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The testimony, the testimony, the testimony with Paula Fria, the Diva.
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For Christ day out Wattle Shetuning every Tuesday and not
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The time you are listening to the testimony with Hosts
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For a time such as this.
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Hey, every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern.
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Now now, now, now, praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.
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God, Bless you, God, bless you, and I am the
Diva for Christ. Yes, let us do what we do
every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time, and we're
not gonna change it up on today we go to
the Throne before we do anything in prayer, Father God,
I just thank you just for being all that you've
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been to me in this platform. Lord, just use me mighty,
allow the listeners to get out of this program what
they need, what you know that they need. Father God,
bless the listeners on today that they will be filled
and uplifted and in truly inspired by the guests that
we call on today. Father God, I just thank you
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for using me another Tuesday just to bring what you
need your people to get on today. Father God, I
just asked that you would just continue to allow me
to open my eyes so that I can always continue
to have an opportunity to bless your people and be
a blessing to you and uplist your kingdom.
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Father God.
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We ask all this in the precious name above all names,
Jesus Christ. H Amen, Amen, Amen, Thank you, Lord, Thank
you just for another day who we are blessed and
highly favorite by lifting up another show onto the Lord
with his people, with his wonderful wonderful listeners, with his wonderful,
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wonderful guests, and today would be no different. We bring
to you on this platform called the Testimony with your
host Paula Brionny. Yes, Yes, tonight we bring to you
just a wonderful, wonderful man woman of God, apostle and prophetess.
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Uh just authors.
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They're both authors, y'are. God is just bringing big, big
on tonight and we bring these wonderful people that are
from a wonderful church called Dominion Church of God's Grace. Yes,
we bring Apostle LeVar and Prophetess Jeanette.
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Williams, and they are on the line.
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Are they on the line? Let me ask if you're
in the house yard.
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Yes, yes, God bless you.
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Praise the Lord, Praise the Lord. I am still bubbling
over just from our earlier conversation. I'm telling you, y'all
are amazing. We almost didn't have much to talking about
right now. You know, God is just no good He
uses y'all mighty. I'm telling you we need about five
hours with your lovely, lovely couple. Wonderful women are man
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and woman of God. God bless you, God bless you.
But I have one question to ask you. How did
it begin for you both? I have the two the
duo on the line, So we just go to allow
the apostle will start and then we'll go right into propheties.
How did it begin for you guys in ministry? What
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made led you to believe that this was something that
God had called you to or that you felt led
to do? Was there anything that the average listener would
be listening to to see if really is this a calling?
How did it become a calling that kind of questions.
But that's why I asked the questions, how did it?
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Again?
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Well, the royal priests runs throughout my whole family, throughout
slavery time and throughout American history also, And I thank
God for my family m D. But whether they was
in it or not, this is what I would be
doing because when you know who you are, you just
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know who you are. And we thank God and being
because when God is shifting you or have prepared you
from the beginning of time to do his will, nothing
can't stop that, although the devil come up against you
to try to stop you and all sorts of ways.
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And so we thank God for the favor and the
blessings and the miracles of God on how God set
that up. And I thank God for m being going forward,
and I thank God for my grandfather, my grandmother, my mother,
for my family, my uncle, just for the family at large,
because Jesus Christ reigns forever more throughout the whole family.
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But on top of that everything, just like I said,
a lot of people would ask me, did my family
force me to do this? No, they did not. They
did not. They did not they forced the young people
in our family to do this. No, they did not.
This is a God thing. And so when you have passion,
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you have the belief system and you build your relationship
with God and you know what God is saying and
how God is moving, and God will always give you
that and awareness to know that it's Him. You have
to flow with it, and you're gonna walk with it,
and you have to stand in it, and you gotta
live with it because no problem, there is no power
greating in Jesus Christ's power. There's no power great in
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Jesus Christ's power. And the Bible says that Jesus Christ
told his disciples, who do men say that I am?
And they answered him. They answered him because people were
saying all kind of things who they thought Jesus Christ was.
But guess what. Jesus Christ identified Peter. He after the
disciples answered, then he went to Peter and he looked
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at Peter. He identified Peter. They was also sitting around him.
He said, Peter, who do you say I am? And
Peter said, you know, are the son of the Living God.
And Jesus Christ said to him, man did not reveal
that to you, my father and heaven only my Father,
and Heaven could reveal that to you. So see, your
eyes got to be open first through God. You're experiencing
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in Christ is revelation come from the Lord Jesus Christ.
And when you know that, you have a divine relation
that you can't explain, but you know it comes from God.
And guess what ministry is not just only pulpriit. Ministry
is outside ministry, just not outside ministries and the sheldiers
and the hospital and ministry everywhere mething that God want
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to use as a tool to get his glorvey across.
So with me, anything with me, MV. It was one
my DNA. Guess what I'm not just saying that because
of my family. I'm saying it because God, being birth
from his strong wound, he put his DNA inside me
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and then he positioned me and blessed me to be
born of a family and birth in a family with
this DNA. And guess what this is not? No, this
is not a no religious thing, This is a righteous thing.
This is a lifestyle. Yeah, you experience a lot of
different things. You go through a lot of different things
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to to let you know, you learn a lot of
different things to let you know and think who you
are and how you push it, and then you gotta
go through things because it's making your motive. I'm just
like I was even saying earlier, or one of the
things that I used to always ask my grandfather about,
because people have did some crazy and meanful and hurtful things.
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To me.
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And guess what, as much as people love me is
as much as people hate me. As much as people
hate me as much as the people love me. But
guess so, it's not about that. It's about you walking
in God's love and Jesus Christ's love, moving in God's
presence because I don't worry about knowning that why because
when you really know who you are, you know there's
a lot of people that don't know who they are.
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But when you come and have an encounter with the
Lord Jesus Christ and having an encounter to only spirit,
you have to know. I used to always say to
my grandfather and think, why people so jealous? I mean,
I said that listen, they could get to God like
I could get to God. Everybody should have a drive
and chase after God. It's just the same way when
somebody have a drive to chase after basketball or baseball
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or school and all that stuff. Everything is all connected.
The Bible says that God, the Lord Jesus Christ, God
said to Jeremi, I knew THEE before I formed THEE
in your mother moom. So that means this is a
spiritual thing. This was already created from the beginning of time.
And this is why I always tell my wife, this
great woman of God. I love my wife, Pampas gentlemen,
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I tell everybody this. I let my family know everything
I said. When the Lord get ready to call me home.
You don't have to put a lot in my obituary.
The only thing you could say if anybody knows the
loard Alexander Williams, you know that his life spoke for himself.
And I stand on that and I live like that
because guess what, humbleness Love and humbleness is the key
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your relationship with God. And I want to encourage every man,
every woman, every young people, young people, a young person
out there. There's something inside you, gritty than what you think,
and you are destined to see a lot of people
don't believe in destiny. And so guess what, empy live
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fourth It's gonna be thirty nine years July fourth of
twenty twenty five. You're gonna be thirty nine years I've
been creature.
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Wow, that's what God.
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But it's God. Yes, sister, is God. I love the
Lord lovey, it's God. I don't talk about myself. I don't.
I don't have to talk about what I've accomplished in this,
this or something. Hey, I tell you, my wife asks
my family, Hey.
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It's your walk, it's your walk.
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I talk about that.
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There's so many people that claim that they're about God's business,
but then when you look at how they're operating, you know,
and all the things like you talk about jealousy and
all the different things that that we know that's not
of God. We have no choice. But the question that right,
because if you walk here as God would walk, you
would not be doing most things such as that, or
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at least you would know when it's an accident, it's
a mistake, it's something that's wrong, it's error. You understand.
I'm saying not saying that we don't sure.
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Hello, hello, we just look short. But we should know enough.
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If you're in relationship and in that book, you should
know enough to say you know what that was wrong?
This is what God calls this and this is not
of him, So we need to change that. Not saying
it's gonna change overnight. Hello, it's not gonna change overnight,
but but it will change by and by as long
as you walk that walk and you continue. And you
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know what I loved about what we spoke about is
that you you said something that is very vital. You
said that you knew your walk with God from day one.
And that's amazing to me. I have to piggyback on
that because when you said it to me, I was like, man,
most people like myself ran, you know, we run for
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ministry most times, but you knew from the beginning that
that was God, that was that was God.
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Wow.
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And and I'm assuming and just saying what you're saying
because of your upbringing and the strong faith upbringing that
you were in. But I definitely know that people have
run even in being in strong faith. You know, it's
just commendable to hear that you stood fast, you stood
on that rock, you believed what God had called you
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to and you heard him. I mean, you know, most
folk don't hear, they don't hear from God. They don't
hear that voice, you know. So truly, you was anointed
and appointed for a time such as that, you know,
And I just bless you for saying that, because most
people think that everybody runs, everybody runs from the Lord. No,
you know, most people don't want to hear what God
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has to say or don't want to listen and be obedient.
But you are different. And truly I bless God for that,
you know, because that is something that you know, most
people think they're crazy because they hear certain things. You know,
as a kid, they heard voice, you know, heard God
saying blah blah blah. Oh they speak on terms of that,
and people just say, oh, you was too young, how
you know?
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How you know?
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You know, and they just come down against them. So
I just was God apostle for you saying that, because
there are listeners out there that are hearing this and
they need to know that, Yes, He can be calling
you from day one. He called you out the womb,
like you said, and like you said, he called you
out the wolves. So why wouldn't you believe you know
what I'm saying, Why wouldn't know that that's who who
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that is?
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You know?
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But but again, everybody's story is not everybody's story and
I'm just let God for you. For that I truly
do well, We're gonna listen to the woman of the half,
and that's what.
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You gotta play.
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Given everyone.
