April 10, 2025 • 33 mins
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#JaconMilan is a TikTok content creator and entrepreneurial influencer who has effectively leveraged social media to build a substantial following. Through his humorous astrology-themed videos, he has attracted over 720,000 followers on TikTok and more than 220,000 on Instagram. His engaging content, which playfully explores zodiac signs, has cultivated a predominantly female audience with high engagement rates. Milan's inspiration for his unique brand of comedy stems from his natural inclination to identify people's personalities based on their astrological signs. Encouraged by friends, he channeled this #astrological insight into his content, captivating a wide and enthusiastic audience. His passionate fan base eagerly supports his endeavors, solidifying his reputation as a leading figure for entertaining zodiac-related content and advice.
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#JaconMilan is a TikTok content creator and entrepreneurial influencer who has effectively leveraged social media to build a substantial following. Through his humorous astrology-themed videos, he has attracted over 720,000 followers on TikTok and more than 220,000 on Instagram. His engaging content, which playfully explores zodiac signs, has cultivated a predominantly female audience with high engagement rates. Milan's inspiration for his unique brand of comedy stems from his natural inclination to identify people's personalities based on their astrological signs. Encouraged by friends, he channeled this #astrological insight into his content, captivating a wide and enthusiastic audience. His passionate fan base eagerly supports his endeavors, solidifying his reputation as a leading figure for entertaining zodiac-related content and advice.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Welcome to another episode of Creators to Creators. Today, today
we have a very special guest, Jakal Lalan.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You're here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm so excited, Like I've been following you for quite
some time, and like your videos are always they just
bring me joy and they're so funny, they're so just
You're just so talented.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
But I always I am curious people of like that are.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Doing something at the level that you're doing it and
the efficiency, Like where did it all start?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Like, tell me a little bit about your childhood, what
was that?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Like have you always been funny or like what drew
you into that the comedy world?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Well, actually what drew me into this is I've always
been obsessed with television, with TV shows sitcoms, movies, things
of that nature. And I've also always been obsessed with astrology.
Now I've always been able to get a laugh out
of anybody. That's always been my thing. In my thing
(01:40):
that I'm known for is I'm able to make anybody laugh,
no matter where you come from, no matter who you are,
because I'm able to send something in somebody, you know
what I mean. So I just feel like this is
something that's been in me since a child.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
I just used to play with my cousins.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
And I would make them do movie roles and redo
movies with me.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
So I think that's where that came from.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I love that. I love that same for me. I
think for me it was like the same thing. When
I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I was always well, I was a bit of a loner,
and I was really obsessed with like I'm the baby
of the family, so I had to just I was
like in everyone's business, and my brother came home with
a camera and then I just started, you know, shooting everything,
and you know, being I was like, I want to
be a filmmaker, and so it just kind of, you know,
kept that trajectory. But I'm curious with you, like finding
(02:35):
that like that lane and keeping it going. Like was
it like after like high school or college or whatever
that you were like, I'm going to go full fledge
into this like creative world of social media and creating videos.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Actually it started during the pandemic.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I was a assistant manager at wingstop and I just
was in a very I wouldn't say low moment, but
I wanted to do more in life, and I knew
I had the chops to be able to entertain people,
but I didn't know what aspect that would be in.
And then came TikTok, and my coworkers was just like,
(03:19):
I'm always the guy who used to be like, Oh
you're in aris, that's.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Why you're like that, or oh you're a scorpio, that's
why you like that.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
And my people from my job was like, you should
do something with this, you should make funny videos or talk.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
So at first it would just be like me talking
about the zoac signs.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
But like I said, I'm obsessed with movies and TV shows,
so it developed into.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That nice Where was okay, So you started during the pandemic.
Did you kind of know like that your video was going.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
To like like I didn't explode or when when did it? Like,
what was the feeling when it did? When you started
to see like the numbers.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Okay, so it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
So when I first started, it took me like till
a hundred video, my hundred video to like really go viral.
And it was like a crazy moment because I never
expected it, Like my videos would do good, they would
get like two hundred likes, one hundred likes, you know,
one hundred and fifty likes. But when my videos start
going viral, it was because I started doing zodiacs signs
(04:17):
in the Bag Girls Clubhouse, and I started a series
off of that, and then I piggybacked off that and
just start doing everything. So it was how I felt,
was I just if I'm being honest, I felt like
I was finally vindicated. I finally felt like I was
seen and people appreciating my work.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah yeah, and I'm sure that feels so good too.
It's really hard to to navigate this industry, you know,
being you know, create the creative space because there's so
many people doing it, so you know, trying to find
your lane and your voices kind of gets hard to
(04:58):
and then you don't want to compete.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You just want to be yourself. But you know what
I mean, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
It's it's hard to not have a competitive mindset in
this entertainment industry because you do want to be the best,
and you do want people to understand.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
That you are trying hard.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
It's not a but you don't want to be competitive
because you know others are trying hard as well, so
you try to I at least try to support everybody
because I understand.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
What it takes to be a content creator.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, so how does walk me through like your day
in your world, like a content creation day?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Like what what is it?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What is the first thing you do uh top of
the day to like when you're like when you're in
your creative process.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Okay, So what I usually do is I'll start the
night before. So the night before I will go through
some sounds that I've heard on TikTok or some movies
that I want to kind of like implement, and I'll
like practice of the night before me just like practicing.
And then in the morning, I get up, I take
me a shower, I do my prayer, and I have
(06:06):
I'm in my content room right now, So I come
to my content room, lock myself in and I would
say from about eight thirty to probably sometimes five point
thirty pm, I'm in here creating content.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Wow, I mean see, how okay?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
So when I first started doing content, look, I tried
to look at it as a job because I was
used to working working a job, so I tried to
do a nine to five. But then it just this
is just something that's in me. Every day I get up.
This is what I do, you know, So I try
to look at it as a real job.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
You know.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
I don't want to hinder myself.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
And I understand that content creation can take over your
life as well. So I try to give myself time
to decompress and just you know, I find some more
content I.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Guess to do.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I love that, and I think that's it's so important
that it can become consuming and it isn't to have
a balance, you know, just like social media, like I
gotta post, you know. I have a social media manager,
and she's like, you got to post this day and
this day, got to tell people like what you're doing.
