March 31, 2023 • 45 mins
As we're getting ready for season 5, we sat down with two of our voice actors, Amy Acevedo (voice of Juliet) and Arden Fitzroy (voice of Mar/i) to talk a bit about themselves, their experience being on the show, and what they're hoping for in the future.
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(00:02):
Welcome to town. Hi listeners,this is Victoria here and welcome back to
Cryptic Cape. Today we have alittle bonus episode for you in preparation for
season five. Today we have twoof our lovely voice actors joining us,
hanging out, chit chatting and talkingabout their experience of being on the show.
(00:24):
So I will allow them to introducethemselves. Arden, would you like
to go first? Sure? Hi, my name is Arden Fitzroy. I
play Mari and I don't know,I've loved being bought of this experience.
Hello. I am Amy A.Sabato, and I played Juliet and I
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get paid for this, so Ican say I'm a voice actor who exactly.
My next question was gonna be whodo you guys voice? But you
answered that? But would you liketo give us a little description? I
guess in your own words, whoyour characters are? So, also known
as Marie. It depends on thevibe of the day. Is a plane
walker, which is the show's terminologyfor a type of necromancer essentially, which
(01:15):
I think is super cool and alsoa kind of Nancy Drew type. I
think they're living in a world andeveryone else's cohabiting it. Marie is the
main character. Main character syndrome.How about Juliet. So I played Juliet
and she's like a little oh mygod, what's the word, like sprite,
(01:38):
like fairy. I think I callher a pixie. Pixie, that's
the word, thank you. Iwas like, what is it? Pixie?
And she's kind of like a littleaspiring journalist and she's almost kind of
like Ava's like annoying little sister,and that she kind of wants to do
the same work that she does,and she means well. And sometimes she
can be a little bit sassy,get in the way a little bit,
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but um, she's doing her best. She means well, and she wants
to have fun. I feel likeJuliet very much started off as the annoying
younger sister Vibe and is now justlike everybody's favorite. I mean, you
said it, not me. Itruns the show. I also adore the
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fact that, like for both ofyour characters, I originally didn't intend for
either of them to really be likemain characters in any sense, and now
I'm like, no, I loveArton and Amy too much that I need
to keep writing for them. Butyour characters have become more integrated into the
main storyline because I was just like, I need to keep them around too
good. Yeah. I remember whenI auditioned for this. I think there
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was a call out somewhere and itwas for it was for like a one
line or two liner. It wasEnglish parents, and I think in hindsight
it would have been like one ofthe new comer lockans a come across,
comes across in the grocery store andthe I think the audition mine was literally
something like I'm sorry, well,the Jeffer cakes. And I was like,
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yeah, I can do this.This falls within my remit and it's
all it's all snowballs from there.I was just looking for the jeff cakes,
you know what I mean exactly?That reminds me that line specifically.
I had a question for you later, Arden, but we can we can
talk about it now because it's agood transition. But you are from the
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UK. Are you originally from theUK? Yeah? Right, yeah,
yeah, And sadly, I meanwe're both living in America. It's a
little right, yeah. Yeah,it's not. Neither is great. It's
just not going great. It's notgoing great. But I just think it's
funny, Like there's some moments wherewe're in recording, and you're like,
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um, I don't know if ifI don't know if mar would say this,
because it's not really a thing likedid you want to talk about any
of that stuff of like the inconsistenciesbetween like it's usually a lot of slang
slang that Marie would be saying versusstuff that like I, as an American,
I'm like writing into the script.I just think it's always yes.
So that's actually really interesting and alittle bit of I think it involves a
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lot of examining the characterization because yes, some of the slang used maybe American,
but ma Is is a person whohas recently emigrated to the US,
so they may want to fit in, they may want to use this kind
of language, and let's not forgetbecause of the effects of American culture and
(04:42):
globalization, like we say stuff likethat too over here. So I think
there was one case where there wasa reference made to Cello being Hella smart,
and you asked me like, wouldMaria say that? And I was
like, well, we can whinenot. I think they would use that
because we do sometimes use that hereand yet maybe it sounds silly in our
(05:04):
little voices, but I'm also reallyamused by those little moments that I kind
of ask you, I kind oftake you aside before we record and ask
you, look, should I sayoregano or oregano here? Because clearly oregano
is the right way to say it, but I take I totally take the
(05:28):
lead from my director, you knowwhat I mean. Yeah, so that's
a lot of fun. Yeah,I had forgotten the like, yeah,
there's like slight pronunciation stuff too,and like we haven't said it in the
show, and I'm not going towrite it in because aluminum and aluminium is
a fight, that's a that's anarticle. Gloves are off, gloves are
off. I mean, I don'tknow, it might become relevant if the
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last scene of season five is HighCouncil versus the gang in the in the
I don't know, plutonium factory orlike I don't know, something along those
lines, the aluminium what whatever.But but yeah, I think that is
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just such It's such a small buta rewarding part of the process for me
because it just makes you think abouthow your character would be like in a
different culture to what they're accustomed to, and it's like a really rewarding side
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of Marie to kind of explore becauseit doesn't it's not in the text so
much with how they kind of becausethey don't talk about being discombobulated or whatever
in a new environment. But it'ssomething that's very much fair, and I
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think it's in language as well,So that's really interesting to me. This
has been a very waffling response,but this was a thought I have had.
No. I love it. Ilove hearing like one of my favorite
things as a writer on a showlike this where like we get to,
i don't know, like spend anot insignificant time with like like a good
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amount of characters. I feel like, you know, offers the main character,
but we have kind of an ensemblecast almost, and like since a
lot of them keep coming back,like we get to spend a lot of
time with them and everything, andlike getting to see you guys kind of
make your characters your own is veryfun and like because like when I'm writing,
I kind of like I'm just thekind of person where when I'm writing
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or when i'm reading, I kindof like hear it in my head and
stuff like that, and I likeI'll hear it kind of in your guys's
voices, and then you go andwe're recording and you take it a totally
different way that I didn't even thinkabout, and I'm like, oh my
god, I love that even more. That's awesome, you know, and
stuff like that with little characters visionsof like oh yeah, like mar would
have like held onto these slang terms, but maybe for these ones, they're
(08:05):
like kind of trying to be moreAmerican and cool and like because they're living
in American now. You know,it's very fun. I like it speaking
of acting choices and acting and youknow, voice and all the all the
stuff that we do here. Canyou guys tell me a little bit about
any other acting or voice acting stuffthat you do, experiences that you've had.
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I know, I think I thinkyou guys are coming from significantly different
places as far as like how muchyou've acted before, and I think that's
fun and interesting. Most of myacting experience actually came from acting in productions
that you created when you were younger. For anyone who does not know,
I am Vicky's younger cousin. Andactually how I originally started doing the show
(08:50):
was you kind of had like everyonein our family had like a little like
cameo and then you're like, yourrole might be just like a little bit
bigger. Like you said earlier,you weren't planning on it being this big.
And then you were like, hey, do you want to keep doing
more seasons? And I was like, oh my god, that's kind of
really scary. I don't think I'mthat good, but like, sure,
(09:11):
whatever, if you want me to, I will. There is a I
think it's still on my YouTube channel. Back if you go back a little
while, there's a video of Amyand three of her friends in a short
film called When Life Gives You Lemonswhere they make a lemonade stand. Her
and her friend have a lemonade standand there's two competing lemonade stand girls.
(09:31):
And it's very fun. It's verythat's so sweet. I need to watch
this. It was very fun.I still show it to my friends whenever,
Like I'm talking to my friends,I'm like, did you guys know
that you're best friends with like aviral YouTube sensation? Yeah? So,
very limited acting experience, but Ithink that the notes you've given me,
(09:54):
I've gotten pretty all right. Howabout you, Arden, I know you're
you're a thespian. Ah, Yes, this is when you get me on
and I kind of deliver that's kindof John Gielgood's on the podcast sort of.
Yes, when I was in theNational at the time of Olivier in
the nineteen sixties. Yes, it'sit's true. Acting is what I do
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for a given definition of what thatmeans. I've done voice acting mostly commercially,
which means that if you work fora certain corporation that a lot of
your e learning will be delivered bywhy is Marie suddenly telling me how not
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to be a dickhead at work topeople who are not like me? So
if you work at any of thosecorporations, which I don't think I should
name here, so I won't,but yes, you might hear the voice
of Marie. Also in terms ofvoice acting, I actually produced a podcast
and this is going to be likea sub plug, just really subtle.
