Retail Therapy

On tonight’s CounterCultureWISE podcast: Retail Therapy!
Nightmarish tales of Black Friday FightsWeasels and Froggies and Wondrous sights! 
…all this plus News of the Weird, Wonderful, and Wicked.

Episode Transcript

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And by the way, before we continue, I do want
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And if you hear any loud, chippy noises, it's because
I have the most goodeous cardinal right outside the window.
And he's very happy because I just refilled all the
bird feeders after the squirrels tipped them all over and
actually chewed them.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
To pieces, and so we got a renegade squirrel.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
We do, we do like So now the bird feeder
is held up by actual chain and metal, and there's
there's moth balls all over the bird feeders because the
birds don't care, but the squirrels supposedly don't like the
see and we bought squirrel food, so maybe we can
lure the squirrels away. We'll see how this goes. Set

(04:53):
up a really interesting little scenario. Yeah, so it's it's
actually tethered between two trees and a kind of swings
and moves and shifts, and it's got a bowl of food,
squirrel food.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I think one squirrel probably knock it over the rest
of them.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Probably, that's what we'll see. We'll see and we'll give
it a shot. And the squirrel feeder right now is
occupied in the distance, so that's nice. And that's the
one where they have to actually lift the little the
little lid and get food out of it. And there
is a scroll on it as we speak, so at
least there's that. So if the squirrels are over there
eating there, they're basically they're deercorn and peanuts and mixture

(05:30):
of nonsense that I put out there. Maybe they'll leave
the bird feeders alone, because we'll try, and you know,
and if all of that doesn't work, Sadie really does
love chasing the square does, so we'll just set.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Up a squirrels hate it, but yeah, a dog chases.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
If we didn't have to get up and let her
out every time, that'd be swell. So maybe we'll install
the squirrel chasing door. Just let her go for it. Alrighty,
ladies and gentlemen, we have got quite the show prepared
for you today. We thought we'd have a little bit
of fun. And even though it is technically Sunday and
no longer Black Friday, there's still people out there shopping

(06:09):
and we are not those people.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
We went shopping yesterday, but.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
We stayed away from the grocery shop.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
We stayed away from the.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I am not I am not into Black Friday at all.
I have never done that in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I did Thursday, like Thanksgiving night, at a Walmart because
we needed some groceries. We'd forgotten that it was thanks
Yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
It wasn't as bad as it could happen, No.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
It could. They were. It was mostly them setting up
the TVs.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know, it's a cliche, but I swear to God,
the cheapest TVs in the world come out of the
woodwork on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
We don't care because we don't own a television, so
it never will no interest, I won't say never. I'll
never say an Okay, well, I say never because I
have no interest and there's nothing on television anyway.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
So one thing before we start cracking on the Black Friday,
I under blacking. I did have an interview yesterday with
Anthony Augustino, doctor Anthony at his book Prejudiced Racism and Tribalism.
I did read the book. I did learn a few things,

(07:17):
and although he and I were on opposite sides politically
about a lot of things, we found a lot of
common ground. And I think we've had a really, really
entertaining and enlightening interview. And that's going to be either
this Wednesday or.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
The following probably this Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Our ultimate goal is to have an interview every Wednesday,
but we do not have one lined up for the
following Wednesday. But we are going to be interviewing folks
fast and furiously because there's a lot of authors, musicians
and fun people out there that we want to learn
more about. I mean, we're we're not Joe Rogan, but you.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Know, I don't know if well, I'm not going to
say to everybody.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Wants to be Joe Rogan, who knows. Maybe someday Trump
will be on our show. That'd be awesome. Can you
imagine the Trump motorcade coming all the way to frig
out here?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, I really can't. We'd probably have to take the
show to him.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't think we'd have to come all of the
show and get lost. Yeah, they get really Yeah, and
I don't think they could secure the perimeter. Well. The
great thing though, is where we are located, the perimeter
would pretty much be secured because you've got a bunch
of red nets with a lot of guns, and we've
got your back. We've got your six mister presidents.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Absolutely, congratulations again on winning the elections aspect.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, And that's the great thing is now that we're
a little bit more optimistic, we don't have to spend
so much time on politics.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean we're still going.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, Chuckstow has a job. He is just so much
more relieved. And I'm telling you, I've been mixing him
weaker and weaker martiniz I might actually wean him off
altogether day Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, I mean, he didn't even ask me for a
drink when he came into the office.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Usually he starts drinking around ten and.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
She's and crackers and a guy at Doctor Pepper. Well
that that's my favorite snacks, so I had plenty to
do there.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
You go. Yeah, wow, have we ever seen you and
Chuck in the same room and just wondering?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, that's a mystery, isn't it. I'll never say.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
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Speaker 1 (09:39):
You can also reach us on multiple.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Audio only such as only Heart, Spotify. Social media social
media is we got the Twatters, We've got the Facebook
sort of Facebook.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm personally one of my personal accounts is on Blue
Sky if we want to catch up with my.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, there's nobody on theirs. Like it's like Shrieking Liberals
and Tumbleings. It's hilarious futuls. But yeah, I'm not on
there either. Well.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I love I just love it that all these guys
did there the online version moving to Canada and they
all move from X to Blue Sky. It's like they
find themselves being targeted and then.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
The trolled control.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, so Blue Sky is not the liberal haven you
think it is.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Well, what's really funny is they're so upset that Twitter
is has, as they say, become this right wing conspiracy theory, this,
that and the other, and it's still I believe it's
still like fifty eight percent liberal. Yeah, they still have the.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Majority of the as it would be on social media.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
They don't like their own they don't even like their
own voice. It's hilarious, it's crazy. Anyways, we don't want
to talk too much about that. Let's get into some
horror first stories. We should have been Yeah, we should
have done that. We should have done a Black Friday
tale of modern horror. I don't think we've ever done
that before. Oh, there's still time for Christmas. Isn't that

(11:15):
the movie jingle all the way? So I thought, rather
than since we have some fun, well maybe not so fun,
interesting stories about Black Friday, and I thought, rather than
you know, just having y'all sit there looking at words
that I would I would play you a Yeah, let's

(11:41):
let's just do a nice little what's the word I'm
looking for? What is that called? The videos? I can't
think of the thing. Now, don't you hate it when
you know the word? Anyways? Its off fast? No, it's
that what is that call where it goes to the
In fact, I even had to press the button thank
you slide show? Why could I not think of that word?

(12:02):
To save my life? Okay, so I figured i'd play
a slide show of Thanksgiving images.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
That you can watch them on rock Well.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, well they're all Norman Rocker, it's all. It's all
basically and as you saw, we even did our own
version there. So we'll let you watch that while we
read these. Do you want to start it? Would you
like me to start?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, we're going to go back and forth. These are
nightmare tales of Black Friday. Years ago, I got hired
as a seasonal help for Toys r US. It was
before they redesigned the stores into it says the current mess,
but they really isn't the current mess anymore.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, there's no Toys r Us anymore. So that is
a current mess if you really want to think about it.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
And everything was in long aisles. I got stuck in
Aisle one, which is board games on one side. I
remember that I love the board.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Games too, yeah, and the hippity hops and the.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Big glass case of video games on the other This
was the year that Super Nintendo came out, so we
had one behind the glass with a controller outside she
could try out Super Mario. I'm up on the ladder
a getting more copies of Crocodile dentists down to restock
the lord ship, and here's some yelling. I look down.
Two kids are shoving each other in front of the SNS.

(13:11):
They start swinging at h other, and the parents intervene,
only to start fighting themselves. I slide down the ladder
and my manager rushes over to try and stop things
from getting worse. One of the parents had a bat,
a baseball bat, not a batman bat. Had a bat
in his cart and hits the other guy square in
the back, knocking him into the display cabinet, shattering the
glass and cutting him up really good.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
The guy with the bat realizes what he did and
grabs his kids and tries to make a run for
the door. Management is trying to block him from leaving
as they go and manage to get the cop that
is outside directing traffic. The police come in and wrestle
this clown. I'm sorry. This guy to the ground while
his kids watch. He resists and gets a serious beat
down in the middle of the store. The other guy
that went through the glass is cut up and bleeding
really bad. He ends up losing an eye. Over the

(13:55):
whole thing. After this is all over, we have to
lock up the sne and you can only try it
out if management opens the case for you. The other
really messed up part of this whole thing is that
people are taking toys out of the cut up man's
card as the MS works on him. As kids sits,
they're crying. One woman even tries to take the blood
splatter demo SM to try to buy for her kid.

(14:18):
People are heartless, mindless sheep when it comes to cheap crap. Ever,
since this, I spend my Black Fridays at.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Home, I guess so wow. So that got seventeen hundred
votes as being horrifying. I'm gonna give that. It's one
seven and fifteenth vote. Okay, this one's This one's short
and so wweet. My first Black Friday, I was working
at a Walmart. I was assigned to be one of

(14:44):
the employees that would cut open the plastic on the
palates which contained our merchandise, which we're all on the floor.
As I ready to a box cutter, I got shoved
by a customer, fell right on it and sliced my
my hand open. After getting through that and patching it up,
I came out on the floor and promptly got punched

(15:06):
in the face when I picked up a DVD off
the ground a customer apparently wanted it. And this person
ends with f Black Friday. People, come on, it's they're
just buying stuff. And if you don't understand how little
that means to reality, go watch George Carlin talk about stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah. Get the George Carlin album The Place for My Stuff, Yes,
and listen to the whole thing. And for every time
you feel the need to engage in extreme materialism like this.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I worked one Black Friday in the closed department at
Walmart for like two straight hours. Before the sale began,
people hovered over the palletts. The alarm went off, and
the swarm just went insane. There were two women in particular,
on opposite sides tossing clothes back and forth to each other.
I don't know what their system was, but half the
stuff they were just catching and tossing aside. But this

(16:03):
little teenager, I mean like petite, tiny girl, intercepted a
pair of jeans being tossed and the women went insane
and elbowed her in the face. Instant blood. The little
girl was so shocked she just stood there, shaking and crying.
The women acted like that was a perfectly reasonable thing
to do. I pulled her out of the crowd and
started walker to get her cleaned up. On the sheriff

(16:25):
appeared out of nowhere. The best part was she was
this kid. His kid was his kid. And the women
were arrested on the spot. They had to post bail
and pay full price for that. I'm using, you know,
because they don't.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They are not holding back on the language, but we are.
I worked at Walmart. Why is it always Walmart? Oh?
The next one is because there's no Yeah that's talking
about them, that Amazon, and there's no Black Friday on
an Amazon.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I worked at Walmart for four years and worked all
Black Fridays. I've seen a woman hit another woman in
the chest with those toddler car boxes you drive in.
A woman got hit was a week or two post
off of open heart surgery. Lots of blood right in
front of me. No idea what happened to the other
woman hit her? I do think she got the toy

(17:19):
car purchased and left.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
This is one of my favorites. Part this is one
of my favorites. I worked at Best Buy for six years.
Everyone knows about the lines that you standing outside. Part
of the process is once you get into the store,
you stand in another line to buy your products. Our
manager thought he was particularly smart winding the lion through
our appliance department. Mind you, there are usually one five
hundred plus people in the building at six am with

