September 6, 2025 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Or well formed Cougar Sports one O three nine ninety
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We'd love to chat with you. Love to get your prep.
Get you ready for this BYLEU Stanford matchup. It's a
beautiful day down here in Provo, Saturday, September sixth.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's four oh eight along the Wassat Front, partly cloudy.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's actually a little bit cool. Time at kickoff should
be around seventy three degrees. I think it's probably having
around eighty or so right now with the overcast. Stretch
wire is looking beautiful upon the Wassat Front and uh
Y Mountain, and I'm looking at the south side of
Lavelle Edwards Stadium. It's a It's a bya Cougar football
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team that beat probably the worst team in the college
football world, the FCS World, FBS World last week coming
in one and zero versus a Stanford team that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Lost to Hawaii on the road.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Week zero had a buy week and is looking for
a little bit of redemption here in Provo. All time record.
Stanford has two wins to BYUS one. I'm excited for
this game. I think it matters more than just a
just like a non conference game versus a P four team,
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I think it matters a whole lot more in the
recruiting game. You gotta look at the impact that this
could have. This win can have, A convincing win can
have on the recruiting of the recruitment of certain football
players that are always intrigued in their families, always intrigued
by a Stanford education, especially when they're winning on the gridiron.
So I think there's a lot to play for tonight. Obviously,
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Speaker 3 (03:32):
What's up, Roddy, What's up? That's how the kids call
it these days, That's what they do. I call it
something different. But then we are here week two, Week one,
what do we learn? We learned a lot, we didn't
learn a lot. I think it was both right. But
this is the opportunity. We mentioned it all week, We've
been talking about it. This is the opportunity. I mentioned
this yesterday on the show. If you want to continue
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to get the kids like ljbr and the nucytal Mabeys,
if you want to be able to continue when they
recruiting battle, get the bear.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Back Myers and talk Blaca Maris a transfer.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
This game is probably one of the most pivotal games
for recruiting for BYU going forward in the modern era.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You have to win this game.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You've lost to Stanford multiple times, and I think they'll
get it done tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There's a lot of good that will happen.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
There's a good chance for position groups to show up
and show out because when you're recruiting West Coast talent quarterbacks,
wide receiver, running back, offensive lineman, even safeties you lost
out to Stanford in the past, they've took players and
you've been able to get them if they've been coaching changes.
You don't want that to happen anymore. You want them
to commit to Byu and Kloney Sataki. So this game
there's a lot riding on it tonight, no doubt. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
My biggest thing is that that recruitment and the recruiting
pitchers you're gonna have when you're going head to head
versus Stanford. We've lost too many players over the years
to Stanford, both on the grid iron and on the
basketball court. You don't want that going forward. Frank Wright
comes in as the interim head coach in his first
year in his only year leading to Stanford Cardinal. He's
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alma mater, Maryland. He's an older guy, he's a tenured,
savvy vent of the National Football League. Good friends obviously
with Andrew Luck and Andrew's career as an NFL quarterback,
and Frank answered the call after Stanford had to let
go of Troy Taylor due to a variety of reasons,
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you could say, on and off the field issues that
they were struggling with in the Bay Area that they
were struggling with there at Stanford, and so Andrew luck
made a difficult decision to fire Troy Taylor right before springball. Okay,
not the idyllic scenario for any program coming off multiple
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three and nine seasons.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
This Stanford football.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Team is trending towards irrelevancy. And for BYU fans that
have monitored maybe the relationship between between the BYU as
an institution and it's football program and Stanford's institution and
it's football program, you're probably pretty happy about that if
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you've been monitoring the situation over the last twenty thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay, so this is a big game. I like bragging rights.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I get a little bit petty competitive with my sports
off the field and one way on the field, they
gotta be a little bit petty competitive, okay, and the
petty competitors coming out in me. It's been coming out,
you know, the entire week. If you've been tuning into
the show, you have to seal the deal. Put the
nail in the coffin. The Stamford Cardinal is a part
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of the ACC conference.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Acc Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They hung on, okay, by the skin of their teeth,
to just have some sort of like rebound from the
PAC twelve.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Destruction. The PAC twelve just.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Falling apart due to hubrisk, their pompous nature, their ability
or inability not to see the future. When you elevate yourself,
when you say you're better than you really are, you're
more valuable than you really are. It's crazy how the
free market, how you know, you mess around and you
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find out just how valuable you are.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And they messed around.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
The PAC twelve messed around, and they found out just
how valuable they really were. And now look at the pieces,
look at where they all fell. And the Stafford Cardinals
are part of the ACC. Like I said, there are
so many things that are pushing Stanford Athletics, and in
particular I would say ball and basketball into irrelevancy, and
by you need to be the team, okay, one of
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the teams to put that nail in the coffin to say, look,
you're gonna be irrelevant. Your fan base doesn't care about you.
No one cares to watch you on TV, no one
cares to purchase tickets, and no one cares to rep
Stamford football. Why would you want to go to Stanford
when you can get just as good of an education,
you get a better network here at BYU, you have
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better earning potential long term, and you have better nil deals.
That's what you want to be able to pitch to
all of these families that are flirtatious with the Stanford
cardinal and the recruiting race. In A win on the
grid iron will allow you to do that two consecutive
wins in fact, because you have beat Stamford at Stanford
in twenty twenty two and it was a solid victory. Okay,
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it was a great win and you did it I
think in a way that was pretty dominant even though
the score is something like thirty five to twenty seven.
So you want to send Frank Reich Andrew Luck home
with a nice, big fat l in week two. Now,
Head coach Kalani Sataki's in this tenth year graduated from
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Brigham Young University. This is his his school, his mission,
his dream, This was his dream to become the head
coach and finally Kilani has I believe the resources, the personnel,
and the coaching staff to booy him up and bring
Brigham into a dominant era of BYU football.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It could be a special era.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
In fact, you look at twenty twenty, twenty twenty one
double digit win seasons, twenty twenty two a little bit
of a drop up at an eight win season.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
First year of the Big Twelve. You didn't go to
a bowl game, but you.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Were close those last two games Oklahoma Oklohma State.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You saw the potential.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You saw the potential of this team under Killane in
the Big Twelve, and then last year overachieving getting to
eleven wins and just two losses, capping off the season
with a marvelous ball Victor River, Shooter, Sanders Prime, and
of course Travis Hunter, the Heisman Trophy winner. Kialate is
seventy three and forty three all time. Okay, that's not
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too shabby being a head coach in college football. I
can't believe it's already been nine years and we're going
into the tenth year. By the way, BYU is a
heavy favorite in this game. The spread is twenty and
a half. I believe last time I checked the over
under forty four and a half FPI prediction gives BYU
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an eighty nine point two percent chance of victory. Sp
plus Bill Connley his metric. It's part of the ESPN
Metric network. He stated in his preview that he thinks
it could be even a bigger blowout than twenty one points.
That's what his data says, that's what his analytics say. Now,
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the coaching staff Kilane and a Rod Jay Hill, you
have to be able to tell the story of motivation.
You have to be able to pitch the team, you know,
a certain sense of fear, not fear, but like you know,
you have to have a sense of urgency. You can't
get completion, you can't get you know, overly confident. It
can't have a little bit of the pride cycle. You
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gotta stay humble, stay hungry, and on the grind. So, Ronnie,
what's the story that Kialani A rodding J Hill K
Pop told this Cougar football team all week long in
preparation for the Stanford Cardinal coming into Provo.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, I think the biggest thing is, you know, uh,
you can't overlook anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's the big thing.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
If you do some of the distracted because I'm told
our video sound is not there. I'm going to pass
it to AP. Why get focused back on this, Ben,
because I'm not getting any sound coming through.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Okay, AP, what do you what do you make what
stories being told from the coaching staff to the players
in the locker room to keep them humble, hungry, motivated,
a sense of urgency, and to come out and execute
at a high level under the lights of avel once again.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Well, I think tonight they're just saying, make this a
business trip. This doesn't like I know that Bay and
Stanford we've had some off the field issues, as has
been documented earlier this week on the show. The band
from Stanford has not exactly been kind to be white.
There's been some controversy between the two programs, and so
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you can make things emotional. But I think they're going, hey,
let's make this a business trip. This is going to
be a transactional game where we're gonna go in handle business.
And I think the more you keep emotion, making things
emotional out of it, the higher level of execution you
can have. You know, I this is kind of a
weird analogy, but one time I heard a surgeon he
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was asked how he can handle like all these situations
coming in, like he's had some some awful surgeries he's
had to do. It's like, how do you handle like
doing this to another human like seeing them coming He goes,
I don't. I don't look at them like I don't
look at them with any level of emotion. I don't
view them as another human being, like this is an
object I need to fix. Until the surgery is over,
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then they're a human, Like I can view them as
a human. I can go, wow, we did a good job.
