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Born and raised in Galveston, Texas, Jimmy Mallia grew up as one of five children. He attended O’Connell High School, where he was involved in football, track, and drama. In 1983, he moved to Austin to attend the University of Texas, graduating in 1987 with a degree in economics. During his time at UT, he was an active member of Kappa Sigma Fraternity serving as both pledge and president and was also part of the Texas Cowboys.After graduating, he relocated to Houston in 1988 and began his career at PaineWebber, later joining Great West Life. In 1993, he moved to Lafayette to lead the employee benefits division of a regional firm, a role he held until 2018. He then founded Mallia Benefits, which he successfully grew and eventually sold to Gallagher in 2021. He continues his work with Gallagher today.Mallia is the father of three daughters, now ages 32, 29, and 27, and the grandfather of three boys, ages 13, 11, and 7. He raised his daughters primarily on his own, creating deeply personal memories that would later inspire much of his songwriting.Though he has achieved significant success in business, his journey has been shaped by challenges as well. After more than 40 years of drinking and a near-fatal low point, he entered recovery and has remained committed to AA for the past three years. His life has included both great joy and profound loss, and he openly acknowledges that his story could easily unfold like a dramatic series.Mallia has been writing songs for more than fifteen years and plays acoustic guitar. His music rooted in folk and country influences draws heavily from his life, family, and personal experiences. Now 59, he is pursuing his longstanding dream of releasing his music publicly and performing on stage.His commitment to community service spans decades. He has served on numerous boards, including the Boys and Girls Club, Bishop’s Charity Opus Christi Magnum, Our Lady of Fatima Parish (Finance Chairman), Our Lady of Fatima Foundation (President), STM School Board (Chairman), STM Foundation, Our Lady of Lourdes Foundation (Treasurer), and the Day One Board. He has participated in Leadership Lafayette, Leadership Louisiana, and the Leader in Me educational program. He currently serves as Chairman of the Board for the Acadiana Outreach Center, which provides shelter and support services for the homeless. Mallia is also a member of the Krewe of Gabriel and the Krewe of Bonaparte.
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Born and raised in Galveston, Texas, Jimmy Mallia grew up as one of five children. He attended O’Connell High School, where he was involved in football, track, and drama. In 1983, he moved to Austin to attend the University of Texas, graduating in 1987 with a degree in economics. During his time at UT, he was an active member of Kappa Sigma Fraternity serving as both pledge and president and was also part of the Texas Cowboys.After graduating, he relocated to Houston in 1988 and began his career at PaineWebber, later joining Great West Life. In 1993, he moved to Lafayette to lead the employee benefits division of a regional firm, a role he held until 2018. He then founded Mallia Benefits, which he successfully grew and eventually sold to Gallagher in 2021. He continues his work with Gallagher today.Mallia is the father of three daughters, now ages 32, 29, and 27, and the grandfather of three boys, ages 13, 11, and 7. He raised his daughters primarily on his own, creating deeply personal memories that would later inspire much of his songwriting.Though he has achieved significant success in business, his journey has been shaped by challenges as well. After more than 40 years of drinking and a near-fatal low point, he entered recovery and has remained committed to AA for the past three years. His life has included both great joy and profound loss, and he openly acknowledges that his story could easily unfold like a dramatic series.Mallia has been writing songs for more than fifteen years and plays acoustic guitar. His music rooted in folk and country influences draws heavily from his life, family, and personal experiences. Now 59, he is pursuing his longstanding dream of releasing his music publicly and performing on stage.His commitment to community service spans decades. He has served on numerous boards, including the Boys and Girls Club, Bishop’s Charity Opus Christi Magnum, Our Lady of Fatima Parish (Finance Chairman), Our Lady of Fatima Foundation (President), STM School Board (Chairman), STM Foundation, Our Lady of Lourdes Foundation (Treasurer), and the Day One Board. He has participated in Leadership Lafayette, Leadership Louisiana, and the Leader in Me educational program. He currently serves as Chairman of the Board for the Acadiana Outreach Center, which provides shelter and support services for the homeless. Mallia is also a member of the Krewe of Gabriel and the Krewe of Bonaparte.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Creators to Creators. Today,
today we have a special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hey, Jimmy Malley, welcome back.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I'm so happy to have you back on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
My friend me too, so glad to hear that I
was going to do this interview.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's been a while, it's been a minute.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, you know, for those new listeners that don't know
about you, or no, I mean I know about you.
But for those new listeners out there that you know,
want to know a little bit more about you. Tell
us a bit a bit about your childhood. What was
that like and how did you when did the love
for music begin?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I always say I have a think I have a
pretty unique childhood. I grew up in a very special
place Galveston Island in Texas, which is odd because it's
an island in Texas, and uh it's a peninsula island
off the south of Texas, and uh so it was
like just its own little world, separated from everything else,
(01:36):
you know, so safe and a small community of people where,
you know, my grandparents grew up with my friend's grandparents,
my parents grew up with my parents' friends.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You know, it was just very unique.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
I didn't realize that until I got much older, how
unique an experience.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It was, tight knit community.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Small, uh, you know, and uh, I just had a
wonderful childhood just in Roman the island, And I guess
I started to take to music probably in seventh grade.
I learned to play guitar, and I was actually taught
by a nun, which is such a great story. How
(02:18):
many people can say that, right, And so it was
so I started playing way back then and played in
school masses that kind of stuff. Went on to do
some musical stuff, so and then all that kind of
got put on the shelf when I went off to college,
to the University of Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So this was a while back.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I am sixty one now, and so fast forward many decades,
and I picked back up the guitar, started taking lessons
again and playing with a guy here in town, a
local musician, and and then that slowly evolved into for
the first time, writing songs. And so I just started
writing songs and you know, I could, I could right,
(03:00):
you know, pretty much in for four and whatever, and so,
you know, I was fairly good at that. And my
partner would help me put it down the chords, and
that became our process, and you know, I would do
the lyrics, the melody, and then we'd put down the
chords and out would come a song. And that went
(03:20):
on for probably sixteen years of just that, just you know,
just the fun of that.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then late in life, like.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I said, I'm sixty one, about a year or so ago,
I decided one I would's like to put music out there.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I mean, I have no clue what that is.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I mean, you know, so I started researching it, and
you know, looking at it, how do you get on Spotify,
how to get on YouTube and Amazon Music and Apple Music?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And how do people do that? And can anybody just
do that? You know, And so.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Investigated it, figured out the whole distribution process and then
had to learn the recording process and fight a couple
of studios, and you know, such a cool process. To
have something go from what you hear in your head,
you know, to then actually developing the song itself and
playing it, and then to actually build in other instruments
(04:07):
and see it come to life in a recording is
just a phenomenal process and experience.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, I mean that's it's absolutely incredible. And you know
you I would say you're you're like natural at it
because a lot of people, you know, you have a
wonderful voice. I mean, like thank you, it's you know, exceptional.
