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for all my questions and polls of the day. A
couple of things I want to delve into. Aaron declared
that LJ. Martin Chase Roberts were the MVPs on the
offense side of the ball for fall camp. It made
me think about what the expectations are for this BAU
Cougar football team from the fan base stamp, but from
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the media's standpoint. I think there is a certain segment
of the BAU football population fan population that he's convinced
that by is gonna win ten games, ten plus games. LJ.
Martin's gonna rush for one thousand, Chase Roberts gonna receive
a thousand, and bear Bachmeer's throwing for twenty five hundred
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yards plus. So it made me think in my poll
of the day. In my mind, as I have these debates,
I wake up in the middle of the night, I'm like, oh,
that'd be a great poll today. It'd be a fan
I stay up late at night and I think about
these questions and polls that I can put out. Think
of our show as a place where, like you're out
on the golf course when you're with your boys, a
bunch of BA fans and you're just like debating random things, right,
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just competing on these but you're also competing with your
BYU sports take. That's what we do here. At ESPN,
The Fan and Cougar Sports. So what's the most likely
statistic to be accomplished? Is it bear throwing for twenty
five hundred yards as a true freshman. That's difficult. That
ain't easy. Being cheesy, okay? Is it lj Russian for
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one thousand? It's been hard for running backs to just
stay healthy in college football in the NFL, especially f
YU Chase Roberts, NFL future NFL wide Receiver All Big
twelve preseason candidate right b a wide receiver thousand yards receiving.
That's stuff to do. That ain't easy. Dax has done
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it right, Austin Colley has done it. Puka didn't even
do it. Phoka did not do it. So it's not
easy to do. It's not easy accomplished, or I'm gonna
give you a fourth option. BYU wins ten plus games,
what's the most likely stat to be accompass I know
there are team stats and then there are individuals ones.
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Unless you guys want to you know, I'll welcome in
my coast. We can change it up here at the
last second. But I thought about, Hey, what's a fourth
stat we could throw in there? Ten wins, ten wins.
So stay tuned, want to get into that. We're gonna
get our question of the day as well. Apparently on
the defense side of the ball, there was a standout
per Kelly Papinga, the guy that was most productive. Apparently
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it was E from Assata. Wow, I want to get
into that. What does that mean for Cougar football and
this Cougar defense? If E from Osiata was the most
productive player on this BAU defense throughout all of fall camp,
what does that mean for this Cougar football team? But
what does it mean for his pet? Want to know
that as well. So stay tuned, don't go anywhere. Lots
to get to keep it dialed in. We're gonna be
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getting through traversing all of the Cougar sports content that
money can buy without further ado. Let's fire it up
the ESPN the fans starting lineup, and I can introduce
you to my co host and the rest of the
star set of cast joining us for a wednesdaytion of
Cougar Sports. All right, I got so much talent surrounding me.
I have like a supporting cast like under bear Bachmeyer. Today,
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let's welcome in first and foremost, our executive producer he
does a lot of things around here. Ronald the three
man Weaver. What's up, Roddy, what's up? The fans don't
have to be mad at me today. There's no Olympic sports,
there's no basketball talk.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
It is all football.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I try to get it in when it needs to
be talked about early. But guys, it's gonna be all
football for the rest of the week. So you can
be happy because BYU plays Portland State in T minus
two days. For me, I'm already locked in.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Let's get it, let's go. Let's also welcome in Brent,
always bringing the hammer on the digital content production. What's up, Brent.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
So if we are the supporting cast, like unto Bear Bachmeier.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And my Chase and your LJ, which is yeah, I'll
take LJ.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I I'm a little I'll take the brother the brother tattle.
I like to be in fact, I like physical contact
a lot. I like the bully people him over on
maybe five six, but I'm stout. I'll take that.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah, Chase and I have some similarities. Absolutely, the first
guy in Last Guy Out, your lunch pale type guy.
I like that, almost as tall as Chase Roberts. We
got some similarities for sure, great comp.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I love it. Let's also welcome in a p Andrew Peterson, Andrew,
howck are you buddy?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Doing pretty good? I guess I'm the part that is
just happy to be here.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Cody, Cody Hagan, he's young, Carson, Ryan, you have big time? Yeah, baby,
because you know maybe Vick is Carson a tight end. Vic,
well you know that, and then yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Codygan, I have.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
I did have some speed at one point in time.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I I have a take that's not been discussed yet,
but it's just a little kind of side tangent to me.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Aaron Roderick has.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Found two personalities at quarterback that he really loves and
he's just replicating them. He loved Zach Wilson at the
podium and Jake Retzlaff was the second coming at the podium,
not production wise, let's just let's put that out there.
And then he loved Jaron Hall and Bear Backmeyer just
reminds me a lot of the way. And then that
Jaren Hall spoke at the podium. The vibe is similar. Obviously,
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Bear's a little bit more laid back. Jared was a
very serious guy, but the vibe is kind of it's
very similar. And then Ryder Lions again in that Jake
ritz Lab Zach Wilson type of just approach, attitude in.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Your face, not going to back down, Gunn's talk.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Yeah, it's just kind of funny to me.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's like it's they're just starting to repeat, you know,
the personalities at the podium.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, I think that's an interesting commentary. Look, if you
look at the each quarterback under the Aaron Roderick tenure,
you do have to include Tanner Mangham in that because
he did start as the starting quarterback in twenty eighteen
before he was ousted by Zack Wilson, and you have
to wonder why he was ousted. You know, I wish
they would have probably employed a different scheme to start
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the season rather than Matt Canada offense. They ended up
going kind of gun rpo in the second half of
the season with Zack Wilson, Tanner, Zach, Jaren Keton Okay,
and and then Jake and now it's it's a Bear's team.
So those are your starting quarterbacks under Aaron Roddick. And
what's interesting is like, yeah, there's probably some similarities, but
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there's also a lot of differences between all these guys.
One common thing you will see, though, that A Rodd
does love is the dual threat ability. He wants to
run the quarterback. I think he I think he should
have probably run Keaton a little bit more. I think
even though he's more of a pro stout quarterback, I
think he's shown an ability now to run. He ran
a four or five laser like he's got the clay.
(08:35):
We probably should have ran him a little bit more.
He just he's not as shifty, he's not as elusive.
There's elusivity and then the speed. But a Rod loves
to run his quarterbacks and he will continue to run
his quarterbacks. Personality wise, you have Jared who's a little
bit more reserved, as well as Bear Kidton. I don't
think was overly like well Kidon was probably in the
middle of the ground guy, right.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It was just kind of a professional, you know, I've
been there before type of.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
When he was at pitch, he did say he dropped
like an F bomb though before a rivalry game. I
want to say, you remember that. I don't know if
you saw that go viral anyways, So he's got a
little piss and vinegar in him. Zach had a little
bit like we were talking about Jim McMahon swagger to
him without the honor code violations, right like anyway, and
and so yeah, there's a diverse skill set, diverse background,
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and but some similar skill sets as well. So I
can't wait. And and by the way, this was a
statu of the day of Kippo, like last week, the
last three quarterbacks that have started for by you all
not members of the Church of Jesus Christ, the Lottery Saints. Man,
that's crazy. I mean at A at A B y B.
Why everyone thinks outside of BYU that only Mormons go
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to the school. So I do think it's interesting that
your face typically of the program, which is your quarterback,
has not been a member of the Church's christiatter of Saints.
So I think King Slovas, you could say, from a
genealogical standpoint with the name last name Slovas, he's got.
I think he's Christian. But I mean his family, in
generous to pass was Jewish, Jake rest left Jewish and
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now you have a Catholic leading heart of Glorian victory
in bear Bachmeyer. So a little fun fact of the
day as we start off the show. Check out the
rest of our ESPN the Fans starting lineup. Darnell Dixon,
Double D of The Daily Hero will join us for
a Cougar Bean at three oh five. Logan Latouwei addressed
the media yesterday. We'll get into a player profile. What
does he see from this BYU defensive line? Four oh five,
we'll get into some Josh Pate sound pat state his
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college football Insider segment. He discusses rivalry games, their names
that are going away. We'll get into the Holy War,
what that means with the Holy War and whether or
not Utah and Bay you like the name Holy War?
Four point thirty. J Hill addressed the media yesterday. What
does he feel about his defense? What's up with the
cornerback room? Does he like the depth there and across
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his defense? At five o' five, Hank Bachmeyer, the big
brother of Bear and Tiger, will join us. We'll get
to know Tiger and Bear a little bit better. At
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Riley Nelson, the Lusher's air Lefty, get his thoughts on
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Let's listen to the soundbites who is it and why,
and then we'll get it into our poll of the day.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Well, LJ, I mean, he's a standout. He's always been
a good player, but you can just see that he's
taking his game to another level this year. He's starting
with just what great shape he's in. You know, he
he lost some weight, he trimmed up and he's still uh,
you know, looks great out there. And he's I would
say he's he's faster than he's ever been and he's
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just playing fast. You can tell the games really slowed
down for him because he's played so much football. And
then Chase as well. I think Chase is kind of
taking his game another level too.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
He did.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
Those two guys have just played so much football now
you can tell that there they already know they're anticipating
what's going to happen, you know, pre snap and and
just kind of one step ahead of the opponent.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Mm hm, m VP, Chase Roberts MVP. And it's not
a surprise, it's maybe what we all suspected. But but
LJ is different this year. Is Chase really that different?
Has Chase really taken a big jump in his athleticism
(13:57):
like unto l J? Mart I would say Chase is
healthy now, which is good, right, Remember he got injured
in the Bowl game and he's probably a little bit
more refined in his route running. Maybe he's a little
bit more physical. I haven't seen necessarily like an increased
person and increase athleticis I haven't seen necessarily like this
next level yet. I want to see it. I want
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to see it like I haven't seen a fall camp.
I will say LJ has been transformed. He is an Adonis.
He is big as strong as fast. You know, Lj's
always been big and he's been quick, and he's got
good vision and he's a good catcher of the football.
