9-8-25 - Hour 4 - Do you expect Bear Bachmeier to win football games with his arm talent?

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(01:28):
welcome in Super Bowl champion former b YU. Great, we
got Brady Papinga on the line. Be pop, how you
living man?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
What's always fun to jump on, especially after a big
victory and an impressive performance bat Coobs.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yes, indeed it was a great victory for the Cougs
versus Stanford. I want to get into that, but before
we do that, any any highlights from the weekend that
you want to maybe comment on. BYU has a lot
of play in the pros right now and many of
them are making an impact.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Let's start off with the Dolphins situation.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Indianapolis Cults completely demolished the colt Or completely demolished the Dolphins,
and Zach Wilson was finally given the opportunity at the
end look pretty efficient.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Wasn't able to you know? You know, I guess start
a comeback?

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Might?

Speaker 4 (02:19):
It means they were so far down?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
But is Zack Wilson gonna get a chance to start
in the next few weeks for the Dolphins?

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Do you think?

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean they've paid to a lot of money, okay,
so they are going to ride him until the Wills
fall off and Jerry speak, I mean we're talking probably
until they're out of playoffs contention mathematically, so we're a
ways away unless they feel like they need to inject
some kind of energy. Did they feel like Zach Wilson

(02:49):
could give them versus two up, which again is going
to be something I would say wouldn't happen for at
least another couple of months because you're gonna let two recover.
I mean, this happens a lot, you know, I think,
I don't know if you guys remember when the Chiefs
destroyed and this was Andy Reid was with the Chiefs
destroyed the Patriots, and I think it's week four actually,
so it wasn't even week one, you know, and everybody

(03:11):
was saying the Patriots are done, tom Brady's done, blah
blah blah blah. And then they go on to win
the Super Bowl that year, and then Tom Brady goes
on to a couple more Super Bowls and they laughed,
you know, that whole kind of narrative. And I don't
really remember. I think it's either my rookie note was
it was my rookie year in the NFL. It was
this really crazy cut that the Patriots did. They cut

(03:33):
their top safety name was Lawyer Malloy and then the
Bills immediately signed him. And then lo and Behold the
Patriots and the Bills were playing in the first week
of the season and guess what the score was. The
Bills beat the Patriots thirty one or something to zero.
Killed them. It's because LAURYA. Milloy basically came in and say, hey,
this is what you can do to beat these guys.

(03:55):
You know, here's these strategies, is what they think, you know,
and they did, and Lobe behold that same Patriot team.
Guess what the long story and short of them, they
went on to win the Super Bowl a year or
at least content for Super Bowl. Oh maybe it's the
I think it's a steardsn't win it. But they were,
you know, playoff team. So this thing is is you
can't overreact in these week one games, Week two games,
actually the first six weeks the season. People don't realize

(04:16):
most teams. Obviously you don't want to go in six.
You don't want to go too and four, you know,
but if you're three and three, you're good. Because a
lot of times these coaches look at this as the
new preseason. They look at it like, Okay, this is
where we get a feel for how our team's going
to be. It's a probe, and then they really build
strategies around who their team is week five to six
on the way to the rest of the season. So

(04:38):
there's gonna be a lot of movements still and I'm
not saying that's the Dolphins, but it should be. And
in theory, they're very stacked talent wise, they have solid coaching.
Two is a good player. I wouldn't say this is
going to continue if I had a bet on it,
which I don't, but if I have bet, I would
say that the pay I'm sorry that the Dolphins are
gonna figure out and they're gonna they're gonna be in
the mix. I'm not going to say they're gonna win

(04:59):
the A see, but hey, they're gonna be I'm not
even saying they get a playoff spot. I think they're
gonna be a detention for a playoff spot. They're gonna
be around five hundred this year, which again is gonna,
you know, lend for other organizational decisions. But don't think
that this is like who they are. They're not a
team that's this bad.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
And then again they got caught too. I think also
when you play a team like Indianapolis, you don't really
know what they're about because they've got Daniel Jones coming in. Yeah,
so there's a lot of then knowns and all of
a sudden, now everybody knows. You know, you got film
on the Colts, so can over acts off.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
A week one.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
But Zach Wilson, Yeah, he's the one thing that I
would say it gives him the best chance to play
is to his susceptibility to you getting concussions, and we
may because he's had so many of the last reyears.
See Zach Wilson, before you even.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Know Kyle Van noyce pt last night in the Baltimore
ravings Game one that took the the NFL world by storm.
What a crazy comeback that was for the Buffalo Bills.
But he did have three tackles. kV and had three
tackles once solo to assist it, and he had one
stuff that I think the line of scrimmage. Let's comment

(06:03):
on this game and then anything that you saw from
KVN's performance.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Unbelievable game. I mean I literally turned it off when
they were down. The Bills were down forty one to
twenty five, twenty six or something, and it was like
they couldn't stop the run. I mean, it was a disaster,
you know for the Bills, and it looked like an
oppressive victory health something you know, on talk and hang
out with my wife. I'm like, I'm nea go turn
off the you know, the TV and all the Bills
are driving down to put themself in the position down

(06:30):
thirty eight forty and I'm like, oh my gosh or
whatever the score was that I was literally win the
game if they getting figgled, you know, and it's it's uh,
you know, man, it's just crazy to see some of
these guys, you know, like you know, the quarterback for
the Bills, just to growth, you know, and to see
him just take off, because I remember watching him against

(06:51):
you know, you know, Josh Allen against the Mangum and
I think it was like the points she had a
San Diego Bowl or something in the downpour. And I
was not impressed with Josh Allen at all. You know,
I was not a fan of his.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
I was, I was.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I thought the Bills really overreached and picking him, you know,
and I'm happy he proved me wrong. But man, he's
you know, obviously the MVP caliber player one of the
last year, is probably going to be in the talks
again this year. But Kyle play good. You know, I
think he he had some moments there where he was
close to getting some sacks, has some pressures. The Dckins
left tackle that he was going against quite frequently was
one of the top left tackles in the NFL, so

(07:26):
he had his work cut out for him. But he
had the heads up play there on that two point
conversion tone if you sorry you got that that lateral
in the end zone and ran it out, which I
had never heard of the situation so I guess in
the two point perversion, if as a defender, the ball
goes out of the end zone in your possession and
then it goes back in, you could actually have a
safety in that safety with count not as two points

(07:47):
but one point. Interesting.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
So I don't know if you.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Guys caught that, but were Kyle literally got the ball
ladder up to him in the end zone, I probably
would have just downed it in the end zone count
at one point, which had been stupid obviously, but who knew,
you know, who knew? And so I guess to you
tomorrow every NFL team and and and especially team is
gonna go over got playing and say, okay, guys, because
I think it's the first time that plays ever even
potentially happened, you know, in the game. But it was