You know, you've you've had a long career in business.
(04:34):
How has the perspective, you know, that's perspective shape your
approach to music now?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, it was such a beginning.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It was like an outlet, right, you know, because everything
was other side of the brain, right side of the business,
you know, you know, my gosh, almost forty years and
uh and and working, and then when I started doing
the music, it was truly just almost like a second religion.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You know, it was like there's something to do, work
the other side of the brain.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Just an incredible release, you know, it's just so much fun.
So when I started to when I made the decision like,
what the heck this late in life, what's it going
to hurt?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Let me see what it's like to put music out there.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Well, I had to rely on the business side of
my brain to figure out research. How do you get
you know, find a distributor, how do you find a promoter?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Do this?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
So it did come in handy, absolutely, you know, and
so I still use it, like, you know what all
these you know, got to investigate, like, okay, people on YouTube,
how do they get to you know, let's say one
hundred thousand subscribers, What is the business.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Side of that of how do you get attention?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Because that is to me, it'd be great if I
was so incredible that every time one person heard it,
they gave you got to listen to this guy, and
it just took off. Unfortunately, there's so much music out
there and it's available so easily. Now, you know, you
don't have to go to the ball ours is a concert.
You can go on your phone and immediately access thousands
(06:04):
upon thousands of artists, you know, So how do you
try to self get yourself out there and get hurt?
And that was a pretty cool process.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I mean you're doing amazing work. I think, yeah,
you know, I think it's one of the biggest things.
I think a lot of people want they get into
this business of you know, entertainment.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I don't think that's.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Something we automatically, no, right, We just quickly, you know,
figured it out like oh okay, so there's there's ways,
okay cool, and we just implement them as we go.
What was the inspiration behind dance? How did that song
come to be?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I had three daughters and every night before they would
go to bed, I would sing and play guitar form.
It's just part of our nighttime routine, you know, tuck
them in bed, play them a song, you know, up
their backs, and they go to sleep. And my middle daughter,
Caitlyn the song that I sang, and I think that
(07:06):
there wasn't much variety here, trust me, it was I
always sang the same song. They each had their favorite,
and Caitlyn's was the Dance by Garth Brooks, and so
I sang that to her every night for years and
years and years, and she was getting married and so
I just thought I'd be nice, I want to write
her a song, and so it evolved into you know
(07:27):
the influence of the dance by Garth Brooks into now
that it's it's time for her to have her own dance,
you know, apart from me and separate from me, which
is tough as a father, right, letting you ought to
go when they get married is is so bittersweet. You know,
you're happy for them, but you know, no matter what
age they get married at, you're still losing your little girl.
And so, you know, obviously the message of the song
(07:50):
is now it's your time. You know, we've had our time.
Now it's your time to shine and to dance on
your own.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I love that's that's beautiful. You know you mentioned
the song was written as a gift for your daughter's wedding.
Can you, you know, walk us through the moment and
what made you decide to turn it into a song, Like,
you know, I think it's really beautiful song, and I
think it's just absolutely I mean, like to be able
(08:22):
to to use that that is just timeless, you know,
that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I mean it was definitely you know, an act of love.
You know, it came really easy for me. Honestly, the lyrics,
the intent of it all was just really super easy.
I did change the melody a little bit. It was
a little bit faster and I slowed it down. And
(08:50):
then the recorded version, I actually have Kelly Jones, an
incredible artist, sing with me because I just kept hearing
in my head there's gotta be some harmony in there,
some softness to it, and she really brought that to
life in this particular song. And the ironic part is
I didn't get to sing it at her wedding because
she's like, oh Daddy, you can't. You can't do that.
(09:11):
I would fall apart the rest of the wedding.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You can't do that to me. So she actually only.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Heard it after it got recorded, and it was really
it was so sweet, you know, and obviously you know,
it was very emotional for her. I did have sort
of a bittersweet moment this The song has kind of
turned a little bit since its first was released. Unfortunately,
(09:38):
my other daughter passed away during the release of this
song tragically, and so I released it. It got released
because you know, you do it a month ahead of time,
and it just and I'd totally forgotten it was being released,
and a.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Week after her death.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I think the day after a funeral this song was released,
and so people that know me, I think I actually
thought it was intended for my daughter who had passed away,
because when you listen to the words, it certainly could
mean that, you know, So it kind of took on
a duality to it that is bittersweet, the wedding of
(10:16):
one of my daughters and the loss of another, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's really really tough, and
I'm so sorry to hear that. What you know, how
did your you know, when you originally wrote the song
at a faster tempo but then slowed it down, what
(10:40):
prompted that change and how does it affect the feeling
of the track?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
And it was just a slight week and I changed
some inflection in it, and because when I when I
first did it, you know, I would say it was
a little bit rush to do it because it was
shortly before her wedding. And then later on when I
came back to it and I played it, I just
naturally slowed it down. It had more meaning to me
(11:08):
actually after she was married, and so such an odd experience,
you know. It's one of these great things that if
you do anything like this that becomes spiritual that it
just happens, you know, the feeling of it, the tempo
of it, and so I slowed it down dramatically and
then bringing in the harmony part of it, brought in
that softer feel to it, you know, and it is
(11:30):
definitely something any father can relate to, you know, hopefully instantly,
hopefully it touches people in that way.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Absolutely absolutely it does.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Did you ever like, I'm sure you felt, you know,
very vulnerable writing this song, and you know, do you
feel like an artist?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You know who?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Because I feel like it's so hard to put your
real emotions or especially when it's something a real lyrically
into a song and then you put yourself out there.
Do you ever feel those like do you feel like
you feel exposed or do you feel like that's the
what artists should do is put themselves out there?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Absolutely, I mean that's how you make a song relatable
is by sort of you know, being vulnerable and exposing yourself.
