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July 4, 2025 99 mins
In this episode, the drink of choice is the classic Cuba Libre, and the boys welcome back a very special guest — Chicago Latino comedian Oscar Carbajal, the OG who helped launch the Daily Insomnia Podcast into the local comedy scene. They give Oscar his well-deserved flowers, catch up on his comedy journey, and reminisce on some early episodes. From updates on the Chicago grind to deep dives into soccer, the Gold Cup, and whether we'll ever see Mexico in a World Cup final — it's a full-circle episode you don’t want to miss. DEMON HOUR NEXT WEEK FRIDAY, TICKET LINK IN OUR IG & TIKTOK!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome back Daily Samia episode three sixty two.
I am your host, Ramone, and I got my lovely
co host here with me.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up, guys? Gamal is also here. I guys doing
the one only.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
And usually Gamal does this introduction for our guests, but
I'm gonna take over for just for today, just for today,
just because what this guy's done, what this guy has
done for dailysomnia is numbers. You can't really put.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
It in a box, can't put a value on it.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Can't put a value.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's priceless.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
When okay, when I say, when I think of Mexican comic,
when I think about my number one in the city,
there's only one person that comes to mind, and that
is Oscar. Before he says something, don't say anything yet,
don't say they stay stay in the shadows, stay the
shadow a little bit longer. Oscar for us is is

(00:52):
how how would I say?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
This?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
A pioneer, no critical to what we've become in the future.
Right because we started this podcast not having any comedians on.
We've had this podcast trying to get into the world
comedy and one guy when the fucking the bad you
know single went out came. This guy drove an hour

(01:16):
from whatever he was at the moment to our little
studio in bever there, and from him we got connected
to Camp Flores, we got connected to lobodn podcasts, Renee,
We've been, all the comics that are out here, all
the people that we've come to associate with. If it

(01:37):
wasn't for him, we're not here. If it wasn't for Oscar,
We're we're probably not Chicago realistically speaking, you know what
I mean. So when I think of my favorite comic
that is Mexican, that I consider a Mexican comic, not
that he does Mexican comedy, but just our number one noble,

(01:57):
you know what I mean, I like to call it, well,
our number one nobod.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
No more cactus for there.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
There's nobody better than Oscar.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Got back.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Welcome back, everybody, everybody, everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Look, I don't even thank he's been a way.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's almost a year. We finally actually.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
City, dude. Yeah, we've been all I think that.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
I think the last time I did the podcast, like
twenty twenty one or something like that, it's in the
middle of smash.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, you're the only you're the only got to fall
asleep in the podcast.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I was drinking that morning and then I took like
a one hour nap and I drove all the way
to Rockford show to the show, and then from there
we went to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I haven't drinking the whole morning.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, but I just took like an hour nap.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
But I want to show the picture that you just
fucking but I will find it.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
But it's like an opportunity five drive all the way
out there.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just been doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
We're just trying to do shows comedy, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
But you're a different man though. You're a different man
than when we had you last in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Literally the same guy me brought me like style wise
whole style wis It's like you have an age. I
haven't lost way, yeah yeah, yeah, you mean clean out.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I lost.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
I lost forty pounds at a certain point. I've since
gained like thirteen pounds back. But this is like my
normal win. It was like my normal way. But yeah,
it was a certain point in twenty twenty one, even
after the podcast, where I got to weigh two hundred
and eighty two eight, which was the most that I
ever weighed. And then so twenty twenty one was when

(03:34):
I did the last podcast that I was on the
way there?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, was it really twenty twenty one, dude?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Probably a probably, man, I would doubt it.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
What happens to the rest of the time COVID No,
I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
And then the latest it was it was twenty twenty two.
The latest it could have been because I remember the
apartment I was living at the time and we moved
out of their twenty twenty two, so the ladies that
could have been was twenty twenty two, but I think
it was twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
And yeah, and then like about a year and a
half later.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I was finally weighing one sixty eight, so I lost
forty pounds and then but my regular level of weights
like one seventy five to like one eighty two round there.
So that's where I'm at right now, somewhere around there.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah good, Yeah, Yeah, No, dude, you're one of those
people man that when we see dude, it's like I
enjoy seeing you. I enjoyed that, I enjoy running to
Oscar like when it comes we hope we don't. Yeah,
because it's right like just a lot of Don't get
me wrong, there's just comics that I enjoy seeing that
I enjoy running to. But you're one of our what

(04:41):
I could least consider like our boys.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like when I go, like, fucking look at it is
fucking Oscar. Yeah, you know you it's like you, it's
you know, Kevin. You can you cannot not run into Kevin.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Kevin's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, cameras right, you know what I mean, you run
into Kevin. Louise is another guy, you know, Ruben. You know,
like those those are the people that we know. We
run into it. We're like, like, look at this man,
it's one of our boys. You're just kind of like
you're like a like I said, man, you're almost like

(05:16):
like the reason why I look at it, you know
what I mean, Like I kind of yeah, you kind
of you kind of show we need the most dude,
you know what I mean? And like I said, man,
you've been killing the dude. I you know, like I said,
I think you're you know, number one Mexican comic in
the city. You know, no, no offense to Ruben.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
No, I mean, first of all, Rubin is not from
the city from.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
No.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I mean Ruben is killing the game.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And he was killing it in his own right.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
But no, and I respect o G.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
So I will never even if I think so, I
would never publicly say that I'm better than and stuff
like that, you know, like I respect and they're always
going to be on top of me.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's deffinitent. It's diferent, becau the way I look at you, man.
But yeah, I think I can put you in a
Mexican heavy crowd and you would kill. And I could
put you on a white heavy crowd.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I killed in front of Muslim crowds. Bro. Yeah, yeah
a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah. No.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
There used to be a comedian named Mona.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I think she's in Palestin right now, and she used
to run the show. She used to run the show
in like in the South Side, and it was like
a hookah bar full of like women in burkas.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
I remember when did that show and it was all
Muslims and it was just me, like they all buy
with me, bro are They all laughed and like that.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
So it was fine.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
And then there's another show that they do in the
North Side between like Foster and Lincoln, and.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Now there they do get a very diverse crowd.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
They get like a lot of like black people, Latinos
and Muslims and stuff like that. They get a very
but the producers are Muslims and no, and I always
do Welder.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So yeah, it's I've seen you the white crowd and
Belder dude at a pizza shop that closed down actually
last year, and he killed it. He killed it the
first three four openers. Ah, damn very tough. Honestly, it's
coming in the suburbs right coming up north. Very very
It's lacking, honestly, but came in clean it up there.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, Like you answer me this question, bro, you still
get nervous because it doesn't seem like you do get nervous.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
You you know what.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
The thing that makes me nervous the most I will
say is when there's people I know, if it's like
a regular audience just there and I don't know anybody
personally in my life.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
No, I'm not nervous. Hyeah. I don't get nervous anymore.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
I just maybe if I go up first, I get
a little nervous because I still don't know the crowd yet.
But if I go up like second or third and
the first comedian, I already did well well the first
comedian I already did bad. Then I already know what
to expect, like, oh they didn't like this, they like
And I don't get nervous anymore. And don't get me wrong,
I love the people that I know in my personal
life that go to my shows, and I appreciate them

(08:07):
with all my heart.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
But yes, it is a little harder when you go.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
And do a show and my sister's in the front
row and this guy went to high school with in
right here at this table, right You know, it's a
little different because you feel the judgment more, you know
what I'm saying. And I've had good experiences, though most
of the time they're just oh you were funny or
you were like this, But before it, I still get
nervous a little bit before that.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, you do you rather follow a bad set for
someone else you come in knowing knowing that you're going to.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Do good, or you rather follow someone that did good.
I raally follow someone that did good, like not. I mean,
if someone murdered murdered, like destroyed, then it's really hard
to follow. But I would rather follow someone that they're
kind of good, they little good. If someone did bad.
The only way I would like following them is if
if there was other comedians before that person that did good,

(08:56):
because then I know, like, it's not the crowd, it's
this guy or this girl was garbage, you know. So
I know, so I'm not worried about that because I
know I'm not going to be garbage, or at least
I think I'm not going to be garbage, right, But
if it's like the first comedian and he does bad,
then after that, I'm like, I'm still worried because I'm like, shit,
I don't know if the crowd is good or if
the comedian was bad, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,

(09:16):
so yeah, But honestly, like I would rather follow someone
that already has the crowd warm up, that was doing well.
And obviously it's harder to follow someone that just bomb
completely because the room is like they don't know what's
going on or they lost trust on the show already.
But yeah, no, follow someone that they're good, not someone
necessarily that destroyed you know.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah what I mean, like lost trust in the show
because I feel like him.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
No, no, no, no, there's a lot of people that go
to comedy shows that I feel that I've never been
to a comedy show.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
They're not sure is it going to be good? Is
it going to be bad? And then they go up
and the first comedian is bad.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
They're like, I made a mistake coming out here, you know,
like so so so yeah, so they lost the trust
in the show already, you know, like and I've seen
it happen.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I've seen it happen.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Bro like when I like, like it showed specifically, like
at two different shows that I'd done both of them
years ago, but it was like the first two comedians
did bad, and the crowd was like at that point,
the crowd was like, I'm just gonna wait out the show.
And I saw and I saw really good comedians come
after that would normally kill with those sets, and the

(10:22):
crowd was just wasn't into it anymore, you know. They
they just didn't want to be part of the show
no more. And I'm like, you know, the crowds, the
crowd lost trust on the show.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, were these shows more like kind of like bar
shows or that they actually like well you know, set
up like like little venues.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Well, one of them ones at the I want to
say this was twenty seventeen. One of them ones at
the there's a little like it's not the Annoyance Theater,
but it's like five buildings down from the Annoyance Theater.
It's right there on Bellmont and by between Sheffield and
Clark And it's a theater too, but I forgot the

(10:56):
name of it, but it's around the.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Corner from the from the Big Theater.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
And then that was like a like a regular show.
And I don't know why, but it's just like and
there was good comedians too, but it just as soon
as the first two comedians didn't do well, like the
Crouch just didn't laugh at anything. So like the next
four or five day everyone just bombed and it was like,
you know what, it was crazy because I was like,
after the first two comedians didn't do well, there's this
comedian named Mickey Houseley, who I'm not sure if he's

