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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, everyone, this is Betsy Worzeal. You're a host of
Chatting with Betsy. I'm pasta Roll Talk Radio Network, a
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Folks. I'm always excited when I.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Do my show because I get to talk to so
many interesting people. And today I have another special guest,
and I have to share a funny story because I
never thought I would be interviewing doctors.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
When I worked as a.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Nurse, I used to see doctor down the hall and
I'd want to run in the opposite direction. So I
never thought I would be.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Interview with doctors.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But here I am, and today I have doctor Bruce Farmer,
who is an author and writer of the book day
a Blog, Sapphire's Revenge, debut novel by doctor Bruce Farmer.
Doctor Bruce Farmer was a emergency room doctor. He worked
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in academia and if.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's the outdoorsman.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
He's a dad, a three grandfather of five, and his book,
which I love to cover of is a Turkey Force,
a military thriller that rivals, the best of Jason Bourne
and Jack Riacher. The main character the Hannie Abrams. She's
a fearless warrior and New York City detective Wolf James
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and I want to welcome doctor Bruce Farmer to China.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Bessy, Well, my pleasure, in my honor.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, thank you. It's a pleasure to interview you.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, you had a fascinating career.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The emergency rooms, and we're in academia. And I've interviewed
other doctors and they, for the most part, I wrote
about their experiences. You went in a really different direction.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
About your book.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
How did you decide what you wanted to write and
how did you get into writing?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, I had a vision in the year two thousand,
twenty five years ago that for this book, and I
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had been reading the Book of Esther and the Old
Testament in the before the Common Era scriptures. And as
readers may or may not know, the Book of Esther
is the story of an orphan named Hadassa or Esther,
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who is taken care of by Mordecai, her uncle, and
it turns out that Esther or Hadassa is a very
beautiful woman and the king, the Persian king ends up
marrying for this woman, not knowing that she is Jewish,
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and as it turns out, an enemy arises who is
going to wipe out the Jewish people. And Mordecai gets
word to Esther in the palace and says, if you
don't do something, our people will perish. And she says, well,
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I haven't been summoned by the king in thirty days
and no one just walks in to the King of
Persia and says, oh, by the way, and Mordecai says,
perhaps you were born for this moment to risk your life.
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And I was reading that so gripped by this story,
and I had this vision, what would it be like
to take this Persian queen and transport her into our
century and make her to be a specop's elite sniper
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for the Israeli defense force from one who would be
put in a similar position, that is, at the end
of her rope after much stress and hardship, willing to
throw in the towel. He be contacted by the director
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of the massade, who would say, our nation is under
threat by basically a madman who is about ready to
unleash nuclear weapons on Jerusalem, and we don't know where
he is, we don't even know his name, but everywhere
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you go, he seems to know where you are. He's
after you to kill you, and we want you to
help us capture him. And hadassa staff Sergeant Hattie Abrams says,
you mean you want me to sacrifice myself like a goat,
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And he said, he says, perhaps you were born for
this moment. That's basically that the nexus of the story
and for me, the call to my heart and by
extension to people that read the book, is that I
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believe destiny puts into every person on this planet this
call that no matter what you're doing, where you are,
your time, wherever you are, you were born for such
a time as this. There's a call that goes out
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to all of us. I meant to be something special
and maybe I was born for this moment. And that's
that's kind of blots Outphire's revenge.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Wow, that just gave me goose bump touch to Bruce Well,
bring him back memories because I'm Jewish and I remember
celebrating purem and marching around the noisemakers and now you're
getting in the mood for Ahmatashin.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well what happened, Yeah, you know what
happened was I was I was practicing medicine and then
decided to pursue theology, which I did, and then one
thing led to another. I had a company. I injured
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my back, and out of that developed a method for
re having severely injured backs, and that ultimately, in twenty sixteen,
I was faced with the decision to either continue on
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or choose another path in my life. I had come
to kind of this, this another one of these points
where we were going what am I supposed to do?
And I went to a gall named Martha Blake, who
is a senior analyst under the Carl Jung Junion School
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of Analytic Psychotherapy, And of course Carl Jung was the
master dream dream interpreter and Jungion psychotherapy takes your dreams
and uh, the dream is a window into the into
the depths of your soul. So I went to her
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and I had had a strange dream.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I remember saying I have a dream, and of course,
being a good you in psychotherapist, she had her pencil
and I remember this yellow pad and a pensylon. She
says she got very studious and she said, tell me
your dream, like we've entered sacred territory, and I went, well,
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I was. I saw myself. I saw Robert Frost, the
poet with the beard and everything, and he was laying
on his back on the bottom of a clear mountain
stream of water, and the water was rushing over him,
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beautiful mountain water, but the water it was so cold
the water had frozen over, so there was this layer
of ice, and he was his hands were on the
underside of the ice, and he was trying to get out.
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And suddenly the moon had come up and moonlight was
washing over this scene, and the edges around the ice
were starting the fall. Well, Martha looked at me, says,
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were you ever a poet? Now? At the time, I
think I was fifty. I don't know how old I
was when I in twenty sixteen, well eight years ago,
so yeah, I was in my mid sixties or early sixties.
And I thought back, and I'd spent all my life
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doing medicine and stuff like that, and I went, have
I ever been a poet? I said, well, back in
high school, I suppose yeah. I really liked philosophy, and
yeah I was. And she said, well, maybe there's a
poet in you that's trying to get out.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And I and I then she said, are you doing
anything at the moment that is art, art, literature, anything
like that. Are you writing? Well, I had just started
picking up threads of this vision I started to write,
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and I looked at it and I said, yeah. He said, well,
maybe your soul in deep, deep down inside is saying
it's time for you to follow the moon, to move
away from the sunlight, to enter the world of the
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poet and write your book. And I just went, oh,
my goodness, gracious, Yeah, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, how many Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Bring out a good point, doctor Bruce, because how many
of us? And I've innterviewed a lot of people, and
I've talked to a lot of people who always want
to be a writer or maybe a different type of artist,
but they had to have their career or they were
told they couldn't do it, and then you know, midlife,
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later life, they retire and they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah. Yeah, said, you've lived under the sun for fifty years.
