Cheesier than Normal

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, big brother, what is that lovely smell?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Dear sister, I believe we have HouseGuests on their way.
Momsy calls this shared quterie.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh well, I have no idea what that means, but
I smell so many cheeses and meet some yummy things.
If she means to share it, why did she put
it up so high?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Perhaps, dear sister, to keep it from the farmhouse mice
we are contractually obligated to ignore.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Oh that makes sense, well, big brother, how long do
we have to wait? I smell cheddar and good and
Swiss and sausage and pepperoni and cheddar and mozrella and
Havardian cheddar and oh, big brother, I'm so hungry.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Fear not, dear sister, I shall give you a boost.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I am so small and oh so very hungry. When
troubles come and foot is out of reach, then I
am stood wait here in the kitchen until you come
and offer to help me.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
You raise me up, sir, I can reach the table.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You raised me up with the legend for renees. I
am tall. When I am on your shoulders.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
You raise me up so I can reach the cheesesh.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
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I forgot to turn off the fan. I bet you
that was a lovely sound for our audience. Well, welcome

(03:08):
everybody to another counter culture wise show. We have a really,
really fun show for you today. Because it's all about
Fritzy's favorite thing, geez, and she happens to be in
the room with us. Actually, everybody is in the room
with us in the room, and they all promise that

(03:30):
they behave themselves. Yeah, so hopefully Max won't take over
the mic like he usually does. But let's let's hope
that they all behave themselves. Welcome, everybody, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
I am your hostess with the most distort, at least
a lot of stuff. Anyway, my name is Melanie. I
got a lot going on. I got junk in my
drunk let me tell you, Melanie Hope. That's me, yes,

(03:54):
surre Barbaruski. And with me, yeah, not just any Melanie Hope.
I am of the Melanie Hope. And don't let anybody
tell you anything otherwise. I'm the one. And with me
is my co host, my husband, my very best friend
next to Jesus, and of course my sweet baboo, mister James.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
What a friend she does.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Have, heaving Jesus. All right, yardy, yardy.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I've already gotten ahead of my new job because I
was I was reading how to land that job articles
before I got this, and it always says, dress for
the job you want, not for the job you have.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is that why you've been wearing a clown makeup?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yes, that's exactly why.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's not what that was.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
No, I'm just gonna leave it alone the room. So
I went in as Batman.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I like that. I like that the Batman. That's a
good angle.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
What do you some kind of.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Funny funny Yes, alrighty, well we don't usually like to
start our shot up dead people, but we had some
significant losses.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
This absolute legend. Yeah, we couldn't let this one go. Yeah,
did you want to start by singing?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Or do you wait?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I guess I could do that. Well, I think people
will know who we're talking about. Let's see here, busted
flat and Baton rouge, wait for the train. I was
feeling as faded as my jeans. Bobby the under diesel
down just before rain that wrote us all the way

(05:47):
to New Orleans. I pulled my harpoon out of my
dirty red Bandanna.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
I was playing surf for babbies, sank the blues. Yeah,
win chill have a slap in time. I was pullding
Bobby's hand in mine. We sing every song that driving.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Freedom is just a lot of word fun, nothing left
to lose, nothing that meant nothing, a good act free,
don't know. Yeah, feeling good was he loved when we
sang the Blue Hooes. You know, feeling good was good
enough for me, good enough for me and my mother.

(06:34):
Hm hmm.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah. The legendary actor singer Rhodes Scholl.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
He was a good actor too.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Heck of a good looking guy, scholar. Yes, yes, we'll
find out more about that in the moment. But my
mom had a gigantic crush.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
He was a good looking was.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That looking guy? And yeah, just amazing. Chris Christofferson, the
legend every country singer and acclaimed actor, died peacefully in
his home in Maui, Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
How old was he eighty eight? Wow, it's hard to
I just you know, they're forever that age in my head,
you know, and it ain't.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
You think of him around the time. Look the seventies
when he did A Star is Born. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
And I just watched that recently because I had never.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Seen it, the version with Chris.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, because I want to do I've ever seen with Gaga,
So I thought, well, I can't watch that version until
i've seen you.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Know, they're different. They're very different, but the storyline is
about the same. No cause of death has been given
as of now. Christofferson's career music he was eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
What cause of death do?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah? That's pretty much. That's a good cause of death being.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
He made eighteen studio albums. He appeared in dozens of
theatrical and television movies between the seventies and the twenty tens.
He won three Competitive Grammys from thirteen nominations, and also
nominated for an Academy Award and won a Golden Globe.
His gravelly voice and complex poetic lyricism made him a
favorite among his contemporaries. He was born in Brownsville, Texas,

(08:13):
in nineteen thirty six. His creative career began as literature
student at Pomona College, where he wrote essays that Atlantic
Monthly published During college, he also competed in rugby, football
and track and field, so he appeared in Sports Illustrated
in nineteen fifty eight. That same year, he received a
Rhodes scholarship and attended Oxford, where he studied poetry. He

(08:34):
became an accomplished boxer and wrote some of his earliest songs.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
None of this. This is insane.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
This is some insane stuff. The guy had a really
varied life, is a true renaissance man. After he earned
his masters, he joined the US Army and became a
helicopter pilot and no seriously, he formed a band while
stationed in West Germany. After he left the army, he
moved to Nashville, where he worked as a jam or
at Columbia Records. While writing songs. There, Christofferson met June Carter,

(09:05):
whom he gave a demo of his tape, a demo
tape of his music to pass along to her husband,
Johnny Cash. After weeks without a reply, that's awesome, Christofferson
landed a helicopter in Cash's.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yard to get his A dash would definitely.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Cash wasn't there at the time. Oh but probably a
good thing. He wrote songs.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think Johnny would have taken that instride.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
They they worked together a lot in the future in
later years. That that group, the Highwaymen, with those two
and Whylan and Willie, Oh my gosh, great great group.
He wrote songs that became moderate hits for the performers,
including Dave Dudley, Ray Stevens, Jerry Lee, Lewis and eventually Cash.
He signed Epic in nineteen sixty seven, later Monument Records,

(09:52):
where he released his debut album nineteen seventy titled Christofferson.
I listened to it for the first time last year.
You know, almost every song and there became a standard.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, you know, he like Barry Man alone in his
writing the world, writing the world that makes the whole song.
Seeing again, Yeah, that one. Let's say that that sounds
good for nothing if not professional here.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
It was renamed Me and Bobby McGee in nineteen seventy
one because it came after Christofferson's ex girlfriend. Her name
happened to be Janis. I didn't either until I read this.
Recorded Me and Bobby McGee for her album Pearl, which
was released posthumously, and it was a number one hit.
You know, made him lots of money. He also wrote
songs for Joe Simon, Bobby Bear, Kenny Rogers, and Moore.

(10:40):
His first Grammy as was for Help Me Make It
Through the Night, winning Best Country Song. There's a photo
of him with his then wife Rita Coolidge. Though he
released several albums in the seventies, he spent the latter
part of the decade, launching his acting career. So he
was in the last movie Cisco Pike, Pat Garrett and

(11:02):
Billy the Kid, which I've seen is really good. Supporting
role in Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. He
was in the movie Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, which
was the basis for the TV show Alice. I've seen
the TV show, never the movie.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, I've never seen the movie.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
He was in A Star Is Born. That's his biggest,
well best, well known movie with Barbara streisand it was
the second highest grossing movie of the year seventy six.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Behind ro You know what, I'm gonna be honest. Yeah,
I loved his performance. I even liked her performance. But
I really hated the movie.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, it's just bad.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, it's a horrible story. I mean, yeah, depressing. He
was also in the infamous flop movie Heaven's Gate. But
I saw the movie and he was good in that one.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I think I remember that movie.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
But that was a lot. It crashed a movie studio
so bad it costs it cost forty four million dollars
to make, which in nineteen eighty was a bunch of money,
and it tanked. He was inducted in Nashville Hall of Fame,
the Songwriters Hall of Fame, the Country Music Hall of Fame,
Lifetime Achievement Grammy Lifetime.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Every stink in one of them, Every stink in one
of them.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Also, like I said in Heaven's Gate, Flashpoint, Millennium, Lone Star,
The Blade Trilogy, really Planet of the Ape, Tim Burton's
Plan of the Apes and Dolphin Tail Duology. He is
survived by his wife, Lisa Myers, eight children and seven grandchildren.
So raise a glass to this legendary guy. He was

(12:45):
one of a kind. He will be missed.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Tank his water in that one, thank you. He raises
his empty glass, poor man, Tank. Well here's you, mister
Christopher's adnoidy. Who's at old? He will forever be.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
This is always he's always this picture of him with
his guitar. That's how I remember him, guitar, guitar.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I can't find the picture of the guitar.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
That's okay, I remember.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Him, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he was he was, I mean,
and he aged very well.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
He aged extremely He.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Aged in a Clint Eastward.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Sorry, sorry you crushes dead mom, Sorry mama, sorry, mama.
She butt dialed me. Today.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
That was cute because usually when she calls you, there's
something she needs to tell you, So for her butt
dialing you, that's that's cute. All right, Moving right along
to the next dead person, Next dead.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Person, your turn. I'm not as into the Harry Potter
franchise as you.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Well, I was really into Downtown Abbey. So yeah, so
this this, this one, this one hurts a little bit,
Maggie Smith. I mean, when you think of somebody in
their eighties, that's who you think of. You don't think
of Chris Christofferson, and yet they're the same age. It's
just that we didn't get to know her until later.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Although she had Yeah I saw when I was a kid.
I didn't make the cause.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, long beautiful career is just we don't you know,
we don't know well, it looks as young and don't
don't know them all. So yep, Dame Maggie Smith, one
of Britain's best known actresses, whose long career arranged from
starring opposite Laurence Olivier and Othello. I have not seen that,

(14:35):
but I would love to on stage enrolls in Harry Potter, which,
of course our younger folks will recognize her and Downtown
Abbey where I met her and loved her, and yeah
she was eighty nine. That is a good ripe page.
It was with great sadness we have to announce the

(14:56):
death of Dame Maggie Smith. She passed away peacefully in
early this morning. An intensely private person, she was with
friends and family at the end. She leaves two sons
and five loving grandchildren who are devastated by the loss
of their extraordinary mother and grandmother. She had a wonderful
sense of humor. We'd like to take this opportunity to
think the wonderful staff at the Chelsea Westminster Hospital for

(15:20):
their care and unstinting kindness during her final days. Okay,
I don't understand half those words, but okay. She was
born in nineteen thirty four in Ilford, then a middle
class Oh god, I was born middle class. Yeah yeah,
Lennon Suburbs. Shortly before the start of World War Two,
the family moved to Oxford, where her father worked as

(15:41):
a peet pathologist, not a patholologist, but a pathologist that's
the thing at Oxford University and a lot of high
falute and pinky lifting there and graduating from High School.
Smith attended the Oxford Playhouse School from nineteen fifty one
to fifty three, making her stage debut in an Oxford

(16:03):
University at Dramatic Society production of William Shakespeare's Twelfth Night.
She went on to appear on Broadway in New Faces
of nineteen fifty six, and then held the lead comedian
role in the London review share My Lettuce between nineteen
fifty seven and Letus. She soon began appearing regularly in