(11:23):
in Chicago anymore, but he's hilarious. I kind of told
the producer like put Mickey Houseley next dude, so the
so the audience could regain the confidence on the show.
But the producer didn't want to change the lineup anymore.
And then and then like other comedians went up I
went up, and even Mickey Houseley went up at the end,
and nobody did well. Nobody did well, and I was like,

(11:43):
maybe if they had just listened to me and put
Mickey Houseley up earlier, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, kind of little hell married No, I think the
lineup always matters, man, every time we do a show,
we always especially in the comics that we know already,
you know, I like to never start with a slow starter.
I always like to start with somebody who's going to
bring up the energy, and then second person who goes
up it can kind of be more of a person
who a little bit more like you.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Know, there's because there's a lot of different philosophies.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
And I'm of that philosophy that you are, but there's
a lot of philosophy. Like comedians, they try to put
like what they think are the best comedians all at
the end, and then like they start with the worst one,
not necessarily the worst one, but who they think is
the worst one, yeah, and slowly put whoever they think
is better one by one.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah, I always feel like you got to put your
second or third best comedian right up.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Front, for sure, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
The crowd.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, there's just different philosophies. I just think
sometimes that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Depends well, I think it depends because we're just trying
to do a straight, just comedy show.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Just stand up.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I mean that's kind of always been the thing, right,
the best persons ahead of yeah versus.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
We still keep we still keep our not I mean
I want to say always, but at least usually we
still keep like the heavy hitter at the end, Yeah
you should, but we like to start somebody who high
energy to begin with, where you can bring it back down.
We never have two comics doing the same type of comedy, right,
So we never have like two Latino comics back to
back because I think that's just thirty minutes of Latino comedy.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah right, but half the room is white.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, you know, we want you know, and we have
like for example, let's say we have we start and
you're on the same you know, you're the same line,
and we can't have you go right back. We have
whoever is in between the diversity. The only thing that
we do do that Gamal's heavy on, heavy on. If
there's a black comic on our showing, he's gonna murder

(13:38):
it last every single time.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I'm like, I'm like five or five, six or six
on that, dude. The fucking crowd loves them.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Dude. There's a lot of times black comics.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
In the stick with it.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
What's the thing because our room is predominantly white.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, you know a couple of Latinos here and there
probably uh maybe a couple black folks every time.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah here on there too.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah. We had our last show, our last commedy show
we have with Demon Hour. You know Rambo, right, Rambo
Alex Alex Rambos. Okay, yeah, he's our producer. So he
produced the show. Now with four of us, we can't
we can make it. But we had him do the
Chicago Pope. Yeah, so we haven't dressed up as the pope.

(14:26):
He came in bears jacket, bears jacket he did, he did,
you know, the whole bit as fucking killed it. Fucking
killed it, I mean. And then Demon Hour as it is,
it is base off you know, the Catholic religion, Right,
there's a confessions all this ship that we do, so
a lot of it comes from the Catholic base. So

(14:46):
when we you know, obviously now perfect time where the
pope is from Chicago. You know, my boy came in
and fucking killed it. And moving forward is probably gonna
be a bit going on to the next show, to
the next show, to the next show. This is fucking murdered.
But why did I bring it up?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Just I mean we're talking about the different energy is like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Different energy. It's like it's it's a nice separation from
the show because Demon hour end of the day. You know,
we have the comics do up there. You know, they
come through there, you know, eight ten minutes and then
and then the second half of the show it is
the confession and that's what we care about. The first
eight minutes is just.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
For distinguishes the show from the shows, right, you.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Know, we just want people to get to know the
comic that's going to be on the show. But overall
for us, what matters for me is the confession segment.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Those people don't want you to have an amazing set. Yeah,
I mean you you you have an amazing set. You're
setting up, you're setting yourself up for success. That comes
on to the Demon and a.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Lot of people have redeemed itself. They had a terrible
set and they come on to the Demon hour segment
and they kill it. Yeah, you know, and that's the
beauty of it.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Couple people could kill both.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know what I'm saying. It's amazing. I'm saying, you
do that. That's great.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
We're here, okay, okay, right.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
All we're doing is this team right now.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, hold, grabbed the balls.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
You got the balls. I'll stay up here. I'll stay
up here. You see two hands.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I'm not complaining about it. I'm not against this. I'm
pro this.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Hey, but don't look. It's good.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
We're not doing that. I'm not pro that. I'm an
I'm anti that. See, I had it done, right, dude,
That's why I haven't had done at all.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'm pushing for you. I'm pushing for you. I want
I want good click and health care. That's why i'm
ever pol speaking.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Right, that's great.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
You know, you know, you know, ask us a little
tipsy when you start seeing this.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I've always asked my license since since I was in
high school.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
People always thought I was high, and I was I've
never been a heavy we smoker, I know, but you've
never been a heavy smoking even in high school, which
is probably the time that I smoked the most weed. Yeah,
I probably smoked like once every two three weeks at
that time, and people will call me high times. There
was a group of high Times because they thought I
was always high. But that's because of My eyes are

(17:23):
like when I'm sleepier, when I drink a little and
stuff like that, my eyes get real.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
My eyes, my eyes get real.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Small picture from the last podcast, literally the last podcast.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, do you literally fell asleep on the podcast?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I didn't fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
We literally had the video going like this, like the
crazy thing is let you drive?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, no, no, no no wait wait So I mean
we we told you, say actually we know we told you.
We still kept we kept you around another hour. Yeah,
we were like, well I.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Am so we're drinking a little.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
But then were like, then we'll kick him out, you know,
but we waited. We wait, We were like, you know what,
my boy's sucking.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
No.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I mean There's been days where I've blacked out and
I've drove me home and I'm like and I'm like,
how do I get home that day?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
That day?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Allegedly, of course, yeah, that day I remember everything, so
I know, like, so I know it.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Was good, you know its good? Was here?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
We will put up the video because it's so funny.
It's so funny. It's literally you we're having a conversation.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
I have no.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
I've seen, I mean, I've seen a couple of videos
of it. I've seen a couple of clips of everything,
clips from.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
We Don't put this over the clips.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
There's like, yeah, there's like one or two one or
two clips about that podcast you guys put up.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
And now I've seen the clip. Yeah, I look like
I look drunk.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah no, no, no, no, you drunk, legend.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Look look you you were Legendly I drove home like
the allegedly allegedly and a.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Half and a half and still stop by McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I don't remember, dude. So we were talking about soccer, Okay,
so we were, you know, me and him were going
on the tantrum. Yeah you're kind of you're more in
the shadows when it comes to the world soccer, right.

(19:27):
But I was saying that there's because there's a symptoms conspiracy.
So I don't know if you guys know this about
this at all, but but the symptoms have multiple there's
multiple things that they have put in their epistoles that
they they become fuition or people.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, yeah, they say they become true.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
They become true, right like they they I think did
Trump being president? The COVID COVID was one of multiple things.
I wish I had a list, but there's been multiple
things that they have, you know, prophesied, you want to
say in that way. You know what they prophesized for
this World Cup? You know the finalist?

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yes, I know the game that you're talking about. No,
I know the game you're talking about, but it was
it was it was a Mexico or Portugal.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I think that's the game you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, they have Mexico and Portugal for this World Cup.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
They didn't prophesize that there was a game in one
episode where.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
No no, no, no, no, no no, they go watch it.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I think it is the world It's not the World Cup,
Si no no no no. So this is a really
old episode. It's still in my time when I used
to watch the episode where they bring a game to
Springfield and the commercial makes it seem like it's going
to be really interesting game and the people of Springfield,

(20:53):
people of Springfield go watch it. Yeah, but it's in
Springfield the game I know. And then what is Americans
realized it's going to be. They start getting bored and
they start like a riot in the stands, and then
even even the Scottish guy was his name Willie, really
Willie's like they want to see.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
What a soccer riot is like. And then they get
to the Scottish friends and they start a whole riot.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Because the game is boring to them. Yeah, so let me,
let me let me but I'm not sure if that
was a World Cup final or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
So let me interfere man.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
A popular fan theory suggests that Simpsons predict Mexico versus
Portugal World Cup final in twenty twenty six is false.
The show did feature promotional spot for a soccer match
bet the two nations, but there not specific specify a
year on ply that it would be a final.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Okay, yeah, no that they didn't have that game.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Game, but it cam in nineteen ninety seven. Episode was
called The Cartridge Family seven Good time, all.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right, So.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Let's throw a little bit of history too it right,
So the best that Mexico's ever done in the World
Cup has been in a Mexican World Cup.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, both of them.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Both of them?

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
They run the round sixteen? No, no, run a quarter finals,
run away quarterfinals. So Mexico, that's as far as the
Mexicans ever got, right, So Mexico's being is So the
next World Cup is being hosted in Canada, Mexico and
six right, the three countries we're sharing the hosting duties.
When it comes to that. Portugal just won the Nations League.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
In Europe first time, right, first time I ever played it.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
First time, first time for the Nation League.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Actually the second time they won the They won the
very first one I think it was twenty nineteen, and
then they won this one.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oh so they're back to back. No not back to back.
No no, no, this is like the fourth tournament. Okay,
they played every other year.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Now No no, no, they won the euro No no, no, they
also won the Europe. Yeah, they also won the Europe.
They won the UROE in twenty sixteen. They won the
original Nations League in twenty nineteen, then France won in
twenty twenty one, Spain one in twenty twenty three, and
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Was Portugal this up before I'm talking. You see Dode
he give the winner in that game? Who in the
symptoms show where?