You've you've lived under the sun. You've been producing, you've
been working, you've done the work of your My dad
was a nuclear physicist to a Vet Canarian nuclear physicist
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researcher who worked in the area fifty one on the
atomic bomb. He said, you've been doing his work, You've
followed in his footsteps, but now your soul is saying
it's time to leave the sun behind and entered the moonlight.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And I went, okay, wow, so wow, that was Yeah,
that's affirming you know what you want to do.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I had interviewed start as a radiologist, and they always
wanted to get into art. But his parents were you know,
that's not going to make any money and you need
to be a doctor. And his parents were Holocaust survivors,
so you know, way back when, you know how no
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education was very important and the Jewish community and he
did become a doctor, and you know, in his uh
why the midlife he started dabbling in art and he
wrote a book. I think it's you know, fantastic because
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you know, sometimes, you know, doctor Bruce, people retired it's like,
well what do I do with myself?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Or their spouse size and it's like, well what do
I do?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And they think their life is over and it's not.
And in many ways it's just beginning. You can have
a whole new life. Yes, excuse me, can you talk
about the character in your book? Got New York City
Detective Wolf James. I don't like to get the whole
book away, but tease us.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, let me provide sure that target Hattie Ebrahms is.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
A is very.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
The book begins with her making where she is. She
shoots an Al Qaeda terrorist in Yemen, and it's a
record setting shots. It puts her in the record books.
It is one of the longest kill shots on the planet,
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so she's gifted. But in that chapter we discover that
this woman has a great deal of inner conflict over
the fact that her birthday is about to come. Twenty
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six days she'll have her twenty seventh birthday, and she
plans to kill herself before that day. And the read
than is she's not depressed. She honestly finds life to
have no meaning. And the fact is is on the
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day that she was born, her father was murdered, so
that every time she celebrates her birthday, she's reminded of
her father's murder. And finally she goes, I'm not doing
that anymore. And what the reader, what we don't know
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is that the Altaida terrorist is a close friend of
a very evil man who plans to destroy Jerusalem. And
it turns out that guy killed her father twenty seven
years earlier.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
When he discovers over is that this al Qaeda terrorist
has been murdered killed, he puts out a kill order
for this Israeli sniper. He says, whoever she is, I
want her dead, and he sets the enforcer upon her
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to go after and find her. Well, we don't know yet,
but she's been looking for this guy who's called X
all our life. So now he's under Now what happens
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is she's determined to kill herself. And what happens is
is is there's lots have happened, but anyway, she will
attempt to commit Harry Kary and will be prevented by
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all I will tell the listeners is that a divine
force will prevent her death. And in the process she's
going to kind of come to terms that there's that
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there's God is involved. And then she goes back to
her barracks, excited that something has changed her life, goes
out to a nightclub with this hunky guy and there
is a Jihati boy who who has been sent to
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kill her and blows up the establishment and Addie is
blown into a wall and loses consciousness. And that's kind
of the end of the first, very first part of
the book.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Like a great book.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I wish I had a copy. I wish I would
have sent the copy. I definitely would have read this book.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, So in the meantime, we're introduced to you know,
he's a master, he's a retired ranger of Master Sergeant
Wolf James, who, as we will find out, also has
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huge trauma in his life. And he retires and goes
to New York City to become a detective. And we
learn early on that Pattie Abrams that they met nine
years earlier while mountain climbing on Mountain Air and he
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was in one group going up the mountain, she was
in another group coming down the mountain, and as they
are hiking climbing past each other, their eyes connect and
in that moment they recognize their soulmates. They recognize a soulmate,
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and yet they have to keep hiking on and then
before she's ready, before she is going to kill herself,
she thinks back and goes, I wish I could have
met that guy. Life would have been different. Well, both
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James feel dreams of the time when he saw that
climber and says, I'm doing everything in my power to
find that girl, and now I'm giving up. After nine years,
I'm giving up. So that's kind of the the just
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the first part of the book. And we know now
that you've got this hunky retired master sergeant who's now
a detective who pines for this woman, but he's given up,
and she, on the other hand, pins for this guy.
And we see her kind of lose consciousness and that's
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that's the end of kind of the first part of
the book.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Wow, that sounds great. I love the cover of the book,
Doctor Bruce. I love the.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Who has the Hattie on the front cover. She reminds
me of the Uh in a way. Her arm is
a determinator movie. Yeah, you know, having a machine gune
And I said, Wow, what a cover. How did you
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come up with that image?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well, I I you know, Hattie is a fearless warrior.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And we my wife and I, through my book agent
at the time, found for us a photographer in Portland
who does work, who's kind of a kind of a
world class photographer. He does all the anything that you
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see that's super action oriented out of Nike or anything
like that. He's the guy. We got a hold of
him and we said, look, this is what we're trying
to do. And he took us to a studio and
he set us down with a with all of these
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books full of marbles, and he said, let's find the
woman that you that you think fitstaff Sergeant Haddie Abrams.
And so we spent hours and finally we said this
is the gal. Well, then when we finally got her,
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then my older son is a retired army officer who's
then three tours in the Middle East. We brought him
on board as the advisor and he got her dressed
up proper, and so then we spent the morning going
through taking her through. He spent hours taking big and uh,
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you know, but finally we got the shot that we
all liked. And so my oldest son John was the
one that got the weapon and got her all dressed
up and as the knife on the front, he says,
this is how you hold this is where the knife
has to be. I mean, everything about it was and
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we were so excited, really excited.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, it's a excuse me, it's a great cover. I
always ask people because I'm curious, what's your creative writing process,
like do you have the characters in your head with
the dialogue already or does that come along the dialogue
as you write.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I I kind of have a sense for a direction
I want to go. I've started the second book, for instance,
and so I my rule in writing is I need
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to give the read The reader has to have a
reason to term the page. They can't get to the
bottom of the page and have a reason to put
the book down. They have to find out what happens next.
And so I put in this case, the book opens
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with Pattie is going to make this incredible shot, and
so I have her, I have the helicopter, the stealth
helicopter coming in, and so I, in my own mind,
I create that scene of what is the helicopter? You know,
people have read the book realize just always say it's
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it's very detailed. All the details are accurate, the sound
of the helicopter, all of that stuff, and the weapon
that she carries. It's a McMillan, the Tack fifty, and
it was used by a Canadian sniper years earlier too.
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For the longest shot in I mean over, I mean
like massive distance, two miles shot. This weapon was used
as a McMillan tack fifty. But so I like to
put the reader right in the shoes of the action.
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So they're right there as Pattie and her spotter, Shirah
uh Shira are crunching over the gravel the landscape, you know,
in the moonlight, human mountains, and then they get to
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the spot and they're looking across at this village called Shid.
And because the shot is over a mile and a half,
I arrange it so there's so many factors going into
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making a shot at that distance. It really is like
taking a basketball and tossing it from one end of
the court to the other and getting getting it in
through the hoop, and it's it's these are miracle shots.
