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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As you were listening to Cougar Sports with Ben Kretel,
(00:02):
and it's time for a kruping of Cougars and inside
look at the latest news on the recruiting trails surrounding
Cougar athletics.
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
And he's not for a little creon the Cougars. What's
been going on?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I love Friday Night lights the Utah prep scene as
well as the national prep scene.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
The twenty twenty sixth class.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
By the way, up to this point, the twenty twenty
hard commits in the twenty twenty sixth class, it's overall
ranked right now twentieth in the nation, twentieth in the
composite ranking as well.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So these twenty commits led by Ryder Liones five star.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And Brock Harris sportstar tight end bot Mulitalo and low
Peak four star. Ty Getchi is now a four star.
I'm telling you, guys, Brock Harris is a baller. The
upside of Ty gets the Getche Goetchi gets me even
possibly more excited.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's like Brock.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Harris is Dennis Pitta, smooth operator, body control, big, strong, fast,
Tie is like, in my opinion, athletically speedwise.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
He's kinda like a how would I describe it as a?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
As A he's a basketball player converted to football and
he's kind of got like this brock Bowers kind of
like body and build and athleticism too. He's a he's
a boss. I really like both of these titles. Anyway,
we're gonna get up today on all the the news
and notes coming out of this recruiting class, how they fared,
how they looked, who they are, what they stand.
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Speaker 3 (02:39):
We got Moose Bingham online. Moose, how you living, Ben?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I am living as good as you possibly can be.
I just got out of the mountains on back into
the swamps when I saw some great football these last
two weekends. My goodness, gracious, it's been fun going to
Utah and still calling high school games.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
If you look at this twenty twenty six class, like
Ryder Lion bald out over the weekend, it looked like
it got a little heated in the pregame. His opponents
were calling calling him out talking about social media, and
that's what's happened. When you get onto social media, you
become you become a bit of a target.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You put a target on your back.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Rider Lions responded, bald Out had a great game for
his squad. They dominated in this game. To kick it
all off, I'm special, as Rider lines in your.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Opinion, Well, here's the thing. Going to Grand California, that's
an intimidating squad. The Pacers. Man, I went there and
played once and I got my trash kicked. Rider Lions
went and played there. He was dominant. And what I
loved is he didn't just take it and be like okay,
He's like bring it on, and he put his hand
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up saying that come on, Jackie chand sign. I loved
watching Rider. He's got an attitude that you can't duplicate,
you can't intimidate Rider Lions. And that's who you wanted
your quarterback, and that's who all these guys want to
play with, that Rider Lions. I just loved it.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, he's he's a special kid.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
He got hit late on the sideline bounce back and
then threw a sixty six yard touchdown after.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Getting just blown up on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
With a late hit shows a little bit of mental
and physical fortitude that you'd like to see from your quarterback.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Absolutely, And the fact you can go into a place
that is really intimidating to play and come out with
four hundred yards and five touchdowns or whatever. Goodness, gracious,
I couldn't be more excited of a quarterback prospect at
any time, honestly in Biu's history. This kid's the real deal.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Thirty one thirty seven, four to eight passing yards, four
passing touchdowns and then a rushing touchdowns and a partridge
in a pear tree.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's a ridiculous stat line.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Oh my goodness, Graci. And not to me. I've done
a lot of these guys have ridiculous stat lines. Rock Harris,
do you know he's tomped him in the country right
now in yards?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
He's put up ridiculous numbers thus far. I mean, his
first playoff from scrimmage was like a eighty yard touchdown
reception on a little quick screen, little little quick arrow rounde.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Oh my gosh, he looks so good. And I was
just laughing. I was on Twitter, just Bailey and saw
a picture of him next to Brock Bowers, and he's
bigger than brock Bowers by a lot. Rock Harris, I
know it says six'. SIX i think we're pulling Some
Kevin durant's. Stats the kid looks to be six eight six.'
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nine in, all reality. He's huge.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
My goodness as far as the rest of, the class
you know You Have, brock herras you mentioned Botmull The
tyla Taigetchi kawai akana is the number five overall prospect
in committing. This class six two and a half two,
hundred pounder, multi sport he can play, both sides is
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a two. Way player he's got a COMPOSITE score i
think of. Eighty nine he's a borderline. Four star he
maybe a four star by the end of. This season
how did he And The orum tigers compete?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
This WEEKEND so i.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Actually called, that game and they would have played a
lot Better if callaway. Was playing he's nursing a hamstring
injury and that's the one thing that is. Killing him but.
