September 3, 2025 • 37 mins
An upbeat and offbeat edition of the music banter session focusing on teen stardom, emerging concert acts, film anticipation, icons remembered and much more. Kelce and Swift, Laufey, The Police, Spinal Tap II, Lucinda Williams, Jimmy Buffet, Debbie Gibson, Nick Lowe, 10CC, and more in the electic mix. Enjoy!
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the course of the podcast. And it's another edition of
Danny and Tim's music scene and I have touted it
many times on this podcast, but an especially robust couple
of weeks on Sleeve Notes and The Guardian have many
topics for me to explore. Tim likes The New York
Times for his music. I subscribe to it. I don't
even know why I don't see it on Sunday, but anyway,
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I'll have to explore that in a different But so
we're going to talk a little bit about pop stars
from the past and maybe some inspirational stories about them.
Celebrate Jimmy Buffett because his passing was a couple of
years ago on Labor Day, basically September first, which isn't
always Labor Day, but was this time around. I saw
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that Tim I kind of tie this in with spinal
tap that somebody is playing in this area tomorrow at
maybe what you would consider a surprising venue. And there
are big international stars that you may or may not
know there are touring the country right now. Closest to
that one leave a pop jazz singer is getting to
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hear is Chicago, but big arenas all over the country,
and it's always interesting to see who sells out arenas
these days. Look back at a fantastic performance. I watched
recently from Austin Cinney City Limits from nineteen ninety eight
with Lucinda Williams and a little bit about her in
a new profile in The Guardian again and well, for
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we've got to get some music mayhem in here when
we do this. The other two members of the police
are suing Sting for one point five billion dollars or
million dollars. I'll check out which one it is. I
think it might be. No, it's got to be a
million for every breath you take. And of course they've
been contentious expandmates for a long time now. So all
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Welcome back and a week from Friday. I don't think
I'm going to be doing it because I'm going to
be on the road, But soon after that I'm sure
I will head to a theater to see Spinal Tap two.
Even the title makes you want to go. The end continues,
the title's even funny. I read an article in The
Guardian again a prospective review of the original, which is
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actually going to be put out at the same time
for people to see also in theaters, and it gave
it a five star review for the original, and I
think it's really I really think they might actually do
the a sequel.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Well.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
From the clips I've seen, it looks like it's going
to be good tim and may not stand up to
the first one. That would be hard, but it seems
like they get the right people in place to do
it right.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Well. I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be
optimistic about this because the original was like the mothership
of all of the other mockumentaries that followed, and the
same people most of the same people. All of them
are still hilarious. They stand up. They are among the
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movies if I'm just flipping around, no matter how tired
i am, if I see them somewhere, I'm like, I'm
watching this till it's over, like right, So yeah, I
just I think just because of who's involved, and I
think Rob Reiner is involved. Was he involved in any
of those other movies. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Oh, he directed the first one, so he is.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Ideo Okay, that makes sense. So just like they're not
going to put out something for the sake of putting
it out, and they're gonna want to make sure that
it's you know, it's not some weak water down you know,
follow up, it's it's all of those actors. I mean,
they're comedians and their comic actors, and I just think
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it's it's got to be good. And I don't know
that I need to watch the original because I've seen
it so many times, but maybe that would be a
good primer because, like I say, it's it's in that
you know, very large corral movies that I think I
can watch over and over and over because there's such
a slyness to them, and sometimes you pick up something
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you hadn't.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Seen it before, you know, or forgot whatever.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Or forgot yeah, exactly. It's so, you know, I'm not
a fan of like the do feel slapstick comedies, you know,
like a lot of people are. I suffered through some
dumb and dumber movies with my stepson because like, like,
but these are the these are some of the funniest
movies ever, And I'm I would expect this would probably
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fall in line with those.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
We can't hope certainly that that is the case, and
maybe sort of a spin off to that, Tim is
I saw on your Facebook feed that tomorrow night at
the Ranchmart North Mall, ten CC is playing a concert.