So all of that is scripted and researched in such
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a way so that you're right there when she's doing
all of that. And so that's kind of how it it.
The moment I started writing, people said it it read
like you were watching a movie. And in fact, what
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has happened since the book has been written. It's now
in the hands of a very kind of a big,
big name screenwriter and he's writing a screenplay. Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Is yeah wonderful.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I mean it sounds exciting and I wish I would
have gotten a copy because it really sounds.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I mean it does.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Sound like a thriller. Even just reading about this book,
I'm like, man, this will make a good movie.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And you know the research, So how did it take
you too, with the research and everything complete this book
from start to finish?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
About five years?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know I doctor bus I
said this before my show, and I'm going to say
it again. Since doing the show and talking to various writers,
I have such a new appreciation for you all the
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time that it takes to write a book folks, you
know five years or more with some people, their research,
the intense research that goes in to writing a book.
So when we pick up a book, you know, we
take it for granted, but a lot of work, blood, sweat,
and tears went into that book and writing a book.
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And I just have to say that, you know, it's
so important as a reader when you read a book,
go on.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Amazon, had a good Reads and give it a review.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And help out the author, and you know it really
helps and contact you know, a person say, hey, I
really liked your book. You know what it meant to you.
I think it means a lot to an author, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, it does it. I'm so honored. You know. I
couldn't put it down. And people say, I just I
want to read the next book, and I go, great.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would you know think you know
it would be I mean, if I wrote a book,
I would like people feedback, especially you know they enjoyed it,
and you know, it's just to me, it's fascinating because
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and I envy people who can, you know, or rite
because that's not one of my kids.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But I just think that it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I learned something from every author that I have interviewed,
and all had different creative processes, and I just find
it fascinating. I really do in writing a book, and
it really never thought about it ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And in the podcast I've done, I have found that
I have a short section of the book that most
of the podcasters, well they asked that I read that
portion because it gives the listener the oh they get it,
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they understand this. Would you mind if I read this
one section?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh please do?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, that it'd be great.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
This is uh yeah, this is uh. Chapter forty five.
This is Each chapter is headed by the day. It's
day twenty three, the place where in the granite, Greece.
The date is Tuesday, October the tenth, and the time
this is zero three hundred hours. Three in the morning.
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The astria floated quietly in the greina well. Hattie slept
with one eye open. At three am, the engines gurgled
and the lights of the port city faded from her window. Hungary,
she stole into the galley. The wheelhouse door lay ajar,
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and she overheard the captain say the syndicate won the bid.
The seamen replied in tandem, how much forty eight thousand dollars.
But when prro sees her, I think more, replied Captain
Diamus will take her tonight in Marsala, warned the zoo
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Nuthus no touching. A cold wave of fear spiraled down
Hattie's spine, and she crept back to the stateroom. She
practiced breathing and calmed down, but her stomach continued to
growl for food. An hour passed and Hattie opened the door.
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The engines roared and the waves splashed As the boat
sliced through the water, she steadied her movements against the
bouncing by keeping her hands on the wall. Cool air
met her face, the odors of food and carnuba wax
mixed together. Hattie touched her glock and the knife tucked
in her waistband. A single light casts a dim glow
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over the stove in the narrow, deserted galley. Balancing herself
had he planted her feet on the tiled floor as
a vessel bounced and swayed. She filled the bowl with
stew and tossed in a loaf of bread. He heard her
rustling behind her and whipped the round. Zuthus had the
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same idea of an early morning snack, and in the
soft light, Hattie's silhouette stood out. The big man downshifted
the first gear. His motion slowed as two small eyes
fixed themselves on the woman like lasers. He put down
his plate, the size of a tea saucer in his hand,
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and stepped towards her Mesburized by this shiny toy, Xuthus
reached out his fingers inches from Hattie's face, and, speaking
in a high pitched cat like meal, said, let me
pet your hair. Hattie instinctively stepped back and bumped against
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the stove. Her right hand went to the pistol while
the other pushed the lion's paw aside. Not today, big fella,
or ever, she said, and glanced left and right for
a way out. Xuthu's eyes hardened and voice darkened. I
want to pet it. With surprising quickness, the giants stretched
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out his arms like albatross wings and boxed her in.
He towered over her. The captain won't hear, don't scream
like the other's. Hattie's chest seized and panic. Her body
became mush as her worst fear materialized like a ghost
ship from the fog. The lock had no legs, the
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knife had no hands. Xuthus squealed in delight and put
his palm on her head. Then he grabbed one breast
like a magician's fire. Hattie's rape flashed up. She was
falling under blows from long ago, tied up and spread
open for this giant. The paustrophobia clamped down on her throat.
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Xuthus touched her pelvis suddenly in her chest had he
felt the fiery fiery lightsaber come alive and an inner
voice say when you hear the blast of war FM
on your rage and strike like a tiger, like an
explosion from a cannon. Hattie's hands shot out, aiming for
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the back of Zuzu's throat. Her fingers sliced through his
skin like the paper bag. They stopped at the spinal
cord on their way out. The fingers snapped shut like
a bear trap and ripped out the windpipe, arteries, veins,
and all. Blood sprayed like water from fire hydrants over
the ceiling and walls of the galley. Zusus turned pale,
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his eyes glazed over. The giant toppled like a redwood
and landed on the floor with a loud crash. A
pool of dark blood spread out beneath the leviathan as
the skipper rushed in and yelled for his mates. The
younger seaman ran in and saw his brother. He fell
on the mountain in a flesh and let out a
blood curdling screen. The skipper and the bernal chested semen
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stared open mouthed at the terrible blonde, who held an
enormous chicken neck in her hand. As her blood boiled.
Hattie snarled, fresh meat for your fucking fish stew.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Wow, that that sounds like quite a book that I
would definitely would want to pick up.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Doctor Bruce. That was.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's incredible. I'm sure that will make uh. I know,
it sounds like a great read. I know I'll make
a great major picture movie.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
We got the script. We got the book into the
hands of a major screenwriter who's worked on for Disney
and all the major major motion pictures. He read the
book and said, I love this book, and he said,
this is not going to be a movie. This is
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going to be a t series. We have five years
of material in this book.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh wow, that's good too. Wow.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
So's he's written, he's written the episodes, and so now
we're in the market for a producer.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Oh that is really cool.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, it's very exciting, very thankful.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
So you know, you're an example, doctor Bruce.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Is someone doing something, you know, second career later on
and look how.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Successful you are. And you know, people, I was just
in giview.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Someone on Monday, and you know, it's like if people
are afraid to try, sometimes they're afraid of failing.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
But really the failure is not trying. That's where to
me it is because you know, you learn from your mistakes, right.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well, one of the most motivational I can't quote it,
but it's when it's from Teddy Roosevelt, and it's where
he says that the credit does not go to the spectator,
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but to the person in the ring who's boxing, to
the person in the ring who's fighting. And there's the
blood and the sweat and the tears in this boxing match,
and he says it isn't to the victor, it's the
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person who got in the ring and gave it their best.