We've We've done a good thing. And so he's able
to keep his emotion out of the procedure, and he
does a good job. Adding emotion to procedure like that,
you might mess a few things up. And I think
you need to view this football game tonight the same way.
Don't put a like obviously, you play with the normal
emotions you do during a football game.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
This is a business trip. You go in, you execute,
you execute like a business trip.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Don't make this overly emotional between you know, the Bear
Bach Mater, the Tiger Black Mater.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
This is your former team, LJ.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Martin, this is your former the team you committed to
don't get too emotional, keep a levelhead, make this a
business trip, go out and execute like any other football game.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, I think there's a there's something to be said
about that. You can go one of two ways. You
can try to engage in some sort of emotional catalyst
of the past. What has this game been like in
the past. What has occurred in this game in the past.
There's only been three games. There's not a whole lot
of rivalry. Okay, there is a rivalry, I guess in
the recruiting though, you would say, you could say, look,
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these are this is a team that has targeted recruited
at a high rate with intentionality the LDS athlete and
I can go down the list of guys that they
have brought in, you know, from the state of Utah
or from you know they're they're members of the Church
of Christ of latterday Saints Dallas Lloyd pleasant Grove, Brandon Fanika,
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Pleasant Grove, Simme Fooco, Brighton, Dalton Chuls played at Binghamshony movie.
I believe it was a Brighton Tanna McKee. Okay, he
was out of California, Blue Corona, Lean Veach, Levanni de Mooney,
who's now at Utah right, but he went to Stanford
initially low at KALFUSI gave reed out of tim few.
Taysom Hill was a commit to Stamford. Luckily, when he
came back off his mission serving the Lord with all
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his heart my mind as straight, Stanford didn't have a
scholarship for him, and Lobhole b Yu was on point
with him, said hey, we'd like to have you, and
you got him right. Sean Barton, Grey Clark, Mark Harris,
John Mage, Uh, Scotty Edwards is on the team right now,
Bot Steve Taits's son. You know, these are Lds guys
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that you know would would definitely add depth and possibly
starting potential. Scotty's gonna be starting at safety for the
for the Cardinal tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And we missed out on Scotty. I really liked him.
I interviewed him on the show.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I thought he would be a perfect fit for this
BYU Cougar football team, whether it was the ed Lambalyisa
defense as a free safety or in the J Hill
defense as a free or strong safety. Scotty's gonna be
starting for him, and shoot, I'm not even talking about
the basketball court. Mark Madson should have been at b YU.
You know what I mean, Well, shout out to Rick
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rich Jackson. Doctor rich Jackson, he should have been at
b YU as well. He's a star here in Provo.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I go down the list, Casey Jacobs and Nick Robinson,
the former b YU SITS coach. You don't want to
miss on the high level ld S athlete that values education,
that values you know, that temporal well being, long term.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You gotta be able to make that pitch, you gotta
be able to swim.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And this is one of those games, Okay, this is
one of those games where if it's a dominating victory,
right and there's there's not even any sort of equivalency
of parody between personnel, execution, scheme, the crowd.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Are you kidding me? Like it's not even close, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Tiger Bachmeier said earlier this this week, I think in
an interview something to the effect of, like I finally
have people cheering for me in my home stadium.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And it was an FCS game. It wasn't even a
big game. But no disrespect for Portland State, but that's.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Not a big game. That's just not It's not a
big game.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So it's like you got to be able to make
these pitches, these temporal pitches that are you gotta be
able to provide the return on investment for a commitment.
And and this is one of those things you can
do when you're competing at Stanford in the years to come.
You send them highlights of twenty twenty two versus Stamford
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at Stanford. Do you send them b YU versus Stanford
at home highlights in twenty twenty five. That's that's a key,
that's a that's an imperative. That's what I'm talking about.
As far as a rivalry is concerned. Well, yeah, I
think it's also in the fan. But there's a lot
of fans that do not like Stanford. I talked to
several of this week. They have a severe dislike for Stanford.
Why don't and it goes back to the PAC twelve
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excluding pay It's a very.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Popular belief I think within the program at b YU
and within the fan base that Stanford is one of
those institutions that actively tried to keep BYU out of
the big the Power five. Yes, and so there's like
there's a an add in the incidents that have happened
every time we visit stand. There is no land like
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there's a There's a lot of fans who have some respect,
but there is a lot of fans who severely dislike
this program. It's there's not a lot of good feelings
from what I've seen between the casual BYU fan and Stanford.
There's not a lot of history on the ball field,
but off the field there's a lot going on there.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
On September September thirteen, two thousand and four, athletic director
Ted Leland had to apologize to bring him Young University
and his fans for the halftime show by the Cardinal
Band that poked fun at polygamy with five dancers.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Wearing wedding veils.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Apparently, Stamford went on to beat b Why thirty seven
to ten on that Saturday. So not only do they
get a shot, you know from a religious stampover, they
also gave him up a big fat l on the
way back to Provo. So your pride in multiple facets
of your life were a little bit a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Pervert, you know what I mean? Like, that's that's not
very nice.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Leland said he would meet with the band to discuss
possible sanctions. The actions of the Stanford band in Saturday's
game were inappropriate. I wish to apologize to BYU, their team,
fans and alumni. We are committed to being good hosts
to our opponents who visit Stanford in Anything that doesn't
reflect this is regrettable. Furthermore, in twenty twenty two, it
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happened again. The Cardinal band went out on the in
the on the halftime. During the halftime on the field,
it took another shot at the faith.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Ye can we get a lavel band for the Stanford band?
Oh my gosh, what do you mean the band is
gonna get boo ban? You know, like I didn't ask.
I ask yu fans. Are we allowed to boot?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
If if the Cardinal brings their band and they have
the tree out there, can we boo him?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah? People can boo. The only thing they're gonna is
Utah gonna get I think we should save it for for.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But here's the difference.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Utah, the team itself when it comes out, will be
booed from start to finish. You're talking about specifically the band.
We're not saying boot Stanford players, staff members, specifically the
Stanford guessed him, I.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Want everyone to get ice cream minus the band. Everybody
get ice get you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
This is where look, I know we're supposed to turn
the other cheeks another cheek to knight.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Lam said, we should be peacemakers. Saw.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I think it's perfectly coachy to at least boo the
Cardinal band and say the history between you and our
fan base.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
A few weeks ago, we let our mountain on fire
to show that we have no care for a Cardinal.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
We're gonna light that tree on fire. They're gonna light
that tree on fire.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I like that Smoky the bear out of town. I
hope only you can get a call for going off
on this dietro. We're gonna get cougarnation. You know, deep
down in your plums, in your loins, you know, I'm
right feel in your heart, in your in your mind
and your loins. You know there's a little bit of
pettingis you're like, you don't like it that they they
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they've done these things, but you lost respect.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You just can't do that like that. That's what's the difference.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Why you gotta get it back on the football get back?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
How important would that be?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You win?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You cover you covered this. Here's the thing. I'll make
a hot take right.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
B YU covers the spread and or puts a really
a big beating to Stanford tonight, and NIF's the recruiting
battle forever. Now, sure you might got some guys in
state that still might go to Stanford, but as far
as LDS talent, local talent, all of that, that puts
that to the bed. This game has so much recruiting
hot on it. What's the message that Colony said? Colone's
telling us, you know, hey, it's week two. We gotta
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go to and oh one and oh Humble, but you
gotta get b A your social media. Their team a
lot of credit. They've dropped a lot last season about
what goes on in that locker room.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And I promise you what goes on in that locker
room is something on alongs of lines like this. Do
you see this? Do you see how they disrespecting us?
Do do? They don't know? But do you think that
there's not competitive petty in that locker room? Colonie says
all the right things to us. I don't think anything
like that's happened.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, I don't know, Seaton, No, no, no, no, no, yes,
media members, I believe a little bit more petty.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Colonie's not showing Look, I think you know.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I think Klan behind the scenes, not in front of
our face. There's no saying we gotta go kick the.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Stoyklane's way to Christ like I've been coached by him,
like I've seen him up close and personal.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know, I know Clie he would not bring up
any of this stuff. But no, no, no, no, no
no no.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'm not saying there's no petty, as you pointed out,
but she still gotta go of his mind.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I think he's started of Stanford coming into getting recruits,
no doubt, no no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And he's not sitting it to players because player shouldn't
be focused on that. But in the back of his mind,
his message been to them is about that. There is
a competitive nature about that. Here's why I'll push back
of you Kilani. Last year, how many times took shots
at us in immediates. Some people said we weren't aggressive,
Like he hears the stuff. I don't think he's saying
it to players, no should he. But there's a motivation,
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you know, because media can be a little but there
is a but there's a motivation out there to go
improve something tonight, and I think all of that's internal
and they should keep that in their locker room. But
these the guys that are going to be fired up tonight.
There's it's personal tonight with Stanford based on how that
BYU hasn't been able to maybe perform in.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
The past, and the recruits.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And if you go out and win, and you get
a victory, you get a dub, you cover the spread,
you go and dominate, that puts that notion to bed.
