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M hm. The testimony, the testimony, the testimony.
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With Paula Fria, the Diva for Christ Day, wattle tune
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You are listening to the testimony.
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With host Akn Deva for Christ an In case you
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Hey, every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern.
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God, bless you, God, bless you, God bless you.
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This is the Diva for Christ, Paula Brion. And you
know today is that Tuesday at nine p m Eastern
Standard time, and we do nothing before we go to
the Throne of God, and today won't be any different,
Father God, I asked that you would just have your
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way as you do every Tuesday at non GM since
day in the time, with this show. Your show designed
especially to introduce folk to you, Lord, so that they
see just the wonderful, wonderful things that you've done and
your people, Father God, the testimony is that vehicle and
I just bless you just for having me to be
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the vessel to bring it to your people, that you
would use me in such a mighty way as you
are on today, Father God, thank you, thank you, thank
you for another day just to open my eyes to
be able to do this. I am honored that you
would pick me, Father God. I don't take it. I
don't take it for granted, Lord, that you would choose
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me to do this platform. Because you know your daughter,
she loved to talk and I love to talk to people,
but mostly I love to talk to people about you,
Father God. We uplift, We will elevate all of the
listeners on today because it's all about You, Lord, helping
them to get into a better relationship when it comes
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down to you, Father God, steer them in the ways
that they would need to get to know you better.
And we ask all this and the precious name above.
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All names, Jesus Christ.
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Amen, Amen, Amen, Oh, Today we have another uplifting, inspiring,
a platform of interview for you. The person that.
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Is on this line that's coming.
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To you is a true, true woman of God. She
is an author, She is an inspirationalist. She is a
motivational speaker. He speaks on terms of how God has
been to her and what she can offer to you
can only be a gem, just to say the least.
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He is truly, truly inspiring. And I know you are
going to be touched by this amazing interview. She has
been on this platform in the past, and I am
bringing you back, this wonderful woman that goes by the
name of Fatima Linda Howard, and she on the line.
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It is my girl of the line. She said, what's
going on? All as well? All as well, all as well?
And you know I have no other choice. I gotta
openly apologize to you for last week when we were
supposed to have you on and and I don't know
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what happened. It would charge it to my not to
my heart, but to my brain.
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I was born and all shatter in perfect time, perfect time,
that's right, and all according to God's with How are
you You know last time you came, you had so
many wonderful things to tell us about your wonderful book.
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And and we are good. I mean we are gonna
touch on a net just a little bit, just to
let the quote know what the book was about and
how it all came about for you, which is usually
my first question out the box, how did this begin
for usage, this wonderful walk into this artistry of being
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an author? How did it begin for you?
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Well, I've always been a writer. I've been a writer
since I was very young. And this is actually my
fourth book, but the last two books have been books
that have been faith based, islamicly centered, and so I
have two books and they are a part of a series.
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There's one more book that I hope to produce in
the series. But the series is the Path of the
Divine Alignment. And the first book was called Cressing Over
Crossroads and Cresting Over Crossroads is my story as a
African American professional woman Muslim and what that journey was about,
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in my journey to align myself closer to God and
closer to to my purpose. And you know, I talk
about in the book that you know that journey where
there were times when I felt like I may not
have made the right decisions or may have taken paths
where I thought I needed to do certain things in
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order to follow a certain career path.
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And then that journey to realizing that you know, the best,
the best path was where I was truly authentic and
aligned myself with God. So that was the That was
the first book.
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And my most recent book is called From Vision to
Divine Provision, the Islamic Art of Sacred Manifestation.
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And that book came about, and I will say truly that.
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Book came through me and not from me, because the
way the book unfolded was really amazing, and how it
came up came about was through a sister circle that
I was moved to start in my home and we
started some discussions about, you know, my vision board, and
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they were looking at my vision board and seeing that
there are lots of things on the vision board that
was real, including the house.
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That we were in.
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And I started getting a lot of questions about about
the vision board and how, you know, how I do
my visions and you know, what kind of prayers do
I do around those? And so I was moved to
really sit down and think about my process and think
about what are of those stages and really be able
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to to document those stages and then be able to
explain them. And I was doing it mainly for the
sisters in the circle, but as I was doing it,
the book really just started to come through me. And
because I felt like this information needed to go to
a wider audience.
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Okay, so you and you speak in terms of and
I got to ask the question because I'm I'm I'm
like vision board. When you say vision board, what does
that consist of? And you're saying it is different stages?
So what are the particular stages to the vision board
that you know, me, myself and the listeners can can
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get a better understanding.
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So the vision board is one of the It's contained
within one of the stages. But when I talk about
the stages, I'm talking about really from moving from those
wishes and desires to actually receiving the blessings from God
and the stages that I started to think about, like
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exactly what do I do? And it was that first
a visualizing. They're really understanding what it is that you want,
but it goes beyond that and looking at why do
you want it? And are your desires and your goals
align with God and what you say you are and
who you say you are and what you say you
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believe in. And so it really does require doing some
work and really looking at those desires and asking yourself
why do you want them? And you know, is this
something that's going to be good for me, Is it
going to be good for my family? Is it going
to be good for the community, But thinking about it
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beyond yourself. So that was the first stage stage, you know,
talk about being able to do that quiet time, that
meditation to really come to that. And then the next
stage is the asking, and that is the prayers, the
supplications and asking God. Islamically we refer to them as dahs,
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which is the Arabic term for for supplication, for for prayers.
And so it's moving from the vision to the conversation
with God. And then it's believing, believing that, believing that
it's possible.
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Believing that God can, you know, deliver it to you.
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And oftentimes people get stuck in that in that phase
of just that that asking, and they leave out the
importance of action because it's not just about asking, it's
also about doing. So it's the belief and then there's
the action. And then there's trust, trust in the process,
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trusting in the excuse me, trusting in the timing of God.
And so belief is believing that it's possible. The trust
is believing that God will, So it's believing God can,
and the trust is.
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Believing that God will.
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And then there are the surrendering and sometimes this can
be that the really hard part. That's that as being
patient and understanding that things happen on God's schedule and
not necessarily on ours. And the final stage is when
you receive those blessings, how do you respond to them?
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And and it's responding to them with gratitude because gratitude
does multiplied blessings, so it's also So those are the
stages visualization, asking, beliefs, excuse me, action, trust, surrender, and received.
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All right, well see and I and I you know,
I love when you come on because so many times religion,
as we see, separates us. And everything that you're saying
is a godly thing. So there's no there's no uh
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religious based quote unquote not saying it's it's demeanoring anyone's religion,
but there's no religious base. It's it's it's doing and
being about God's business at all times or most times.
And how you go, how you your journey toward that right,
and that is I think every believer does that at
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some point, like in certain religions they say let go
and let God right you just said, And then there's
there's there's other people that say, you know your goals,
that's gonna lead you to that journey, right, you know,
it's it's it's it's just a term thing. But we're
all doing the same thing, says and and that's why
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I like that said. Listen, I love when you come
on because they more oftentimes people will convince you that
you don't have nothing uh in common with me, And
we have everything in common because first of all, we
are sisters first and foremost, and we should encourage one
another and we should be there for one another. And
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you know, every time we do this platform, you know,
and and I put up you are an Islamic woman,
people want to divide that thing instead of looking at
what we all must do.
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There is a goal.
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There's a goal that you set right and then we
The goal is to try to reach the elevationations that
God would have you to be. And we all have that.
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We all have it. And you know, and I don't
do the division. If I did the division, I would
have to do the division within my own family. Within
my family, we have you know, we have different religions
within my family. And the reality is most African Americans
do you don't have to go too far in order
to find those differences. Even if it's not in your siblings.
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You know, you got a first cousin, you know, your uncle,
and so you know, most of us, we can we
can point to that we have Christians in our family,
maybe Baptists, you know, some have to over witnesses, Muslims.
So so we have that variety just even in our
own community. So it's you know, when we start to
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do that separation within our within our community, it it
you know, it definitely creates that the vibe and it's
not healthy. And when we really start to when we
really start to have conversations, we can really be speaking
the same language. And I'll tell you my oldest sister,
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she is Baptist, and she read my book From Vision
to Divine Provision and and there's lots of quotes within
the book, quotes from the Klown and quotes from the
Highdif and she she was reading it, she was saying, oh,
the Bible says the same thing. And so she automatically starts,
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you know, start making those.