I'm butchering they quote, but it's, oh, yes, I've heard that. Yeah,
it's so good. And I've always felt like, you know,
I we can't we can't sit on the sidelines and
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spectate if you want, you know, we have if you
have this dream. This for me, it's Mordecai's statement to
Queen Esther, maybe you were born for such a time
as this. And you know, I just feel like Disney
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calls us and they have to get in the ring.
We have to get in the ring and give it
our b shot.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
And you know, absolutely, I mean that that's true. And
you know wife has twists and turns. I mean doctor
Bruce never did I think that I would be interviewing people,
that I would have a podcast show, and anyone would
have told me that ten years ago, I would have
said you're crazy, you know. But because of my husband,
(41:15):
Met who had early on satt Alzheimer's, and being a
caregiver and going out on social media and saying you
know how I felt, and just being out there.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Genie was just the station manager.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Of Patrick Wilds Walk Radio Network discovered me and I
never thought I would be speaking, you know, so I've
you know, really, I've wife has twists and turns and
we don't understand it, and maybe it's to bring us
to a different level of who we're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
The other thing that I'll say for the listeners is
that the overarching drama is that as a young woman,
Hattie Abrams is raised by a Jewish mother and from Ukraine.
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Hattie is a Ukrainian and in fact she has her
mother has brought her to Manhattan and she's raised as
an American. Hattie really doesn't understand her past, and but
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early on she has a very divine God experience as
her her you know her about Mitzvah. She she has
this God experience and yet what happens is she's a
beautiful girl and she finds herself in a bad spot
(43:06):
and is raped, and because of that, she returns home
and her she accuses God of this event, and she says,
you are the one who did this. Well, now we
fast forward to the book in her in this event,
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and she she basically tries to kill herself. And it's
I never use the word God. I mean the reader
is left to their you know. But we'll just say
a voice is what prevents her from killing herself. And
(43:55):
she kind of turns her life towards the voice. And
yet the next thing that happens that she's blown up
and she will awaken the intensive care unit after three
days in a coma. She'll be her face has been
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terribly injured, her body, and she will say to God.
She will become so angry at God. And basically we'll say,
I'm out of here with you and with I don't
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know what's happening to me. And as it turns out,
the more she runs from God, the closer she's pushed
to meet the man who kills her father. And I
will all I'll say is that in the end, she
comes face to face with the man that killed her
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father but also wants to annihilate Jerusalem. And at the
very end of the book, she has her moment when
it's all said and done, and she's going to say,
I ran from you and I hated you for so long,
but now when it's all said and done, I could
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have died a thousand times, but I can see, in
spite of everything, you were there. And that's how the
book ends.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, that's powerful.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, So anyway, that's that's kind of an yeah, and
it's working out my own inner pathos with God. Clearly,
I when I was eighteen years old, went through god
moment where I literally hated God, and I went through
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a phase where I just hated God. And all I
can say is that in all of my try to
escape God and run from him. And you know, it's
like in the New Testament that Paul is on the
road to Damascus and Jesus appears and says, you know,
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why are you kicking against the goads? You know, why
are you like like this, Oxen? Why are you trying
to kick against the sticks that are prodding you? Says
I'm Jesus, the one you're persecuting. Why are you doing
this to yourself? Why are you doing this? So the
story is kind of my way of saying, you know,
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many of us work through our our our God relationships
that in ways that we're furious, we're angry, whatever, But
God never tires. He's always with us in the trenches
and he always loves us.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah. Period, Amen, Yes, Amen to that.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
That's true of my my husband Matt, when he was
diagnosed like the Bruce, he said, I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I don't like what I have because of that's God's
plans for me. Then that's how it is. Yeah, and
you know, and.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
It's just such dignity and grace the way Matt handled
his diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
I know. I think we all have.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Our moments, maybe periods of time where we are angry
at God. I mean I was for a long time
because my son has a kind of disability, and I
was angry, How can you do this to me?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
In my dreams? Yes, you know, and then you find
out that we don't always see the bigger picture.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
That's the thing, you know, it's not about us that
there's a bigger picture ahead, but we can't see that.
We just have to trust and that's what faith is.
It's trusting that that's seeing. And wow, your book sounds awesome.
Where can people purchase your book, blood Sapphire's Revenge, debut
novel by doctor Bruce Farmer.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, it's on Amazon. The website is doctor Bruce Farmer
dot com just doctor Bruce farm. We have we have
graciously been We've won a lot of awards for the book,
and very excited about that. But really the website leads
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you to Amazon the blood Sapphire's Revenge. You know, I
did the audible. If you like audible, you'll hear me,
you know, read the book, and but we have it
in the kindle, in the the paper and the hardback
and yeah, it's nowadays with Amazon, you can order the
(49:27):
book and it's there at your doorstep and if you
know so fast. So yeah, we're pretty excited about that.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Well, I will definitely have to go in your website
and check check that out.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
I'm such a pleasure talking to you, doctor.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Bruce Farmer, and I wish you lots of luck, congratulations
and IM sure your second book will be fantastic also,
and all the information about doctor Bruce Farmer will be
in the blog that Genie White our station manager, writes
(50:09):
and produces the show. And I want to thank Liland Coldwell,
who's CEO of Patchworld Talk Radio Network, who makes this.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
All possible, and thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Subscribing. Please subscribe to Johny with Betsy if you don't
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you back in the future, doctor Bruce Farmer, readily to
talk about your experience as a doctor, your second book.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
You are welcome to come back.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Just enjoy talking to you today and thank you for
spending time with me today.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Well you're so welcome, just so honored.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Thank you, And as I always say, folks, the end
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Folks. I'm always excited when I.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Do my show because I get to talk to so
many interesting people. And today I have another special guest,
and I have to share a funny story because I
never thought I would be interviewing doctors.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
When I worked as a.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Nurse, I used to see doctor down the hall and
I'd want to run in the opposite direction. So I
never thought I would be.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Interview with doctors.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But here I am, and today I have doctor Bruce Farmer,
who is an author and writer of the book day
a Blog, Sapphire's Revenge, debut novel by doctor Bruce Farmer.