(08:10):
a heads up move by him to get out of
the end zone and put the kned down out of
the end zone, you know, and then it's just unfortunately,
you know, you got control of the game. The running
you know, running game had been what had basically gotten
to the to the point where you're in control and
your your top to your running back fumbles. You know,
that's that's frustrated but you know play well, you know,
I just you know, he's he's he's always kind of
like in the mix, one step away from me. And

(08:30):
so I generally speaking, when you're that close to making
the averages are in your favor, that those are gonna
eventually happen, no doubt about.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
It, Brady.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Butpinga here talking to Cougars in the pros on your
UTI ESPN Radio network.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
One guy that I've been impressed by as he's navigated
his post b YU career Kiris Satona. He's currently with
the New England Patriots. He had three tackles and a
loss versus the Raiders. But man, it's six two sixty three.
We're in a thirty five pounds. This New England coaching
staff trying to extract the most out of his potential.

(09:06):
He was with the Cardinals last season and just a
strong run stuff or he was a seventh round pick,
two d and fiftieth overall, he's still in the league
and doing some great work. What did you make of
Kyrostonian what his career has been thus far.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, I mean it's about, you know what, these big guys,
it was just so hard to find and so if
you can get a big guy that can clog up
the middle, take up blockers, play that nose guard position.
They're so valuable because it sets your whole defense, you know,
makes it to where your linebackers off the ball can
run sidelight the sideline without having to deal with a
lot of off you know, off the ball blocking. It
helps your pass rush to where your edge guys now

(09:42):
can get home. If because if you don't have a
middle push you know, which I think you know transitioned
to do what you Last year we struggled with that.
We didn't really have a middle presence. So when you
got guys like Bay lying around the edge, these quarterbacks
are able to step up and avoid that rush. But
when you have that presence in the middle and they
don't even have to like pressure the quarterback, just make
it where there's really nowhere to step up to. Now

(10:03):
your edge dressers can get home. And that's just it's
stuff that does not show up on the stat sheet,
but that turns out to be crazy, crazy viable for
the success of your defense. And that's where Kiris fits.
He's one of those guys and I would say, like,
you know, he's a guy that if he could settle
into a role it's where he vibes well with the
coaching staff, he stays healthy, then he can continue to

(10:23):
be that middle presence. I mean, those guys they just
stay around for so long because and the reason why
he continues to get signed, and it's because there's so
many are sorry, there's so few of them, you know,
and and it's just so hard to find a guy
like that. And when they're effective, they can change the whole,
the whole identity of the defense. So yeah, he's he's
kind of I think show him flashes of that. And

(10:45):
now at his point in his career he's a bridge guy,
but at any point, with some consistency, he could become
a mainstay in the defense for years to come, especially
like the Patriots, where a guy like Rabel that's what
they that's what they want. Vince Wilfork, if you remember him,
that's where he was at. He was that guy in
the midll that basically set the whole defense, and the
curious could do that. He's he's going to be playing

(11:05):
with the Patriots a long time.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Let's talk about linebackers. Fred Warner had a nice game
eight total tackles. I know, he got a little bit
deemed up. I don't know if he came back into
the game.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I think he did.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
But Freddie highest paid linebacker in the league right now,
showcasing well to start the NFL season.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, I mean, it's he's a guy that is constantly
making game changing plays, you know, and it's whether it's
a big hit. And again we talk about linebackers being
able to playing sideline to sideline. That defense does that
for him as well as any defense that you can imagine,
where he can just flow and fly to the ball.
Use his speed. His diagnostic ability is one of the
best I've ever seen, you know, because he's not over like.

(11:50):
He plays a lot faster than he is and he's
still a fast guy.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think he ran maybe four to five, four to
six in the combine, but he plays even faster than that.
And then obviously his his coverage skills, which to me
were always impressive. Even in college. You know, they played
him in a position before they really had a nickel
you know, they played him as kind of that nickel
cornerback cat be right. I don't know if people realize that.
And he flourished because he has this instinct of reading routes,

(12:15):
filling the routes, and then also at the same time
understanding where the quarterbacks looking to go and and making
plays on the balls, picking it, you know, interceptions or
even just body positioning, positioning and just dissuading the quarterback
for making throws. And so he did that all the
game wrong and he continues to do that. I mean,
he plays at a high, high level, you know, and
that's why he's the highest paid because he's so valuable

(12:36):
when it comes to coverage, run stopping. And then the
one thing that nobody ever talks about is he'll be
involved in their rush packages and the guy creates havoca
there too. So you know, FET's an All Pro future
Hall of Famer for a reason. You know, he's that
guy every single day, every single week, and he has
a leadership presence about him, you know. So hopefully he's
healthy and stays healthy. But yeah, he basically just played

(12:59):
how you would exp the play, which is as a
game changer.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Brady Lbus what I've been calling BYU for a while.
They continue to produce high level linebackers and they got
a few guys that I think could play in the
National Football League Jack Kelly Isaiah Glasger the next two
guys I think coming out of Brigham to get drafted
and to make an impact at the National Football League level.
What did you see from Jack and Isaiah that would

(13:24):
maybe validate that? And do you agree with my assessment?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh yeah? I mean, well, when you hook at linebacker,
you got to look at there's three ways you can
play a linebacker off the ball and as a run
stopper off the ball, coverage and then blitzing in line
and then blitzing off the edge. And you look at
both those guys, they play very well off the edge.
They played very well off the ball the physical So
to give you an idea of war, I see Glasger.

(13:53):
If you've ever heard of Brian Hlacker, Glaska is the
closest I've ever seen a player mash up to the
skill set of Ryan Rlacker, where he is six y
five long range is out of his world. I mean
this guy in terms of when you drop him into coverage,
he shuts down so many routes that you don't really
hear about it because quarterbacks love throw it his way.
And then when they do throw it his way, things

(14:14):
happened like in that Arizona game last year, he goes
and picks it off for six. I mean, this guy
is a specialist or even in the Colorado again and
had a phenomenal pick, that diving pick, you know. I
mean he's a wide receiver, you know. So Gloster is
really I think when you just look at raw, raw
ability and combo ability, he's the most unique linebacker to

(14:34):
ever come through be wiping ever size rains, fall skills,
and then just playing well in all three phases as
a linebacker. So I'm not saying he's going to be
the highest drafted, but he could. I mean, there's no
reason to think that he couldn't be a Franklin. I'm
not trying to like promote him in a way that's
unfair and put extra stress and pressure on him, but

