Ep247 - Vanished At The Vatican: The Emanuela Orlandi Mystery - Creep Street Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Thank you so much, Father Benedict, for coming into the
interview today. As you know, the Catholic Church is a
globally recognized and cherished organization beloved by over a billion
people around the world, and naturally that sort of prestige
comes with some bumps in the roads. So what we
really need is someone with a skilled background and human

(00:29):
resources and pr that knows how to answer some of
the tougher questions that the press and the public may have.
So I'm just gonna give you some scenarios and you
let me know how you might try to approach them.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay, absolutely give them to me.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Let's just say someone were to accuse the Roman Catholic
Church of holding secret sex parties within the Vatican with
let's just say less than age appropriate victims.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
How would you spend that.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Oh well, that would be your typical prayer party, just
a youth prayer party. That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I like that. I like that, very good, very good.
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Now, let's say that you know a lot of people
believe that the Vatican is actually hiding UFO craft and
organic biological specimens from outside of the planet Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
How would you rebut some of those accusations.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
We've all heard of fallen angels, right, this is just
the case of fallen angels being mischaracterized as aliens when
in fact they are servants of the Lord.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Bingo, Bingo, I like it. I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now, what would you say to people that say the
Catholic Church has secretly been laundering money for centuries and
it's sitting on a fast sum of unimaginable wealth.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
That sum of money is all part of the Catholic
Church's plans of charity charity.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I like that. I like that. I like that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Wow, you're really wowing me here, friend. Let's see, I
got a few more questions. Let's say a certain princess
gets kidnapped by a giant turtle.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
What would you do then, giant turtle? Oh, well, from that, obviously,
you just hire a couple of plumbers.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Bingo, you got it.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Wow, Okay, I gotta say you have really blown me
away today, and I think you are probably the perfect
candidate for this role. Before we wrap up the interview
and we give you an offer, do you have any
questions for me?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Not of them related to the job, but I am
curious what is the deal with the orlandy girl?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Uh, you don't excuse me one second. Yeah, yeah, he's
asking about EMMANUELA or Landy. Well, what the hell do
I say?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Oh oh, okay, okay, was kidnapped by a foreign terrorist organized?
Are we gonna use that one again? We use that
every single time.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
What am I supposed to do? Tell him about the
Vatican sex parties? For God's sake? Okay, forgive me, father,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You're right, okay, yes, all right,
for hail Mary's thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, sorry about that. Just had to update my fantasy
football list back there. We got to meet and some
of the Cardinals. We've got a fantasy league going. But yeah,
I'm really impressed by your resume and you should hear
from us soon. It was so nice to meet you.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh great, well yeah, nice meeting you as well. Look
forward to being in touch you.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Take care and have a good day. And may the
Lord be with you.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
May the Lord be with you?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Hey, hey, yes, father, yep, it's done. Now what was
this other question you had for me?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
But no, I'm not going to give you. Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
He's the best player in my league.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Citizens of the Milky Way. My name is Dylan.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Hackworth and I'm Gage Hurley, and you.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Have arrived in the espresso soak streets of Rome. That's right,
you're roman through the mysterious, the bizarre and the unexplained
because you're here on Creep Street. Baby, and boy, old boy,
we've been on a paranormal kick lately. Right now we've
got a flesh and blood true crime conspiracy mystery, like

(05:16):
something straight out of Unsolved Mysteries.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh yeah, this is like an edge of your seat.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
This is like a little touch of Dan Brown, a
touch of Stephen King, a touch of you know. It's
got a little bit of everything, and it's unfortunately a
very true story.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Buckle up, because we're gonna be flying around these cobblestone streets.
Great neck feeds.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Whoo, that's right, net fast Italian car. But first let
me feed you the sacrament of my sources. I got
two articles by Brent Swansor both at Mysterious Universe won
the Mysterious Disappearances of Vatican City and Dark Conspiracies and
a Mysterious Disappearance that tells you all you need to know, folks.

(06:03):
Because disappearances are unfortunately nothing new. We've covered many of them.
Right here on Creep Street. People go missing every day,
Some walk away by choice, and others, well, their stories
aren't so simple. Sometimes it's like the earth just opens
up and swallows someone whole. No note, no sign, not

(06:27):
even a clue left behind as to.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Where they went.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
And while most folks expect this kind of thing to
happen deep in the wilderness, like we've been talking about
shout out to last week's episode about phantom staircases, often
would happen during search and rescue operations, is when they
would encounter these things. Well, sometimes though, they'll happen in
a bustling city, not just in the middle of nowhere,

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right in the heart of one of the most ancient
cities on earth. Every now and then we get a
case that fies logic, a vanishing that unfolds in plain sight,
in broad daylight, right where life is supposed to feel
the safest. But darkness sometimes doesn't wait for you to

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find it. It comes to you, baby, And that brings
us to one of the strangest, most unsettling mysteries of
them all, one that doesn't unfold in some dark, forgotten
corner of the world, but right in the heart of
one of the most sacred places honor Vatican City. Mmm,

(07:37):
hear that Ooh, smell a little pasta. Someone's making a
little pasta Like I said, you smell that espresso in
the air.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh is it a macchiato?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
They're oh wow, there goes a fast Italian car. Oh oh, hello, ladies, bellissimo.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
The very name of Vatican c He conjures images of
towering cathedrals, ancient relics, and old Michelangelo's Immaculate frescoes, Old
Mickey Lang. It's the spiritual epicenter of over a billion
people around the globe, a place drenched in incense and

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Latin hymns, and held in reverence in the hearts of many,
the beating heart of the Roman Catholic Church. It is
to many the last place one would expect to find
traces of something unholy, and yet beneath the ornate, gold
and marble, behind the solemn rituals and holy processions, something