Don't worry we got him in with some. Good doctors
now he should be good. To GO but i think
if he did play, that game it wouldn't have been
a seventeens. Point spread i'll tell You that callway is
one of the, most, talented hardworking and Vivacious kids i've
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ever met in. My life he is just a stud
on and off, the field and he is bigger in person.
AS well i don't.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Know where kaway's going.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
TO play i know we've got him probably. At safety
he could be a monster outside linebacker when everything's said,
and done or coming. At nickel he's, that talented but
he's been dealing with a little bit of an. Injury
bug he'll be just fine when he gets to, region,
Play though mark.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
My words i'm looking at this the twenty players in
this in this class, right in eight of the twenty
are from the State. OF utah i looked at. The
roster about half of the ROSTER at uyu is from
the State. Of utah what does that tell you about
the future of RECRUITING at byu in, your opinion do
you think it's going to be about Fifty percent utah?
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Football players utah prospects GOING to byu.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Only if you want, To win because you ask everyone
where the best, football is It's in utah. RIGHT now
I Mean. Lopeter mawala let's talk. ABOUT him i watched
Him On, Friday Night. Absolute dog his, first game he
had six sacks and he's as humble as. They come
you have to just go in and you have to
create the State. Of utah and that May include idaho
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because We've Got jax tanner. Coming IN but I love
Plant And justin anderson and all these coaches going in, and,
saying hey this is. Our state we want to own
it because there's fantastic players in the State, of utah
fantastic coaching in the State, of utah and fantastic people
in the State.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Of utah the more.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Players from utah you can get and then Sprinklin some
texas Sprinklin some, florida Sprinkling some georgia Sprinkling. Some california
that's a recipe for success and we've seen that in
this class. So far but this is just a phenomenal
class and it's just to get better and we're going
to get some transfers in. As well i'm willing to.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Bet, YOU know i don't know if you were, able to,
you know watch all, these, games right but Like legend
glasger Out Of Lehigh, high school, six', one you know
one seventy really nice player and a. GREAT wide receiver
i think he is a bit of an underrated prospect.
In this class do you know how he produced?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Over the weekend so this was a little bit of
a Tough. Game to legend they ended up Losing. TO
mountain ridge i was supposed to Call The mountain, ridge
lehigh game and, Out of nowhere mountainridge. Figured it out
so you didn't have the. Most productive game but his
first game. It was great and sometimes you need that
little punch in the mouth at the beginning of the, season,
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to say hey let's see what. You Guys, have but legend,
in this offseason he's one of the kids that has impressed.
Me the most his speed, has gotten better he has a,
ridiculous catch radius and in six games last year he
did what most. Men, could do no he is, the
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real deal and he just gets. BETTER and better i
like The speed that tessie is getting, in THIS class
and i love. WHAT he's doing. I loved him i
love The kid From washington and livingston is. An absolute dog,
all these guys they bring such different mentalities to the
game and we we can go out there in ten
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personnel and be confident with. This receiving.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Room love It We got moose bingham, on the, line
little Crew and the cougar said me getting caught up
On All The friday night lights productivity from the twenty
COMMITS Of.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The byu cougar two twenty.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Twenty six class and it's brought To You By Utah
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bob mulatalo is, gonna, play, tackle guard center.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Defensive line at.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
The next level he can play all, OF those, positions,
I Think Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
SO bob mutolo i have to ask for forgiveness on
these radio AIRLINES because when i saw he moved, TO offensive,
tackle i said what what? Are you doing you amazing
at defensive end and defensive tackle is nothing. You can
DO and. Then i thowt he went down and trained
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with one ten a soool, over the offseason Went Down,
to saint george hunked down and he is a. Foot
nominal tackle, he's not. Good. HE'S fantastic fan i, was
in awe honestly on the, amount HE'S improved because i
saw him at a camp earlier THIS year and, i
was like. That was terrible, now forgive me because he is.
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The real deal if he wants to, PLAY wide receiver
i think he. Could do that there's Nothing that bot.