(14:56):
that's how rare his abilities are, and that's how highly
valued they a are, and any especially the defenses where
it's just like Buy's defense, where they're multiple. You know,
everybody wants to be multiple to some degree or another,
and we have guys like last year, Jack, that's what
you're able to do. And then Jack, I almost think
the guy is a better edge guy in some ways.
The hosketball, which he's a phenomenal off the ball, got

(15:17):
his speed, you know, his his diagnostic abilities. He also
fits very well in the coverage. But what I love
about him, and he showed it against Stanford, is his
edge rushing ability. But he does a nice job though
because his ability to be also multiple allows for you
to then use him in a lot of different ways
that will constantly keep an offense just guessing as to
what's coming. And if you saw against Stanford, I mean

(15:40):
that pick that last I think it was the last
drive of the game that b Yu had number eleven.
What's his name again, Man, he's got a cool name,
number eleven from yeah folots out baby, so yeah dude,
So yeah, he's an some kid by the way, I

(16:00):
love them. But that was all set up from deception
from scheme because all throughout the game, Uyu had been
sending five six man pressure and on that particular play
they ran the term out they use my term is
called they perceived blitz. The term that's now become popular
is called a what do they call those? Just I
just kind of like my mind went blake. There's another

(16:22):
name to have for him. It's a It's a what
they all think about later, but it's but what it
what it's trying to do is it's trying to pretend
like you're bringing more than your regular four or five rushers,
which would didn't mean you have less than your regular
seven cover guys, meaning there's holes in your coverage. So
what you're trying to do is trick the quarterback into
thinking that he could throw a hot run.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Liked to Simulatord.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
That's where I just want to I was like, I
was trying to get into your mind, Brady.

Speaker 7 (16:57):
That's what you did.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
A good job. I could I couldn't. We're just slip
my head. But anyway, so so that that was what
he got that pickoff of.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
So here you have you.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
And it's because of the multiplicity like having guys like
Glaster and Jack out there, and then you got e
from who, by the way, would be a starter on
every other college football team in the country except maybe
five or Stix, you know behind Glasger that makes store.
You can run these simulated blitzes and people just don't
They just don't know is this the legit blitz or

(17:25):
is this still because because what happened on that pit
was they blitzed the corner, and from the right side
it looked like an overload blitz, when in fact the
right end, the right tackle he looped around and contained
on the left side of the defense, the right side,
left side of offense, excuse me, right side of the defense,
and then the other tackle looped around to the even

(17:47):
up the rush edge guy he long stick, which basically
means he goes down to the A gap which he
becomes like a d tackle corners coming off the brit
the edge. There's only four guys, only four guys rushing.
And then the best part is number eleven. He draws
into the flat like a seen corner and a cover
two and he still has seven deep. And so what
most quarterbacks are taught is to always throw the ball
to where the pressure's coming from because that's generally where

(18:10):
the void is in the defense, because that's where everything's shifting.
And that's what he didn't even look. You didn't even
see him out there. And so the point is is
their versatility has set up Yu's defense to be an
absolute nightmare for a lot of these quarterbacks. Whereas you
just can't get a read on what the heck they're
going to do next. And Jay Man, he knows so

(18:31):
well how to mix it like he like what I
love about Jay when you hear his mind. He knows
how to in every situation based off of down distance
and offensive tendencies. He's got three or four different options
of what he wants to give them in terms of pressures, coverages,
and stunts, and he's got variations. And then the guys
we have are you know, they're smart enough and there's

(18:52):
enough retention that they can do all these different nuances
and tweaks. It's fun. I mean it like that game
was a fun game to watch from a defensive perspective.
I though it wasn't overall a five game and watch
Ragon Gentleen because it got a little staggered there at times.
But wow, I mean, Jay had those guys going. But again,
going back to you know, Jack and Idiah, those are

(19:13):
the kind of guys that make this whole thing world good.
And I mean they're they're going to be NFL guys.
There were lucky to have them, and you know, Justin's
doe a phenomenal job by the way of developing these guys. Isaiah,
when I first showed up a couple of years ago,
to just kind of be with the team. He was
an afterthought, Like you don't realize that he had a
lot of questions about his ability to play as a linebacker,

(19:36):
and Justin worked with him so well to just help
him get confident, you know, just to help him believe
in himself to the point where and that's what the
job of a coach is, right, is to take you
where you can't take yourself. Justin has done that, and
he's done it with Jakes r. Jack, Jack and Isaiah
at the levels where these guys are for sure they're
gonna be you know, they're going to be NFL guys.
And like I said, I think Isaiah is the most

(19:58):
unique skill set linebacker we've ever had to.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Be with you crazy times at Brigham. What stood out
to you in this BYU Stanford game? Who would you
like to highlight? Obviously went into Ig and Jack Kelly,
But what did you make of this victory over the
Stanford Cardinal?

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Well, man, it was it was a game. It was
fun in the one sense. It was like I was
saying on the air to you and YU Sports Nation
about how Stanford was physical, so I knew it was
gonna be one of those kind of like just real physical,
violent games. And it was I mean, if you just
watching our offensive line, our defensive line from the beginning

(20:38):
until the end, just absolutely just go out and get
after Stanford. I mean, I mean it was fun. I
mean offense, like there was plays where our defense man
that just we have you know, Jack Kelly's tossing due.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
To the ground.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
J T number fifty five, Dude is on the ground.
You got Tonna boss split in the double team, and
then you got and I think it's either the logan
on the other side also just blasting their guy and
there is I'm talking Ben nowhere to go nowhere. I mean,
if you're a running back, it is a wall of
blue that's coming at you. And their whole offensive line

(21:14):
just got cut up and sliced into fifty different pieces.
And I'm just like, I'm like, that is something. And
they did that over and over and then you add
onto that the nuances of the stunts and the blitzer
and then the physicality and the competitiveness. It was beautiful.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
It was.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
And then offensive line they did the same thing to
Stanford's front. They were tossing his around Bruce those in
two or three guys are tackles scrappy and the thing
that you always like to see from offensive linemen that
I enjoyed outside.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I'll give one.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
There was one play that was an exception. There was
the sack on Bear in the deep red zone where
I think it was third down after the penalty, where
there was an unbought player off the edge. Other than
that play, they always had their target. They always were
straight up with the targets, which to me is like, Okay,
that's like a good sign, right because at least you're
trying to block and get somebody's way. That gives you

(22:08):
a chance, whereas you just let guys go, you don't
have a chance. You know, it's minimal, right, Well, actually
know there's two and the other one was that fourth
down play. So there's two plays where their their front
got a little confused. And by the way, Stanford has
a very kind of complex scheme like we do. And
again it would make sense, right because you've got guys
that are academic and can retain information. Not all, not
all guys can do that at college. Okay, I mean

(22:31):
I couldn't. I'm one of them. I could just put
my hand in the dirt and say, dude, when that
ball moves, just go and you know, run over the
tackle or run around him. Figure it out. You know
I could do that, but you got all these things
and there it gets a little complicated. The point is,
is there the offensive line and the defensive line where
the funnest thing to watch and our backs around hard.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
But but that to me is like, if I'm looking
at where we're at right now, we're as good in
our fronts as we've ever been, and that is a
good sign. Now it's a matter of let's let's clean
up the intricacies of offensive timing, you know, receiver quarterback.
I think you know, Chase Roberts in his postgame interview
hit it hit this on the head. Was like what

(23:10):
they're asking, what are you gonna do with the Biwick?

