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the line, Dollar New Dixon.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
What's up, Double D.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I just want to congratulate everyone from making it through
the summer in the offseason without college football. We've made it.
It's going to start tomorrow night and for BYU on Saturday. Uh,
none of us went crazy or committed to felonies that
we well that maybe we know level was hit. So
it's it was a crazy, weird offseason. But we've made
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it through and now we're ready for college football. We're
ready for all the talk to go away and actual
performance on the field matters, and we'll see that soon.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Love that we survived, We survived. We're here college football kickoff.
We had Week zero, which was tremendous. It was glorious,
It was marvelousy and the pig skin being thrown around.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
There's some sloppy football as well.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Do you always expect a little bit of slip slap,
slappy joe football week one?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Week zero? For sure?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And as we look at Saturday's game by U in
Portland State, and one of the things I'm going to
be looking for is how efficient can Bay's offense be,
how error freaking to be? And we know that their
first scrimmage there were a lot of procedural type penalties
and things that they needed to take care of, so
you know, you also want to see explosiveness. You want
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to see the ability to strike hard and strike fast
and put the defense on their heels. But yeah, that
first game there's always going to be and especially in
BYU situation now where it appears the Portland State isn't
very good and so BYU will be playing third and
four stream guys. Probably by a third quarter that'll get
sloppy and that that could prove not to be quite
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as entertaining as we hope. But it's valuable to the
team to get those guys some reps and kind of
see where they are.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So, Darnell, as the Cougar football season kicks off, what
are the storylines?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Would you say?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
What are the main storylines that you're most intrigued by
as we kick off this season with the bau Cougars.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well, so, today Brandon Gerdy and I are doing what
we call a one on one where we ask BYU
questions and answer them each get a chance to answer them.
And I told him that are one on one today
is a non Bear Bachmeyer version of that one on
one because man, have we written a lot about him
and talked a lot about him. So certainly the quarterbacks
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situation and the fact boy you're starting a true freshman
in game one for the first time ever is a
huge storyline. I think that as we progressed through the
fall camp, there weren't a ton of surprises. I mean,
I think there's a few guys maybe that show up
as as you know on the depth chart, or maybe
a little lower than we thought. But it's pretty much
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the team we expected. Now we just need to see
if they perform as we think they can expect. And
I noticed somebody is saying something about that all knowing
grin that Jay Hill gets when he knows something we don't.
He likes his defense, and if that is the case,
then I think BAU is in for a pretty fun
season with the dominating defense that can play that complimentary
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football that by you coaches like to talk.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
About the weaknesses of this team, the strengths of this team,
project them for me, what do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, that's a little tough, excuse me. And we may
not know some of those until a little bit later
as b YU gets into Big twelve play because we
just don't know. I mean, obviously, Portland State didn't look
very good and their opener got be forty two to
nothing at home. Stanford didn't look very overpowering. We haven't
seen East Carolina yet, excuse me, East Carolina yet, But
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I would say if you're looking at weaknesses, it's hard.
You might say there's areas of question. I wouldn't even
call them weaknesses yet because they may end up being strengths.
We don't know, because there's some untested talent on the
defensive line. There's some untested talent really and the secondary,
especially in the corners. These guys that'd be taking a
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lot of reps this year that didn't take a lot
of reps for offensively, I think you think there's playmakers,
and so bear Bachmeyer his main goal is to get
the ball to the playmakers. And the thing that we've
heard from the coaches, especially from Aaron Roderick, is that
bear Bachmeyer has been thrown a lot of completions in practice.
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And that's good because be what you does have some
guys who can make plays at the receiver and tight
end and running back. And if those are the guys
carrying the ball and towing the ball I had any success,
then that offense will be really good. So strength and weaknesses,
I think once we hit mid season we'll know that
a little better. But right now they're just areas where
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we're just not as sure about as others.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Darnld Dixon, The Daily Heraldi and here on ESPN the
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we've been having today, Darnell, I want you to chime
in on this. A standout MVPs right from Fault Camp.
(06:43):
LJ Martin and Chase Roberts were highlighted by Aaron Roderick,
offensive coordinator. I feel like Cougarnation is expecting some sort
of a thousand yard rushing effort from LJ and like
a thousand yard receiving season from Chase Roberts.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I don't know. I think the last time this.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Happened was in COVID with Tyler Auzier and Dax Milne.
But before that it may have been two thousand and
eight with Austin Colley and Harvey Unga. This is not
an easy thing to do, and boa fans may be
expecting it. Can they reach that quote?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I do think well, first of all, when you talk
about Austin Colley and Harvey Young, you're talking about all
timers at BYU. You're not talking about somebody who just
had one decent season. You're talking about two of the
very best at their position that ever played in a
BYU uniform. And then you have to kind of examine
the way that the game's being played right now. For
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for instance, for Elsie Martin to get a thousand yards,
he'd have to have seventeen eighteen carries a game, probably
in that range. He's only been averaging about thirteen a game,
so he needs to get more work. And obviously his
health has been an issue over the course of his career.
When they want to keep him healthy, most teams will employ,
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you know, five or six different receivers. If you have
an alpha, great, But in the last let's say three,
four or five years b why you really hasn't had
that alpha that gets all of the reps, that gets
all the targets. They'd like to spread the ball around
and they like to keep the defense guessing about where
the ball's going and who's going to be getting it.
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You know, when you have the kind of strength that
some of these Power Conference teams have, sometimes you can
just say, hey, our running backs a our best player,
We're giving it to him thirty times a game. See
if you can stop him. That's really not been by
used philosophy under Aaron Rodrick. He likes to get the
ball out to different people and keep the defense kind
of bon its heels a little bit, and so getting
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that thousand yards for a receiver or a running back
has been a little bit more difficult. I think there's
been talents in the program, guys that were talented enough
to do that, they just didn't get as many reps
as they needed or targets as they needed to get there.
So it'll be interesting to see how they spread that
around this year with Chase being really the most experienced
(09:03):
receiver and lj being the most experienced running back. Maybe
a little bit of depth issues at running back right now.
We'll see how that plays out. But they have to
get the opportunities the touches, and the other part of
that is on some occasions is that Colini Satakie is
not a guy who run up to score, so he
pulls his starters pretty early compared to some other coaches,
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and those guys might have gotten three, four, five, six
more targets.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Who knows, Darnell.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I know it's weeks away, but Josh Pate delved into
a bit of a conspiracy theory that there are rivalry
games that certain administrators, rivalry game names that certain administrators
across college football want to get rid of, and the
Holy War is one of those. There's a civil War Oregon,
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Oregon State. I think they're trying to move away from anyways,
the Holy War. You know, I know internally, b what
I th thing likes it, And I don't even know
if Utah likes it.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Probably they don't like it either.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
If we were ever forced to do away with the
Holy War. You know, Monica, the name, the slogan of
this iconic game, one of the greatest, got to be
top ten rivalry games in college football. In my opinion,
maybe I'm a little bit blue goggled in that regard.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
What would we name it? What are we gonna? What
are we?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
How are we going to rename this thing? Darnell, You've
been around the block. You're a copywriter for a living.