This almost sounds like a moment from Spinal Tap.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Yeah, it sounds like a moment from some farce of
a band trying to keep its keep its name and
its reputation in his career. Afloat. I don't so the
two main guys are not there. There's somebody affiliated with
the band who's the part of it. And someone told me, yeah,
I saw that that was pretty good. Well, they have
good songs, so they're basically somewhere between a cover band
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a tribute band and you know, just whatever the what's
left of the band, right, the husk of a band.
But there's such an outlier as a band because there
was such a part of my senior year in high school,
which is when I'm not in love and right, A
couple other songs came out and I bought their records
and just a really unique one of those like orchestral
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bedroom pop bands, and I love their sound and their music.
It's like a ten minute drive from my house. I
don't know if we're going to go, but it's tempting
just because where are they gonna play?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Like, I don't know, I'm maybe it's maybe it's kind
of be like they've done that concert series at Town Center,
which actually the logistics for that are pretty bad, or
when the the ones I went to, it's kind of
packed in there, but I don't know, kind of fit
into the theme, and so did an article you read
in The Times this past weekend about one Debbie Gibson,
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who was famous when she was sixteen years old. It's
not like she's hung on or parlayed fame, but she's
had a career and kept it going well enough to
and also adjusted well to life after teen stardom, which
is fairly rare.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Right, I mean, you know about how many you know,
young people go through TV sitcoms, TV stardom, film stardom, music,
and the rest of their life doesn't go well after
their fame. And it was such a refreshing interview with her.
It was in New York Times. She's fifty six now,
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seems to be living like the perfect life for someone
who said she's very thankful to her mother for having
like protected her from the predatory nature of the music
industry back in nineteen eighty six, which if you remember,
that was right about the time with Donna was starting
to take off, you know, eighty five eighty six was
when she skyrocketed. But there was Tiffany and there was
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Debbie Gibson, and they were doing mall tours. I was
working in Detroit at the time when they hit a
couple of malls and that was such a weird speaking
of weird venues and locales, but man, the teenagers would
just show up. And since then she's done some you know,
nostalgia tours with Tiffany and with New Kids on the
Block and those things, and it's you know, what she
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says is like the people who were there in the beginning,
they show up again because they want to remember their adolescens, right,
we all get that. So and she's just got She's
picked her spots. She has a life outside of all
of that. That life provides her money and income. And
it was just like I was impressed with how stable
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and sensible and smart she has been. The strangest thing
was when it brought up like she has taken boxing
lessons from some you know, welterweight or whatever champion who's
from Kazakhspan and then so like she's finding other outlets
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and she was on some reality show that I would
never know about for ice skating, and she took ice
skating lessons from an Olympic champion, And like, so she
is like living her life and who she was is
a part of that. She keeps it alive a little because,
you know, whatever, she loves it, she likes to remember that.
But I was just really impressed with her. She you know,
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we're probably going to talk about Taylor Swift, but she
gave me that kind of vibe, like her sensibility was
really impressive.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
That is really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And in that vein, of course, we talked about this
on my Wife and Ice podcast last week as we
attended the Happy Together tour, and since I mentioned it
and we talked about it on the last podcast, and
I said I would give an update. So there are
people who only listened to this podcast on my series
of podcast.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Tims, So there you go. They yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You can listen to them all, or you can listen
to just the sports one, or that's why I do
a bunch of different ones. But anyway, it was quite
a good show. The Kaufman Center was sold out to
the rafters. We had second row seats. I bought these
seats a long time ago, a long enough time ago
that my wife, I think, forgot that we had even
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gotten them in like two days before. She wasn't even
sure she was going to go. But we did and
it was fun and it was very well done. They
had Shadow Stevens was the introductory guy. He was on tape,
but he was good. And the cow Sils were first.
They were energetic, bubbly and they can still sing. They
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were teenagers when they were famous. We subsequently watched the
cow Sills documentary, which I think you've seen.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I think we've talked about.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
That, which is pretty dark.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, two of the members of the family died, but
these the three who survived, are quite good and they
did a really good job and got the crowd up
and going. And then the vogues came out, and there
are no original vogues, but they were professional and really good.
And the third Jay of Jay and the Americans was excellent.