You won't have the Cialius Harris thinking about even Stanford,
you won't have them. You won't have the LJ. Martins Committee.
They'll just look at BYU and say, this is the place,
this is the P four school. And quite frankly we
mentioned it. Will Stafford even have a football program in
the next five to ten years, No one knows.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
But this game has a lot riding on that.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I think the message that has been conveyed.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
We proved nothing last week. We beat SCS team.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Obviously those in the poll thought that let's go beating
out a P four opponent two and zero before.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
We go into the buy.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I want Stanford to lose so badly that they do
like just say internally, why do we even have.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
A football program?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It might be that time let's retire this thing and
let's focus on rowing, underwater, basket weaving, Olympic sports, whatever
it is you know that they want to do. But football,
we don't need to be a football school anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Look at the irrelevancy here.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
They're part of the acc like I said, by the
skin of their teeth, three and nine, since twenty twenty one,
three and nine, twenty twenty two, three and nine, twenty
twenty three, three and nine, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Four, four straight seasons of three and nine.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Before that, they did have a COVID year where they
went four and two because somehow science concluded mid season
that it was safe to play football.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
All of a sudden, science changed mid season when they
were just losing a ton of money and going even
further into irrelevancy.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, science of your bank account, it's.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
The science of the filthy luker finally turned the tide
twenty nineteen though, four and eight, So, like I said,
be the catalysts, okay, to push them off the cliff
into irrelevancy, so we don't have to compete against them
anymore on the recruiting. On the recruiting side of things,
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one last thing before we go to break And I
pulled this up because I couldn't remember all the details,
But Jackson Payne actually wrote a piece about this because
he was I think at the game.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
A halftime performance during BYU.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Football's visit to standards Saturday Night is causing a stir
caused a stir on social media for its content lampooning
Latterday Saint believes the Stanford band staged a skit titled
gay Chicken Okay, which involved a pair of women being
married to each other, with the officiator using terms and
phrases taken from sacred temple ceremonies within the Church of
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Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints. That's what happened on the
football field by the band there officially stays.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
A bit like an get a lavel band for the band.
I mean, come on, guys, I mean really, I mean
that's how look.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I know, I I know, maybe a little bit far
fetched to believe that an entire institution feels completely okay
with throwing your religious sacred beliefs, you know, into kind
of this.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Disrespectful theater.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, theatric you know, event like, But I wouldn't be
surprised knowing what has occurred over the last three four
decades is BYU football kind of took over that they
became a Cinderella eighties, nineties, two thousands, Right, ESPN loved BYU.
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And and look Lavell. Everyone loved Lavell in college football.
A lot of the coaches in colleg football respected in
love Lavelle. But the institutions, the administration, the athletic directors
love BYU. The coaches love BYU. Right, ESPN loves BYU.
But you know who didn't love BYU. All of these
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institutions of higher learning that you know us, you know,
they would cite you know this, you know byus or
even the lattery Saint faith as being prejudice, and then
they would in turn say, well, we don't want you
a part of our institutions, and we don't want you
a part of our conference. And then they would then
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in turn exercise religious bigotry to limit you from getting
it in. Finally, finally, finally, Texas and Oklahoma left the
Big twelve yep, and went over to the SEC. And
that opened up the opportunity for BYU and all the
best resume in college football as it pertains to the
available institutions athletic departments that were available.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
They got the call up.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Bob Bowlesby called by and said, look, we want you,
We need you be a part of our big twelve family.
And Brett yor Mark has been happy that that happened.
Now we got to win against the ACC.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Ball out Brigham. We're gonna continue to break down this game.
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YU A heavy favorite.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Twenty and a half is the spread over under at
forty four and a half.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And I think most of the pundits handlers out there, experts,
the college football insiders, believe there's going to be a
convincing victory.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Had experience pro vote.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Tonight, and I hope so I really do get me
out in front of this BYU Cougar football team to
tell them a story about how important this game is,
not only for this season, but for seasons to come
and recruiting to come, and just the.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
History of BYU and Stanford.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Like, let me tell them a story all about how
BYU Cougar Football's world got flipped upside down.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'd like to take a minute to sit right there.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm gonna tell you how b why you got stiff
armed from joining the packed eight PAC twelve PAC ten. Okay,
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the sports here in the state of Utah. Let me
break down a few things here as it pretenses. BYU
Stanford matchup b YA and Stanford a meeting for the
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fourth time. I'm in the series Cardinals. The Cardinal leads
two to one, with the Cougars getting the first win.
In the last meeting in twenty twenty two, BYU won
thirty five to twenty six behind three hundred and fifty
eight rushing yards in that game, including one hundred and
sixty four from running back Chris Brooks.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
He bowled out in that game. It was tremendous.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Quarterback Jaron Hall threw two touchdowns and roots to the
victory on the road. The last time the two schools
met in Provo was two thousand and three. Stamford won
eighteen to fourteen in what was BYU quarterback John becks
first start as a true freshman.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
That's pretty crazy. That's crazy about that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And the supporting cash around John was not nearly what
the supporting cast is surrounding Bear Bachmeyer. Okay, the depth
the talent, There was a lot of young talent in
that two thousand and three football roster, but they were
coming along in two thousand and five, in two thousand
and six, and eventually two thousand and seven, we saw the.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Rewards of all that recruiting that Gary did.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
We big Cougar, wrote Gary Croton as he was rebuilding
after the two thousand and one season, and you know it,
just you know, BYU just wasn't good in O two
three to oh four. Just couldn't get over the hunt,
couldn't win the close games. And the defense was also
a little bit I would say inconsistent, But a.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Lot of young talent there.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So that was the last time, Okay, BYU welcome Stamford
to Lavelle's house. And now by using year three of
the Big twelve Boya began his third season the Big
Twelve Conference, after taking a big leap in year two
to compete for a league title. After a five and
seven overall finish in twenty twenty three and two and
seven marking Big Twelve Play, the Cougars flipped the script
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in twenty twenty four by going eleven to two and
seven to two and Big twelve in Big Twelve Play.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It was fantastic, It was awesome, It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I won a lot of one score games and you
lost two of those one score games, and it was unfortunate.
But man, what a season it was year two in
the Big Twelve. And you knew of the potential, right,
you knew what was what this Cougar football team was
capable of. So can't wait to see what happens in
this BYU stand game. And let me give you a
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little nugget here going back, piggybacking off of the commentary
I had in the first segment about how important this
game is for not only this year, yes, it's important
this year, but for the future. Right, And I gave
you the history of this BYU Stamford relationship.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It has not always been good.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
It historically hasn't been good as I've mentioned before athletic
directors have typically liked BYU and they always want to
schedule them administrators, the erudites of the Institution of Higher Learning.
They want to stiff arm Brigham. That's how it's always
been for a long time, and that's why the Big
twelve was actually the best place for BYU, not the
former Pack eight, PAC ten, Pac.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Twelve, quite honestly, and it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
But Stamford took advantage of BYU when they were at
their weakest. They were BYU in two thousand and one
had a great season and a double digit win season,
twelve win season, Doak Walker reward. Brandon Doman got drafted
like there was a lot of NFL talent too young, inexperienced, struggled.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Oh three is when you face Stafford the first time.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Okay, Oh four is the second time you face Stafford,
and Stanford beat you both times.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And not like those those Stafford teams.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
We were amazing teams by any mean, they were good, right,
but you lost to them.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Unfortunately, you lost to them.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
And that was when BYU was at its weakest in
the in the modern era from nineteen seventy two one, right,
BYU has been winning eight games a season, and they've
been consistent in those efforts. They've been consistent in that
In that that execution oh three to oh four, I
mean we were we were not who we are today.
And now you're seeing the inverse. They took advantage of
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BYU at its weakest and O three and oh four.
Now b YU needs to take advantage of Stanford when
it's at its weakest. Point four consecutive seasons, three and
nine seasons. They have an interim head coach, Frank Right,
They got an interim head coach. He's not even gonna
be there for more than a year. Andrew luck is
trying his best to rebuild this program as the general manager.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
They haven't they had.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
The one thing they have going from is they've recruited
decently over the last four to five years during this
stretch because of their academic prowess, their academic standards, because
of the long term earning potential and network that they
have within the Stanford family. But I think we're getting
to a point where BYU, okay, from an academic standpoint,
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from a long term earning potential standpoint, from a networking standpoint, okay,
socio economics matter. And then from a productivity on the
football field and having an opportunity to play in the
National Football League.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think BYU is right there to make a pitch.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And if you beat Stamford tonight convincingly, I think it's
gonna be a whole lot more difficult for Stanford to
recruit in their rebuild mode. The modern day LDS recruit
that's looking for the holistic best opportunity in all facets
of their lives.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
And and and look, guess what. Lance Anderson is no
longer at Stamford. He's not there. There's now at Tech.