And I'm just like, I it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, it's a lot drive you crazy if you let it.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
And I've learned that because you know, just a vulnerable
moment here.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I go through with this content stuff. You go through
burnouts and depressions, and you even go through where you
just have writer's block or content creation block, where you
just can't think of the thing because you're pushing yourself
too hard. And the way I deal with that is
I do take a break, you know what I mean.
I've had times, and I do let my followers know too,
(07:42):
because I want people to be aware that content creation is.
While we do enjoy making people laugh and making people
have a the day, and sometimes it affects us mentally.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
And not in a bad way.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Because I'm not in a bad way as far as
like the comments or anything.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
For me.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's more so just I'm overworking myself and you start
to compete with yourself, and that's not good as well
sometimes because then you're always kind of telling yourself like
I could have did that better.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I can.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
So so sometimes it takes me what may be a
five second video that y'all seen, it takes me an
hour to do because I'm redoing it. I'm redoing it.
I'm redoing it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah no, and I and it's I mean, I get
I get it. You have to and it's it's it's
very quality. I mean, I gotta ask, have you ever
done acting before?
Speaker 6 (08:32):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
That is one thing that has propelled me to do content.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
That is my dream is to become an actor.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I would want to do that or be a TV
show host, you know. But I've always wanted to be
an actor. And one of my biggest dreams I'm speaking
it on your show right now, is that I will
be in one of my favorite slasher movies, like A
Nightmare on Elm Street or a or something like that.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
That is one of my biggest goals is to be
in one of them.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Even if I have to be unlive, I just want
to be in one.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Like so, I just that is one of my biggest goals.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
So, yes, I always wanted to do acting. I've always
been into acting. When I was growing up, I would
learn movies and redo the scenes and my mom would
make me doing it in front of her friends or stuff
like that.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
So I've always been into acting.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I love it, yeah, because I'm like the facial expressions,
the just how like each character.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I'm like, how that's so good? It's like you should
totally have your own show. It's so good. I'm like,
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Absolutely and yet absolutely your mouth to God's ears, it
will happen.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I mean, I love the you love Slashers, So that's good.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Well, yeah, what's.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
A and I love I love asking this question and
and and there is no wrong answer. But if you
could sit down and have a coffee date with anybody
living or dead, it could be an actor, a filmmaker, comedian.
Who would it be and what would.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You ask him on this coffee date?
Speaker 6 (10:11):
That's a good one. It would probably be I'll give.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You a dead and.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
An allowed one. So for a dead one, it would
probably be Malcolm X.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Because I've always been obsessed with his works in the
community as far as his approach to some things and
and his ideologies on some things. And I would also
just like to ask him, maybe if he could go
spend a day with me, what do he think he
(10:49):
was able to change? And what do you think that
he wasn't able to change? Uh, that's what a lot
of people don't know about a lot about me. I'm
very into my black leaders.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Yeah, Malcolm X and alive and alive. It will probably
have to be Eddie Murphy because he is one of
my favorite actors. He's He's one of the reasons why
I do what I do today.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I grew up on Eddie Murphy and I would just
want to ask him how does he get into that
mind to get into.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
All those characters. So, yeah, those are the two people.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
That's amazing. That's amazing. I love that. I would have
not I would have never pictured Malcolm X, but I
love it. That's amazing. I love that you're very like
you love the Black leaders.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And I feel that sometimes people can put people in boxes,
especially what we do.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
It's like, oh, that's all we do. So I'm sure
you've You've probably want to.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Branch out outside of zodiac at some point, you know,
but it is great. But I'm sure you know what
I mean, Like, I does that feel like pressure, like
finding something something else creatively to do as far as
like content wise, And I mean I was still like
not like stopping it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
But being able to like pivot to somewhere else too creatively.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
I love this question so much because this is something
that I've been pondering with for a while lately, and
I feel like a lot of creators ponder with this,
Like when you get deep into your niche where you
start to earn admiration and you get lights, comments, and
you even start to monetize off these things, you do scared,
(12:42):
you do get scared to veer away because you see
that it's not getting the same love or the same
push as uh, your other things. And that's a lot
of that's a lot of creators are dealing with this.
I am one, Like I said, I want to do
other things. I want to talk about things more, you.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And I feel like zodiac signs keep me in a
box to where I I am ready to escape out
of it, but not just erase it because it did
give me my start and I will always appreciate zodia
X signs, but it does make me feel stagnant at times,
and I want to show more of myself to my
audience and more of my personality. I feel like I'm
(13:27):
not able to show my personality with just the zodiac signs.
Of course, people see my funny and silly side, but
I also have other sides to myself. So yeah, I
do want to do different things.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I love that, well, like what's some things that you.
I mean, I don't know if are you working on
anything that you want, like to be different, that you're
trying to create lately or coming up soon that you
want to like, you know, I don't know, integrate into
your channel or channels.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yes, I am doing YouTube. So I am doing YouTube.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I love that. I mean, I think YouTube.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Is so hard platform. God, it's so hard and honestly
makes me uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. But yeah, it's
very hard. It's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, I feel like it's worth it.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I I you know, I think back in the day
when I I was like, okay this, I'm gonna probably
show my age right now, and back in like two
thousand and six, when when YouTube was really good. Back
in the time, I was getting exactly I mean one video,
it could be something simple, and I was getting like
(14:39):
one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, almost a million views,
like just rapidly, and I grew had a big channel
where it was monetizing. I was doing like short films
and little interviews and I would I would use YouTube,
and then all of a sudden my channel got taken
off and I was like what so it scarred me
because you know, you build such a channel and then
(14:59):
you know, you get.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Blocked or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You gotta these all these soviety rules you can't really
show certain things or content gotta be yours. Yeah, copyright
it's like what they may be kind impossible for you
to like grow.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Really Yeah, then then the heyday from I'm going to
show my age too?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
From what where? From?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I definitely get
what they're saying. Yes, Like I get that. It is
very hard, like and that's why it's been hard for
me for my channel because I get copyright strike because
I use the wrong music a lot, or I don't
have the consent of somebody and I use a piece
of their video, you know.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
So I'm learning that as my way as a YouTuber too.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, because because I'm always wondering, Like my question is,
how does some YouTubers get away with it and then
some don't.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I don't under exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I don't get that.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It's like, yeah, you know, it should just be that.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I feel like a lot of that is in social media.