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And then he would stop and talk and he had
a very strong Chicago accent, which didn't fit in very
well with the fact that Karama is one of their
big songs.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
That was funny.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And then eighty four year old Little Anthony of Little
Anthony in the Imperials just tore the place down. He
can still really sing. He is little, well, he's little
and wide now, but he was just amazing. The only
down part tim was Gary Puckett, whose songs about trying
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to take fifteen year old girls to bed were icky
to me, and I'm kind of surprised that actually he
still sings them to an audience that seems to like
the song.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
There are a couple that are.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Especially that he dropped, and I think because maybe they
seem especially creepy. He told a very creepy story about
how Elvis liked his songs a lot, and he met
Priscilla Presley backstage and she told him the story about
Elvis used to sing one of the songs to her
and I was like, oh, oh so, and he wasn't
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good either. And then the turtles came out and there
is one surviving turtle, but he's ill. So the lead
singer was Ron Dante, who sang who was the lead
singer for the Archies. And then they brought a guy
from the band down and they were good too, So
everybody was good.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Also, my wife and I were in the second row
and she said, I'm trying not to turn around because
I look like I'm in a senior citizens' home the
crowd there, But anyway, I was good and very professional.
The backup band, two of the members they introduced them
at point, they were they were excellent. There was a
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guitarist and a bass player and a drummer, two of
the three who had played in the Alan Parsons project.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
So they obviously.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
For some reason that makes sense, right, It's just like, yeah,
I mean, everyone needs a good.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right and so this and they seem to be having
a great time, and the crowd had a great time.
They were standing ovations all over the place and made me,
let's go back and listen to quite a bit of
Little Anthony.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
So it was fun.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't know if I'd do it again, but it
was fun. So there's your there's your update on that.
Not nearly as important for listeners of this podcast or
Kansas Citians in general that since our last podcast, Taylor
Swift and Travis Kelcey announced that they are going to
tie the Knot no surprise there, but it fits in
for the Taylor.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Just show of.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Fantastic accomplishments all over the place. You might be doing
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
She just broke the Spotify record for pre sales for
or pre downloads for Life of a Show Girl. What
was the other thing that she topped? A couple of billions.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
She has more albums that have had a billion streams
or more than anyone. Of course, she lives in the
billion stratispherics. She's not about the millions anymore. So. I
watched a bit of that her time on the Kelsey's podcast,
and I'm just so impressed with her. She's really funny,
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like she's got a really sharp, right sense of humor.
She's so comfortable in her own skin. She doesn't let
any of the noise affect her, and she just keeps too.
She just keeps impressing people, including like I told you,
my wife and I watched that Miss Americana documentary it
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was like last year, and she doesn't have any feelings
about table Ship. She just's I don't listen to her music,
and then we watch that she's like I really like her,
Like wow, I can see why your daughters like her,
because why women and young girls respect her and look
up to her, because she lives up to her reputation
because it's not fake. I just yes, I admire her
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as much as anybody. I've covered her music.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And you would admire her enough to make very funny
jokes like the one that said, well she's just marrying
him on Facebook. He said he's just marrying him so
she could divorce him and sing breakup songs about him.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Well that was the thing, like when they started dating. Oh,
well we see where this is going. She's going to
break up with them and write about it like yeah, no,
that's not it, Like if you have any sense of her,
like both of them come from really strong family backgrounds,
but the mothers and both families are really are really
influential to both Kelsey boys and to her. Like, there's
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a sense of decency about all of this, so I
thured it would you know, if it didn't end quickly,
it would probably go the way it's going. And yeah,
all those people are trying to, you know, pick up
the pieces and go well.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like, yeah, wellhy why would you root for that? Don't
root for that. Don't root for your own prediction. We
just hope that they live a happy and long existence,
and it seems like it's in that direction. It's not
like they got married real fast. I mean, what has
it been three years now? I think something like that.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
And at this point they're in their mid thirties and
they've been through a lot of relationships and I know, oh,
this one's extra special. I'm not going to find this again.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Yeah right, very cool.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Well, I don't know if there is much substance to
that for a segment, but there was a lot of
fun and smiles, and we'll be back with maybe some
more slightly substantive music discussions coming up next. It's Danny
and Tim's Music Scene, part of Arts and Lifestyle Wednesday,
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Welcome back, and it often happens that we celebrate passings
on this particular podcast because much of the music we
have fallen and we try to follow all music, including
the most current music, and we'll talk a little bit
about that in a minute. Is because of people of
that time, and a couple of years have passed now
since the passing of Jimmy Buffett, a person who was
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someone who looked like they might go the way of
a couple of the people we talked about already on
this particular podcast, somebody who might have one or two
songs that hit the charts and then maybe would just
be on reunion tours and the like, and instead Jimmy
Buffett turned out to be one of the biggest superstars
and entrepreneurs of the music business of all time. And
(22:38):
he seemed to be another person who was quite down
to earth despite his unbelievable success. I liked some of
his early music, his live music. I actually have his
channel on my presets because occasionally it's fun to kick
over there. I don't like those maringa bells or whatever
they are that he uses in a lot of his music.
