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May 14, 2025 51 mins
Da Testimony with Paula Brion
Episode Title: From Wealth to Wisdom: The Journey of Dr. Glenn Toby

Original Air Date: Tuesday, 05/14/2025 at 9 PM EST
Platform: Positive Power XXI Christian Radio

Host: Paula Brion “The Diva for Christ”
Special Guest: Dr. Glenn Toby – Entrepreneur, Philanthropist, Author, and Entertainment Executive

🎧 Episode Summary:
In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Da Testimony with Paula Brion, we welcome Dr. Glenn Toby, a highly respected figure in the entertainment industry and founder of the Book Bank Foundation. From humble beginnings as a homeless youth in Brooklyn to managing A-list artists and athletes, Dr. Toby shares how his personal “test” evolved into a globally impactful “testimony.”

With incredible transparency, he discusses the journey from success driven by fear to a life led by purpose. Dr. Toby reflects on walking away from material excess to embrace a life of giving, purpose, and spiritual healing. This conversation is rich with wisdom on leadership, mentorship, community outreach, mental health, and the true meaning of wealth and legacy.

💡 Key Topics Covered:
  • Glenn Toby’s early life and struggle with homelessness
  • His career as “Mr. Sweety G” in hip hop and transition into executive leadership
  • Managing LL Cool J, Positive K, David Banner, and more
  • Transitioning from the music industry to sports management and philanthropy
  • Founding the Book Bank Foundation and serving the lost, lonely, and forgotten
  • Realizing that true wealth is spiritual, not material
  • How to lead with compassion, empower others, and recognize your divine purpose
  • Practical tools for overcoming brokenness, building discipline, and giving from a place of abundance
✝️ Scripture Foundation:“Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over…”— Luke 6:38 (NIV)

🌍 Community Impact:
Dr. Toby’s Book Bank Foundation is a beacon of hope, offering educational tools, food distribution, mental health support, and programs like:
  • Groceries to Grow: Feeding thousands weekly
  • Flight School Initiative: Teaching youth to fly airplanes and dream higher
  • One Block at a Time: Urban outreach transforming lives
  • Book Bank Institute: Online educational resources for entrepreneurship and personal growth
For more info: www.thebbf.org | Social: @thebbf
🧠 A Word from Paula Brion:
“Dr. Glenn Toby reminds us that the most powerful testimony doesn’t always begin in lack — sometimes it comes when you realize that even in abundance, God has more for you. His heart for people is as grand as his accomplishments. We’re blessed to hear from someone successful and surrendered to a higher calling.”

📚 Book Recommendation:
  • Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison – A profound literary classic that explores identity, race, and personal evolution.
Dr. Glenn Toby encourages everyone to “Write your own book—your life is the manuscript.”
🙏 Final Word & Prayer:
“Let us remain in the cycle of grace and goodness… not be enamored by the conditions of change, but remain rooted in divine purpose.”— Dr. Glenn Toby

Dr. Toby closes the episode with a moving prayer of restoration, purpose, and alignment with God’s will for every listener.
💬 Connect with Dr. Glenn Toby:Website: www.drglenntoby.com
Email: info@thebbf.org
Social: @drglenntoby | @thebbf
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uh with Thanksgiving, and we go to the throne, and
today it will be no different. Father God, I just
asked that you would have your way with today's show.
This is your platform, Lord, so that people can get

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a closer relationship with you, a closer walk with you, Lord,
Father God, I would just ask that you would use
us in the way that you need us to elevate
your people and have them to get a better understanding
of what it is to be in ministry via the
test that we all go through in life that take

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us to our testimony. We just always ask that you
would intervene and come into the place as you do
every Tuesday, and uplift the listeners, inspire the listeners, and
take them to a whole other level in you. We
ask all this in the precious name above all names,

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Jesus Christ. Amen, Amen a man. Yes, this is the testimony,
and this is Paula Beond the de bar for Christ. Yes,
we are here on another inspirational and uplifting Tuesday, as
we do every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time,
and again today will be no different. We bring to

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you a man of God, anointed man of God at
that just innovator. He's a talented manager. He's an entertainer
of hip hop influence. Yes, he is an influencer as
well as an author. Yes, we bring to you on today, listeners,

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and you will truly be blessed. We bring Glenn Toby.
Is Glenn on the line?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well, you know we always you know, sometimes it takes
a minute for folks to get into the to the platform.
But again we will take the liberties on today to
just again, I want to think, because that doesn't often
happen where I get the chance to thank the listeners
and all the platforms of people that come on and
don't find it robbery to be here sharing in this