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Get with bear? You know?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
And I think that's probably I think the biggest residual
of Jake leaving when he left is the lack of
chemistry between the quarterback position and the receiving court. Right now,
they can get that cleaned up, because I mean, dude,
Stampers defense is just selling out against the running in
which every team is going to do that, and you
know that Chase is looking at that going, man, I
got guys one on one constantly that I can beat.

(23:35):
And by the way, if they ended up having some
success at the end of the game of the long
four yard past the Chase, but they they're licking their
chops as a receiving court like this is exactly what
you hope for, is a running game that is so
threatening to a defense that they have to abandon two
high safeties, a lot of those softis own coverages, and
now there's just a manned man. And if you're Chase,

(23:57):
you know you can beat almost any corner man the
man at any time, or at least you'll know that
that Roderick will successfully set you up scheme wise, which
a lot of times he does as good as anybody.
So there's a lot to do improve on. But man,
those offensive and defensive line competitive spirit, physicality was to
me the most impressive thing.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Of that game.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Love that breakdown from Brady papinga b why he's going
to be able to run the ball Aaron Roderick's been
adamant about it, and LJ is a big part of that.
It will she only look nice if you have to
go to RB three RB four Joe vesa look good
good I think versus Portland State. Preston Rex has received
some good reviews from the coaching staff throughout Fall camp

(24:40):
as well.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
How do you feel about the depth of the running
back room right now?

Speaker 5 (24:45):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
You know, Domani, that dude number twenty eight we'll talk
about right, Yep, he is. He's a stunt dude. That
dude was hitting the holes like a freaking missile. And
even when he got in there against stafford ly in
the game. So I think there are at least three
d And you're right about Rex. He's looked really surprised
that people were surprised because it was a safety. How
many times I see safety here to running back?

Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know, when he made the conversion his like final year,
he was awesome.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
That's right, that's right. And so yeah, I like that
death of running back, you know. But it's it's special
to have a guy like Elgier back there who is
your bell cow and then is saying kind of player
where it's like you bet, like even when they get
a two yard game, it is a bludgering, it's a
it's a it's still like your your hit. Those like

(25:36):
body blows and comparing it to boxing. In the boxing
match where it's still a gag. It took all of
us to do that, you know, and all it takes
is for one guy to be out of a position
Boom it's out, you know, which happened in his long run.
You know, it's very very similar. Defend the way they
defended it. But all it took was for a right
tackle to drive. He basically drove the number eleven four

(25:56):
of Stafford all the way across the formation, which created
too big of a gap for all the other defenders
to really fill up, and then boom, LJ was out,
you know. And that's why every like I said, even
like those two n two are excuse me, like the
two yard runs or the no guinn runs, they still
have an effect on the defense because it just takes
everything to make that happen. And you just know, as

(26:17):
the defense, dude, if we don't do that every single time,
we're gonna give up something. And it's hard for us
to do that. And so that that still leads to
the success of your running game, even though you're you know,
you might be geting stuffed here and there, and that's
where the patients come in and that's where you have
to believe that you're gonna wear them out. Which that's
what that's what I think. You know, we're hopeful for
b YU. So yeah, I mean I think their their

(26:38):
their depth there is really good, you know. And uh
and and the thing that I love most because I
love this style, is the physicality even you know, I
think Bears showed the physical run there and the touchdown
running over the linebacker. I thought it was a safety.
Had to go back to the film and yeah, it
was thirty five under my linebacker. He trucked them, buckled
his leg and I don't know if you know Bears

(26:58):
should be doing that every single play. But yeah, I
mean that's it's fun. I mean, this is the most
physical I would say this is the most physical BAU
team that I can remember. So let's let's see if
we can get some also some balance here, you know,
get some get some plays downfield, which they, like I said,
they're starting to get later in the game, be more
consistent in the red zone. And and man, it's it's
going to be very very exciting to see where they

(27:20):
can peek at as a team because I think there's
just a lot of us ad, especially with a true
freshman quarterback, built around these physical fronts that you have
both offensively and defensively.

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former bou Great NFL VET the Quarterback Scientists of three DQB.
We got John Beck on the line, John, howtherck are you?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Jim good?

Speaker 8 (30:56):
Ben?

Speaker 4 (30:56):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
How how did the beckfaan fair in their football games?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
This weekend?

Speaker 6 (31:04):
A successful weekend for the Beck boys all around three wins, so.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
It was good. Yeah, it was. It was a fun
weekend to enjoy some success, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Which was the most satisfying win out of the three?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Well, the littlest, the nine year old, was probably the
most hyped because he scored the game winning touchdown with
like a minute left to go in the game, and
then when the other team got the ball he stilled
it with an interception on like their third play, so
he was probably he was probably the most hyped. He
was the one that wanted to couple, would show his brothers.

(31:40):
You know, you guys got to see my plays on
the camera, so okay, I would say for him, he
it was.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
It was a big win for the little guy.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
You need Uncle Ben needs the film needs to be
able to check tape on this one, so send it
over John as you have time. I need that and
uh to celebrate with him, all right, We'll love it
man John Beck here on ESPN the fan. Glad all
is well in your well by us two and oh baby,
they beat the Stanford Cardinal the acc FO coming into Brigham.

(32:10):
They they've they've avenged you, John, They've avenged you. The
BYU Cougar football team in the modern era twenty twenty
two or twenty twenty five have avenged the losses of
three and four.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
How does that feel? Does it feel to you?