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Connections to what she reads. And she's a you know,
she's a Christian that reads the Bible. So she's she's
quite familiar with the Bible. Not everybody reads it, but
she does.
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And so she you know, she was making you know,
making those connections as well. And you know, and when
I looked at who this book would appeal to, my as,
I start to say, who's the audience, and they say,
it's for those who come from a God centered perspective.
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So people that are you know, their religion, whereas God's centers,
because not all religions believe in a deity.
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But but you know, when you look at those Aprahanic religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam,
you know, those secessions of the books, this is something
that is going to appeal to everyone, and they will
look at it as my sister did and say, okay,
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that's a quote from the Kadan. But there's also a
similar quote from you know, from the Bible. And I
don't think anybody from from any of those religions would
read this and say, oh, I don't agree with that.
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Because because these break the principles are about, you know,
aligning yourself with God, about paying to God, trusting in God,
believing in God, you know, having that, you know, having that,
having that gratitude.
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And so so the conversation with the sisters started around
the vision board, but it was more expansive than that
because you know a lot of people they have these
vision board parties and they get together and inflict through
the magazines and paste them on the board.
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But there's not a whole lot of thinking about why
do you want what you want? And is you know,
is this going to be something that's going to be
good for you, going to be good for you and
your religion going to be good for you in this
world and it's going to secure your place in the
next world.
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So so as.
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You know, as Muslims, those are the things that we
think about. We're not just thinking about is it good
for us in this world, but is it also be
good for you in the next world?
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And looking at what.
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Are these goals and why do you want these goals
and having that clear conversation with God and your prayers about.
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Why you why you want this. You know, if if
the reason why you want the fancy new car in
order to be vostful and to show off, that's not
a good reason. If if if you want it because
you travel a lot and you want the comfort of
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the road, you want the safety, you want, the reliability,
and you start, you know, thinking about those things as
opposed to way till people see me full up in
this right.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
You know, that's a very you know, that's a very
different goal. So those are some of the things that
you know, I talk about in the book about how
to align those goals with those divine purposes and those
and that is really how you start to see that
true divine provision coming to you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Mmm so so true. I'm telling you that the alignment
is everything and how you know, how we reach the
goal on on being on that that journey that would
take us to God is so important. And obviously the
vision board is is a is a tool that is
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used because even in quote unquote the Christianity things they say,
you know, write the vision and make it plain, you know,
and that and that's pretty much the same as this
vision board concept. You're gonna write and you're gonna take
out things that could be utilized to get you from
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one plateau to a next plateau of understanding in God.
And and that's everything. You know, what I'm saying that
means uh uh. And as the listeners are listening, this
is a tea table moment right to get us from
point A to point B in getting a better understanding
of God. And I am so appreciated and that that's
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what I said. It's not you know most folks when
you say, oh, I'm this, I'm that, I truly believe
that's when it divides us as far as titles in religion.
But when you get to the meat and potatoes of it,
like you said, that vision board or the alignment of
the goals on what it takes to reach uh to
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get a better understanding of God, then it breaks it
down to a point where there's no there's no faith
based title. That's it is. It is how we are
going to effectively, you know, reach that goal and get
that better understanding. And like I said, even someone who's
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reading the Bible, who's reading the Koran, it gives you
a better understanding. When you go to this alignment goal
of reaching it, you know, then there's no division, there's
no division system. And that's why I so appreciate you
because you don't come on this platform and you're not
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you're not operating in the usual right because usually you
could get somebody in all they do is speak about
you know, the religious base of where they are in
their in their religion. Right, But it's important that sometimes
that's not the necessity. The necessity, like you're saying, is
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to get to know what it would take for you
to go from level to level. Uh, Because like you said,
the goal is, let's face it, the goal is to
get to that place where we can meet God, we
can really meet God and that after life. That that
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that everything that we talk about. You know, that's the
reason why we're trying to be good Steward, right, We're
trying to do things with with Uh. What you just said,
your your your book, your your your second book brings
you to that vision board. It brings you and gives
that walk you know in in intrum. Because I know
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your author and though in that book and maybe even
the first book, what is it that you feel that
you haven't touched on that would be a focal point
or something that you would go toward for your next book?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Well, it's the next book in the series. Is actually
a book that I started writing some of your fat
and then I stopped. It got a little too emotional
for me, so I had to stop, uh, And then
I started writing it again, and I actually paused to
write this book because I was moved to write.
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This one first. But the next.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Book that I'm working on is around you know, living
your life in a way to actually prepare yourself for
death in the next and the other side. So it's
going to take you know, it's taking you through the journey.
It's he The first book was kind of the trials,
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the tribulations, me going you know, the crossroads and aligning myself.
The next one goes into a little bit deeper in
terms of you know, making that connection with God and
receiving the provisions in this world without sacrificing your your
belief in God, without sacrificing your soul. And then the
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last book is really that next stage of having a transition,
starting to prepare yourself in transitioning for the next world.
And that book is speaking to kind of your life here,
but it's also to help those loved ones transition. And
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the reason why I said, you know this, that book
got a little emotional, it was because I had a
lot of back to back death in my family, like
very close death, and I started, you know, to write
this book when my former brother in law watched me
when my sister was near the end of life and
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how how I navigated that and how the family navigated it.
And he said to me, he said, you should really
write a book on this.
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He said, you.
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Should write a book to guide people on how to die.
And so when he said it, I started to work
on it. But it was very you know, it was
very emotional, and as I said, it was kind of
back to back to back. But I do think that
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it is the next book in the series, and it's
probably again God's timing that I was supposed to lay
the foundation for that with the with these other two books.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, I definitely can see how what the book that
you wrote with the vision board would would cat of,
you know, bring you to the point of the prepping
for death, you know, because you you you would possibly
need that because my question the next question would have
been to you, Okay, so in in that particular book
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book on prepping, what would that entail? But I think
you've already answered that before, you know, with the vision
board and having this alignment of your goal as to
what would make your walk worthy enough for you to
reach that that that uh, that death moment. You know
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what I'm saying, where you accepted God you know. And
and and please correct me if I'm if I'm saying
anything that's not exactly. But I'm just going by what
I hear. Am I kind of.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Clues and my kind of clothes. I'm gonna sere two
things with you. There's a proverb that I heard, and
I don't know the origins of the proverb, but I
heard it.
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It is something that stuck with me, and.
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I quoted a lot in terms of you know, how
I want to live my life. But the proverb says
something like, when you came into the world, you cried
and the world rejoiced. Live your life in a way
that when you leave this world, the world cries and
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you rejoice. And that and and that is something that
I try to live by. That if you live a
good enough life, you don't have the fear about meeting
your maker, you know, and you feel good about what
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you have done. You don't hold in your heart that
you've wronged anybody. You feel like you've left something worthy behind.
That there are people that say that you made a
contribution to my life and they cry because you are gone.
And that is so that was one thing. And then
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to kind of bring it to more something more currently popular.
Celo has a song where he says, there's a line
in a song where he says, earn the die, and
I just love that lines is that you know, we're
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all gonna die. We don't like to talk about it.
We want to talk about heaven, but you got to
die to get to heaven. All you know, no one's
leaving this world alive.
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You're gonna do it, and so you don it, and
it's like, how are you gonna live your life here?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
You know where you owned that death and so so
so that line as well is something that resonates, you know,
with with me. And I think a lot of times
people have a fear of talking about talking about death.