Now he's added an additional layer to his game, which
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is top end speed and second level, second and third
level defenders are gonna meet that speed and they better
take proper angles because if you don't, LJ could be
housing it. So I would actually lean towards LJB and
the MVP of Fall Camp. And I'm not trying to
like undermine a Rod by any means, but LJ I
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think is a dude. I think he's a guy we
just gotta keep. Hopefully, I'm just fingers crossed he stays
healthy as he does begin to get into that twenty
twenty five touches through the ground and the round game
and the receiving game while also being a part of
pass pro et cetera. That's a lot of wear and
tear on the body. Can he withstand the vicissitudes of
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a college football season? So I don't think anyone's gonna
argue with the MVP awards. Is there anyone else that
would have been in the running? Do you think, guys,
is anybody that you thought should have been in the running? Ronnie?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I mean, if you want to really get into it,
like maybe you throw Carson Ryan in there, you know,
maybe you do, like I think that's a guy that
you like, you just can't look at see none of
your head been like this guy, at least in medium
what we saw every time we showed up, we saw
this man catching passes.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Bear McKay trace and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I saw him catch I think a touchdown pass from
all of the quarterbacks outside of Emerson Galman in that room,
and I was amazing in the most impressive catch Again.
I'll bring in the NFL reference Lamar Jackson, Mark Andrews, Mahomes,
Travis Kelsey type as tight window with you know a
certain safety won't say his name dripped all over him
and it was beautiful. Carson Ryan and AP he's been
(16:21):
declared about this and I'm backing up on this and
I'm gonna agree. He's gonna be a second leader in receiving,
with rushing, with receiving yards, it's gonna be chased. Then
it's gonna be Carson Ryan, and then the pick of
the litter after that is you want if you're Bear.
But Carsonian is a dude, He's a problem. He's reformed
his body and b y U and eeronics offense been
is about to remind people why they run the dang
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football throw to the tight ends.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Well, I want to add another just layer to Mike
Carson Ryan hype. I think he's gonna lead the team
in third down receptions. I think he's that good, that
reliable to a new quarterback, having a tight end that
can just be your safety blanket like that, especially on
third downs.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Big body.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean, I think he's gonna be a problem for defenses,
Like Chase Roberts is gonna lead the team in receptions
and yards, but in terms of crucial third down receptions,
I think your go to guy is probably Carson Ryan,
followed by a Chase Roberts.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So I'm gonna shift a little bit with my polar
the day. I'm gonna include Carson because I agree with
Ronnie that was that that individual needed to be included
in the MVP for the offense in fall camp, and
I feel bad for my offensive lineman. You know, shout
out to Andrew Gentry and Isaia Johnny. You guys had
great fall camps too, and but we always gotta go
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with our skill guys, you know what I mean. We
gotta go with our guys their dudes. But so I'm
gonna put the statistical threshold for receiving for Carson Ryan.
It can't be a thousand yards just because like there's
very few one thousand yard receivers or tight ends in
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BYU football history. Like, I just I don't know how
often it's really happened quite on. Maybe six hundred. Yeah,
I mean Dennis Pitta in two thousand and eight had
a thousand yards receiving. Maybe David Mills Clay Brown had
had a year in nineteen eighty, right, he had a
he had a he had a freaking monster year. Gordon
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Hudson had nine to sixty in nineteen eighty one. Gordon
Hudson had ninety nine hundred and twenty eight in nineteen
eighty two. Johnny HARLEYN and five had eight fifty three.
So you're like going down this list, You're like, Okay,
what's the threshold? Is this seven hundred? Is that what
we're looking at, like as like a monumental, like big
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time season for a tight end seven fifty you know
what I mean? I may put it at around seven hundred.
So so I took out the win total. So LJ.
Martin thousand rusher, Chase Roberts one thousand yard receiver, Carson
Ryan say like seven hundred yards receiving. I may I
may mess around with that. Bear Bachmeier twenty five hundred
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yards throwing, which one is most likely to occur and why?
And remember a Rod likes to distribute the ball. He's
gonna target Chase Carson, you know, and so like for
one guy to tally one thousand yards receiving, I think
is that's a big ask. That's a big ask, even
if you are the MVP of fall camp, and even
if you are the returning VET, and even even if
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you are the projected you know, NFL draft pick coming
out of that receiver room. Which one's most likely to
occur in why?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Guys, I mean to me, I've been on the l
J hype train all summer long, all all year long.
It to me, it has to be LJ, especially with
the true freshman at QB. LJ is gonna help set
up the pass by his through his rushing threat. Teams
are gonna have to respect to his rushing ability. That's
(20:01):
gonna help set up the past. But I think he's
the foundation of the offense this year. I think he's
gonna get fed.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
The ball a lot.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
He's added a lot to the game, as you've documented.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I really think the most likely of all of those
is LJ getting a thousand yards if he's healthy all year.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, I'd agree with you. I think that's the most likely.
I would also say, I mean, someone would make the
argument that Beart Bachmeyer can can can can throw for
twenty five hundred yards. If Jake RETZLAFKTZO throw for twenty
nine hundred and be mediocre and be above average, than
Bear Bachmeyer can do it. He's a four star after all, right,
He's he's the golden child right now. And I get it.
(20:44):
I understand that that that methodology, I understand like that
that approach, et cetera. But I think you're right. I
think LJ is the guy. LJ is the individual that
you look towards as the bell cow watching him, You're
seeing what he's done last season, the year before, and
(21:05):
you're like, this is his time, this is his year.
He won't be stopped, this is his this He's the
next Tyler hows year. He's the next Jamal Williams, He's
the next Harvey Una, He's the next Luke Staley. I mean,
we got a couple all those guys together as former
BYU greats. I know Luke was a dog Walker Ward winner,
but all those other three running backs had have had,
(21:27):
you know, better, NFL careers because they were able to
stay healthier. Best ability is always your availability. Remember that.
So there are some though that would make a strong
argument for Carson Ryan. In all of our media availabilities,
Carson Ryan was consistently targeted time and time again, time
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and time again, like he made plays every single practice.
When we're talking about safety valves, is Chase really a
safety valve or is he an outside wide receiver. Typically
a safety valve is an individual that's lined up as
an inline tight end or a flex tight end. Sometimes
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you get a safety valve at running back. Wide receivers
are not necessarily always labeled as a safety valve. I
guess if you're Calvin Johnson and you're six to six
and you're built like a tight end, you run a
four to three and the quarterback Stafford can just throw
it up to you all the time, you're gonna come
down with it. Yeah, I guess. I guess you're a
safety valve. But more often than not, it's not a
(22:34):
wide receiver. So I think there's an argument actually for
Carson Ryan to eclipse seven seven hundred yards receiving. Now,
he hasn't done it yet in his career, but you want,
you know, if we're gonna have him on the field
all the time, he's in every down tight end. Last
time BYU had an every down tight end was who
(23:01):
Isaac Rex?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Before that, Matt Bushman, the.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Gazelle, they call them the Elk Isaac Rex. And what's interesting,
and maybe we're going too high on that threshold of
seven hundred dards. We may have to say, like five
hundred twenty twenty Isaac Rex had four to twenty nine
yards and thirty seven receptions in twelve touchdowns. That was
(23:27):
twenty and twenty, So I may have to modify this.
I was kind of looking at the data and like saying, like,
what's an equivalency for a tight end? And it may
be five hundred yards, So I'm gonna put that in there.
I think it'll add to the equation a little bit.
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so uh let's get into a question of the day here.
(26:12):
If from Asciata is a very intriguing study to me, Okay,
I want to play this. Uh Kelly papinga sound. How
do you get the best eleven on the football field.
It's hard, especially when you have so much depth. Like
you ask for depth, you ask for quality of players,
but then you have to put him in his backups
(26:35):
and then you gotta implement him into and and create
opportunities for now. J Hill, the J. J. Hill said, Hey,
we're gonna employ our our second stringers all the time.
It doesn't matter that it's Portland State this week. Like
they're gonna play a lot, we're gonna we're always gonna
rotate that we're gonna create development there. So let's listen
(26:56):
in as Kelly Pepinga discussed who the most impactful player
was during camp. From his perspective, he's.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Kind of in the same mold as like Lasker and
Jack Kelly, where you'll you'll see him a backer sometimes
sometimes you'll seem a defensive end. So it's a little
hybrid position that our guys play. They go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Because he's a little smaller than typical.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, man, he had he was the most productive
player throughout all fall camps. So we do a production
board and he came out as number one as fall
camp in. It's so very productive throughout Fall camp. And
he's a he's a football player, so you'll see him.
He'll be all over the phild. I promise you that
he's a guy that Career Nation wants to make sure
they keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I promise you that he will be all over the
football field. He'll line up at the second level, he'll
line up at the first level, right along the line
of scrimmage. I'll tell you what I was trying to
track this video down. His dad former you doh great
NFL VET put a little mixtape together from Falk Camp
(28:02):
for uh for his boy Ephraim fat Boy as they
call him, that's his nickname. Guys, this kid is so
explosive violence, so violent, Like I mean even last year,
like going through like one on ones. He's completely undersized.
(28:23):
He's probably sitting at like one ninety five two hundred pounds.
He's going against Yeah young tackles at BYU. But there
they're all one hundred pounds more than him, and he's
putting them on their backs. So just imagine eventually e
from Mociata getting to two hundred and forty pounds two
hun thirty pounds. Shoot even at two twenty. He's only
at two ten right now, This dude is going.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
To be.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
A beast.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
He's gonna be a monster. Love watching. I mean, he's
so fast too. There was one play McHale sits fast, right,
would we all agree? Mchahill sets pretty fast. He can scoot.
You know, he ran like a ten nine in high school,
was probably gonna run a ten to seven dual threat quarterback.
