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our questions and polls of the day. Yesterday we delved
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Bit here in the nitty gritty, but we do have
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of the twenty twenty five season. If you have not
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imagine there are many that are going to pick eight, four,
nine and three, maybe ten and two.
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Huh, shoot eleven and one.
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five type of guy. Maybe you're a six and six
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Always bringing the hammer, always bringing the content.
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Less WelCom in.
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Former b YU TV sideline reporter, also a former member
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The fandless wolcom in. Brett always bringing the hammer, hammertime.
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What's up?
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Somehow I get taller, I get older, but as I
get older, apparently on this show, I get taller six foot.
I think is probably like if there was a goal
I could have in life that just eludes me is
to be six foot but apparently working.
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Here I have achieved it.
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When you're a part of the Cougar Sports Family, the
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Appreciate you here.
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He wears many hats. We got Ronald the free Man Weaver, Ronnie.
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How you living? I'm living good.
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Those comments are wild, though they've been put in the
comments of the year from my little executive producer role.
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Hey, Ron, you know what we need to do. So
my my in laws, we have this thing for my
father in law. It's called bleep, Neil says. And so
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just he is an unhinged machine of commentary and it's
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Ben says. And then that way all of these unhinged
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Look, all I know is that Hugh Freese says that
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This is a college football show. And as I mentioned, look,
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This is true.
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It's on record.
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When uh, when the aliens come and they destroy try
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I sure, hope.
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I say some jokes? Let me just say this last guys,
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We gotta get them dark people, Okay, keep going, go ahead.
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You know the BBC before being critical, Tim Binn said,
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Ben.
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I just wrote your last two statements as well. I
think girth and you know, the the upper lip with
the mustaches, what you're referring to with bread if.
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You freeze kind of makes some good precedent for it
to be okay.
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So that one, I think you've proven yourself on.
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The production board.
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Andrew Peterson are Adrian Peterson because he's always rumbling, tumbling,
stumbling to the end zone.
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Honestly, then I'm just ready for some football, Like at
this point, even though we're playing Portland State Saturday, like
we're not gonna be able to take anything from it,
but I just want football.
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Hey, look we will because the depth chart.
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All right. I want to delve back into this depth chart.
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We discussed it to a certain level yesterday, but we
ran out of time.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I want to get into this further.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I'm about to post a tweet about this because I
think there is much more to this conversation than even
meets the eye, and so we're gonna delve into this
right now in the nitty gritty, So let me give
you some of my depart depth chart takeaways. If you
haven't reviewed it, go ahead and pull it up right now.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You can.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
You can probably find it on the interwebs and we
can review it together. We all know QB one is
bear Bachmeyer, he's locked in. QB two is still wide open,
still wide open. McKay hills did, Trayson Borgay and maybe
possibly even Emerson Gileman. We're the great thing about Portland
State is we're gonna find out who QB two is.
That's a great thing. Like we can put that one
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to bed at least for the time being.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
A Rod did tell us that the competition for QB
two will could go into you know.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Game three, Game four, maybe even Game five.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
He alluded to that in his press conference or his
media availability. I want to say this past week, maybe
I don't know these all these days go together. I
can't remember the last time he addressed the media, the
last time he walked up in front of the microphone.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's what he said.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
So okay, so that that's gonna be. It's now, who's
my favorite to win?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That man like.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
It's kind of a toss up for me because I
don't think McKay or Trason or Emerson even really separated themselves.
I leen McKay. I think McKay should be QB two.
I think he should be, and I think he will be.
But I found it very interesting that a Rod was
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not going not declarative on that, which means there's work
to be done in that quarterback room. And McKay needs
to figure out how to separate himself. He needs to
figure out how to separate himself. He's too talented not
to be capable of separating himself. And I love Trason,
I love Emerson. I've applauded Emerson for his ability to
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compete early on.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But McKay should be QB two.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
He should earn it though fourteen or spots with still
plenty of competition to be had through the first few
weeks of the college football season. Let me get into
a few of these oars that I thought was interesting.
Mchayhillstead or Traysing Borgay obviously, Okay, you also have.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Kean Need or Ethan ericson Key.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And Need was highlighted in a media availability with Aaron
Roderck as well, the six five, two hundred and sixty
five pound junior transfer who came from New Mexico or
was it New Mexico State. One of the two Ethan
Ericson was supposed to be one of the stars. He's
a red shirt freshman. He struggled with injuries. Will he
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be ready? Will he be capable? Had some flashes early
on in his career, has had difficulty staying healthy and strong.
Noah Muliaki also included on the oars with Ethan at
tight end one or tight end two, tight end three,
tight end four. I lean Kean need here because he's
just so big and he's a blocking tight end that
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in line tight end spot and even upback spot could
be fulfilled by keyannim As.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You're why too. Other ores of.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Intrigue Whalon La Poo Wahoo or Sonny Makassini.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
No one's talking about this. No I's talking about this.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Like Whalen Lapoo Wahoo or Sonny Makassini at left guard?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Is this a competition? Waalan's a senior.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Whalen has been lauded as a NFL prospect at left guard.
The six foot four, three hundred ten Pounder, the transferm
of Utah State. That's crazy that or is in the
mix for Whalan Lapo Wahu with Sonny Maxina. Now, Sonny
has been highlighted over the years by our staff, by me,
by many others as a guy that, like even Coach
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Funk was trying to integrate he early on. I'm like, well, Sonny,
he's getting reps, getting reps in practice. He's into too deep, YadA, YadA, YadA.
He played a significant role last year and he got bigger, stronger,
more adept this offseason. He just he just keeps showing
up and making coaches remember his name.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Six four three fifteen red shirt junior.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Now, this could mean the or could mean that Sonny
is pushing for playing time as a starter. Or it
could mean that with Wayland's health in question, he's been
deemed up a little bit throughout fall camp that Sonny
could get some starts early. Your reaction to that bred
hammer Sonny Macasini, is there a drop up between Wayland
and Sonny?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Do you think at left guard?
Speaker 6 (14:32):
The thing that we keep hearing about this offensive line,
and we've heard it from a couple of coaches, is
anywhere between seven to some coaches saying nine guys could play,
and obviously, offensive line is one of those positions where
it's so tough on your knees and your ankles and
your joints that anything can happen and anyone can roll
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up on anybody. To me, that's almost one of the
positions that has to be has to be deep because
of frankly, what you're going to need.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You You really don't want LJ.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Martin having to make first contact with with defensive linemen.
You'd probably prefer his first contact to come at the
dB level outs on some stretch plays and the linebacker
level if you have to. And then in terms of
protecting the quarterback, like you don't want to get the
worst thing you can possibly do with a freshman quarterback
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is get into a position where your offensive line can't
hold up for him, and then he's never able to
build confidence. So when I see an or spot in
the offensive line side of the depth chart, it doesn't
concern me that much because we've been hearing this talk
that there's somewhere between seven to nine guys who could
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play on this offensive line that people could win with.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And then on top of all of that, in TJ Woods.
We trust TJ's been fantastic. I love that final you
know that final declaration. TJ should be taking this offensive
line to the two point zero level.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Like that was initial install last year, simplification, maximizing execution
of those simplistic seams.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Now we need to take it to the next level.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
And you do have a robust thirty plus starts I
think thirty four starts along the offensive line. That's a
solid grouping of starts there, and I expected them to
take it to the next level. This offensive line should
be better than it was last year. The other or
along the offensive line that I'm intrigued by Austin Leusa
and Kyle Superchoke, two former SUU players combining competing at
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that right guard spot. Austin does seem to be the startup,
but Kyle has been pushing him a bit in practice.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We'll see how that plays out. Uh so of intrigues.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Kyle's like a powerlifter, kind of a all are in
the middle six, four, three, ten, and we'll see how
that competition plays out in the initial.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Phases of the season.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Defensive side of the ball, maybe not as many oars,
but still plenty of wars. Billy Pouha, Billy Ambi Pouha,
the son of Sioni pouhad defensive end, is competing with
Body Schoon Number the bull, Okay, the bull body versus Billy,
who also looked really good last year. Remember some QB
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hits on Noah Fafida caused a I in T that
was snatched out of the air at the pylon by Tanner.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Wall t Wall Baby.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
So I find that one to be a very interesting
battle between the sophomore and red shirt junior. Will it
be vill or will it be body, doesn't matter. They're
probably gonna get some sort of equivalency of reps. If
you're in the two deep along the defensive line, you
can be considered a starter in my opinion. Quite honestly,
there may there's already equivalent see there of reps.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So it's typically a.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Two deep conversation anyway, At knows Navasa justin Kirklan, we
know that, and then Calfousi puff Kofe the transfer from Weaver.