You're a creative, you're a wordsmith, you're a pontificator of palabras,
you are everything, you know everything. What name should we
replace it with? I got a few on the list.
Church versus State, Saints versus Sinners, the in State rivalry game,
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family feud. I don't know, Desert duel, all of them suck?
Anyone ring true to you though? I mean maybe the
Saints versus Sinators, just because I like calling all my
youth friend sinners. They're fallen following in their prodigal sons.
They're they're they're they're the Caine of our locale. You know,
they've fallen away. But what are we going with here?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Though? Come on, there's gonna be a lot of mt.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Remember, yeah, you remember Catholics versus convicts and Notre Dame
versus Miami. For me, yeah, for me, something like this
has to happen organically, not necessarily. I mean, we found out,
we found out that the Desert a first duel. Everyone
put their thumbs down on that and said, no, we
don't want to call it that. And as members of
the media, we tend to chafe against being told this
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is what it's called. We say, hey, we'll call it
what we want. You don't tell us what it's called.
And I got I grew a little tired of the
Holy War thing. I haven't included it really in any
of my previews for a few years, just because I
kind of got like, I said, a little tired of it.
If something happens organically, and I like saints versus singers,
I think that's funny. Certainly Utah fans wouldn't probably like that,
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or maybe some of them would.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I say probably would.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They kind of embrace that there are a bunch of antis, right,
that's what they say.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
We're fruit, right, that's the whole idea.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You're either right, you know, if you're not a b
YU fan, you know, and you're a Utah fan, you're lds.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You know, maybe you're.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
A you're a fence sit or a little bit one
foot in, one foot out, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Let's talk about some of.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The the the uh the you know, the generalizations that
we put out there as fans, as media members.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, and you know, both sides make themselves pretty open
to being made fun of, and and it's it's okay
for I don't mind a little humor in it, a
little poking. I have that in my own family where
I have members of of my my wife's family who
are big Utah fans and our family. You know, I
have watched b Yu fans in my family and they
they poke fun at each other and tease each other
(12:42):
and talk about the game, and that's all in good fun. Again, though,
I want it to happen organically where people kind of go, yeah,
that's what we're calling it now, instead of you know,
us being told this is what it's going to be
called from now on. It's like the schools that say,
don't refer to us as Central Florida. You have to
refer to us is UCF. Why what possible reason could
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there be other than market maybe, you know, so I
want to call That makes me want to call them
Central Florida and everything that I write about him, But
you know, I usually comply with that request.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I have to.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You're a kind hearted soul.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You can be a little bit groff, a little rough
around the edge of sometimes, but deep down Darnell's is softy.
He's a soft heart and kind and meek and gentle,
and the meek shall and heir at the earth. And
that's what will happen with Darnell, There's no doubt about it.
The worst thing is Darnell's ever done by the way
guys is in track and field. His senior year, he
didn't like his teammate and he knocked over the high
(13:40):
jump bar prior to him jumping, or while he was
jumping and his teammate landed on the bar hurt his back.
Worst thing Darnell's ever done in his life.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You and bellack that story so much. Ben, It's true.
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
No, No, it is true. That's the worst thing you've
ever done. I asked you on air, like what's the
worst thing. You're like, well, one time I did this.
I was like, I feel really bad about it. I'm like,
oh my gosh, I'm going to hell. I'm going straight
to the to the outer darkness. I'm going outer darkness. Hey,
check this out. If from Asiata, a guy that was
a four star coming into BYU. Whenever we talk four stars, right,
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we expect impact, immediate impact. Last year he played and
he made some impact, but he's a little bit undersized.
They finally moved him to the second level and they
moved him behind Isaiah Glasker. Kelly Papinga went onto the
coordinator's corner recently and says I from Osada was the
most productive player through all of fall camp.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
He's backing up Isaiah Glasker, a future NFL draft pick.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Maybe like a.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Second round linebacker, third round linebacker. That's how how tremendous
Isaiah Glasser can be if he's healthy, Like, how are
you gonna how is he gonna see the field. He's
the most productive player in fall camp. How can you
insert him a little bit more when he's backing up
Isaiah Glasker.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah. And Ephraim is one of those guys, you know,
b where he recruits a lot of players in the
six three to six, five, two, ten to two twenty
sort of range, and then they can get him in
camp and they think, Okay, now he's a tight end,
Now he's a defensive end. Now he's a linebacker. We're
gonna put him in the cafeteria and turn him into
an offensive lineman. I mean, there's a lot of things
that you can do with guys that have decent size
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and great athleticism. And I think initially maybe Byu was
a little bit kind of experimenting is he going to
fill out become a defensive end? Do we want to
turn him into a linebacker? Where do we you know,
do we want him to drop a little bit of
wait and play him at safety? I mean, Ephroms is
a tremendous athlete, and so I think that they've got
a good spot for him. And the thing we know
(15:45):
about Jay Hillen's defense is they're going to rotate through
twenty twenty three to twenty four guys. They just do that.
And so I think that that ephirm will get specific
looks on the on the field, specific reps to give
Isaica last a little bit of a rest. You know.
I think that you look at what seventy eighty seventy
(16:05):
to eighty plays that the defense has to face in
a game, depending on the game maybe less. I think
that most coaches now know that they're guys at the
speed of the game and the tax that it has
on their body. They want to be able to give
them a little bit of a break. So I think
Ephan's going to learn a lot at that position and
he'll get some chance to be a star in the field.
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They'll find some situations where he can excel, maybe on
some long yarded situations or a third down, you know,
sett him loose on that quarterback and that kind of thing.
But it's great for a young player, and we don't
necessarily see this all the time. Young players they want
to play and if they don't play enough, they transfer
well from state and he's going to get a chance
to showcase a little bit this year. But if he's
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patient and Isaiah goes to the NFL, then from gets
a couple of years to start and goes to the
NFL hmself. So I like the story, and I think
that there's a few guys on this defense that fit
that mold that I've been in the program and are
getting a chance to play more than if they have
the patients that they should have as a college athlete,
They're gonna shine.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
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Well. I am writing a BYU women's volleyball season preview.
They'd start their season on Friday, and it was interesting.
