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The testimony, the testimony, the testimony with Paula Freea, the
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and not he spends then the time you are listening
to the testimony with hope, k an deeper more Christ.
And in case you don't know what that stands for,
it's the finely inspired vessel appoints it and anointed for a.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Time such as this.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Hey, every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You don't want to miss.
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Good God, bless you, God, bless you, God bless you. Yes,
it's me the Deva for Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes, Ms. Paula Brion and I bring it to you
every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time. Without a
shadow of doubts, we go and do nothing on this
platform until we go to the throne of God. Oh Father, God,
thank you, thank you for another opportunity to bring this wonderful,
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wonderful show your show Lord to the listeners. Lord, you
have your way in this platform as you do every
Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time. You always show
up and show out, and we're just so blessed for
that opportunity for people, the listeners, your people, Lord, to
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get a feel of just what your kingdom builders are
doing today and today of course will be no different.
We asked that you would just do it, Lord, do it,
do it, Do it in the precious name above all names,
Jesus Christ, A man a' men a men, Yes, we
all fire to day. Oh, another Tuesday. I just thank
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you just for allowing me, Lord to open my eyes
and just be able to speak to all the wonderful
listeners out there, you know, thank you for coming back
and not finding a robbery to be on this platform
on a Tuesday. You could have been anywhere, but to
be here listening to us, and I just thank you
so much again, another uplifting show that we are gonna
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bring the best in music, in community and ministry and
just bring it all together under one fold for one
reason under God. For that person that does not understand
this show, that is what this platform is all about.
It's about the test that we go through in life,
all of us, that bring us to a rich testimony
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so we can talk about just how God is so
good to us and been so good to us, and
where we going and how He's leading us and all
that wonderful stuff that makes ministry.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
What it is.
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But we have a man of God on this line. Oh,
another a wonderful guest that I always bring to the listeners,
And this one is very near and dear to me
because it's music related and I love my music platforms.
And he's a produce, he's a songwriter, he's a lyricist.
He is a drummer, and he goes by the name
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of Peter Parris. Is he on the line, Well, he's
out there yet, but I know he's coming, you know,
so you know how we do. I'm gonna talk about
him a little bit more. He has been around, he's
been on the road. He's been with various groups like
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you know, just I ain't even gonna blow it up yet.
I'm gonna let him blow it up so that he
can tell you exactly what he's doing. But he is
truly a man of God. He's been in ministry after ministry,
going from church to church offering his gifts of drumming.
He is a drummer as they said back in the day,
give the drummer song. You know what I'm saying, And
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you know that that could have went left for some folk,
but we know what we mean by that. We're gonna
give him his props on today and allow you to
get introduced to this wonderful man and of God.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
He is.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Like he just has so many different aspects of how
he does what he does, and again we try to
bring that uniqueness to this platform just so you can
get an understanding of what it is to be in ministry,
in music ministry particularly. He has been a music director,
he has led so many different platforms and I know
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he just got so much, so much, so much to
talk to you about. Is my brother on the line?
Is we got Peter parents on the line. Peter, where
you at? Come on, Peter, come on. Yeah, he definitely
is on his way. He's been working and doing a
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lot of stuff on the sides.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
So please please, but just know that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
This and again this testimony walk, this testimony walk that
where we have our tests, the things that are so
rough for us that have just led us from one
thing to the next to where we are in Christ.
And this is such a wonderful thing to talk about,
because people oftentimes feel like, you know, we just know
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it all. We come in knowing we're having a great
relationship with the Lord, and some of us we have
a test, We have things that have taken us through
the highways and the byeways, you know, in life. But
we always understand that at the end of the rainbow,
there's only one reason for the season. Right this is
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there are only one reason, and that's Jesus Christ, our
Lord and Savior, that keeps us for times such as this.
So I just want you to relax in this cut
with what we're doing. You know, we do it every
Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time, and today will
be no different. We aim to inspire, We aim to
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lift you up just a little higher and make you
understand why we choose to follow the Lord and all
the things, the wonderful things and platforms that he bestows
upon us when we are called to him to do
a service. So and today again it's not gonna be
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any different. It's not gonna be any different. Do we
got Peter on the line? Come on, Peter, come on,
come on, I tell you the phones have been acting up.
I gotta say that he's not one. I just spoke
to him, so I know it's got to be a
phone issue or something that he's going through. But we
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believe God, and we trust God. I'm gonna reach out
to my tech guy. You know, you got anything that
these wonderful listeners can listen to until Peter comes on
the line. You got Jerry Royce in the background doing
this thing like you always do. Positive Power twenty one, always.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
There for me, Garry.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You got anything we could play? Let the listeners hear.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Well.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You know you know Congress past the law you can't
play music on podcasts.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
It could it could be It.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Could be anything, bro, it could be set talk about
what you're doing? What about that?
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Well, you actually call me in the middle of in
the middle of something. Anyway, Hello, everybody. You know I
don't share too much until the projects are out there.
You know, you know how people be hating. But anyway,
think everybody for us sticking around and for those who've
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and and we glad you guys have been around, especially
especially those who are been downloading the podcasts and animal
on air on that show programming, especially overseas well, I
think you guys in the queue, let's see if this
is him.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yep, this is him.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
There you go, all right, all right, Hey Het Peter,
Hete Peter. I was wonderful. I was telling them the listeners,
I know, my boy go beyond because I just was
speaking to her. I know he's gonna be on and this. Yeah,
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I'm doing good.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
You know. I just I bigged you up.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I told him all the wonderful accolades.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Plus something I'm sure you're gonna share with them are
things that you've been doing as a.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Musician, uh, and a musician uh in excellence. I should say,
you know, you've been doing this for a long time.
And I just got to ask the question like I
asked every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern standardown on the testimony, How.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Did it begin for you, Peter?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
How did this walk begin for you?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Well before they begin A long time ago? I say, well, yeah,
I'm gonna tell you A long time ago. I was
watching Little Anthony and the Imperials on TV. But you
know that's a long time and I watched it. I
looked at the drummer. For some reason, I focused on
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the drummer and I focused on his Oh they called
him side socks, we called him high hats. The two
symbols that then sit on the rep on the side
of the drums. And this thing was going up and
down and I just didn't understand how it was doing that.
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I just kept looking at it. And then they changed
speeds and the guy was still there on time, but
as it was there pedals behind drums and I never knew.
So when I when I so my first set of drums,
I went nuts. I just loved it, loved it, loved it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, that's I mean, that's that's something else because I
I don't have a lot of musicians per se that
come on this platform. They're usually doing other stuff and
they don't really sink into them being a piano player
or or a bassist or something, you know. So it's
just rewarding to hear how that begins for you, just
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just just actually sitting and watching in the in the
addictive things and trying to figure it out that is.
That is wonderful. That is wonderful. So that just actually
made you want to get up and get on some drums.
That like like because you you know, I know people
that their kids are into drumming and they like banged
doing anything and on everything. You know, to be to
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be honest with you, was you one of those kind
of kids bang doing everything?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I I I and in the kitchen and seem coming
and just beat me. And I was, I was, I
was the smart kid. And I kept saying, this time,
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she's not gonna hear me, but you're banging on pots
and fans looking to hear you. You're very loud. So
I asked my mother. I said, my you know I
I want to play drums. She said, you want to play? What?
I said, Uh, I want to play drums. Ma. She says,
oh no, we'll all no. I said, I need to
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tell of drums. So she tells me that's my father.
I think I was in about the fifth grade and
I asked my father. I said, man, I like to
have some drums, and to my surprise, he said yes.
And that's where it started. I've been playing drums for
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fifty five years. Wow, that's that's time.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
That's time vested. That's time vested. And and that's how
I was with the singing thing. It just for something
that just came natural for me. So I truly understand.