(22:59):
But he he had made many many people's lives really
really better over and over again because people were loyal
to the brand, and he had a brand, and he
just did a fabulous job across the board.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
I read the New York Times obituary today. And he
was such a everything. He everything he pursued, he pursued
with his gusto, with this intelligence. Like he died, as
the New York Times said, like he was a millionaire
one hundred times over. That was because of his music.
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It was because of his books. Everything he did he
did sincerely. But it attracted people, It touched people. And
I've seen him. I saw him like probably three or
four times. It was it was a tough go because
I like a lot of his music. I wouldn't say
most of it, but a lot of it. A Pirate
(23:57):
looks at forty is one of my favorite songs ever,
one of the most songs. You know, Come Monday as
a great song. And then some of the stuff from
you know, the Margueritaville Changes in Latitudes is good. But
it was the shows that just got out of hand
and became like big fraternity sorority parties. So it was
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there's a lot to put up with that had nothing
to do with him at his live shows. But that's fine.
But he was just also just a really he was
talking about someone's character. He was a really good person
and he was generous and it was that, you know,
when he died, I didn't feel it like a lot
of his you know, most devout bands faulted. He wasn't
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my he wasn't Tom petty to me, but you know
I got it like he was just a really good person.
And you know, he's one of those guys you go,
we could we could really use him around right now
for various reasons. So I admire his pursuit of everything
he did and how it how accomplished you was, and
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also just his spirit, his decency.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And he seemed to have a fantastic attitude about a
variety of things and took his fame with a smile
and knew that he knew that he was very fortunate.
So yeah, I think he was a very admirable person
and worth remembering a couple of years down the line
as well. Let's talk about a young new artist, well
that we don't know if she'll have the kind of longevity,
but an artist my wife has shown me a few
(25:29):
videos of and songs, and I probably should be more
of aware of her because she's selling out arenas all
across the United States this summer. Is Layvey is the
way her name is pronounced, it's spelled like it would
be lofty l a u f e y. She is
from Iceland and she's a jazz pop vocalist who plays
(25:49):
the guitar on stale stage and has a lovely voice.
And her songs are catchy and they're sort of about young,
young love and things like that. So there are some
similarities to Olivia Rodriguez or Taylor Swift or in some
ways Billie Eilish, but more poppish, even though she sings
(26:11):
in a I think you may You said, is it
like Charde or something? Yeah, I would say that there's
some connection to her, but it's somebody to pay attention to,
some young artist who has a lot of fame now
and whether she and there's a lengthy profile of her
in The Guardian in last week's leave Notes. So I
think she's somebody that's very interesting to me. My wife
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likes her enough that maybe we'll go see her sometime,
although maybe not in times when an arena is full.