And I am not typically that vulnerable type of guy.
And so when I first did this, you know, a
year and a half or so ago, my first song,
it was petrifying, you know, because it's okay for me
(12:35):
to have it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Now you put it out there, well, you know, you
open it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
The criticism the boy, this guy's horrible, you know, the lyrics.
They could attack so many things, the melody, the lyrics,
the music, the singing, you know, the voice, and it
was petrifying, especially at this stage of the game. And
I really intended to do it kind of on the side,
like downside, like I was. I didn't tell anybody I
(12:59):
was doing this, just did it, and some friends caught
window and al sudden, you know, social media was being
posted and shared and it took off and for a
new song to hit like one hundred thousand Spotify streams
was pretty decent, you know, but it's it was. And
then you get the reviews, you know, and you kind
(13:19):
of read them with one eye open, like, okay, is
this gonna be good?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Is this going to be bad? You know, like they're
gonna tell me I suck.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
And luckily most of them were very very kind, which
was which was really sweet. But yeah, I think in
order to truly relate to people, or for people to
relate to your music, it has to have vulnerability to it.
I mean, you know it just I think it's it's needed,
but it is very tough as the artist to put
(13:46):
those because every almost every one of my songs is
something about my life and experience something, you know, it's
it's not about something. I don't know how to say that,
it is truly me, you know, and so to let
people have a piece inside of that can be a
little daunting.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, No, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think you've mentioned too that you your life could
be a Netflix series.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
If it were, you know, what genre would it be?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yes, I often say is funny that my life could
could be a Netflix series. And I don't just mean
like one season. I'm good for about ten seasons. I've
had a very eventful life, you know, both great things, tragedies.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Heartbreaks, love.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I mean, it's it's kind of got it all in there.
So I don't know what genre that would be.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Drama, you know, or love or.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
You know, it could honestly, I think heck, you could
even throw horror in there at times, I guess unfortunately,
So I think it would be captivating because I think
each each episode needs and would be different.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It would be like, wait, where did this come from?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
This isn't your typical Hallmark story where Okay, we know
what's gonna how it starts, what the middle is, and
what the end is, because every season would be that.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Surely that cannot be happening to one person so.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's that's pretty funny though. That's a great show, right.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Oh yeah, but you definitely could.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I've had so many.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Very just like a lot of people's like like to
look at my life and say, you can't make this up.
I'm like, no, you really couldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Man, Sometimes I feel like my life could be. It's
it's definitely a thriller, for sure.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Thriller, for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
There's there's always something like it never ends, like could
I just have a be on an island by myself?
And yeah, man, you know, I love asking this question.
I think I've asked you before, but I don't know.
Maybe maybe it's it's changed. But if the three levels
(16:15):
of influence, money power, respects, if you could choose only one,
which one would you choose?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
And why.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Respect? Okay? Uh?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
And uh, you know, I guess you could think it'd
be an egotistical sort of thing, like I just want
to be respected, But you know, I how the tendency
rely too much at times on what other people think
of me, But it also puts a bit of responsibility
on me. Am I acting and behaving in a way
that people would find respectful and would want to emulate.
And if I'm not, then I'm doing something wrong.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I feel that I completely understand that. How do you
how do you?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
How do you balance sharing, you know, really painful personal
stories and making music that people can enjoy like because
you know, you also want it to feel like obviously
relatable and obviously real. But you know, I don't know
if there's the right formula for it. But I guess
(17:15):
you just kind of wing it and see I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Know, Yeah, I mean you do, and hopefully what you're
feeling and when you're writing it and from the from
the process of doing the lyrics to the melody, you know,
and the music part of it, what instruments in it.
You know, I know in my head what I want
to evoke in a feed mon like what am I
trying to get across?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And so.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You know, I guess I would consider success in that
when people hear it and they relay back to me
what the intent was. Man, when I heard this song,
I felt X whatever that might be depending on what
the songs. And if they say that, I'm like, awesome,
nailed it, you know what I mean. The best compliment
if it's a sad song, especially is when people cry. Obviously,
(18:06):
what a weird goal to have like that makes people cry.
But if I have a song that touches somebody, and
even like the dance, you know, if a father tears up,
I got it across.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You know, at fifty nine, you you're pursuing your dream
of releasing music. What advice would you give to others
thinking it's too late to chase theirs?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
You know the old add ite it's never too late
is very true. And I did it as much for
me as anything else, Like I can now say I
did it right. No, and no matter what happens, whether
you know, whatever comes out of this, because I have
no clue when God does really of what will come
out of this, but I know I did it. I
(18:54):
know I fulfilled a bucket list dream whatever you want
to call it, and I put it out there and
there was a sense of like release, giving first, whatever
you want to call it. Once it got out there,
it's like, huh, okay, you know, because until then, I've
just kind of kept it all to myself, you know,
and I could sit in my room alone and play
the song and feel the feeling and hopefully like it.
(19:18):
But when it gets out there, you know, I've done
my part, I've released it.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
What happens from there is not in my control.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, that's absolutely, and that's you know, that's the thing,
that's the hope. It's like, you know, I was talking
to someone about that and he's, you know, in the
entertainment business, and you know, there's there's ups and downs,
there's ebbs and flows, and sometimes you're not inspired. Sometimes
you are super inspired, but you know, it's really like,
you know, he was like, man, I don't know, I'm
(19:47):
not really where I want to be. And I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Do you feel like it's good to have.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
A a goal to reach or do you feel like
it's just good to create and see what happens instead
of having expectations, because you know, everyone's different.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Some people are they say, well you should.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Expect mm hmm, oh absolutely, And I very much in
my life in the past, especially in business, you always
measure yourself by by some mark, whether it's money, or promotion,
or success or or or or popularity, you know, for people,
whatever that might be. I think we have a tendency
to I've accomplished it when this has happened, rather than
(20:30):
just having accomplished it, you know, like you know, and
so putting out songs. I've done it, you know, I
put them out there. Absolutely, I would love for people to,
you know, to get recording contracts or have an artist,
you know, want to record my songs.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, that, if I would say, would be my goal,
no doubt.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
But you know, it was really cool to hit one
hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube. No did my life change
the next day? No, not really, you know that, you know,
it was great.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know that was awesome, right, because we don't know
what those those those little milestones feel like.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
They just could just feel like oh.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
But I guess in our heads, some subconsciously, we do
think it's something that's you know, I don't know, we're
supposed to feel something grand.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Right, Yeah, I think it's the expectation of how we're
going to feel once we reach the goal that can
be the disappointment, because oftentimes you reach the goal and
you may have euphoria for twenty four hours and then
it goes away and you're like, huh, okay, that didn't
last as long as I thought. It's so disappointing, you know,
it's like setting yourself up for failure. You reach the
goal and you don't feel what you've thought you were
(21:41):
going to feel, or the feeling that high doesn't last
as long as you would like it to.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, yes, it's so funny. I I remember having a premiere.
