March 26, 2021 • 58 mins
Genevieve welcomes Dedra Shahan to the Parlour for a St Patrick's day celebration. Join them as they talk about haunted Ireland. Dedra is the owner of Cowboy Way Travel and Unseen Ireland.
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Good evening, everyone, and welcometo the Creepy Parlor. I'm Genevieve
and I will be your ghost isfor the next hour as we delve into
the darker side of Saint Patrick's daythis evening. I'm very excited about my
guest this evening, my friend AdrewSheahan. She's from Cowboy Way Travel.
I'll give her a moment to introduceherself shortly, but she is an absolutely
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amazing travel agent and she's done customizedtrips for people throughout Ireland. So we're
going to talk a little bit aboutthe darker side. The little haunted history
side of Ireland as we celebrate SaintPatrick's Day this evening. So without further
pause, I will bring I'll introduceeveryone to Deidre. Hello, my friend.
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Hey, Dinnavave, how are youthis evening. I'm doing very well.
How are you good? Know,excited to be here. Thank you
for asking me. Oh, thankyou so much for agreeing. I'm so
excited. You were the first personI thought of when I thought about Ireland.
So I love Ireland. It's sucha beautiful place. Well, I've
seen a lot of the pictures thatyou've sent and I it is definitely on
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my list of places to go,particularly not just because it's, you know,
the land of the ancestors, butalso because it's just so ancient and
haunted. That was the thing thatjust took my breath away when we first
landed in Ireland is how old everythingis. Like they sent me to the
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New Bank of Ireland to change mymany and the building is two hundred years
old, and that's when New Bankbank, you know, and then everything
is just ancient. You know,it's nothing to walk into pub that was
built in the thousands or eleven hundreds. Wow. Wow, Yeah, it's
that kind of old and you driveto the countryside and you look over here
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and there's a ruin, and youknow, down a little feather there's another
ruin of some tower house. It'sjust really cool to drive around Ireland,
i'd imagine. I mean, there'sa reason why people think Ireland is so
magical and that is so mystical.It's the land of fairies, land of
bansheese and all sorts of haunted history. I'd imagine there's a reason for that,
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right, And well, it's thethe ancient holiday of Saalin that we
do. Halloween now originated in Irelandwith the Celts, so it's a fire
festival they Ireland really does a Halloweennow, usually celebrated over three days.
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You've got part of it will bethe Bronze Stoker Festival, of the Puka
Festival and Drumhita and then up inthe north in Dairy is Salen and it's
just amazing with the parades and thecostuming and all the events concerts they have.
So I think you sent me apicture of a celebration. I did.
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Yeah, that's in Dairy and that'sjust just you know, a portion
of all the costumes and the floats. Think Macy Thanksgiving Day parade only spooky.
That sounds right up my alley.It's awesome. I cannot wait to
be there. Have you been therefor for Sallen? No, I've just
missed it. Either it was overlike a couple of days before I got
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to go, or it was happeningright after I had to leave. So
I just missed it. But Iget to see the last time I was
there, I was right after Saalanand there were places that still had the
little turnips that they carved before JackLanard's I do one every year. Yeah,
there were still some of those upplaces. That was kind of cool.
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Yeah. I carved my turn upevery year, and every year I
think, oh, this is theyear I'm going to cut myself because there's
so much more difficult to be hard. They're very hard. Um, So
what was your favorite? Well weshould also mention I'm gonna I'm gonna run
your information here. Um, youstarted your company in nineteen ninety five,
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correct, Yes, I did.Um. I started My business is called
Cowboy Way Travel, and then Ihave a division and called Unseen Ireland that
deals with the Ireland side of mybusiness. Cowboy Way got its name.
Well, one we're in the cowboycapital of Texas. You might have noticed
I talk funny, and then Iwent that time we were rodeoing, and
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I was watching the cowboys lineup atthe payphones, calling you to the different
airline phones, payphones, trying toget from A to B two C.
And I's like, you know,I can do this. So it started
out my clients were rodeo cowboys,and now we're all gotten old and they're
not rodeoing anymore. But now Ido all sorts of vacations and wonderful luxury
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trips, and everything we do iscustom. I don't just supply you to
Ireland and send you on the bus. I will if you want that,
but the good stuff is on theback roads. So that that is one
of the things that I find reallyinteresting too, because you can really delve
into beside the off meat path exactly. If you're a literatory fan, there's
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nothing nowhere better than Dublin, whereyou've got Joyce and Yates and from Stoker
was born in Dublin, so you'vegot all of that, and you've got
these wonderful libraries. With the Bookof Kells. It's an illuminated manuscript from
the medieval days. It's just fabulous. In the chester Bad Library. And
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then there's another I think it's calledthe Charles Library, and there it's supposedly
haunted by the ghost of a ladywhose book is in there, and her
letter is in this book, soshe looks for her lost love letters better
in this book. So beautiful.I haven't met her, but she's there.
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I just want to say hi toeverybody. I have a lot of
friends. Pop it up, realreal off, we got Otis, we
got Tom Mallie Calvin, Hi,everybody, Hi Dilian, my sister Jennifer.
So um, before we delve intoa little bit more about Ireland,
we should put out our disclaimer thatif we are pronouncing these Gaelic names incorrectly,
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we cannot be held responsible. I'mreally sorry with the Texas accent.
Is just it's what is the wordperflexing me. It's very difficult. It
is difficult. My husband and Itook up an Irish language class, a
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gaylic class um a bunch of yearsago. And the thing that I remember
most well, first of all,I remember page Mathowen, that one I
remember. I guess my ask umyeah, I remember Jia Gwitch which I
believe leave was God bless you afew using the word slauncha slauncha yeah,
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we'll get into that one later.Yeah, but it was. It was
fascinating to me that the letters,it didn't matter which arrangement they were in,
they all sounded completely different. Yes, like you b h sounds like
the M. Yeah, it's veryinteresting. Yes, ODIs this is gonna,
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this is gonna be enjoyable. Thankyou for having sense of humor.
Yes, So, Ireland is knownas the land of fairies, the land
of Banshees, a land of ghosts. We've got the Blarney Stone which gives
all of us Irish the that giftof gab right. Yes, absolutely,
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um, those are some of thoseare some of my favorite things. Um.
Irish definitely have a gift of storytelling. Absolutely, it is a fine
tradition. And you meet people andthey just have a lovely way with words
and combining them in using words thatwe might not use an everyday language,
and just just so many rich adjectivesand it's wonderful to listen to. And
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you were talking about fairies. There'svery circles in Ireland and the road.
They have fairy trees and there's somevery trees and they take so seriously that
there was one in this field andthey were going to build the major freeway
interstate through this place and they hadto reroute it around the fairy tree.
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Well, you don't want to pissoff the fairies. You do not want
to make the fairies mad, Absolutelynot. And I think that that's one
of the most profoundly interesting things aboutIreland is that those legends and those stories
are still alive. Yes, andpeople are, whether they're true believers or
not. They take their legends seriously. And you know, you can go
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to there's different places and they aremarked as fairy mounds on the map.
Are people you're giving to actions?You know. Will you go down to
the road and when you see tothe right there'll be a ferrymound. You
don't want to go to the ferrymoun? Do you want to turn left there?
You know? So it's fun toget directions. Imagine what that must
be like. You get off alot and it's fun. Well, when
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you get lost in Ireland, howoh, you're driving on the opposite side
of the road, the other sideof the road. So like making left
hand and right hand turns. Youhave to think about it. And then
roundabouts you're going the other way aroundthese roundabouts a lot. And then the
left lane is not the pass lane. The left lane is the slow lane.
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Oh really, Oh yeah, theopposite of what of what we're doing
over here? Yeah, it's fun. So let's start with what would be
your favorite place to visit in Ireland? Oh, my goodness, wherever I
was last? No, I reallyloved the Connemara area north of Galway.
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That felt very at home to me. It's just beautiful and it's wind swept
and feels of heather and hills andit was just beautiful. I loved Galway.
I there was one of my favoritethings that we did. We were
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driving. We've been driving all dayand pouring rain and it was past a
soft day. A soft day inIreland it's when it's just misty. Well,
this was a full on rain day. And we ended up in this
little town in south of Kilkenny calledInnishatigue, and it's on a river and
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it was all misty and moody andbeautiful flowers and it was just a little
little bitty town. And we stayedabove a pub there and that was pretty
magical. And then a place thatI particularly loved was Torque Waterfall outside of
Kilarney, and it was green andmossy and all the moss growing on the
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trees and the stones, and itwas pretty magical. You could picture sparriage
living there. I'd imagine they're everywhereeverywhere, and it must be so brilliantly
green. You fly in and youknow, if you're lucky enough for the
clouds to part where you're landing inIreland, case, you land early in
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the morning coming from the state andyou look out the window and it's just
it's truly as a patchwork of green, of all different shades of green and
the stone walls. And that's myfavorite thing, is landing in Ireland and
seeing all the green. It's hardto identify your favorite thing, isn't it.
