April 30, 2025 • 51 mins
Welcome to the Taco Guy Industrial Complex
Welcome in, beer nerds! This week is packed with laughs, swishes, and suds as Flex may or may not swirl his stout, Greg brags about his elite-level taco guy, and Steph returns to shake things up with her crispy takes and Kolsch-fueled wisdom. Steph also drops her wisdom from the brewers guild and is knee-deep in beerfest planning while Flex is letting his kids pick out his beer and Greg gets classy drunk (again).
Beers We’re Drinking
- Flex is sipping on Teddy Bear Kisses by Upland Brewing, a boozy, bourbon-barreled stout that's shockingly smooth and deeply chocolatey.
- Steph is enjoying a Kolsch from Bohemian Brewery in Salt Lake City—crisp, traditional, and unapologetically coffee-free.
- Greg cracks open Here’s to Feeling Good All the Time by Bissell Brothers, a dank and piney DIPA that could use a little less malt and a little more chill.
Steph crashes the party again, and things immediately derail—mostly thanks to Flex’s stout-swirling scandal that launches an all-out war over what actually counts as a “swish.” Greg tries to keep order but gets sidetracked bragging about his personal taco guy (yes, that’s a thing), sparking a full-blown culinary class divide. The gang confesses to drinking more wine and seltzer than beer these days, which might be blasphemy on a craft beer podcast, but hey—hydration matters. And Steph tells us all about the planning of her upcoming beer festival: the Great Beer Mashup!
Booze News
- 🍸 California distillery sues New York for playing hard to ship—just let the booze flow already.
- 🍺 Utah’s got a beer fest where actual brewers pour the beer—imagine that.
- 🛒 Texas okays boozy RTDs in gas stations, because nothing says “road trip” like 17% ABV.
- 🧾 Colorado caps liquor licenses at 36 grocery stores—because nothing fixes a problem like weird math.
- 🎶 Brewpubs under attack by the music mafia—a Rick-Roll cold really cost them.
- 🍻 We’ve got the Top 10 Craft Breweries—and some NA beer snuck onto the list.
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Episode Transcript
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You look like a hot RosieO'Donnell in it.
Welcome in everybody.It's the craft beer republic.
Thanks for drinking.Thanks for joining. I'm Greg.
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I'm Joe.I mean, what was the wizard's name?
And Blades of glory.That's what you sound like. Oh, no.
It's the evil wizard. That's.Followed by, like, a kind of.
I just remembered.I have to leave. Yeah.
(00:44):
Then he tells the story aboutGary the Squirt. Oh, dear.
That's Flex everybody.They're at a bus stop in Tucson,
and Gary said, I got a third ball.Oh. He just keeps going. I'm sorry.
We could be halfway through theshow at this point.
He's coming from the show cut.It's just my my movie knowledge
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and so excited to be joining us.I'm sure she's thrilled.
Oh, I'm gonna make you sound soofficial. Okay. I dare. You.
But after that, it's. It feels weird.The executive director of the
Utah Brewers Guild. Damn.So fancy sounding.
Also part of Beer Nerd radio.And, uh, we formally know her as
(01:29):
Miss Tipsy Socks.And now the Beerfest Queen.
It's Steph. Me Steph.It makes you sound like I know
things.I know it makes you smart and shit.
I know it's terrifying.Yeah, well, I always try to undersell
myself. Damn it! That's all of us.We're such self shitters.
Uh, I have a model that hangsabove my front door that just
says expect less.So Shitters would imply that
(01:52):
from Walmart.I just want to let you know that.
Oh, well. Know myself from Walmart.It'll be beer.
Just so you know, the Walmart,Walmart, brewers package or whatever.
The brewers. Suck. Yeah. Oh, dear.Anyways, hey, thanks for joining
everybody at @Flex_me_a_beer.And maybe one of these days at
(02:13):
Miss Tipsy Socks again.Yeah, we'll be back.
She'll be back. I'll be back.Yeah. Can't stop the socks.
Go, go follow beer nerd radio in themeantime. Sure. Yeah. How about that?
And shout out to our top listeners,Steve. Last week.
Playa Vista, California. Oh, my.I sat on my hood ish.
Sounds like a vista pool. Okay.You mean beach? Vista beach? Yeah.
(02:36):
Playa piscina is pool. Damn it!Yeah. It's fine, it's fine.
It's down near LAX. So lax.Black. What? Up down there?
Uh, so what you get today?What is that happening in
Fayetteville?I had to get a win right there.
(02:57):
Chuckle the clown over there. Yeah.How'd that work out for you, Sheena?
Uh, stay tuned for your Spanishlesson by Senor Flex coming up later.
Uh, all right,before we get into anything, let's
let's ask some important questions.In a world where craft beer is king.
A world where muscles are biggerthan growlers.
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Only one tongue can guide us.One man, one tongue,
one Tongue-jobber.In this world, we must find out
what is flax drinking?So here's a terrible story. Oh.
Another one. It's all I have. Um.Well, so I didn't want to do this,
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but I like doing it.And Greg loves that.
I do my favorite.I take my kids beer shopping with me
Mm. To the local, uh, liquor market.And, uh, they like picking out fun
beers with fun canard and fun names.And there's this beer that I've
been putting off for weeks now.Some would say months.
(04:08):
Wait, how long has it been in yourpossession? Oh. A day. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Like I finally like in. Yeah.I finally bit the bullet today.
Gave in, and, uh.My youngest daughter, she's eight.
Uh, she saw this beer. She's 32.I hate that she can read now.
Oh, damn. Damn. Kids are too smart.I tried so hard to keep that
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from happening. Yeah.She saw this can,
and it was called Teddy Bear Kisses.And it has this really kind of
adorable teddy bear.And he's got some rips and he's
sewn up a little bit.I don't know if you can really
see it.Oh, a little bit, but it's pretty.
It's pretty adorable.Why is writing so evil, though?
(04:53):
You know, because he's like, uh,maybe he's like an evil teddy bear.
I don't know. See?No, not even an eyeball.
He's got some claws.I've never seen a teddy bear claws.
This is a beer I don't normallyget because I'm a haze boy.
Greg knows this. Yeah. You are.Uh, this is a big, bad, uh,
bourbon barrel aged imperial stoutwith cacao and hazelnut extract.
(05:16):
Oh, that'd be. Awesome.Um, I guess I don't know.
I just want someone to brew a realsugary beer and just name it Wilford
Brimley. Yeah, with tons of oats.How old was he? 85. 88?
Yeah, we looked at. I was like, 80.I was gonna say seven.
So somewhere in there? Yeah.He lived here in Utah.
(05:37):
He was a Utah boy. Oh, damn.But we decided that I'm gonna get,
uh, diabetes because you live long.Called it.
You pronounce it incorrectly.I'm sorry. Uh, back to the beer.
Um, so I had looked up the wrong beerearlier. This is from Upland Brewing.
Brew brewing? Upland Brewing company.Not to be confused with Downland
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Brewing Company.And they're out of Bloomington,
Indiana. So some Midwest shit.Uh, Zach should be psyched about
this. Hey, Zach. Uh, ten. Oh.I'm sorry. 12% ABV.
I definitely looked up the wrongbeer. It's 12%. Uh, 5000 check ins.
406 on the. Uh. Oh overall. Yeah.So I looked up the wrong beer,
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I told you. Three. Eight. Five.Yeah, the wrong beer on tap reads.
You're the worst. Right, man? We.We made our teddy bear kisses
Imperial stout even more cuddlyon the palate by aging it on
bourbon barrels for six months,imparting hints of bourbon.
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The aroma is a burst of darkchocolate with tinges of roasted malt
and rich molasses, as well as oak,vanilla and English toffee.
Slightly sweet with bold chocolateand dark caramel flavours, which
are complemented by subtle hints offruit that evolve from additions of
caramel malt and molasses molasses.It's just like you should say,
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molasses. So on the nose here.Mm. Very sweet. Very sugary.
It's like a like a chocolate shake.So what I smell chocolate shake.
This does not look like a chocolateshake. It's pretty black.
The old Tongue-jobber here.Didn't warm it up as much as it
did last week. No, no. It's good.It's nice when you squish it.
That's all. Yeah. That's good.I didn't swish it.
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You don't like swishing?Stouts for sure. I didn't swish.
It. I didn't mean to swish it.It'll be exactly like you just did.
So go ahead. But I didn't.Switch it, so, um, I don't know.
It's, uh.It's like picking on me again.
Well, but I didn't switch it,so I don't know why she's saying
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I switched it because I didn'tswitch it. So she's just wrong.
It's. It's stupid. It is.She sounds stupid because she's
saying I did something that I didn't,and it's stupid. I'm sorry.
I apologize for noticing thatyou switched it.
I'm not even gonna switch it now,because I'm not going to give you the
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satisfaction of switching because I.Didn't do it. You can stop yourself.
It was a big sip. That's what it was.It was a big sip.
And I expelled the error fromthe big sip. All right.
So maybe that looked like Iswitched it, but I just expelled
the air from the big sip becausemy cheeks got big and I went.
Oh. That looks like a swish.Anyway, how's that beer? It's good.
(08:38):
It's it's a it's a it's a it's a goodbeer. I guess it's like, uh, sweet.
It's chocolatey.Um, if there's any kind of,
like, fruit notes, it's like,uh, figs or some shit.
I would think, like, sweeter,sweeter, uh, fruit.
Uh, maybe a little hints ofcaramel on the back end.
I don't get a lot of oak. Um.It's probably for the best. Yeah.
(09:02):
Let me just, I don't know,one more time. Just one. More.
Just a regular sip, as I. Say.Sapped before seeing. Sap.
That's one. Sap sucked.I said that to be funny. Shut up.
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Did you see it? Did you see?Switched it. Total switch.
There was no. How do you guys drink?Not like. That. That's how I did it.
All this is being cut out. You know.This is my two week notice.
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She wouldn't even be here in twoweeks. I'm done. Neither will I.
It's just bullshit. I'm sorry.I try not to be hated everywhere
I go. It's failing.It's a fine beer for people who
like big, uh, big stouts.It's good. It's not boozy at all.
I guess that's the big shock fora 12%. That is shocking. Shocked.
(10:13):
Shocked. Uh, yeah, but it's good.It's good.
So I guess I never even heard ofupland. Well, good job, Flex's kids.
Yeah, thanks. Uh, daughter.Daughter number two. Yeah.
Uh, anyways.All right, let's let's talk
about some some drinking. Yeah.I feel like whenever Stetson is
when I talk most about, like,my classy wine drunk.
(10:37):
I don't know why. True.I mean, I talk about it here and
there, but, like stepson.It's a it's a weekly occurrence.
Oh, see, it's not just me.Why am I getting blamed for things
like I'm Flex or something?I'm just trying to not make you feel
special. Ouch. Sorry, sorry, sorry.Did you stub your toe? Yeah.
That was my thumb. That was real.That was mean. Yeah.
(11:01):
But you probably swished it.Uh, we had our wine pickup party
that I told Flex.I told you what was going to happen.
Where?It's in Malibu,
overlooking the water. Yes.You sent me pictures. Yeah.
Wine pickup party with tacos andbeach view. It's fantastic.
Uh, got pretty hydrated.Nah, it's a great tacos. Good time.
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I was just going to ask.Super solid taco guy. Yeah.
I mean, we talked about before.They have a great taco person,
and we contacted the taco personbecause they're so good.
We cannot afford their taco person.We're keeping our taco person.
Steph, do you have a taco person?Like, personally? Yeah.
Just for myself.But like, whenever we have a
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party that needs tacos,we have a taco guy that we call.