You could see Kalfusi playing more behind Keanutnavasa than Justin
because he's still real rehabilitating from injury.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So expect number seventy two.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Out there at OIE, you have Logan Ltoui, who is
your guy, but then you have all the oars.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's essentially a three man race between.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Orion, Miley, Calfusi, Hunter Klegg and Tao Celia Kana.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
All three of those guys are probably.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Gonna see the field this year until they separate themselves
in live game action. At OI, which is your I
would say it's your primary pass rushing defensive end spot.
Not to say that the strong side defense event doesn't
get involved. They do, and not to say that the
nose or defensive tackle don't get involved.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
They do.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
But Owi is like your stand up edge guy. Typically,
is Logan ready to take that leap? Yes, win healthy
because he's had some injury issues. But the two three
four spot right now, Kalfusi, Kleag and Akana. You have
two four stars there, two four stars behind Kalfusi, who
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coming out of high school. I don't know if he
was just a traditional kind of mid level three star.
I don't know if he had as much pop in
circumstance as these other two. By any means, he was
an eighty three composite. His offers were Oregon State, Air Force,
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Utah State, and finally BYU. Right, finally BYU came a
knocking that one is in creating very intriguing to me.
And now granted, Kalfusi, coming out of high school was
listened to an athlete in twenty twenty one class and
at that time he was six three to one ninety
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and they really didn't know what position he was gonna play.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Now, Miley Kaufusi is six three two forty five and
playing the end. So nytry that's an interesting uh battle here.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
One of the other position battles that I think not
many people are talking about. Sialia Sera is a four
star linebacker and attempt view. I have highlighted his career
probably more in depth than anybody. Okay, his first play
that he was inserted versus I think TCU was an interception.
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Ended up having an injury that true freshman season and
had to.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Rehabilitate rehabilitate from that.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Finally saw some pt last year towards the end of
the season and got healthy and had a fantastic Bowl
versus Colorado, tracking down Schador from behind Italian. I think
his first sack of his career six three two forty
five re insert sophomore.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
There's an ore there.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
And by the way, Harrison Taggart was also in this
MAC room who is at cow now, and went into
Jay Hill, and Jay Hill alluded to it in one
of my interviews with him. Went into Ja Hill and
kind of said, Hey, I gotta be the guy. I
gotta beat the guy. I want more reps. I don't
want to be splitting reps. I want to be the
starting MAC and I don't want to be coming off
the field as much, which I think to a certain
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degree is fair. I do think it's fair to ask that.
But you got to earn it as well. And Jay said, look,
you got to earn that. No, no one's gonna get
it to you in the NFL. I can tell you
that much. You're gonna have to compete for it day
in and day out. You gotta be a dog and
compete every single day to not be taken off the field.
And so Harrison, he went out, he went and took
his talent to the portal. So consider that, and you
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have Shaye Brian Strawther, the UCLA transfer that's also in
that room at MAC now. Shaye Brian Strather can play
the sam, the rover, the mac position, and maybe even
some oe. In my opinion, he's that good six y
three two forty redshirt senior. But the fact that there
is an ore there behind sially is crazy to me
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because this would have been Harrison Taggart or Sialle or
shape Ryn Scrobert. Max Alfred is behind him and he's
had a great cap the six foot one, two hundred
and thirty pound junior transfer from Utah State. That room
is stacked, and it was stacked before.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Very interesting. Those are some of my intriguing UH components here.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
The other one, the final one, is this Tanner Wall
or Folatao Satawala, Raider de Mooney or Volatile Satawala. Maybe
not as surprising the Raider or Folatao because Folatow, I think,
at six four to two ten, seems to be strong
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safety type.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
More so than Free.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
But Tanner Wall is your fearless leader, team captain, has
proven it on and off the field to be all
in on the kilate culture and a playmaker on the field.
Last year tally interceptions, being a great tackler, always being
in the right position.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
There's never been a question mark about.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Who who tanner Wall is and what he can provide
to the free safety room. So Finaltaw being number two
in an ore phase, to me speaks to how much
j Hill has loved the progress of Folatole, how much
he loves his talent, his ability. He's upside and Jay's
been pretty effusive in his praise for Folatile, even when
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it's not like like elicited. I guess it's not like
you know, inquired upon you. He goes out of his
way to highlight Follataw.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
If you had asked me before the depth chart to
come out to give you the top four guys who
I was abb absolutely positively sure would not have an
OOR next to their name, it would have gone somewhat
in this order Keanutanovasa Jack, Kelly Isaiah Glasker and then
call me crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
But I think tanner Wall probably would have been fourth
on that list.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
So to everything you just said, the fact that tanner Wall,
I think the fact that tanner Wall has an ORR
near him is not an indictment of tanner Wall at all.
It's the fact that tanner Wall has raised the play
of that safety room so much that Falatao has said, Okay, cool.
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I'll come up through with you. Tanner I know, I
know you're up there, but I can join you. I
am still a little shocked that that Tanner Wall got
an or, But to me, that just speaks to what
Jay Hill has been saying, which he said there's three
to four guys in the safe room they can win with.
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And if Fallataw is as good as tanner Wall, that
means that is one heck of a safety room.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, it's it's It's deep, no doubt about it. The
other one that I didn't mention, I from Asciata backing
up Isaiah Glasger. I hate to take the Isaiah Glasger
off the football field because he is a next level defender,
next level player. He's one of the most unique football
players that we've had come through BYU at that linebacking
at that SAM position, which has fielded so many greats
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like if you go back and check tape of like
Brian Keel and our three four defense at sam uh
it was amazing to watch Keel cover so much space
and make plays and uh just being coverage. And Isaiah
is like a taller version, longer version of Keel, which
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is uh is is definitely welcomed.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Jordan Pendleton after that.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
An NFL player injuries derailed it, but a freak Jordan Pendleton.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Didn't Fred Warner play some safety while he was.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
In Fred Fred Warner at Sam. That's what I'm saying, Like,
ridiculous played Sam. Now he's playing like the mic linebacker
the NFL. But ridiculous player Alani Fua Sam played in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
That is probably his body type is more akin to
what Isaiah's is.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
And Elani obviously was tremendous playing in the NFL for
for a decent amount of time.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So I think also Matt Hadley played.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Some Sam too, a little bit more undersize was uh
with Spencer Hadley?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Excuse me and uh? And he was really nice.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
He was a great There's been so many great ones
that have played that Sam linebacker spot for Kugarnation through LBU.
So anyway, Ephram uh I I the fact that he
Ephram is gonna play this year and there's not an
ore designation, but Ephan's gonna play. He's gonna play more
this year. I hate taking Ig off the field, but
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Ephraim deserves it. He is a violent playmaker. He pursues
with fanatical effort. Ephram Assiata is one of the best.
I would say, uh like, it's a button press technique.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Its hat in.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Hands simultaneously exploding into a defense or an offensive player
tight ends, fullbacks, lineman.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
His hat in hands.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Violence is so transcendent at two hundred and ten pounds.
It is it is, it is beauty, it is fine art.
It is the fine art of football on display. It
is explosive, it is plometric, it is quick twitch, it
is celestial. And so he's gonna see the field ephrom
(27:49):
will Ephraim's fantastic. I love you from Asiada. I hate
seeing Ig go off the field. I don't want him
off the field. But if if he's gonna go off
the field, I love that Ephraim's coming in to back
him up. So anyway, those are some of my thoughts
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Concerning the oars, Andrew Peterson, you know, what do you
make of all these oars on the depth chart?
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Yeah, The only thing I have to say concerning the
oars is that Bran Santiago said football drives the ship,
and ships need oars.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Hell to the y. S Wow hell Wow's bells to
the s.
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Let's go baby, uh Santia A good pull, good deep cut.
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to get into our question of polloday, what do we
make of the leadership council. You're only as good as
the leadership that you have within the locker room. This
is one of the reasons why we feel confident that
bear Bachmeyer can be great good, at least solid in
twenty twenty five and lead BYU to a bowl game
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and much better than that, maybe even an eight nine
to ten win season. Those that have been drinking the
blue kool Aid feel that way looking at the supporting
cast and the leadership. So who is the who's a
part of the twenty twenty five leadership Council?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
What do we make of this?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
BYU football head coach Kalani Shataki To yesterday announced the
captains and co captains that make up the program's team
Leadership Council for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
This is voted on by players.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
The seventeen member team Leadership Council consists of five captains
and twelve co captains, representing all three phases of the
team offense, defense, and of course specialtyas senior wide receiver.