But I think I'm keeping my eye on her, like
a million millions of people are. She's twenty six years old.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Yeah, so I mean to go back to that. Debbie
Gibson interviews, she spoke about how how encouraged she is
about how many women female artists or whatever there are
now and how they're flourishing. They figured out the business,
you know, they have ways to pursue it in the
way they want to, and there's so many more now
(27:10):
than we're back then, and I lose tracked, like I
think I've heard about her. I think someone in my
feet has mentioned her, So I don't want to call
it an inundation, but like, thankfully, because you know, if
I were to make a list of my favorite you
know art is top top fifty hours, I bet half
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of them would be women, and I think we might
talk about one of them a little bit. But yes,
it's it's good. It's good that someone like her, and
you mentioned Billie Eilish and that they're they're they're flourishing
and and maybe maybe they're playing field is leveling.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And I think it's you know, there are a lot
of things that are going on now that I think
are inspiring to young girls that it's been long overdue,
whether it's women's sports or anything else. It's really flourishing
right now. And she's in the same vein that's spelled
lau f Ey check her out. I mean, it's lovely music,
so for no other reason than just musically, and hopefully
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she'll have the kind of staying power one Lucinda Williams does.
And I just bring this up because again there's a
lengthy not that lengthy. It's called ten critical questions or
something like that in the Guardian for Lucinda Williams, and
she had a stroke in twenty twenty. She says now
that she sings better than she has ever sung, but
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she can't really play the guitar very well anymore, but
she can strum and she has great guitarists behind her.
She's touring Australia right now. But I can highly highly
recommend that you seek out on YouTube. It's easy to
find the nineteen ninety eight Austin City Limits concert, which
just one great, heartbreaking sad song after another with fantastic
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musicians behind a guitarist named John Jack I never had
heard of. He's a Matt Nashville session legend, although he's
more under the radar because, for instance, he doesn't even
have his own Wikipedia page. So he's the lead guitarist
and the second guitarist is Kenny Vaughan, who was the
guitarist for Marty Stewart, who I'm going to see in
(29:18):
a couple of weeks. So you got just top notch
musicians on stage and her at Peak Form in nineteen
ninety eight. I mean it's an amazing show.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah, I've interviewed her twice. Nineteen ninety eight was when
I saw her at Sandstone Sheet. This was like one
of my favorite shows ever. She opened for Tom Petty,
which was and this was on the car wheels on
a gravel road tour, so like you couldn't that show
thinking about it still just me you know, spine tingles
(29:49):
and I interviewed her. She's really so honest and open,
like she forgets she's talking to the media. So you know,
she's a daughter of a poet, Miller Williams, who's you know,
helped her lyrically. Like we had a really great conversation
about some of her earliest songs, and she's just so
honest and sincere. I was able to get on the
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tour bus with her. It's a long story that maybe
I'll tell later, but I just love how how unaffected
she is by her stardom. And another person was so
much decency, and yes she had a it was scary
for a while for her. But if you want to
look up all her guitarists, like there's been a string
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of them, and I think part of it is like
she might be hard to work with. So but her
first was Gurf Morlix, who's a great guitarist who I
think he produced one of her first records or whatever. Anyway,
and they would just they would, they would come and go.
The car Wheels record was produced by like several producers
because she was so temperamental about it. Steve Burrow was
one of them. Anyway, I love her. She's one of
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my favorite and I will to this day say that
car Wheels is a perfect record. But Sweet Old World.
The preceding record was her Pinnacles. I love that record.
Start to finish. She ends up with a cover of
Nick Drake's which will that's stunning.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's a fantastic show and it finishes up with a
rousing rendition of a song that just escaped my brain.
So I'm not going to look at it, but it's
it's one of the Austin City Limits things that is
all one act, so it's all her. There's fourteen songs
on it. It's just absolutely tremendous. Well, let's talk about
somebody maybe is just as temperamental and difficult to work with,
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but maybe in a different way.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
In that Sting.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
The court case filed today or yesterday in London at
the High Court. The other two members of the police
is Stuart Copeland and Andy Summers are suing Sting for
one point five million pounds, which is about two million dollars,
because he said, they say he came to an agreement
which later was written down for them to split the
(32:03):
royalties for songs like Every Breath You Take, which he
apparently gets seven hundred thousand dollars a year from or
something like that. And there are quotes in there about
from twenty twenty two when he said, well, these guys
were holding me back by making me fill the albums
with crummy songs. So those three made great music together,
not for long. And you can see why.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I think the stems from the P Diddy sympol mostly
because I think P Diddy pays them that money. Right,
there was that I forget who what song that was
part of?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Right, Yeah, it's kind of olin president.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
You hear it everywhere.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Yeah, it's like the Bobby Benita contract. It just keeps giving.