They have their bias. It's on these apps where this
person can get away with it, but you can't so
I feel like that's that's on every app, honestly, and
I'm on every app.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
So I definitely feel like that. So that's on every app.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's a biases, right do you do you feel like
now with with I mean, I mean nowadays because TikTok
was was they took it off, they brought it back.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I don't really know what the reason was around it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But I was on TikTok for a little bit and
then I was like, I can't do TikTok.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I mean, I don't know how people do it all
the time because there's so many platforms, like I can
do Instagram it seems to be like my Pace, and
but TikTok, I hear it's like a really good app
because it you can blow up faster than I think
any other app, which I wonder why that is, but
(16:51):
it's it's.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I think what it used to be. Now the algorithm
is kind of wonky. But when but when I first.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Started getting on, I feel like they genuinely pushed your
content out and just to just to the people who
they knew what want to watch your content. I feel
like that's how I blew up so big on TikTok
because they genuinely was just pushing out content.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
You know what I mean. If it's good, it's good.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
If they're interacting with it, they're interacting with it now
so much.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Now it's kind of you.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Gotta work now. It's like you gotta work a little
bit now. But it's still more easier to get a
viral hit on TikTok than anywhere else. But I just
feel like, yeah, the algorithm was just algorithm, and you
know what I mean, it was really it was really
a good algorithm.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
And I just feel like if you had the personality
and you push it, and content.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Creation is about being determined and about repetitive action sometimes
and you just gotta keep going.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's what I feel so true. That's so true, you
have to keep going. So let's get into the zodiacs.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
I was like, now we're gonna now, so do you
have a favorite zodiac sign and one of your least
favorite zodiac signs?
Speaker 6 (18:19):
And what.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Well, if you ask all my followers, they would swear
my favorite zodiac sign is aries.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
And all my best friends have been aries.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
So I got the biases for Arias And like I
always say, when I do get on live and stuff.
If I could choose to be any Zota sign, it
would be Aries. So I would say Aries because Aries
just have this fiery personality that just draws me, maybe
because I'm a cancer and I'm so sensitive and the water.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Is just drawn to the scene, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
But Aries just do it for me and the signs
that every Okay, so every zo sign has.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Its place in its purpose. But if I have to
say a sign that I don't like, it would have
to be Gemini's.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And that's because for the same reason for Arias, but
different Geminis are. Gemini have always been my best friends.
Nobody can make me laugh like a Gemini, but nobody
has hurt me like a Gemini. Okay, nobody has hurt
me worse than a Gemini.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
And that's why.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
That sucks. Femini has hurt me real bad.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I'm sorry. Screw that gym.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
What's your favorite son? What's your favorite soigner?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
My favorite sign? That's a really good question. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I just honestly just got into this and I just
think it's so funny, like the stereotypes they give us.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And I mean, I get there's some truths to it.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
For sure, And that's why I try to shake it
up for y'all Aries, because they are just think y'all
so angry and stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
But I give y'all a love. I give y'all a y'all.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
They don't know y'all like I know y'all. Y'all not
just all want to beat up everybody.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Y'all. Listen, y'all love absolutely, thank you, thank you so much.
Like I feel like when we're healed, like I am thank.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
God, you know, I just I'm on, Like I think
we channeled that energy into like work and and drive
and it and it goes into that direction, like so yeah,
time I'm getting old.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, And you know what, my friend that's an area.
She's the same way she was back in the day.
She was typical Aries, but now she has a family.
You know, she's calm, cool and collective and she works hard.
So it's just like I feel like Aries give me
a little bit of Capricorn and how hard y'all work.
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Y'all are very hard workers. And that's why I'm drawn
to Aries, honestly, because I.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Don't know my favorite gotta be y'all. I love y'all
too I have a few cancers in my life.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Actually they're really great. Yeah, it's like four or five
and I don't know, I kind of and I'm not
gonna say this guy's name, but there is one guy
that I remember going out with and he was cool,
but then he just switched up.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I was like, oh man, I don't know what's what.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Was his fine?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Cancer?
Speaker 9 (21:31):
Okay, now I'm hurt. Now I'm hurt. Now Why I
always gotta be why always gotta be shocked?
Speaker 6 (21:43):
I was shocked. But you know what, we can be
a little bipolar.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Sometimes we can be you know, it's just because we
have so many emotions going on in us, you know
what I mean. He's never personal. It's really us dealing
with our own stuff. It's nothing personal. I always have
to tell people that. But that's funny because I always
say cancer the areas are better as friends than relationships.
I agree, because we're both we both are missing something
(22:06):
when we.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Get into a relationship.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
You know what I mean, It's like something is missing.
But I love you.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I agree with that. I want her to agree with that.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
They're gonna kill me. There are gonna kill me.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
They are they are, Oh my god, And I think
my favorite one has to be.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It was a sad but then I was like, wow,
very opinionated.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Like see why you as as were like Sagittarius is.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
As though we love them, but you know, and I
do love my Leos too, but I think both of them.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
I think both of them have different qualities.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I feel like Leo's like spotlight, which we don't really
care we I don't care about that, which is great.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I think we have regardless.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, y'all gonna get y'all, y'all gonna be noticed regardless
like Sio's gotta make it obvious. Y'all is like I'll
be noted regardless, and Sagittaries don't care either way it goes.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
So that's that's how it goes.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
When I love fire sounds, I really do, y'all know, y'all,
y'all are so fun. I love fire signs, but it's
just like it's like with water signs or with air signs.
We're all the same, but we can see the different qualities.
Once you get around them, you'll be like, Okay, oh
all right, I got it, got it, Okay, got it. Okay,
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that's how it be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I love that I love that. Have you ever thought about.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Making like a short film like with the signs and
like making like a little series of different like characters.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Yes, that's so you are? You are these questions? I
actually do.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I have a script made that I made three years
ago about the zodiac signs Robbin a Bank.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
It's a short thing and it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Every time I read it to people that like, oh
my god, you need to make it. But I kind
of wanted to. I kind of want to do it good.
So I've been trying to see how I want to
do it.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
But yes I have.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I Yeah, I think that would be so great because
I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Actually, you know, like, no, me either. I haven't short
film ones.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
No, I haven't seen anything like that, and I've looked.