I did a I mean, it will forever be one
of my, I guess, monumental moments of my career.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I was there and a documentary called Horror Noir and
it was created by a shutter and we had the
premiere and it was all these celebrities, you know, Keith David,
everyone that you would think of in the horror genre
and these legends and and you know, it was a
very pinchy moment, you know, and I'm like, wow, I'm
part of the cast, and it was really really cool.
And then literally the next day it's like no one
(22:22):
who's not there is going to say congratulations or you know,
understand that feeling, right, and it just goes away and
then you're just back to normal it's like it's.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
A split second. It literally is. But I try to
live in the moment.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I don't know, Yeah, and it's such a it's equated
to like a drug or something else. It's like it
feels great in that moment, but sometimes a letdown is
so bad after, you know, it's like it is, it's
over right, you know, and and you want to go
back to the moment when you were enjoying it, you know.
I have a vivid memory way back when when my
little my girls were and who I raised, were young,
(22:59):
and it was Christmas time and it was one of
the few moments that I had a really great moment
of self realization. And so they were unwrapping the gifts whatever,
and I went the other room and I came back
and I stopped and just took it in, the joy
on their faces, the giggling, the laughing, and I remember
vividly thinking to myself, I don't want to forget this moment,
you know, because, especially like at Christmas time, you get
(23:21):
wrapped up in the gotta get this done, gotta do
this done, you know, and get through the stages of Christmas.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And I was really grateful decades later that I.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Can still bring that memory up like that, you know,
and mean as much. And so I wish I did
that more with my life in the moments when when
you know you want to cherish something that you take
a step back, pause and memorize it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, I think that also makes life more you
would look at more like like you would be grateful
for each I guess it'll make you more grateful for
life if we can, you know, live in the moment
and remember because you know, because this time is so
it's fleeting. When you think about it, you're like, whoa,
(24:07):
it's crazy, what's going on with time?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Even greater so as you get older, because really fleeting.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
But yeah, I guess that's you know why you're older.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
People appreciate life more, you know, because you know some
some definitely in some way we're running out of it.
So I do focus on trying to appreciate life more.
I do a really kind of fun, odd interesting as
I write a gratitude list every morning when I wake up,
the ten things I'm grateful for that day or from
the day before, And it really it keeps you in gratitude,
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you know, which is a great place to be.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, thank you for that suggestion. That's actually very good
to do. Write it down and yeah, that's that's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
What what do you want as far as like the
by next year?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
What what's something that you have on your bucket list
that you want to you know, accomplish musically?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
The one thing I don't do, surprisingly is I don't
play live, and so it's always been interesting. I mean, yes,
I played in front of people, don't get me wrong,
but I've never gone into like a venue of strangers
and just played, which actually I think would be a
little leasier than playing in front of people, I know,
but but yeah, it's to play play live and feel
(25:33):
that feeling. You know, when you do something on the
internet with Spotify, you know, YouTube, whatever it may be,
you don't get that immediate feedback, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And so the little that I've done live a little bit, it.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Really is an amazing feeling because for me, in those moments,
you can feel the audience, you can see if they're
getting it.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You can you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You can feed off of that response or you see
that response immediately, as opposed to getting you know, feedback
or getting more likes from getting more shares or you know,
subscribers or whatever that might be.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You know, yeah, And I think that's the thing too.
We can get caught up in that world of you know,
the the you know, the views, and sometimes you think,
oh man, if no one's looking at this video more
than this other video, it's like, well, is this bad?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Or you start getting.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Your Oh yeah, absolutely. It becomes the numbers. It becomes
the numbers game, you know, as opposed to is it
a being appreciated, understood and or people relating to it?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You know, yeah, exactly exactly. You know. I was going
to ask you because because I'm curious, because you know,
you've been in the music industry now for quite some
time and you've seen some things I'm sure, whether that's
with labels or you know what I've and creating projects.
Do you feel from your point of view and being
(27:07):
in the industry now for some time, do you feel
that we're heading in a more positive direction when it
comes to indie artist.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I think the one thing I think that the you know,
being on the internet and whether it's YouTuber, Spotify, it
is opened the doors to indie artists that never would
have happened opportunity other than seeing Anna bar down the street, right, So, yes,
I think it's opened up some tremendous opportunities, you know
for people like me that I didn't really want to
go and just play in random bars and do all
(27:42):
of that to get my music hurt. And it's such
a bigger stage, you know, but with that comes you know,
how long does that impact last? You know, because I
feel like our.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Tension spans now since we've gotten this are so short.
It's like, wow, that was great, Oh, on to the
next one.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
It's like scrolling through Facebook reels.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
You know, it's like if you know, we're fulfilled for
a second and then it's on to the next one,
you know, And yeah, our attention spans are just less,
So I don't you know, like I'm sure you've seen
stats where people listen to your song. You're like, Okay, seriously,
what did you get out of the first of my song?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
You know, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's like, how Yeah, That's one thing I'm trying to
figure out, is the algorithm and and all that, because
I remember and it's just it's it's I guess it
just depends on the day. The times like who's who's
what's who's all online at a certain time as well,
what's the most traffic you get.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I mean, it's so much.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Stuff to to really break down, and sometimes it can
become overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I'm just like, oh my god, right.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Yeah, it's like the algorithms in this are just ridiculous,
Like down to the minute of the data, you know,
so many I don't know people, Yes, they viewed it for.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
How many minutes or how not even minutes? How many seconds?
Speaker 5 (29:12):
You know, And I get balked down and I'm like, Okay,
the average time they've listened to this particular song is
like twenty seconds.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
And I'll go back and play it and I'm like,
you got like two lines. I don't know. I'm a failure.
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
They didn't even get to the best part of the song.