Luitolo CAN'T do and i see, him at guard. Probably
that interior but if he wants, to play tackle his.
Feet looks good. He looks good and they even threw
him on the defensive side of the ball as well
During the. Lone peak games so he's a two way,
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player RIGHT now and i haven't. Seen That Since Probably
jackson powers johnson on. The, Offensive Line.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah jackson powers john's a really good football player at. A
Quarter canyon and i'm looking over, at you Know, speaking
of Jackson You.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Got jackson tanner it's a. Great name too over A.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
DAY in idaho i don't know if you caught, up
with him but at this kid's very. Special offensive, lineman
his well he.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Is very. Special growing up his Idol Was Actually. Jackson powers,
JOHNSON he's like i want to play, Just like him
ray template RIGHT there if i was looking, for a blueprint.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And he does.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He's gotten bigger he's more, than six four. TWO seventy
five i think he's pushing three. Hundred Right Now. But jacks,
tanner he's smooth. He's a technician he does EVERYTHING right
and byu is lucky. To have him he's one of
THOSE kids where, I was, Like I, think platt clack
you might. Be a duck but if he looks like
a duck and sounds like a duck in, this recruiting
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class he's gonna roar. LIKE a Cougar I. Love jack
tanner he is a STUDD bro and i can't say
enough good. Things about him he is just coming. Into
his own he's a leader and in, that interior line
HE'S a kid i think could take over at center and.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Be a four.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Year started starter We're Talking about tjan, coroma type player
but bigger Love.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That breakdown mos BIGHAM here On.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Espn fan boosh who else from this clash stood out
to You From The? Friday night lights any players that
from the twenty commits that you'd?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Like to highlight?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You Know what matthew mason is someone we don't. TALK
about enough i. REALLY like him i actually broke down
his film in the OFFSEASON randomly and, i was like this.
KID'S crazy underrated i don't know why anyone. Isn't offering
him AND right after i came out with. That on
YouTube he all of a sudden got about twenty five offers,
out OF nowhere and, i, Was, LIKE cool like i
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wonder if the kudz will. Halp on HIM next, Thing
I know jay. Hill started Recruiting And when, jay hill
starts the only thing that's gonna stop him is a
letter of intense sign, that head school and he's gonna
Get That. From matthew mason kids six' three one ninety.
CAN do it all i think HE'S a kid that yu,
fans are gonna love and he's a play right. AWAY
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kid as well i. THINK he's vastly underrated i really.
Really Like That kid but adam bywater IS another.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Kid that i.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Think is vastly underrated, six three two ten he's set six.
TO three on here i think he's more six to.
Four and a half he's taller. Than his brother already
he does all, the little things right and he's. A
two way player i think we're getting another Steal Out
of The Olympus. Titans with adam bywater BUT all these. Kids,
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i just love honestly this IS a CLASS that i
wish i could sign, my NAME to him say i
BROUGHT these, kids in i can't but they are all
phenomenal guys on and. OFF the football field a lot
of them, will go on missions but this is gonna
be six years of feast FOR Sure. For, The Byu couters.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Then mush bingham love having you on the Show to
talk some utah prehaps. And crudon the cougars i'm sure
the twenty twenty seven class is going to, be just
as good or maybe even better than the. Twenty twenty
six class, that would be crazy because the twenty twenty
sixth class is, uh is the best maybe the best
and b.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Way of football history we'll see.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
How, it plays out, moose always a pleasure the best
way to support, you what you do how you do
it for.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
All, Of, Our listeners BROTHER.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Oh I'm in ksl sports rewind every Couple of weeks
so i've. Got recruitings for parents i'm always swinging. In,
A war room ben i'm just trying.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
TO be like, You, I love it HEY i like
to i Like.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
TO be like moose i. Follow, in your footsteps man
you're you're. You're doing great work and appreciate, you hopping on. Brother, thanks,
so much oh anytime.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
HAVE a great night i. Gotta go to bed it's
Not seven. Thirty, where i'm at.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Hey, Get some rest buddy, you've been working hard uh.
In the prep scene uh so you need to get a.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Few.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Z's and rejuvenate. Man, thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Hey, Talk. TO you soon benjamin i have. A Great
One Thego.