He's nifty, he's quick, he's fast. I mean McKay took
(29:08):
a keeper off the edge and granted, Ephraim's got an
angle coming inside out, but this dude track. This is
one of the This is one of the highlights I
think from the defense in one of the fall camp
scrimmages at Lavell Edwards Stadium. You can go back and
you can see it in the highlights that BAU social
(29:29):
media team posted. Ephrom tracked down McKay with with relative ease,
tagged him off to the field side. It wasn't to
the boundary side. It wasn't to the short side of
the fields, to the field side. He's got some galley,
he got some scooped to him. But how do you
employ him? Where do you put him? He's listed behind
Isaiah Glasker. Does that mean he's only going to play
(29:50):
that position? Probably not. Piggybacking off of you know, a
depth chart conversation we were having off the air. You know, well,
the depth chart is what it is. You can say
the sid puts it together. You can say that the
coaches put it together. It's probably a little conglomeration of
both with some feedback from both. I would imagine Ephram
(30:13):
has been cross trained also to play behind Jack Kelly.
He's going to be similar to Jack Kelly. You heard
K Pop mentioned Isaiah is a different player to that
of Jack, but he's got some similar qualities as well.
You can move these guys around. Ephraim's going to be,
(30:33):
I believe, one of the standouts of the defense in
some of these high profile games. He's that good. I
think they're gonna get him involved in the PAS rushing. Now,
Jack Kelly's the best pass rusher, but I don't think
think Ephram Isaiah, are that far off from from Jack? Well,
they're a little bit, but not not as far.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's not as stupid as a drop as you may think.
Ephram is a guy that must see the field dish year.
And you hear it in Kelly's voice, you know, like
when you're when you're excited.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Go back and listen, sound like crusty.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Hey, go back and listen to Let's play it again
so you can hear it. Okay, it's like a giggle.
It's an excited game. Let's play Kelly, but again talking
about Eata.
Speaker 9 (31:25):
And uh Jack Kelly where you'll you'll see him a
backer sometimes sometimes you'll seem a defensive end. So it's
a little hybrid position that our guys play. They go
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Because he's a little smaller than typical.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Yeah, yeah, man, he had he was the most productive
player throughout all Fall camps. So we do a production
board and he came out as number one as Fall campaign.
It's so very productive throughout Fall camp. And he's a
he's a football player, so you'll see him. He'll be
all over the field. I promise you that he's a
guy that career Nation wants to make sure they keep
an eye.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I promise you that that's called like when a coach
does that. Like he was even keeled throughout it all right, Stow,
He's like, hey, he's a good football. He's gonna be
all over the field. I promise you that that's excitement.
You don't hear it all the time from coaches and
(32:12):
K Pop loves him for me from Asiata, he's got
a lot of good players. He's at has in his
repertoire right now, in his wardrobe right and he's uh
in in his group of oh we use and in linebackers.
But he's gonna see the field a lot from Asiata.
How do you guys feel about that? How do you
employe from Asiata? How do you utilize his talents his abilities?
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well, it's like you said, I think he's very versatile
and that he can play multiple positions at linebacker. I
think from from what it sounds like, he's played well
enough to essentially be the guy that comes in of
relief of almost any of the linebackers if they need
a break, if they're if they're a little bit gassed
after a after a driver, after a sequence of plays,
(32:56):
has send Ephraman give him a little break, and he
can do that for all almost any of the linebacker positions,
which I think is a it's it's a valuable thing
as a player.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
If you can do that, that is crucial for the
development I think.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I think the thing that that that h Kelly pepingas
just locking his chops at here is hey, we've got
We've got maybe the future of the lineback after after
a Jack Kellyan and Isaiah glaskerly because those are tremendous talents.
He's going, yeah, we can we can repeat that with Eframaciata.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I would love to see it.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Ronnie your thoughts, Yeah, you're gonna get maximized potential with
all those any smart DC which Jaala is very smart.
He knows how to develop talent. He knows how to
develop his skill set. You know the strains obviously. I
mean when you're playing and correct me if I'm wrong. Right,
he's playing the will linebacker position, right, Ben Well.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I think he's been cross trained and all of them, yes,
between Sam and the weak side outside linebracker position.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
As well, so he's been training all of them.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
But if he's playing the will one, right, I mean
he we know he could do the run defense, stopping
the in the BN, the C gap, He's gonna bring
pressure down in that regard Ben, he can move sideline,
the sideline and his speed and his coverage ability. I
mean he's a natural fit of hike and float to
the football like he's gonna chase you down in the
flat in zones, you don't want to come this way.
If you come forty four his way, he's gonna make
(34:18):
your pay. It's just that simple when you go look
at the tape, when you look at how violent and
physical he is. And to be honest, I don't want
to You know how I feel about Jack and I G.
You know how I feel about them. I know what
they can give me. I want to see this kid.
I want to see he's able to do with this
position because I know what seventeen and sixteen are gonna
give me.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Boom, you know, bringing PB.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
And J whatever they want to call themselves, ying Yang,
bringing the boom however you want to see it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
But what is it? A boom bang?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
As they say in w W when you're hitting each
other back and forth, there's a WW reference. Ben hates,
but I don't hate. You're right, he dislikes it. They're
better work for Just like I.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Know, I'm not allocating band within the WWE.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Hey, I allocate band with the altics I'm interested in,
but I'm allocating it now to use my analogy for
both Ada. Ben has all of the tools and all
of the skill set isn't necessary to be a next
level NFL linebacker.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
And I'm excited to see what he's able to do.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I want to see it all. I want to see
that Mac. I want to see it at you know,
Will And I definitely want to see it at.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Sam for sure. Yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, Uh. From
I can't wait to see what he can do. Fat
boy balling out for very You guys don't remember fat boy?
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I mean, look, he's a legacy player for the University
of Utah.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Okay, it's a big time.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You got him, Like it is a big deal when
you get him. Look when when Utah was able to
receive the talents of John Henry Daily that that one hurt.
That one hurt, it did, Chuck. You know these young
men that grow up in BYU families and end up
(35:53):
at their their their their rival school. It hurts it
does the family. And I remember having discussions with the
Richie family when Utah, you know, Senate Ritchie a starting
you know, when I'm talking about like I'm very I'm
friends with the Richies, all the all the Richies, okay,
(36:13):
and like Utah came in and offered and loved him
and and BYU was late to the party and just
didn't recruit them well, and and then it got late
and and it's just it was a it was a
painful process for those that know the Richie family, like
Ah Man b A, you just missed out. They just
missed out. And there was other elements apart from like
(36:33):
not being early, not recruiting well. But that was a
big part of it. Early on, you're not in your
head ap because you know, you know, you went to
Loan I went to Loan Peak.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
I was.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I was there at this ceremony.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I was like, everyone was cheering because you want to
support the guy, but a lot of us, in the
back of our heart.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
We're going, dang it, man, dang like b Yu could have.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Had this guy all they had to do.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's like it's like and I and I know, like
I went to classes with John had daily as well,
like he was a BYU guy.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Like all growing up BYU sweatshirt to class every day,
he was a BYU guy yep, no.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Doubt about it. Eph from Asciata had offers from Bau
USCU to Sandygo State, Tennessee, and Wisconsin, amongst others, so
a very healthy offer sheet. The fact that he ended
up at BYU and he didn't go to Utah is
massive and he's gonna be very good for the Kougs
as long as you're staying healthy. Okay, watch out for Epher.
Let's go to break guys. Uh, let's get into it.
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were always talking about metrics. We're always this using things
(39:02):
of numeric value. Okay, I want to get into a
message from Brian Santiago, your athletic director. Now, my guy
Bret just transcribed this. This was a message about two
days ago that was dropped by the Boau Athletic department.
Brian Santiago is your your leader. He's a fearless leader.
(39:23):
He's the face of the Boa Athletic department. Okay, so
he's your guy that's gonna his vision, speaking of visions,
is gonna lead you either a glory victory or two
trials and tribulation and many ls the wilderness, the wilderness.
So this is what Biesot had to say. There's never
been a better time to be a part of Brigham
(39:45):
Young University to Boa Athletics right now. The idea that
we can compete at the very highest level and do
it the right way is inspiring for all of us.
We need you, we need your family, we need your friends,
we need everybody to go all in because we're all in.
Every single one of us in this athletic department is
(40:07):
united in carrying out the mission of this great institution.
And while we're doing it, not only are we going
to do it with enthusiasm, We're going to find find
joy in the journey. I was actually at ef y
w enjoying the journey was the mantra as a side
note throwback two thousand I think it was or ninety nine.
(40:28):
We got a thunderstorm brewing outside. By the way, stay
safe out there. These are the greatest times of our life.
Brian's Santiago states, it's the greatest time to be alive.
And everyone in Kugarnation just remember we were born to win.
Let's go love it, Cougar alumnus, It's time Kugarnation is alive.
(40:54):
And you need and need and we need you now
more than ever to join Coach Satake, our incredible staff
and our incredible players as we climb to the top
of the mountain in college football. Lets go. So when
I say when he says all in, Okay, and I
(41:17):
know this isn't new numeric, but we're talking about stats here. Okay.
What does all end mean? Well, it means that there
is a financial investment within athletics. Of course, you've got
to be able to booy up the organizational design that
you're bringing, and you also want to be able to
acquire the highest level talent within our faith within even
outside of the faith too. But like, look, most of
(41:39):
the employees there at b YU, I'm pretty sure like
an athletic tourny is how many non LDS people are
in the athletic department an ely? How many? I mean,
you know, comparatively speaking, you know what I mean, like
many of them.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Well, now with the changes that you've had of associate
directors now, so diog Taylor, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna make
me really think in my brain.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
I'm really gonna have to think of where I'll get
back to that.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
But I know, but you're attracting not only the best LDS,
but the non elias talent too, as coaches, as personality
uh and and individuals that can booy you up your
athletic department. And you're paying them what I would deem
the honest in fairness, in fairness in your dealing with
your fellow man, a fair market rate. Many people when
(42:22):
they when they go through when they're looking at BYU's
athletic department, and it is partition. Andrew and I have
talked about this. They get to eat what they kill
their self sustaining. They don't take any fees, they don't
take any ties. They don't take any fast offerings from
the athletic department Okay they're not doing that, or sorry,
from the university or the church. Okay, this is all
self sustaining. They get to eat what they kill, what
(42:43):
they bring in with TV revenue, concessions, licensing, apparel, all
that stuff that's they get to even to go corporate sponsorships,
et cetera. So you know they're they're doing it in
a way that is self sustaining and being all in
means doing it the right way as well. Though, he
(43:04):
mentions that the haters will always say BYU is doing
everything that it takes, and they're infringing on rules regulations,
they're more moral integrity by doing such by spending allowing
the the the Royal Blue Collective to spend money on
their athletes in NIL They're gonna always call you out.