And guess what Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
If you want to if you want to throw a
dart at somebody, and you know, have a little hate
towards somebody, Jim Harbaugh brought Lance Anderson LDS coach recruiting coordinator,
became the DC at Stanford. He brought him to University
of San Diego, Okay to coach football.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Once upon a time, Ed Lamb was on that staff.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
By the way, shout out to Ed Lamb, former BA linebacker,
Little nugget there for you. Then Harbaugh took the job
at at Stamford. After that, after a couple of years
at San Diego, and with that move brought Lance Anderson,
and Lance was over recruiting. And guess what happened in
seven oh wait, Lance started coming into the state of
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Utah and targeting the high level LDS recruit and you
saw him a target in the Greater Mountain region on
the West coach all those LDS recruits.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And you see time and time again him win, win
in a high level and bring him in.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So luckily in twenty twenty two, b what you went
out to Stanford and Shaw was kind of on the
ropes Coach Shaw and he he literally Coach Shaw retired,
stepped down, resigned retirement after that loss to BYU in
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
So you got Stamford on the ropes, you know what
I mean, You got him on the roade.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
He's swaying, you know the Cardinals. You know, just he's battered, bruised.
Right now, you have to step on the throat. Get
me this opportunity to talk to this Cougar football team.
You know, I'll be the pregame speech with you, you
know what I mean, I'll be the the the order
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to to tell you the story about how important this
game is I'll.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Say my biggest fear tonight is that Bear Bachmeier is
doing what I'm doing is getting a little it's getting
a little personal.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You know, you just want to be business. I want
Bear Bakmer to be the classically.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Every time Jaron Hall would step up to the podium,
he's like, it's a business trip, it's business, and he
was just like, I'm at the office, you know, another
day in the office, you know, And that's that's.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Dude, I need from Bear Bachmer.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
If Bear Bachmer takes this personally and it's an emotional game,
you may see a few errant throws that that result
in turnovers.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
There's a couple throws last week at the beginning. I
was like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
He settled in nicely, but man, this could if this
could be a game where Bear if he takes things personally,
it could be some there could be some learning moments.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Well, I think with that, you have to look at
last week of right, it comes down to the DM
or decision making, and people are gonna feel like all
season long, I'm taking a shot at the former quarterback
Jake There was no throw last week where I'm like,
that was a bad decision. The throat just wasn't executed,
whether due to MCA or too much on it or
too much underneath it. That's where I think your point
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could be true that if he makes bad decisions. I
didn't see Bear make a bad decision last week. I
just didn't see him execu to throw. And I think
that's what gets you in trouble in these games that
could be personal, is if you start to make bad decisions.
He didn't throw on triple coverage, he didn't throw where
he didn't need to throw. He took the right moments,
he took the right shots. It's just can't he make that?
But that's on his mind for sure. He knows he's
gonna get asked that question the post game been if
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they win. He knows that Tiger's gonna get asked that.
There's nothing doubt about it. And I think the boy
you knows that too, right, and everything will this will
tell me.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
What everything I need to know. If it's a little
bit personal.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
If I see a heavy doses to Tiger Bachmeyer tonight,
that will tell me a lot of what I need
to know in regards If it's personal because you got
Chase on the case, you got Parker, you got Jojo.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I don't think there's anything that you can't look at
the roster. The roster itself is not gonna have anything
personal to say. I mean, Bear and Tiger maybe, but
they had a great experience. They said nothing but great
things about.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Samson their experience. So there's no just no bad bloof
between you. But there's a competitive nature like oh, I
want to be my former team.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, yeah, I get that. I don't think there's any
bad blood between roster, the b A roster and the
Stanford roster or anyone associated with it. I think that's
why you got to tell the story. You gotta you
gotta be willing and capable to tell the story. And uh,
I think for fans they realize it because you know,
they they keep track of these things. Whereas in the
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the roster and even the coaching staff to a certain degree,
the you know, who would tell the story, who has
a little bit of like this petty Kyle Whittingham feel
to him. J Hill, Jill Jay you know so Jay
Jay made an interesting comment to me at the golf tournament.
Uh this offseason, Okay, Like I was talking to him
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about what what what would you say?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
It was at the end of the interview.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
What would you say, words of advice to the fan base?
How can they get involved anything?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I just leked it open ended.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
He said, these guys that b b Yu, you follow
them on Twitter, like when they're getting recruitted, great, follow them,
like them, retweet them, love them up. When they leave
b Yu, drop them, drop them and booted he said,
drop them. He did drop them them. Do not follow them,
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do not like their tweetspe you know, not once a cougar,
always a cougar.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Like he didn't say that, but like.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
And b why you you you never were a cougar,
So don't follow them. That's what That's what I'm saying.
But like and and I think, you know, you can
go one of two ways with it. I do think
like you, like, there's reasons why guys transfer, there's a
reason reasons why young men don't come to be why
you the first go around, but they sometimes come around
the second time. Had you been a little bit petty
when when Pooka went to Washington, do you get them
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back right or do you kind of keep those that communication?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Oh, it's like the.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Plans, hey cut it off. So like I think Jay
is a little bit more petty in that.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Regardless, Well, to your point with telling a story, it's
like a couple of times when BYU would play Wyoming.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
The last few times you.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Had to tell a story because there's a history between
the two programs, but it's been so long that nobody remembers.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
No one on the roster remembers.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
I mean, Ben knows because Ben played him when it
was personal in the Mountain West. But and I'll just
say that I have a deep dislike for what probably
they are players.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Don't know any history behind any of these sims. Let's
they grew up a particular fan of a particular team.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
But it's like there's certain programs that when they come in,
there's just there's just been so much time between what's
happened between the two programs that you need to tell
a little story to get a little bit of a
and like just to kind of get them riled up
a little bit, not so much that they lose focus,
but you need them to.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Be fired up, you know. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Earlier this week in preparation here for the Stanford matchup,
Stanford head coach Frank Reich said, this is a good
football program.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I think they do it right.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
They do a good job of recruiting the players that
they have that fit their schemes. So we have a
lot of respect for them. Klani said this about his
team in Stanford and Stanford Rick. Those guys know how
to get a team ready. There's good talent on that team.
We respect them. We recruited a bunch of those guys too.
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We have to make sure that we're on top of
our game when it comes to getting ready for this one.
And and so yeah, I think that's an intriguing, intriguing
point here, Colonie is like, we recruited a bunch of
those guys, a bunch of those guys that are on
the roster. So once again, the importance of this game
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is as much, you know, on the field as it
is off the field. In order to secure that pipeline
of high academic high achievers off the field, the families
that think that Stanford provides a better foundational platform for
long term earning potential and education, Okay, it shouldn't anymore.
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You gotta be able to make that pitch, and and
and and you can do that by seating also the
doubt of like, wow, like look at how far Stanford's
football program is from being a BYU football program. A
twenty one point victory, a dominating victory tonight just allows
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for more leverage when you're making that pitch, like, hey,
let's pull up twenty twenty two, twenty twenty five film
of this BYU Stanford game. You know, when you're recruiting
it for the twenty twenty seven class, the twenty twenty
eight class, et cetera. And I would love to continue
to schedule Stanford because that's an easy P four dub
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as long as they are in the ACC and they're
traveling and they're geographically just in the void, their geographically
in purgatory. They are like they're in P four purgatory.
They're really not a part of the ACC. They are
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maybe I don't even know if they're getting a full
share of media rights.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I don't know if they are. They have to be
bleeding everywhere.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
And Andrews trying to find somebody willing to take the
head coaching job at Stanford, because I guarantee you you
talk to if any one of these coaches, okay, gets
on the line, with coach Shaw, gets on the line
with coach Coach Harbaugh, gets on the line with coach
Lance Anderson. Any one of the former coaches, what are
they going to say about their Stanford experience. Hey, it
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was good for you know, these years, but now it's
a lot tougher because X, Y, and Z, because of
the silos that typically you know, schools that don't value sports.
If they only value academics and they value the government
subsidies that boowye up their quest for in truth and
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publish data that comes out of their university, right, if
they only value that and they put they stiff farm
the athletic program to a degree, then you're gonna feel
like that redheaded step child. You can always feel like
you're you're fighting, kicking against the pricks, trying to figure
out a way. And so I think now's the time
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nailing the coffin step on the throat. You gotta push
them off the cliff into a relevancy. Four consecutive, three
nine seasons, they're part of the ACC For the love
of Pete. They have an interim head coach, Frank Reich,
who's gone after this year. Most likely Andrew luck is
trying to call people all the time trying to acquire
good coaching talent.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Can he do it?
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Not? If they end up calling Sean Harbaugh and Lance
Anderson say hey, what would you do?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
All of them? You know what they're gonna say. They're
gonna say, Ah, I wouldn't take that job.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
That's a tough job to win. That's a tough place
to play. You don't have any fan engagement. Your donors
don't care about really engaging with the players a whole lot.
