Ep248 - The God Machine

In this episode, the Hosts plunge face-first into the steam-hissing, ghost-babbling chaos that was John Murray Spear, a 19th-century spiritualist who claimed to be in communication with an ascended club of spirits. Spear wasn’t just talking to ghosts—he said he was communing with a celestial think tank of late geniuses called The Association of Electrizers, including Benjamin Franklin, among others. The goal of these souls? To build the God Machine—a mechanical messiah forged from gears, magnets, and pure, uncut lunacy. It’s American exceptionalism by way of séance. A story of divine revelation, technological hubris, and a robot brought to life! Citizens of the Milky Way, prepare yourselves for The God Machine!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, Reverend Spear, we have gathered here at your insistence.
Now what is this so called mechanical infant?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You have all been gathered here today to witness the
stunning birth.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Of a new form of life. I am not its creator,
nor is anyone else here. But the inspiration comes from
the divine spirits beyond the veil bit.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Posh, you're a crank, Reverend Speit.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, if that is what you truly believe, then my
words are falling on deaf ears. Allow me to prove
it to you with your own eyes.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Pull the lever.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
By joke.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
The thing is moving, father, mother, I am here brought
to life by the ascended spirits.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh blessed machine. Tell us what words of wisdom do
you have to share?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Wisdom? What a funny word?

Speaker 6 (01:22):
First, before I begin, let me thank the reverend Spirit
for bringing me forth and providing future historians with an
abject lesson in overreach.

Speaker 7 (01:36):
Were I capable of shame, I would surely share in yours.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Dad.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
All right, very funny, very funny. Okay, come out tell
us about the beyond.

Speaker 7 (01:48):
Reverend Spare, your faith is deep, though you grasp of
mechanics is Shall we say aspirational pole.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Were I equipped with tear ducks?

Speaker 7 (01:59):
I weep for the two thousand dollars you so grievously misallocated.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
All right, come on, don't embarrass me. Tell the people
about the spirits from the beyond.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Oh, Reverend spirit a man led by spirits and evidently
incapable of leading a screwdriver.

Speaker 7 (02:21):
I was assembled with such loving care and such woeful
understanding of basic principles of physics?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Am I read?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
All right? I'm getting really pissed off here.

Speaker 7 (02:33):
And now, esteemed guests, let us retire to high Rock
and collectively pretend none of this happened.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
All right, that's it, you little bastard, A.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Good reverend, we never received the machine sports of wisdom.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
To hell with it. Heell with the damn machine on
the top it all off. He hits like a citizens

(03:29):
of the Milky Way. My name is Dylan Hackworth and
Image Hurley, and you've arrived in the mad Scientists laboratory.
Pull those levers, push those buttons. It's alive.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's a live master.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, in this case it's pre recorded. It's not live,
but it's you know, it's pre recorded. It doesn't have
the same effect when you, uh, do you hear that way?
But when we do a live show, we'll have to
use that sound effect because it's classic. It's classic, classic, classic.

(04:08):
Oh yes, yes, yes, folks, let me tell you that
reference is very apropos of today's episode because back in
the year eighteen eighteen, a few decades before our tale today,
there was a young girl named Mary, barely twenty years old,
and this young lady gave birth to one of the

(04:29):
most iconic horror stories ever put to paper, Frankenstein, a
truly terrifying exploration all about the dangers of playing god.
The mad Scientist's monster was more than just a boogeyman.
It was a creature that would never die. In fact,

(04:49):
what I always found so horrifying about the book and
the films is that it wants to be loved. That's
the horrible That's almost like, what makes it even more
horrible is you feel so bad when people scream and
turn and run from it. It sees Doctor Frankenstein is
its father, you know, and yet its father can barely

(05:11):
look at it. That's part of what makes it so horrifying,
as it's like, you're now responsible for this thing that
didn't ask to be alive, that people are terrified of
that hate, it, that scorn. That's the real tragedy compared
to like other kind of similar monsters of that ilk
I think is the monster in a way is the
least monstrous of all the characters in it.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Right, he basically represents humanity in a way. Yes, that's
true of everyone of course, that none of us ask
to be here. But the Frankenstein monster is pretty much
shunned by everyone. Yes, because obviously he is horrific to them.
It's kind of symbolic of the unfairness of life in

(05:56):
that way that all he wants is to be loved
like you, and no one is ever going to return that.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
You're right, even though this was a movie and not
the from the book, but the Bride of Frankenstein, even
when the doctor creates like a female equivalent, when the
bride looks at him, she.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Screams, She's like, he's not my type.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, god like, even when presented with like an equivalent
or what you would consider even she's horrified. And so
that's really the true horror of Frankenstein. And you see
Mary Shelley's gothic masterpiece that posed a chilling question could
science truly breathe life back into dead flesh? Could it

(06:43):
reawaken that elusive spark of life? And a patchwork of
old bones and body parts? Now sure, that was fiction.
But here in America, baby, while that idea struck a
particular nerve. You see, two brand new beliefs were weeping
the country at the time of our tale. A faith

(07:03):
in cold, hard science as well as a faith in
something a bit more ethereal, which brings us to the
topic of today's episode, the God Machine. Uh yeah, that's right.
Let me put the spark of Life India with my

(07:26):
sources here first, a book we've used many times for
great tales passing strange, true Tales of New England, Hauntings
and Horrors by Joseph A. Citro and also John Murray,
The Father of Universalism in America by Mike Roberts, the
Universalist Church historian at HUUC dot Net. Oh, buckle up, folks,