So they come over and they makefresh tacos.
This has to be a California thing.That's are called immigrants.
We pay them handsomely.No, we I mean, we have lots of,
like, taco trucks and tacostands by we've never seen.
(12:03):
It's weird that I have a tacoguy is my phone.
Is weird because he's very strange.Every person he knows has a taco guy.
How many people do you know?Like six.
Okay, well,I don't have a lot of friends.
Well, it's. A. Lot of tacos. Flex.And I don't have a taco guy, so.
No, I don't want his number.He's really good. Very affordable.
Third of your friends don't havea taco guy. You're missing out.
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No, I have friends who makegreat tacos because I live close
to the southern.I mean, you're in California,
you have great Mexican food.But, yes, the best.
I don't have a taco guy. Oh.All right, we'll have a taco.
And our wine owners,people have a taco person. And, uh.
I would expect wine owners tohave a taco. Person. Yeah.
I mean, they live in Malibu.Expect them to have, like.
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Live in Taco. I'm sorry.Yeah, I would expect them to
like taco people.Not like taco person. Yeah.
I mean, there were there waslike three people there.
And you call the guy and he comeswith his whatever, his crew,
and he has a. Crew, so he.Like, got. It like a caterer.
Like he works in the kitchen.I mean, it's not. No, no, no.
Like he brings everything.He brings his little taco
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situation where he cooks the meat.Yeah, like a taco tent.
I hope that's what he.He's got his pop up tent.
And this. Is the taco. Situation.Yeah, this happens at someone's home.
So, yeah, this happens.So, like, we'll have birthday parties
and we'll hit up the taco guy,and he comes over, and I'm just.
How much do you make a year?Like at least $7.
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I mean, you're living high onthe hog over there.
He's got five wine memberships.There is a transcontinental.
There is a. Taco guy around here.Oh, okay. You know that I know.
Do you know his phone number?I don't, but my sister in law's
husband does because one of his highschool best friends is friends with
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him. Or he's his taco guy by proxy.You have a taco guy.
So if I really wanted to,I could get a taco guy.
What's his minimum order? Like two.Because Greg's taco guy is probably,
like, 50.No, this guy's by, like, the day.
Like you pay for the day.You pay him hourly.
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And he does everything.My taco guy,
you tell him how many people aregoing to be there and everything.
Does he swish his beer aroundbefore he swallows it? Yeah.
We're done here.Move on from the taco guy. Yeah.
My taco guy.You tell them about how many
people will be there,and he charges you accordingly.
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And then there's always leftovers,which are the best,
because in the next day,you just throw all that leftover
taco meat into some eggs are so goodwhen you're hungover. Yep. I agree.
I'm unaware of the leftover situationhere. Oh, it's such a good situation.
You don't like, you don't leaveleftovers or you don't like. Them.
With the third party taco guy.Pay attention to the conversation.
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Greg means when you take yourfood with you, you know there's.
Specifically.Leftovers from the taco. Guy.
There's always taco guy leftovers.So because when you hire him to
be your taco guy.He always there's always leftover.
And he always here's here you go.Here's your leftover.
Like he'll ask like, hey,can you send me, can you give me
some Tupperware so I can load it up?And you get all the the
leftovers the next day whenyou're hungover is shit.
(15:22):
You just dump them in a pan withsome eggs and cheese. Boom.
That sounds amazing, actually.That sounds fantastic.
Well,why would it not sound fantastic?
Exactly. Anyways, where were we?Why am I feeling so hurt?
All of a sudden?Because you don't have a taco guy.
You should. You need a taco guy.I'll send you his number. Okay.
Thank you. Yeah.Anyway, so why didn't Taco it happen?
(15:44):
It was great. No.I feel attacked for having a
taco guy. Yeah. You shouldn't.You should feel very, very lucky.
You should feel. Privileged.Have their own taco guy.
Some of us are starving.There are starving children in Utah.
And you have your own taco guy.I mean, he doesn't live here.
I feel like if there was any state,I would think that not starving kids,
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it would be Utah. Not starving kids.Yeah. Why? Well, Mormons.
Yeah, but they have too many.Yeah, but they got a lot of food.
That's a weird stereotype, but.Okay. I don't know.
Too many wives to feed. Yeah. Yeah.Man, I could go for a sister.
Wife. Damn. Yeah. So. Yeah.So tacos, anyhow. Arrives.
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I don't know how to steer out ofthis storm, you know. Yes I do.
Let's find out what Stef is drinkingover there with a call to the pad.
Has fun adding Michelle.I won't. We are terrible people.
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Uh, I am drinking a kolsch, which isone of my favorite styles of beer.
Oh, same. I'm a crispy girl.You're a crispy boy.
I'm a crispy boy. Girl.I love a good kolsch.
And it has to be done well.And, yeah,
I'll take it over your standardlager or any of the other stuff.
Yeah, I love a good kolsch,but sometimes I've had a kolsch that
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wasn't really a kolsch and I yelledat for calling it a kolsch anyway.
It's a kolsch style.Because it's like champagne.
You can't call it champagne ifit's not from the region.
As long as you use the kolsch yeast.Okay.
Anyway, so this one's from BohemianBrewery here in, uh, Salt Lake City.
It's not really a kolsch.This one is.
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This one does not have coffee in it,so I'm not gonna get yelled at.
I love having coffee in my kolsch.I do too, but apparently it offends
some people when I say, oh, I lovethat coffee kolsch. They're like.
I did a whole coffee kolsch collab.You did?
Yeah, I thought you said that.I thought, yeah, I thought you were
talking shit. Yeah, no I should.There's a brewery here.
That once a year you weretalking to Craig and not me.
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So you weren't talking shit.That makes sense. Swisher calls you.
Bitch. That's right. Let me.It doesn't matter what it smells
like, but let me swish it around mymouth and tell you how it tastes.
That's how it's done, right,Flex. I wouldn't. Know.
Wouldn't you, though?We're just gonna. At some point.
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I wouldn't. Uses.How's that beer? It's delicious.
It's crispy. It's delicious.I have lost track of what I was
saying. I don't have an untapped.So I can't give you all the stats.
It's fair of my beer.Because first of all,
when you swoosh.It's like you go like, cheek to
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cheek, right? So you're like.It's not mouthwash. That is proper.
No, but that's what you swish.That was like.
And that is how you swish.You go like cheek to cheek.
Whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh. Right.I did not do that with my beer.
I did not do it with my beer.Thank you very much.
Some people, including some.People, did not swish and.
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Deflate the entire. Yep.That's what you. Did? Yep.
Mom and dad, they're fighting again.Yep. Get in the fucking closet, Greg.
Bye, guys. Then pull it together.Okay. I do not have an untapped.
This is a crispy kolsch.It's very traditionally kolsch.
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It is a traditional kolsch.It is. There is no coffee in it.
There are fruit flavors.I do enjoy a coffee. Kolsch.
But this is not it. This.This is a kolsch. Kolsch.
Once again, I feel attacked forthe coffee. Kolsch. But yeah.
I there's a brewer here thatmakes the best coffee. Kolsch.
But I got asked about it.Oh, the words dude.
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My gosh, was the best coffee kolsch.Did you? You yourself made a coffee?
I collab with a brewery who willgo unnamed because now they're
they've joined the dark side.But back when they weren't,
we had a we did a collab as acoffee kolsch and it was delicious.
We collab with the local coffeeroaster and uh oh. So good.
That's in there.Two flavors that just go well
together so it makes sense.It's fine.
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Coming to the now I get it.Whenever I try to do collabs,
I try to get, you know, make themdifferent and Can't get the net.
I'm sorry I give the worst beerreviews on your show because I'm
just like, it's beer. It's good.I'm gonna swish it around in my face.
You're being attacked by someguy in Wisconsin.
(20:37):
It's called the cuvée. Oh, dear.It's. Yeah. You're so right.
I'm gonna tell Mom and Dad.I thought we were. We are.
We wait. No, no. You're confused.You're the kids that are fighting.
Who's clearly who's in charge?I don't know. Not me. Nobody.
(20:58):
Inmates or anything. All right.It's a free for all. Yeah.
We'll move on and see what orderwe can keep. Uh Flexy. Yeah.
Do any beer lately? Uh.Not much. Um, no.
Don't ask me about your research,Greg. Okay.
I'm not making it out much.Okay. Steph. Yo! Hey.
(21:18):
Do you need, uh, beer?research lately or.
Anything as far as,like tasting research? Yeah.
Just hit any new breweries or newdrops or. No, I think it'll happen.
I think the last time I,the last episode I was on,
I told you guys, I just try to Plinythe Younger for the first time.
But that's really about asresearching as I've gotten lately.
How about you? What about you, Greg?Have you done your research?
(21:40):
I told you, man, I'm.I'm all about that wine life these
days. That's right. Fancy pants.Classy. Classy drunk. No. I've been.
I've been drinking whiskey alittle bit lately, so.
I know part of the reason I've beendrinking so much wine and seltzers,
to be honest, is, uh, you know, thefigure? Yeah. Yeah. I just I don't.
(22:00):
Yeah. Beers are very filling.I've been doing the.
I've been doing similar.Uh, with the seltzers. Yeah.
I don't sound so bad for a beerpodcast.
I don't do a ton of beerdrinking at home anymore.
I this is gonna sound bad comingfrom a beer professional who gets
paid to do like two different,three different beer jobs.
(22:21):
I don't drink much beer at home.Yeah, I will go out and do a little
research here and there, but likethe at home stuff doesn't happen
very much outside of this show.Yeah. What's wrong with this?
That's because I don't havefriends actually come over.
This is the only when I drink a beerat home, it's usually with friends.
And I've lost £13 since January.Holy shit. Yeah. Wow.
(22:42):
That probably didn't.That is impressive. Real stuff. Yeah.
Wow. Good job. Are you eating. Right?Yeah. Just, uh. It's like seltzers.
Uh, Tuesday through Sunday andthen beer on the podcast.
Oh, my God, you guys,what's wrong with all of us?
This just became the worst podcastever. Yeah, I don't think.
(23:03):
Next up is our AARP cards.Also, this beer show is about
how none of us drink beer.Brought to you by truly.
We I got I I'm looking at beerright now on my fridge.
There's beer. I'm drinking beer.I was at a beer festival and I saw
there was a vizzy tent, and theywere selling things that said,
I love beer. And I was like, but.You're not even.
(23:26):
All you're pouring is busy.It doesn't. Okay. How's that work?
They got antioxidants.Must have been the booze or
something. Whatever they are now.It was one of those big Beerfest
where everything's brought to you by.Oh, yeah. Mike's hard.
Mike is hard. Yeah. Damn it!We did one of those Beerfest, like,
local ones where it wasn't big,but they got donations.
(23:46):
And clearly one of the localdistributors had just donated a
bunch of kegs,and nobody knew what they had.
And there was like, oh, your randomshit that no one cares about.
Some Ballast Point, some or whatever.And they did have a keg of Pliny
and they had no idea what theywere pouring.
Yeah,and they were giving full pours.
And so I was like, hey,friends who know what we're drinking.
Anybody who wasn't blind.Oh my God. That's insane.
(24:10):
Yeah, that was good times.The girl porn was like, oh,
you guys must really like this.I'm like, yeah, you know.
We don't see it on tap all the time.We have.
A couple brewers select, but.What is. Come on. What is?
People are dumb. So anyways.All right little, little news.
Before I tell you what I'mdrinking over here.
Well, do you think people thatgo to Beerfest,
(24:32):
do you think they all know or, like,into beer or they're just like,
I feel like it's. A good split.Like drinking. Good show.