Chase Roberts was again selected by his beers as team
captain after serving in that capaccity last season, while twenty
twenty four co captain Jack Kelly and senior linebacker A
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senior linebacker, and Tanner wall A senior safety, joined him
in being named captains for the twenty twenty five season.
Junior defensive tackle Canto Town of Vas. It's so great
to call him a junior. I hope he stays another
year for senior season. Maybe we can convince him and
he doesn't have to take his chance talents to the
National Football League in his first season in Provo after
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transferring Utah and junior running back LJ. Martin were also
voted as twenty twenty five team captains Senior kicker Will Farron,
senior defensive end Logan letwo We, senior safety Tallon al
Free That's an intriguing one, and senior offensive lineman Waylan Lapolach,
who will also repeat selections by their teammates to fulfill
leadership roles as co captains for the second straight season.
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Additional co captains on defense include senior cornerback Moury Bomba
LaBamba Love Mary Bomba, senior defensive lineman John Tomoypeu and
then junior safety Raider De Mooney and junior linebacker Isaiah Glasker.
Other offensive co captains include senior tight end Carson Ryan,
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junior offensive tackle Andrew Gentry, junior center Bruce Mitchell, and
freshman quarterback Bear Bachmeyer getting the tip of the cap
as a co captain. In all, the team leadership council
comprises nine seniors, seven juniors, and one freshman.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
This is what Kalani had to say about it.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
I'm confident in there in this leadership team our players
have selected. We have a lot of good leaders on
our team who will provide both leadership and support throughout
our program to make our team better. We are excited
for the season. The Leadership Council meets regularly to plan
and fulfill leadership responsibilities for the program, both on and
off the field. Four members of the team Leadership Council
will represent the team at the coin toss on the
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field for every game, while the others are providing leadership
in the locker room as the team prepares to take
the field. By you open twenty twenty five season this
Saturday when they host Portland State at Leavell Edward Stadium
six pmount zime. The game will be televised on ESPN
Plus and we can't wait to see you so thoughts
takeaways Commage Brett always bringing the hammer. What stands out
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to you about the leadership council? Oh, BYU football?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Did they do this when you were at BYU?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah, we had a leadership council. Now that there wasn't
co captains, but there was a leadership coucil. You had
you had like two captains, essentially an offensive and defensive captain.
It was different uh, and then you had a leadership
council that represented each position group. But it wasn't necessarily
I don't know if it was announced from the SID.
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It was more so an internal thing.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
What did they do, Like what was the purpose from
how you saw it when you were on the team,
because like for for us who never played, like I don't,
I don't know what any of this means. So maybe
you could give a little background, like as a player,
what was your experience observing this.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah, So I was a part of the leadership council
going into two thousand and seven after my junior season,
and I only did it for two weeks, and I said, look,
I don't even want to be a part of this
leadership council because I want to focus. I was just
in a different mindset like that. You have to kind
of understand my background. It just I didn't want to
allocate time to the leadership council.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
And it was once a week, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
About I don't know, an hour and a half or
so prior to team meetings and things of that nature.
I wanted to go get work done in the training room,
like warming up for practice, eating and preparing for practice.
I was also coming off an injury, So there were
some elements there, but what essentially it was was you
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would sit down with the head coach and maybe the
coordinators at times, but primarily head coach, and you would
discuss and I don't know if Klinie's doing the same thing,
any problems within the team, what we're seeing, what we want. So,
like one of the things that we approached early on
in the season was go asked us, do you want
me to be more of a a player's coach or
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do you want me to be more militaristic in nature?
And and a little bit more like, you know, just militaristic,
you know, Sop's discipline, effort. And like we all agreed
that we didn't need another friend. We didn't need a
player's coach. It wasn't his role to be that. We
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didn't want him to be something that he wasn't. And
so we said, look, just be who you are and
and if that's where you like off the field, if
you want to bring guys in on a one on
one basis to meet with them and discuss with them things,
that's great. But like collectively as a team, we don't
need you to just be a player's coach.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
We don't. This is what our position coaches are for.
We have plenty of friends.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
So that was an example we discussed maybe, you know,
certain personnel decisions, but not much that's more of a
coach's decision. It's feedback on what's happening internally within the
locker room too, and any questions that the head coach
has UH and maybe even the coordinators have.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
That's typical.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Even in that leadership council, they'll meet with like Keith
for King now, which is huge, a VP of advancement.
So they'll sit down within that leadership council sometimes and
they'll meet with the leadership that oversees the athletic department
and the football program, which is also important. I think
it's it's an imperative you gotta you gotta hear from
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the like you gotta hear from the leadership because maybe
the coaches aren't willing to communicate certain things that the
players need and the players need to be their own
advocates to upper campus sometimes, whether that's resources or that's
on our code, or maybe that's UH. You know, how
how nil IS is operating what gaps they see in development,
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what gaps they see within the program.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You want that feedback.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
You want Sane to interact, you want Keith for King
to interact, you want the athletic director to interact. There's
always silos to a certain degree. You got to remember
like human nature is I will. Human nature is the
individual is gonna do what's best for themselves. It's Darwinistic
in nature. It's a fight or flight methodology. They're gonna
do when put under pressure, when given the decision, They're
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gonna do what's in their own best interests. So coaches
will do what's in their own best interests. Maybe ads
will do. The VP, the president and the players, and
so it's like, okay, well what's best for the entire university,
the athletic tomorrow, the football program, and you have to
hear from every single component of the football program in
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order to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
As a leader.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So that's that's just one perspective that I have that
I can give to you anecdotally. So, uh, anything else
is it relates to that? Any other commentaries before we
kind of move on. The only the one.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Thing I'll say is, especially in an Nile world, you
and I guess not even Nile, but it's ea to
come across superstar mentality in college football and this idea
of I can do what I want because I'm popping.
I can be a jerk, and I can run amongst
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campus and I can do whatever I want because I'm
the big man on campus.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I'm the best guy here. I get paid the big bucks.
I can do whatever I want.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
It's interesting to me and incredible that Byu' is not
sacrificing personality for talent.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
They're able to maximize both.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
When you meet some of these individuals and obviously I
spent time with Will Farren, who's one of the members
of this council, And when you interact with and just
get to see, like you heard Chase Roberts in media,
he's talking about how like one of his favorite things
is getting to sign helmets and shirts for kids. And
it's just incredible to me that BYU has such a
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great team of individuals to put on this leadership council
and they don't have to say, well, he is our
best player, but he's kind of a jerk.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
He's gonna be on the council anyway. He's kind of
like that's not the case with any of these guys.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
There's not any of these guys that you wouldn't feel
comfortable just walking up and say hello to you, because
they're all incredible, great men and great leaders.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yeah, I would say the differentiating factor when I'm discussing
BYU's locker room versus other locker rooms around the country.
And look, Stanford could have a unique locker room, Vanderbilt
could have a unique locker room, Harvard and the Ivy
League schools could all have unique locker rooms and unique
cultures and things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
But from a holistic standpoint.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
You know who these young men are, where they come from.
These families are high level families, great mothers and fathers
that have reared these young men in ways of righteousness
and ways of temporal success as well from spiritual, moral,
to football and academic standpoint, there is not a better
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locker room in my opinion than that of Bhyu's locker room.
I have many former teammates and even going back to
like the nineties and eighties, I've interacted with a lot
of these boa football players. You know, Yeah, they have
their weaknesses, there's always you know, gaps, right, but like collectively,
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there's just so much high level. There's holistic humans in
that locker room that are all trending, trying their best
to be great fathers, great husbands and great businessmen and
great football players. Right, they want it all. And what
that does data shows scientific data. Like in fact, I
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was reading a study recently about socioeconomic success. One of
the biggest determining factors of socioeconomic success in your life
has to do with the zip code in which you live.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Why is that?
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Well, who do you go to church with, who do
you go to school with, what are they doing, what
are their parents teaching?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Like?
Speaker 5 (40:58):
All of those things are impactful, and it rubs off
on you. Like so when Christian Stewart, this is an
anecdote here is talking about trading gold and investing in
gold and precious medals in the locker room in twenty fourteen,
and and the people are like, oh, you trade precious medals?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Like, what is going on here?
Speaker 5 (41:19):
What other locker room is talking about investing in these
types of things?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
You know now? And that's just a temporal anecdote.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
But then they're going out and they're doing firesides in
front of the youth and talking about christ like disciples.