You have very few advocates within the institution. Now's the time,
Like I said, by you got took an advantage of
by Stanford when they were at their weakest. Now it's
not for by you take advantage at as Stanford's at
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their weakest point. Guys, we're at our tailgate, getting your prep,
getting ready for the BYU Stamford matchup.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
It's gonna be a glorious evening. There's a little wind.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Coming from the north, from the north, I think west here,
and so it could be a little bit breezy tonight,
little cloud coverage here. It's cooling down as we speak,
a little partly cloudy, and I'm starting to see the
leaves change down here in provo.
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What's up, Roddy, What's up? That's how the kids call
it these days, That's what they do. I call it
something different. But then we are here week two, Week one,
what do we learn? We learned a lot, we didn't
learn a lot. I think it was both right. But
this is the opportunity. We mentioned it all week, We've
been talking about it. This is the opportunity. I mentioned
this yesterday on the show. If you want to continue
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to get the kids like ljbr and the nucytal Mabeys,
if you want to be able to continue when they
recruiting battle, get the bear.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Back Myers and talk Blaca Maris a transfer.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
This game is probably one of the most pivotal games
for recruiting for BYU going forward in the modern era.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You have to win this game.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You've lost to Stanford multiple times, and I think they'll
get it done tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
There's a lot of good that will happen.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
There's a good chance for position groups to show up
and show out because when you're recruiting West Coast talent quarterbacks,
wide receiver, running back, offensive lineman, even safeties you lost
out to Stanford in the past, they've took players and
you've been able to get them if they've been coaching changes.
You don't want that to happen anymore. You want them
to commit to Byu and Kloney Sataki. So this game
there's a lot riding on it tonight, no doubt. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
My biggest thing is that that recruitment and the recruiting
pitchers you're gonna have when you're going head to head
versus Stanford. We've lost too many players over the years
to Stanford, both on the grid iron and on the
basketball court. You don't want that going forward. Frank Wright
comes in as the interim head coach in his first
year in his only year leading to Stanford Cardinal. He's
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alma mater, Maryland. He's an older guy, he's a tenured,
savvy vent of the National Football League. Good friends obviously
with Andrew Luck and Andrew's career as an NFL quarterback,
and Frank answered the call after Stanford had to let
go of Troy Taylor due to a variety of reasons,
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you could say, on and off the field issues that
they were struggling with in the Bay Area that they
were struggling with there at Stanford, and so Andrew luck
made a difficult decision to fire Troy Taylor right before springball. Okay,
not the idyllic scenario for any program coming off multiple
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three and nine seasons.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
This Stanford football.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Team is trending towards irrelevancy. And for BYU fans that
have monitored maybe the relationship between between the BYU as
an institution and it's football program and Stanford's institution and
it's football program, you're probably pretty happy about that if
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you've been monitoring the situation over the last twenty thirty years.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay, so this is a big game. I like bragging rights.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I get a little bit petty competitive with my sports
off the field and one way on the field, they
gotta be a little bit petty competitive, okay, and the
petty competitors coming out in me. It's been coming out,
you know, the entire week. If you've been tuning into
the show, you have to seal the deal. Put the
nail in the coffin. The Stamford Cardinal is a part
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of the ACC conference.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Acc Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They hung on, okay, by the skin of their teeth,
to just have some sort of like rebound from the
PAC twelve.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Destruction. The PAC twelve just.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Falling apart due to hubrisk, their pompous nature, their ability
or inability not to see the future. When you elevate yourself,
when you say you're better than you really are, you're
more valuable than you really are. It's crazy how the
free market, how you know, you mess around and you
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find out just how valuable you are.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And they messed around.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
The PAC twelve messed around, and they found out just
how valuable they really were. And now look at the pieces,
look at where they all fell. And the Stafford Cardinals
are part of the ACC. Like I said, there are
so many things that are pushing Stanford Athletics, and in
particular I would say ball and basketball into irrelevancy, and
by you need to be the team, okay, one of
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the teams to put that nail in the coffin to say, look,
you're gonna be irrelevant. Your fan base doesn't care about you.
No one cares to watch you on TV, no one
cares to purchase tickets, and no one cares to rep
Stamford football. Why would you want to go to Stanford
when you can get just as good of an education,
you get a better network here at BYU, you have
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better earning potential long term, and you have better nil deals.
That's what you want to be able to pitch to
all of these families that are flirtatious with the Stanford
cardinal and the recruiting race. In A win on the
grid iron will allow you to do that two consecutive
wins in fact, because you have beat Stamford at Stanford
in twenty twenty two and it was a solid victory. Okay,
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it was a great win and you did it I
think in a way that was pretty dominant even though
the score is something like thirty five to twenty seven.
So you want to send Frank Reich Andrew Luck home
with a nice, big fat l in week two. Now,
Head coach Kalani Sataki's in this tenth year graduated from
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Brigham Young University. This is his his school, his mission,
his dream, This was his dream to become the head
coach and finally Kilani has I believe the resources, the personnel,
and the coaching staff to booy him up and bring
Brigham into a dominant era of BYU football.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It could be a special era.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
In fact, you look at twenty twenty, twenty twenty one
double digit win seasons, twenty twenty two a little bit
of a drop up at an eight win season.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
First year of the Big Twelve. You didn't go to
a bowl game, but you.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Were close those last two games Oklahoma Oklohma State.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You saw the potential.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You saw the potential of this team under Killane in
the Big Twelve, and then last year overachieving getting to
eleven wins and just two losses, capping off the season
with a marvelous ball Victor River, Shooter, Sanders Prime, and
of course Travis Hunter, the Heisman Trophy winner. Kialate is
seventy three and forty three all time. Okay, that's not
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too shabby being a head coach in college football. I
can't believe it's already been nine years and we're going
into the tenth year. By the way, BYU is a
heavy favorite in this game. The spread is twenty and
a half. I believe last time I checked the over
under forty four and a half FPI prediction gives BYU
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an eighty nine point two percent chance of victory. Sp
plus Bill Connley his metric. It's part of the ESPN
Metric network. He stated in his preview that he thinks
it could be even a bigger blowout than twenty one points.
That's what his data says, that's what his analytics say. Now,
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the coaching staff Kilane and a Rod Jay Hill, you
have to be able to tell the story of motivation.
You have to be able to pitch the team, you know,
a certain sense of fear, not fear, but like you know,
you have to have a sense of urgency. You can't
get completion, you can't get you know, overly confident. It
can't have a little bit of the pride cycle. You
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gotta stay humble, stay hungry, and on the grind. So, Ronnie,
what's the story that Kialani A rodding J Hill K
Pop told this Cougar football team all week long in
preparation for the Stanford Cardinal coming into Provo.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, I think the biggest thing is, you know, uh,
you can't overlook anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's the big thing.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
If you do some of the distracted because I'm told
our video sound is not there. I'm going to pass
it to AP. Why get focused back on this, Ben,
because I'm not getting any sound coming through.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Okay, AP, what do you what do you make what
stories being told from the coaching staff to the players
in the locker room to keep them humble, hungry, motivated,
a sense of urgency, and to come out and execute
at a high level under the lights of avel once again.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Well, I think tonight they're just saying, make this a
business trip. This doesn't like I know that Bay and
Stanford we've had some off the field issues, as has
been documented earlier this week on the show. The band
from Stanford has not exactly been kind to be white.
There's been some controversy between the two programs, and so
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you can make things emotional. But I think they're going, hey,
let's make this a business trip. This is going to
be a transactional game where we're gonna go in handle business.
And I think the more you keep emotion, making things
emotional out of it, the higher level of execution you
can have. You know, I this is kind of a
weird analogy, but one time I heard a surgeon he
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was asked how he can handle like all these situations
coming in, like he's had some some awful surgeries he's
had to do. It's like, how do you handle like
doing this to another human like seeing them coming He goes,
I don't. I don't look at them like I don't
look at them with any level of emotion. I don't
view them as another human being, like this is an
object I need to fix. Until the surgery is over,
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then they're a human, Like I can view them as
a human. I can go, wow, we did a good job.
We've We've done a good thing. And so he's able
to keep his emotion out of the procedure, and he
does a good job. Adding emotion to procedure like that,
you might mess a few things up. And I think
you need to view this football game tonight the same way.
Don't put a like obviously, you play with the normal
emotions you do during a football game.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
This is a business trip. You go in, you execute,
you execute like a business trip.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Don't make this overly emotional between you know, the Bear
Bach Mater, the Tiger Black Mater.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
This is your former team, LJ.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Martin, this is your former the team you committed to
don't get too emotional, keep a levelhead, make this a
business trip, go out and execute like any other football game.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Well, I think there's a there's something to be said
about that. You can go one of two ways. You
can try to engage in some sort of emotional catalyst
of the past. What has this game been like in
the past. What has occurred in this game in the past.