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I'm like apostle.
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I always knew I was called from young, especially to
the prosthetic, having dreams and visions from the age of
five six seven. I am a p K being raised
in a Pentecostal Apostolic church that our foundation was prayer, entirely,
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service and Bible study. And so I always knew that
I was called and chosen and set apart by God. However,
sometimes being raised in the ministry, you see a lot
and you experience a lot, and because of that, you
kind of don't want to move forward and minister.
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You you you love God.
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I've always had a love for God. I've always had
a relationship with God. But because of a lot of
things that I've experienced and seen, it was kind of like,
you know, God, I'm okay with being the usher. I
don't need to preach, I don't need to propheside, you
don't need the things.
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That you you know, are showing me.
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I have this running joke that if running, if you know,
I kind of ran from ministry, and I had this
running joke that if running worked, I would be the
MVP because I was dodging everything every time. They would
just know, we want you to pray, we want you
to minute, so we want you to do all of
those things that it's kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah,
but you know how you're saying yeah, but you're you're
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walking backwards. So you know, I kind of ran for it,
and so I guess the Lord was just like, Okay, well,
I got.
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A truth for you. I'm gonna pay you with the
Man of God.
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I'm gonna say with the prophet, and he's gonna help
push you and your gifting and this prophetic office because
there is a sound that is in your belly that
needs to be heard. And that's exactly what happened. And
I wouldn't change it for nothing in the world, because
for God to think that much of us, to want
to use us if it's a beautiful thing, it's an
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awesome thing.
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And I'm just humbled and honest to be able to,
you know, walk in.
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The capacity of ministry that I do, and especially alongside
my amazing husband, the Great Apostle LeVar Alexander Williams yeah,
I love it.
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I love it. I love it. I'll tell you what
a teen tag team what w w ain't got nothing
on y'all. Y'all in there, y'all in there. I truly
truly love you. I love your spirit, I love your love,
I love your zest for God. It is truly a
blessing my sister. And I know a little tad bit
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about you too, but we're gonna let that go a
little bit later on. I didn't even tell you. I'm
gonna cara all that out on a minute. But uh
what I know. The church a wonderful church. Uh, you
guys came and blessed, uh my agency up a storm.
You you guys came in there, prayed up, put hands
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on the building, put handles on the walls. Y'all just
brought down any stronghold that was in that place.
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And I just blessed God to you.
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Thank you so much for all that y'all do. The
dominion Church of God's Grace. That's a heavy, heavy title,
can pastor can you tell me where where that come from?
That's a you know, that's a lot.
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That's a lot demnion.
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Dominion in itself, But Church of God's Grace.
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Yes, yes, that that that name. God gave that name
to my grandfather because my grandfather, uh, my grandfather and
my grandmother. Uh, my grandfather the founder, you know. God
nade him the founder, which God founded the church through
him empty. And God gave the name to two of
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the Median Church of God's Grace and the Dominion Nation.
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Uh were ly international globally.
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So we thank God Empty. And when God gave that
name to my grandfather and my grandparents was a part
of an organization called the Church and God of Christ.
And the Church out of Christ had released some great
men and women of God. The Church out of Christ,
they have birth that of the organization Turkey out of
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Christ have birthed a lot of great men and women
of God. And in a big way to me personally,
the children out of Christ is not the same no more.
But they still pushing and growing. We got to keep
on pushing and push it and going and push it.
But God called my grandmom, God called my grandparents out
of the churchren God in Christ and told my grandfather,
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I will make your father many nations, and I will
make my grandm And told my grandmother, I will make
you a mother many nations, and so my grandparents they
came out of Chidren got in Christ. You know, they
had my mother and my uncle. They pushing, going forward
and moving forward and letting the power of God just
flows through them. After started prophetic deliverance, ministry, the move,
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deliberation and healing to all mankinds. So that's where that
man came from. And you know what next year, twenty
twenty five is going to be sixty years.
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Crazy, God, it's gonna make sixty years.
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Yeah, sixty years, six oh sixty years going forward and
pushing and striving, and we thank God for God's blessing,
the miracles, you know, my grandfather's successor. And I love
every bit of it. And then because it's who I am,
so my grandfather have to then I have to force
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me and make me. Indeed, just he knew, he knew
that this is how God was moving. And I and
God showed me, and God let learn this how God moving.
So we continue to push to go forward, and we
and and and we will continue dominion to God's grace. Dominion.
The Bible talks about God gave man dominion, and and
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so we want to push to encourage people. So they
could know that they have dominion to subdue the earth
and to walk and deliverance and to walk in freedom
and the walking peace and home the greed change because
it's not about us. A house full of love, that
that be a house full of love, and be a
house for the love, and we love. It's not about us.
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It's about making an impact to mankind. People are dying
out there, and God have chosen the MENI in Church
of God's Grace and dominate nature worldwide, international, global, globally.
He has chosen us as a vehicle to bring change,
a vehicle to bring delivers, a vehicle to cultivate, the
vehicle to be a motivational purpose, not just to mankind
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in the body in the church world, but to mankind
as to law souls, to bring them. Told them saying,
Lord Jesus, hey received this man, received this woman. God
has made us an army. My grandfather, you should always
say to me, and you should always say to the
church my grandmother too. And you should always say to
the church. Indeed, they will always say, listen, we are armies.
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God has raised us to be an army, and we
are army that raised up armies. We are army that
help other armies. We are on me that God has
created us to defeat and destroy the devil kingdom. He
Proppy used to always say. He's always said the spirit
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of religion is an enemy against us, and we are
enemy against the spirit of religion. And and it's true
because people do things off of religious mindset. This gotta
be about lifestyle. This has gotta be about righteousness, holiness
and righteousness. This gotta be about love, This gotta be
about peace. You gotta let somebody know out there. We
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gotta let somebody know out there us as a body Christ,
the baptized believer, because the church building is just in
a symbol place by the church building, just in a
simil the Bibles that don't forget to assimble yourself together.
And what that means, What that means that iron shopping
eye in the scripture talks about that iron shopping iron
and that's what the people talks about too. And it
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means that your testimony will help somebody else this morning,
somebody else that's going to help somebody else. Testimony somebody
else is gonna help somebody else testma And see it's
not about I want to tell you all out there
to any leader out there, because one of the annoying
things and callings and gifts things and my wife and
my life and then my wife's life and our life
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and the domain truth God, that God had callings to leadership.
It's not about members. I tell people all the time.
It's not about members. It's about sons and daughters. It's
about discipling discipleship. Man. You know, so many people think
it's about a personality. It's not about your personality. It's
not about your intelligence. It's not about who you think
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you are. It's not about that. It's about humbleness. It's
about walking in the anointing and the calling of Jesus Christ.
Because Jesus Christ is the apostle inside you. If he
call the poss he is the prophet inside you. He
is the evangelists inside you go to the event. He
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is the pastor inside you cause you be a positi.
He is the teacher inside because you be a teacher.
Most of all, it's not about titles. People's going about
these titles. It's not about whether you're a bishop, whether
you're a digit, whether you whether you that. It's not
about what you think you know and how you know,
it's about understanding real relationship with Jesus Christ. And that's
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what Jesus Christ brought to the earth when he came
to die on the court. He wanted to bring restoration
and restore that into God. And that's our job. That's
all I had been. That's what I mean. Yes, and
and you know, and God gave Mogrid for our vision
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the domain nin mission. We are a nation who's focused
on developing a positive relationship with ourself, our communities and others.
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That mean it begins with us first, praise God, praying God.
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Nature who's focused on a righteous lifestyle as opposed to
a religious lifestyle.
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Yeah, we.
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As the righteousness of God. It is necessary to operate
in God with the aritive principles. Let me tell you something.
God wants you to be healed from every sickness. But
it's spiritually, emotionally, mentally, physically, psychologically. God wants you to
be delivered. God wants to be a help. I want
you to know that everybody is not the same. People
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don't want to go to church no more because they
feel like everybody is same. They feel like this preacher
is doing this and that person doing this. Right I
go to church, I see this, so I might as well,
I might a little stay outside, and I think because
I see it in the church empty. So it's no
different from the world. Let me tell you something. Not
everybody's like that, not that every preacher is not like that,
Not every man not like that, not everyone not there.
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God have some faithful men and women of God out
there are written over the writen there some men and
women that's solid, that's sold up, that's really striving, that's
really pustious, that really want to please drive and not
really want to help you. The Bible says in Jeremiah
twenty nine, verse eleven. So I know the thoughts I'm
thinking of you, said the Lord of Host, thoughts of peace,
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you know, I mean, will give you an inspecting that
people of God all over the nations that's listening to us.
I want to let you know God having expected in
for you, and he loves you. He loves you, He
loves you, He loves you, shutting out out of the whole.
He loves you. And we speak salvation through the airways,
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the Bible says, and Romans and the tim chapter nine,
eight and nine. It's a consensuen shipping off that jenis Christian. Lord,
you have a right to live, you have a right
to have salvation. I know it been rough. I know
it been tough. I know you're hurting. I know you've
been abused. I know you don't know which way to go.
I know you're trying to figure out who you are
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and what you've been and what you think of you
think about that. I know you're trying to figure well,
I'm getting through this in the church. Why I go back?
This and that and this and that and this is that. Well,
let me tell you something. I'll have some great news
for you. The great news is is that the bad
news is alive. What is the bad news? Don't believe
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the depression that's trying to hinder you. Don't believe the
anger that's trying to stop you. Don't believe the fear
that's trying to hurt you. Don't believe the anxiety that's
trying to hurt you. Don't believe the abuse that's trying
to stop you. Don't believe anything that want to take
you out of your destiny. You aresting, you are destined,
you are purpose, You have victory. It's a beautiful thing.