I'm horrible, you know, or I was horrible for the
first twenty seconds.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Maybe I have exactly like what.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Miss a note in the first twenty seconds? Why is
am I stopping? It'll drive you insane, you know, it
really could. It makes you. It makes me want to
and it is kind sort of a one of those dreams.
I probably I don't know if I would ever do it.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Is like, I really want to go to a strange
town I know nobody and do one of those street performances.
I just want to go to corner, open to my
guitar case and start paying see if anybody wants to
walk up and listen.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
That would be a bit of barometer.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
That would be amazing. I think you should do that.
That sounds like a plan.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I feel like those videos are very interesting and it's
really cool because no one knows you. But then they're
just like you kind of get a gauge of like, Okay,
what works, what song people really gravitate towards more and whatnot?
I mean, because you your repertoire, you have a lot
of songs, a lot of amazing songs. So yeah, I
think that'd be great.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I know, I really.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I've always said that. It's kind of funny. It's getting
up the nerve to do it. But that's why I say,
go to a strange fowner. If these people reject me, okay,
why do I care?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You know exactly?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
And if they appreciate it, they don't even they're not
even there because they know me.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You know, right.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
They just appreciate good music.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Where can people find you on social media to follow
everything you have going on and things that are coming
down the pipeline.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I do have a website. It's Jimmy Malay music dot com. Uh.
The toughest part is the spelling of my last name,
which is M A L L I A. But I
have all my songs that have been released on there,
all of my you can find my Spotify, you can
find my YouTube, you can find all of that on there.
There's even some merchandise for fun. I went and got
(31:24):
a brand, and it's a pretty cool brand. I have
to say, uh and uh, it's but yeah, mostly there,
I would say that's the best place to start.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I love it. I love it. One word that.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Kind of summarizes dance.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
For you, mm hmm, what would that be?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Love?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I mean that's it's just pure love for a daughter.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Everyone go listen to it, share it, and support as
much as you can. So thank you so much for
coming on again. It's always a pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Oh it was so good to talk to you again.
Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I appreciate it absolutely and always remember to live, love, laugh.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We'll see you guys next time. Byebye,
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Creators to Creators. Today,
today we have a special guest.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hey, Jimmy Malley, welcome back.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I'm so happy to have you back on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
My friend me too, so glad to hear that I
was going to do this interview.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's been a while, it's been a minute.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, you know, for those new listeners that don't know
about you, or no, I mean I know about you.
But for those new listeners out there that you know,
want to know a little bit more about you. Tell
us a bit a bit about your childhood. What was
that like and how did you when did the love
for music begin?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I always say I have a think I have a
pretty unique childhood. I grew up in a very special
place Galveston Island in Texas, which is odd because it's
an island in Texas, and uh it's a peninsula island
off the south of Texas, and uh so it was
like just its own little world, separated from everything else,
(01:36):
you know, so safe and a small community of people where,
you know, my grandparents grew up with my friend's grandparents,
my parents grew up with my parents' friends.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You know, it was just very unique.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
I didn't realize that until I got much older, how
unique an experience.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It was, tight knit community.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Small, uh, you know, and uh, I just had a
wonderful childhood just in Roman the island, And I guess
I started to take to music probably in seventh grade.
I learned to play guitar, and I was actually taught
by a nun, which is such a great story. How
(02:18):
many people can say that, right, And so it was
so I started playing way back then and played in
school masses that kind of stuff. Went on to do
some musical stuff, so and then all that kind of
got put on the shelf when I went off to college,
to the University of Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So this was a while back.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I am sixty one now, and so fast forward many decades,
and I picked back up the guitar, started taking lessons
again and playing with a guy here in town, a
local musician, and and then that slowly evolved into for
the first time, writing songs. And so I just started
writing songs and you know, I could, I could right,
(03:00):
you know, pretty much in for four and whatever, and so,
you know, I was fairly good at that. And my
partner would help me put it down the chords, and
that became our process, and you know, I would do
the lyrics, the melody, and then we'd put down the
chords and out would come a song. And that went
(03:20):
on for probably sixteen years of just that, just you know,
just the fun of that.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then late in life, like.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I said, I'm sixty one, about a year or so ago,
I decided one I would's like to put music out there.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I mean, I have no clue what that is.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I mean, you know, so I started researching it, and
you know, looking at it, how do you get on Spotify,
how to get on YouTube and Amazon Music and Apple Music?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
And how do people do that? And can anybody just
do that? You know, And so.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Investigated it, figured out the whole distribution process and then
had to learn the recording process and fight a couple
of studios, and you know, such a cool process. To
have something go from what you hear in your head,
you know, to then actually developing the song itself and
playing it, and then to actually build in other instruments
(04:07):
and see it come to life in a recording is
just a phenomenal process and experience.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, I mean that's it's absolutely incredible. And you know
you I would say you're you're like natural at it
because a lot of people, you know, you have a
wonderful voice. I mean, like thank you, it's you know, exceptional.
You know, you've you've had a long career in business.
(04:34):
How has the perspective, you know, that's perspective shape your
approach to music now?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, it was such a beginning.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It was like an outlet, right, you know, because everything
was other side of the brain, right side of the business,
you know, you know, my gosh, almost forty years and
uh and and working, and then when I started doing
the music, it was truly just almost like a second religion.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You know, it was like there's something to do, work
the other side of the brain.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Just an incredible release, you know, it's just so much fun.
So when I started to when I made the decision like,
what the heck this late in life, what's it going
to hurt?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Let me see what it's like to put music out there.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Well, I had to rely on the business side of
my brain to figure out research. How do you get
you know, find a distributor, how do you find a promoter?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Do this?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
So it did come in handy, absolutely, you know, and
so I still use it, like, you know what all
these you know, got to investigate, like, okay, people on YouTube,
how do they get to you know, let's say one
hundred thousand subscribers, What is the business.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Side of that of how do you get attention?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Because that is to me, it'd be great if I
was so incredible that every time one person heard it,
they gave you got to listen to this guy, and
it just took off. Unfortunately, there's so much music out
there and it's available so easily. Now, you know, you
don't have to go to the ball ours is a concert.
You can go on your phone and immediately access thousands
(06:04):
upon thousands of artists, you know, So how do you
try to self get yourself out there and get hurt?
And that was a pretty cool process.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I mean you're doing amazing work. I think, yeah,
you know, I think it's one of the biggest things.