(43:28):
There's gonna be muckbreakers, there's gonna be antis, b Yu
and Latter Day Saints antis. So when you see this vision,
when you hear it articulated, when you hear from Brian Santiago,
what's your reaction, guys, what's your level of optimism? You know,
how you feeling about by Athletics, knowing that there are
haters out there that are gonna do any bad like
(43:50):
any reason. They're gonna try to poke holes in it, obviously,
but you know, this is a great rallying cry to
all that are cougar of the Cougar.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
And if you haven't watched the video, you're only getting
half the rallying cot cry. When I watched it, as
I was transcribing, I just thought, Man, I want to
run to a brick wall with Brian Santiago right now.
I want to run out onto the field at Lavelle
Edwards Stadium. The other part of me when he when
he says this, and when he says we need you
now more than ever to join coach to hockey.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
That also felt like a hey, I know you.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Guys think that I'm a basketball guy, but I'm just
so you know this, another little, just little chip in
their I'm a football guy.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
We're all about football.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
Here at by U because they are.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, it's cool, Brian Santiago.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
This is gonna be his first full season as athletic director,
the first time on the calendar. So get out ahead
of it, get fans motivated, put your face on it again.
The video was super hype, super inspirational, and I do
love that he addresses early on we can compete at
(44:57):
the very highest level and do it the right way.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
It's a constant theme when you talk about BYU Athletics.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
We talked about it ad nauseum when it came to
Rod Wright and aj Debansa and Yegor demon Like. BYU
is not saying you should take a pay cut to
come here, because we offer faith in the Gospel, so like,
you're not gonna get paid, but you're gonna have a great, enthusiastic,
spiritual time.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
No, guess what we why not both?
Speaker 6 (45:26):
How about we pay people their market rate because we're
gonna compete because we're a great athletic department and we
do great things. But also on top of all of that,
you are gonna get an experience here and being supported
in your faith, in your higher aspirations beyond athletics, all
of those things.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
You will be supported uplifted in.
Speaker 6 (45:48):
And this was an incredible way for Brian Santiago to
kick off his first full athletics season with a nod
to the football program.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
There at the end, I got a different staff for you,
Ben I don't want to chain topic too.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Oh, you're good, But I was doing some number day
to everything, and I put some things together, right because
they're talking about opening wins, right, opening day, Baseball, opening
league week zero, whatever you want to look at it, right.
So Kloney Sataki, obviously this will be his you know,
his tenth season, right, So this is his tenth game
twy sixteen to twenty twenty four, while we had he's
(46:21):
eight and one in opening games. Nice, do we know
what the one lost was? I'm pretty sure we are
one hundred percent you know what it is. So we
won't say you was on a mission, so we won't
say it. It was very, very disappointing to the team
that they lost to, but they haven't lost to them
in the last two meetings.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
We all know who it is now.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
But they played Arizona been they played a lot of airs,
and they played Arizona three times open up the season.
Actually first one was an eighteen to sixteen win twenty three.
Then you know your Portland State twenty to six. That
was the four to nine year at then you go
twenty eight three against it. The loss of Utah Navy
COVID year fifty five three, Arizona twenty four to sixteen,
fifty to twenty one against UCF when you smack Gary
(46:59):
bo Hennon said, come join the brighter side, Sam Houston
fourteen zero. Then last year we know South Illinois forty
one to thirteen. So they're gonna Klanie's gonna be nine
to one bin when it's all said and done Saturday.
But the question is what will the margin be? Because
the margin for the first it gets it goes up,
(47:19):
it goes down, up, down, up, down, up down up.
So with the trends of when Kline's had a game,
that's how it is, and the winning margins of like
it's gone down the opponent's been formidable, will the margin
be more than you know, will it drop below twenty eight?
Speaker 4 (47:35):
And if it's gonna be above twenty eight, what will
it be?
Speaker 7 (47:38):
I think without question it's gonna be above twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
No, that's gonna be a like Honestly, if BYU wants to,
they could just have this competition, like let's see if
we can break a record for how many points.
Speaker 7 (47:50):
That's how bad I think Porland State is.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Like if if if Kilanie went the old you know,
Lavelle when they play UTEP and go eighty to nothing
like that's the level of demolition. I think they could
if they wanted to pull out the stops and just
destroy this team. Will they know that's not the way?
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Can they Can they beat the plus fifty two against
Navy what they had in the COVID year.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Will the margin be more than plus fifty two?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
What say you've been like right now? Like I said,
for me, quotas Uh is actually matching just what Tarlington did,
which is forty two zero. I'd be happy with that
with a true freshman quarterback. I do expect a shutout.
I don't care if there's a four string defense out there.
I expect shutout like I that is. That is like
(48:37):
I do not want to give up any points to
Portland st So.
Speaker 7 (48:40):
There's that allowfield goal.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
I will not have allowfield That's what you are talking about?
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Like what if they're fired up because they got shut
out lastreak?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Just like you throw dilemon in fumbles, they can't score.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
No, they can't agree.
Speaker 6 (48:55):
I'm just saying we're doing so much like I don't know,
there's just a piece of me. It feels like there
may be a little bit of bad karma coming because
there's so much. Oh yeah, Portland State, it's gonna put
up zero points, like it's almost a guarantee.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
No, No, it's not a guant I think they'll do.
Speaker 7 (49:10):
It's like Savannah State twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
It does and Savannah State was do do I think
the final score was like, sixty six is bad?
Speaker 8 (49:19):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (49:20):
Hey, that's what I'm saying, sixty six and not the
root sixty six. Yeah, anyway, I love statman I brought
Kalani is eight.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I mean the spread right now, you know per Vegas.
I think it's depending on which book you're looking at,
thirty five and a half to forty three and a half.
I don't know what the official number is.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Some they get forty two they cover if they do
what tilted did they cover in spread?
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I mean you're pretty close to it. I mean technically
they I think it was uh. I think the introductory
spread was thirty five and a half thirty four and
a half. It may be higher than that now, especially
as the vikings are coming off for forty two as
you were lost to Charlaton. But but forty two and
a half or something like that. Yeah, you may be
seeing that right now, you definitely maybe yeah, Oh my gosh, no,
(50:01):
So I'm looking at so I'm looking at Action Sports
Network forty four and a half.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (50:06):
So does does by you cover? Is the question?
Speaker 7 (50:11):
You know, because you have to if you want, if
they want to, they will.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Okay, I'll say this, I'll be reasonable with you, guys.
I'll back down.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Good teams win, great teams cover.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Good team win, great team to cover. So how about this?
You get fifty?
Speaker 8 (50:23):
All?
Speaker 4 (50:24):
All as well? You got eight more points than Tarlant two.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
I don't think they'll have fifty. And then it's not
because they can't. I just don't think Kilani wants to. Like,
that's just not so my question.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
So my question if if it's forty two to nothing
and a half time you just run the ball the
whole second.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
You can't do I remember it's gonna be half McKay hills,
did can still come in and score points on Portland State?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (50:45):
Can I? Hey?
Speaker 7 (50:46):
Ben Christen Borgay can do that?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Ben?
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Can I Can I throw in the thing? Hey?
Speaker 5 (50:49):
We know we talk about you got to go make plays.
If you're mckayn, you get in the game audible and
they tell you run the ball, rout hot route, hot
route loaded?
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Do you remember you remember it?
Speaker 5 (51:05):
I know we're in a tanger right now, but all
connects because they're talking about stats and numbers. Remember the
game where it was Ryan Rico and Austin Riggs faked
it and they ran in.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
Kilanie was not happy.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
He came down to sideline and grab both of them, like,
what if you just have an audible like that?
Speaker 4 (51:21):
They both called it an audible.
Speaker 5 (51:22):
They it was not supposed to be a fake, was
supposed to be a punt, and they faked it and
they took it almost to the house and they had
to score.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
And Kilanie was not happy about it, not happy.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
He was so mad.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
That's probably the play that broke Kilany and made him
do this, Like Cole, we're not going to put up seven.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
But the thing is there's no one on this team.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
There's not a single quarterback on the team that will
do something like that.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
I think Michael's dead. If he to check out, he would,
I think he would. Hey, if he was that aggressive
won the job. Hey, what's that You're not even QB
two Q two?
Speaker 4 (51:55):
What you got to lose at this point?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
I think if he was that aggressive, he would have
won the job in the first place.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
Grip and rip I think is different in fall camp.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Maybe.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
I think an actual game, when you know that the
popposition is not formidable, you take that chance. Your your
defense are going against you know they're formidable.
Speaker 7 (52:10):
Maybe here's what here's what McKay would do.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
So he wouldn't audible out of a throat, but he
would make it so he runs it himself.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Just make the play anyway back to back. Why I
just wanted to bring that up.
Speaker 5 (52:19):
Klowne stat of today per Ronald the primal weaver eight
and one, eight and one will be nine to one
at the end of Saturday, no doubt will.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Be why you cover forty four and a half? Forty
four and a half, that's a question you should.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
Ask right now.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Yes, indeed, chimed in cooperation.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
I'll put that out here for people who are betting
this game, because to me that, oh yeah, it's like
a tough one.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
This is why you don't bet. This is why ben
I say, don't gamble.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Don't do it.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
Don't do it unless you're good at it, unless you
unless you've sold your soul to be as a bubb
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for all my questions and polls of the day. A
couple of things I want to delve into. Aaron declared
that LJ. Martin Chase Roberts were the MVPs on the
offense side of the ball for fall camp. It made
me think about what the expectations are for this BAU
Cougar football team from the fan base stamp, but from
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the media's standpoint. I think there is a certain segment
of the BAU football population fan population that he's convinced
that by is gonna win ten games, ten plus games. LJ.