Speaker 8 (32:26):
Know that?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
You know, I know it hurt right back in the
day when you were a true freshman and maybe a
supporting cast that was young, talented. Those losses probably here,
but it's got to feel good as a former Cookxie
and the current Cougars avenge avenge you if you will.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah, it's funny to know that I was catching on
the pregame. I think that was only the fourth time
that the schools o't bet yep? Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (32:51):
Yeah? Like I would have never guessed that, just because
as my time there, we played them twice, you know,
my freshman year that was my first start there at home,
and then my second year that was a game that
during pregame warmups, I was shot up and trying to
see if I could throw the ball and really wasn't.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Very accurate throwing the football.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
But then I ended up playing in the fourth quarter
of that game and we lost it. But it was
weird for me to be like, wait, so we've only
actually played them two more times or were one more time.
This was the fourth outside of those two games, you know,
and both times that we played them, I'm trying to
think my freshman year. I think they actually started a
true freshman as well, Trent Edwards, who is my same

(33:32):
draft class, and so both programs at that time were
a bit in a tough spot. So it's great to
see that BYU, you know, being in a good spot
this year and a solid football team can go out
and get a win against Stanford, and you know, it
looks it is an ACC foe. I know that Stanford's
going through a lot of you know things with their
program right now. You see Andrew Luck on the sideline

(33:52):
trying to rally the troops, and they brought in an
interim coach, but are not interim but a guy that's
going to be there only for a year. But you know,
it's still Stanford. It's still recruiting the way that Stanford recruits.
It's still an ACC program, and I know they had
their struggles offensively, but it's good to see by you
get a win against a program like Stanford. Which you
know has had solid years and you know it does.

(34:15):
It's always nice when you see by you beat a
team that you know recruits. You can kind of say
against b YU, there's a lot of good kids that
they choose between Stanford and BYU.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
And and going back to that two thousand and three
game where when you were a that was your true
freshman season, right.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, yeah, I mean freshman meaning like off of a mission.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, off of.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Freshman, not a freshman off high school.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah yeah, but like it was your first year of
playing college football. And b YU at that time, Okay,
it was in a bit of a rebuild, let's be honest,
coming off of you know, the one uh you know
that that height, that bar had been set, but then
the recruiting maybe wasn't where it needed to be to
a certain degree, and there was a you build under

(35:00):
under Croton two thousand and two, two thousand and three,
and there was a lot of young players that were
required to trot on out and beat a pretty good
stamp Ford team in two thousand and three. And now
this year you look at the contrast Bear Bachmeier twenty
twenty five, true freshman, seeing technically his first start, I mean,

(35:21):
it's his you know, second start. But I mean that
Portland State game was a was an exhibition. It was
just a you know, glorified practice. If you will contrast
those two games, if you will, could you like, I mean,
what you guys were experiencing two thousand and three to
what you guys what you're seeing in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
So you're saying the three game to the twenty five game.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, exactly, like what was happening there in two thousand
and three and then what are you seeing? You know
this BYU football team pretty well twenty twenty five. There's
two There's some common themes. Freshman quarterbacks leading, leading BYU
versus a P four football team with more resources, better recruiting.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
All those things, and you're trying to win on your
home turf.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Yeah, I mean, I think the similarities are, you know,
youth at the quarterback position at that time back in three,
I think BYU had not been to a bowl game
in O two. I know the one season was a
five hundred season. I believe to save Labelle's record of
winning seasons in a row. If like, if my memory's right,
they had to beat Utah at the end of the

(36:32):
year to salvage a non losing season, and then they
had that exciting one season, but two was not a
bowl game team three, we put a lot of young
players on the field around me, Like I just think
back to it felt like we're going to give all
these young guys the experience, knowing down the road, this.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Will be a good football team.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
Because I think the number of times I completed passes
to a young Dan Coates, a young Philip Knew. Mark
Hansen was out there playing receiver who didn't get to finish,
but he was a freshman, same as Knee, just off
his mission.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
I mean, it's funny.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
There was multiple guys just off of missions that year
that were making plays in that three game, and so
tons and tons of you. So that's probably one of
the differences. I look around Bear and there's a lot
of veteran players. There's a system that has been around
that has been you know, been successful. The guys have
spent a lot of time in you know, sometimes it

(37:30):
can be tough when you have multiple coordinators over a
number of seasons. You know, sometimes you'll get collegetable players
that they have two and three coordinators during their time.
It's great that there's been consistency at BYU with a
Rod and Kilane's staff.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
That really helps the development of players. I think also
just what it feels like to be a obsess.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
There's a lot of players on this team that have
been a part of successful seasons, seasons where guys have
gone to Bowl games. Last year's team got to experience
a lot of success, and that does impact the mind
It does impact that the belief around the program of
having good things happen. A lot of the times when
you're in a rebuild, you're having to overcome the belief

(38:10):
and the mindsets of the players that have been a
part of that team over the past couple seasons. You know,
coming off of seasons where you don't go to a
bowl game, there's a lot of things that linger in
the culture and linger in the mentality of a lot
of players, and you really have to have a major
push from within to turn things around and get it
going in the right direction.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
I look at this BYUS team, I think they have
to have a lot.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Of confidence going into this season, a lot of confidence
now being too and oh and I know that there
was some sputtering that happened, you know at times on
the offensive side of the ball. You know, there was
a few plays that didn't work out, a couple of drops,
some air and place, some penalties after a touchdown that
moved the ball backwards, and the BYU.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Has to settle for a field goal. But I would
tend to believe that.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
The belief is that even though we're starting a young quarterback,
there are so many guys on this team with a
lot of common EVI in what's going to happen and
what they can do.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
John. This is what I'm getting at with this question.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
You were a true freshman quarterback that in many ways
was required or maybe even expected to go out and
win a game for bou at Lavelle Edwards Stadium. BYU
fans I think at times look at the quarterback position,
they look at maybe even Bear Bachmeyer, and they're like, hey,
he's got to win football games for him or BYU,

(39:29):
And I'm like, I don't think that's what is happening
right now, and I don't think that should be the expectation.
Bear Bachmeyer should not be required to win football games
for BYU. Everybody else around him should be required to
win football games for BYU, and Bear should manage the
game and not mess it up. Would you say that
that's an accurate depiction of what you're seeing offensively right now, Well,

(39:53):
I would say.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
That I agree to the point that they don't need
to place it on his shoulders. It doesn't need to
all fall on his shoulders.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Right now, with the opponents that they're playing, with the
scheme that they have, and with the talent that's around Bear,
it should be about the other guys. Bear is just distributing,
you know, And yes, is that what quarterbacks are supposed
to do. It is, But when you watch some games,
they know, all right, we are putting it on our

(40:23):
junior or our senior quarterback, and he is going to
go out there and he is going to because of
his ability to create plays, make plays, decision making. We
can actually call a game that puts a lot on
his plate because we know he can carry this team.
And no, that's not what BYU needs to do right now.
That's not what they should be doing right now.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
You know. Bear's when you watch the games right now.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
The way that they're distributing the football and the play calls,
so that it's about taking a lot of that off
of his shoulders. It's still going to allow him to
play football when they need him to play football.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
But they can pick up y'all cards by.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Distributing it in what's called quick little now screens out
on the edges.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
A lot of the times you have a run.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
Play that's built in, and if they don't match numbers
out on the edge, it's just pitching catch to a
receiver out in the perimeter with blockers out in front
of him, so there is no read in some of
the other plays that they run that are built off
of some of their actions, it's the same type thing, right.
It's I'm making a decision, a yes or no decision.