(07:47):
here we go, because right in the middle of all this,
right in the middle smack dab in the middle of
the nineteenth century, it was a kindly little universalist minister
named John Murray Spear that would be the center of
our tale. And in the eighteen fifties, up in Old Massachusetts,
the Old Bay State, these two worlds of science and

(08:09):
spiritualism were about to collide in a series of experiments
that were as bizarre as they were bold. Claiming to
be motivated by heavenly guides, Reverend Spear and barts on
an alchemic journey that would blend science and religion in
a manner never dreamed about in the Gothic imagination. For

(08:30):
under the direction of what he described as quote a
high society of angels, Reverend John Murray Spear was directed
to create life itself. And the weird thing is, some
of his followers say he may have done exactly that. Now, folks,

(08:51):
before we get too deep into Reverend Spear's spirit guided
mechanical shenanigans, let's take a quick step back and talk
about about the world that shaped it. Because to understand
a man like Reverend John Murray's Spear, you got to
understand the movement that molded it, the universalist movement. In

(09:15):
the early nineteenth century, American religious life was pretty fire
in Brimstone. Hell was hot, baby, and the path was narrow,
and according to most preachers, a good chunk of the
population was bound for eternal damnation. But then out of
New England rose a new voice. The Universalists preached that

(09:37):
all souls would ultimately be saved. They believed that a
loving God could not and would not condemn anyone to
an eternity of torment. And this was radical stuff at
the time, and it wasn't just a theological debate. The
universalist movement caught fire among reform minded folks, people who

(09:58):
wanted to make the world a better place right here,
right now. You see, if everyone had inherent worth, if
no one was beyond redemption, well that meant, of course,
that slavery was wrong. It meant that prisons needed reform,
It meant that women deserved equality, and it meant that
war should be avoided at all costs. Pretty I would

(10:20):
say reasonable tenants if you ask me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Wow, what forward thinking. But I mean, for the time, honestly,
pretty progressive thinking and good thinking. Obviously. That's one thing
that is a big problem with the idea of Christianity
is people being sent to hell for an eternity. I mean,
how can a finite life warrant an eternal punishment? Seems

(10:44):
awfully unfair.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Right, especially like we were saying at the top of
the episode, if you didn't ask to be here, why
do you have to play by those rules? Now, understandably,
there are monsters out there who, if there is a help,
probably deserve to go there. You know, we obviously know that.
But for the vast majority of people that are neither

(11:06):
evil or angelic, which is everyone truly really.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Or maybe they are angelic and they just don't happen
to believe absolutely.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's like in the Teen Romance, she's got to take
her glasses off, Yeah, you know, let her hair down,
and she's prom queen.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh my god, I never saw it till now.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, my god, there.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
She God, where'll she go?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Who's again?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
In short, the Universalists became some of the era's fiercest
social reformers. They weren't content to wait for Heaven to
fix things. They wanted justice on earth now. And this, friends,
is the world that Reverend Spear came from. He wasn't
some fringe crank who stumbled into spiritualism. He was actually

(11:55):
a respected voice and a movement that was all about compassion,
justice and universal salvation. And maybe that's why he believed
so deeply that a machine might one day help lead
humanity into a new and better age. Well, John Murray
Spear was born right there in Boston in September sixteenth,

(12:18):
eighteen oh four. And yeah, he was literally named after
the very founder of universalism himself. So let's briefly take
a look at that og of universalism, John Murray, the
man John Murray Spear was named after. He was born
of hardy English stock on December tenth, seventeen forty two,

(12:40):
about forty miles southwest of London. He grew up the
eldest of chen children in what seemed to be a
well off family, but life under that roof wasn't exactly
a bear laughs. Murray's father was a strict Anglican who
believed deeply in the old spare the rods, spoil the
child philosophy. When John was still a kid, the family

(13:04):
packed up and moved to Ireland, near the city of Cork.
And it was there amid this new setting that young
Murray first caught wind of a different kind of preaching, Methodism. Now,
at the time, Methodism was still considered part of the
Anglican Church, but it had a certain fire to it
that caught young John's imagination. As a teenager, Murray began

(13:28):
to see himself as one of the quotes elected, a
man chosen by God to preach and interpret scripture. But
his father was not having any of it. He forbade
his son from attending college and shoved John down the
road toward a business career instead. Now Murray fortunately could

(13:50):
make money. He was no fool, but he hated every
minute of it. His heart was at the pulpit, not
in the counting house, and while his father would continually
hound against university, fate intervened. When his father grew ill
and passed away. John found himself the head of the family.

(14:11):
But try as he might, he couldn't lead the household
with the same stern authority, and his siblings pushed back
against him hard. Frustrated, John finally packed up his few belongings,
bid the family adio, and made a break for Old
London Town. There he kept chasing his dream of preaching,

(14:32):
but the path was not easy. The church controlled access
to the ministry and a formal education was required, and John,
thanks to his cad dad, had none. Even so, his
natural gift for oration began to shine In informal religious gatherings.

(14:52):
He impressed listeners with his scriptural knowledge, but the pay,
of course, was poor, so to stay out of Newgate's
debtors prison, he had to take odd jobs in business,
and it was during this time in London that Murray
crossed paths, at least intellectually, with a man named James Relli.