(16:24):
plays at the Old Vic Theater in London. Anyways, I'm
not going to go through the whole thing. You can
find the links on.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Respect.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
This is how I know her. This is how I
know her. Watch lets sometime the Dowager Countess. You get
so involved. I did stop watching, though, and they killed
off my favorite characters. The same thing with The Walking Dead.
I just, yeah, you kill off my favorite characters. I'm out,
so but yeah that.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
My favorite all that show is the guy with the
with the with the baseball back covered in.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah. See, he's the one who killed my favorite character.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Figures.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I didn't like him.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Nobody likes him. That's why.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Horrible character.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
He's a horrible guy.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, he's just evil. Anyways, the twinkle in her eye
made that twinkle forever sparkle in the sky. We will
miss you, and she had a good, long, prosperous life
and we are all blessed to have had her.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
We are moving from dead people to dead retailer.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
One like this.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Is really sad. Any of us who grew up in
the fifties, sixties, seventies when this store was.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
A part of my childhood, I remember going to the
one in Fixture, Kent, Yeah, which I guess later we
came pay and pack and then that went away too.
No wait, no, no, no, those are on opposite sides of
cam anyways, Yeah, with the popcorn there was.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
One that became a hardware store. I mean, it's just
it's sad. And anyway, the last full sized cam Art.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Where else can you get layaway and pay off for years?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I know it was that was that was the thing.
Cam Art, one of America's most iconic department store chains,
is closing its last full size store in the United
States this fall. The store, located in Bridgehampton, New York,
on the South Fork of Long Island, will close its
doors for good on October twentieth. An employee confirmed the WJA.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
I still cannot believe that came art of all plays,
I mean, that is so much part of our I
mean even young kids. Not a specialist off.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
The beaten path here, but the company that owned Sears
and km Art, they were all about selling off the
property because bad state was more important.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Bad leadership.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, crappy leadership, that's I mean. I'm sure the website
will still be there so you can order stuff, but
it's not the same. Real estate investment trust Kimco Realty,
which owns the shopping center, also come from the story
be closing. According to Newsday, kim Ko did not share
any details about why the store was closing.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
A smaller nobody shops there, that would be the detail.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
That would be the detail. A smaller Kmart in Miami,
Florida will remain open, but it pales in comparison to
the storefronts the big box store chain you sed to
operating it's heyday. When I lived in Atlanta, there was
one huge one that was actually two stories. It was
not something you.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Saw two story camar a two story camar.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Each story was gigantic, and yeah, you'd go down the
escalator into the into this you know, the basement floor
which had the Christmas trees and the hardware and.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Stuff with the basement at the one. Oh no, they
didn't have a basement. I'm thinking of Seers where the washing.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Machines right right. That series South Center is still there.
It's one of the very few less yeah still series
and it is still there. Miami location of Camaruth Center.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
For those who don't know, is in the southern part
of Washington State, just south south central Yo.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
And it has that vibe Yo. Despite the fact that
they really tried to gentrify it and make it a
better still, it's still ghettos. Its ghetto is Ghetto.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
AA, Ghetto AF.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
The Miami location is closer in sized with CVS or
the convenience store Corn too an August report. However, kmart
still has several stores outside the States that will remain
open in the US, Virgin Islands and Guam. Camart's origins
date back to eighteen ninety nine, when Sebastian Sperring Kresky
founded his first store, a modest five and diamond Detroit.

(20:51):
According to Transform called the Jerks Holding company that owned Kmart.
All cres quickly expanded his reach over the next decade
under the name ss Kresky Company, and by nineteen twelve
at eighty five stores around the US. The first official
came Art opening Garden City, Michigan in nineteen sixty two.

(21:13):
That same year, seventeen additional stores opened around the US. Now,
that was the same year that Sam Walton launched Walmart,
and also the year that Dayton Hudson launched the Target stores.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Where was Walmart launched? Because Lalmart was like a brand
new thing to us in Washington and it was no, it.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Was in Arkansas, And the first ones I went to
were in the eighties when I lived in Alabama.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, I don't think it was like they didn't they didn't, Yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Nineties and before they moved into the Seattle market.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah. And I didn't really shop at Walmart until we
moved to Vegas, right, because I mean we went without
hitting a wall.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
We went to the one outside of the super mall
in Hauburn, and then they moved that one to the
other side of the super mall for reasons I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Didn't really barely remember that.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, well I barely remember it now.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I remember Target. Target was a big deal because first
it had its own. It was over there by the
toys r USTs, which is now empty as well. And
then they moved into the mall and it took over
the whole back end of the mall.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Well, I mean that took up the space that was Mervin's,
which is another once successful store the way yea bye bye.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
You know, I think it was basically just a more
expensive series have changed.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
We've gone to the I mean Target and Walmart still
exists because of the big box discount stores. You got
stores like best Buy. You got these gigantic stores. The
mom and pops are gone. Everybody's buying and.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
We're not any different Big Lots.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
No more Big Lots is going to But the you
know we all shop online. Amazon is great. Yeah, but
it's you know, the public's needs have changed. The public's
uh I mean we shot, we could shop, we can
eat everything.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Was the first one to do the uh pick up
in the online grocery shopping before the pandemic, right, I mean, there.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Used to be grocery stores that would deliver to your house.
But but that was different.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Back then there was like five houses in town to
deliver toy. Now it's just there are too many people
it's saturated.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
So Kmart had two three hundred stores at its height
and now.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's fifty thousand employees.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Melanie was one.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Briefly they paid cash. You, Yeah, your paychecks were in cash,
at least the one I worked at.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
That's shady.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I got I got fired.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
That's really shy.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Seriously, I got fired from Kmart. They brought me into
the office and I had the shortest lines because that
was a cashier at the shortest lines. Because what happened
is if they would bring the item and it had
the UPC code and it wouldn't scan, I would just
type it in and move along. Well, apparently if you
don't scan, it didn't hit whatever metric they needed you

(24:09):
to hit, and that upset them very much. Well, if customers,
lahurved me because if it didn't scan, you'd have to
do price check and then sit there and wait and
do the thing and whatever. But if you just typed
it in, boom, bob's your uncle. Off you go. And
since I had taken you know, I was in an
accounting at the time. Yeah, I tend two ten. That

(24:32):
was our our goal was two ten digits a minute. Sorry, yeah,
two ten a minute.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
So I was like.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Blink, you know, so if it didn't scan, so it.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Didn't properly record the inventory.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well it did though, because you still had to enter
the blasted thing. But their metric was based on the
beep apparently. So they called me into the office and
they said, and I am not making this up, ladies
and gentlemen, I am not making this sup. She swears
you are not Kmart material. And I said, oh, does
the blue light clash with my skin tone? I have

(25:14):
been fired more times than I care to mention. I
get fired a lot, but I have never been fired
into situation where I was like thanking them when they
told me I wasn't Kmart materials, like, thank you, thank you.
I was like, it was like getting the oscar. They
love me, They love me, I am not Gamart material. Yay, Okay,

(25:39):
So granded print was hard that week, but I was
so happy I was not Gamart material. That was the
nicest thing anybody's ever said to me. Outside of face.
That was pretty nice. But yeah, being told I'm not
angel face not Kmart material, They're up there like neck
and neck. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
They even had their own internet service for a while,
blue light dot Com.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Did they really see things like that would have kept
them ahead of the game. But then they sold to
and more on and yeah that was that just like
serious lost Craftsman.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
I mean that is a heart Well, they they were smart,
you know in a way because they were getting rid
of the stores. But they understood the value of brands
like ken Moore and Craftsman. So those still exists even though.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Best commercials, the Ken Moore best commercials. So hey, our
audience is back. We got newts on the window. Do
you love that We have a live audience here.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
So before we talk about this next thing, the next
Innocent until proven guilty.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, it's hard because you kind of want to be
on his.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Side, but he's which is really difficult because he's such
a jerk. But but he owned up. He owned up
to the truth because he was you know, New York
City was a sanctuary city in river so they started
just in Texas, he started sending a bunch of illegals.

(27:14):
I'm sorry, undocumented migrants. I worked for the State of Texas.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I'm not crying out loud. They're illegals, they're illegal aliens.
Let's just call them what they are.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
It's all fine.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, so fish eating Vegan mayor as we'd like to
call him, or Chuck likes to call him. And by
the way, there will be a Chuck this week, so
it's he is out in the field doing research, but
he will be on this week, So do tune in
for Chuck's grand adventures, at least the Chuck Report.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Anyway, our friend Mary or Eric Adams has been undicted
on federal criminal charges because because he spoke truth.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
To power, and it's true because what he's being like
I said, I really hate being on the guy's side
because he really is a jerk. But what they're bringing
him up on is so tiny. It's basically like a fine,
a slap on the risk. Hillary did two hundred billion
times worse and she just got a slap on the
wrist and a find.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
She shows up in Chucks Report.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh, I bet she does.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
So he was indicted, making him the first mayor of
New York to be charged while in office. Do the indictment,
he didn't even get good.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I mean they're saying, oh, he got paid for traveling
good seats. He didn't get private jets or anything.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
The indictment comes following an investigation on whether he conspired
with the Turkish government to funnel illegal foreign donations into
his coffers in exchange for pressing the Fire Department to
approve a a new high rise Turkish consulate Midtown despite
safety concerns.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Sounds really bad.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
The indictment comes after Adams's police commissioner, his school's chancellor,
and his health commissioner all bugged off from their position.
On September fifth, FBI raided the homes of two of
his top aides, first Deputy Mayor Sheena Wright and Deputy
Mayor for Public Safety Phil Banks. New York City Hall

(29:11):
Chief council Lisa Zornberg also resigned from a position followed
the following the resignation of NYPD Commissioner Edward Kman after
the road, Am I just weird?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Or is this whole FBI raiding your home and your
office thing? Kind of you never heard about this before? Now,
like FBI is rating everybody. It's like the Spanish inquisition.
Every time you open the door, nobody expects you know,
why why are we doing this all of a sudden.
This is like everybody's getting FBI rated everybody, and you

(29:44):
get an FBI rated, you.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Get an FBI raid and anyway. He once called himself
the future of the Democratic Party and the Biden of Brooklyn. Boy.
I hope he to retracted that.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Who calls himself that he does? Why would you call
yourself the Biden of anything?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I don't know. However, the mayor's chances of winning a
second term, as well as serving out the remainder of
his termer in jeopardy. There's calls for his resignation. Not surprising.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
But who they want to stick in She's awful.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Oh, Jermaine Williams, She's pretty awful. She's she'd be so
far to the left, she'd be right.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Be stupid, which is what they want.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, And he said I always knew that if I
stood my ground for New Yorkers, that would be a target,
and the target I became. Mister Adam sixty four said in
a statement.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Will be in office. By the way, if I am.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Charged, I am innocent, and I will fight this with
every ounce of my strength and spirit. I think this
is because he called out the Biden Harris regime. And
I'm not going to separate the two names until.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Fifth But whatever it is the Biden Harris regime, I
call it the Harris Biden regime. Let's just be honest,
the embarrassed. Even Biden himself says, she's the one who
was running there.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Well half the time, he doesn't even know what room
he's in or what colorless pants are.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Chocolate ice cream is though, Yeah, so he's.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
He finally realized that the toll that illegal migration has
been taking on the city of New York, and he
was fighting it and he called out the administration on it.
I think that's the basis of all of this. They're
just flexing their muscles. And I'm not saying that he's innocent.

(31:33):
I'm not saying he's a saint. He could have very
well done these things. It just smells bad to me.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, yeah, it just smells me. And like I said,
I'm not on his side by any stretch of imagination,
because he is an awful, awful human being and I've
never liked him, he's a joke. Yet kind of on
his side for this one. Just I hate to admit it.
I just I'm kind of on his side on this one.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well, that's all right, we'll see what happens. Yeah, we
got lots of time, nothing but lots of time. What
is this nonsense about the Walt the former Walt Disney company. Well, sorry,
I call it the former Walt Disney.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
This is the rentable question of the week. Well, this
rant is more about the reporting of the question than
it is about the actual issue. Okay. So you know
the characters that they dress up, the people and the

(32:33):
costumes and whatever. Okay, and you know how Disney's gone
completely woke and everything. So there was this big pushback
about tinker Bell. If you watch the original movie, the
original cartoon is jealous of Peter Pan and Wendy, and

(32:54):
because she's adorable, apparently the body positivity, folks haven't issue
with her. So she was actually but real people would
dress up as her, so she was pulled as a
character from one of the parks. Okay. So then you know,
some folks started talking about it as if it were

(33:16):
a big thing, and then of course it became you know,
Republicans pounce or react or whatever, because it's never the
story is never about the story. The story is about
how the opposition reacts to it. So I'm never saying
it right, routers.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Ruders, It's it's actually pronounced reuter.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Before the show, I could have, but it's more fun
to make fun of them because they're so terrible. I
don't care to pronounce their name.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's a French company, it's going to be pronounced.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Okay. Anyway, they did a fact check, which of course
means they got there. Yeah, and so I just thought
I would go through this fact check, which, let's face it,
if you're going to do a fact check, you should

(34:06):
check facts, not fie fees, not your emotions, not what
you think. You need to check the facts. So I
want to just read this article because it's kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I want to apologize Rorders is actually a British company.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Just pass the great people. I really honestly don't care.
I just really honestly don't care. Okay, So, no, Disney
has not removed a Tinkerbell the Ferry from Peter Pan
from all its parks or events because she is problematic.
A spokesperson for the company set now right out of

(34:45):
the gate. Nobody, ever, at all, not once ever, has
said that Disney has removed tinker Bell from all of
its parks. In fact, the article that was talking about
this said Disney World. Where is Disney World, Florida? Okay?

