you out a phenomenal fitness space. And the best part
is that the best value. Our prices are unmatched. Why
because we have a model where we are direct to consumer.
We don't use resellers, so we basically give our consumers
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Speaker 2 (25:39):
Love that breakdown, Well, I'd invite everyone to give you
a call, set up an appointment, get a get a
console done free. You know outlay of what the gym
will look like and the equipment that will be employed
in that in that gym scenario, and then they can
talk ball with you while they're doing it.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Right, Absolutely, I love to talk ball. So to connect
with me, just text me Hito one three six eight
one two is my direct cell number. That's hit O
one three six eight one two. We could talk some ball,
talk some shop, and then if you need so, we
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out a phenomenal fitness space.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Love that BRATDIY papinga ladies and gentlemen was a pleasure
talking ball with you.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
We'll catch up again next week.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Brady, always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Ben go good, there you go.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
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Speaker 3 (27:22):
Very excited to see just the complete depth total wash.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I think everybody's get cut to play on Saturday and
It's game week.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
It is game week, Today's game week, Monday, we'll have Tuesday.
It's it's gonna be incredible week as we lead up
to Portland State on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Let's go, guys.
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We appreciate you, thanks so much for joining us today
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