There's so many. I love everythingabout it. So I have quite
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a few pictures that you sent overto me uploaded. Okay, I would
like to start with this guy hereah Loftus Hall. This is one of
the most haunted places in Ireland.Loftus Hall was the was the original building
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was built about eleven hundred. Thisis on the southern coast of Ireland.
It's on a wind swept peninsula withthe craggy rocks and near hook Had Lighthouse,
and it is changed hands from theLoftus family after the Cromwell went through
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and stripped all the lands from theCatholic iarish and gave it to the English.
Loftis went to the Toppenheim family.So here they are one dark night
out and um this this is ourour ghost story. So you have to
picture Loftis Hall is out on thiswind swept, craggy peninsula and so with
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this lighthouse, it's the only beacon. And lighthouse is about two miles away
and it's dark and it's thundering,and you know, you could still hear
the waves crashing even though this placeis probably a quarter of a mile inland.
And it's dark and it's in theearly seventeen hundreds and they're the only
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light for miles. Is this bigmanor house, and there's a family,
the Topham Himes, are sitting aroundplaying cards and just being in their dark
living space, lit by candles andlands. One does right, and there's
a knock on the door and theyopen it and it's always the Irish hospitality,
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and you just did that as manorhouse is welcome travelers, and this
man asked if he could stay afew days because the ship was supposed to
be coming in and they were delayedfrom the storms. So they family welcomed
him in. You know, he'sa very attractive, dark gentleman with you
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know, impeccable manners, and sothe family hasn't and so he's playing cards
and visiting and having meals with thefamily and their young daughter Anne. She
now remember she's probably about fifteen orsixteen. She lives a very solitary life
out on this peninsula. So here'sa handsome stranger, and she's very taken
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with him, and just di smittenwith this man. So they're playing cards
and she drops a card and sheleans over under the table to pick up
this card, and she screams andshe realizes instead of the card under the
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table, she sees the cloven hoofsof the devil in the strange And so
the devil realizes he's been found out, and he shoots in a ball of
fire through the roof of loaf distmanner, never to be seen again. And
poor Anne has completely lost her mindand is terrified, and they had the
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local priest come to do an exorcism, but they couldn't help her. She
just withered away, and the familyfinally confined her to what they called the
tapestry room, and so she didend up perishing, and the priests came
back and tried to exercise the houseagain and they felt like they got all
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the spirits except the tapestry room.So now the manor house is closed.
They were doing a few ghosts toursand they're trying to get it as a
B and B but they say thatwhen you walk through it definitely as an
uneasy presence in the tapestry room.Interesting, I think. And then my
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connection to Loftis Hall because I haveancestors that were this family where the loftis
in the fifteen early sixteen hundreds.But oh wow, yeah, now did
you see anything when you visited?I didn't get to visit because at the
time we were there, like theyhad the gate shut and they weren't doing
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tours. This was before the newowners have bought the place. So but
I did a really cool webinar withIrish Tourism where they had mediums in the
castle and are in Loftis and we'retouring. You know, that was a
really fun online event. Oh i'dimagine it would be. Let's just take
a look at it again to seehow magnificent it is. Look at that
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place. Yea, that's just unbelievable. I can't wait. I really do
have to new owners do something greatwith that. Look, I mean you
would have to. I wonder howone becomes an owner of a manor hole
in Ireland a lot of money andthen a lot of money to restore it.
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Oh I'm out, Yeah, I'mout. So let's take a look
at this other one that you sense. Oh that's ben Ratty Castle. Now,
this is what this is more myspeed actually yeah, Ben Ratty Castle.
Now it's located right north of theShannon Airport and they host medieval banquets,
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you know, with the whole drinkingyale and eating em chickens and and
Irish dancing and storytelling and it's agreat evening. A lot of people do.
That is their last night out beforethey fly home from Shannon. But
in the I think sixteen forty two, a member of the O'Neill clan owned
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the castle and there had a ladythat was visiting him, a young lady,
and in the middle of the nightshe had gotten she'd heard something outside
her window and went outside this orwent to her window up on the third
floor of the castle and looks outand meeting her gaze as this ragged,
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red headed woman in white, andshe screams, and then she realizes she's
on the third floor. So thespecter is wailing outside her third floor window,
and so I guess she the wholehouse has stirred up. And then
she learned the next morning that oneof the O'Neill relatives has died during the
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night, because that's the band.She is the harbinger of death and the
O'Neill family is one of the families. Correct, yes, yes, so
Teddy is Um. Teddy is ourthe the head guy here at WLFE,
our boss. Excellent. Um.He's going to Ireland summer Solstice twenty twenty
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two for a haunted tour. Somaybe I'll be able to if you can
during the summer solstice. Uh killcreeUm Mound up in near Sligo is a
passage tomb and the summer, thelight on the summer solstice comes in that
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passage tomb on the summer so ifyou have to get there, is that
the one that you sent? No, that was the one I sent.
That's on the Winner and Summer equinox. Let's take a look at that one,
because this is unbelievable, just theWinner Equinox. Yeah, this is
a new range and it's part ofNeolithic um mounds. Uh with No,
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there's two or three of these.This is the biggest one, and there's
eighty something of these carved stones aroundthe outside of it and on the way.
It's positioned in the winter for afew days leading up to the winter
solstice, the light comes through itand illuminates the entire chamber. It's just
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spectacular to watch. They do alive feed of it every year because they're
only twenty people can fit in thereat a time because it's so small.
But what's truly impressive about this.This is three thousand years older than the
Pyramids of Giza. That's unbelievable.Yeah, isn't that just amazing? It
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really is. It's so beautiful.Now, is this the one that you
said that they do a lottery toget in. Yes, they do a
lottery. You put your name inwith the people there at New Grange,
and if you're lucky, then youget their several days that they can take
you in and then you have tohope for a sunny day. Oh yeah,
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so the light show, how oftenis that happening? It did like
twice this year, so that wasreally nice to get to watch it.
That's nice, Teddy says, he'salready knows. He already knows, thank
you. I figured very very cool. So, um so we've got some
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ghost stories already have a Banshee story. One of the things I find really
interesting about the bandshees too, becauseyou know, we've got to keep it
a little bit darker since we're onthe creepy parlor m is that they really
only the Bandshe only cries for fivemajor Irish families, according to legend,
and one of them is the O'Neill's. Yes, the O'Neill's. Um gosh,
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I didn't make a note of allof those. I got them.
Oh, good for you, theO'Neill's, the O'Brien's, the O'Connors,
the cavanaughs, and the o'gradyes.And I think now they may have interspersed
so many that yeah, it's interestingvery very interesting. Um, have you
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ever heard the banshee? I mighthave screamed like a banshee, but I
have not heard a banshee knock onwood. Let's hope we don't. Yeah,
yeah, exactly. Well that's someof the other interesting things too about
Ireland is all the superstitions, rightyeah. There, there's all kinds of
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things to do and not to do, and you know, walk backwards out
of the cemetery and just all kindsof fun of fun things. Um in
Ireland. One of the cool placesthat we just happened on when we got
lost out in the Midlands, wesaw this big castle sitting out in a
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field and we thought, well,let's go figure out how to drive up
to that one. And so wekept driving till we found what we thought
was the entrance and you go throughall these huge, stately oak trees,
and when we got up to thecastle, it's like somebody really lived there,
but it was hippies that lived there, and they have all their trees
up close to the house covered inyarn bombed, you know, I mean
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there's round in these trees and likelittle white hanging and instead of lions sitting
there guarding their front door. Theyhad hippopotamuses and they weren't home, sadly
because I knawed. But when Igot back, I found out that this
big oak tree that I just wasenthraled with is called the Charlesville Oak,
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and it's been one of Europe's greattrees. And it's so big, like
the limbs are growing out onto theground now because they're so old in the
limbs or three and four and fivefeet thick, and you know, there's
little mushrooms growing in the lambs andmoss and everything. And the story goes
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that when a lamb breaks off thelower part of the Charlesville Oak, one
of the family dies. Oh wow, Yeah, And the house, that
castle is really haunted by a littlegirl that fell to her death from like
I guess. They have an openstairway going up the three or four floors
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of this intersection of the castle,and one of the children, I guess
went over the edge at some point. And I have a friend in Ireland
that does paranormal tours and they didour paranormal research and they were there and
she said, yeah, that wasreally really creepy in there, really yeah
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that she they really enjoyed that one. We have a way to go check
that out. Felicia, thank youfor logging in. It's nice to know
somebody. Um, I just wantto bring my mom's comment back up.
She says, no band chess forthe Flynns. My grandmother was a Flynn
and she was very, very veryproud of her Irish heritage, so much
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so that she actually passed away onSaint Patrick's Day. So wow, that's
to my nan. We're gonna takea quick break and then we'll come back
and talk a little bit more aboutsome of the Oh but real quick.