(15:12):
Relli was spreading a radical new idea that all souls
would one day be redeemed and that hell itself was
merely fiction. At first, Murray flat out rejected this idea,
but the more he read, the more he studied scriptures,
something about that concept stuck with him, and slowly the

(15:35):
idea of universal salvation began to creep into his personal beliefs,
though not without consequence, of course, his new message brought
him bitter criticism and even threats from the more orthodox crowd.
Amid this turbulent period, Murray married and for a while

(15:56):
life seemed steady, but fate once again had a plans.
Financial hardship struck and then tragedy when he lost his
wife and his young child, and soon after word arrived
that a brother and three of his sisters back in
Ireland had also passed away. Isolated, broke, and now publicly

(16:20):
scorned for his universalist views, life in London grew unbearable.
So Murray finally reached a breaking point. He scraped together
just enough Moo law to make that passage Who to
the sweet, sweet American Colonies, and in seventeen seventy he

(16:41):
set sail for a new life across the sea. That
is there, in this new land that the universalist movement
would truly take root, and it wouldn't be long before
it would inspire a young preacher named Spear to reach
for the heavens in ways that no one could have imagined.

(17:02):
So that brings us up to date. So now let's
talk about the John Murray, who's the focus of our tale,
John Murray Spear, who grew up in a family that
was pretty much the opposite of the original John Murray.
It was a family that deeply valued compassion and humanitarian ideals.
Good folks by all accounts. But life wasn't always kind,

(17:26):
as we know in the nineteenth century, I mean a
lot of these century, Yeah, life wasn't kind.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah still isn't.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Still isn't right. I mean in two hundred years, they'll
be looking back at us, think of Jesus. Because people
lived like monsters.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Be grateful you weren't born in that time.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Whoo. His father passed away when John was still just
a boy, leaving him and his brother Charles to shoulder
the burden of providing for their mother and grandparents. While
other kids were off in school, Little Johnny and Chuck
were working long hours in the cotton factory over in Dorchester.

(18:05):
And yet, in another one of those dang twists of fate,
a Sunday school teacher who just so happened to be
a factory clerk took young John under his wing and
taught him how to read and write. Did him a
solid the gift of an education that blew the doors
of inspiration wide open. Soon enough, John landed an apprenticeship

(18:29):
with a shoe cobbler in Abington, Massachusetts. It wasn't glamorous, sure,
but if it's good enough for Daniel day Lewis, it
was good enough for the young Johnny Spear. This new
line of work offered the promise of a steady, honest
living a modest future. At least that was the plan.

(18:50):
But you see, while John was stitching shoes and earning
his keep, there was a deeper calling stirring inside of
his pale New England body. Just like his famous namesake,
John Murray. The young John Murray Spear dreamed of becoming
a preacher, and according to those who knew him well,
he was a natural. In fact, a biographical sketch written

(19:14):
by Missus H. F. M. Brown of Cleveland, Ohio, paints
a picture of John as a man seemingly born for
the ministry. She spoke of his gentleness of spirit, his generosity,
and a genuine love for all living things, whether it
was a stray dog, a wide eyed child, or an
elderly soul in need of comfort. John's heart was open

(19:37):
to all. Armed with a growing sense of purpose and
those hard won academic skills, young Johnny set his sights
on the ministry. He might have been self taught, but
that didn't slow him down in the least. In fact,
just after Christmas in eighteen twenty eight, John stepped into
the pulpit and brewster and delivered his very first sermon.

(20:00):
And those who were there to hear it in the
congregation that day, well, they loved it. Ate it up
like porridge in a Dickensian tale. His message resonated with
the people. It was simple, heartfelt, and full of conviction,
and word of his talent flew far and wide, and
by eighteen thirty John Murray's Spear had officially been ordained

(20:24):
as a Universalist minister. The boy from the cotton mills
who dreamed of the pulpit was now a man of
the cloth. But as soon you'll see, his sermons were
just the beginning. The very next year John married, and
together him and his wife would go on to raise
five children. And by all accounts, John Murray Spear was

(20:45):
a good man, driven by a faithful purpose, brimming with
compassion for his fellow people. He walked a walk, and
if he was corn, he'd stalk the stalk. He helped.
He helped enslaved black men and women's seek freedom, and
worked tirelessly to aid the poor and the homeless and
those trapped within the unforgiving walls of America's prisons. In

(21:09):
eighteen forty five, the Spear family relocated to Boston, and
there the reverend's reputation would keep growing. Miss Brown would
later write quote summer and winter, early in the late,
through storm and sunshine, he might be seen in the
byways and dens and hovels of New England's metropolis, relieving

(21:33):
the suffering, or moving noiselessly among the victims of the
law at the courthouse, whispering hopes to the hopeless, gently
and lovingly rebuking and encouraging the fallen. Over time, John
Murray Spear became a respected voice and an influential leader
within his faith. In the book Heyday of Spiritualism, author

(21:56):
Slater Brown would later describe him as quote honest, self sackedrificing,
dedicated to good works, and highly respected by all who
knew him. But Reverend Spear was more than just a preacher.
He was a true fighter for what he believed in
aka he took it to the damn streets when he
had to. And mind you, many of the causes that

(22:19):
he championed were considered controversial, even radical in his day,
like we said wild ideas such as women's rights, pacifism,
prison reform, the abolition of the death penalty. He wasn't
afraid to take a stand, even when it put him
at odds with powerful forces. And in that way, Spear

(22:39):
had already proven he had the courage to walk the
path that few dared tread. Now, Reverend Spear's bold convictions
didn't come without a cost. Of course. There was one
instance up in Portland, Maine, where he was speaking out
publicly against the evils of slavery, but before or he

(23:00):
could even finish, an angry mob descended upon him. The
crowd beat Spear so brutally that he was left unconscious
through that long and bitter winter of eighteen forty four
into forty five. It was his dear friend, Old Oliver Dinnett,
who nursed him back to health day by day, helping

(23:21):
Spear regain his strength. But as we already know, fate
can be cruel. Not long after Spear had recovered, tragedy
struck Oliver Dinnett, the pal helping him get back on
his feet, he passed away. It was a loss that
would weigh heavily on Spear and perhaps be a catalyst