They don't do what they need to do to prepare,
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they don't know how to handle it when a loved
one is near end of life and to help them
make that transition with moyease and more peace and so
so that is kind of what you know, was inspiring
me around you know this this third book, but you
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know this, this book from Vision to Divine Provision, you know,
is about you know, how we're going to live here
and we and we can live. Well, sometimes people feel
like something is too big to ask for, or they
think there's something wrong with living a good life and
having nice things and enjoying nice things. But there but
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it's not. It's you know, the earth is spacious. There's
no limit to what God can provide, you know, it's
and so so it's okay for us to live a
good life here, providing that we're not compromising our soul
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and our relationship with God. And this is one of
the things that you know, I communicate in the book
and when i'm also you know, I you know, I
do some coaching with people, and I'm always doing speaking,
and I'm working a lot with women groups, either formally
or informally, and my conversation oftentimes is also helping people.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Dream big, right, right, because sometimes we don't know how
to dream dig So the provision to divine provision is
saying you can get, you know, the divine provisions. You know,
the Bible say ask and you shall receive. Yeah, yeah,
you know, the Kudan says, you know, ask and I
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will deliver it to you. And so but it's not
just you know, but it's not just about asking.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
You got to be asking for the right things right right,
you know, you don't. And there's a concept, you know.
I'm also you know, a lawyer about training, and there's
a concept in law that's called the clean hand doctrines.
And the clean hand doctrines means that you don't come
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to court asking for relief when your hands are dirty.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You've preached it. You preaching your hands.
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You can't.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I can't come to court asking the court to enforce
their legal contract, make you hold from a drug deal.
Oh so it's just a concept of of of clean hands.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
So I talk about that as well. That I started
to think about that and say, you know, that's.
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How you're supposed to come to God. You come to
God with clean hands.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
So when you start asking and you and you you know,
you open your hands as we do in Islam, or
you hold your hands together for prayer, that when those
hands need to be clean and so ay.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
So I love it.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I love it, you know. So that's also part of
the process I'm saying. So this is all the stuff
like I talk about in the book. It's like it's
not just about asking, but it's like you got to
get your life together. When you're asking, you're asking what
clean hands, and you're asking for good things.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
And when you can start to do all of those things,
you have to see those blessings.
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Coming to you and things that you couldn't even imagine.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
And that's one of the things that I've experienced, like
I've had blessings come to me in ways that I.
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Could not even dream about.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
M Yes, you know, and I don't know if you
know what the Bible says about it, but I know
there's probably a quote in there. But you know, islam
as when we say, you know, you should want for
your brother or your sister what you want for yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Ye, and you know, and so that's it, you know.
So that's what I you know, I said, I delivered
this book because I want for my brothers and minister's
what I want for myself. Well that listen, and we
talk about you know, in the Christian things or repentance,
you know, you you have to be able to repent.
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That means turn away from that sin. You know, you
cannot go to God with like you said, with unclean hands.
It's just not gonna happen. You know what I'm saying
that that that you know, and and most people feel
that if you repent, you know, and you happen to
turn away and you fall short again. You know you can,
you can, You'll be forgiven and and and I honestly,
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you know, a forgiveness is a major thing with God.
I truly believe. If you keep saying you forgive, you know,
Lord forgive me, and you're seeking that forgiveness, but you're
still doing the same things.
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It ain't happening.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It ain't happening. I don't care what what folk may say.
You know, the pastor might tell you this, and the
pastor might say this, and that you know that you're
gonna have a clean slate because you you at least repenting.
But if you're repenting thirty times, how does that make
it justified that you deserve to go through them gates
or wherever it. If you're constantly doing the same things
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that you said you were not gonna do, that's a
like a child who's doing stuff that they're not supposed
to do it. Mama then told you don't touch that,
don't do that, and you still gonna do it. You
know what I'm saying. You know? And and my thing
is that irregardless of knowing that there's gonna be a
butt whipping, you know at that time, or you're gonna
burn yourself or you're gonna do something more devastating, you know.
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But if you're gonna keep going, if you're gonna keep
doing it, it's there's there's no there's no excuses. There's
just no excuses, you know, for for for down documents doctrine.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
You know, you have to be sound.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
In that thing, and you got to be stepfast and
really want to be this kind of a person that
is a believer in God, and there's just no justifying
Oh okay, yes we all full sure, that's the terminology
that's used oftentimes, but that's an excuse. Oftentimes some people
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stay sorry and they wholeheartedly mean that and they turn
from their wicked ways. But then you have other people
that just do it because they know, oh, God gave
us repentance. So if we can just do whatever we
want to do and then ask for forgiveness and know
that He gon and forgive us, but only for.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
You to go back and do that same thing again.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Well, you know what, And I think a lot of
times people don't realize, like they look at some things.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
As you know, in terms of the guidance that we
have as being restrictive and you know, oh, you know,
this is a lot of restrictions. But when you actually
embrace the guidence, you find that your life is much
more peaceful.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You don't have all that drama.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Sometimes, you know, people will tell me about something to happen.
I said, well, how did you think that was going
to turn out?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know, you know, you engage it. You already was
given a warning not to do it, and did it anyway,
and then you know of how of how it turned out.
And it's like, you know, I went to this I
went to this conference a few weeks ago and it
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was an Islamic conference for the weekend, and one of
the speakers his closing remarks, he said.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
You know, we've been given a manual for how to.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Navigate this world. That's it.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
And you would not operate any appliance without looking at
the manual. And if you you you operated at your
own peril. It's because if you didn't read the instructions,
you know, and the thing blew up on you.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And this is at your own peril.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
And navigating this world is very complicated, very complex. We're
not we don't live long enough to figure all this
stuff out on our own.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Maybe if we lived to be seven and eight hundred
years like back in the day, maybe by the time
we're at five hundred years we got some stuff worked out.
But most of us we're here sixty right, eighty years,
and by the time right to that that point, we'd
be like we wish we know then what we know now.
When you did know then, no, you just didn't want
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to foot because you are given me.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
You were given a manual how to navigate, you know,
on how to navigate this world.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
So I mean, I don't want to get too much
as the preaching. But right you already answered you don't
pre discernment right there. Yeah, yeah, listeners, you just heard it.
You just heard it, and it's so true. It's really
best facts. You can't continue to live a life like that,
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you know what I'm saying. And then you say, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
But yet and still like you said, you won't look
at the manual to make things happen effectively without as
many problems. Nobody's saying you won't have a problem. Listeners,
We're not telling you that you're not gonna go through
you know, but but you at least know that if
you try to follow that manual, it'll lessen the load, right,
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it'll lessen the load. As to your.
Speaker 7 (38:46):
Process, it does, and you navigate those problems differently.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yep. You know.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
One of the things, you know that if you're around
any Muslims, you'll hear them say constantly humble humdula Humdullah
and abd Allah is thanking, thanking God.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
And well, no matter what happens in your life.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
You you thank God because you know it may seem
like a you may it may seem like a harship,
but that harsship may have been saving you from something
else that hard astray and a test for you that
that you have an opportunity to take It may be
some lessons that you need to need to learn. And
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and it also is understanding that why you're going through this,
that there are some that there's some there's some benefit
in it, and so you don't look at the hardships
the same way.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
You know, my mother.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
Was one of the most resilient people that.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I've ever known. And you know my mother, she you know,
in her lifetime she lived to be a little over
one hundred and one and in her life. She buried
two husbands, five children, one grandchild, and was twelve siblings
and I think all but one of her siblings. And
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you know, and particularly as you know she was losing
children in her nineties and ninety five and one hundred.
You know, you're thinking, oh, she's not gonna be able
to take this. What I mean, it's hard enough for
a parent to lose one child, but to lose five.
And my mother used to.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
Say all the time, the Lord is not going to
give you any any more than you can bear. And
so it was that her connection to God and her
faith in God that gave her the.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Strength to endure those hardships. And you know, and I
had you know, another family, remember who lost the child?
And she asked me, how did my mother deal with
all those losses? And I said, there's some pain that
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is so great.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
That only God can get you through it. And so
it's that it's that connection. So so yes, you're gonna
go through trials and you're gonna go through tribulations.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
But when you.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Tie yourself to God, and you know, we have a
thing and there's going to also hold onto the rope
of a law when you when you tie yourself there.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
You handle those.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Hardships a lot differently than someone that doesn't have that,
you know, have.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
That connection to God.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
And it's the same thing when you start looking at
your goals. And I've gone through this a lot where
you know, where I pray for something and it didn't
come when I you know, when I wanted to come,
and it didn't come the way I wanted it to come.