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else stirs. Beginning in the nineteen eighties, a series of
disappearances would shake the tiny city state to its core.
Quiet vanishings, people gone without a trace, the kind of
disappearances that left behind more questions than answers and hush
secrets the Church would.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Rather keep buried.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
And believe me, the Catholic Church has had a few
of those, because when people go missing in the Vatican,
oh Mama, it's not just a case of where they went,
it's a matter of who wanted them gone, and it
quickly became a global news story. For as much prestige
and reverence is held for the Vatican, the city itself

(09:27):
is just one hundred and twenty one acres in size.
It is, in fact the smallest independent state in the world.
But of course, what the Vatican lacks in size, it
more than makes up for in power, prestige, and secrecy.
Walled off from the rest of Rome like a medieval fortress,

(09:48):
the Vatican City is a theocratic, sacradotal, monarchical state where
the Pope reigns as both the head of the church
and the head of state. It's where the sake mingles
with the political and inevitably leads to intrigue. And let's
not forget it's a global tourist magnet, drawing millions each

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year to marvel at sights like the Sistine Chapel's ceiling,
or to even prey under the vast dome of Saint
Peter's Basilica. But beneath the surface of this holy stronghold
lies on the other side, aside they don't advertise, and
as we'll soon learn, it's in this unlikely setting that
a series of strange and chilling vanishings would unfold. The

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most infamous and terrifying of these disappearances took place in
the summer of nineteen eighty three. Her name was Emmanuela
or Landy. She was just fifteen years old and a
second year student at a high school in Rome. Or
Landy was said to be wonderfully bright, musical, and full

(10:53):
of life. She was the daughter of a Vatican employee,
a man whose job was to organize papal functions. Someone
deeply embedded in the daily workings and bureaucracy of the
Holy See. Emmanuela or Landy wasn't just a visitor or
a tourist. She literally was a citizen of Vatican City.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
On June twenty second, nineteen eighty three, it was a
warm Roman evening. Emmanuela was running late for a flute
lesson at her music school, a place she attended three
times a week. She left her family's apartment inside the
Vatican walls and stepped out into the ancient streets of Rome,

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and never would she come back home. There was no goodbye.
She was just gone without a trace. It was as
if the eternal city had simply swallowed her whole, and
what followed would be a decade's long nightmare for the
Orlandi family. Later that same evening, Emmanuela's older sister received

(12:06):
a phone call. It was Emmanuela herself on the line.
She explained that she'd been delayed because she stopped to
speak with a man, someone claiming to be a representative
from Avon Cosmetics. He'd offered her a part time job
selling beauty products, and she agreed to meet with him
to talk more, which, in my opinion, should already throw

(12:29):
up some red flags there. You know, people don't just
come to you for a job like to people, you
know what I mean, unless it's like a multi level
marketing scheme or something like that. She allegedly met this
supposed Avon rep before her music class and even told
a friend about it. Then, after her lesson, she said

(12:50):
goodbye to that friend outside of the music school, and
that's when things took a turn. According to witnesses. Emanuela
was last seen standing at a bus stop. A dark
green BMW pulled up to the curve. The door opened
and Emmanuela climbed in, and that was it, gone with

(13:12):
no trace, no witnesses who could clearly identify the driver,
just the echo of a car engine fading into the
Roman night, and a fifteen year old girl who vanished
as suddenly as if she'd been plucked from the earth.
But of course what came next only made things stranger.

(13:35):
When Emmanuela failed to return home that night, her parents
were naturally worried, but they were told not to panic.
The authorities at first just shrugged it off. Teenagers disappear
all the time, they'd say, she probably ran off with friends,
maybe got distracted, but she'll be back.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh but she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
The next morning came and went, and still no sign
of Emmanuela. Desperation began to take root, and her parents
reached out to the music school, hoping for answers. Maybe
she'd stayed later, maybe someone had seen her there, But
the director gave them a response that would rattle both

(14:17):
them and the case itself. Emmanuela had never shown up
for class at all. She'd vanished before she even made
it to the building. That was the moment her disappearance
became undeniable. This wasn't just some teen runoff in the night.

(14:39):
This was now officially a missing person's case.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
And now they say the first twenty four hours are
critical in a missing person's case. They really should have
taken that seriously.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Don't they.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
They even have like a true crime show called like
the First forty eight or something like that, and it's about.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Like forty eight hours. I think, I.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Think that's what it's called. Well, yeah, and yeah, that's
what they say. And so when you realize you've kind
of burned so much time thinking that she at least
made it to the class. But here's the thing, shoot
called and let her sister know she was meeting with
some avon rep.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Some guy.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, he obviously would become the instant person of interest.
Whoever he is.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Look for a guy out there trying to sell you eyeliner,
Bring him on down, Bring.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Him down to the station.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, the Orlandi family sprang into action, placing ads in
local newspapers pleading for information. They included their home phone number,
hoping praying that someone might know something that a witness
would come forward, maybe even Emmanuela herself might even call home.
But what happened next was not a moment of comfort.