(35:06):
How many parks is.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
That that let's see one.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yes, so not no time has anybody ever said that
Disney has removed them from all works, not even a thing.
So the first sentence out of the gate is a lie.
They continue everything he works turns to craft. Tinker Bell
is being canceled now, reads the caption of a social
media post sharing an image of the ferry with the

(35:33):
text Disney cuts Tinkerbell from meeting greets, labeling her as
a problematic character. Unfortunately, when I saved this, it did
not give me the actually will a picture, So I'm
gonna go see if I can find it.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
And while she's finding it, drop everything.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Oh oh wait, I have a thing for that. You
need to warn me, warn me, warn me about this,
drop everything, drop everything, Yes.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
And go to our website.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Hit like, hit share, hit subscribe, Tell your friends, tell
your neighbors, tell your enemies. Yes, and folks, if you're
enjoying this and you're on oh, I don't know Apple
or any of those places where you can hit star reviews,
give us a let's see four hundred and forty thousand
star review. Yeah, take a while. Well it does, I

(36:28):
mean you have to keep hitting it. But but here's
the thing. If you're not enjoying this show, don't be
like you know, those bozos in one or two stars.
That's insult us, be mean, make it hurt, make it
five stars. That's a that's like a two penny tip.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
My already my, already, so rude.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So obnoxious. Yeah, it's so obnoxious. Just the five stars
is like, ooh, that's like a knife to the gut.
So if you really hate what we're doing five stars,
If you love what we're doing four hundred and forty billion,
let's do this. Did I see million the first time?
I don't care matters not. Okay, Well, I'm trying to
find I'm trying to find. I'm trying to find vamp.

(37:10):
Did did yeah walk walk walk a walk? Oh? You
know what? It just says false? Okay, m problematic? I
guess yeah, it's stupid. Is it's just got a red
circle thing and the word false. They have a quote.

(37:33):
I guess I could bring it in. Let's go ahead
and bring it in. It's kind of stupid, and make
it bigger. They have the quote from the rep. So mek,
there we go. Take your bell. Unfortunately, it's become a problem,
a problematic image for our guest, specifically young girls, specifically

(37:56):
in terms of the portrayal of an unrealistic of body
image as dependency of approval and or attention from Peter
Pan as seen in previous incarnations of the character. We
feel these traits are no longer representative of our inclusive
focused values and thus are currently in process of redesigning
and updated Tinkerbill for modern audiences. Disney rep may.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Blackbird.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
They're saying that they did not do this, and the
posts share a statement attributed to Disney. Red people took
the post seriously, with one comment saying inclusive equals exclusive,
which is true. When asked about the statement going around
on social media, Disney spokesperson said, the online posts are
completely false. It is not completely false. There's no evidence

(38:40):
of Tinkerbill being permanently removed from all those paruks or events.
They did not say all. At no point did anybody say, oh,
Walt Disney Company and Walt Disney World made no such
update either, although Walt Disney World is the place that
did that. In February this year, the company said that
Tinkerbill would not have Oh, Gollie, look at this. Even
their own thing will not have a meet and greet

(39:03):
at disney World in Florida, although she would still figure
out she would still feature in other events like a
nighttime fireworks show where nobody could see her. The page
says the character meet and greets change at the parks
and that tinker Bell has a meet and greet at
Disneyland in California. Did they say why she would not
have a meet and greet? Huh ruh? Yeah, no, okay.

(39:26):
Some of the social media posts feature a screenshot of
an Instagram post about May seventh article by the Street
to suppose that Disney rep statement does not appear in
the Street story and it does not say tinker Bell
was canceled. The article titled disney World cuts classic character
from meat and greet's amid scrutiny, connects the halted tinker

(39:46):
Bell meet and greet in Orlando with a twenty twenty
two New York Times report that said tinker Bill was
flagged internally as potentially problematic as she is body conscious
and seeks Peter Pan's attention, according to the Time, So
now they're saying, okay, the New York timesciousness. The New
York Times reported this, and it's true and so then

(40:08):
this other outlet reported on it and said, wow, this
is not cool. And because they said it's not cool,
it must not be true. But the New York Times
reported it, so it must be true. So the verdict
is that it's misleading. She has not been canceled by Disney,
but that was not what they said. The character still
features at park events, and Disney said in a statement

(40:29):
about tinker Bell, attributed to a company representative is false.
But they just said that the New York Times reported it,
So basically it's true, but it's false because it's inconvenient
for us. So now it's false. But even though we're
going to tell you it was true, and we're even
going to quote where we learned that it was true,

(40:51):
but it's false because we don't like it.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Confused, and I want to move on to News of
the Cheese and wonderful news.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
News of the cheese and wonderful folks, that is exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Counterculture Wise is proud to present news of the week. Wonderful.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Here are your hosts, Melanie Hope and James Moon Cheese.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
That is exactly what we're going to have today is
news of the Cheese and yes, and she's eaters. This
one's not so much cheese but peanut butter.

Speaker 8 (41:27):
Yeah, but it's still about cheese, cheese, all about cheese cheese.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Did I ever share this, Well, I think I shared
the story with you. But did I ever share the
story with our listeners about my sister and I having
a job in the same company.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
No, I don't think we've I don't think we've shared that.
So why don't you do that first? Because that's really.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Way back in the day, when my baby sister was
just starting in the working world. I got her a job,
but the company I was working for, obviously in totally
different departments. And she's very good at her job. And
really she's a good work she really is. She's got
a very good work ethic. And we, you know, because
we're sisters and everything, we would get together at lunch
and our big thing was we would build like these

(42:08):
gorgeous salads and we'd see, you know, the cheese, and
we'd each bring different pieces and parts and we'd have,
you know, the ham and the chicken and the cheese
and the whatever. And for some reason, the vice president
is a small company, got it in his head that
we were conspiring against the company or something. I don't

(42:31):
know what it was, but this man. Every day we
would just be you know, talked about stupid stuff, fashion, makeup, whatever,
making our salads, laughing, telling jokes and whatever, and he
would find a reason to come in. And it was
always stupid, Like he'd come in and he'd just like
look in the cupboards but never like take anything or
use anything.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Or he'd come in, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
He'd come in and he'd look at the coffee maker
and pick it up, and if there's coffee there, he'd
just put it back and like not take a cup
of coffee. And a couple of times we kind of
caught him just kind of hang in by the door,
you know, so we realized, dudes listening, and we don't
know why because we weren't talking about the company at all.
Certain Yeah, and I worked in the accounting department and

(43:19):
she worked at you know, appointments and whatnot. I'm gonna share,
I'm not gonna share what company it was, but it
just it got to the point where she and I
would just kind of look at each other, and you
know how sisters have that thing where you can read
each other's thoughts. So one day he walks in and
he's doing the thing with the cupboards, literally not taking
anything out of the cupboards, just kind of wanting to

(43:40):
be in the room while we're talking. And as soon
as he walks in, I just look at my sister
and I say, and that's how you make cheese. And
we both just went silent until he left. And Felicity
caught on instantly. So every time he did that, one
of us would say, and that's how you make cheese,

(44:01):
and then we'd both just stop talking and eat.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
How long did he go before he stopped?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
About a week And then Felicity calls me and she's
she's and she was in the front office, so she
didn't have a lot of privacy. So she calls me
because I'm upstairs in the accounting office and she says.

Speaker 9 (44:19):
I just start Steve talking to the boss and he
said something about how we're obsessed with cheese and he
doesn't understand it.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
My god, if we just died laughing, it was great.
It was great. So that was our thing. Every time
he walked in, that's how you make cheese, and then
we wouldn't talk anymore. So, yeah, if you really want
to stop people from I just I don't know why
that was his thing, but he Yeah, every time we
got together, he had to be there, he had to
be listening. So that's what we did anyways. So that's

(44:55):
how you make cheese. Okay, let's read this first one.
They wish we could make cheese, but instead we're using
peanut butter.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Juno, Alaska, on an island of wind swept tundra and
the Baring Sea, hundreds of miles from mainland Alaska, are
residents sitting outside their home saw well did they see it?
I'm pretty sure they saw it. A rat? Oh no
reported sighting would not have gotten attention in many places

(45:28):
around the world, certainly not in Texas, but it caused
a stir on Saint Paul Island, which is part of
the Pribble Off Islands of Birding Haven, sometimes called the
Galapagos of the North. But its diversity of life. I'd
be willing to go along with the freezing to get
some photos. Yeah, it is amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I have been up there and it is gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
That's because rats that stow away on vessels can quickly
populate overrun remote islands, devastating bird populations by eating eggs, chicks,
or even adults, and up ending once vibrant ecosystems. Short
after receiving the residents report in June, wildlife officials arrived
at the apartment complex and crawled through nearby grasses, around
the building and under the porch looking for tracks, che marks,

(46:10):
or droppings.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Rats are pretty good at letting you know they're there.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah they are. They baited traps with peanut butter and
set up trail cameras to capture any confirmation of the
rats existence, but so far have found no evidence.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
We know because he probably sawa.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Probably we know because we've seen this on other islands
and in other locations in Alaska and across the world.
The rats absolutely decimate seabird colonies, so the threat is
never one that the community would take lightly, said Lauren Devine,
director at the Elute Community of Saint Paul Island's Ecosystem
Conservation Office.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
That's a heck of a name.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
The anxiety on Saint Paul Island is the latest development
of a long standing efforts to get or keep non
native rats off some of the most remote but ecologically
diverse islands in Alaska and around the world. Rodents have
been removed to sucessfully from hundreds of islands worldwide, including
one in Alaska's Lution Chain formerly known as Rat Island,
according to the US Fish and Wildlife Service, but such

(47:09):
efforts can take years and cost millions of dollars to
prevention is considered the best defect.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Hold on, including one in that chain. And it was
known as rat Island because it had one rat.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
No, I'm sure there's probably there were probably more than one.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
It doesn't say that says one, including one one from
hundreds of islands World War one island, one island island. Honey,
I read that wrong.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yes, you certainly did.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, stop sticking your tongue out. They can't see spas.
If you had any idea what Jim looks like, you
wouldn't listen to our podcasts. Okay, actually be so cute
because we could just pan around the room at all.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
The critters, the fabulous fitzi fats, Yes, are of She's
so fritzy, which we need to bring back.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
We did she she brought us in the show is Today.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
That's true, she did. We did do that.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
She's quite a little songs quite a voice, hasn't she
quite a little songstress?

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Such an excited on Christmas.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, but yeah, this community of three hundred and fifty
people is very, very scared that the rats are going
to take over.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
But they didn't find the rats everything.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yeah, so we don't know for sure.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Wow, foxes, they got rid of foxes. Fur traders introduced
Arctic foxes. Yeah. You can't just introduce a species at random, species,
you just you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Well that's there was fire ants coming from Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Well, yeah, we're stuck with America blasted things now and
I don't like fire ants, but we're stuck with them.
Thanks a lot, South America. They're not sending their best
as trumpets.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Very true, they're not sending their best.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Gym's working on that because we have some sketches coming up. Yeah,
I kind of hope he gets an office just for
the memes.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
They're reading dogs, they're reading the cats. Wagga wogga wagga.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Yeah, eat dog, eat the cat. So its way too
much fun.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
All right. So we go from Alaska to the other
end of the country to New York City.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
New York City, and we're still talking about rats. So,
I mean, the show could have been about rats, but
you know, rats eat cheese. And then we have more
stories about cheese.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
So we do have some actual cheese stories coming up.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
They're coming. They're cheesy, trust me, all right. So, the
New York City Council voted Thursday to use birth control
on rats. Yes. According to the bill, a local rat
contraceptive pilot program will begin in a small section of
the city one hundred and eighty days after the bill
is passed, for no less than twelve months immediately after

(49:58):
the deployment of the rat contraceptive.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I wonder there's gonna be rat rubbers or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I'm curious rat rubbers better than rubber rats. The Department
shall perform monthly inspections of each pilot program area and
each pilot program comparison area. During such monthly inspections of
the pilot program areas, why are with all the peas?
The Department shall track the amount of rat contraceptive in
each rec contraceptive dispenser. So the rats are going to

(50:28):
push a little button, get the pill, and be like, yeah, baby,
I'm hitting the town. You'll have You'll have the wu
rats now. The pilot program is inspired by New York
City's beloved Flacco the Owl, who died earlier this year.