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It's a beautiful it's a beautiful thank you, it's a
beautiful for me, It's a beautiful day.
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It's not about us, it's not about us. We true ministry,
true ministry, True ministry, is self less ministry. True ministry
is selfless ministry, true ministry. And we are here to
come to the whole man. God hadn't made us a nucleist,
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have made dominion to the God chrace have made the
dominion like nation, worldwide, international and global globu A nucleist
made us to bring change, and we're gonna follow God's world.
I tell people that all the time. God told us.
My grandfather said it, my grandmother said it, and they
are home with the Lord. My mother said it. My
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mother's still here, thank God. My mother is still going
for it hard going for family, everybody going for We
gotta keep on going. My own said it, The whole
family going for what God have birthed us to bring
life to mankind. And we are here to let you
know that you can make it. You could make it man, woman,
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and you could make it wherever you sing, you can
make it. And you got this, you got this, you
could do it. And that's real talk. As my younger
brother will say, my I have my my youngest brother, shabah.
He always made that statement. I always hear him make
that statement, like if he's talking to a good friend
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of his or associate, acquaintance or just in a conversation,
and then he'll say, and that's real talk.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Even I even said that earlier the day when.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
We were talking.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yes, you did.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
It's no more real than this. You know, true ministry
to true ministry. And you and you have so many ministries.
You are an author, you and your beautiful wife. You know, uh,
we definitely want to touch on, uh what ministries.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
In your church?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
It is being offered to the community because again it's
about community building and giving the people what they need.
Where does that sit with you and your wife?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yes? But guess what I think we we we love
ministring in the shelters, We love ministring in the nursing homes.
We love giving food, helping people the best way we
know how. We love and powering people so they could
think differently. You gotta teach people how to think different.
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We teach people how to think different. People will never
change if they still think in the same way. A
Israel God brought them out of Egypt, but we brought
them out of Egypt, they still was thinking the same way. Yeah,
so they had their mindset had to change. They thinking
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thinking had to change. We wanted we help people get jobs.
We encourage people to believe in themselves, to deal with
self awareness and when I say self awareness and things,
and so we run into people every day. We run
in people. People that's in the church, that's outside of
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the church, and people may have these different problems. When
you run into them, you got to be sensitive and
actually want to give your wisdom of how to direct
how to direct people. You have to know how to
direct people. So we have to have the wisdom God
to show people how to direct people into things, how
to walk there ring, how do you take them to
the next level, how do you begin anew how do
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you become afresh? You know, and we love people and
so love will help you move in the ministries to
push and operate the ministry outside because it's not just
about in the church.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
It's outside of the church.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's not outreach to put things together to establish this
deed and how and what and so you know, it
is a real beautiful thing. Because God is an awesome god.
It's understanding. Like I've wrote a book called the Angel
of the Lord Handbook, and I wrote this book in
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two thousand and seven and the book God gave me.
This book is a book for the affirmations and scriptures,
and it is to encourage and establish mankind to be
encouraged to hear what God is saying. If you teach
somebody something and they keep on doing it, it could
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be a habit, it can turn into a lifestyle, it
could turn into the mentality. And you teach them, and
you actually to keep your wisdom long enough and then
they can reach scriptures behind it. Then they'll say it
to themselves and then they push and strive and go forward.
But let them deliverers will come forward knowing that you
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should be able to win souls everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. So
so you know, we are in a new location right now,
and that's one something street between Ralph and Howard. We're
in a new location and another location. So you know,
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the COVID did a lot of different things. Church is
not the same. The church world is not the same
because of the COVID. But guess what, you have to
have the wisdom of God to move under the power
of God's through God's glory to let you guys have
His way, how to shift with His shift when things
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shift around you. Yes, because at the end of the day,
people still need help and you can't and you can't
give up or let down just because something shift around
you or just because you don't feel like it. You
gotta be full of joy. I tell people all the time,
if you have low self esteem and you come around
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us and within forty eight hours, that scrib low self
esteem is going to be away from you, right because
when you have people that really understand what the power
of joy is and the scriver of joy is, God
were used to push that depression and loptemo all that
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stuff and things is step by step. Sometimes things go graduate.
You gotta navigate. You got to navigate through Jesus because
it's not about us. It's not about me. It's not
about my wife, it wasn't about my family, it wasn't
about my white family. Let me tell you something. We
want people to see Jesus Christ in every area of
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our life. And that's what we are here, the meanian
to God's grace and the million night make the domain
nation my wife. You want people to see Jesus Christ.
We want men to see Jesus. We want women to
see Jesus. We want them to know and how and
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what I am.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I'll tell you you are amazing. You are amazing. Your
church is amazing. You truly blessed, coming miles away from
home just to bless me, uh and my beautiful children.
You you you came and you prayed for our establishment
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that we just started, uh called the agency in Pennsylvania,
in Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. And praise God, it just so
happened that y'all was coming out anywhere because my sister
was preaching you know what I'm saying, at a church,
and we just felt led. We just felt led to
to give you a little spread and have some food
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to go on back so that you could have something
on your stomach. But I need you to know that
you filled us, You filled that building, You filled us,
You lifted any and any kind of demonic forces that
was trying to hold us down. And they were trying,
but God sent you and I and I just want
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to thank you your your and I mean, it was
so amazing. You hear about the Shepherd, you hear the
stories and and you see it sometimes on television where
they have the shepherds and there they're leading their flock.
They're leading right for they're leading their leadership. And I
had a chance to actually experience that with you. When
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you sent your flock to do that work, you sat
like it was so amazing because I had never seen
a pastor or or apostle or anybody in that kind
of capassity to stand. You stood there and set your
flock to do what God needed done in that place
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and I and I just heard you praying and just
asking God to just help you and assist you your
flock to do what was needed to be done. And
I just really at that moment, that was the so
real moment that I actually seen a shepherd doing a
great work for God. And I mean this wholeheartedly. I
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never seen an experience like that. That was an experience,
that was a God experience. When you just sent your flock,
you just say, and they all knew.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Where to go.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
They just went and did what they had to do.
They touching the walls, touching the glass, someone even on
the floor praise God, praying up that space. And I
just need you to know that we have never been
the same. We have never been the same to see
that and have my babies experience that kind of faith
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when they talk about faith of a mustard seed. That's
that kind of faith. When you knew that your remnants,
your chosen people, you know that God placed in your care,
we are going to do what was needed to be done.
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I just thank you. I can't thank you enough. I am,
I am telling the listeners are today. We are filled
because of that visit, and I.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Ministry is just burfing, burfing with you guys, just so
much stuff God has for you. But I know that
we just heard that wonderful handbook that you're doing, and
I know you said that you were updated, you doing
some changes to it, and we're waiting because I want
to get to this. I want to get to this,
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but I definitely want to get to my girls, and
that we don't get you with your wonderful, wonderful authoress.
I know you're doing your things. Come on, tell us
a little bit about your books.
Speaker 7 (39:19):
So two years ago, by Birth, my first book of many.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
It's the title of it is led us from a
pastor's wife, and it's an encouragement, not just the pastor's wife,
But for women in the Body of Christ, those that
are in the secular world.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I believe that.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
I know for a fact because of the testimonies that
have come back, that it has impacted a lot of women.
Some have re dedicated their life back to the Lord.
Some have been many have been in power to go
forth and be who God has called them to be.
I think that you know, there's a special grace that
are needing lady has to have. It takes a special
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anointing to be a pastes wives because of all that
they have to do. You know, even a wife, you know,
being that helped me to help meet your Man of God,
your husband's needs, a spiritually, naturally, emotionally, mentally, physically, A
wife wears many hats and a lot of times you
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see in the Body of Christ where we see you know,
a pastors wives.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You know, we need to.
Speaker 8 (40:28):
Understand that it's more than just looking cute.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It's more than just.
Speaker 8 (40:32):
Wearing fancy clothes. You know, bethingful ministry to us more
than you know, a celebration to appreciate you standing.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
In the next to the Man of God.
Speaker 8 (40:41):
It is worth and you know it's not just for
us to push the man of God. But you know,
they have to understand that God called them to do something.
He purposed them to do something within the earth rim
as well, and for them that they need to find
their place. For them to understand that pastors, wives, they're
not made, but they're born. God ordained for you to
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be and stand we you are in the position that
you stand in when He creates you.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
You didn't just wake up and.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
Say today I'm gonna be a passage wife. It doesn't
work that way. He ordained it to be so. And
so just to encourage them to understand that, yes, the
weight does get heavy. Yes it's gonna be a lot
of things that you're going to deal with, a lot
of things that you're going to go through. There's a
lot of sacrifices. But God is with you and it's
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your destiny and.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
You can handle it.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
You can handle it.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Our job has to help me and not to raise
the man of God, but it is to build him.
It's to burn out whatever vision that God has placed
inside of him. And we wanted to understand our position
and our place within the ministry because.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
There is a seat for us at the table and
a lot of us, a lot.
Speaker 8 (41:51):
Of pastor wives. They don't understand that, or they're not
around the right.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
People to be encouraged to move forward in the things
of God.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
And it's an unfortunate thing, but that's basically what the
book is about, just encouragement to women to find their
place and to know who they are and be who
God ordained them to be, unapologetically, unapologetically every time I
think about the Book of Genesis where God put Adam
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to sleep and it says that he took the rib
out his side and created eve. He made man from
the dust of the earth. And then he put man
to sleep and took out a rib out of his
side to create woman. Our place is not behind him,
but beside him.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Man is from the earth.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
We as women are an extension of the earth because
we are an extension of man. And so when we
understand that, we understand that we are to walk beside him,
you're gonna hold him up. What does the rib do
and the natural body? It protects a lot of the
vital organs that we need to live.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
We are the stronger value.