I'll give you a tease just just because I know
how much you love volleyball. Ben Heather Ownstead told me
that she doesn't get her lineup exactly right at the
year at all. She said, the only time that's ever
happened was in twenty fourteen when her brother Sean was
(17:58):
the head coach and she was an assistant and that
team went to the national championship match. It's difficult to
know exactly what you got until you start playing. And
I think they're pretty talented. They've been picked to win
the conference, ranked in the top twenty, and so it's
going to be fun year to watch volleyball here at BYU,
and so that we're working on that. Also got a
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couple more stories from Chris Burgess. I ran one a
little earlier this week about what he observed during the
summer workouts. Spent a lot of time on defense. If
you take a look at the last three games, b
why you played. They got to the sweet sixty, but
they gave up like fifty three pointers. So you know
they have some defensive work to do if they want
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to advance beyond what they did last year. And they
put in a lot of good work. It was fun
to see some former Cougars they're playing. Brandon Davies was there,
Zach Sellias was there. I know Charles Buo mixes it
in there once in a while with them. So some
good things happening with the men's basketball team as well,
that they're going to get started here you're in a
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few weeks and was expected of that group as well.
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W all Right follows every great day.
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it's time for a little cougar byte. Josh Pink college
football insider commentator has heard from a few sources that
there are rivalry games that and rivalry names that certain
(20:58):
administrators within in the universities are trying to change, including
the Holy War BYU versus Utah. There's a number of
games that they're trying to change, but the Holy War.
And so I'm like, okay, let's say for argument's sake,
that we're gonna have to change this name. You know,
(21:21):
Ronald had an experience apparently on his play by play
Utah Preps Game of the Night this last Friday, where
he actually uttered.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
The words Holy War.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
He said something the effect of, Ronnie, you could correct me,
like this seems like a holy war, like these two
teams going against each other. It was a rivalry game, right,
It's kind of volatile, and there was a frenzy going on.
And apparently you got you got maybe a season desist
text saying hey, there's a certain religious group that doesn't
(21:55):
want you Elute utilizing this term. I'm just wondering if
there's some ip involved that were not we're not familiar
with here.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
It must be something because I mean, as far as
I know, people have enjoyed, you know, that name.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Fans call it that. That's why you know. It was
a joke made.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
But I was informed of by a higher up to
not refer to that on the broadcast. Don't say, don't
utter the words. Don't yeah, don't utter those words. Don't
say that. And it's just it's interesting, right because I mean,
this is all fun ancer for crying out loud. I mean,
I don't want the name to be changed, but if
you had to be in I mean Kyle Whittingham, Oh
(22:32):
you mean the en State game?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
You mean the n State Bold.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, yeah, we haven't even like what would we change it.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
I was just kind of addressing, I know, And I
just think it's a issue, Like I don't think there's
an issue with calling get the Holy War.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
If fans want to call it that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
What if b YU and Utah don't want to call
it that their athletic departments they should.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Come out with the official statements and say and don't
refer to it as that and then go for from it.
Like again, these are businesses, right, If you want something
to be the professional way that you should go out
and make a statement or if this is agreed upon
ben that they're going to change names, the athletic departments
on both sides should say, hey, this is being banned
or not, you can't do this, and then put out
a statement and then go forward from there. You got
(23:13):
to take the you know, the correct and proper channels
to do such.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Let's play the sound bite and then let's comment on
any of the names that could be potential. I guess
we would agree upon to change the Holy War to
to one of these projected names. Some of them are
funny that we've come up with. We'll tell you what
they are here coming up. But this is Josh Peyton
(23:36):
Company over there talking changes in rivalry game names.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
And you got folks who have no clue which way
is up when it comes to tradition and pageantry. You
got folks wearing school colors that have no clue what
those colors represent. And I'm telling you, as much as
you made to test some of these people, you do
not detest them enough. Nobody hates college football more than
some of the people that try to run college football.
The types of people we're talking about here are not coaches.
(24:04):
They are not media executives. Even in this case. No,
it's your good old fashioned campus sweater vest. The kind
of people who you don't see a whole lot. You
don't see them because they wait until mid first quarter
to arrive at the stadium and they leave mid fourth
quarter so they don't have to rub shoulders with you.
They will pose with the concession food, but then they
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toss in the trash after you put the phone away
because they're still full from brunch at the country club.
Their job exists because of you, but they can't stand you.
They have nothing in common with you. They could not
care less about you. And they look at a name
like farm Ageddon and they say it's got farm in it, farming.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Who farms?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Farmers, that's who farms. Check your fridge, check it where
you think that came from. They don't know real people,
and they don't want it to be any other way.
They got nothing in common with you. It's okay if
they exist outside college football. But every now and then
one of these folks weasels their way into a decision
making position in college athletics, and they look around and
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they say, oh good, I can make a lot of
money over here. But I don't like this world. It
doesn't look like a world that I want to have
anything to do with it.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And so what do they do? Do They leave? No?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
No, Instead, they try and fundamentally change everything about this world.
Things that we would consider great they consider a nuisance,
rivalry game names being one of those. And I am
here to tell you that as Pate State investigates looked
around this issue earlier today, I uncovered some troubling news.
While there may be nameless, faceless sweater vests at Iowa
(25:42):
State and or Kansas State that would like to do
away with the rivalry game name for Armageddon, that's not
the only rivalry game name that is under threat even
in the Big Twelve. Let them know what college football
means when they throw around those words tradition and pageantry
just cause they focus group, well, let them know they
mean more than just the needle ticked up in their
(26:05):
focus group meter. Those aren't just tested words. Those words
mean something to people, culture, ways of life. That stuff
means something to people like us. And so I would
recommend you speak up long and loud on this sort
of thing, or else you may find yourself on the defensive,
like our fine friends at Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Did okay, So great stuff there from Peate investigate. I
do think it's an interesting commentary. There is a silo.
There are silos within every university. There is the academic silo.
There is the research institution silo many times within that
academic silo, and then you have the athletic department silum.
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And there's always enmity. There's brotherly enmity there. I mean,
the administration tries to keep everybody happy within the travelistic
silo world that they have to live in. But decision
makers that Josh Paiters talking about do reside within these institutions,
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and they do not like that. There is worshiping, there
is money, There is a world that exists outside their silo,
and they degrade it, they undermine it.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
They don't want anything to do with it.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, they'll pose as he mentioned with you know peo,
but they don't want anything to do it. They need
at the country club or whatever. There is a higher key,
if you will, it is after all, these are institutions
of higher learning. That's what it's based off of and
then ancillarily you have sport, you have athletics and their
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quest Remember, the NCAA is this overarching governing body that
these institutions give power to.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
What are they saying the.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Students athlete, student athlete, We can't pay these players to
represent our school. We can't give them more money. They're
getting an education for long term earning potential. Our education
is the finest in the hemisphere. He's the finest in
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the region. That's the Mtsibou. So as it relates to
the Holy War, this is one of the things that
is up for debate here. I don't think BYU likes
the name, the Moniker, the nickname Holy War.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
There is historical.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Things that they probably want to avoid, whether it's jihadis
or the Crusades or what have you.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
The Holy War.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That is a term, especially in our modern day anti
imperialism movement philosophy that we're seeing expanding and that we've
seen expanded in recent history amongst the institution of higher learning.