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Gonna continue to win a.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Ton of football games, All, These, Football Players, Ryder Lions,
brock Harris Bob Mulutalo, Ty getchi Kawe, Khana, Jack, Stannerd
Jackson Gates, Terrans TERRENCE sirian, braxton lindsay Pj Tacky.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Tacky little peti, mawalai, did he, say yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Six, sacks that's insane yeah Six, Sacks in the, Yeah Oh,
My Gosh, Legend GLASKER.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Matthew, Mason.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Sephaniah, A, latini Antonio Johnson, Parker Ord, Neomyah Colone, adam Bywater.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Justice, Braithwaite And. Graham livingston guy? Brett any thoughts here
did you get to watch? Any of these games anyone you?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Wanted to Highlight here from, the Utah Prep Scene the
friday night Lights twenty, TWENTY six.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Cougar scene i was we were up.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
All Night watching the, rider lions game because, as anyone
who knows we said all of the stats and all
the great things that he. Did in that game what
we didn't talk about is both of the two, point
conversions he scored which normally two point conversions aren't the.
Sexiest plays in football but when your two point conversion
is a twenty five yard two point conversion to a
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One hand catch from i'm forgetting. The young man's name
they're six five wide receiver SLASH tight end who i.
Believe got an offer he announced he GOT an. Offer
from byu today they were incredible rider lines that whole Squad.
And then bot mulatalo it is fun to like when
we're gonna see him grow. As an offensive lineman but
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to realize that this kid really is dominating on both
sides of the ball and, is exceptional at.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
BOTH it's just unreal i didn't know that He Had. Trained,
with penney sewel.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah but it shows definitely a refined and. Cultured and productive.
Class you can tell You can tell that bo he's
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of your takeaways. From the depth chart what stands out
to you about The depth. Chart Anything, in.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Particular jerem jordan when he was on the show just,
a couple hours ago brought up.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
A really interesting theory.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
About the quarterback room because as we were, progressing through
fall camp the news we got was that it was
Narrowed down to Bear. Bachmeyer and McKay hillstick but, then
when we asked when THEY were asked about qb two,
media the, other, day they said well it's it's still
up in the Air between McKay and drayson were still.
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Working some things out depth chart comes out today and it,
says McKay Hill. Said, Or Trayson borge now jerem jordan
had a REALLY interesting theory which i would give a,
lot of credence To And it's that emerson guileman really
threw a ranch. INTO this whole thing i don't think
they expected him to be, this GOOD this early and
(21:27):
i think he really put his competitive juices to the Test. With,
McKay and drayson now kalani was asked about this, today
and he said the reason that they, haven't made a
decision is because they still want, those GUYS to compete which.
I think is valid obviously you're still. Going into the
game but, then my question becomes you can only play
(21:49):
that game for so Long because when bear bachmeier undoubtedly
Comes out Of The portland, game portland state game at.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Some point someone has To.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Play quarterback after bearer you can no longer, continue the
facade of oh well, it's two and three someone is
going in, before the other one and you may are You.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Gonna play bear bachmayer All four quarters, Versus portland's sake
exactly my guess he's, just, gonna hand off handoff and he's.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Not gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
PASS it he's not I could see a rod doing
that just just for the, sake of oh yeah, we,
don't have like hey we gotta, Give him more reps
like obviously we don't not.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Expose him an injury but it's just the.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Way the cookie crumbles we're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Hand the ball off they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
They're gonna give IT they're, GONNA let RB three, R
before rb five rb six in on the action, before
they pull them and you know they need to give
them reps they need to develop, and they can justifight
even if you're upwards of if you're up forty Two to, zero.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Like tarlington was you may still throw the ball.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
On third and third and long well because to me
that you have more questions about who your, running backs
are after or at least the question is more pertinent
to me who's YOUR running back after rb. TWO than
the question i don't need the question answered that Much?