But yeah, I've interviewed Stewart Copeland twice and I respect
him as much as anybody I've ever spoken to. So
I think thing is probably a little much to put
up with. And just for you know, Spike's sake, He's
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he probably has the money to give them, you know,
I think, so just be right and do what's right
instead of you know.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah they probably take us them scratching a check for less,
you know, or settle, just to show that there is
some good will there.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Yes, just to admit, don't be like that guy who
stole the kids out at the US Open like a
make you were wrong, and you know you'll get you'll,
you know, you'll shower yourself with some grace. People will say, well,
that was that was right of you to do that. Okay,
But yeah, it's the more I read about staying, you know,
the less I want to read about him. Right.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And let's conclude with another recommendation for me. I have
three lengthy Spotify playlists that I use when people come
over for grilling, and actually two of them and the
third one is for me, and so when I clean
up afterwards. I usually put that on and I don't
get to hear it that often, so sometimes I'm surprised
what's on there. And the other night I was scrubbing
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up the grill and this song came on that was
produced fairly recently over in the last ten years by
Nick Lowe called Blue on Blue, and the song just
blows me away. I love the song, and he performs
it now with this band called Low Straight Jackets often.
He's seventy four years old, he still plays and it's
a wonderful song. He actually closed out the Newport Jazz
(34:24):
Festival last year with Conan O'Brien. So he seems like
a cool guy who doesn't want to just sort of
repeat all the stuff that he does. Elvis Costello had
a birthday recently. He wrote Peace, Love and Understanding for him.
I like Nick low and I love that song. And
if you haven't heard it, because it really wasn't a hit,
it's Blue on Blue and it's become one of my
(34:47):
favorite songs.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
His career ship kind of parallels what Robert Planta has done,
you know, because Nick Lowe and Dave Edmund's were in
this you know, rock pile. They were doing great pop stuff,
a pop songs in the sort of with a slight
element of punk. Cruel to be kind, it's one of
my favorite songs ever. Like he's but yes, I've seen him.
(35:11):
He's been to Knuckleheads twice and lots straight Jackets by
the way, I have their own little thing going. Yes,
they're amazing. So yeah, I saw him at Knuckleheads and
he's just become this I don't want to say crooner
sounds like a pejorative that he's you know, he's he's
singing more. It's a it's a Mellower presentation. He did
(35:31):
some of his old stuff, you know, gratuitously, like I
know you're here to hear some of this. But yeah,
I'm just I'm so impressed by how he has evolved
and decided I'm not what used to be, which is
what Robert the one time I talked to Robert Plane,
He's like, I'm not that guy anymore. I can't do it.
I'm not going to embarrass myself trying to be so.
I think Nick nick Lowe is taking the same path
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and it's been really fortuitous.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It has check him out. He still performs quite a
bit as Tim would know, a nice shock of hair
is still good and he's got his it's all gray now,
anywhere's these cool glasses?
Speaker 7 (36:07):
He's silver, Danny, not great?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, okay silver, Yeah, Okay, he's cool. But anyway, the
song's blue on blue. May go down a rabbit hole
with that, as I do, and we like to do
on this particular podcast every couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
It's a joy for me.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Tim.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Thanks as always. We'll talk to you in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Yeah, that's sounds good, Thanks Danny.
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Celebrate Jimmy Buffett because his passing was a couple of
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tap that somebody is playing in this area tomorrow at
maybe what you would consider a surprising venue. And there
are big international stars that you may or may not
know there are touring the country right now. Closest to
that one leave a pop jazz singer is getting to
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and it's always interesting to see who sells out arenas
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Welcome back and a week from Friday. I don't think
I'm going to be doing it because I'm going to
be on the road, But soon after that I'm sure
I will head to a theater to see Spinal Tap two.