And it's so rewarding to have a musician that can
understand what it is to that music thing. When it
kicks in, it just has legs of its own and
it does and it leads you on its own accord
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and and you know, go from one place to the other.
What I mean, you know listeners are out there, you
know they've got this experience. What what did What would
you suggest basically to the listener who may feel it
they're drama and they would like to go into this
world like what what are some key things that you
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would give them in today's world? Because the music thing
and and and and everything has changed so much, especially
since the pandemic. So what advice would you actually give
to a listener that wants to it in sigomy?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Well, if you if you if you want to be
a drummer, first thing, I would suggest that you get
a good teacher and learn how to read music, if
you really want to take it seriously, to learn how
to read drum music. Sometimes people don't always learn how
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to read first. They go out in the expressment they
give with other musicians and you play, and you learn things.
You learn as you go, and that was a round
that I took well. By fourteen years old, I was
playing in the group I want with my friends to
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an audition. I just sit in my basement and play
with records. I want my friends to an audition. And
the guy ended up asking me to play, and I
played drum for him and I got into a group. Now,
of course I was playing in clubs, and I wasn't
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supposed to play in clubs. I was about fourteen fifteen
years old, and I was making money playing drums and
I liked it, so I kept at it, just kept
at it. I suggest that if you want to be
a drummer, you can't give up because very it's at
the beginning of learning drums. Your coordination A lot a
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lot of people have coordination to play drums, and you
have to be persistent. You have to keep going, don't
give up. It's very frustrating in the beginning, but after
your body, your body gets used to it.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, that that drumming team, you definitely got to be coordinated,
have that at all. You know what I'm saying. I
get on somebody drugs that it be a best, it
be a best you really gotta know, you gotta know
that thing, and you are absolutely right with that. What
schools did you go to did you go to any schools?
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And in the schools that you went to, were you
instrumental in their music department or at all? And what
kind of training maybe if you've had any other than
the grass group, because you speak on terms of learning
how to read music and no notes, and that goes
hand in hand. And a lot of people don't even
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think that that goes hand in hand, you know, they
don't equate a drum set, you know, and reading with
keyboarders or or or bass play. It's really weird. No
one thinks that you guys read music. So what what
led you even to want to read music opposed to
just playing well?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I was. I went to Brooklyn Tech High School in Brooklyn.
Was very big on music, big on academics, but not
big on music. I grew up in Flatbush and I
had a friend, his name was Boss, and he lived
on Rugging Road and I just heard these drums going
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out of the basement. He had a set of drums.
I lived in an apartment. His brother went to music
school in Boston. The brother would go up learned stuff
to come back and kind of got his second hand
from Keith Walner, and he was teaching the stuff that
they were teaching him in Boston. So down the block
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there was a guy. There was a teacher, mister Mantley.
He was ahead of bookman choirs. And his son, Michael,
was a drummer and he could read. And I took
lessons from Michael. Wow my younger years, it took lesson
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from Michael Michael Morley. Then after that i'd started just
you know, you got you gotta get the child, so
you gotta go from musicians to musician to musician. And luckily,
at about fourteen fifteen, I ran into a guy, Dennis Davis.
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So I don't know if you ever heard of Dennis Davis. No, no, Well,
Dennis Davis, says a drummer. He played for four years.
He played for He played for David Bowie, he played
for Stevie Wonder. I mean you heard him all. He
played Do I Do? And oh Stevie Wonder. That was
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my teacher. He came under his wing at fifteen years old,
and I had to go up to Harlem actually running
from this guy. Fantastic drummer fantastic drummer.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He had songs, you name it. They some songs, the
ain't no a little bit of something something Max laugh, Oh.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
My gosh, oh yeah. Everybody thought he was a Jamaican guy.
He's not. He's from downtown. Just a fantastic drummer. He
played on playing records. Let's get serious with Jermaine Jackson.
I could just keep let oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was nice enough to take me on his wing.
He didn't, he didn't have to. But he played drums
like I never name. He's known from Max Rotes and
Alvin Jones. Right, he's a jazz yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Max wrote my My believe it or not. My mother's
brother had learned drums from Max.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yep yep. Definitely serious musicians. Uh yeah. And then I
was playing different clubs. I was, of course, I was
under raised. I had to sneak in, but I was
fortunate enough to playing clubs where the polls were so uh.
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My group was named Weblock. Back in the days half
of a Machine. They had a group of machine and
they split and one became Wedlock and one stayed machine.
I don't know if you ever enable for the Great
of God.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
On the other side. Okay, So I uh, I was
just just I wanted to make it. I wanted to
I wanted to make a record. This was my goal.
I wanted to make a record. I wanted to make
a record. Went to the studio, didn't happen, and so
the ass I decided to go to the Air Force.
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But before I got there, I was there before Times Royeas,
all these people I watched Edwin Starr, Alton McClain AND's Destiny.
Uh well, I was a lot of these pros were
coming to Brooklyn and the club named Xanadu downtown Brooklyn. Yeah,
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and I remember that we opened up Ronnie Dyson. We
opened up for all these people and I was able
to watch these pros as a young kid and see
how it was done. I you know, and that that
gave me an incentive and it also taught me a
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lot of things that I needed to be an expert
from the young kid. So when I didn't make a record,
I left. I went to the Air Force, and but
my love for drums didn't dwindle there. So I got
into uh Elematic training in Texas and I went to
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drum and Google went from dr in Texas and then
when I went to tech school, drummer Google again, and
then they sent me overseas. They wanted me to be
in the Air Force band in the Pacific. That was
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great doing those things, marching and playing, but playing one drum.
But I wanted to play traps and that was my
That's where my my interests lied and I wanted to
play traps at So when I got out of the
Air Force, I decided I wanted to go on and
be a musician. That's what I wanted to do, and
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that's what I did. I want from place to play
plane plan, plain plan, everywhere I could, every chance I
god out of you know, bless God because.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That that I don't mean to cut you. But that
is a unique story in itself because most people go
to the military and they don't get into it. It's
really and I think you can attest to it. It's
not easy to play play for them bands in the military.
They have their chosen vote that they that they usually
want in there. So just to mere fact that they
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welcomed you into that platform is just a blessing in itself.
You know, you don't hear too many people say that
that they started in the military, and they sang or
they played an instrument in that setting because and I
know it's hard. I know it's hard to get in there.
So that was nothing but a blessing from God that
that you would be welcomed in and your hunger to
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want to play drums, you know what I'm saying. And
God lead you that way because you you definitely with
with the military, you definitely going places. You're going from
from state to state, city to city. So I'm sure
you you I mean to have a tour like that,
you know, underneath your belt was just a blessing. It's
such a blessing to hear that, you know, because again
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oftentimes we don't we don't hear that, and and and
and the musicians coming in through that way, you know
what I'm saying. So thank you for sharing that that.
That's just amazing. I know the listeners is like, wow,
you know what I'm saying, because when you think people
go to military lasting you're thinking that they're in the
band or they joining up for those kind of things,
you know, So that that's just beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Peter seriously, Well and then no, no, no, there was
intent to do that. I first got into the military.
I got there and I had a sergeant, a sergeant handcock.
It was a lady and uh, you know, she was
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a can instructor. She was rough. I'm one of my
Air Force bruise quick. And these guys came around and
they said, uh, we can get to your bruise quick,
can you can you can you play an instrument? And
I said yes. And I said, well, if you play
with us, you don't have to march. I said, I
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don't have to match. They said no, and we're gonna
give you your brewe uniforms quickly. So I said that's
for me because I you know, I didn't want to
do all that stuff. So so what they did was
they took us. They said, you know if you if
you lie there, you you're in trouble. Trouble. They took us.
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I said. They put us in a circle and they
gave us music to read. And this is why it
was important for me to read way back when I
was a kid. And they would give you different lines.