I mean,I go because I want to try new shit,
and I also want to catch a good buzz.But I think there's also a lot
of people who are like, it's.Beer and it's all you can drink.
That's what I was thinking, right?I think it's I, I really do
think there's a good split.Uh, actually, one of my
(24:55):
girlfriends that's a head brewer.She was. I was at the festival.
Uh,I can't talk a festival this weekend.
And she was a long festival, and Iwas like, how'd it go after I left?
And she's like, well, nobody puked,so that's a good thing.
And I was like,does do people do that?
And she's like, oh yeah, Where areyou? And I'm, like, not puking.
Yeah, I wouldn't think thathappening there. Uh oh. No.
(25:19):
I mean, we have plenty of.You get served plenty at a beer
festival, but I was in at Greattaste of the Midwest, and, like,
I don't know, five minutes into it,some guys puking on the side of
the sidewalk.Where are you fucking pregame
Jesus doing?Because in Wisconsin they pregame
everything. Like pregame the pregame.It is a thing that happens here.
Yeah, I've poured a Beerfest andI'll agree, it's pretty split.
(25:42):
The funny thing was, I wasn'tactually working for the brewery.
I was just helping out.And you'd get the guys who were like,
you know, IPA dorks,and they come up like, oh yeah,
what hops are you using in this?Like, I didn't fucking make the beer,
dude. I don't know the green ones.I'm that guy, though.
Like, I'm, I'm very interested in.And I get it. I am to that aspect.
If I know, I will absolutely tellyou. But you were just boring.
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I was just festivals becausethey're big.
You're getting beer poured toyou by someone who's like a
volunteer volunteer.I'd been asked by the actual brewery,
I should have known a little bitmore.
They should have given me moreinformation.
Yeah, but, you know, I was like,you know, I don't know,
but I know it's, you know,it's West Coast style with notes
of whatever, like. Yeah.And the funny thing is you get
the people like, yeah,this isn't this isn't very good.
(26:25):
I'm like, all right.Once again, did not make it.
So don't feel obligated to drink it.I'm not gonna cry if you dump it.
Yeah.It's just really not a good IPA.
Like.Yeah,
I heard you the first three times,homie. Yeah. You know, it'd be cool.
Is it Beerfest where the brewers pourthe beer for you? That'd be cool.
Yeah. Wait, I have one of those.Oh, tell us about it.
My Beerfest in Utah.That's coming up.
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Our brewers pour their beer thatthey make. It's amazing.
It's like an educational eventand a party. All. In one once.
Oh, and no puckers. We'll see.Don't jinx. It. No promises. Yeah.
I mean, plenty of beer to be.I would love for you guys.
To get on a trip to Utah right now.What is it? It's in May, right?
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Yeah, It's May 10th, Flex.Are you busy?
I said I'd spot you guys ticketsif you got here. Probably busy.
It's Mother's day weekend.Bring your wife.
Every mom wants a beer festival.Yeah, especially Flex his wife.
She loves beer. Oh, yes.The biggest fan of.
She's waiting for that Walmartpack to drop right now.
Fan of the beverages.And some cocktails and some beers.
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And, I don't know, one yearsomebody made snow cone beers,
and they were fucking delicious.Everything she still doesn't like
because it has alcohol inside of theliquid. I'd rather have any beers.
We actually, we don't have too many.And this year I was hoping we'd
have a couple, but I don't thinkwe have any. Honestly, I thought.
Maybe. There was any. No.What am I doing here?
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My time with you makes me feellike everything's in a real
sober and painful. All right.Keep drinking. Just kidding.
I love you like some kids.All right, if anybody wants to
sponsor my my plane ticket outto Utah, I'd like to go to this
festival. Gofundme.com.I would actually, seriously,
genuinely.I've had a couple of our little,
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like, influencer community friendscome out to our festival before,
and they said they had a great time.All right. I'll talk to the wife.
Do it. Come on now.We have to go to Florida at the
end of May. Yeah.Oh, I'm not looking forward to this.
Saint Pete. That's a good point.Bad, actually.
Yeah, that's all right.I was like,
at least let's go to Miami.So we hang out with Vanessa or
something.I was like, no, we're going to Saint
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Pete, which is like four hours away.So it's a nice area.
Yeah, it'll be nice.This is the first and hopefully
last time I'm going.What are you going for?
Some family members,high school graduation. Oh, it's.
Not even a real thing. You should.You're flying for a high school
graduation. Not by choice.That's crazy. Mm. I'm just gonna.
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Put that out there. That's crazy.Is this like a immediate family
member of your wife?Somehow of the wife? Yes. Okay.
There's a nephew. That's a long.That's a long trip for a high school
graduation. I can't underscore.You're just correct. You are.
Like a whole week out of it. Mhm.Extended weekend. Oh, that's. Yeah.
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That's like a what is that,a five hour flight. Six hour flight.
It's five. It's five there.It's like five there.
And five and a half on the way back.I was gonna say it's shorter on
the way there. Right. Yeah.From west to east.
It's always faster. Yeah, exactly.So, uh, the good news is I've
already gotten some beer recs from,uh. Vanessa. Vanessa and husband.
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They're like, oh, we we got allthe beer breweries for you.
They're good because I'm goingto need them. I love those, too.
I have to say, I'm pretty sadthat everybody's hanging out in
Florida right now except us.They always try to get me to go
out there for every fest.I'm like. It's fun.
Although I'm like, why is everyonedrinking stouts in frickin Florida?
Oh my God, that's like thefucking Firestone Festival.
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First weekend of June in Paso Robles.It's always 113 degrees.
I'm like, hey,who wants a barrel aged quad?
Nobody. Fuckers. Nobody wants this.Yeah, one of our breweries got
invited to that one this year andthey're all pumped. But I'm the same.
I'm like, why are we just.Gil, give me a pilsner. Yeah.
Who's your brother?Got a blow for a pale?
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The worst. Yeah.I've only been to one Firestone.
And and look, it was good in thesense that it was big.
Lots of breweries are invite only,but I don't need stouts when
it's 110 out. It's odd.Florida loves their. Stuff.
I don't need them when they're20 degrees out. Same.
But I like to taste them.But I don't want I don't want a
16oz of stout. Except. For.Teddy bear kisses. For. Brew.
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In case Flex daughter is listening,it's the best beer he's ever had.
Oh, that's really cute.I would have went into, you know,
the description, but it's good.I think you did go in the
description.No, no, no, I said it was good.
I think we got derailed by this.Wishing we may have.
Everybody's listening to whatswishing is because I cut most of it
out. The drinking is what she meant.We're gonna have a separate.
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We're gonna go live at some point.Oh, gosh.
We're gonna take a poll to seeif Flex is swishing. Just drink.
I'm gonna pull the video foreveryone. No! Swish!
We will do a pull up.I'll pull the video,
see what people say.Uh, all right, a little news
before we get up on here.California distillery is taking
on New York over their shippingrestrictions.
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A Los Angeles craft spiritsproducer has taken on the entire
state in a federal lawsuit filedlast week challenging direct to
consumer shipping laws prohibitingdistillers in California from sending
spirits to customers in New York.The complaint, filed by the obscure
distillery in the US District Courtfor the Southern District of New York
comes less than a year after New YorkDistillers and Ciders celebrated
(31:58):
a bill, making New York the ninthstate to allow direct to consumer
shipments within its borders.I remember that. Thank you.
But the new law has some caveats,including that out of state
distilleries can only ship to NewYork consumers if their home state
offers reciprocal privileges.Sounds dirty, to the plaintiffs
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dismay. California does not.By allowing in-state distilleries
privileges that out-of-statedistilleries don't have,
the complaint argues.New York has created an unfair
trade barrier, violating theConstitution's Commerce Clause,
which prevents states fromgranting privileges to in-state
businesses over out-of-state ones.I mean,
it's just courtesy at that point.I agree. Yeah. Get what you give.
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Just can we get rid of theseprohibition era laws and start
shipping where the fuck we want?God, that would be so nice.
Wouldn't it be nice?Just doesn't make sense.
No it doesn't.There's all kinds of weird
distribution laws all over thecountry that I don't understand.
Maybe I want some beer from Utahor some beer from.
No, Nobody wants that.First of all, Steph has given me
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some from Utah and it was delicious.I've had beer from Utah and.
I know we've talked about it fromyour like, uh, airline friend.
Yeah. Yes. Uh, we.Have Tom Nardo DiCaprio as I
refer to him. There you go.Just your whole Flex. I'm.
I'm joking. Uh, yeah. No.I've been. I don't know, you guys.
(33:26):
Have you guys heard about all the.Here's some beer news?
Oh, uh, Florida and Texas areboth trying really hard to get
their laws changed because theycannot self distribute.
So they are both campaigning hardto be able to self distribute,
which is crazy to me as I watch,like a local brewery owner put a
bunch of kegs in the back of hispickup truck to like drive right
to the neighborhood pub likeSelf-distribution.
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I know it's tough for breweries,but it's my favorite. It's amazing.
Utah would not survive without it.Like, we almost everybody here.
That's how they get their beerout there.
I mean, these are small businesses.They don't have money to hire the
big distributors all the time.And so especially if you're
delivering to the pub,that's two doors down.
Like, why should I have to pay adistributor? Right.
I can just walk it down.Best thing I've ever heard.
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The best is if you own multiplelocations and you have to get a
distributor to distribute your beer.To your own location.
Yeah, I've seen that before.It's so stupid.
So you think Utah is crazy?Go to Texas and Florida and
apparently Georgia. Georgia? Yeah.A lot of fucked up post
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prohibition shit.All right, before I talk about this
story, I'm about to run out of beer,so I should probably mention it now.
Greg. I got this beer.
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I think this is the first oneI've had from these guys.
This is Bissell Brothers BrewingCompany out of Portland, Maine.
Here's to feeling good all the time.Is the name of the beer. 7.8%.
It's a double IPA.4.37 an untapped over 21,000 ratings.
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Wow.It says I've been known to have
a few beers.Then again, I've been known to
do a lot of things.That is the entire description.
That's how it should be. I love it.You said Bissell. Bissell. Bissell.
Brothers like things that suck.Yeah, like the vacuum man.
That was a brave move on their part.Right.
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I'm assuming it's the last name,but who knows?
Uh, I wouldn't call this hazy.I'd call this unfiltered.
It's like. Jesse. Lacing is.Lacing is sexy. It's there.
It's like a boudoir photo.A lot of lace all up in your face.
On the schnoz.I get mostly dank, uh,
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piney notes and that kind of thing.Very, very Westie.
Uh, the tongue does not followfar behind.
It's real malty, which we allknow how I feel about that.
You know how I feel about that.It's got some. Great.
Yeah, it's got some great flavors,but the maltiness could serve to
be dialed back a little bit. Mm.Yeah. That, uh, shouldn't be a thing.
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No, it's the tongue a little bit.I just wish it's a little cleaner.
There is definitely some yeastat the bottom of my glass. Yeah.
All right. It's fine. Doesn't suck.Four. Three. Seven. Feels generous.
Four. Three. Seven. Good God.I know Bissel is a bit of a hype
brewery. I don't know.Maybe it's because I got it from
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Tavour.And, you know, they don't treat
their beers the what the best.I think they sit in someone's
basement or something.That's what I've. Heard. Yeah.
So is my basement.We'll have blame it on that.
No you don't.You would hate if somebody shipped
you beer. That's accurate. Please.You don't have to know your address.
Exactly. Uh. All right.A couple more stories we got here.
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Cape Cod.We talked about breweries
merging last week.Cape Cod, hog Island Beer Company
is going to be acquiring MayflowerBrewing out there on the East Coast.