(50:48):
With rat poison in this system. Oh, that's so sad.
New York City Council members Sean Abu, the bill's sponsor,
said he worked with ContraPest, a type of birth control,
to find less harmful ways to reduce the New York
City rat population. I know of a less harmful way
of doing it. Stop importing people that become homeless and

(51:11):
trash up the joint, and then the rats won't have
so much to eat. Yeah. Also noted that other steps,
such as having New Yorkers put trash and containers gasp,
will make the contraceptive more effective. ContraPest has been utilized
by the city of the past, but it was not practical,
according to a veterinarian with over twelve years experience who

(51:32):
spoke to this particular news organization. But of course they're
not going to give us anymore about that, because you know, forget,
you make the rats take the pill. I wonder if
they I wonder if they have to do like the
thing where they they do, you know, twenty days of
the yellow pills and then seven days of the white pills.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I hope. Yeah, it's complicated enough for women.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I'm telling you man, I'm telling you I have PTSD
from those dangvills. Okay, Well, we talked about this cheese
last week, like not too long ago, and now we
have an update on the mummified cheese. Mummy mummy cheese,

(52:22):
mummy cheese. Wait, son, mummy cheese, mummy cheese.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
About twenty years ago, researchers discovered three ancient mummies in China.
They had a strange white substance smeared around their necks,
which turned out to be chunks of preserved.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Cheese around their next Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Dating back around thirty six hundred years. It was the
oldest cheese ever found.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Okay, but if it was around their next did they
mean it to become cheese?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
I don't know. I've just.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
May you go into the afterlife with milk and honey
and then later on the like, oh look cheese.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
No ideas about the cheese. The mummies were buried in
Xiahie Cemetery.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
A bronze and you're pronouncing that one.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
I was guessing burial ground in northwest China. Since discovering
them in two thousand and three, scientists have been examining
the remains and testing the white curds proteins. Now, one
group of researchers has finally finished extracting and analyzing the
cheeses DNA and I don't think of cheese.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
As having DNA, don't, But I mean there are microbes
or there should have been microbes in it, so there
would be DNA.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
This is interesting because we ingest this occasionally. According to
a study published this week in the journal Cell, the
mysterious Kurds are Keffer cheese.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
I just had Keffer for breakfast.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
There you go, fermented yogurt like dairy product. It's a
delicious drink.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
That booster energy is quite god for you.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Now the new stuff analysis is shedding light on cheese
making an ancient asia.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I considered keff for an actual cheese, but okay, but
yogurt is technically a cheese, is it?

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (54:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
This is the oldest known cheese sample ever discovered in
the world, says co author Kalmefu, a Pellian, a palaeogeneticist
at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and the stand from
the journal Windows. Food items like cheese are extremely difficult
to preserve over thousands of years, making this a rare
and valuable opportunity. Studying the ancient cheese in great detail

(54:34):
can help us better understand our ancestors, diet and culture.
Researchers identified multiple bacterial and fungal species in the cheese,
including Lacto basilis, kefer anofsians and Piccia kudria vezi, sorry,
Picchia kudrias never mind, which are found in modern key

(54:56):
for great, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
No facians and Pica coudra. Yeah, you're on your own.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Thousands of years ago, let's just call it cheese. The
cheese was likely soft, like modern kafer, but upon their
discovery the.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Keffer isn't soft though, Keffer's liquid. When I think of
soft cheese, I think of brie. I don't think of glug.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Now, I want Keffer. During the commercial breaks, it's all yours.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
We don't have a commercial breed.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Oh that's right, we don't anymore, do Annie who? These
pale yellow cheese samples smelled of nothing and were powdery
to touch on a little crumbly, as Foo tells New Sciences.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Well, because they were a bazillion years old, of course,
they didn't smell like nothing.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Finally, by a sequencing bacterial genes, the researchers were able
to track how probiotic bacteria evolved over the last three thousand,
six hundred years in China. For the statement, the l
Kefferano Fessians grains and the mumpified cheese are closely related
to others from Tibet. The presence of such grains suggests
that people in northwest China may have interacted with Tibetans

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in the Bronze Age, conducting cross regional exchanges.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
According to the study trading cheese. Wow, wow, look how
tiny that sample was.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Teeny weenie And there's a photo of one of the
Keffer decorated mummies.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Our observation strongly suggests that distinct spreading routes of two
Keffer microbe subspecies, which was enabled by nomadic groups traveling
across Eurasia. These groups likely spread microbes through the trade
of dairy products and their storage containers.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Human microbo interaction is always fascinating. Fermentive microbes played such
an important role in the daily life of these ancient humans,
and they propagated these microbes for thousands of years without
knowing the existence of them. For most of the time,
they just new it tasted yummy.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
The story is unprecedented who says it allowed researchers to
observe a bacteria illusion over three thousand years. Wow, that's fascinating.
That is providing a peek into ancient human life. It's
a new way of tracking what human cultures were doing
long before or in the absence of language, are written accounts.
Paul Kinstead, a cheese historian and food Now, that's I
missed out my call in life. A cheese historian. Yes, yeah,

(57:19):
this was made a week ago. It's delicious. Yeah, she's
a story and food scientists a craft. The study tells
The New York Times Kate Golombiisky. But despite the cheese's
importance culture, thousands of years of aging have certainly reduced
its culinary allure. I think most people don't want to
try it because we see that it's not that attractive.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Food tell she needs to be attractive.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Hasn't shown it to me?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Throw some lipstick on it, all, chomp on it? Why not?

Speaker 7 (57:46):
There you go?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Sadie agreed.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Don't know if anybody off Mike could hear that. But
Citi has this thing where if she's comfortable and enjoying herself,
she just groans. She sounds like your stomach before I
feed you. Yeah, she's quite the vociferous one, is our Sadie.
All right, this one, we actually have a little bit
of a video and make sure that's all set up
and everything. So I don't know if.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
You've seen this or not.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
This could have saved my knuckles A long time ago.
Woman finds out the right way to grate cheese. So
she's got a box grader very similar to what we have,
and let's take a look at this video. There's no audio,
and I apologize for the swear word, but yeah, she

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turns it on its side and rather than grading it
like you're grading it down a cone, she grades it
on its side and then you can take the greater
and just dump it into your bowl or your bag
or whatever.

Speaker 11 (59:00):
Yes, literally is the most ridiculously stupidly smart thing. Yeah,
and there's something a particular you watch your mom do
it and melons.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
I mean, I finally asked my mom, okay, you knock
on the melons. What are we listening for? She says,
I don't know, It's just what grown did. And so
we have like generations of melon knockers and nobody knows
why they're knocking their melons. I wish al, I wish

(59:35):
al was here for that one. Okay, guess yeah yeah
so in her tico. In her video TikTok, Brenda Breedlove
stands in front of her kitchen counter showing a box
of box Cheese Greater and a block of cheese. The
expletive I learned from TikTok, the text overlay in her
video reads. She then demonstrates what she learned. She turns

(59:56):
the cheese grater on its side and puts the block
of cheese on top before shredding away. Her video was
viewed over eighteen point five million times. You could to
monetize that, oh baby, that is what TikTok is all about.
Right there. Many people stand the Cheese Greater upright and
use one of the sides to slide the cheese up
and down until it shreds pile up inside it, which
is exactly what we do. You just did it this

(01:00:17):
afternoon and May. A woman named Alice was similarly blown
away when she found out about this trick at forty
three years old. I guess I've been doing this wrong
the whole time. I'm forty three years old and I'm
just learning to play to lay the cheese crater on
its side. Oh, I'm gonna take it one step further though, please,
So we buy large blocks of cheese and grated and
freeze half of it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
The reason we do that rather than buying the pregraded
cheese is because the pregraded cheese has gone from having
potato starch as a as a preservative or as a
separator anti caking thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
It is now a bunch of not even a bunch,
it's literally a prescription drug.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Yeah, it's it's crazy, So we just do it ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
That's make or I infections. Let's seeted cheese. Blah blah.
No it's not. Uh. I was hoping I could find it. Anyways,
the grated cheese, it literally has an anti kiking agent
that is a prescription drug that's made for I infections

(01:01:22):
and you can. I was hoping I could find it.
Sometimes it has.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
And this doesn't matter whether you buy the gourmet stuff,
whether you buy a major brand like Craft or your
basic Walmart, you know, whatever, a grocery store brand, they
all have it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Yeah, and I'm trying to find the name of it
so that you can so that you should have had
that ready to go. That was a jag nata mysin
n ata m y c I n So if you
look up notta mysin, and I challenge you when you
go to the grocery store, look at the pre graded cheese.

(01:01:58):
It's only the pre gridded cheese. It's not in the
sliced cheese or anywhere else you'll found not. Natamycin also
known as P marrisin and anti fungal medication used to
treat fungal infections around the eye. That's insane, and it's
a prescription. Yeah, the extra Yeah, so it only takes

(01:02:22):
a couple of minutes and we save a bundle. It's
so much cheaper buying the bigger we get.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
For a lot of things, we get the really large,
like five pound.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
As big as we can get, usually two and a half,
but yeah, as big as we can get, and then
we'll freeze half or more of it. And we always have.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Grated cheese keeps its texture unlike the block stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Yeah, and if you buy the pre graded stuff and
freeze it, it does not right, probably because the natomyocin.
So yeah, there you go. Things things you tips from coriculture,
cons counter culture, consumer wise. I like that. I like that.
I use that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Speaking of chees, speak of cheese. This is the one
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
That's to make sure this is Jimmy's article.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Right, is if I knew I could live on nothing
but burgers and cheese, Oh, you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Had to throw the burgers in?

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Well, yeah, I mean but cheese.

Speaker 9 (01:03:26):
Am.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
If I had to choose one for me, I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Could live on olives and cheese. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Is there such a thing as too much cheese? Producers
across the US are betting billions of dollars at The
answer is no. America's per capita cheese consumption has more
than doubled since I grew up, since the government began
keeping track in nineteen seventy five, to about forty two
pounds a year.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Wow, that's more than all the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Butter, ice cream, and yogurt combined.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Really. Yeah, so they're not throwing those in like the
kepher mummies.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
No, No, and I will vouch I probably eat at
least that much a year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Oh yeah. You could eat a block of cheese in
one city if I let you. That's another reason we
grade the cheese and freeze half of it is to
protect Gym from hisself, Because if we have what I
call slicing cheese like a block of cheese that he
can slice. Oh, he will try.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Which we have. Yeah, I've been showing some restraint because
I don't really have anything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yeah, he'll hanker for a hunkah and that cheese is gone.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Facilities for making cheese account for more than half of
the eight billion dollars in US dairy product projects slated
to come online from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty six,
according to the International Dairy Foods Association, Great Lakes Cheese
Company is spending more than seven hundred million dollars on
a New York plant to will double the company's milk consumption.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Which means we can't get rid of the farting cows now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yep, sorry aoc lack Talas USA is making a big
investment to add feta capacity to the Calimon has more
than as more at home cooking and baked fata pasta
goose demand for the Brian cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Is it fata or feta?