I've looked just to make sure, but no, I.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Haven't seen anything like that with the Zodeac signs.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
And I feel like it would be something good. There
are a lot of zodiac sign creators and I feel
like it to make them, you know, be like, Okay,
if he can do it, I could do it. That's
how I look at a lot of people. I feel
like if he could do it, or she could do it,
or they can do it.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I can do it, you know what I mean. So
that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
And you know, that's what I like about your channel,
because you're right, there's a lot of people that do that,
like zodiac stuff, but I feel like the difference is
that I think you can kind of tell what somebody
is because they kind of favored one sign, and you're
just like, what about every other sign too? So it's
good that you're like giving, you know, because when I
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when I first saw your channel, I literally thought you
were Leo.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Really, everybody said that what gave Leo vibes? You what
I just was just a little confident, But.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
You just spicy. I love it. It's like very like that, Yeah,
you got that vibe. It's just fun.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Thank you. You're making me blood. Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
And that's why I was drawn to you, honestly, because
you show genuine support for my channel and you're just
you're just always making me feel like, Okay, at least
one area agreed with me, you know what I mean,
And we built a genuine relationship as far as like
we just really just understand each other, you know what.
(26:05):
I mean, and that's I'm telling you, that's that areas
in cancer bond.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
You're not gonna find nothing like that. I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I love it. So you have just to let people
know because you know, I got I got a brag
about you.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
You have what like eight hundred thousand followers on TikTok,
is that right or something like that.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
It's getting there. On TikTok, I have about okay, seven.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Thousand and twenty five k thankundown now. So yeah, it's
something that I never thought I would be able to achieve.
You know. It's push out this content as much as
I so that I feel like people will enjoy and
not be biased.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
It's it's hard sometimes.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, what what advice would you give to up and
coming content creators or just people that want to, you know,
start create, whether it's on YouTube, Instagram or TikTok.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Just do it.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Just start right now. And when you do it, I
would say you really need to. I know this is
gonna sound crazy, but don't do it for the money.
Really do it because you're enjoying it. Because there was
a time when I first started doing content creation. When
I first started, I was not making any money, but
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it brought me keys. And honestly, when you start making
money from it, it starts to feel like a job.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
So don't rush for the money.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
And it honestly makes you It just makes it kind
of different when you start making money. It's it's good
that you make money off your art, but enjoy it
while you can, while.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
You're just having fun.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Have fun with it, because it's still some days where
I have fun with content because that's how I started.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
I have so much fun in here, I just being
here for hours, just having a ball by myself, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
So make sure it's something that you want to do,
be serious about it, and always be looking for better
ways to get better.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Never never look at other.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Content creators as competition or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Learn from other content creators.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
There's a there's there's a lot of things out here
that people refuse to learn just because it comes from
somebody else.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
That's true, very true. Wow, that's very true.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
That's great advice, Yeah, because I think that's one thing
a lot of people do kind of kind of get
distracted on. I think they want to do they want
to get into that stuff because they're like, oh, the
money I could make just like for people get into film,
they think it's like an overnight thing. It's like no, no, no,
I started getting paid until three years of doing this.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Wow, And I did get paid, but it was like
two hundred dollars a month and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
You know, until you really start making money.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And like I said, when you start making that money,
it's like now you feel like you have to do
it instead of it just being fun because this is
how you pay your bills.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Just have fun with it.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, so just have fun, Just have fun, Just enjoy
it because you if you plan on doing this for
a long time, you'll be doing it.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
For a long time.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Right, Absolutely enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
And with like you said, when it comes to film
and entertainment, just be just understand that you don't get
paid that much.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Money as well. You know what I mean Now all
the time.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
There are exceptions to the rule, but you just got
to be prepared to really be a hustler, really be
a go getter when being a content creator, because sitting down,
it's like you're it's.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Like you need to how I look at it as
I do already have my TV show.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Every day and I need to put these episodes out
so that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah. Always, I love that because yes, you have to
see yourself as such instead of saying, you know how
people say, well dream big and it's like, are you're
going to keep dreaming?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Actually it starts it's time to do not yes.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Yes, and you got to put yourself out there so
people can see you. If you're not putting yourself out
there and people's not there, they have to be like, okay,
what video they got today? Like I know they're coming,
you know what I mean? Even if you do take
a break, you make them miss you. So I don't know,
just keep going. It's hard, baby, it is hard. I'm
looking at you in this camera, the person who wants
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to be a content creator.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Don't go into this thick and it's going to be easy.
It's hard.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
It's it's hard, hard, like but it's worth it when
you really enjoy I feel me.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I love that. Thank you? What great advice.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
That's that's beautiful, beautifully said. Where can people find you
on social media to follow everything you have going on?
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So on Instagram I'm Jakan j a c o N
Underscore Milan. I'm also on TikTok as Jakan Milan one.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
And I'm on Facebook.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I have a Facebook page that I just started, so
if you want to go follow that too. It's your
kamalane in on YouTube Jakana Line Darling, so you can
find me on I'm on Patrists too, Jakanda Line, wherever
wherever is social media at, I'm there. And that's what
I mean by you have to put your face out there.
You have to get on everything and learn. That's one
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of the hard things.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Is always getting on something new.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
And you know it so funny.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I see your face on a lot of different Instagram channels.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I'm like, oh, really, Oh, send it to you. I
swear I'd be like, I don't want to. I'm like,
I'm gonna say it to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
People re upload your video a lot on different channels,
Like it's because I see in your face so many times.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'm like, whoa, I love this, So it is true.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
That just made me feel good. Wow, thank you for that.
That just made me feel good.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Definitely, I'll screenshot it next time I see you. I'm like,
and I'll show you look look, look there you are cute.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
That really makes me feel good because you know, I
am an LGBTQ creator and I'm black, So sometimes I
feel like, you know, I don't get the recognition that
I deserve or that i'm oe to. But then I
don't want to get complacent, you know. I want to
earn what I do get, you know, So I don't
want to fast unrevealed.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
I want my.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Momentum to be slow, so I meet everyone on my
way to the top and I build genuine relationships with
them because I know what that's like. I want to
be the clean up guy. I want to be the cameraman.
I want to be everything because I want to understand
it when I do make it to the top. So
I don't become complacent. So I'm fine with my slow rides.
(32:46):
I'm a slow rising star and you are.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You're already a star, baby, You're already there, already.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Thank you you got that's that aries. Look, that's that
Ari's tall than you.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
You got you making me. You made my day today.
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Thank you, thank you, you make mine. I'm so glad.