They they've they don't like it.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I think there's an element there.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
There's a religious element too, right, there's obviously a religious element.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So let's make it light. Let's turn it into levity.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
If we have to move on from the Holy wor
Moniker the nickname, where would we go. I've always been
open to church versus state. Oh boy, I'm okay with it.
The Church of Jesus Christ, the Latter day Saints versus
the state university University of Utah.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Most recently, we had a debate with Kevin Reynolds.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Kevin Rentolds says and he got some quotes from a
CSU Pueblo, you know, professor and some random BYU fan
named rasmusin.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
That says, it's the you know.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Spending money in athletics is not concrute with the Church
of Jesus Christ, letter states, and not concruted with the
mission of bringing me.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
On university about the fact that doesn't come from either
of those places.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Despite the fact, despite the truth of it all right,
totally gets So, you know, it's just interesting to me
that that dilemma of like of you know, the spiritual
nature and that moral dilemma that people are seeing from
the outside, the haters, the antis. And then I brought up, well,
(30:16):
I thought the University of Utah was an academic institution.
Why are you spending Why is Kyle, winning him the
highest paid employee in the state of freaking Utah. If
you guys are all about truth and knowledge and science
and medicine, and why are you guys investing all of
your money into athletics, all that money into athletics.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It's an issue.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
So church versus state, there's enmity there. It's powerful.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
AP What do you got for me?
Speaker 8 (30:42):
I've got a few, So I've got four right now.
I'm not sure how great they are, but these are
just I don't know. The morality bowl we could throw,
it's not that great. The faith crisis, okay, it's in there.
The founder's feude, I think both so there's gotta be
a founder's few because both were founded by Brigham Young.
(31:04):
I think there's something there. I found when it kind
of code versus cure, you know, and integrating a little
bit of the medical versus the technology or the honor code.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I don't know, it's not They're not great.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I think we need to go all in with Kyle
Whittingham's suggestion. The in state robbery, the m state, the
instate in state rivalry, that's what we're saying, the in
state rivalry. Thanks Kyle, there's the Seer showdown. You know,
there's an argument between the two schools of the School
of the Prophets, you know, profits coming from the University
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of Utah.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
B Yu was like, we're the school of the problem
Brigham Bowl. Hmm.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Interesting, Yeah, the Deseret Duel. No one wants the trash.
No offense to whoever made that up. That has Yeah,
I like this and rumble this is the one that
I really like. Saints versus the Sinners, that's.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Oh yeah, I give that. They don't buy into it.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's and Brett Hammer brought this up, you know, and
it does kind of I think it leans into a
little bit of this, what about the Utah Civil War.
We gotta you can't do civil war once again? Suns
Prodigal Sun game, Prodigal Sun Game. But then I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(32:37):
I mean I like kind of I I I kind
of dig the.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
You know, the whole you know, what is it? The
Catholics versus the Convicts? Is that what it was?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah? Saints versus the sinners. Class, come on, let's go
Sts versus the sinners. Mountain Mission anyway.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Saints versus centers, Church versus State.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
What was your favorite at it the ones that you mentioned,
is there one that none of them were backing off?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You're backing off?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
This crisis is kind of funny to me. See your showdown,
I think is the family feud?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
No, the house divided, House divided?
Speaker 6 (33:12):
How's divided? I thought it was funny House divided?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, I like that segment. I'm I'm taking
a stand. I am the Temple tussle.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I am taking a stand.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I will not get rid of the Holy War, at
least on my hours until I received that cease and desist.
You know, hey, we're gonna sue you property. I'm like,
all right, well, actually I have a good time.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
About the Great Soda War Pepsi versus Coke, like you
know that powerate mhm, yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
I do find it funny though Pepsi and Coke. Pepsi
is more blue and they sponsor Utah red like.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Where That's That's what I'm saying, and that's why I
think it's funny. Like the Great Soda War, you know,
Swig versus you know is all.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
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this one on what their favorites were and why that's
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Beway your Portland State at home. We'll see how it
plays out for the Cougs, hopefully better than you know.
(34:29):
You gotta you want to at least throughout forty two
on him, like Tarlington State did.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
That's that's quota. Am I wrong?
Speaker 6 (34:35):
No, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
They got it.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
They gotta go more. I think quotas forty two, dude,
it's Tarlington State. Like, if the twos and threes aren't
putting more, just get forty two. That's all I need. Nah,
you gotta get more here, be forty two. I mean
because think about it, if you were to play Charltt
and state, what would you need to do, Like, I
don't know, I think you gotta Brett and I had
this conversation, you know, off the air about Killanney's not
(34:57):
gonna go and embarrass him. But I mean, hey, look,
you played the West Virginia game in the West of
Virginia game years ago, and I know they put up
forty nine, but you put him sixty six. So I
don't know, roote sixty six in the first game. So
it that's me being funny, But I don't know. I
think you need to at least score two more touchdowns
than forty two. So that's why I said sixty you know,
(35:18):
go for one hundred. No, okay, not that far, but
I think sixty minutes a purple Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
My thing is, I don't think Killine's gonna like just
like you know, just pummel them into a pulp. Like
it's You're gonna continue to compete and play and run
the football and if they.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Can't tattoo you, I know, but if they're not going
to the house, this is like it's like I think
the game.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I think a shutout and getting upwards of forty points
to me, is quota.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
That's fantastic. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Portland State is so bad that even if you send
in the backups, I think you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
And that's what I mean. It's like rugby. You can't well,
i'ma lay down right here.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Like if it's six minutes left in the fourth quarter,
you break up the middle, what you're gonna tell them
go slide? Like that's bad football? Like that I would
have to klane again. This is not the comany one.
I just think. I think Portland State is not is
that bad that if Joe Vessa de Mooni breaks up
the middle, you're not gonna tell him slide at the
one yard line of likely no, he's gonna score. So
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I just think with how bad they are, it might
be ugly and there's no reflection of kilane.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
They're just not equipped.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Here's one of my expectations between Stanford and Portland State.
I think one touchdown and one field goal. That's how
bad both those teams are. To me, Well, see how
it plays out. What's quota in your mind? Cougarnation will
maybe save that for another segment. Don't go anywhere.