So these these young men fall short, like they all
do from time to time, but these are individuals that
are trying their best.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So that's that's what I would say about this leadership Council.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
It's just a it's just a well rounded, high level
group of young men leading your program. And these were
voted on by teammates, so I think it's unique and singular,
and I want to highlight that.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
And to your.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Point about the faith running through this football locker room,
that's not only people who are members of the Church
of Jesus Christ the Letter Saints, because there's guys on
this Leadership Council who have faith in it in a
different way and different denomination that are not members of
the Church of Jesus Christ Letter Saints that are still
supporting other people in their faith, which I also think
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is awesome.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Yes, indeed, no doubt about it. Guys, chime in on it.
What do you make of the leadership Council? What stands
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Speaker 5 (43:38):
I loved this particular stat I'm gonna I'm gonna feature.
I tweeted about it about three hours ago. You guys
need to read this article. It's really cool. It's a
tremendous I guess a positive fruit of the nil era. Okay,
David Ubin okay, and the New York Times and the
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Athletic put together a very interesting piece quoting I believe
fifty seven student athletes and what they've purchased with their
NIL money, how they've invested it, what they've done with it,
to give a little bit of perspective of, you know,
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how this nil world has gone down right, like everyone's
intrigued by like the impact of nil right, the idea
behind all. I guess the negative connotation surrounding anios that
these young men are just going to spend money on
frivolous things, things that are not needed, and that may
(44:40):
that they very well could be accurate spending money on
things that really aren't that important, but they delved into this.
National college football writer for the Athletic Coast of a
Bunch Formation tweeted about this. We asked fifty seven players
what their best purchase was with their nil money. Got
some fascinating and check this one out from Texas Tech
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quarterback Baron Morton.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
You're gonna see him this year, okay.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Texas Tech quarterback outdoorsman Baron Morton bought one hundred and
fifty acres of land near Cross Plains, Texas, which he
plans to lease out to hunters when he's not there.
And I quote it's thirty minutes from my parents' house.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Morton said. It has some fishing.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Tanks on it, a little elevation chain, so a lot
of deers, pigs, varmints, ducks, everything.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I mean, come on, this is crazy. Man.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Cal defensive lineman Aiden Canaa walked me through his self
built computer. David says, I was totally lost, but I
googled it after after I talked to him. Aiden, can
I believe BYU actually recruited aid In canna can In
check out his twenty four to seven sports.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Prospect list.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
I'm not I'm not completely certain, but Aiden is a
LDS and I think he he went to Notre Dame
initially and maybe A transferred anyways, see see if my
my cte is working, is UH is working tricks on
me or what have you? But Uh he built his
own PC with his nil earnings and listed off some
of the specs at ACC Media Days, Kanada Ina said,
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I'm a big and Nvidia guy, kidding me he should
be at PYU. I'm biased and I don't care if
others are cheaper. It's kind of like the PS five
or Xbox debate Intel. That's where I've always gone. I
have an I nine Dash one three nine zero zero
K processor for eighty G forty eighty graphics card, and
there are a twelve hundred power watt and I run
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dual monitors for all my PC games. I love hyperrealistic
games ready or not, shooters, strategy RPG. That's my arena.
Aiden Knanda Ina, Where did he owe? He was offered
by he was offered by B Where did he end
up at a high school?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Notre Dame? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Yeah, you ended up at Notre Dame and then he
transferred to CAL I bet you. I mean vic Soto
is probably his main recruiter.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
That got him there.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
Vicker's former teammate of mine. He's at Cal coaches the linebackers.
He's also maybe assistant defensive coordinator. Vic's a fantastic recruiter.
I want him at PYU. I'm selfish though, I want
all the former teammates coaching up at BYU. But kind
of interesting there with Aiden. He'd be a nice pickup
in the portal if he ever enters the portal again. Anyway,
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fifty seven of these guys, and I believe Jack Kelly
was quoted.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
He ended up purchasing a Ford Raptor, which is a
great vehicle, by the way. Great vehicle.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Great vehicle. So anyway, that's
all right my statut the day. What do you make
of this? I don't know if you've read through the
article at all, and and you know, have a few anecdotes,
anything that you want to chime in on here, Brent Hammery,
I think it's always interesting to discuss how these young
men are spending their nil money.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
The oddest one for me was Coy Perrich, who is
this hybrid offensive defensive player up at Minnesota. So in
the article they're talking about how everybody all these guys
who bought a vehicle, and then he categorizes that way,
and they said, like the one guy, not everyone opted
for a four wheel vehicle. Minnesota safety Coy Parrish preferred
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to scooter despite living in one of college football's coldest locales. Yeah,
I don't know that I would want to be driving
a scooter around Minnesota. And also do you have to
get snow tires on that thing when you want to
ride it to practice? So he said, it's probably my
best purchase ever. It's the only thing I ride on too.
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Now I'd love to know did he buy that this summer?
And he's not sure what he's gonna do with it
when we get to seven inches of snow in Minnesota?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Whi's crazy.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
But the one you brought up, I think is really
cool that he's buying acres of land, like he's spending
his money to make money.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
We talk about this show all the time.
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money to make more money.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Like it's cool to appreciate both.
Speaker 6 (49:09):
It's fun to appreciate that Jack Kelly is gonna go
buy a four raptor incredible vehicle. But it's also cool
to look at the opposite side of it and appreciate
both and say, like, these guys are using this money,
because I think that was one of the big issues
that people had, is that people were making money off
of these athletes for such a long time.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Then they'd graduate and they'd have nothing left.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
And their argument was, well, if we give them this money,
then they'll just blow it all away and they'll have
nothing left. Okay, cool, Look how they're spending their money.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
Keaton Thomas Baylor linebacker, Yeah, birthday present, sending NERF guns
to his brother back home. Like, there's so much good
being done with this money, in a fun way, in
a financially intelligent way, and kids are only going to
get smarter with the money. There's only going to be
better resources for this as we go along. Our people
gonna make dumb purchases, sure, but you can only learn
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from mistakes as time goes on. This is and shout
out to him, by the way, Uh, shout out to
this is an incredible art and incredible piece. Everyone's talking
about how we're gonna get ready for the season Waite
a Zig when everyone else is agging incredibly creative piece,
great stuff to see and it's cool just to be
able to celebrate the athletes in this way.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
The one thing that I've thought about with this Texas
tech player and his.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
His acreage that he purchased.
Speaker 5 (50:31):
So I don't know if you know the Ti Deppmer
story about you know, making money in the NFL, was
in the.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
NFL for a long time.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
Uh, he ended up getting took on a Ponzi scheme,
took a ton of money from him, Okay, and you
guys can look it up. And and unfortunately it was
actually I think a member of the church, which is
uh is horrific white collar crime in an affluent, you know,
Judeo Christian culture. It's we've seen it not just in
(50:58):
within the LDS community, but with and other face that
have maybe prosperity gospels associated with it, right, and you
can be taking advantage in these communal settings, right And
you know so Tye, you know, obviously is like the
most wonderful person in the world, probably doesn't hold any
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sort of grudge to anyone, but it was always like
intriguing to me, like, you know, how much money Tie
would have made in nil and what Tye utilizes money
for that he did make and even though he lost
a ton of it from you know, a Ponzi scheme
essentially that he got took for well. Eventually Ty purchased.
(51:40):
One of his best purchases was the T fourteen ranch.
It's owned and operated by the nineteen ninety Heisman Trophy
winner former NFOL quarterback Ty Demmer. Thirteen hundred acre ranch
is located in the heart of South Texas brush country
near Freer, Texas. Ty probably would have bought that T
fourteen ranch with his nil money prior and what have
had that is like an interest accruing ash st you know,
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cash flowing ashset from the time that he entered and
that he was at by U two throughout in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Right and uh, you know a.
Speaker 5 (52:12):
Texas boy who loves the hunt, loved to get out
there into his ranch and granted he came to BYU
was office corner. I got paid good some good money.
Now is that he's down at an American Leadership Academy as
a as an athletic director, maybe even a principal. He
wears a lot of hats down there in Arizona. Love
tight Emmer. So when when I was reading coach, you know,
(52:32):
the Texas dech quarter about the Texas quarterback in this interview,
and I was like, oh my gosh, that's exactly what
Ty freaking Detmer would have done had he had a
little bit of extra cash on hand in college through
NIM and shoot. I mean, can you imagine how much
money Ty would have made. It's kind of like the
Jimmer Fernett, he was the Heisman Trophy winner of college football.