(15:51):
Oh it was weird, because soon that phone did ring
a ding ding, and what came through then was not
Emmanuela's voice, but something that would throw this already strange
case into a realm of mystery, paranoia, in conspiracy that
would grow darker with every call. The phone call started

(16:15):
just three days after the girl's disappearance. On June twenty fifth,
a man called the Orlandi household and identified himself as
a sixteen year old boy named Pierre Luigi. His voice
was calm and reassuring. He said that he'd been at
the Piazza Novona, one of Rome's most famous and crowded squares,

(16:37):
with his fiance, which side note, a sixteen year old
with a fiance, I don't know. Maybe that's maybe that's
an Italian thing, maybe that's I don't know, but anyway,
that's where they had supposedly encountered a girl matching Emmanuela's description.
According to him, the girl introduced herself not as Emmanuela,

(16:57):
but as Barbarella. She claimed she'd run away from home,
said she'd been selling Avon products and was now living
with a group of other runaways. She said she was fine,
and furthermore that she didn't want to be found.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
It was a story that could.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Somewhat make sense a teenage girl if she had strict parents,
and you would think her father, being a Vatican employee,
maybe she was living under a more strict thumb. You know,
you're young, and you're rebellious. You like that rock and
roll music, you know what I.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Mean, and hey, it's hard to stay away.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
From it, that's right. Maybe she got fed up with
the pressure and expectations and went off chasing some kind
of freedom in the big city. But even as he spoke,
something about this sixteen year old story didn't sit right.
Why the fake name, or.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Why reach out at all?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
And this was only the beginning, because that call was
the first of many, each one stranger than the last.
At first, the Orlandi family didn't know what to make
of the boy's story. I mean, Barberella, a runaway Avon
girl in Piazza Novana, All of it just sounded fishy.

(18:20):
But then Pierre Luigi began to share details, specific details
about Atmanuela that had never been made public. He said
she was carrying her flute, that she was wearing her
glasses even though she didn't like them, and that she'd
recently had her haircut. And all of this was true. Remember,

(18:42):
Emmanuela was supposed to be going to music class, So
I think, of all things, the flute kind of give
you a glimmer of like, oh, maybe this person's telling
the truth. Because the flute thing, if they didn't include that,
or even if they included that she was supposed to
be at music school, who knows what instrument she was
going to play. All of it was true. Suddenly this

(19:03):
wasn't just some crank call. It was getting weird, certainly,
but the details were also clicking. Three days later, that
phone would ring again, and on the line was another
male voice, this one calling himself Mario. Now, I just
wanted to say, pier Luigi. Now Mario, I mean, who's

(19:27):
calling next?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Toad?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, anyway, this Mario claimed to be the owner of
a bar near the music school that Emmanuela was attending.
Mario said the girl had come into his bar recently.
She called herself Barbara. She looked like the description of
the missing girl, and she told him she'd run away
from home, but that she did plan to return for

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her sister's wedding again. It was just believable enough to
send the family and the investigators working the case into
a spiral. Was Emmanuela out there somewhere alive but hiding?
Was she being manipulated by captors or some sort of
weird cult? Was her life in danger? And what was

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with the name Barbara or Barbarella. The pattern of strange
phone calls, though, would continue, but soon the voices on
the other end of the line would stop offering reassurances
and start making demands. By now, the entire city of
Rome was looking for this fifteen year old girl. Images

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of her young, happy face were posted on thousands of
flyers plastered across the city.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
They were everywhere street corners, storefronts, church doors.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
You couldn't walk a block without seeing the name Emmanuela.
And then the Pope himself, Pope John Paul the second
Old Johnny two, to the pulpit multiple times, pleading publicly
for Emmanuela's release.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Each time he.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Implored those responsible to please show mercy to let the
girl go, but mercy wasn't coming. Instead, the calls became darker, aggressive,
and more frequent, not to mention, always anonymous. And this
time the callers weren't pretending to be helpful witnesses. They

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weren't claiming to be friends or bar owners or curious strangers. No, no, no, no.
They claimed to be terrorists. They said that EMMANUELA had
been taken, kidnapped and held hostage by a shadowy group
demanding the release of one man, Mamet Ali Asha, a

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name that sent shivers through the Vatican.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Asha was a.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Turkish Man who would tempted to assassinate the Pope just
two years earlier in Saint Peter's Square. And now these
mysterious callers were saying, let him go, where the girl dies? Now,
whatever this was, it was becoming more than just a kidnapping.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, it sounds like part of some elaborate plot, some
sort of revenge plot, like a.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Political like crime.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, it's becoming more than a mere missing person's case.
The voice of the next caller, though, was calm, deliberate,
and chilling in its poise, and unmistakably American. The tone
was polished, like someone used to making deals under stressful situations.

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The Orlandis and the investigators called him the American. This
mysterious caller was a negotiator, and he made it clear
what he wanted and exchange release mamet Aliasha and Emmanuela
would be returned unharmed. He said the Pope had twenty

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days to approve the negotiation. And he didn't just say
he had the girl. He actually proved it. In one call,
the American played a recording of a girl's voice. She
was terrified but alive. The voice sounded very much like Emmanuela.

(23:31):
In another call, pooh, he saw there fifty and raised them.
Another he upped the Annie folks. He sent photo copies
of her music school ID, and then sheets of the
very music she had been studying, and finally a handwritten
note believed to be from Emmanuela herself. So, I mean

(23:53):
the fact he's got her school ID. I mean, so
this is legit. This isn't just crank calls, and what
is this is legit? This is the real deal, the.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
School idea especially. But I'd be curious if they took
a look at the handwriting of the note and compared
it to other copies of.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Hers right, And surely I would assume the investigators did so.
I mean, so now we are confirmed that they at
least at one time had the girl in their possession.
Each item was chillingly specific, each one, making this mysterious
man's claims impossible to deny. Whoever live Americano was, he

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wasn't bluffing, and whatever was going on, it wasn't just
a kidnapping. This was a political power play weaponized through
one innocent fifteen year old girl. But despite the Pope's
public please and the eerie precision of the American's threats,
Emmanuela never came home. The American, however, wasn't done. In

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one of his later calls, he claimed that every pre
vious caller, such as Peter, Luigi, Mario, and even the
so called bar owner, had all been part of the
same operation, a coordinated front of a terrorist organization working
together to keep the Orlandi family confused and the Vatican