But trusting and a law you you you see that
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there must be a greater purpose, and so you don't
look at these things as a failure, you know. I
you know, I resigned from a job and started a
business and put a lot of money into that business
because I felt, you know, I did my prayer, I
did my you know, ask for guidance, and I felt
like I was guided to do that. And that particular
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business didn't work. And some people would be saying, oh, wow,
this was a failure, but I felt like it opened
doors for me to be on the past that I'm
down because had I stayed on that other path, I
would not I don't think I would have been of
the time to write the books that I'm writing, or
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to study the way I'm studying, or to travel the
way that I be able to been able to travel.
So it's that attitude or saying okay, this right now,
that worked out the way you wanted it to work out.
But but it's that it's that.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Patience, and it's that trust of saying, yes, you know,
whatever this journey is, if you're aligning yourself for God
and your goals are for the right reason, you understand
that even when you don't get what you want the
way you want it, it's still a blessing. Yep, yep, yeah,
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you that's that's the way to look at it. Honestly,
there's there's no other way. I mean, I guess people
could have a different way of looking at it, but
you know, it really is people that are a real
faith again, things that you can't see in the natural right,
but you have faith enough. That's where that comes in.
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That's where that comes in because most people, like you said,
everybody's not there, but prayerfully they will graduate to be there. Well,
I'm gonna give the time right now for you to
because we could go on forever. I love when you
come on because the time you're slips and I'll be like, Okay.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
I'm on a show now.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
You know, I ain't talking to you, you know, just
because we could go hours. But I just want to
make sure that the listeners can reach and reach you
in the way, you know, just leave your number and
stuff like not your number, but you know, contact information.
But definitely also how they can purchase your books, you know,
because I know that they are listening and they want
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to read more.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
They definitely want to read more. Okay, So both books
are available on Amazon. Crushing Over Crossroads is the first
book I talked about, and From Vision to Divine Provision
as the second book. There's also two ways that two
other ways, and you can get to the books. Then
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I have a web site.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Paul crassing Over Crossroads and then I also have a
website Vision to Divine Provision. So you could go to.
Speaker 7 (45:08):
Either one of those websites to get more information about
the book. You can also get it on Amazon. The
author is Fatima Linda Howard and that's Fatima spelled with
an hch to n fat I am a H and
you can reach me by email. My social media handles
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are all with Linda Howard, So email.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Is engaged at with Linda Howard and then YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
all of those are.
Speaker 7 (45:44):
Are with Linda Howard, So you can reach me by
any of those ways. I'm available to do speaking, engagement,
coaching retreats. But also I hope that you do get
the book From Vision to Divine Provision, and I would
really love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
In the book, there's also contact information.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
Because this is a journey and I want to know
how other people are experiencing the journey with the book.
And I just want to say one other thing too,
before you know, before we wrap before we wrap up.
I think the book From Vision to Divine Provision is
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very important because one of one of the reasons that
I wanted to write it from this perspective is because
there's a lot of information like where people are, you know,
want to do manifestation and you know, the book The
Secret and so you there's a lot of that that
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kind of that New Age concept.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
And one of the things that.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
I find is that those those those concepts are not
they don't center you in God because it's it's saying.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Ask the universe.
Speaker 7 (47:04):
And my position is that the universe is created by God,
and so you know, it's better to ask the creator
and not to create it, and and so you know,
that's one of the things that you know, I try
to communicate that it's important for us to get this
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connection to God and to and to not kind of
fall into that language, that new age language. Well, you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna ask the universe, the universe made
this happen when you know, when we should be praying
to God and understanding that all of our blessings are
coming from God, that's it.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
That's it, and that and that was very important. And
I'm so glad you said that because you know that
that is not something that shits will with me when
you you know, speaking on terms of seeking God, you
know that that doesn't it just doesn't align it. There
is a specific name for the higher being, and that
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is God. That is God, not universe, not you know,
the the chakras and all this other stuff. It's just
so many different variables. But we we we'll be going
into a whole nother situation with that. But I truly
bless God for you, and I thank you. The listeners
are always blessed when you come on this platform. And
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and again this is an open door policy. I will
always have you come back to speak about all the
other wonderful books that are birthing and all the other
things that are coming to you. Uh, you know, be
a God and his grace on your life. And I
just bless God that I found you. I don't even
remember how we found each other, but I bless God
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that and and I have to say you you you could.
Bringing you on has grounded this platform because most people
just figure, oh, you know, you got to come on
this platform because you're a Christian, because you're a Baptist,
because you're again. It's no religion base here. It is
people that truly want to have a stronger relationship and
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walk with God. And that's it. Names and titles don't matter,
you don't say, long as you know that there is
a higher presence, There is a being that is making
this thing all work together for His good and and
and that's what's important, you know. So I bless God
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for you having to come on as you always do.
And and I'm going to tell the listeners you have
truly been blessed. And I just want to thank you
for coming every Tuesday, you know, without a doubt, coming
and being a part of this platform, you know, and
hearing the wonderful uh guests that come on and don't
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have a problem showing you and teaching you and walking
you through this journey, this journey, because this journey ain't easy.
Right here, it ain't easy, But it is not easy,
my God, you know it is not an easy feat.
But we with the people and the many people that
come on this platform, it makes it an easier way
to look at how to reach that goal of getting
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a better relationship, a closure relationship with God. So again
I thank you, But you know, at the end I
always asked this, my sister, if you were just we
begin with prayer and we're gonna leave with prayer, if
you wouldn't mind doing that for us on today?
Speaker 7 (50:43):
All right, okay, this may la Mara in the name
of Allah, the most Gracious, for ever merciful.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I asked that Allah guide us in our journeys.
Speaker 7 (50:58):
Guide our path God are walk, and that we be
given the ears to hear and the vision to see,
and that our hearts are opened, so yes, we can
be closer to to Allah, to God, to God, and
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that our dreams are connected to God, and that our
dreams are fulfilled, and that we received the divine provision
that is already written for us.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yes, I mean hmm. God is good. God is good. Yes,
it is. It is a journey, it is a faith walk.
It is it is believing in trusting that that He
is leading us. He is the beginning and true is
the end of all things that are are are of Him.
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And we just bless God that we could be used
for the for the uplisting of His UH spirit, that
it would reach the depths of the souls of those
that are listening to this platform or platforms such as this.
I just thank you so much this UH Honestly, again,
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this is an open door policy. I want to thank
Positive Power twenty one and Jerry Royce who is detect
man behind this whole wonderful platform, and he has been
that for me for the what four years I think
I've been on this platform. I just won't leave. He
can't get rid of me because I just blessed God
for this. I'm telling you, what a wonderful opportunity to
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be able to share in such a wonderful platforms such
as this. And again you always come and you bring
in this. So I thank you so much for being
all that you do for me. Thank you, and I
look forward to I look forward to coming back again. Yes,
this is always wonderful. You're always welcome. And now I mean,
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and we got a few more minutes. You know, is
anybody you want to shout out? Do you want to
give somebody a shout out that might be literally?
Speaker 7 (53:16):
Yeah, I'm going to give a shout out to my
big sister Brenda Ruffan, And she is you know, as
I said, there were there were seven of us and
now there's two of us left, my sister Brenda. And
Brenda has been a real inspiration for me and my
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support and you know, and we are both walking that
path to align with God. And you know, she's doing
it as a Christian and I'm doing it as a
Busslim and so I wanted to do that shout out,
do that shout out to her, and also just to
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I mentioned that I, you know, started a sister circle
on Is called Sisters Stepfast then.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Fast Saturdays, and and those those sisters have been beautiful
and some of them travel over an hour to come
to my house once a month on on Saturdays, and
they have been just a God sent and a big
inspiration behind my book. So shout out to the sisters
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that come to my house some months, I'm coming. I'm
gonna get there one day. I'm gonna get there one day.
I'm telling you I'm gonna get there. Because I even
posted up there was a young lady that was at
your house and she was she was promoting your book
and she was talking about I posted up on my
Facebook page. So listening to be. Anytime you want to
know more about this wonderful woman, you could definitely check
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on my Facebook page, my Instagram page under paul Le Brionne,
and we will definitely have stuck to share. And again,
you know I again, thank you, my sister. You think.