I'm so glad you have to have you on the show.
And yeah, I think this is gonna be so fun
to treat with people to just to hear more about
you besides of what you do with Zodiac, just just
all the things that you are, all the fastest sex
are so.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Definitely unlocked, a different side from me today. You're a
great interviewer. You're great. Thank you, you're great.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Anytime you want to interview for me, you already know,
and maybe I can interview you for my time.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah, let me know, let me know anytime. That sounds great,
let's do it.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
I did. I did some research on you too, your
star as well.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Thank you, yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, and
thank you all for listening and always remember to live, love, laugh.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
We'll see you guys next time.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Bye bye
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
Welcome to another episode of Creators to Creators. Today, today
we have a very special guest, Jakal Lalan.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You're here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm so excited, Like I've been following you for quite
some time, and like your videos are always they just
bring me joy and they're so funny, they're so just
You're just so talented.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
But I always I am curious people of like that are.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Doing something at the level that you're doing it and
the efficiency, Like where did it all start?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Like, tell me a little bit about your childhood, what
was that?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Like have you always been funny or like what drew
you into that the comedy world?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Well, actually what drew me into this is I've always
been obsessed with television, with TV shows sitcoms, movies, things
of that nature. And I've also always been obsessed with astrology.
Now I've always been able to get a laugh out
of anybody. That's always been my thing. In my thing
(01:40):
that I'm known for is I'm able to make anybody laugh,
no matter where you come from, no matter who you are,
because I'm able to send something in somebody, you know
what I mean. So I just feel like this is
something that's been in me since a child.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
I just used to play with my cousins.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
And I would make them do movie roles and redo
movies with me.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
So I think that's where that came from.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I love that. I love that same for me. I
think for me it was like the same thing. When
I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I was always well, I was a bit of a loner,
and I was really obsessed with like I'm the baby
of the family, so I had to just I was
like in everyone's business, and my brother came home with
a camera and then I just started, you know, shooting everything,
and you know, being I was like, I want to
be a filmmaker, and so it just kind of, you know,
kept that trajectory. But I'm curious with you, like finding
(02:35):
that like that lane and keeping it going. Like was
it like after like high school or college or whatever
that you were like, I'm going to go full fledge
into this like creative world of social media and creating videos.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Actually it started during the pandemic.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I was a assistant manager at wingstop and I just
was in a very I wouldn't say low moment, but
I wanted to do more in life, and I knew
I had the chops to be able to entertain people,
but I didn't know what aspect that would be in.
And then came TikTok, and my coworkers was just like,
(03:19):
I'm always the guy who used to be like, Oh
you're in aris, that's.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Why you're like that, or oh you're a scorpio, that's
why you like that.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
And my people from my job was like, you should
do something with this, you should make funny videos or talk.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
So at first it would just be like me talking
about the zoac signs.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
But like I said, I'm obsessed with movies and TV shows,
so it developed into.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That nice Where was okay, So you started during the pandemic.
Did you kind of know like that your video was going.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
To like like I didn't explode or when when did it? Like,
what was the feeling when it did? When you started
to see like the numbers.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Okay, so it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
So when I first started, it took me like till
a hundred video, my hundred video to like really go viral.
And it was like a crazy moment because I never
expected it, Like my videos would do good, they would
get like two hundred likes, one hundred likes, you know,
one hundred and fifty likes. But when my videos start
going viral, it was because I started doing zodiacs signs
(04:17):
in the Bag Girls Clubhouse, and I started a series
off of that, and then I piggybacked off that and
just start doing everything. So it was how I felt,
was I just if I'm being honest, I felt like
I was finally vindicated. I finally felt like I was
seen and people appreciating my work.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah yeah, and I'm sure that feels so good too.
It's really hard to to navigate this industry, you know,
being you know, create the creative space because there's so
many people doing it, so you know, trying to find
your lane and your voices kind of gets hard to
(04:58):
and then you don't want to compete.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You just want to be yourself. But you know what
I mean, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
It's it's hard to not have a competitive mindset in
this entertainment industry because you do want to be the best,
and you do want people to understand.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
That you are trying hard.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
It's not a but you don't want to be competitive
because you know others are trying hard as well, so
you try to I at least try to support everybody
because I understand.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
What it takes to be a content creator.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, so how does walk me through like your day
in your world, like a content creation day?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Like what what is it?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What is the first thing you do uh top of
the day to like when you're like when you're in
your creative process.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
Okay, So what I usually do is I'll start the
night before. So the night before I will go through
some sounds that I've heard on TikTok or some movies
that I want to kind of like implement, and I'll
like practice of the night before me just like practicing.
And then in the morning, I get up, I take
me a shower, I do my prayer, and I have
(06:06):
I'm in my content room right now, So I come
to my content room, lock myself in and I would
say from about eight thirty to probably sometimes five point
thirty pm, I'm in here creating content.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Wow, I mean see, how okay?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
So when I first started doing content, look, I tried
to look at it as a job because I was
used to working working a job, so I tried to
do a nine to five. But then it just this
is just something that's in me. Every day I get up.
This is what I do, you know, So I try
to look at it as a real job.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
You know.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
I don't want to hinder myself.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
And I understand that content creation can take over your
life as well. So I try to give myself time
to decompress and just you know, I find some more
content I.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Guess to do.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I love that, and I think that's it's so important
that it can become consuming and it isn't to have
a balance, you know, just like social media, like I
gotta post, you know. I have a social media manager,
and she's like, you got to post this day and
this day, got to tell people like what you're doing.
And I'm just like, I it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, it's a lot drive you crazy if you let it.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
And I've learned that because you know, just a vulnerable
moment here.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I go through with this content stuff. You go through
burnouts and depressions, and you even go through where you
just have writer's block or content creation block, where you
just can't think of the thing because you're pushing yourself
too hard. And the way I deal with that is
I do take a break, you know what I mean.
I've had times, and I do let my followers know too,
(07:42):
because I want people to be aware that content creation is.
While we do enjoy making people laugh and making people
have a the day, and sometimes it affects us mentally.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
And not in a bad way.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Because I'm not in a bad way as far as
like the comments or anything.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
For me.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
It's more so just I'm overworking myself and you start
to compete with yourself, and that's not good as well
sometimes because then you're always kind of telling yourself like
I could have did that better.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I can.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
So so sometimes it takes me what may be a
five second video that y'all seen, it takes me an
hour to do because I'm redoing it. I'm redoing it.