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moment on the testimony where we look at the tests
that we go through in life and we uh uh
you know, speak on terms of how it takes us
to our richer testimony because we all have those tests,
those those rough times that we uh have to reach
sometime we have to dig deep uh and go to

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God for the help in just to get us where
we need to be in hopes that we'll become better Christians,
better for it, you know, with God's strength uh in
our lives. So again today will be no different. Well,
the gentleman that we are bringing on is a wonderful,

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wonderful man of God. He is about his music, he
is about business entrepreneurship, and you will truly, truly be blessed.
Do we have Glenn Toby on.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
The line, Yes, you do?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
How you doing today?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Hey, I'm good, God bless you. Thank you for again
just being on this platform as we inspire and uplift
the listeners on today with your presence.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I just was saying so much good stuff about you
because you're just a wonderful music executive, extraordinary and all
that good stuff, and you do just so many different things,
and you know, I love you so much. God bless
you for me on this platform. But you know, just
to start this thing up, you know, I know you

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are an expert when it comes down to the entertainment field.
So we're gonna really educate the listeners on what it
means to be an entertainer, what it means to be
an entrepreneur on today's world. But the first thing I
always ask, because I always speak on terms of the
test that we go through in life, take us to
our testimony.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
What is that for you?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
What did it look like?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
How did it start for you in ministry and being
a man that is willing to do what he can
to uplift the entertainment field.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, I think you know it's amazing story. First of all,
I want to give a big shout out.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
For you listening.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
You know, you people are getting a triple treat with
this young legend right here. You know, Paul has been
she talks about everybody else. He's always talking about the
blessings and giving the blessing to everybody. So she's been
a blessing to our industry and dance, soul, music, house gospel.
I want and she's not gonna say this about herself.
I want you guys to go to to discd and

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dig more into what she's done musically. You know, google it,
check her out. She's done some amazing things from strictly
rhythm and on. So I just wanted to say that
it's so important.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh God, bless you.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
We just want to know how how did you in
for you? You just do You wear so many hats,
you do so many things, and you do it efferlessly,
Like looking at you from a distance, you know you
being on Facebook and Instagram and all those wonderful sites.
You just do a lot. How how do you, you know,
just keep it going?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
And how did it begin for you? So you know,
I was born absolutely, I was born in Brooklyn, and
I experienced youth homelessness real early from eight till about
the seventh grade.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
My mother had a nervous breakdown.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Uh, we were troubled, bounce around the different government, support
relative people that loved us, and you know, we got
through it. We were not physically harmed, mentally or spiritually harmed.
From there, I got to seventh grade and Queens, yes,
ma'am for sure, seventh gradon Queens, and I got involved
in the art form this thing we call hip hop.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
One of the first rappers.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
In Queens before run By and C and l L
and the family. I was mister Sweeten Gee in the
rat world and I continue to record, going through five
Boroughs with Dougie Fresh, Biz Market, Grand Master Flash, Curtis
Blow and of course the great DJs like Psycho Sounds
and Fitny Machine.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Disco Twins did really well with that.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Put out a few records. First one was at the
Place to Be. From there emerging into looking at business,
you know money. So because I wanted to survive, sugar
Hill offered me a deal and they wanted one hundred
percent of my publishing. So I passed as a business person.
My spirit wouldn't allow it. I grew up in a
house of we was raised by very wise women, my
brother and I and integrity was the first thing.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
But as I moved through that and you know this
p you know what it's like, you know what house
music was.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I was one of the first New York City partis,
you know, a cultural vibe, doing Mafooon Day, Mind Games, Power,
and then a lot of this solo stuff, remixing, producing,
and I stopped from there and went on to managel
L Cool J for four years with.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Charles Fisher and of course Brian Latour.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
We did the Show in the House with Quenty Jones.
I was involved in the Mister Smith's album.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
That was when I was in the rain.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
We worked tirelessly. I started my own music endeavors. I
discovered a Positive K, produced and wrote his first record.
I discovered David Banner, the rapper actor. We were involved
in transitioning R. Kelly when he was troubled and ended
up being troubled again.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
From there, cashed out by the.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Music business and went into sports and we did about
three hundred and fifty million in the NFL. I represented
sprobably some of the best defensive backs.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
In the league.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
We did as Santie's record breaking sixty million dollar deal.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I represented world champion.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Boxers, worked with Don King. Got out of that and
I'm going to turn it here to the return of
the Spirit. You know, I was chasing because I felt
like poverty was going to eat me alive. I didn't
want to go back to poverty. I didn't want my
mother to suffer. I didn't want to suffer. And my
success was driven by fear, and I was always looking