You play this, you play that, you play this, and
I could read my part and I was good. I
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was good. There. Every night at about five o'clock we
had what it was called retreat and we would play.
And then of course we were going to parades, like
you said, from place to place to place to place,
and we'd go play parades. When I got out of
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the military, I still wanted to play, so I kept playing.
I kept playing. And that's what it hit me. I said, Uh,
this is going nowhere. I quit. So I actually quit
drums for ten years. Wow. But then I couldn't. The
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music bug is something crazy. It's he said, just keep
coming up. We just keep like digging at me. So
I went and I asked my friend got a friend,
San Johnson, and I asked him. I said, listen, man,
I want to I want to get playing again. What
I gotta do? And that's where it began. And he said, well,
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if you want to play drums, he says, no mad
play like anymore. You got to go to church. I said,
you gotta go where now here. I am a kid
growing up in Catholic school. We have drums in the church.
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We got an organ, really a fulk guitar. I said,
I said, listen, you know, I'm you know, I'm I'm
just coming up the church. What are you talking about?
He said, you want to play? You gotta go to church.
I said, okay, that's right, and I went to church
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and I found out what it was to stay of
the instrument for ten years. You know what happens. You
can't play. Your body's not used to him anymore. I
was mortified. I was said, oh my god, no, so
I'm playing like a six year old. But I'm a man.
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So I had to get back in shape. Yeah, that's scary.
I had to get back in shape. And I went
from church to church to church. And this is gospel. Now.
I heard some gospel, but I never heard name the church.
So I had to start from the very beginning. And
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I'd say the easiest former gospel would be the quartet
this whole time. That's it. They don't You're not fancy,
You're not doing all this thick stuff this whole time.
And I went from there. I just kept playing. I
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went from church to church to church to ch I
must have played in every church in breakfast times. Wow,
trying to be trying to be trying to be a
drummer again. You know. I had to really learn again.
But after a couple of years I got profession and
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then I started playing for the booking Skyways, which they
made a couple of records. Everybody wants to go to Heaven.
I don't know if you're going at too. Yeah. I
would play and shows, well the last album I'm read
the back, that's me Peter Patters. I would get the
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talked to some of the gospel legends, Joe Lagan from
the Mighty Clouds. Uh. You know we've done on a
lot of different programs. Uh. And then the experience that
I got. But what was most important to me. I
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know it's playing gospel, but I'm a Christian. My Christian
war became very very important to me, So I know
that what I was doing was important. And I read
the Bible about levites and stuff like that and how
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they operate, and I got saved. I didn't want to
be just a regular musician because a lot of times
in church, other musicians get a different rap musicians. They
were in there doing this, they're in there doing that.
And he had the old Uh, well Lucifer was a
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musician and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I
plarently be different. Yeah, I wanted to be different. So
I went to Bible school as well, and uh, I
started playing. I made the jump from quartet music to
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contemporary gospel. If you ever went to a contemporary you
ever went to a church, they're playing contemporary gospel. Look
at the drummer, You're not drummer, you want to You're
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really just playing. You can really playing that instrument. And
you know, while you're in church and you're a drummer,
you know, all the boys want to be drummers, right,
And those things leads it leads some people to become
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keyboard players. They're gonna people. A lot of people don't
know that keyboard is a percussion instrument. Pianos a mercussion
instrument because of the mallets when you get those keys,
the mallet moving and people people don't really understand that
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gospel is something that it's something that you want to
put your It's something that you that takes feeling. And
then then the difference in the whole world goes awn
to the gospel musician. And the difference between the gospel
musician and the regular person is the annointing. Yes, yes, so,
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I mean Gods were blessing me all the way meeting him,
blessing me all the way. When I got saved, I
wanted for nothing nothing, And I do mean nothing, food, money, shot, nothing.
And I started meeting a lot of people. I had
a good friend who's deceased now, but his name is
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Jeff Davis, and they called him the godfather of Mardon
gospel drumming. And EA took me on his wing and
I followed. I traveled along with Richard Smallwood and other
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gospel greats, and then I got to know a lot
of people. I was up and down the East coast
like nobody's business for years, up and Downaldly down there,
flying down there. Yeah, wow, you you you're moving now.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You you was on taur. Now you something I'm talking
about being on tour, But you was on taur from
a young age. You know what you've been on the road.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You know they hear go to sy and I know
they got date that most of your artists come from church.
That's a little hermit, that's gloss and a signative kid.
These people have been singing young and it was great
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to find some people that got bitten by the same
bug I did. While your gospel musician. You know they
they you know, people hear you play and it's something
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about you and that's your annoying thing, and then that's
breaking the yolk and people are gonna listen. Something different
about that person. There's something different about that musician who's wonderful.
What does he play like that? Why does it sound
like that? And this is what happens when you have
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the anointing. I had a friend he used to play
for Timothy right. Do you know Timothy right? Of course
you do, yes, yes, definitely. He told me, where before
you play, always pray for the annoyting of God. No
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matter what you do, just just pray for the annoyting.
And I remember, I still remember that he's a bishop now.
He couldn't drum him, but he's a bishop now. In Atlanta,
I got to meet everybody you can bother, you know, wow.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And that. But it is something about that annoying. It
takes what the talent and to get that God has
given you to a whole other level. And I, you know,
I'm like you. I came from that Catholic school background,
so I didn't know nothing about that annointing. I didn't
know nothing about it, you know. But and being in
Bushwick and being raised up in that Brooklyn field. Back
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in those days, they used to have the tents and
I used to love to go to them tent revivals,
you know what I'm saying, And it just felt so good.
The music was just so moving and inspiring, you know, inspirational.
And that was my first real getting to know just
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that that movement, that that thing, that that special thing.
UH didn't know it as annoying. And you know, I
didn't know none of that. As a Catholic girl, you
don't learn none of that, you know what I'm saying.
I went to Catholal school all my life. I I
know about that in my beginning stages. But when I
used to see those tents and they come out and
them preachers be preaching, and the singing was just amazing.
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I always loved to sing, but I never knew that
kind of singing. I only knew about Mahelia Jackson. He
was the big thing, you know, in my home.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
That's all I heard as far as the gospel platform.
So to hear them them churches coming out there and
giving that kind of music and the sound and the
way people used to just gravitate to it and stuff,
you know, So I got to learn it that kind
of way. That's the way I got to learn it
about about that kind of the Gospel. I wasn't uprooted
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and raised so many people I know that came through
the church realm, that kind of church rem and uh
so it's just a blessing to hear you say what
you're saying. You you've had such an experience and with
the Great Peter, not just a little something something when
you say Timothy right when you say, you know, uh,
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we spoke about someone that we both have in common,
you know, with with David, you know, as far as
you know, the every praise guy, you know as what
I call him, the every praise guy, uh practiced. It's
just you know, Hezekia, you know, all these these people,
but you you go back to the grassroot beginnings. You
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know what I'm saying. The people that you've been around
really like they ate, slept, drink that thing.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
So I just so appreciate the fact that you're you're
allowing the listeners to be touched by this experience because you,
like I said, you were torn before you even knew
you was gonna be torn.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You idea of what I was getting into. It took me.
I didn't you know, I didn't just uh think it
took me once it got started. It took real way.
(39:01):
I went to my father. I remember going to my father, said, Dad,
you know, I'm saved now. And he said, what are
you talking about. He said, you're a Catholic. I said, no, Dad,
that's what you chose for me. I'm a grown man
and I'm choosing this for my for myself, so that
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there's a difference. And uh he said, well, you know,
that's what you feel. That's what you feel. I've met
great I've met I've met a lot of well great people,
I mean really really really nice people. A lot of
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people away. I've met Tamela Man, David Mann, and I
grew upgether in the middle of the Brooklyn Sound. And
that's the nineties, in the nineties New York, Brooklyn Well,
James Hall or all that. These guys I had the
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Brooklyn Sound, Melbourne christpol mm hmmm. He wrote, Jesus is
my help? YESHI we had they. David Brandon, my friend
that he passed, Jeff Davis was David Brandon's sable drummer.