I think a lot of people want they get into
this business of you know, entertainment.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I don't think that's.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Something we automatically, no, right, We just quickly, you know,
figured it out like oh okay, so there's there's ways,
okay cool, and we just implement them as we go.
What was the inspiration behind dance? How did that song
come to be?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Well?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I had three daughters and every night before they would
go to bed, I would sing and play guitar form.
It's just part of our nighttime routine, you know, tuck
them in bed, play them a song, you know, up
their backs, and they go to sleep. And my middle daughter,
Caitlyn the song that I sang, and I think that
(07:06):
there wasn't much variety here, trust me, it was I
always sang the same song. They each had their favorite,
and Caitlyn's was the Dance by Garth Brooks, and so
I sang that to her every night for years and
years and years, and she was getting married and so
I just thought I'd be nice, I want to write
her a song, and so it evolved into you know
(07:27):
the influence of the dance by Garth Brooks into now
that it's it's time for her to have her own dance,
you know, apart from me and separate from me, which
is tough as a father, right, letting you ought to
go when they get married is is so bittersweet. You know,
you're happy for them, but you know, no matter what
age they get married at, you're still losing your little girl.
And so, you know, obviously the message of the song
(07:50):
is now it's your time. You know, we've had our time.
Now it's your time to shine and to dance on
your own.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I love that's that's beautiful. You know you mentioned
the song was written as a gift for your daughter's wedding.
Can you, you know, walk us through the moment and
what made you decide to turn it into a song, Like,
you know, I think it's really beautiful song, and I
think it's just absolutely I mean, like to be able
(08:22):
to to use that that is just timeless, you know,
that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I mean it was definitely you know, an act of love.
You know, it came really easy for me. Honestly, the lyrics,
the intent of it all was just really super easy.
I did change the melody a little bit. It was
a little bit faster and I slowed it down. And
(08:50):
then the recorded version, I actually have Kelly Jones, an
incredible artist, sing with me because I just kept hearing
in my head there's gotta be some harmony in there,
some softness to it, and she really brought that to
life in this particular song. And the ironic part is
I didn't get to sing it at her wedding because
she's like, oh Daddy, you can't. You can't do that.
(09:11):
I would fall apart the rest of the wedding.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You can't do that to me. So she actually only.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Heard it after it got recorded, and it was really
it was so sweet, you know, and obviously you know,
it was very emotional for her. I did have sort
of a bittersweet moment this The song has kind of
turned a little bit since its first was released. Unfortunately,
(09:38):
my other daughter passed away during the release of this
song tragically, and so I released it. It got released
because you know, you do it a month ahead of time,
and it just and I'd totally forgotten it was being released,
and a.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Week after her death.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I think the day after a funeral this song was released,
and so people that know me, I think I actually
thought it was intended for my daughter who had passed away,
because when you listen to the words, it certainly could
mean that, you know, So it kind of took on
a duality to it that is bittersweet, the wedding of
(10:16):
one of my daughters and the loss of another, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's really really tough, and
I'm so sorry to hear that. What you know, how
did your you know, when you originally wrote the song
at a faster tempo but then slowed it down, what
(10:40):
prompted that change and how does it affect the feeling
of the track?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
And it was just a slight week and I changed
some inflection in it, and because when I when I
first did it, you know, I would say it was
a little bit rush to do it because it was
shortly before her wedding. And then later on when I
came back to it and I played it, I just
naturally slowed it down. It had more meaning to me
(11:08):
actually after she was married, and so such an odd experience,
you know. It's one of these great things that if
you do anything like this that becomes spiritual that it
just happens, you know, the feeling of it, the tempo
of it, and so I slowed it down dramatically and
then bringing in the harmony part of it, brought in
that softer feel to it, you know, and it is
(11:30):
definitely something any father can relate to, you know, hopefully instantly,
hopefully it touches people in that way.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Absolutely absolutely it does.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Did you ever like, I'm sure you felt, you know,
very vulnerable writing this song, and you know, do you
feel like an artist?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You know who?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Because I feel like it's so hard to put your
real emotions or especially when it's something a real lyrically
into a song and then you put yourself out there.
Do you ever feel those like do you feel like
you feel exposed or do you feel like that's the
what artists should do is put themselves out there?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Absolutely, I mean that's how you make a song relatable
is by sort of you know, being vulnerable and exposing yourself.
And I am not typically that vulnerable type of guy.
And so when I first did this, you know, a
year and a half or so ago, my first song,
it was petrifying, you know, because it's okay for me
(12:35):
to have it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Now you put it out there, well, you know, you
open it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
The criticism the boy, this guy's horrible, you know, the lyrics.
They could attack so many things, the melody, the lyrics,
the music, the singing, you know, the voice, and it
was petrifying, especially at this stage of the game. And
I really intended to do it kind of on the side,
like downside, like I was. I didn't tell anybody I
(12:59):
was doing this, just did it, and some friends caught
window and al sudden, you know, social media was being
posted and shared and it took off and for a
new song to hit like one hundred thousand Spotify streams
was pretty decent, you know, but it's it was. And
then you get the reviews, you know, and you kind
(13:19):
of read them with one eye open, like, okay, is
this gonna be good?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Is this going to be bad? You know, like they're
gonna tell me I suck.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
And luckily most of them were very very kind, which
was which was really sweet. But yeah, I think in
order to truly relate to people, or for people to
relate to your music, it has to have vulnerability to it.
I mean, you know it just I think it's it's needed,
but it is very tough as the artist to put
(13:46):
those because every almost every one of my songs is
something about my life and experience something, you know, it's
it's not about something. I don't know how to say that,
it is truly me, you know, and so to let
people have a piece inside of that can be a
little daunting.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, No, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think you've mentioned too that you your life could
be a Netflix series.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
If it were, you know, what genre would it be?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yes, I often say is funny that my life could
could be a Netflix series. And I don't just mean
like one season. I'm good for about ten seasons. I've
had a very eventful life, you know, both great things, tragedies.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Heartbreaks, love.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I mean, it's it's kind of got it all in there.
So I don't know what genre that would be.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Drama, you know, or love or.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
You know, it could honestly, I think heck, you could
even throw horror in there at times, I guess unfortunately,
So I think it would be captivating because I think
each each episode needs and would be different.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
It would be like, wait, where did this come from?