(11:01):
I sweat wherever you get your podcasts. I produced a podcast for an art
organization called the Rise Collective season calledQueer Joy on their Amplify podcast, and
it was actually the culmination of asix month development and mentorship program for young
trans and non binary people wanting toget into audio. So that exists as
(11:24):
well, and it's it's the proudestI've been because the work that these people
have created is just incredible. AndI would encourage you to listen to it
because it's talking about experiences of whatit's like to be trans or non binary
in the UK spoiler alert. It'sall great, but it's also sharing joy
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and celebrating each other's artistic achievements andplatforming people who may have not had a
voice before. But going back toyour original question, Yeah, I'm an
actor. I trained in rose BrufordCollege. Most of the stuff I've done
has been stage, so really harkeningback to that, this is why I
(12:07):
turned into John Gielgud again. Yes, yes, I played Macucio. Yes
I've played this. Yeah, butyeah, going back to that kind of
classical acting experience and maybe coming toscreens and near you soon who knows,
who knows kind of there you go, and uh yeah, I will definitely
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link that podcast in the episode descriptionbecause I think everybody should go listen to
it. So we've talked a littlebit about your characters. How has it
been playing these characters? And Ithink there's there's a uniqueness to your guys's
characters compared to a lot of therest of the cast, where both of
you guys are older than the charactersyou're playing. They're both like, oh
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gosh, I can't remember the agesbut their teens, you know. As
someone who is just playing basically myselfbecause Alva's just me, I imagine it,
it's a bit of a different experienceplaying a younger person. So I'm
not sure what you mean, mydear, I'm not a day over fifteen
or else that skincare company has beenripping me off. But no, just
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because I've started yaking already, I'lljust say, first of all, it
was. It was really interesting becauseit kind of brings to light how you're
playing age in person is very differentto the playing age of your voice.
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Because I think one of the reasonsyou picked me for Mari is because you
said there was a youthful quality tomy voice, and I'd never thought of
it that way, and that hasvastly expanded my sort of cursting type ideas.
So thank you You've given me anotherlike ten years. Yeah, that
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was really interesting, but also itwas really nostalgic getting back to that that
mindset of like the high school supernaturalalmost like a less intense stranger things vibe.
So that's really cool and just goesto show how audio is such a
versatile format because you may be ableto play people who you may not necessarily
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be able to play on screen,despite the fact that I really don't look
a day over fifteen, right right, I guess for me, I kind
of like when I started doing this, was closer in age to Juliet than
I am now, and I thinkhaving like limited acting experience, it was
like a little difficult because, aslike Arden said, since it's voice acting
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and you're not like there physically,I almost kind of like tended to want
to do like higher pitched things withmy voice, but it's like, okay,
like she's fifteen, she's not five. But it was like fun because
she was just basically like a youngerbut like i'd say, definitely more spunky,
an outspoken version of myself, youknow, Like so I don't know,
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it was kind of like fun andlike easy at times because she's so
similar to myself, but then atthe same time different because like I said,
she's a lot more wild card,a little wild child than I ever
have been and probably ever will be. Yea Juliette makes some choices that are
like, yeah, let's do it, let's let's summon a demon, and
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I'm like, I wish I wasthat brave at like fourteen. Yeah,
they're they're definitely choices. But there'ssuch a gag though, because in a
way, in a way, they'reall kind of enabling each other, but
they're all kind of supporting each otheras well, and I love that.
Yeah, I'd love to hear ingeneral, like what ways do you guys
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tend to relate to your characters orways that you definitely don't. And also,
you know, is there any characteron the show that you would say
is more similar to you? I'dsay similar, I say kind of.
The most glaring one for me isthat she wants to be a journalist.
I am studying broadcast journalism at collegethe University of Oklahoma Boomer sooner, So
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that's kind of the most similar thing, I'd guess, And also like kind
of I guess my sister would probablyargue the annoying younger sibling thing, you
know, when she was like inhigh school and I was in middle school,
just wanted to be like, oh, you and your friends are so
cool. I want to hang outwith you guys, and her being like
or sixteen year eleven like go away, you know, so those little things.
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But like I said before, obviouslydifferent and that she's a lot more
like outspoken and kind of I don'tknow, she doesn't really have and I
mean this in like the best waypossible. She doesn't really have like a
filter. It seems like like justlike whatever's in her head, like she
kind of lets out and she doesn'tcare what other people really think or say
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to her. And sometimes, ofcourse that will get her into trouble when
it comes to like summoning demons andlike putting her friends lives in danger.
So you know, maybe she couldwork on that. But at the same
time, I think that's what makesher so fun as a character. And
it also makes sense because she isonly like fourteen fifteen years old, so
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I mean, like not many fourteenor fifteen year olds really have that kind
of you know, our brains aren'tfully developed to really be making those types
of decisions. As far as othercharacters go, I do really think that
I am the most similar to Juliet. The only I could kind of maybe
really say is Avra. I guessand a little. But I mean I
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do think that Juliet, like Isaid, is essentially me, just younger
and more out there. Yes,So just to just to kick that off,
I I completely am like mar Inthat I am very much a necromancer.
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I am accrypted. Yes, thetruth comes out on the record,
Yeah I knew it. Yeah Yeah. After this, I got a I
got a call with a chaos plane. Yeah totally so yes, in that
way with someone now. But forreal, um, I really relate to
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Maury's sense of mischief. I wouldsay is the word, because yeah,
they're a little bit chaotic, butit's been nine because I think underpinning all
that is um real love and respectand loyalty to their friends. And I
kind of really relate to that becausemaybe they would be judged as a kind
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of rebel rouser, as someone who'smaybe not got the best intentions, but
they always have and I feel likethat's been me at certain points of my
life, especially when I was alot more chaotic, but in a nice
way, in a nice way.I feel that also ma has no filter,
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and as I think you may havebeen able to discern throughout this episode,
I can relate to that it's importantto be self aware. What can
I say? And also there's apoint in which, like I can't even
remember what it was about, butthey were like, oh, well you
still will pack a gum or whatever, and they were like, yeah,
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I like anarchy. That's that's thevibe, you know what I mean?
Like I didn't steal any gum forthe record, but if there are any
other characters I can vibe with,yeah, yeah, I really feel Francy
and see too, I feel hasthat same sense of the surface is different
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to what's on the inside kind ofthing, because you would think that he's
somebody like maybe at times flippant orlike doesn't worry too much, but it's
the facade hides like a whole lotof care and concern and a lot of
worry. So yeah, I saythat too. Also just for you guys
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to know, I have been Ihope you're not hearing that, like discord
like mute and unmute sound constantly.They're cutting through the wall again, so
I have to just keep muting forthe whole wall. They haven't gone through
yet. We just see a chainsawcome through on this side where the like
whiteboard is just like before we continuereal quick. Sorry, I was going
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to take my breal. Would youguys be okay with being in it?
Yes? Yeah, that yeah,go for it. While Amy takes her
be real, We're gonna take aquick ad break in a similar but different
thing, which I guess could besaid about all things, but in a
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kind of similar rain. Um,who if you have one? Who is
your favorite character besides your own?Oh, this is a toughie, you
know, with a show like that. As you said before, it is
an ensemblecast and it kind of becomeslike a friends group that you drop in
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on, like especially as time passesover the years and you hear that that
theme song what is it Pink Nightin Ohio? And it's like, all
right, we're gonna see the teamnow. But this is a bit of
a cop out answer, I realized, So Amy over to you. While
I think of an actual answer,I would say it is hard. I
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think Officer Jenkins is just pretty likejust like comedic relief, and like,
you know, he's tried to belike sometimes like you know, I'm serious,
this is like law enforcement, butthen you know, goofy silly stuff
always ends up happening. So I'djust have to say Officer Jenkins definitely,
because I mean there definitely are momentswhere, like, you know, things
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are or try to be you know, serious. But then also the fact
that you can always kind of relyon him to be there for some sort
of you know, comedic relief Ithink is and also like one of the
like og kind of like Day Onecharacters too. He's a constant when everything's
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going crazy in Water's Edge. Youcan always count on Officer Jenkins. Sometimes
I forget he's a cup right.Yeah. Mikey plays him so fun too,
because like his Mikey's not an actoreither, and he's been on one
of these Q and I before listeners. Y'all should go listen to it if
you haven't, because it's absolutely hilarious. Him and Roger Chris. They were
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absolute chaos together. His whole thingabout Officer drinks and I'm like, you
know, how to play and he'slike hmm, tired and over this ship.