Martin's gonna rush for one thousand, Chase Roberts gonna receive
a thousand, and bear Bachmeer's throwing for twenty five hundred
(02:34):
yards plus. So it made me think in my poll
of the day. In my mind, as I have these debates,
I wake up in the middle of the night, I'm like, oh,
that'd be a great poll today. It'd be a fan
I stay up late at night and I think about
these questions and polls that I can put out. Think
of our show as a place where, like you're out
on the golf course when you're with your boys, a
bunch of BA fans and you're just like debating random things, right,
(02:58):
just competing on these but you're also competing with your
BYU sports take. That's what we do here. At ESPN,
The Fan and Cougar Sports. So what's the most likely
statistic to be accomplished? Is it bear throwing for twenty
five hundred yards as a true freshman. That's difficult. That
ain't easy. Being cheesy, okay? Is it lj Russian for
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one thousand? It's been hard for running backs to just
stay healthy in college football in the NFL, especially f
YU Chase Roberts, NFL future NFL wide Receiver All Big
twelve preseason candidate right b a wide receiver thousand yards receiving.
That's stuff to do. That ain't easy. Dax has done
(03:43):
it right, Austin Colley has done it. Puka didn't even
do it. Phoka did not do it. So it's not
easy to do. It's not easy accomplished, or I'm gonna
give you a fourth option. BYU wins ten plus games,
what's the most likely stat to be accompass I know
there are team stats and then there are individuals ones.
(04:05):
Unless you guys want to you know, I'll welcome in
my coast. We can change it up here at the
last second. But I thought about, Hey, what's a fourth
stat we could throw in there? Ten wins, ten wins.
So stay tuned, want to get into that. We're gonna
get our question of the day as well. Apparently on
the defense side of the ball, there was a standout
per Kelly Papinga, the guy that was most productive. Apparently
(04:26):
it was E from Assata. Wow, I want to get
into that. What does that mean for Cougar football and
this Cougar defense? If E from Osiata was the most
productive player on this BAU defense throughout all of fall camp,
what does that mean for this Cougar football team? But
what does it mean for his pet? Want to know
that as well. So stay tuned, don't go anywhere. Lots
to get to keep it dialed in. We're gonna be
(04:48):
getting through traversing all of the Cougar sports content that
money can buy without further ado. Let's fire it up
the ESPN the fans starting lineup, and I can introduce
you to my co host and the rest of the
star set of cast joining us for a wednesdaytion of
Cougar Sports. All right, I got so much talent surrounding me.
I have like a supporting cast like under bear Bachmeyer. Today,
(05:11):
let's welcome in first and foremost, our executive producer he
does a lot of things around here. Ronald the three
man Weaver. What's up, Roddy, what's up? The fans don't
have to be mad at me today. There's no Olympic sports,
there's no basketball talk.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
It is all football.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I try to get it in when it needs to
be talked about early. But guys, it's gonna be all
football for the rest of the week. So you can
be happy because BYU plays Portland State in T minus
two days. For me, I'm already locked in.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Let's get it, let's go. Let's also welcome in Brent,
always bringing the hammer on the digital content production. What's up, Brent.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
So if we are the supporting cast, like unto Bear Bachmeier.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And my Chase and your LJ, which is yeah, I'll
take LJ.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I I'm a little I'll take the brother the brother tattle.
I like to be in fact, I like physical contact
a lot. I like the bully people him over on
maybe five six, but I'm stout. I'll take that.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah, Chase and I have some similarities. Absolutely, the first
guy in Last Guy Out, your lunch pale type guy.
I like that, almost as tall as Chase Roberts. We
got some similarities for sure, great comp.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I love it. Let's also welcome in a p Andrew Peterson, Andrew,
howck are you buddy?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Doing pretty good? I guess I'm the part that is
just happy to be here.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Cody, Cody Hagan, he's young, Carson, Ryan, you have big time? Yeah, baby,
because you know maybe Vick is Carson a tight end. Vic,
well you know that, and then yeah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Codygan, I have.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
I did have some speed at one point in time.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I I have a take that's not been discussed yet,
but it's just a little kind of side tangent to me.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Aaron Roderick has.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Found two personalities at quarterback that he really loves and
he's just replicating them. He loved Zach Wilson at the
podium and Jake Retzlaff was the second coming at the podium,
not production wise, let's just let's put that out there.
And then he loved Jaron Hall and Bear Backmeyer just
reminds me a lot of the way. And then that
Jaren Hall spoke at the podium. The vibe is similar. Obviously,
(07:10):
Bear's a little bit more laid back. Jared was a
very serious guy, but the vibe is kind of it's
very similar. And then Ryder Lions again in that Jake
ritz Lab Zach Wilson type of just approach, attitude in.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Your face, not going to back down, Gunn's talk.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Yeah, it's just kind of funny to me.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's like it's they're just starting to repeat, you know,
the personalities at the podium.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, I think that's an interesting commentary. Look, if you
look at the each quarterback under the Aaron Roderick tenure,
you do have to include Tanner Mangham in that because
he did start as the starting quarterback in twenty eighteen
before he was ousted by Zack Wilson, and you have
to wonder why he was ousted. You know, I wish
they would have probably employed a different scheme to start
(07:52):
the season rather than Matt Canada offense. They ended up
going kind of gun rpo in the second half of
the season with Zack Wilson, Tanner, Zach, Jaren Keton Okay,
and and then Jake and now it's it's a Bear's team.
So those are your starting quarterbacks under Aaron Roddick. And
what's interesting is like, yeah, there's probably some similarities, but
(08:13):
there's also a lot of differences between all these guys.
One common thing you will see, though, that A Rodd
does love is the dual threat ability. He wants to
run the quarterback. I think he I think he should
have probably run Keaton a little bit more. I think
even though he's more of a pro stout quarterback, I
think he's shown an ability now to run. He ran
a four or five laser like he's got the clay.
(08:35):
We probably should have ran him a little bit more.
He just he's not as shifty, he's not as elusive.
There's elusivity and then the speed. But a Rod loves
to run his quarterbacks and he will continue to run
his quarterbacks. Personality wise, you have Jared who's a little
bit more reserved, as well as Bear Kidton. I don't
think was overly like well Kidon was probably in the
middle of the ground guy, right.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It was just kind of a professional, you know, I've
been there before type of.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
When he was at pitch, he did say he dropped
like an F bomb though before a rivalry game. I
want to say, you remember that. I don't know if
you saw that go viral anyways, So he's got a
little piss and vinegar in him. Zach had a little
bit like we were talking about Jim McMahon swagger to
him without the honor code violations, right like anyway, and
and so yeah, there's a diverse skill set, diverse background,
(09:22):
and but some similar skill sets as well. So I
can't wait. And and by the way, this was a
statu of the day of Kippo, like last week, the
last three quarterbacks that have started for by you all
not members of the Church of Jesus Christ, the Lottery Saints. Man,
that's crazy. I mean at A at A B y B.
Why everyone thinks outside of BYU that only Mormons go
(09:45):
to the school. So I do think it's interesting that
your face typically of the program, which is your quarterback,
has not been a member of the Church's christiatter of Saints.
So I think King Slovas, you could say, from a
genealogical standpoint with the name last name Slovas, he's got.
I think he's Christian. But I mean his family, in
generous to pass was Jewish, Jake rest left Jewish and
(10:07):
now you have a Catholic leading heart of Glorian victory
in bear Bachmeyer. So a little fun fact of the
day as we start off the show. Check out the
rest of our ESPN the Fans starting lineup. Darnell Dixon,
Double D of The Daily Hero will join us for
a Cougar Bean at three oh five. Logan Latouwei addressed
the media yesterday. We'll get into a player profile. What
does he see from this BYU defensive line? Four oh five,
we'll get into some Josh Pate sound pat state his
(10:30):
college football Insider segment. He discusses rivalry games, their names
that are going away. We'll get into the Holy War,
what that means with the Holy War and whether or
not Utah and Bay you like the name Holy War?
Four point thirty. J Hill addressed the media yesterday. What
does he feel about his defense? What's up with the
cornerback room? Does he like the depth there and across
(10:52):
his defense? At five o' five, Hank Bachmeyer, the big
brother of Bear and Tiger, will join us. We'll get
to know Tiger and Bear a little bit better. At
five oh five, stay tuned, don't go anywhere, and then
at five point thirty, a little keeping up of the Cougars.
Riley Nelson, the Lusher's air Lefty, get his thoughts on
this Bay Cougar football team and how good they can be.
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MVP awards during the Coordinator's Corner yesterday with Greg Rebel.
Let's listen to the soundbites who is it and why,
and then we'll get it into our poll of the day.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Well, LJ, I mean, he's a standout. He's always been
a good player, but you can just see that he's
taking his game to another level this year. He's starting
with just what great shape he's in. You know, he
he lost some weight, he trimmed up and he's still uh,
you know, looks great out there. And he's I would
say he's he's faster than he's ever been and he's
(13:11):
just playing fast. You can tell the games really slowed
down for him because he's played so much football. And
then Chase as well. I think Chase is kind of
taking his game another level too.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
He did.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
Those two guys have just played so much football now
you can tell that there they already know they're anticipating
what's going to happen, you know, pre snap and and
just kind of one step ahead of the opponent.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Mm hm, m VP, Chase Roberts MVP. And it's not
a surprise, it's maybe what we all suspected. But but
LJ is different this year. Is Chase really that different?
Has Chase really taken a big jump in his athleticism
(13:57):
like unto l J? Mart I would say Chase is
healthy now, which is good, right, Remember he got injured
in the Bowl game and he's probably a little bit
more refined in his route running. Maybe he's a little
bit more physical. I haven't seen necessarily like an increased
person and increase athleticis I haven't seen necessarily like this
next level yet. I want to see it. I want
(14:18):
to see it like I haven't seen a fall camp.
I will say LJ has been transformed. He is an Adonis.
