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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stats.
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Let's talk about stats. Been Cretinal and his team of
former players and insiders give you the latest stats, data
and analytics that are trending in the world of Cougar
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome back on your sports one of three nine ninety
eight point three ESPN the Fan. I'm at Crital broadcasting
from our Banterwell studios, Banderwealth dot com. You need to
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(00:36):
Get on a free Q and A today at Banterwealth.
Let's talk about stats. Let's talk about some numbers today
with a man of metrics, our favorite vitro retinal surgeon Optimologists.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
He's a dad of ten kiddos.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He lives in Alabama, but he's a big Brigham fan
and also just a fantastic human. Let's welcome in Jeff
Fuller to the show. Jeff, he's in studios, well, not
on the phone right now, one of our ESPN contributors
with all metrics, data, analytics, UH topics.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What's up Jeff, Yeah, great.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I love the intro. I don't know if I'm fully
deserving of all that, but but uh yeah, love love
being here and in provo and great to be with
you all in the flesh.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Ben also left out uncanny Tom Cruise look alike as well.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Exactly yes, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And Tom Cruise look alike.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's my apologies, my apaulies, Jeff, I missed that one.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I saw the eyebrows raise when you no, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I had to do a double take.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm like, wait, well, yeah, you know there's some Tom
Cruise got a little bit of that same job.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, that's why he's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Wife married him in the first place, you know, he's
like she she fell in love with Tom and top
gun and then married his look alike and the.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Future Viteo retinal surgeon. And Jeff, well, yeah, I took
a different tag.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
You know what they say, if I had a dollar
for every woman who found me unattractive, they'd eventually find
me attractive.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No doubt about it. Then.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
See, there's a concept there that I've delved into before.
Not to get too philosophical, but there's a natural I've
always said there's a natural man and there's a natural woman,
and they're two different things.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Security is key, exactly, that's true.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Financial, physical, and emotional security, all those securities the s
words of the natural woman. Anyway, b YU alumni stats here.
You were down at the alumni conference, the leadership conference
earlier today. Uh, And so we gotta get some insights there.
But ba alumni stats from the twenty twenty five Alumni
(02:37):
Leadership Conference four hundred and sixty five and forty total
living alumni. And what is fifty five percent is out
of state? Is out of state?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, absolutely, and that matches sort of the enrollment trends
over the last couple of decades. You know, the majority
of the of the student body is not Utah resident.
You know, it's by far the most common state of
of b YU students. But if you total everyone else
that's not from there, it's you know, Utah is a
(03:10):
relative minority, uh, compared to the total student body. And
and you know that's that makes total sense.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Right. It's a global faith.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It's a global you know, we talk about the brand
of b YU and the fan base, it's not you know,
it's not just here. It is you know, it's it
is it rivals Utah for the biggest brand in the
in the state, but outside the state, it's a it's
a whole different story, you know. That's that's where BYU
really shines and I think is interesting to to certain
media partners and certain certain other partners just because of
(03:41):
the of the reach beyond the state borders.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Does this include by Hawaii BYU Idaho graduates? This is
just made a provo yep, just b.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
YU, just just break them well, you know, I feel
like you know it's in no, it's like you can
add an additional.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, if you if you.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Two hund th fifty thousand more than that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Oh yeah, when you want when you talk about pathways,
when you talk about I'm trying, I'm trying to remember
the total number is definitely like well over one hundred
thousand when you talk about current enrollment in pathways b
YU Idaho, you know BYU here in provo and by Hawaii.
So yeah, LDS Business College is still called that or
(04:23):
ENDSIGN College.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I think it is ENSIGN College now.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So yeah, it's the church values education and you know
a lot of that's why the the tuition is even
as a as a non LDS person, the tuition is
a great value coming to PROVOKEE and now the church
values it puts a lot of a lot of its
finances behind education and delivering great education.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No doubt about it. It's something we've discussed before. I
think you and I have discussed this a couple of
times in the off season comments and things that nature.
But I've always wanted more, more enrollment, right, more expansion
if we have to a certain degree unlimited resources and
education is a is just a primary focus of ours.