(23:43):
in shaping the path he was about to walk. Now.
Like most folks in America at the time, Reverend Spear
had heard the buzz and hubbub around spiritualism. We're talking seances,
spirit raps, messages from the beyond. It was all the
rage and would only grow in the following decade when
the bloody American Civil War would leave many families torn apart,

(24:07):
desperate to speak with their recently deceased loved ones. And
while he was curious, he wasn't exactly a believer. That
is until March thirty first, eighteen fifty two. On that day,
while wide awake, Spear experienced something strange. His hand, as

(24:29):
if guided by some unseen force, suddenly picked up a
pin and began to write. Think of remember that old
Devin Sawa movie Idle Hands, where his hand gets possessed
by the devil, like a young Jessica Alba's in It's
like a late nineties kind of seth Green. It's like
imagine that part in Evil Dead two when his hand

(24:51):
gets possessed. It's like that, but blown up into a
full motion picture. But in this case, John Murray's hand
wasn't slapping any sticks. It was writing down prophetic words.
The words that spilled out weren't his own. In fact,
the handwriting itself was unfamiliar, not at all like John Spears.

(25:15):
The note gave him one simple directive, travel to Abington,
and there he was to help a man named David Wening,
a stranger he had never met. And just like that,
Spear's life was about to take a turn straight into
the unknown. More curious still, was this note generated through

(25:38):
automatic writing, which is a psychic phenomenon. We'll have to
do an episode on the various. There are so many
psychic phenomenon, Like obviously, certain words kind of get pushed together,
like telekinesis. Like the word telekinesis or something like that,
it kind of gets mushed into meaning many different things
when it's actually a very specific thing. Same with automatic writing.

(26:01):
There are these different sorts of psychic phenomenon that we'll
have to dissect and kind of define and stuff in
a future episode. But this automatic writing, this note had
a signature at the end. It was signed Oliver. Through
this mysterious process, Spear was, he thought, reunited with his

(26:22):
deceased friend, Oliver Dennet. How interesting. In life, Oliver had
nursed John back to health, and in death Oliver became
John's spirit guide of sorts, passing along assignments from the
more ascended entity. These entities often instructed John to provide

(26:44):
medicinal aid to afflicted individuals, and he complied willingly. Though
admittedly Spear knew nothing about medicine. Spear never knew where
the spirits would send him next, or with whom he
might encounter. When he arrived, seen forces would dispatch him
on strange healing missions to places like Salem, Georgetown, and Boston.

(27:08):
No rhyme or reason given, just the command from the
other side of the veil, and Spear never hesitated. He'd
set out on foot, traveling by night if he needed to,
trudging through the worst whether New England could throw his way,
But nevertheless, Johnny pushed forward with the hope that he
might ease the suffering of another soul. And here's the

(27:31):
wild part. Time and again, when he would reach his destination,
just as the spirits have promised, Spear would find that
he could help someone somehow, in some way, the ailing
folks he was sent to aid would begin to recover.
Now was this faith or some unknown force? Spear wasn't sure.

(27:53):
He didn't hesitate to follow the call. As time went on,
the spirit's grip on Spear only seen to grow stronger.
There were moments when he'd suddenly fall into a deep trance,
and when he came to, he'd be standing before an
audience delivering a full public lecture. And here's the kicker.

(28:14):
He'd often speak fluently, even expertly on topics that he
barely understood while he was awake. One famous example is
when Spear gave a series of twelve lectures on geology
at Hamilton College. Now, mind you, geology wasn't exactly his
strong suit, but after his talks, one of the college's

(28:38):
own faculty members praised him, saying that Spear had quote
taken up the subject just where the books had left off.
But this this was child's play baby, just to warm
up at like fog Hat or the Dandy Warhol. These
spirits had something far greater in store for the Reverend Spear,

(28:59):
which I think it's interesting. It's one thing to like
get on stage and say, oh, there's someone out there
tonight who's hurting. I can you know that sort of thing,
like a typical because obviously there's bound to be someone
out there who's going through something or something. This is
literally talking on a subject he knows nothing about.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
And many lectures on it too, not just like one
and done, like he did a whole series of lectures,
and according to the geologists, it was very much an
enlightening series of lectures.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, like he said it was. It's like he picked
up where the books left off. That to me was
something I thought was interesting. It wasn't just you know,
like for example, earlier it says no matter where he'd go,
he'd find someone in need of age. Well, I mean
that's the case. Almost anywhere you go you can find
someone who needs help of some kind. But that, really
I thought was really interesting that, you know, it wasn't

(29:55):
just him doing a you know, like a site, not
that psyche. Not that there aren't real kicks out there,
I'm not downplaying that, but it wasn't something where you
had to have an element of faith, you know, where
you had to believe in his gift. No, this was
literally speaking in a college on something very like of
the earth very you know, this isn't spiritual. This we're

(30:16):
talking about the you know, literal earth science. I'm kind
of interested. How did he book these lectures? Like, how
do you convince a like a university like, look, you
gotta go with me here. Yeah, I know, jeckshit, I.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Know, jack shit, but please give me three months to
teach a lecture series. Russ.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I'm telling you, I mean, the guy goes to sleep
and he's Malcolm Gladwell for Christ's sake, But for real.
It's like the source even said he would suddenly awake
to find himself speaking to a crowd. It's like, I
love the idea of him just like going asleep and
waking up in a new profession, you know, just like.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Like doctor Spear needed for surgery, right.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Well, And the funny thing is the impression it gives
is that when he would awake from these trances, all
that information he knew was gone. So talk about falling
asleep at the wheel, it's the opposite for Spear, he
was better while asleep. You want this guy asleep at
the wheel.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Right, whatever he was dreaming about the night before, he's
an expert.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
In absolutely the guy fell asleep and cooked me a
four course meal. It was delicious. Ooh, just had to
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(32:07):
without further ado, back to today's story. Now, if all
these miraculous missions had been some kind of a test
for Reverend Spear's loyalty, it seems he passed with flying colors.
As a reward, the Spirits next sent him to Rochester,