Damn it. We're just headed.For all these, like, Beeropolies.
Right? Hey, cool word stuff.Thank you. You're welcome. Hey, it's.
It's better than whatever hen housein Fort Pointe came up with last
(37:27):
week. Was it chicken in a fort?I don't know. Something like that.
Yeah. Cock Fort something I forget.Just be like Fort Coupe and just,
like, done. See, Fort Coop was good.Look at you being mature.
That's when the rest of us aren't.Uh, talking about Texas booze laws.
(37:47):
Uh, there's been some ups and downsin the spirits world in Texas.
A bill to sell spirit based rtds ingrocery and C stores passed through
the Senate late last week, and we'llmove on to the full Senate if passed.
Spirit Rtds under 17% could beon shelves in time for Texas
football season. Yeah.But on the other side of things,
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meanwhile, in Colorado.That's raising cattle.
A new liquor laws put a stop tospirit sales in future grocery
and big box stores.The law came in response to the
expansion of wine and beer salesin larger channels,
which hurt independent liquor stores.Now, the number of grocery stores
able to sell liquor in the state willremain capped at 36. That's so weird.
(38:34):
Only 36 grocery stores can sellliquor. That's weird. That's weird.
Weird. Cal or Calvin?Colorado is is fairly
progressive in a lot of things.Not their booze laws.
That's really because you know why?Because Colorado is beer country.
They got the they got the likethey're one of the beer mafia states.
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They don't.They have the most breweries.
No, we've been through this.California? Yes, California.
But I think Colorado's second.Colorado has a. Lot. Yeah.
Colorado's a town.Um, music and breweries.
I don't know if Steph has to dealwith this kind of legality stuff.
Is this new Jersey? It's not.Because I know they've had issues
with it, so no one's fine over here.We love you, new Jersey. Oh, wait.
(39:17):
Unless it's the, uh,the licensing. Here we go. Yeah.
Now you're on to it.The Brewers Association has submitted
comments to the US CopyrightOffice expressing members deep
dissatisfaction with the use ofperforming rights organizations.
Pros which license copyrighted music.The Copyright Office has issued
a notice of inquiry for pros.The BHA noted that pro pricing
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makes no economic sense for smallbusinesses like brewpubs and
taprooms, that are required to obtainthe licenses for only a few events
versus year round music venues.The trade group wrote the high cost
of the current system increasinglymakes music a yes no question for
small and independent breweries.Many of our members report that
they have stopped offering musicto their guests due to the high
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cost of pro fees and the threat oflitigation and Copyright Act damages.
I didn't know about this until acouple of years ago, but like
just to play music in a brewery,let alone have someone like a
cover band playing songs that arecopyrighted, you have to have like
three different licenses for this.It's insane actually. And they will.
They'll call you a thousand times.Yeah.
And they'll send you cease anddesist letters and sue you.
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And they'll try and send you,like, invoices and shit.
Yeah, I've heard saying.I've heard of ASCAP just sending
invoices to breweries before. Yeah.It's it's it's it feels very
threatening when they call youover and over and over again.
What I don't understand is whydoes the brewery need the license
and not the person singing it?Um, well, it doesn't matter if
you're if it's a musician orbecause the brewery is the one
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making the money, I think.But you're paying the position.
Right.But customers are coming to the
brewery. Sure.So the whole thing is so weird.
I mean, I understand that somebody'sgot to get paid for something,
but this whole Mafia shakedown is.It's insane.
And I know the Brewers Associationhas been kind of trying the rest
(41:03):
to fight it off for breweries allover the place, but. Well, good.
Hopefully they hopefully something.I mean, maybe pay per event or
something for the smaller people.Just nonsense actually.
Like they're not making enough money,but they actually will track
your like Spotify usage.And if you're using a streaming
service in your brewery, there's away for them to track it so that.
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Yeah. It's insane. It's awful.I think one of the I don't know
if it's Spotify, I think one ofthe streaming services does offer
like a professional level. Right?There is um,
I know like Sonos will do it.And I think there might be a Spotify
one, but I'm here to tell youthat the music selection is ass.
It is the worst.Just careless whisper on repeat.
(41:48):
Say you bite your tongue.Bite your tongue, Greg.
Never got to dance again. Keep going.No rhythm. It's easy to pretend.
And no, you're not a fool.Now we're gonna get sued. Great.
(42:08):
We're gonna get an invoice.Actually, Greg's getting an invoice.
It's not me. That song is amazing.It's not. It's actually a terrible.
Year, actually. Dumb.That was a great comeback.
I got a I got a good story aboutthat song.
We were hanging out with Nick andNicole and Wiley of the Booze League,
or whatever they call themselves now,and he has there. What's that?
(42:32):
Um, something.Tunes where you can play the
jukebox from your phone. Oh.That's an old you know what I'm
talking about.It's the something tunes and and
basically, if the brewery or the barhas it, you can instead of having a,
an old fashioned jukebox, you do itfrom your phone and you can like, pay
for credits on your phone and stuff.Oh, you could wait, wait, you can pay
for that shit on your phone. Yes.I had no idea. Yeah. That's right.
(42:56):
So anyways, we were just within rangeof this bar that he frequents a lot.
So that from his house he would onrepeat requests. Yeah. Whisper.
And he goes watch I do it.And so he do it.
And I was like,we need to find out for sure.
So I called the bar and I and Ijust did the whole like, hey,
how late are you open tonight?And she's like, I can hear tonight.
(43:16):
But as she answered before,she said, hi,
this is such and such bar. You're.Yeah, there's. It's. So. Good.
There's a lot of bars now thathave the little like jukebox
that you can just like. Yeah.And you don't have to be in the
bar to set it off.No, you can torture as many
strangers as you want. I don't.Know. I was dying.
(43:38):
I wish I was at a bar where somebodywas playing Careless Whisper on
repeat. I bet you do that.And, uh, never gonna give you a.
Hey, that's a good song, too.Isn't that the risk that you
just recklessly. Recklessly.So, uh, the numbers. Come to.
The numbers are in the 2024 top50 US craft brewing companies,
(44:00):
ranked by beer.Volume produced or sold in the US.
Sam Adams.Oh, they're always on their, uh,
top ten.I'm not going to go through all 50,
but top ten are number ten steps.Favorite monster brewery for brewing?
Excuse me. I'm angry. Yeah.You don't. You don't like count one.
I guess they count as even thoughthey're a conglomerate of breweries.
(44:20):
So they own, like,I don't even know how many.
They own a crap ton of brewery.They own ten.
I think they've closed four already.So they count as one.
I guess so that's bullshit.That's like saying my pinky toe
counts as all the toes. Right. It's.You don't have enough socks for that.
Yeah. Exactly.Uh, number nine, Brooklyn brewery.
Number eight. This makes me mad.Athletic Brewing company.
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I hate that.There needs to be alcohol in it.
And it's so expensive.That I don't. Yeah. That's odd.
Have you ever been out in anestablishment? Yeah.
You've looked at their menu like,say, like you're at a restaurant
and you look at the domestics,you look at the imports, and then you
look at the owner's athletic brewing.And he is always just as expensive
(45:07):
as a regular craft beer.But do you know why?
I'm assuming I don't.Because they're expensive to brew.
I'm.I mean, I don't know if that's
what they're saying is the excuse,but they're expensive to brew,
so it depends on if you.Never mind. I don't know.
Because if you're brewing it,there are only a very few breweries
(45:29):
who brew so that it doesn't havealcohol in the beginning.
The rest brew restroom and thenremove the alcohol.
And it's like a big, long,expensive process, right?
Do you know what athletic is?Um, I think they remove the alcohol,
don't they? That was my guess.That's what I thought they did.
There.I think there are very few who
brew it in the beginning.So go brewing in Chicago.
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I think they brew theirsoriginally without the alcohol.
Their their neighbor is actuallyreally good.
I've never heard of them.Um, they're really, really good.
Because of the couple I've tried.It seems like the ones that brew
it with alcohol and then remove itlater. Taste more like beer than the.
Yeah, never had alcohol.But it is a big it's a pretty.
From what I've heard.It's a pretty expensive process
(46:12):
to like remove the alcohol.Well they essentially like
vacuum it out.It's kind of cool to look into
if you ever want.It certainly does suck. Interesting.
That was for the Bissell brothers.Actually. It wasn't for suck cut.
Get a load of.This guy came for the sucker.
Actually, we always talk about,you know, a little bit of
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Wayne's World while we're here.Actually, it's pronounced Milwaukee.
Exactly. Where was I? Oh, Athletic.Uh, number seven,
Matt brewing Company. Hey, Matt.Good one. Yeah. Number six.
Gambino's. Never heard of it.That's not a real word or a real
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name. Sounds like a disease.They have a disease? Yeah.
I hear there's a cream for that.Doctor said I can't breathe this
shit, man. Sorry to hear. That.How long do you have to live?
Uh. Number five.Duval Moore got number four.
Tilray brands,which is another conglomerate.
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So is Duval. Duval is Firestone.And, um, something else.
Uh, number three, finally, a realbrewery. Sierra Nevada. Number two.
I drink their beer. Yeah. Yeah.I'll drink a hazy little thing when
I'm getting dinner or something.Uh, number two,
Boston Beer Company. Classic.Which is so many different things.
Besides Sam Adams, it's Dogfish Head.They apparently have the number one
(47:42):
light lager, uh, in the country.Now, I didn't know.
That Sam Adams does. Yeah. Mm.And it's just called, like,
Sam Adams light lager. Creative.Like. Soon to be a Walmart.
Uh, then the number one top craftbrewery in the in the country,
which also not craft anymore.Yingling. Yeah. Not a fan.
(48:05):
I just I'm. Not. Okay. I mean.It's. Just bad. Like a basic lager.
It's just not a fan. Fine.I'll take it over at PBR.
I wouldn't. What about a PBR coffee?Oh, I wouldn't.
I've had a Yuengling, and, uh. Yeah.No, I just don't get it. I don't.
I've only had it once or three timesbecause I was on the East Coast,
and that's the only place Idon't find it.
(48:28):
I can't get Yingling here in Utahunless somebody brings it here,
so. Damn. But I can't even.I can't get it in Wisconsin.
Really? Yeah. That's weird.I found it everywhere in New Orleans.
So, like, random places, you'd thinkthat you could get it in Wisconsin.
So to Saint Louis last summer.And they had it in plenty there.
But you can't get it here inWisconsin.
(48:50):
Because you guys are part of the,uh, why can't I think of the
beer that you guys have?I don't know, everybody loves
what the cows come on down there.New Glarus, new Glarus. Yeah.
You're part of the New Glaruslike mafia.
They're not going to allow yousome mingling in there. What?
I'm not cows. Not even. Great.Well, that's not the point. Flex.
(49:13):
Swish that around in your mouth for aminute. Think about it. I don't I.
Did not bring that up again.I'm done.
And that was the end of that, man.I end a lot of shows. I'm sorry.
The last crappy Republic episodeever.
I've been fired from beer nerd radiolike ten times, but they haven't
(49:34):
changed the code, I just think.I believe I believe that,
though. I do. Like Milton.You just keep getting paychecks.
And I do have a red stapler,actually.
I told them if they take my stapler,I burn the place down.
I think it's upstairs.I do have that.
I have a swing line. It's red.It's fantastic. Of course you do.
(49:55):
It's a great stapler.Couldn't have it any other way.
All right, let's wrap things up.Uh, make sure you go out to
Steph's Beerfest. May 10th.May 10th in Salt Lake City.
The great beer mashup.It's gonna be fantastic.