M David David, you know, and David Cid Rider and
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David David from California. You know, he was frogman here
wow from California. You know, I know what I'm talking about,
you do you do? So? I know these people. Not
too long ago, I had the great pleasure of playing
with a goop that kind of grew up in in
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my neighborhood in the East New York, Brooklyn Sky. And
they they're just fabbily establish people.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
And they had a real tour in twenty twenty three
and they they got me to play. I played drums
with them all rights talking to YouTube. You can pull
it up, you can see it. It's gott Reunion tour.
You can also see them on on uh uns. They're great.
That's great.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah. Good people, good people you know, just like you
you know, and and good people know good people most times.
You know, you try to keep them around, right.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
The bad people keep good people around here.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
That's right. You gotta you gotta keep them people uh
just near you because you know, you could you could
go left really quick. And we know what that feels like,
you know, so just to know. But but you know,
just everything that you're saying, the listeners are getting a
real impact on what when God is doing something that journey,
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you know, uh, the test that we go through. You
you know, and I had and and and I'm sure
you hit snags, you know, in your growing and in
your learning.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
So I know there's a test right there that takes
you to your testimony. But you know, it's just so
beautiful that God, it's obvious your journey with drumming had
had come with, you know, and it was spearheaded because
you didn't even see it coming. And that's what most
people say when they get into ministry. They didn't even
(42:25):
figure that God was going to use them in that way.
You came from the military band and then you ended
up playing for the church.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
You know, I went backwards. They was telling me, you
went backwards, because here's what happens when you God, when
you play Gospels, usually you go from the church into
the world. I went from the world into the church.
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That was the other one, you know. Calling with God,
I mean calling it God was all my life, and
I didn't realize how strong a calling it was that
I got there. I wanted to play, I wanted to
be on records, and I ended up I wanted to
plase God with my gift given given back, but He's
(43:23):
given me years my you know, anything could have happened
to me through these years anything yep, and she kept
save me my members. I have my limbs. I still
play drums today. Every Sunday, I played drums. That's it.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
That's it, you know, and that and that, like I said,
that's when you know that walk is real and it's
not necessarily being led by you. Like you said, you went.
You went in a way that the average drummer don't
even come in, you know, or the average musicians, it
doesn't come in. And and it's like I said, it's
wanting to hear that and to let the listeners know.
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You know, there's no set way when.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
God is doing it.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
He's just going gonna do it. That's just like me.
You know nothing, that's it.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
He's gonna do it what he wants. You can't, you know.
It's like it's like being a pastor or something and
you try to run, you know, and it's like the
story of job. There's no jobs. Job. You gotta go
over here and do this, and job goes. I'm not
doing it. They got a big fish to carry. Joe
(44:43):
Ship has to do it. So if God has a
calling on your life, you're going to do it. I
don't care what you think you're gonna do. You're gonna
do what he says. I think it's best to do that.
But I think it's best to go God's way. If
you're gonna go anywhere, go God's way.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yeah, that's a that's a message right there, you know
for the average Joe that's just sitting out there and
they don't you know, they may not even know what
that social walk is all about, you know what I'm saying,
or getting to know him.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
But people don't realize, you know, and we hear this
in the church many times, to get to know get
in relationship with the Lord. But you know what, sometimes
it's God that has.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
To get in a relationship with you. People missed that thing.
They so you know, they passing and stuff. They just
quit to say. You know, you want to you want
to get relationship with God, and yes you do, but
sometimes you don't even know what it is to be
in a relationship. I mean, you don't even know what
that looked like. I didn't know what that looked like
to say, to say, oh, I'm a getting relationship with God?
(45:53):
Like what's that? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
I'm sorry about that. I made a slip. I'm sorry
about that. Somebody just call me. That was Jonah in
a decision. Continue. I want to get it right. I
want to get it right.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's right here, my friends, my friends, our friends know.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
That's my my brother, my brother.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
So that that's that's when you're getting it from the best.
That's right. Correction, yeah, but definitely.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Well I'm able to take corrections. That's another thing.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Right. Okay, So I said, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
And all the others that's listened to us and the
other because you know how you know how folks dudes
like man, he didn't even know what he was talking about.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
And then didn't know my word.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
No, no, but no, but listen, but there's always a
ver in the bush baby that's going straight stuffs out
and we thank you, Lewis.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
We think be in that room in the bush. I
tell you, that's fright, that's fright.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
God, Hey, ain't nothing wrong with that, And we allow
it because we want to be in decency in order.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
That's how I always talk about that. You know, you
want to make sure that you leave people and you
leave them in the right way, you know, So praise
God and thank you lou No this. This is good,
good food right here for the listeners. Listeners, you have
been blessed. I'm not gonna let this man go until
he gives the information as to how you know you
(47:37):
could be reached because you are reachable. So listeners, please
take his information down because he will talk to you.
He will, you know, give you the the the experiences
that he has been on and and help you with
your walk if you need. He is reachable, So go on,
give me your information, give me your emails and all
(47:58):
the Facebook and Instagram you know how you would be
be doing well.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
Facebook, you can look up drum Savers on Facebook drumb
Savers or Paris Corp P A R I S C.
Or Peace at gmail dot com. Hit me up and
I'll answer you got a problem.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yes, he is definitely reachable everybody. And you know, I
just again I want to thank you for coming on
this platform and blessing the listeners and myself with all
that knowledge and all that experience and expertise. You know,
I mean, you are the tour. If you're not to
say you are the tour and I would go tease you,
but now I want to re call you the tour
because I ain't hear nobody say the day that went
(48:43):
on tour with so many different facets as you have.
And I just bless God for your experience and the
fact that you're still teachable and teaching, you know, because
we have to keep learning, you know what I'm saying.
That's what makes us who we are, for God, for
us to Him to use us mightily to help the
next man. And I just thank you so much. God
(49:05):
bless you. You are my brother, and I really an
honor to have you. And this is an open door policy.
I'm going to have you to come back every time,
you know, anytime you have something that you want to
talk about, you come on this platform. This is home,
you know, and I just want to welcome you to that, honestly.
Thank you, God, bless you so much. Thank you Jerry
(49:28):
Rod and Positive Power twenty one for bringing this platform
every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time. We don't
count you out because without you, I would not be
here and the listeners would not be blessed from your platform.
So thank you so much. I Peter, anything that you
want to leave for the listeners, one word, a quote,
(49:51):
anything you want.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
To leave with the listeners before we go trus God.
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
That's right then, and there's no and I'll just piggyback
off there there's no map. We don't have a map.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
It's God leading us in every every way.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
We we know.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
You read the Bible, we get knowledge, we get to
know his walk, Jesus walk. And how it you know,
all panned out.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
That is a.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Kind of mappy type of thing. But honestly, when God
has a need for you, he will move you in
ways that you ain't even ready for. You don't even
see it coming. As you've heard in this interview, you've
truly been blessed. Listeners, are this man of God just
richly doing any and all things for God's people and
for God. And I again thank you so much for
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being on this platform.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
I love your beat. Be up Gods you God bless you.