Speaker 3 (23:09):
No, they just start pressing the ball, and then people
start writing.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
That's what it was. Did you show that Mexican versus
Portugal and that's it.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's what I remember that.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
They just start pressing the ball around and then there's
no actual score at the end.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
No, and then and then people start writing that that's
what I remember the episode.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Like, obviously I haven't seen this episode, like I haven't
either twenty years, but I've seen the clip of it.
Like now, I'm not gonna say right now, but maybe
a couple of years ago I saw a clip of it,
and I don't remember them having a score other than room.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
In saying that insane that Mexico's done their best when
it's been hosted in Mexico. Mexico's current team right now
doesn't give the illusion. No, it doesn't that we could
reach that level. But let's just pretend. Let's pray man,
because I don't I don't let me ask you this question.
They say yes, no, right, don't think about it. Don't

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give me any reason. I'll start with you because you're
the least per this conversation. Mexico wins a World Cup
in your lifetime, yes or no, No, Mexico wins the
World Cup in your lifetime yes to no, No, it
has me.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I hope they do. I mean I hope they do.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Does Mexico want to World Cup in your lifetime?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
No?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Sad, sad, sad reality its sad.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
If Mexico wants to World Up in my lifetime, yeah,
I will have to live like at least seventy eighty
years and it would be towards the end of my life. Yeah,
I mean yeah, yeah, because they have to change so
much in the structure of Mexican soccer, so it would
take ten twenty years for it to affect it, you know,
because like right now, Mexico will I don't want more

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people without a soccer talk about it's.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
A There was this when I was growing up.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
There was only five foreign players and allowed in the
Mexican soccer team.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Still is.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
They kept no, they kept moving up and they got
to a point where it was even ten Mexican players
they could play foreign players. That means there was a
lot of teams that were only putting one Mexican player,
like how are we gonna, you know, how are we gonna?
They put it onto nine. She was the only team

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that plays with around Mexicans.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Not anymore.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
But are the other seventeen teams. That means we're only
required to have thirty four players that are Mexicans. How
are you gonna put a team together when you only
have thirty four professional soccer player you know, it's it's
not it's nah. So this happened like in twenty ten
to twenty eleven, I right away side and I'm like,

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this is we're not gonna feel the effects of it.
So like in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, and
now we're starting to see the effects of it. Like
I told you earlier, we can't find a better left
defender than this guy. We can't find a good right defender.
Why because we don't have any right defenders or any
left defenders playing in Mexicos. They're all foreigners, you know
what I'm saying. Like, now's showing the effects. So if

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Mexico reverses that, if they played like now, way out
of play with mostly Mexicans, we're not going to feel
the effects of it till.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
If Mexico does win the World Cup and they start
implementing good decisions for Mexican soccer, we won't feel the
effects of it for twenty thirty years.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I would say the opposite. So that would be that,
because that would be an argument that you can use
against all the other leagues, right, because the same you
could say, the same people Spanish lead the English League,
all those leagues, right, the majority of their best players
are not from that country, right. Obviously they're playing in
better leagues. So even like there're the players that are
not playing it like starting just the in better leagues.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
But I think what hurts in Mexico the most is
that Mexican wants stupid money for the young players and
young players. Young players can make more money in Mexico
playing than they can at a higher level teams. No
of course, of course, so there's greed, there's greed in

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the federation, and there's green amongst the players, which makes
sense because I mean, you have a small window play soccer.
So can I Should I stay making in Mexico and
play you know, you know this level, but I can
you know, make sure my family is well off at
the end, or do I go to Europe and possibly

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possibly get to that point where I can make some
money or just get the bare minimum at the European Well.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
There's there's a lot of problems with different different soccer.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
I would say one is that is that Mexican wages
and the detriment of the national team. Mexican wages are good,
so it's not like Brazila, Argentina and Uruguay were where
they're not making any money. European team offers are very little.
They're still making more at Mexico. Most players that leave
Mexico taking the pay cut.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Small head I'm getting with mcdonald'srightmy hard hit me fucking hard.
Sorry now, sorry, right now in the face I took.
I took a haymaker. I was like, sorry.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Not only are Mexican players taking the pay cup when
they leave to Europe, but also Mexican players and this
is most of soccer. This is not like the n
b A or like the NFL where they have free
agencies and ship like that. Most of these players are
owned by teams. They don't in Mexico. They don't allow
free agents. As a matter of fact, it's called which

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is like they can't enforce it legally, but the teams.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Have a they call it they have a pack.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
That is like if your player becomes a free agent
and he doesn't sign with you again, so you could
sell them none of us will ever hire him again.
It actually happened to soccer player that passed away like Antonio,
he could never play in Mexico died.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Antonio the older one, oh not from like I mean
they were, was the one you probably remember most.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Antonio Niggas was older. He also played in the national team,
but once he didn't want to sign back with his team,
he never played in Mexico again. So his last six
seven years of his career he had to keep finding
teams around the world to play. He played in Colombia,
he played in Brazil, he played in Japan, He played
a bunch of countries because he can never come back
because he didn't want to re sign with Monterey, which
is the team that so they have that so it's

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the team that owns them. So some players are willing
to take the pay cut to go to Europe, but
if the team is not willing to offer them the team,
if the European team is not willing to offer the
Mexican team a decent amount of money, the Mexican team
would just reject the offer. So that we have that
working against the Mexican players to go to Europe for sure,
and so that there's a lot of things that are that.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Are wrong that Mexican.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
The Mexican sier has to change in order if they
want to prioritize for us to ever have a chance
of winning the World Cup.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
You know. The only way changes that is you are
all the old heads they're in that federation. It just
what's norms. You gotta get a new ball in there. Yeah,
but I mean it's kind of hard to transfer if
there's ownership.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
It's like there's a there's a there's a team in
La Liga who just got promotion. Real yeah, it's a
Mexican owned team, Georgians.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
It's it's the team that the guys they're Argentina actually,
but they own Pachuca and they only own.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
They're famous for owning New Mexican. They're not Mexican, but
they've been.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
In Mexico for they've been in Mexico for like twenty
thirty years, so they're part of Mexican soccer. Okay, okay,
so but they owned Pachuca. They only own and they
own like and they own.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Ok yeah, right, So that's that's the gay way and.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Then because because it is actually he's the main owner,
and everyone is like this is even though he's Argentinian,
everyone is like, this is the guy that's doing the
most for Mexican soccer anybody else because.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
He is his team Pachuca.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
You know they play with like ten players that are
under twenty twenty two, right, you know they play with
young players.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
They play with a lot of Mexican players. They they
do a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Of under players. Is getting scouted right now, right when
they're players against scout right now? Yeah, yeah, you possibly
go to PSV.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Oh I'm not sure where they're going, but yeah, the
game is scouter, Yeah yeah, yeah, and he's well he's
on Pachuca. Has in the last ten years have they
have they sold Thatch, they saw Piado, they sold this
is so they've they create young Mexican Italians. So they've
they've done a lot of good for Mexican soccer.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, we suspect you, but yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
No, I don't think if they new Mexico doesn't make
those necessary changes now or within the next five years,
I don't think Mexico will ever win a World Cup
in our lifetime.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
It isn't that sad.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
It's sad.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
It's sad because Mexico is a big country, is a
populist country.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Is a huge country man, and we're known for soccer.
At least when it comes to the United States, people
go like Mexican players, you know what I'm saying. But man,
it's so sad because I can't have and I don't
think they will. You know what I'm saying this, I
don't think Unics States will beat us to the World Cup.
But I can't have that either, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like,

(32:27):
I can't have United States beat US a World Cup.
I am Team USA. When it comes to basketball, women,
flag football, fucking flag football, women, n behavior, I'm team USA.
But when it comes to fucking soccer, dude, I would
never ever ever root for Team USA. It's it's emboded

(32:51):
in my body. I see that team play. I want
him to lose to Jamaica. I want him to lose
to Dominic Republic. I want him to lose single. I
cannot root for that.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
No, I can't rune if it's a waither like I
don't want USA to win a World Cup before US, obviously,
And but the reason I don't think USA will win
a World Cup is because the general public doesn't care. Yeah,
and you have countries like Argentina, Brazil, France, Spain, England, Germany.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Italy where you know that religion. Yeah, the media cares,
you know, the media. The media is actually you know,
with pressuring and pressuring and pressuring and pressuring.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Like in Mexico and the United States. Like the USA
loses a game, people care about. The main sport here
is the NFL, and then you could say basketball and
the MLB afterwards, you know, I mean people put hockey
up there, but I would say that's definitely the fourth.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, you know, and then but yeah, people don't care.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
People if you know, if USA doesn't win a game,
they don't care. But you know in Brazil or Argentina,
you know, the people can even riot over you know.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Would you say, though, that this current team that United
States has is their most talented team.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
A man, I don't know if their most talented team.
I think, yeah, definitely most praised in Europe. But I
think that two thousand and two team that made it
to the quarterfinals was really talented too. It's just those players,
weren't they weren't.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I think it's easier to leave Europe to Europe.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Nowadays than it wasn't at that time. But I think
that and two team was really talented with Donovan Raining. Yeah,
all those guys were really super talented too. They just
maybe they didn't have the profile that these players are
all in Europe. But the quarterfinalsals today and that game
against Germany they lost in the quarterfinals. It was a

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really tough game. It was like literally like like one
zero and it was like the USA had their chances
and stuff like that. And USA had eliminated Mexico the
game before, and they not only that, but in the
group stage they eliminated Portugal and they beat them. They

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beat Portugal and then they uh it was uh and they.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
The group was the favorites were.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Portugal and Poland to make it to the next round,
and USA and Korea made it to the next round.
That was crazy because the two teams that weren't expected
to make it made it out of the group stage.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
And yeah, they ended up in the quarterfinals too. In
twenty fourteen, no USA, but the laskainst Belgium.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
No, that was the wrong sixteen sixteen Theron sixteen, Yeah,
they lost against Belgium and the yeah, I think it
was in overtime, right it was.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was like yeah, yeah, other chances to no.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah. They didn't have a lot of no.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
And Belgium had a really tied the team at that
time too. It was twenty fourteen eighteen, they had.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Their team, Belgium. Belgium is the most disappointed team within
the last like eight years, because they had.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
All the talent, they had really good pairers.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I had Belgium winning last the last last World Cup.
I had Belgium as my one of my dark holes
are dark horses.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
I'll tell you this that Matino, he was coach of
Mexico and he he he said this once and I
agree with him in a sense. He's like, I've been
watching soccer since the nineteen seventy eight World Cup, and
the big teams have always been the big teams. Brazila's
always been big, Argentina has been big, Italy has always
been big Germany has always been big, Uruguay, the Netherlands, England, France.