He is big as strong as fast. You know, Lj's
always been big and he's been quick, and he's got
good vision and he's a good catcher of the football.
Now he's added an additional layer to his game, which
(14:38):
is top end speed and second level, second and third
level defenders are gonna meet that speed and they better
take proper angles because if you don't, LJ could be
housing it. So I would actually lean towards LJB and
the MVP of Fall Camp. And I'm not trying to
like undermine a Rod by any means, but LJ I
(15:00):
think is a dude. I think he's a guy we
just gotta keep. Hopefully, I'm just fingers crossed he stays
healthy as he does begin to get into that twenty
twenty five touches through the ground and the round game
and the receiving game while also being a part of
pass pro et cetera. That's a lot of wear and
tear on the body. Can he withstand the vicissitudes of
(15:22):
a college football season? So I don't think anyone's gonna
argue with the MVP awards. Is there anyone else that
would have been in the running? Do you think, guys,
is anybody that you thought should have been in the running? Ronnie?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I mean, if you want to really get into it,
like maybe you throw Carson Ryan in there, you know,
maybe you do, like I think that's a guy that
you like, you just can't look at see none of
your head been like this guy, at least in medium
what we saw every time we showed up, we saw
this man catching passes.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Bear McKay trace and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I saw him catch I think a touchdown pass from
all of the quarterbacks outside of Emerson Galman in that room,
and I was amazing in the most impressive catch Again.
I'll bring in the NFL reference Lamar Jackson, Mark Andrews, Mahomes,
Travis Kelsey type as tight window with you know a
certain safety won't say his name dripped all over him
and it was beautiful. Carson Ryan and AP he's been
(16:21):
declared about this and I'm backing up on this and
I'm gonna agree. He's gonna be a second leader in receiving,
with rushing, with receiving yards, it's gonna be chased. Then
it's gonna be Carson Ryan, and then the pick of
the litter after that is you want if you're Bear.
But Carsonian is a dude, He's a problem. He's reformed
his body and b y U and eeronics offense been
is about to remind people why they run the dang
(16:42):
football throw to the tight ends.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Well, I want to add another just layer to Mike
Carson Ryan hype. I think he's gonna lead the team
in third down receptions. I think he's that good, that
reliable to a new quarterback, having a tight end that
can just be your safety blanket like that, especially on
third downs.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Big body.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean, I think he's gonna be a problem for defenses,
Like Chase Roberts is gonna lead the team in receptions
and yards, but in terms of crucial third down receptions,
I think your go to guy is probably Carson Ryan,
followed by a Chase Roberts.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So I'm gonna shift a little bit with my polar
the day. I'm gonna include Carson because I agree with
Ronnie that was that that individual needed to be included
in the MVP for the offense in fall camp, and
I feel bad for my offensive lineman. You know, shout
out to Andrew Gentry and Isaia Johnny. You guys had
great fall camps too, and but we always gotta go
(17:42):
with our skill guys, you know what I mean. We
gotta go with our guys their dudes. But so I'm
gonna put the statistical threshold for receiving for Carson Ryan.
It can't be a thousand yards just because like there's
very few one thousand yard receivers or tight ends in
(18:02):
BYU football history. Like, I just I don't know how
often it's really happened quite on. Maybe six hundred. Yeah,
I mean Dennis Pitta in two thousand and eight had
a thousand yards receiving. Maybe David Mills Clay Brown had
had a year in nineteen eighty, right, he had a
he had a he had a freaking monster year. Gordon
(18:23):
Hudson had nine to sixty in nineteen eighty one. Gordon
Hudson had ninety nine hundred and twenty eight in nineteen
eighty two. Johnny HARLEYN and five had eight fifty three.
So you're like going down this list, You're like, Okay,
what's the threshold? Is this seven hundred? Is that what
we're looking at, like as like a monumental, like big
(18:47):
time season for a tight end seven fifty you know
what I mean? I may put it at around seven hundred.
So so I took out the win total. So LJ.
Martin thousand rusher, Chase Roberts one thousand yard receiver, Carson
Ryan say like seven hundred yards receiving. I may I
may mess around with that. Bear Bachmeier twenty five hundred
(19:12):
yards throwing, which one is most likely to occur and why?
And remember a Rod likes to distribute the ball. He's
gonna target Chase Carson, you know, and so like for
one guy to tally one thousand yards receiving, I think
is that's a big ask. That's a big ask, even
if you are the MVP of fall camp, and even
if you are the returning VET, and even even if
(19:33):
you are the projected you know, NFL draft pick coming
out of that receiver room. Which one's most likely to
occur in why?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Guys, I mean to me, I've been on the l
J hype train all summer long, all all year long.
It to me, it has to be LJ, especially with
the true freshman at QB. LJ is gonna help set
up the pass by his through his rushing threat. Teams
are gonna have to respect to his rushing ability. That's
(20:01):
gonna help set up the past. But I think he's
the foundation of the offense this year. I think he's
gonna get fed.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
The ball a lot.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
He's added a lot to the game, as you've documented.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I really think the most likely of all of those
is LJ getting a thousand yards if he's healthy all year.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, I'd agree with you. I think that's the most likely.
I would also say, I mean, someone would make the
argument that Beart Bachmeyer can can can can throw for
twenty five hundred yards. If Jake RETZLAFKTZO throw for twenty
nine hundred and be mediocre and be above average, than
Bear Bachmeyer can do it. He's a four star after all, right,
He's he's the golden child right now. And I get it.
(20:44):
I understand that that that methodology, I understand like that
that approach, et cetera. But I think you're right. I
think LJ is the guy. LJ is the individual that
you look towards as the bell cow watching him, You're
seeing what he's done last season, the year before, and
(21:05):
you're like, this is his time, this is his year.
He won't be stopped, this is his this He's the
next Tyler hows year. He's the next Jamal Williams, He's
the next Harvey Una, He's the next Luke Staley. I mean,
we got a couple all those guys together as former
BYU greats. I know Luke was a dog Walker Ward winner,
but all those other three running backs had have had,
(21:27):
you know, better, NFL careers because they were able to
stay healthier. Best ability is always your availability. Remember that.
So there are some though that would make a strong
argument for Carson Ryan. In all of our media availabilities,
Carson Ryan was consistently targeted time and time again, time
(21:48):
and time again, like he made plays every single practice.
When we're talking about safety valves, is Chase really a
safety valve or is he an outside wide receiver. Typically
a safety valve is an individual that's lined up as
an inline tight end or a flex tight end. Sometimes
(22:10):
you get a safety valve at running back. Wide receivers
are not necessarily always labeled as a safety valve. I
guess if you're Calvin Johnson and you're six to six
and you're built like a tight end, you run a
four to three and the quarterback Stafford can just throw
it up to you all the time, you're gonna come
down with it. Yeah, I guess. I guess you're a
safety valve. But more often than not, it's not a
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wide receiver. So I think there's an argument actually for
Carson Ryan to eclipse seven seven hundred yards receiving. Now,
he hasn't done it yet in his career, but you want,
you know, if we're gonna have him on the field
all the time, he's in every down tight end. Last
time BYU had an every down tight end was who
(23:01):
Isaac Rex?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Before that, Matt Bushman, the.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Gazelle, they call them the Elk Isaac Rex. And what's interesting,
and maybe we're going too high on that threshold of
seven hundred dards. We may have to say, like five
hundred twenty twenty Isaac Rex had four to twenty nine
yards and thirty seven receptions in twelve touchdowns. That was
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twenty and twenty, So I may have to modify this.
I was kind of looking at the data and like saying, like,
what's an equivalency for a tight end? And it may
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If from Asciata is a very intriguing study to me, Okay,
I want to play this. Uh Kelly papinga sound. How
do you get the best eleven on the football field.
It's hard, especially when you have so much depth. Like
you ask for depth, you ask for quality of players,
but then you have to put him in his backups
(26:35):
and then you gotta implement him into and and create
opportunities for now. J Hill, the J. J. Hill said, Hey,
we're gonna employ our our second stringers all the time.
It doesn't matter that it's Portland State this week. Like
they're gonna play a lot, we're gonna we're always gonna
rotate that we're gonna create development there. So let's listen
(26:56):
in as Kelly Pepinga discussed who the most impactful player
was during camp. From his perspective, he's.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Kind of in the same mold as like Lasker and
Jack Kelly, where you'll you'll see him a backer sometimes
sometimes you'll seem a defensive end. So it's a little
hybrid position that our guys play. They go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Because he's a little smaller than typical.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, man, he had he was the most productive
player throughout all fall camps. So we do a production
board and he came out as number one as fall
camp in. It's so very productive throughout Fall camp. And
he's a he's a football player, so you'll see him.
He'll be all over the phild. I promise you that
he's a guy that Career Nation wants to make sure
they keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I promise you that he will be all over the
football field. He'll line up at the second level, he'll
line up at the first level, right along the line
of scrimmage. I'll tell you what I was trying to
track this video down. His dad former you doh great
NFL VET put a little mixtape together from Falk Camp
(28:02):
for uh for his boy Ephraim fat Boy as they
call him, that's his nickname. Guys, this kid is so
explosive violence, so violent, Like I mean even last year,
like going through like one on ones. He's completely undersized.
(28:23):
He's probably sitting at like one ninety five two hundred pounds.
He's going against Yeah young tackles at BYU. But there
they're all one hundred pounds more than him, and he's
putting them on their backs. So just imagine eventually e
from Mociata getting to two hundred and forty pounds two
hun thirty pounds. Shoot even at two twenty. He's only
at two ten right now, This dude is going.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
To be.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
A beast.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
He's gonna be a monster. Love watching. I mean, he's
so fast too. There was one play McHale sits fast, right,
would we all agree? Mchahill sets pretty fast. He can scoot.
You know, he ran like a ten nine in high school,
was probably gonna run a ten to seven dual threat quarterback.