Thank you listening
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And in case you don't know what that stands for,
it's the finely inspired vessel appoints it and anointed for a.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Time such as this.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Hey, every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You don't want to miss.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Good God, bless you, God, bless you, God bless you. Yes,
it's me the Deva for Christ.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes, Ms. Paula Brion and I bring it to you
every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time. Without a
shadow of doubts, we go and do nothing on this
platform until we go to the throne of God. Oh Father, God,
thank you, thank you for another opportunity to bring this wonderful,
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wonderful show your show Lord to the listeners. Lord, you
have your way in this platform as you do every
Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time. You always show
up and show out, and we're just so blessed for
that opportunity for people, the listeners, your people, Lord, to
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get a feel of just what your kingdom builders are
doing today and today of course will be no different.
We asked that you would just do it, Lord, do it,
do it, Do it in the precious name above all names,
Jesus Christ, A man a' men a men, Yes, we
all fire to day. Oh, another Tuesday. I just thank
(02:45):
you just for allowing me, Lord to open my eyes
and just be able to speak to all the wonderful
listeners out there, you know, thank you for coming back
and not finding a robbery to be on this platform
on a Tuesday. You could have been anywhere, but to
be here listening to us, and I just thank you
so much again, another uplifting show that we are gonna
(03:08):
bring the best in music, in community and ministry and
just bring it all together under one fold for one
reason under God. For that person that does not understand
this show, that is what this platform is all about.
It's about the test that we go through in life,
all of us, that bring us to a rich testimony
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so we can talk about just how God is so
good to us and been so good to us, and
where we going and how He's leading us and all
that wonderful stuff that makes ministry.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
But we have a man of God on this line. Oh,
another a wonderful guest that I always bring to the listeners,
And this one is very near and dear to me
because it's music related and I love my music platforms.
And he's a produce, he's a songwriter, he's a lyricist.
He is a drummer, and he goes by the name
(04:08):
of Peter Parris. Is he on the line, Well, he's
out there yet, but I know he's coming, you know,
so you know how we do. I'm gonna talk about
him a little bit more. He has been around, he's
been on the road. He's been with various groups like
(04:29):
you know, just I ain't even gonna blow it up yet.
I'm gonna let him blow it up so that he
can tell you exactly what he's doing. But he is
truly a man of God. He's been in ministry after ministry,
going from church to church offering his gifts of drumming.
He is a drummer as they said back in the day,
give the drummer song. You know what I'm saying, And
(04:50):
you know that that could have went left for some folk,
but we know what we mean by that. We're gonna
give him his props on today and allow you to
get introduced to this wonderful man and of God.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
He is.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Like he just has so many different aspects of how
he does what he does, and again we try to
bring that uniqueness to this platform just so you can
get an understanding of what it is to be in ministry,
in music ministry particularly. He has been a music director,
he has led so many different platforms and I know
(05:28):
he just got so much, so much, so much to
talk to you about. Is my brother on the line?
Is we got Peter parents on the line. Peter, where
you at? Come on, Peter, come on. Yeah, he definitely
is on his way. He's been working and doing a
(05:50):
lot of stuff on the sides.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
So please please, but just know that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
This and again this testimony walk, this testimony walk that
where we have our tests, the things that are so
rough for us that have just led us from one
thing to the next to where we are in Christ.
And this is such a wonderful thing to talk about,
because people oftentimes feel like, you know, we just know
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it all. We come in knowing we're having a great
relationship with the Lord, and some of us we have
a test, We have things that have taken us through
the highways and the byeways, you know, in life. But
we always understand that at the end of the rainbow,
there's only one reason for the season. Right this is
(06:39):
there are only one reason, and that's Jesus Christ, our
Lord and Savior, that keeps us for times such as this.
So I just want you to relax in this cut
with what we're doing. You know, we do it every
Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time, and today will
be no different. We aim to inspire, We aim to
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lift you up just a little higher and make you
understand why we choose to follow the Lord and all
the things, the wonderful things and platforms that he bestows
upon us when we are called to him to do
a service. So and today again it's not gonna be
(07:26):
any different. It's not gonna be any different. Do we
got Peter on the line? Come on, Peter, come on,
come on, I tell you the phones have been acting up.
I gotta say that he's not one. I just spoke
to him, so I know it's got to be a
phone issue or something that he's going through. But we
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believe God, and we trust God. I'm gonna reach out
to my tech guy. You know, you got anything that
these wonderful listeners can listen to until Peter comes on
the line. You got Jerry Royce in the background doing
this thing like you always do. Positive Power twenty one, always.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
There for me, Garry.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You got anything we could play? Let the listeners hear.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Well.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You know you know Congress past the law you can't
play music on podcasts.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
It could it could be It.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Could be anything, bro, it could be set talk about
what you're doing? What about that?
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Well, you actually call me in the middle of in
the middle of something. Anyway, Hello, everybody. You know I
don't share too much until the projects are out there.
You know, you know how people be hating. But anyway,
think everybody for us sticking around and for those who've
been falling part our Positive Power since twenty thirteen, they
know how we've been putting out some very good content
(08:43):
and and we glad you guys have been around, especially
especially those who are been downloading the podcasts and animal
on air on that show programming, especially overseas well, I
think you guys in the queue, let's see if this
is him.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yep, this is him.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
There you go, all right, all right, Hey Het Peter,
Hete Peter. I was wonderful. I was telling them the listeners,
I know, my boy go beyond because I just was
speaking to her. I know he's gonna be on and this. Yeah,
(09:20):
I'm doing good.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
You know. I just I bigged you up.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I told him all the wonderful accolades.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Plus something I'm sure you're gonna share with them are
things that you've been doing as a.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Musician, uh, and a musician uh in excellence. I should say,
you know, you've been doing this for a long time.
And I just got to ask the question like I
asked every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern standardown on the testimony, How.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Did it begin for you, Peter?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
How did this walk begin for you?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Well before they begin A long time ago? I say, well, yeah,
I'm gonna tell you A long time ago. I was
watching Little Anthony and the Imperials on TV. But you
know that's a long time and I watched it. I
looked at the drummer. For some reason, I focused on
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the drummer and I focused on his Oh they called
him side socks, we called him high hats. The two
symbols that then sit on the rep on the side
of the drums. And this thing was going up and
down and I just didn't understand how it was doing that.
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I just kept looking at it. And then they changed
speeds and the guy was still there on time, but
as it was there pedals behind drums and I never knew.
So when I when I so my first set of drums,
I went nuts. I just loved it, loved it, loved it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well, that's I mean, that's that's something else because I
I don't have a lot of musicians per se that
come on this platform. They're usually doing other stuff and
they don't really sink into them being a piano player
or or a bassist or something, you know. So it's
just rewarding to hear how that begins for you, just
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just just actually sitting and watching in the in the
addictive things and trying to figure it out that is.
That is wonderful. That is wonderful. So that just actually
made you want to get up and get on some drums.
That like like because you you know, I know people
that their kids are into drumming and they like banged
doing anything and on everything. You know, to be to
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be honest with you, was you one of those kind
of kids bang doing everything?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I I I and in the kitchen and seem coming
and just beat me. And I was, I was, I
was the smart kid. And I kept saying, this time,
(12:07):
she's not gonna hear me, but you're banging on pots
and fans looking to hear you. You're very loud. So
I asked my mother. I said, my you know I
I want to play drums. She said, you want to play? What?
I said, Uh, I want to play drums. Ma. She says,
oh no, we'll all no. I said, I need to
(12:30):
tell of drums. So she tells me that's my father.
I think I was in about the fifth grade and
I asked my father. I said, man, I like to
have some drums, and to my surprise, he said yes.
And that's where it started. I've been playing drums for
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fifty five years. Wow, that's that's time.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
That's time vested. That's time vested. And and that's how
I was with the singing thing. It just for something
that just came natural for me. So I truly understand.
And it's so rewarding to have a musician that can
understand what it is to that music thing. When it
kicks in, it just has legs of its own and
it does and it leads you on its own accord
(13:25):
and and you know, go from one place to the other.