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He's like, the only team that I've seen in the
last forty years become a big team has been Spain.
So that that I think that gives you a dimension
of how hard it is to go from a average
team to becoming a big team. So I think Belgium,
even though they had the talent, they were never a
big team. So it's so difficult to just become a big.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Ten it is. I mean it even if they did.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Have that golden generation the Hasar brothers and Kevin de
Growing and yeah, no, no, it was a golden generation.
But in twenty fourteen they lost like as a big
tams on Argentina and then twenty eighteen against France, another
big team. You know, like like they are a talented team,
but when they face the big teams, it's it's crazy

(37:29):
how we always say this team is growing, this team
is doing this, but it's always the same people that
won the World Cup.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Is it coaching?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
What is it? Is it?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I mean, yeah, coaching, coaching is everything too.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
I mean it's a number of factors. You have talent,
but you can't put the chemistry together then.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
And I think that's one thing that hurts Mexico because
we can't just like, like I understand, I want to
be fair. I want to give all the players their
time to play, right, but we have to lock it
in and be like, these are the fucking eleven players
are gonna play because we want to build a chemistry.

(38:06):
Let's stop changing them every game. Stick to a lineup,
even if it doesn't work, stick to it, stick to
it because at least time should build more chemistry. But
when you're changing the lineup every game, like so right now,
currently the Gold Cup is going out right now, right,
We've had three different lineups when it comes to the
upfront in the last three games. Right, why why?

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Now?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I just think I get this on sure who should
be started?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
So he's trying to stick to one to one and
just let it happen. Let it happen. Yeah, you could
do small changes throughout the game, but starting with two
with three different lineups, I mean, at least when it
comes to the upfront, it's fucking crazy. We're not gonna
build chemistry like that, you know what I mean. I
one or two players can change it out, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
But I guess I would have said tactics are the same, right.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. Mexico's counter teach every countertack. It's
kind of even if we have control the ball, it's
always counter attack. That's nice soccer.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Contact.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
That's really that's that's I just think we're missing uh
which could probably be big, but I think we're just
missing the player that can put the through balls like
we I think we depend a lot on the humans is,
especially in the like nations. Like I said, we depended
a lot on just his yeah and his magic and

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whatever he came up with.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
You know, yeah, Machine.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I like Machine. He's big, he's tall, but Machine can't
put through balls like that, Like he's just not built
for that. He's a tall guy. He's good in defense,
he's big, he can defense and stuff like that. But
he Machine is just like his passes are just to
the side or to the back side, to the back
He's not going to put the ball through, which I
think someone like back in the day is like ten

(39:58):
years ago. Like I was telling you, a Chacchi could
do that or Guardalo could have done that, and my
chin just doesn't have that skill set for sure.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Where do you see Mexico going to the next World Cup?

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Next World Cup?

Speaker 4 (40:12):
I think they got a group, yeah, making that out
of the group, Yeah, I mean next we're gonna be home.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
I think sixteen again, I think.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Sixteen is the that's home realistically, like the you know,
the home.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Realistically.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Let's say that the best teams in the world right now,
like just watching them play. I'm not saying the teams
that achieved the most, but you have teams like Argentina,
like France, like Spain, like Portugal. I think those are
the four best teams in the world right now when
you see them playing, you see Mexico play, these guys
are on other level.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Mexico's not top four.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
The only way we will ever make it to the
top four is if those teams have to eliminate each
other in the previous round for some reason, right, Like,
are you Argentina has to play Portugal in the quarterfinals
or something like that, But.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Like we're not at that level.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Yeah, even the quarterfinals seems a little you know, are
we really better than Columbia? Are we really better than
like you know what I'm saying, like in the Netherlands
than England. Then, so I think that with the level
that we have that we're home. I think realistically round
sixteen again, yeah, hopefully we could because of whole quarter
bands that could take us, yeah to the quarterfinals, whom

(41:25):
I doubt it.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
I doubt it.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Who makes it far in the United States, Mexico, Canada,
Mexico or do we all cut out at sixteen?

Speaker 3 (41:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
You know, sometimes I feel like Canada has a really
good team, but then the next game I see him
and then oh, they lose against this other team because
they be Handora is the first game and then they
last against Like, like, you know, Canada has a really
good team, but I don't know if they're Like I said,
it's different. It's the one thing having a good team.
It's another thing becoming a great team. And during the

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World Cup with that pressure, you know, But I don't no,
I think.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
They're they're all equally bad.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
There are then the equal Yeah runner sixteen one of
the three I would say, you was saying kind that
have more of a chance, But it could be Mexico.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
One of the threes might make it to the quarterfire.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
You can put a letter grade. What are you putting
on the three teams? Do you put a letter grade
when the letter is either the no?

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Well in just in in general soccer and world soccer.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Also, yeah, I mean they're not.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
I mean they're still top twenty five twenty teams in
the world, which is the world's like two hundred countries.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
So it's still there. But yeah, but they're not.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
As much in soccer though anymore.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, but you know, you remember when Mexico was top three.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
You're in the moment.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I think I think there was like four in our lifetime.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Were rankings, but twelve thirteen.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
I don't know, but it was like they were like
top three team.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
No, I think there were.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
They got to be number four right before the toes
and the six World Cup.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Actually I rank number four.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
I don't think there were ever number four, but I
do think there was a period where Mexico was top ten. Yeah,
I do think there was a period like we had
that talent to be top ten. I don't think we're
top ten anymore. I think we're scratching top twenty, but
we might be like twenty one twenty two now, like
I feel like, like, but yeah, I think there was
that period when the world I had the team, when

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Mexico was like top ten easily.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Well, let me ask you this question. Mexico win the
World Cup twenty twenty six, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty six,
you cry.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
I don't know if I will cry I mean, definitely,
I will be happy, super happy.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
But I don't know how to think about it, because
just prior prior to this moment, we had a conversation
saying that Mexico's and win the World Cup in our lifetime.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I don't know if I'm a crier when we when
I'm I.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Get emotional, did I'll get emotional?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Certainly emotional, certainly emotional.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Let me ask you this, when Mexico beat Germany in twenty.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
It wasn't it was the moment.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
It was you guys discarded this earlier when I told
you about it. But the most proud that I've ever
been in Mexico, the most happy I've been was when
we won the Olympics and.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
It was Brazil and it was.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
I don't remember crying, but I do remember being happy
in a sense like shut that down, you know, you know,
you know I went to sleep like I didn't think
Mexico's gonna wait, Like no, the game was earlier, remember
it was earliest game, and I was like no, no, no, it.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Was in the morning, like eight or nine in the morning.
It was something like that.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
And I do remember being happy, like happy, like like
when I lost my virginity happy like something like that,
you know, like happy, like I just remember being really happy, Like.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I was scared when I.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Afterwards scared up, but afterwards you were happy.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Like I finally like you know what I'm saying, Like
I did it. I fucked everything I've been jagging off
to this whole time. I finally finally did it, you
know what I'm saying, Like like I remember being I
remember Mexico winning the Olympics being one of like easily
top ten happiest moments in my life.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Easily.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Also, I mean you got to think about it. It
felt like like, all right, we're seeing something. Yeah, yeah,
I've comment to fruition, We're going to see.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Something in Mexico. Mexico is one thing that's the issue.
That's the thing that I didn't see that that hurts
us the most. Because we've won the Confederations Cup, right,
We've gotten close to winning Copa America, we won the
gold in the Olympics, we won sub seventeen for the
World Cup, you know twice, right twice, And it's just

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like it's a lot of like I mean, that's the
thing that it has always been about Mexico, right.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Yeah, it's definitely we've won enough specifically, but now that
generation is over.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
We gotta be honest with that.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
But that that that specific generation where we won the
seventeen that Bela, Jctor Moreno, Francuirez, and then we won
twenty eleven, and then we won twenty twelve, there was
specifically like we won the World Cup twenty seventeen, the
U seventeen my bad twice and we won the the

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Olympics with an under twenty three team with obviously with
reports is noway Comes Soco and Corona, like we have
more expectations of that generation, and that that generation was
the generation that played the twenty fourteen and twenty eighteen
World Cups.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
But that's it.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
That it didn't make it farther than the previous generations.
You know, it didn't make it farther than the previous
seven World Cups. Now that generation is done. I mean Bella,
Bella retired already, GERMANI retired already.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Actor Moreno, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
I don't think he's retired, but he's not playing the
national team anymore. Tao Is should retire already. Like yeah,
like that generation we thought I could do something is.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Gone I know, I know, I.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Pasted and we didn't get anything out of them, like
and we just got to the run of sixteen like
everyone else. And even in the last World Coup, we
didn't even make it past the first round.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's been a lot of you know,
as a Mexican, you know, there's always been a little
bit of like it's been the world's been against us,
especially when it comes to work up. There's there's multiple
especially Warsina, we put Artina. We're not going to make
it out of anything because somehow those motherfuckers always get

(47:41):
the benefit of the album. And there's been so many
moments within the World Cup history where we've gotten fucked
because we're Tina, not because they play us, but overall,
like I mean, I'm thinking about I can just pinpoint
right now, the the Carlos Stevisco, it was off size.