Yeah exactly, that's his whole vibe. Oh gosh, I need to
listen to that again because I doremember hearing this episode and like actually laughing
out loud, but like, yeah, Roger, I love Roger and Kenzie
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was such a great addition, likejust incredible depth to their character. Like
I think, oh, I thinkit was the first time that I like
loved and hated someone at the sametime on this show. Yes, Minnie
just was perfect. And of courseNessie oh NeSSI yeah, gotta gotta shout
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out Nessie. You guys have beenin a large amount of scenes at this
point. Were there any scenes inparticular that stood out to you when recording,
like for being either like something thatwas kind of difficult to record,
or like something that was really funor like weird and hilarious or whatever,
you know, like any any storiesfrom that that you'd like to share.
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I guess well, I mean obviouslylike recording over Memorial Day weekend, when
a lot of us were fortunately ableto be like actually there in person.
That was really cool. Of coursewe missed you arden able to like,
you know, see most of peoplein person, or even if it wasn't
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in person, like able to likezoom them in because most of the time
when you're recording, you're like byyourself with Vicky and VALVICKI does a wonderful
job at playing all the other charactersin the scene. It is nice to
get to actually like act with thoseother people that you hear yourself talking to
in the scenes, and that madeit really fun. But one thing I
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remember was I believe this was Ibelieve this was like in my senior year
of high school, like earlier beforeI graduated, because I remember being at
home in my room recording it,and I think it was like the end
for season three year season four,and I had this long, little kind
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of monologue that I went on andthere was one word that kept screwing me
up. I think it was thename of a book, and I couldn't
stop laughing. And we were like, we'll just go to another scene and
come back to that at the end. But I just couldn't stop thinking about
when I had messed up and itkind of screwing me up, and I
felt so bad because I was likeVicki's probably like, oh my God,
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just like please I get this itdone like I work with professional voice actors,
the love of God, that Iwas just I couldn't and finally I
think we got it. Probably mighthave been a little rough, and then
I think eventually I was able tocalm down. But I just remember not
being able to like keep it seriouswhen recording that. So that was pretty
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funny. I don't know why thatwhatever the word was threw me off.
I can't remember what it was thename of, like some book or something.
The book that seller wrote is throughthe Cracked Glass. Yeah, that
like screwed me up for some reason. I just couldn't. I couldn't get
it. It was so funny,though it was once, once we actually
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got the good one, it wasfunny, you know. I remember the
time being it might not have been. It was like, oh my god,
let's just get this done, likeshe needs this. But looking back,
it was pretty funny. I meanthere's always like everybody always has that,
like that one word in a randomscene where it's like, why can't
I say this? Yeah, ohgosh. So Stephen Fry has this anecdote
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he keeps breaking out about when hewas doing the audiobook for The Boy Wizards
of the Okay, well let's notgo into that, but but shut there
was this this sentence that he alwaysmentions is the most difficult thing he's done
in his entire career, and itwas something like Harry pocketed it and he
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just could not say it. Andhe keeps using it as a kind of
anecdote. But yes, in answerto your question, I just loved recording
the heist. Well, it wasn'ta heist, but the season four end
game let's break other out of likea freaky memory hospital to wipe her mind
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that moment, because well it waslive with everyone in the room, which
was really amazing and fun for mebecause I hadn't worked with everyone before at
the same time, and it lookedreally well on my end, I just
had to do my base, butit looked like it was really difficult to
coordinate that recording because it was like, what eight characters, Oh my gosh.
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Yeah, I really love to writemyself into extremely difficult scheduling situations.
I'm the writer, I don't haveto do this, and I'm like,
no, I need all ton ofthem there. Yeah, it was amazingly
fun and like I think it wasthe best way to do it though,
because the energy was so live andit was so there. It wasn't like
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we were all in separate hermetically sealedstudios not knowing who's saying wat and like
when I had to deliver the line, like I think it was room twenty
two, and it was all reallyurgent and everything's depending on me to save
room twenty two so that everyone canget the room number. It was actually
real in that moment. So yes, it's it's great when you're acting.
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Doesn't really need to be acting,you know, makes a job. But
I think this is such a minorthing, but I think a process.
I really amused me was like,not necessarily amused, but I really enjoyed
recording my very first lines in thefirst half of season three, because there
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wasn't much for the first kind ofappearance of Marie. It was something like
they were kicking a football around.It landed in front of Ava and the
crew and they were basically being handedthe football back. It was like two
lines, and you gave me thechoice of recording it remotely or jumping on
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a call with you, and Ijust wanted to meet you and like see
who I'm working with. So Iwas like, yeah, let's do that.
And I remember, oh, it'sso important to laugh for oneself.
But I remember going all like,oh, I'm a serious actor and being
all like, how would you likeme to deliver this line? And it
was something like thank you bye orsomething. Yeah, it was like it
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was only just like a couple oflines for some inside. On the flip
side of that, I have hadmany conversations with many like real professional actors
like yourself, where they've been like, oh, yeah, like how do
you want me to like take theselines? Or like how are you like?
My main response is usually like givingcontext about the scene, and then
they're like, how did you likethat? And I'm like that was great.
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I love that, you know,because like I went to school for
directing. I don't know what Ilearned there, but it wasn't a lot.
Let's be real, It's like,what what's the underlying pathos here?
What are we? What is thegiven circumstances of the character's entire lifespam?
And that reminds me of of ashow that's pretty big here, and I
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would really encourage you to watch itif it's available to you. It's called
Toast of London. It's on Netflixhere. It starts Matt Barry, who
you may know of What we Doin The Shadows, the TV show.
He plays Laslow craven Worth. It'sbasically an homage to the whole acting industry
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in specifically in London and theater especially, so one of the first scenes is
him in a recording studio, recordingaudio for a commercial and the line is
yes, and you literally hear himthere like with his extraordinary Matt Berry voice
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going yes, yes, and thenthe producers like, oh, can you
say that with a little bit more, you know, a little bit more
junis aqua and He's like yes,yes, yes, and it continues and
continues, and it's it's a wholememe. It's a whole meme. It's
like, do you hear me Clemfandango if you've ever heard that, that's
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where that's from. So that's whatI felt like in that moment. I
was just Matt Mary going yes,as if I'm like a soliloquy from Henry
the Fifth or whatever. Yeah,thank you for handling me that football.
I am so genuinely glad though thatwe did do that little those couple of
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lines on I don't remember from Discordor Zoom or whatever, but on an
actual video call like together, becausethat's when I was like, oh,
I need to have them back.Okay, we're writing. We're writing Maria,
thank you, a sonorous thank you. You know. The show is
called Cryptid Cape. It's about cryptids. What are your thoughts on cryptids,
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just in general, any thoughts.So cryptids, cryptures are the issue,
and so I love cryptis. Theuse of cryptis is such a great way
of telling the story, especially aboutthe ways that people are marginalized, bearing
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in mind that a lot of thecharacters and the curse on this show are
like marginalized along other intersections, andthe fact that being encrypted is something that
I think most of us can relateto when we are in environments where we
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are not represented by the majority.I think it's creates a really fun sense
of community in that, like,let's all vcrypted together. Does that make
sense? Because also it touches onthis thing that Guillermo del Toro does very
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well, which is kind of reclaimingthe monster and why do we relate to
monsters and what do monsters actually meanin our culture? And are they actually
something to fear or do we justfear that presence brings out in ourselves.
No, that was so eloquent.I honestly I can't remember where my headspace
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was when I first started writing this, but like, so I can't.
I can't be like, yes,this is what the author intended in the
beginning, but I realized after likeat least the first season, I was
like, Oh, I'm kind ofwriting cryptids as an allegory for many things,
but yeah, like as an allegoryfor generally like being a marginalized person
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in certain situations, it changes likeit parallels more to something like having a
disability in a space that is notaccessible, or or being queer in a
space that is majority like straight insists, and even like being in a different
like culture, or like like beinglike being immersed into a different culture where
you don't where you aren't familiar withwhat's going on, or being a person
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of color. You know, andthere's like different situations where like some of
those come out. But I waslike, oh, I kind of like,
I guess I just did it alittle bit subconsciously in the beginning.