I'm redoing it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah no, and I and it's I mean, I get
I get it. You have to and it's it's it's
very quality. I mean, I gotta ask, have you ever
done acting before?
Speaker 6 (08:32):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
That is one thing that has propelled me to do content.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
That is my dream is to become an actor.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I would want to do that or be a TV
show host, you know. But I've always wanted to be
an actor. And one of my biggest dreams I'm speaking
it on your show right now, is that I will
be in one of my favorite slasher movies, like A
Nightmare on Elm Street or a or something like that.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
That is one of my biggest goals is to be
in one of them.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Even if I have to be unlive, I just want
to be in one.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Like so, I just that is one of my biggest goals.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
So, yes, I always wanted to do acting. I've always
been into acting. When I was growing up, I would
learn movies and redo the scenes and my mom would
make me doing it in front of her friends or stuff
like that.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
You know.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
So I've always been into acting.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I love it, yeah, because I'm like the facial expressions,
the just how like each character.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I'm like, how that's so good? It's like you should
totally have your own show. It's so good. I'm like,
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Absolutely and yet absolutely your mouth to God's ears, it
will happen.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I mean, I love the you love Slashers, So that's good.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Well, yeah, what's.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
A and I love I love asking this question and
and and there is no wrong answer. But if you
could sit down and have a coffee date with anybody
living or dead, it could be an actor, a filmmaker, comedian.
Who would it be and what would.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You ask him on this coffee date?
Speaker 6 (10:11):
That's a good one. It would probably be I'll give.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You a dead and.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
An allowed one. So for a dead one, it would
probably be Malcolm X.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Because I've always been obsessed with his works in the
community as far as his approach to some things and
and his ideologies on some things. And I would also
just like to ask him, maybe if he could go
spend a day with me, what do he think he
(10:49):
was able to change? And what do you think that
he wasn't able to change? Uh, that's what a lot
of people don't know about a lot about me. I'm
very into my black leaders.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
Yeah, Malcolm X and alive and alive. It will probably
have to be Eddie Murphy because he is one of
my favorite actors. He's He's one of the reasons why
I do what I do today.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I grew up on Eddie Murphy and I would just
want to ask him how does he get into that
mind to get into.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
All those characters. So, yeah, those are the two people.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
That's amazing. That's amazing. I love that. I would have
not I would have never pictured Malcolm X, but I
love it. That's amazing. I love that you're very like
you love the Black leaders.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And I feel that sometimes people can put people in boxes,
especially what we do.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
It's like, oh, that's all we do. So I'm sure
you've You've probably want to.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Branch out outside of zodiac at some point, you know,
but it is great. But I'm sure you know what
I mean, Like, I does that feel like pressure, like
finding something something else creatively to do as far as
like content wise, And I mean I was still like
not like stopping it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
But being able to like pivot to somewhere else too creatively.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
I love this question so much because this is something
that I've been pondering with for a while lately, and
I feel like a lot of creators ponder with this,
Like when you get deep into your niche where you
start to earn admiration and you get lights, comments, and
you even start to monetize off these things, you do scared,
(12:42):
you do get scared to veer away because you see
that it's not getting the same love or the same
push as uh, your other things. And that's a lot
of that's a lot of creators are dealing with this.
I am one, Like I said, I want to do
other things. I want to talk about things more, you.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And I feel like zodiac signs keep me in a
box to where I I am ready to escape out
of it, but not just erase it because it did
give me my start and I will always appreciate zodia
X signs, but it does make me feel stagnant at times,
and I want to show more of myself to my
audience and more of my personality. I feel like I'm
(13:27):
not able to show my personality with just the zodiac signs.
Of course, people see my funny and silly side, but
I also have other sides to myself. So yeah, I
do want to do different things.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I love that, well, like what's some things that you.
I mean, I don't know if are you working on
anything that you want, like to be different, that you're
trying to create lately or coming up soon that you
want to like, you know, I don't know, integrate into
your channel or channels.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yes, I am doing YouTube. So I am doing YouTube.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I love that. I mean, I think YouTube.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Is so hard platform. God, it's so hard and honestly
makes me uncomfortable. It makes me uncomfortable. But yeah, it's
very hard. It's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, I feel like it's worth it.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I I you know, I think back in the day
when I I was like, okay this, I'm gonna probably
show my age right now, and back in like two
thousand and six, when when YouTube was really good. Back
in the time, I was getting exactly I mean one video,
it could be something simple, and I was getting like
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one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, almost a million views,
like just rapidly, and I grew had a big channel
where it was monetizing. I was doing like short films
and little interviews and I would I would use YouTube,
and then all of a sudden my channel got taken
off and I was like what so it scarred me
because you know, you build such a channel and then
(14:59):
you know, you get.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Blocked or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You gotta these all these soviety rules you can't really
show certain things or content gotta be yours. Yeah, copyright
it's like what they may be kind impossible for you
to like grow.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Really Yeah, then then the heyday from I'm going to
show my age too?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
From what where? From?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I definitely get
what they're saying. Yes, Like I get that. It is
very hard, like and that's why it's been hard for
me for my channel because I get copyright strike because
I use the wrong music a lot, or I don't
have the consent of somebody and I use a piece
of their video, you know.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
So I'm learning that as my way as a YouTuber too.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, because because I'm always wondering, Like my question is,
how does some YouTubers get away with it and then
some don't.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
I don't under exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I don't get that.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It's like, yeah, you know, it should just be that.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
I feel like a lot of that is in social media.