(25:18):
on its toes. He said, outright, they were all in
on it.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
What a tangled web this is becoming.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I know, and it's only gonna get weirder, baby, because
Charlotte's still spinning her web.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Whoa, man, that's what we need. Another entertainment reference we
already got. Mario Luigi, we got George Clooney's the American rilla,
Jane Fondo. I mean it's getting a little crowded in here.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I mean, did Tarantino do this? Has anyone checked in
on him? Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
My gosh. And that's when Samuel L. Jackson called just kidding.
In total, the American made sixteen calls, Each one was
traced frustratingly to different public telephone booths scattered throughout Rome,
and he never slipped up, never revealing more than what

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he wanted to, and always he remained calm and calculated.
It seemed for a time like authorities were on the
Cuspas something, that perhaps they were finally pulling back the
veil that was hiding the truth. And then it all
fell apart. Despite the mounting tension and chilling evidence the
American had provided, such as the recordings, the school id,

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the personal items, the official investigators publicly declared that there
was no concrete evidence linking Emmanuela's abduction to the attempted
assassination of Pope John Paul the second merely rumors. Now, yeah,
maybe this is people pretending to be part of that group,
Turkish terrorist group. But I mean you can't, Yes, you

(26:59):
know that for sure. I mean yes, that I would
think that links it. How can you out how can
you rule it out? Well with that statement, the trail
began to grow cold, leeds dry up, and one of
the most baffling disappearances in Vatican history was left to
radio silence. But then, on July eighth, came another call,

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this time another voice. Only this time it wasn't just bizarre,
it was terrifying. The voice on the other end of
the line spoke with what the witnesses described as a
Middle Eastern accent, and gone was the almost theatrical cadence
of the American. This caller was blunt, cold, and baby.

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They meant business.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
They brought in the shark.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
That's right, they brought in the tough guy because he
didn't mince words. He said he had Emmanuela and if
his demands were not met, she would The ultimatum was clear,
release Mamet ali Asha within twenty days or the girl
would be executed. This was not a plea, it was

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a threat. But the Vatican refused, and just like that,
the case so saturated with theories and false leads and
phone calls from every corner of the globe.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Fell off the map, the.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Call stopped, and the trail vanished, and Emmanuela or Landy
was never heard from again. Well decades have passed and
authorities have pursued hundreds of tips, investigating countless sightings, following
every breadcrumb that could possibly lead to her, but every
path would lead to a dead end, and the Vatican,

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a place drenched in centuries of sacred mystery, became the
backdrop of one of the most enduring and disturbing vanishing
in modern memory. Yet, over the years, the disappearance of
Emmanuela has become a tangled knot of conspiracy and secrecy.
With each passing decades, theories have only multiplied. Some are

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chillingly plausible, while others sound like the stuff of espionage
thrillers and Catholic horror films. One of the earliest and
most persistent theories is the one floated by the mysterious
calls themselves, that Emmanuela was taken by a terrorist organization
hell bent on freeing Mamet Aliasha, the very man who

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had attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul the Second just
two years prior. The phone calls, especially those from the
American seem to back this narrative with the eerie specificity,
producing proof of life, insider knowledge of her possessions, and
threats that echoed with real menace. To some, this was

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enough to buy the it was a covert trade, a
young girl's life in exchange for a would be papal assassin.
But others weren't so sure, because as solid as those
claims sounded, there was always something a little too theatrical,
a little too perfectly constructed. The name most often linked

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to this particular thread of the mystery is a shadowy
far right Turkish nationalist group known as the Gray Wolves,
the same organization to which Mahmet Aliyasha himself belonged, a
group already known for political violence and extremism, and the
idea that they might orchestrate a high profile kidnapping wasn't

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far fetched. What was far fetched was what came next.
While serving time for the attempted assassination of the Pope,
Asha gave a televised prison interview with an Italian news program,
and in this he stated flatly that Emmanuela or Landy
had in fact been taken by the Gray Wolves, and

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not only that.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
But that she was still alive.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
According to him, the girl had been moved to a
cloistered convent where she was living in secrecy, well outside
of the public eye. It was the kind of claim
that sparked some hope and even wilder speculation, But like
so many pieces in this dark and baffling puzzle, Asha's
statement lacked one crucial ingredient evidence. There was no location,

(31:39):
He gave no names, no documentation, nothing to follow up on,
and given Asha's history of contradictory statements and self mythologizing,
it left investigators wondering whether this was another piece of
the truth or just yet another layer of smoke and
a story that only grew hazier the deeper you look. Well,

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even decades later, Mamet Dali Asha didn't stop fanning the
flames of mystery. In two thousand and six, he published
a letter that once again threw him and the shadowy
Gray Wolves back into the center of the Orlandy case.
But this time he upped the ante. In this letter,

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Asha claimed that not only had Orlandy been taken by
the Gray Wolves in an attempt to secure his release,
but that she wasn't the only one. According to him,
another missing girl Murilla Gregory, who had vanished just forty
days before. Emmanuela, in similarly strange circumstances, had also been

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captured by the terrorist group. Two disappearances, both in nineteen
eighty three, both young women, both unsolved, now apparently both linked.
But Asha he didn't stop there. He claimed that after
their abduction, the girls had been transported to a mysterious

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quote royal palace in Liechtenstein, the tiny principality nestled between
Switzerland and Austria. As for what happened to them after that,
Asha gave no details, just an implication that they were
still alive, somewhere behind gilded walls, yet still hidden in

(33:27):
plain sight. Like everything else he said. It left the
public and investigators wondering was there any truth to his
bizarre tale or was it just another twist in this story.
When mamet Ali Asha was released from prison in twenty ten,
many wondered if this might finally bring some clarity to

(33:49):
the twisted, years long saga surrounding the disappearance of Orlandy. Instead,
things only got stranger.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Well, this is creep Street, that's right, baby, and it
only gets strange.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I mean, what if it was like she came home
and everything was okay the end.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I mean, that would be a twist all on its own.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Absolutely well. Shortly after his release, Asha appeared in a
televised interview, and what he said stunned even those familiar
with his past antics. Not only did he double down
on his involvement with the Gray Wolves and the connection
to our landy, but this time, oh.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
He played the Vatican card. He threw the Vatican under
the bus. He claimed quite.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Matter of factly, that it was the Vatican who had
hired him to assassinate Old Johnny Paul intrigue, my friends,
would the Vatican hire someone to assassinate their own leader?
I mean might sound crazy at first, but think about Kennedy.
Think about what we know or what we don't know.