Doctor Bruce Farmer was a emergency room doctor. He worked
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in academia and if.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's the outdoorsman.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
He's a dad, a three grandfather of five, and his book,
which I love to cover of is a Turkey Force,
a military thriller that rivals, the best of Jason Bourne
and Jack Riacher. The main character the Hannie Abrams. She's
a fearless warrior and New York City detective Wolf James
(01:39):
and I want to welcome doctor Bruce Farmer to China.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Bessy, Well, my pleasure, in my honor.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, thank you. It's a pleasure to interview you.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, you had a fascinating career.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The emergency rooms, and we're in academia. And I've interviewed
other doctors and they, for the most part, I wrote
about their experiences. You went in a really different direction.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
About your book.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
How did you decide what you wanted to write and
how did you get into writing?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, I had a vision in the year two thousand,
twenty five years ago that for this book, and I
(02:52):
had been reading the Book of Esther and the Old
Testament in the before the Common Era scriptures. And as
readers may or may not know, the Book of Esther
is the story of an orphan named Hadassa or Esther,
(03:16):
who is taken care of by Mordecai, her uncle, and
it turns out that Esther or Hadassa is a very
beautiful woman and the king, the Persian king ends up
marrying for this woman, not knowing that she is Jewish,
(03:41):
and as it turns out, an enemy arises who is
going to wipe out the Jewish people. And Mordecai gets
word to Esther in the palace and says, if you
don't do something, our people will perish. And she says, well,
(04:04):
I haven't been summoned by the king in thirty days
and no one just walks in to the King of
Persia and says, oh, by the way, and Mordecai says,
perhaps you were born for this moment to risk your life.
(04:25):
And I was reading that so gripped by this story,
and I had this vision, what would it be like
to take this Persian queen and transport her into our
century and make her to be a specop's elite sniper
(04:48):
for the Israeli defense force from one who would be
put in a similar position, that is, at the end
of her rope after much stress and hardship, willing to
throw in the towel. He be contacted by the director
(05:11):
of the massade, who would say, our nation is under
threat by basically a madman who is about ready to
unleash nuclear weapons on Jerusalem, and we don't know where
he is, we don't even know his name, but everywhere
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you go, he seems to know where you are. He's
after you to kill you, and we want you to
help us capture him. And hadassa staff Sergeant Hattie Abrams says,
you mean you want me to sacrifice myself like a goat,
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And he said, he says, perhaps you were born for
this moment. That's basically that the nexus of the story
and for me, the call to my heart and by
extension to people that read the book, is that I
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believe destiny puts into every person on this planet this
call that no matter what you're doing, where you are,
your time, wherever you are, you were born for such
a time as this. There's a call that goes out
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to all of us. I meant to be something special
and maybe I was born for this moment. And that's
that's kind of blots Outphire's revenge.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Wow, that just gave me goose bump touch to Bruce Well,
bring him back memories because I'm Jewish and I remember
celebrating purem and marching around the noisemakers and now you're
getting in the mood for Ahmatashin.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well what happened, Yeah, you know what
happened was I was I was practicing medicine and then
decided to pursue theology, which I did, and then one
thing led to another. I had a company. I injured
(07:40):
my back, and out of that developed a method for
re having severely injured backs, and that ultimately, in twenty sixteen,
I was faced with the decision to either continue on
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or choose another path in my life. I had come
to kind of this, this another one of these points
where we were going what am I supposed to do?
And I went to a gall named Martha Blake, who
is a senior analyst under the Carl Jung Junion School
(08:25):
of Analytic Psychotherapy, And of course Carl Jung was the
master dream dream interpreter and Jungion psychotherapy takes your dreams
and uh, the dream is a window into the into
the depths of your soul. So I went to her
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and I had had a strange dream.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I remember saying I have a dream, and of course,
being a good you in psychotherapist, she had her pencil
and I remember this yellow pad and a pensylon. She
says she got very studious and she said, tell me
your dream, like we've entered sacred territory, and I went, well,
(09:17):
I was. I saw myself. I saw Robert Frost, the
poet with the beard and everything, and he was laying
on his back on the bottom of a clear mountain
stream of water, and the water was rushing over him,
(09:41):
beautiful mountain water, but the water it was so cold
the water had frozen over, so there was this layer
of ice, and he was his hands were on the
underside of the ice, and he was trying to get out.
(10:04):
And suddenly the moon had come up and moonlight was
washing over this scene, and the edges around the ice
were starting the fall. Well, Martha looked at me, says,
(10:25):
were you ever a poet? Now? At the time, I
think I was fifty. I don't know how old I
was when I in twenty sixteen, well eight years ago,
so yeah, I was in my mid sixties or early sixties.
And I thought back, and I'd spent all my life
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doing medicine and stuff like that, and I went, have
I ever been a poet? I said, well, back in
high school, I suppose yeah. I really liked philosophy, and
yeah I was. And she said, well, maybe there's a
poet in you that's trying to get out.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And I and I then she said, are you doing
anything at the moment that is art, art, literature, anything
like that. Are you writing? Well, I had just started
picking up threads of this vision I started to write,
(11:39):
and I looked at it and I said, yeah. He said, well,
maybe your soul in deep, deep down inside is saying
it's time for you to follow the moon, to move
away from the sunlight, to enter the world of the
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poet and write your book. And I just went, oh,
my goodness, gracious, Yeah, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, how many Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Bring out a good point, doctor Bruce, because how many
of us? And I've innterviewed a lot of people, and
I've talked to a lot of people who always want
to be a writer or maybe a different type of artist,
but they had to have their career or they were
told they couldn't do it, and then you know, midlife,
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later life, they retire and they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah. Yeah, said, you've lived under the sun for fifty years.
You've you've lived under the sun. You've been producing, you've
been working, you've done the work of your My dad
was a nuclear physicist to a Vet Canarian nuclear physicist
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researcher who worked in the area fifty one on the
atomic bomb. He said, you've been doing his work, You've
followed in his footsteps, but now your soul is saying
it's time to leave the sun behind and entered the moonlight.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And I went, okay, wow, so wow, that was Yeah,
that's affirming you know what you want to do.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I had interviewed start as a radiologist, and they always
wanted to get into art. But his parents were you know,
that's not going to make any money and you need
to be a doctor. And his parents were Holocaust survivors,
so you know, way back when, you know how no
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education was very important and the Jewish community and he
did become a doctor, and you know, in his uh
why the midlife he started dabbling in art and he
wrote a book. I think it's you know, fantastic because
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you know, sometimes, you know, doctor Bruce, people retired it's like,
well what do I do with myself?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Or their spouse size and it's like, well what do
I do?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And they think their life is over and it's not.