And I'm trying to build my YouTube page, so everybody
go to my YouTube page and subscribe because I'm just
getting started on YouTube. So that's that's it. Well, honey,
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don't talk to me because I'm computer dude. I tell
everybody when you come down to computer, I am truly
that generation that they said have to catch up. But
I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
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the vessel to bring it to your people, that you
would use me in such a mighty way as you
are on today, Father God, thank you, thank you, thank
you for another day just to open my eyes to
be able to do this. I am honored that you
would pick me, Father God. I don't take it. I
don't take it for granted, Lord, that you would choose
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she loved to talk and I love to talk to people,
but mostly I love to talk to people about you,
Father God. We uplift, We will elevate all of the
listeners on today because it's all about You, Lord, helping
them to get into a better relationship when it comes
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that they would need to get to know you better.
And we ask all this and the precious name above.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
All names, Jesus Christ.
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Amen, Amen, Amen, Oh, Today we have another uplifting, inspiring,
a platform of interview for you. The person that.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Is on this line that's coming.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
To you is a true, true woman of God. She
is an author, She is an inspirationalist. She is a
motivational speaker. He speaks on terms of how God has
been to her and what she can offer to you
can only be a gem, just to say the least.
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He is truly, truly inspiring. And I know you are
going to be touched by this amazing interview. She has
been on this platform in the past, and I am
bringing you back, this wonderful woman that goes by the
name of Fatima Linda Howard, and she on the line.
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It is my girl of the line. She said, what's
going on? All as well? All as well, all as well?
And you know I have no other choice. I gotta
openly apologize to you for last week when we were
supposed to have you on and and I don't know
(04:39):
what happened. It would charge it to my not to
my heart, but to my brain.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I was born and all shatter in perfect time, perfect time,
that's right, and all according to God's with How are
you You know last time you came, you had so
many wonderful things to tell us about your wonderful book.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And and we are good. I mean we are gonna
touch on a net just a little bit, just to
let the quote know what the book was about and
how it all came about for you, which is usually
my first question out the box, how did this begin
for usage, this wonderful walk into this artistry of being
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an author? How did it begin for you?
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Well, I've always been a writer. I've been a writer
since I was very young. And this is actually my
fourth book, but the last two books have been books
that have been faith based, islamicly centered, and so I
have two books and they are a part of a series.
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There's one more book that I hope to produce in
the series. But the series is the Path of the
Divine Alignment. And the first book was called Cressing Over
Crossroads and Cresting Over Crossroads is my story as a
African American professional woman Muslim and what that journey was about,
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in my journey to align myself closer to God and
closer to to my purpose. And you know, I talk
about in the book that you know that journey where
there were times when I felt like I may not
have made the right decisions or may have taken paths
where I thought I needed to do certain things in
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order to follow a certain career path.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And then that journey to realizing that you know, the best,
the best path was where I was truly authentic and
aligned myself with God. So that was the That was
the first book.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
And my most recent book is called From Vision to
Divine Provision, the Islamic Art of Sacred Manifestation.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And that book came about, and I will say truly that.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
Book came through me and not from me, because the
way the book unfolded was really amazing, and how it
came up came about was through a sister circle that
I was moved to start in my home and we
started some discussions about, you know, my vision board, and
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they were looking at my vision board and seeing that
there are lots of things on the vision board that
was real, including the house.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
That we were in.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
And I started getting a lot of questions about about
the vision board and how, you know, how I do
my visions and you know, what kind of prayers do
I do around those? And so I was moved to
really sit down and think about my process and think
about what are of those stages and really be able
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to to document those stages and then be able to
explain them. And I was doing it mainly for the
sisters in the circle, but as I was doing it,
the book really just started to come through me. And
because I felt like this information needed to go to
a wider audience.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Okay, so you and you speak in terms of and
I got to ask the question because I'm I'm I'm
like vision board. When you say vision board, what does
that consist of? And you're saying it is different stages?
So what are the particular stages to the vision board
that you know, me, myself and the listeners can can
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get a better understanding.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
So the vision board is one of the It's contained
within one of the stages. But when I talk about
the stages, I'm talking about really from moving from those
wishes and desires to actually receiving the blessings from God
and the stages that I started to think about, like
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exactly what do I do? And it was that first
a visualizing. They're really understanding what it is that you want,
but it goes beyond that and looking at why do
you want it? And are your desires and your goals
align with God and what you say you are and
who you say you are and what you say you
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believe in. And so it really does require doing some
work and really looking at those desires and asking yourself
why do you want them? And you know, is this
something that's going to be good for me, Is it
going to be good for my family? Is it going
to be good for the community, But thinking about it
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beyond yourself. So that was the first stage stage, you know,
talk about being able to do that quiet time, that
meditation to really come to that. And then the next
stage is the asking, and that is the prayers, the
supplications and asking God. Islamically we refer to them as dahs,
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which is the Arabic term for for supplication, for for prayers.
And so it's moving from the vision to the conversation
with God. And then it's believing, believing that, believing that
it's possible.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Believing that God can, you know, deliver it to you.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
And oftentimes people get stuck in that in that phase
of just that that asking, and they leave out the
importance of action because it's not just about asking, it's
also about doing. So it's the belief and then there's
the action. And then there's trust, trust in the process,
(11:03):
trusting in the excuse me, trusting in the timing of God.
And so belief is believing that it's possible. The trust
is believing that God will, So it's believing God can,
and the trust is.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Believing that God will.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
And then there are the surrendering and sometimes this can
be that the really hard part. That's that as being
patient and understanding that things happen on God's schedule and
not necessarily on ours. And the final stage is when
you receive those blessings, how do you respond to them?
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And and it's responding to them with gratitude because gratitude
does multiplied blessings, so it's also So those are the
stages visualization, asking, beliefs, excuse me, action, trust, surrender, and received.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
All right, well see and I and I you know,
I love when you come on because so many times religion,
as we see, separates us. And everything that you're saying
is a godly thing. So there's no there's no uh
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religious based quote unquote not saying it's it's demeanoring anyone's religion,
but there's no religious base. It's it's it's doing and
being about God's business at all times or most times.
And how you go, how you your journey toward that right,
and that is I think every believer does that at
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some point, like in certain religions they say let go
and let God right you just said, And then there's
there's there's other people that say, you know your goals,
that's gonna lead you to that journey, right, you know,
it's it's it's it's just a term thing. But we're
all doing the same thing, says and and that's why
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I like that said. Listen, I love when you come
on because they more oftentimes people will convince you that
you don't have nothing uh in common with me, And
we have everything in common because first of all, we
are sisters first and foremost, and we should encourage one
another and we should be there for one another. And
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you know, every time we do this platform, you know,
and and I put up you are an Islamic woman,
people want to divide that thing instead of looking at
what we all must do.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
There is a goal.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
There's a goal that you set right and then we
The goal is to try to reach the elevationations that
God would have you to be. And we all have that.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
We all have it. And you know, and I don't
do the division. If I did the division, I would
have to do the division within my own family. Within
my family, we have you know, we have different religions
within my family. And the reality is most African Americans
do you don't have to go too far in order
to find those differences. Even if it's not in your siblings.
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You know, you got a first cousin, you know, your uncle,
and so you know, most of us, we can we
can point to that we have Christians in our family,
maybe Baptists, you know, some have to over witnesses, Muslims.
So so we have that variety just even in our
own community. So it's you know, when we start to
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do that separation within our within our community, it it
you know, it definitely creates that the vibe and it's
not healthy. And when we really start to when we
really start to have conversations, we can really be speaking
the same language. And I'll tell you my oldest sister,
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she is Baptist, and she read my book From Vision
to Divine Provision and and there's lots of quotes within
the book, quotes from the Klown and quotes from the
Highdif and she she was reading it, she was saying, oh,
the Bible says the same thing. And so she automatically starts,
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you know, start making those.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Connections to what she reads. And she's a you know,
she's a Christian that reads the Bible. So she's she's
quite familiar with the Bible. Not everybody reads it, but
she does.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
And so she you know, she was making you know,
making those connections as well. And you know, and when
I looked at who this book would appeal to, my as,
I start to say, who's the audience, and they say,
it's for those who come from a God centered perspective.