(17:44):
the line still outside. Well, we got a complaint from
one of our patrons. After checking the dryers, we found
a nice turti in you, good size, solid consistency, just
sitting there. A lady who did not want to lose
her spot, open the dryer and shot right there in
front of everyone. I decided that day, even though we
may want stuff, I will never in front of an
entire crowd of people for seven hundred and ninety nine

(18:04):
dollars fifty inch plasma TV.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
What planet are these people from? Earth?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
What third world? Freaking oh la? This old lady wanted
a cancer pink ribbon fabric, so let's see. Uh, it
doesn't say where as she ultimately tackled what And the
woman she ultimately tackled had called ahead and ordered a
bulk amount of it because she works for a cancer
organization and makes blank blankets for cancer patients. I can

(18:36):
already tell this is going to be awful. The woman
was we lea a cart in the store with several
large bolts of the fabric in it, So this must.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Be a.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah or something like one of those which she had
special order, and we put it in the cart for
her so she could continue shopping. Old lady sees that
this woman has all the bolts and it isn't right
that she's hogging the entire stuff of that particular print.
The woman explains the situation and that she in fact
special ordered these and that the reason she was coming

(19:06):
in on Black Friday to purchase them is because they
were a major Black Friday promotion at sixty percent off.
That is significant. The old lady continues to yell at
the poor woman. The woman very calmly keeps trying to
reassure her that she is not taking any of the
store stock and that she makes blankets for dying women
with breast cancer. She's a very sweet store regular who

(19:28):
pays out of pocket for all the blankets, and so
my store held the fabric for her until Black Friday,
when she would come in and purchase them with her coupon.
The old lady doesn't give up. More, whips out mace
and tackle. Mace really over fabric and tackles the woman.
The old lady gets kicked out of the store. She

(19:49):
would come in once every couple of months, give me
the stink eye, and then rebelliously write down recipes from
the Home and Food magazine so she wouldn't have to
buy them. Then she'd go re out and come back
in a few months.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
This one year, when I was fifteen, I worked at
where else Walmart. Once again, we have a good story
about Walmart.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Later on, I had to look up the crocodile dentist game.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Okay, it's a.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Thing, and apparently you can't still buy it a work. Yeah,
apparently it doesn't take any batteries or anything. Else. Can
probably this over here so you can see it. It
doesn't take any batteries or anything. And there's a video.
I doubt if we can hear it. But let's see,
apparently crocodile dentist. I don't know if you can hear them,

(20:39):
which tooth is bothering poor croc crocodile take turns pressing
crocs teeth, but watch out. If you press the wrong one,
he will snaps. You're out. It's a different tooth each time. Okay.
Great for travel, no loose parts, batteries or reading required.

(21:00):
Super fun for ages four and up. And that's all
they do is just press on his cheek. Okay, that's
that's cute.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's cute.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Crocodile debt. So it is a thing.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Now we're interesting for about a year and then toss.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
They probably find it interesting for about five minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Anyway, this one year, when I was fifteen, I worked
at Walmart doing shelf stocking. This time we happened to
have this doll on sale for nineteen ninety nine. Toys
r US had the same doll for seventy nine to
ninety nine. Oh boy, I know where this is going.
Between two thousand and three and two thousand and four, anyway,
people knew about this. I mean people were lined up
outside five hours before we opened. They weren't just your

(21:34):
regular bargain shoppers. There are a bunch of middle aged
women have been standing in the cold for five hours
for this doll and of course the new normal bargain
shoppers in the mix. Also. Fifteen minutes before open, we
started hearing this loud bang, so a few of us
went to see what's happening. They were ramming the door.
Two hundred cold people were trying to take down the

(21:56):
gate to the kingdom. Five minutes later, you heard the
l snap. They broke through the doors. Oh no, everybody
rushed in the store, though it was not open yet
and nobody was out their cash register. It didn't matter.
People thought it was okay to go in through the
door that popped off its hinges. Oh dear, I've never
seen anything like it. I've worked retail in total now
for almost ten years. First we had to call an

(22:17):
ambulance as there was one of our elderly customers, a
very nice old man who always made people smile. He
was near the front entrance, in the front line of
the battle of the bargains or barbarians. He fell to
the floor and got run over by countless people.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
This isn't even for stuff that you get for free.
This is for stuff that people still have to buy.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I know nobody stopped to help. He just got stepped
on it. I would have broken hip, broken libs and ribs,
and countless bruises and cuts after getting stepped on with
high heels. At the same time this was happening, I
headed over to the toy section where the three palaces
of these dolls were sitting. And what did I see?
A crazy woman swinging her cane violently claiming the whole

(22:56):
lot of them, screaming things like I've been here for
eight hours, I brought five thousand dollars and I'm getting
them all. If you want someone, you're going to buy
it from me. Sure she was okay, fair enough, she
was crazy and hit two employees along many customers. Our
security guard, Robin was there, though small, but she was built.
She was training martial arts, but she'd never know because

(23:16):
she wore baggy clothes. Robin went up to the front
of the crowd and just said, this is strike two.
I want you to leave now, or else I'm having
you removed. Of course, she screams out, bring it on.
You can't take a big mistake. So Robin did the
most unusual thing I've ever seen. She slowly walked up
to her, put her hands in her pockets, and threw

(23:38):
three or four bouncy balls on the floor. Crazy lady
was a little thrown off and looked at the balls.
Robin snapped the cane out of her hands while simultaneously
smacking her with it on her arm. She spun her around,
held her arms behind her back, no cuffs until the
cops showed up a minute later. The rest went pretty well.
We sold out of dollars in minutes, a limit of
one per customer.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I like the bunty ball idea. I might use that.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Pretty cool, Robin.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Oh, I get another short one from a deleted user.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Some of these are pretty old.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah. I was yeah, game stop, yeah, game stop, and
yeah stuff. I was a GameStop worker. When the why
the why did I almost just call it a why?
Why why? When the Week came out? You know, I
never got to play with the Week?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Never never never. Yeah, I haven't played on a on
a like, what's the other one? So many one PlayStation
I've never played on the PlayStation. Played Kart, there was around,
I played Nintendo. I was a young adult. I played Pong,
I play I play homescapes on my on my phone.

(24:54):
That's about it.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah, that's that's kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I played little I'm I'm at level six eight hundred.
Oh wow, home Escape. I think she made it to
what fifty me?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, Yawn was born Okay, I was a GameStop worker.
When we came out. The second we unlocked the doors,
it was a riot. People were fighting one another's swearing, crying,
just about everything. People are so we're so desperate. When
people manage to get one, somebody would throw the other
person to the ground and buy it. That sounds about right,
And I mean how they do that with iPhones too.

(25:25):
Maybe time a new iPhone comes out, everybody spats it out.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Just another slightly better piece of craft phone. I don't
get it. But anyway, someone punched the security guard in
the face because he thought he was a customer skipping
to the front of the line. He was just walking
in the door to start his shift. So, yeah, my
town has those kind of people.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
In it, which I knew what town that was. Oh,
Ferbie and the Toys are a story, and my mom
had a Ferbie. My mom had a Pherbi. Yeah, she
actually thought the thing learned that they don't learn people.
They are not AI. They tried to convince you that
they really not. I went to Toys Rest when the
original Ferby came out. I walked in the back doors
right before my shift when the doors were supposedly open

(26:06):
I supposed to be open, had people follow me in
and assault me trying to get a dumb Ferbie. Then,
when the doors finally did open, one parent pushed my
coworker to the ground and jumped on top of a
pile of people to get one from the display. She
ended up kicking some porchmuck in the head, grabbed a Ferbie,
stuffed it down her shirt, and tried to casually walk

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out and steal it. I wish they would have finished
that story.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Oh boy, this one is astounding to me. I did
read some of these before I posted. I was working
for a media play during Black Friday. They were going
out of business, so there were liquidation prices, no sale prices.
We had made a tower of MP three players that
were moderately priced and put them by the front door.

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I think they were twenty dollars each or something like that.
This was back when five hundred and twelve megabyte ones
would just started to be phased out. Boy, that is ancient,
but anyway, people start to line up outside the door
at four am. We don't even open until our normal
ten am time. At about eight am they start to
bang on the door. My manager explains that we won't
be open for another two hours, and things start to

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get rough outside. At ten am we open the doors.
Leaving the pack is an elderly woman who looked to
be about one hundred sporting a walker. She waddles into
the store, running in quardies with her walker and dives
for the MP three player pyramid we'd said, literally throwing

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herself into it with her arms out, frantically grabbing all
she can get her hands on. She hits the ground
hard and people start to flood the store. A few
of them step on her, meaning the normal retails zealous.
We are we just sat there and watched the flood
come in. Meanwhile, on the floor, the fossil that hit
the ground is suddenly clutching her chest. We're all looking

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at each other trying to figure out what to do,
so we try to help her. She help her up,
she falls to the ground. Cycle repeats two more times
until we finally realize it's time to call the paramedics.
During this entire endeavor, she's holding three MP three players
and absolutely refuses to let them go. My coworker calls
nine to one one and the paramedics rush over with

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a gurney. Moments later, they're loading her onto the stretcher
and she's moaning about Christmas presents while still clutching the
MP three players. The paramedrics determined that between the excitement
and throwing herself on the floor, the woman had triggered
a heart attack. Let me say that one more time.
The woman gave herself.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
A heart attack, dying for mplayers.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Thanks for your help with that absol. Well, now they
are sure. The paramedics wheel her out and get her
to the hospital. It wasn't a major one, but she
outright refused to drop the merchandise at any given time.
It went in the ambulance with her. My boss went
to visit her in the hospital later that day in uniform,
and her first words were, oh, my god, don't press charges.

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I promise I'll pay for it right now. The MP
three players were sitting on our night's stand next to
her bed. It had apparently taken the sedative to let
her to get to get.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Her to let go, she needs a heavy dose of Georgia.
Oh my goodness, Oh lordy. I work back of house
editory r us. I spent Black Friday taking a big
ticket item to the back where we just loaded them
onto the customer's car instead of trying to make our

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way to the front of the store.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Smart.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Apparently someone decided it was fine to wander into the
backstorage room and start opening boxes to find what they wanted.
Other customers saw this one jerk do it and decided
it was okay. They did it too. The other back
of house guys and I were busy wrestling with a
really obnoxious bed set, so when I made it to
the other side of our back storage I found about
ten people just taking cases off our base and opening them,

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then tossing them aside. If they didn't won it. They
claimed there was nothing indicating they couldn't come back there.
We have two signs on the swinging doors saying employees
only and warning only only authorized personnelity on this point.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
This one's great. I worked for six years of the
Johnny Rockets. I love Johnny Rocketts. I worked for six
years of Johnny Rockets in a mall.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I think the only time that they ever been to
Johnny Rockets was that the Auburn supermoll we did once.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, and if I recall, it was yummy. Yeah, they
had one. I think that one kent too by the
point we left, but I don't remember anymore. But yeah,
I was good and the service was fun. It was.
It was. It's one of those fifties diner for sixties
diner places reproductions. Anyway, I worked for six years of
Johnny Rockets in a mall as a server in management.
We didn't open early like the rest of the stores

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because we were a restaurant. Well, we don't serve breakfast.
We had people shake our gates screaming that they wanted food.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Really, it would be just me who four, I know.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
It would be just me and an opener getting the
chair set out. I pointed them towards the food court
and told them we don't serve breakfast. A lady spit
at me and said, I know you got bacon. We
do in a fridge waiting to be cooked.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
And put on a burger, but not for you, because
we reserve the right to confuse service to.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
No bacon for you.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Wow, I know you've got bacon.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I know you've got good job. People, So does ihop
go down the street and go to I Hop?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
When I worked in said this and folks, this is
why we don't do Black Friday shopping. When I worked
at a Sam Time, I'm actually making most of my
presents this year. When I worked at Sam's Club during
the madness one Black Friday morning, we caught a woman
stuffing the inside of her pants with frozen lobster tail.
She would unpack them and throw the trash and a

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stack of tires that were on display.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
Oh no, what should make you can't?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Just just no, just no, just no. I worked for
missus Field's Cookies in my local mall during Black Friday
back when I was in high school. Our manager got
called to a store in a different city because a
manager had severely hurt themselves melting chocolate. For the chocolate cookies.
I end up having to work for the majority of
the day with an equally lazy buddy of mine, slinging

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cookies and taking orders for cookie cases while the mall
was packed.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Cookie cakes, go.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Cookie cakes. I'm sorry, what did I don't matter what
I say? Orders for cookie cakes while the mall was packed.
Around four PM and about one six hundred dollars in sales,
a gentleman in a button down Missus Fields Cookies uniform
shirt comes to our counter telling us he had to
do a midday drop for us for whatever money we
had taken then that day. I let him in the back.