You got a little note from Karen. Hello Karen, Let's take our quick
break and we'll come back and talka little bit more about some of the
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right, I guys just say thisreal quick. My sister's watching um,
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My sister's watching us on her TVin her living room, which is gigantic,
so I'm sure my eye looks likea oh my goodness that that should
be lovely. So anyway, backto Ireland. So we have some scary
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ghost stories already, which I'm morethan happy to hear about. Um.
I want to show this other beautifulphotograph that you sent me, this one
that is at in Glenda Lock andit's Saint Kelvin's monastery and Kelvin Kevin,
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Saint Kevin m came about eight hundred. This is from the eight hundreds.
Wow. And it built this chapeland around towerhouse and the cemetery is so
ancient. And I was there inthe fall on a soft day and it
was drizzly, kind of misty day. And you can walk from Glenda from
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the cemetery in Saint Kelvin's. It'sabout a mile and a mile and a
half walk up to these beautiful lakesand it's just so peaceful. But I
can't imagine being here at dark.I think that's all I can think about,
as being there at dark. Well, I know that that's what I'm
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saying. I think I beat somebodyto hold my hand after dark here.
Oh I would ready, I wouldmove right in. It was really neat
all the the very very old tombstoneslike from the fifteen hundreds, and just
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ancient stuff. When you when yousee those, can you actually read them?
Still? Oh yeah, some ofthem you actually can. Some of
them are weathered too much. Sookay, now that leads me to my
next question. How do you findthese places? Trade secrets? No,
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we get when I find a subjectthat interests me or something that a client
asked about, Like if you wereyou know, I know you like creepy
things and you're wanting to go toItaly. For example, I would find
all the creepy cool for you togo to Italy, just like I would
find all the literary things for anotherclient, or all the architectural things for
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whatever makes someone happy. But inIreland I read a lot. I have
gotten into reading Irish medieval studies.Oh interesting, yeah, some of it
is. It is not light entertainingreading, but it's really interesting. Yeah.
A lot of a lot of greatthings have come out of Ireland.
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Um, not just not just theBear and the A lot of excellent literature
has come out of Ireland, Yes, it has. They've very much value
the arts and still value the arts. M My sisters advocating now to go
to Ireland. So just so youknow, we've put that bug in her.
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Let's let's go to our Ireland.Because there's a ancient cemetery everywhere you
turn. And that's got to beinteresting too, because you could be just
driving down the street and you findoh, absolutely absolutely you can. It's
like um, in Boston, youknow, you come around a partner,
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there's another churchyard and it's like thatthere it's not a lot older, really
old. I want to see thecemeteries that are from the eight hundreds,
That's what I want to say.And some of them are just barely marked
with stone or are like they're interred. We've stumbled across um An Abbey near
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um Limerick and it's supposedly where SaintValentine is buried. There's so many Saint
Valentine's. Yeah, no, I'msorry, not Saint Valentine. Saint Nicholas
is supposedly. Yeah. I thinkthere's a few of those two, isn't
there? Probably? And then Iknow some of the saints were kind of
dismembered and their relics were spread outamong people. Is that interesting? That?
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That's you know, you take thisperson who is a saint and they
just distribute parts of them like Iwent in. I know this is not
Ireland, but in Guadalajara, Mexico, and there's this case in their Combec
cathedral and it's a finger of oneof the popes. Oh yeah, on
display for you to see this.Yeah, I'm sure there's pilgrimages to go
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see it as well. Yes,there are interesting I think we did not
hit this castle yet. This isClontarf Castle Hotel and the original the tower
portion kind of to the right,that is the original structure that was built.
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They were Nights Templar Templar and thennow they built the part to the
east is like the eighteen thirties,the Georgian part, and then then they've
added hotel rooms to it. Andbut you can still see on the inside.
They've done a wonderful job in thelobby area of blending the ancient stone
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you know, with modern and it'slovely. But what's super interesting about this
it's in Clontarf, which is acrossthe Leafy from Dublin Center proper and not
so far from the airport, soI always usually start ma people out at
Clontarf. Clontarf had a big ragingbattle with Brian Boo and they, you
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know, tried to establish their independencefrom the Gauls and it's a really epic
battle. But on the backside ofthis hotel is a hurt and there's graves
of the Nights Templar buried there,and it was cool. I got to
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have a room that faced the backof the hotel and overlooking the graveyards that
was that was a neat thing.To get to do. Did you see
any ghosts while you were there?Maybe mostly I was a bleary eyed from
an overnight jet lag, so um, yeah that I might have seen some
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shadows that I couldn't explain outside thewindows. So it was one of those
soft evenings. So are they whenyou when you have those old graveyards and
cemeteries and things like that. Arepeople allowed to just go in or you
can go in like most of themare open. Some of them they will
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close the gates at night just tokeep people from mischief, you know.
Um, but it just depending onyou. You can them around in them
whenever you like and touch them andit's great. And what I'm always amazed
about is the energy that you feeleverywhere in Ireland and it's old and it's
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like memory of the land. Wellthere's a you know, there's different types.
People believe that there's different types ofghosts. That there's some that are
sentient and that can converse with you, and then there's some that are environmental,
that they're residual. Residual. Ireally do believe in the concept of
residual energy and it very much soin Ireland. When you're you're there,
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you can feel the past, especiallywith I guess with such a small island
that has such a tremendous amount ofhistory. Yes, yes, you know.
They can't even dig up some youknow, dig a hole to planet
tree without finding relics in the ground. And one of the places in Dublin
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that I have never been able toforce myself to go in, like have
been twice is Killian And I'm notpronouncing that word at all, right,
we already gave it disclaimer. It'sokay. It looks like Killian goal and
it's the jail and it was thesite of where they killed the people.
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The Irish patriots from the nineteen sixteenuprising, the Irish Uprising were shot and
assassinated there, and you know,all kinds of political prisoners have been there,
and the energy coming out of thattoo. For me, it just
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was like shoving me out, likedon't come in. So it's like I
took the hint and I've tried twiceand I can't get through the door.
So just on a side note,do you are you um psychic? Are
you sensitive? Are you how doyou impuire yourself with I'm sensitive? I
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don't I don't profess to be psychic, but I'm kind of good at tarot
cards and um no, but Idid I feel things, Nike, I
don't really see ghosts. You ask, they would pretty much need to tap
me on the shoulder and say boo, you know for me to know.
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Yeah, but I get feelings andplaces in Ireland. Um, is that
is that for you? Is thatjust in Ireland? Or have you experienced
that? Well? What I dothat a little here? Like I'm my
building here on our town square.Um, we know it was here at
least in eighteen eighty two, andsupport supposedly it's the oldest building here.
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It was in Adobe Saloon. Andthere is tale of somebody that haunts these
buildings my side of the block.And at different times they'll be things that
that are not discably moved, notwhere I left them. And so I
call him Luke the Spook. AndI noticed when things are moving when I
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haven't acknowledged his presence in a while, he's trying to get your attention.
He needs my attention some days.Yeah, that's really interesting. I mean,
you know here we have such awhen you think about it, you
know, I live in a townthat was that was started in the mid
seventeen hundreds, and I think thatthat is so old, but you look
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at a place like Ireland in seventeenhundred is probably one of the newer.
Yeah, some of the buildings thatthose are new buildings. Yeah, and
um, every castle you could justpretty much say every castle has a ghost.
There's a castle called Mahalaid Castle andit's just you know, a quick
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twenty minute on the tram ride awayfrom Dublin's Inner Proper and there there's a
story of a of the caretaker thatfell in love with the young lady of
the castle and she spurned his affectionsand he I think he committed suicide,
and supposedly he still wonders the halls. And I had friends that were over
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there with me on the one ofthe last tours that we did, and
and they were like, they allswore they saw a ghost. So it
was too much guinness or they Eitherway, if you believe that your then
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you had your experience, right,very experience. Yep. So what do
you have coming up? I knowthat this past year has been really difficult
with the pandemic and all that stuff, but I'm waiting on Ireland to open
the borders and then we are ready. I'm ready to send you in.
They're ready to welcome us, andthey're just ready. You know. The
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pubs are closed and they're all hurtingjust so much, and the restaurants in
the museums are closed and they're justreally they need our dollars when when the
time's right, yeah, um.But in the meantime, there are other
places that people can visit and theycan contact you. Yes, yes,
absolutely, places we can go rightnow. Um, what's your what was
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in my life? Um? Whathave you? What have you been booking
lately? I'm booking Mexico left andright that that's been um, very popular,
Riviera Maya, Caabo, Porta Villarta. The precautions they're taking there are
just phenomenal and everything really lovely,lovely resorts from dooking booking a lot of
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that. Dominican Republic, Costa Ricais easy to go to right now,
to a little Hawaii, they're alittle more strip. We're booking Jamaica.
I love. The rules changed forJamaica pretty regular, so that's been a
challenge keeping up with those. That'sgonna be hard too, I mean,
I know, just with my ghosttour business. Keeping up with what you
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can and can't do throughout the pandemichas business. This is not the year
to d I y your travel.Yeah, yep, that's a good question
for all you guys out there.Check out UM Cowboy Way Travel. UM.