(48:01):
I mean, you couldn't be more offside stereo science.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
And then what happens, and then Mexico was playing better
up to that point. Up to that point, we were
playing better.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
When when Argentina played Mexico in the last Wold Cup.
So many moments where I could have seen yellow cars,
red cars, go off and yeah, nothing happened, And I said, man, like,
there's two teams I hate in soccer, USA Agentina, I wouldever,

(48:33):
I would never for another Robin. Robin is a liar.
I don't care about that. But Argentina the United States
are my two most hated teams when it comes to
the World Cup. Our root for Jamaica, Our root for Japan.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Jamaica's making it until the next World Cup.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah yeah, I'll root for Japan. I'll root for fucking Netherlands.
I was for England. I wrote for Spain. Yeah, sorry,
I started calling. I started going into my my twenty
three and me and I'll go full Spania dude. But
when it comes to those two teams unite stage Nartina,
I hate him. That's why I'm not a messy guy.
I messy, phenomenal player when the best ever I do

(49:17):
A fucking A fucking fan boy too. I'm not a
fan boy of Foy. I don't consider myself a fan
boy of of mess Naldo and I used to.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Watch this show.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
It doesn't happen more, but I'm sure I heard of it.
So the two main guys it was a Rowaiian guy
called Ramos and the other.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Argentina guy they talking about the guy from.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
It has the same name.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
He has the same name, but it's a different guy.
They kind of indoctrinated me as to like, if you're
not from that country, you shouldn't support a team from
that country, which is really rare because everyone now they
supported Madrio Barcelona or PSG or whatever. But they kind

(50:09):
of indoctrinated me when I was young. So I never
never got to support either Ra Madrio Barcelona, you know.
So I so the people that don't like Christiano Ronaldo
or because their Barcelona fans, and the people that don't
like Messi's because they're RA Madrid fans.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
So I never they indoctrinated me early. The only team
that I claim always is the Kaksa. I always claimed Nikaksa,
and I wear shirts like this, not only because it
is supposed to be a Ticulo jersey, but the name
probably pulled off already, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
So I never supported them.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
So I I think that helped me admire both Cristiano
and Messi.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I like both of them.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
I think they're both great players, and I mean I
think what they did was historic.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
They did.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
They came in at the right time when soccer was
getting global. They had the perfect story Barcelona against Madrid,
Christiano against Messi against Mourinho. You know, it was like
everything came in. But I just think Messi is a
lot better than Christiano, Like he was just or better player.
I think Christiano he's so determined that being less skillful

(51:15):
than Messi, he was able to work hard enough to
keep up with Messi statistically and maybe even surpass him
a few years, you know, like maybe this year's scored
more goals with me, next year he got instead of Messi.
So I definitely give a lot of credit to Christian Ronaldo.
But I just think Messi was a different player.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I mean, obviously, everybody to each their own.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
I mean he was just like I said, the saying says,
you know, Cristiano is the best human soccer player, but
message just an alien dude, Like yeah, like there's no
comparison with me.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Like, I'll be honest, I am my, that's what I'm
looking for. Do you have a bias? I wouldn't, like
I said to what he was saying, narger team player. Yeah,
I'm sorry, man, I just.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Blue.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Look, I'm saying, like Arctenians overall worst Latinos, right in
many ways because they don't like anybody else. They have
a superior complex.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Well that's that's that's one of the stereotypes. Yeah, yeah,
for stereotypes.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Most stereotypes are true. Right, So Argtian has always had
a hierarchy when it comes to Latinos. They think they're
the most European base, which is already an issue amongst
all Latinos. Right that the wider Latino, the better Latino. Right,
that's always been to do. Right the people people look

(52:45):
at you two guys and they hate you guys. Right,
Bason Brown, I know who's who's dark who's darker?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
But to be fair, I did play soccer on Sundays burned.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
See, there's already a little bit of but but he's
darker than I think you're normal.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
I think in my normal color, you're darker than me.
Right now, right now, I'm burned, Right now, I'm burned.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
But yeah, but that's the issue itself, right, because most
Mexicans we go into this fucking theory where it's like
the darker the Mexican, the worst Mexicans, which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
I don't mind.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Some people are some people like fall to like right,
everybody's likes blah blah blah. It's like, shut up, We're
not Mexican, not blue eyes whin dude, We're brown. We're brown,
and we look like that guy and that guy and
it looked like me to But it's but that's always

(53:43):
been the thing, right, dark teas. There the Italians of
Latino culture, right, and I like Italian.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
What you're saying, you don't like Italian. I like peace
of Man.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
But the whidows of Atlanta America, somebody is getting.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
The episode comes out.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
But no, like, don't get me wrong, I love Artistina
and women. You know what I'm saying, But I'm not
not like I said, I can't refer Ertina. They've done
Mexico wrong too many times. In the World Cup. They
talk the most ship out of all the Latino countries.
But the backing up, but the backing up. The problem
is that the promise that there are pretty good There
are pretty good sccophones, but stay, I lost the train

(54:30):
of that. I don't even know why I'm going down
this road. What we're talking about. We were saying, oh yeah,
I'm biased, but I can't. I mean, I like MESSI
I think message phenomenal player. I think he's one the
best of all time. And my bias one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
You know I'm a guy, right, you know? If you
ask me who, who do I want to be? I
want to be Ornaldo. I don't want to be Messy.
I already know what it feels to be five seven.
Let me let me get that six to let me
get six standard, right. I want to see that feels
like I want to see. I want to look down
at when I look up, I can't believe six, to

(55:05):
see how he jumps. No, no, no jump jump is
and no five six guys jumping high.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
I'm not saying he's five six, bro, No, it might
be yeah, jump is no phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
It's funny. It's funny. You give yourself an inch, but
you're taking an inch away from fucking.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
I'm just taking away.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
It's yeah, there the most five eleven and a half.
We've measured, we've measured, we've measured, we've measured, we've measured.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Goddamn right now, album right out, dude, six D.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
You want to get here, bring it out. I'm not
gonna cut, are gonna come out.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
That's why. That's why I bring it out, bringing up,
bringing out, because I'm out of here, dude, hell five eleven,
and that must be no, it must be out of
your fucking mind, dude five eleven.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Nah, you must be out of your He's.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Gonna have to change his Facebook dating provide. He's gonna
get like fifty percent less mad.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah no, no, I'm done. I'm done. Hold about all right?
You got doing it on the floor?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Yeah, here, it's already out right somewhere.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Give me.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
So this measurement is like, oh no, height, can you jump?
Can you jump?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Like? Give me.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
What I'm announced? Okay, I'm i raising his chest like
that's gonna help out.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Measure his titties too.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
I want, I want to say thirty four thirty four day.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Was he you stop? You stop? Sit down? Sown this
guy sky is. I'm afraid to say this five ten.
I'm kidding. I'm giddy at least from from this shit
he has city. They measure I got six three and

(57:13):
a half six three and a half.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
No, that's that's what I got. That's off the tabler.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
There's no way six three dude.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Maybe three and a half. Well maybe it's six three
and a half is six ft and a half six
ft and one and a half, six one and a half.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Sorry, okay, six one and a half.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yeah, let's let's sick away half six one.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
That's all I was kidding.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, six one six one ship pretty tall,
pretty tall, pretty tall?

Speaker 5 (57:44):
You know I have to break back six two, dude,
let's go, brother, got this guy grow so growing his
old age incredible mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Squashed Live of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Squashed Squash Spo. Now I'm playing six six one and
a half right.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Now, dude, because there's more gravity in Rockford.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Bro was that's what it was Chicago elevation elevations stronger
like the.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Moon and you bound field. You know what about you?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
No, I'm good. I already know my height the hell dude.
Yeah yeah, okay, bout height. That's what I'm saying. He's
probably the same height.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
But no, I think all right, Sorry, definitely, sorry, don't brother,
don't come back already.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
I I Ronaldo more than.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
MESSI yeah we did with three teams.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I'm saying the four teams.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Four teams, yeah, no, five teams because port right, it's.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
This sporty sort.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
He but what are you talking about? He did with
four teams?

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Well he did it. He did it with United.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Well he won the league, is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
No, no, I'm saying he he he killed in the English
Premier League. Yeah, he killed in the Spanish League. He
killed in Juventus.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
I don't know if he killed in Juventus killed.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
I don't know if he killed it because they have
won like seven championships before him, and then they won't
win and then then then they started losing.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
He came, he came, he was still at the score,
I mean, end of the day. We're talking about just
off his performance criticized for what he is a striker.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
He did well in Jumentos. I don't think he killed
it Inventus.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
He definitely did his prime when he goes killing dude,
and he his prime.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Wasn't real Madrid for sure, for sure. But his years
in Manchester United was still top level.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Because then he started off as a midfielder right at Manchester,
left winger always like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Right, he was levinger right now.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Yeah, I mean, but Massy never left because that was
his home. Yeah, he left till the end to hit
disagreements with the owner. But but in France he won
the French League.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I mean that's the weakest league. That's the weakest league.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
It's not not the weakest league.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I mean compared to what it's not. It goes English, Spanish,
I would go German, Italian, French.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Yeah, French the fifth league, yeah league.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Yeah don't. Yeah, I mean otherwise it's it's it's it's
what Hawx is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
That league? Yeah? No, No, the French league is the
fifth best league. Yeah, I agree to that. But the
more physical he said England.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I think, I think if you kill in England, you
can kill.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
But see I would disagree with that, just because England
is definitely way more physical. Yeah no, But talent wise,
there's been a lot a bunch of talented players that
were better everywhere else, but in England they didn't make it,
but they were still players. Like for example, they go
for Land, they didn't make it in England and more

(01:01:03):
of a and one either, Like those are players that
are just talented, but they didn't they don't they didn't
have the their game didn't involve running as much, so
they couldn't make it in England.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
But when they go Forlan went to the World Cup.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
You know, he eliminated team after the team and he
was the best player in the World Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
You know what I'm saying, like goals, uh, free kicks,
free kicks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Yeah, yeah, so it was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
I do think the English League is the best league,
and I do think it's the most physical league. But
just because you can't make it in England doesn't mean
you're not a No, you're not a great player.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
If you can make it there, you can make it
in all the other leagues, because I mean you look
at it like, for example, like Louis wattis Louis killing
in Liverpool. When Spain killed it, you got killed and
went to Spain killed it? Who else? Garff? I mean
Modrick Modrick again killed went over to RUMI killed it, Garreff.