Why education well, education hopefully finds truth. Truth, Truth provides knowledge,
(05:14):
Knowledge provides I think spiritual enlightenment perspective that leads us
into the eternities from every book you should read, right,
there's all good books, right, all those things right, these principles,
So like, why not expand enrollment at b YU, Why
not engage aggressively and bringing in the best minds, bringing
(05:34):
in the best teachers, right, paying them a fair market
rate to do such? You know, in fair market you
know is you know, there's other benefits to being a
BYU outside of just monetary you know, monetary W two income,
et cetera. So we can all agree on that, I think,
But why not aggressively expand and be a little bit
(05:55):
more inclusive with our student body and who were pursuing
and who were who were educating within our faith, because
we do have some great data that says if you
go to BYU, you graduate, you are more likely to
stay active.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh yeah, you know what I mean, stay active in
the faith.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Maybe you get communal and be a part of reward
and be active in that regard.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah. Absolutely, you know, b YU by nature attracts people
who are who are interested in being quote unquote all
in and being in the environment, being immersed in the
culture and in the faith. But it is you know,
there are some older studies, but graduating from a church
sponsored university is the number one predictor of long term
lifelong activity, even higher than a temple marriage or going
(06:41):
on a mission or even an eagle scout. Throw that
in as a little bit of a.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Joke, all you all you non eagle scouters. Most likely
I got my eagle scout.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I got my eagle scout and then the next day
the church announced they were pulling out. I literally next
day I got it.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeh, I'm proud you Brett.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Heck.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, Now, Ronnie for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
In Shytown, they do no eagle scout work, right. You
had to be h you had to be like a
boy scout, like you know, off of like Denzel Washington
type of boy scout.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
In Here's the thing is, I just didn't do the project.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, training.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I didn't do the project, but I will come to
find out. You could have done the project at any time.
You just had to get the marrior beet. So I
didn't know that. If I'd have known that out in
the project first. So I'm like, I gotta do all
this big project and senior year, I didn't care.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But yeah, to me, it speaks to I think solid
rejected data points of who you surround yourself. You will
become periodly like and so like you surround yourself with
high love of people with common themes, common you know,
common mindset. Uh this uh, you know, shround yourself with
greatness in our in our marriages like my wife who
(07:54):
lifts me up, raises me up. You're gonna become that
it absolutely and your network is is stronger, your your
your community is stronger, all these things. So I think
that's what to me, that's what it speaks to. And
why why it matters, and I hope they do. I
hope they see what they've invested more in pathways, and
(08:15):
I understand that that's what.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
They're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's more cost effective, more more uh uh uh, it's
fiscally minded, and it's more efficient than bringing in so
many pieces of human capital to a certain degree, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It takes forever to.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Get an FTE approved at b y U and then you.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's it's just very very difficult. But what what they have.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Been They have been slowly incrementally increasing the enrollment. It's
it's not been by leaps and bounds. I don't think
there are these huge plans to expand it. You know,
they're they're you know, they announced the medical school and
that you had an opportunity there. You know, which direction
do they go? And they I'm sure this has been
mapped out and planned out for for a long time.
But you know, if there was you know, to step
(09:04):
up the enrollment quite a bit, there was maybe an
opportunity there. But you know, they've gone towards this pathway
of doing a medical school and maybe maybe trying to
increase the research dollars and the reputation academically by having
an adjacent medical school.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I think the pitch too, And let me see what
you think about this. Like, the traditional methodology and thinking
of universities is to go hire professors that are trained
in a particular specialty. Right, they're academics, they're published, they're tenured,
they have this robust resume, And I'm like, I mean
(09:42):
you learned, you know, practical application of these tenets, these philosophies,
these concepts typically are better taught by those that have
practiced them in the real world. There are individuals like you.