Speaker 5 (15:05):
This isn't your typical Hallmark story where Okay, we know
what's gonna how it starts, what the middle is, and
what the end is, because every season would be that.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Surely that cannot be happening to one person so.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's that's pretty funny though. That's a great show, right.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Oh yeah, but you definitely could.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I've had so many.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Very just like a lot of people's like like to
look at my life and say, you can't make this up.
I'm like, no, you really couldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Man, Sometimes I feel like my life could be. It's
it's definitely a thriller, for sure.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Thriller, for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
There's there's always something like it never ends, like could
I just have a be on an island by myself?
And yeah, man, you know, I love asking this question.
I think I've asked you before, but I don't know.
Maybe maybe it's it's changed. But if the three levels
(16:15):
of influence, money power, respects, if you could choose only one,
which one would you choose?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
And why.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Respect? Okay? Uh?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
And uh, you know, I guess you could think it'd
be an egotistical sort of thing, like I just want
to be respected, But you know, I how the tendency
rely too much at times on what other people think
of me, But it also puts a bit of responsibility
on me. Am I acting and behaving in a way
that people would find respectful and would want to emulate.
And if I'm not, then I'm doing something wrong.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I feel that I completely understand that. How do you
how do you?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
How do you balance sharing, you know, really painful personal
stories and making music that people can enjoy like because
you know, you also want it to feel like obviously
relatable and obviously real. But you know, I don't know
if there's the right formula for it. But I guess
(17:15):
you just kind of wing it and see I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Know, Yeah, I mean you do, and hopefully what you're
feeling and when you're writing it and from the from
the process of doing the lyrics to the melody, you know,
and the music part of it, what instruments in it.
You know, I know in my head what I want
to evoke in a feed mon like what am I
trying to get across?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And so.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You know, I guess I would consider success in that
when people hear it and they relay back to me
what the intent was. Man, when I heard this song,
I felt X whatever that might be depending on what
the songs. And if they say that, I'm like, awesome,
nailed it, you know what I mean. The best compliment
if it's a sad song, especially is when people cry. Obviously,
(18:06):
what a weird goal to have like that makes people cry.
But if I have a song that touches somebody, and
even like the dance, you know, if a father tears up,
I got it across.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You know, at fifty nine, you you're pursuing your dream
of releasing music. What advice would you give to others
thinking it's too late to chase theirs?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
You know the old add ite it's never too late
is very true. And I did it as much for
me as anything else, Like I can now say I
did it right. No, and no matter what happens, whether
you know, whatever comes out of this, because I have
no clue when God does really of what will come
out of this, but I know I did it. I
(18:54):
know I fulfilled a bucket list dream whatever you want
to call it, and I put it out there and
there was a sense of like release, giving first, whatever
you want to call it. Once it got out there,
it's like, huh, okay, you know, because until then, I've
just kind of kept it all to myself, you know,
and I could sit in my room alone and play
the song and feel the feeling and hopefully like it.
(19:18):
But when it gets out there, you know, I've done
my part, I've released it.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
What happens from there is not in my control.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, that's absolutely, and that's you know, that's the thing,
that's the hope. It's like, you know, I was talking
to someone about that and he's, you know, in the
entertainment business, and you know, there's there's ups and downs,
there's ebbs and flows, and sometimes you're not inspired. Sometimes
you are super inspired, but you know, it's really like,
you know, he was like, man, I don't know, I'm
(19:47):
not really where I want to be. And I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Do you feel like it's good to have.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
A a goal to reach or do you feel like
it's just good to create and see what happens instead
of having expectations, because you know, everyone's different.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Some people are they say, well you should.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Expect mm hmm, oh absolutely, And I very much in
my life in the past, especially in business, you always
measure yourself by by some mark, whether it's money, or promotion,
or success or or or or popularity, you know, for people,
whatever that might be. I think we have a tendency
to I've accomplished it when this has happened, rather than
(20:30):
just having accomplished it, you know, like you know, and
so putting out songs. I've done it, you know, I
put them out there. Absolutely, I would love for people to,
you know, to get recording contracts or have an artist,
you know, want to record my songs.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, that, if I would say, would be my goal,
no doubt.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
But you know, it was really cool to hit one
hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube. No did my life change
the next day? No, not really, you know that, you know,
it was great.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know that was awesome, right, because we don't know
what those those those little milestones feel like.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
They just could just feel like oh.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
But I guess in our heads, some subconsciously, we do
think it's something that's you know, I don't know, we're
supposed to feel something grand.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Right, Yeah, I think it's the expectation of how we're
going to feel once we reach the goal that can
be the disappointment, because oftentimes you reach the goal and
you may have euphoria for twenty four hours and then
it goes away and you're like, huh, okay, that didn't
last as long as I thought. It's so disappointing, you know,
it's like setting yourself up for failure. You reach the
goal and you don't feel what you've thought you were
(21:41):
going to feel, or the feeling that high doesn't last
as long as you would like it to.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, yes, it's so funny. I I remember having a premiere.
I did a I mean, it will forever be one
of my, I guess, monumental moments of my career.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I was there and a documentary called Horror Noir and
it was created by a shutter and we had the
premiere and it was all these celebrities, you know, Keith David,
everyone that you would think of in the horror genre
and these legends and and you know, it was a
very pinchy moment, you know, and I'm like, wow, I'm
part of the cast, and it was really really cool.
And then literally the next day it's like no one
(22:22):
who's not there is going to say congratulations or you know,
understand that feeling, right, and it just goes away and
then you're just back to normal it's like it's.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
A split second. It literally is. But I try to
live in the moment.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I don't know, Yeah, and it's such a it's equated
to like a drug or something else. It's like it
feels great in that moment, but sometimes a letdown is
so bad after, you know, it's like it is, it's
over right, you know, and and you want to go
back to the moment when you were enjoying it, you know.
I have a vivid memory way back when when my
little my girls were and who I raised, were young,
(22:59):
and it was Christmas time and it was one of
the few moments that I had a really great moment
of self realization. And so they were unwrapping the gifts whatever,
and I went the other room and I came back
and I stopped and just took it in, the joy
on their faces, the giggling, the laughing, and I remember
vividly thinking to myself, I don't want to forget this moment,
you know, because, especially like at Christmas time, you get
(23:21):
wrapped up in the gotta get this done, gotta do
this done, you know, and get through the stages of Christmas.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And I was really grateful decades later that I.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Can still bring that memory up like that, you know,
and mean as much. And so I wish I did
that more with my life in the moments when when
you know you want to cherish something that you take
a step back, pause and memorize it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, I think that also makes life more you
would look at more like like you would be grateful
for each I guess it'll make you more grateful for
life if we can, you know, live in the moment
and remember because you know, because this time is so
it's fleeting. When you think about it, you're like, whoa,
(24:07):
it's crazy, what's going on with time?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Even greater so as you get older, because really fleeting.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
But yeah, I guess that's you know why you're older.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
People appreciate life more, you know, because you know some
some definitely in some way we're running out of it.