He's nifty, he's quick, he's fast. I mean McKay took
(29:08):
a keeper off the edge and granted, Ephraim's got an
angle coming inside out, but this dude track. This is
one of the This is one of the highlights I
think from the defense in one of the fall camp
scrimmages at Lavell Edwards Stadium. You can go back and
you can see it in the highlights that BAU social
(29:29):
media team posted. Ephrom tracked down McKay with with relative ease,
tagged him off to the field side. It wasn't to
the boundary side. It wasn't to the short side of
the fields, to the field side. He's got some galley,
he got some scooped to him. But how do you
employ him? Where do you put him? He's listed behind
Isaiah Glasker. Does that mean he's only going to play
(29:50):
that position? Probably not. Piggybacking off of you know, a
depth chart conversation we were having off the air. You know, well,
the depth chart is what it is. You can say
the sid puts it together. You can say that the
coaches put it together. It's probably a little conglomeration of
both with some feedback from both. I would imagine Ephram
(30:13):
has been cross trained also to play behind Jack Kelly.
He's going to be similar to Jack Kelly. You heard
K Pop mentioned Isaiah is a different player to that
of Jack, but he's got some similar qualities as well.
You can move these guys around. Ephraim's going to be,
(30:33):
I believe, one of the standouts of the defense in
some of these high profile games. He's that good. I
think they're gonna get him involved in the PAS rushing. Now,
Jack Kelly's the best pass rusher, but I don't think
think Ephram Isaiah, are that far off from from Jack? Well,
they're a little bit, but not not as far.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's not as stupid as a drop as you may think.
Ephram is a guy that must see the field dish year.
And you hear it in Kelly's voice, you know, like
when you're when you're excited.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Go back and listen, sound like crusty.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Hey, go back and listen to Let's play it again
so you can hear it. Okay, it's like a giggle.
It's an excited game. Let's play Kelly, but again talking
about Eata.
Speaker 9 (31:25):
And uh Jack Kelly where you'll you'll see him a
backer sometimes sometimes you'll seem a defensive end. So it's
a little hybrid position that our guys play. They go
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Because he's a little smaller than typical.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Yeah, yeah, man, he had he was the most productive
player throughout all Fall camps. So we do a production
board and he came out as number one as Fall campaign.
It's so very productive throughout Fall camp. And he's a
he's a football player, so you'll see him. He'll be
all over the field. I promise you that he's a
guy that career Nation wants to make sure they keep
an eye.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I promise you that that's called like when a coach
does that. Like he was even keeled throughout it all right, Stow,
He's like, hey, he's a good football. He's gonna be
all over the field. I promise you that that's excitement.
You don't hear it all the time from coaches and
(32:12):
K Pop loves him for me from Asiata, he's got
a lot of good players. He's at has in his
repertoire right now, in his wardrobe right and he's uh
in in his group of oh we use and in linebackers.
But he's gonna see the field a lot from Asiata.
How do you guys feel about that? How do you
employe from Asiata? How do you utilize his talents his abilities?
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well, it's like you said, I think he's very versatile
and that he can play multiple positions at linebacker. I
think from from what it sounds like, he's played well
enough to essentially be the guy that comes in of
relief of almost any of the linebackers if they need
a break, if they're if they're a little bit gassed
after a after a driver, after a sequence of plays,
(32:56):
has send Ephraman give him a little break, and he
can do that for all almost any of the linebacker positions,
which I think is a it's it's a valuable thing
as a player.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
If you can do that, that is crucial for the
development I think.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I think the thing that that that h Kelly pepingas
just locking his chops at here is hey, we've got
We've got maybe the future of the lineback after after
a Jack Kellyan and Isaiah glaskerly because those are tremendous talents.
He's going, yeah, we can we can repeat that with Eframaciata.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I would love to see it.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Ronnie your thoughts, Yeah, you're gonna get maximized potential with
all those any smart DC which Jaala is very smart.
He knows how to develop talent. He knows how to
develop his skill set. You know the strains obviously. I
mean when you're playing and correct me if I'm wrong. Right,
he's playing the will linebacker position, right, Ben Well.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I think he's been cross trained and all of them, yes,
between Sam and the weak side outside linebracker position.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
As well, so he's been training all of them.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
But if he's playing the will one, right, I mean
he we know he could do the run defense, stopping
the in the BN, the C gap, He's gonna bring
pressure down in that regard Ben, he can move sideline,
the sideline and his speed and his coverage ability. I
mean he's a natural fit of hike and float to
the football like he's gonna chase you down in the
flat in zones, you don't want to come this way.
If you come forty four his way, he's gonna make
(34:18):
your pay. It's just that simple when you go look
at the tape, when you look at how violent and
physical he is. And to be honest, I don't want
to You know how I feel about Jack and I G.
You know how I feel about them. I know what
they can give me. I want to see this kid.
I want to see he's able to do with this
position because I know what seventeen and sixteen are gonna
give me.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Boom, you know, bringing PB.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
And J whatever they want to call themselves, ying Yang,
bringing the boom however you want to see it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
But what is it? A boom bang?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
As they say in w W when you're hitting each
other back and forth, there's a WW reference. Ben hates,
but I don't hate. You're right, he dislikes it. They're
better work for Just like I.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Know, I'm not allocating band within the WWE.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Hey, I allocate band with the altics I'm interested in,
but I'm allocating it now to use my analogy for
both Ada. Ben has all of the tools and all
of the skill set isn't necessary to be a next
level NFL linebacker.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
And I'm excited to see what he's able to do.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I want to see it all. I want to see
that Mac. I want to see it at you know,
Will And I definitely want to see it at.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Sam for sure. Yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, Uh. From
I can't wait to see what he can do. Fat
boy balling out for very You guys don't remember fat boy?
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I mean, look, he's a legacy player for the University
of Utah.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Okay, it's a big time.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You got him, Like it is a big deal when
you get him. Look when when Utah was able to
receive the talents of John Henry Daily that that one hurt.
That one hurt, it did, Chuck. You know these young
men that grow up in BYU families and end up
(35:53):
at their their their their rival school. It hurts it
does the family. And I remember having discussions with the
Richie family when Utah, you know, Senate Ritchie a starting
you know, when I'm talking about like I'm very I'm
friends with the Richies, all the all the Richies, okay,
(36:13):
and like Utah came in and offered and loved him
and and BYU was late to the party and just
didn't recruit them well, and and then it got late
and and it's just it was a it was a
painful process for those that know the Richie family, like
Ah Man b A, you just missed out. They just
missed out. And there was other elements apart from like
(36:33):
not being early, not recruiting well. But that was a
big part of it. Early on, you're not in your
head ap because you know, you know, you went to
Loan I went to Loan Peak.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
I was.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I was there at this ceremony.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I was like, everyone was cheering because you want to
support the guy, but a lot of us, in the
back of our heart.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
We're going, dang it, man, dang like b Yu could have.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Had this guy all they had to do.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's like it's like and I and I know, like
I went to classes with John had daily as well,
like he was a BYU guy.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Like all growing up BYU sweatshirt to class every day,
he was a BYU guy yep, no.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Doubt about it. Eph from Asciata had offers from Bau
USCU to Sandygo State, Tennessee, and Wisconsin, amongst others, so
a very healthy offer sheet. The fact that he ended
up at BYU and he didn't go to Utah is
massive and he's gonna be very good for the Kougs
as long as you're staying healthy. Okay, watch out for Epher.
Let's go to break guys. Uh, let's get into it.
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were always talking about metrics. We're always this using things
(39:02):
of numeric value. Okay, I want to get into a
message from Brian Santiago, your athletic director. Now, my guy
Bret just transcribed this. This was a message about two
days ago that was dropped by the Boau Athletic department.
Brian Santiago is your your leader. He's a fearless leader.
(39:23):
He's the face of the Boa Athletic department. Okay, so
he's your guy that's gonna his vision, speaking of visions,
is gonna lead you either a glory victory or two
trials and tribulation and many ls the wilderness, the wilderness.
So this is what Biesot had to say. There's never
been a better time to be a part of Brigham
(39:45):
Young University to Boa Athletics right now. The idea that
we can compete at the very highest level and do
it the right way is inspiring for all of us.
We need you, we need your family, we need your friends,
we need everybody to go all in because we're all in.
Every single one of us in this athletic department is
(40:07):
united in carrying out the mission of this great institution.
And while we're doing it, not only are we going
to do it with enthusiasm, We're going to find find
joy in the journey. I was actually at ef y
w enjoying the journey was the mantra as a side
note throwback two thousand I think it was or ninety nine.
(40:28):
We got a thunderstorm brewing outside. By the way, stay
safe out there. These are the greatest times of our life.
Brian's Santiago states, it's the greatest time to be alive.
And everyone in Kugarnation just remember we were born to win.
Let's go love it, Cougar alumnus, It's time Kugarnation is alive.
(40:54):
And you need and need and we need you now
more than ever to join Coach Satake, our incredible staff
and our incredible players as we climb to the top
of the mountain in college football. Lets go. So when
I say when he says all in, Okay, and I
(41:17):
know this isn't new numeric, but we're talking about stats here. Okay.
What does all end mean? Well, it means that there
is a financial investment within athletics. Of course, you've got
to be able to booy up the organizational design that
you're bringing, and you also want to be able to
acquire the highest level talent within our faith within even
outside of the faith too. But like, look, most of
(41:39):
the employees there at b YU, I'm pretty sure like
an athletic tourny is how many non LDS people are
in the athletic department an ely? How many? I mean,
you know, comparatively speaking, you know what I mean, like
many of them.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Well, now with the changes that you've had of associate
directors now, so diog Taylor, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna make
me really think in my brain.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
I'm really gonna have to think of where I'll get
back to that.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
But I know, but you're attracting not only the best LDS,
but the non elias talent too, as coaches, as personality
uh and and individuals that can booy you up your
athletic department. And you're paying them what I would deem
the honest in fairness, in fairness in your dealing with
your fellow man, a fair market rate. Many people when
(42:22):
they when they go through when they're looking at BYU's
athletic department, and it is partition. Andrew and I have
talked about this. They get to eat what they kill
their self sustaining. They don't take any fees, they don't
take any ties. They don't take any fast offerings from
the athletic department Okay they're not doing that, or sorry,
from the university or the church. Okay, this is all
self sustaining. They get to eat what they kill, what
(42:43):
they bring in with TV revenue, concessions, licensing, apparel, all
that stuff that's they get to even to go corporate sponsorships,
et cetera. So you know they're they're doing it in
a way that is self sustaining and being all in
means doing it the right way as well. Though, he
(43:04):
mentions that the haters will always say BYU is doing
everything that it takes, and they're infringing on rules regulations,
they're more moral integrity by doing such by spending allowing
the the the Royal Blue Collective to spend money on
their athletes in NIL They're gonna always call you out.