Somebody sent me some money to flyme out. It's gonna be some ashing.
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It's gonna be so much.Acting like you were almost the
aliens from a lawsuit.So much swishing will happen at
that event.Follow us on the socials at
@CraftBeerRepublic.@Flex_me_a_beer underscores in
between and of course, one of thesedays. Go check out Miss Tipsy Socks.
(50:37):
But in the meantime, go to BeerNerd Radio. Follow them. Sure.
853 beer 2337 mail@CraftBeerRepublic. Com Steph.
Thanks for making fun of us for twoweeks. In a row. You're welcome.
Thanks for letting me out.I just love you guys.
Yeah, we loved it. We love. You.Come back soon. But not to.
Try and stop me. Oh, God.I hope everyone out there stayed very
(51:02):
well hydrated. And on that note.Good night everybody.
You look like a hot RosieO'Donnell in it.
Welcome in everybody.It's the craft beer republic.
Thanks for drinking.Thanks for joining. I'm Greg.
(00:24):
I'm Joe.I mean, what was the wizard's name?
And Blades of glory.That's what you sound like. Oh, no.
It's the evil wizard. That's.Followed by, like, a kind of.
I just remembered.I have to leave. Yeah.
(00:44):
Then he tells the story aboutGary the Squirt. Oh, dear.
That's Flex everybody.They're at a bus stop in Tucson,
and Gary said, I got a third ball.Oh. He just keeps going. I'm sorry.
We could be halfway through theshow at this point.
He's coming from the show cut.It's just my my movie knowledge
(01:08):
and so excited to be joining us.I'm sure she's thrilled.
Oh, I'm gonna make you sound soofficial. Okay. I dare. You.
But after that, it's. It feels weird.The executive director of the
Utah Brewers Guild. Damn.So fancy sounding.
Also part of Beer Nerd radio.And, uh, we formally know her as
(01:29):
Miss Tipsy Socks.And now the Beerfest Queen.
It's Steph. Me Steph.It makes you sound like I know
things.I know it makes you smart and shit.
I know it's terrifying.Yeah, well, I always try to undersell
myself. Damn it! That's all of us.We're such self shitters.
Uh, I have a model that hangsabove my front door that just
says expect less.So Shitters would imply that
(01:52):
from Walmart.I just want to let you know that.
Oh, well. Know myself from Walmart.It'll be beer.
Just so you know, the Walmart,Walmart, brewers package or whatever.
The brewers. Suck. Yeah. Oh, dear.Anyways, hey, thanks for joining
everybody at @Flex_me_a_beer.And maybe one of these days at
(02:13):
Miss Tipsy Socks again.Yeah, we'll be back.
She'll be back. I'll be back.Yeah. Can't stop the socks.
Go, go follow beer nerd radio in themeantime. Sure. Yeah. How about that?
And shout out to our top listeners,Steve. Last week.
Playa Vista, California. Oh, my.I sat on my hood ish.
Sounds like a vista pool. Okay.You mean beach? Vista beach? Yeah.
(02:36):
Playa piscina is pool. Damn it!Yeah. It's fine, it's fine.
It's down near LAX. So lax.Black. What? Up down there?
Uh, so what you get today?What is that happening in
Fayetteville?I had to get a win right there.
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Chuckle the clown over there. Yeah.How'd that work out for you, Sheena?
Uh, stay tuned for your Spanishlesson by Senor Flex coming up later.
Uh, all right,before we get into anything, let's
let's ask some important questions.In a world where craft beer is king.
A world where muscles are biggerthan growlers.
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Only one tongue can guide us.One man, one tongue,
one Tongue-jobber.In this world, we must find out
what is flax drinking?So here's a terrible story. Oh.
Another one. It's all I have. Um.Well, so I didn't want to do this,
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but I like doing it.And Greg loves that.
I do my favorite.I take my kids beer shopping with me
Mm. To the local, uh, liquor market.And, uh, they like picking out fun
beers with fun canard and fun names.And there's this beer that I've
been putting off for weeks now.Some would say months.
(04:08):
Wait, how long has it been in yourpossession? Oh. A day. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Like I finally like in. Yeah.I finally bit the bullet today.
Gave in, and, uh.My youngest daughter, she's eight.
Uh, she saw this beer. She's 32.I hate that she can read now.
Oh, damn. Damn. Kids are too smart.I tried so hard to keep that
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from happening. Yeah.She saw this can,
and it was called Teddy Bear Kisses.And it has this really kind of
adorable teddy bear.And he's got some rips and he's
sewn up a little bit.I don't know if you can really
see it.Oh, a little bit, but it's pretty.
It's pretty adorable.Why is writing so evil, though?
(04:53):
You know, because he's like, uh,maybe he's like an evil teddy bear.
I don't know. See?No, not even an eyeball.
He's got some claws.I've never seen a teddy bear claws.
This is a beer I don't normallyget because I'm a haze boy.
Greg knows this. Yeah. You are.Uh, this is a big, bad, uh,
bourbon barrel aged imperial stoutwith cacao and hazelnut extract.
(05:16):
Oh, that'd be. Awesome.Um, I guess I don't know.
I just want someone to brew a realsugary beer and just name it Wilford
Brimley. Yeah, with tons of oats.How old was he? 85. 88?
Yeah, we looked at. I was like, 80.I was gonna say seven.
So somewhere in there? Yeah.He lived here in Utah.
(05:37):
He was a Utah boy. Oh, damn.But we decided that I'm gonna get,
uh, diabetes because you live long.Called it.
You pronounce it incorrectly.I'm sorry. Uh, back to the beer.
Um, so I had looked up the wrong beerearlier. This is from Upland Brewing.
Brew brewing? Upland Brewing company.Not to be confused with Downland
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Brewing Company.And they're out of Bloomington,
Indiana. So some Midwest shit.Uh, Zach should be psyched about
this. Hey, Zach. Uh, ten. Oh.I'm sorry. 12% ABV.
I definitely looked up the wrongbeer. It's 12%. Uh, 5000 check ins.
406 on the. Uh. Oh overall. Yeah.So I looked up the wrong beer,
(06:26):
I told you. Three. Eight. Five.Yeah, the wrong beer on tap reads.
You're the worst. Right, man? We.We made our teddy bear kisses
Imperial stout even more cuddlyon the palate by aging it on
bourbon barrels for six months,imparting hints of bourbon.
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The aroma is a burst of darkchocolate with tinges of roasted malt
and rich molasses, as well as oak,vanilla and English toffee.
Slightly sweet with bold chocolateand dark caramel flavours, which
are complemented by subtle hints offruit that evolve from additions of
caramel malt and molasses molasses.It's just like you should say,
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molasses. So on the nose here.Mm. Very sweet. Very sugary.
It's like a like a chocolate shake.So what I smell chocolate shake.
This does not look like a chocolateshake. It's pretty black.
The old Tongue-jobber here.Didn't warm it up as much as it
did last week. No, no. It's good.It's nice when you squish it.
That's all. Yeah. That's good.I didn't swish it.
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You don't like swishing?Stouts for sure. I didn't swish.
It. I didn't mean to swish it.It'll be exactly like you just did.
So go ahead. But I didn't.Switch it, so, um, I don't know.
It's, uh.It's like picking on me again.
Well, but I didn't switch it,so I don't know why she's saying
(07:54):
I switched it because I didn'tswitch it. So she's just wrong.
It's. It's stupid. It is.She sounds stupid because she's
saying I did something that I didn't,and it's stupid. I'm sorry.
I apologize for noticing thatyou switched it.
I'm not even gonna switch it now,because I'm not going to give you the
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satisfaction of switching because I.Didn't do it. You can stop yourself.
It was a big sip. That's what it was.It was a big sip.
And I expelled the error fromthe big sip. All right.
So maybe that looked like Iswitched it, but I just expelled
the air from the big sip becausemy cheeks got big and I went.
Oh. That looks like a swish.Anyway, how's that beer? It's good.
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It's it's a it's a it's a it's a goodbeer. I guess it's like, uh, sweet.
It's chocolatey.Um, if there's any kind of,
like, fruit notes, it's like,uh, figs or some shit.
I would think, like, sweeter,sweeter, uh, fruit.
Uh, maybe a little hints ofcaramel on the back end.
I don't get a lot of oak. Um.It's probably for the best. Yeah.
(09:02):
Let me just, I don't know,one more time. Just one. More.
Just a regular sip, as I. Say.Sapped before seeing. Sap.
That's one. Sap sucked.I said that to be funny. Shut up.
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Did you see it? Did you see?Switched it. Total switch.
There was no. How do you guys drink?Not like. That. That's how I did it.
All this is being cut out. You know.This is my two week notice.
(09:48):
She wouldn't even be here in twoweeks. I'm done. Neither will I.
It's just bullshit. I'm sorry.I try not to be hated everywhere
I go. It's failing.It's a fine beer for people who
like big, uh, big stouts.It's good. It's not boozy at all.
I guess that's the big shock fora 12%. That is shocking. Shocked.
(10:13):
Shocked. Uh, yeah, but it's good.It's good.
So I guess I never even heard ofupland. Well, good job, Flex's kids.
Yeah, thanks. Uh, daughter.Daughter number two. Yeah.
Uh, anyways.All right, let's let's talk
about some some drinking. Yeah.I feel like whenever Stetson is
when I talk most about, like,my classy wine drunk.
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I don't know why. True.I mean, I talk about it here and
there, but, like stepson.It's a it's a weekly occurrence.
Oh, see, it's not just me.Why am I getting blamed for things
like I'm Flex or something?I'm just trying to not make you feel
special. Ouch. Sorry, sorry, sorry.Did you stub your toe? Yeah.
That was my thumb. That was real.That was mean. Yeah.
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But you probably swished it.Uh, we had our wine pickup party
that I told Flex.I told you what was going to happen.
Where?It's in Malibu,
overlooking the water. Yes.You sent me pictures. Yeah.
Wine pickup party with tacos andbeach view. It's fantastic.
Uh, got pretty hydrated.Nah, it's a great tacos. Good time.
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I was just going to ask.Super solid taco guy. Yeah.
I mean, we talked about before.They have a great taco person,
and we contacted the taco personbecause they're so good.
We cannot afford their taco person.We're keeping our taco person.
Steph, do you have a taco person?Like, personally? Yeah.
Just for myself.But like, whenever we have a
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party that needs tacos,we have a taco guy that we call.
So they come over and they makefresh tacos.
This has to be a California thing.That's are called immigrants.
We pay them handsomely.No, we I mean, we have lots of,
like, taco trucks and tacostands by we've never seen.
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It's weird that I have a tacoguy is my phone.
Is weird because he's very strange.Every person he knows has a taco guy.
How many people do you know?Like six.
Okay, well,I don't have a lot of friends.
Well, it's. A. Lot of tacos. Flex.And I don't have a taco guy, so.
No, I don't want his number.He's really good. Very affordable.
Third of your friends don't havea taco guy. You're missing out.
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No, I have friends who makegreat tacos because I live close
to the southern.I mean, you're in California,
you have great Mexican food.But, yes, the best.
I don't have a taco guy. Oh.All right, we'll have a taco.
And our wine owners,people have a taco person. And, uh.
I would expect wine owners tohave a taco. Person. Yeah.
I mean, they live in Malibu.Expect them to have, like.
(12:49):
Live in Taco. I'm sorry.Yeah, I would expect them to
like taco people.Not like taco person. Yeah.
I mean, there were there waslike three people there.
And you call the guy and he comeswith his whatever, his crew,
and he has a. Crew, so he.Like, got. It like a caterer.