I would love to give myself creditof being like, oh, yes,
the meaning of the story, butlike and it's it has become more of
a purposeful thing. But but alsocripses are cool, and that's cool if
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that's all you meant by it atfirst, you know what I mean.
Also, you use a lot oflike kind of folklore and mythology that's lesser
known in kind of the Western paradigmor whatever, like like Roger being a
tree giant. That's from Filipino folklaw, isn't it. Yeah, I
think it's called a capri. I'mprobably pronouncing that very wrong, but that's
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what it's known. Who else isthere? I mean we have some of
the classics like Werewolves and the JerseyDevil. Jersey Devil, Yeah, the
Jersey Devil. Because of the show, I realized that nobody except for the
people that grew up in New Jersey, now what the Jersey Devil is.
I knew what the Jersey Devil wasbecause I remember there was there was this
PlayStation game on the original PlayStation,likely like proper Old School, and it
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was this little I think it was. That's that's game developers answer to crash
bandicoots. Obviously it doesn't take off, but it was like the Jaersey Devil,
and it was like a really cuteplatform. So that's how I knew
what the Jersey Devil was. Thatsounds amazing and now I want to find
it and play it. It was. It was really difficult too, but
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like I was like a baby.So Amy, what are your opinions on
encryptids and that's a that'sn't anything question, So you can say whatever you want
about tell me the big Foot's real. I just think it's like cool to
like learn about a bunch of differentthems, even if it is like mythology
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or like you know, folklore kindof thing, and it's like maybe people
believe they're real. Maybe some peopledon't think they're real people. Maybe people
think it's kind of like, youknow, silly business whatever. But like
I just think it's cool to likelisten to all the different like backstories they
all have and then kind of seethose things like personified and like the way
that obviously you've used what's like beensaid about them on like tails and like
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stuff like that, like over timeto develop them, but also like taking
your own little spin and kind oflike creating like a certain way that you
think that they would like behave.So I think that's really cool. And
then also just like I feel likenow I just kind of like notice things
like I sent you a picture ofthis car that had a bumper sticker that
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was like will break for cryptids,and I was like, oh my god.
Now I start like noticing like otherpeople or other shows or like forms
of media that are kind of likecryptids and so just like, I don't
know, kind of cool just tosee, like you know, and then
also kind of like what you guyswere saying, like the way Ovrea comes
into this, you know, aslike a human and just kind of seeing
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how she like interacts with all ofthem and discovers it and is actually fortunately
very accept and loving of all ofthem when they feel like they need to
be hidden. I love the waythat um others pretty generically like a human
in the in the she as shesaid many times in season four and we'll
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say many times again in Susan five, she is the most normal of humans
that you could possibly be, andyet that somehow, even in like like
the cryptids themselves are kind of outsidersto like regular society, and now she
has even become kind of almost likean outsider to the society she has like
found herself in. And it's justeverybody's out of place all the time.
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But everybody loves you because it's myworld, damn it. And I can
make it how I want. I'mcalling, I'm calling, I'm calling Fakonava
being a human. I don't know, I don't know. I feel like
that that's that bridge has not quiteI feel like we're still in the middle
of that bridge. To play withthat metaphor, so I feel actually speaking
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of that change of subject, wellthat was where the other question was kind
of leading. Um, so seasonfive is going to be our last season,
and I have a lot of complicatedfeelings about that, mainly pushing those
aside and worrying about how I'm goingto finish season five. You know,
I have to write it, andI know how it's ending, but there's
some things that are still like questionmarks in that vein of me still not
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knowing all the answers. What wouldyou guys maybe either like to see in
the last season or what do youthink is going to happen in the last
season, any predictions any and alsojust thoughts about this being our last season
after I mean, you guys havebeen on since season two or three,
respectively. So showdown in the nuclearplants uranium, plutonium, aluminium, aluminium,
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cancel aluminium alum Oh no, oh, no, it's getting to be
Yes, that's what's gonna happen.Amy, I have no I don't know.
I just hope everyone like survives andit's okay. And happy and like,
you know, I don't know whatI like. I don't know.
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I just feel like there's like solike I know this sounds like a generic,
like cough out answer, but likegenuinely, there was like so much
that could like just spaced off theway, like you know, Season four
kind of ended, like I don'tknow, it really could like almost,
I guess this could be like agood promotion. Anything can happen, you
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know. As for how I feelabout it ending, it is kind of
sad because I mean, like itis, you know, like a fun
little thing. Like obviously it's notlike constant like all the time, but
like I do like enjoy when youknow, I get to like recording stuff
because it's just fun to be like, oh, I'm an actor for like
you know, an hour and ahalf or something, and then you know,
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doing those things like we did lastyear was like recording with everyone else.
It's just fun. And then whenI get to like listen to it
when it premiers and like how everythinglike all comes together is really fun.
So I'll definitely like miss it.But yeah, I just hope everyone survives
and is happy and healthy and everyone'sdreams coming true. Yeah, I'll really
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miss it too. It's been sowonderful getting to know you all and kind
of becoming a residence of Water's Edgeand just kind of getting attached to these
characters over the years, not justmy own character, but to everyone else's.
I would really love to see whatI think. Kendy has been left
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in a really interesting position at theend of season four, so I'd love
to know how her story pans thatobviously everyone's and what's going on with Va,
and like, just yeah, Ijust want to know that everyone will
be okay. And there's another reallyfunny thing that I'm wondering if I'll ever
(42:10):
reconcile in my own head. Sonot to kind of confuse anyone who's listening,
but I will admit this on therecord. So Sibyl being called Sibyl
and Lizzie being called Lizzie sometimes reallymesses me up because the connotation of a
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Sibyl is that of an oracle.So sometimes I'll hear someone refer to Sibyl
and they'll be like, oh,yes, Abra's friend the oracle, and
they'll be like, no, no, no, no, no, it's
her sister. Nothing to do withseeing the future. And then in my
own head, I'll be like,Okay, I just need to rewind that
scene and completely reor it, eventhough they sound completely different. I don't
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know. Maybe I'll get over thatby the time I'm done listening to Season
and five. That's just something Iinvented in my own head. I have
heard that from like one or twoother people, whether like your character,
you have a character that's an oracle, and you name someone else Sibyl,
and I was like, yes,shall leave me alone. Well, no,
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you're you're absolutely right, because likeit would be, it's actually cooler
that the person who's the oracle isn'tcalled Sibyl, you know what I mean,
Because then it's like that one whoshall not be named calling their well
wolf character wolf mcwafferson. You know, it's kind of re emphasizes the point
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that these are ordinary people who happento be cryptis and have names, and
they are not just a function ofwhat they do or what their power is.
And the person who's the oracle isn'tcalled oracle oracle, And it's like
the waton INFI isn't called like aquolor whatever. Can you jim? All
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right, Well, I guess thatis. That's kind of the end of
my questions list. I guess anylast little things to saying to the viewers
before we wrap it up viewers,I guess listeners that's the correct term.
Hello, listeners, listen up,be excellent to each other. It's a
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tough old world, and you neverknow who might be dealing with crypted powers
that they don't know about, likeAfra. I guess I would just say
thank you for listening and be preparedfor season five. It's gonna be great
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season five. Thank you everyone,Thank you listeners for hanging out with us.
And yeah, as Amy said,to listen to season five, we'll
get ready for season five. Iguess you can't listen to it yet,
huh, unless you're listening to thisin the future. Before season five comes
out, we are going to haveseveral other bonus content things coming at you.
Make sure you are subscribed to ourpodcast feed on whatever podcatcher of choice,
(45:07):
and follow us on social media.We're on Instagram, Twitter, and
Facebook. You can find us encryptedcape. We're still selling stickers if anybody
wants a sticker, lovely little stickerto put on your water bottle or your
notebook or whatever. You can findus at our coffee page. The Lake
is going to be in the bio. Yeah, and then get ready for
season five. We'll have a trailerdropping at the end of June. It
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will be premiering the first Friday ofJuly. Get High. Yes, We'll
see you next time by
Welcome to town. Hi listeners,this is Victoria here and welcome back to
Cryptic Cape. Today we have alittle bonus episode for you in preparation for
season five. Today we have twoof our lovely voice actors joining us,
hanging out, chit chatting and talkingabout their experience of being on the show.