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(01:31):
the line, Dollar New Dixon.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
What's up, Double D.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I just want to congratulate everyone from making it through
the summer in the offseason without college football. We've made it.
It's going to start tomorrow night and for BYU on Saturday. Uh,
none of us went crazy or committed to felonies that
we well that maybe we know level was hit. So
it's it was a crazy, weird offseason. But we've made
(01:57):
it through and now we're ready for college football. We're
ready for all the talk to go away and actual
performance on the field matters, and we'll see that soon.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Love that we survived, We survived. We're here college football kickoff.
We had Week zero, which was tremendous. It was glorious,
It was marvelousy and the pig skin being thrown around.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
There's some sloppy football as well.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Do you always expect a little bit of slip slap,
slappy joe football week one?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Week zero? For sure?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And as we look at Saturday's game by U in
Portland State, and one of the things I'm going to
be looking for is how efficient can Bay's offense be,
how error freaking to be? And we know that their
first scrimmage there were a lot of procedural type penalties
and things that they needed to take care of, so
you know, you also want to see explosiveness. You want
(02:52):
to see the ability to strike hard and strike fast
and put the defense on their heels. But yeah, that
first game there's always going to be and especially in
BYU situation now where it appears the Portland State isn't
very good and so BYU will be playing third and
four stream guys. Probably by a third quarter that'll get
sloppy and that that could prove not to be quite
(03:15):
as entertaining as we hope. But it's valuable to the
team to get those guys some reps and kind of
see where they are.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So, Darnell, as the Cougar football season kicks off, what
are the storylines?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Would you say?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
What are the main storylines that you're most intrigued by
as we kick off this season with the bau Cougars.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well, so, today Brandon Gerdy and I are doing what
we call a one on one where we ask BYU
questions and answer them each get a chance to answer them.
And I told him that are one on one today
is a non Bear Bachmeyer version of that one on
one because man, have we written a lot about him
and talked a lot about him. So certainly the quarterbacks
(04:00):
situation and the fact boy you're starting a true freshman
in game one for the first time ever is a
huge storyline. I think that as we progressed through the
fall camp, there weren't a ton of surprises. I mean,
I think there's a few guys maybe that show up
as as you know on the depth chart, or maybe
a little lower than we thought. But it's pretty much
(04:21):
the team we expected. Now we just need to see
if they perform as we think they can expect. And
I noticed somebody is saying something about that all knowing
grin that Jay Hill gets when he knows something we don't.
He likes his defense, and if that is the case,
then I think BAU is in for a pretty fun
season with the dominating defense that can play that complimentary
(04:42):
football that by you coaches like to talk.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
About the weaknesses of this team, the strengths of this team,
project them for me, what do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, that's a little tough, excuse me. And we may
not know some of those until a little bit later
as b YU gets into Big twelve play because we
just don't know. I mean, obviously, Portland State didn't look
very good and their opener got be forty two to
nothing at home. Stanford didn't look very overpowering. We haven't
seen East Carolina yet, excuse me, East Carolina yet, But
(05:17):
I would say if you're looking at weaknesses, it's hard.
You might say there's areas of question. I wouldn't even
call them weaknesses yet because they may end up being strengths.
We don't know, because there's some untested talent on the
defensive line. There's some untested talent really and the secondary,
especially in the corners. These guys that'd be taking a
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lot of reps this year that didn't take a lot
of reps for offensively, I think you think there's playmakers,
and so bear Bachmeyer his main goal is to get
the ball to the playmakers. And the thing that we've
heard from the coaches, especially from Aaron Roderick, is that
bear Bachmeyer has been thrown a lot of completions in practice.
(05:58):
And that's good because be what you does have some
guys who can make plays at the receiver and tight
end and running back. And if those are the guys
carrying the ball and towing the ball I had any success,
then that offense will be really good. So strength and weaknesses,
I think once we hit mid season we'll know that
a little better. But right now they're just areas where
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we're just not as sure about as others.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Darnld Dixon, The Daily Heraldi and here on ESPN the
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we've been having today, Darnell, I want you to chime
in on this. A standout MVPs right from Fault Camp.
(06:43):
LJ Martin and Chase Roberts were highlighted by Aaron Roderick,
offensive coordinator. I feel like Cougarnation is expecting some sort
of a thousand yard rushing effort from LJ and like
a thousand yard receiving season from Chase Roberts.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I don't know. I think the last time this.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Happened was in COVID with Tyler Auzier and Dax Milne.
But before that it may have been two thousand and
eight with Austin Colley and Harvey Unga. This is not
an easy thing to do, and boa fans may be
expecting it. Can they reach that quote?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I do think well, first of all, when you talk
about Austin Colley and Harvey Young, you're talking about all
timers at BYU. You're not talking about somebody who just
had one decent season. You're talking about two of the
very best at their position that ever played in a
BYU uniform. And then you have to kind of examine
the way that the game's being played right now. For
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for instance, for Elsie Martin to get a thousand yards,
he'd have to have seventeen eighteen carries a game, probably
in that range. He's only been averaging about thirteen a game,
so he needs to get more work. And obviously his
health has been an issue over the course of his career.
When they want to keep him healthy, most teams will employ,
(08:00):
you know, five or six different receivers. If you have
an alpha, great, But in the last let's say three,
four or five years b why you really hasn't had
that alpha that gets all of the reps, that gets
all the targets. They'd like to spread the ball around
and they like to keep the defense guessing about where
the ball's going and who's going to be getting it.
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You know, when you have the kind of strength that
some of these Power Conference teams have, sometimes you can
just say, hey, our running backs a our best player,
We're giving it to him thirty times a game. See
if you can stop him. That's really not been by
used philosophy under Aaron Rodrick. He likes to get the
ball out to different people and keep the defense kind
of bon its heels a little bit, and so getting
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that thousand yards for a receiver or a running back
has been a little bit more difficult. I think there's
been talents in the program, guys that were talented enough
to do that, they just didn't get as many reps
as they needed or targets as they needed to get there.
So it'll be interesting to see how they spread that
around this year with Chase being really the most experienced
(09:03):
receiver and lj being the most experienced running back. Maybe
a little bit of depth issues at running back right now.