Like he works in the kitchen.I mean, it's not. No, no, no.
Like he brings everything.He brings his little taco
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situation where he cooks the meat.Yeah, like a taco tent.
I hope that's what he.He's got his pop up tent.
And this. Is the taco. Situation.Yeah, this happens at someone's home.
So, yeah, this happens.So, like, we'll have birthday parties
and we'll hit up the taco guy,and he comes over, and I'm just.
How much do you make a year?Like at least $7.
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I mean, you're living high onthe hog over there.
He's got five wine memberships.There is a transcontinental.
There is a. Taco guy around here.Oh, okay. You know that I know.
Do you know his phone number?I don't, but my sister in law's
husband does because one of his highschool best friends is friends with
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him. Or he's his taco guy by proxy.You have a taco guy.
So if I really wanted to,I could get a taco guy.
What's his minimum order? Like two.Because Greg's taco guy is probably,
like, 50.No, this guy's by, like, the day.
Like you pay for the day.You pay him hourly.
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And he does everything.My taco guy,
you tell him how many people aregoing to be there and everything.
Does he swish his beer aroundbefore he swallows it? Yeah.
We're done here.Move on from the taco guy. Yeah.
My taco guy.You tell them about how many
people will be there,and he charges you accordingly.
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And then there's always leftovers,which are the best,
because in the next day,you just throw all that leftover
taco meat into some eggs are so goodwhen you're hungover. Yep. I agree.
I'm unaware of the leftover situationhere. Oh, it's such a good situation.
You don't like, you don't leaveleftovers or you don't like. Them.
With the third party taco guy.Pay attention to the conversation.
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Greg means when you take yourfood with you, you know there's.
Specifically.Leftovers from the taco. Guy.
There's always taco guy leftovers.So because when you hire him to
be your taco guy.He always there's always leftover.
And he always here's here you go.Here's your leftover.
Like he'll ask like, hey,can you send me, can you give me
some Tupperware so I can load it up?And you get all the the
leftovers the next day whenyou're hungover is shit.
(15:22):
You just dump them in a pan withsome eggs and cheese. Boom.
That sounds amazing, actually.That sounds fantastic.
Well,why would it not sound fantastic?
Exactly. Anyways, where were we?Why am I feeling so hurt?
All of a sudden?Because you don't have a taco guy.
You should. You need a taco guy.I'll send you his number. Okay.
Thank you. Yeah.Anyway, so why didn't Taco it happen?
(15:44):
It was great. No.I feel attacked for having a
taco guy. Yeah. You shouldn't.You should feel very, very lucky.
You should feel. Privileged.Have their own taco guy.
Some of us are starving.There are starving children in Utah.
And you have your own taco guy.I mean, he doesn't live here.
I feel like if there was any state,I would think that not starving kids,
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it would be Utah. Not starving kids.Yeah. Why? Well, Mormons.
Yeah, but they have too many.Yeah, but they got a lot of food.
That's a weird stereotype, but.Okay. I don't know.
Too many wives to feed. Yeah. Yeah.Man, I could go for a sister.
Wife. Damn. Yeah. So. Yeah.So tacos, anyhow. Arrives.
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I don't know how to steer out ofthis storm, you know. Yes I do.
Let's find out what Stef is drinkingover there with a call to the pad.
Has fun adding Michelle.I won't. We are terrible people.
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Uh, I am drinking a kolsch, which isone of my favorite styles of beer.
Oh, same. I'm a crispy girl.You're a crispy boy.
I'm a crispy boy. Girl.I love a good kolsch.
And it has to be done well.And, yeah,
I'll take it over your standardlager or any of the other stuff.
Yeah, I love a good kolsch,but sometimes I've had a kolsch that
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wasn't really a kolsch and I yelledat for calling it a kolsch anyway.
It's a kolsch style.Because it's like champagne.
You can't call it champagne ifit's not from the region.
As long as you use the kolsch yeast.Okay.
Anyway, so this one's from BohemianBrewery here in, uh, Salt Lake City.
It's not really a kolsch.This one is.
(17:40):
This one does not have coffee in it,so I'm not gonna get yelled at.
I love having coffee in my kolsch.I do too, but apparently it offends
some people when I say, oh, I lovethat coffee kolsch. They're like.
I did a whole coffee kolsch collab.You did?
Yeah, I thought you said that.I thought, yeah, I thought you were
talking shit. Yeah, no I should.There's a brewery here.
That once a year you weretalking to Craig and not me.
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So you weren't talking shit.That makes sense. Swisher calls you.
Bitch. That's right. Let me.It doesn't matter what it smells
like, but let me swish it around mymouth and tell you how it tastes.
That's how it's done, right,Flex. I wouldn't. Know.
Wouldn't you, though?We're just gonna. At some point.
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I wouldn't. Uses.How's that beer? It's delicious.
It's crispy. It's delicious.I have lost track of what I was
saying. I don't have an untapped.So I can't give you all the stats.
It's fair of my beer.Because first of all,
when you swoosh.It's like you go like, cheek to
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cheek, right? So you're like.It's not mouthwash. That is proper.
No, but that's what you swish.That was like.
And that is how you swish.You go like cheek to cheek.
Whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh. Right.I did not do that with my beer.
I did not do it with my beer.Thank you very much.
Some people, including some.People, did not swish and.
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Deflate the entire. Yep.That's what you. Did? Yep.
Mom and dad, they're fighting again.Yep. Get in the fucking closet, Greg.
Bye, guys. Then pull it together.Okay. I do not have an untapped.
This is a crispy kolsch.It's very traditionally kolsch.
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It is a traditional kolsch.It is. There is no coffee in it.
There are fruit flavors.I do enjoy a coffee. Kolsch.
But this is not it. This.This is a kolsch. Kolsch.
Once again, I feel attacked forthe coffee. Kolsch. But yeah.
I there's a brewer here thatmakes the best coffee. Kolsch.
But I got asked about it.Oh, the words dude.
(19:52):
My gosh, was the best coffee kolsch.Did you? You yourself made a coffee?
I collab with a brewery who willgo unnamed because now they're
they've joined the dark side.But back when they weren't,
we had a we did a collab as acoffee kolsch and it was delicious.
We collab with the local coffeeroaster and uh oh. So good.
That's in there.Two flavors that just go well
together so it makes sense.It's fine.
(20:15):
Coming to the now I get it.Whenever I try to do collabs,
I try to get, you know, make themdifferent and Can't get the net.
I'm sorry I give the worst beerreviews on your show because I'm
just like, it's beer. It's good.I'm gonna swish it around in my face.
You're being attacked by someguy in Wisconsin.
(20:37):
It's called the cuvée. Oh, dear.It's. Yeah. You're so right.
I'm gonna tell Mom and Dad.I thought we were. We are.
We wait. No, no. You're confused.You're the kids that are fighting.
Who's clearly who's in charge?I don't know. Not me. Nobody.
(20:58):
Inmates or anything. All right.It's a free for all. Yeah.
We'll move on and see what orderwe can keep. Uh Flexy. Yeah.
Do any beer lately? Uh.Not much. Um, no.
Don't ask me about your research,Greg. Okay.
I'm not making it out much.Okay. Steph. Yo! Hey.
(21:18):
Do you need, uh, beer?research lately or.
Anything as far as,like tasting research? Yeah.
Just hit any new breweries or newdrops or. No, I think it'll happen.
I think the last time I,the last episode I was on,
I told you guys, I just try to Plinythe Younger for the first time.
But that's really about asresearching as I've gotten lately.
How about you? What about you, Greg?Have you done your research?
(21:40):
I told you, man, I'm.I'm all about that wine life these
days. That's right. Fancy pants.Classy. Classy drunk. No. I've been.
I've been drinking whiskey alittle bit lately, so.
I know part of the reason I've beendrinking so much wine and seltzers,
to be honest, is, uh, you know, thefigure? Yeah. Yeah. I just I don't.
(22:00):
Yeah. Beers are very filling.I've been doing the.
I've been doing similar.Uh, with the seltzers. Yeah.
I don't sound so bad for a beerpodcast.
I don't do a ton of beerdrinking at home anymore.
I this is gonna sound bad comingfrom a beer professional who gets
paid to do like two different,three different beer jobs.
(22:21):
I don't drink much beer at home.Yeah, I will go out and do a little
research here and there, but likethe at home stuff doesn't happen
very much outside of this show.Yeah. What's wrong with this?
That's because I don't havefriends actually come over.
This is the only when I drink a beerat home, it's usually with friends.
And I've lost £13 since January.Holy shit. Yeah. Wow.
(22:42):
That probably didn't.That is impressive. Real stuff. Yeah.
Wow. Good job. Are you eating. Right?Yeah. Just, uh. It's like seltzers.
Uh, Tuesday through Sunday andthen beer on the podcast.
Oh, my God, you guys,what's wrong with all of us?
This just became the worst podcastever. Yeah, I don't think.
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Next up is our AARP cards.Also, this beer show is about
how none of us drink beer.Brought to you by truly.
We I got I I'm looking at beerright now on my fridge.
There's beer. I'm drinking beer.I was at a beer festival and I saw
there was a vizzy tent, and theywere selling things that said,
I love beer. And I was like, but.You're not even.
(23:26):
All you're pouring is busy.It doesn't. Okay. How's that work?
They got antioxidants.Must have been the booze or
something. Whatever they are now.It was one of those big Beerfest
where everything's brought to you by.Oh, yeah. Mike's hard.
Mike is hard. Yeah. Damn it!We did one of those Beerfest, like,
local ones where it wasn't big,but they got donations.
(23:46):
And clearly one of the localdistributors had just donated a
bunch of kegs,and nobody knew what they had.
And there was like, oh, your randomshit that no one cares about.
Some Ballast Point, some or whatever.And they did have a keg of Pliny
and they had no idea what theywere pouring.
Yeah,and they were giving full pours.
And so I was like, hey,friends who know what we're drinking.
Anybody who wasn't blind.Oh my God. That's insane.
(24:10):
Yeah, that was good times.The girl porn was like, oh,
you guys must really like this.I'm like, yeah, you know.
We don't see it on tap all the time.We have.
A couple brewers select, but.What is. Come on. What is?
People are dumb. So anyways.All right little, little news.
Before I tell you what I'mdrinking over here.
Well, do you think people thatgo to Beerfest,
(24:32):
do you think they all know or, like,into beer or they're just like,
I feel like it's. A good split.Like drinking. Good show.
I mean,I go because I want to try new shit,
and I also want to catch a good buzz.But I think there's also a lot
of people who are like, it's.Beer and it's all you can drink.
That's what I was thinking, right?I think it's I, I really do
think there's a good split.Uh, actually, one of my
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girlfriends that's a head brewer.She was. I was at the festival.
Uh,I can't talk a festival this weekend.
And she was a long festival, and Iwas like, how'd it go after I left?
And she's like, well, nobody puked,so that's a good thing.
And I was like,does do people do that?
And she's like, oh yeah, Where areyou? And I'm, like, not puking.
Yeah, I wouldn't think thathappening there. Uh oh. No.
(25:19):
I mean, we have plenty of.You get served plenty at a beer
festival, but I was in at Greattaste of the Midwest, and, like,
I don't know, five minutes into it,some guys puking on the side of
the sidewalk.Where are you fucking pregame
Jesus doing?Because in Wisconsin they pregame
everything. Like pregame the pregame.It is a thing that happens here.
Yeah, I've poured a Beerfest andI'll agree, it's pretty split.
(25:42):
The funny thing was, I wasn'tactually working for the brewery.