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in the mirror from the rear. But I didn't realize
what would be dear was for me to look into
a different atmosphere. It was never that near, it was
never that clear. But I never had a lot of fear.
So I had to appear but a different way. And
I just kept struggling from day to day. So I
looked at everything and I counted it up, and I
realized and said, that's what's up. I needed to go
into the space of maybe philanthropy, and that's the thing

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that saved me. Others giving me, gifting me, helping us.
You know, we believed in giving up the necessities, giving.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Up the.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Things that you don't need. You know, like something I'm
saying I need to do this, Well, I got to
skip that meal, or I have to not get the
car that I want.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
You know, the.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Desires, learning how to manage the desire. Because I wasn't
very desirous in the music business. I was always able
to not I had succumb to drugs and crazy things.
I didn't get in any trouble and I had so
much discipline. So I relinquished a lot of the worldly
things and just focused on success.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
But I looked back and realized that it was fear,
not desperation.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
It was trying to create a house that I could
put all of my childhood trauma, my fears, my shortcomings into,
not a house to idolatry or worship, a house of magnanimity.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Ended up getting a house. It was twelve thousand and
five hundred square feet.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
You know, I had to bent leaves, the cars, flying
private the jewelry, all these worldly things, and it's never
a house pick enough to hold it.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
And it's definitely not a house pick enough to house it.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Realizing, you know, I was born rich, but I wasn't wealthy,
and that you don't live in the house, You live
in what houses you. So I started the foundation called
the Book Bank Foundation. It's been aroun for about twenty
eight years. We seed and feed the loss, the lonely,
and the forgotten. It's education based. We believe that education

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is the first medication and it helps eradicate the disease
of ignorance, poverty, mental illness, incarceration, and economic disparity. That's
been the driving force of the philanthropist. But to drive that,
you know, the poor can't help the poor beside pouring.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Into the poor.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
But if you're spiritually empty and economically bank loved, you
can't do anything for anybody. So you've got to work
on the inner self, the outer wealth, maintain your health,
operate in stealth.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
So you can get to where you got to go
to move the people.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And that's an important that ending right there just is
so profound, like trying to find out what moved the people?
How did that begin for you? Like what was it
that you actually leaned on? Was it the art of
hip hop?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
You know?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Was it you know what actually led you to You
always had the plateau of wanting to help the people.
So that's not the question. The question is what what
do you feel within you that led you to your
spirit walk and made that a stronger platform for and
in order for you to help the people.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
There were different phases, right, everybody wants to hear you know,
you know I had untold wealth, I had the same
and influence. You know, this was even before the internet
really broke. So I'd be on a magazine cover or.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
In the source, or.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Or TV show that would seem like could lasts for
six months. You know, back then, magazine leave times were different.
But you're going to expect me to say, you know,
I just woke up and said, let me just save
the world, let me help them. Know what happened to
me is I had so much money and so much abundance,
and I was so fulfilled economically and worldly that I

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had no one else to give except somebody else had
I had so much my cup was running over, it
was spilling. I sat down one day day I.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Looked at the houses, the cars. It brought me nothing.
It was a benchmark for success.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
It was a measuring stick from how far I was
from wealthy, and I mean how far I had amassed
wealth and realizing, hey, I don't want to be a billionaire.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I don't need four cars, I.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Don't need house is twelve thousand, five hundred square feet,
I don't need all these different places in different cities.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
What am I doing.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I'm just in a constant race, But I'm not winning
the race because every day, you know, we are doing
things at are base that are supposed to be pleasing
to God, that I'm supposed to fulfill the soul and
give us a completeness of one. And I was really
looking at winning, winning, making money, ah being number and
then it just stopped, and I was like, you know what,

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I can't give myself anything else on this earth. God's
given me everything, and even when I give in the spirit,
it's not lasting in love.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Let me add, and let me add.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Some physical to the spirit. So I started focusing on
giving away, and I saw how easy it was. I
saw how I attracted money. The attraction of money was
for me to give to others gifts. It means giving
in faith and trust. I'm giving to you in faith
that I have faith that God will allow me to

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replenish and I'll have and I'm trusting you'll do the
right thing. That's the art of giving, knowing how to
give something to somebody, understanding.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
The more you give, the better you live.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Knowing that the more you give, it is a promise
in the cycle of abundance that repeats itself. The dissonance,
the gap between the two is you the broken, those
who have this spirit of lack, the thing that's holding
you back is what you don't attract. You got to
sit there, maybe skip a meal, maybe get an eviction notice,

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maybe just move back at home, get your car repossessed.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Who and what are you?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
What is the richness in you? And you know, fifty
says get rich or die trying. I didn't get rich
till I stopped trying. Yeah, the basics, the basics, the basics.
We will be brought back to them every day. And

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if we are consumed with wealth, with self, with adornment
of the world, we're going to repeat this empty cycle
that we're gonna need more watches, and some people go
to different things, more women, more accolades, you, more attention.
What it's just there's an emptiness and when you pour
into others, that's the only way to really be fulfilled.