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I know, but it's I'm sure it's feta, but I
was called fada. I don't know why pasta goose demand
for the Brian cheese. Sargentle Foods in corporation, which it is.
How about that Feta fta, So it's somewhere. It's somewhere
in between how I was pronouncing it and how I

(01:05:25):
was pronouncing it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Yeah, it's not Fata.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
It is Sargentle Foods Incorporated, which is one of the
companies that makes Fritzy's beloved string cheese, just formed a
partnership with Mondolz International Incorporated, a KA and Abisco to
package you would that, yeah, I would to package bite
sized cheese with chipsil hooy cookies and Teddy Grahams and

(01:05:49):
portable snack packs smart It's like like Oscar Myers lunchables.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I guess, yeah, and you have gone down hill lunchables.
It used to be one of my favorite things, to
the little mint and the little squeezy mustard thingy. Yeah,
none of that is none of that now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
So you'd be hard pressed to walk around any of
our facilities and not trip over an under construction sign,
says Rod Hogan.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Sargento's that's OSHA violation right there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
In the area of low In the era of low
fat dieting that boomed throughout the early nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Nineties, it made us all fat, which.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Is like bogus woo. There was a nutritional war on
saturated fats, said Corey Geiger, lead dairy economist at agricultural
lender Kobank. Many Americans opted instead of products like skim
milk and light yogurt, and popularity of low carb diets
such as Atkins and South Beast South Beach. South Beast

(01:06:49):
gave cheese. I'm the South Beast gave cheese a boost
around the turn of the millennium. In the years since,
even as paleo adherents and vegans as Shoe Dairy Gazundite,
increased demand for high protein foods is again put cheese
on the menu. Pandemic accelerated cheese is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Ascent I can imagine because that is a comfort food.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
It is when restaurants shut down, home cooks try to
recreate their favorite dishes complete with piles of cheese. Others
found increased opportunities to indulge while working ten feet from
the fridge. Yep it is. In fact, Cobank estimates cheese
snacks are now worth seventy five billion a year worldwide
dollars US dollars. The most traditional cheeses only have four

(01:07:31):
ingredients milk, salt, cultures and enzyme. Pretty pretty simple, a
simplicity that adds to their appeal. Fat is not as
much of a bad word as it once was, but
ultra processed is amen good, says Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Burdwan food product food. If you have to put the
word food on your label, it's not like American cheese.
Food product.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Fat is not okay. Where the ultra princesses, says Michael Burn,
the president of Challenge Dairy Products Incorporated, a California butter producer.
They're the ones that have the big.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Elk on the Oh yeah, yeah, we don't. I don't
see them here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
I haven't either. I've just seen uh. I think I've
seen Challenge once or twice. But it's usually a land
of lakes and dairy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Gold minus the native they kept the land.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
How American can you get? Okay? And Agramark the owner
of Cabot Creamy Creamery Cooperative. And they make roll good
that that extra extra sharp. Vermont cheddar one to make
the white stuff that is amazing. They make squares of

(01:08:44):
cheese designed to fill on crackers, no knife required. The
cracker cut lineup, which started in twenty seventeen with six varieties,
now has a dozen after adding gooda in may. Craft
was doing that a long time ago, so I'm not
sure whether but anyway, Cabot makes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
More than one hundred craft. This is actual cheese.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Yeah, Cabot makes more than one hundred and forty cheese products,
with new releases outpacing the company's other dairy categories. According
to Sarah Healey, Cabot's senior vice president of marketing, cheese
went from a snack that consumers felt a little guilt
build guilty about to something they felt really good about,
something that's basically.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Our main stable. Yes. Yes, wow, look at this.

Speaker 8 (01:09:20):
The selecting more dairy and drinking less all right, So
she's investment will be a welcome relief to a dairy
industry reeling from decades of tumbling demand for.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
A tall glass of cold milk. Yeah, I don't drink
tall lass.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
We really don't drink milk in it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Yeah, I mean I do once in a while, very
very very not very often. I mean when I was
a kid, I drank it all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Yeah. The only time I ever actually have milk in
the house is if it's for a particular recipe.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Right, And this comes this brings up something else in
this article in a second here some of the decline
we traced the plant based alternatives, such as almond and
oat milk, which I like those two. A concern that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Have a story about that in a bit too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Okay cool, A concern that doesn't really affect cheese plant
because almond cheese is yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Often, it doesn't melt, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Almond milk tastes great and lattes and shakes, and that
it doesn't well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
I like almond milk on its own by itself. I
once used it to bake something. It was okay, but
in lattes forget that. Yeah, I liked soy milk and
I don't like soy nothing anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Plant based cheeses exists, but they haven't taken off in
a big way because they can't match the texture, consistency,
and meltability the real thing. It has nothing to do
with any of that tastes cardboard. If you're constantly trying
to take take a freaking American slice, your craft American
single yes, and make it taste like cardboard, that's exactly

(01:10:54):
what almond cheese tastes like. I used to work at
a health food store I with a humble heart. I
tried it and I despised it. I don't despise very
many foods, but that one I despised.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
But all, you know, all they've been working on it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
I think the thing with cheese is the melty melty.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Yeah, I love the melta.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
We got a little mini cupcake. I don't know what
you call them. I would call them a confectioners.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Yeah, kind of like a little muffin. Yeah, teeny muffin.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
That fits in the microwave. Yeah, barely barely, but it
fits and it works. It works really well. So think
about the size of a Reese's peanut butter cup and
you put just a little bit of cheese in each one.
And I've tried every different cheese. You stick it in
the microwave for four minutes. You get crunchy, crunchy crackers,
no guilt, amazing, and that's all there is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
You don't have to add anything, yeah, can, I've done cheddar.
You can add flavor, you know can, but you don't
need to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I've done cheddar, I've done parmesan, I've done pepper jack
is really good, and you you can also do cottage cheese,
but I recommend blending it first and then it takes
a lot longer, and where the harder cheeses make like
a little cracker. The cottage cheese, which is absolutely yummy, yeah,

(01:12:15):
really good, makes more like a little cup. So I
would think of something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Like almost more like a potato chip consistency.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah, it's better if you do an am parchment paper
and let it be flatt and then you get like
the full potato chip consistency. But yeah, this other thing
was a good investment. The silicone cups really good investment
because it can go in the oven, it can go
in the microwave, and it's a really quick snack. Four
minutes later you've got crunchy and very satisfying. I mean
it makes two dozen, so you know, he gets half,

(01:12:46):
I get half, and we're both full and no carbs
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Like like she said, it's simple to prepare and quick
to fix and you're good to go. Any who see
the cheese investments would be a welcome relief to a
dairy industry really from decades of tumbling demand for a tall,
classic old milk. They just said some of the decline
can be traced to plant based alternatives. There's all the

(01:13:12):
oate milk concerned, okay, plant based.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Cereal, and now that a box of cereal costs twelve bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
It's gotten stupid that you would eat that was the
alternative eggs and bacon and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Stuff, and now it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
It's not really all that healthy. I mean the Yeah.
With so much new capacity coming online, there's a chance
US households won't keep up diet fads. After all, tend
to flip flop our beloved cottage cheese for instances. Having
a woman on social media making it another variety is
of a favorite of Kido diet because it is very versatile,
but cheese is also a key ingredient of higher calorie

(01:13:50):
foods such as pizza and cheeseburgers yum and yum, that
are often among the first things to go in a
lifestyle overhaul. Not really.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
We make cheeseburgers and pizza all the time that are
totally keto.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
You just skip the bread, and there's lots of alternatives
you can do. Cauliflower pizza crusts are amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
They're delicious, like my crust better though. I just use
mazzi and almond flour very slowly. Melted so it's like
a plato, then smooth it out into a crust and then.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Add or skip it called dominoes whatever, But it's still.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
That defeats the Okay, you know what might challenge you
to get dominoes out where we are. You can't get
a bus, and we can't even get a sick we
got a bus.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
We get a bus. I have to get a bus.
I won't have a job of a bus.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
It's a van. All right, Well, all right, I'm married
to the guy who takes the short bus store.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Thank you for calling the Slato taxis. How can I'll
help you anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
You know that's how people see us.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Yeah, I know I know something. I'm not gonna go
on a rant. I don't even know everything there is
to know about the job yet. It's just been one
week and I literally have five or six months of training.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Wow, so this is going to take a long time.
But have your own office.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
I do have my own office.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
That ass is that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
I think it's really cool. It's like it gives me
an incentive to come to work.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
It makes me happy, and they let you decorate.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
It within reason.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
I mean, yeah, I'm not going to send you my
only fans picks. But you know I'm not on only fans,
just checking. They would pay me to just not be there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Oh no, no, no, no no, there is a thing
for everything.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
That's true. It is the Internet.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
It's the internet anyway, not my gig. Domestic demand of
economic conditions simply don't augur continued growth with this rapid pace,
says Erica mad Keel likes to use fancy words like augur,
vice researcher. Ever, ever, ag insights we expect. We suspect
that this wave of investment, particularly in cheese, will lead
to an oversupply situation, at least in this short long story.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Short invest in eat cheese, invest in cheese, invest in cheese,
eat cheese.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
And now one of my favorite desserts.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Oh yeah, it's up there with I made a really
really yummy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Keto cheesecake, like a couple of years ago. Why don't
to do that again?

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
But why don't you do that again? I think I
will if I can find the We got to figure
out how to make a keto. What is that thing called? Yeah,
there's no way you can make that keto because you
have to do the thing with the sugar and the crusty.
You can't think of the word right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
You're talking about that custard thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Yeah, and I can't think of the word. No, that's
chocolate and cocoa and lady fingers and whatnot. No, I'm
thinking of don't you hate it when you've got it
right at the table of your Yeah, crambule.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Cmbule.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Yeah. That is by far, hands down my favorite dessert
of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
So we mentioned Craft. Now you get to talk about
the company Craft I do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
It's draft all right for crafts it something. Well, you know,
we love our our Guinness records. So world's largest cheesecake
weighing fifteen thousand eight pounds unveiled at Upstate New York festival.
Let's take a big The Kraft Heinz company broke the

(01:17:31):
record for the world's largest cheesecake at the Lowville Cream
Cheese Festival in Lowville on well, of course it was
in Lowville, because otherwise it would be named the Peninsky.
On September Guinness World Records website, Okay, the cheesecakes weight
came in at fifteen thousand eight pounds and Lieutenant Colonel
Adam Keller from the sixth Squad Why is this important

(01:17:56):
sixth squat Squadron?

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Why can I say the word six squadron, six Cavalry
of the tenth Mountain Division At the first.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Piece the festival's Facebook page.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Might have been an honored guest because he was a
veteran or something.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Murph. Okay, so here it is. They put the Philadelphia
label on it, and then there's a sinus big cheesecake.
That's hilarious, big cheesecake. Okay, Louisville and it's You did
not put an apostrophe in it's Please tell me I

(01:18:29):
am not looking.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
We need to move on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Please tell me on. I can't move on. That is
an egregious error. Whoever the editor was of this article,
fire them immediately. Louisville and it Is festival, which is
just over an hour north of Utica, has previously been
home to the record according to Spectrum News as Kraft

(01:18:53):
Heines previously built a six nine hundred pound cheesecake in
twenty thirteen, but a rush company bigger one for cheesecake
three and forty seven point six pounds just four years later.
Where you think they would measure all the ingredients and
come up with an even number and with all these
really odd numbers. As the leader in cream cheese, we're

(01:19:16):
always looking for ways to share iconic brand and remind
people of our delicious and creamy taste. Is kraft Heins
We're talking Philadelphia, right right right, Yeah, And because when
I was in Philly, it was all about.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
The cheese absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
So there is the big uedges kick in the gender
Vet cream Cheese Festival. With an event like the Louisville
I keep saying Louisville Lowville Cream Cheese Festival in our
factory's hometown, we wanted to show up in a big
way this year by attempting to reclaim our Guinness World
Records title. Yeah, I think they overachieved. Maybe they they

(01:19:57):
really went crazy. They like doubled it. They you know what,
just catch up, be achiz. That's how you don't swear
while swearing. Okay. The record breaking cheesecake took five and
a half hours to make, and around forty kraft Heinz
Lowville plant employees were involved in the process and to

(01:20:19):
get an idea of just how massive this delectable dessert was.
It's oh my God again with the apostrophe, who is
this person? Fire lad? It's equivalent USA today. This one
actually right, it is equivalent to ten dairy cows. Okay
pass one school but okay, so USA today, it is

(01:20:40):
equivalent to ten dairy cows, one school bus, one Torontosaurus
rex or five thousand standard nine inch cheesecake. So that's
a big oh mother hummer wo. The and fifty pound
crust consisted of seven hundred and fifty pounds of gram cracker,

(01:21:00):
Oh my heart, two hundred and fifty pounds of sugar,
and four hundred and fifty pounds of butter, and was
filled with thirteen thousand, five hundred and fifty eight pounds
of ready to eat cheesecake filling. Hey, that's cheating, that's cheating,
And don't worry, none of it went to waste. After
being shared with thousands of festival attendees, the cheesecake made

(01:21:23):
its way to local schools, retirement homes, and Lowville food
pantry and nearby Watertown Urban Mission. Krafthein said, God blessed
them for sending it to retirement homes, food pantries and
people in need. What a nice little treat that you
don't expect. Right when you go to a food pantry,