(01:02:01):
Bell I think he was I think.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Gary Bello did good in real Madrid to the problem
is that people expected more of him but Madrid, yeah,
for what they played him, because they didn't want to
play him that much for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Beckham, Beckham, they won't I mean welcome, yeah, but again
maybe more higher expectations than what he could do. And
his did you see the documentary with his It was
good It's good because it kind of kind of blame
the wife, kind of blame the wife a little bit,
and I'm like, go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
That because back, tell a little bit about back the story.
Because he started with Manchester right and then went to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
He was he was part of the youngsters. He was
part of past goals Ryan Giggs gave Beckham, Gary Nevill,
Phil Nevill. They were the young kids that won the triple.
So they won the Premier League, f A League, sorry,
the f A Cup and Champions League under Yeah, there

(01:03:01):
was a bunch of kids that wanted It was in
nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Yeah, I'm mistaken nine. Yeah, no, David Beckham there. Beckham
was known for more.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Than I think.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
It was his like his precision and free kicks, but
not only just scoring but also like putting, putting the
ball right where he was very precise. Yeah, he had
a very strong kick. Outside of that, he was an
average player, but he was famous because he was good
looking and he was married to the spice girl. But
he was good like with the ball, like I said,

(01:03:30):
like if Beckham needed to put the ball thirty yards.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Exactly in someone's foot, he could do it. He was
just really good at that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Yeah, I think, but yeah, he mean, and that's what
he didn't un Madrid to when he went there. That's
what he continued doing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
He just if like people don't know what soccer and
they just hear the name Beckham.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Because he was famous and me he had that movie
Ben there like Beckham and stuff like that. People would
think like, oh, he was the best player of his time. No,
he was never the best player of his time. He
was just a really good player that happened to be famous.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
In his time. The media played a huge part.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Yeah, of course, yeah, I mean, and he was still
a great player. He was just there was better players
in his time. But yeah, that that side, that one
it was Yeah, it was like I said, it was
a Paul Goals, Gary Nell, Ran Giggs, Ran Giggs and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I forgot his name, yeah, I mean, and then I
think it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Was the black guys from one of the islands here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Right right right, Yeah, and then there was what's the
Irish guy the one that was really mean Keen Keen, Yeah, Keen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Right, Yeah, it was. It was definitely a Keen there.
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Overall great player. I mean, I think I could talk
soccer all day, man, I'm gonna lie, there's there's a
lot of it. I Mean, the number one thing I
want people to gather this podcast is that soccer sccerus.
Yeah what you I mean you could. Yeah, I'm trying.

(01:05:07):
I'm trying to get a I'm trying to get a
fifty minute spot my boys soccer teamore here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
What he saying? He said, he said, I'm one of
I'm probably one of the top three athletes on the team.
Can't get playing time, you know, I mean, I can't
get playing time, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
The soccer spot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
This is breaking breaking out to us.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
We honestly, we have a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Players as it is, so they don't show up on time.
But still we have like eighteen nineteen players bro for
a Sunday league.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Like It's like, look, we got something.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
We won the championship in the winter, and we want
to win the championship again.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Right now, Coach, I'm coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Coach what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
What do you think I'm talking about this? But right now,
the most important thing for me is like for everyone
to play in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, you know who the best eleven are going to.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Play and and and the other ones are just gonna
be there. In case someone gets tired right now. So
I just feel like we have too many players. If not,
I would have brought you in for sure. But we
have as many players as it is right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
You know, they put me on the bench. We haven't
many races as it is. And yeah, that's the problem.
And the problem is it is not only that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
It's not like like the team is good, like I said,
we just wanted to the players are good, so I
can't bring like someone that's not that does himself. Yeah, exactly,
it's not good. And just like like what are bringing
these people? You know what I'm saying, Like, because because
there's this kid that played with us, not a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Obviously it's a team over thirty, right, so there's not
kids anymore. But there's this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Who played with us the last two years who is
super quick, jumps, super high, really ener jetted like that,
but his soccer is bad.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
And like I feel bad.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
For him because he's really the most athletic player in
the team, but he has to be bench because he's not.
He's just not as good, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like he doesn't know how to pass the ball, well,
he doesn't know how to I'm not thinking you well,
not as well as the others. You know, he doesn't
know how to he he doesn't have that control the
ball like the others.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
He unfortunately he didn't come back this season. He played
with us the last two summers and but he he
didn't ask to come back. But I think he didn't
ask to come back. Was it because he was riding
the bench the whole season last season? You know, so
he probably didn't like, why am I going to go
to play ten minutes fift.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Yeah, so yeah, so it's it's a competitive team in
that sense, like every like there's a lot of good players.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Yeah yeah, so you know, you know, you know what
I'm you know what I'm getting from this. Don't ask
I gotta I gotta join the opposite team. I gotta
do then opposite team and then play against them and
be like you guys could have had this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
No, when we have we have like in the like
like our main forward.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
I'm not gonna like lie, but he's like thirty two
thirty three right now, But when he was twenty four
to twenty five, he was making his living off soccer.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
You know, what I'm saying, like he.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Was literally they were paying all the leagues in Chicago,
they were they were literally paying him money to play soccer,
and he was paying his rent just playing soccer. And
there's in that league. There's some ex professionals. I'm not
gonna say they were great profession but there's some players
that like the team we beat last like two weeks ago,
the defender he used to play for Montrey, he played

(01:08:32):
for You know what I'm saying, Like, there's players there
that are good, you know, and like that, like and
there's and the and the in the winter, there was
a couple of players in the team that lost at
the end, Like two of them played professional soccer in Mexico.
You know what I'm saying, Like like these are not
bums that you're gonna pay.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
But you know what, he's a good players.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
The athlete And me, dude, yeah, no, no, And I
want to and I want I want to. I just
like I look, look, I'm being honest, bro, fifteen minutes
and be honest, I be honest. Am I even consider
myself as good as they are? No? No, of course not,
of course not. Man, those are professionals, people who played
in the in the highest levels of soccer, right I'm

(01:09:13):
nowhere near around there. I just want to see what
it feels like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
No, no, no, dude, I mean, like I said, I'm
trying to say, not my team, Like no, no, it's
not that, not on my team. It's just that right now,
I feel like I can't bring another player because for
me right now, because there's too many players.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Now, let me ask you this. You say a lot
of people don't make it a time doesn't matter if
he plays fifteen minutes, if no one's there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:37):
Like, but then is he going to be Okay, we're
just playing the first ten fifteen minutes and then gatting
now and you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Saying, what if what if I'm killing it with fucking
ten fifty minutes or then we would have to see
that to see that, But like, yes, I had, we
have to see.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
That you're killing the first ten fifteen minutes and we
and plus we already have a base.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Of like who comes in later?

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
I know I want to say, so the team for
to begin with is a team these players like the
bass I would say that eight seven, eight players all
their parents like mine, are of from the same time
in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Yeah, so we've been knowing each other for thirty years,
literally playing Mexico my ca and that's what that's does.
The team is called, that's what is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
You guys have something a gto Mexicanos.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
So we have a lot of players that we've been
so so we already have like a base of six
seven eight players that so we already have a base
of players.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
So we're going to bring somebody in.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
It's like, you know, like this is the basis is
the players that are going to play this or the
you know what I'm saying. So it's I don't know,
it's just difficult for me to bring someone new.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Just like that, Like, hey, the coach can't vouch for
his friend.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
I never seen you play? How can I vouch for you?
I never think you play? Spirit is like I know
you as a person.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
I could vouch for you as a human being, but
I can't vouch for you as soccer play because I've
never seen you play. You know, Like, but is a
human millire, he's a good he's a good guy. What
can I say this? He's a good player. Like the
guy is fit? Can he play soccer? Can he actually
touch the ball. Can he actually move around to the
right spot.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
I don't know that about you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Well here to say this much?

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Can you?

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Can you go like you know what, let's let's bring um,
let's bring them. He's in a crack some jokes, it'll
be funny. He's a good guy to having a bed
high five all time best, you know, get him at
the ref.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Beat your rest.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
You got me all day, you got me all day?

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Can no?

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
And then we got a very good right defender right now,
So I don't that's why I don't think you will
fit in just because we got another like I said,
we like right now. The main issue, the main issue,
the main that's why the main main issues that we've got.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
A full team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
That's the metal.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
Like if we were missing players, like we were missing
like ship like we don't know but nah, like the
beginning of the season, maybe we'd have a lot of players.
But now we've got like eighteen nineteen players. It is
ridiculous because everyone wants to play, and you know, this
is not professional soccer where people are cool with being
the bench all game. You know, people take time from
their sundays, from their families to go play. So everyone

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has to pay so an extra player would be just
less time for everyone, so it would be a bigger hassle.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
And then like I don't even know if you're.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Actually good or you know what I'm saying, So I
don't like I can't take you to a team like that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
You know what is man? What are you playing in
the league right now?

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
League?

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
I think it's called Le Fantastic I don't know what
fantastic the fantastic world, Brole. I think that is the
name of the league. There's well, there's a bunch of
divisions and stuff like that, you know with the division
we play in is over thirty, but there's over forty.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
There's like two open.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Children join the league to find a team. I think
we want to take a shot at a a young
book like bro you could you go to the go
to the game, and then I did, I'm going to
show up. I want to show up to that game, Dudelay,
Wait a minute, don't I know that?

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Guy?

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Stop?

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
And I'm going to score. No.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Just the fact that you haven't played in so many years,
it is it lets me know that I don't you know,
like these players have been playing like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
You, like you were waking the past. Twenty years of the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Let's say this is much. This is much because you
you stated this before the podcast started. You think you're
better than me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Yes, I think I better than.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
That. Won't even like I think you think in the
game you are play me in the game type of game, bro, Yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
In the scrimmage, like like, yeah, you play the opposite
team against me. Yeah, I think I would be able
to you will not be able to drive me, and
I would be able to drive you a few times.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
It was crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
That is crazy, right, I mean I I've gotten to
play with some of the best Latino players in the
in the city, in the surrounding areas.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Yeah, I think, yeah, take on you. Yeah, this it
says very careful.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Yeah, careful kevil what you wish? Yeah, that's cool man.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
Obviously I'm not Obviously I'm not the player that I
was when I was nineteen twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Now, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
But yeah, no, yeah, of course, how are you mean
thirty six?

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
You're you're you got a couple years on me, right, yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
No, yeah, but yeah, no, I mean if it was
like a yeah, like I'm not saying if we play
for the same team. Maybe because of your physical endurance,
you could probably after I tired out fifteen twenty minutes
after you can probably have a better game than me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Yeah yeah, but is that what matters? But yeah, isn't
that what matters?