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That's the promise of God that pours into that. The
continuity of giving is a complete safe circle of receiving. Yes,
And that's the difference between broke and rich. That's the
difference between the richness of God and being heavenly worthy
versus earthly worthless, or being.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Earthly worthy and heavenly worthless.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, looking at and listening to what you're saying, this
thing just came full circle for you. You know, you
started in one plateau and you elevated to that next level.
But it's it's awesome to hear you with your admittance
to being rich not being as fulfilling per se, you know,

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because you had had everything right. There was nothing that
you really lacked in on a needy basis, but you
just felt lad God just led you to actually want
to just do more for people. And I can only
imagine that doing because I know how I feel with
just doing anything for somebody. It's it's an empowering feeling.

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It's a it's a motivational feeling again that will make
you do more right and want to reach and reach
and just keep reaching.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
That that, you know, in itself is so uh awesome
because most people come on the platform and they you know,
if I say the test to take them to their testimony,
you know, they they lean on the disabilities constantly in
the sense of not having So I appreciate you for

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coming on and speaking on terms of when you have everything,
you know, because oftentimes most folks can't get the chance to,
you know, be hon it to speak to someone who's
been there, done that and has exceeded on what their
expectations have been on themselves as far as building what
they need to build, but willing to, you know, give
to the community because that's what it's about. It's about

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giving back. That's big for me, you know, giving like
having this platform where you could actually reach out to
folk and have them to understand that it's about only
the things we do for our people. The love of
God tells us to just love on your neighbor. You
know what I'm saying, and that and that is what

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I'm hearing and what you're saying in light of that,
You're a man that has had everything and most will say, well, okay,
next to giving, and you're doing that even now. What's
next for Glenn Toby?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
What you know?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
You you've got the education, you've got the entrepreneurship expertise.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
What's next for you?

Speaker 3 (19:51):
For many? Yeah? Well I love that question.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Ef. It's a god others to the light.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Live in the light.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
And when my work stops that it's not my hand
that's tilling the plow, it's other people that are moving.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I can live in the shadows.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
My shadows won't be gray, My shadows will be forever light,
even in the darkness, as long as you're leading people
to grace, leaving people to take over. At some point,
you know things are going to change. Things change in time,
and it's better you release them on your terms with
God being pleased and to have it taken.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
So leading leading, and I have to get a little
bit more deep because people don't understand this thing. And
please forgive me for just going you know, asking you
questions that might seem like, okay, not really deep enough.
But when you lead, is what does your lead look like?
Because other people's lead look differently, what does your lead

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look like?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
So you know, a lot of people don't lead because
they're self competitive. They feel like if they lead or
guide somebody else to the water, they'll drink the ocean,
they'll drink the river. They think if they show them
put a pen in their hand, they'll outrighte them. If
they give them a paint brush, they'll out paint them.
If there's a way to design and create them. So

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to me, I'm a natural builder and I'm it's instilled
in me, you know, from childhood, maybe from birth, maybe
from ancestors. I'm a master giver. I'm master of the
art of giving. And I do have power in deciding.
I have a power in my voice, not necessarily in
the mission. Who I decide to line up? Do I

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give someone a good tool, or give someone a hammer
to build or to hit someone in the head. Do
I get somebody a lighter so they can build a
bonfire because you know the stove ain't working, or do
they burn the church down? Like this is the power
of power.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Knowing the power of power.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's not if you don't know the power power, it's
an absolute weakness. And I think the great part of
it is that God allows you to select and shoes
to your eyes and heart what's right and what's wrong
from your vision. Oftentimes you can't measure the content of
a man or a woman's heart. But if your systems
are properly applied, and if you educate people well enough,

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and if you see certain things, you got a good team.
You know that person might get the wick of the candle,
but they may not get the light. So mastering the
gist of aligning and leading and appropriating people's dreams and
bringing light to the darkness and knowing when to kind
of put the candle lights out so it doesn't burn
something is what the walk of my life is now.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
That light, that light I tell you many speak about it,
but to live it, you know and know that thing
for what it is is something different. You know, God
uses you mighty and I'm so honed that you would
be on this platform. Uh just giving these gems, you know, uh,