And in many ways it's just beginning. You can have
a whole new life. Yes, excuse me, can you talk
about the character in your book? Got New York City
Detective Wolf James. I don't like to get the whole
book away, but tease us.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, let me provide sure that target Hattie Ebrahms is.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
A is very.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
The book begins with her making where she is. She
shoots an Al Qaeda terrorist in Yemen, and it's a
record setting shots. It puts her in the record books.
It is one of the longest kill shots on the planet,
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so she's gifted. But in that chapter we discover that
this woman has a great deal of inner conflict over
the fact that her birthday is about to come. Twenty
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six days she'll have her twenty seventh birthday, and she
plans to kill herself before that day. And the read
than is she's not depressed. She honestly finds life to
have no meaning. And the fact is is on the
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day that she was born, her father was murdered, so
that every time she celebrates her birthday, she's reminded of
her father's murder. And finally she goes, I'm not doing
that anymore. And what the reader, what we don't know
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is that the Altaida terrorist is a close friend of
a very evil man who plans to destroy Jerusalem. And
it turns out that guy killed her father twenty seven
years earlier.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
When he discovers over is that this al Qaeda terrorist
has been murdered killed, he puts out a kill order
for this Israeli sniper. He says, whoever she is, I
want her dead, and he sets the enforcer upon her
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to go after and find her. Well, we don't know yet,
but she's been looking for this guy who's called X
all our life. So now he's under Now what happens
(17:41):
is she's determined to kill herself. And what happens is
is is there's lots have happened, but anyway, she will
attempt to commit Harry Kary and will be prevented by
(18:04):
all I will tell the listeners is that a divine
force will prevent her death. And in the process she's
going to kind of come to terms that there's that
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there's God is involved. And then she goes back to
her barracks, excited that something has changed her life, goes
out to a nightclub with this hunky guy and there
is a Jihati boy who who has been sent to
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kill her and blows up the establishment and Addie is
blown into a wall and loses consciousness. And that's kind
of the end of the first, very first part of
the book.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Like a great book.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I wish I had a copy. I wish I would
have sent the copy. I definitely would have read this book.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, So in the meantime, we're introduced to you know,
he's a master, he's a retired ranger of Master Sergeant
Wolf James, who, as we will find out, also has
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huge trauma in his life. And he retires and goes
to New York City to become a detective. And we
learn early on that Pattie Abrams that they met nine
years earlier while mountain climbing on Mountain Air and he
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was in one group going up the mountain, she was
in another group coming down the mountain, and as they
are hiking climbing past each other, their eyes connect and
in that moment they recognize their soulmates. They recognize a soulmate,
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and yet they have to keep hiking on and then
before she's ready, before she is going to kill herself,
she thinks back and goes, I wish I could have
met that guy. Life would have been different. Well, both
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James feel dreams of the time when he saw that
climber and says, I'm doing everything in my power to
find that girl, and now I'm giving up. After nine years,
I'm giving up. So that's kind of the the just
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the first part of the book. And we know now
that you've got this hunky retired master sergeant who's now
a detective who pines for this woman, but he's given up,
and she, on the other hand, pins for this guy.
And we see her kind of lose consciousness and that's
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that's the end of kind of the first part of
the book.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Wow, that sounds great. I love the cover of the book,
Doctor Bruce. I love the.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Who has the Hattie on the front cover. She reminds
me of the Uh in a way. Her arm is
a determinator movie. Yeah, you know, having a machine gune
And I said, Wow, what a cover. How did you
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come up with that image?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well, I I you know, Hattie is a fearless warrior.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
And we my wife and I, through my book agent
at the time, found for us a photographer in Portland
who does work, who's kind of a kind of a
world class photographer. He does all the anything that you
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see that's super action oriented out of Nike or anything
like that. He's the guy. We got a hold of
him and we said, look, this is what we're trying
to do. And he took us to a studio and
he set us down with a with all of these
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books full of marbles, and he said, let's find the
woman that you that you think fitstaff Sergeant Haddie Abrams.
And so we spent hours and finally we said this
is the gal. Well, then when we finally got her,
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then my older son is a retired army officer who's
then three tours in the Middle East. We brought him
on board as the advisor and he got her dressed
up proper, and so then we spent the morning going
through taking her through. He spent hours taking big and uh,
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you know, but finally we got the shot that we
all liked. And so my oldest son John was the
one that got the weapon and got her all dressed
up and as the knife on the front, he says,
this is how you hold this is where the knife
has to be. I mean, everything about it was and
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we were so excited, really excited.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, it's a excuse me, it's a great cover. I
always ask people because I'm curious, what's your creative writing process,
like do you have the characters in your head with
the dialogue already or does that come along the dialogue
as you write.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I I kind of have a sense for a direction
I want to go. I've started the second book, for instance,
and so I my rule in writing is I need
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to give the read The reader has to have a
reason to term the page. They can't get to the
bottom of the page and have a reason to put
the book down. They have to find out what happens next.
And so I put in this case, the book opens
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with Pattie is going to make this incredible shot, and
so I have her, I have the helicopter, the stealth
helicopter coming in, and so I, in my own mind,
I create that scene of what is the helicopter? You know,
people have read the book realize just always say it's
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it's very detailed. All the details are accurate, the sound
of the helicopter, all of that stuff, and the weapon
that she carries. It's a McMillan, the Tack fifty, and
it was used by a Canadian sniper years earlier too.
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For the longest shot in I mean over, I mean
like massive distance, two miles shot. This weapon was used
as a McMillan tack fifty. But so I like to
put the reader right in the shoes of the action.
(26:54):
So they're right there as Pattie and her spotter, Shirah
uh Shira are crunching over the gravel the landscape, you know,
in the moonlight, human mountains, and then they get to
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the spot and they're looking across at this village called Shid.
And because the shot is over a mile and a half,
I arrange it so there's so many factors going into
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making a shot at that distance. It really is like
taking a basketball and tossing it from one end of
the court to the other and getting getting it in
through the hoop, and it's it's these are miracle shots.
So all of that is scripted and researched in such
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a way so that you're right there when she's doing
all of that. And so that's kind of how it it.