We'll see how that plays out. But they have to
get the opportunities the touches, and the other part of
that is on some occasions is that Colini Satakie is
not a guy who run up to score, so he
pulls his starters pretty early compared to some other coaches,
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and those guys might have gotten three, four, five, six
more targets.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Who knows, Darnell.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I know it's weeks away, but Josh Pate delved into
a bit of a conspiracy theory that there are rivalry
games that certain administrators, rivalry game names that certain administrators
across college football want to get rid of, and the
Holy War is one of those. There's a civil War Oregon,
(09:54):
Oregon State. I think they're trying to move away from anyways,
the Holy War. You know, I know internally, b what
I th thing likes it, And I don't even know
if Utah likes it.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Probably they don't like it either.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
If we were ever forced to do away with the
Holy War. You know, Monica, the name, the slogan of
this iconic game, one of the greatest, got to be
top ten rivalry games in college football. In my opinion,
maybe I'm a little bit blue goggled in that regard.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
What would we name it? What are we gonna? What
are we?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
How are we going to rename this thing? Darnell, You've
been around the block. You're a copywriter for a living.
You're a creative, you're a wordsmith, you're a pontificator of palabras,
you are everything, you know everything. What name should we
replace it with? I got a few on the list.
Church versus State, Saints versus Sinners, the in State rivalry game,
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family feud. I don't know, Desert duel, all of them suck?
Anyone ring true to you though? I mean maybe the
Saints versus Sinators, just because I like calling all my
youth friend sinners. They're fallen following in their prodigal sons.
They're they're they're they're the Caine of our locale. You know,
they've fallen away. But what are we going with here?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Though? Come on, there's gonna be a lot of mt.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Remember, yeah, you remember Catholics versus convicts and Notre Dame
versus Miami. For me, yeah, for me, something like this
has to happen organically, not necessarily. I mean, we found out,
we found out that the Desert a first duel. Everyone
put their thumbs down on that and said, no, we
don't want to call it that. And as members of
the media, we tend to chafe against being told this
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is what it's called. We say, hey, we'll call it
what we want. You don't tell us what it's called.
And I got I grew a little tired of the
Holy War thing. I haven't included it really in any
of my previews for a few years, just because I
kind of got like, I said, a little tired of it.
If something happens organically, and I like saints versus singers,
I think that's funny. Certainly Utah fans wouldn't probably like that,
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or maybe some of them would.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I say probably would.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
They kind of embrace that there are a bunch of antis, right,
that's what they say.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
We're fruit, right, that's the whole idea.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You're either right, you know, if you're not a b
YU fan, you know, and you're a Utah fan, you're lds.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You know, maybe you're.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
A you're a fence sit or a little bit one
foot in, one foot out, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Let's talk about some of.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The the the uh the you know, the generalizations that
we put out there as fans, as media members.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, and you know, both sides make themselves pretty open
to being made fun of, and and it's it's okay
for I don't mind a little humor in it, a
little poking. I have that in my own family where
I have members of of my my wife's family who
are big Utah fans and our family. You know, I
have watched b Yu fans in my family and they
they poke fun at each other and tease each other
(12:42):
and talk about the game, and that's all in good fun. Again, though,
I want it to happen organically where people kind of go, yeah,
that's what we're calling it now, instead of you know,
us being told this is what it's going to be
called from now on. It's like the schools that say,
don't refer to us as Central Florida. You have to
refer to us is UCF. Why what possible reason could
(13:04):
there be other than market maybe, you know, so I
want to call That makes me want to call them
Central Florida and everything that I write about him, But
you know, I usually comply with that request.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I have to.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You're a kind hearted soul.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You can be a little bit groff, a little rough
around the edge of sometimes, but deep down Darnell's is softy.
He's a soft heart and kind and meek and gentle,
and the meek shall and heir at the earth. And
that's what will happen with Darnell, There's no doubt about it.
The worst thing is Darnell's ever done by the way
guys is in track and field. His senior year, he
didn't like his teammate and he knocked over the high
(13:40):
jump bar prior to him jumping, or while he was
jumping and his teammate landed on the bar hurt his back.
Worst thing Darnell's ever done in his life.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You and bellack that story so much. Ben, It's true.
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
No, No, it is true. That's the worst thing you've
ever done. I asked you on air, like what's the
worst thing. You're like, well, one time I did this.
I was like, I feel really bad about it. I'm like,
oh my gosh, I'm going to hell. I'm going straight
to the to the outer darkness. I'm going outer darkness. Hey,
check this out. If from Asiata, a guy that was
a four star coming into BYU. Whenever we talk four stars, right,
(14:17):
we expect impact, immediate impact. Last year he played and
he made some impact, but he's a little bit undersized.
They finally moved him to the second level and they
moved him behind Isaiah Glasker. Kelly Papinga went onto the
coordinator's corner recently and says I from Osada was the
most productive player through all of fall camp.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
He's backing up Isaiah Glasker, a future NFL draft pick.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Maybe like a.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Second round linebacker, third round linebacker. That's how how tremendous
Isaiah Glasser can be if he's healthy, Like, how are
you gonna how is he gonna see the field. He's
the most productive player in fall camp. How can you
insert him a little bit more when he's backing up
Isaiah Glasker.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah. And Ephraim is one of those guys, you know,
b where he recruits a lot of players in the
six three to six, five, two, ten to two twenty
sort of range, and then they can get him in
camp and they think, Okay, now he's a tight end,
Now he's a defensive end. Now he's a linebacker. We're
gonna put him in the cafeteria and turn him into
an offensive lineman. I mean, there's a lot of things
that you can do with guys that have decent size
(15:22):
and great athleticism. And I think initially maybe Byu was
a little bit kind of experimenting is he going to
fill out become a defensive end? Do we want to
turn him into a linebacker? Where do we you know,
do we want him to drop a little bit of
wait and play him at safety? I mean, Ephroms is
a tremendous athlete, and so I think that they've got
a good spot for him. And the thing we know
(15:45):
about Jay Hillen's defense is they're going to rotate through
twenty twenty three to twenty four guys. They just do that.
And so I think that that ephirm will get specific
looks on the on the field, specific reps to give
Isaica last a little bit of a rest. You know.
I think that you look at what seventy eighty seventy
(16:05):
to eighty plays that the defense has to face in
a game, depending on the game maybe less. I think
that most coaches now know that they're guys at the
speed of the game and the tax that it has
on their body. They want to be able to give
them a little bit of a break. So I think
Ephan's going to learn a lot at that position and
he'll get some chance to be a star in the field.
(16:26):
They'll find some situations where he can excel, maybe on
some long yarded situations or a third down, you know,
sett him loose on that quarterback and that kind of thing.
But it's great for a young player, and we don't
necessarily see this all the time. Young players they want
to play and if they don't play enough, they transfer
well from state and he's going to get a chance
to showcase a little bit this year. But if he's
(16:48):
patient and Isaiah goes to the NFL, then from gets
a couple of years to start and goes to the
NFL hmself. So I like the story, and I think
that there's a few guys on this defense that fit
that mold that I've been in the program and are
getting a chance to play more than if they have
the patients that they should have as a college athlete,
They're gonna shine.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
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Speaker 3 (17:35):
Well. I am writing a BYU women's volleyball season preview.