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
But but no, if the guy who pays good, if
we're playing like and I had to guard you and
you had to guard me, yeah, I would win most duels.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Yeah, you know, because I'm not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
I don't think you're bad.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
I don't think like I said, no, and I played
like its other comedians that like they like I said,
like they thought they played in college and they were like,
oh yeah and smoking yeah like they I mean, because
you got to understand that I came up in the
time where we literally were playing soccer Fridays a week.
You know what I'm saying with these same guys that

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I played with, a couple of them at least they
lived in right there, in the same neighborhood, the same house,
Like we were playing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Every day of the week.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Like and the kids like in the summers that played
college or whatever. They might be physically better than me,
but they never played for fun. They played their parents
took them to practice every Tuesday and Thursday, and they
had to play on the weekend and that's it. And
then for fun they played basketball, and for fun they
played baseball. We had to go to practice Tuesdays and Thursdays,
but you know what, Mondays, Wednesdays and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Fridays after school we were out there with the soccer
ball like you were just we did this for we
love the sport.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
So yeah, no, so yeah, there's a difference I think
in culture when it comes to I only play. The
fact that you haven't played in so many years tells
me that you're part of that culture.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Fifteen years. Yeah, yeah, no, only.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Years.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Hey, I had to grow up, man, this is the truth.
I had to give up the fantasy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
I always tell people that I quit playing soccer in
twenty eleven. Yeah, but since I quit playing soccer in
twenty eleven, that's when I consider that I quit playing soccer.
I played as He's say in twenty twelve. I played
as heasay. In twenty fourteen, I played as he'say in
twenty fifteen. I played us he's in twenty seventeen. I
played a season in twenty twenty one. Like you know what,
I'm saying, like even that, I feel like I quit
fourteen years ago. I still played like seventiess after that,

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you know what I'm saying. So it's like you actually
quit fifteen years without playing. I don't think i've met anybody.
I know that my friends quit more than a year.
You know what I'm saying, Like, it's look.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Look, I'm being honest, man, I'm being honest.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Like, no, everything you're saying is factual. Yeah, everything you're
saying is factory. I'm not denying that whatever. But I
have an ego. No, No, I mean, if you most
great athletes, most most like I.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Said, if you want once once when we played screws
because we in the in the winter, we used to
play scrimmage on Thursdays.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Once when we get something like that going.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
On, like like I'll buy you to that, se ask her.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
That's how I wanted to see what you can do?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
You want to play those?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
You can see what you can do to want to
play those scrimmage. One of my guys is.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
He was he was a marine dude and he used
to play soccer with us when when we were little.
But he was always bad. He was never he was never.
He was never a good soccer player. But then he
became a marine and he was like you he was like, man,
physically fail, Like to get in the Marines, you have
to run I don't know, seven minute mile at most
or something like that. And and then he was like

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I'm a He's like, I want to play soccer again,
you know. And at this point, this is maybe like
seven eight years ago. We were already like twenty nine
thirty whatever, and but.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
We all remember that he was bad when he was little.
How good could even got it? So we took him
to play once, like just to play, and oh, he
was still super bad.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
You built the story off product back now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
There like he was still super bad, and like we
never didn't want to tell him, like you can't go
to the team, but he himself realized that, like, nah,
I'm not good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Enough to play with these guys, and he just did.
Never showed up after that again.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
But but he thought in his mind, he was like,
you know what, I was bad when I was little,
but now I'm physically good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
But it's not only being physically good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
You have to ask you guys practice.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
We don't anymore, like I said, we we no, no,
it's just people don't practice no more.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
The little kids.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Practice, you know what I'm saying, the type of practice.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
So what we so our games were Sundays, but we
used to play Thursdays just for fun.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Yeah, rent the gym.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
It's like one hundred and ten dollars, like ten bucks
each and then just recreationally play this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
This is this is like a legate game, right, there's
not like there's not like indoor soccer, right you're talking
about well, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Winter is indoor?

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
But like right now now full field player, field referees.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Ok, yeah, yeah, league you pay for the you know
you pay for those Yeah, no, no, no, this is rings Yeah,
it's a league.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
It's a league games.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
But there's so many leagues going on right now in Chicago.
I'm sure you can find.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
A team that We're gonna find your guy down. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
What we used to do is we used to play
Sundays an indoor, but then Thursdays we were on the
gym mount and just play for fun. So like I like,
I will coach on Sundays, but on Thursdays, if I
didn't have a show, I would just go and play too.
But yeah, so like if we do something like that.
Could definitely by using those and yeah, you you could
touch yourself out baby steps, baby step, Yeah, and you

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you could see how good you do you are?

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Yeah, let me let me get let me play a
little bit of defense, right and now you know, a
couple of slight tackles, side tackles, a couple of fights.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
A couple of red cards right cars Now, when you
play scrimmage, you know there's no redcords. It's just because
you're not trying to hurt anybody your playing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
I'm trying Get'm trying to get them out the teams.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
I'm gonna have to jump in there. Five motherfuckers got
with six ft one and a half. I have to
jump in there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Man, if I said, hey, teach me how to coach,
you teach me how to coach? Is that more? Is
that more? Like doable? Is that more?

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
What? What's easy to do? Gig is an assistant coach?
Or gave me a right back?

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Well more easier to do probably my assistant coach. Okay,
because I'm still going to put the team together in
the strategy. I've just had as my like motivational speakers and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Boardboard.

Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
Get him excited, I'm get him excited, ultiplies oranges. What
is the exactly, I'm not get him excited. I I
put the I put the players in strategy. You like playing, dude, Well,
look it's not how I like playing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
The US is the So what we play is a
four four two because.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
I think that's the only that's a little kids ship, bro,
that's give me four through three.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
That's the only.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
Formation you can play without having to practice. Obviously, my
my favorite one will be like a five three two
five three two. Yeah, but I think you have to
practice that kind of stuff, and we don't practice, so
it's just like everyone knows what to do. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
The left five three two very defensive.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
No, it's it's actually I think it's more offensive. But
because there's usually two forwards, so when you do for
too too, you have to have the one that doesn't
guard anybody the last man. So what you do is
one of the forwards gets guarded by the center one
and the other one. You have to make one of
the guys from the side come back to the middle

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because they have to guard.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
The other one.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
So then you only have one player on the side.
If you play five three two, then you have two
in the middle that are going to guardles two and
your two sides are still open to go up and down.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
So that's why I think that one's better.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
But it's if you don't practice it, I don't think
you could carry it out. And yeah, the two forwards,
three and three midfielders, that that would be my perfect
one if I could actually train the team at least
twice a week with that one and then but no,
I think without training you can only do a four
forward two because those are the ones that are you know,

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two on the side, two in the middle in the field,
two in the middle too on the side, and two forwards.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
That's why I think at least I don't know. Okay,
I'm going off.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Of my FIFA I'd say I go four three three
all day the attack we're attacked, I mean for three.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Oh, I know all I know. Right now, I'm barely
trying to get into the scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
I'm already coaching here, dude, all right, and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
I'm already got assistant coach, bit motivated, motivating.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
I just need you to keep your head.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Well. I mean, hopefully, man, hopefully one day I can
scrimmage you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Yeah, you know that that Yeah, that that that for sure. Scrimmage.
Let me scrimmage the next time I have scrimmage, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
But and what and what if you you look back,
You're like I should have started. We could have gone
to the finals.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Damn. I mean, I mean, I'm a.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
Little certain round possibilities of that are very slim. If
it turns out that you're like somehow super really good player,
you will be playing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
About talking about I'm talking about bunch of thirty year
old dude. I'm not talking about super.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Good players take fifteen years off. They play all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Talented talent. Talent overcomes it. Look, I'll say this much,
I'll say as much, and I'll say this, and I
said this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
I die.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I die on this fucking sword right now, dude. Condition
wise better than everybody. All right, speed, I think I
have speed amongst at least ninety percent of your team
right now, dude, I'm telling him I was the fastest guy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
It was I don't know that was running up four
six dude.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Alright, for speed, I got all day jump. I'm a
fucking I'm a jumping bean. Dude. He's calling Tom being
in high school dude, A vertical. My vertical was outstanding, dude,
right dude. And heart look is one biggest one day,
the biggest heart. Do I love you right now? There?

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
That's how I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
That's how big my heart is, dude. Technique garbage.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Do I do?

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I kick with the friend tollsder dude. But this.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Now, yeah, like the league, this.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
Right now, and it's better than the winter because in
the winter there was a couple of week teams. Right now,
all the teams are strong. From what I from the
games we've played so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Far with the record right now, right now, we.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Were like.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
I think we're like three wins, one drawing, two losses.
I think that's where we are right now. We might
be four wins. I don't remember having the games we
played already. But in the winter we play like I
want to say, like seventeen eighteen games we only lost

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two and we tied like two and we won like
the other twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
We ended up in first place. Right now, I don't
think we're in first place.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
And every team we face has even though we've won
that they've been tough.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
All the teams have been tough. Yeah. And then the
winter there was a few games where we were.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
How did you see fights?