Speaker 8 (43:02):
We are to protect, we are to cover, we are
to know our place. We are fearfully and wonderfully made.
We are fearfully and wonderfully made. And that's how we
have to see us, not what society says we should be,
not how people says we should.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Need, but how God looks at us, how what he
thinks of us.
Speaker 8 (43:24):
And his word has been Jeremiah twenty nine and eleven
that he knows the thoughts that he thinks towards us,
and not up evil to give us an expected end.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And so it's just basically us.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
Knowing who we are and what we've been called to do,
and walk in in it without hesitation, without compromise, and unapologetically.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
Well well, well, God is so good.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
And I just thank you for that, because you know
there is a place for women. I can and this
feeling this right now that women are there. You know
there's a place, and it's time to rise up for
the occasion. And I just bless God for you, because
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even every time I speak with you, uh both, I
see your respect, your respect for your man of God
or your husband, for the head of your church, your household.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
It's there.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
It's if you you wait for your time and and
and knowing and very confident in knowing that your time
is going to come.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Amen.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Some people. You know, I've interviewed so many and and
it's like you either over talking and you know, people
just trying to be who's gonna be who and what
they got to say. But I so appreciate your your
your a steadfastness and you're standing by your husband and
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and and it really it's you can feel it. You
can feel it, and that's when you know it's authentic.
Speaker 8 (45:16):
It's me.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
That's that's real pastor wife stuff. You're real pastor. You
don't have to be feeling like somebody gonna try to
get your man. That somebody going, you know, come on,
you know serious? That that's you know, honestly, that's the
big thing, the big huh will Pastor's wife, the insecurity thing,
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the fact that there the husband is making them feel
less than and they feel like they got to show
up and show out. No, you, like you said, you
got to know who you belong to and why you
was appointed that possession and really got the thing twisted
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Swiss so serious, you know, propherties, And I just bless
God for you because your spirit reeks, I am here,
we are here as one under one umbrella, and I
am right there, I am right there. You know and
that and everybody cannot say that. I'm here to say now,
I'm telling you I've been in many churches just like y'all,
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and you know what I'm talking about. You gotta be
set fast and confident and not who you are, but
whose you belong to.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
That's right, Oh, yes, yes, Now, I just wanted to
add No.
Speaker 8 (46:41):
One of the things that people fail to realize is
that there is a process that we have to go through.
There's a process that we have to go you know,
society being beauty as an outward appearance, but what about
the inside?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
And you something that was so cheap about the insecurities.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
Jealousy is the outwit manifestation of insecurities. And one thing
I've learned is nobody wakes up and say I'm gonna
be insecure today. There's some type of trauma or something
that they that have happened in their life that has
created that insecurity and in their process if they don't
allow God to deal with those things, if we don't
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allow God to deal with our issues, and now won't
say we do nothing but grow up with us. And
this is why we have a lot of immaturity in
the body of Christ. This is while we have all
of the competition and competing and all of these things.
When I think about the Proverbs thirty one woman, and
when we read that scripture so many times, Proverbs thirty
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one starting at the ten verse, and it's talks about
you know, who can find the virtuous women for her
findness mark, but will be the heart of her husbands,
just safely trusted in earth. And every time I read it,
one of the things I realize that people miss is
it wasn't how the description never gives a physical appearance.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Of what the gir she and a woman looked like.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
It was who she was and what she did that
made her attractive to her husband. So a lot of
a lot of women are trying to dress up and
make up to rule a man. But then that's just
going to grab their attention. But what are they going
to have when they get home. We really shows up
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when we think about a queen esther before she before she.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Went before the king. She just didn't around the queen
the king, you know, right of the way.
Speaker 9 (48:37):
There was a season of purification and a process that
she had to to make sure that she was fit
able to maintain the position that she was about to
step inste.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
So many and they dad it they will their husband
come on.
Speaker 8 (48:56):
They prayed for bo ass bow As married Ruth that.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
May and it's gone.
Speaker 8 (49:01):
You're waiting for somebody that before, for somebody else. In
said you need to be waiting on your promise. And
how long you wait it's how you wait.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
So in your wait and see that allow God to
process you that you will be help be mean. Yes, yes, we.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Haven't that y'all. Listeners, y'all are being blessed all tonight.
I'm telling you, oh, I just thank you so much.
We are coming on. I'm telling you you know, before
we go, I have to ask. I know you have
other ministries. Whether we are going to definitely set the
tone so you can just quickly say what is coming forward?
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What what do you have that you're you're looking to birth.
I've heard you say some things in our other conversation.
Please mention it to the listeners so that they know
where they can find knowledge.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Okay, we we we last August.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
I have us to start this.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
In the school is called Eagle House Leadership Revitory Training
School of Ministry and it's every Monday nights. Matter of fact,
we will be starting Court eight next Monday. And you
know it's a school of an awareness. It is to
encourage people so they can have an awareness. This it's
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not just for people to church, it's not just for
leadership or people in the mitter class. It's for unsaved
people or people that want to come to people probably
or people that just want to know who they are
where they're going. We want them to have an awareness
of who they are. And even for people that's in ministry,
who they are and what God is saying about their
life right right. And then now what God is speaking
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to you right now and understanding that God want to
speak to you, show your gifts and talents and let
you know you have a calling in your life and
you have purpose in your life. You know, so you
know we have that. Then we have God gave me
and my wife gave us uh uh loving Kingdom marriage
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and we and yesterday we started season three, well we
brought the introduction in uh concerning season three because next
Monday will be UH starting uh A season three officially,
and you know, teaching on love and kingdom marriage, teaching
on love and kingdom. God's kind of way, loving kingdom,
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this kind of way now you walk into perfection of
marriage the christoint because you got to be one with
yourself and committed to yourself before you can be want
to committed with somebody else. You got to be want
to commit but to this right before you could be
want to commit somebody else. And a lot of time,
just like my wife said, prophetly Is said, the Woman
of God said, she said, some of the people got
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to be conscious. You got men and women and women
and men, so many something goes on right before people
getting married or a lot of different things they've been doing,
even before they get mad. And you got to be
processed to understand God love you. The Bible says that
man love your wife like Christ of the Church. Let
me tell you some Jesus Christ died on the cross. Yes,
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he died on the cross. That's right. He dies on
the cross without no reservations and he dies Lord. So
when the Bible said, man love your wife like Christ,
love the Church, you got to think about that. Who
is Jesus Christ m M. And what does and what
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does Jesus Christ represent in you? You? How like? Yeah,
and you're represented in you so you know it's a
civiest thing, andy thing and you know and and uh
we know. We we we are here to cultivate leadership
and people in their callings and shift them in they
gifting and courting through Jesus Christ. Because it's not us,
it's the Lord using us and jo aboutness and because
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we want people to see Jesus. So it's all about homeliness.
And we want to push to push people to empower
them and let people know. People say, hey, all ministry
is not behind the pulpit, but if but guess what,
whatever ministry you have a corny and give you need,
want to encourage you and push you to strive within
it to go forward to watch to move from God
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and watch what God is doing. We we also we
do something sit down the desperation. We do something called
sound and deseberation and sound destination. Is that God has
put this burden on us that we call people within
different churches within not even just people in the church,
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but people from all over the place.
Speaker 5 (53:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
And we we do it once a month and then
and we put the date out there when we prepare
for it, and we have people to come and cry
out to God. The Lord said to me, The Lord
said to us, The Lord said to me. The Lord
said to us. He said, people is not desperate for
him no more. And the Lord said everything that they
need to have a sign. See, once you know your
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sound with Jesus Christ, once you know your sound with God,
and you come unapologetically, like my wife will say, and
you come without no reservations, and you cry out to God.
You cry after God, you empty yourself out, you cry
out to God. The Bible says, in the name of
Jesus date thrue Lord. The scripture says that Jesus Christ
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told that his disciples. He told his apostles, I have
need to go through Samabia. He has needed to meet
the woman at the well through Somebabity. We know it's
not made with Jews. Jews did not mixing with Samaritans.
Let me tell you something here, Jesus Christ have needed
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to meet you where you at. We have needs me at,
and sometimes you've gotta go to where Jesus Christ. Let
Christ me too where you at. That's it right, coming
to the well to talk to you. Man, you come
into the well to talk to you. He's coming to
the world to talk to you, little girl. He's coming
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to the well to talk to you. Little boy. He's
to the well. He's coming to Samaritan to tand to
your property. He's coming to Samaritan to talk to you. Prophet.
He's coming to Samarity. I'm going to talk to you, Evangelis.
He's coming to Samaritan, to the well, the street. The
speak to you, pastor, he's talking to you, and he's
coming to the well. The speak to you, teacher. He's
ting you. Speak to you, Bishop, he's telling to the well.
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He's coming to Samaritan, and he's coming to Samaritan to
speak to you. Whoever you are, wherever you are, lead
him at the well. He's coming to visit you at
you know, that's where you are. That's where you are.
And you are not broken that the Lord can't heal
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you all put you back together. You are not too
messed up that the Lord can't restore you. You are
not too hurt that the Lord can't heal you. Yes,
you are not too depressed that the Lord cannot set
you free from depression. And you are not too possessed
by the devil that the Lord Jenius Christ cannot deliver
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you or set you free from your possessions.
Speaker 6 (56:12):
Lord have your way. Lord, I thank you.
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Apostle and profit Is for coming on and blessing this platform.
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I can't even tell God's grace. I'm just the annoyed
that it just so overflow. And I just thank you
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they need, what you know that they need. Father God,
bless the listeners on today that they will be filled
and uplifted and in truly inspired by the guests that
we call on today. Father God, I just thank you
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for using me another Tuesday just to bring what you
need your people to get on today. Father God, I
just asked that you would just continue to allow me
to open my eyes so that I can always continue
to have an opportunity to bless your people and be
a blessing to you and uplist your kingdom.