What I mean, you know listeners are out there, you
know they've got this experience. What what did What would
you suggest basically to the listener who may feel it
they're drama and they would like to go into this
world like what what are some key things that you
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would give them in today's world? Because the music thing
and and and and everything has changed so much, especially
since the pandemic. So what advice would you actually give
to a listener that wants to it in sigomy?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Well, if you if you if you want to be
a drummer, first thing, I would suggest that you get
a good teacher and learn how to read music, if
you really want to take it seriously, to learn how
to read drum music. Sometimes people don't always learn how
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to read first. They go out in the expressment they
give with other musicians and you play, and you learn things.
You learn as you go, and that was a round
that I took well. By fourteen years old, I was
playing in the group I want with my friends to
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an audition. I just sit in my basement and play
with records. I want my friends to an audition. And
the guy ended up asking me to play, and I
played drum for him and I got into a group. Now,
of course I was playing in clubs, and I wasn't
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supposed to play in clubs. I was about fourteen fifteen
years old, and I was making money playing drums and
I liked it, so I kept at it, just kept
at it. I suggest that if you want to be
a drummer, you can't give up because very it's at
the beginning of learning drums. Your coordination A lot a
(15:35):
lot of people have coordination to play drums, and you
have to be persistent. You have to keep going, don't
give up. It's very frustrating in the beginning, but after
your body, your body gets used to it.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, that that drumming team, you definitely got to be coordinated,
have that at all. You know what I'm saying. I
get on somebody drugs that it be a best, it
be a best you really gotta know, you gotta know
that thing, and you are absolutely right with that. What
schools did you go to did you go to any schools?
(16:14):
And in the schools that you went to, were you
instrumental in their music department or at all? And what
kind of training maybe if you've had any other than
the grass group, because you speak on terms of learning
how to read music and no notes, and that goes
hand in hand. And a lot of people don't even
(16:35):
think that that goes hand in hand, you know, they
don't equate a drum set, you know, and reading with
keyboarders or or or bass play. It's really weird. No
one thinks that you guys read music. So what what
led you even to want to read music opposed to
just playing well?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I was. I went to Brooklyn Tech High School in Brooklyn.
Was very big on music, big on academics, but not
big on music. I grew up in Flatbush and I
had a friend, his name was Boss, and he lived
on Rugging Road and I just heard these drums going
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out of the basement. He had a set of drums.
I lived in an apartment. His brother went to music
school in Boston. The brother would go up learned stuff
to come back and kind of got his second hand
from Keith Walner, and he was teaching the stuff that
they were teaching him in Boston. So down the block
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there was a guy. There was a teacher, mister Mantley.
He was ahead of bookman choirs. And his son, Michael,
was a drummer and he could read. And I took
lessons from Michael. Wow my younger years, it took lesson
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from Michael Michael Morley. Then after that i'd started just
you know, you got you gotta get the child, so
you gotta go from musicians to musician to musician. And luckily,
at about fourteen fifteen, I ran into a guy, Dennis Davis.
(18:25):
So I don't know if you ever heard of Dennis Davis. No, no, Well,
Dennis Davis, says a drummer. He played for four years.
He played for He played for David Bowie, he played
for Stevie Wonder. I mean you heard him all. He
played Do I Do? And oh Stevie Wonder. That was
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my teacher. He came under his wing at fifteen years old,
and I had to go up to Harlem actually running
from this guy. Fantastic drummer fantastic drummer.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He had songs, you name it. They some songs, the
ain't no a little bit of something something Max laugh, Oh.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
My gosh, oh yeah. Everybody thought he was a Jamaican guy.
He's not. He's from downtown. Just a fantastic drummer. He
played on playing records. Let's get serious with Jermaine Jackson.
I could just keep let oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It was nice enough to take me on his wing.
He didn't, he didn't have to. But he played drums
like I never name. He's known from Max Rotes and
Alvin Jones. Right, he's a jazz yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Max wrote my My believe it or not. My mother's
brother had learned drums from Max.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yep yep. Definitely serious musicians. Uh yeah. And then I
was playing different clubs. I was, of course, I was
under raised. I had to sneak in, but I was
fortunate enough to playing clubs where the polls were so uh.
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My group was named Weblock. Back in the days half
of a Machine. They had a group of machine and
they split and one became Wedlock and one stayed machine.
I don't know if you ever enable for the Great
of God.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
On the other side. Okay, So I uh, I was
just just I wanted to make it. I wanted to
I wanted to make a record. This was my goal.
I wanted to make a record. I wanted to make
a record. Went to the studio, didn't happen, and so
the ass I decided to go to the Air Force.
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But before I got there, I was there before Times Royeas,
all these people I watched Edwin Starr, Alton McClain AND's Destiny.
Uh well, I was a lot of these pros were
coming to Brooklyn and the club named Xanadu downtown Brooklyn. Yeah,
(21:25):
and I remember that we opened up Ronnie Dyson. We
opened up for all these people and I was able
to watch these pros as a young kid and see
how it was done. I you know, and that that
gave me an incentive and it also taught me a
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lot of things that I needed to be an expert
from the young kid. So when I didn't make a record,
I left. I went to the Air Force, and but
my love for drums didn't dwindle there. So I got
into uh Elematic training in Texas and I went to
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drum and Google went from dr in Texas and then
when I went to tech school, drummer Google again, and
then they sent me overseas. They wanted me to be
in the Air Force band in the Pacific. That was
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great doing those things, marching and playing, but playing one drum.
But I wanted to play traps and that was my
That's where my my interests lied and I wanted to
play traps at So when I got out of the
Air Force, I decided I wanted to go on and
be a musician. That's what I wanted to do, and
(22:57):
that's what I did. I want from place to play
plane plan, plain plan, everywhere I could, every chance I
god out of you know, bless God because.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
That that I don't mean to cut you. But that
is a unique story in itself because most people go
to the military and they don't get into it. It's
really and I think you can attest to it. It's
not easy to play play for them bands in the military.
They have their chosen vote that they that they usually
want in there. So just to mere fact that they
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welcomed you into that platform is just a blessing in itself.
You know, you don't hear too many people say that
that they started in the military, and they sang or
they played an instrument in that setting because and I
know it's hard. I know it's hard to get in there.
So that was nothing but a blessing from God that
that you would be welcomed in and your hunger to
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want to play drums, you know what I'm saying. And
God lead you that way because you you definitely with
with the military, you definitely going places. You're going from
from state to state, city to city. So I'm sure
you you I mean to have a tour like that,
you know, underneath your belt was just a blessing. It's
such a blessing to hear that, you know, because again
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oftentimes we don't we don't hear that, and and and
and the musicians coming in through that way, you know
what I'm saying. So thank you for sharing that that.
That's just amazing. I know the listeners is like, wow,
you know what I'm saying, because when you think people
go to military lasting you're thinking that they're in the
band or they joining up for those kind of things,
you know, So that that's just beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Peter seriously, Well and then no, no, no, there was
intent to do that. I first got into the military.
I got there and I had a sergeant, a sergeant handcock.
It was a lady and uh, you know, she was
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a can instructor. She was rough. I'm one of my
Air Force bruise quick. And these guys came around and
they said, uh, we can get to your bruise quick,
can you can you can you play an instrument? And
I said yes. And I said, well, if you play
with us, you don't have to march. I said, I
(25:24):
don't have to match. They said no, and we're gonna
give you your brewe uniforms quickly. So I said that's
for me because I you know, I didn't want to
do all that stuff. So so what they did was
they took us. They said, you know if you if
you lie there, you you're in trouble. Trouble. They took us.
(25:45):
I said. They put us in a circle and they
gave us music to read. And this is why it
was important for me to read way back when I
was a kid. And they would give you different lines.