They'd start their season on Friday, and it was interesting.
I'll give you a tease just just because I know
how much you love volleyball. Ben Heather Ownstead told me
that she doesn't get her lineup exactly right at the
year at all. She said, the only time that's ever
happened was in twenty fourteen when her brother Sean was
(17:58):
the head coach and she was an assistant and that
team went to the national championship match. It's difficult to
know exactly what you got until you start playing. And
I think they're pretty talented. They've been picked to win
the conference, ranked in the top twenty, and so it's
going to be fun year to watch volleyball here at BYU,
and so that we're working on that. Also got a
(18:20):
couple more stories from Chris Burgess. I ran one a
little earlier this week about what he observed during the
summer workouts. Spent a lot of time on defense. If
you take a look at the last three games, b
why you played. They got to the sweet sixty, but
they gave up like fifty three pointers. So you know
they have some defensive work to do if they want
(18:40):
to advance beyond what they did last year. And they
put in a lot of good work. It was fun
to see some former Cougars they're playing. Brandon Davies was there,
Zach Sellias was there. I know Charles Buo mixes it
in there once in a while with them. So some
good things happening with the men's basketball team as well,
that they're going to get started here you're in a
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it's time for a little cougar byte. Josh Pink college
football insider commentator has heard from a few sources that
there are rivalry games that and rivalry names that certain
(20:58):
administrators within in the universities are trying to change, including
the Holy War BYU versus Utah. There's a number of
games that they're trying to change, but the Holy War.
And so I'm like, okay, let's say for argument's sake,
that we're gonna have to change this name. You know,
(21:21):
Ronald had an experience apparently on his play by play
Utah Preps Game of the Night this last Friday, where
he actually uttered.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
The words Holy War.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
He said something the effect of, Ronnie, you could correct me,
like this seems like a holy war, like these two
teams going against each other. It was a rivalry game, right,
It's kind of volatile, and there was a frenzy going on.
And apparently you got you got maybe a season desist
text saying hey, there's a certain religious group that doesn't
(21:55):
want you Elute utilizing this term. I'm just wondering if
there's some ip involved that were not we're not familiar
with here.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
It must be something because I mean, as far as
I know, people have enjoyed, you know, that name.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Fans call it that. That's why you know. It was
a joke made.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
But I was informed of by a higher up to
not refer to that on the broadcast. Don't say, don't
utter the words. Don't yeah, don't utter those words. Don't
say that. And it's just it's interesting, right because I mean,
this is all fun ancer for crying out loud. I mean,
I don't want the name to be changed, but if
you had to be in I mean Kyle Whittingham, Oh
(22:32):
you mean the en State game?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
You mean the n State Bold.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Well, yeah, we haven't even like what would we change it.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
I was just kind of addressing, I know, And I
just think it's a issue, Like I don't think there's
an issue with calling get the Holy War.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
If fans want to call it that.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
What if b YU and Utah don't want to call
it that their athletic departments they should.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Come out with the official statements and say and don't
refer to it as that and then go for from it.
Like again, these are businesses, right, If you want something
to be the professional way that you should go out
and make a statement or if this is agreed upon
ben that they're going to change names, the athletic departments
on both sides should say, hey, this is being banned
or not, you can't do this, and then put out
a statement and then go forward from there. You got
(23:13):
to take the you know, the correct and proper channels
to do such.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Let's play the sound bite and then let's comment on
any of the names that could be potential. I guess
we would agree upon to change the Holy War to
to one of these projected names. Some of them are
funny that we've come up with. We'll tell you what
they are here coming up. But this is Josh Peyton
(23:36):
Company over there talking changes in rivalry game names.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
And you got folks who have no clue which way
is up when it comes to tradition and pageantry. You
got folks wearing school colors that have no clue what
those colors represent. And I'm telling you, as much as
you made to test some of these people, you do
not detest them enough. Nobody hates college football more than
some of the people that try to run college football.
The types of people we're talking about here are not coaches.
(24:04):
They are not media executives. Even in this case. No,
it's your good old fashioned campus sweater vest. The kind
of people who you don't see a whole lot. You
don't see them because they wait until mid first quarter
to arrive at the stadium and they leave mid fourth
quarter so they don't have to rub shoulders with you.
They will pose with the concession food, but then they
(24:26):
toss in the trash after you put the phone away
because they're still full from brunch at the country club.
Their job exists because of you, but they can't stand you.
They have nothing in common with you. They could not
care less about you. And they look at a name
like farm Ageddon and they say it's got farm in it, farming.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Who farms?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Farmers, that's who farms. Check your fridge, check it where
you think that came from. They don't know real people,
and they don't want it to be any other way.
They got nothing in common with you. It's okay if
they exist outside college football. But every now and then
one of these folks weasels their way into a decision
making position in college athletics, and they look around and
(25:10):
they say, oh good, I can make a lot of
money over here. But I don't like this world. It
doesn't look like a world that I want to have
anything to do with it.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And so what do they do? Do They leave? No?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
No, Instead, they try and fundamentally change everything about this world.
Things that we would consider great they consider a nuisance,
rivalry game names being one of those. And I am
here to tell you that as Pate State investigates looked
around this issue earlier today, I uncovered some troubling news.
While there may be nameless, faceless sweater vests at Iowa
(25:42):
State and or Kansas State that would like to do
away with the rivalry game name for Armageddon, that's not
the only rivalry game name that is under threat even
in the Big Twelve. Let them know what college football
means when they throw around those words tradition and pageantry
just cause they focus group, well, let them know they
mean more than just the needle ticked up in their
(26:05):
focus group meter. Those aren't just tested words. Those words
mean something to people, culture, ways of life. That stuff
means something to people like us. And so I would
recommend you speak up long and loud on this sort
of thing, or else you may find yourself on the defensive,
like our fine friends at Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Did okay, So great stuff there from Peate investigate. I
do think it's an interesting commentary. There is a silo.
There are silos within every university. There is the academic silo.
There is the research institution silo many times within that
academic silo, and then you have the athletic department silum.