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Father God.
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We ask all this in the precious name above all names,
Jesus Christ. H Amen, Amen, Amen, Thank you, Lord, Thank
you just for another day who we are blessed and
highly favorite by lifting up another show onto the Lord
with his people, with his wonderful wonderful listeners, with his wonderful,
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wonderful guests, and today would be no different. We bring
to you on this platform called the Testimony with your
host Paula Brionny. Yes, Yes, tonight we bring to you
just a wonderful, wonderful man woman of God, apostle and prophetess.
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Uh just authors.
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They're both authors, y'are. God is just bringing big, big
on tonight and we bring these wonderful people that are
from a wonderful church called Dominion Church of God's Grace. Yes,
we bring Apostle LeVar and Prophetess Jeanette.
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Williams, and they are on the line.
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Are they on the line? Let me ask if you're
in the house yard.
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Yes, yes, God bless you.
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Praise the Lord, Praise the Lord. I am still bubbling
over just from our earlier conversation. I'm telling you, y'all
are amazing. We almost didn't have much to talking about
right now. You know, God is just no good He
uses y'all mighty. I'm telling you we need about five
hours with your lovely, lovely couple. Wonderful women are man
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and woman of God. God bless you, God bless you.
But I have one question to ask you. How did
it begin for you both? I have the two the
duo on the line, So we just go to allow
the apostle will start and then we'll go right into propheties.
How did it begin for you guys in ministry? What
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made led you to believe that this was something that
God had called you to or that you felt led
to do? Was there anything that the average listener would
be listening to to see if really is this a calling?
How did it become a calling that kind of questions.
But that's why I asked the questions, how did it?
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Again?
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Well, the royal priests runs throughout my whole family, throughout
slavery time and throughout American history also, And I thank
God for my family m D. But whether they was
in it or not, this is what I would be
doing because when you know who you are, you just
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know who you are. And we thank God and being
because when God is shifting you or have prepared you
from the beginning of time to do his will, nothing
can't stop that, although the devil come up against you
to try to stop you and all sorts of ways.
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And so we thank God for the favor and the
blessings and the miracles of God on how God set
that up. And I thank God for m being going forward,
and I thank God for my grandfather, my grandmother, my mother,
for my family, my uncle, just for the family at large,
because Jesus Christ reigns forever more throughout the whole family.
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But on top of that everything, just like I said,
a lot of people would ask me, did my family
force me to do this? No, they did not. They
did not. They did not they forced the young people
in our family to do this. No, they did not.
This is a God thing. And so when you have passion,
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you have the belief system and you build your relationship
with God and you know what God is saying and
how God is moving, and God will always give you
that and awareness to know that it's Him. You have
to flow with it, and you're gonna walk with it,
and you have to stand in it, and you gotta
live with it because no problem, there is no power
greating in Jesus Christ's power. There's no power great in
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Jesus Christ's power. And the Bible says that Jesus Christ
told his disciples, who do men say that I am?
And they answered him. They answered him because people were
saying all kind of things who they thought Jesus Christ was.
But guess what. Jesus Christ identified Peter. He after the
disciples answered, then he went to Peter and he looked
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at Peter. He identified Peter. They was also sitting around him.
He said, Peter, who do you say I am? And
Peter said, you know, are the son of the Living God.
And Jesus Christ said to him, man did not reveal
that to you, my father and heaven only my Father,
and Heaven could reveal that to you. So see, your
eyes got to be open first through God. You're experiencing
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in Christ is revelation come from the Lord Jesus Christ.
And when you know that, you have a divine relation
that you can't explain, but you know it comes from God.
And guess what ministry is not just only pulpriit. Ministry
is outside ministry, just not outside ministries and the sheldiers
and the hospital and ministry everywhere mething that God want
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to use as a tool to get his glorvey across.
So with me, anything with me, MV. It was one
my DNA. Guess what I'm not just saying that because
of my family. I'm saying it because God, being birth
from his strong wound, he put his DNA inside me
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and then he positioned me and blessed me to be
born of a family and birth in a family with
this DNA. And guess what this is not? No, this
is not a no religious thing, This is a righteous thing.
This is a lifestyle. Yeah, you experience a lot of
different things. You go through a lot of different things
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to to let you know, you learn a lot of
different things to let you know and think who you
are and how you push it, and then you gotta
go through things because it's making your motive. I'm just
like I was even saying earlier, or one of the
things that I used to always ask my grandfather about,
because people have did some crazy and meanful and hurtful things.
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To me.
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And guess what, as much as people love me is
as much as people hate me. As much as people
hate me as much as the people love me. But
guess so, it's not about that. It's about you walking
in God's love and Jesus Christ's love, moving in God's
presence because I don't worry about knowning that why because
when you really know who you are, you know there's
a lot of people that don't know who they are.
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But when you come and have an encounter with the
Lord Jesus Christ and having an encounter to only spirit,
you have to know. I used to always say to
my grandfather and think, why people so jealous? I mean,
I said that listen, they could get to God like
I could get to God. Everybody should have a drive
and chase after God. It's just the same way when
somebody have a drive to chase after basketball or baseball
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or school and all that stuff. Everything is all connected.
The Bible says that God, the Lord Jesus Christ, God
said to Jeremi, I knew THEE before I formed THEE
in your mother moom. So that means this is a
spiritual thing. This was already created from the beginning of time.
And this is why I always tell my wife, this
great woman of God. I love my wife, Pampas gentlemen,
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I tell everybody this. I let my family know everything
I said. When the Lord get ready to call me home.
You don't have to put a lot in my obituary.
The only thing you could say if anybody knows the
loard Alexander Williams, you know that his life spoke for himself.
And I stand on that and I live like that
because guess what, humbleness Love and humbleness is the key
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your relationship with God. And I want to encourage every man,
every woman, every young people, young people, a young person
out there. There's something inside you, gritty than what you think,
and you are destined to see a lot of people
don't believe in destiny. And so guess what, empy live
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fourth It's gonna be thirty nine years July fourth of
twenty twenty five. You're gonna be thirty nine years I've
been creature.
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Wow, that's what God.
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But it's God. Yes, sister, is God. I love the
Lord lovey, it's God. I don't talk about myself. I don't.
I don't have to talk about what I've accomplished in this,
this or something. Hey, I tell you, my wife asks
my family, Hey.
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It's your walk, it's your walk.
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I talk about that.
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There's so many people that claim that they're about God's business,
but then when you look at how they're operating, you know,
and all the things like you talk about jealousy and
all the different things that that we know that's not
of God. We have no choice. But the question that right,
because if you walk here as God would walk, you
would not be doing most things such as that, or
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at least you would know when it's an accident, it's
a mistake, it's something that's wrong, it's error. You understand.
I'm saying not saying that we don't sure.
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Hello, hello, we just look short. But we should know enough.
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If you're in relationship and in that book, you should
know enough to say you know what that was wrong?
This is what God calls this and this is not
of him, So we need to change that. Not saying
it's gonna change overnight. Hello, it's not gonna change overnight,
but but it will change by and by as long
as you walk that walk and you continue. And you
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know what I loved about what we spoke about is
that you you said something that is very vital. You
said that you knew your walk with God from day one.
And that's amazing to me. I have to piggyback on
that because when you said it to me, I was like, man,
most people like myself ran, you know, we run for
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ministry most times, but you knew from the beginning that
that was God, that was that was God.
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Wow.
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And and I'm assuming and just saying what you're saying
because of your upbringing and the strong faith upbringing that
you were in. But I definitely know that people have
run even in being in strong faith. You know, it's
just commendable to hear that you stood fast, you stood
on that rock, you believed what God had called you
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to and you heard him. I mean, you know, most
folk don't hear, they don't hear from God. They don't
hear that voice, you know. So truly, you was anointed
and appointed for a time such as that, you know,
And I just bless you for saying that, because most
people think that everybody runs, everybody runs from the Lord. No,
you know, most people don't want to hear what God
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has to say or don't want to listen and be obedient.
But you are different. And truly I bless God for that,
you know, because that is something that you know, most
people think they're crazy because they hear certain things. You know,
as a kid, they heard voice, you know, heard God
saying blah blah blah. Oh they speak on terms of that,
and people just say, oh, you was too young, how
you know?
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How you know?
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You know, and they just come down against them. So
I just was God apostle for you saying that, because
there are listeners out there that are hearing this and
they need to know that, Yes, He can be calling
you from day one. He called you out the womb,
like you said, and like you said, he called you
out the wolves. So why wouldn't you believe you know
what I'm saying, Why wouldn't know that that's who who
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that is?
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You know?
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But but again, everybody's story is not everybody's story and
I'm just let God for you. For that I truly
do well, We're gonna listen to the woman of the half,
and that's what.
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You gotta play.
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Given everyone.
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I'm like apostle.
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I always knew I was called from young, especially to
the prosthetic, having dreams and visions from the age of
five six seven. I am a p K being raised
in a Pentecostal Apostolic church that our foundation was prayer, entirely,
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service and Bible study. And so I always knew that
I was called and chosen and set apart by God. However,
sometimes being raised in the ministry, you see a lot
and you experience a lot, and because of that, you
kind of don't want to move forward and minister.
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You you you love God.
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I've always had a love for God. I've always had
a relationship with God. But because of a lot of
things that I've experienced and seen, it was kind of like,
you know, God, I'm okay with being the usher. I
don't need to preach, I don't need to propheside, you
don't need the things.
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That you you know, are showing me.