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So people that are you know, their religion, whereas God's centers,
because not all religions believe in a deity.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But but you know, when you look at those Aprahanic religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam,
you know, those secessions of the books, this is something
that is going to appeal to everyone, and they will
look at it as my sister did and say, okay,
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that's a quote from the Kadan. But there's also a
similar quote from you know, from the Bible. And I
don't think anybody from from any of those religions would
read this and say, oh, I don't agree with that.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Because because these break the principles are about, you know,
aligning yourself with God, about paying to God, trusting in God,
believing in God, you know, having that, you know, having that,
having that gratitude.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And so so the conversation with the sisters started around
the vision board, but it was more expansive than that
because you know a lot of people they have these
vision board parties and they get together and inflict through
the magazines and paste them on the board.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
But there's not a whole lot of thinking about why
do you want what you want? And is you know,
is this going to be something that's going to be
good for you, going to be good for you and
your religion going to be good for you in this
world and it's going to secure your place in the
next world.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So so as.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
You know, as Muslims, those are the things that we
think about. We're not just thinking about is it good
for us in this world, but is it also be
good for you in the next world?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And looking at what.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Are these goals and why do you want these goals
and having that clear conversation with God and your prayers about.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Why you why you want this. You know, if if
the reason why you want the fancy new car in
order to be vostful and to show off, that's not
a good reason. If if if you want it because
you travel a lot and you want the comfort of
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the road, you want the safety, you want, the reliability,
and you start, you know, thinking about those things as
opposed to way till people see me full up in
this right.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
You know, that's a very you know, that's a very
different goal. So those are some of the things that
you know, I talk about in the book about how
to align those goals with those divine purposes and those
and that is really how you start to see that
true divine provision coming to you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Mmm so so true. I'm telling you that the alignment
is everything and how you know, how we reach the
goal on on being on that that journey that would
take us to God is so important. And obviously the
vision board is is a is a tool that is
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used because even in quote unquote the Christianity things they say,
you know, write the vision and make it plain, you know,
and that and that's pretty much the same as this
vision board concept. You're gonna write and you're gonna take
out things that could be utilized to get you from
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one plateau to a next plateau of understanding in God.
And and that's everything. You know, what I'm saying that
means uh uh. And as the listeners are listening, this
is a tea table moment right to get us from
point A to point B in getting a better understanding
of God. And I am so appreciated and that that's
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what I said. It's not you know most folks when
you say, oh, I'm this, I'm that, I truly believe
that's when it divides us as far as titles in religion.
But when you get to the meat and potatoes of it,
like you said, that vision board or the alignment of
the goals on what it takes to reach uh to
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get a better understanding of God, then it breaks it
down to a point where there's no there's no faith
based title. That's it is. It is how we are
going to effectively, you know, reach that goal and get
that better understanding. And like I said, even someone who's
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reading the Bible, who's reading the Koran, it gives you
a better understanding. When you go to this alignment goal
of reaching it, you know, then there's no division, there's
no division system. And that's why I so appreciate you
because you don't come on this platform and you're not
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you're not operating in the usual right because usually you
could get somebody in all they do is speak about
you know, the religious base of where they are in
their in their religion. Right, But it's important that sometimes
that's not the necessity. The necessity, like you're saying, is
(21:40):
to get to know what it would take for you
to go from level to level. Uh, Because like you said,
the goal is, let's face it, the goal is to
get to that place where we can meet God, we
can really meet God and that after life. That that
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that everything that we talk about. You know, that's the
reason why we're trying to be good Steward, right, We're
trying to do things with with Uh. What you just said,
your your your book, your your your second book brings
you to that vision board. It brings you and gives
that walk you know in in intrum. Because I know
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your author and though in that book and maybe even
the first book, what is it that you feel that
you haven't touched on that would be a focal point
or something that you would go toward for your next book?
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Well, it's the next book in the series. Is actually
a book that I started writing some of your fat
and then I stopped. It got a little too emotional
for me, so I had to stop, uh, And then
I started writing it again, and I actually paused to
write this book because I was moved to write.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
This one first. But the next.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Book that I'm working on is around you know, living
your life in a way to actually prepare yourself for
death in the next and the other side. So it's
going to take you know, it's taking you through the journey.
It's he The first book was kind of the trials,
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the tribulations, me going you know, the crossroads and aligning myself.
The next one goes into a little bit deeper in
terms of you know, making that connection with God and
receiving the provisions in this world without sacrificing your your
belief in God, without sacrificing your soul. And then the
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last book is really that next stage of having a transition,
starting to prepare yourself in transitioning for the next world.
And that book is speaking to kind of your life here,
but it's also to help those loved ones transition. And
(24:09):
the reason why I said, you know this, that book
got a little emotional, it was because I had a
lot of back to back death in my family, like
very close death, and I started, you know, to write
this book when my former brother in law watched me
when my sister was near the end of life and
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how how I navigated that and how the family navigated it.
And he said to me, he said, you should really
write a book on this.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
He said, you.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Should write a book to guide people on how to die.
And so when he said it, I started to work
on it. But it was very you know, it was
very emotional, and as I said, it was kind of
back to back to back. But I do think that
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it is the next book in the series, and it's
probably again God's timing that I was supposed to lay
the foundation for that with the with these other two books.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, I definitely can see how what the book that
you wrote with the vision board would would cat of,
you know, bring you to the point of the prepping
for death, you know, because you you you would possibly
need that because my question the next question would have
been to you, Okay, so in in that particular book
(25:38):
book on prepping, what would that entail? But I think
you've already answered that before, you know, with the vision
board and having this alignment of your goal as to
what would make your walk worthy enough for you to
reach that that that uh, that death moment. You know
(26:03):
what I'm saying, where you accepted God you know. And
and and please correct me if I'm if I'm saying
anything that's not exactly. But I'm just going by what
I hear. Am I kind of.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Clues and my kind of clothes. I'm gonna sere two
things with you. There's a proverb that I heard, and
I don't know the origins of the proverb, but I
heard it.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It is something that stuck with me, and.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I quoted a lot in terms of you know, how
I want to live my life. But the proverb says
something like, when you came into the world, you cried
and the world rejoiced. Live your life in a way
that when you leave this world, the world cries and
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you rejoice. And that and and that is something that
I try to live by. That if you live a
good enough life, you don't have the fear about meeting
your maker, you know, and you feel good about what
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you have done. You don't hold in your heart that
you've wronged anybody. You feel like you've left something worthy behind.
That there are people that say that you made a
contribution to my life and they cry because you are gone.
And that is so that was one thing. And then
(27:41):
to kind of bring it to more something more currently popular.
Celo has a song where he says, there's a line
in a song where he says, earn the die, and
I just love that lines is that you know, we're
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all gonna die. We don't like to talk about it.
We want to talk about heaven, but you got to
die to get to heaven. All you know, no one's
leaving this world alive.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You're gonna do it, and so you don it, and
it's like, how are you gonna live your life here?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
You know where you owned that death and so so
so that line as well is something that resonates, you know,
with with me. And I think a lot of times
people have a fear of talking about talking about death.
They don't do what they need to do to prepare,
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they don't know how to handle it when a loved
one is near end of life and to help them
make that transition with moyease and more peace and so
so that is kind of what you know, was inspiring
me around you know this this third book, but you
(29:08):
know this, this book from Vision to Divine Provision, you know,
is about you know, how we're going to live here
and we and we can live. Well, sometimes people feel
like something is too big to ask for, or they
think there's something wrong with living a good life and
having nice things and enjoying nice things. But there but
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it's not. It's you know, the earth is spacious. There's
no limit to what God can provide, you know, it's
and so so it's okay for us to live a
good life here, providing that we're not compromising our soul
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and our relationship with God. And this is one of
the things that you know, I communicate in the book
and when i'm also you know, I you know, I
do some coaching with people, and I'm always doing speaking,
and I'm working a lot with women groups, either formally
or informally, and my conversation oftentimes is also helping people.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Dream big, right, right, because sometimes we don't know how
to dream dig So the provision to divine provision is
saying you can get, you know, the divine provisions. You know,
the Bible say ask and you shall receive. Yeah, yeah,
you know, the Kudan says, you know, ask and I
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will deliver it to you. And so but it's not
just you know, but it's not just about asking.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
You got to be asking for the right things right right,
you know, you don't. And there's a concept, you know.