Definitely give Ddra a call because she'llhelp you out. Thanks. And
if you don't use me, usesomebody that's a real full time travel agent.
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Yeah, i'd imagine. I meanI saw your pictures, some of
your pictures from UM. I can'tremember where in Mexico they were, but
I was about this fall. Yeah, absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, I loved
it there. The duxt position ofthe color of the water and the pink
and yellows of the rocks, it'sjust amazing. Yeah. Yeah. That
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Ireland. It's not Ireland. It'snot Ireland. That was my other question
for you. How do you goto all these places and not say,
like when I travel, I'm like, oh I want to live here.
I do. Then my favorite placeis the last place I was I was
at you know, so no,but Ireland. I always keep going back
up in like ten times now ohwow. Yeah, And so we started
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like the last few times we gotry to like, pick one little area
and really explore a region and nottry to do the whole thing. You
know, every trip. How howlong do you think that someone needs to
really get a good sense of Ireland? And at least seven at least because
the night going over, you know, you could get a good sense of
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things. And Ireland is so easyto get around either by train or bus
if you didn't want to take aprivate car. I've had young people that
that didn't want to drive, andso we trained them between places and then
put them like on a day tourto go see aside, you know,
for them to get to. Sothere's lots of ways to do Ireland.
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How is it driving? Back roadsis the best? How is it driving?
It's it's if you're the passenger,the like you they have big,
nice freeways, but then when youget off onto what I would call a
county road, there are two lanepaves and they're narrow two lanes, so
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they're not like wide two lanes,and they have no shoulders. So right
there on the edge, um,you have a headgehrow growing up or a
rock wall, but mostly like ahedgehrow. So if you're the passenger,
there's a lot of puckering, youknow, and dodging away from the strokes
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it's right there. Yeah, I'dimagine like a lot of hitting the air
brake. Yeah. So when wewere coming, we went to the Cliffs
of More and we got there justin time to watch the sunset. Oh
wow, and oh it was fabulous. I mean, the skies parted,
so we had this beautiful sunset andso we're but and then the fog came
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back in. So we've got togo down it's a very windy road to
get from the cliffs back into Galway. And we're coming down this road and
it's pitch black and it's drizzly rain. And we listened to Lyrica Radio in
Ireland. That's the national public station. They flay out of classical and as
it's a cool station. So we'relistening to this station and all of a
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sudden, the Pink Panther comes on. So I've got a recording on my
phone and the didn't didn't didn't,you know, And the music was like
timed with the curves. It wasgreat. It sounds it sounds very interesting.
It sounds a little bit scary,well, you know, and they
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have it's a lot of fun.So we can do if you don't want
to drive and you have the time, private drivers and guides. That's a
really lovely way to do it.And we can rent you a whole haunted
castle for a few days if youwant the whole castle week, that can
be done. That would be lifechanging. Yes, there's some that you
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know, you get a group offriends and you can runt a whole castle
to yourself. I hope all youguys out there, all my friends out
there, are listening to that andstart getting those seeds planted. Yeah.
We've done some really cool weddings inIreland and some great honeymoons, and done
people trips for people going in searchof their ancestors. And you know,
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I'm very much into genealogy, andso we found the cemetery where some of
the ancestors who are buried, sothat they could go find these places or
get them hooked up with a genealisjust to Ireland. That could help too.
That must be so powerful, it'svery powerful, so much so many
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of us have Irish ancestry. Yes, and Karen, why wouldn't you want
that? I'm guessing she means havingthe whole castle to ourselves, Karen,
we need to go have a wholecastle to ourselves and have a cook that
it would be a great thing.Yes, I would change my name and
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you would never hear from me again. I was talking about him, like
when I go to Ireland, somy name is de Drash and every every
year there'll be two or three peoplewhen I introduced myself they'll say, oh
girl, your mother has your namewrong. Your name should be dear drashe
Han. I'm like, okay,just call him. Just keep buying the
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pints and I'll be Dedra or whatever. You know. Well, we'll have
fun. Mary Kate says that hercousin passed a few years ago, always
wanted to go to the castle,so she must go for her. Yes,
yes you must, we should go. Karen says that if um,
if we go, she will evencook, which is a really good idea
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because I know Karen is a verygood cook. I see pictures. Yes,
and the produce and the food isso fresh, and they eat so
much with the seasons there what's available, and the Irish cuisine is world class.
Yeah, a nice little note fromMary Kate. Happy anniversary and having
too my gram yep, that's that'llbe tomorrow. Yeah, that's just amazing.
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I will I will absolutely get thereone day, absolutely, and you
will be planning that throope. Reallyglad too. Yeah. I want to
get I want to get into allthe castles. I want to get into
as many of the um see asmany of the monoliths as possible them.
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The Ireland has these high crosses andthey're in cemeteries in town squares and they
the monks put them up too,and they have biblical stories um engraved on
the side for the people that wereliterate, so they could tell them the
different biblical stories and so there's abunch of those still standing. That's another
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thing too, is that the entireculture is so intertwined with the religion very
much. Yeah, it's fascinating.So any any um final recommendations for our
our viewers. If you go toIreland, you definitely need a few days
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in Dublin, m but get outinto the countryside and meet the people and
visit with the people, go intothe little places and just enjoy and relax
and have fun and not try tosee the whole thing. I'm really bad.
I'm one of those that needs tosee everything. And it took me
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a couple of trips to figure outI can see portions and experienced portions.
I think that's that's a very umright now. Our society we want to
like everything all at once, Wewant to download all the information. We
wanted to know everything all at once, and to take your time and experience.
It is kind of like almost likea lost art of One of the
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clients that said she had the bestexperience ever is with some sisters that we're
celebrating a milestone birthday and they wedid a horseback riding tour and they stayed
in manor houses and ends for thesefour days, and somebody took their possessions
from one place to the next andthey rode good horses through the countryside and
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a crowd down the beach, andshe said that was really powerful for her.
Wow, So you really can bookyou design, you want, anything
you want, we can make ithappen. I know people with private art
collections and yachts and um that takeyou out on the lakes and whiskey tasting
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in castle cellars and any kind ofexperience you can think of. Walks across
the moors in Northern Ireland, wecan do that. There's just a unlimited
amount of things to do stargazing places, and then the Game of Thrones locations
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in the north even touch that.Yeah, it really so that that isn't
if anyone is a Game of Thronesfan um. Dark hedges, Dark hedges,
dark hedges. That's where those birchtrees all come together, that crow
crows. I think they called itthe Royal Road or the King's Road in
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the story. And I had foundthis before my very first trip to Ireland.
I found a picture on Pinterest ofthose trees and I love I have
a thing for trees and rocks,and so I kept researching and researching until
I found where this thing was.And then I met Patti Campbell that lives
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near Belfast, and he knew whereit was. And so when we went
by train from Dublin to Belfast,he picked us up in his cute little
bubble car and turned us around andwe got to the Dark Hedges and they
were actually filming there, and hemade them stop filming so I could get
I mean, you know, likethey're trying to set up for a shoot,
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and made them stop so I couldget out there. In the middle
of that and take some pictures,so it's like it's the Atlantic for this
hospitality. Yeah, Robert White,he just had an image of a Sicilian
the Spaniard and a giant holding upone of the horses. It was a
princess bride reference. I love theprincess bride about it. So we are
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just about out of time. Beforewe sign off, I want to make
sure everybody goes and takes a lookat Deadra's um Facebook page Unseen Ireland,
and she also has Cowboy Way Travel. Please take a look if you're interested
in booking any trips, she's morethan happy to help and she's absolutely amazing.
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Please like, follow, share herpage. Any last thoughts, my
friend, Because we are just aboutthat we can all get together again and
go experienced places, and I thinkwe're all going to have a new appreciation
for when we do get to goand to be able to hug people again.
Wouldn't that be good? Won't thatbe wonderful? It'll be even very
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nice nice to see our friends again. Well, thank you so much for
joining me tonight and celebrating this beautifulisland. Well, thank you for having
me, Jinny. This was ablast. That's my favorite subject, so
excellently any time. Come back.Absolutely, we'll have more guests range excellent,
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excellent, Well we are just aboutat a time, my creepy darlings,
thank you so much for joining mehere this evening and for joining our
wonderful guest Dedra. Please please checkout her Facebook page, check out WLFE
dot com, WLFE Young Facebook,the Creepy Parlor. We have a lot
of great content here on WLFE.Up next is where's my stage? Hang
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out and watch those guys. We'vegot Real Talk with Dom on Mondays.
I'm co co host on that show. We've got a lot of really cool
stuff, so please check out WLFE. There's something for everybody. So with
that we have to use our favoriteIrish term, Happy Saint Patrick's Day and
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sluncha luncha. Thank you again somuch for joining me. Thanks for having
me Jinny, it was a blast. Thank you. I will I will
talk to you in a moment.Thank you for joining us on the Creepy
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Good evening, everyone, and welcometo the Creepy Parlor. I'm Genevieve
and I will be your ghost isfor the next hour as we delve into
the darker side of Saint Patrick's daythis evening. I'm very excited about my
guest this evening, my friend AdrewSheahan. She's from Cowboy Way Travel.