(35:01):
How there's a lot of weird stuff behind the Kennedy assassination.
I mean, who's to say that same kind of things
don't go on in the Vatican, you know what I mean,
if they've got a pope.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Then absolutely yeah. Anytime you got like a very hierarchical
structure like that, not everybody's going to agree with what's
being decided by whoever's at the top, right and so
sometimes this kind of espionage's kind of collusion underneath is
not uncommon at all.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Right at two Usha hm oh, But that wasn't all,
because Usha then claimed that or Landy had not died
and had not been abducted by foreign terrorists, but instead
had been held captive by the Vatican itself. According to him,
she'd been secretly cloistered in a Catholic monastery somewhere in

(35:53):
central Europe, living out her days quietly as a nun.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Love that Pokemon cloister.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Cloyster bo came out.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
No evidence, photos, or documentation, of course, just another outlandish
twist from a man whose claims were growing more surreal
by the year. Authorities and journalists alike began to wonder
whether these were just desperate grabs for attention or the
fragmented whispers of a deeply paranoid mind. Regardless, his statements

(36:30):
only added another layer of haunting speculation to an already
conspiracy secrecy and sorrow soaked mystery.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
And let's be honest, he had a lot of time
to think about this, yeah, obviously, so you never know,
I mean, and what he is spinning is a tale
of a lot of deception going on. By a lot
of different people, pretty big, bold conspiracy claim. So it's
possible what he's telling the truth, obviously, but it's also

(37:00):
so possible that he manufactured a story.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Right because also, like, why do that job for the
Vatican and then just tell everyone it was the Vatican
and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Why?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, for the Gray Wolves, it's a little different because
they claim to you know, it's a little different in
that regard, But it's like, if he did do it
for the Vatican, why then tell everyone he did it
for the Vatican, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Like, and not until after I mean, he'd been talking
to the press while he was in prison, right right, right,
So he doesn't end up coming out with this detail
until he's after he's released, right exactly, which you'd also
think that that would be the time he'd be most
vulnerable to retaliation from the Vatican.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Absolutely absolutely, you'd think if he was in prison and
they wanted him quiet, they got him right there to
kill him, you know what I mean? Yeah, Epstein style,
you know, Oh, he killed himself and the security camera
just happened to go down right at the right time,
you know, that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Exactly, very true, very possible.

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before they go live on the episode. Now, without further ado,
back to today's story. A thread that seems to run

(38:51):
through nearly every theory surrounding the Orlandy case is this
that the Vatican knew far more than it let on,
and maybe was even involved from the very beginning. One
of the more persistent rumors points directly to a man
named Paul Marcinkus, an American archbishop who at the time

(39:13):
was not just any clergyman. He was the head of
the Vatican Bank, and a man whose name was already
floating as being tied up in financial scandal. The theory
suggested that Emmanuela's father, Eric Cole or Landy, who was himself,
as we know, a Vatican employee, may have stumbled onto

(39:35):
something he wasn't meant to see, something criminal and tied
to Marcinkus and his alleged shadowy dealings. Rather than risk exposure,
some believe Marcinkus orchestrated the girl's disappearance to silence the
potential leak. It said he leveraged his powerful connections to
ensure that no real investigation could ever gain traction. Indeed,

(40:01):
Marcinkus never answered a single official question regarding the or
Landy case. He never sat for an interview or testified.
He remained wrapped in the protection of the Vatican until
his death in two thousand and six, when he may
have taken the full unholy truth with him to the beyond.

(40:22):
To this day, for many who have followed this case,
that silence from inside the Holy City still speaks loudly.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Own baby, baby, baby Baby.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Just when you thought it couldn't get more twisted in
steps the mafia. In twenty eleven, a new and deeply
disturbing chapter emerged when Antonio Mancini, a former high ranking
member of Rome's notorious crime syndicate, the Banda della Magliana,

(40:54):
came forward with a claim that could blow the lid
off the entire Orlandy mystery. According to Mancini, or Landy
hadn't been snatched by a foreign terrorist group or hidden
away in a convent. She was taken by the mob
why to collect a debt, of course, and a big

(41:14):
one at back. You see, according to Mancini, the Vatican,
specifically the Vatican Bank, had borrowed massive sums of money
from the mafia, and when it came time to pay up,
the check never cleared. So the Bandadella Magliana did what
the mafia does best. They made a threat impossible to ignore.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
They made him an avecan fumes ew.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
They kidnapped the daughter of a Vatican insider and held
her as collateral proof that they meant business. And the
most chilling part is that this may be more than
just mob Bravado. Mancini pointed out to a web of
connections between the Orlandy case and one of the most
infamous deaths in Vatican linked financial history, the murder of

(42:09):
Roberto Calvi, known as quote God's Banker due to his
close ties to the Vatican. Calvey was found swinging beneath
London's Blackfriar's Bridge in nineteen eighty two, his pockets stuffed
with cash and precious stones. While the official story tried

(42:29):
to pass it off his side, few believed that a
man could tie his own hands behind his back and
hang himself from a scaffolding beam, especially when considering the
man was allegedly embroiled in a complex Vatican linked money
laundering scheme that was said to have gone sideways.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Why would you tie your own hands behind your back
in a scenario like that?