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He tinkers for second on the computer and ends up
taking our deposits. No, I think you know where this
is going. So now it's an hour before closing time.
My boss is now back to our location I was closed.
He starts going through our paperwork and money and realizes
we're about one thousand, six hundred dollars short. I explained
to him that mister so and so came down to
our location to do a midday drop. He told me

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mister so and so doesn't exist and calls the corporate office.
It turned out this guy had gotten over a dozen
Missus Fields in the area and robbed over ten thousand dollars.
They never figured out who it was I ended being
I ended up being fired over it with my buddy.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Why why would you fire They didn't know.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
We stole a giant cookie cake as compensation worth it?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, their cookies are men, They're okay. Why would they
get fired?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I mean, famous, a miss is a lot better.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Why. I don't understand why they got fired for being duped?
Did they fire every single employee that got duped? Because
that's not cool? Jerks. See if I ever eat Missus
fields away.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
About I don't think. And again I've eaten at every restaurant.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's saying. I buy that. Back In my
poor college day, when I worked at Walmart, we had
a fight breakout over a bike. This were thrown and
there was some blood everyone. Eventually one guy got a
hold of it, managed to get it away from the crowd,
and rode the bike out of the store to flee
his pursuers without paying.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
This is tragic. This one sucks. I would be so mad.
I think it was around Black Friday two thousand and
four and I was a cart pusher a Walmart. This
your particular year, Walmart offered a plasma TV at an
extremely low price and was the hottest deal of the year.
A man showed up the Tuesday before the big sale

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with the tent high schoolers generator TV and everything he
needed to brave the three nights he would be staying over.
He continuously talked about being first in line, and how
he was going to get the plasma TV, and how
he was hosting the next Super Bowl party. So this
was just going to be the best thing ever. Come
around Thursday night, I showed it to my ship and
he was still there in a jolly mood. Thankfully, he

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was about to be able to go home and sleep
in his own bed. The news came and he had
a short interview and explained what he was waiting for,
how he was able to get the time off, he
was a truck driver, and why he was so excited.
The line for the entrance wrapped around the whole front
of the door and about another three hundred yards or
so past the store of thousands of people waiting to
get in. At five am, the doors opened, The man

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and goes straight to the plasmas to see that they
were all gone. What happened? The garden center at the
Walmart opened up about ten seconds before the front doors,
and those that came the night before scooped up all.
This guy, who had been there since Tuesday afternoon was
dumbfounded and argued with management, but was stonewalled and told

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there was nothing to be done. That guy's Thanksgiving was
a bust for sure. Oh I don't know. Man. If
I was, If I was the manager of the Walmart and.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
I knew, I would have set up a GoFundMe to
get that guy a free TV.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Just I would have given him the deal, are we?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I mean seriously, I would have and there were only
fifteen I.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Would have taken the hit, given him the TV. It
would have It would have been that one, of course,
but it would have been I.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Mean, he was on the news. How did they not
know he was there? How did they not know he
was there? And they opened the stupid gardens? No, that's
not cool. I hate line cutters. Build the wall all right?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Speaking of which, killing me?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Speaking of which, I thought I would update the the capture. Yeah,
so I made this. Let me let's see here. Uh
why is it not showing?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
It is showing, so yeah, I'm a tiny bit evil. Anyways,
I I updated that for for this this season. So
if you'd like a copy of that, hit me up
can go from my digam, find us on the on
the socials, all the places, or you can skin shot
up from here.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
We have a few more. We have a few more.
This is from another now sadly obsolete store, online only.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Radio.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I worked a radio shack for a year in college.
During Black Friday, one of the sale items was a
ten dollars calculator marked down to five dollars.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I can't even imagine paying ten five dollars for a calculator.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Now, I know they hand them out. It's swag it
every They're on your phone, they're on your computer. I know.
Two sweet elderly women came into the store looking for them,
and I told them there's only one left in the display.
The shizz was on. It turned into a geriatric version
of Roller Derby without the skates over calculator. Yeah. The
one grandma who lost the race called the other one

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a ficking b arch as she was standing in the
checkout line gripping her five dollar prize, A fracking BArch,
A fracking BArch. I always imagine some little kid opening
presents on Christmas morning, getting his stupid five dollar calculator,
not really wanting it, and having no clue about the
backstory behind it, as his grandma, sipping her teeth, looks

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on with a triumphant gleam in.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Her eyes over a calculator.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Well five and dime we what they call it back then.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
But anyway, this one just says I've witnessed you people
fistfight over a blankety Curson toaster. Never was retail, but
I delivered to a lot of retail stores. He's a trucker.
Showed up with a delivery at a wally World around
eight am on Black Friday and couldn't even back into
the dock. It's like my rig is giving off in Aroma.
That attracts people. Turns out they had some ridiculous price

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on flatscreen TVs and had run out. The store manager
had told them there were more coming in the next
truck that morning, so naturally they saw me and thought
they'd be allowed to just grab them off the truck man.
Were they disappointed when they saw I had a trailer
full of brand new shopping cards.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
So beautiful?

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Oh oh that is that is? That is beautiful?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
All right? Ex best buy worker here, four Black Fridays
at the highest grossing store in the company gets you
a few wild tales. This one is quick. A guy
tried to shove a Panasonic Blu ray player into the
front of his Jesus. He was a rather large man.
But dude, it's a Blu ray player. Seriously.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Oh that is dated. That is dated and unsightly. Bulge
is nothing. Work security at Target for five plus years
for being a store in the rougher part of town.
I don't have too many horror stories. The funniest one
I like to tell is from a couple of years ago.
I was there doing crowd control. I would always talk

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to people in line, try to keep them entertained while
they're waiting in the cold. The first couple in line
had been there for about thirteen or fourteen hours. So
we opened the store and we have deals on all
sorts of electronics, toys, et cetera. They get in line
and have a shopping cart full of towels that we
had on sale for two dollars. That's it, just towels.
They were first in line outside and waited over half

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a day for two dollars towels. When I left after
my twelve hour ship, we still had shelves full of
these towels, along with tons more in the stock room.
I think I saw something about women fighting over towels
and maybe got a little bit a little bit ridiculous. Okay,

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that's the end of that one. But you found more.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
I found even more. You want to continue if you
want to brave the elements.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Uh, these ones are pretty quick. We can, we can,
we can complain, but we can, we can rapid fire. Okay,
I saw an elderly woman steel an ice cream maker
out of a man in a wheelchairs electric cart.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Let's skip the next one because it was on the
other article as well, that one as well. Okay, I
watched the woman number four. I watched the woman collapse
in hysterics into my mind arms because we didn't have
the exact model of corus she wanted.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
By the way, if he had on over a counterculture
weather dot com. All of our leans are archived, of course,
available for your perusal, just in case you think we're
making these things up. A lady called nine one one
because we wouldn't price match with best Buy. The police
came and arrested her for misusing the emergencies oh shopping

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down to seven because ros and lobster tails.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
One of our male customers hit another male customer upside
the head of the crockpot. What were they fighting over
the crockpot? Both customers had been tried down to the
store by police.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
They tore down our mall's doors. Again.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
There was a sale one dollar for towels or something.
This guy jumped into the towel bin and literally growled
at anyone who tried to get a towel and claimed
them all, what is it with the towels? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Oh beanie babies. Baby. They would test the beanie babies
from a bin. I want to say that again. They
would tut the beanie babies from a bin on a table.
People were vultures up to these things. That was about
nine and an old lady grabbed a cat out of
my hand. I stopped on her foot and stole it back.
I was so proud.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
People had been lining up for at least ten hours.
We had tons of things on sale. Most people were
trying to score deals on fantasy electronics except for the
first person in line. Hope that person waited all that
time for the buy one, get one free candles.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
In eight.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I worked one Black Friday at the Children's Place and
I saw two ladies get in a physical fight about
size two tea jeans. It was the last pair and
they were like six dollars.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I worked in customer service at the grocery store, and
once had a customer of attorney fully eaten rotisserie chicken
saying they were bringing it back because it was bloody.
Ew one look told me and anyone else with eyes
that the blood was strawberry jam. My manager still made
me issue the refund with a smile, because the customer
is always right.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
I don't think that's a Black Friday story. My first
Black Friday, I was working a Walmart. Oh nope, we
read that one. I worked in the women's shoot department
in Bloomingdale's. You'd think that would be a little harder
peggy lifting crowd. On one occasion, after I had placed
a pair of beautiful Ferragamo flats at a woman's feet,
she accused me of being racist with how I treated her.