I was just helping out.And you'd get the guys who were like,
you know, IPA dorks,and they come up like, oh yeah,
what hops are you using in this?Like, I didn't fucking make the beer,
dude. I don't know the green ones.I'm that guy, though.
Like, I'm, I'm very interested in.And I get it. I am to that aspect.
If I know, I will absolutely tellyou. But you were just boring.
(26:05):
I was just festivals becausethey're big.
You're getting beer poured toyou by someone who's like a
volunteer volunteer.I'd been asked by the actual brewery,
I should have known a little bitmore.
They should have given me moreinformation.
Yeah, but, you know, I was like,you know, I don't know,
but I know it's, you know,it's West Coast style with notes
of whatever, like. Yeah.And the funny thing is you get
the people like, yeah,this isn't this isn't very good.
(26:25):
I'm like, all right.Once again, did not make it.
So don't feel obligated to drink it.I'm not gonna cry if you dump it.
Yeah.It's just really not a good IPA.
Like.Yeah,
I heard you the first three times,homie. Yeah. You know, it'd be cool.
Is it Beerfest where the brewers pourthe beer for you? That'd be cool.
Yeah. Wait, I have one of those.Oh, tell us about it.
My Beerfest in Utah.That's coming up.
(26:47):
Our brewers pour their beer thatthey make. It's amazing.
It's like an educational eventand a party. All. In one once.
Oh, and no puckers. We'll see.Don't jinx. It. No promises. Yeah.
I mean, plenty of beer to be.I would love for you guys.
To get on a trip to Utah right now.What is it? It's in May, right?
(27:08):
Yeah, It's May 10th, Flex.Are you busy?
I said I'd spot you guys ticketsif you got here. Probably busy.
It's Mother's day weekend.Bring your wife.
Every mom wants a beer festival.Yeah, especially Flex his wife.
She loves beer. Oh, yes.The biggest fan of.
She's waiting for that Walmartpack to drop right now.
Fan of the beverages.And some cocktails and some beers.
(27:32):
And, I don't know, one yearsomebody made snow cone beers,
and they were fucking delicious.Everything she still doesn't like
because it has alcohol inside of theliquid. I'd rather have any beers.
We actually, we don't have too many.And this year I was hoping we'd
have a couple, but I don't thinkwe have any. Honestly, I thought.
Maybe. There was any. No.What am I doing here?
(27:58):
My time with you makes me feellike everything's in a real
sober and painful. All right.Keep drinking. Just kidding.
I love you like some kids.All right, if anybody wants to
sponsor my my plane ticket outto Utah, I'd like to go to this
festival. Gofundme.com.I would actually, seriously,
genuinely.I've had a couple of our little,
(28:20):
like, influencer community friendscome out to our festival before,
and they said they had a great time.All right. I'll talk to the wife.
Do it. Come on now.We have to go to Florida at the
end of May. Yeah.Oh, I'm not looking forward to this.
Saint Pete. That's a good point.Bad, actually.
Yeah, that's all right.I was like,
at least let's go to Miami.So we hang out with Vanessa or
something.I was like, no, we're going to Saint
(28:40):
Pete, which is like four hours away.So it's a nice area.
Yeah, it'll be nice.This is the first and hopefully
last time I'm going.What are you going for?
Some family members,high school graduation. Oh, it's.
Not even a real thing. You should.You're flying for a high school
graduation. Not by choice.That's crazy. Mm. I'm just gonna.
(29:02):
Put that out there. That's crazy.Is this like a immediate family
member of your wife?Somehow of the wife? Yes. Okay.
There's a nephew. That's a long.That's a long trip for a high school
graduation. I can't underscore.You're just correct. You are.
Like a whole week out of it. Mhm.Extended weekend. Oh, that's. Yeah.
(29:24):
That's like a what is that,a five hour flight. Six hour flight.
It's five. It's five there.It's like five there.
And five and a half on the way back.I was gonna say it's shorter on
the way there. Right. Yeah.From west to east.
It's always faster. Yeah, exactly.So, uh, the good news is I've
already gotten some beer recs from,uh. Vanessa. Vanessa and husband.
(29:44):
They're like, oh, we we got allthe beer breweries for you.
They're good because I'm goingto need them. I love those, too.
I have to say, I'm pretty sadthat everybody's hanging out in
Florida right now except us.They always try to get me to go
out there for every fest.I'm like. It's fun.
Although I'm like, why is everyonedrinking stouts in frickin Florida?
Oh my God, that's like thefucking Firestone Festival.
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First weekend of June in Paso Robles.It's always 113 degrees.
I'm like, hey,who wants a barrel aged quad?
Nobody. Fuckers. Nobody wants this.Yeah, one of our breweries got
invited to that one this year andthey're all pumped. But I'm the same.
I'm like, why are we just.Gil, give me a pilsner. Yeah.
Who's your brother?Got a blow for a pale?
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The worst. Yeah.I've only been to one Firestone.
And and look, it was good in thesense that it was big.
Lots of breweries are invite only,but I don't need stouts when
it's 110 out. It's odd.Florida loves their. Stuff.
I don't need them when they're20 degrees out. Same.
But I like to taste them.But I don't want I don't want a
16oz of stout. Except. For.Teddy bear kisses. For. Brew.
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In case Flex daughter is listening,it's the best beer he's ever had.
Oh, that's really cute.I would have went into, you know,
the description, but it's good.I think you did go in the
description.No, no, no, I said it was good.
I think we got derailed by this.Wishing we may have.
Everybody's listening to whatswishing is because I cut most of it
out. The drinking is what she meant.We're gonna have a separate.
(31:15):
We're gonna go live at some point.Oh, gosh.
We're gonna take a poll to seeif Flex is swishing. Just drink.
I'm gonna pull the video foreveryone. No! Swish!
We will do a pull up.I'll pull the video,
see what people say.Uh, all right, a little news
before we get up on here.California distillery is taking
on New York over their shippingrestrictions.
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A Los Angeles craft spiritsproducer has taken on the entire
state in a federal lawsuit filedlast week challenging direct to
consumer shipping laws prohibitingdistillers in California from sending
spirits to customers in New York.The complaint, filed by the obscure
distillery in the US District Courtfor the Southern District of New York
comes less than a year after New YorkDistillers and Ciders celebrated
(31:58):
a bill, making New York the ninthstate to allow direct to consumer
shipments within its borders.I remember that. Thank you.
But the new law has some caveats,including that out of state
distilleries can only ship to NewYork consumers if their home state
offers reciprocal privileges.Sounds dirty, to the plaintiffs
(32:19):
dismay. California does not.By allowing in-state distilleries
privileges that out-of-statedistilleries don't have,
the complaint argues.New York has created an unfair
trade barrier, violating theConstitution's Commerce Clause,
which prevents states fromgranting privileges to in-state
businesses over out-of-state ones.I mean,
it's just courtesy at that point.I agree. Yeah. Get what you give.
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Just can we get rid of theseprohibition era laws and start
shipping where the fuck we want?God, that would be so nice.
Wouldn't it be nice?Just doesn't make sense.
No it doesn't.There's all kinds of weird
distribution laws all over thecountry that I don't understand.
Maybe I want some beer from Utahor some beer from.
No, Nobody wants that.First of all, Steph has given me
(33:02):
some from Utah and it was delicious.I've had beer from Utah and.
I know we've talked about it fromyour like, uh, airline friend.
Yeah. Yes. Uh, we.Have Tom Nardo DiCaprio as I
refer to him. There you go.Just your whole Flex. I'm.
I'm joking. Uh, yeah. No.I've been. I don't know, you guys.
(33:26):
Have you guys heard about all the.Here's some beer news?
Oh, uh, Florida and Texas areboth trying really hard to get
their laws changed because theycannot self distribute.
So they are both campaigning hardto be able to self distribute,
which is crazy to me as I watch,like a local brewery owner put a
bunch of kegs in the back of hispickup truck to like drive right
to the neighborhood pub likeSelf-distribution.
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I know it's tough for breweries,but it's my favorite. It's amazing.
Utah would not survive without it.Like, we almost everybody here.
That's how they get their beerout there.
I mean, these are small businesses.They don't have money to hire the
big distributors all the time.And so especially if you're
delivering to the pub,that's two doors down.
Like, why should I have to pay adistributor? Right.
I can just walk it down.Best thing I've ever heard.
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The best is if you own multiplelocations and you have to get a
distributor to distribute your beer.To your own location.
Yeah, I've seen that before.It's so stupid.
So you think Utah is crazy?Go to Texas and Florida and
apparently Georgia. Georgia? Yeah.A lot of fucked up post
(34:30):
prohibition shit.All right, before I talk about this
story, I'm about to run out of beer,so I should probably mention it now.
Greg. I got this beer.
(34:54):
I think this is the first oneI've had from these guys.
This is Bissell Brothers BrewingCompany out of Portland, Maine.
Here's to feeling good all the time.Is the name of the beer. 7.8%.
It's a double IPA.4.37 an untapped over 21,000 ratings.
(35:14):
Wow.It says I've been known to have
a few beers.Then again, I've been known to
do a lot of things.That is the entire description.
That's how it should be. I love it.You said Bissell. Bissell. Bissell.
Brothers like things that suck.Yeah, like the vacuum man.
That was a brave move on their part.Right.
(35:35):
I'm assuming it's the last name,but who knows?
Uh, I wouldn't call this hazy.I'd call this unfiltered.
It's like. Jesse. Lacing is.Lacing is sexy. It's there.
It's like a boudoir photo.A lot of lace all up in your face.
On the schnoz.I get mostly dank, uh,
(35:58):
piney notes and that kind of thing.Very, very Westie.
Uh, the tongue does not followfar behind.
It's real malty, which we allknow how I feel about that.
You know how I feel about that.It's got some. Great.
Yeah, it's got some great flavors,but the maltiness could serve to
be dialed back a little bit. Mm.Yeah. That, uh, shouldn't be a thing.
(36:22):
No, it's the tongue a little bit.I just wish it's a little cleaner.
There is definitely some yeastat the bottom of my glass. Yeah.
All right. It's fine. Doesn't suck.Four. Three. Seven. Feels generous.
Four. Three. Seven. Good God.I know Bissel is a bit of a hype
brewery. I don't know.Maybe it's because I got it from
(36:44):
Tavour.And, you know, they don't treat
their beers the what the best.I think they sit in someone's
basement or something.That's what I've. Heard. Yeah.
So is my basement.We'll have blame it on that.
No you don't.You would hate if somebody shipped
you beer. That's accurate. Please.You don't have to know your address.
Exactly. Uh. All right.A couple more stories we got here.
(37:06):
Cape Cod.We talked about breweries
merging last week.Cape Cod, hog Island Beer Company
is going to be acquiring MayflowerBrewing out there on the East Coast.
Damn it. We're just headed.For all these, like, Beeropolies.
Right? Hey, cool word stuff.Thank you. You're welcome. Hey, it's.
It's better than whatever hen housein Fort Pointe came up with last
(37:27):
week. Was it chicken in a fort?I don't know. Something like that.
Yeah. Cock Fort something I forget.Just be like Fort Coupe and just,
like, done. See, Fort Coop was good.Look at you being mature.
That's when the rest of us aren't.Uh, talking about Texas booze laws.
(37:47):
Uh, there's been some ups and downsin the spirits world in Texas.
A bill to sell spirit based rtds ingrocery and C stores passed through
the Senate late last week, and we'llmove on to the full Senate if passed.
Spirit Rtds under 17% could beon shelves in time for Texas
football season. Yeah.But on the other side of things,
(38:10):
meanwhile, in Colorado.That's raising cattle.