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Exactly exactly, According to Mancini, Orlandi's disappearance was the final morning.
The mafia had already shown what happened to men like Calvie,
and now they were putting the squeeze on the Holy
See in the most brutal way imaginable, at that through

(43:14):
a young girl snatched from the streets of Rome, never
to be seen again. It was a message written in
fear and silence and maybe even blood, innocent blood. Now,
if the mystery of EMMANUELA or Landy wasn't already deep enough,
well put on your freaking scuba gear, because in two

(43:37):
thousand and five, things took a bizarre and downright cinematic turn.
One of the weirdest and most compelling leads the case
had ever seen. An anonymous phone call was made to
the Italian crime show Chi la Visto or Who Is Seen?
And what this caller said was rattling, to say the least.

(44:00):
According to them this unnamed source, the KEDA unraveling the
Orlandi case did not lie in a convent or foreign
government archive, or even the Vatican vault, but in a tomb,
a very specific tomb, that of the infamous Roman mobster
en Rico Renatino di Pettis now de Petis. He was

(44:24):
no two bit street cruk baby. Here was one of
the top brass in the Bandadella Magliana, the same mafia
group that Mancini had tied to the Vatican's dirty dealings.
And according to this anonymous tipster, Depettus had killed Emmanuela
or Landy as a favor, a bloody favor carried out

(44:47):
on behalf of Cardinal Ugo Polletti, the Vicar General of
Rome at the time. His name is spelled Ugo. I
don't know if that's Ugo, but Ugo I'm assuming Ugo
Pilletti is probably.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
The right way to say it.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Ugo sounds like a character cardinal ag.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Oh, yeah, it's Ugo Pulletti.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
Avert your eyes, vitiys, it's Cardinal Ugo Pulletti.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Hello, your holiness.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
The idea was so wild that many dismissed it outright
until Depettus's former girlfriend stepped out of the shadows and
she confirmed that he had indeed told her that he
was involved in Orlandi's disappearance. And suddenly what had once
been written off as a prank call started to take
on a very sinister tone of possibility. What made the

(45:38):
whole thing stranger was where Depettus was buried. Despite his
criminal record and blood soak reputation, Depettus had been laid
to rest in the prestigious crypt of the Basilica of
Santa Pilliane sorry of Santa Paulinari in Rome, a sacred
spot typically reserved for saint scholars and high ranking clergy,

(46:04):
not gangsters, least usually not gangsters. And it's true his
burial there raised eyebrows nearly up to the hairline, and
it had so for years, But now it might even
be raising the dead, figuratively and perhaps literally, because it's
more anonymous calls trickled in. The message was always the same,

(46:27):
look inside the tomb. The answer is in the tomb.
A murdered girl, a mafia don and powerful cardinal, and
a sealed tomb in a holy basilica. Even if this
were fiction, you'd have to say it was far fetched.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
But baby, this is creep street. Whoo now.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Enrico de Pettis, he was a smooth operator. He was charismatic,
calculating and utterly ruthless. As top dog in the notorious
abandadella Magliana, de Pettus ran Rome's underworld with a velvet
glove over brass knuckles.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
It's a very poetic.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Combo, I know, right, Velvet and brass.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Velvet and brass my next jazz album.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
This was the same gang that had its claws deep
in the Vatican's pockets, and it was tied to the
mysterious death of Quote God's banker Roberto Calvi. And according
to rumors, Depettis had more than a few friends on
the police force payroll. If you remember back, they kept saying, oh,

(47:33):
this has no ties to the assassination of the Pope.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Maybe it did, Maybe it didn't.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Maybe there's a reason maybe it didn't.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Maybe cof maybe take a height, maybe mind your own business.
Maybe you put on some concrete shoes and go for
a swim.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
But even for a man as dangerous as to Pettus,
karma or perhaps divine justice caught a black ketchup. In
nineteen ninety he was brutally gunned down in the historic
Campo de Fiori Roman Piazza, known more for its postcard
charm than mafia bloodbaths. Renatino or aka de Pettus. He

(48:18):
was ambushed right there in the open, and the hit
was clean and calculated. If ever, someone was sending a message,
this brutal killing was sent express baby, and then came
once again, those anonymous calls ringing on the phone. Murmurs
that the tomb of Depettus, sealed beneath the sacred stones

(48:40):
of the Roman Basilica, might just be more than a
resting place. Some believe that it didn't just hold the
bones of an old gangster. It might be the very
hiding place of Amnuela or Landy's body, the Vatican's missing girl,
a corpse buried beneath marble and mystery.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Was the church harboring a.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Secret in its sanctuary or was it just one more
thread in a tangled tapestry of power, silence and sin. Literally,
as if I haven't said this enough already, here's where
things got really strange.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah up till now, it's been pretty much your standard
story beats really.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
But folks, the final resting place of Enrico de Pettus,
the ruthless underworld kingpin and Vatican connected mobster, is nestled
not in some unmarked grave or shady crypt on the
outskirts of town. No, he's buried in the opus day
Basilica of Santa Pelianae, of Santa Polione, of Santa Pollioneri,

(49:47):
who wants to.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Be a.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Right in the heart of old Rome, just a stones
throw away from the elegant Piazza Nirvana.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
St.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Pettis, the capo of one of the most blood soaked
crime syndicates in Italy's history, is laid to rest in
hollowed ground, a church burial site typically reserved for high
ranking clergy, the elite of the religious world, bishops, cardinals.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Men of God, and then this guy.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Apparently, and if we remember the Piazza Novana is where
one of the first callers said they saw Emmanuela or Landy,
or at least someone who looked like her.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Now, how did that happen?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
How did that douchebag like de Pettis end up in
the Waysilica? Well, the story goes that Cardinal Ugo or
Ugo Paletti himself gave the nod of approval.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
But why.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
According to official channels, it was because de Pettus had
a change of heart on his deathbed. It said that
he repented for his sins, hand over fat donos to
the church, and even got involved in charity work with
the poor. But come on, we're talking about a man