I'll give you as I'm gonna put you up on
a pay for instance. Now you still have kids at home, right,
(10:02):
you know, but I guarantee you in a little bit
a few years down the future. It's like if BYU
had an opening for anatomy in physiology, right, whatever it
may be, right, Jeff Fuller is more than capable of
creating a curriculum around anatomy of physiology, and you would
probably take I have the degree.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, I have the resume and the degree, and I
could I could figure out.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Who wants to give back to BYU more than it's
a lum. I mean, you just went down there and
they have core competencies. You see Ryan Smith, is I
think teaching a class out at by. Yeah, those with
means and look at where they come from, and they
see the founds from which those blessings came want to
in turn give back. And you don't necessarily have to
(10:46):
pay them significant amount of money because some of them
are already miss off made and they just want to
give back and.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Make an impact that they're looking for a why.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
They're looking for a foundational why to give back and
mold the next generation, make an impact how they were
made an impact. And I do think sometimes you hire
the academic, the professor what I think they've realized over
the last ten years at BO, your last fifteen.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Sometimes they don't necessarily align with the.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Mission of the church because you get so far in
the data is the academic silence, the data is sound.
The more educated you are, the PhDs and the Da
da da da, and your your your basis, your your
identity as a professor as an academic is based off
of those things. The more maybe liberally minded you become,
(11:30):
and you maybe deviate a little bit from the traditional
conservative norms of the latter day save faith.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So I know.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That would be my Look, we're philosophizing it, we're getting
to a let's talk about But that would be my
pitch to the Brethren on expansion is you have so
many people that are willing and ready to lift where
they stand and be adjunct professors like they are, and
guess what those adjecti professors are going to be able
to connect with the students even better. They will because
(11:59):
they've practical application of it. Brett, you got to chime
in all this.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Yeah, So at bou Idaho, most of my professors I
went to b Oohiado for two years before I went
to bou Most of my professors at bou Idaho were
at junk professors in the communications program. So they either
owned a media business, or they had worked in the
industry for x men years, or they were currently working
in it. And honestly, as a student, I felt like
I learned so much more from somebody who was currently
(12:26):
working in the industry. They actually had real tangible knowledge
of what actually worked as a communicator.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
As a journalist is not theoretical exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Look this ethereal mindset of like the you know, the
fugazi fugazi out.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
There one of my favorite professors.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Some of my favorite professors at BYU were professors who
had also worked in the industry and then became a teacher.
On top of that, shout out to Melissa, she's incredible
at BYU.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't even know and I love it.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yes, there's so many incredible but to your point, like, look,
there's there's some classes in school that are just a
total waste of time, no better, respectfully, but the classes
that I love the most came from the teachers who
had actual tangible work experience that could tell me, Kay,
these things work. These things they'll teach you in a book,
but you don't actually use them once you get out there.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
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Speaker 6 (13:36):
Ronald last thing Uh no, yeah, I think and Sean
can attest this. My writing skills are very poor. When
I first started this, I got with Daniel Woodrew, who's
a news reporter who writes, my writing skills tremendously improved,
because why he writes, you have to have knowledge from that,
And I don't know. I look at it like this, like,
if you're going to become a lawyer or doctor, whatever,
you want to go learn from that particular person to
(13:57):
be in office with them, like you working, you know,
met good to ourselves. If I want to do that,
I will come learn from you. Sure that doesn't help you,
And I agree, Like I'm not trying to be rude,
but a lot of classes that I'm like, why am
I doing this? I need to go get experience. And
that's why I pitch the kids, go learn from someone
first and then take what you need to from these
classes because that will benefit you more. At least that's
what I saw. And I'm twenty eight and I graduated
a little bit older.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Love that great to inside from Ronald Jeff stick Around
Jeff Buller, a man of metrics, our favorite Vitrio retinal surgeon, ESPN,
the Fan contributor. He's done some fantastic pieces on on
TV Revenue distribution, ESPN, Fox, CBS. He goes into all
(14:38):
that Big twelve, taking the data that's available in the
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So check it out espnthfan dot com And coming up next,
we'll get into a Cougar Beat with Jackson Payne. And
(14:59):
one of the things I do want to bring up
is a stat that you, uh, you broached a little
bit on social media, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Make sure you're following Jeff Fuller JJ Fuller seventy two.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
On X the five Least Talented P four rosters per
two four seven b YU Iowa State, Indiana in Cincinnati
and wake Forest and wake Forest Crazy. So maybe we'll
delvi into that with Jackson paid at the Desert News
that coming up next. This is Cougar Sports one of
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Stats.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let's talk about stats. Been Cretinal and his team of
former players and insiders give you the latest stats, data
and analytics that are trending in the world of Cougar
sports stats.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome back on your sports one of three nine ninety
eight point three ESPN the Fan. I'm at Crital broadcasting
from our Banterwell studios, Banderwealth dot com. You need to
know your financial stats or football stats. If you need
financial stats for your financial future, Banterwealth, who is willing
and capable to support you to create sustainable and stable
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Get on a free Q and A today at Banterwealth.