OF who's after bear i do need the question of
who is THE running, Back AFTER sioni moa.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
So I don't know if i Wouldn't put.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Money On vegas for A Rod to run bear bachmeyer out,
there the whole time just to, BE a handoff merchant
i Wouldn't, take that TO vegas even though i. Could,
see it happening however the argument does make sense because
you're more curious and more pertinently needing to know who
your deep running backs are as opposed to who your. Next,
two Quarterbacks are however if bear doesn't, play the whole
(23:31):
game this depth chart can. Only say so much somebody
has to come in, before the other guy and my
guess is you're not giving them both equal playing.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
TIME in That game i.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Think the quarterback two battle, Is an Interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
One hillsteed versus borgay will we see one of those
two quarterbacks or will? We see all three you know
we See, All three Bear. BACHMEER hillsteed and. BORGAY i,
think that i mean if it, truly is a competition
that's what, you, Want to.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
See right if it's a competition then and it's truly
as split down the middle as they would like, us
to believe that my guess would be, in a Perfect
World you play berrek bachmeyer, For, The first half nickay
hillstid comes in, for The Third quarter and trayson borget
comes in.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
For, the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah there are fourteen or. Designations across the chart klani
And crew and the sids have been.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Known to throw a lot Of oars out there.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Are there any oars outside of the quarterback room that?
You're INTRIGUED by here and i would, LIKE to see
more i guess. Clarification On Those oars.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
The tanner wall one.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Is a little interesting After Free safety There's Tanner. Wall,
OR falleteo satawala yeah i would have figured.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
That it, would have.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Been Undisputed no contests tanner wall at free safety one
one is a little interesting to me that one does
feel like we we. WE threw, IT in i, DON'T i.
DON'T know i don't i have a hard. Time, BUYING
that one well I.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Can tell you fola tew did pick off. A Lot
of passes uh were they were they created?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Or?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Were they received? Right IS The question and j hill.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Did have a lot of great things to say about
him through the, entirety OF fall camp so i don't
have any doubts that he will see. The field a,
lot but to me IF anyone in your dB, ROOM
cornerbacks are safeties i Would Have thought that tanner wall
would be the one guy who wouldn't have an or.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Anywhere near His name raaiter de.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mooney is your number one strong Safety or folatile sal
he's also backing up. That Position as well talent alfree
is listed as a third strong safety.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
With, no or delineation.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah that is interesting the fact that he's in there
strong and free with an or on both means he
made it a really really close race, with both those
guys which is great news because again we've talked about like.
THERE May be sets j, hill talked about this there
may be sets where you. Have, three safeties In Obviously
we know tommy prasss is Gonna, be in at nickel
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so you're already. Gonna have that anyway but it does
make you feel good when there's questions about potentially how
deep your cornerback Room is because j hill said that
there's three guys. That who can play which it's interesting
that he said that there's no oars anywhere, in the
cornerback room but maybe that's Just because.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
THEY'RE down jonathan.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Could, i don't know well what's interesting is that you
know there was a Battle Going on With Evan johnson
and trey, alexander The Third right and evan Johnson.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Didn't even get tray didn't.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Get The or designation evan johnson is that, you, know
that corner uh the one of. The two corners there mariybamba.
On The other side jaden dunlap is in the. Two
DEEP as well so i. Thought that was interesting let's get,
out to the hotline get caught up with a Former
B a. Great super bowl champion, WE got pretty up
i think on, the line be pop how?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You live? A?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Buddy what's up, guys, always.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Fun on yes.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Indeed always a pleasure we just. Got the depth, chart
uh be pop. We're going through it is, there any,
one position you know offensively or defensively where you would
like to see a little bit more depth?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
On, YOUR depth chart.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Well i think always you want more depths a wide receiver,
just because, they want you know you run three wide
receiver sets pretty much off time's probably seventy then. Three
wide receiver sets, but to capture that they have brought,
in more, tight ends you know so they're, which is one,
back two, tight ends one, back one tight, end maybe even,
(27:51):
THIRTEEN so you know i think they've addressed that with,
their tight end situation but THAT that's one that i
felt like they can be a Little more depth than hagen,
also emerging number five he's been or the ho.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Ho, Right Number, Five, Yeah Cody.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Hagen, okay hagan's hagen yeah he. Has really come along
this guy's got filled. Stretch ability with that he's really good,
at breaking off route which is like pretty much indefensible
because you've got. To respect, the speed if not he'll
break it off and then. You're just reacting late he's
gonna have a nice little dig or in route or
out rout or bud, hook or you know he does
(28:29):
a nice travel, those slice, SO anyway but yeah, I
think wide receiver. I like seymore depth i think also,
along the defensive, line the interior guys you'd like, to
see more, depth and, then cornerbacks you know and think
cornerback's kind. Of the same thing you're going to be
facing a lot of multiple wide receiver like three plus,
wide receiver formations consistently and so that that. Stresses that
(28:51):
position group so he'd like to be five, to six,
seven deep you know have that. POSITION roll, guys in,
i mean you know that's that's kind of the ideals
in this, world to call It and even, just pro
football generally you have, so much, spread offense you know
having the secondary and wide receiver. Depth is pretty, Big.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
The quarterback room, bear bachmeeier's THE guy but. No qb
two delineation it's an. Or McKay Hill said or trason
borge thought that WAS INTERESTING that the qb do.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Competition, IS still open, yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I mean it's uh neither One of those guys like
that's interesting because like when they, were in the mix
neither one of those guys really established anything of, consistency,
to be like yeah this IS who and what, i want,
to be you know and maybe. It's just, it's hard
you know playing PLAYING quarterback at. The byu is hard you're.