I'm also you know, a lawyer about training, and there's
a concept in law that's called the clean hand doctrines.
And the clean hand doctrines means that you don't come
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to court asking for relief when your hands are dirty.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You've preached it. You preaching your hands.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I can't come to court asking the court to enforce
their legal contract, make you hold from a drug deal.
Oh so it's just a concept of of of clean hands.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
So I talk about that as well. That I started
to think about that and say, you know, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
How you're supposed to come to God. You come to
God with clean hands.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
So when you start asking and you and you you know,
you open your hands as we do in Islam, or
you hold your hands together for prayer, that when those
hands need to be clean and so ay.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
So I love it.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I love it, you know. So that's also part of
the process I'm saying. So this is all the stuff
like I talk about in the book. It's like it's
not just about asking, but it's like you got to
get your life together. When you're asking, you're asking what
clean hands, and you're asking for good things.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
And when you can start to do all of those things,
you have to see those blessings.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Coming to you and things that you couldn't even imagine.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
And that's one of the things that I've experienced, like
I've had blessings come to me in ways that I.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Could not even dream about.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
M Yes, you know, and I don't know if you
know what the Bible says about it, but I know
there's probably a quote in there. But you know, islam
as when we say, you know, you should want for
your brother or your sister what you want for yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Ye, and you know, and so that's it, you know.
So that's what I you know, I said, I delivered
this book because I want for my brothers and minister's
what I want for myself. Well that listen, and we
talk about you know, in the Christian things or repentance,
you know, you you have to be able to repent.
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That means turn away from that sin. You know, you
cannot go to God with like you said, with unclean hands.
It's just not gonna happen. You know what I'm saying
that that that you know, and and most people feel
that if you repent, you know, and you happen to
turn away and you fall short again. You know you can,
you can, You'll be forgiven and and and I honestly,
(33:43):
you know, a forgiveness is a major thing with God.
I truly believe. If you keep saying you forgive, you know,
Lord forgive me, and you're seeking that forgiveness, but you're
still doing the same things.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
It ain't happening.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It ain't happening. I don't care what what folk may say.
You know, the pastor might tell you this, and the
pastor might say this, and that you know that you're
gonna have a clean slate because you you at least repenting.
But if you're repenting thirty times, how does that make
it justified that you deserve to go through them gates
or wherever it. If you're constantly doing the same things
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that you said you were not gonna do, that's a
like a child who's doing stuff that they're not supposed
to do it. Mama then told you don't touch that,
don't do that, and you still gonna do it. You
know what I'm saying. You know? And and my thing
is that irregardless of knowing that there's gonna be a
butt whipping, you know at that time, or you're gonna
burn yourself or you're gonna do something more devastating, you know.
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But if you're gonna keep going, if you're gonna keep
doing it, it's there's there's no there's no excuses. There's
just no excuses, you know, for for for down documents doctrine.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
You know, you have to be sound.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
In that thing, and you got to be stepfast and
really want to be this kind of a person that
is a believer in God, and there's just no justifying
Oh okay, yes we all full sure, that's the terminology
that's used oftentimes, but that's an excuse. Oftentimes some people
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stay sorry and they wholeheartedly mean that and they turn
from their wicked ways. But then you have other people
that just do it because they know, oh, God gave
us repentance. So if we can just do whatever we
want to do and then ask for forgiveness and know
that He gon and forgive us, but only for.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
You to go back and do that same thing again.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Well, you know what, And I think a lot of
times people don't realize, like they look at some things.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
As you know, in terms of the guidance that we
have as being restrictive and you know, oh, you know,
this is a lot of restrictions. But when you actually
embrace the guidence, you find that your life is much
more peaceful.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You don't have all that drama.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Sometimes, you know, people will tell me about something to happen.
I said, well, how did you think that was going
to turn out?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know, you know, you engage it. You already was
given a warning not to do it, and did it anyway,
and then you know of how of how it turned out.
And it's like, you know, I went to this I
went to this conference a few weeks ago and it
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was an Islamic conference for the weekend, and one of
the speakers his closing remarks, he said.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
You know, we've been given a manual for how to.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Navigate this world. That's it.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
And you would not operate any appliance without looking at
the manual. And if you you you operated at your
own peril. It's because if you didn't read the instructions,
you know, and the thing blew up on you.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And this is at your own peril.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
And navigating this world is very complicated, very complex. We're
not we don't live long enough to figure all this
stuff out on our own.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Maybe if we lived to be seven and eight hundred
years like back in the day, maybe by the time
we're at five hundred years we got some stuff worked out.
But most of us we're here sixty right, eighty years,
and by the time right to that that point, we'd
be like we wish we know then what we know now.
When you did know then, no, you just didn't want
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to foot because you are given me.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
You were given a manual how to navigate, you know,
on how to navigate this world.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
So I mean, I don't want to get too much
as the preaching. But right you already answered you don't
pre discernment right there. Yeah, yeah, listeners, you just heard it.
You just heard it, and it's so true. It's really
best facts. You can't continue to live a life like that,
(38:15):
you know what I'm saying. And then you say, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
But yet and still like you said, you won't look
at the manual to make things happen effectively without as
many problems. Nobody's saying you won't have a problem. Listeners,
We're not telling you that you're not gonna go through
you know, but but you at least know that if
you try to follow that manual, it'll lessen the load, right,
(38:43):
it'll lessen the load. As to your.
Speaker 7 (38:46):
Process, it does, and you navigate those problems differently.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yep. You know.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
One of the things, you know that if you're around
any Muslims, you'll hear them say constantly humble humdula Humdullah
and abd Allah is thanking, thanking God.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
And well, no matter what happens in your life.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
You you thank God because you know it may seem
like a you may it may seem like a harship,
but that harsship may have been saving you from something
else that hard astray and a test for you that
that you have an opportunity to take It may be
some lessons that you need to need to learn. And
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and it also is understanding that why you're going through this,
that there are some that there's some there's some benefit
in it, and so you don't look at the hardships
the same way.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
You know, my mother.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
Was one of the most resilient people that.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I've ever known. And you know my mother, she you know,
in her lifetime she lived to be a little over
one hundred and one and in her life. She buried
two husbands, five children, one grandchild, and was twelve siblings
and I think all but one of her siblings. And
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you know, and particularly as you know she was losing
children in her nineties and ninety five and one hundred.
You know, you're thinking, oh, she's not gonna be able
to take this. What I mean, it's hard enough for
a parent to lose one child, but to lose five.
And my mother used to.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
Say all the time, the Lord is not going to
give you any any more than you can bear. And
so it was that her connection to God and her
faith in God that gave her the.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Strength to endure those hardships. And you know, and I
had you know, another family, remember who lost the child?
And she asked me, how did my mother deal with
all those losses? And I said, there's some pain that
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is so great.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
That only God can get you through it. And so
it's that it's that connection. So so yes, you're gonna
go through trials and you're gonna go through tribulations.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
But when you.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Tie yourself to God, and you know, we have a
thing and there's going to also hold onto the rope
of a law when you when you tie yourself there.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
You handle those.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Hardships a lot differently than someone that doesn't have that,
you know, have.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
That connection to God.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
And it's the same thing when you start looking at
your goals. And I've gone through this a lot where
you know, where I pray for something and it didn't
come when I you know, when I wanted to come,
and it didn't come the way I wanted it to come.
But trusting and a law you you you see that
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there must be a greater purpose, and so you don't
look at these things as a failure, you know. I
you know, I resigned from a job and started a
business and put a lot of money into that business
because I felt, you know, I did my prayer, I
did my you know, ask for guidance, and I felt
like I was guided to do that. And that particular
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business didn't work. And some people would be saying, oh, wow,
this was a failure, but I felt like it opened
doors for me to be on the past that I'm
down because had I stayed on that other path, I
would not I don't think I would have been of
the time to write the books that I'm writing, or
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to study the way I'm studying, or to travel the
way that I be able to been able to travel.
So it's that attitude or saying okay, this right now,
that worked out the way you wanted it to work out.