(41:27):
The ball's either being thrown to that player, or I'm
either giving a run or I'm involved in the run
game myself as a quarterback. All of those things take
pressure off of a quarterback decision making.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Are there some plays that he does have to do it?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (41:40):
You see him going through his progressions and you know,
and some of those are the plays where you see
growth needing to happen, and that's always going to happen
with a young quarterback. Do I think that there's going
to be some games coming up in conference where they're
going to have to utilize and rely on more on
some of.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
The things that Bear is going to have to do
from a decision making.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
Stampt absolutely, because teams are going to say, we're going
to do everything we can to stop you from beating
us the way you're winning football right now, and we're
gonna make you play more on your quarterback. That's what
they're going to have to do. Now, Can they match
Yu's personnel. Can they stop Yu's run game to allow
them to do that?

Speaker 5 (42:19):
You know?

Speaker 6 (42:20):
Can they manage the box the way that they hope
to against BYU. That's what teams don't know yet.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
To this point in time.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
BYU has ran really well against their first opponent, and
they ran pretty dang good against Stanford the other night.
Until a team can stop the run game, BYU is
going to be in control of the majority of the time.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
John Beck here on ESPN the Fan rehashing recapping the
BYU Stamper game. Bear Bachmeer as well here on your
Utah ESPN Radio Network. What did you like from Bear's
performance and what would you like to see improved upon
going forward?

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Well, I thought the good thing was this looked like
a football game where you know last week, he threw
the ball times. I think he was seven for eleven,
really didn't have to do a lot, didn't have a
lot of people in his face. This was good for
him because he made a few really good throws with
guys in his face. I thought a great throw was
a little drift throout off of a little gun action

(43:14):
that he kind of fit in a tight window to
chase as his arm was getting hit.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
That was a really, really good throw. He had another
throw to Carson Ryan.

Speaker 6 (43:21):
I believe it was on an out route to biu
sideline a little bit later in the game, might have
been end of the third beginning a fourth. The defensive
lineman for Stanford broke a double team and did a
really good job of getting in Bear's face and he
had to kind of throw from small space. He threw
the ball very on time, very accurate, with guys in
his face. As you have to beat the better football teams,

(43:42):
your quarterback has to be able to make those plays.
So I thought it was good for Bear in his
second start to be able to make some of those
plays of what it's going to feel like in a
kind of a more condensed, tighter pocket more bodies around him.
You could see at times that the space that he
was given was limited, and yes it affected the accuracy
on a few throws. There was a few drops, but

(44:05):
it's what it looks like when you have to play
a better opponent. Now, can BYU do a better job
on not stalling out on some of the drives. Absolutely
did bear airmail the ball to the back corner that
he put a little too much on the chase in
the back corner. Yeah, where there are a couple throws
that could have been a titch more accurate and could
have helped. Yes, now again still a couple drops, but

(44:26):
those are the things that actually as a young developing quarterback,
feeling what that feels like in the game to make
those throws.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
To feel that pressure right in your face, being to
grow from all of that. So it's great to see that.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
He nailed a couple of them, and it's also good
for him just to experience that because as the weeks
come along, I'm telling you, there is going to be
some games.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
Where he's going to be even under murderress.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
And I know where there's some sacks that's part of football,
but that was very much more like what it's going
to feel like in conference playing.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
When you evaluate those sacks, how much of is it
is it protection and how much of it is bear
needing to recognize an extra man coming off the edge
and accounting for that and then getting the ball out
quick or evading the rush or avoiding the rush.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
Yeah. I mean, here's the thing when you go back
and you watch it, the one thing that you don't
know as an observer is you don't know the exact
protection rules and well, and like what I mean by
that is there's some staple protections where based off of
the front, based off of the amount of guys in protection,
you can guess, hey, they're probably going to six man
pro right here, and the line based off of the

(45:38):
front is probably going to sliden the wheel and the
back's on a duel read.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Okay, what if though, going into that week the rules
are tweaked a little bit.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
What if because of what Stanford does, they're now going
to put the scand to the to the line. The
back is going to be singled up on the mic
and you know he was my left tackle supposed to
stay on and right here is.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
My left tackle is supposed to fan all the way
to the widest. Was that on the tackle?

Speaker 6 (46:03):
Because as a quarterback, you know the rules in your head,
and so when you line up and you look at
the front and you see the shell of the safety's
tilt and you think, okay, that nickel might be top
and they can bring the nickel off the edge.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
Well, based on my rules, if I'm in.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
A sort slide away from my back and I anticipate
the tackle to go all the way out to the
nickel coming off the edge, I'm going to play the
game assuming my backside is protected, especially if.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
My eyes are front side on a reed.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
So if all of a sudden the quarterbacks hid in
the back, it's easy to go, oh, why didn't the
quarterback do something? Why didn't the quarterback see them? Or
feeling As a quarterback, you have to anticipate and believe
in your line's protection, especially if your eyes are away
from that so it's hard to judge, like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Sometimes, Hey, was that the tackle that I was supposed
to go?

Speaker 6 (46:51):
There was that bear that was supposed to know that
they're not setting for the widest. Are They sometimes in
what's called as a key or.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
A scan protection where they're.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Running back if he doesn't get front side pressure scans
to the backside.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
It could have been on the running back.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
So until you know the rules, you actually can't go
in and place any responsibility on the quarterback, the line,
or the running back.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
And that's why sometimes some of the media personalities that
you see.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
Across college football and the NFL and they start to
become critical of the line or the backs or the quarterback.
Until you are actually in the room and you know
the rules of what's going on, you can't give any criticism.