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She created a huge scene shouting that I was discriminating
against her for how I took the shoes out of
the box. It made absolutely no sense. Twenty minutes later,
a coworker told me that the woman created that entire
scene because she wanted a discount on those shoes and
it didn't work. She got thrown out. Ferragamos are beautiful,
but they aren't worth all of that all right, And

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there's lots more on Reddit, folks that I thought it
would just be fun to go over some of those crazy,
crazy things, folks. I just absolutely will never, ever, ever,
ever ever do that to myself.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I used to drive by. I mean I used to
work in the area, but I drove by a target
just once on Black Friday to laugh. I don't even
because I knew sanity, I don't even believe.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I always make it a point on Thanksgiving that I
have everything I need and I don't have to leave
the house again until Saturday or Sunday, which is exactly
what we just did.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I wouldn't have gone yesterday, but there were some things
we absolutely needed to get. The cat food, yeah, Maxie
and Frankie and Fritzie.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Time specific. So yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
So speaking of retailers.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah, things are about to get a lot better at
wally World. This.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I don't want to discuss what your opinion on an
aspect of this. Okay, we're done, all right, but do
you want I hit it? Jim? Here we go, all right.
Under pressure from Robbie Starbuck, who wrote The.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
New York God bless Robbie Starbuck.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Blessed him they should name a coffee chain after him.
Oh hey, a good idea for The New York Times
called an anti DEI agitator, the big company's fear most.
That means he's good. Walmart is dialing back its DEI
programy diversity, equity and inclusion for those of youve been
living under a.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Rock, which just means rampant racism.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah. Because Walmart is the nation's number one retailer and
the largest private employer in the country with one point
six million employees, it's about face on DEI has important
implications for all retailers and corporations. Companies need to listen
to our movements. Starbuck declared, we are powerful and growing
every single day. Will not stop until we have eliminated

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wokeness from corporate America, especially airlines. Yeah, and he added,
we do have our eyes on Amazon and Target. There's
already the Target's going to do it as well.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
They're targeting Amazon and amazoning Target.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Announcing the changes on X thank you for not saying
formally Twitter. We all if once again living on the rock,
We don't know that X's was Twitter.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
It will always be Twitter in my heart.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, I will always be exce on my brain because
that's what they call it. Yeah, Starbucks said, Walmart will
close the company's racial equity center, no longer participate in
the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index review supplier diversity
programs that no company gets preferential treatment based on RACEY
just continue using terms such as DEI and LATINX.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
By the way, Latinos despise the Latins. Nonsense, white people,
stop it, stop it, you look stupid, and.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Racial quality and racial I went through about an hour
and didn't say blah blah until now I'm doing better blah,
and racial equity training programs. In addition, Walmart will remove
any items sold that may have inappropriate transsectional content for children, Yes,
such as chest binders for teens, Yes, books encouraging transition.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Amen, Praise Jesus.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
It will also stop funding events that could expose children
to sexually inappropriate content, such as Drag Queen's Story Hours
or Pride events.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I don't know why they why I don't.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Walmart confirmed these changes with Bloomberg and Associated Press. However,
it is posted no place.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
But the liberals are real good to boy good Walmart now,
which is going to make it infinitely better. Shorter lines
because I'm sure all the people wrestling each other to
a ground over plasma TV or are Trump voters.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
That some of them are. Let's not kid each other. However,
it posted no press release on his website. Responded to
the author's request for cost.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Don't read that.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Okay, So I want to ask you something. I mean,
we could keep going, but you know we basically the
DEI movement seems to be crumbling before our very eyes.
I want to ask you something, Okay. Do you think that,
in the wake of the George Floyd incident, I'm just
going to call it an incident. You call it what
you want, overdose, okay, that these companies adopted DEI just

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to look good and now that Trump is president and
or Trump is going to be. He's not president now,
but in a month and a half president of the
United States. Was this all just posing or did they
have a sincere desire to make to make their company
more socially responsible?

Speaker 3 (48:42):
This is straight out of rules sporadicals. This was a
socialist movement. It started long before George Floyd. George Floyd
was just their catalyst, No, not even a catalyst. He
was there there. I don't have the exact word for it,
but he was like their poster child.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
He was.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
He was a reason because they had, you know, other
ones up till Floyd. He was just the first one
that died on camera. Do you think about the race
riots when what's his name was beaten in La? I
can't remember his name?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Now?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Why can I not remember his name? Everybody knows his
name except Jim who's looking at me like I'm crazy.
And the guy that was beaten by the cops and
Rodney King he lived right, Oh yeah, I don't think he.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Was a live anymore, but he did live right.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I mean it started way back then because what they
would do is they would grab an incident and granted,
nobody deserves to be beaten, you know, as like what
happened there. But he also wasn't you know this poor
innocent cherub that was, you know, stealing bread for his
starving child. You know, the guy was I'm not going

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to use the term he deserved it, but the guy
was not the sweet, beautiful, innocent cherub. And George Floyd
is was a druggy felon and the world is a
better place without him in it. There I said it
kill me, and please don't the thing is he did
not have a knee to his neck at any time ever,

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So that was a complete and total lie. So the
entire BLM, the riots that they killed over thirty five
of their own people, rioting supposedly in the name of
this felon who, this thug who died of an overdose
because he was swallowing his drugs every time he was

(50:38):
known that, every time you know, he would get arrested,
he'd start screaming for his mummy and saying he couldn't breathe.
That was just his thing. All of that was withheld.
So they used this guy, this hideously ugly man inside
and out. But he was ugly inside and out, and

(50:59):
what was in sight of him made him even uglier.
They used him. That is their hero, that is their murder.
That is who they raise up him and the likes
of Jesse Smollette, you know, who's actually become a verb
for faking things. And the thing is, it's by design,

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it's carefully calculated. I bet you ninety nine point nine
percent of the BLM rioters not only weren't even black,
but didn't even know what they supposedly were writing about.
Here's the thing, a social movement, And you can go
back all the way to you know, Gandhi, you can

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look at Martin Luther King. There wasn't looting, okay, there
wasn't people murdering each other in the streets. There wasn't
broken windows. No, when you were talking about social unrest
and you were talking about fighting for a cause that
you actually give a crap about, you are not going

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to destroy your own neighborhoods, your own cities. You're not
going to kill each other in the streets. This was
not a social movement that anybody gave a rip about,
much less even understood. These were people who wanted free nikes.
These are people who wanted free iPhones. These these were

(52:25):
the lowest form of humanity. And it has nothing to
do with race, because a big chunk of these people
were white. You know, I don't think there was any
Hispanics involved, the honest, but they they dangled this this sugary,

(52:45):
sugary doughnut. Wasn't even a carrot because it wasn't anything
good for them. And these people were willing to go
into absolute mob mode and destroy their own communities and
still vote for the people who led them to do that.
Now that is power. That is power to to talk

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the very people who think that they are trying to
make change for their own, to make better lives for themselves,
who feel like they've been you know, oppressed or repressed
or suppressed or injected, infected in the whole thing, and
in any way to turn on themselves. I mean, this

(53:34):
is like an episode of Star Trek where some mind
altering god type creature is able to, like con is
able to we were just talking about that earlier, is
able to get you to turn you. You stick a
worm in their brain and you're willing to turn a
gun to your own head. That is what they are

(53:54):
doing to these people who aren't oppressed, who can succeed
if they so choose. But if you constantly tell a
black man you are less than I am, I am
better than you, you will never succeed. And the only

(54:14):
way you can succeed is if I give you some
special concession. Well, how are you going to feel? There's
one of two ways. You're either going to feel completely
defeated and give up, which a lot of them have done,
or you're gonna say, screw you, white jerk, and you
know I'm gonna take what's mine. I don't blame them.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
So basically you're saying that this was mostly posing and
with Boeing.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
And oh the Dee, the Dei, nonsensus a bunch and
by the way, tractor supply really really really tractor supply. No,
what happened is you got these gigantic zurels funded. I
know it sounds tenfoil hat one whatever, but follow the money.

(55:02):
And these companies were basically told and they're trying to
do the same thing with carbon units as well. They're
trying to make it so that you have to, you know,
do this whole thing where oh, my company only uses
so many carbon credits. Well, they're basically like the Catholic one.
Are those things called napologetics, the indulgences where you could

(55:24):
go out and you could bang your neighbor's wife and
you could drink all the wine you wanted. But then
you could just go buy an indulgence and say, oh
and now I'm forgiven of all those sins. Yeah, that's
basically what they're doing with these stupid carbon credits. I
can go out there and I can make all the
black smog and nastiness as I possibly want, but some
other little guy has to pay for it, because I

(55:45):
can buy these credits and and you know, folks who
don't need them can sell them. So it's like here,
I am, you know, a tutor. Well, I don't use
I don't use carbon. You know, I'm over here with
like I.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Mean, just whatever electricity.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yeah, yes, yeah, my electricity is generated from windmills. So
like I'm home free. And so I you know, I
get one or two carbon credits and I can sell
them to you know, Megacorp, who buys them from all
of us. And they're still polluting exactly as much as
they did before, but now they can feel better about it.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
And they can make and they can put themselves on
the back.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
And it doesn't it didn't change anything. I mean, all
of these these these you know, everybody had a big
old fit of Trump backing out of some of these,
like the Paris Accords and whatnot. Well, yeah, because we
were the only ones doing anything and we were suffering
greatly for that. Meanwhile, China is like polluting the entire
world twelve times over more than anybody else.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I think.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Yeah, we don't even the United States doesn't even make
the top ten. We don't even make the top ten,
but we're the ones doing the most, okay, and I
you know, I'm fine, let's be green, let's do that,
let's be as clean as we can. You don't do
that in such a way that you make it impossible
for people to survive. And that's what was happening. I

(57:08):
mean with goo go look at California in a couple
of years. You know, when they have this mandate for
all cars must be electric, follow the money first of all.
And I'm sorry, mister musk, I love you to pieces.
Electric cars are not at the place that they need
to be to solve all the problems that you want

(57:28):
them to solve with Maybe we'll see, I mean, no,
things are going pretty fast, it might even be within
the next two three years. But right now forcing people
to get them when the batteries and the parts for
those cars have a much much like infinitely huger carbon
footprint than a regular car does, and all of those

(57:51):
parts have to be bought from China, it's ridiculous. You're
not saving the planet, okay, preas drivers love you to pieces,
You're not saving the planet. You're actually making it worse.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
It's more excess.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Yeah, and and it reminds It reminds me of the
story that a lot of motivational speakers use, and this
is kind this is where I'm going to leave it.
It reminds me of the story of a lot of
emotional a lot of motivational uh speakers use my background,
So that is where I'm gonna frum. The story is
about a man who comes upon a crystalist and there

(58:27):
is a soon to be butterfly that is struggling to
get through, and he feels sorry for it because it
looks like it's such a chore and it's taking it
so long, and and uh, there's other versions where it
said we'd trying to get out of an egg blah blah.
So he helps it by, you know, taking a pair
of scissors and ever so carefully snipping it open and

(58:49):
pulling it apart so that he can set the butterfly free.
Because it was struggling so hard to get out, he
didn't think he was going to make it, and he,
you know, his part was in the right place, and
he wanted to do the right thing, and he felt
he was helping. Well, it turns out that without that struggle,
the blood vessels in the wings of the butterfly cannot
develop to the point where the butterfly can ever actually

(59:13):
why so what he did is he murdered that butterfly.
He murdered the butterfly, he disabled it. And that is
what they're doing right now. Yes, things have happened in
the past that had nothing to do with my ginger,
blue eyed ass, because I was brought over as a

(59:34):
slave too. Mice ancestors were thing is I wasn't I me,
Melanie Hope, the person speaking to you right now, I
was never a slave. Jesse Smollett was never a slave.
Nobody who was living today, I'm pretty sure, because I
think the very last one died a couple of years ago,
was a slave. In this country, we ended it. If

(59:56):
you care about slavery and you're not just posy with
your little dei bs chardonay drinking white what do they
call them, awfls, affluent white liberal women. They're called awfls. Okay,
if you really give a flying fish's patuity about slavery

(01:00:19):
and it now it is going on more than it
ever has in the history of the planet right now.
And do you know where, Yeah, where where it's happening
the most right now? Is children at our southern border
because you want it to be open. So don't come
at me and tell me I'm this tinfoil heat wearing

(01:00:42):
conspiracy theorist, Nazi supporting blah blah bs bs crap because
I supported somebody who wants to close those borders and say, look,
stop sending your children here, stop selling your children. The
current administration, and I'm not even gonna call it the

(01:01:04):
Biden administration because he doesn't even know where he is.
The guy has not been the president. We do not
have a president right now. Well, we have one, he's
just not officially in office. Yet he's actually getting more
done at mar alac Did you know this is actually
a little history thing. I need to look this up
and make sure this is true. But the woman who
built mar A Lago had meant for it to be