But but it's that it's that.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Patience, and it's that trust of saying, yes, you know,
whatever this journey is, if you're aligning yourself for God
and your goals are for the right reason, you understand
that even when you don't get what you want the
way you want it, it's still a blessing. Yep, yep, yeah,
(43:34):
you that's that's the way to look at it. Honestly,
there's there's no other way. I mean, I guess people
could have a different way of looking at it, but
you know, it really is people that are a real
faith again, things that you can't see in the natural right,
but you have faith enough. That's where that comes in.
(43:57):
That's where that comes in because most people, like you said,
everybody's not there, but prayerfully they will graduate to be there. Well,
I'm gonna give the time right now for you to
because we could go on forever. I love when you
come on because the time you're slips and I'll be like, Okay.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
I'm on a show now.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
You know, I ain't talking to you, you know, just
because we could go hours. But I just want to
make sure that the listeners can reach and reach you
in the way, you know, just leave your number and
stuff like not your number, but you know, contact information.
But definitely also how they can purchase your books, you know,
because I know that they are listening and they want
(44:36):
to read more.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
They definitely want to read more. Okay, So both books
are available on Amazon. Crushing Over Crossroads is the first
book I talked about, and From Vision to Divine Provision
as the second book. There's also two ways that two
other ways, and you can get to the books. Then
(44:59):
I have a web site.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Paul crassing Over Crossroads and then I also have a
website Vision to Divine Provision. So you could go to.
Speaker 7 (45:08):
Either one of those websites to get more information about
the book. You can also get it on Amazon. The
author is Fatima Linda Howard and that's Fatima spelled with
an hch to n fat I am a H and
you can reach me by email. My social media handles
(45:32):
are all with Linda Howard, So email.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Is engaged at with Linda Howard and then YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
all of those are.
Speaker 7 (45:44):
Are with Linda Howard, So you can reach me by
any of those ways. I'm available to do speaking, engagement,
coaching retreats. But also I hope that you do get
the book From Vision to Divine Provision, and I would
really love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
In the book, there's also contact information.
Speaker 7 (46:06):
Because this is a journey and I want to know
how other people are experiencing the journey with the book.
And I just want to say one other thing too,
before you know, before we wrap before we wrap up.
I think the book From Vision to Divine Provision is
(46:26):
very important because one of one of the reasons that
I wanted to write it from this perspective is because
there's a lot of information like where people are, you know,
want to do manifestation and you know, the book The
Secret and so you there's a lot of that that
(46:49):
kind of that New Age concept.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
And one of the things that.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
I find is that those those those concepts are not
they don't center you in God because it's it's saying.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Ask the universe.
Speaker 7 (47:04):
And my position is that the universe is created by God,
and so you know, it's better to ask the creator
and not to create it, and and so you know,
that's one of the things that you know, I try
to communicate that it's important for us to get this
(47:28):
connection to God and to and to not kind of
fall into that language, that new age language. Well, you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna ask the universe, the universe made
this happen when you know, when we should be praying
to God and understanding that all of our blessings are
coming from God, that's it.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
That's it, and that and that was very important. And
I'm so glad you said that because you know that
that is not something that shits will with me when
you you know, speaking on terms of seeking God, you
know that that doesn't it just doesn't align it. There
is a specific name for the higher being, and that
(48:10):
is God. That is God, not universe, not you know,
the the chakras and all this other stuff. It's just
so many different variables. But we we we'll be going
into a whole nother situation with that. But I truly
bless God for you, and I thank you. The listeners
are always blessed when you come on this platform. And
(48:31):
and again this is an open door policy. I will
always have you come back to speak about all the
other wonderful books that are birthing and all the other
things that are coming to you. Uh, you know, be
a God and his grace on your life. And I
just bless God that I found you. I don't even
remember how we found each other, but I bless God
(48:53):
that and and I have to say you you you could.
Bringing you on has grounded this platform because most people
just figure, oh, you know, you got to come on
this platform because you're a Christian, because you're a Baptist,
because you're again. It's no religion base here. It is
people that truly want to have a stronger relationship and
(49:15):
walk with God. And that's it. Names and titles don't matter,
you don't say, long as you know that there is
a higher presence, There is a being that is making
this thing all work together for His good and and
and that's what's important, you know. So I bless God
(49:36):
for you having to come on as you always do.
And and I'm going to tell the listeners you have
truly been blessed. And I just want to thank you
for coming every Tuesday, you know, without a doubt, coming
and being a part of this platform, you know, and
hearing the wonderful uh guests that come on and don't
(49:58):
have a problem showing you and teaching you and walking
you through this journey, this journey, because this journey ain't easy.
Right here, it ain't easy, But it is not easy,
my God, you know it is not an easy feat.
But we with the people and the many people that
come on this platform, it makes it an easier way
to look at how to reach that goal of getting
(50:22):
a better relationship, a closure relationship with God. So again
I thank you, But you know, at the end I
always asked this, my sister, if you were just we
begin with prayer and we're gonna leave with prayer, if
you wouldn't mind doing that for us on today?
Speaker 7 (50:43):
All right, okay, this may la Mara in the name
of Allah, the most Gracious, for ever merciful.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I asked that Allah guide us in our journeys.
Speaker 7 (50:58):
Guide our path God are walk, and that we be
given the ears to hear and the vision to see,
and that our hearts are opened, so yes, we can
be closer to to Allah, to God, to God, and
(51:21):
that our dreams are connected to God, and that our
dreams are fulfilled, and that we received the divine provision
that is already written for us.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yes, I mean hmm. God is good. God is good. Yes,
it is. It is a journey, it is a faith walk.
It is it is believing in trusting that that He
is leading us. He is the beginning and true is
the end of all things that are are are of Him.
(52:00):
And we just bless God that we could be used
for the for the uplisting of His UH spirit, that
it would reach the depths of the souls of those
that are listening to this platform or platforms such as this.
I just thank you so much this UH Honestly, again,
(52:20):
this is an open door policy. I want to thank
Positive Power twenty one and Jerry Royce who is detect
man behind this whole wonderful platform, and he has been
that for me for the what four years I think
I've been on this platform. I just won't leave. He
can't get rid of me because I just blessed God
for this. I'm telling you, what a wonderful opportunity to
(52:43):
be able to share in such a wonderful platforms such
as this. And again you always come and you bring
in this. So I thank you so much for being
all that you do for me. Thank you, and I
look forward to I look forward to coming back again. Yes,
this is always wonderful. You're always welcome. And now I mean,
(53:07):
and we got a few more minutes. You know, is
anybody you want to shout out? Do you want to
give somebody a shout out that might be literally?
Speaker 7 (53:16):
Yeah, I'm going to give a shout out to my
big sister Brenda Ruffan, And she is you know, as
I said, there were there were seven of us and
now there's two of us left, my sister Brenda. And
Brenda has been a real inspiration for me and my
(53:37):
support and you know, and we are both walking that
path to align with God. And you know, she's doing
it as a Christian and I'm doing it as a
Busslim and so I wanted to do that shout out,
do that shout out to her, and also just to
(53:57):
I mentioned that I, you know, started a sister circle
on Is called Sisters Stepfast then.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Fast Saturdays, and and those those sisters have been beautiful
and some of them travel over an hour to come
to my house once a month on on Saturdays, and
they have been just a God sent and a big
inspiration behind my book. So shout out to the sisters
(54:28):
that come to my house some months, I'm coming. I'm
gonna get there one day. I'm gonna get there one day.
I'm telling you I'm gonna get there. Because I even
posted up there was a young lady that was at
your house and she was she was promoting your book
and she was talking about I posted up on my
Facebook page. So listening to be. Anytime you want to
know more about this wonderful woman, you could definitely check
(54:51):
on my Facebook page, my Instagram page under paul Le Brionne,
and we will definitely have stuck to share. And again,
you know I again, thank you, my sister. You think.
And I'm trying to build my YouTube page, so everybody
go to my YouTube page and subscribe because I'm just
getting started on YouTube. So that's that's it. Well, honey,
(55:16):
don't talk to me because I'm computer dude. I tell
everybody when you come down to computer, I am truly
that generation that they said have to catch up. But
I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Lord, thank you listening. God, bless you, God, bless you,
love you, love you, and thank you, love you, God,
bless all. The testimony, the testimony, The testimony.
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