Speaker 8 (47:27):
So really what it goes down to is and that
might have been a long answer, but that's a football
answer right there, and what goes on in the meetings
and how the coaches and team will talk about situations
until you know that it's all going to be about
the growth of the group in general.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
And so you know, some of the sacks, like it
was tight, and some of the sacks had good coverage.
And for Bear, right now, you go back to that
thing where you said Bears not being asked to win
football games. He's being asked to be smart. Sometimes those
sacks are smart. Hey, there's limited space around you. You know,
your your primary and secondary read in.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
The progression are not open. Don't go force the ball somewhere.
Don't go just throw it up hoping something can happen.
You can live to take a sack right here. Take
a sack, go to second or third.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Down, or punt the ball right now. You know Stanford's
offense was really struggling, so there's no need to force anything.
The game's out on the line. You know you got
a seventeen to twenty point lead, twenty three point lead,
whatever it was. It's fine, take a sack, move on
to the next play.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
John Beck breaking down the BYU Stanford game, as well
as bear Bachmeers play here on ESPN The Fan brought
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there any individual efforts, any execution, either offensively or defensively
that stood.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Out to you in this game? Be it LJ.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Martins, you, Ony moa offensive, Chase Roberts had a pretty
good game defensively, Isaiah Glask, Jack Kelly Keanu, Toadavasa, John
Tommoy Peyo, a lot of great plays.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Raider de Mooney had a really nice play on that
pick and his return.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Anyone that you thought hey had a great game, good
individual performance.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
Well, I think it was good to see our backs
have some chunk runs against a better defensive front, and
so you know, and you got to tip your hat
to the offensive line because they're the ones creating it.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
But I thought it was good to see breaking through some.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
Arm tackles, getting into the second level and having some
chunk runs.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Those are really really big to what they do to
a defense.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
You talk about explosive plays, it's very easy as an
offense to be like, we need to create explosive plays,
and you look to the pass game for explosive plays.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
BYU has done a good job.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
In previous years of getting some explosive plays off of
option plays. You know, you saw Jake Retzlof a number
of times on some key third downs, a nice little
option play that would pick up twenty plus yards. To
be able to pick up explosive plays in the run game,
I thought was great to see, especially against better front. Yes,

(50:01):
the defense, you know, not an individual but group defense,
I thought did a great job. Anytime you pitch a
shutout for that long in a game, it's a great thing.
But I just think when I look back to, Okay,
me being an offensive guy and.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
Some of the stuff that stood out.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
Man, you love to see some chunk plays from your
run game as an offensive coordinator. That helps you in
the play calling as well. You look at BYU later
in the game.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
You know, I want to say it was the fourth quarter.
Beginning of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
BYU had probably only thrown the ball for about one
hundred and ten to one hundred and twenty yards really
without a chunk play in the pass game. And you
see the big post that they were able to get
to chase later in the game, and you look at
the box in the front and the safety down into
the box.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
A lot of that can be traced back.

Speaker 6 (50:50):
To run game and creating chunk plays in the run
game and what an opponent is going to try to do.
And now maybe it could because later in the game
they anticipated in BYU trying to run the clock and.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
So they bring the safety down. But when I look
to how.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
Do you create chunk plays off play pass, it's having
a consistent run game that also creates explosive plays in
the run game and what that does to a defense
and how then you can start to dictate some of
the shot plays the keeper game and the things that
you can do off of play pass.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
As a coordinator, I wanted to go back to the
Chase Roberts throw.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Bear from the opposite hash had a nice timing throw
on a comeback and Chase was dialed in on his footwork,
came back to it and created some space and was
able to get some yak as well. I think that
was the past you were talking about. To the field side,
What did you make of that particular throw. I didn't

(51:46):
think it was like a high velocity throw, but it
was a great timing throw. It may have floated a
little bit, but that gave me a little bit more
optimism John that Bear can get the ball out there.
It's a little bit lower trajectory on his ball than
I would like when guys are running under it on
the deep post to Chase, but he's got good enough.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Arm strength, I think, to make most of the throws well.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
If you look at that comeback throw, the impressive thing
was the trust because when Bear let that ball go,
that defensive player.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Actually had a decent position. They were locked up.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
Like in all honesty, had he turned that throw down,
you also wouldn't have knocked him for turning the throw
down because the defender really didn't give a.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Ton of space. He squatted a little bit at the
top of Chase's route. You know, Chase had to.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
Do a lot to create separation at the top of
that route to come down. So the impressive thing was
actually the trust that Bear had to make that throw
in Chase.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
The location that Bear threw that ball. I think one
of the reasons why he put a little you know,
loft on it was because trying to get.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
The ball there faster with more zip would not have
helped because of how they were tied up at the
top of that route. He basically just had to post
up on the corner and then Bear needed to throw
a ball downhill and away and let Chase use his
big frame and extension.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
To go get that ball.

Speaker 6 (53:11):
So when I look at plays like that, that is trust.
That's a young quarterback trusting his senior receiver and saying, look,
the ball needs to get out right now, and I'm
gonna throw it because I have the confidence that if
I put this down in a way, you're going to
come back and you're going to make sure that it's
you that gets this ball, not the defender. And so

(53:31):
you know, and it's like I said, too. It's also
trust in his body. Chase is a very big framed guy.
It's what's some of the NFL teams I know are
going to be interested in as they evaluate him. But
to me, that is a guy just saying you're gonna
make this play.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
I know you're gonna make it. I'm gonna give you
this chance.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Great breakdown.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
John Beck here on ESPN the Fan, what did you
make of that deep ball from Bear Bachmeyer to Chase Roberts.
Nice little play action was able to just grip and
rip coming out of that seven step drop and play
action game and Chase created separation and it was a
big chunkyardist play good momentum.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Yeah, you know, they took a shot earlier in the game.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
It was a little tricky because the single high safety
did go to the to the move with the over
route and then tried to kind.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
Of rechrace back over the post, and it was Bear
had to keep it skinny and it just was overshot
the littlest bit.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
And I know in last week's game there were a
few downfield throws that kind of hung on him a
little bit and ended up just like a little.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Short where guys had to come back and make plays.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
So for Bear, I thought it was great because this
was probably the first ball on a shot type play
that he just dropped right in the bucket, you know,
and it was a pre snap alert because there was
no safety and they got the exact look that you
wanted to get. You saw similar plays Zach's year, Jaron's
year in the really a fifth game, you would see

(54:57):
them get up and really the way that the safety
he were playing so low and close to the box,
you know you're going to have that post alert. Chase
did a great job of creating separation and Bear dropped
it in perfectly and strive, so you know, to me,
it was their first true alert shot play of the
season that worked out really really well, and the timing
and accuracy was really on.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
John.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Last thing from you before we let you go bye
week is here and b Yu, I'm sure we'll work
on a few things Chase Roberts mentioned for his Bible.
He's like, I'm just going to get a ton of
reps with Bear and just get our timing down. I'm
sure he's got to work with all of the wide receivers,
but you know, you do have some load management in there.