They have their bias. It's on these apps where this
person can get away with it, but you can't so
I feel like that's that's on every app, honestly, and
I'm on every app.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
So I definitely feel like that. So that's on every app.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's a biases, right do you do you feel like
now with with I mean, I mean nowadays because TikTok
was was they took it off, they brought it back.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
I don't really know what the reason was around it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But I was on TikTok for a little bit and
then I was like, I can't do TikTok.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I mean, I don't know how people do it all
the time because there's so many platforms, like I can
do Instagram it seems to be like my Pace, and
but TikTok, I hear it's like a really good app
because it you can blow up faster than I think
any other app, which I wonder why that is, but
(16:51):
it's it's.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I think what it used to be. Now the algorithm
is kind of wonky. But when but when I first.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Started getting on, I feel like they genuinely pushed your
content out and just to just to the people who
they knew what want to watch your content. I feel
like that's how I blew up so big on TikTok
because they genuinely was just pushing out content.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
You know what I mean. If it's good, it's good.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
If they're interacting with it, they're interacting with it now
so much.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Now it's kind of you.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Gotta work now. It's like you gotta work a little
bit now. But it's still more easier to get a
viral hit on TikTok than anywhere else. But I just
feel like, yeah, the algorithm was just algorithm, and you
know what I mean, it was really it was really
a good algorithm.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
And I just feel like if you had the personality
and you push it, and content.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Creation is about being determined and about repetitive action sometimes
and you just gotta keep going.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
That's what I feel so true. That's so true, you
have to keep going. So let's get into the zodiacs.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
I was like, now we're gonna now, so do you
have a favorite zodiac sign and one of your least
favorite zodiac signs?
Speaker 6 (18:19):
And what.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Well, if you ask all my followers, they would swear
my favorite zodiac sign is aries.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
And all my best friends have been aries.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
So I got the biases for Arias And like I
always say, when I do get on live and stuff.
If I could choose to be any Zota sign, it
would be Aries. So I would say Aries because Aries
just have this fiery personality that just draws me, maybe
because I'm a cancer and I'm so sensitive and the water.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Is just drawn to the scene, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
But Aries just do it for me and the signs
that every Okay, so every zo sign has.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Its place in its purpose. But if I have to
say a sign that I don't like, it would have
to be Gemini's.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And that's because for the same reason for Arias, but
different Geminis are. Gemini have always been my best friends.
Nobody can make me laugh like a Gemini, but nobody
has hurt me like a Gemini. Okay, nobody has hurt
me worse than a Gemini.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
And that's why.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
That sucks. Femini has hurt me real bad.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I'm sorry. Screw that gym.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
What's your favorite son? What's your favorite soigner?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
My favorite sign? That's a really good question. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I just honestly just got into this and I just
think it's so funny, like the stereotypes they give us.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And I mean, I get there's some truths to it.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
For sure, And that's why I try to shake it
up for y'all Aries, because they are just think y'all
so angry and stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
But I give y'all a love. I give y'all a y'all.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
They don't know y'all like I know y'all. Y'all not
just all want to beat up everybody.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Y'all. Listen, y'all love absolutely, thank you, thank you so much.
Like I feel like when we're healed, like I am thank.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
God, you know, I just I'm on, Like I think
we channeled that energy into like work and and drive
and it and it goes into that direction, like so yeah,
time I'm getting old.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, And you know what, my friend that's an area.
She's the same way she was back in the day.
She was typical Aries, but now she has a family.
You know, she's calm, cool and collective and she works hard.
So it's just like I feel like Aries give me
a little bit of Capricorn and how hard y'all work.
(20:53):
Y'all are very hard workers. And that's why I'm drawn
to Aries, honestly, because I.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Don't know my favorite gotta be y'all. I love y'all
too I have a few cancers in my life.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Actually they're really great. Yeah, it's like four or five
and I don't know, I kind of and I'm not
gonna say this guy's name, but there is one guy
that I remember going out with and he was cool,
but then he just switched up.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I was like, oh man, I don't know what's what.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Was his fine?
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Cancer?
Speaker 9 (21:31):
Okay, now I'm hurt. Now I'm hurt. Now Why I
always gotta be why always gotta be shocked?
Speaker 6 (21:43):
I was shocked. But you know what, we can be
a little bipolar.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Sometimes we can be you know, it's just because we
have so many emotions going on in us, you know
what I mean. He's never personal. It's really us dealing
with our own stuff. It's nothing personal. I always have
to tell people that. But that's funny because I always
say cancer the areas are better as friends than relationships.
I agree, because we're both we both are missing something
(22:06):
when we.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Get into a relationship.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
You know what I mean, It's like something is missing.
But I love you.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I agree with that. I want her to agree with that.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
They're gonna kill me. There are gonna kill me.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
They are they are, Oh my god, And I think
my favorite one has to be.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It was a sad but then I was like, wow,
very opinionated.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Like see why you as as were like Sagittarius is.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
As though we love them, but you know, and I
do love my Leos too, but I think both of them.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
I think both of them have different qualities.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I feel like Leo's like spotlight, which we don't really
care we I don't care about that, which is great.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I think we have regardless.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, y'all gonna get y'all, y'all gonna be noticed regardless
like Sio's gotta make it obvious. Y'all is like I'll
be noted regardless, and Sagittaries don't care either way it goes.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
So that's that's how it goes.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
When I love fire sounds, I really do, y'all know, y'all,
y'all are so fun. I love fire signs, but it's
just like it's like with water signs or with air signs.
We're all the same, but we can see the different qualities.
Once you get around them, you'll be like, Okay, oh
all right, I got it, got it, Okay, got it. Okay,
(23:29):
that's how it be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I love that I love that. Have you ever thought about.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Making like a short film like with the signs and
like making like a little series of different like characters.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Yes, that's so you are? You are these questions? I
actually do.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I have a script made that I made three years
ago about the zodiac signs Robbin a Bank.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
It's a short thing and it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Every time I read it to people that like, oh
my god, you need to make it. But I kind
of wanted to. I kind of want to do it good.
So I've been trying to see how I want to
do it.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
But yes I have.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I Yeah, I think that would be so great because
I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Actually, you know, like, no, me either. I haven't short
film ones.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
No, I haven't seen anything like that, and I've looked.
I've looked just to make sure, but no, I.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Haven't seen anything like that with the Zodeac signs.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
And I feel like it would be something good. There
are a lot of zodiac sign creators and I feel
like it to make them, you know, be like, Okay,
if he can do it, I could do it. That's
how I look at a lot of people. I feel
like if he could do it, or she could do it,
or they can do it.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I can do it, you know what I mean. So
that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
And you know, that's what I like about your channel,
because you're right, there's a lot of people that do that,
like zodiac stuff, but I feel like the difference is
that I think you can kind of tell what somebody
is because they kind of favored one sign, and you're
just like, what about every other sign too? So it's
good that you're like giving, you know, because when I
(25:16):
when I first saw your channel, I literally thought you
were Leo.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Really, everybody said that what gave Leo vibes? You what
I just was just a little confident, But.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
You just spicy. I love it. It's like very like that, Yeah,
you got that vibe. It's just fun.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Thank you. You're making me blood. Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
And that's why I was drawn to you, honestly, because
you show genuine support for my channel and you're just
you're just always making me feel like, Okay, at least
one area agreed with me, you know what I mean,
And we built a genuine relationship as far as like
we just really just understand each other, you know what.