In the spat line there's a lot. Of pressure on you,
(29:43):
Like for for example Trades in, the first cup practice
you could just see he looked like it was, too big,
for him you KNOW. Being AT by u maybe i don't,
know what it was but it was just there's something
about it that just he didn't didn't, sit well with
Him wasn't comfortable with, and then with McKay it's just
kind of LIKE an inconsistency of i can't put, my
finger on it but it's it's like he makes some
(30:04):
good throws and, all of a sudden it just. Like it,
will swallow you know you're, Like what YOU know so
IT'S i get. Why i thought that and again it
goes just down to the consistency and you, gotta, stack
your days man and those guys just HAD a hard
time i think stacking. Days for, whatever, reason YOU know,
maybe like i said maybe there's the. Pressure of, the
competition you know maybe It's just maybe, it's Bear being
(30:26):
there because bear, is a, big guy imposing figure can
sit the ball, and run you know and maybe that
that just put a lot, of pressure, on, him knowing
like wow we got a really up our game if
we're gonna, fend off this freshman and and that sometimes
puts so much, stress that you know just, it kind
of buckles you just kind.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Of, Buckles under pressure yeah i've been triaged to see
how many quarterbacks Actually Play in. The Portland state game
portland state is not. A good football Team They lost
to tarlington state.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Forty two to zero.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They looked piss poor in all, fat IT'S of football
and i imagine be what he's gonna lay a drubbing
on him similar To That Akin to. Tarlington tarlington state
did so that makes a question we need to see
three Quarterbacks four Quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
At, lavelle on saturday.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Well you gotta do, whatever you gotta DO you. Know what,
I mean you see. I've seen this before i've seen
it With, big schools like alabama, other big time schools,
to where you know a TEAM that's the lower fcs
level team goes to place horrendous maybe a week, before
they show up thinking they just can, sleep walk through
things and, all of a sudden it's it's a little
(31:36):
bit more of a battle. Than you had anticipated so
guys are IN longer, and so i mean this is
one of those WEEKS to where and i think this
is kind of the, design behind the week but still
you have, to look at yourself not against who you're.
Facing head to head you gotta look yourself in terms
of who's going to grow, at the fastest rate because
that's really when you AND. This is an nfl this
(31:56):
is what's great about the playoffs now because of the
playoffs and qualifying for them doesn't require a, conference championship
per se the ability of improvement becomes the premium because
if you get hot, at the wrong time and you
can get hot at a higher, level than everybody else you're.
Gonna win, This Conference you know arizona state. Proved that
(32:18):
last year they started out kind of like, even in
the pack and then they improved at a rate greater
than everybody else. And then finished strong so what Does That.
Mean for portland state you have to treat this week
with great amount of urgency and you can't let it
just be a. Like a throwaway week you literally have to, look,
at yourself like hey even though we're not competing against, our,
(32:38):
big twelve fos directly we're indirectly competing against them in
terms of how how much and how fast. We're going
to grow and that's the mentality. They have to be
AND so one thing i, Know about these kids i've
seen it in A number of practices i was at
JUST in the because i was at well. Like three
or four. BUT they're interesting practices i was at in
training camp where it's like they're practices were the human
(33:00):
nature tends to seep in and, guys tend to relax and,
they didn't do that and it was internal and it
was it was kind of it was kind of like
ownership of the team took over and. Make sure. They
didn't you know one of them, was a you know
right after. A padd of practice i Think it was a,
friday before that, scrimmage the first scrimmage and everybody's in no, Pads,
(33:20):
and you're thinking okay this is gonna be one of
those like really disastrous days BECAUSE everybodys saving us o
for the scrimmage and they're still kind, of tired, from
them you know that padded, practice the day before and.