Jimmer Forett was a nation with award winner. Like these
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They got great ROI I'm not saying.
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our questions and polls of the day. Yesterday we delved
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So I may do that a little.
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Bit here in the nitty gritty, but we do have
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of the twenty twenty five season. If you have not
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We're going to put you into a raffle because I
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nine and three, maybe ten and two.
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Huh, shoot eleven and one.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I don't know about that. Maybe you're a seven and
five type of guy. Maybe you're a six and six
type of guy or gal, but chime in on it.
Want to hear from you at crittle Bench, and we're
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Always bringing the hammer, always bringing the content.
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Somehow I get taller, I get older, but as I
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I think is probably like if there was a goal
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Here I have achieved it.
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When you're a part of the Cougar Sports Family, the
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Appreciate you here.
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He wears many hats. We got Ronald the free Man Weaver, Ronnie.
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Those comments are wild, though they've been put in the
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This is a college football show. And as I mentioned, look,
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It's on record.
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When uh, when the aliens come and they destroy try
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I sure, hope.
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So I'm sure, I hope so Ben, can I can
I say some jokes? Let me just say this last guys,
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We gotta get them dark people, Okay, keep going, go ahead.
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You know the BBC before being critical, Tim Binn said,
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Ben.
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I just wrote your last two statements as well. I
think girth and you know, the the upper lip with
the mustaches, what you're referring to with bread if.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You freeze kind of makes some good precedent for it
to be okay.
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So that one, I think you've proven yourself on.
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Andrew Peterson are Adrian Peterson because he's always rumbling, tumbling,
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Honestly, then I'm just ready for some football, Like at
this point, even though we're playing Portland State Saturday, like
we're not gonna be able to take anything from it,
but I just want football.
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Hey, look we will because the depth chart.
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We're gonna understand the depth chart at a higher level
coming out of Portland State. So everyone, look, you don't
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All right. I want to delve back into this depth chart.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
We discussed it to a certain level yesterday, but we
ran out of time.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I want to get into this further.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I'm about to post a tweet about this because I
think there is much more to this conversation than even
meets the eye, and so we're gonna delve into this
right now in the nitty gritty, So let me give
you some of my depart depth chart takeaways. If you
haven't reviewed it, go ahead and pull it up right now.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You can.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
You can probably find it on the interwebs and we
can review it together. We all know QB one is
bear Bachmeyer, he's locked in. QB two is still wide open,
still wide open. McKay hills did, Trayson Borgay and maybe
possibly even Emerson Gileman. We're the great thing about Portland
State is we're gonna find out who QB two is.
That's a great thing. Like we can put that one
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to bed at least for the time being.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Now.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
A Rod did tell us that the competition for QB
two will could go into you know.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Game three, Game four, maybe even Game five.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
He alluded to that in his press conference or his
media availability. I want to say this past week, maybe
I don't know these all these days go together. I
can't remember the last time he addressed the media, the
last time he walked up in front of the microphone.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's what he said.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
So okay, so that that's gonna be. It's now, who's
my favorite to win?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That man like.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
It's kind of a toss up for me because I
don't think McKay or Trason or Emerson even really separated themselves.
I leen McKay. I think McKay should be QB two.
I think he should be, and I think he will be.
But I found it very interesting that a Rod was
(11:25):
not going not declarative on that, which means there's work
to be done in that quarterback room. And McKay needs
to figure out how to separate himself. He needs to
figure out how to separate himself. He's too talented not
to be capable of separating himself. And I love Trason,
I love Emerson. I've applauded Emerson for his ability to
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compete early on.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But McKay should be QB two.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
He should earn it though fourteen or spots with still
plenty of competition to be had through the first few
weeks of the college football season. Let me get into
a few of these oars that I thought was interesting.
Mchayhillstead or Traysing Borgay obviously, Okay, you also have.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Kean Need or Ethan ericson Key.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And Need was highlighted in a media availability with Aaron
Roderck as well, the six five, two hundred and sixty
five pound junior transfer who came from New Mexico or
was it New Mexico State. One of the two Ethan
Ericson was supposed to be one of the stars. He's
a red shirt freshman. He struggled with injuries. Will he
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be ready? Will he be capable? Had some flashes early
on in his career, has had difficulty staying healthy and strong.
Noah Muliaki also included on the oars with Ethan at
tight end one or tight end two, tight end three,
tight end four. I lean Kean need here because he's
just so big and he's a blocking tight end that
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in line tight end spot and even upback spot could
be fulfilled by keyannim As.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You're why too. Other ores of.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Intrigue Whalon La Poo Wahoo or Sonny Makassini.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
No one's talking about this. No I's talking about this.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Like Whalen Lapoo Wahoo or Sonny Makassini at left guard?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Is this a competition? Waalan's a senior.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Whalen has been lauded as a NFL prospect at left guard.
The six foot four, three hundred ten Pounder, the transferm
of Utah State. That's crazy that or is in the
mix for Whalan Lapo Wahu with Sonny Maxina. Now, Sonny
has been highlighted over the years by our staff, by me,
by many others as a guy that, like even Coach
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Funk was trying to integrate he early on. I'm like, well, Sonny,
he's getting reps, getting reps in practice. He's into too deep, YadA, YadA, YadA.
He played a significant role last year and he got bigger, stronger,
more adept this offseason. He just he just keeps showing
up and making coaches remember his name.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Six four three fifteen red shirt junior.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Now, this could mean the or could mean that Sonny
is pushing for playing time as a starter. Or it
could mean that with Wayland's health in question, he's been
deemed up a little bit throughout fall camp that Sonny
could get some starts early. Your reaction to that bred
hammer Sonny Macasini, is there a drop up between Wayland
and Sonny?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Do you think at left guard?
Speaker 6 (14:32):
The thing that we keep hearing about this offensive line,
and we've heard it from a couple of coaches, is
anywhere between seven to some coaches saying nine guys could play,
and obviously, offensive line is one of those positions where
it's so tough on your knees and your ankles and
your joints that anything can happen and anyone can roll
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up on anybody. To me, that's almost one of the
positions that has to be has to be deep because
of frankly, what you're going to need.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You You really don't want LJ.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Martin having to make first contact with with defensive linemen.
You'd probably prefer his first contact to come at the
dB level outs on some stretch plays and the linebacker
level if you have to. And then in terms of
protecting the quarterback, like you don't want to get the
worst thing you can possibly do with a freshman quarterback
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is get into a position where your offensive line can't
hold up for him, and then he's never able to
build confidence. So when I see an or spot in
the offensive line side of the depth chart, it doesn't
concern me that much because we've been hearing this talk
that there's somewhere between seven to nine guys who could
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play on this offensive line that people could win with.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And then on top of all of that, in TJ Woods.
We trust TJ's been fantastic. I love that final you
know that final declaration. TJ should be taking this offensive
line to the two point zero level.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Like that was initial install last year, simplification, maximizing execution
of those simplistic seams.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Now we need to take it to the next level.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
And you do have a robust thirty plus starts I
think thirty four starts along the offensive line. That's a
solid grouping of starts there, and I expected them to
take it to the next level. This offensive line should
be better than it was last year. The other or
along the offensive line that I'm intrigued by Austin Leusa
and Kyle Superchoke, two former SUU players combining competing at
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that right guard spot. Austin does seem to be the startup,
but Kyle has been pushing him a bit in practice.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We'll see how that plays out. Uh so of intrigues.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Kyle's like a powerlifter, kind of a all are in
the middle six, four, three, ten, and we'll see how
that competition plays out in the initial.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Phases of the season.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Defensive side of the ball, maybe not as many oars,
but still plenty of wars. Billy Pouha, Billy Ambi Pouha,
the son of Sioni pouhad defensive end, is competing with
Body Schoon Number the bull, Okay, the bull body versus Billy,
who also looked really good last year. Remember some QB
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hits on Noah Fafida caused a I in T that
was snatched out of the air at the pylon by Tanner.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Wall t Wall Baby.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
So I find that one to be a very interesting
battle between the sophomore and red shirt junior. Will it
be vill or will it be body, doesn't matter. They're
probably gonna get some sort of equivalency of reps. If
you're in the two deep along the defensive line, you
can be considered a starter in my opinion. Quite honestly,
there may there's already equivalent see there of reps.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So it's typically a.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Two deep conversation anyway, At knows Navasa justin Kirklan, we
know that, and then Calfousi puff Kofe the transfer from Weaver.