Let's talk about stats. Let's talk about some numbers today
with a man of metrics, our favorite vitro retinal surgeon Optimologists.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
He's a dad of ten kiddos.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He lives in Alabama, but he's a big Brigham fan
and also just a fantastic human. Let's welcome in Jeff
Fuller to the show. Jeff, he's in studios, well, not
on the phone right now, one of our ESPN contributors
with all metrics, data, analytics, UH topics.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What's up Jeff, Yeah, great.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I love the intro. I don't know if I'm fully
deserving of all that, but but uh yeah, love love
being here and in provo and great to be with
you all in the flesh.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Ben also left out uncanny Tom Cruise look alike as well.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Exactly yes, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
And Tom Cruise look alike.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's my apologies, my apaulies, Jeff, I missed that one.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I saw the eyebrows raise when you no, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I had to do a double take.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm like, wait, well, yeah, you know there's some Tom
Cruise got a little bit of that same job.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey, that's why he's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Wife married him in the first place, you know, he's
like she she fell in love with Tom and top
gun and then married his look alike and the.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Future Viteo retinal surgeon. And Jeff, well, yeah, I took
a different tag.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
You know what they say, if I had a dollar
for every woman who found me unattractive, they'd eventually find
me attractive.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No doubt about it. Then.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
See, there's a concept there that I've delved into before.
Not to get too philosophical, but there's a natural I've
always said there's a natural man and there's a natural woman,
and they're two different things.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Security is key, exactly, that's true.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Financial, physical, and emotional security, all those securities the s
words of the natural woman. Anyway, b YU alumni stats here.
You were down at the alumni conference, the leadership conference
earlier today. Uh, And so we gotta get some insights there.
But ba alumni stats from the twenty twenty five Alumni
(02:37):
Leadership Conference four hundred and sixty five and forty total
living alumni. And what is fifty five percent is out
of state? Is out of state?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, absolutely, and that matches sort of the enrollment trends
over the last couple of decades. You know, the majority
of the of the student body is not Utah resident.
You know, it's by far the most common state of
of b YU students. But if you total everyone else
that's not from there, it's you know, Utah is a
(03:10):
relative minority, uh, compared to the total student body. And
and you know that's that makes total sense.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Right. It's a global faith.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It's a global you know, we talk about the brand
of b YU and the fan base, it's not you know,
it's not just here. It is you know, it's it
is it rivals Utah for the biggest brand in the
in the state, but outside the state, it's a it's
a whole different story, you know. That's that's where BYU
really shines and I think is interesting to to certain
media partners and certain certain other partners just because of
(03:41):
the of the reach beyond the state borders.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Does this include by Hawaii BYU Idaho graduates? This is
just made a provo yep, just b.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
YU, just just break them well, you know, I feel
like you know it's in no, it's like you can
add an additional.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, if you if you.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Two hund th fifty thousand more than that.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Oh yeah, when you want when you talk about pathways,
when you talk about I'm trying, I'm trying to remember
the total number is definitely like well over one hundred
thousand when you talk about current enrollment in pathways b
YU Idaho, you know BYU here in provo and by Hawaii.
So yeah, LDS Business College is still called that or
(04:23):
ENDSIGN College.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I think it is ENSIGN College now.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So yeah, it's the church values education and you know
a lot of that's why the the tuition is even
as a as a non LDS person, the tuition is
a great value coming to PROVOKEE and now the church
values it puts a lot of a lot of its
finances behind education and delivering great education.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No doubt about it. It's something we've discussed before. I
think you and I have discussed this a couple of
times in the off season comments and things that nature.
But I've always wanted more, more enrollment, right, more expansion
if we have to a certain degree unlimited resources and
education is a is just a primary focus of ours.