There's only been three games. There's not a whole lot
of rivalry. Okay, there is a rivalry, I guess in
the recruiting though, you would say, you could say, look,
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these are this is a team that has targeted recruited
at a high rate with intentionality the LDS athlete and
I can go down the list of guys that they
have brought in, you know, from the state of Utah
or from you know they're they're members of the Church
of Christ of latterday Saints Dallas Lloyd pleasant Grove, Brandon Fanika,
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Pleasant Grove, Simme Fooco, Brighton, Dalton Chuls played at Binghamshony movie.
I believe it was a Brighton Tanna McKee. Okay, he
was out of California, Blue Corona, Lean Veach, Levanni de Mooney,
who's now at Utah right, but he went to Stanford
initially low at KALFUSI gave reed out of tim few.
Taysom Hill was a commit to Stamford. Luckily, when he
came back off his mission serving the Lord with all
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his heart my mind as straight, Stanford didn't have a
scholarship for him, and Lobhole b Yu was on point
with him, said hey, we'd like to have you, and
you got him right. Sean Barton, Grey Clark, Mark Harris,
John Mage, Uh, Scotty Edwards is on the team right now,
Bot Steve Taits's son. You know, these are Lds guys
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that you know would would definitely add depth and possibly
starting potential. Scotty's gonna be starting at safety for the
for the Cardinal tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And we missed out on Scotty. I really liked him.
I interviewed him on the show.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I thought he would be a perfect fit for this
BYU Cougar football team, whether it was the ed Lambalyisa
defense as a free safety or in the J Hill
defense as a free or strong safety. Scotty's gonna be
starting for him, and shoot, I'm not even talking about
the basketball court. Mark Madson should have been at b YU.
You know what I mean, Well, shout out to Rick
(15:35):
rich Jackson. Doctor rich Jackson, he should have been at
b YU as well. He's a star here in Provo.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I go down the list, Casey Jacobs and Nick Robinson,
the former b YU SITS coach. You don't want to
miss on the high level ld S athlete that values education,
that values you know, that temporal well being, long term.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
You gotta be able to make that pitch, you gotta
be able to swim.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And this is one of those games, Okay, this is
one of those games where if it's a dominating victory,
right and there's there's not even any sort of equivalency
of parody between personnel, execution, scheme, the crowd.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Are you kidding me? Like it's not even close, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Tiger Bachmeier said earlier this this week, I think in
an interview something to the effect of, like I finally
have people cheering for me in my home stadium.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And it was an FCS game. It wasn't even a
big game. But no disrespect for Portland State, but that's.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Not a big game. That's just not It's not a
big game.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So it's like you got to be able to make
these pitches, these temporal pitches that are you gotta be
able to provide the return on investment for a commitment.
And and this is one of those things you can
do when you're competing at Stanford in the years to come.
You send them highlights of twenty twenty two versus Stamford
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at Stanford. Do you send them b YU versus Stanford
at home highlights in twenty twenty five. That's that's a key,
that's a that's an imperative. That's what I'm talking about.
As far as a rivalry is concerned. Well, yeah, I
think it's also in the fan. But there's a lot
of fans that do not like Stanford. I talked to
several of this week. They have a severe dislike for Stanford.
Why don't and it goes back to the PAC twelve
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excluding pay It's a very.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Popular belief I think within the program at b YU
and within the fan base that Stanford is one of
those institutions that actively tried to keep BYU out of
the big the Power five. Yes, and so there's like
there's a an add in the incidents that have happened
every time we visit stand. There is no land like
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there's a There's a lot of fans who have some respect,
but there is a lot of fans who severely dislike
this program. It's there's not a lot of good feelings
from what I've seen between the casual BYU fan and Stanford.
There's not a lot of history on the ball field,
but off the field there's a lot going on there.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
On September September thirteen, two thousand and four, athletic director
Ted Leland had to apologize to bring him Young University
and his fans for the halftime show by the Cardinal
Band that poked fun at polygamy with five dancers.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Wearing wedding veils.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Apparently, Stamford went on to beat b Why thirty seven
to ten on that Saturday. So not only do they
get a shot, you know from a religious stampover, they
also gave him up a big fat l on the
way back to Provo. So your pride in multiple facets
of your life were a little bit a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Pervert, you know what I mean? Like, that's that's not
very nice.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Leland said he would meet with the band to discuss
possible sanctions. The actions of the Stanford band in Saturday's
game were inappropriate. I wish to apologize to BYU, their team,
fans and alumni. We are committed to being good hosts
to our opponents who visit Stanford in Anything that doesn't
reflect this is regrettable. Furthermore, in twenty twenty two, it
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happened again. The Cardinal band went out on the in
the on the halftime. During the halftime on the field,
it took another shot at the faith.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Ye can we get a lavel band for the Stanford band?
Oh my gosh, what do you mean the band is
gonna get boo ban? You know, like I didn't ask.
I ask yu fans. Are we allowed to boot?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
If if the Cardinal brings their band and they have
the tree out there, can we boo him?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah? People can boo. The only thing they're gonna is
Utah gonna get I think we should save it for for.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But here's the difference.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Utah, the team itself when it comes out, will be
booed from start to finish. You're talking about specifically the band.
We're not saying boot Stanford players, staff members, specifically the
Stanford guessed him, I.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Want everyone to get ice cream minus the band. Everybody
get ice get you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
This is where look, I know we're supposed to turn
the other cheeks another cheek to knight.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Lam said, we should be peacemakers. Saw.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I think it's perfectly coachy to at least boo the
Cardinal band and say the history between you and our
fan base.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
A few weeks ago, we let our mountain on fire
to show that we have no care for a Cardinal.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
We're gonna light that tree on fire. They're gonna light
that tree on fire.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I like that Smoky the bear out of town. I
hope only you can get a call for going off
on this dietro. We're gonna get cougarnation. You know, deep
down in your plums, in your loins, you know, I'm
right feel in your heart, in your in your mind
and your loins. You know there's a little bit of
pettingis you're like, you don't like it that they they
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they've done these things, but you lost respect.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You just can't do that like that. That's what's the difference.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Why you gotta get it back on the football get back?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
How important would that be?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You win?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You cover you covered this. Here's the thing. I'll make
a hot take right.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
B YU covers the spread and or puts a really
a big beating to Stanford tonight, and NIF's the recruiting
battle forever. Now, sure you might got some guys in
state that still might go to Stanford, but as far
as LDS talent, local talent, all of that, that puts
that to the bed. This game has so much recruiting
hot on it. What's the message that Colony said? Colone's
telling us, you know, hey, it's week two. We gotta
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go to and oh one and oh Humble, but you
gotta get b A your social media. Their team a
lot of credit. They've dropped a lot last season about
what goes on in that locker room.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And I promise you what goes on in that locker
room is something on alongs of lines like this. Do
you see this? Do you see how they disrespecting us?
Do do? They don't know? But do you think that
there's not competitive petty in that locker room? Colonie says
all the right things to us. I don't think anything
like that's happened.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, I don't know, Seaton, No, no, no, no, no, yes,
media members, I believe a little bit more petty.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Colonie's not showing Look, I think you know.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I think Klan behind the scenes, not in front of
our face. There's no saying we gotta go kick the.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Stoyklane's way to Christ like I've been coached by him,
like I've seen him up close and personal.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know, I know Clie he would not bring up
any of this stuff. But no, no, no, no, no
no no.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'm not saying there's no petty, as you pointed out,
but she still gotta go of his mind.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I think he's started of Stanford coming into getting recruits,
no doubt, no no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And he's not sitting it to players because player shouldn't
be focused on that. But in the back of his mind,
his message been to them is about that. There is
a competitive nature about that. Here's why I'll push back
of you Kilani. Last year, how many times took shots
at us in immediates. Some people said we weren't aggressive,
Like he hears the stuff. I don't think he's saying
it to players, no should he. But there's a motivation,
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you know, because media can be a little but there
is a but there's a motivation out there to go
improve something tonight, and I think all of that's internal
and they should keep that in their locker room. But
these the guys that are going to be fired up tonight.
There's it's personal tonight with Stanford based on how that
BYU hasn't been able to maybe perform in.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
The past, and the recruits.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And if you go out and win, and you get
a victory, you get a dub, you cover the spread,
you go and dominate, that puts that notion to bed.
You won't have the Cialius Harris thinking about even Stanford,
you won't have them. You won't have the LJ. Martins Committee.