THAT wasn't, the case i mean these guys were flying
around to where coaches were having to tell. Guys To
slow down so i'm anticipating them really attacking this week
and really attacking just having. The opportunity to.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Play Love that breakdown BRADY Papina talking some byu Football
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This byu football team are we not talking? Enough about
right now do you think that we need? TO get
to know I Know. YOU mentioned cody hagen i think
he's one of the guys we really need to.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
GET our eyes on i.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Think he's super dynamic he was actually one of the
first guys we interviewed AT fall camp, because i was
like this kid's gonna have a breakout. Year if he's,
healthy in my opinion who else should we be?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Keeping an eye on, that's.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
A good question man i mean you ideally like, to see,
somebody Emerge. YOU know like logan, i mean he's like
what a fifth or sixth year senior where he could.
JUST be a dominator i think, he's always been, solid but,
it's like you know he's got, a lot of experience.
HE'S got enough ability i would like to see him
take the next step and, really be, a playmaker you
(34:37):
know not just, a guy who fits but a guy
who goes out. And makes, impactful plays you know just.
Just Guys Like that like, taal seeley's another guy The.
THE transfer, from texas i mean he showed really. Well
in training camp he's. A guy that's man he's got, the, total, package,
speed power athleticism length and. He a coachable kid he
(35:01):
worked really, hard and you know he takes to everything
you tell him and, you see, the ability you know
so it's like he's. That KIND of guy so i
look at, more of that position. Like these end rushers
they're because. They're the deepest POSITIONS everybody knows the sam
linebacker and the way they call THEM would be the
sam linebacker, in the open end which in reality they're
(35:21):
both OUTSIDE backers in. A od front defense those are
the guys that they're the most deep position, on the
whole team and. Nobody's talking ABOUT them but, that i
would say, by the year's end there's gonna be at
least two guys that emerge from that are going to
be really, big time household. Names big. Time, playmakers love.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
That uh do you have ANY concerns about this byu
offense right, now, that any, Gaps, YEAH any weaknesses.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Yeah i mean you. Got, a freshman QUARTERBACK now that's
always i. Think a huge concern just decision making and
then the experience. Of of decision making you know a
lot of times these guys have to see it a
couple of, times in. Real Life you know and i'm
not saying he's going To See. It in, portland state
you know it's. JUST gonna, be interesting, i think you
know it's Gonna be Fun for roderick because roderick is
(36:13):
going to have to find a way to get him
to play free without completely just having him run the,
ball every single time and then, at the, same time
you know having this be complex enough at least illusionary
wise or perception wise to a defense where it's it's a,
typical rounder of conference which is there's a, lot of,
adjustment directions, there's motions there's shifts there's a few layers
(36:37):
of decisions that have to be made. On the defensive,
side and, SO that to me i think is going
to be fun for him to figure out a way
to keep the timple for the offense but create that
illusion of perplexity for the defense and also keep the
tiple enough to where you can maximize there without really putting,
him in rough situations which the running game, is gonna
be huge and his ability to run, is gonna be
huge which we, Haven't even seen yet like nobody even
(36:58):
knows that that really is, going to, look like you
know except for. His high school film but we can,
kind of, project it you know based, off of his size,
as the, movement skills his power and what he's done.
Already IN high, school but i mean, this isn't, high
school you know THIS is this. Is p four football it's.
A very, different level So yeah they're very i'm very
concerned about the freshman as, the AS the quarterback which
(37:19):
i think that's just a natural way anything should be
based off of the history of how freshmen playing and
just a human nature element of just. Learning a new
skill because he's playing college ball is a way different level,
than high school ball and being a college quarterbacks almost
like a completely different position than high school quarterback just
because of the intricacy of the detail and the precision
(37:40):
that they. Have to play with it's just it's it's
a completely different. Way of doing, it and so, yeah
WELL we'll, see like i said but there's there's a good.