You could see Kalfusi playing more behind Keanutnavasa than Justin
because he's still real rehabilitating from injury.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
So expect number seventy two.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Out there at OIE, you have Logan Ltoui, who is
your guy, but then you have all the oars.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's essentially a three man race between.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Orion, Miley, Calfusi, Hunter Klegg and Tao Celia Kana.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
All three of those guys are probably.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Gonna see the field this year until they separate themselves
in live game action. At OI, which is your I
would say it's your primary pass rushing defensive end spot.
Not to say that the strong side defense event doesn't
get involved. They do, and not to say that the
nose or defensive tackle don't get involved.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
They do.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
But Owi is like your stand up edge guy. Typically,
is Logan ready to take that leap? Yes, win healthy
because he's had some injury issues. But the two three
four spot right now, Kalfusi, Kleag and Akana. You have
two four stars there, two four stars behind Kalfusi, who
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coming out of high school. I don't know if he
was just a traditional kind of mid level three star.
I don't know if he had as much pop in
circumstance as these other two. By any means, he was
an eighty three composite. His offers were Oregon State, Air Force,
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Utah State, and finally BYU. Right, finally BYU came a
knocking that one is in creating very intriguing to me.
And now granted, Kalfusi, coming out of high school was
listened to an athlete in twenty twenty one class and
at that time he was six three to one ninety
(20:08):
and they really didn't know what position he was gonna play.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Now, Miley Kaufusi is six three two forty five and
playing the end. So nytry that's an interesting uh battle here.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
One of the other position battles that I think not
many people are talking about. Sialia Sera is a four
star linebacker and attempt view. I have highlighted his career
probably more in depth than anybody. Okay, his first play
that he was inserted versus I think TCU was an interception.
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Ended up having an injury that true freshman season and
had to.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Rehabilitate rehabilitate from that.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Finally saw some pt last year towards the end of
the season and got healthy and had a fantastic Bowl
versus Colorado, tracking down Schador from behind Italian. I think
his first sack of his career six three two forty
five re insert sophomore.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
There's an ore there.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
And by the way, Harrison Taggart was also in this
MAC room who is at cow now, and went into
Jay Hill, and Jay Hill alluded to it in one
of my interviews with him. Went into Ja Hill and
kind of said, Hey, I gotta be the guy. I
gotta beat the guy. I want more reps. I don't
want to be splitting reps. I want to be the
starting MAC and I don't want to be coming off
the field as much, which I think to a certain
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degree is fair. I do think it's fair to ask that.
But you got to earn it as well. And Jay said, look,
you got to earn that. No, no one's gonna get
it to you in the NFL. I can tell you
that much. You're gonna have to compete for it day
in and day out. You gotta be a dog and
compete every single day to not be taken off the field.
And so Harrison, he went out, he went and took
his talent to the portal. So consider that, and you
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have Shaye Brian Strawther, the UCLA transfer that's also in
that room at MAC now. Shaye Brian Strather can play
the sam, the rover, the mac position, and maybe even
some oe. In my opinion, he's that good six y
three two forty redshirt senior. But the fact that there
is an ore there behind sially is crazy to me
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because this would have been Harrison Taggart or Sialle or
shape Ryn Scrobert. Max Alfred is behind him and he's
had a great cap the six foot one, two hundred
and thirty pound junior transfer from Utah State. That room
is stacked, and it was stacked before.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Very interesting. Those are some of my intriguing UH components here.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
The other one, the final one, is this Tanner Wall
or Folatao Satawala, Raider de Mooney or Volatile Satawala. Maybe
not as surprising the Raider or Folatao because Folatow, I think,
at six four to two ten, seems to be strong
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safety type.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
More so than Free.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
But Tanner Wall is your fearless leader, team captain, has
proven it on and off the field to be all
in on the kilate culture and a playmaker on the field.
Last year tally interceptions, being a great tackler, always being
in the right position.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
There's never been a question mark about.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Who who tanner Wall is and what he can provide
to the free safety room. So Finaltaw being number two
in an ore phase, to me speaks to how much
j Hill has loved the progress of Folatole, how much
he loves his talent, his ability. He's upside and Jay's
been pretty effusive in his praise for Folatile, even when
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it's not like like elicited. I guess it's not like
you know, inquired upon you. He goes out of his
way to highlight Follataw.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
If you had asked me before the depth chart to
come out to give you the top four guys who
I was abb absolutely positively sure would not have an
OOR next to their name, it would have gone somewhat
in this order Keanutanovasa Jack, Kelly Isaiah Glasker and then
call me crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
But I think tanner Wall probably would have been fourth
on that list.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
So to everything you just said, the fact that tanner Wall,
I think the fact that tanner Wall has an ORR
near him is not an indictment of tanner Wall at all.
It's the fact that tanner Wall has raised the play
of that safety room so much that Falatao has said, Okay, cool.
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I'll come up through with you. Tanner I know, I
know you're up there, but I can join you. I
am still a little shocked that that Tanner Wall got
an or, But to me, that just speaks to what
Jay Hill has been saying, which he said there's three
to four guys in the safe room they can win with.
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And if Fallataw is as good as tanner Wall, that
means that is one heck of a safety room.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, it's it's It's deep, no doubt about it. The
other one that I didn't mention, I from Asciata backing
up Isaiah Glasger. I hate to take the Isaiah Glasger
off the football field because he is a next level defender,
next level player. He's one of the most unique football
players that we've had come through BYU at that linebacking
at that SAM position, which has fielded so many greats
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like if you go back and check tape of like
Brian Keel and our three four defense at sam uh
it was amazing to watch Keel cover so much space
and make plays and uh just being coverage. And Isaiah
is like a taller version, longer version of Keel, which
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is uh is is definitely welcomed.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Jordan Pendleton after that.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
An NFL player injuries derailed it, but a freak Jordan Pendleton.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Didn't Fred Warner play some safety while he was.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
In Fred Fred Warner at Sam. That's what I'm saying, Like,
ridiculous played Sam. Now he's playing like the mic linebacker
the NFL. But ridiculous player Alani Fua Sam played in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
That is probably his body type is more akin to
what Isaiah's is.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
And Elani obviously was tremendous playing in the NFL for
for a decent amount of time.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So I think also Matt Hadley played.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Some Sam too, a little bit more undersize was uh
with Spencer Hadley?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Excuse me and uh? And he was really nice.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
He was a great There's been so many great ones
that have played that Sam linebacker spot for Kugarnation through LBU.
So anyway, Ephram uh I I the fact that he
Ephram is gonna play this year and there's not an
ore designation, but Ephan's gonna play. He's gonna play more
this year. I hate taking Ig off the field, but
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Ephraim deserves it. He is a violent playmaker. He pursues
with fanatical effort. Ephram Assiata is one of the best.
I would say, uh like, it's a button press technique.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Its hat in.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Hands simultaneously exploding into a defense or an offensive player
tight ends, fullbacks, lineman.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
His hat in hands.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Violence is so transcendent at two hundred and ten pounds.
It is it is, it is beauty, it is fine art.
It is the fine art of football on display. It
is explosive, it is plometric, it is quick twitch, it
is celestial. And so he's gonna see the field ephrom
(27:49):
will Ephraim's fantastic. I love you from Asiada. I hate
seeing Ig go off the field. I don't want him
off the field. But if if he's gonna go off
the field, I love that Ephraim's coming in to back
him up. So anyway, those are some of my thoughts
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Before I go to break though.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Concerning the oars, Andrew Peterson, you know, what do you
make of all these oars on the depth chart?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, The only thing I have to say concerning the
oars is that Bran Santiago said football drives the ship,
and ships need oars.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Hell to the y. S Wow hell Wow's bells to
the s.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Let's go baby, uh Santia A good pull, good deep cut.
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There.
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to get into our question of polloday, what do we
make of the leadership council. You're only as good as
the leadership that you have within the locker room. This
is one of the reasons why we feel confident that
bear Bachmeyer can be great good, at least solid in
twenty twenty five and lead BYU to a bowl game
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and much better than that, maybe even an eight nine
to ten win season. Those that have been drinking the
blue kool Aid feel that way looking at the supporting
cast and the leadership. So who is the who's a
part of the twenty twenty five leadership Council?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
What do we make of this?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
BYU football head coach Kalani Shataki To yesterday announced the
captains and co captains that make up the program's team
Leadership Council for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
This is voted on by players.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
The seventeen member team Leadership Council consists of five captains
and twelve co captains, representing all three phases of the
team offense, defense, and of course specialtyas senior wide receiver.