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So I will allow them to introducethemselves. Arden, would you like
to go first? Sure? Hi, my name is Arden Fitzroy. I
play Mari and I don't know,I've loved being bought of this experience.
Hello. I am Amy A.Sabato, and I played Juliet and I
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get paid for this, so Ican say I'm a voice actor who exactly.
My next question was gonna be whodo you guys voice? But you
answered that? But would you liketo give us a little description? I
guess in your own words, whoyour characters are? So, also known
as Marie. It depends on thevibe of the day. Is a plane
walker, which is the show's terminologyfor a type of necromancer essentially, which
(01:15):
I think is super cool and alsoa kind of Nancy Drew type. I
think they're living in a world andeveryone else's cohabiting it. Marie is the
main character. Main character syndrome.How about Juliet. So I played Juliet
and she's like a little oh mygod, what's the word, like sprite,
(01:38):
like fairy. I think I callher a pixie. Pixie, that's
the word, thank you. Iwas like, what is it? Pixie?
And she's kind of like a littleaspiring journalist and she's almost kind of
like Ava's like annoying little sister,and that she kind of wants to do
the same work that she does,and she means well. And sometimes she
can be a little bit sassy,get in the way a little bit,
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but um, she's doing her best. She means well, and she wants
to have fun. I feel likeJuliet very much started off as the annoying
younger sister Vibe and is now justlike everybody's favorite. I mean, you
said it, not me. Itruns the show. I also adore the
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fact that, like for both ofyour characters, I originally didn't intend for
either of them to really be likemain characters in any sense, and now
I'm like, no, I loveArton and Amy too much that I need
to keep writing for them. Butyour characters have become more integrated into the
main storyline because I was just like, I need to keep them around too
good. Yeah. I remember whenI auditioned for this. I think there
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was a call out somewhere and itwas for it was for like a one
line or two liner. It wasEnglish parents, and I think in hindsight
it would have been like one ofthe new comer lockans a come across,
comes across in the grocery store andthe I think the audition mine was literally
something like I'm sorry, well,the Jeffer cakes. And I was like,
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yeah, I can do this.This falls within my remit and it's
all it's all snowballs from there.I was just looking for the jeff cakes,
you know what I mean exactly?That reminds me that line specifically.
I had a question for you later, Arden, but we can we can
talk about it now because it's agood transition. But you are from the
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UK. Are you originally from theUK? Yeah? Right, yeah,
yeah, And sadly, I meanwe're both living in America. It's a
little right, yeah. Yeah,it's not. Neither is great. It's
just not going great. It's notgoing great. But I just think it's
funny, Like there's some moments wherewe're in recording, and you're like,
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um, I don't know if ifI don't know if mar would say this,
because it's not really a thing likedid you want to talk about any
of that stuff of like the inconsistenciesbetween like it's usually a lot of slang
slang that Marie would be saying versusstuff that like I, as an American,
I'm like writing into the script.I just think it's always yes.
So that's actually really interesting and alittle bit of I think it involves a
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lot of examining the characterization because yes, some of the slang used maybe American,
but ma Is is a person whohas recently emigrated to the US,
so they may want to fit in, they may want to use this kind
of language, and let's not forgetbecause of the effects of American culture and
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globalization, like we say stuff likethat too over here. So I think
there was one case where there wasa reference made to Cello being Hella smart,
and you asked me like, wouldMaria say that? And I was
like, well, we can whinenot. I think they would use that
because we do sometimes use that hereand yet maybe it sounds silly in our
(05:04):
little voices, but I'm also reallyamused by those little moments that I kind
of ask you, I kind oftake you aside before we record and ask
you, look, should I sayoregano or oregano here? Because clearly oregano
is the right way to say it, but I take I totally take the
(05:28):
lead from my director, you knowwhat I mean. Yeah, so that's
a lot of fun. Yeah,I had forgotten the like, yeah,
there's like slight pronunciation stuff too,and like we haven't said it in the
show, and I'm not going towrite it in because aluminum and aluminium is
a fight, that's a that's anarticle. Gloves are off, gloves are
off. I mean, I don'tknow, it might become relevant if the
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last scene of season five is HighCouncil versus the gang in the in the
I don't know, plutonium factory orlike I don't know, something along those
lines, the aluminium what whatever.But but yeah, I think that is
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just such It's such a small buta rewarding part of the process for me
because it just makes you think abouthow your character would be like in a
different culture to what they're accustomed to, and it's like a really rewarding side
(06:36):
of Marie to kind of explore becauseit doesn't it's not in the text so
much with how they kind of becausethey don't talk about being discombobulated or whatever
in a new environment. But it'ssomething that's very much fair, and I
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think it's in language as well,So that's really interesting to me. This
has been a very waffling response,but this was a thought I have had.
No. I love it. Ilove hearing like one of my favorite
things as a writer on a showlike this where like we get to,
i don't know, like spend anot insignificant time with like like a good
(07:20):
amount of characters. I feel like, you know, offers the main character,
but we have kind of an ensemblecast almost, and like since a
lot of them keep coming back,like we get to spend a lot of
time with them and everything, andlike getting to see you guys kind of
make your characters your own is veryfun and like because like when I'm writing,
I kind of like I'm just thekind of person where when I'm writing
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or when i'm reading, I kindof like hear it in my head and
stuff like that, and I likeI'll hear it kind of in your guys's
voices, and then you go andwe're recording and you take it a totally
different way that I didn't even thinkabout, and I'm like, oh my
god, I love that even more. That's awesome, you know, and
stuff like that with little characters visionsof like oh yeah, like mar would
have like held onto these slang terms, but maybe for these ones, they're
(08:05):
like kind of trying to be moreAmerican and cool and like because they're living
in American now. You know,it's very fun. I like it speaking
of acting choices and acting and youknow, voice and all the all the
stuff that we do here. Canyou guys tell me a little bit about
any other acting or voice acting stuffthat you do, experiences that you've had.
(08:26):
I know, I think I thinkyou guys are coming from significantly different
places as far as like how muchyou've acted before, and I think that's
fun and interesting. Most of myacting experience actually came from acting in productions
that you created when you were younger. For anyone who does not know,
I am Vicky's younger cousin. Andactually how I originally started doing the show
(08:50):
was you kind of had like everyonein our family had like a little like
cameo and then you're like, yourrole might be just like a little bit
bigger. Like you said earlier,you weren't planning on it being this big.
And then you were like, hey, do you want to keep doing
more seasons? And I was like, oh my god, that's kind of
really scary. I don't think I'mthat good, but like, sure,
(09:11):
whatever, if you want me to, I will. There is a I
think it's still on my YouTube channel. Back if you go back a little
while, there's a video of Amyand three of her friends in a short
film called When Life Gives You Lemonswhere they make a lemonade stand. Her
and her friend have a lemonade standand there's two competing lemonade stand girls.
(09:31):
And it's very fun. It's verythat's so sweet. I need to watch
this. It was very fun.I still show it to my friends whenever,
Like I'm talking to my friends,I'm like, did you guys know
that you're best friends with like aviral YouTube sensation? Yeah? So,
very limited acting experience, but Ithink that the notes you've given me,
(09:54):
I've gotten pretty all right. Howabout you, Arden, I know you're
you're a thespian. Ah, Yes, this is when you get me on
and I kind of deliver that's kindof John Gielgood's on the podcast sort of.
Yes, when I was in theNational at the time of Olivier in
the nineteen sixties. Yes, it'sit's true. Acting is what I do
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for a given definition of what thatmeans. I've done voice acting mostly commercially,
which means that if you work fora certain corporation that a lot of
your e learning will be delivered bywhy is Marie suddenly telling me how not
(10:39):
to be a dickhead at work topeople who are not like me? So
if you work at any of thosecorporations, which I don't think I should
name here, so I won't,but yes, you might hear the voice
of Marie. Also in terms ofvoice acting, I actually produced a podcast
and this is going to be likea sub plug, just really subtle.