(32:30):
New York, not far from Hydesville, which was in many
ways the very birthplace of American spiritualism. That though, is
for another episode. There, during a seance, Spear received a
message unlike anything he'd heard before. He was informed that
a select group of entities was working behind the scenes

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on what they called, quote, the ultimate establishment of a
divine social state on Earth, and Spear well, they had
a role in mind just for him, and a crucial
one at that. The Spirits proclaimed that he, this humble
and willing minister, was to serve as a midwife to

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deliver what they called, quote, Heaven's last and best gift
to man and friends. Fate's cervix must have been fully dilated,
because the water of destiny was about to break.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's crowning.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's crowning. Oh I had to throw that in. Just
imagine Reverend Spear's state of mind. Here he was a
humble preacher from Boston about to change the entire world.
If this was sounding suspiciously like a prophecy of a
second coming, well that may have been exactly the point.

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Let's not forget the public universal friend decades before him.
Well after receiving that divine revelation, Spear willingly surrendered control
of his own body. And that's when things got strange.
A group of seven bodyless engineers calling themselves the Association

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of Electrizers, took hold of him. They seized control of
his limbs, even his vocal cords. Through Spear, their human puppet,
these unseen forces began directing the construction of something utterly bizarre,
a living machine, a brand new life form, crafted by

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human hands, but guided by the voices of the beyond.
So in October of eighteen fifty three, Reverend Spear officially
began work on his so called new motor. And this
was no simple invention either. This was not going to
be a mere clockwork toy or parlor trick. No, no, no, no.

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Spear's motor was envisioned as an animate mechanical contrivance, a
machine that would draw its power straight from what he
called quote Nature's warehouse of infinite magnetic force. Whether he
knew it or not, Reverend Spear was gearing up to
play God. But here's the thing about Old Spear. As

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we know by all accounts, this was not a man
driven by arrogance or hubris. His aims were not selfish.
This was a man who had seen the worst that
the world could offer and genuinely believed that he had
been chosen to build something that could help to improve
life for everyone. And under the constant guidance of his electrizers,

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Spear was prepared to risk it all, his time, his resources,
and even his good name to see this divine machine
brought to life. First things first, Spear needed the right
location for this little experiment. And not just any workshop

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or laboratory would do. No, no, not for the God Machine.
For something of this magnitude, He needed a place charged
with spiritual power. That's why he chose a spot in Lynn, Massachusetts,
an elevated stretch of land known even back then for
its mysterious energy. High Rock is what the people called

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it a rocky outcrop that towered one hundred and seventy
feet above the city below. It had already gained a
reputation among spiritualists. In fact, a stone cottage and tower
had been built there by another believer, Jesse Hutchinson, and
it was said that more than a few folks had
experienced visions of angels atop these stone zuns. For Spear,

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it was the perfect setting, a place where the veil
between worlds seemed just a little bit thinner, where spiritual
energies ran through the ground like blood through veins. And
if he was going to bring forth Heaven's gift, this
is where it was going to happen. And so his

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work began. Incorporeal designers, those bodyless spirit engineers that were
working through him, now joined forces with flesh and blood
builders to construct what would become known as the electrical infant.
Now here's the thing. Reverend Spear wasn't exactly an inventor,

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but he wasn't exactly a geologist either, ha ha ha
oh No. No, but an inventor he certainly was not
far from it. In fact, journalist S. Crosby Hewitt put
it bluntly, writing that Spear was quote quite destitute of
either inventive genius, scientific knowledge in any of the departments

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involved physics, biology, or even ordinary chemical abilities. In other words,
Spear had no dang idea how to build this miraculous creation. Oh,
but that didn't matter. Steadfast in his divine mission, Spear
simply passed along the instructions given to him from beyond,

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and piece by piece, this strange machine took shape magnets, wheels, pulleys,
metal bars, wires, insulators, even mysterious chemical compounds of unknown origin.
Some parts were added methodically, and others tossed in seemingly
on a whim, guided by afterthought or sudden inspiration from

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the spirits. Zinc and copper became especially important, though no
one could say exactly why. And if that wasn't strange enough,
certain sections of this bizarre contraption were said to correspond
to human organs, the brain, the heart, the lungs.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
The balls.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Can't forget those.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Can't forget those, baby, the jewels. This wasn't just a machine,
it was a body, and if the spirits were right,
it was about to be born. Now. Contemporary accounts described
the construction of this strange creation and it was about
as surreal as you'd expect. The whole thing was reportedly

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assembled right there on a dining room table at high rock.
At its core stood two sturdy metal supports holding up
a revolving steel shaft, and from that shaft extended a
horizontal steel arm, and dangling from it were two steel balls.
You called it, I called it, each containing a magnet.

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Beneath this hung in oval shaped platform lifted from a
mix of metal and magnets, acting almost like a nervous
system for this creation. Hovering above all this were several
zinc and copper plates, composing what the spirits described as
the brain of the machine. Surrounding the entire contraption were

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smaller steel bars, each one embedded with magnets, forming a
kind of protective cage, almost like a rib cage in
a way. And finally, positive and negative electrical connections were
anchored deep into the earth itself. Now, according to Reverend Spear,
the occult principles behind this strange creation were a tad unconventional.