They'll just look at BYU and say, this is the place,
this is the P four school. And quite frankly we
mentioned it. Will Stafford even have a football program in
the next five to ten years, No one knows.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
But this game has a lot riding on that.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Ben.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I think the message that has been conveyed.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
We proved nothing last week. We beat SCS team.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Obviously those in the poll thought that let's go beating
out a P four opponent two and zero before.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
We go into the buy.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I want Stanford to lose so badly that they do
like just say internally, why do we even have.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
A football program?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It might be that time let's retire this thing and
let's focus on rowing, underwater, basket weaving, Olympic sports, whatever
it is you know that they want to do. But football,
we don't need to be a football school anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Look at the irrelevancy here.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
They're part of the acc like I said, by the
skin of their teeth, three and nine, since twenty twenty one,
three and nine, twenty twenty two, three and nine, twenty
twenty three, three and nine, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Four, four straight seasons of three and nine.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Before that, they did have a COVID year where they
went four and two because somehow science concluded mid season
that it was safe to play football.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
All of a sudden, science changed mid season when they
were just losing a ton of money and going even
further into irrelevancy.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, science of your bank account, it's.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
The science of the filthy luker finally turned the tide
twenty nineteen though, four and eight, So, like I said,
be the catalysts, okay, to push them off the cliff
into irrelevancy, so we don't have to compete against them
anymore on the recruiting. On the recruiting side of things,
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one last thing before we go to break And I
pulled this up because I couldn't remember all the details,
But Jackson Payne actually wrote a piece about this because
he was I think at the game.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
A halftime performance during BYU.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Football's visit to standards Saturday Night is causing a stir
caused a stir on social media for its content lampooning
Latterday Saint believes the Stanford band staged a skit titled
gay Chicken Okay, which involved a pair of women being
married to each other, with the officiator using terms and
phrases taken from sacred temple ceremonies within the Church of
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Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints. That's what happened on the
football field by the band there officially stays.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
A bit like an get a lavel band for the band.
I mean, come on, guys, I mean really, I mean
that's how look.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I know, I I know, maybe a little bit far
fetched to believe that an entire institution feels completely okay
with throwing your religious sacred beliefs, you know, into kind
of this.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Disrespectful theater.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, theatric you know, event like, But I wouldn't be
surprised knowing what has occurred over the last three four
decades is BYU football kind of took over that they
became a Cinderella eighties, nineties, two thousands, Right, ESPN loved BYU.
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And and look Lavell. Everyone loved Lavell in college football.
A lot of the coaches in colleg football respected in
love Lavelle. But the institutions, the administration, the athletic directors
love BYU. The coaches love BYU. Right, ESPN loves BYU.
But you know who didn't love BYU. All of these
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institutions of higher learning that you know us, you know,
they would cite you know this, you know byus or
even the lattery Saint faith as being prejudice, and then
they would in turn say, well, we don't want you
a part of our institutions, and we don't want you
a part of our conference. And then they would then
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in turn exercise religious bigotry to limit you from getting
it in. Finally, finally, finally, Texas and Oklahoma left the
Big twelve yep, and went over to the SEC. And
that opened up the opportunity for BYU and all the
best resume in college football as it pertains to the
available institutions athletic departments that were available.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
They got the call up.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Bob Bowlesby called by and said, look, we want you,
We need you be a part of our big twelve family.
And Brett yor Mark has been happy that that happened.
Now we got to win against the ACC.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Ball out Brigham. We're gonna continue to break down this game.
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YU A heavy favorite.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Twenty and a half is the spread over under at
forty four and a half.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And I think most of the pundits handlers out there, experts,
the college football insiders, believe there's going to be a
convincing victory.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Had experience pro vote.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Tonight, and I hope so I really do get me
out in front of this BYU Cougar football team to
tell them a story about how important this game is,
not only for this season, but for seasons to come
and recruiting to come, and just the.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
History of BYU and Stanford.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Like, let me tell them a story all about how
BYU Cougar Football's world got flipped upside down.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'd like to take a minute to sit right there.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm gonna tell you how b why you got stiff
armed from joining the packed eight PAC twelve PAC ten. Okay,
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the sports here in the state of Utah. Let me
break down a few things here as it pretenses. BYU
Stanford matchup b YA and Stanford a meeting for the
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fourth time. I'm in the series Cardinals. The Cardinal leads
two to one, with the Cougars getting the first win.
In the last meeting in twenty twenty two, BYU won
thirty five to twenty six behind three hundred and fifty
eight rushing yards in that game, including one hundred and
sixty four from running back Chris Brooks.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
He bowled out in that game. It was tremendous.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Quarterback Jaron Hall threw two touchdowns and roots to the
victory on the road. The last time the two schools
met in Provo was two thousand and three. Stamford won
eighteen to fourteen in what was BYU quarterback John becks
first start as a true freshman.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
That's pretty crazy. That's crazy about that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And the supporting cash around John was not nearly what
the supporting cast is surrounding Bear Bachmeyer. Okay, the depth
the talent, There was a lot of young talent in
that two thousand and three football roster, but they were
coming along in two thousand and five, in two thousand
and six, and eventually two thousand and seven, we saw the.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Rewards of all that recruiting that Gary did.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
We big Cougar, wrote Gary Croton as he was rebuilding
after the two thousand and one season, and you know it,
just you know, BYU just wasn't good in O two
three to oh four. Just couldn't get over the hunt,
couldn't win the close games. And the defense was also
a little bit I would say inconsistent, But a.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Lot of young talent there.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So that was the last time, Okay, BYU welcome Stamford
to Lavelle's house. And now by using year three of
the Big twelve Boya began his third season the Big
Twelve Conference, after taking a big leap in year two
to compete for a league title. After a five and
seven overall finish in twenty twenty three and two and
seven marking Big Twelve Play, the Cougars flipped the script
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in twenty twenty four by going eleven to two and
seven to two and Big twelve in Big Twelve Play.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It was fantastic, It was awesome, It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I won a lot of one score games and you
lost two of those one score games, and it was unfortunate.
But man, what a season it was year two in
the Big Twelve. And you knew of the potential, right,
you knew what was what this Cougar football team was
capable of. So can't wait to see what happens in
this BYU stand game. And let me give you a
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little nugget here going back, piggybacking off of the commentary
I had in the first segment about how important this
game is for not only this year, yes, it's important
this year, but for the future. Right, And I gave
you the history of this BYU Stamford relationship.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It has not always been good.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
It historically hasn't been good as I've mentioned before athletic
directors have typically liked BYU and they always want to
schedule them administrators, the erudites of the Institution of Higher Learning.
They want to stiff arm Brigham. That's how it's always
been for a long time, and that's why the Big
twelve was actually the best place for BYU, not the
former Pack eight, PAC ten, Pac.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Twelve, quite honestly, and it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
But Stamford took advantage of BYU when they were at
their weakest. They were BYU in two thousand and one
had a great season and a double digit win season,
twelve win season, Doak Walker reward. Brandon Doman got drafted
like there was a lot of NFL talent too young, inexperienced, struggled.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Oh three is when you face Stafford the first time.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Okay, Oh four is the second time you face Stafford,
and Stanford beat you both times.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And not like those those Stafford teams.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
We were amazing teams by any mean, they were good, right,
but you lost to them.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Unfortunately, you lost to them.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
And that was when BYU was at its weakest in
the in the modern era from nineteen seventy two one, right,
BYU has been winning eight games a season, and they've
been consistent in those efforts. They've been consistent in that
In that that execution oh three to oh four, I
mean we were we were not who we are today.
And now you're seeing the inverse. They took advantage of
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BYU at its weakest and O three and oh four.
Now b YU needs to take advantage of Stanford when
it's at its weakest. Point four consecutive seasons, three and
nine seasons. They have an interim head coach, Frank Right,
They got an interim head coach. He's not even gonna
be there for more than a year. Andrew luck is
trying his best to rebuild this program as the general manager.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
They haven't they had.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
The one thing they have going from is they've recruited
decently over the last four to five years during this
stretch because of their academic prowess, their academic standards, because
of the long term earning potential and network that they
have within the Stanford family. But I think we're getting
to a point where BYU, okay, from an academic standpoint,
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from a long term earning potential standpoint, from a networking standpoint, okay,
socio economics matter. And then from a productivity on the
football field and having an opportunity to play in the
National Football League.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think BYU is right there to make a pitch.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And if you beat Stamford tonight convincingly, I think it's
gonna be a whole lot more difficult for Stanford to
recruit in their rebuild mode. The modern day LDS recruit
that's looking for the holistic best opportunity in all facets
of their lives.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
And and and look, guess what. Lance Anderson is no
longer at Stamford. He's not there. There's now at Tech.
And guess what Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
If you want to if you want to throw a
dart at somebody, and you know, have a little hate
towards somebody, Jim Harbaugh brought Lance Anderson LDS coach recruiting coordinator,
became the DC at Stanford. He brought him to University
of San Diego, Okay to coach football.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Once upon a time, Ed Lamb was on that staff.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
By the way, shout out to Ed Lamb, former BA linebacker,
Little nugget there for you. Then Harbaugh took the job
at at Stamford. After that, after a couple of years
at San Diego, and with that move brought Lance Anderson,
and Lance was over recruiting. And guess what happened in
seven oh wait, Lance started coming into the state of
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Utah and targeting the high level LDS recruit and you
saw him a target in the Greater Mountain region on
the West coach all those LDS recruits.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And you see time and time again him win, win
in a high level and bring him in.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So luckily in twenty twenty two, b what you went
out to Stanford and Shaw was kind of on the
ropes Coach Shaw and he he literally Coach Shaw retired,
stepped down, resigned retirement after that loss to BYU in
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
So you got Stamford on the ropes, you know what
I mean, You got him on the roade.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
He's swaying, you know the Cardinals. You know, just he's battered, bruised.