You play this, you play that, you play this, and
I could read my part and I was good. I
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was good. There. Every night at about five o'clock we
had what it was called retreat and we would play.
And then of course we were going to parades, like
you said, from place to place to place to place,
and we'd go play parades. When I got out of
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the military, I still wanted to play, so I kept playing.
I kept playing. And that's what it hit me. I said, Uh,
this is going nowhere. I quit. So I actually quit
drums for ten years. Wow. But then I couldn't. The
(26:56):
music bug is something crazy. It's he said, just keep
coming up. We just keep like digging at me. So
I went and I asked my friend got a friend,
San Johnson, and I asked him. I said, listen, man,
I want to I want to get playing again. What
I gotta do? And that's where it began. And he said, well,
(27:20):
if you want to play drums, he says, no mad
play like anymore. You got to go to church. I said,
you gotta go where now here. I am a kid
growing up in Catholic school. We have drums in the church.
(27:41):
We got an organ, really a fulk guitar. I said,
I said, listen, you know, I'm you know, I'm I'm
just coming up the church. What are you talking about?
He said, you want to play? You gotta go to church.
I said, okay, that's right, and I went to church
(28:03):
and I found out what it was to stay of
the instrument for ten years. You know what happens. You
can't play. Your body's not used to him anymore. I
was mortified. I was said, oh my god, no, so
I'm playing like a six year old. But I'm a man.
(28:29):
So I had to get back in shape. Yeah, that's scary.
I had to get back in shape. And I went
from church to church to church. And this is gospel. Now.
I heard some gospel, but I never heard name the church.
So I had to start from the very beginning. And
(28:53):
I'd say the easiest former gospel would be the quartet
this whole time. That's it. They don't You're not fancy,
You're not doing all this thick stuff this whole time.
And I went from there. I just kept playing. I
(29:14):
went from church to church to church to ch I
must have played in every church in breakfast times. Wow,
trying to be trying to be trying to be a
drummer again. You know. I had to really learn again.
But after a couple of years I got profession and
(29:36):
then I started playing for the booking Skyways, which they
made a couple of records. Everybody wants to go to Heaven.
I don't know if you're going at too. Yeah. I
would play and shows, well the last album I'm read
the back, that's me Peter Patters. I would get the
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talked to some of the gospel legends, Joe Lagan from
the Mighty Clouds. Uh. You know we've done on a
lot of different programs. Uh. And then the experience that
I got. But what was most important to me. I
(30:22):
know it's playing gospel, but I'm a Christian. My Christian
war became very very important to me, So I know
that what I was doing was important. And I read
the Bible about levites and stuff like that and how
(30:44):
they operate, and I got saved. I didn't want to
be just a regular musician because a lot of times
in church, other musicians get a different rap musicians. They
were in there doing this, they're in there doing that.
And he had the old Uh, well Lucifer was a
(31:06):
musician and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I
plarently be different. Yeah, I wanted to be different. So
I went to Bible school as well, and uh, I
started playing. I made the jump from quartet music to
(31:27):
contemporary gospel. If you ever went to a contemporary you
ever went to a church, they're playing contemporary gospel. Look
at the drummer, You're not drummer, you want to You're
(31:48):
really just playing. You can really playing that instrument. And
you know, while you're in church and you're a drummer,
you know, all the boys want to be drummers, right,
And those things leads it leads some people to become
(32:08):
keyboard players. They're gonna people. A lot of people don't
know that keyboard is a percussion instrument. Pianos a mercussion
instrument because of the mallets when you get those keys,
the mallet moving and people people don't really understand that
(32:33):
gospel is something that it's something that you want to
put your It's something that you that takes feeling. And
then then the difference in the whole world goes awn
to the gospel musician. And the difference between the gospel
musician and the regular person is the annointing. Yes, yes, so,
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I mean Gods were blessing me all the way meeting him,
blessing me all the way. When I got saved, I
wanted for nothing nothing, And I do mean nothing, food, money, shot, nothing.
And I started meeting a lot of people. I had
a good friend who's deceased now, but his name is
(33:24):
Jeff Davis, and they called him the godfather of Mardon
gospel drumming. And EA took me on his wing and
I followed. I traveled along with Richard Smallwood and other
(33:45):
gospel greats, and then I got to know a lot
of people. I was up and down the East coast
like nobody's business for years, up and Downaldly down there,
flying down there. Yeah, wow, you you you're moving now.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
You you was on taur. Now you something I'm talking
about being on tour, But you was on taur from
a young age. You know what you've been on the road.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You know they hear go to sy and I know
they got date that most of your artists come from church.
That's a little hermit, that's gloss and a signative kid.
These people have been singing young and it was great
(34:40):
to find some people that got bitten by the same
bug I did. While your gospel musician. You know they
they you know, people hear you play and it's something
(35:02):
about you and that's your annoying thing, and then that's
breaking the yolk and people are gonna listen. Something different
about that person. There's something different about that musician who's wonderful.
What does he play like that? Why does it sound
like that? And this is what happens when you have
(35:24):
the anointing. I had a friend he used to play
for Timothy right. Do you know Timothy right? Of course
you do, yes, yes, definitely. He told me, where before
you play, always pray for the annoyting of God. No
(35:44):
matter what you do, just just pray for the annoyting.
And I remember, I still remember that he's a bishop now.
He couldn't drum him, but he's a bishop now. In Atlanta,
I got to meet everybody you can bother, you know, wow.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And that. But it is something about that annoying. It
takes what the talent and to get that God has
given you to a whole other level. And I, you know,
I'm like you. I came from that Catholic school background,
so I didn't know nothing about that annointing. I didn't
know nothing about it, you know. But and being in
Bushwick and being raised up in that Brooklyn field. Back
(36:28):
in those days, they used to have the tents and
I used to love to go to them tent revivals,
you know what I'm saying, And it just felt so good.
The music was just so moving and inspiring, you know, inspirational.
And that was my first real getting to know just
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that that movement, that that thing, that that special thing.
UH didn't know it as annoying. And you know, I
didn't know none of that. As a Catholic girl, you
don't learn none of that, you know what I'm saying.
I went to Catholal school all my life. I I
know about that in my beginning stages. But when I
used to see those tents and they come out and
them preachers be preaching, and the singing was just amazing.
(37:08):
I always loved to sing, but I never knew that
kind of singing. I only knew about Mahelia Jackson. He
was the big thing, you know, in my home.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
That's all I heard as far as the gospel platform.
So to hear them them churches coming out there and
giving that kind of music and the sound and the
way people used to just gravitate to it and stuff,
you know, So I got to learn it that kind
of way. That's the way I got to learn it
about about that kind of the Gospel. I wasn't uprooted
(37:39):
and raised so many people I know that came through
the church realm, that kind of church rem and uh
so it's just a blessing to hear you say what
you're saying. You you've had such an experience and with
the Great Peter, not just a little something something when
you say Timothy right when you say, you know, uh,
(38:00):
we spoke about someone that we both have in common,
you know, with with David, you know, as far as
you know, the every praise guy, you know as what
I call him, the every praise guy, uh practiced. It's
just you know, Hezekia, you know, all these these people,
but you you go back to the grassroot beginnings. You
(38:22):
know what I'm saying. The people that you've been around
really like they ate, slept, drink that thing.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
So I just so appreciate the fact that you're you're
allowing the listeners to be touched by this experience because you,
like I said, you were torn before you even knew
you was gonna be torn.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You idea of what I was getting into. It took me.
I didn't you know, I didn't just uh think it
took me once it got started. It took real way.