(01:01:26):
another nation's capital in Florida is meant to be another
White House, and that's literally what it's being used for
right now. Good, So I'll have to look that up
and see that's true. I've been seeing that floating around,
so fact check me, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
And I did want to say before we move on
to the next set, one of the aspects of this
interview that I did with doctor Tony, and I hope
you do listen to it, is we both agreed that
we can't do a damn thing about what my grandpa
might have done to somebody else.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
The only thing we can have been done to us.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Yeah. What we both agreed on was we have a
responsibility if I do or say something that could reasonably
be considered racist, I want to be told so I
can do the right thing, make the apologies, make the changes.
But sitting here blaming me for something that and I'm adopted,

(01:02:27):
I have no idea what my my background is. Honestly,
but let's say my grandpa owned a slave or a
great grandpa. Let's let's face it. What Kamala yeah or whatever? Yeah,
I like her. I want to know about it. I'll
apologize no for anything I personally did not not what. No.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
And that's the thing you and I are going to
disagree on this. If I say something that you take
as racist and I didn't intend it, screw you. I
didn't intend it. Do not take offense. I did not
offer it. Okay, taking something that was not offered as
stealing stealing is rude. Miss me with that garbage now
if I could, if I mean to offend you, oh,
I will offend you, and it will be obvious, and

(01:03:09):
I will mean it. Okay, But if I say something stupid,
now it is fun every now and then because and
I actually teach classes in this There are circle certain
certain colloquialisms that we use, like you know, the peanut
gallery or or the other several of them. I go
through them that we don't know. Okay, some of them

(01:03:29):
have been grandfathered in. That's one of them. Grandfathered in.
That is actually a term that is based in racism.
We don't think of it that way anymore. Just like
I grew up, thongs were shoes, and I still sometimes
accidentally say, we didn't even have the term flip flops.

(01:03:50):
Nobody wore underwear that went up there. But we didn't
think about that because you okay, and thongs were use
in Africa. Thongs are you know, straps of leather that
you could use for all kinds of different things. That's
where the term comes from. A thong is a strip

(01:04:10):
of leather that usually goes between something or you use.
You can use it to make an axe, you can
use it to make shoes. You can use it for
all kinds of different things. And you know so that
growing up, thongs were shoes. Now I say, oh, you know,
I left my thongs at home. They're thinking I'm talking
about underwear. Well I don't. Now should I be offended

(01:04:32):
that they think I'm thinking of underwear? Or should they
be offended that I use the wrong term? But nobody cares,
you know, and so, but that's a benign example. But
let's talk about I don't even want to go down
the path of the N word. I don't even want
to go down that path because that is one of
those really and as long as I live, I will

(01:04:55):
never understoodstand why And yes, I'm going to say this,
and you can come at me why low class black
people think it is okay to use that word on themselves.
I have a lot of black friends with degrees who
are highly intelligent. A couple of them are members of MENSA.

(01:05:16):
They don't use that word. They have no desire to
use that word, and they would be absolutely and understandably
offended if I were to use that word. I don't
want to use that word, but I also don't want
you calling me a cracker. And I certainly don't want
you calling me a Nazi, because I don't know anything
about Nazi. Nazi Amazon is not. I don't call people

(01:05:39):
words you don't mean or right, which means don't call
each other those words. I would I don't. I don't
like the practice of women calling each other whoores and
thinking that that's an affectionate term. No words have mem

(01:06:01):
and if you intend that meaning towards somebody that you
care about, then you're just nasty. But if I say
something that you take offense at, like oh, golly, I
miss gender your puppy dog or something, I don't get.
People call Sadie he all the time. She's a good
looking dog. But I mean, you can't tell by looking
at a dog and a boy or girl you don't know.

(01:06:22):
You have to turn them over. And my brother would say,
look under its pause, look at the bottom of the pause,
and that's how you know. Yeah. I don't get all
offended and you know, as the kids would say, but
hurt when somebody calls her he, I just say, oh,
her name is Sadie. That's it. She doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I've had calls over the phonee it sounds like a
man says surge. Well, actually, it's Mamma's I say, Oh,
I didn't mean to offend, and just roll on because
that's what life does, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Right, And I've been called sir before and I do
not have a man's voice, even if even if like
N's local man, you know it, just sometimes things happen. Now,
if somebody were to come up to me and try
to insult me by calling me you know names, and
they meant it, And that's the thing we have forgotten intention.

(01:07:13):
That we have forgotten intention, and that is where our
society is completely crumbled. And that's where the stupid DEI
nonsense really really falls apart. We cannot achieve equity. The
only way you can achieve equity is to take away
things from people who earned it, right, and that's what

(01:07:34):
DEI stands for, didn't earn it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Oh and I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Would drop my mic if it wasn't on a stand.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
So we need to move on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
We do need to move on. And we have some fun.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Stories, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I like it when we disagree but can still discuss it.
And I think the world needs more of that. And oh,
I'm so excited we are going to have a guest
on who is an author. I'm not going to reveal
her name or anything because it's not officially set in stone.
But she wrote a book about how we can learn
to get along again, so I believe I think we
could really use that. So I'm looking really really forward

(01:08:15):
to that. Her book is on the way I we
By the way, if you are interested in being a
guest here at Counterculturalized, head on over to our website
Counterculturalize It can and there is a place where you
can fill out a form to be a guest on
our show. Now, as we were just discussing, we are
totally open to having guests that we disagree with as

(01:08:37):
long as they're kind. And that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
We're looking kind and civil.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Yeah, and and even he was a sweet man. Yeah,
it was total l I'd had to get I had
to get these two boys set up because neither one
of them know how.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
To use the computer, Like, hey, how about those raiders?

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
I have no idea what they were talking about. Once
we got them going, no, it sounds like it. Why
I have to edit the I have to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Edit for just a moment.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Pole.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I have a new podcast coming called Fourth in the Fire. Okay, yeah,
well listen to both. But for our inaugural our inaugural
podcast of Fourth in the Fire. I am looking for
people who have had God rescue them out of their situations,

(01:09:26):
or we're in bad situations and you know, through faithful
service to God the situation was resolved. Anything, anything where
you have a chance to witness like that. I'd love
to have you on. You can go ahead and reach
us at counterculturalwise dot com for now because we haven't
set everything up yet, but I hope to launch this

(01:09:49):
no later than around my birthday mid January.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Okay, for reals, this time, he's putting that out there, folks,
so we have to keep him accountable. Please do In fact,
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
In worst case scenario, we've already recorded an interview with myself,
so I did mean myself, Yeah, incorrectly, I'm sorry, an
interview with me, Melanie interviewed me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Let me just put this out there, folks. Stop using
the term myself of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
I myself wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Yes, yes, that was that was That was zero point
one percent. Hit me up for more grammar. Nazi. That's
the type of Nazi. No hanging jeron for you. Okay, hey,
what do you say we head into what you know

(01:10:43):
happens to be my favorite part of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Counterculture Wise is Proud to present news of the weird
and wonderful. Here are your hosts, Melanie Hope and Jim Monis.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
I need to shave your head so you look like
that again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
We're going to do that tonight before we go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
He's getting he looks right now. He looks like a
giant grace.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
I used to like a.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Homeless guy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
This guy, I look like Nick Nolty and down and
out in Beverly Hills. I do, I know, I do.
I'm not as good looking.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Well, and you know you've got it like a twelve head.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Yes, I do a forehead, but three times the size
of a forehead through math. Yeah, this is one of
my favorite parts of the show too, because of the introduction.
I love my cats and dogs and stuff. Yes, okay,
this is funny.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Okay, I think it's my turn, even though I just
did like all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
The talking just now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
This is funny, all right. I don't know I'm saying. Well,
I get the greens in and then get this every
we go, Dyang and the place and everything's gonna get
set up. Okay, police thought a shoe thief was on
the loose at a kindergarten in southwest Japan and tell
a si hearty camera cut the furry culprit in action.

(01:12:04):
A weasel just hello, weasel? Okay. A weasel with a
tiny shoe in its mouth was spotted on the video
footage after police installed three cameras in the school. In
the prepecature of a fukioka a prefecture. Is that like
a state. It's kind of like, uh, county or you

(01:12:29):
can't see him use his hands to like just just
shape it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
It's yeah, it's like a county, immunipay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
It's great. It turned out not to be a human being.
Deputy police told that I don't know why I rolled
my rs. Do Japanese people roll their ours only.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
If they're trying to imitate Russians?

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Okay, so here act you've been to Japan, you read it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Deputy police chief Heroaki Inada.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Told the Associated Press Sunday. I can read that part.
Teachers and parents had feared it could be a disturbed
person with a shoe fetish.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
I think it's just a disturbed weasels.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Yeah, and so this was the video footage there. Japanese
customers take their shoes off before entering home. I'm sorry.
Japanese customarily take their shoes off before entering homes. The
vanished shoes were all slip ons. The children wore indoors,
stored in cubby holes near the door. Weasels are known
to stash items, and people who keep weasels yeah and

(01:13:28):
are cat fringy who keep weasels as pets give them
two toys so they can hide them. The weasel scattered
shoes around and took fifteen of them before police were called.
What are police gonna do with the weasel? Six more
were taken the following day. The weasel return November eleven
to steel one more shoe. Camera footage revealed that the

(01:13:48):
weasel emerged from behind a wall and approaching cubby holes
full of children's shoes. The twitter then races away with
a white shoe in its mouth. It's thought the weasel
may have been using the shoes to line its nest
in preparation for winter hibernation. Interesting, the shoelfing weasel only
took the white indoor shoes made of canvas, likely because

(01:14:09):
they're like to carry. We were so relieved go show
Kromodo and kindergarten director oh My goodness what he said
sold Japanese broadcasters. The children got a good laugh when
they saw the weasel in the video. Although the stolen
shoes were never found, the remaining shoes are now safe
that think kindergarten with nets installed over the cubby holes.

(01:14:31):
The weasel, which is believed to be wild, it's still
on the loose. Believe that the incident was not caused
by a human, but this is the first case of
its kind, so they just have weld weasels. Ye say,
well weasels don wild.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Weasels three times fast. Okay, So we've are about black Friday.
But we're going to talk about another color of Friday
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Fortunately, fortunately you're the when you get stuck. Ready, now,
if you go, what color Friday are we talking about, Jim, We.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Are talking about the following. Plumbers in the United States.
Now this is from before Thanksgiving, so work with me here.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Plumbers in the United States are preparing for brown Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Which makes sense because you know, you eat all the
stuff in the stuff brown and then brown comes down
and the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Brown come down. Yo. The busiest day of the year
for their profession, and one analysis suggests Los Angeles is
likely to be the most clogged city.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Oh, we're using the toilets.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Finally, when Brown Friday, the country's plumbers refer to the
day after thanks as Brown Friday as consistently the busiest
day of the year, averaging fifty more calls in the
average Friday. Roto ruters said the main culprits are clogs
in kitchen sinks, toilets, and garbage disposals. An analysized analysized

(01:15:53):
love that rented lips they are not my own analysis
by yelped patterns of plumbing related online data and found
searches for emergency plumbing surged by sixty five percent during
Brown Friday and twenty twenty three, compared to searches from
two weeks Pride to Thanksgiving and data from two weeks

(01:16:14):
after the holiday. Yelp dubbed Los Angeles to be the
clauded the capital of the United States. Oh, that is
not something you want to be labeled with.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
That's been labeled a lot of things, but that's probably
the nicest with.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Plumbing related search searches. I really haven't been drinking, at
least not much with plumbing related not the right things anyway.
Surging by seventy three percent on Brown Friday, followed by
Miami with an increase of thirty seven percent.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
We have a full docative of Florida, man, but we
just haven't had time to do it, so that was
coming up night tonight. Also, we're not We're not gonna
have enough, so many things to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Nashville is next with a search increase of twenty six percent,
followed by Sacramento with a twenty four percent increase, and
Baltimore with a search spike of twenty three percent. Roto
Ruter offered some advice for avoiding Thanksgiving weekend plumbing catastrophes,
including keeping fats and cooking oils away from the sink,

(01:17:13):
wiping grease out of pots and pans, and the paper
towel before washing them. I tell all the time, I know,
and sometimes I do it, and not putting potential clog
causing foods such as poultry skins, celery, fruit, and potato
peels down the garbage. What's a garbage disposal?