So I do focus on trying to appreciate life more.
I do a really kind of fun, odd interesting as
I write a gratitude list every morning when I wake up,
the ten things I'm grateful for that day or from
the day before, And it really it keeps you in gratitude,
(24:43):
you know, which is a great place to be.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, thank you for that suggestion. That's actually very good
to do. Write it down and yeah, that's that's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
What what do you want as far as like the
by next year?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
What what's something that you have on your bucket list
that you want to you know, accomplish musically?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
The one thing I don't do, surprisingly is I don't
play live, and so it's always been interesting. I mean, yes,
I played in front of people, don't get me wrong,
but I've never gone into like a venue of strangers
and just played, which actually I think would be a
little leasier than playing in front of people, I know,
but but yeah, it's to play play live and feel
(25:33):
that feeling. You know, when you do something on the
internet with Spotify, you know, YouTube, whatever it may be,
you don't get that immediate feedback, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And so the little that I've done live a little bit, it.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Really is an amazing feeling because for me, in those moments,
you can feel the audience, you can see if they're
getting it.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
You can you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You can feed off of that response or you see
that response immediately, as opposed to getting you know, feedback
or getting more likes from getting more shares or you know,
subscribers or whatever that might be.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
You know, yeah, And I think that's the thing too.
We can get caught up in that world of you know,
the the you know, the views, and sometimes you think,
oh man, if no one's looking at this video more
than this other video, it's like, well, is this bad?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Or you start getting.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Your Oh yeah, absolutely. It becomes the numbers. It becomes
the numbers game, you know, as opposed to is it
a being appreciated, understood and or people relating to it?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You know, yeah, exactly exactly. You know. I was going
to ask you because because I'm curious, because you know,
you've been in the music industry now for quite some
time and you've seen some things I'm sure, whether that's
with labels or you know what I've and creating projects.
Do you feel from your point of view and being
(27:07):
in the industry now for some time, do you feel
that we're heading in a more positive direction when it
comes to indie artist.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I think the one thing I think that the you know,
being on the internet and whether it's YouTuber, Spotify, it
is opened the doors to indie artists that never would
have happened opportunity other than seeing Anna bar down the street, right, So, yes,
I think it's opened up some tremendous opportunities, you know
for people like me that I didn't really want to
go and just play in random bars and do all
(27:42):
of that to get my music hurt. And it's such
a bigger stage, you know, but with that comes you know,
how long does that impact last? You know, because I
feel like our.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Tension spans now since we've gotten this are so short.
It's like, wow, that was great, Oh, on to the
next one.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
It's like scrolling through Facebook reels.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
You know, it's like if you know, we're fulfilled for
a second and then it's on to the next one,
you know, And yeah, our attention spans are just less,
So I don't you know, like I'm sure you've seen
stats where people listen to your song. You're like, Okay, seriously,
what did you get out of the first of my song?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
You know, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's like, how Yeah, That's one thing I'm trying to
figure out, is the algorithm and and all that, because
I remember and it's just it's it's I guess it
just depends on the day. The times like who's who's
what's who's all online at a certain time as well,
what's the most traffic you get.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I mean, it's so much.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Stuff to to really break down, and sometimes it can
become overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I'm just like, oh my god, right.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Yeah, it's like the algorithms in this are just ridiculous,
Like down to the minute of the data, you know,
so many I don't know people, Yes, they viewed it for.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
How many minutes or how not even minutes? How many seconds?
Speaker 5 (29:12):
You know, And I get balked down and I'm like, Okay,
the average time they've listened to this particular song is
like twenty seconds.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
And I'll go back and play it and I'm like,
you got like two lines. I don't know. I'm a failure.
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
They didn't even get to the best part of the song.
I'm horrible, you know, or I was horrible for the
first twenty seconds.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Maybe I have exactly like what.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Miss a note in the first twenty seconds? Why is
am I stopping? It'll drive you insane, you know, it
really could. It makes you. It makes me want to
and it is kind sort of a one of those dreams.
I probably I don't know if I would ever do it.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Is like, I really want to go to a strange
town I know nobody and do one of those street performances.
I just want to go to corner, open to my
guitar case and start paying see if anybody wants to
walk up and listen.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
That would be a bit of barometer.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
That would be amazing. I think you should do that.
That sounds like a plan.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I feel like those videos are very interesting and it's
really cool because no one knows you. But then they're
just like you kind of get a gauge of like, Okay,
what works, what song people really gravitate towards more and whatnot?
I mean, because you your repertoire, you have a lot
of songs, a lot of amazing songs. So yeah, I
think that'd be great.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I know, I really.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I've always said that. It's kind of funny. It's getting
up the nerve to do it. But that's why I say,
go to a strange fowner. If these people reject me, okay,
why do I care?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
You know exactly?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
And if they appreciate it, they don't even they're not
even there because they know me.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You know, right.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
They just appreciate good music.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Where can people find you on social media to follow
everything you have going on and things that are coming
down the pipeline.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I do have a website. It's Jimmy Malay music dot com. Uh.
The toughest part is the spelling of my last name,
which is M A L L I A. But I
have all my songs that have been released on there,
all of my you can find my Spotify, you can
find my YouTube, you can find all of that on there.
There's even some merchandise for fun. I went and got
(31:24):
a brand, and it's a pretty cool brand. I have
to say, uh and uh, it's but yeah, mostly there,
I would say that's the best place to start.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I love it. I love it. One word that.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Kind of summarizes dance.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
For you, mm hmm, what would that be?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Love?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I mean that's it's just pure love for a daughter.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Everyone go listen to it, share it, and support as
much as you can. So thank you so much for
coming on again. It's always a pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Oh it was so good to talk to you again.
Thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I appreciate it absolutely and always remember to live, love, laugh.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We'll see you guys next time. Byebye,
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