(39:01):
I went to my father. I remember going to my father, said, Dad,
you know, I'm saved now. And he said, what are
you talking about. He said, you're a Catholic. I said, no, Dad,
that's what you chose for me. I'm a grown man
and I'm choosing this for my for myself, so that
(39:22):
there's a difference. And uh he said, well, you know,
that's what you feel. That's what you feel. I've met
great I've met I've met a lot of well great people,
I mean really really really nice people. A lot of
(39:45):
people away. I've met Tamela Man, David Mann, and I
grew upgether in the middle of the Brooklyn Sound. And
that's the nineties, in the nineties New York, Brooklyn Well,
James Hall or all that. These guys I had the
(40:05):
Brooklyn Sound, Melbourne christpol mm hmmm. He wrote, Jesus is
my help? YESHI we had they. David Brandon, my friend
that he passed, Jeff Davis was David Brandon's sable drummer.
M David David, you know, and David Cid Rider and
(40:28):
David David from California. You know, he was frogman here
wow from California. You know, I know what I'm talking about,
you do you do? So? I know these people. Not
too long ago, I had the great pleasure of playing
with a goop that kind of grew up in in
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my neighborhood in the East New York, Brooklyn Sky. And
they they're just fabbily establish people.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
And they had a real tour in twenty twenty three
and they they got me to play. I played drums
with them all rights talking to YouTube. You can pull
it up, you can see it. It's gott Reunion tour.
You can also see them on on uh uns. They're great.
That's great.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah. Good people, good people you know, just like you
you know, and and good people know good people most times.
You know, you try to keep them around, right.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
The bad people keep good people around here.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
That's right. You gotta you gotta keep them people uh
just near you because you know, you could you could
go left really quick. And we know what that feels like,
you know, so just to know. But but you know,
just everything that you're saying, the listeners are getting a
real impact on what when God is doing something that journey,
(41:53):
you know, uh, the test that we go through. You
you know, and I had and and and I'm sure
you hit snags, you know, in your growing and in
your learning.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
You know.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
So I know there's a test right there that takes
you to your testimony. But you know, it's just so
beautiful that God, it's obvious your journey with drumming had
had come with, you know, and it was spearheaded because
you didn't even see it coming. And that's what most
people say when they get into ministry. They didn't even
(42:25):
figure that God was going to use them in that way.
You came from the military band and then you ended
up playing for the church.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
You know, I went backwards. They was telling me, you
went backwards, because here's what happens when you God, when
you play Gospels, usually you go from the church into
the world. I went from the world into the church.
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That was the other one, you know. Calling with God,
I mean calling it God was all my life, and
I didn't realize how strong a calling it was that
I got there. I wanted to play, I wanted to
be on records, and I ended up I wanted to
plase God with my gift given given back, but He's
(43:23):
given me years my you know, anything could have happened
to me through these years anything yep, and she kept
save me my members. I have my limbs. I still
play drums today. Every Sunday, I played drums. That's it.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
That's it, you know, and that and that, like I said,
that's when you know that walk is real and it's
not necessarily being led by you. Like you said, you went.
You went in a way that the average drummer don't
even come in, you know, or the average musicians, it
doesn't come in. And and it's like I said, it's
wanting to hear that and to let the listeners know.
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You know, there's no set way when.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
God is doing it.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
He's just going gonna do it. That's just like me.
You know nothing, that's it.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
He's gonna do it what he wants. You can't, you know.
It's like it's like being a pastor or something and
you try to run, you know, and it's like the
story of job. There's no jobs. Job. You gotta go
over here and do this, and job goes. I'm not
doing it. They got a big fish to carry. Joe
(44:43):
Ship has to do it. So if God has a
calling on your life, you're going to do it. I
don't care what you think you're gonna do. You're gonna
do what he says. I think it's best to do that.
But I think it's best to go God's way. If
you're gonna go anywhere, go God's way.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yeah, that's a that's a message right there, you know
for the average Joe that's just sitting out there and
they don't you know, they may not even know what
that social walk is all about, you know what I'm saying,
or getting to know him.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
But people don't realize, you know, and we hear this
in the church many times, to get to know get
in relationship with the Lord. But you know what, sometimes
it's God that has.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
To get in a relationship with you. People missed that thing.
They so you know, they passing and stuff. They just
quit to say. You know, you want to you want
to get relationship with God, and yes you do, but
sometimes you don't even know what it is to be
in a relationship. I mean, you don't even know what
that looked like. I didn't know what that looked like
to say, to say, oh, I'm a getting relationship with God?
(45:53):
Like what's that? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
I'm sorry about that. I made a slip. I'm sorry
about that. Somebody just call me. That was Jonah in
a decision. Continue. I want to get it right. I
want to get it right.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's right here, my friends, my friends, our friends know.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
That's my my brother, my brother.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
So that that's that's when you're getting it from the best.
That's right. Correction, yeah, but definitely.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Well I'm able to take corrections. That's another thing.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Right. Okay, So I said, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
And all the others that's listened to us and the
other because you know how you know how folks dudes
like man, he didn't even know what he was talking about.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
And then didn't know my word.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
No, no, but no, but listen, but there's always a
ver in the bush baby that's going straight stuffs out
and we thank you, Lewis.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
We think be in that room in the bush. I
tell you, that's fright, that's fright.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
God, Hey, ain't nothing wrong with that, And we allow
it because we want to be in decency in order.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
That's how I always talk about that. You know, you
want to make sure that you leave people and you
leave them in the right way, you know, So praise
God and thank you lou No this. This is good,
good food right here for the listeners. Listeners, you have
been blessed. I'm not gonna let this man go until
he gives the information as to how you know you
(47:37):
could be reached because you are reachable. So listeners, please
take his information down because he will talk to you.
He will, you know, give you the the the experiences
that he has been on and and help you with
your walk if you need. He is reachable, So go on,
give me your information, give me your emails and all
(47:58):
the Facebook and Instagram you know how you would be
be doing well.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
Facebook, you can look up drum Savers on Facebook drumb
Savers or Paris Corp P A R I S C.
Or Peace at gmail dot com. Hit me up and
I'll answer you got a problem.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yes, he is definitely reachable everybody. And you know, I
just again I want to thank you for coming on
this platform and blessing the listeners and myself with all
that knowledge and all that experience and expertise. You know,
I mean, you are the tour. If you're not to
say you are the tour and I would go tease you,
but now I want to re call you the tour
because I ain't hear nobody say the day that went
(48:43):
on tour with so many different facets as you have.
And I just bless God for your experience and the
fact that you're still teachable and teaching, you know, because
we have to keep learning, you know what I'm saying.
That's what makes us who we are, for God, for
us to Him to use us mightily to help the
next man. And I just thank you so much. God
(49:05):
bless you. You are my brother, and I really an
honor to have you. And this is an open door policy.
I'm going to have you to come back every time,
you know, anytime you have something that you want to
talk about, you come on this platform. This is home,
you know, and I just want to welcome you to that, honestly.
Thank you, God, bless you so much. Thank you Jerry
(49:28):
Rod and Positive Power twenty one for bringing this platform
every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern Standard time. We don't
count you out because without you, I would not be
here and the listeners would not be blessed from your platform.
So thank you so much. I Peter, anything that you
want to leave for the listeners, one word, a quote,
(49:51):
anything you want.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
To leave with the listeners before we go trus God.
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
That's right then, and there's no and I'll just piggyback
off there there's no map. We don't have a map.
Speaker 5 (50:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
It's God leading us in every every way.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
We we know.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
You read the Bible, we get knowledge, we get to
know his walk, Jesus walk. And how it you know,
all panned out.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
That is a.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Kind of mappy type of thing. But honestly, when God
has a need for you, he will move you in
ways that you ain't even ready for. You don't even
see it coming. As you've heard in this interview, you've
truly been blessed. Listeners, are this man of God just
richly doing any and all things for God's people and
for God. And I again thank you so much for
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being on this platform.
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I love your beat. Be up Gods you God bless you.
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