A new liquor laws put a stop tospirit sales in future grocery
and big box stores.The law came in response to the
expansion of wine and beer salesin larger channels,
which hurt independent liquor stores.Now, the number of grocery stores
able to sell liquor in the state willremain capped at 36. That's so weird.
(38:34):
Only 36 grocery stores can sellliquor. That's weird. That's weird.
Weird. Cal or Calvin?Colorado is is fairly
progressive in a lot of things.Not their booze laws.
That's really because you know why?Because Colorado is beer country.
They got the they got the likethey're one of the beer mafia states.
(38:54):
They don't.They have the most breweries.
No, we've been through this.California? Yes, California.
But I think Colorado's second.Colorado has a. Lot. Yeah.
Colorado's a town.Um, music and breweries.
I don't know if Steph has to dealwith this kind of legality stuff.
Is this new Jersey? It's not.Because I know they've had issues
with it, so no one's fine over here.We love you, new Jersey. Oh, wait.
(39:17):
Unless it's the, uh,the licensing. Here we go. Yeah.
Now you're on to it.The Brewers Association has submitted
comments to the US CopyrightOffice expressing members deep
dissatisfaction with the use ofperforming rights organizations.
Pros which license copyrighted music.The Copyright Office has issued
a notice of inquiry for pros.The BHA noted that pro pricing
(39:37):
makes no economic sense for smallbusinesses like brewpubs and
taprooms, that are required to obtainthe licenses for only a few events
versus year round music venues.The trade group wrote the high cost
of the current system increasinglymakes music a yes no question for
small and independent breweries.Many of our members report that
they have stopped offering musicto their guests due to the high
(39:58):
cost of pro fees and the threat oflitigation and Copyright Act damages.
I didn't know about this until acouple of years ago, but like
just to play music in a brewery,let alone have someone like a
cover band playing songs that arecopyrighted, you have to have like
three different licenses for this.It's insane actually. And they will.
They'll call you a thousand times.Yeah.
And they'll send you cease anddesist letters and sue you.
(40:20):
And they'll try and send you,like, invoices and shit.
Yeah, I've heard saying.I've heard of ASCAP just sending
invoices to breweries before. Yeah.It's it's it's it feels very
threatening when they call youover and over and over again.
What I don't understand is whydoes the brewery need the license
and not the person singing it?Um, well, it doesn't matter if
you're if it's a musician orbecause the brewery is the one
(40:43):
making the money, I think.But you're paying the position.
Right.But customers are coming to the
brewery. Sure.So the whole thing is so weird.
I mean, I understand that somebody'sgot to get paid for something,
but this whole Mafia shakedown is.It's insane.
And I know the Brewers Associationhas been kind of trying the rest
(41:03):
to fight it off for breweries allover the place, but. Well, good.
Hopefully they hopefully something.I mean, maybe pay per event or
something for the smaller people.Just nonsense actually.
Like they're not making enough money,but they actually will track
your like Spotify usage.And if you're using a streaming
service in your brewery, there's away for them to track it so that.
(41:25):
Yeah. It's insane. It's awful.I think one of the I don't know
if it's Spotify, I think one ofthe streaming services does offer
like a professional level. Right?There is um,
I know like Sonos will do it.And I think there might be a Spotify
one, but I'm here to tell youthat the music selection is ass.
It is the worst.Just careless whisper on repeat.
(41:48):
Say you bite your tongue.Bite your tongue, Greg.
Never got to dance again. Keep going.No rhythm. It's easy to pretend.
And no, you're not a fool.Now we're gonna get sued. Great.
(42:08):
We're gonna get an invoice.Actually, Greg's getting an invoice.
It's not me. That song is amazing.It's not. It's actually a terrible.
Year, actually. Dumb.That was a great comeback.
I got a I got a good story aboutthat song.
We were hanging out with Nick andNicole and Wiley of the Booze League,
or whatever they call themselves now,and he has there. What's that?
(42:32):
Um, something.Tunes where you can play the
jukebox from your phone. Oh.That's an old you know what I'm
talking about.It's the something tunes and and
basically, if the brewery or the barhas it, you can instead of having a,
an old fashioned jukebox, you do itfrom your phone and you can like, pay
for credits on your phone and stuff.Oh, you could wait, wait, you can pay
for that shit on your phone. Yes.I had no idea. Yeah. That's right.
(42:56):
So anyways, we were just within rangeof this bar that he frequents a lot.
So that from his house he would onrepeat requests. Yeah. Whisper.
And he goes watch I do it.And so he do it.
And I was like,we need to find out for sure.
So I called the bar and I and Ijust did the whole like, hey,
how late are you open tonight?And she's like, I can hear tonight.
(43:16):
But as she answered before,she said, hi,
this is such and such bar. You're.Yeah, there's. It's. So. Good.
There's a lot of bars now thathave the little like jukebox
that you can just like. Yeah.And you don't have to be in the
bar to set it off.No, you can torture as many
strangers as you want. I don't.Know. I was dying.
(43:38):
I wish I was at a bar where somebodywas playing Careless Whisper on
repeat. I bet you do that.And, uh, never gonna give you a.
Hey, that's a good song, too.Isn't that the risk that you
just recklessly. Recklessly.So, uh, the numbers. Come to.
The numbers are in the 2024 top50 US craft brewing companies,
(44:00):
ranked by beer.Volume produced or sold in the US.
Sam Adams.Oh, they're always on their, uh,
top ten.I'm not going to go through all 50,
but top ten are number ten steps.Favorite monster brewery for brewing?
Excuse me. I'm angry. Yeah.You don't. You don't like count one.
I guess they count as even thoughthey're a conglomerate of breweries.
(44:20):
So they own, like,I don't even know how many.
They own a crap ton of brewery.They own ten.
I think they've closed four already.So they count as one.
I guess so that's bullshit.That's like saying my pinky toe
counts as all the toes. Right. It's.You don't have enough socks for that.
Yeah. Exactly.Uh, number nine, Brooklyn brewery.
Number eight. This makes me mad.Athletic Brewing company.
(44:43):
I hate that.There needs to be alcohol in it.
And it's so expensive.That I don't. Yeah. That's odd.
Have you ever been out in anestablishment? Yeah.
You've looked at their menu like,say, like you're at a restaurant
and you look at the domestics,you look at the imports, and then you
look at the owner's athletic brewing.And he is always just as expensive
(45:07):
as a regular craft beer.But do you know why?
I'm assuming I don't.Because they're expensive to brew.
I'm.I mean, I don't know if that's
what they're saying is the excuse,but they're expensive to brew,
so it depends on if you.Never mind. I don't know.
Because if you're brewing it,there are only a very few breweries
(45:29):
who brew so that it doesn't havealcohol in the beginning.
The rest brew restroom and thenremove the alcohol.
And it's like a big, long,expensive process, right?
Do you know what athletic is?Um, I think they remove the alcohol,
don't they? That was my guess.That's what I thought they did.
There.I think there are very few who
brew it in the beginning.So go brewing in Chicago.
(45:50):
I think they brew theirsoriginally without the alcohol.
Their their neighbor is actuallyreally good.
I've never heard of them.Um, they're really, really good.
Because of the couple I've tried.It seems like the ones that brew
it with alcohol and then remove itlater. Taste more like beer than the.
Yeah, never had alcohol.But it is a big it's a pretty.
From what I've heard.It's a pretty expensive process
(46:12):
to like remove the alcohol.Well they essentially like
vacuum it out.It's kind of cool to look into
if you ever want.It certainly does suck. Interesting.
That was for the Bissell brothers.Actually. It wasn't for suck cut.
Get a load of.This guy came for the sucker.
Actually, we always talk about,you know, a little bit of
(46:34):
Wayne's World while we're here.Actually, it's pronounced Milwaukee.
Exactly. Where was I? Oh, Athletic.Uh, number seven,
Matt brewing Company. Hey, Matt.Good one. Yeah. Number six.
Gambino's. Never heard of it.That's not a real word or a real
(46:55):
name. Sounds like a disease.They have a disease? Yeah.
I hear there's a cream for that.Doctor said I can't breathe this
shit, man. Sorry to hear. That.How long do you have to live?
Uh. Number five.Duval Moore got number four.
Tilray brands,which is another conglomerate.
(47:18):
So is Duval. Duval is Firestone.And, um, something else.
Uh, number three, finally, a realbrewery. Sierra Nevada. Number two.
I drink their beer. Yeah. Yeah.I'll drink a hazy little thing when
I'm getting dinner or something.Uh, number two,
Boston Beer Company. Classic.Which is so many different things.
Besides Sam Adams, it's Dogfish Head.They apparently have the number one
(47:42):
light lager, uh, in the country.Now, I didn't know.
That Sam Adams does. Yeah. Mm.And it's just called, like,
Sam Adams light lager. Creative.Like. Soon to be a Walmart.
Uh, then the number one top craftbrewery in the in the country,
which also not craft anymore.Yingling. Yeah. Not a fan.
(48:05):
I just I'm. Not. Okay. I mean.It's. Just bad. Like a basic lager.
It's just not a fan. Fine.I'll take it over at PBR.
I wouldn't. What about a PBR coffee?Oh, I wouldn't.
I've had a Yuengling, and, uh. Yeah.No, I just don't get it. I don't.
I've only had it once or three timesbecause I was on the East Coast,
and that's the only place Idon't find it.
(48:28):
I can't get Yingling here in Utahunless somebody brings it here,
so. Damn. But I can't even.I can't get it in Wisconsin.
Really? Yeah. That's weird.I found it everywhere in New Orleans.
So, like, random places, you'd thinkthat you could get it in Wisconsin.
So to Saint Louis last summer.And they had it in plenty there.
But you can't get it here inWisconsin.
(48:50):
Because you guys are part of the,uh, why can't I think of the
beer that you guys have?I don't know, everybody loves
what the cows come on down there.New Glarus, new Glarus. Yeah.
You're part of the New Glaruslike mafia.
They're not going to allow yousome mingling in there. What?
I'm not cows. Not even. Great.Well, that's not the point. Flex.
(49:13):
Swish that around in your mouth for aminute. Think about it. I don't I.
Did not bring that up again.I'm done.
And that was the end of that, man.I end a lot of shows. I'm sorry.
The last crappy Republic episodeever.
I've been fired from beer nerd radiolike ten times, but they haven't
(49:34):
changed the code, I just think.I believe I believe that,
though. I do. Like Milton.You just keep getting paychecks.
And I do have a red stapler,actually.
I told them if they take my stapler,I burn the place down.
I think it's upstairs.I do have that.
I have a swing line. It's red.It's fantastic. Of course you do.
(49:55):
It's a great stapler.Couldn't have it any other way.
All right, let's wrap things up.Uh, make sure you go out to
Steph's Beerfest. May 10th.May 10th in Salt Lake City.
The great beer mashup.It's gonna be fantastic.
Somebody sent me some money to flyme out. It's gonna be some ashing.
(50:16):
It's gonna be so much.Acting like you were almost the
aliens from a lawsuit.So much swishing will happen at
that event.Follow us on the socials at
@CraftBeerRepublic.@Flex_me_a_beer underscores in
between and of course, one of thesedays. Go check out Miss Tipsy Socks.
(50:37):
But in the meantime, go to BeerNerd Radio. Follow them. Sure.
853 beer 2337 mail@CraftBeerRepublic. Com Steph.
Thanks for making fun of us for twoweeks. In a row. You're welcome.
Thanks for letting me out.I just love you guys.
Yeah, we loved it. We love. You.Come back soon. But not to.
Try and stop me. Oh, God.I hope everyone out there stayed very
(51:02):
well hydrated. And on that note.Good night everybody.
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