Chase Roberts was again selected by his beers as team
captain after serving in that capaccity last season, while twenty
twenty four co captain Jack Kelly and senior linebacker A
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senior linebacker, and Tanner wall A senior safety, joined him
in being named captains for the twenty twenty five season.
Junior defensive tackle Canto Town of Vas. It's so great
to call him a junior. I hope he stays another
year for senior season. Maybe we can convince him and
he doesn't have to take his chance talents to the
National Football League in his first season in Provo after
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transferring Utah and junior running back LJ. Martin were also
voted as twenty twenty five team captains Senior kicker Will Farron,
senior defensive end Logan letwo We, senior safety Tallon al
Free That's an intriguing one, and senior offensive lineman Waylan Lapolach,
who will also repeat selections by their teammates to fulfill
leadership roles as co captains for the second straight season.
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Additional co captains on defense include senior cornerback Moury Bomba
LaBamba Love Mary Bomba, senior defensive lineman John Tomoypeu and
then junior safety Raider De Mooney and junior linebacker Isaiah Glasker.
Other offensive co captains include senior tight end Carson Ryan,
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junior offensive tackle Andrew Gentry, junior center Bruce Mitchell, and
freshman quarterback Bear Bachmeyer getting the tip of the cap
as a co captain. In all, the team leadership council
comprises nine seniors, seven juniors, and one freshman.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
This is what Kalani had to say about it.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
I'm confident in there in this leadership team our players
have selected. We have a lot of good leaders on
our team who will provide both leadership and support throughout
our program to make our team better. We are excited
for the season. The Leadership Council meets regularly to plan
and fulfill leadership responsibilities for the program, both on and
off the field. Four members of the team Leadership Council
will represent the team at the coin toss on the
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field for every game, while the others are providing leadership
in the locker room as the team prepares to take
the field. By you open twenty twenty five season this
Saturday when they host Portland State at Leavell Edward Stadium
six pmount zime. The game will be televised on ESPN
Plus and we can't wait to see you so thoughts
takeaways Commage Brett always bringing the hammer. What stands out
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to you about the leadership council? Oh, BYU football?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Did they do this when you were at BYU?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah, we had a leadership council. Now that there wasn't
co captains, but there was a leadership coucil. You had
you had like two captains, essentially an offensive and defensive captain.
It was different uh, and then you had a leadership
council that represented each position group. But it wasn't necessarily
I don't know if it was announced from the SID.
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It was more so an internal thing.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
What did they do, Like what was the purpose from
how you saw it when you were on the team,
because like for for us who never played, like I don't,
I don't know what any of this means. So maybe
you could give a little background, like as a player,
what was your experience observing this.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah, So I was a part of the leadership council
going into two thousand and seven after my junior season,
and I only did it for two weeks, and I said, look,
I don't even want to be a part of this
leadership council because I want to focus. I was just
in a different mindset like that. You have to kind
of understand my background. It just I didn't want to
allocate time to the leadership council.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
And it was once a week, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
About I don't know, an hour and a half or
so prior to team meetings and things of that nature.
I wanted to go get work done in the training room,
like warming up for practice, eating and preparing for practice.
I was also coming off an injury, So there were
some elements there, but what essentially it was was you
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would sit down with the head coach and maybe the
coordinators at times, but primarily head coach, and you would
discuss and I don't know if Klinie's doing the same thing,
any problems within the team, what we're seeing, what we want. So,
like one of the things that we approached early on
in the season was go asked us, do you want
me to be more of a a player's coach or
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do you want me to be more militaristic in nature?
And and a little bit more like, you know, just militaristic,
you know, Sop's discipline, effort. And like we all agreed
that we didn't need another friend. We didn't need a
player's coach. It wasn't his role to be that. We
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didn't want him to be something that he wasn't. And
so we said, look, just be who you are and
and if that's where you like off the field, if
you want to bring guys in on a one on
one basis to meet with them and discuss with them things,
that's great. But like collectively as a team, we don't
need you to just be a player's coach.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
We don't. This is what our position coaches are for.
We have plenty of friends.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
So that was an example we discussed maybe, you know,
certain personnel decisions, but not much that's more of a
coach's decision. It's feedback on what's happening internally within the
locker room too, and any questions that the head coach
has UH and maybe even the coordinators have.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
That's typical.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Even in that leadership council, they'll meet with like Keith
for King now, which is huge, a VP of advancement.
So they'll sit down within that leadership council sometimes and
they'll meet with the leadership that oversees the athletic department
and the football program, which is also important. I think
it's it's an imperative you gotta you gotta hear from
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the like you gotta hear from the leadership because maybe
the coaches aren't willing to communicate certain things that the
players need and the players need to be their own
advocates to upper campus sometimes, whether that's resources or that's
on our code, or maybe that's UH. You know, how
how nil IS is operating what gaps they see in development,
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what gaps they see within the program.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You want that feedback.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
You want Sane to interact, you want Keith for King
to interact, you want the athletic director to interact. There's
always silos to a certain degree. You got to remember
like human nature is I will. Human nature is the
individual is gonna do what's best for themselves. It's Darwinistic
in nature. It's a fight or flight methodology. They're gonna
do when put under pressure, when given the decision, They're
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gonna do what's in their own best interests. So coaches
will do what's in their own best interests. Maybe ads
will do. The VP, the president and the players, and
so it's like, okay, well what's best for the entire university,
the athletic tomorrow, the football program, and you have to
hear from every single component of the football program in
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order to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
As a leader.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So that's that's just one perspective that I have that
I can give to you anecdotally. So, uh, anything else
is it relates to that? Any other commentaries before we
kind of move on. The only the one.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Thing I'll say is, especially in an Nile world, you
and I guess not even Nile, but it's ea to
come across superstar mentality in college football and this idea
of I can do what I want because I'm popping.
I can be a jerk, and I can run amongst
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campus and I can do whatever I want because I'm
the big man on campus.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I'm the best guy here. I get paid the big bucks.
I can do whatever I want.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
It's interesting to me and incredible that Byu' is not
sacrificing personality for talent.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
They're able to maximize both.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
When you meet some of these individuals and obviously I
spent time with Will Farren, who's one of the members
of this council, And when you interact with and just
get to see, like you heard Chase Roberts in media,
he's talking about how like one of his favorite things
is getting to sign helmets and shirts for kids. And
it's just incredible to me that BYU has such a
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great team of individuals to put on this leadership council
and they don't have to say, well, he is our
best player, but he's kind of a jerk.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
He's gonna be on the council anyway. He's kind of
like that's not the case with any of these guys.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
There's not any of these guys that you wouldn't feel
comfortable just walking up and say hello to you, because
they're all incredible, great men and great leaders.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yeah, I would say the differentiating factor when I'm discussing
BYU's locker room versus other locker rooms around the country.
And look, Stanford could have a unique locker room, Vanderbilt
could have a unique locker room, Harvard and the Ivy
League schools could all have unique locker rooms and unique
cultures and things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
But from a holistic standpoint.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
You know who these young men are, where they come from.
These families are high level families, great mothers and fathers
that have reared these young men in ways of righteousness
and ways of temporal success as well from spiritual, moral,
to football and academic standpoint, there is not a better
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locker room in my opinion than that of Bhyu's locker room.
I have many former teammates and even going back to
like the nineties and eighties, I've interacted with a lot
of these boa football players. You know, Yeah, they have
their weaknesses, there's always you know, gaps, right, but like collectively,
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there's just so much high level. There's holistic humans in
that locker room that are all trending, trying their best
to be great fathers, great husbands and great businessmen and
great football players. Right, they want it all. And what
that does data shows scientific data. Like in fact, I
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was reading a study recently about socioeconomic success. One of
the biggest determining factors of socioeconomic success in your life
has to do with the zip code in which you live.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Why is that?
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Well, who do you go to church with, who do
you go to school with, what are they doing, what
are their parents teaching?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Like?
Speaker 5 (40:58):
All of those things are impactful, and it rubs off
on you. Like so when Christian Stewart, this is an
anecdote here is talking about trading gold and investing in
gold and precious medals in the locker room in twenty fourteen,
and and the people are like, oh, you trade precious medals?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Like, what is going on here?
Speaker 5 (41:19):
What other locker room is talking about investing in these
types of things?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
You know now? And that's just a temporal anecdote.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
But then they're going out and they're doing firesides in
front of the youth and talking about christ like disciples.