(51:11):
who built an empire on drugs, extortion, and cold blooded murder,
and now he's buried among the saints. I mean, obviously
anyone can repent theoretically, but hey, maybe that's not repentance.
Maybe that's power hiding in the shadows. Whether this act
of holy hospitality was granted out of genuine forgiveness or

(51:33):
under the weight of something darker, Well, that's the million
lira question, isn't it. And here's where the whole thing
starts to feel less like a kidnapping case and more
like a Dan Brown novel that took a sharp turn
into The Exorcist.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
That'd be a cool crossover.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Actually, that actually would be.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
For seven years, the Vatican stonewalled any attempt to crack
open the tomb to Pettus. Seven years of public outcry,
seven years of desperate pleas from Orlandi's family, seven years
of silence from the Vatican, and the longer they waited,
the louder the rumors became, especially after de Pettus's former

(52:16):
girlfriend came forward in two thousand and eight with a
bombshell that none other than Archbishop Paul Marcinkus, the Vatican
banking heavyweight, had personally hired De Pettus. That revelation, paired
with the Vatican's resistance to so much as lift the
lid off the tomb, poured gasolene on the raging rumors

(52:39):
that the Church wasn't just complicit, they were covering something up.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Remember Cardinal Poletti, the man who had sanctioned the gangster's
burial in a place reserved for the pious.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
He had passed away.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Back in ninety seven, so there was no one left
alive with the authority or the grapefruits to.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Clear the air.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Finally, though, after years of pressure from the Orlandi family
and Italian citizens as a whole, and international scrutiny on
top of that, the Vatican caved and they agreed to
open the tomb and baby. The air was thick with anticipation.
Some thought they'd find Emmanuela's remains laying beside the gangsters,

(53:23):
and others were convinced that they'd find the tomb completely empty,
that the pettis had never been there at all, that
the whole thing was a sleight of hand. But whatever
they would find the world would be watching and bracing
for what secrets might be unearthed beneath the polished marble floors.
The discovery, though, was so weird and downright wacky that

(53:46):
investigators couldn't help but start looking for more hidden chambers
in the crypt.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
And who could blame them?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
They had just cracked open a mobster's jewel encrusted tomb
beneath a holy basilica and found not only his very
well dressed remains, but also over two hundred boxes brimming
with unidentified human bones. And that's not exactly standard fair

(54:16):
for your average Vatican burial. Initial tests dated the remains
get this to sometime before the Napoleonic era, but the
mystery didn't in there a full scaled DNA analysis was ordered,
and yet even now the results remain murky, no clear answers,

(54:38):
just more secrecy. And to this day, the case of
Emmanuela or Landy is still unsolved, still hanging in the
incense thick air of the Vatican City like a ghost
that refuses to be exercised. But perhaps one of the
most disturbing allegations tied to our Landy's disappearance came in

(54:59):
twenty two well, and it came from someone who was
no outsider, Gabriel Amorth, one of the Catholic Church's top exorcists,
a man whose claim to have performed over seventy thousand
exorcisms in his lifetime, and he dropped a bombshell that
rattled even the most jaded of years. And by the way,

(55:21):
William Friedkin, who directed The Exorcists, made a documentary about
this man too. According to Amorth, Emmanuela wasn't just kidnapped.
She was abducted for use as a slave in the
Vatican sex parties, and after enduring unspeakable horrors. She was
murdered to silence the scandal. Amreth went further, claiming that

(55:46):
diplomats from foreign embassies to the Holy See were all
involved as well. The Vatican's response to these horrifying accusations
was silence. No denials or clarify cationations, just dead silence.
And in a case already soaked in secrecy, that silence

(56:06):
spoke volumes. Amerth was quoted saying it has already previously
been stated by deceased Monsignor Simone Duca, an archivist at
the Vatican who was asked to recruit girls for parties
with the help of the Vatican gendarmes. I believe Emmanuela

(56:27):
ended up in this circle. I never believed in the
international theory of overseas kidnappers. I have motives to believe
that this was just a case of sexual exploitation. Now,
to be fair, Father Amert's accusations, much like his career,
should be taken with a grain of sacramental salts. The

(56:50):
man was no stranger to controversy, and his public statements
often flirted with the edge of the unbelievable. He once
declared that both Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin had been
possessed by literal demons, and claimed that Pope Pious the
twelfth had tried unsuccessfully to perform a long distance exorcism
on Hitler. But yeah, I mean, let's be real, if

(57:11):
anyone was possessed by demons, it would be Hitler and
Stalin obviously, but not to mention Amerth's fierce insistence that
the Harry Potter book series was a gateway to Satanic corruption.
So while Amerth's accusations added a bone chilling wrinkle to
the Orlandy case, they also come from a man whose

(57:32):
spiritual worldview wasn't exactly grounded in the every day. So
despite the fog of all the whirling rumors, endless PARADEI
of theories and now and then, something a little more
tangible would break through. On the morning of May fourteenth,
two thousand and one, a bizarre discovery was made at
the Church of Gregory the Seventh, not far from the

(57:55):
Vatican walls. And there, inside a confessional, of all places,
someone stumbled upon a human skull. It was a skull
missing its jawbone and eerily nestled beside an image of
Padre Peel the famed saints said to bear the marks
of stigmata. Tests were swiftly conducted to determine if the

(58:17):
remains might belong to or Landy, and for a brief,
breathless moment, it felt like this could be the break
in the case they needed. But in true fashion for
this endlessly frustrating mystery, the tests would come back negative.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
It was not her.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
And yet, even decades after her vanishing, reports and sightings
of Emmanuela still surfaced from across Italy and various corners
of Europe, each one offering hope that's quickly dashed against
the rocks, a face in the crowd, or a name
on a convent roll, but nothing ever sticks. The Vaticans