(01:21:45):
you don't get cheesecake. That must have been such a
decadent and fun thing for people to receive. That's very sweet.
What a fun story.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
That's fun story. Alright, cake, stop it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
I don't know about you, but I just want to
run to the refrigerator right now. Just stick my face
a bat of cream cheese.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Yeah, okay, so and cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
All right, beat and cheese. We said, we talk about it.
I'm curious about this, but this sounds like there was
a malurkey of foot.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Well, let's find out probably.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
What the cheese smells like a foot. I'll be over here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
In the wine world. The nineteen seventy six judgment of Paris.
I remember watching a movie about this, a blind taste test,
which is the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
One where the the the California wine.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
One one over the Bordeaux.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
I watched that. Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Beat out their French counterparts, because remember it's the shocking
up ending of long standing order. A similar moment looked
like it was coming to the Demi Monde of artisanal cheese.
On Monday, the winters will be announced to the Good
Food Awards, a prestigious honor that considers both the quality
of the product and the environmental and social consciousness of
the hippies, I mean the companies that produced them. When

(01:23:06):
the California based foundation that doles them out announced the
finalists in January, among the candidates was a blue cheese
from Climax Foods from Berkeley, California. The difference between that
entrant and its competitors wasn't a silky mouthfield or buttery flavor,
but rather the fact that the Climax Blue, which is
served in restaurants including Michelin Starred eleven Madison Park in

(01:23:26):
New York Whoo, wasn't made from the milk of cowser goats,
but rather blend of ingredients including pumpkin seeds, lima beans,
hemp seeds, coconut fat, and cocoa butter.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Sounds awful.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
A plant based cheese held up as an exemplar in
a blind tasting among true dairy products. Traditional cheesemakers were
shocked as words spread about the interloper, mostly through food
writer Janet Fletcher's Planet Cheese newsletter. The controversy fomented It
was the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Added ingredient of crack that made a difference.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Maybe maybe a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Of crack in your cheese, and now it becomes the
best tasting non.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
The Good Foods Foundation that oversees the awards at first
offered a compromise solution. If in fact, the Climax cheese
was a winner, it announced, the Foundation would name a
co winner. Then the Foundation would reevaluate for next year,
perhaps creating a new category or moving them into the
broader snacks cold.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
This is a metaphor for something.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
It probably is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
If you show up, you know, with naughty bits from
a guy, and you want to be a girl, and
you want to compete against girls, perhaps you should get
your own categorization.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
If you want to be a cheese and you have
the naughty bits from not cheeses, in fact, you have
no ingredients that cheese is possessed, perhaps she should have
your own category.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Possibly in there looking at that. Yeah, But behind the
scenes things were getting messy. Of course. This week the
foundation quietly removed the Climax Blue from the list of
finalists on its website, but didn't make public what had
disqualified the cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
It was, that's what disqualified it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
It wasn't the fact that it is plant based, since
those products are explicitly allowed, but it had never been
an issue since a vegan cheese that never impressed the
judges enough to be named a finalist. They all need
to be replaced vegan cheese. Yes. When asked by The
Washington Post about his reasoning, Good Foods Foundation Executive director

(01:25:34):
Sarah Wiener at first.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Decline her name is ser Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Sarah Winer at first declined to say but she said
something similar the we I N E R. That's Wiener.
She said something similar had happened only three times in
the awards fourteen year history. That's not a very long history.
Someone another entrant, perhaps, or someone else in the community
can alert the Foundation of the contestant might not meet

(01:26:00):
the requirements they attested to, which includes such things meeting
animal husbandry guidelines were applicable and offering employees fair wages
and diversity training divers Wien are.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Also, we don't care if people have diversity training. I
care if my cheese tastes yummy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
That's true. Ween are also to blah blah. Where am
I here? Ya? Weien also wouldn't say who tipped off
the foundation about Climax. I think there were that, Wiener.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Tipped and Climax are all in the same sentence. We
are gonna lose our PG.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Rating we have. We lost that eight years ago. I
think there was a lot more eyes on this particular
entrant than there would be on the one of the
hundreds of other finalists, she said, which made it more
likely that someone with expertise would reach out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
It's such an innocent article, and yet I feel so dirty.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
This is the longest article in the history of cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Yeah, we don't need to go on, but to say,
there were some shenanigans in the background.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
And Monkey shines shine all the things.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
And apparently it came down to them using enzyme that
they said they sourced from the right place, and whan Karen,
and it goes on and on and on, and I'm
curious to taste the cheese. I'm just gonna be honest.
I'm curious to taste the not actual cheese made out
of god knows what not cheese. All right, So there

(01:27:26):
we go, and monkey shines in the things. Okay, this
last story is bitter sweet because I didn't get to
see this reunion thing. But apparently either just got released.
And it's posthumorous too, oh Chandler being.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Posthumorous. Isn't the word posthumous?

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Costumers. He died. Okay, he's dead.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
He's quite dead.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
He's sad. But this was a sweet moment and we'll
get DMC eight off the universe. But I still want
to share it because I think it's really sweet, right,

(01:28:19):
and we'll still talk over the top of it, but
we'll still get DMC eight. I haven't done this in
a long time, so I should be Phoebe for this.
It should be Phoebe. Okayt's manica. So apparently Lisa Kudrou

(01:28:40):
revealed that she had completely forgotten how to do this.
She had to actually google it, so she says, I
googled it. Thank you well for posting the chords. Her
most popular role, arguably was was Phoebe Bruffet from Friends,
and she said she is underprepared for the moment, but

(01:29:01):
she was joined by a special guest. It's Mellie Cat.
It's not your beautiful.

Speaker 9 (01:29:11):
They won't take you to the bed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Not their favorite pet. You may not be a bed
of roses and your noses And then walks Lady Gaga.
That is quite an outfit she's wearing.

Speaker 7 (01:29:35):
It's so weird because I was walking down the street
and I just hadn't have my her guitar.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Yeah, oh my god, you can help.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
Yeah, I mean I think so.

Speaker 12 (01:29:45):
Yeah, she's Phoedie one of my favorite songs.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
She's actually in the coffee shop and friends.

Speaker 7 (01:29:51):
Oh please Smellie Cat for a spin.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Yeah, that would be great. All right, here she goes
girl can sing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Good nag Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
My good, Melli God, that's not your.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Lisa could dress so funny it okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
They won't take you to the bed.

Speaker 9 (01:30:24):
You're obviously that their favorite.

Speaker 12 (01:30:26):
Pat.

Speaker 7 (01:30:28):
You may not be a bed of roses, and you're
no friend of those with the noses.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
You gotta hand it to you cat lady god God,
because she does have quite the schnabs and her nose
was epic. This is fun, this is cute. It's not
your fa And then of course we've got to bring
in with the robes and everything. Listen. Can't believe it

(01:31:07):
got a gospel boyer.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
I've not seen this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
She went full Madonna, Lady Gaga really can sing.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Yeah, she's a good singer, really good song.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Yeah, that's right, and this is classic phoebe here. This
is great, Thank you, It's so great. I still think
it's better when it's just me.

Speaker 7 (01:31:45):
It is it is you heard it, it is say something.
Thank you so much for being the person for all
of us on friends. That was the I don't know
if this is the right way to say it, but
the different one or the one that was really her,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
And thanks for carrying it along. Yes, okay, yeah, it
was just a really cute exchange. I sincerely enjoyed that. So,
like I said, I'll get DMC eight off of the youtubes,
but I don't care. It was worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Warner Brothers can do whatever they want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Warner Brothers can Yeah what you what you said?

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Nobody cares?

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Yeah, now see that's why we can't have nice things.
And on to News of the Wicked.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
This is nuts?

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Is it nuts? Is it indeed?

Speaker 9 (01:32:41):
Nuts?

Speaker 13 (01:32:42):
Among other things in March, it's just terrible awful. In
March twenty twenty three, a Pennsylvania woman received a phone
call from a healthcare executive that left her in disbelief.
Hackers had obtained photos of her naked body while she
underwent radiation treatments and posted them to the dark corner
of the Internet.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
What would you want to see pictures of cancer? The Internet?

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Because the Internet.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
You just answered, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
The High Valley Network, the High Valley Health Network refused
to pay a ransom in excess of five million dollars
to recover the photos and other stolen patient information, but
it couldn't sidestep financial damages from the breach.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Probably cost them blessed to do it that way than
to pay for the ransom. And the thing with paid
ransom is the minute you do, they're just going to
do it again because they made money doing it, exactly.
And if it's digital, there's no proof that they destroyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
Yeah. The unidentified woman, who was in her fifties and
known as Jane Doe, became the lead plaintif and a
class actions suing LA High for failing to safeguard highly
sensitive patient information, including nude photos of hundreds of cancer patients.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
Question. Yeah, why are we taking nude photos of cancer patients? Why?
What could possibly be the medical reason for that?

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
I have no idea. I don't know it all.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
They're not going to tell us, are they They might,
but they probably won't. Oh oh so they didn't want
to pay five million, but they're paying her sixty five million?
You go girl?

Speaker 13 (01:34:20):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
Yeah, A law firm announced the Lahia agreed to pay
sixty five million dollars to settle the case. As hackers
penetrate American health care firms and alarming regularity, this episode
reveals how cyber thieves are exploiting uniquely sensitive data with
devastating human and financial consequence.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Why is this data even available? It shouldn't even be
on the active internet. It should be internal and only share.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
It's hackers doing it. It's not just you know, not
posting on Facebook for Pete's sake.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Well, but they basically are Yeah, I mean they basically are, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
Defineating data breach is the compromise health information on hundreds
of Americans happen on a near daily basis, Yepe, According
to a Washington Post review of cases compiled with the
US Department of Health and Human Services.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Okay, I will never have new photos taken of me,
even for medical reasons. And b if you were to
hack it and find any you deserve what you see.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
True. I didn't mean it like that. I didn't mean
it like that. I'm just saying it's not smart.

Speaker 13 (01:35:28):
Fire your husband, noire me.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Full disclosure. It's late.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
People do not look at my wife. Whatever you do
save yourselves. Do not look ill.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Look at you all the time, and I love what
I see. You know that one mistake I slides anyway.
That is especially the case for a health system. Wait
a minute. The High Valley case also highlights the legal
predicaments for health care organizations that are increasingly targeted by hackers,

(01:36:03):
leaving them vulnerable to both the cyber criminals and subsequent
lawsuits brought by patients whose lives are upended by a breach.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
They want to know why they got naked pictures taken.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
I'm scrolling down to see it isn't clear how common
intimate patient photos are exposed in hacks. Well, I guess
it includes X ray. A plastic surgeon Beverly Hills disclosed.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
To see X ray. People are weird.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
People are strange when you're a stranger. A plastic surgeon
Beverly Hills disclosed the cyber attack last year that included
images taken in connection with the services rendered at our office,
sparking litigation. A second plastic surgery clinic also disclosed a
hack around the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
I recently gone after critical cogs and supply change such
as United Health Groups Change Healthcare subsidiary which routes claims
from pharmacies and healthcare providers to sures and facilitates payments.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
So that I understand medical privacy anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
No, No, I think gat is it. Hippa and Fika
and Facco and ocean Wicca and all of them are
totally being violated.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Here they for ABC.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
There you go, They're all being violated. Dakka and fakka.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
And another full disclosure. I actually did work briefly for.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
You, Lifo fifo. I mean, it's all being it's all
being hacked. Absolutely, that's insane. And these poor people, they're
already going through so much. Speaking of going through so much,
just magic, losing your entire life, I mean fifty years

(01:37:52):
this man spent in prison for something he did not do.
You spent some time in you So how do you
pronounce this lovely man's name?

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Iwata iwow Haakamata okay.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
So in court in Japan on Thursday acquitted iwau Haakamata,
the world's longest serving death row inmates the world, not
just a pan.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
And this is on September twelve six.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
It was just a few days, just a few days ago,
half a century after he was arrested and sentenced to
death on the basis of some blood stained cloths found
near the site of the quadruple murders. Hakkamata was sentenced
to death over the killings of a senior manager, the
manager's wife, and two children children at the Miso factory,

(01:38:38):
where he I'm never gonna eat miso again. Miso is
a local food seasoned. Everybody knows that the victims were
found stabbed to death in nineteen sixty six in their
house that had been burnt down. So first they got stabbed,
then they got burnt. Hakamata was arrested in the same
year and his death sentence was finalized in nineteen eighty.