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I have this running joke that if running, if you know,
I kind of ran from ministry, and I had this
running joke that if running worked, I would be the
MVP because I was dodging everything every time. They would
just know, we want you to pray, we want you
to minute, so we want you to do all of
those things that it's kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah,
but you know how you're saying yeah, but you're you're
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walking backwards. So you know, I kind of ran for it,
and so I guess the Lord was just like, Okay, well,
I got.
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A truth for you. I'm gonna pay you with the
Man of God.
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I'm gonna say with the prophet, and he's gonna help
push you and your gifting and this prophetic office because
there is a sound that is in your belly that
needs to be heard. And that's exactly what happened. And
I wouldn't change it for nothing in the world, because
for God to think that much of us, to want
to use us if it's a beautiful thing, it's an
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awesome thing.
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And I'm just humbled and honest to be able to,
you know, walk in.
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The capacity of ministry that I do, and especially alongside
my amazing husband, the Great Apostle LeVar Alexander Williams yeah,
I love it.
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I love it. I love it. I'll tell you what
a teen tag team what w w ain't got nothing
on y'all. Y'all in there, y'all in there. I truly
truly love you. I love your spirit, I love your love,
I love your zest for God. It is truly a
blessing my sister. And I know a little tad bit
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about you too, but we're gonna let that go a
little bit later on. I didn't even tell you. I'm
gonna cara all that out on a minute. But uh
what I know. The church a wonderful church. Uh, you
guys came and blessed, uh my agency up a storm.
You you guys came in there, prayed up, put hands
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on the building, put handles on the walls. Y'all just
brought down any stronghold that was in that place.
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And I just blessed God to you.
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Thank you so much for all that y'all do. The
dominion Church of God's Grace. That's a heavy, heavy title,
can pastor can you tell me where where that come from?
That's a you know, that's a lot.
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That's a lot demnion.
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Dominion in itself, But Church of God's Grace.
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Yes, yes, that that that name. God gave that name
to my grandfather because my grandfather, uh, my grandfather and
my grandmother. Uh, my grandfather the founder, you know. God
nade him the founder, which God founded the church through
him empty. And God gave the name to two of
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the Median Church of God's Grace and the Dominion Nation.
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Uh were ly international globally.
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So we thank God Empty. And when God gave that
name to my grandfather and my grandparents was a part
of an organization called the Church and God of Christ.
And the Church out of Christ had released some great
men and women of God. The Church out of Christ,
they have birth that of the organization Turkey out of
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Christ have birthed a lot of great men and women
of God. And in a big way to me personally,
the children out of Christ is not the same no more.
But they still pushing and growing. We got to keep
on pushing and push it and going and push it.
But God called my grandmom, God called my grandparents out
of the churchren God in Christ and told my grandfather,
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I will make your father many nations, and I will
make my grandm And told my grandmother, I will make
you a mother many nations, and so my grandparents they
came out of Chidren got in Christ. You know, they
had my mother and my uncle. They pushing, going forward
and moving forward and letting the power of God just
flows through them. After started prophetic deliverance, ministry, the move,
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deliberation and healing to all mankinds. So that's where that
man came from. And you know what next year, twenty
twenty five is going to be sixty years.
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Crazy, God, it's gonna make sixty years.
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Yeah, sixty years, six oh sixty years going forward and
pushing and striving, and we thank God for God's blessing,
the miracles, you know, my grandfather's successor. And I love
every bit of it. And then because it's who I am,
so my grandfather have to then I have to force
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me and make me. Indeed, just he knew, he knew
that this is how God was moving. And I and
God showed me, and God let learn this how God moving.
So we continue to push to go forward, and we
and and and we will continue dominion to God's grace. Dominion.
The Bible talks about God gave man dominion, and and
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so we want to push to encourage people. So they
could know that they have dominion to subdue the earth
and to walk and deliverance and to walk in freedom
and the walking peace and home the greed change because
it's not about us. A house full of love, that
that be a house full of love, and be a
house for the love, and we love. It's not about us.
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It's about making an impact to mankind. People are dying
out there, and God have chosen the MENI in Church
of God's Grace and dominate nature worldwide, international, global, globally.
He has chosen us as a vehicle to bring change,
a vehicle to bring delivers, a vehicle to cultivate, the
vehicle to be a motivational purpose, not just to mankind
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in the body in the church world, but to mankind
as to law souls, to bring them. Told them saying,
Lord Jesus, hey received this man, received this woman. God
has made us an army. My grandfather, you should always
say to me, and you should always say to the
church my grandmother too. And you should always say to
the church. Indeed, they will always say, listen, we are armies.
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God has raised us to be an army, and we
are army that raised up armies. We are army that
help other armies. We are on me that God has
created us to defeat and destroy the devil kingdom. He
Proppy used to always say. He's always said the spirit
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of religion is an enemy against us, and we are
enemy against the spirit of religion. And and it's true
because people do things off of religious mindset. This gotta
be about lifestyle. This has gotta be about righteousness, holiness
and righteousness. This gotta be about love, This gotta be
about peace. You gotta let somebody know out there. We
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gotta let somebody know out there us as a body Christ,
the baptized believer, because the church building is just in
a symbol place by the church building, just in a
simil the Bibles that don't forget to assimble yourself together.
And what that means, What that means that iron shopping
eye in the scripture talks about that iron shopping iron
and that's what the people talks about too. And it
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means that your testimony will help somebody else this morning,
somebody else that's going to help somebody else. Testimony somebody
else is gonna help somebody else testma And see it's
not about I want to tell you all out there
to any leader out there, because one of the annoying
things and callings and gifts things and my wife and
my life and then my wife's life and our life
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and the domain truth God, that God had callings to leadership.
It's not about members. I tell people all the time.
It's not about members. It's about sons and daughters. It's
about discipling discipleship. Man. You know, so many people think
it's about a personality. It's not about your personality. It's
not about your intelligence. It's not about who you think
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you are. It's not about that. It's about humbleness. It's
about walking in the anointing and the calling of Jesus Christ.
Because Jesus Christ is the apostle inside you. If he
call the poss he is the prophet inside you. He
is the evangelists inside you go to the event. He
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is the pastor inside you cause you be a positi.
He is the teacher inside because you be a teacher.
Most of all, it's not about titles. People's going about
these titles. It's not about whether you're a bishop, whether
you're a digit, whether you whether you that. It's not
about what you think you know and how you know,
it's about understanding real relationship with Jesus Christ. And that's
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what Jesus Christ brought to the earth when he came
to die on the court. He wanted to bring restoration
and restore that into God. And that's our job. That's
all I had been. That's what I mean. Yes, and
and you know, and God gave Mogrid for our vision
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the domain nin mission. We are a nation who's focused
on developing a positive relationship with ourself, our communities and others.
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That mean it begins with us first, praise God, praying God.
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Nature who's focused on a righteous lifestyle as opposed to
a religious lifestyle.
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Yeah, we.
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As the righteousness of God. It is necessary to operate
in God with the aritive principles. Let me tell you something.
God wants you to be healed from every sickness. But
it's spiritually, emotionally, mentally, physically, psychologically. God wants you to
be delivered. God wants to be a help. I want
you to know that everybody is not the same. People
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don't want to go to church no more because they
feel like everybody is same. They feel like this preacher
is doing this and that person doing this. Right I
go to church, I see this, so I might as well,
I might a little stay outside, and I think because
I see it in the church empty. So it's no
different from the world. Let me tell you something. Not
everybody's like that, not that every preacher is not like that,
Not every man not like that, not everyone not there.
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God have some faithful men and women of God out
there are written over the writen there some men and
women that's solid, that's sold up, that's really striving, that's
really pustious, that really want to please drive and not
really want to help you. The Bible says in Jeremiah
twenty nine, verse eleven. So I know the thoughts I'm
thinking of you, said the Lord of Host, thoughts of peace,
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you know, I mean, will give you an inspecting that
people of God all over the nations that's listening to us.
I want to let you know God having expected in
for you, and he loves you. He loves you, He
loves you, He loves you, shutting out out of the whole.
He loves you. And we speak salvation through the airways,
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the Bible says, and Romans and the tim chapter nine,
eight and nine. It's a consensuen shipping off that jenis Christian. Lord,
you have a right to live, you have a right
to have salvation. I know it been rough. I know
it been tough. I know you're hurting. I know you've
been abused. I know you don't know which way to go.
I know you're trying to figure out who you are
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and what you've been and what you think of you
think about that. I know you're trying to figure well,
I'm getting through this in the church. Why I go back?
This and that and this and that and this is that. Well,
let me tell you something. I'll have some great news
for you. The great news is is that the bad
news is alive. What is the bad news? Don't believe
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the depression that's trying to hinder you. Don't believe the
anger that's trying to stop you. Don't believe the fear
that's trying to hurt you. Don't believe the anxiety that's
trying to hurt you. Don't believe the abuse that's trying
to stop you. Don't believe anything that want to take
you out of your destiny. You aresting, you are destined,
you are purpose, You have victory. It's a beautiful thing.
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It's a beautiful it's a beautiful thank you, it's a
beautiful for me, It's a beautiful day.
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It's not about us, it's not about us. We true ministry,
true ministry, True ministry, is self less ministry. True ministry
is selfless ministry, true ministry. And we are here to
come to the whole man. God hadn't made us a nucleist,
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have made dominion to the God chrace have made the
dominion like nation, worldwide, international and global globu A nucleist
made us to bring change, and we're gonna follow God's world.
I tell people that all the time. God told us.
My grandfather said it, my grandmother said it, and they
are home with the Lord. My mother said it. My
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mother's still here, thank God. My mother is still going
for it hard going for family, everybody going for We
gotta keep on going. My own said it, The whole
family going for what God have birthed us to bring
life to mankind. And we are here to let you
know that you can make it. You could make it man, woman,
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and you could make it wherever you sing, you can
make it. And you got this, you got this, you
could do it. And that's real talk. As my younger
brother will say, my I have my my youngest brother, shabah.