I'll give her a moment to introduceherself shortly, but she is an absolutely
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amazing travel agent and she's done customizedtrips for people throughout Ireland. So we're
going to talk a little bit aboutthe darker side. The little haunted history
side of Ireland as we celebrate SaintPatrick's Day this evening. So without further
pause, I will bring I'll introduceeveryone to Deidre. Hello, my friend.
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Hey, Dinnavave, how are youthis evening. I'm doing very well.
How are you good? Know,excited to be here. Thank you
for asking me. Oh, thankyou so much for agreeing. I'm so
excited. You were the first personI thought of when I thought about Ireland.
So I love Ireland. It's sucha beautiful place. Well, I've
seen a lot of the pictures thatyou've sent and I it is definitely on
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my list of places to go,particularly not just because it's, you know,
the land of the ancestors, butalso because it's just so ancient and
haunted. That was the thing thatjust took my breath away when we first
landed in Ireland is how old everythingis. Like they sent me to the
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New Bank of Ireland to change mymany and the building is two hundred years
old, and that's when New Bankbank, you know, and then everything
is just ancient. You know,it's nothing to walk into pub that was
built in the thousands or eleven hundreds. Wow. Wow, Yeah, it's
that kind of old and you driveto the countryside and you look over here
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and there's a ruin, and youknow, down a little feather there's another
ruin of some tower house. It'sjust really cool to drive around Ireland,
i'd imagine. I mean, there'sa reason why people think Ireland is so
magical and that is so mystical.It's the land of fairies, land of
bansheese and all sorts of haunted history. I'd imagine there's a reason for that,
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right, And well, it's thethe ancient holiday of Saalin that we
do. Halloween now originated in Irelandwith the Celts, so it's a fire
festival they Ireland really does a Halloweennow, usually celebrated over three days.
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You've got part of it will bethe Bronze Stoker Festival, of the Puka
Festival and Drumhita and then up inthe north in Dairy is Salen and it's
just amazing with the parades and thecostuming and all the events concerts they have.
So I think you sent me apicture of a celebration. I did.
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Yeah, that's in Dairy and that'sjust just you know, a portion
of all the costumes and the floats. Think Macy Thanksgiving Day parade only spooky.
That sounds right up my alley.It's awesome. I cannot wait to
be there. Have you been therefor for Sallen? No, I've just
missed it. Either it was overlike a couple of days before I got
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to go, or it was happeningright after I had to leave. So
I just missed it. But Iget to see the last time I was
there, I was right after Saalanand there were places that still had the
little turnips that they carved before JackLanard's I do one every year. Yeah,
there were still some of those upplaces. That was kind of cool.
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Yeah. I carved my turn upevery year, and every year I
think, oh, this is theyear I'm going to cut myself because there's
so much more difficult to be hard. They're very hard. Um, So
what was your favorite? Well weshould also mention I'm gonna I'm gonna run
your information here. Um, youstarted your company in nineteen ninety five,
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correct, Yes, I did.Um. I started My business is called
Cowboy Way Travel, and then Ihave a division and called Unseen Ireland that
deals with the Ireland side of mybusiness. Cowboy Way got its name.
Well, one we're in the cowboycapital of Texas. You might have noticed
I talk funny, and then Iwent that time we were rodeoing, and
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I was watching the cowboys lineup atthe payphones, calling you to the different
airline phones, payphones, trying toget from A to B two C.
And I's like, you know,I can do this. So it started
out my clients were rodeo cowboys,and now we're all gotten old and they're
not rodeoing anymore. But now Ido all sorts of vacations and wonderful luxury
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trips, and everything we do iscustom. I don't just supply you to
Ireland and send you on the bus. I will if you want that,
but the good stuff is on theback roads. So that that is one
of the things that I find reallyinteresting too, because you can really delve
into beside the off meat path exactly. If you're a literatory fan, there's
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nothing nowhere better than Dublin, whereyou've got Joyce and Yates and from Stoker
was born in Dublin, so you'vegot all of that, and you've got
these wonderful libraries. With the Bookof Kells. It's an illuminated manuscript from
the medieval days. It's just fabulous. In the chester Bad Library. And
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then there's another I think it's calledthe Charles Library, and there it's supposedly
haunted by the ghost of a ladywhose book is in there, and her
letter is in this book, soshe looks for her lost love letters better
in this book. So beautiful.I haven't met her, but she's there.
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I just want to say hi toeverybody. I have a lot of
friends. Pop it up, realreal off, we got Otis, we
got Tom Mallie Calvin, Hi,everybody, Hi Dilian, my sister Jennifer.
So um, before we delve intoa little bit more about Ireland,
we should put out our disclaimer thatif we are pronouncing these Gaelic names incorrectly,
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we cannot be held responsible. I'mreally sorry with the Texas accent.
Is just it's what is the wordperflexing me. It's very difficult. It
is difficult. My husband and Itook up an Irish language class, a
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gaylic class um a bunch of yearsago. And the thing that I remember
most well, first of all,I remember page Mathowen, that one I
remember. I guess my ask umyeah, I remember Jia Gwitch which I
believe leave was God bless you afew using the word slauncha slauncha yeah,
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we'll get into that one later.Yeah, but it was. It was
fascinating to me that the letters,it didn't matter which arrangement they were in,
they all sounded completely different. Yes, like you b h sounds like
the M. Yeah, it's veryinteresting. Yes, ODIs this is gonna,
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this is gonna be enjoyable. Thankyou for having sense of humor.
Yes, So, Ireland is knownas the land of fairies, the land
of Banshees, a land of ghosts. We've got the Blarney Stone which gives
all of us Irish the that giftof gab right. Yes, absolutely,
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um, those are some of thoseare some of my favorite things. Um.
Irish definitely have a gift of storytelling. Absolutely, it is a fine
tradition. And you meet people andthey just have a lovely way with words
and combining them in using words thatwe might not use an everyday language,
and just just so many rich adjectivesand it's wonderful to listen to. And
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you were talking about fairies. There'svery circles in Ireland and the road.
They have fairy trees and there's somevery trees and they take so seriously that
there was one in this field andthey were going to build the major freeway
interstate through this place and they hadto reroute it around the fairy tree.
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Well, you don't want to pissoff the fairies. You do not want
to make the fairies mad, Absolutelynot. And I think that that's one
of the most profoundly interesting things aboutIreland is that those legends and those stories
are still alive. Yes, andpeople are, whether they're true believers or
not. They take their legends seriously. And you know, you can go
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to there's different places and they aremarked as fairy mounds on the map.
Are people you're giving to actions?You know. Will you go down to
the road and when you see tothe right there'll be a ferrymound. You
don't want to go to the ferrymoun? Do you want to turn left there?
You know? So it's fun toget directions. Imagine what that must
be like. You get off alot and it's fun. Well, when
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you get lost in Ireland, howoh, you're driving on the opposite side
of the road, the other sideof the road. So like making left
hand and right hand turns. Youhave to think about it. And then
roundabouts you're going the other way aroundthese roundabouts a lot. And then the
left lane is not the pass lane. The left lane is the slow lane.
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Oh really, Oh yeah, theopposite of what of what we're doing
over here? Yeah, it's fun. So let's start with what would be
your favorite place to visit in Ireland? Oh, my goodness, wherever I
was last? No, I reallyloved the Connemara area north of Galway.
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That felt very at home to me. It's just beautiful and it's wind swept
and feels of heather and hills andit was just beautiful. I loved Galway.
I there was one of my favoritethings that we did. We were
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driving. We've been driving all dayand pouring rain and it was past a
soft day. A soft day inIreland it's when it's just misty. Well,
this was a full on rain day. And we ended up in this
little town in south of Kilkenny calledInnishatigue, and it's on a river and
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it was all misty and moody andbeautiful flowers and it was just a little
little bitty town. And we stayedabove a pub there and that was pretty
magical. And then a place thatI particularly loved was Torque Waterfall outside of
Kilarney, and it was green andmossy and all the moss growing on the
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trees and the stones, and itwas pretty magical. You could picture sparriage
living there. I'd imagine they're everywhereeverywhere, and it must be so brilliantly
green. You fly in and youknow, if you're lucky enough for the
clouds to part where you're landing inIreland, case, you land early in
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the morning coming from the state andyou look out the window and it's just
it's truly as a patchwork of green, of all different shades of green and
the stone walls. And that's myfavorite thing, is landing in Ireland and
seeing all the green. It's hardto identify your favorite thing, isn't it.
There's so many. I love everythingabout it. So I have quite
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a few pictures that you sent overto me uploaded. Okay, I would
like to start with this guy hereah Loftus Hall. This is one of
the most haunted places in Ireland.Loftus Hall was the was the original building
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was built about eleven hundred. Thisis on the southern coast of Ireland.