(11:01):
I sweat wherever you get your podcasts. I produced a podcast for an art
organization called the Rise Collective season calledQueer Joy on their Amplify podcast, and
it was actually the culmination of asix month development and mentorship program for young
trans and non binary people wanting toget into audio. So that exists as
(11:24):
well, and it's it's the proudestI've been because the work that these people
have created is just incredible. AndI would encourage you to listen to it
because it's talking about experiences of whatit's like to be trans or non binary
in the UK spoiler alert. It'sall great, but it's also sharing joy
(11:45):
and celebrating each other's artistic achievements andplatforming people who may have not had a
voice before. But going back toyour original question, Yeah, I'm an
actor. I trained in rose BrufordCollege. Most of the stuff I've done
has been stage, so really harkeningback to that, this is why I
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turned into John Gielgud again. Yes, yes, I played Macucio. Yes
I've played this. Yeah, butyeah, going back to that kind of
classical acting experience and maybe coming toscreens and near you soon who knows,
who knows kind of there you go, and uh yeah, I will definitely
(12:28):
link that podcast in the episode descriptionbecause I think everybody should go listen to
it. So we've talked a littlebit about your characters. How has it
been playing these characters? And Ithink there's there's a uniqueness to your guys's
characters compared to a lot of therest of the cast, where both of
you guys are older than the charactersyou're playing. They're both like, oh
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gosh, I can't remember the agesbut their teens, you know. As
someone who is just playing basically myselfbecause Alva's just me, I imagine it,
it's a bit of a different experienceplaying a younger person. So I'm
not sure what you mean, mydear, I'm not a day over fifteen
or else that skincare company has beenripping me off. But no, just
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because I've started yaking already, I'lljust say, first of all, it
was. It was really interesting becauseit kind of brings to light how you're
playing age in person is very differentto the playing age of your voice.
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Because I think one of the reasonsyou picked me for Mari is because you
said there was a youthful quality tomy voice, and I'd never thought of
it that way, and that hasvastly expanded my sort of cursting type ideas.
So thank you You've given me anotherlike ten years. Yeah, that
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was really interesting, but also itwas really nostalgic getting back to that that
mindset of like the high school supernaturalalmost like a less intense stranger things vibe.
So that's really cool and just goesto show how audio is such a
versatile format because you may be ableto play people who you may not necessarily
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be able to play on screen,despite the fact that I really don't look
a day over fifteen, right right, I guess for me, I kind
of like when I started doing this, was closer in age to Juliet than
I am now, and I thinkhaving like limited acting experience, it was
like a little difficult because, aslike Arden said, since it's voice acting
(14:46):
and you're not like there physically,I almost kind of like tended to want
to do like higher pitched things withmy voice, but it's like, okay,
like she's fifteen, she's not five. But it was like fun because
she was just basically like a youngerbut like i'd say, definitely more spunky,
an outspoken version of myself, youknow, Like so I don't know,
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it was kind of like fun andlike easy at times because she's so
similar to myself, but then atthe same time different because like I said,
she's a lot more wild card,a little wild child than I ever
have been and probably ever will be. Yea Juliette makes some choices that are
like, yeah, let's do it, let's let's summon a demon, and
(15:31):
I'm like, I wish I wasthat brave at like fourteen. Yeah,
they're they're definitely choices. But there'ssuch a gag though, because in a
way, in a way, they'reall kind of enabling each other, but
they're all kind of supporting each otheras well, and I love that.
Yeah, I'd love to hear ingeneral, like what ways do you guys
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tend to relate to your characters orways that you definitely don't. And also,
you know, is there any characteron the show that you would say
is more similar to you? I'dsay similar, I say kind of.
The most glaring one for me isthat she wants to be a journalist.
I am studying broadcast journalism at collegethe University of Oklahoma Boomer sooner, So
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that's kind of the most similar thing, I'd guess, And also like kind
of I guess my sister would probablyargue the annoying younger sibling thing, you
know, when she was like inhigh school and I was in middle school,
just wanted to be like, oh, you and your friends are so
cool. I want to hang outwith you guys, and her being like
or sixteen year eleven like go away, you know, so those little things.
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But like I said before, obviouslydifferent and that she's a lot more
like outspoken and kind of I don'tknow, she doesn't really have and I
mean this in like the best waypossible. She doesn't really have like a
filter. It seems like like justlike whatever's in her head, like she
kind of lets out and she doesn'tcare what other people really think or say
(17:04):
to her. And sometimes, ofcourse that will get her into trouble when
it comes to like summoning demons andlike putting her friends lives in danger.
So you know, maybe she couldwork on that. But at the same
time, I think that's what makesher so fun as a character. And
it also makes sense because she isonly like fourteen fifteen years old, so
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I mean, like not many fourteenor fifteen year olds really have that kind
of you know, our brains aren'tfully developed to really be making those types
of decisions. As far as othercharacters go, I do really think that
I am the most similar to Juliet. The only I could kind of maybe
really say is Avra. I guessand a little. But I mean I
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do think that Juliet, like Isaid, is essentially me, just younger
and more out there. Yes,So just to just to kick that off,
I I completely am like mar Inthat I am very much a necromancer.
(18:11):
I am accrypted. Yes, thetruth comes out on the record,
Yeah I knew it. Yeah Yeah. After this, I got a I
got a call with a chaos plane. Yeah totally so yes, in that
way with someone now. But forreal, um, I really relate to
(18:32):
Maury's sense of mischief. I wouldsay is the word, because yeah,
they're a little bit chaotic, butit's been nine because I think underpinning all
that is um real love and respectand loyalty to their friends. And I
kind of really relate to that becausemaybe they would be judged as a kind
(18:55):
of rebel rouser, as someone who'smaybe not got the best intentions, but
they always have and I feel likethat's been me at certain points of my
life, especially when I was alot more chaotic, but in a nice
way, in a nice way.I feel that also ma has no filter,
(19:19):
and as I think you may havebeen able to discern throughout this episode,
I can relate to that it's importantto be self aware. What can
I say? And also there's apoint in which, like I can't even
remember what it was about, butthey were like, oh, well you
still will pack a gum or whatever, and they were like, yeah,
(19:41):
I like anarchy. That's that's thevibe, you know what I mean?
Like I didn't steal any gum forthe record, but if there are any
other characters I can vibe with,yeah, yeah, I really feel Francy
and see too, I feel hasthat same sense of the surface is different
(20:07):
to what's on the inside kind ofthing, because you would think that he's
somebody like maybe at times flippant orlike doesn't worry too much, but it's
the facade hides like a whole lotof care and concern and a lot of
worry. So yeah, I saythat too. Also just for you guys
(20:32):
to know, I have been Ihope you're not hearing that, like discord
like mute and unmute sound constantly.They're cutting through the wall again, so
I have to just keep muting forthe whole wall. They haven't gone through
yet. We just see a chainsawcome through on this side where the like
whiteboard is just like before we continuereal quick. Sorry, I was going
(20:55):
to take my breal. Would youguys be okay with being in it?
Yes? Yeah, that yeah,go for it. While Amy takes her
be real, We're gonna take aquick ad break in a similar but different
thing, which I guess could besaid about all things, but in a
(21:15):
kind of similar rain. Um,who if you have one? Who is
your favorite character besides your own?Oh, this is a toughie, you
know, with a show like that. As you said before, it is
an ensemblecast and it kind of becomeslike a friends group that you drop in
(21:36):
on, like especially as time passesover the years and you hear that that
theme song what is it Pink Nightin Ohio? And it's like, all
right, we're gonna see the teamnow. But this is a bit of
a cop out answer, I realized, So Amy over to you. While
I think of an actual answer,I would say it is hard. I
(21:59):
think Officer Jenkins is just pretty likejust like comedic relief, and like,
you know, he's tried to belike sometimes like you know, I'm serious,
this is like law enforcement, butthen you know, goofy silly stuff
always ends up happening. So I'djust have to say Officer Jenkins definitely,
because I mean there definitely are momentswhere, like, you know, things
(22:22):
are or try to be you know, serious. But then also the fact
that you can always kind of relyon him to be there for some sort
of you know, comedic relief Ithink is and also like one of the
like og kind of like Day Onecharacters too. He's a constant when everything's
(22:42):
going crazy in Water's Edge. Youcan always count on Officer Jenkins. Sometimes
I forget he's a cup right.Yeah. Mikey plays him so fun too,
because like his Mikey's not an actoreither, and he's been on one
of these Q and I before listeners. Y'all should go listen to it if
you haven't, because it's absolutely hilarious. Him and Roger Chris. They were
(23:07):
absolute chaos together. His whole thingabout Officer drinks and I'm like, you
know, how to play and he'slike hmm, tired and over this ship.