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
What's abasal? What's a dishwasher? What's a flushing toilettuise dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Contribute to the get out of this place? We ever,
do we.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Need to come into this central. Yeah. First of all,
poultry skins, honey, No, you fry them. That is your treat.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
You yump them, you feed them to the dog. If
you don't want.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Them, get them to the dog. You fry them into
the night, said Crispy. And there's own yummi, And I
like them. And that is my treat for when I
make an entire thing meal at the end of the day,
everybody else is slogging down, you know, sweets and whatnot.
I fry the skins. That's my tree. Okay. Second of
all celery, potato, peels, onions.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
It also shouldn't be put in your face, throw it away,
don't buy it. All it is is just a vessel
for cream cheese, thank you, and dip and okay. And
she looks really really hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
It was good in the stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
It just gets between the teefs okay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
And and what you do with your odds and ends,
like your your your garlic and onion skins, your peels,
your celery, all of that stuff. You put it in
a bag. And then once you're done deep booming the turkey,
you put all the turkey bombs in a bag and
you freeze it and then next time you need broth,
you just dump everything out of the bag and you

(01:18:55):
have any nice boil it all, well it all day long.
You have the most amazing broth. It's insane. So I've
got pork bones with all their little pieces of I
think it was an atomic shrimp. On YouTube, he calls
them his vegetabones. And yeah, it makes fantastic broth. And
if you have just vegetable odds and ends, you toss

(01:19:16):
it into a pot of water and boil it until
you know. Then you strain it and then you throw
it away or put in your compost.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
So let me ask you something, because we're about to
go into the Chinese counterpart of one of our most
beloved American restaurant chains, and I'm wondering if you would
indulge in this seriously. Okay, well, let's we'll tell our
audience about this is my turn.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Okay, let's do this. Let's do this. Okay, it doesn't
have any pictures. So China's Pizza Hut franchise is serving
customers deep fried frogs on top of their pies. I
want it on a pizza. I have had thought. David Hanky,

(01:20:04):
a global food trend watcher industry consultant posted on x
to atleastart cooking them this time, unveiling a picture of
the specialized pizza that's supposedly being offered for a limited
time Do.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
You even have pizza huts luft here?

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Oh yeah, okay, alongside an advertisement for the creation hank
he wrote per at Teconomic Global Navigator in proof that
other countries cultures prefer different types of proteins, Pizza Hut
is offering a pizza top with a frog for a
limited time offer in China, and frog is trending, So
who is your Okay? The eyeballs are hilarious, that is

(01:20:39):
absolutely but it makes it look like eyeballs personal pizza
pretty well well and obviously didn't skip legg day ooks
pretty good. The thick crust pizza features a red sauce
bass under a bed of parsley. It looks like Cilancho

(01:21:01):
to me, with a whole fried bullfrog on top. Two
halves of hard boiled eggs with black olives appear as
the eyes of the frog. You told me their eyes.
It is unclear how long Chinese Pizza Hut will be
offering the protein packed pizza and the company does not
specify on their website either. But if they didn't like

(01:21:23):
clean it out or nothing, it's just like the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
I don't know. I've never seen a whole frog prepared
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Yeah, it's unclear how long Chinese pizza hud okay off.
According to Korean news outlet, the pizza has been launched
in collaboration with Dungeons and Dragons and is named Goblin Pizza,
after one of the popular game's characters. And this is
what it looks like. They shut it and read it. Yeah,

(01:21:50):
it's if it's real, it's funny looking. This pizza is
a pehlony. Oh no, here's what the real one looks like. Okay,
so here's what they say it's supposed to look like,
and here's what it actually looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Yeah, it doesn't look quite so good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
This pizza is a felony, one person commented on the post,
while another asked why ruin a pizza like that. A third,
more sympathetic person added, I would not be mad if
the pizza underneath the frog was passable. Another joke. You
can rivet this right into the garbage. Yeah, that pizza
looks infinitely better than that pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
And what's different from the McDonald's. Yeah on the commercial
and you, oh my god, I have to have one
of those. You go there and you get this. Yeah,
sloppy yet nasty as pretty?

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
No, that is that is nasty. One intrigued foody suggested,
yo fried frog legs are so good. Maybe shred the
frog leg meat next time and add it to the pizza.
That would be pretty good. That's where I That's where
where I went. I am more upset about the olives.
Person said Pizza Huad isn't the fast food chain in

(01:23:01):
Asia that's put controversial pairings on its menu. I don't
usually do this, but I just want to find out
what some of these are. And twenty twenty, McDonald's locations
in China added a sandwich made with two slices of
spam and an oriole crumb.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Toppy will look on Melanie's faces priceless.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
And in twenty twenty two, Domino's Pizza Japan introduced Crispy
Fish and Chip, a pizza pizza and they might say
fish and chip that came with fresh fish and potato slices,
basil tartar and tomato sauce and womb slices. That actually
sounds pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Actually, that sounds yummy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Yeah, that's safe spam and oreo. Yeah, and do you
ever see if this is still live on Reddit?

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Yeah, there's the that's nasty look and I'm sorry. Yeah,
the one they showed on their wet on Pizza Huts
website was far far more.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Yeah, that one. That one, well, I wouldn't call it,
but it's definitely prettier. Yeah, and you know what the
they say it's parsley, it's actually to mean it. What
the heck? What are those like? And you mixed spinach pieces?
I'm not sure what that is pizzas. I'm fine with frog,
but bones do not belong on pizza. Ever seen chicken

(01:24:19):
wings on pizza? No? Yeah, I agree? Bones no no, no, yeah,
but not not the wings like the actual bones. Yeah,
that makes no sense at all.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Yeah. Anyway, so we're going from more weird than wonderful
the more wonderful than weird. Now, one thing we now
every Thanksgiving, it is the law that we either listen
to the song or watch the movie Alice's Restaurant. We
also always watch Ah Charlie Brown Thanksgiving, where Peppermint Patty

(01:24:52):
shows us she's a total We will use that one.
We did not watch the world famous w k RAP episode.
God is My Witness. I thought turkeys could.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
I think that should be a tradition that we add.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
I think we'll add that starting next year. This is
also a story of dropping turkeys, although it's not It's
not like live turkeys flying into each other and terrorizing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Them because domestic turkeys can't fly, right. Yeah, I think
there was one like this. I think the w k
RP episode was based on a real story and it
wasn't live turkeys. It was frozen. It was I think
I think somebody died if I recall, all right, but
this happier.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Ending mhm, So we got this has happened in Alaska.
You know, it gets pretty remote out there in places.
So this is from a place called Squintina, Alaska. I
hope I pronounced that properly. If if there's any Squintians listening.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Yeah, there's not enough bells in your city, name put
some more bells in there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yeah. A woman is delivering thanksgiving turkeys to her neighbors
and others in the West to sit in the valley
in a unique way. For the last three years, esther Sanderland,
has been loading frozen turkeys onto her plane to drop
them off to the Alaskans who live off the road system.
I was visiting our newest now by the way, Melanie,
and I would never live somewhere like this. We live
remote enough in tex.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
We live yeah, okay. The good news is though, that
we could live that remote and we'd get screaming fast
internet as we do now. Thank you, mister Musk.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
You know, they really ought to advertise as much as
we promote.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
We'll take money, Musk, come on you on cough up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
The last three years, she's been loading other texts. Okay,
I mean the Alaskans. I was visiting our newest neighbor
and they were talking about splitting a squirrel three ways
for dinner. They Rockie and how that didn't really go
very well to go very far inland.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Our squirrels, do you have quite a bit of meat
on them?

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Or our squirrels are downright meedy? They would make a
tasty treat. And I just had a thought of that moment.
You know what, I'm going to air drop them a
turkey for Thanksgiving because I recently rebuilt my first airplane
with my dad and I can do that really easily.
During freeze up, you can't really get around, so you
can't travel out there, but you can fly as long
as you don't land. She got the idea from her

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time growing up in Squintina. We had a friend the
neighborhood air dropped turkeys to my family and to other
families in the neighborhood. She said, that was just such
a huge impact on my life and others in the community.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
So they would have either drones or that kind of
service set up already.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
If it's that remote there might not be worth the investment.
She hopes to return this mission into a nonprofit so
she can reach more people across Alaska. My vision with
this is to reach farther parts of Alaska because there
are so many families that live off the grid, she said.
This year she's dropping about thirty forty turkeys, all in

(01:28:01):
the effort to ensure no one has forgotten, not even
those living off the road system. If you live off
the grid, I want turkey a little bit late for
that because the past Thanksgiving, but you can contact I'm
going to check out the spacebook page page for the
for any future turkey drops in your neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
But now I have a question for you. It's called
turkey bomb. That's hilarious. If you live off the grid,
that's by choice, right, So somebody bombing you with a turkey,
isn't that trying to get you back on the grid?
Can you resent that?

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
I wouldn't resent it. I thought I would think it
was unless you know, they didn't warn us, and you know,
I'm out there chopping a tree in all this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
All of a sudden, I grew up out in brul Alaska,
where there's no deliberation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
I thought it was really really I missed it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Say it again.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I don't know if I can remember it. It was
something about okay, bonk me on the bean with a
butter ball.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
No, you know what butterballs are being recalled, recalled the butterballs.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
I do to eat the butterball right now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
She's very fashionable too. She's really super pretty. She's very pretty,
crazy pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
So there she is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Dropping turkeys and there it goes. Doesn't even get a parachute.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Pat it's a frozen turkey. It's just gonna leave an indentation.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
You just have to be really careful when you bank it.
You don't want to get bunked in the bean with
a bit of all m or your kids barely bunked
in the bean with a bit of all seventeen pound
butterball would be significantly smaller than there. I love you too.
That's exactly what he just mounted to me. All right.