(01:39:00):
A long time sixty six to eighty these thank you.
On Thursday said the investigator.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Court very important to say that just some Shizuoka.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
That's true. Not everybody is. Those who are listening cannot
see the words, so yes, I stand corrected. Thissukua District
Court on Thursday said the investigators had fabricated evidence at
the end of the retrial that captured the imagination of
the Japanese people. The eighty eight year old former professional

(01:39:37):
boxer spent nearly five decades as a death row inmate.
He was released from prison in twenty fourteen following new evidence.
The retrial began in October twenty twenty three. Why was
there a retrial if he was found innocent?

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
There must be something in the Japanese legal system that
allows for that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Yeah, because we have double jeopardy here. There were three
instances of fabrication of evidence, including five pieces of clothing
that Hakkamada was alleged to have worn during the incident
and his confession. Coyoto News Agency quoted the court as saying,
the court also said, wait, the way that's worded is

(01:40:18):
that he wore it while he stabbed them, and then
he put them back on to confess really bad writing.
The court also said his confession was forced by inflicting
physical and mental pain, describing his questioning as inhumane. Yes,
if you torture somebody long enough, they will admit to
doing things they did not do. The bloodstained class and

(01:40:40):
they keep seeing cloths not clothes, but class used as
evidence against Hakamada were found in a miso tank near
the site of the murders.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Translated from Japanese, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Okay, that makes sense some description. So there wasn't an
editor who actually checked it out. No, No, it was
probably translated by a and they're just like okay. Anyways,
it was found in the Miso tank at the site
of the murders fourteen months later. The defense team said
the color of blood could not remain red in the

(01:41:12):
tank for such a long time. The court agreed to
this argument. Could not remain red, No, because blood turns
brown after it's been out for a while. How weird
looking at the clothing. In twenty twenty three March, the
Tokyo High Court had ordered the retrials, citing the strong
possibility of investigators planting the five pieces of clothing. The

(01:41:37):
High Court in twenty eighteen had initially decided not to
reopen the case. Yeah, he was already free. They should
have left it go, but the Supreme Court in twenty
twenty ordered it to re examine his ruling. Kyoto News
Agency reported this poor man Hakkamada, who maintained his innocence
throughout all these years, was held by his elder sister,

(01:41:58):
Hakkamada Hideko hed Echo, who was thirty three at the
time of his arrest, was a firm supporter of her brother.
Appearing in court to support him. For all these five decades,
EOL wrote to his family from prison every day, and
HK said in a report, I am not the culprit.
I am screaming every day. He wrote this to his

(01:42:19):
mother in nineteen sixty seven, a year after his arrest.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
At some point the screaming stopped. I'm sure. God, it's
just horrible. And there's nothing you can do, absolutely nothing
you can do to repay this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
No no amount of money. Nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
He's old. I mean what he's got.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
He's just gonna have a couple of years of quote
quote freedom and then die. Awful, just awful. I just
can't even imagine. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry for
this man. That is a truly awful thing. Okay, Meanwhile,
he spends his life in jail for something he didn't wear,

(01:43:00):
and now folks are going to jail, are being kicked
out of venues for things that they are wearing, which
is absolutely ridiculous. This is a violation of our First
Amendment rights.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Gojim fantastic. This Trump supporter is playing hardball with the
New York mets. Aurra Moody wants two million dollars in
damages from the team in City Field, claiming she was
barred from entering the stadium last month until she took

(01:43:33):
off her make America Great Again hat. According to a
September sixth Brooklyn Federal Court lawsuit, the Republican from Saint Albans,
Queens insisted by the band violated her right to free
speech and caused her emotional distress. This country is supposed
to be the beacon of freedom for all. Moody, sixty four,
who is representing herself, told the post.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
Or Man, they are right, black, do not crack. She
is a good looking woman for sixty four.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
I haven't seen her. Yeah, shet, Yeah, Okay. She's accused
the Mets of racial discrimination and political retaliation and reputational harm.
Good nail it. Moody, a social worker and mother of two.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Fellow social worker, said she and her friend were wearing
MAGA hats when they ride a city field on August
fourteenth for a Mets Oakland Freaking game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
People calmed down.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
They were with eight other members of the Queen's Village
Republican Club. They had just made a past security when
a city field staffer told them they were not allowed
inside of their Trump gear. On, she said why. Moody
said she tried to invoke her First Amendment rights multiple
times but was told by the staff that the mega
cap was too political and she needed to take it off.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
Moody, So, kneeling during the national anthem is not too political,
and I.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Have no doubt that there were people wearing wearing Harris
hats and yeah boo. Anyway, I'm just willing to bet
that because it's New York. Moody and her pal, who
were both on the board of the club, only agreed
to take their hats off because they were worried about
inconveniencing the rest of their group who were already in
their seat.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
It's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
Moody attempted to de escalate the situation and asked if
she could put her Maga hat in her bag, but
was told no, because you can put the hat back
on when you get to your seat.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Give me a break.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
You have to take the Maga hat out of the
stadium of papers.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Okay. So they basically got like joy read freaking out
tdsing all over them. This is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
Moody knew she was being racially targeted and politically retaliated
against her being a black woman wearing a Maga hat,
so she requessibly.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
I hate to say that, I usually don't buy into
this jump, but it sounds to me like she really was.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
Yeah, she requested to speak to a supervisor, she said
in the legal filing. When Moody asked the security supervisor
she was required to take her Maga hat outside city field,
the supervisor replied policy, yeah, over there, So the two
women were forced to call a friend a cardboard with
in order to put the hats back in the vehicle.

(01:46:09):
Moody claim, they don't let you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
Back in the stadium once you leave, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
When Moody finally arrived at her seat, she observed white
persons wearing Maga hats and Mega attire other members of
her group. She said in litigation, a Mets employee was
mistaken about our attire policy. The team initially said, we
are reaching out to ourra Moody to apologize and invite
her back to the ballpark. The acknowledges that a team

(01:46:40):
rep phone Moody August seventeenth and apologize on behalf of
the New York Mets and assured that there is no
such policy against and the staff has been.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
Retrained, he trained.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
I hope fired fire to be good. The Mets have
no common lawsuits, said Nancy Elder as team spoke some
when Moody told the Post she has not returned to
Cityfield since the maga hat fiasco and isn't sure if
she ever will. It was embarrassing, it was heartbreaking, it
was shocking, it was humiliating. So I'm going to go back.
It may take some time, she says.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
I understand where she's coming from, because when you are
humiliated publicly like that and they act like you're doing
something wrong when you're not. Even after they apologize and say, oh,
come back. This has literally happened to me in Vegas.
You know, we don't have a policy against bare feet
or magaats or whatever, you know, and they're like come back.

(01:47:31):
You're like, but why, Yeah, they'd have to do.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
A lot more than just I hope that she at
least gets part of this money it's settled.

Speaker 13 (01:47:43):
Yeah, I hate they really need does shrivolous lawsuits.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
But when you go against the constitution because of your
TDS or whatever craziness you have in your brain, you
need to be It needs to sting. It needs to hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
They need to feel it, and they have the money, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Something they don't. Yeah, yeah, it needs to stain.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
All. This is not Baba Waters.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
It is no longer twenty twenty. But this is your
new abnormal. If you can't raise corporate taxes, or if
GOP takes control of the Senate, where do you get

(01:48:42):
the money to do that? Do you still go forward
those plans and borrow?

Speaker 6 (01:48:47):
Well, but we're gonna have to raise corporate taxes, and
we're gonna have to raise We're gonna have to make
sure that the biggest corporations and billionaires pay their fair share.
That's just it. It's about paying their fair share. I am
not mad at anyone for achieving success, but everyone should

(01:49:09):
pay their fair share. And it is not right that
the teachers and the firefighters that I meet every day
across our country are paying a higher tax than the
richest people in our country.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
President there wasn't a.

Speaker 10 (01:49:22):
Single thing that idea that she couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
Do, and so I was able to delegate her responsibility
on everything from foreign policy and in messial policy. She
simply has said, it doesn't have to be this way.
It doesn't have to be this way. We can't afford.
We can't afford four more years of this. And I've
been saying it, Jay, she's into each.

Speaker 10 (01:49:49):
All Do you think you just fell out of a
coconut tree?

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
So this story is a classic candidate a restaurant and
headlines and very drastically different headlines.

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
Very drastically different headlines and approaches.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
So let's start with this one. JD. Vance has classy
response after iconic restaurant refuses to let him in. So
let's learn about his classy response.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Now, the article, this article has just some of the stories.
I'm gonna give you the full one. It's the same same.

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
Give us the full story before we look at the article.

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
The article is the full story. I'm throwing throwing me off,
It's okay the Publican vice presidential nominee JD. Vance attempted
to stop by the iconic Primanti Brothers restaurant at North Vicies,
Pennsylvania on Saturday, where scores of supporters that gathered in
anticipation of the visit. Upon arriving, the restaurant manager told

(01:51:08):
Vance that they didn't want to hold a campaign event
in the store. Quote quote campaign event, even though the
same location of course cleared out customers to stage a
photo op for Vice President Harris earlier this year. An
employee told the campaign that this was not a campaign
stap and the JD's not allowed in. In addition, the

(01:51:28):
restaurant manager threatened to call the police if Vance entered
the establishment. A bit over the top Trump Vance supporters
who had gathered at the restaurant proceeded to boo the
manager after Vance was barred from entry. Sean logan attorney
from the Pittsburgh area who witnessed the interaction, uploaded several
videos from inside the store to social media. I'm like

(01:51:49):
right by the Primanti Brothers near McKee Sport. I wanted
to document what happened because there's some confusion about exactly
what took place. Long story short, a whole bunch of
people from Allegheny County, myself, others. We got two Promanty
Brothers about okay. We got to Promanty Brothers about twelve
forty five that let us in Log explain. He added
that half the crowd is dressed in Trump gear, while

(01:52:11):
others were dressed normally. JD.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
Vance rum gear is abnormal, but okay.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
Well. JD. Vance's suv pulls up, Secret Service comes to
the restaurant. Secret Service guards the area between the suv
and the entrance to the restaurant. JD. Vance gets out,
and then the manager runs out and yells at him
and says, you can't come in here. Log continued. He
then reported the.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Rest of the article, because I've got nothing, you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Go down to where well hold on just like.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
The next article. Okay, annoying, I hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
Don't do this, okay, right where after it says others
were dressed normally blue, says China controls blah blah blah,
run underneath read more click trendingpoliticsnews dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
Yeah, don't got it going b Why do I have
to click on a totally different thing? That is a terrible,
terrible way to run your website? Stop it?

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Okay? Where Vance? Then, I don't know anymore? Pulls UPGV
pulls up on the thing. He then reported that the
manager called company headquarters was told that Vance was not
allowed in the building.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
In the building, in the building at all.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
At all, Vince, not at all. Vance then proceeded to
meet with supporters in the parking lot while the staffer
told people inside to write down their names so that
the vice presidential nominee can meet with them the next
time he comes to town. We went in there, We
paid for everybody's food. We gave them a nice tip,
and of course I told them no taxes on tips
if you vote for Trump, Vance told the crowd, drawing cheers. Okay.

(01:53:41):
The Trump campaigns had a far different experience at the
restaurant when compared to the where Harris Waltz campaign, who
visited the location last month. According to several patrons, restaurants
staff kicked out paying customers replace them with Harris supporters
in an effort to make the campaign stop up here.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Orgain much as the bus and all her supporters for
every rally she goes to.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
I wanted to watch some sports and enjoint afternoon lunch.
Moon Township resident Mark Dodson told Fox News around three thirty,
the bartender she goes, it's last call. What do you
mean by last call? Employees un informed patrons that the
restaurant was closing for a private event, which turned out
to be the rival of Vice President Dufus and her husband,
Doug m Hoff the nanny Banger. The couple then proceeded

(01:54:26):
to greet patrons and pose for photos. Okay, see that's
and that's how you handle it. He handled in a
very classy way. He said, please continue to to patronize
the restaurant, although I certainly would not.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
Okay, So that is a relatively normal reporting on it,
kind of balance. They gave bal Yeah, they basically gave
the facts. So let's look at how another the so independent. Yeah,
the so called independent that is anything.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
But it's based out of Britain.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
And just seriously look at this headline.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
JD Evans suffer's latest campaign fail after being denied entry
into a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
How was that a campaign failed when a whole bunch
of people supported him and still rallied outside with him,
Because it's.