(43:28):
There's gonna be muckbreakers, there's gonna be antis, b Yu
and Latter Day Saints antis. So when you see this vision,
when you hear it articulated, when you hear from Brian Santiago,
what's your reaction, guys, what's your level of optimism? You know,
how you feeling about by Athletics, knowing that there are
haters out there that are gonna do any bad like
(43:50):
any reason. They're gonna try to poke holes in it, obviously,
but you know, this is a great rallying cry to
all that are cougar of the Cougar.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
And if you haven't watched the video, you're only getting
half the rallying cot cry. When I watched it, as
I was transcribing, I just thought, Man, I want to
run to a brick wall with Brian Santiago right now.
I want to run out onto the field at Lavelle
Edwards Stadium. The other part of me when he when
he says this, and when he says we need you
now more than ever to join coach to hockey.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
That also felt like a hey, I know you.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Guys think that I'm a basketball guy, but I'm just
so you know this, another little, just little chip in
their I'm a football guy.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
We're all about football.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
Here at by U because they are.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, it's cool, Brian Santiago.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
This is gonna be his first full season as athletic director,
the first time on the calendar. So get out ahead
of it, get fans motivated, put your face on it again.
The video was super hype, super inspirational, and I do
love that he addresses early on we can compete at
(44:57):
the very highest level and do it the right way.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
It's a constant theme when you talk about BYU Athletics.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
We talked about it ad nauseum when it came to
Rod Wright and aj Debansa and Yegor demon Like. BYU
is not saying you should take a pay cut to
come here, because we offer faith in the Gospel, so like,
you're not gonna get paid, but you're gonna have a great, enthusiastic,
spiritual time.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
No, guess what we why not both?
Speaker 6 (45:26):
How about we pay people their market rate because we're
gonna compete because we're a great athletic department and we
do great things. But also on top of all of that,
you are gonna get an experience here and being supported
in your faith, in your higher aspirations beyond athletics, all
of those things.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
You will be supported uplifted in.
Speaker 6 (45:48):
And this was an incredible way for Brian Santiago to
kick off his first full athletics season with a nod
to the football program.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
There at the end, I got a different staff for you,
Ben I don't want to chain topic too.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Oh, you're good, But I was doing some number day
to everything, and I put some things together, right because
they're talking about opening wins, right, opening day, Baseball, opening
league week zero, whatever you want to look at it, right.
So Kloney Sataki, obviously this will be his you know,
his tenth season, right, So this is his tenth game
twy sixteen to twenty twenty four, while we had he's
(46:21):
eight and one in opening games. Nice, do we know
what the one lost was? I'm pretty sure we are
one hundred percent you know what it is. So we
won't say you was on a mission, so we won't
say it. It was very, very disappointing to the team
that they lost to, but they haven't lost to them
in the last two meetings.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
We all know who it is now.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
But they played Arizona been they played a lot of airs,
and they played Arizona three times open up the season.
Actually first one was an eighteen to sixteen win twenty three.
Then you know your Portland State twenty to six. That
was the four to nine year at then you go
twenty eight three against it. The loss of Utah Navy
COVID year fifty five three, Arizona twenty four to sixteen,
fifty to twenty one against UCF when you smack Gary
(46:59):
bo Hennon said, come join the brighter side, Sam Houston
fourteen zero. Then last year we know South Illinois forty
one to thirteen. So they're gonna Klanie's gonna be nine
to one bin when it's all said and done Saturday.
But the question is what will the margin be? Because
the margin for the first it gets it goes up,
(47:19):
it goes down, up, down, up, down, up down up.
So with the trends of when Kline's had a game,
that's how it is, and the winning margins of like
it's gone down the opponent's been formidable, will the margin
be more than you know, will it drop below twenty eight?
Speaker 4 (47:35):
And if it's gonna be above twenty eight, what will
it be?
Speaker 7 (47:38):
I think without question it's gonna be above twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
No, that's gonna be a like Honestly, if BYU wants to,
they could just have this competition, like let's see if
we can break a record for how many points.
Speaker 7 (47:50):
That's how bad I think Porland State is.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Like if if if Kilanie went the old you know,
Lavelle when they play UTEP and go eighty to nothing
like that's the level of demolition. I think they could
if they wanted to pull out the stops and just
destroy this team. Will they know that's not the way?
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Can they Can they beat the plus fifty two against
Navy what they had in the COVID year.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Will the margin be more than plus fifty two?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
What say you've been like right now? Like I said,
for me, quotas Uh is actually matching just what Tarlington did,
which is forty two zero. I'd be happy with that
with a true freshman quarterback. I do expect a shutout.
I don't care if there's a four string defense out there.
I expect shutout like I that is. That is like
(48:37):
I do not want to give up any points to
Portland st So.
Speaker 7 (48:40):
There's that allowfield goal.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
I will not have allowfield That's what you are talking about?
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Like what if they're fired up because they got shut
out lastreak?
Speaker 5 (48:49):
Just like you throw dilemon in fumbles, they can't score.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
No, they can't agree.
Speaker 6 (48:55):
I'm just saying we're doing so much like I don't know,
there's just a piece of me. It feels like there
may be a little bit of bad karma coming because
there's so much. Oh yeah, Portland State, it's gonna put
up zero points, like it's almost a guarantee.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
No, No, it's not a guant I think they'll do.
Speaker 7 (49:10):
It's like Savannah State twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
It does and Savannah State was do do I think
the final score was like, sixty six is bad?
Speaker 8 (49:19):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (49:20):
Hey, that's what I'm saying, sixty six and not the
root sixty six. Yeah, anyway, I love statman I brought
Kalani is eight.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I mean the spread right now, you know per Vegas.
I think it's depending on which book you're looking at,
thirty five and a half to forty three and a half.
I don't know what the official number is.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Some they get forty two they cover if they do
what tilted did they cover in spread?
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I mean you're pretty close to it. I mean technically
they I think it was uh. I think the introductory
spread was thirty five and a half thirty four and
a half. It may be higher than that now, especially
as the vikings are coming off for forty two as
you were lost to Charlaton. But but forty two and
a half or something like that. Yeah, you may be
seeing that right now, you definitely maybe yeah, Oh my gosh, no,
(50:01):
So I'm looking at so I'm looking at Action Sports
Network forty four and a half.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
Oh wow?
Speaker 3 (50:06):
So does does by you cover? Is the question?
Speaker 7 (50:11):
You know, because you have to if you want, if
they want to, they will.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
Okay, I'll say this, I'll be reasonable with you, guys.
I'll back down.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Good teams win, great teams cover.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Good team win, great team to cover. So how about this?
You get fifty?
Speaker 8 (50:23):
All?
Speaker 4 (50:24):
All as well? You got eight more points than Tarlant two.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
I don't think they'll have fifty. And then it's not
because they can't. I just don't think Kilani wants to. Like,
that's just not so my question.
Speaker 5 (50:34):
So my question if if it's forty two to nothing
and a half time you just run the ball the
whole second.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
You can't do I remember it's gonna be half McKay hills,
did can still come in and score points on Portland State?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (50:45):
Can I? Hey?
Speaker 7 (50:46):
Ben Christen Borgay can do that?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Ben?
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Can I Can I throw in the thing? Hey?
Speaker 5 (50:49):
We know we talk about you got to go make plays.
If you're mckayn, you get in the game audible and
they tell you run the ball, rout hot route, hot
route loaded?
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Do you remember you remember it?
Speaker 5 (51:05):
I know we're in a tanger right now, but all
connects because they're talking about stats and numbers. Remember the
game where it was Ryan Rico and Austin Riggs faked
it and they ran in.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
Kilanie was not happy.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
He came down to sideline and grab both of them, like,
what if you just have an audible like that?
Speaker 4 (51:21):
They both called it an audible.
Speaker 5 (51:22):
They it was not supposed to be a fake, was
supposed to be a punt, and they faked it and
they took it almost to the house and they had
to score.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
And Kilanie was not happy about it, not happy.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
He was so mad.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
That's probably the play that broke Kilany and made him
do this, Like Cole, we're not going to put up seven.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
But the thing is there's no one on this team.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
There's not a single quarterback on the team that will
do something like that.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
I think Michael's dead. If he to check out, he would,
I think he would. Hey, if he was that aggressive
won the job. Hey, what's that You're not even QB
two Q two?
Speaker 4 (51:55):
What you got to lose at this point?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
I think if he was that aggressive, he would have
won the job in the first place.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
Grip and rip I think is different in fall camp.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Maybe.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
I think an actual game, when you know that the
popposition is not formidable, you take that chance. Your your
defense are going against you know they're formidable.
Speaker 7 (52:10):
Maybe here's what here's what McKay would do.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
So he wouldn't audible out of a throat, but he
would make it so he runs it himself.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Just make the play anyway back to back. Why I
just wanted to bring that up.
Speaker 5 (52:19):
Klowne stat of today per Ronald the primal weaver eight
and one, eight and one will be nine to one
at the end of Saturday, no doubt will.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Be why you cover forty four and a half? Forty
four and a half, that's a question you should.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
Ask right now.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Yes, indeed, chimed in cooperation.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
I'll put that out here for people who are betting
this game, because to me that, oh yeah, it's like
a tough one.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
This is why you don't bet. This is why ben
I say, don't gamble.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Don't do it.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
Don't do it unless you're good at it, unless you
unless you've sold your soul to be as a bubb
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