Why education well, education hopefully finds truth. Truth, Truth provides knowledge,
(05:14):
Knowledge provides I think spiritual enlightenment perspective that leads us
into the eternities from every book you should read, right,
there's all good books, right, all those things right, these principles,
So like, why not expand enrollment at b YU, Why
not engage aggressively and bringing in the best minds, bringing
(05:34):
in the best teachers, right, paying them a fair market
rate to do such? You know, in fair market you
know is you know, there's other benefits to being a
BYU outside of just monetary you know, monetary W two income,
et cetera. So we can all agree on that, I think,
But why not aggressively expand and be a little bit
(05:55):
more inclusive with our student body and who were pursuing
and who were who were educating within our faith, because
we do have some great data that says if you
go to BYU, you graduate, you are more likely to
stay active.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh yeah, you know what I mean, stay active in
the faith.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Maybe you get communal and be a part of reward
and be active in that regard.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah. Absolutely, you know, b YU by nature attracts people
who are who are interested in being quote unquote all
in and being in the environment, being immersed in the
culture and in the faith. But it is you know,
there are some older studies, but graduating from a church
sponsored university is the number one predictor of long term
lifelong activity, even higher than a temple marriage or going
(06:41):
on a mission or even an eagle scout. Throw that
in as a little bit of a.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Joke, all you all you non eagle scouters. Most likely
I got my eagle scout.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I got my eagle scout and then the next day
the church announced they were pulling out. I literally next
day I got it.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeh, I'm proud you Brett.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Heck.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, Now, Ronnie for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
In Shytown, they do no eagle scout work, right. You
had to be h you had to be like a
boy scout, like you know, off of like Denzel Washington
type of boy scout.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
In Here's the thing is, I just didn't do the project.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, training.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I didn't do the project, but I will come to
find out. You could have done the project at any time.
You just had to get the marrior beet. So I
didn't know that. If I'd have known that out in
the project first. So I'm like, I gotta do all
this big project and senior year, I didn't care.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But yeah, to me, it speaks to I think solid
rejected data points of who you surround yourself. You will
become periodly like and so like you surround yourself with
high love of people with common themes, common you know,
common mindset. Uh this uh, you know, shround yourself with
greatness in our in our marriages like my wife who
(07:54):
lifts me up, raises me up. You're gonna become that
it absolutely and your network is is stronger, your your
your community is stronger, all these things. So I think
that's what to me, that's what it speaks to. And
why why it matters, and I hope they do. I
hope they see what they've invested more in pathways, and
(08:15):
I understand that that's what.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
They're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's more cost effective, more more uh uh uh, it's
fiscally minded, and it's more efficient than bringing in so
many pieces of human capital to a certain degree, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It takes forever to.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Get an FTE approved at b y U and then you.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's it's just very very difficult. But what what they have.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Been They have been slowly incrementally increasing the enrollment. It's
it's not been by leaps and bounds. I don't think
there are these huge plans to expand it. You know,
they're they're you know, they announced the medical school and
that you had an opportunity there. You know, which direction
do they go? And they I'm sure this has been
mapped out and planned out for for a long time.
But you know, if there was you know, to step
(09:04):
up the enrollment quite a bit, there was maybe an
opportunity there. But you know, they've gone towards this pathway
of doing a medical school and maybe maybe trying to
increase the research dollars and the reputation academically by having
an adjacent medical school.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I think the pitch too, And let me see what
you think about this. Like, the traditional methodology and thinking
of universities is to go hire professors that are trained
in a particular specialty. Right, they're academics, they're published, they're tenured,
they have this robust resume, And I'm like, I mean
(09:42):
you learned, you know, practical application of these tenets, these philosophies,
these concepts typically are better taught by those that have
practiced them in the real world. There are individuals like you.