It's on a wind swept peninsula withthe craggy rocks and near hook Had Lighthouse,
and it is changed hands from theLoftus family after the Cromwell went through
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and stripped all the lands from theCatholic iarish and gave it to the English.
Loftis went to the Toppenheim family.So here they are one dark night
out and um this this is ourour ghost story. So you have to
picture Loftis Hall is out on thiswind swept, craggy peninsula and so with
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this lighthouse, it's the only beacon. And lighthouse is about two miles away
and it's dark and it's thundering,and you know, you could still hear
the waves crashing even though this placeis probably a quarter of a mile inland.
And it's dark and it's in theearly seventeen hundreds and they're the only
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light for miles. Is this bigmanor house, and there's a family,
the Topham Himes, are sitting aroundplaying cards and just being in their dark
living space, lit by candles andlands. One does right, and there's
a knock on the door and theyopen it and it's always the Irish hospitality,
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and you just did that as manorhouse is welcome travelers, and this
man asked if he could stay afew days because the ship was supposed to
be coming in and they were delayedfrom the storms. So they family welcomed
him in. You know, he'sa very attractive, dark gentleman with you
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know, impeccable manners, and sothe family hasn't and so he's playing cards
and visiting and having meals with thefamily and their young daughter Anne. She
now remember she's probably about fifteen orsixteen. She lives a very solitary life
out on this peninsula. So here'sa handsome stranger, and she's very taken
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with him, and just di smittenwith this man. So they're playing cards
and she drops a card and sheleans over under the table to pick up
this card, and she screams andshe realizes instead of the card under the
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table, she sees the cloven hoofsof the devil in the strange And so
the devil realizes he's been found out, and he shoots in a ball of
fire through the roof of loaf distmanner, never to be seen again. And
poor Anne has completely lost her mindand is terrified, and they had the
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local priest come to do an exorcism, but they couldn't help her. She
just withered away, and the familyfinally confined her to what they called the
tapestry room, and so she didend up perishing, and the priests came
back and tried to exercise the houseagain and they felt like they got all
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the spirits except the tapestry room.So now the manor house is closed.
They were doing a few ghosts toursand they're trying to get it as a
B and B but they say thatwhen you walk through it definitely as an
uneasy presence in the tapestry room.Interesting, I think. And then my
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connection to Loftis Hall because I haveancestors that were this family where the loftis
in the fifteen early sixteen hundreds.But oh wow, yeah, now did
you see anything when you visited?I didn't get to visit because at the
time we were there, like theyhad the gate shut and they weren't doing
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tours. This was before the newowners have bought the place. So but
I did a really cool webinar withIrish Tourism where they had mediums in the
castle and are in Loftis and we'retouring. You know, that was a
really fun online event. Oh i'dimagine it would be. Let's just take
a look at it again to seehow magnificent it is. Look at that
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place. Yea, that's just unbelievable. I can't wait. I really do
have to new owners do something greatwith that. Look, I mean you
would have to. I wonder howone becomes an owner of a manor hole
in Ireland a lot of money andthen a lot of money to restore it.
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Oh I'm out, Yeah, I'mout. So let's take a look
at this other one that you sense. Oh that's ben Ratty Castle. Now,
this is what this is more myspeed actually yeah, Ben Ratty Castle.
Now it's located right north of theShannon Airport and they host medieval banquets,
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you know, with the whole drinkingyale and eating em chickens and and
Irish dancing and storytelling and it's agreat evening. A lot of people do.
That is their last night out beforethey fly home from Shannon. But
in the I think sixteen forty two, a member of the O'Neill clan owned
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the castle and there had a ladythat was visiting him, a young lady,
and in the middle of the nightshe had gotten she'd heard something outside
her window and went outside this orwent to her window up on the third
floor of the castle and looks outand meeting her gaze as this ragged,
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red headed woman in white, andshe screams, and then she realizes she's
on the third floor. So thespecter is wailing outside her third floor window,
and so I guess she the wholehouse has stirred up. And then
she learned the next morning that oneof the O'Neill relatives has died during the
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night, because that's the band.She is the harbinger of death and the
O'Neill family is one of the families. Correct, yes, yes, so
Teddy is Um. Teddy is ourthe the head guy here at WLFE,
our boss. Excellent. Um.He's going to Ireland summer Solstice twenty twenty
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two for a haunted tour. Somaybe I'll be able to if you can
during the summer solstice. Uh killcreeUm Mound up in near Sligo is a
passage tomb and the summer, thelight on the summer solstice comes in that
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passage tomb on the summer so ifyou have to get there, is that
the one that you sent? No, that was the one I sent.
That's on the Winner and Summer equinox. Let's take a look at that one,
because this is unbelievable, just theWinner Equinox. Yeah, this is
a new range and it's part ofNeolithic um mounds. Uh with No,
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there's two or three of these.This is the biggest one, and there's
eighty something of these carved stones aroundthe outside of it and on the way.
It's positioned in the winter for afew days leading up to the winter
solstice, the light comes through itand illuminates the entire chamber. It's just
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spectacular to watch. They do alive feed of it every year because they're
only twenty people can fit in thereat a time because it's so small.
But what's truly impressive about this.This is three thousand years older than the
Pyramids of Giza. That's unbelievable.Yeah, isn't that just amazing? It
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really is. It's so beautiful.Now, is this the one that you
said that they do a lottery toget in. Yes, they do a
lottery. You put your name inwith the people there at New Grange,
and if you're lucky, then youget their several days that they can take
you in and then you have tohope for a sunny day. Oh yeah,
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so the light show, how oftenis that happening? It did like
twice this year, so that wasreally nice to get to watch it.
That's nice, Teddy says, he'salready knows. He already knows, thank
you. I figured very very cool. So, um so we've got some
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ghost stories already have a Banshee story. One of the things I find really
interesting about the bandshees too, becauseyou know, we've got to keep it
a little bit darker since we're onthe creepy parlor m is that they really
only the Bandshe only cries for fivemajor Irish families, according to legend,
and one of them is the O'Neill's. Yes, the O'Neill's. Um gosh,
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I didn't make a note of allof those. I got them.
Oh, good for you, theO'Neill's, the O'Brien's, the O'Connors,
the cavanaughs, and the o'gradyes.And I think now they may have interspersed
so many that yeah, it's interestingvery very interesting. Um, have you
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ever heard the banshee? I mighthave screamed like a banshee, but I
have not heard a banshee knock onwood. Let's hope we don't. Yeah,
yeah, exactly. Well that's someof the other interesting things too about
Ireland is all the superstitions, rightyeah. There, there's all kinds of
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things to do and not to do, and you know, walk backwards out
of the cemetery and just all kindsof fun of fun things. Um in
Ireland. One of the cool placesthat we just happened on when we got
lost out in the Midlands, wesaw this big castle sitting out in a
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field and we thought, well,let's go figure out how to drive up
to that one. And so wekept driving till we found what we thought
was the entrance and you go throughall these huge, stately oak trees,
and when we got up to thecastle, it's like somebody really lived there,
but it was hippies that lived there, and they have all their trees
up close to the house covered inyarn bombed, you know, I mean
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there's round in these trees and likelittle white hanging and instead of lions sitting
there guarding their front door. Theyhad hippopotamuses and they weren't home, sadly
because I knawed. But when Igot back, I found out that this
big oak tree that I just wasenthraled with is called the Charlesville Oak,
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and it's been one of Europe's greattrees. And it's so big, like
the limbs are growing out onto theground now because they're so old in the
limbs or three and four and fivefeet thick, and you know, there's
little mushrooms growing in the lambs andmoss and everything. And the story goes
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that when a lamb breaks off thelower part of the Charlesville Oak, one
of the family dies. Oh wow, Yeah, And the house, that
castle is really haunted by a littlegirl that fell to her death from like
I guess. They have an openstairway going up the three or four floors
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of this intersection of the castle,and one of the children, I guess
went over the edge at some point. And I have a friend in Ireland
that does paranormal tours and they didour paranormal research and they were there and
she said, yeah, that wasreally really creepy in there, really yeah
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that she they really enjoyed that one. We have a way to go check
that out. Felicia, thank youfor logging in. It's nice to know
somebody. Um, I just wantto bring my mom's comment back up.
She says, no band chess forthe Flynns. My grandmother was a Flynn
and she was very, very veryproud of her Irish heritage, so much
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so that she actually passed away onSaint Patrick's Day. So wow, that's
to my nan. We're gonna takea quick break and then we'll come back
and talk a little bit more aboutsome of the Oh but real quick.
You got a little note from Karen. Hello Karen, Let's take our quick
break and we'll come back and talka little bit more about some of the
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right, I guys just say thisreal quick. My sister's watching um,
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My sister's watching us on her TVin her living room, which is gigantic,
so I'm sure my eye looks likea oh my goodness that that should
be lovely. So anyway, backto Ireland. So we have some scary
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ghost stories already, which I'm morethan happy to hear about. Um.