Speaker 3 (01:55:19):
A failed dang it. Jdvan suffered yet another embarrassing setback
on the campaign trail after being denied entry into a
restaurant where he's supposed to speak and being forced to
address supporters in the parking lot instead.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
That's not even true.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
He wasn't chose to do it there.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
Yeah, he chose to speak there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
According to reports, after showing up to Permanty Brothers in
South Verside, Pennsylvania, a restaurant worker told the press that
cameras were not allowed and they did not want a
campaign event.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Well, I mean they weren't prepared to kick out. They're
paying customers, so that you know.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
The restaurant was reportedly full of customers waiting to greet
Vans who canceled their food orders and he wasn't welcome.
Vance ended up glad handing in the parking lot outside.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
According to Dance, canceled their food or that's not what
the other article said.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
The customers canceled their food or not. Vance customers cancer, Well,
they're the independent the restaurant. Vance.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
It's great local business. Let's keep on supporting it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
Yeah, that's what he said. Vance ended up glad handing
the probably outside, paid everyone's food, gave him a nice
tip on the course, and given a nice tip. I said,
no taxes on tip that sold those gathered. I don't
hold it against the restaurant worker. It's a great local business.
Let's keep on supporting it. The latest food shop related
gaff led the many online questioning those that make advance
arrangements for the Republican vice presidential nominee, with one ex

(01:56:47):
users claiming he has the worst advanced team in modern
election history. Just last week, it was roundly mocked online.
Over a trip to the supermarket also in Pennsylvania, or
He bemoaned the steep cost of eggs, claiming that Harris's
economic policies had led to the price being four dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
Wow, four dollars is cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
I saw him for five twenty five just yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
The problem when footage of the visiting merged vance was
quickly called out by viewers with spoted the price tag
of a dozen eggs behind him was actually two dollars
and ninety nine cents.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
Yeah, but look at what he's holding in his hand.
That's not a dozen eggs.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
Well, it's also you know, maybe it was. Maybe it's
two ninety nine now, but at some point a dozen
eggs was easily four dollars or more.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
I said, I just saw him for over five just yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
And in Philadelphia, the Ohio Senator tried to crack a
joke and ordering a Philly cheese steak at the famed
Pats King of States, but he wound up accusing being
accused of committing a crime against humanity after it fell flat.
What was the joke?

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
What was the joke?

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
I don't know. In August, Vance admitted the Trump campaign
screwed up after an awkward visit to a donut shop
in Valdosta, Georgia. The GOP veep nominee struggle to make
small talk while buying baked goods with an employee who
clearly did not want to be on camera. The excruciating
moment went viral. I just feel terrible for that women.

(01:58:18):
Vance later said, Okay, I've got to look up.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
This Pat's King of States. What did Vance say? That
was a crime against humanity? I mean, if it's a joke,
I mean, seriously, what kind of joke it could be
a crime against humanity. That's a bit over.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
The top, a bit way stupid over the top.

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Okay, so I've got sort of an article here. Let's
see what it says. JD. Vance went to Pat's King
of States on Monday for a cheese steak following a
campaign stop in North Philly, but he wanted to know
why the South Philadelphia stable didn't have Swiss cheese. Oh
the humanity. I don't like Swiss cheese either, the Republican

(01:59:04):
Vice president nominee said through the window to several employees
at the cheese steak shop on Ninth Street, but everyone
says it's insulting. Why do you guys hate it so much?
What's the story? I'm not seeing a crime against humanity. Hey,
Pat's employee can be heard replying events saying, we don't
hate it, we just don't use it. Oh my god,

(01:59:25):
like such a diss How horrible was that? I am
sure he has red faced and cannot sleep anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
Sandwich? Does it have steak? Does it have cheese? Does
it have friends?

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
Ended up ordering a whiz whip a kache steak with cheese.
Whiz yuck. He then signed some autographs of people end
up around Pats and took photos with some employees, and
then they go on to tell you what their menu has.
Why is this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:59):
Even a an international incident? He put down the Swiss
under cheese full disclosure.

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
Presidential election. Then Democrat presidential nominee John Kerry was in
Philadelphia and asked for his cheese steak with Swiss cheese
instead of cheese, which whiz, which didn't end well, don't
come into Philadelphia and try to cater favor with us
and then order Swiss cheese, which no one does in Philadelphia.
So it sounds to me like vance knew what he

(02:00:27):
was doing, and last year former President Donald Trump, Vance's
running made in the twenty twenty four election, stopped at
pats Or. Later this year, Trump went to Tony and Nixon,
South Philly, the original location of Tony Blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (02:00:42):
What is the.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
What is the crime against humanity? I'm totally confused right now.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
It's just in the Independent being independent of rationality.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
The Independent has lost its way. It is messed up.
I mean that headline, that headline was way over the top.
All right, folks, well, welcome to the new normal. I
have an idea.

Speaker 3 (02:01:06):
That's a great idea. Whatever it is, just get out
of there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
The great idea is let's end on a high note,
shall we? Oh, you can do higher than that. No,
he's easycause you're beautiful. I just scared the pets out

(02:01:32):
of the room.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
Fritzy's gone for the night, and so am I. But
before I do.

Speaker 12 (02:01:38):
One last a story.

Speaker 1 (02:01:51):
Here on counterculture. Wise, we may rant, we may rave,
but most of all, we go against the current culture
because we believe to the four of our beings that
humans are good and the world is an amazing and
beautiful place. At the beginning of our show. We give
you news of the weird and wonderful. But that is

(02:02:12):
just the tip of the magnificent iceberg. That is our world.
We now present news of the wonderfuller. We both talked
on the last one so much. I don't know who's

(02:02:33):
reading the last one.

Speaker 3 (02:02:34):
You're reading the last one.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
This isn't make me cry one.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
No, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
Know, Becau. Usually you're over in the corner, giggling maniacally.
Whether you think I'm going to for.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
You, because I know a question is going to show
I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
This heartwarming story follows the unexpected friendship between a young
woman and an elderly man in Scotland. Oh please pronounce
this way ify Isabella Malone ao fi ao f This
Isabella A I am aim moved to Scotland at nineteen

(02:03:09):
to chase her dreams in the fashion industry. While working
at a local betting shop, she met Tommy, an eighty
nine year old widower who had recently lost his wife.
When even I'm gonna keep calling her, I gotta look
this up. I gotta look up how this is pronounced.
Somebody help me. How do you pronounce this woman's name?

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
A wife?

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
How to pronounce whatever the heck this name is. I
knew I did ormie wrong. Epha, Epha okay, Epha. Here's
here's even a YouTube video. Here we go traditional Irish names, I, A, O, I,

(02:03:57):
F E. You know their first two letters ephah now right,
So this woman's name is Epa. That's actually kind of pretty.
One evening, Epha extended a simple yet profound gesture of
kindness that would change both their lives. From that moment on,
their bond blossomed into something truly special. Efa documented this

(02:04:20):
incredible journey through a touching series of photos on TikTok ah, so.

Speaker 3 (02:04:27):
Read them as you go.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
For there a slightly bizarre story of how I became
friends with an eighty nine now ninety eight year old
man and it shows a key chain with pictures of them.
He's really cute. Yeah, pointing to his hand. Yeah, it
kind of does. Yeah. Yeah. When I was nineteen, I
moved to a small town in Scotland to study fashion.
A girl's got to eat and the job ops were limited.

(02:04:51):
Why she put an apostrophe and were? I do not understand.
So I started working.

Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
In a bookies that is a betting establish gotcha that's
why I was looking it up.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
Okay, thank you. A man called Tommy would come in
multiple times a day. It was obvious he was really lonely.
His wife had died the year before, and he was
coming into the bookies for some company. He dressed so
nice and everything. After a few days of working there
and seeing him come in so many times during my shift,
I asked him if I could join him at the
bingo that night. He was delighted and got all dressed

(02:05:24):
up for the occasion. I mean, like, actual suit, tie,
the whole bit. Some of my UNI friends came with
me because they were like, why are you meeting some
random man at night? Smart Tommy walking into the Bengo
with four young ones on his arm was the talk
of the town that week. Oh yeah, four hot eas. Yeah.
That night at the bingo was the start of a
beautiful friendship. I'd see Tommy when I was at work

(02:05:47):
every day. I'd go to his house a few times
a week. He'd cook me dinner at his house, or
I'd take him out for dinner or the cinema of
the pictures he calls it. Yeah, that's what old peple
call it. Fish and ships looks so good. We don't
do the peace here in the US.

Speaker 3 (02:06:02):
No, except the actual pubs the Irish.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Yeah, and our favorite one in Vegas closed down thanks
to COVID. I dragged him to the charity shops a
lot too. He doesn't even know how to do the
peace sign. He's holding up like or he's trying to
hold up two fingers. It's cute. He started to teach
me how to drive, and I ended up passing my
test in his car. But it's not there, Oh.

Speaker 3 (02:06:28):
Okay, he's posing for some Oh okay.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
So he's posing for a bunch of pictures. It's really cute.
You have to go to the lively because this one
it deletes sometimes. He started to teach me how to drive,
and I ended up passing my test in his car.
I've had instructors back home in Belfast, but if Tommy
hadn't taken me out to practice nearly every day for months,
I'd never have passed. They acok like, it's so hard
to drive. I was driving at fourteen. After our first

(02:06:54):
year of Unied, my besties and I moved to Edinburgh
and started to commute to UNI. Tommy would meet us
at the stage every day and drives to UNI. That's
so cute. He became good friends with all my friends
and we'd take him out for dinner, watched the Six
Nations at his house, and even had a surprise party
for him one year. Ah. When I moved to she's

(02:07:16):
doing like little Bunny. Bunny years behind him and everything.
He always really nice to tie vest the old dress. Yeah.
When I moved to Edinburgh, Tommy would come visit every
few weeks. He met all my work friends at the
pub I worked in, and then I would come to
the shop I worked in. We'd go for dinner and
sometimes go see a show, which he always loved. Over
the years, he met pretty much all my friends. So

(02:07:38):
there's a picture of them in a pub. They're all
young'in's and he looks like their grandpa and my family too.
He met my brothers and cousins in twenty eighteen. So sweet.
He was my mom's plus one at my graduation in
twenty nineteen. Ah. Not long after I got situated, I

(02:08:00):
found out I'd gotten a job in NYC. We spent
our last night sitting on a bench in Saint Andrew's
Square in Eidenberg, sharing earphones, listening to Frank Sinatra. I
wasn't sure how long I'd be in America, so I
was scared I wouldn't see him for years. And I'd
say he felt the same. Well, Afi was in NYC

(02:08:22):
COVID Hit. She was worried about him being in isolation,
so she came up with a plan to shower him
with love. I posted about him on Instagram to ask
people if they'd send him a card for his ninety
fifth birthday, and it went pretty viral. He received thousands
of cards, presents, and cakes for people all over the words.

(02:08:47):
School Children wrote him letter as a project sent by
their teachers. Ah. So sweet. And I taught him how
to do the PEACEI he finally gets it right. He
finally gets here right. Ah here they are sticking their
tongue out at the camera. He's ninety eight now, ninety
nine next month, and I get to see him every

(02:09:08):
six weeks or so. He's in a care home now,
but he's still as sharp as the day I first
met him.

Speaker 3 (02:09:13):
The end, that's really sweet.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
That is I love that story. It's like she got
a grandpa. You know, I wish I had a grandpa.
That is a really sweet story. Well, folks, believe it
or not, we have come to the end of another
counterculture Wise show. I hope you had as much fun
as we did. I know it was a little.

Speaker 3 (02:09:34):
Cheesy, but you've got a few extra times.

Speaker 1 (02:09:39):
But g g geez. Yes, Fritzy was thrilled. Yes. And
Jim's off and on his way to bed because he
has to be up at the crack of ass in
the morning. And I'm going to go make something with cheese.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
I sneaked a couple of fritzy bait.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Fritzy bait otherwise known as string cheese.

Speaker 3 (02:09:57):
Yes, she lives string cheese.

Speaker 1 (02:10:00):
Be friends somebody, somebody you never would have thought that
you'd be friends. You'll learn a lot, ask a lot
of questions and just let them talk. And for the
next week or so, enjoy some cheese amongst friends, and
we will see you next week.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
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