I'll give you as I'm gonna put you up on
a pay for instance. Now you still have kids at home, right,
(10:02):
you know, but I guarantee you in a little bit
a few years down the future. It's like if BYU
had an opening for anatomy in physiology, right, whatever it
may be, right, Jeff Fuller is more than capable of
creating a curriculum around anatomy of physiology, and you would
probably take I have the degree.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, I have the resume and the degree, and I
could I could figure out.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Who wants to give back to BYU more than it's
a lum. I mean, you just went down there and
they have core competencies. You see Ryan Smith, is I
think teaching a class out at by. Yeah, those with
means and look at where they come from, and they
see the founds from which those blessings came want to
in turn give back. And you don't necessarily have to
(10:46):
pay them significant amount of money because some of them
are already miss off made and they just want to
give back and.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Make an impact that they're looking for a why.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
They're looking for a foundational why to give back and
mold the next generation, make an impact how they were
made an impact. And I do think sometimes you hire
the academic, the professor what I think they've realized over
the last ten years at BO, your last fifteen.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Sometimes they don't necessarily align with the.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Mission of the church because you get so far in
the data is the academic silence, the data is sound.
The more educated you are, the PhDs and the Da
da da da, and your your your basis, your your
identity as a professor as an academic is based off
of those things. The more maybe liberally minded you become,
(11:30):
and you maybe deviate a little bit from the traditional
conservative norms of the latter day save faith.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So I know.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That would be my Look, we're philosophizing it, we're getting
to a let's talk about But that would be my
pitch to the Brethren on expansion is you have so
many people that are willing and ready to lift where
they stand and be adjunct professors like they are, and
guess what those adjecti professors are going to be able
to connect with the students even better. They will because
(11:59):
they've practical application of it. Brett, you got to chime
in all this.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Yeah, So at bou Idaho, most of my professors I
went to b Oohiado for two years before I went
to bou Most of my professors at bou Idaho were
at junk professors in the communications program. So they either
owned a media business, or they had worked in the
industry for x men years, or they were currently working
in it. And honestly, as a student, I felt like
I learned so much more from somebody who was currently
(12:26):
working in the industry. They actually had real tangible knowledge
of what actually worked as a communicator.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
As a journalist is not theoretical exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Look this ethereal mindset of like the you know, the
fugazi fugazi out.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
There one of my favorite professors.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Some of my favorite professors at BYU were professors who
had also worked in the industry and then became a teacher.
On top of that, shout out to Melissa, she's incredible
at BYU.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't even know and I love it.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yes, there's so many incredible but to your point, like, look,
there's there's some classes in school that are just a
total waste of time, no better, respectfully, but the classes
that I love the most came from the teachers who
had actual tangible work experience that could tell me, Kay,
these things work. These things they'll teach you in a book,
but you don't actually use them once you get out there.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
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Speaker 6 (13:36):
Ronald last thing Uh no, yeah, I think and Sean
can attest this. My writing skills are very poor. When
I first started this, I got with Daniel Woodrew, who's
a news reporter who writes, my writing skills tremendously improved,
because why he writes, you have to have knowledge from that,
And I don't know. I look at it like this, like,
if you're going to become a lawyer or doctor, whatever,
you want to go learn from that particular person to
(13:57):
be in office with them, like you working, you know,
met good to ourselves. If I want to do that,
I will come learn from you. Sure that doesn't help you,
And I agree, Like I'm not trying to be rude,
but a lot of classes that I'm like, why am
I doing this? I need to go get experience. And
that's why I pitch the kids, go learn from someone
first and then take what you need to from these
classes because that will benefit you more. At least that's
what I saw. And I'm twenty eight and I graduated
a little bit older.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Love that great to inside from Ronald Jeff stick Around
Jeff Buller, a man of metrics, our favorite Vitrio retinal surgeon, ESPN,
the Fan contributor. He's done some fantastic pieces on on
TV Revenue distribution, ESPN, Fox, CBS. He goes into all
(14:38):
that Big twelve, taking the data that's available in the
sports media space and then applying it and telling a
story behind it. That's objective and that's why I appreciate
Jeff being a part of our family and our team here.
So check it out espnthfan dot com And coming up next,
we'll get into a Cougar Beat with Jackson Payne. And
(14:59):
one of the things I do want to bring up
is a stat that you, uh, you broached a little
bit on social media, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Make sure you're following Jeff Fuller JJ Fuller seventy two.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
On X the five Least Talented P four rosters per
two four seven b YU Iowa State, Indiana in Cincinnati
and wake Forest and wake Forest Crazy. So maybe we'll
delvi into that with Jackson paid at the Desert News
that coming up next. This is Cougar Sports one of
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