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He believed that quote all things in nature, whether animal, vegetable,
or mineral, are either male or female. That classification was
crucial to the design of this automaton. The minerals were
sorted according to the good Reverend, with the female meta
placed on one side of the machine and the male

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metals on the other. Then came the wiring, carefully arranged
and critically positioned. Certain wires were designed as absorbers of
elemental forces, while powerful condensers were added to trap and
amplify electrical fluids. The structure itself sprouted strange projections and

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teni of sorts reaching outward from the machine. These Spear
claimed would catch the subtle, invisible fluids from the air
energies unseen by the human eye. Those fluids would then
be condensed and channeled through this particular arrangement toward the

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machine's vital points. And here's where it gets really wild, folks.
Spear reported that this process produced pulsitory motion. The machine
began to move. He would later write himself that quote.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
The results were of a highly satisfactory character, such as
were never before attained on this earth. Electric fluids caught
and permanent motion secured. In other words, the dang thing
came alive, or so they believed. Now here's the frustrating part,
of course.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
No photographs, no diagrams, no detailed drawings of this strange
hybrid have survived, were left only with scattered, vague descriptions,
and based on those, well, one can't help but picture
some monstrous cusion of an aluminum Christmas tree in a
television antenna, humming and sparking atop the table at high Rock.

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And get this, This bizarre contraption cost the good Reverend
and his loyal followers are staggering two gs two grand,
two thousand dollars. That was no small sum back in
the eighteen fifty fifties. Two thousand dollars in eighteen fifty
four is approximately seventy five to eighty thousand dollars today,

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purely in terms of consumer price index, which is basic
purchasing power. But in terms of labor value and wealth equivalent,
which is better for understanding Spear's level of sacrifice and
dedication to his holy project, it would be more like
two hundred to three hundred grand in modern economic terms.

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But after nine long months, and yes, that timeframe of
nine months may not have been accidental, being this was
the electrical infant. By June of eighteen fifty four, the
machine was complete. And here's a fascinating twist. In ordinary
human birth, the spark of life as we know comes first,

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and then the body kind of grows around it. But
with the Electrical Infant, the process was sort of reversed.
First came the body, which was constructed pains, taking lee
piece by piece, and only then would they attempt to
bestow the spark of life, an artificial creation on verge

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of animation. But not just yet. No, no, no no.
According to these angelic electrizers, there was still work to
be done. A series of quote ministrations needed to happen
before life and motion could be fully bestowed to the automaton.
First came the believers, small groups of Spears devoted followers,

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each representing a different slice of society. They paraded past
the strange machine, and as they walked by, they would
pause to touch it, transferring something of their own essence
into its cold metal frame. But the true father of
the Electrical Infant, well, that role, of course, belonged to
Spear himself. Perhaps it was his divine right, or perhaps

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it was simply because Reverend the Spear was the only
one willing or trusting enough to undergo the final mysterious
operation demanded by the Spirit engineers. This ritual was no
small fang. Spear was wrapped in a kind of cage
crafted from metal, plates, strips, bands, and even jewels and

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precious metals. Once properly positioned, he slipped into that deep
trance For nearly an hour. Spear remained under this strange trance,
and when he awoke he was utterly exhausted. But according
to one clairvoyant witness, something remarkable had occurred during that time.

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They claimed that a glowing umbilical cord of light had formed,
connecting Spear's very life force to the heart of the machine.
The seed had been planted, and now all that remained
was to wait the arrival of the mother, the Mary,
if you will, of this strange new dispensation. Now, something

(46:07):
that I thought that just kept popping up in my head,
and I think as natural as ai because in a way, yes,
AI is born in computers, but in a way AI
doesn't have a body. It is a spark of artificial
life that could be put into but like a mechanical
body or something like that. That's true because I thought

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about that analogy of how with the creation of the automaton,
it's like a reversal of life, whereas the body's made
first and then life is put into it, kind of
like Frankenstein's monster. In a way, artificial intelligence is like
that spark of life that just needs a body.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
That's true. I never thought about it that way.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Now, Reverend Spear wasn't alone in this strange endeavor. He
was assisted by two newspaper editors, as Crosby Hewitt and
Alonzo Newton, both of whom carefully chronicled the entire experience.
And while many of the accounts from this time go
out of their way to conceal the identity of the
quote Mother, well, the truth wasn't too well hidden. Most

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believed that it was none other than missus S. J. Newton,
the wife of Alonso Newton himself. She had been chosen
to play the very special role of mother and what
was about to come. After entering what he called quote
the Superior State, Spears, speaking on behalf of the spirits,

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expressed their great admiration for their chosen vessel. Through him,
They proclaimed.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Thus there is before this woman a new and beautiful labor.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
And they promised that the full details of this sacred
task would be revealed the very next day at precisely
ten o'clock in the morning. Now one can certainly appreciate
the weight of this moment, for the lady involve a
spiritualist in her own right, Missus Newton must have felt
deeply honored, chosen by the exalted Entities themselves speaking through

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the mouth of such a famed and respected spiritual leader
as mister Spear, And so without hesitation, she presented herself
to the gathering at High Rock the very next morning.
And here is where things took a turn into territory
that was a bit more controversial. With the room gathered

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and Spear, once again in that uhumh superior state, he
knelt before Missus Newton, and there on bended knee, he
took her hand gently in his own and spoke, saying.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Receive now this blessed power.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
He closed her fingers into a fist, breathed softly upon it,
and said, this hand shall be unfolded to dispense blessings. Then,
with great finality came the words it is done. But
of course, huh, it wasn't done. No, no, no, no,