The moment I started writing, people said it it read
like you were watching a movie. And in fact, what
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has happened since the book has been written. It's now
in the hands of a very kind of a big,
big name screenwriter and he's writing a screenplay. Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Is yeah wonderful.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I mean it sounds exciting and I wish I would
have gotten a copy because it really sounds.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I mean it does.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Sound like a thriller. Even just reading about this book,
I'm like, man, this will make a good movie.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And you know the research, So how did it take
you too, with the research and everything complete this book
from start to finish?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
About five years?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know I doctor bus I
said this before my show, and I'm going to say
it again. Since doing the show and talking to various writers,
I have such a new appreciation for you all the
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time that it takes to write a book folks, you
know five years or more with some people, their research,
the intense research that goes in to writing a book.
So when we pick up a book, you know, we
take it for granted, but a lot of work, blood, sweat,
and tears went into that book and writing a book.
(29:50):
And I just have to say that, you know, it's
so important as a reader when you read a book,
go on.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Amazon, had a good Reads and give it a review.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And help out the author, and you know it really
helps and contact you know, a person say, hey, I
really liked your book. You know what it meant to you.
I think it means a lot to an author, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, it does it. I'm so honored. You know. I
couldn't put it down. And people say, I just I
want to read the next book, and I go, great.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would you know think you know
it would be I mean, if I wrote a book,
I would like people feedback, especially you know they enjoyed it,
and you know, it's just to me, it's fascinating because
(30:56):
and I envy people who can, you know, or rite
because that's not one of my kids.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
But I just think that it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I learned something from every author that I have interviewed,
and all had different creative processes, and I just find
it fascinating. I really do in writing a book, and
it really never thought about it ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And in the podcast I've done, I have found that
I have a short section of the book that most
of the podcasters, well they asked that I read that
portion because it gives the listener the oh they get it,
(31:46):
they understand this. Would you mind if I read this
one section?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh please do?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, that it'd be great.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
This is uh yeah, this is uh. Chapter forty five.
This is Each chapter is headed by the day. It's
day twenty three, the place where in the granite, Greece.
The date is Tuesday, October the tenth, and the time
this is zero three hundred hours. Three in the morning.
(32:18):
The astria floated quietly in the greina well. Hattie slept
with one eye open. At three am, the engines gurgled
and the lights of the port city faded from her window. Hungary,
she stole into the galley. The wheelhouse door lay ajar,
(32:39):
and she overheard the captain say the syndicate won the bid.
The seamen replied in tandem, how much forty eight thousand dollars.
But when prro sees her, I think more, replied Captain
Diamus will take her tonight in Marsala, warned the zoo
(33:00):
Nuthus no touching. A cold wave of fear spiraled down
Hattie's spine, and she crept back to the stateroom. She
practiced breathing and calmed down, but her stomach continued to
growl for food. An hour passed and Hattie opened the door.
(33:21):
The engines roared and the waves splashed As the boat
sliced through the water, she steadied her movements against the
bouncing by keeping her hands on the wall. Cool air
met her face, the odors of food and carnuba wax
mixed together. Hattie touched her glock and the knife tucked
in her waistband. A single light casts a dim glow
(33:44):
over the stove in the narrow, deserted galley. Balancing herself
had he planted her feet on the tiled floor as
a vessel bounced and swayed. She filled the bowl with
stew and tossed in a loaf of bread. He heard her
rustling behind her and whipped the round. Zuthus had the
(34:05):
same idea of an early morning snack, and in the
soft light, Hattie's silhouette stood out. The big man downshifted
the first gear. His motion slowed as two small eyes
fixed themselves on the woman like lasers. He put down
his plate, the size of a tea saucer in his hand,
(34:27):
and stepped towards her Mesburized by this shiny toy, Xuthus
reached out his fingers inches from Hattie's face, and, speaking
in a high pitched cat like meal, said, let me
pet your hair. Hattie instinctively stepped back and bumped against
(34:47):
the stove. Her right hand went to the pistol while
the other pushed the lion's paw aside. Not today, big fella,
or ever, she said, and glanced left and right for
a way out. Xuthu's eyes hardened and voice darkened. I
want to pet it. With surprising quickness, the giants stretched
(35:11):
out his arms like albatross wings and boxed her in.
He towered over her. The captain won't hear, don't scream
like the other's. Hattie's chest seized and panic. Her body
became mush as her worst fear materialized like a ghost
ship from the fog. The lock had no legs, the
(35:35):
knife had no hands. Xuthus squealed in delight and put
his palm on her head. Then he grabbed one breast
like a magician's fire. Hattie's rape flashed up. She was
falling under blows from long ago, tied up and spread
open for this giant. The paustrophobia clamped down on her throat.
(35:57):
Xuthus touched her pelvis suddenly in her chest had he
felt the fiery fiery lightsaber come alive and an inner
voice say when you hear the blast of war FM
on your rage and strike like a tiger, like an
explosion from a cannon. Hattie's hands shot out, aiming for
(36:20):
the back of Zuzu's throat. Her fingers sliced through his
skin like the paper bag. They stopped at the spinal
cord on their way out. The fingers snapped shut like
a bear trap and ripped out the windpipe, arteries, veins,
and all. Blood sprayed like water from fire hydrants over
the ceiling and walls of the galley. Zusus turned pale,
(36:42):
his eyes glazed over. The giant toppled like a redwood
and landed on the floor with a loud crash. A
pool of dark blood spread out beneath the leviathan as
the skipper rushed in and yelled for his mates. The
younger seaman ran in and saw his brother. He fell
on the mountain in a flesh and let out a
blood curdling screen. The skipper and the bernal chested semen
(37:05):
stared open mouthed at the terrible blonde, who held an
enormous chicken neck in her hand. As her blood boiled.
Hattie snarled, fresh meat for your fucking fish stew.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Wow, that that sounds like quite a book that I
would definitely would want to pick up.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Doctor Bruce. That was.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's incredible. I'm sure that will make uh. I know,
it sounds like a great read. I know I'll make
a great major picture movie.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
We got the script. We got the book into the
hands of a major screenwriter who's worked on for Disney
and all the major major motion pictures. He read the
book and said, I love this book, and he said,
this is not going to be a movie. This is
(38:04):
going to be a t series. We have five years
of material in this book.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh wow, that's good too. Wow.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
So's he's written, he's written the episodes, and so now
we're in the market for a producer.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Oh that is really cool.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, it's very exciting, very thankful.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
So you know, you're an example, doctor Bruce.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Is someone doing something, you know, second career later on
and look how.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Successful you are. And you know, people, I was just
in giview.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Someone on Monday, and you know, it's like if people
are afraid to try, sometimes they're afraid of failing.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
But really the failure is not trying. That's where to
me it is because you know, you learn from your mistakes, right.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well, one of the most motivational I can't quote it,
but it's when it's from Teddy Roosevelt, and it's where
he says that the credit does not go to the spectator,
(39:34):
but to the person in the ring who's boxing, to
the person in the ring who's fighting. And there's the
blood and the sweat and the tears in this boxing match,
and he says it isn't to the victor, it's the
(39:58):
person who got in the ring and gave it their best.