I want to show this other beautifulphotograph that you sent me, this one
that is at in Glenda Lock andit's Saint Kelvin's monastery and Kelvin Kevin,
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Saint Kevin m came about eight hundred. This is from the eight hundreds.
Wow. And it built this chapeland around towerhouse and the cemetery is so
ancient. And I was there inthe fall on a soft day and it
was drizzly, kind of misty day. And you can walk from Glenda from
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the cemetery in Saint Kelvin's. It'sabout a mile and a mile and a
half walk up to these beautiful lakesand it's just so peaceful. But I
can't imagine being here at dark.I think that's all I can think about,
as being there at dark. Well, I know that that's what I'm
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saying. I think I beat somebodyto hold my hand after dark here.
Oh I would ready, I wouldmove right in. It was really neat
all the the very very old tombstoneslike from the fifteen hundreds, and just
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ancient stuff. When you when yousee those, can you actually read them?
Still? Oh yeah, some ofthem you actually can. Some of
them are weathered too much. Sookay, now that leads me to my
next question. How do you findthese places? Trade secrets? No,
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we get when I find a subjectthat interests me or something that a client
asked about, Like if you wereyou know, I know you like creepy
things and you're wanting to go toItaly. For example, I would find
all the creepy cool for you togo to Italy, just like I would
find all the literary things for anotherclient, or all the architectural things for
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whatever makes someone happy. But inIreland I read a lot. I have
gotten into reading Irish medieval studies.Oh interesting, yeah, some of it
is. It is not light entertainingreading, but it's really interesting. Yeah.
A lot of a lot of greatthings have come out of Ireland.
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Um, not just not just theBear and the A lot of excellent literature
has come out of Ireland, Yes, it has. They've very much value
the arts and still value the arts. M My sisters advocating now to go
to Ireland. So just so youknow, we've put that bug in her.
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Let's let's go to our Ireland.Because there's a ancient cemetery everywhere you
turn. And that's got to beinteresting too, because you could be just
driving down the street and you findoh, absolutely absolutely you can. It's
like um, in Boston, youknow, you come around a partner,
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there's another churchyard and it's like thatthere it's not a lot older, really
old. I want to see thecemeteries that are from the eight hundreds,
That's what I want to say.And some of them are just barely marked
with stone or are like they're interred. We've stumbled across um An Abbey near
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um Limerick and it's supposedly where SaintValentine is buried. There's so many Saint
Valentine's. Yeah, no, I'msorry, not Saint Valentine. Saint Nicholas
is supposedly. Yeah. I thinkthere's a few of those two, isn't
there? Probably? And then Iknow some of the saints were kind of
dismembered and their relics were spread outamong people. Is that interesting? That?
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That's you know, you take thisperson who is a saint and they
just distribute parts of them like Iwent in. I know this is not
Ireland, but in Guadalajara, Mexico, and there's this case in their Combec
cathedral and it's a finger of oneof the popes. Oh yeah, on
display for you to see this.Yeah, I'm sure there's pilgrimages to go
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see it as well. Yes,there are interesting I think we did not
hit this castle yet. This isClontarf Castle Hotel and the original the tower
portion kind of to the right,that is the original structure that was built.
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They were Nights Templar Templar and thennow they built the part to the
east is like the eighteen thirties,the Georgian part, and then then they've
added hotel rooms to it. Andbut you can still see on the inside.
They've done a wonderful job in thelobby area of blending the ancient stone
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you know, with modern and it'slovely. But what's super interesting about this
it's in Clontarf, which is acrossthe Leafy from Dublin Center proper and not
so far from the airport, soI always usually start ma people out at
Clontarf. Clontarf had a big ragingbattle with Brian Boo and they, you
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know, tried to establish their independencefrom the Gauls and it's a really epic
battle. But on the backside ofthis hotel is a hurt and there's graves
of the Nights Templar buried there,and it was cool. I got to
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have a room that faced the backof the hotel and overlooking the graveyards that
was that was a neat thing.To get to do. Did you see
any ghosts while you were there?Maybe mostly I was a bleary eyed from
an overnight jet lag, so um, yeah that I might have seen some
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shadows that I couldn't explain outside thewindows. So it was one of those
soft evenings. So are they whenyou when you have those old graveyards and
cemeteries and things like that. Arepeople allowed to just go in or you
can go in like most of themare open. Some of them they will
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close the gates at night just tokeep people from mischief, you know.
Um, but it just depending onyou. You can them around in them
whenever you like and touch them andit's great. And what I'm always amazed
about is the energy that you feeleverywhere in Ireland and it's old and it's
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like memory of the land. Wellthere's a you know, there's different types.
People believe that there's different types ofghosts. That there's some that are
sentient and that can converse with you, and then there's some that are environmental,
that they're residual. Residual. Ireally do believe in the concept of
residual energy and it very much soin Ireland. When you're you're there,
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you can feel the past, especiallywith I guess with such a small island
that has such a tremendous amount ofhistory. Yes, yes, you know.
They can't even dig up some youknow, dig a hole to planet
tree without finding relics in the ground. And one of the places in Dublin
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that I have never been able toforce myself to go in, like have
been twice is Killian And I'm notpronouncing that word at all, right,
we already gave it disclaimer. It'sokay. It looks like Killian goal and
it's the jail and it was thesite of where they killed the people.
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The Irish patriots from the nineteen sixteenuprising, the Irish Uprising were shot and
assassinated there, and you know,all kinds of political prisoners have been there,
and the energy coming out of thattoo. For me, it just
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was like shoving me out, likedon't come in. So it's like I
took the hint and I've tried twiceand I can't get through the door.
So just on a side note,do you are you um psychic? Are
you sensitive? Are you how doyou impuire yourself with I'm sensitive? I
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don't I don't profess to be psychic, but I'm kind of good at tarot
cards and um no, but Idid I feel things, Nike, I
don't really see ghosts. You ask, they would pretty much need to tap
me on the shoulder and say boo, you know for me to know.
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Yeah, but I get feelings andplaces in Ireland. Um, is that
is that for you? Is thatjust in Ireland? Or have you experienced
that? Well? What I dothat a little here? Like I'm my
building here on our town square.Um, we know it was here at
least in eighteen eighty two, andsupport supposedly it's the oldest building here.
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It was in Adobe Saloon. Andthere is tale of somebody that haunts these
buildings my side of the block.And at different times they'll be things that
that are not discably moved, notwhere I left them. And so I
call him Luke the Spook. AndI noticed when things are moving when I
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haven't acknowledged his presence in a while, he's trying to get your attention.
He needs my attention some days.Yeah, that's really interesting. I mean,
you know here we have such awhen you think about it, you
know, I live in a townthat was that was started in the mid
seventeen hundreds, and I think thatthat is so old, but you look
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at a place like Ireland in seventeenhundred is probably one of the newer.
Yeah, some of the buildings thatthose are new buildings. Yeah, and
um, every castle you could justpretty much say every castle has a ghost.
There's a castle called Mahalaid Castle andit's just you know, a quick
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twenty minute on the tram ride awayfrom Dublin's Inner Proper and there there's a
story of a of the caretaker thatfell in love with the young lady of
the castle and she spurned his affectionsand he I think he committed suicide,
and supposedly he still wonders the halls. And I had friends that were over
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there with me on the one ofthe last tours that we did, and
and they were like, they allswore they saw a ghost. So it
was too much guinness or they Eitherway, if you believe that your then
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you had your experience, right,very experience. Yep. So what do
you have coming up? I knowthat this past year has been really difficult
with the pandemic and all that stuff, but I'm waiting on Ireland to open
the borders and then we are ready. I'm ready to send you in.
They're ready to welcome us, andthey're just ready. You know. The
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pubs are closed and they're all hurtingjust so much, and the restaurants in
the museums are closed and they're justreally they need our dollars when when the
time's right, yeah, um.But in the meantime, there are other
places that people can visit and theycan contact you. Yes, yes,
absolutely, places we can go rightnow. Um, what's your what was
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in my life? Um? Whathave you? What have you been booking
lately? I'm booking Mexico left andright that that's been um, very popular,
Riviera Maya, Caabo, Porta Villarta. The precautions they're taking there are
just phenomenal and everything really lovely,lovely resorts from dooking booking a lot of
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that. Dominican Republic, Costa Ricais easy to go to right now,
to a little Hawaii, they're alittle more strip. We're booking Jamaica.
I love. The rules changed forJamaica pretty regular, so that's been a
challenge keeping up with those. That'sgonna be hard too, I mean,
I know, just with my ghosttour business. Keeping up with what you
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can and can't do throughout the pandemichas business. This is not the year
to d I y your travel.Yeah, yep, that's a good question
for all you guys out there.Check out UM Cowboy Way Travel. UM.
Definitely give Ddra a call because she'llhelp you out. Thanks. And
if you don't use me, usesomebody that's a real full time travel agent.