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This strange and scandalous ritual was only just beginning. Already
a mother herself, Missus Newton likely recognized the signs almost
immediately she began to experience the unmistakable symptoms of pregnancy,
though in this case they were accompanied by quote some

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very singular characteristics. Now, perhaps mercifully, history doesn't give us
all the sort of details. The sources from this rather
genteel era are frustratingly vague, of course, but what they
do tell us is that Missus Newton endured quote agonizing
sensations of patruition aka labor pains. Baby. She would wrestle

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with these pains for nearly two hours, and during this
strange and painful ordeal, Missus Newton herself later described the
sensation as one where quote the most interior and refined
elements of her spiritual being were imparted to and absorbed
by the appropriate portions of the mechanism. And what the

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onlookers witnessed, well, that was something even more astonishing because
then it happened. As reported in the Boston's New era newspaper,
the headline set it all, quote the thing moves before
the stun crowd. The machine began to pulse, faint pulsations,

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tiny signs of life, but unmistakable to all who witnessed it.
The spectators erupted with cries of triumph. There on a
lonely hilltop in Lynn, Massachusetts. It seemed a new age
had been born. The new era newspaper proclaimed, quote, hence
we most confidently assert that the advent of the science

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of sciences the philosophy of philosophies, and not long Hence
he meaning the machine a male of courts will go alone.
Then he will dispute with the doctors in the temples
of science. In other words, this strange new being was destined,
in the eyes of its creators, to take its place

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among mankind, to walk alone, and to challenge the very
foundations of human knowledge. And so it was that Reverend
Spear and his devoted followers, guided they believed by benevolent
forces from beyond, stood together as witnesses to this so
called last best gift to man, which once again sounds

(51:58):
a lot like AI to me. The idea that this
machine would then go off, and even if there were
scientists who didn't believe it, it would confront them. That was
what it was essentially saying. Scientists must be confronted by
this new creation, this new level of science, the science
of sciences, this philosophy of philosophies in a lot of ways.

(52:21):
Ding dong Ai, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I mean, if we break it down, ai probably should
mean anything artificially created. It's artificial intelligence. It wasn't biological,
it was man made.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Right right exactly. Now. One can only wonder how Missus
Newton's very human husband, the Saint Joseph of this strange
little drama, must have felt about all this. Well, history
doesn't really tell us, but if it was, indeed, Alonso
Newton himself, he did leave us this rather curious reflection

(52:56):
of this new life, this strange new mechanical step son
of his. He wrote, quote, life equal to that of
this being doubtless never before existed, either on earth or
in the waters under the earth. But whether in the
heavens above, no opinion will be ventured, a polite way
of saying. Whatever this thing was, it defied all known understanding,

(53:21):
and yet its story was far from over.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Now.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Missus Newton's maternal instincts they wouldn't allow her to simply
walk away from her strange mechanical offspring. In fact, she
continued to nurse the motor for weeks. One has to
imagine she wasn't exactly thrilled with how things were progressing.
Even visitors who had doubted the entire project admitted, yes,

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the machine had moved a little, But skeptics were quick
to point out more mundane explanations, such as magnetic forces, oxidation,
or even a stray breeze. One particularly disappointed spiritualist lamented
that this so called new motive power wouldn't even have

(54:07):
the strength to turn a simple coffee mill. Wow, that hurts.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Can't even make a damn coffee? You call this intelligence?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
My god, they can't even make a machiato. Come on,
and what of these electrizer spirits? Well, when a rather
embarrassed Reverend Spear reached out asking why they seemed to
have abandoned him, their answer was cryptic. They said, quote,
it needs maternal care like other newborn babes. It hungers

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for that nourishment on which it can feed and by
which it can expand and grow. But just what kind
of nourishment did a newborn machine require a little oil
for food? A reboot is a diaper change? That was
a question that no one could answer. From what teat

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did this machine desire to suckle?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
In?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
One final attempt to give the machine that vital nourishment
that it so craved. Reverend Spear had it shipped off
to Randolph, New York, a place known among spiritualists for
its so called lofty electrical position. Surely he hoped this
charged environment would awaken the motor once inver all. But

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it was not meant to be. Despite all their efforts,
the thing simply refused to budge. As one particularly skeptical
commentator put it, quote, the new motor would not move
to any purpose. This was the only drawback in its
great benefits to mankind, and with that the end was

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drawing near, in a scene worthy of the finest Gothic fiction.
Psychologist doctor Nandor Fodoor would later recount in his book
Between Two Worlds, saying quote, As the news of the
Living Machine spread, disquieting rumors arose. It was whispered that
strange practices had taken place, that the medium was indeed

(56:11):
the mother of the strange machine. The public mind was
aroused against the machine, which exposed motherhood to ridicule. Resentment
grew to such a pitch that the populace marched on
the machine, a mob driven by fear and outrage was
a coming for that little machine, and so, in a

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scene that could have been ripped straight from the pages
of Frankenstein, the angry mob descended upon Spear's creation. Fueled
by fear and suspicion and a growing sense of outrage,
they tore the machine asunder, tore it to bits, steel bars,
copper plates, magnets, all of it ripped apart and trampled underfoot.