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Fights like real fight, fight like actual fight. Fight Rarely,
there's always scuffles, a little chovy, a little yellow. Yeah,
you gotta calm this guy down, bro, because he wants
to fight, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
But fights, fights like fight, like a real fight where
teams go at it. They're very rare. They're very rare.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
But there is, like I want to say, not every game,
but at least every other game, some type of little scuffle,
some type of little do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
You remind people that it's just fun, you know what?
Like it doesn't matter. I never understood, I never understood
trying to get a fight at a recreational sport.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
It's it doesn't matter, It does not matter. But then
none of none of this matters, right, I mean it matters.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
It matters professionally, professionally if you look at it, that's no.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
I mean, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
It doesn't matter if this Sunny League, I mean a.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Couple of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
This is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
This is what I always say. This is my philosophy
about soccer and amateur soccer is if you lose and
you're not mad, I don't want you on my team,
you know, so I get the passion that soccer brings.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Of course, I'm I'm with you in the sense that
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
Fights are stupid because it is just a recreational Sunday
league where we go to have actually way, we'll go
to extracise and have fun and show with your friends.
At the end of the day, we end up playing
for like an hour and a half and then we
end up chilling for like two hours, you know what
I'm saying. So, and not only that people bring their
families and stuff like that's what they should think of
things like that, But in the moment when the game

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is heated, I kind of get it. In the moment
like yeah, you're heating, this guy hits you, or you're
losing and this guy files you in a bad way.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
I kind of get that. I understand that the heat
of the moment thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
And if you're just if you're not taking it seriously,
then like I said, I don't want you my team,
Like like, obviously I don't want people to fight, but
I do want you to be like I do want
you to not want to lose, you know, I do
want you to be loose into one and be mad
and be trying to make that next go you know,
I do want that like that, and I'd just be like, well,
it's just a Sunday like now, like I want you
to care when you lose.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Because this winter was the first season.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
That I that I was a coach, but last summer
I was actually coached during the last like three four games, uh,
and we lost in the I think the quarterfinals, and
that should bothered me for like a week, like it
was like literally like it was like the number one
thing in my life, like a week, like it was
so pissed off because I felt like I could have

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done more as a coach.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Like yeah, what done?

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
There was this these couple.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Of players that that I put in because we were
winning that I should not put in. I should have
just been but they were better. Was the whole they
have been with us the whole season. They have played
okay during the season, and I was like, we're winning
to zero. We put them in. I should have just

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left him in the bench, just played with just the
starters the whole game. And then eventually they tied us
and they beat us three two, and it was like
a coach, you suck, So.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
It's not like I suck.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
So it was this this one player. I was like,
if I had not put him in and we would
have lost, they would have blamed me for not putting
him in. But since I put him in and we lost,
they blamed me for putting him in. But it would
have been a no it would have been a no
win situation if we had lost, you know, they would
have just been like, oh, it's your fault for putting him,

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your fault. And there's other player that I put in,
the same thing, because there was two of them, Like,
if I had not put him in and we would
have lost, they would have been like, said, you didn't
put this guy in, But after I put him in,
they would have been like, you should have put that
other guy in.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
And then there was this.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
One player where I literally just put him for like
two three minutes while some guy got some rest and
he got super mad. And then if we would have won,
they would have been like, you did the right thing,
you know, you just gave the other.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Guy some rest, but we lost. I did the wrong thing.
You should just left the man or whatever, you know.
So it's it's so yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
So that that bothered me for like five six days,
Like literally I was sad for like five six days,
like I fucked up, you know, But that's just the
way it goes, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Yeah, No, I see, man, I see.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
I mean, so when you guys win, it's the players.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
We guys lose as the coach.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Yeah, exactly. No, it's not only that, is that. Yeah,
when when we lose, the coach that everything wrong. And
it's it's not only with when we lose or we win.
When when you don't play, the coach is sucking up. Yeah,
when you're playing, coach is doing a good job, you know. Yeah,
And but yeah, at the end of the day, I think,
like I said, we don't we don't practice with the team.

(01:30:41):
So at the end of the day, is really the
players are the ones that win and lose the games.
We just try to put the players in the best
position that we think they could play in for sure
at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
No, I mean I think you know, anything else in
the world lackers hard, you know, I mean, coaching it,
playing it, you know, whatever it is, whatever the case is.
Ring is word changed like motherfuckers. I mean, even even
scouting great talent is hard, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
I've seen res get hit and stuff like that it happens.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
No, then you're coming back on the podcast, bro, I
mean it's been a long time coming. You know, Oscar
soccer podcast now it's soccer podcast, basically soccer. I think
we should do a podcast for the World Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
The World Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Maybe we're here, we're trying Are you trying to go
to a game? We d on this? Are you trying
to go to game?

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
I don't know if I if I'll go to a
game this camp out, but I definitely want to go
to like I think Cincinnati has like a game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
Yeah, I would definitely like to be around that because
you know they have.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
A like a like a FIFA zone and yeah, so definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
Like, I don't know if I could afford a game honestly,
hopefully an actual game.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
No, I don't think anyone. Yeah, I mean unless you're
saving money now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah, exactly. So I don't know if I could, but
I could, I would definitely like to go to like
outside the stadium and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
Go to Mexico one, hopefully, because it would be amazing.
It's a lot of money and not only a lot
of money is like in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Hopefully they don't do that for the world off. It
was more control of it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
But like, because I remember I was gonna be in
Mexico City, maybe I want to say I want to
say five years ago, six years ago, there was a
Final America Cross and it was like I literally logged
in the website like the minute that the tickets came out,
and they were sold out.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
With the bots, they were so now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
So it was difficult to get like and then I
had a cousin there who in his company they were
giving away they were giving away tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
He's like some.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
Type of engineer in Mexico. So he's like, yeah, they
gave us tickets. So I was like, sell them to me.
And then at the beginning, I guess he didn't know
what they were worth. So he's like, yeah, give me
like seventy dollars for because I wanted to. I wanted
to take a girl, I remember at that time, so
I wanted too. So he's like seventy dollars for each
one hundred forty dollars. I'm like that's a fucking steal, yeah,

(01:33:20):
for a fucking final Solo America, right, So I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, dude,
Like for sure, I'll send you the money right now,
and then like like an hour later, he backed off.
He's like, no, I found someone else to buy them
or something. I'm assuming somebody out for him. Somebody told them,
like this is worth more than seventy dollars. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, So I have no idea how

(01:33:42):
much at the end. And then at the end, like
the tickets that I was looking at were like over
a thousand dollars, Like I'm not gonna pay dollars much America,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
And then for the girl too, that's like two thousand
dollars for that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
And the only reason, the only reason I was going
to buy it was because I happened to just be
going to Mexico, like the day before or something like that.
So I'm like, I'm going to be in Mexico, might
as well watch the game, you know, because I'm not
a Cross America fan. Yeah, and it was like, yeah,
it was So I think it's gonna be something like
that in the world for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard you get
the ticket. It's gonna be hard.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
Because one of my buddies gone he's gone to He
went to Russia and Qatar, and he says that, like,
you got to apply to FIFA, but you gotta put it,
you gotta put in like a deposit, and then you
just randomly get selected.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Yeah. I don't like that because if I, if I
buy a ticket, I want to go see Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Yeah, so that's on the team. So the way it works,
he says, it's like you get randomly selected. So there's
a bunch of people that get selected for the Mexico
game that are not Mexicans. So what people do is
they start selling the tickets and then you sell the
ones that you already have, and that's kind of how
how it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
But it's dumb, right, Yeah, it's just be the way
they do it here in the States, where it's like
you buy take us to the game. Yeah, they're gonna
be stupid prices, right, but at least let me pay
what I want to go see. Yeah, I don't want
to go through different avenues to figure out how to
get to the right seating the boat. Now, let me
just it's five grand. It is five grand. It is
what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
So yeah, so I don't think I would have enough
to go to the real game. But yeah, like that's
definitely gonna do FIFA zones like they've been doing the
last World Cup for like, they get like a whole area.
It's just part of the FIFA. I would definitely like
to chill there.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
I think the closest place are gonna have games in Cincinnati. Yeah,
so yes, I probably go when there's a game out there.
Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, other than that, you'll probably
be here watching on TV, watching on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Definitely taking the home month.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Off, yeah yeah, yeah, for sure. That's a World Cup.
You take a couple of days off from work, at
least for the Mexican games.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Yeah, at least for that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
OSK, thank you for coming, man, Thank you for.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
Being I don't know, I don't know how interesting christ
to your audience. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
I don't know either, man, but I mean it's interesting
to us, right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
I enjoyed the conversation. Come on, come on, enjoyed it was.

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
Next time, I will give you guys all the dirt
on comedy, man, I'll tell you who's fucking who, Who.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Did who wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Maybe one day will be part of that story who
did who wrong? But tell the people where can find you, man, You're.

Speaker 4 (01:36:23):
Uh Instagram and TikTok ask got jokes to Oscar call
comedy in YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Yeah, and tell them what the last two specials you have?

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
I have especially that recorded last year called you Ain't
Kidding Me as on YouTube. And I have an album
that I recorded in twenty nineteen called Mexican Borns Chicago Raised.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
I got a bunch of shows in July. Check out
my Instagram. I was posted there my stories at least. Yeah,
I'm looking forward to you, li man. I like three
shows that I'm really excited about and then like two
other ones.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Yeah, and I'll say you once and I'll say twice.
Oscar one of the best, especially when it comes to
next I mean comic in general, great comic that we
have in city. So if you guys have an opportunity
to see him, make sure you guys go check him out.
He's been part of demon Our Comedy in the past.
He'll be part of the demon Our Comedy in the future.
Definitely check him out, follow him all the links and

(01:37:17):
who knows, man, maybe he has some new things coming
up soon, a little bit more social media heavy. You know,
you never know. You never know, this guy might be
the next Ralphs.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Pre man.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
You know that's pretty m right. Yeah, h related dudearlier. Yeah,
he took out the talent though. Yeah. But go on
to the people. They can find us.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
We're on YouTube, of course, Dealing our comedy is on.
There are old episodes of the podcast Makes Up a Drink.
Come watch the episodes with us in every podcustation possible,
our Heart Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Eyes more closed you right now? Look look at his eyes.
Look how closer now I have? God, damn you guys
don't know what you guys. Give up, you guys, give
up the mid podcast. Open your eyes due, there you go.
Open your eyes. Your bothering you? Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
There you go, all right where every podcustation close again,
Open your eyes, man, let me close up.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Damn let me do my part o your overy.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Our heart radio pod being Spotify.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Don't do anything. Open your eyes okay, Yeah, there goes
there goes.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
A heart radio again being Spotify. We're in every podcustation possible. Guys,
listen to us, follow us and of course guys can
follow me on TikTok Gomas better.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Why are your eyes are closed.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
Tired, dude, I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Wake up early, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
I woke up early, woke up at six in the morning.
Let me wake up over here. Probably works works twelve hours.
I mean the twelve hours works six hours, because who guys,
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