Support group around him but that's that's the.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Biggest concern for sure BRADY papinga Former B a, great
Super bowl championships some COUGAR. Football here on espn the
fan thought it was interesting in The second they move
tommy Passes over. To that Nickel Spot they have Tanner
Wall free safety final towns such a while of backing
up both strong and free rad do?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
WHEN he, gets strong i mean how much nickel do
you think we're going? To, see this, season.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Well, a lot you know and that's just just just
a function of a lot of, teams are, gonna run,
you know eleven personnel twelve personnel with a tight end
that probably is going to be considered a a. Like a,
slot receiver you know a lot of. The air raid
offenses people don't realize they'll list a tight, end on
their roster but in fact they're. Actually a slot receiver
(38:34):
and they. Just like the size they like that. He's
a big target but, but you're, still true you know.
He doesn't, Rent block you know i'm forgetting the latest
guy who did that. That became pretty big, but just
you know i'd say the close comp to him Would
Be like a jimmy graham where he's like a basketball time.
Player finas you know AND so that and i think
(38:55):
that's why you take a guy like a safety body
and you put him at the nickel because that, it's a.
Bigger nickel you know so you got a big nickel
and then you got more of your speed guy nickel
if they did put like enough. Wide Receivers, Out there
because process i'm not sure if he's a, real good you,
know cornerback nickelback types but he's he's for surely. A
very good safety so that's like you playing nickel when
(39:17):
you have a. Bigger body out there it's very similar
to playing down safety in a in a in a,
single safety. High defense you know. So that, makes sense
but yeah we're gonna see a lot. Of nickel and
uh the safety position too. Is another deep position so
you can see where they're trying to get their best,
eleven on the field and. Sometimes they do that you
got to. Create new personnel groupings you gotta, move some
Guys around like With process moving. To nickel and uh,
(39:39):
and because to me you want to just you gotta
be foxible enough to get your leve best. On there
and uh and if you've got a bunch of guys
that are loaded up, at, One position group okay well
that means that some of those guys are gonna have
to cross train and there's gonna have to be some
some creativity scheme wise to get those. Guys on the field.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You know the tight End, Room With the carson ryan
key and ned there were some question marks around who
would Be tight end too key and need seems.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
To, be a big strong blocking.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
In.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Line tight end uh but is twelve personnel Alive And?
Well in, Cougar, COUNTRY once again.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Well i think it has TO be because WELL i
don't think i should, say IT has to but i
think it's something that's going to be featured because of
the necessity to, have to ball, control run the ball
keep the offense on time with. Your own young quarterback
and that's the. Best way to do get. Big bodies
in there and they're just they're not just one. Dimensional
big bodies either these guys can, can be. Spread out
(40:36):
flexed out they can't be utilized pretty effectively. In the
past GAME but but what i like about it is
it creates a running game that incorporates a. Physical quarterback that's,
physical it's a pounding it's a, very uh you know
uh kind, of wear you out kind of off a
deep offense for a defense to where you got a
(40:57):
big back in your quarterback and then you put your
big tight end bodies out there and you can, just
pound a defense especially when these defenses are so accustomed
TO do them, like i said earlier which is lining
up a nickel or lining up spread and playing more
against receiver type bodies, or finesse. Tight ends you know
and so this IS kind of a i think a
nice Little curve ball that rodert will throw out these
(41:18):
teams to see if they're boned. UP with their physicality
i think If You watch, that iowa state game this
would that that would this would be. A Very Different
style that iowa state game was. A big spread Game
I know that ioway state likes to load it up to,
use their tight ends but in, Terms Of you know
Kansas State, and even iowa state their. DEFENSES are very
(41:39):
built i would say to play more of a finesse,
style than a. Physical smash mouth style and as we
both know, what those two quarterbacks they're not physical. Runners like,
our guys you know SO it's a cool i think
it's a cool thing to experiment with because if you
can establish it as a physical smash mouth but quarterbackstri
(42:00):
run GAMES, where you GOT, moa you got lj and
then you've got your big quarterback. And that's three big
that's like a full house backfield with a two tight
ends that you can just hammer dudes with and then play.
Actions and pass them because most, teams reaction to that
it's going to be throwing out big, bodies, and it's
like okay now we'll we'll put you in space and
we'll throw over. The TOP of you so. I liked
the idea. I think it's seriy it.
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