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Yeah, i'd imagine. I meanI saw your pictures, some of
your pictures from UM. I can'tremember where in Mexico they were, but
I was about this fall. Yeah, absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, I loved
it there. The duxt position ofthe color of the water and the pink
and yellows of the rocks, it'sjust amazing. Yeah. Yeah. That
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Ireland. It's not Ireland. It'snot Ireland. That was my other question
for you. How do you goto all these places and not say,
like when I travel, I'm like, oh I want to live here.
I do. Then my favorite placeis the last place I was I was
at you know, so no,but Ireland. I always keep going back
up in like ten times now ohwow. Yeah, And so we started
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like the last few times we gotry to like, pick one little area
and really explore a region and nottry to do the whole thing. You
know, every trip. How howlong do you think that someone needs to
really get a good sense of Ireland? And at least seven at least because
the night going over, you know, you could get a good sense of
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things. And Ireland is so easyto get around either by train or bus
if you didn't want to take aprivate car. I've had young people that
that didn't want to drive, andso we trained them between places and then
put them like on a day tourto go see aside, you know,
for them to get to. Sothere's lots of ways to do Ireland.
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How is it driving? Back roadsis the best? How is it driving?
It's it's if you're the passenger,the like you they have big,
nice freeways, but then when youget off onto what I would call a
county road, there are two lanepaves and they're narrow two lanes, so
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they're not like wide two lanes,and they have no shoulders. So right
there on the edge, um,you have a headgehrow growing up or a
rock wall, but mostly like ahedgehrow. So if you're the passenger,
there's a lot of puckering, youknow, and dodging away from the strokes
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it's right there. Yeah, I'dimagine like a lot of hitting the air
brake. Yeah. So when wewere coming, we went to the Cliffs
of More and we got there justin time to watch the sunset. Oh
wow, and oh it was fabulous. I mean, the skies parted,
so we had this beautiful sunset andso we're but and then the fog came
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back in. So we've got togo down it's a very windy road to
get from the cliffs back into Galway. And we're coming down this road and
it's pitch black and it's drizzly rain. And we listened to Lyrica Radio in
Ireland. That's the national public station. They flay out of classical and as
it's a cool station. So we'relistening to this station and all of a
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sudden, the Pink Panther comes on. So I've got a recording on my
phone and the didn't didn't didn't,you know, And the music was like
timed with the curves. It wasgreat. It sounds it sounds very interesting.
It sounds a little bit scary,well, you know, and they
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have it's a lot of fun.So we can do if you don't want
to drive and you have the time, private drivers and guides. That's a
really lovely way to do it.And we can rent you a whole haunted
castle for a few days if youwant the whole castle week, that can
be done. That would be lifechanging. Yes, there's some that you
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know, you get a group offriends and you can runt a whole castle
to yourself. I hope all youguys out there, all my friends out
there, are listening to that andstart getting those seeds planted. Yeah.
We've done some really cool weddings inIreland and some great honeymoons, and done
people trips for people going in searchof their ancestors. And you know,
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I'm very much into genealogy, andso we found the cemetery where some of
the ancestors who are buried, sothat they could go find these places or
get them hooked up with a genealisjust to Ireland. That could help too.
That must be so powerful, it'svery powerful, so much so many
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of us have Irish ancestry. Yes, and Karen, why wouldn't you want
that? I'm guessing she means havingthe whole castle to ourselves, Karen,
we need to go have a wholecastle to ourselves and have a cook that
it would be a great thing.Yes, I would change my name and
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you would never hear from me again. I was talking about him, like
when I go to Ireland, somy name is de Drash and every every
year there'll be two or three peoplewhen I introduced myself they'll say, oh
girl, your mother has your namewrong. Your name should be dear drashe
Han. I'm like, okay,just call him. Just keep buying the
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pints and I'll be Dedra or whatever. You know. Well, we'll have
fun. Mary Kate says that hercousin passed a few years ago, always
wanted to go to the castle,so she must go for her. Yes,
yes you must, we should go. Karen says that if um,
if we go, she will evencook, which is a really good idea
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because I know Karen is a verygood cook. I see pictures. Yes,
and the produce and the food isso fresh, and they eat so
much with the seasons there what's available, and the Irish cuisine is world class.
Yeah, a nice little note fromMary Kate. Happy anniversary and having
too my gram yep, that's that'llbe tomorrow. Yeah, that's just amazing.
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I will I will absolutely get thereone day, absolutely, and you
will be planning that throope. Reallyglad too. Yeah. I want to
get I want to get into allthe castles. I want to get into
as many of the um see asmany of the monoliths as possible them.
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The Ireland has these high crosses andthey're in cemeteries in town squares and they
the monks put them up too,and they have biblical stories um engraved on
the side for the people that wereliterate, so they could tell them the
different biblical stories and so there's abunch of those still standing. That's another
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thing too, is that the entireculture is so intertwined with the religion very
much. Yeah, it's fascinating.So any any um final recommendations for our
our viewers. If you go toIreland, you definitely need a few days
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in Dublin, m but get outinto the countryside and meet the people and
visit with the people, go intothe little places and just enjoy and relax
and have fun and not try tosee the whole thing. I'm really bad.
I'm one of those that needs tosee everything. And it took me
(53:13):
a couple of trips to figure outI can see portions and experienced portions.
I think that's that's a very umright now. Our society we want to
like everything all at once, Wewant to download all the information. We
wanted to know everything all at once, and to take your time and experience.
It is kind of like almost likea lost art of One of the
(53:35):
clients that said she had the bestexperience ever is with some sisters that we're
celebrating a milestone birthday and they wedid a horseback riding tour and they stayed
in manor houses and ends for thesefour days, and somebody took their possessions
from one place to the next andthey rode good horses through the countryside and
(54:00):
a crowd down the beach, andshe said that was really powerful for her.
Wow, So you really can bookyou design, you want, anything
you want, we can make ithappen. I know people with private art
collections and yachts and um that takeyou out on the lakes and whiskey tasting
(54:25):
in castle cellars and any kind ofexperience you can think of. Walks across
the moors in Northern Ireland, wecan do that. There's just a unlimited
amount of things to do stargazing places, and then the Game of Thrones locations
(54:45):
in the north even touch that.Yeah, it really so that that isn't
if anyone is a Game of Thronesfan um. Dark hedges, Dark hedges,
dark hedges. That's where those birchtrees all come together, that crow
crows. I think they called itthe Royal Road or the King's Road in
(55:07):
the story. And I had foundthis before my very first trip to Ireland.
I found a picture on Pinterest ofthose trees and I love I have
a thing for trees and rocks,and so I kept researching and researching until
I found where this thing was.And then I met Patti Campbell that lives
(55:30):
near Belfast, and he knew whereit was. And so when we went
by train from Dublin to Belfast,he picked us up in his cute little
bubble car and turned us around andwe got to the Dark Hedges and they
were actually filming there, and hemade them stop filming so I could get
I mean, you know, likethey're trying to set up for a shoot,
(55:52):
and made them stop so I couldget out there. In the middle
of that and take some pictures,so it's like it's the Atlantic for this
hospitality. Yeah, Robert White,he just had an image of a Sicilian
the Spaniard and a giant holding upone of the horses. It was a
princess bride reference. I love theprincess bride about it. So we are
(56:16):
just about out of time. Beforewe sign off, I want to make
sure everybody goes and takes a lookat Deadra's um Facebook page Unseen Ireland,
and she also has Cowboy Way Travel. Please take a look if you're interested
in booking any trips, she's morethan happy to help and she's absolutely amazing.
(56:37):
Please like, follow, share herpage. Any last thoughts, my
friend, Because we are just aboutthat we can all get together again and
go experienced places, and I thinkwe're all going to have a new appreciation
for when we do get to goand to be able to hug people again.
Wouldn't that be good? Won't thatbe wonderful? It'll be even very
(56:59):
nice nice to see our friends again. Well, thank you so much for
joining me tonight and celebrating this beautifulisland. Well, thank you for having
me, Jinny. This was ablast. That's my favorite subject, so
excellently any time. Come back.Absolutely, we'll have more guests range excellent,
(57:19):
excellent, Well we are just aboutat a time, my creepy darlings,
thank you so much for joining mehere this evening and for joining our
wonderful guest Dedra. Please please checkout her Facebook page, check out WLFE
dot com, WLFE Young Facebook,the Creepy Parlor. We have a lot
of great content here on WLFE.Up next is where's my stage? Hang
(57:44):
out and watch those guys. We'vegot Real Talk with Dom on Mondays.
I'm co co host on that show. We've got a lot of really cool
stuff, so please check out WLFE. There's something for everybody. So with
that we have to use our favoriteIrish term, Happy Saint Patrick's Day and
(58:07):
sluncha luncha. Thank you again somuch for joining me. Thanks for having
me Jinny, it was a blast. Thank you. I will I will
talk to you in a moment.Thank you for joining us on the Creepy
(58:30):
bar of Join us next Tuesday atseven pm Easter Day for another fantastic show.
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