(23:05):
tools that that the listeners can listen and understand and
don't have a problem with breaking things down for for
the average Joe that just really doesn't know how to
get a handle on what it looks like to get
that closer walk with God, to get that closer walk
with from neighbor to neighbor, because that's where it begins, right,

(23:29):
you know, it starts with the people that are around you.
It starts with people and us just learning how to
love on one another. And then a perilous time as
today you know, is where we're we're facing. You know,
just a lot of storms, you know, things that tests,
as I say, that take people and just storm every

(23:50):
which away. But for for you know, there is a
light you know that shines through all of us. And
just know what that light is, so that you could
feed the community, so that you can give back to
the community. You talk about your agency, your company, and
your ministry and what you do, like what are the

(24:12):
things that your ministry does you know, and for the
people in the community on a month to month or
day to day basis, what does it look like.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
For you, Well, it's pretty much teaching. We have different programs.
We have one program called Groceries to Grow, where we
were feeding as many as three thousand people a week
for the last two years, delivering directly to the house
where they meet us in public locations where they're safe.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
You know, some people don't want to be seen. We
deliver to the door.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
We have a flight program which is the Book Thanks
Foundation Aviation School, which is coming up in July, and
that will be where we train kids from the age
of twelve to as much as seventeen to physically fly
the airplane to learn navigational skills. They take a tour
at the airport. We have something called one Block at

(25:04):
the time, we have five different active chapters of the
Book Bank Foundation, which you can find more about at
the BBF dot org or anything on social. The BBF
is what it's called on anything social. Book Bank Foundation.
Then we have something where you know, we've been coming
to the city for.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
You've seen this.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I think we've been doing it for fifteen years or
more twenty years. I don't even know that we've been
We take buses and we drive to.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
All five boroughs. We deliver new clothing.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
We've been deliver food, personal hygiene, toys, coats, gift cards
to shelter people under the bridges, in the tunnels, in
the subway.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
So we've been doing that forever.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
And you know, we have the online school, a book
bank institute, and what people can do is go on
and learn about business and practical lessons so that they
can continue to compete in this thriving, changing economy.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, we're often changes. I'm change it more and so
forth these days. You know before I'm telling you it's
just a time that we're in right now. And and
I think it's not even a question of who's seeking
or who's in need, because there's so many even beyond

(26:21):
what you've done. I know that you see this need
a little bit higher elevation now because of all the
changes that you know, the leaders are making, and it's
just been a lot of depression.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Do you have uh sessions where people are counseled. Do
you have that kind of plateau of of of UH
within your ministry and within your company that you offer
to people and what does that look like.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, that's one of the most important things, you know,
so important. I do direct counseling, and you know, we
have several resource groups and individual people. People can call
eight hundred nine three three nine five or they can
email us at info at the BBF dot org. And

(27:14):
that just looks like counseling and guiding and listening and
sharing and helping people get to resources to overcome things
that are holding them back, the spirit of lack and
just finding tools and resources sometimes the materials that are
needed for someone to change their life or within them
a gift of skill, a bad habit.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
People that are hypercritical.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
They might be able to emotionally control themselves, to be
able to deal with the public and be able to
manage critics because they can look in the mirror and
turn it around.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
It's just people need to have skills.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
You know. The person that is troubled recidi this and
who are good at hustling, whether they're selling drugs or
con men, scammers, somebody that picks a lock the locksmith.
Somebody that can talk, somebody you know, out of their.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Money can talk into God's grace.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
You know. Somebody that loves to loves to talk can
be an interesting host. I mean, we can turn all
these stones and bricks and rocks into a wall or
a building that is mighty and high and it can
cover us.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
We can be covered, or.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
It can defend us too if we got to throw
some of those rocks and bricks.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, sometimes yeah, oh wow, really really
greet so yeah, listen. We don't want to say most
times because that was that sound like we you know,
but yeah, it's it's that kind of society. It's that
kind of a world that we live in, and sometimes
we have to do. You know, like I tell people,

(28:46):
oftentimes there's nothing wrong with no. Sometimes no can save
your life.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
It can't always be yes. It can't always be yes, right, Glenny.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It just can't always give give gifts.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
And not see. Like you said, you got to know
what you're given to, right, you got to know that
thing and and that comes from within. Just like you said,
it's a spirit led thing, you know, to know, you know, uh,
discermined to know if it's good or if it's not,
and just how to push and and how to help

(29:22):
and assist and that and that, you know, oftentimes we
don't know that you know a lot of I know
that's my error. You know, I'm just so blessed to
speak to someone that has it uh together, because it's
it's it's a heavy order. When you're trying to do
you and and and trying to get you to elevate