(01:29:47):
I brought up the original on this one so that
I could show the pictures. So if you'd be kind
enough to read this, because there's several pictures and I
wanted I want to. Yeah, because I'm on the archived
version and only has the one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Okay, well, I'll go ahead and read it. Then. Italian
authorities have recovered precious third century BC artifacts from an
Etruscan necropolis looted by a couple of bungling tomb raiders
not exactly Lower Croft in Umbria, who stumbled across the
hall on their land. The Etruscans flourished in central Italy

(01:30:20):
around two thousand, five hundred years ago what were gradually
assimilated into the Roman Empire. They left behind lavish tombs,
pottery and statues, but tantalizingly few written documents and patchy
evidence of their daily lives. These artifacts, including eight urns,
two sarcophagi and beauty accessories such as bronze mirrors.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
And its No, so does that mean a snuffalus family
is snuffle up a guy? Yes, and snuffle of a gal.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Yes. I'm just gonna say yes, because I haven't watched
Sesame Street in five days or something. I don't even
know five days, you know, okay? Anyway, and a perfume
bottle still redolent of its original scent are worth at
least eight million euros, the equivalent at eight point five
million dollars. Carabinaria Art Police said they were found in

(01:31:15):
Cittade la Pieve, about one hundred and fifty kilometers or
ninety miles north of Rome. Once sarcophagus contained the full
skeleton of a woman in her forties, while the urns
were finally decorated with scenes from Greek mythology and female
figures with still visible red paint on their lips and
gold coloring on their jewels. Police seized the loot from

(01:31:37):
two entrepreneurs who had unearthed Etruscan burial chambers while excavating
Landale and Perugia. Chief Prosecutor Raphael Cantone told a press
conference on Tuesday they had nothing to do with the
world of practiced tomb raiders and were clumsy and amateurish
in the way they tried to access the black market

(01:31:58):
for rooted art. Prosecutors the Carabinary brought up caught up
with them after they posted the pictures of their discovery
on the internet head boy in the hope of finding
buyers triggering investigations.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Always post what you're doing on the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
It gets better. Trigger investigations included phone wire tap stakeouts
and air surveillance drones. Police finally swooped on the suspects
after one of them posted on Facebook a picture of
himself with a looted artifact. Cantoni said, the taste you
stupid son of a bluff.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
No, not really, but.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
No wrong language spid. I don't know what Italian for
schmuck is whatever. The pair face charges related to the theft,
It's like the wet bandits of Italy. Sorry. The pair
of face face charges related to the theft and trading
and stolen goods and miss jail sentences of up to

(01:32:58):
ten years, said Jim.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
You're not going to believe this led the investigation?

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
What am I not going to believe?

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
I found a website that gives you thirty different ways
to say idiot in Italian idiota okay, so and this
is the offensive rating. All right, so here's a full
sentences jaca today that idiot brother of mine poored coffee

(01:33:26):
on my jacket? All right, STUPIDO? How do we not know? Stupido?
Everybody knows to beetle, stupid, stoopid. I like that one.
M Shamo shamo shamo, somebody with very little intelligence. This

(01:33:49):
is media. Oh I had a friend named Pearla. I
don't think la original. It's thoroughly indicate stupid or and
nept person. And originally it meant spinning top and later
came to indicate, oh, something that we don't want to
talk about. Kay gredin no Gretino means stupid button m

(01:34:18):
F chain day. Wasn't that the same as us calling
them tarbs? It says it's medium. So here are being done?

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Hell sure go sho.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Okay, so there you go. If you ways to leave
your lover and twenty ways to call somebody an idiot
in Italian, I will make sure this is on our website.
Ding ding so much more.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Unbelievable. Wow, those artifacts amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
They're absolutely gorgeous. I mean, look at that, look at
the detail.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
For being that old, they are in a remarkably good shape.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
To have any of that color left. That's insane, and
that somebody you could just stumble on it like that crazy. Alrighty,
you know we're around in the second hour, so I think, no, actually,
we do have some Thanksgiving relative nice things, and then
we'll rapper up with one final story that, of course,

(01:35:20):
we'll see if you manage to make.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Me cry a warming art warming stories, Okay, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
A California family is preparing for a Thanksgiving miracle as
they reunite with a loved one who vanished twenty five
years ago. Thanks to the persistence of law enforcement and
a chance discovery and a news article, a man reported
missing in nineteen ninety nine, wow, has been positively identified
and we'll see in Brace's family again. This is amazing.

(01:36:00):
The story began when a woman from Doyle, California, compacted
Laston County Sheriff's office on November twenty second of this year.
What they startled This just happened with a startling discovery.
She had been sent to a USA Today article from
April featuring a photograph of an unidentified non verbal man
who had been admitted to a hospital in Los Angeles.

(01:36:20):
The woman immediately recognized him as her brother, who disappeared
without a trace in nineteen ninety nine. Man, that's like offering, well, hello,
they're squirreling. We got a squirrely right outside drinking water. Hi, screemy, squeey.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
We're not making new dinner. I mean we're not turning dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
No, we made you dinner. It's out there, okay. So
the deputy took swift action, reaching out to the hospitals
involved and coordinating with the Los Angeles Police Department. I
like how they say LAPD with they don't know who
that is, Missing Person's Unit, and then they never mentioned
the LAPD again, So I don't know why they told
was that that's funny. Excuse me while I take a drink.

(01:37:04):
Through fingerprint analysis, LAPD detectives confirm the man's identity as
the long missing weather. It's going to make their Thanksgiving
that much better, said Captain Mike McCarney of the Lassinette
County the show's office, who described his sister as super
excited and over the moon upon hearing the news. Can
you imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
I can't even imagine. The worst is not knowing. I mean,
we have a dear friend. I won't go into detail
that they have a missing family member, and there's all
these different possibilities, and the worst is just not knowing,
just not knowing. And in a lot of ways, it's
better to find out what happened than not know. The

(01:37:44):
man's disapparent had remained a mystery for decades. Nonverbal and
unable to communicate his identity, he had lived under hospital
care in Los Angeles. Maybe he'll tell us.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
I was I used this article rather than the source
article that okay?

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
The USA Today article, which sought the public selp and
identifying him, proved to be the key to solving this
decade's old case. Law enforcement expressed gratitude for the collaborative
effort that led to the resolution, and then they, of
course they give them as praise and what I'm well,
The names of the family members remain private, but not
the picture of the dude.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
For reals, I.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Wonder if he's gonna maybe see his family and maybe
become verbal. Absolutely, the emotional impact of this reunion is undeniable.
The sisters eagerly notifying other family members, and the thought
of being together again after so many years brings a
new depth of gratitude to the Thanksgiving celebration. I hope
seeing his family brings him out. I mean, can you imagine.

(01:38:50):
I wonder what happened. I wonder if he like fell
or that's what he has a scar on his head
that if he's been nonverbal and in the hospital that long,
where would he get that? Wow? So god speed and
I would love to do a follow up on this.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
Maybe we don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Names to follow a bit. Well, if we do find out,
we will let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Your listeners.

Speaker 6 (01:39:12):
Absolutely, let's slought on into.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Now. See that's why we can't have nice things. I
think it is your turn, Jammy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Of course it is, doesn't he. A man is in
custody for allegedly killing his eighty year old roommate have
for an argument over the Thanksgiving food at their Massachusetts home.
What Richard Lombardi, sixty five, has been charged with manslaughter

(01:39:57):
and a salt and battery and an elderly person fall
in the death of Frank Griswold, no relation to Clark.
According to the Plymouth District Attorney's office. It happened on
Wednesday afternoon at their home on Main Street in Marshfield.
Lombardi told police that Griswold often sneezes, so he warned
the man not to go near the food because he
did not want him to sneeze or contaminate the food.

Speaker 6 (01:40:17):
According to prosecutors, can't you just cover up your schnaz.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
You know, you'd think that would be sufficient. But I
guess this guy has our hang up about it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Okay, then he probably shouldn't be living with the I know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Suspect left the kitchen but later returned to find Griswold
near the food, so he grabbed him by the collar
and shoved him aside. Lombardi surmised that Frank Griswold's feet
got tangled up and he fell and hit his head
on the floor. Yeah, because you shove an eighty year
old man, you'd dope. Prosecutor Joseph Presley no relation. EVI
said in court he did see the victim, mister Griswold

(01:40:53):
near that food doing dishes, said that he went over
and grabbed mister Griswold from behind, grabbed his back and
threw mister green Wall to the ride and tossed him
to the side.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
Prosecutor Joseph was doing dishes and you thrown to the ground.
What's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
He was seen laying face up on the floor in
the kitchen of the pool of blood. When Lombardi saw
his roommate was unconscious and bleeding from the head, he
called nine to eleven. According to court documents obtained by
w CBB, Griswold died of blunt force trauma to the
neck and had, the prosecutor said, an accident. Sort of excellent.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
He doesn't need to be in society if.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
He like Barti's attorney, Marshall Johnson told the court that
Lombardy was devastated to learn that his friend had died
because he killed him. Anyway, the pair were friends for
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
I'm so shad but that my friend died because I
killed him.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
The pair were friends for about thirty years, roommates from
more than twenty years. He said, it sounds like an
accident based on what the evidence was that was were
building court Johnson, I.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
Wonder how much egg nog he had.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
He was shocked, had too much egg now because nobody
had told him that his friend had passed away. Until
I told him. This morning. Bombardy was charged with a
salt and battery and a person sixty and over causing
serious injury and involuntary manslaughter. According to Plymouth District County's office.
He pleaded not guilty in Plymouth District Court and he's

(01:42:19):
being held without bailey. He's expected to be back in
court on December fourth.

Speaker 5 (01:42:23):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Well, prayers to the families of both people.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Like, I mean, Nady, he had a good run. It's
just that's not a way to go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
That's a crappy way to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
He looks more worried than he looks upset, wouldn't you, Well, no,
I'd be devastated. I killed my so called friend. Huh Okay,
I know what people are gonna say, and you're wrong.
So I'm just putting that out there from the headline.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
That's true. I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Yeah, and you're wrong, just so we're it.

Speaker 5 (01:43:01):
Ain't guy, yeah, big guy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
Voters in Monroe County, Michigan elect a convict who will
start his term beyond bars. And I do apologize. Trying
to scroll the site doesn't let me actually school. It
keeps half the sight up there. So sorry about that.
A newly elected county commissioner, Mark Brandt says he's eager
to serve his constituency in Monroe County, Michigan, but first
he has to serve time. Brandt is scheduled to report

(01:43:29):
to federal prison in Morgantown, West Virginia on Friday, making
this a Thanksgiving he'll always remember, even if he'd rather forget.
Brant Was says sentenced to eighteen months in club FED
find five hundred thousand dollars an agree to give up
the more than three hundred grand the Fed's found in
his Monroe home after he pled guilty to what Uncle

(01:43:49):
Sam calls maintaining a drug involved premises. Oh my see,
now that's a real charge. Overstating you know the value
of something which is estate development that everybody does, and

(01:44:14):
paying back your debt with interest in having everybody in
the agreement happy and what to do for their business.
That is not a real, real, a real case. Well,
that may sound like the longtime Republican politician, of course
is Republican was operating a crackhouse or in opium then
in the Michigan Ohio border. It's not that dramatic. Bradt

(01:44:36):
copped to leasing atland to some dudes who grew marijuana
they sold in Ohio and violation of federal al So
he wasn't even part of it. It wasn't even eat least.
I mean, if we tossed a bunch of seeds out
in our yard where our landlords have to go to
jail with an amazing idea, let's do it. Sorry, yeah,

(01:45:00):
I hope they know.