Yeah exactly, that's his whole vibe. Oh gosh, I need to
listen to that again because I doremember hearing this episode and like actually laughing
out loud, but like, yeah, Roger, I love Roger and Kenzie
(23:29):
was such a great addition, likejust incredible depth to their character. Like
I think, oh, I thinkit was the first time that I like
loved and hated someone at the sametime on this show. Yes, Minnie
just was perfect. And of courseNessie oh NeSSI yeah, gotta gotta shout
(23:51):
out Nessie. You guys have beenin a large amount of scenes at this
point. Were there any scenes inparticular that stood out to you when recording,
like for being either like something thatwas kind of difficult to record,
or like something that was really funor like weird and hilarious or whatever,
you know, like any any storiesfrom that that you'd like to share.
(24:12):
I guess well, I mean obviouslylike recording over Memorial Day weekend, when
a lot of us were fortunately ableto be like actually there in person.
That was really cool. Of coursewe missed you arden able to like,
you know, see most of peoplein person, or even if it wasn't
(24:33):
in person, like able to likezoom them in because most of the time
when you're recording, you're like byyourself with Vicky and VALVICKI does a wonderful
job at playing all the other charactersin the scene. It is nice to
get to actually like act with thoseother people that you hear yourself talking to
in the scenes, and that madeit really fun. But one thing I
(24:56):
remember was I believe this was Ibelieve this was like in my senior year
of high school, like earlier beforeI graduated, because I remember being at
home in my room recording it,and I think it was like the end
for season three year season four,and I had this long, little kind
(25:17):
of monologue that I went on andthere was one word that kept screwing me
up. I think it was thename of a book, and I couldn't
stop laughing. And we were like, we'll just go to another scene and
come back to that at the end. But I just couldn't stop thinking about
when I had messed up and itkind of screwing me up, and I
felt so bad because I was likeVicki's probably like, oh my God,
(25:41):
just like please I get this itdone like I work with professional voice actors,
the love of God, that Iwas just I couldn't and finally I
think we got it. Probably mighthave been a little rough, and then
I think eventually I was able tocalm down. But I just remember not
being able to like keep it seriouswhen recording that. So that was pretty
(26:04):
funny. I don't know why thatwhatever the word was threw me off.
I can't remember what it was thename of, like some book or something.
The book that seller wrote is throughthe Cracked Glass. Yeah, that
like screwed me up for some reason. I just couldn't. I couldn't get
it. It was so funny,though it was once, once we actually
(26:25):
got the good one, it wasfunny, you know. I remember the
time being it might not have been. It was like, oh my god,
let's just get this done, likeshe needs this. But looking back,
it was pretty funny. I meanthere's always like everybody always has that,
like that one word in a randomscene where it's like, why can't
I say this? Yeah, ohgosh. So Stephen Fry has this anecdote
(26:45):
he keeps breaking out about when hewas doing the audiobook for The Boy Wizards
of the Okay, well let's notgo into that, but but shut there
was this this sentence that he alwaysmentions is the most difficult thing he's done
in his entire career, and itwas something like Harry pocketed it and he
(27:07):
just could not say it. Andhe keeps using it as a kind of
anecdote. But yes, in answerto your question, I just loved recording
the heist. Well, it wasn'ta heist, but the season four end
game let's break other out of likea freaky memory hospital to wipe her mind
(27:34):
that moment, because well it waslive with everyone in the room, which
was really amazing and fun for mebecause I hadn't worked with everyone before at
the same time, and it lookedreally well on my end, I just
had to do my base, butit looked like it was really difficult to
coordinate that recording because it was like, what eight characters, Oh my gosh.
(27:59):
Yeah, I really love to writemyself into extremely difficult scheduling situations.
I'm the writer, I don't haveto do this, and I'm like,
no, I need all ton ofthem there. Yeah, it was amazingly
fun and like I think it wasthe best way to do it though,
because the energy was so live andit was so there. It wasn't like
(28:21):
we were all in separate hermetically sealedstudios not knowing who's saying wat and like
when I had to deliver the line, like I think it was room twenty
two, and it was all reallyurgent and everything's depending on me to save
room twenty two so that everyone canget the room number. It was actually
real in that moment. So yes, it's it's great when you're acting.
(28:47):
Doesn't really need to be acting,you know, makes a job. But
I think this is such a minorthing, but I think a process.
I really amused me was like,not necessarily amused, but I really enjoyed
recording my very first lines in thefirst half of season three, because there
(29:12):
wasn't much for the first kind ofappearance of Marie. It was something like
they were kicking a football around.It landed in front of Ava and the
crew and they were basically being handedthe football back. It was like two
lines, and you gave me thechoice of recording it remotely or jumping on
(29:32):
a call with you, and Ijust wanted to meet you and like see
who I'm working with. So Iwas like, yeah, let's do that.
And I remember, oh, it'sso important to laugh for oneself.
But I remember going all like,oh, I'm a serious actor and being
all like, how would you likeme to deliver this line? And it
was something like thank you bye orsomething. Yeah, it was like it
(29:56):
was only just like a couple oflines for some inside. On the flip
side of that, I have hadmany conversations with many like real professional actors
like yourself, where they've been like, oh, yeah, like how do
you want me to like take theselines? Or like how are you like?
My main response is usually like givingcontext about the scene, and then
they're like, how did you likethat? And I'm like that was great.
(30:18):
I love that, you know,because like I went to school for
directing. I don't know what Ilearned there, but it wasn't a lot.
Let's be real, It's like,what what's the underlying pathos here?
What are we? What is thegiven circumstances of the character's entire lifespam?
And that reminds me of of ashow that's pretty big here, and I
(30:41):
would really encourage you to watch itif it's available to you. It's called
Toast of London. It's on Netflixhere. It starts Matt Barry, who
you may know of What we Doin The Shadows, the TV show.
He plays Laslow craven Worth. It'sbasically an homage to the whole acting industry
(31:02):
in specifically in London and theater especially, so one of the first scenes is
him in a recording studio, recordingaudio for a commercial and the line is
yes, and you literally hear himthere like with his extraordinary Matt Berry voice
(31:26):
going yes, yes, and thenthe producers like, oh, can you
say that with a little bit more, you know, a little bit more
junis aqua and He's like yes,yes, yes, and it continues and
continues, and it's it's a wholememe. It's a whole meme. It's
like, do you hear me Clemfandango if you've ever heard that, that's
(31:49):
where that's from. So that's whatI felt like in that moment. I
was just Matt Mary going yes,as if I'm like a soliloquy from Henry
the Fifth or whatever. Yeah,thank you for handling me that football.
I am so genuinely glad though thatwe did do that little those couple of
(32:10):
lines on I don't remember from Discordor Zoom or whatever, but on an
actual video call like together, becausethat's when I was like, oh,
I need to have them back.Okay, we're writing. We're writing Maria,
thank you, a sonorous thank you. You know. The show is
called Cryptid Cape. It's about cryptids. What are your thoughts on cryptids,
(32:36):
just in general, any thoughts.So cryptids, cryptures are the issue,
and so I love cryptis. Theuse of cryptis is such a great way
of telling the story, especially aboutthe ways that people are marginalized, bearing
(33:00):
in mind that a lot of thecharacters and the curse on this show are
like marginalized along other intersections, andthe fact that being encrypted is something that
I think most of us can relateto when we are in environments where we
(33:22):
are not represented by the majority.I think it's creates a really fun sense
of community in that, like,let's all vcrypted together. Does that make
sense? Because also it touches onthis thing that Guillermo del Toro does very
(33:44):
well, which is kind of reclaimingthe monster and why do we relate to
monsters and what do monsters actually meanin our culture? And are they actually
something to fear or do we justfear that presence brings out in ourselves.
No, that was so eloquent.I honestly I can't remember where my headspace
(34:07):
was when I first started writing this, but like, so I can't.
I can't be like, yes,this is what the author intended in the
beginning, but I realized after likeat least the first season, I was
like, Oh, I'm kind ofwriting cryptids as an allegory for many things,
but yeah, like as an allegoryfor generally like being a marginalized person
(34:27):
in certain situations, it changes likeit parallels more to something like having a
disability in a space that is notaccessible, or or being queer in a
space that is majority like straight insists, and even like being in a different
like culture, or like like beinglike being immersed into a different culture where
you don't where you aren't familiar withwhat's going on, or being a person
(34:50):
of color. You know, andthere's like different situations where like some of
those come out. But I waslike, oh, I kind of like,
I guess I just did it alittle bit subconsciously in the beginning.