(29:42):
to other levels. Sometimes it's hard, you know, to to
reach out to others and try to be as giving
and and and uh reachable as you can, because sometimes
just life doesn't allow that. You know what I'm saying,
But what what would you say to somebody like me
who faces challenges like that? What would be your advice

(30:04):
to someone who's listening that might find that that's not
reasonable for them because of where they're at. What would
be your advice?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I think honesty, I think listen to everybody gives advice,
listen to your own advice. And the first thing to
say to yourself is I got to change this. You
have to say, or you might say I'm tired of this,
or you can say this cannot continue, or something's going

(30:34):
to break, and what's going to break is me, and
I'm if I'm broken, I can't. No one's coming faithfully
to help me store my house up, no one's helping
me with my supply. I'm not getting a reply. I'm
not getting a reply. I can't trust on this woman,

(30:55):
I can't trust on this guy.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Just isn't the truth that I'm living? This is all
just a lie.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
I ask myself a thousand times, why should I laugh
with joy, step away from my shortcomings? Or should I cry?
So what we have to do is listen to the
honest truth of where we are. Let's take our brokenness
to a better place. Let's drag ourselves to the hospital.

(31:21):
Let's drag ourselves to the pulpit, Let's drag ourselves. Let's
let's take a journey. Let's listen to the travels of
our life with our eyes closed at night when the
tears are streaming down our face. Whether you're inside the
prison cell or you're inside the cellular structure that we
call this the physical framework of our body. You know,
are we drinking alcohol?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Are we open?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Are we interacting with people sexually, spiritually, emotionally in a
way that's broken? When have we had enough because the
body tells us when it's too late. The mind cannot
tell us because we've lost the mind.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
If we don't fix it.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
We can lose the time.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
But if God shows up, it.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Is a merciful change. It is through the throes of death,
mental illness, drug addiction, hurt spirit, living in the streets,
not living well, being so tired. We got to get
to it before God gets to it, and we can
hear him. We ignore him. But when we ignore ourselves,

(32:26):
because you know God's wrath, he gives us this amazing,
graceful god mercy, divine mercy is graceful mercy. But we
can't give ourselves mercy. So when we're ignoring God, when
we hear his voice, when we see the devil's on
this side, God's on this side, we stay inside ourselves
or we don't go to him. We better hear ourselves.
That's the hardest turn. If you get the opportunity to

(32:49):
change hisself first, you can.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Bring God a better problem forth with yes, yes, yes,
so true, so true.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I always say, you know, looking at that man or
woman in the mirror, you know what I'm saying. To
build yourself up so that you can uh, because you
can't help nobody if you a mess. You know, That's
why I asked that question, because you know, I called
myself building myself up, glad and building myself up. And
you know, you sometimes you take you think you take

(33:22):
a two steps forward and you're going back you know,
five steps, you know, and and and you just it's
just a very very uh, uncomfortable atmosphere to be it,
you know what I'm saying, Because you when you think
you're doing something and this, you find that, wow, did
I really change?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
You know?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
And and just how much and how much is needed
to help the next man? You know, it's it's as
a Christian, it's challenges. There's those challenges that you know,
we we kind of question oftentimes. But you know, praise God.
Praise God for ministry uh uh for organizations that meet

(34:02):
the community need.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
And that is you.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
That is you.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
And I'm so proud of you. Every time I look
at you, know all that you're doing. You know, I'm
even prouder because you you rich. You know what I'm saying.
You got money, you know, and you got wealth, you
know what I'm saying. And I don't get the chance
to often talk to talk to people you know on
that level, and I just thank you for being reachable,
you know, because it's important that you you be reachable

(34:31):
for the community so that they you know, they know
that you're there, and the listeners are being blessed. I'm
being blessed to know that you are reachable. You've been
in this thing for a minute, and you know what
it is to reach out, to reach out and be there,
be that sound board that people often time need to

(34:51):
go from elevation to elevation in him and keeping it
about him. So I just thank you just for being
that You've been that for me in the past. I
love the fact that, you know, we worked on on
projects and I pray that we could work on something
you know.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
In the future.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
You you were there for me in my in my beginnings,
you know, my, my, my beginnings, you were right there,
you know. And and I thank you, you know, for
for taking a chance on little O me at that time,
who knew nothing about this business, you know what I'm saying.
And I had to go through the bumps, the bumps
to learn, as you well know, you know. But bless

(35:33):
God that you all the knowledge that you've learned.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
And God has.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Bestowed in you. You have been there to give it back,
you know, because some people just be straight up cocky
when they got all this and that be it knowledge,
be it money, be it whatever. You know what I'm saying.
But you you're just so open with the way you're
you're you're speaking and stuff. If there's someone out there listening,

(35:58):
and I know there is, what is something that you
would leave with them? Something a word, a phrase, or
you know, just something your author so it could be
something from a book that you wrote. Yeah, what would
you leave with them?