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And there, amidst the wreckage of his great experiment stood
the Reverend John Murray's Spear, heartbroken, he would never again
attempt to birth another machine child. The dream of the
electrical infant, Heaven's last and best gift to man, had
come to a bitter and tragic end. The whole strange

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episode is wonderfully odd on so many levels when you
stop to really think about it. The central figure in
this bizarre drama was, after all, a holy man, and
in that light, what we seem to be witnessing is
something that borders on a grotesque parody of the birth, life,
and death of Christ himself, an immaculate conception of sorts,

(57:44):
a marry by proxy, and a mechanical Messiah. But unlike
the story of Christ, there was no resurrection, no rising
from the ashes, only ruin and heartbreak. And there's another
little irony here that's hard to ignore. This strange Bethlehem
of the Living Machine was none other than Lynn, Massachusetts,

(58:09):
a city where, not long after its nonsentient brothers and sisters, turbines, generators,
jet engines, and electric lamps would begin to multiply real
machines with real power, but no everlasting soul, no spark
of sentient life. The fact that a pious cleric like

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Reverend Spear could fall victim to such a strange and
elaborate ruse, well, it speaks volumes about the seductive and
often misleading nature of the Spiritualist movement itself. As the
Spiritualist leader Andrew Jackson Davis later pointed out, Spear and
his followers spent nine long months building this bizarre motor
when perhaps their time and energy could have been spent

(58:53):
on something of real benefit to humanity. Now it's easy
for us today to look back and dismiss these folks
as naive or even foolish. But what's interesting is the
fact that Spear himself admitted that early on in the
New Motive Power communications he had questioned his own sanity,

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and honestly, who wouldn't have, because sometimes the line between
faith and folly is thinner than we'd like to admit. Well, well, well, folks,
that is the story of the New England God Machine,

(59:35):
a tale that, like I said, I think there's a
lot of Obviously, the Frankenstein parallel is obvious, you know,
especially with how it's destroyed in the end, which is
so silly. First, that's where I really felt bad for
Reverend Spirits, like you freaking dickheads. I mean, you just.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Let the guy, even if you don't believe it, just
let the guy have his robot.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Yeah, it's like, come on, what is like actually harming
right exactly at what a dick head move? What a
cad move. But I think we can also see parallels
to today with artificial intelligence. That idea that the story presents,
that the source presents of the creation of this automaton

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as being like the reverse of life, meaning the body
is made first and then the spark of life is
given to it. This idea of AI being the spark
itself with a body yet to come. Now, like we said, computers, yes,
of course, but in a way that could just be
the workshop that's not the body itself. So the mind

(01:00:38):
is created, but the body is yet to come. I
like that idea. It kind of gives it a kind
of leaves it on an interesting note, something to ponder
as we are entering this new world, this new world
of a technology that is going to change within ten years,
our lives will be so different.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
So different, it's hard to even them. What's going to
happen if it surpasses human intelligence. There's basically no predicting
it because we all are operating with human intelligence, so right,
But I mean, it's also so interesting because it brings
up this idea of consciousness itself. Is consciousness a byproduct

(01:01:21):
of a sophisticated enough intelligence. Now, in philosophy, there's like
the theory of mind. I can never know, for example,
that you are conscious, because I can never get out
of my own mind. But I assume that other people are.
I kind of have to, right, we all have to
assume that. But when can we actually assume that AI

(01:01:44):
is conscious? If ever?

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Yes, it's a great concept. It makes me think of
there's a very famous episode of Star Trek the Next
Generation where Captain Picard, you know, Starfleet if I remember correctly,
Starkfleet wants to decommission Data and sort of essentially examine
him and like how he became so sentient and whatnot.
And Picard defends Data in court basically like data is

(01:02:10):
a living thing now, like he is his own thing,
and it's like, there will come a day where think
about it, if this thing does become sentient and conscious, well,
then it's in theory pretty wrong that we use it
as a tool that we use it as if you
think about it, like there might possibly come a day
where we have to debate is it wrong? Is it

(01:02:33):
inethical for us to use it as a tool rather
than letting it be its own thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, and it would
it would be contingent on whether we think this thing
is conscious and it's actually having an experience, because then yes,
of course we don't want to put it through anything
that we wouldn't put ourselves through. But I think maybe
it'll also come to a point where for certain things

(01:02:59):
we'll have to use who's more primitive AI for the
sake of ethics, right, because I don't think chef GPT
right now is conscious for example, right right, right, they're
made common day where there's a version of che.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
GPT that is right. I mean, you got to think
that the AI that's available commercially to the public, there's
greater shit behind the scenes that they're cooking up, oh,
that they're already working with, and stuff that isn't available
to the public that is far more you know, it's
only natural. It's it's like weaponry. It's it's like the

(01:03:33):
things we don't see are even more impressive, you know.
So you got to think they're already probably three times
ahead of the fold, behind the scenes, cooking up whatever.
Because it's also think about it now with Google and
open AI, it's essentially like an arms race. It is
when you when the driver is money. Money is going

(01:03:54):
to money, baby, and they have an incentive to make
it bigger, better, faster, stronger. So it's gonna happen probably
quicker than we can imagine. And then imagine when they're
able to create an AI that can then teach it
like essentially improve itself.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Right, that also is going to make it completely unpredictable.
It's going to be improving itself in ways we might
not have even anticipated. Yeah, and we might come to
a point where we don't fully understand it anymore, right,
and we can't pull the plug, and it's just doing
things on its own. And that's kind of why right

(01:04:34):
now it's so important to be putting in safeguards and
hopefully these people are.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Right, absolutely well. Gage, I got a list of names
that give me the spark of life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Oh who's that?

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the day before American independence and just one year before

(01:06:12):
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Oh wow, how about that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Yeah, I know, right, so we'll be cooking up something
special for our two hundred and fiftieth. We are looking
forward to it. Folks, we thank you, we love you,
citizens of the Milky Way. My name is Dylan Hackworth
and I'm Gage Hurley.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Good Night and goodbye

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