(26:05):
I mean, and that's I'm telling you, that's that areas
in cancer bond.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
You're not gonna find nothing like that. I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I love it. So you have just to let people
know because you know, I got I got a brag
about you.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
You have what like eight hundred thousand followers on TikTok,
is that right or something like that.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
It's getting there. On TikTok, I have about okay, seven.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Thousand and twenty five k thankundown now. So yeah, it's
something that I never thought I would be able to achieve.
You know. It's push out this content as much as
I so that I feel like people will enjoy and
not be biased.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
It's it's hard sometimes.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, what what advice would you give to up and
coming content creators or just people that want to, you know,
start create, whether it's on YouTube, Instagram or TikTok.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Just do it.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Just start right now. And when you do it, I
would say you really need to. I know this is
gonna sound crazy, but don't do it for the money.
Really do it because you're enjoying it. Because there was
a time when I first started doing content creation. When
I first started, I was not making any money, but
(27:27):
it brought me keys. And honestly, when you start making
money from it, it starts to feel like a job.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
So don't rush for the money.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
And it honestly makes you It just makes it kind
of different when you start making money. It's it's good
that you make money off your art, but enjoy it
while you can, while.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
You're just having fun.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Have fun with it, because it's still some days where
I have fun with content because that's how I started.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
I have so much fun in here, I just being
here for hours, just having a ball by myself, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
So make sure it's something that you want to do,
be serious about it, and always be looking for better
ways to get better.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Never never look at other.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Content creators as competition or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Learn from other content creators.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
There's a there's there's a lot of things out here
that people refuse to learn just because it comes from
somebody else.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
That's true, very true. Wow, that's very true.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
That's great advice, Yeah, because I think that's one thing
a lot of people do kind of kind of get
distracted on. I think they want to do they want
to get into that stuff because they're like, oh, the
money I could make just like for people get into film,
they think it's like an overnight thing. It's like no, no, no,
I started getting paid until three years of doing this.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Wow, And I did get paid, but it was like
two hundred dollars a month and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
You know, until you really start making money.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And like I said, when you start making that money,
it's like now you feel like you have to do
it instead of it just being fun because this is
how you pay your bills.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Just have fun with it.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, so just have fun, Just have fun, Just enjoy
it because you if you plan on doing this for
a long time, you'll be doing it.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
For a long time.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Right, Absolutely enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
And with like you said, when it comes to film
and entertainment, just be just understand that you don't get
paid that much.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Money as well. You know what I mean Now all
the time.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
There are exceptions to the rule, but you just got
to be prepared to really be a hustler, really be
a go getter when being a content creator, because sitting down,
it's like you're it's.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Like you need to how I look at it as
I do already have my TV show.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Every day and I need to put these episodes out
so that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yeah. Always, I love that because yes, you have to
see yourself as such instead of saying, you know how
people say, well dream big and it's like, are you're
going to keep dreaming?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Actually it starts it's time to do not yes.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Yes, and you got to put yourself out there so
people can see you. If you're not putting yourself out
there and people's not there, they have to be like, okay,
what video they got today? Like I know they're coming,
you know what I mean? Even if you do take
a break, you make them miss you. So I don't know,
just keep going. It's hard, baby, it is hard. I'm
looking at you in this camera, the person who wants
(30:28):
to be a content creator.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Don't go into this thick and it's going to be easy.
It's hard.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
It's it's hard, hard, like but it's worth it when
you really enjoy I feel me.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I love that. Thank you? What great advice.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
That's that's beautiful, beautifully said. Where can people find you
on social media to follow everything you have going on?
Speaker 5 (30:47):
So on Instagram I'm Jakan j a c o N
Underscore Milan. I'm also on TikTok as Jakan Milan one.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
And I'm on Facebook.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I have a Facebook page that I just started, so
if you want to go follow that too. It's your
kamalane in on YouTube Jakana Line Darling, so you can
find me on I'm on Patrists too, Jakanda Line, wherever
wherever is social media at, I'm there. And that's what
I mean by you have to put your face out there.
You have to get on everything and learn. That's one
(31:23):
of the hard things.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Is always getting on something new.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
And you know it so funny.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I see your face on a lot of different Instagram channels.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I'm like, oh, really, Oh, send it to you. I
swear I'd be like, I don't want to. I'm like,
I'm gonna say it to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
People re upload your video a lot on different channels,
Like it's because I see in your face so many times.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'm like, whoa, I love this, So it is true.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
That just made me feel good. Wow, thank you for that.
That just made me feel good.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Definitely, I'll screenshot it next time I see you. I'm like,
and I'll show you look look, look there you are cute.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
That really makes me feel good because you know, I
am an LGBTQ creator and I'm black, So sometimes I
feel like, you know, I don't get the recognition that
I deserve or that i'm oe to. But then I
don't want to get complacent, you know. I want to
earn what I do get, you know, So I don't
want to fast unrevealed.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
I want my.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Momentum to be slow, so I meet everyone on my
way to the top and I build genuine relationships with
them because I know what that's like. I want to
be the clean up guy. I want to be the cameraman.
I want to be everything because I want to understand
it when I do make it to the top. So
I don't become complacent. So I'm fine with my slow rides.
(32:46):
I'm a slow rising star and you are.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You're already a star, baby, You're already there, already.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Thank you you got that's that aries. Look, that's that
Ari's tall than you.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
You got you making me. You made my day today.
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Thank you, thank you, you make mine. I'm so glad.
I'm so glad you have to have you on the show.
And yeah, I think this is gonna be so fun
to treat with people to just to hear more about
you besides of what you do with Zodiac, just just
all the things that you are, all the fastest sex
are so.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Definitely unlocked, a different side from me today. You're a
great interviewer. You're great. Thank you, you're great.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Anytime you want to interview for me, you already know,
and maybe I can interview you for my time.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah, let me know, let me know anytime. That sounds great,
let's do it.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
I did. I did some research on you too, your
star as well.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Thank you, yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, and
thank you all for listening and always remember to live, love, laugh.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
We'll see you guys next time.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Bye bye
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