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I'd like to give a tool to anybody that hiss
us both, you know, communities, everything.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I've watched this lady again. She's downplaying you people. She's
a part of.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Music history, house music, legend, dance, and you know she's
doing amazing stuff and gospel and by the gift of songs.
How we found each other, but now here we are
years later, look at expressing our testimonies and sharing our
lives together. There's somebody in your current life that you
need to meet up again with. And when you meet

(36:51):
make sure you're going to reinstitute, You're going to reclaim
or re introduce the better, greater.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
You in order to break the chain.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
People there needs to be disciplined. If you're drinking too much,
sleeping too much, eating too much, complaining too much, if
you're tired, if there's something you can't get clarity in
your mind, start with one thing. If you binge, watch TV,
watch one show. If you're always on your phone, fight

(37:21):
and struggle or put it to sleep.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
When you go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
If you know you need to lose weight or get healthy,
or you have sugared onset diabetes, focus on one great
thing and beat it. Because these habits that we think
are ruling us are fooling us. Once you break a
habit and change a habitual or a familiar pattern, if

(37:45):
you disrupt it, the brain will not connotake or request it.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
The body will crave it. But if the mind does not.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Embrace it, it will release it. Then you replace it
with a different behavior. So, hey, I can't walk three
five miles a day, walk half a mile, walking steps
and extra steps every day. Use the stairs, you know,
if you go into the mall, walk all through the mall.
Fight to let something go and fight the hold onto

(38:15):
something to replace it.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
That's better.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
So deep, that's deep, that's deep.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, that that's a word right there, because I know
I bought you know, it's one step at a time, planning,
one step at the time.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
That's okay, that's okay, you know, one step at a time.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I mean that I appreciate this, this interview here because
it's reaching into the depths of you know, me, you know,
and I'm sure so many others you know that. You know,
you think, like I said, you think you're moving forward,
and sometimes you just tend to go back because you
had mastered what you need to master to go to
that next level. And I you know, again, I I

(39:02):
just thank you for being so so profound in this
and so transparent in this interview, because that's what we
need oftentimes, our people need to hear that, uh the
truth you know, and and how it's bridged and and
and and to take you to where you are today

(39:24):
and in as far as community building and being that
uh man, wonderful man of God that you are today.
And then again, I just thank you, thank you. I
mean it, I don't know how many times you hear that,
because when you're busy sometimes you can't often hear that.
So I'm saying in loud and proud. I am proud
of you all that God is doing in you and

(39:45):
birthing through you to help his community of people. And
for that is why you're being blessed. I know that
there's that there's not a question, you know. So I
just again think you got me about to drop tears
because I love you. It has been so long and
I feel so honored to have you on this platform

(40:07):
to bless us, you know, to listen to all that
God has brought you through and he's taking you still too.
And this at this time, you know, coming out of
COVID and coming out of so many storms that we've
we're we've been in and it just keeps on going.
But praise God for steadfastness, right and and just being

(40:30):
diligent in what you believe and where God has called
you to. So thank you, my brother. I so appreciate it.
I have to uh say this, you know, regarding your
your author, you know, I just want to know all
the information that you gave. How can people get your books?

(40:52):
Do you have anything new things that you know that
they can reach as far as you being an author,
because there are some people out there that may want
to be an author and really just don't understand what
it takes or how to get there. What would you
say or what is there a book that you'd recommend?
You know, because I know they're inspiring, they're inspirational and

(41:14):
possibly and I know this because of all that you're saying.
Now you know, a teach book, something that they can
grab a hold to, other than of course we know
the book, the main book right, the Bible. But you
know with your books, what can they what's a tool
in a book that you've written that they can grab?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
But my brother is one of my favorite books is
Ralph Ellison's and Somebody Else As an Invisible Man. It
talks about the trials and the trails of a man.
More specifically, it speaks to what it's like to see
the world from inside the eyes of a black man
in the fifties, the forties, the twenties. You can put
it to any time, and it even comes till today.
I think that's one the book of the Book of God,

(41:59):
what name you call it, whatever covers on it, search
to it. You'll hear God through the words, through the scribe,
through the teachings. And then I think, lastly, write your
own book. People, we're writing our own we're writing it
every day. We're writing every day our spine and the book.
Yeah yeah, then our journey, our journey of the chapters,