Speaker 5 (01:45:00):
They don't listen to a show and wait, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
It turns out, let's see, Brant, who was first selected
blah blah, somehow kept secret that the FEDS had been
after him for four years. Fellow Commissioner Randy Richard Bill said,
when Brant's colleagues got a whip he might be Brandt
assured them nothing was happening. Well, yeat had nothing to
do with him, Like literally, nothing to do with him.
If you lease the land, essentially they own it until

(01:45:28):
they are no longer leasing it from you. So if
they do naughty things on the land, that has nothing
to do with the land owner, if he's leasing it.
I can't believe he actually got convicted. It turns out
something was happening when Brant, who was serving the chairman
of the Commission, finally came clean in September that he
was facing the potential prison sentence. Richardville said, we were

(01:45:49):
like what grown people still talk like that. Brant resigned
from the Commission on October first, but because it was
too late for Brant to take his name off the ballot,
even if he had wanted to, and it was too
late for other candidates to get their name on the ballot,
Brent was elected to a fourth term on November fifth,
with the staggering ninety percent of the vote go Brant.

(01:46:10):
Brant's popularity contributed to his decisive victory, but he also
benefited from running in a district that is so overwhelmingly
Republican that no Democrat dared challenge him by trying to
get on the ballot before the filing deadline in April.
Add to that the fact that Brent had been elected
three times before, and that I don't think you should
be able to get elected that many times. Too un done,
you're out of there. You shouldn't be able to blow

(01:46:32):
see your way into a life of this. It's ridiculous.
Add to that the fact that Brent had also been
elected three times before. No idea he was in the
Fed's crossheaders. Most people did not know, and it's a
lot easier to understand Brant's landslide comeback victory barely a
month after stating in his resignation letter, I don't want
my personal circumstance to interfere with the smooth operation of

(01:46:52):
the county, I so dearly love. Nevertheless, instead of resigning
a second time, and despite his quote personal circumstance to
close interfering with the smooth operation of the county, he loves,
Brant hustled over to the County Cloak's office last week
and took the other boxes to serve a fresh four
year term will probably do less harm in jail anyway,
Even with time off for good behavior, Brent will spend

(01:47:14):
the first year of that term behind the bars. He says,
it's no big deal. Well, I'm gone, my phone will
be available, I have somebody who will be taking my messages,
and my fellow board members will have volunteered to handle
all of my constituents concerns, and I won't that I
won't be able to handle. I think he should appeal,
because I don't think it's where he got convicted. As
for his salary of about fifteen thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
That's it, that's almost that's.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Yeah, that's like here have a free burger once a week.
Brent said he has no choice by lie, I have
to take the payment while I'm in, he said, pausing
to avoid saying prison, and adding while I'm not here,
He said, he may have to try to donate it
to charity.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Why shouldn't you get paid.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
If he's doing the job and it's not like he's
getting paid enough to I mean, he probably couldn't even
buy cigarettes and get soap on a rope for that.
That's nothing. Some qua how Brant's colleagues feel about his ascertation,
they're willing to pick up his slack, especially since they
have their hands full coping with conundrums caused by his conviction. Oh,

(01:48:18):
I've got to say that one again. Coping with conundrums
caused by his conviction. We are alliterative this evening. Yes, yes,
Medley bumped on the bean of the butterball. Among the
questions they're wrestling with now are Weather County officials who
knew about Bran's predicament should have informed the commission? What

(01:48:39):
could they have done? Though they said it was too late.
This became an issue. I'm not gonna anyways. Let's see
so hippie lettuce, that's funny portfolio, venting land where they
can go soybeans, corn, and vegetables. His lawyer blah blah
renting to properties to individuals that would grow and ultimately

(01:49:00):
distribute marijuana in violation of federal law. But if he
did not know, oh, I guess so back in nineteen
eighty four he sold diet pills. Okay, so I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
He's just move on first time, Okay, whatever, yan yeah, yean, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
Should have been in Florida, man, But yeah, I didn't really,
I didn't notice it was in Cape until now.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Okay, well it's a woman anyway, right, yeah, if you go.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
A popular TikTok influencer allegedly filmed herself shoplifting five hundred
dollars worth of goods from Target and posted the evidence
for the internet to see. Oh my god, seriously. A
loss prevention employee of Target at Cape Coral, Florida, alerted
police on October thirtieth after they saw a woman pile
five hundred dollars and thirty two cents worth of I

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that important months of the self checkout register. The female
suspect did not scan the items barcodes, instead scanning a
false barcode with cheaper prices, the Cape Coral Police said
the press release. They said sixteen items were stolen. Target
employees gave the authorities an image of the woman who
stole the merchandise, which the police posted to their social

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media accounts to seek the public's help. An anonymous caller
saw the post on social media and gave a possible
identification for the suspect. As Marlena velays the press release said, yes,
I just did the white guy Hispanic accent.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
That was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
The anonymous collar also provided officers Marlena's Instagram handle. Twenty
two year old Marlena Velez's instagram led I gotta do
it now, authorities to her popular TikTok profile, where officers
made a surprising discovery. Vealas had I allegedly posted a
video of her day at Target on October thirtieth to
her TikTok account with over three hundred thousand because of

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freaking course she did. Marlena documents herself picking out items
inside the store and placing them in her car. After
exiting the store, police said the Cape Coral the Cape
Coral cops corralled. Never mind. The Cape Coral Police Department
posts a video to its social media accounts with clips
from Valis's TikTok video, which has since been deleted.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
People on TikTok just lose their minds?

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
Is that absolutely? Although the video did not seem to
show or even reveal the shoplifting itself, police were able
to connect Vellis to the crime, who were close the
date and the items she purchased in the video. So
the Cape Coral cops collared the criminal and charged with

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petty theft worth more than one hundred dollars but less
than seven or fifty dollars. What a week? At a week?
I'm really trying, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
Not so strong charge charge.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
She was released on a one hundred and fifty dollars
bail soon after.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
Seriously, though, she posted it on tip honey, it's so dumn.
So yeah, well, I don't know about you, but I've
enjoyed it this evening, and I think it is time
for you know, my very very very favorite very here

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on counterculture. Wise, we may rant, we may rave, but
most of all we go against the current culture because
we believe to the core of our beings that humans
are good and the world is an amazing and beautiful place.
At the beginning of our show, we give you news
of the weird and wonderful, but that is just the

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tip of the magnificent iceberg that is our world. We
now present news of the wonder fuller. I think one
of our recent interviewees would enjoy this story as well.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Absolutely. This is from CBS News, their Sunday morning show.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
All right, so we were amazed at what we were
seeing on a sweltering summer's day when a group of
people with Parkinson's disease began rock climbing on the car
Rock Cliffs in Maryland. Yes, rock climbing, It's all part
of their therapy, says Mullika Kupka. Just go all the
way and do the cake. Cupcake. The no nonsense instructor.

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I'm sure, I bet you she likes it. The no nonsense
Well maybe not. She's no nonsense instructor and cheerleader for
this community of courageous climbing. How can it be both
no nonsense and cheerleader? Isn't the very essence, like the
very meaning of cheerleader. Nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
I'm sitting here listening to you talk raw Rari.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Just Syen, Yeah, Syen. She started this program called up
Ending of Parkinson's as a nonprofit twelve years ago. There's
a lot of balance involved, mobility involved, strength, cardio, and
then there's the cognitive part where you have to look
at the hold and figure out how to get your
body to move to get to that hole. How often

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do they fall? Falling is definitely part of climbing, said Kupka,
but they never really fall because they wear harnesses that
provide a layer of safety. You're always on the rope
you fall that you don't fall far. We always say,
if you're not falling, you're not trying hard enough.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
There's no cure for Parkinson's, which usually affects mobility, coordination, balance,
and even speech. John Lesson was diagnosed in two thousand
and three. He was once an all around athlete. About
twelve years ago, he retired as a cardiac an athesiologist
because of Parkinson's. His daughter Brittany, watched his steady decline
until he discovered climbing walls as high as sixty feet.

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My dad has a hard time walking across the room,
but you can make it to the top of this
giant wall. Wow. There's a lot that he's had to
give up because of his disease, but this is something
that he found through it, which is really cool. I'm
not send this article to our friends, John said. I
get to the top and I feel like I've conquered something,

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and I feel like the wall camp beat me. I
can beat the wall. Full disclosure. The story is very
personal to me. My late husband, Aaron Latham, had Parkinson's
and boxed as a way to fight the Simpsons, the
Simpsons Watch out Over. As he explains on Sunday Morning
in twenty fifteen, boxing's just the opposite of Parkins's, said Latham.

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Everything's designed instead of to shrink you, everything's desired to
pump you, pomp you up. John Lilsson said, Parkinson's makes
you feel very small and you make small movements. You're
hunched over, and rock climbing makes you feel like you
can accomplish the world. It was Lesson who first had
that big idea to use rock climbing as a therapy

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for Parkinson's. I wanted to do big movement exercise, he said,
and I found Molly at this gym. Lesson proposed the
idea to Molly Cupko, who runs the Sports Rock Climbing
Center in Alexandria, Virginia. She thought it was worth a try,
given the sport requires participants to pen ahead to know
where to position their hands and feet. I wish I

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could go into the brain and see what's happening while
people climbing. Maybe I should try, as some people with Parkinson's,
like the vac Pory, get dyskincia involuntary jerky motion, so
that's like a wait. I can think of his character name,
but Michael J. Fox Perry said he's usually unaware of his.

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He runs a home building company in DC area and
was thirty eight when he found he had Parkinson's. Fine
motor skills have kind of really suffering dramatically, he said.
When I don't climb for some periods of time, I
get worse. But once he gets on the wall, he
calls meself spider man. He's got a really good physique too,
so he does well for himself. Honestly, I climb like

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a monkey, he said. I get my finger strength moving,
which gets my fine motor skills. Maybe not back, but
kind of keeps that in motion. I think a lot
of people give up too easily, and you're like, oh,
I can't do it, so I'm not going to try. Yeah.
I think that's the only reason I'm even walking is.
I mean, there's days where it hurts so bad. I
could just say I'm not going to do it, and

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I'm like, no, no, I'd rather be tired and in
pain than to not do it. And usually once I
get up and I am moving, I do feel better. Right.
There's no evidence climbing slows the progress of Parkinson's, but
Kupka joined forces with marri Mount University last year. The
study patients climbing. For the first time, we have people
literally walking and carrying weights, you know, walking and looking

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at multitasking.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
She said.

Speaker 3 (01:58:01):
The study found that, in so many words, if you climb,
you may walk better. Mark de Mulder, as a musician
and former director of the National Geospatial Program, doesn't need
a study to prove what climbing does for him. Allows
me to say, all right, take that Parkinson's. I'm doing
this and just makes me feel stronger and I'm fighting it.

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I'm doing something about it. Yeah, I looks so happy.
Too many of the climbers have become friends who climb
together several times a week, and they become a support
group Parkinson's Powells who encourage each other. When I reach
the top, I can turn around and look and wave
and see my wife and friends. And that's the reward.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
Webby speak close too.

Speaker 3 (01:58:42):
It's really wonderful. There's no real understanding of how these
people can do this, but you can certainly understand why.
An emotional Virecaperee said, it's nice to be good at something.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
It's a good story.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
Love, I love ways. I always fantasized of only the
horse camp to help us children. Yeah, I love that story. Well, folks,
I have so much to be grateful for, and I
hope you do too. And I hope you had an
amazing Thanksgiving. I hope you didn't get bunked in the

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we will be here next week as we count down
to Christmas, and may you have an amazing week. Thank
you so much for being here with us.

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