So these these young men fall short, like they all
do from time to time, but these are individuals that
are trying their best.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So that's that's what I would say about this leadership Council.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
It's just a it's just a well rounded, high level
group of young men leading your program. And these were
voted on by teammates, so I think it's unique and singular,
and I want to highlight that.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
And to your.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Point about the faith running through this football locker room,
that's not only people who are members of the Church
of Jesus Christ the Letter Saints, because there's guys on
this Leadership Council who have faith in it in a
different way and different denomination that are not members of
the Church of Jesus Christ Letter Saints that are still
supporting other people in their faith, which I also think
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is awesome.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Yes, indeed, no doubt about it. Guys, chime in on it.
What do you make of the leadership Council? What stands
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Speaker 5 (43:38):
I loved this particular stat I'm gonna I'm gonna feature.
I tweeted about it about three hours ago. You guys
need to read this article. It's really cool. It's a
tremendous I guess a positive fruit of the nil era. Okay,
David Ubin okay, and the New York Times and the
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Athletic put together a very interesting piece quoting I believe
fifty seven student athletes and what they've purchased with their
NIL money, how they've invested it, what they've done with it,
to give a little bit of perspective of, you know,
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how this nil world has gone down right, like everyone's
intrigued by like the impact of nil right, the idea
behind all. I guess the negative connotation surrounding anios that
these young men are just going to spend money on
frivolous things, things that are not needed, and that may
(44:40):
that they very well could be accurate spending money on
things that really aren't that important, but they delved into this.
National college football writer for the Athletic Coast of a
Bunch Formation tweeted about this. We asked fifty seven players
what their best purchase was with their nil money. Got
some fascinating and check this one out from Texas Tech
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quarterback Baron Morton.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
You're gonna see him this year, okay.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Texas Tech quarterback outdoorsman Baron Morton bought one hundred and
fifty acres of land near Cross Plains, Texas, which he
plans to lease out to hunters when he's not there.
And I quote it's thirty minutes from my parents' house.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Morton said. It has some fishing.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Tanks on it, a little elevation chain, so a lot
of deers, pigs, varmints, ducks, everything.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
I mean, come on, this is crazy. Man.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Cal defensive lineman Aiden Canaa walked me through his self
built computer. David says, I was totally lost, but I
googled it after after I talked to him. Aiden, can
I believe BYU actually recruited aid In canna can In
check out his twenty four to seven sports.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Prospect list.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
I'm not I'm not completely certain, but Aiden is a
LDS and I think he he went to Notre Dame
initially and maybe A transferred anyways, see see if my
my cte is working, is UH is working tricks on
me or what have you? But Uh he built his
own PC with his nil earnings and listed off some
of the specs at ACC Media Days, Kanada Ina said,
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I'm a big and Nvidia guy, kidding me he should
be at PYU. I'm biased and I don't care if
others are cheaper. It's kind of like the PS five
or Xbox debate Intel. That's where I've always gone. I
have an I nine Dash one three nine zero zero
K processor for eighty G forty eighty graphics card, and
there are a twelve hundred power watt and I run
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dual monitors for all my PC games. I love hyperrealistic
games ready or not, shooters, strategy RPG. That's my arena.
Aiden Knanda Ina, Where did he owe? He was offered
by he was offered by B Where did he end
up at a high school?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Notre Dame? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Yeah, you ended up at Notre Dame and then he
transferred to CAL I bet you. I mean vic Soto
is probably his main recruiter.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
That got him there.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
Vicker's former teammate of mine. He's at Cal coaches the linebackers.
He's also maybe assistant defensive coordinator. Vic's a fantastic recruiter.
I want him at PYU. I'm selfish though, I want
all the former teammates coaching up at BYU. But kind
of interesting there with Aiden. He'd be a nice pickup
in the portal if he ever enters the portal again. Anyway,
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fifty seven of these guys, and I believe Jack Kelly
was quoted.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
He ended up purchasing a Ford Raptor, which is a
great vehicle, by the way. Great vehicle.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Great vehicle. So anyway, that's
all right my statut the day. What do you make
of this? I don't know if you've read through the
article at all, and and you know, have a few anecdotes,
anything that you want to chime in on here, Brent Hammery,
I think it's always interesting to discuss how these young
men are spending their nil money.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
The oddest one for me was Coy Perrich, who is
this hybrid offensive defensive player up at Minnesota. So in
the article they're talking about how everybody all these guys
who bought a vehicle, and then he categorizes that way,
and they said, like the one guy, not everyone opted
for a four wheel vehicle. Minnesota safety Coy Parrish preferred
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to scooter despite living in one of college football's coldest locales. Yeah,
I don't know that I would want to be driving
a scooter around Minnesota. And also do you have to
get snow tires on that thing when you want to
ride it to practice? So he said, it's probably my
best purchase ever. It's the only thing I ride on too.
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Now I'd love to know did he buy that this summer?
And he's not sure what he's gonna do with it
when we get to seven inches of snow in Minnesota?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Whi's crazy.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
But the one you brought up, I think is really
cool that he's buying acres of land, like he's spending
his money to make money.
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Like it's cool to appreciate both.
Speaker 6 (49:09):
It's fun to appreciate that Jack Kelly is gonna go
buy a four raptor incredible vehicle. But it's also cool
to look at the opposite side of it and appreciate
both and say, like, these guys are using this money,
because I think that was one of the big issues
that people had, is that people were making money off
of these athletes for such a long time.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Then they'd graduate and they'd have nothing left.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
And their argument was, well, if we give them this money,
then they'll just blow it all away and they'll have
nothing left. Okay, cool, Look how they're spending their money.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
Keaton Thomas Baylor linebacker, Yeah, birthday present, sending NERF guns
to his brother back home. Like, there's so much good
being done with this money, in a fun way, in
a financially intelligent way, and kids are only going to
get smarter with the money. There's only going to be
better resources for this as we go along. Our people
gonna make dumb purchases, sure, but you can only learn
(50:03):
from mistakes as time goes on. This is and shout
out to him, by the way, Uh, shout out to
this is an incredible art and incredible piece. Everyone's talking
about how we're gonna get ready for the season Waite
a Zig when everyone else is agging incredibly creative piece,
great stuff to see and it's cool just to be
able to celebrate the athletes in this way.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
The one thing that I've thought about with this Texas
tech player and his.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
His acreage that he purchased.
Speaker 5 (50:31):
So I don't know if you know the Ti Deppmer
story about you know, making money in the NFL, was
in the.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
NFL for a long time.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
Uh, he ended up getting took on a Ponzi scheme,
took a ton of money from him, Okay, and you
guys can look it up. And and unfortunately it was
actually I think a member of the church, which is
uh is horrific white collar crime in an affluent, you know,
Judeo Christian culture. It's we've seen it not just in
(50:58):
within the LDS community, but with and other face that
have maybe prosperity gospels associated with it, right, and you
can be taking advantage in these communal settings, right And
you know so Tye, you know, obviously is like the
most wonderful person in the world, probably doesn't hold any
(51:19):
sort of grudge to anyone, but it was always like
intriguing to me, like, you know, how much money Tie
would have made in nil and what Tye utilizes money
for that he did make and even though he lost
a ton of it from you know, a Ponzi scheme
essentially that he got took for well. Eventually Ty purchased.
(51:40):
One of his best purchases was the T fourteen ranch.
It's owned and operated by the nineteen ninety Heisman Trophy
winner former NFOL quarterback Ty Demmer. Thirteen hundred acre ranch
is located in the heart of South Texas brush country
near Freer, Texas. Ty probably would have bought that T
fourteen ranch with his nil money prior and what have
had that is like an interest accruing ash st you know,
(52:04):
cash flowing ashset from the time that he entered and
that he was at by U two throughout in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Right and uh, you know a.
Speaker 5 (52:12):
Texas boy who loves the hunt, loved to get out
there into his ranch and granted he came to BYU
was office corner. I got paid good some good money.
Now is that he's down at an American Leadership Academy as
a as an athletic director, maybe even a principal. He
wears a lot of hats down there in Arizona. Love
tight Emmer. So when when I was reading coach, you know,
(52:32):
the Texas dech quarter about the Texas quarterback in this interview,
and I was like, oh my gosh, that's exactly what
Ty freaking Detmer would have done had he had a
little bit of extra cash on hand in college through
NIM and shoot. I mean, can you imagine how much
money Ty would have made. It's kind of like the
Jimmer Fernett, he was the Heisman Trophy winner of college football.
Jimmer Forett was a nation with award winner. Like these
(52:54):
guys just didn't get enough. Uh, you know when the
when they were playing right, they did not get there.
They got great ROI I'm not saying.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
They didn't, but what could have been? What could have been?
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