(42:21):
and you know, the cover and the jacket is the
completing of telling the story. So journal it's a good
way to help with anxiety and nervousness and mental illness
and trauma. So writes your book. If people need any help,
they can find me on social media. If I can
be of inspiration, or if there's a good word that

(42:42):
I can share, I'm more than happy to guide you.
If I'm not the one to help, maybe point in
the direction that you need to be and that's Toby
Doctor Glenoby dot com, d R G.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
L E n N t vy dot com.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Or you can DM me on Insta or any of
the other platforms and we'll guide you to our book
Bank Institute Online or book Bank Foundation or any of
the other ones. Have any collective information, I'm happy to
share it. Well, you're such a.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Beautiful red God bless you. You are just amazed and
just more and more amazing, you know, And like I said,
it's definitely been too long. We definitely need to, you know,
get together. I'm out in Pennsylvania now, but I definitely
would love to find time to meet with you and
just getting in your in your atmosphere because you're just

(43:38):
a wonderful man. I'm feeling it all the way over
here and we ain't even together, so you know, I
just again thank you for embracing because Listeners, he embraced
me at a time that I didn't even know what
being a singer was all about, and and at oftentimes
you know, just been met misled, but he was a
He's a leading force in all that I know and

(44:02):
what I've learned about this industry, you know, the bumps
and the bruises that you know, the industry has bestowed
upon most artists. But I just want to thank you
for always being there, you know, even at a distance,
just going on your Facebook page, going on your Instagram
page and just seeing you inspire you know, you know,

(44:24):
it's just so wonderful to be able to just bring
you to the Listeners because they needed someone like you
to come and just introduce what real ministry is all about,
what real teaching is all about, and what real entrepreneurship
is all about. It's being reachable, It's being accessible to

(44:48):
those that are in need and that need your help,
and believe it or not, you're reaching into the depths
of the souls of the listeners and I just bless
the God in you for allowing that presence, you know,
to be felt. This platform is about bridging the gaps

(45:09):
between communities of people, bringing people together, because that's what
it's about. And I truly believe that God has blessed
us on today and that is what the doctor ordered
and that just again education on top of education, and
bless you. And I'm so proud of you being a
doctor a doctor, so you know, people know that whatever

(45:33):
you want to do you can. You just have to
be you just have to be sounding and trying to
find out who you are and be the best you
that you can be. Bless you, my brother. We usually
end with prayer, and you know, I you know, if
you feel led, I would appreciate you to pray us out.

(45:54):
It's not just give a wonderful word that and you've
been given that all this interview through what I'm just saying.
We usually and we're just you know, giving the listeners
a little something. And I would not leave this platform
with you without you doing that.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Grandfather God, We ask you to measure our walks, prepare
our steps, receive the goodness and us Father God, keep
the connection between us and you. Let us be the
definition of the divinity that you give us and grace
us with. We ask you Father for humility. Get us
back into the basics, Get us into the yield in

(46:30):
the field, so we can be the seeding the truth.
Not be enamored by the conditions of change, not be
withered by the weather or beat down or those that
take some of our gifts. But we just remain in
the cycle of grace and goodness. It's untouched no matter
how they touch.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Us in spirit, mind, body, or flesh. And aim we
pray men.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
The men, Amen, Amen, Yes, Yes, you're wonderful.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
I love you, don'd doctor.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm so proud of you. Thank God you just is
there anything you don't do? You know, you're just amazing
and I know there's so much much much more coming
and we're gonna be right there in the cut looking
and watching you. And again, I just want to offer
this as an open door policy. You can come back
anytime that you need to use this platform to get

(47:23):
your your mission, uh, you know, across to the to
the people listen as you've been blessed by this doctor
five Glenn Toby right here, who is reachable. He's left
all his information. I will share it on my page
as well as I do every time we have a
wonderful guest on, just so that you can reach out

(47:45):
to him. Again. I try not to bring people that
are not reachable, people that will not call you back,
that will not contact you back. Yes, he's busy, but
he is reachable. And I bless God that I'm able
to say that, you know, to the listeners, And again,
thank you for this platform, Jerry Royce Positive Power twenty

(48:07):
one who brings this and helps me to bring this
through for God every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time,
you know, and today again has been a blessing, uplifting
and motivational experience. And I just thank you Glad always,

(48:29):
and I tell you it's an open door policy. I
will call you back soon, so definitely be prepared. God,
bless you, God blessed.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Okay you shout out to Jerry for the great platform,
and thank you for Jay.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
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Speaker 4 (49:17):
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