He always made that statement. I always hear him make
that statement, like if he's talking to a good friend
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of his or associate, acquaintance or just in a conversation,
and then he'll say, and that's real talk.
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Even I even said that earlier the day when.
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We were talking.
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Yes, you did.
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It's no more real than this. You know, true ministry
to true ministry. And you and you have so many ministries.
You are an author, you and your beautiful wife. You know, uh,
we definitely want to touch on, uh what ministries.
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In your church?
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It is being offered to the community because again it's
about community building and giving the people what they need.
Where does that sit with you and your wife?
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Yes? But guess what I think we we we love
ministring in the shelters, We love ministring in the nursing homes.
We love giving food, helping people the best way we
know how. We love and powering people so they could
think differently. You gotta teach people how to think different.
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We teach people how to think different. People will never
change if they still think in the same way. A
Israel God brought them out of Egypt, but we brought
them out of Egypt, they still was thinking the same way. Yeah,
so they had their mindset had to change. They thinking
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thinking had to change. We wanted we help people get jobs.
We encourage people to believe in themselves, to deal with
self awareness and when I say self awareness and things,
and so we run into people every day. We run
in people. People that's in the church, that's outside of
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the church, and people may have these different problems. When
you run into them, you got to be sensitive and
actually want to give your wisdom of how to direct
how to direct people. You have to know how to
direct people. So we have to have the wisdom God
to show people how to direct people into things, how
to walk there ring, how do you take them to
the next level, how do you begin anew how do
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you become afresh? You know, and we love people and
so love will help you move in the ministries to
push and operate the ministry outside because it's not just
about in the church.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
It's outside of the church.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's not outreach to put things together to establish this
deed and how and what and so you know, it
is a real beautiful thing. Because God is an awesome god.
It's understanding. Like I've wrote a book called the Angel
of the Lord Handbook, and I wrote this book in
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two thousand and seven and the book God gave me.
This book is a book for the affirmations and scriptures,
and it is to encourage and establish mankind to be
encouraged to hear what God is saying. If you teach
somebody something and they keep on doing it, it could
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be a habit, it can turn into a lifestyle, it
could turn into the mentality. And you teach them, and
you actually to keep your wisdom long enough and then
they can reach scriptures behind it. Then they'll say it
to themselves and then they push and strive and go forward.
But let them deliverers will come forward knowing that you
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should be able to win souls everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. So
so you know, we are in a new location right now,
and that's one something street between Ralph and Howard. We're
in a new location and another location. So you know,
(33:26):
the COVID did a lot of different things. Church is
not the same. The church world is not the same
because of the COVID. But guess what, you have to
have the wisdom of God to move under the power
of God's through God's glory to let you guys have
His way, how to shift with His shift when things
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shift around you. Yes, because at the end of the day,
people still need help and you can't and you can't
give up or let down just because something shift around
you or just because you don't feel like it. You
gotta be full of joy. I tell people all the time,
if you have low self esteem and you come around
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us and within forty eight hours, that scrib low self
esteem is going to be away from you, right because
when you have people that really understand what the power
of joy is and the scriver of joy is, God
were used to push that depression and loptemo all that
(34:29):
stuff and things is step by step. Sometimes things go graduate.
You gotta navigate. You got to navigate through Jesus because
it's not about us. It's not about me. It's not
about my wife, it wasn't about my family, it wasn't
about my white family. Let me tell you something. We
want people to see Jesus Christ in every area of
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our life. And that's what we are here, the meanian
to God's grace and the million night make the domain
nation my wife. You want people to see Jesus Christ.
We want men to see Jesus. We want women to
see Jesus. We want them to know and how and
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what I am.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I'll tell you you are amazing. You are amazing. Your
church is amazing. You truly blessed, coming miles away from
home just to bless me, uh and my beautiful children.
You you you came and you prayed for our establishment
(35:37):
that we just started, uh called the agency in Pennsylvania,
in Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. And praise God, it just so
happened that y'all was coming out anywhere because my sister
was preaching you know what I'm saying, at a church,
and we just felt led. We just felt led to
to give you a little spread and have some food
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to go on back so that you could have something
on your stomach. But I need you to know that
you filled us, You filled that building, You filled us,
You lifted any and any kind of demonic forces that
was trying to hold us down. And they were trying,
but God sent you and I and I just want
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to thank you your your and I mean, it was
so amazing. You hear about the Shepherd, you hear the
stories and and you see it sometimes on television where
they have the shepherds and there they're leading their flock.
They're leading right for they're leading their leadership. And I
had a chance to actually experience that with you. When
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you sent your flock to do that work, you sat
like it was so amazing because I had never seen
a pastor or or apostle or anybody in that kind
of capassity to stand. You stood there and set your
flock to do what God needed done in that place
(37:09):
and I and I just heard you praying and just
asking God to just help you and assist you your
flock to do what was needed to be done. And
I just really at that moment, that was the so
real moment that I actually seen a shepherd doing a
great work for God. And I mean this wholeheartedly. I
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never seen an experience like that. That was an experience,
that was a God experience. When you just sent your flock,
you just say, and they all knew.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Where to go.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
They just went and did what they had to do.
They touching the walls, touching the glass, someone even on
the floor praise God, praying up that space. And I
just need you to know that we have never been
the same. We have never been the same to see
that and have my babies experience that kind of faith
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when they talk about faith of a mustard seed. That's
that kind of faith. When you knew that your remnants,
your chosen people, you know that God placed in your care,
we are going to do what was needed to be done.
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I just thank you. I can't thank you enough. I am,
I am telling the listeners are today. We are filled
because of that visit, and I.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Ministry is just burfing, burfing with you guys, just so
much stuff God has for you. But I know that
we just heard that wonderful handbook that you're doing, and
I know you said that you were updated, you doing
some changes to it, and we're waiting because I want
to get to this. I want to get to this,
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but I definitely want to get to my girls, and
that we don't get you with your wonderful, wonderful authoress.
I know you're doing your things. Come on, tell us
a little bit about your books.
Speaker 7 (39:19):
So two years ago, by Birth, my first book of many.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
It's the title of it is led us from a
pastor's wife, and it's an encouragement, not just the pastor's wife,
But for women in the Body of Christ, those that
are in the secular world.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I believe that.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
I know for a fact because of the testimonies that
have come back, that it has impacted a lot of women.
Some have re dedicated their life back to the Lord.
Some have been many have been in power to go
forth and be who God has called them to be.
I think that you know, there's a special grace that
are needing lady has to have. It takes a special
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anointing to be a pastes wives because of all that
they have to do. You know, even a wife, you know,
being that helped me to help meet your Man of God,
your husband's needs, a spiritually, naturally, emotionally, mentally, physically, A
wife wears many hats and a lot of times you
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see in the Body of Christ where we see you know,
a pastors wives.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You know, we need to.
Speaker 8 (40:28):
Understand that it's more than just looking cute.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It's more than just.
Speaker 8 (40:32):
Wearing fancy clothes. You know, bethingful ministry to us more
than you know, a celebration to appreciate you standing.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
In the next to the Man of God.
Speaker 8 (40:41):
It is worth and you know it's not just for
us to push the man of God. But you know,
they have to understand that God called them to do something.
He purposed them to do something within the earth rim
as well, and for them that they need to find
their place. For them to understand that pastors, wives, they're
not made, but they're born. God ordained for you to
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be and stand we you are in the position that
you stand in when He creates you.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
You didn't just wake up and.
Speaker 8 (41:08):
Say today I'm gonna be a passage wife. It doesn't
work that way. He ordained it to be so. And
so just to encourage them to understand that, yes, the
weight does get heavy. Yes it's gonna be a lot
of things that you're going to deal with, a lot
of things that you're going to go through. There's a
lot of sacrifices. But God is with you and it's
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your destiny and.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
You can handle it.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
You can handle it.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Our job has to help me and not to raise
the man of God, but it is to build him.
It's to burn out whatever vision that God has placed
inside of him. And we wanted to understand our position
and our place within the ministry because.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
There is a seat for us at the table and
a lot of us, a lot.
Speaker 8 (41:51):
Of pastor wives. They don't understand that, or they're not
around the right.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
People to be encouraged to move forward in the things
of God.
Speaker 8 (42:00):
And it's an unfortunate thing, but that's basically what the
book is about, just encouragement to women to find their
place and to know who they are and be who
God ordained them to be, unapologetically, unapologetically every time I
think about the Book of Genesis where God put Adam
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to sleep and it says that he took the rib
out his side and created eve. He made man from
the dust of the earth. And then he put man
to sleep and took out a rib out of his
side to create woman. Our place is not behind him,
but beside him.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Man is from the earth.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
We as women are an extension of the earth because
we are an extension of man. And so when we
understand that, we understand that we are to walk beside him,
you're gonna hold him up. What does the rib do
and the natural body? It protects a lot of the
vital organs that we need to live.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
We are the stronger value.
Speaker 8 (43:02):
We are to protect, we are to cover, we are
to know our place. We are fearfully and wonderfully made.
We are fearfully and wonderfully made. And that's how we
have to see us, not what society says we should be,
not how people says we should.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Need, but how God looks at us, how what he
thinks of us.
Speaker 8 (43:24):
And his word has been Jeremiah twenty nine and eleven
that he knows the thoughts that he thinks towards us,
and not up evil to give us an expected end.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And so it's just basically us.