Right now, you have to step on the throat. Get
me this opportunity to talk to this Cougar football team.
You know, I'll be the pregame speech with you, you
know what I mean, I'll be the the the order
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to to tell you the story about how important this
game is I'll.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Say my biggest fear tonight is that Bear Bachmeier is
doing what I'm doing is getting a little it's getting
a little personal.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You know, you just want to be business. I want
Bear Bakmer to be the classically.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Every time Jaron Hall would step up to the podium,
he's like, it's a business trip, it's business, and he
was just like, I'm at the office, you know, another
day in the office, you know, And that's that's.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Dude, I need from Bear Bachmer.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
If Bear Bachmer takes this personally and it's an emotional game,
you may see a few errant throws that that result
in turnovers.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
There's a couple throws last week at the beginning. I
was like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
He settled in nicely, but man, this could if this
could be a game where Bear if he takes things personally,
it could be some there could be some learning moments.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Well, I think with that, you have to look at
last week of right, it comes down to the DM
or decision making, and people are gonna feel like all
season long, I'm taking a shot at the former quarterback
Jake There was no throw last week where I'm like,
that was a bad decision. The throat just wasn't executed,
whether due to MCA or too much on it or
too much underneath it. That's where I think your point
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could be true that if he makes bad decisions. I
didn't see Bear make a bad decision last week. I
just didn't see him execu to throw. And I think
that's what gets you in trouble in these games that
could be personal, is if you start to make bad decisions.
He didn't throw on triple coverage, he didn't throw where
he didn't need to throw. He took the right moments,
he took the right shots. It's just can't he make that?
But that's on his mind for sure. He knows he's
gonna get asked that question the post game been if
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they win. He knows that Tiger's gonna get asked that.
There's nothing doubt about it. And I think the boy
you knows that too, right, and everything will this will
tell me.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
What everything I need to know. If it's a little
bit personal.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
If I see a heavy doses to Tiger Bachmeyer tonight,
that will tell me a lot of what I need
to know in regards If it's personal because you got
Chase on the case, you got Parker, you got Jojo.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I don't think there's anything that you can't look at
the roster. The roster itself is not gonna have anything
personal to say. I mean, Bear and Tiger maybe, but
they had a great experience. They said nothing but great
things about.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Samson their experience. So there's no just no bad bloof
between you. But there's a competitive nature like oh, I
want to be my former team.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, yeah, I get that. I don't think there's any
bad blood between roster, the b A roster and the
Stanford roster or anyone associated with it. I think that's
why you got to tell the story. You gotta you
gotta be willing and capable to tell the story. And uh,
I think for fans they realize it because you know,
they they keep track of these things. Whereas in the
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the roster and even the coaching staff to a certain degree,
the you know, who would tell the story, who has
a little bit of like this petty Kyle Whittingham feel
to him. J Hill, Jill Jay you know so Jay
Jay made an interesting comment to me at the golf tournament.
Uh this offseason, Okay, Like I was talking to him
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about what what what would you say?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
It was at the end of the interview.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
What would you say, words of advice to the fan base?
How can they get involved anything?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I just leked it open ended.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
He said, these guys that b b Yu, you follow
them on Twitter, like when they're getting recruitted, great, follow them,
like them, retweet them, love them up. When they leave
b Yu, drop them, drop them and booted he said,
drop them. He did drop them them. Do not follow them,
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do not like their tweetspe you know, not once a cougar,
always a cougar.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Like he didn't say that, but like.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
And b why you you you never were a cougar,
So don't follow them. That's what That's what I'm saying.
But like and and I think, you know, you can
go one of two ways with it. I do think
like you, like, there's reasons why guys transfer, there's a
reason reasons why young men don't come to be why
you the first go around, but they sometimes come around
the second time. Had you been a little bit petty
when when Pooka went to Washington, do you get them
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back right or do you kind of keep those that communication?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Oh, it's like the.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Plans, hey cut it off. So like I think Jay
is a little bit more petty in that.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
Regardless, Well, to your point with telling a story, it's
like a couple of times when BYU would play Wyoming.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
The last few times you.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Had to tell a story because there's a history between
the two programs, but it's been so long that nobody remembers.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
No one on the roster remembers.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
I mean, Ben knows because Ben played him when it
was personal in the Mountain West. But and I'll just
say that I have a deep dislike for what probably
they are players.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Don't know any history behind any of these sims. Let's
they grew up a particular fan of a particular team.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
But it's like there's certain programs that when they come in,
there's just there's just been so much time between what's
happened between the two programs that you need to tell
a little story to get a little bit of a
and like just to kind of get them riled up
a little bit, not so much that they lose focus,
but you need them to.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Be fired up, you know. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Earlier this week in preparation here for the Stanford matchup,
Stanford head coach Frank Reich said, this is a good
football program.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I think they do it right.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
They do a good job of recruiting the players that
they have that fit their schemes. So we have a
lot of respect for them. Klani said this about his
team in Stanford and Stanford Rick. Those guys know how
to get a team ready. There's good talent on that team.
We respect them. We recruited a bunch of those guys too.
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We have to make sure that we're on top of
our game when it comes to getting ready for this one.
And and so yeah, I think that's an intriguing, intriguing
point here, Colonie is like, we recruited a bunch of
those guys, a bunch of those guys that are on
the roster. So once again, the importance of this game
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is as much, you know, on the field as it
is off the field. In order to secure that pipeline
of high academic high achievers off the field, the families
that think that Stanford provides a better foundational platform for
long term earning potential and education, Okay, it shouldn't anymore.
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You gotta be able to make that pitch, and and
and and you can do that by seating also the
doubt of like, wow, like look at how far Stanford's
football program is from being a BYU football program. A
twenty one point victory, a dominating victory tonight just allows
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for more leverage when you're making that pitch, like, hey,
let's pull up twenty twenty two, twenty twenty five film
of this BYU Stanford game. You know, when you're recruiting
it for the twenty twenty seven class, the twenty twenty
eight class, et cetera. And I would love to continue
to schedule Stanford because that's an easy P four dub
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as long as they are in the ACC and they're
traveling and they're geographically just in the void, their geographically
in purgatory. They are like they're in P four purgatory.
They're really not a part of the ACC. They are
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maybe I don't even know if they're getting a full
share of media rights.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I don't know if they are. They have to be
bleeding everywhere.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
And Andrews trying to find somebody willing to take the
head coaching job at Stanford, because I guarantee you you
talk to if any one of these coaches, okay, gets
on the line, with coach Shaw, gets on the line
with coach Coach Harbaugh, gets on the line with coach
Lance Anderson. Any one of the former coaches, what are
they going to say about their Stanford experience. Hey, it
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was good for you know, these years, but now it's
a lot tougher because X, Y, and Z, because of
the silos that typically you know, schools that don't value sports.
If they only value academics and they value the government
subsidies that boowye up their quest for in truth and
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publish data that comes out of their university, right, if
they only value that and they put they stiff farm
the athletic program to a degree, then you're gonna feel
like that redheaded step child. You can always feel like
you're you're fighting, kicking against the pricks, trying to figure
out a way. And so I think now's the time
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nailing the coffin step on the throat. You gotta push
them off the cliff into a relevancy. Four consecutive, three
nine seasons, they're part of the ACC For the love
of Pete. They have an interim head coach, Frank Reich,
who's gone after this year. Most likely Andrew luck is
trying to call people all the time trying to acquire
good coaching talent.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Can he do it?
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Not? If they end up calling Sean Harbaugh and Lance
Anderson say hey, what would you do?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
All of them? You know what they're gonna say. They're
gonna say, Ah, I wouldn't take that job.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
That's a tough job to win. That's a tough place
to play. You don't have any fan engagement. Your donors
don't care about really engaging with the players a whole lot.
You have very few advocates within the institution. Now's the time,
Like I said, by you got took an advantage of
by Stanford when they were at their weakest. Now it's
not for by you take advantage at as Stanford's at
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their weakest point. Guys, we're at our tailgate, getting your prep,
getting ready for the BYU Stamford matchup.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
It's gonna be a glorious evening. There's a little wind.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Coming from the north, from the north, I think west here,
and so it could be a little bit breezy tonight,
little cloud coverage here. It's cooling down as we speak,
a little partly cloudy, and I'm starting to see the
leaves change down here in provo.
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