I'm butchering they quote, but it's, oh, yes, I've heard that. Yeah,
it's so good. And I've always felt like, you know,
I we can't we can't sit on the sidelines and
(40:18):
spectate if you want, you know, we have if you
have this dream. This for me, it's Mordecai's statement to
Queen Esther, maybe you were born for such a time
as this. And you know, I just feel like Disney
(40:41):
calls us and they have to get in the ring.
We have to get in the ring and give it
our b shot.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
And you know, absolutely, I mean that that's true. And
you know wife has twists and turns. I mean doctor
Bruce never did I think that I would be interviewing people,
that I would have a podcast show, and anyone would
have told me that ten years ago, I would have
said you're crazy, you know. But because of my husband,
(41:15):
Met who had early on satt Alzheimer's, and being a
caregiver and going out on social media and saying you
know how I felt, and just being out there.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Genie was just the station manager.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Of Patrick Wilds Walk Radio Network discovered me and I
never thought I would be speaking, you know, so I've
you know, really, I've wife has twists and turns and
we don't understand it, and maybe it's to bring us
to a different level of who we're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
The other thing that I'll say for the listeners is
that the overarching drama is that as a young woman,
Hattie Abrams is raised by a Jewish mother and from Ukraine.
(42:22):
Hattie is a Ukrainian and in fact she has her
mother has brought her to Manhattan and she's raised as
an American. Hattie really doesn't understand her past, and but
(42:44):
early on she has a very divine God experience as
her her you know her about Mitzvah. She she has
this God experience and yet what happens is she's a
beautiful girl and she finds herself in a bad spot
(43:06):
and is raped, and because of that, she returns home
and her she accuses God of this event, and she says,
you are the one who did this. Well, now we
fast forward to the book in her in this event,
(43:31):
and she she basically tries to kill herself. And it's
I never use the word God. I mean the reader
is left to their you know. But we'll just say
a voice is what prevents her from killing herself. And
(43:55):
she kind of turns her life towards the voice. And
yet the next thing that happens that she's blown up
and she will awaken the intensive care unit after three
days in a coma. She'll be her face has been
(44:20):
terribly injured, her body, and she will say to God.
She will become so angry at God. And basically we'll say,
I'm out of here with you and with I don't
(44:41):
know what's happening to me. And as it turns out,
the more she runs from God, the closer she's pushed
to meet the man who kills her father. And I
will all I'll say is that in the end, she
comes face to face with the man that killed her
(45:03):
father but also wants to annihilate Jerusalem. And at the
very end of the book, she has her moment when
it's all said and done, and she's going to say,
I ran from you and I hated you for so long,
but now when it's all said and done, I could
(45:27):
have died a thousand times, but I can see, in
spite of everything, you were there. And that's how the
book ends.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, that's powerful.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, So anyway, that's that's kind of an yeah, and
it's working out my own inner pathos with God. Clearly,
I when I was eighteen years old, went through god
moment where I literally hated God, and I went through
(46:09):
a phase where I just hated God. And all I
can say is that in all of my try to
escape God and run from him. And you know, it's
like in the New Testament that Paul is on the
road to Damascus and Jesus appears and says, you know,
(46:31):
why are you kicking against the goads? You know, why
are you like like this, Oxen? Why are you trying
to kick against the sticks that are prodding you? Says
I'm Jesus, the one you're persecuting. Why are you doing
this to yourself? Why are you doing this? So the
story is kind of my way of saying, you know,
(47:00):
many of us work through our our our God relationships
that in ways that we're furious, we're angry, whatever, But
God never tires. He's always with us in the trenches
and he always loves us.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah. Period, Amen, Yes, Amen to that.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
That's true of my my husband Matt, when he was
diagnosed like the Bruce, he said, I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I don't like what I have because of that's God's
plans for me. Then that's how it is. Yeah, and
you know, and.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
It's just such dignity and grace the way Matt handled
his diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
I know. I think we all have.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Our moments, maybe periods of time where we are angry
at God. I mean I was for a long time
because my son has a kind of disability, and I
was angry, How can you do this to me?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
In my dreams? Yes, you know, and then you find
out that we don't always see the bigger picture.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
That's the thing, you know, it's not about us that
there's a bigger picture ahead, but we can't see that.
We just have to trust and that's what faith is.
It's trusting that that's seeing. And wow, your book sounds awesome.
Where can people purchase your book, blood Sapphire's Revenge, debut
novel by doctor Bruce Farmer.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, it's on Amazon. The website is doctor Bruce Farmer
dot com just doctor Bruce farm. We have we have
graciously been We've won a lot of awards for the book,
and very excited about that. But really the website leads
(49:03):
you to Amazon the blood Sapphire's Revenge. You know, I
did the audible. If you like audible, you'll hear me,
you know, read the book, and but we have it
in the kindle, in the the paper and the hardback
and yeah, it's nowadays with Amazon, you can order the
(49:27):
book and it's there at your doorstep and if you
know so fast. So yeah, we're pretty excited about that.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Well, I will definitely have to go in your website
and check check that out.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
I'm such a pleasure talking to you, doctor.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Bruce Farmer, and I wish you lots of luck, congratulations
and IM sure your second book will be fantastic also,
and all the information about doctor Bruce Farmer will be
in the blog that Genie White our station manager, writes
(50:09):
and produces the show. And I want to thank Liland Coldwell,
who's CEO of Patchworld Talk Radio Network, who makes this.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
All possible, and thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Subscribing. Please subscribe to Johny with Betsy if you don't
already do so much for free. I'm on Spotify, Sprinker,
Amazon Music, Apple, to name a few, and I have
a wonderful guest son and I would love to have
you back in the future, doctor Bruce Farmer, readily to
talk about your experience as a doctor, your second book.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
You are welcome to come back.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Just enjoy talking to you today and thank you for
spending time with me today.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Well you're so welcome, just so honored.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Thank you, And as I always say, folks, the end
of my show, Well you can follow me on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Betsy Worzel w or Z e l in the world.
It could be anything. Please be kind and shine.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
You're life bright because we need it now more than
ever before. And that's what I have to say say, folks.
Till we chat again. This is Betsy Worzel. You're a
host of Chatting with Betsy. I'm Patrick Roll Talk Radio Network,
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