I would love to give myself creditof being like, oh, yes,
the meaning of the story, butlike and it's it has become more of
a purposeful thing. But but alsocripses are cool, and that's cool if
(35:14):
that's all you meant by it atfirst, you know what I mean.
Also, you use a lot oflike kind of folklore and mythology that's lesser
known in kind of the Western paradigmor whatever, like like Roger being a
tree giant. That's from Filipino folklaw, isn't it. Yeah, I
think it's called a capri. I'mprobably pronouncing that very wrong, but that's
(35:35):
what it's known. Who else isthere? I mean we have some of
the classics like Werewolves and the JerseyDevil. Jersey Devil, Yeah, the
Jersey Devil. Because of the show, I realized that nobody except for the
people that grew up in New Jersey, now what the Jersey Devil is.
I knew what the Jersey Devil wasbecause I remember there was there was this
PlayStation game on the original PlayStation,likely like proper Old School, and it
(36:00):
was this little I think it was. That's that's game developers answer to crash
bandicoots. Obviously it doesn't take off, but it was like the Jaersey Devil,
and it was like a really cuteplatform. So that's how I knew
what the Jersey Devil was. Thatsounds amazing and now I want to find
it and play it. It was. It was really difficult too, but
(36:22):
like I was like a baby.So Amy, what are your opinions on
encryptids and that's a that'sn't anything question, So you can say whatever you want
about tell me the big Foot's real. I just think it's like cool to
like learn about a bunch of differentthems, even if it is like mythology
(36:43):
or like you know, folklore kindof thing, and it's like maybe people
believe they're real. Maybe some peopledon't think they're real people. Maybe people
think it's kind of like, youknow, silly business whatever. But like
I just think it's cool to likelisten to all the different like backstories they
all have and then kind of seethose things like personified and like the way
that obviously you've used what's like beensaid about them on like tails and like
(37:07):
stuff like that, like over timeto develop them, but also like taking
your own little spin and kind oflike creating like a certain way that you
think that they would like behave.So I think that's really cool. And
then also just like I feel likenow I just kind of like notice things
like I sent you a picture ofthis car that had a bumper sticker that
(37:28):
was like will break for cryptids,and I was like, oh my god.
Now I start like noticing like otherpeople or other shows or like forms
of media that are kind of likecryptids and so just like, I don't
know, kind of cool just tosee, like you know, and then
also kind of like what you guyswere saying, like the way Ovrea comes
into this, you know, aslike a human and just kind of seeing
(37:52):
how she like interacts with all ofthem and discovers it and is actually fortunately
very accept and loving of all ofthem when they feel like they need to
be hidden. I love the waythat um others pretty generically like a human
in the in the she as shesaid many times in season four and we'll
(38:15):
say many times again in Susan five, she is the most normal of humans
that you could possibly be, andyet that somehow, even in like like
the cryptids themselves are kind of outsidersto like regular society, and now she
has even become kind of almost likean outsider to the society she has like
found herself in. And it's justeverybody's out of place all the time.
(38:36):
But everybody loves you because it's myworld, damn it. And I can
make it how I want. I'mcalling, I'm calling, I'm calling Fakonava
being a human. I don't know, I don't know. I feel like
that that's that bridge has not quiteI feel like we're still in the middle
of that bridge. To play withthat metaphor, so I feel actually speaking
(39:00):
of that change of subject, wellthat was where the other question was kind
of leading. Um, so seasonfive is going to be our last season,
and I have a lot of complicatedfeelings about that, mainly pushing those
aside and worrying about how I'm goingto finish season five. You know,
I have to write it, andI know how it's ending, but there's
some things that are still like questionmarks in that vein of me still not
(39:23):
knowing all the answers. What wouldyou guys maybe either like to see in
the last season or what do youthink is going to happen in the last
season, any predictions any and alsojust thoughts about this being our last season
after I mean, you guys havebeen on since season two or three,
respectively. So showdown in the nuclearplants uranium, plutonium, aluminium, aluminium,
(39:50):
cancel aluminium alum Oh no, oh, no, it's getting to be
Yes, that's what's gonna happen.Amy, I have no I don't know.
I just hope everyone like survives andit's okay. And happy and like,
you know, I don't know whatI like. I don't know.
(40:15):
I just feel like there's like solike I know this sounds like a generic,
like cough out answer, but likegenuinely, there was like so much
that could like just spaced off theway, like you know, Season four
kind of ended, like I don'tknow, it really could like almost,
I guess this could be like agood promotion. Anything can happen, you
(40:37):
know. As for how I feelabout it ending, it is kind of
sad because I mean, like itis, you know, like a fun
little thing. Like obviously it's notlike constant like all the time, but
like I do like enjoy when youknow, I get to like recording stuff
because it's just fun to be like, oh, I'm an actor for like
you know, an hour and ahalf or something, and then you know,
(41:00):
doing those things like we did lastyear was like recording with everyone else.
It's just fun. And then whenI get to like listen to it
when it premiers and like how everythinglike all comes together is really fun.
So I'll definitely like miss it.But yeah, I just hope everyone survives
and is happy and healthy and everyone'sdreams coming true. Yeah, I'll really
(41:21):
miss it too. It's been sowonderful getting to know you all and kind
of becoming a residence of Water's Edgeand just kind of getting attached to these
characters over the years, not justmy own character, but to everyone else's.
I would really love to see whatI think. Kendy has been left
(41:45):
in a really interesting position at theend of season four, so I'd love
to know how her story pans thatobviously everyone's and what's going on with Va,
and like, just yeah, Ijust want to know that everyone will
be okay. And there's another reallyfunny thing that I'm wondering if I'll ever
(42:10):
reconcile in my own head. Sonot to kind of confuse anyone who's listening,
but I will admit this on therecord. So Sibyl being called Sibyl
and Lizzie being called Lizzie sometimes reallymesses me up because the connotation of a
(42:32):
Sibyl is that of an oracle.So sometimes I'll hear someone refer to Sibyl
and they'll be like, oh,yes, Abra's friend the oracle, and
they'll be like, no, no, no, no, no, it's
her sister. Nothing to do withseeing the future. And then in my
own head, I'll be like,Okay, I just need to rewind that
scene and completely reor it, eventhough they sound completely different. I don't
(42:53):
know. Maybe I'll get over thatby the time I'm done listening to Season
and five. That's just something Iinvented in my own head. I have
heard that from like one or twoother people, whether like your character,
you have a character that's an oracle, and you name someone else Sibyl,
and I was like, yes,shall leave me alone. Well, no,
(43:16):
you're you're absolutely right, because likeit would be, it's actually cooler
that the person who's the oracle isn'tcalled Sibyl, you know what I mean,
Because then it's like that one whoshall not be named calling their well
wolf character wolf mcwafferson. You know, it's kind of re emphasizes the point
(43:37):
that these are ordinary people who happento be cryptis and have names, and
they are not just a function ofwhat they do or what their power is.
And the person who's the oracle isn'tcalled oracle oracle, And it's like
the waton INFI isn't called like aquolor whatever. Can you jim? All
(44:00):
right, Well, I guess thatis. That's kind of the end of
my questions list. I guess anylast little things to saying to the viewers
before we wrap it up viewers,I guess listeners that's the correct term.
Hello, listeners, listen up,be excellent to each other. It's a
(44:21):
tough old world, and you neverknow who might be dealing with crypted powers
that they don't know about, likeAfra. I guess I would just say
thank you for listening and be preparedfor season five. It's gonna be great
(44:42):
season five. Thank you everyone,Thank you listeners for hanging out with us.
And yeah, as Amy said,to listen to season five, we'll
get ready for season five. Iguess you can't listen to it yet,
huh, unless you're listening to thisin the future. Before season five comes
out, we are going to haveseveral other bonus content things coming at you.
Make sure you are subscribed to ourpodcast feed on whatever podcatcher of choice,
(45:07):
and follow us on social media.We're on Instagram, Twitter, and
Facebook. You can find us encryptedcape. We're still selling stickers if anybody
wants a sticker, lovely little stickerto put on your water bottle or your
notebook or whatever. You can findus at our coffee page. The Lake
is going to be in the bio. Yeah, and then get ready for
season five. We'll have a trailerdropping at the end of June. It
(45:30):
will be premiering the first Friday ofJuly. Get High. Yes, We'll
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