(26:47):
And there's always enmity. There's brotherly enmity there. I mean,
the administration tries to keep everybody happy within the travelistic
silo world that they have to live in. But decision
makers that Josh Paiters talking about do reside within these institutions,
(27:10):
and they do not like that. There is worshiping, there
is money, There is a world that exists outside their silo,
and they degrade it, they undermine it.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
They don't want anything to do with it.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, they'll pose as he mentioned with you know peo,
but they don't want anything to do it. They need
at the country club or whatever. There is a higher key,
if you will, it is after all, these are institutions
of higher learning. That's what it's based off of and
then ancillarily you have sport, you have athletics and their
(27:47):
quest Remember, the NCAA is this overarching governing body that
these institutions give power to.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
What are they saying the.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Students athlete, student athlete, We can't pay these players to
represent our school. We can't give them more money. They're
getting an education for long term earning potential. Our education
is the finest in the hemisphere. He's the finest in
(28:19):
the region. That's the Mtsibou. So as it relates to
the Holy War, this is one of the things that
is up for debate here. I don't think BYU likes
the name, the Moniker, the nickname Holy War.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
There is historical.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Things that they probably want to avoid, whether it's jihadis
or the Crusades or what have you.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
The Holy War.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That is a term, especially in our modern day anti
imperialism movement philosophy that we're seeing expanding and that we've
seen expanded in recent history amongst the institution of higher learning.
They they've they don't like it.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I think there's an element there.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
There's a religious element too, right, there's obviously a religious element.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So let's make it light. Let's turn it into levity.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
If we have to move on from the Holy wor
Moniker the nickname, where would we go. I've always been
open to church versus state. Oh boy, I'm okay with it.
The Church of Jesus Christ, the Latter day Saints versus
the state university University of Utah.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Most recently, we had a debate with Kevin Reynolds.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Kevin Rentolds says and he got some quotes from a
CSU Pueblo, you know, professor and some random BYU fan
named rasmusin.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
That says, it's the you know.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Spending money in athletics is not concrute with the Church
of Jesus Christ, letter states, and not concruted with the
mission of bringing me.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
On university about the fact that doesn't come from either
of those places.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Despite the fact, despite the truth of it all right,
totally gets So, you know, it's just interesting to me
that that dilemma of like of you know, the spiritual
nature and that moral dilemma that people are seeing from
the outside, the haters, the antis. And then I brought up, well,
(30:16):
I thought the University of Utah was an academic institution.
Why are you spending Why is Kyle, winning him the
highest paid employee in the state of freaking Utah. If
you guys are all about truth and knowledge and science
and medicine, and why are you guys investing all of
your money into athletics, all that money into athletics.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It's an issue.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
So church versus state, there's enmity there. It's powerful.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
AP What do you got for me?
Speaker 8 (30:42):
I've got a few, So I've got four right now.
I'm not sure how great they are, but these are
just I don't know. The morality bowl we could throw,
it's not that great. The faith crisis, okay, it's in there.
The founder's feude, I think both so there's gotta be
a founder's few because both were founded by Brigham Young.
(31:04):
I think there's something there. I found when it kind
of code versus cure, you know, and integrating a little
bit of the medical versus the technology or the honor code.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I don't know, it's not They're not great.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I think we need to go all in with Kyle
Whittingham's suggestion. The in state robbery, the m state, the
instate in state rivalry, that's what we're saying, the in
state rivalry. Thanks Kyle, there's the Seer showdown. You know,
there's an argument between the two schools of the School
of the Prophets, you know, profits coming from the University
(31:42):
of Utah.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
B Yu was like, we're the school of the problem
Brigham Bowl. Hmm.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Interesting, Yeah, the Deseret Duel. No one wants the trash.
No offense to whoever made that up. That has Yeah,
I like this and rumble this is the one that
I really like. Saints versus the Sinners, that's.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Oh yeah, I give that. They don't buy into it.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's and Brett Hammer brought this up, you know, and
it does kind of I think it leans into a
little bit of this, what about the Utah Civil War.
We gotta you can't do civil war once again? Suns
Prodigal Sun game, Prodigal Sun Game. But then I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(32:37):
I mean I like kind of I I I kind
of dig the.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
You know, the whole you know, what is it? The
Catholics versus the Convicts? Is that what it was?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah? Saints versus the sinners. Class, come on, let's go
Sts versus the sinners. Mountain Mission anyway.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Saints versus centers, Church versus State.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
What was your favorite at it the ones that you mentioned,
is there one that none of them were backing off?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You're backing off?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
This crisis is kind of funny to me. See your showdown,
I think is the family feud?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
No, the house divided, House divided?
Speaker 6 (33:12):
How's divided? I thought it was funny House divided?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, I like that segment. I'm I'm taking
a stand. I am the Temple tussle.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I am taking a stand.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I will not get rid of the Holy War, at
least on my hours until I received that cease and desist.
You know, hey, we're gonna sue you property. I'm like,
all right, well, actually I have a good time.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
About the Great Soda War Pepsi versus Coke, like you
know that powerate mhm, yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
I do find it funny though Pepsi and Coke. Pepsi
is more blue and they sponsor Utah red like.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Where That's That's what I'm saying, and that's why I
think it's funny. Like the Great Soda War, you know,
Swig versus you know is all.
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(34:29):
You gotta you want to at least throughout forty two
on him, like Tarlington State did.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
That's that's quota. Am I wrong?
Speaker 6 (34:35):
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They got it.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
They gotta go more. I think quotas forty two, dude,
it's Tarlington State. Like, if the twos and threes aren't
putting more, just get forty two. That's all I need. Nah,
you gotta get more here, be forty two. I mean
because think about it, if you were to play Charltt
and state, what would you need to do, Like, I
don't know, I think you gotta Brett and I had
this conversation, you know, off the air about Killanney's not
(34:57):
gonna go and embarrass him. But I mean, hey, look,
you played the West Virginia game in the West of
Virginia game years ago, and I know they put up
forty nine, but you put him sixty six. So I
don't know, roote sixty six in the first game. So
it that's me being funny, But I don't know. I
think you need to at least score two more touchdowns
than forty two. So that's why I said sixty you know,
(35:18):
go for one hundred. No, okay, not that far, but
I think sixty minutes a purple Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
My thing is, I don't think Killine's gonna like just
like you know, just pummel them into a pulp. Like
it's You're gonna continue to compete and play and run
the football and if they.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Can't tattoo you, I know, but if they're not going
to the house, this is like it's like I think
the game.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
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Speaker 4 (35:43):
That's fantastic. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Portland State is so bad that even if you send
in the backups, I think you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
And that's what I mean. It's like rugby. You can't well,
i'ma lay down right here.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Like if it's six minutes left in the fourth quarter,
you break up the middle, what you're gonna tell them
go slide? Like that's bad football? Like that I would
have to klane again. This is not the comany one.
I just think. I think Portland State is not is
that bad that if Joe Vessa de Mooni breaks up
the middle, you're not gonna tell him slide at the
one yard line of likely no, he's gonna score. So
(36:14):
I just think with how bad they are, it might
be ugly and there's no reflection of kilane.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
They're just not equipped.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Here's one of my expectations between Stanford and Portland State.
I think one touchdown and one field goal. That's how
bad both those teams are. To me, Well, see how
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