(55:39):
But like, how many reps are you would you advise
Bear to get with his wide receivers, and especially Chase Roberts.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Well, I think it's.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
Early in the season, so it's not like a week six,
week seven, where a lot of times it's so much
about the body, like.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Let me get away. I can see why guys would
be hungry.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
I think the other reason is is they probably understand
that you know, they through eleven times seven completions in
the first game. I don't have the stats off the
top of my head for this game, but like I said,
going into the fourth quarter, BYU is barely over one
hundred yards passing, and so they're looking to the future
knowing we're gonna need to be at a certain level

(56:22):
where we start hitting these tougher opponents.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Bear is still very new to BYU. I believe he
got there in June, so you're talking about a guy
that's been been at the school for three months.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
You know, hats off to Chase for recognizing the importance
and the value of that chemistry and being on the
same page and the timing and consistency you need to have.
He understands it, and I'm sure Bear does as well.
And when your body's fresh, go in and put in
some work.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
I mean BYU will practice during the.

Speaker 6 (56:49):
Bye week, they'll probably take opportunities to build.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
On exactly what Chase is saying, knowing what's coming in
the future. You know.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
The one thing about an early bye week is it
makes it where you have to be very smart as
the season progresses, because.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
You're going to have a chunk of games that.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Are just going to be strung out one after another,
and you got to really manage everybody's bodies. That's one
of the tough things about the chemistry between the wide
receivers and the quarterbacks as the season continues. Reps are
usually far more limited as the season goes, and so
you want to build a lot of that chemistry before
the season starts, because when it comes to reps, you

(57:28):
do not get enough reps in practice to rep every play.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
A lot of the times when I played.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
There, me and the White House would stay after practice
because we knew that there were certain things that were
going to come up and maybe we'd only repped once
or twice that week and we needed more of it
as we headed into game, or something pops up on
a Wednesday or Thursday, and you realize, hey, we might
get a variation of looks right here. Let's make sure
that we stay after practice and we get a few

(57:54):
of these throws in because.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
There's a good chance we're going to see it in
the game. It's just too hard to get those with
everybody in practice. You've got to find time on your own.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Gotta find time the extra time. John, Actually, one last thing,
three DQB. Many parents listen to our show. Many football
players listen to show. I know they may not get
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(58:25):
want to align with three DQB Train three DQB dot com.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Yeah, just shoot us an email.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
We have an information page there, and we have somebody
that's monitoring all the emails and stuff, and so you know,
we have guys that already reach out with Hey, is
there any way you know, like for example, bye week, Hey,
my bye week's coming up. I've played my first three
games of high school football. You know, I would love
some insight. You know, my coaching staff gives me insight
on some things. I would love some more insight on

(58:51):
some of the things that I can be doing.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
And a lot of it is kids that.

Speaker 6 (58:54):
We've trained during the off season and they just want
some feedback on what they're likes are like, what their
feet are like. Are they maintaining all of the things
that they've worked on throughout the season. You know, when
you don't have a trained eye that's getting to watch
it every single day. At times, especially kids that are
playing through maybe a dinged ankle of you know, a
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(59:17):
their shoulders, somebody gets hit in their forearm, their hand,
like little things like that can have them take a
little toll on the mechanics, and so a lot of
the times it's about tightening those things up. It's about
a tune up when time is right, and so a
lot of guys will reach out and send some film
and that can definitely happen.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
John, We appreciate you as always. Thanks for hopping on
for a little keeping up with the Cougars and delving
into this BYU Stanford game.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
We'll catch up with the end next week. Thanks for
joining us.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Yep, You're welcome. Sounds great, guys. We'll see you theego.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
That's John Beck of Train three DQB dot com. I
really liked what he.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Had to say about BYU's run game, and we've continued
to harp on that throughout Fall Camp, leaning into the
Aaron Roderck commentary of in his declaration that b Way's
going to be able to run the game, run the ball,
and they're gonna run it well. I think the only
criticism coming out of this Stanford game should be, actually,

(01:00:12):
we should have run the ball more and a Rod
should have trusted l J. Moore Moore and gotten maybe
even Joe Ves involved. If it's working, you can you
can continue to go with that script. You don't have
to always lean to your play actions, you don't always
have to lean into your screen game. Make them stop
it before you deviate from it. And I think that's

(01:00:35):
a you know, coming out of the coming out of
the second half, you saw that coming out of the
first half, you saw that Aaron was much more run
focused rather than being balanced, and that balance sometimes can
put your true freshman quarterback in a in a in

(01:00:56):
a sticky situation. Even to start the game with a
quick screen to Jojo Phillips, they were trying to get
Jojo involved early and often. You saw that in the
play calling, which I like like. I think Jojo had
a good game. We wish him well. His shoulders a
little bit dinged w was in a sling in the
post game. We'll see how long he's out for. I
understand why he was trying to implement Jojo into the

(01:01:19):
game plan and get him started off right, but it
may have been best to just hand the ball off
to LJ and ride him to victory versus that Stamford
defensive front because he was dominant and so was the
offensive line. My only criticism this game is first half,
we probably should have run the ball more, and even

(01:01:40):
if it was Joe Vesso or even if it was
Preston Rex, you know, just to spell LJ and Shonick.
I would have liked to have seen that for Stamford
to stack the box and then get your one on ones,
which you did finally in the second half. That's why
you saw Chase on the deep comeback. That's why you
saw Chase on the d posts because they had to begin.

(01:02:02):
Stanford's defense had to be a little bit more aggressive
to stop the run. John Beck Ladies and gentlemal guys
that you guys want to comment on that, Ronnie real quick.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
Yeah, I agree with you, I said, you know, and
to you, Ben, I said, it looks like he's getting
a little too cute. And what I mean by that
lot of extra that you really didn't need too much movement.
And I understand you want to get Jojo because he
didn't really get involved last week.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
But Ben, what did I? And I put this tweet
out right and you liked it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
LJ.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Martin has carried the ball how many times?

Speaker 7 (01:02:29):
Twenty six has overtured to so many yards and he
hasn't gotten an end zone yet, which is crazy, averaging
a nine point six yards per carry.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
It's crazy to think of that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:37):
And then that first drive in the second half, thirteen plays,
they ran the ball eight times and then what happened?
You got into the endzone. I think that's the recipe
he been. He went back to the Oklahoma State running
the ball constantly, constantly. I would have loved to see
that more. But that's why you have to buy That's
why you look at the film. And I think going
on the road, Ben, if you want to set up
play action pass, if people are going to play Chase

(01:02:57):
Roberts single coverage. If you want to take that deep shot.
LJ and Shionam, Preston and jil Vesa all need to
be told the football.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I agree.

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