(58:56):
lost girl remains just that, very much lost. For all
the breadcrumb trails and anonymous callers and headlines that came
with promise of the truth, the fate of or Landy
and Murilla Gregory, the other teen who disappeared forty days
before her, both remained cloaked in shadow. Two girls plucked

(59:18):
from ordinary lives in the heart of one of the
most scrutinized cities on Earth, and gone without a trace.
Their vanishings feel less like isolated tragedies and more like
threads in a deeper, darker tapestry, because through it all,
the Vatican has maintained a curiously distant posture, officially silent

(59:40):
and unofficially evasive. Time and again, questions are met with
carefully worded statements and stony indifference. For many, it's led
to a gnawing suspicion that behind the gilded doors of
Vatican City, someone knows more than they're saying, Maybe a
lot more. But if there are answers buried beneath the

(01:00:03):
marble and incense, they've stayed sealed tight for four decades.
As one investigator put it, quote, there are still people
alive and inside the Vatican who know the truth well.
For more than forty years, the disappearance of EMMANUELA or
Landy is loomed like a shadow over Vatican City, a

(01:00:26):
rental wrapped in silence, buried beneath layers of power, politics,
and piety. For the Orlandi family, the pain has never dulled.
No arrests, no confessions, just decades of unanswered questions, rumors,
and doors that seem to close tighter the closer you
get to them. Was this a cold case of terrorism,

(01:00:49):
a girl who simply ran away and vanished into the
cracks of the world, or was it something more insidious,
something festering within the walls of a holy city built
on faith. Each theory has only deepened that fog, and
so the Vatican Disappearance remains to this day one of

(01:01:10):
the most chilling, confounding, and unresolved mysteries of the modern era.
Maybe someday the truth will find its way to the light,
but for now, the silence speaks louder, Oh, folks. That

(01:01:33):
is the case of Emmanuela or Landy. I mean, you've
got to feel bad for the family because what a
slap in the face to have it just keep coming back,
keep coming back. And you don't want to say brush
aside anything, even the most outlandish things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
You don't want to brush it aside.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
So it's just like they can't ever find peace, whether
she's alive or not, they just are not given peace.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, it's sad. We probably will never know what happened
to her, and for the family, that's the most painful
thing I think.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Right absolutely, I mean this has literally everything. This is
the kind of thing more and more, especially in the
Internet age, we're seeing more and more of these types
of mysteries where one I think it's because people can
share the stories and comments on them. So for this
too in the eighties to take on the web and

(01:02:25):
depth that it had of involving everything from a Vatican
cover up to the mob, to the police to the
I mean everything like a terrorist organization. I mean, who
wasn't suspected of taking this girl for God's sad?

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
And yeah, that's probably a shorter list. I mean this
happened at a time pre Internet to where globally information
was not as readily available, there wasn't as much surveillance then. Obviously,
For one, the church's silence does make them look bad, yes,

(01:02:59):
now does that being they're guilty? Of course, who doesn't
guarantee that they're guilty, But it certainly makes them very suspicious,
and it makes it seem awfully likely that they really
did have something to do with it. We know from
a history that the Catholic Church has a lot of
skeletons in their closet. There's no reason to dismiss them

(01:03:20):
as a possibility. I wouldn't put it past them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
The part that I find most intriguing is the idea
of the Vatican hiring Asha to assassinate the pope, because
that would make sense why the pope is calling for
the release of this girl. But the rest of the
Vatican is quiet. Like the Pope himself, John Paul was

(01:03:45):
making all these proclamations in these pleas for her release,
but like it seemed like the Church as a whole
behind him remained very quiet. That to me, I find
like kind of an interesting feat. You know, it's very
much like like we said, it's kind of like like
a Kennedy assassination, where it's like was it an inside job?
You know, that sort of thing, And I find that

(01:04:07):
very fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
That to me, just really totally.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
There's a weird disconnect there. Your top level guy of
an organization is saying things, but the rest of them won't.
The most likely scenario to me, most likely reason, I
would think is because he's the hardest to get to
to talk to, and so he's basically saying, I will

(01:04:30):
handle it. I will say these things. Nobody else talk
about it right exactly, which just seems like the best
way to cover something.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Up exactly right. But I'll tell you, Gage, I've got
my own list of suspects.

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arch Nemesis Aaron Bird, the sadistic Sergio Castillo, the rapt
Scallion Ryan Crumb, the Beast, Benjamin Hang, the devilish Christduceete,

(01:05:32):
the Psycho, Sam the Electric Himily Jong, the goulish Girt Hankum,
the renegade, Corey Ramos, the Crazed Carlos, the Antagonist, Andrew Park,
the monstrous Mikaela Sure, the witchy Wonder, J. P. Weimer,
the Freiki, Ben Forsyth, the barbaric Andrew Berry, the mysterious Marcella,
the hillatious Kale Hoffman, and pug Borb the Poulter guys. Yes, yes, yes,

(01:05:52):
I'll tell you what. Every name on that list is
in no way affiliated with this disappearance, and I'll and
by that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
If you want to be just like those saints we
just listed, go over to patreon dot com slash creep
Street Podcast and take the sacrament for yourself. There's three
different tiers, even a free teer. Go enjoy that. Get
something tasty over there. I think you'll really really like it.
Thank you once again to all of our listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
We love you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Thank you for tuning in every week.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
We love it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
We're getting bigger and better from here on out, Citizens
of the Milky Way. My name is Dylan.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
Hackworth and i'ngage hurley, good night, and goodbye

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
The bast the bist of the bist of pas

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