Speaker 8 (43:36):
Knowing who we are and what we've been called to do,
and walk in in it without hesitation, without compromise, and unapologetically.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
Well well, well, God is so good.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
And I just thank you for that, because you know
there is a place for women. I can and this
feeling this right now that women are there. You know
there's a place, and it's time to rise up for
the occasion. And I just bless God for you, because
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even every time I speak with you, uh both, I
see your respect, your respect for your man of God
or your husband, for the head of your church, your household.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
It's there.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
It's if you you wait for your time and and
and knowing and very confident in knowing that your time
is going to come.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Amen.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Some people. You know, I've interviewed so many and and
it's like you either over talking and you know, people
just trying to be who's gonna be who and what
they got to say. But I so appreciate your your
your a steadfastness and you're standing by your husband and
(45:07):
and and it really it's you can feel it. You
can feel it, and that's when you know it's authentic.
Speaker 8 (45:16):
It's me.
Speaker 6 (45:18):
That's that's real pastor wife stuff. You're real pastor. You
don't have to be feeling like somebody gonna try to
get your man. That somebody going, you know, come on,
you know serious? That that's you know, honestly, that's the
big thing, the big huh will Pastor's wife, the insecurity thing,
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the fact that there the husband is making them feel
less than and they feel like they got to show
up and show out. No, you, like you said, you
got to know who you belong to and why you
was appointed that possession and really got the thing twisted
(45:59):
Swiss so serious, you know, propherties, And I just bless
God for you because your spirit reeks, I am here,
we are here as one under one umbrella, and I
am right there, I am right there. You know and
that and everybody cannot say that. I'm here to say now,
I'm telling you I've been in many churches just like y'all,
(46:21):
and you know what I'm talking about. You gotta be
set fast and confident and not who you are, but
whose you belong to.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
That's right, Oh, yes, yes, Now, I just wanted to
add No.
Speaker 8 (46:41):
One of the things that people fail to realize is
that there is a process that we have to go through.
There's a process that we have to go you know,
society being beauty as an outward appearance, but what about
the inside?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
And you something that was so cheap about the insecurities.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
Jealousy is the outwit manifestation of insecurities. And one thing
I've learned is nobody wakes up and say I'm gonna
be insecure today. There's some type of trauma or something
that they that have happened in their life that has
created that insecurity and in their process if they don't
allow God to deal with those things, if we don't
(47:24):
allow God to deal with our issues, and now won't
say we do nothing but grow up with us. And
this is why we have a lot of immaturity in
the body of Christ. This is while we have all
of the competition and competing and all of these things.
When I think about the Proverbs thirty one woman, and
when we read that scripture so many times, Proverbs thirty
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one starting at the ten verse, and it's talks about
you know, who can find the virtuous women for her
findness mark, but will be the heart of her husbands,
just safely trusted in earth. And every time I read it,
one of the things I realize that people miss is
it wasn't how the description never gives a physical appearance.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Of what the gir she and a woman looked like.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
It was who she was and what she did that
made her attractive to her husband. So a lot of
a lot of women are trying to dress up and
make up to rule a man. But then that's just
going to grab their attention. But what are they going
to have when they get home. We really shows up
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when we think about a queen esther before she before she.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Went before the king. She just didn't around the queen
the king, you know, right of the way.
Speaker 9 (48:37):
There was a season of purification and a process that
she had to to make sure that she was fit
able to maintain the position that she was about to
step inste.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
So many and they dad it they will their husband
come on.
Speaker 8 (48:56):
They prayed for bo ass bow As married Ruth that.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
May and it's gone.
Speaker 8 (49:01):
You're waiting for somebody that before, for somebody else. In
said you need to be waiting on your promise. And
how long you wait it's how you wait.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
So in your wait and see that allow God to
process you that you will be help be mean. Yes, yes, we.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Haven't that y'all. Listeners, y'all are being blessed all tonight.
I'm telling you, oh, I just thank you so much.
We are coming on. I'm telling you you know, before
we go, I have to ask. I know you have
other ministries. Whether we are going to definitely set the
tone so you can just quickly say what is coming forward?
(49:42):
What what do you have that you're you're looking to birth.
I've heard you say some things in our other conversation.
Please mention it to the listeners so that they know
where they can find knowledge.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Okay, we we we last August.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
I have us to start this.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
In the school is called Eagle House Leadership Revitory Training
School of Ministry and it's every Monday nights. Matter of fact,
we will be starting Court eight next Monday. And you
know it's a school of an awareness. It is to
encourage people so they can have an awareness. This it's
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not just for people to church, it's not just for
leadership or people in the mitter class. It's for unsaved
people or people that want to come to people probably
or people that just want to know who they are
where they're going. We want them to have an awareness
of who they are. And even for people that's in ministry,
who they are and what God is saying about their
life right right. And then now what God is speaking
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to you right now and understanding that God want to
speak to you, show your gifts and talents and let
you know you have a calling in your life and
you have purpose in your life. You know, so you
know we have that. Then we have God gave me
and my wife gave us uh uh loving Kingdom marriage
(51:06):
and we and yesterday we started season three, well we
brought the introduction in uh concerning season three because next
Monday will be UH starting uh A season three officially,
and you know, teaching on love and kingdom marriage, teaching
on love and kingdom. God's kind of way, loving kingdom,
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this kind of way now you walk into perfection of
marriage the christoint because you got to be one with
yourself and committed to yourself before you can be want
to committed with somebody else. You got to be want
to commit but to this right before you could be
want to commit somebody else. And a lot of time,
just like my wife said, prophetly Is said, the Woman
of God said, she said, some of the people got
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to be conscious. You got men and women and women
and men, so many something goes on right before people
getting married or a lot of different things they've been doing,
even before they get mad. And you got to be
processed to understand God love you. The Bible says that
man love your wife like Christ of the Church. Let
me tell you some Jesus Christ died on the cross. Yes,
(52:12):
he died on the cross. That's right. He dies on
the cross without no reservations and he dies Lord. So
when the Bible said, man love your wife like Christ,
love the Church, you got to think about that. Who
is Jesus Christ m M. And what does and what
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does Jesus Christ represent in you? You? How like? Yeah,
and you're represented in you so you know it's a
civiest thing, andy thing and you know and and uh
we know. We we we are here to cultivate leadership
and people in their callings and shift them in they
gifting and courting through Jesus Christ. Because it's not us,
it's the Lord using us and jo aboutness and because
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we want people to see Jesus. So it's all about homeliness.
And we want to push to push people to empower
them and let people know. People say, hey, all ministry
is not behind the pulpit, but if but guess what,
whatever ministry you have a corny and give you need,
want to encourage you and push you to strive within
it to go forward to watch to move from God
(53:18):
and watch what God is doing. We we also we
do something sit down the desperation. We do something called
sound and deseberation and sound destination. Is that God has
put this burden on us that we call people within
different churches within not even just people in the church,
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but people from all over the place.
Speaker 5 (53:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
And we we do it once a month and then
and we put the date out there when we prepare
for it, and we have people to come and cry
out to God. The Lord said to me, The Lord
said to us, The Lord said to me. The Lord
said to us. He said, people is not desperate for
him no more. And the Lord said everything that they
need to have a sign. See, once you know your
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sound with Jesus Christ, once you know your sound with God,
and you come unapologetically, like my wife will say, and
you come without no reservations, and you cry out to God.
You cry after God, you empty yourself out, you cry
out to God. The Bible says, in the name of
Jesus date thrue Lord. The scripture says that Jesus Christ
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told that his disciples. He told his apostles, I have
need to go through Samabia. He has needed to meet
the woman at the well through Somebabity. We know it's
not made with Jews. Jews did not mixing with Samaritans.
Let me tell you something here, Jesus Christ have needed
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to meet you where you at. We have needs me at,
and sometimes you've gotta go to where Jesus Christ. Let
Christ me too where you at. That's it right, coming
to the well to talk to you. Man, you come
into the well to talk to you. He's coming to
the world to talk to you, little girl. He's coming
(55:03):
to the well to talk to you. Little boy. He's
to the well. He's coming to Samaritan to tand to
your property. He's coming to Samaritan to talk to you. Prophet.
He's coming to Samarity. I'm going to talk to you, Evangelis.
He's coming to Samaritan, to the well, the street. The
speak to you, pastor, he's talking to you, and he's
coming to the well. The speak to you, teacher. He's
ting you. Speak to you, Bishop, he's telling to the well.
(55:27):
He's coming to Samaritan, and he's coming to Samaritan to
speak to you. Whoever you are, wherever you are, lead
him at the well. He's coming to visit you at
you know, that's where you are. That's where you are.
And you are not broken that the Lord can't heal
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you all put you back together. You are not too
messed up that the Lord can't restore you. You are
not too hurt that the Lord can't heal you. Yes,
you are not too depressed that the Lord cannot set
you free from depression. And you are not too possessed
by the devil that the Lord Jenius Christ cannot deliver
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you or set you free from your possessions.
Speaker 6 (56:12):
Lord have your way. Lord, I thank you.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I thank you.
Speaker 6 (56:18):
Apostle and profit Is for coming on and blessing this platform.
I tell you we need more time with you. We
need more time, you know. But I thank you for
that awesomeness, that prayer. We we we needed that on today,
and listeners, you've just been blessed. Please go to my
Facebook page, Paulabreon dot com, the facebook page, my mind,
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anywhere you can find me, find me because I'm definitely
gonna be posting up about these wonderful wonderful this this team, this,
this anointed team right here, the Well Dominion Church of God.
I can't even tell God's grace. I'm just the annoyed
that it just so overflow. And I just thank you
so much. Thank you for the platform, Positive Power twenty
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one and the listeners for coming every Tuesday at nine
pm Eastern the standard time and not finding it robbery
to be here. God bless you and we will be
bringing you back, Yes we will. God bless you, hey man,
God bless you.
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God bless you.
Speaker 3 (57:51):
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