Even the title makes you want to go. The end continues,
the title's even funny. I read an article in The
Guardian again a prospective review of the original, which is
(06:03):
actually going to be put out at the same time
for people to see also in theaters, and it gave
it a five star review for the original, and I
think it's really I really think they might actually do
the a sequel.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Well.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
From the clips I've seen, it looks like it's going
to be good tim and may not stand up to
the first one. That would be hard, but it seems
like they get the right people in place to do
it right.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Well. I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be
optimistic about this because the original was like the mothership
of all of the other mockumentaries that followed, and the
same people most of the same people. All of them
are still hilarious. They stand up. They are among the
(06:52):
movies if I'm just flipping around, no matter how tired
i am, if I see them somewhere, I'm like, I'm
watching this till it's over, like right, So yeah, I
just I think just because of who's involved, and I
think Rob Reiner is involved. Was he involved in any
of those other movies. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Oh, he directed the first one, so he is.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Ideo Okay, that makes sense. So just like they're not
going to put out something for the sake of putting
it out, and they're gonna want to make sure that
it's you know, it's not some weak water down you know,
follow up, it's it's all of those actors. I mean,
they're comedians and their comic actors, and I just think
(07:29):
it's it's got to be good. And I don't know
that I need to watch the original because I've seen
it so many times, but maybe that would be a
good primer because, like I say, it's it's in that
you know, very large corral movies that I think I
can watch over and over and over because there's such
a slyness to them, and sometimes you pick up something
(07:51):
you hadn't.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Seen it before, you know, or forgot whatever.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Or forgot yeah, exactly. It's so, you know, I'm not
a fan of like the do feel slapstick comedies, you know,
like a lot of people are. I suffered through some
dumb and dumber movies with my stepson because like, like,
but these are the these are some of the funniest
movies ever, And I'm I would expect this would probably
(08:15):
fall in line with those.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
We can't hope certainly that that is the case, and
maybe sort of a spin off to that, Tim is
I saw on your Facebook feed that tomorrow night at
the Ranchmart North Mall, ten CC is playing a concert.
This almost sounds like a moment from Spinal Tap.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Yeah, it sounds like a moment from some farce of
a band trying to keep its keep its name and
its reputation in his career. Afloat. I don't so the
two main guys are not there. There's somebody affiliated with
the band who's the part of it. And someone told me, yeah,
I saw that that was pretty good. Well, they have
good songs, so they're basically somewhere between a cover band
(09:02):
a tribute band and you know, just whatever the what's
left of the band, right, the husk of a band.
But there's such an outlier as a band because there
was such a part of my senior year in high school,
which is when I'm not in love and right, A
couple other songs came out and I bought their records
and just a really unique one of those like orchestral
(09:27):
bedroom pop bands, and I love their sound and their music.
It's like a ten minute drive from my house. I
don't know if we're going to go, but it's tempting
just because where are they gonna play?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Like, I don't know, I'm maybe it's maybe it's kind
of be like they've done that concert series at Town Center,
which actually the logistics for that are pretty bad, or
when the the ones I went to, it's kind of
packed in there, but I don't know, kind of fit
into the theme, and so did an article you read
in The Times this past weekend about one Debbie Gibson,
(10:03):
who was famous when she was sixteen years old. It's
not like she's hung on or parlayed fame, but she's
had a career and kept it going well enough to
and also adjusted well to life after teen stardom, which
is fairly rare.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Right, I mean, you know about how many you know,
young people go through TV sitcoms, TV stardom, film stardom, music,
and the rest of their life doesn't go well after
their fame. And it was such a refreshing interview with her.
It was in New York Times. She's fifty six now,
(10:43):
seems to be living like the perfect life for someone
who said she's very thankful to her mother for having
like protected her from the predatory nature of the music
industry back in nineteen eighty six, which if you remember,
that was right about the time with Donna was starting
to take off, you know, eighty five eighty six was
when she skyrocketed. But there was Tiffany and there was
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Debbie Gibson, and they were doing mall tours. I was
working in Detroit at the time when they hit a
couple of malls and that was such a weird speaking
of weird venues and locales, but man, the teenagers would
just show up. And since then she's done some you know,
nostalgia tours with Tiffany and with New Kids on the
Block and those things, and it's you know, what she
(11:28):
says is like the people who were there in the beginning,
they show up again because they want to remember their adolescens, right,
we all get that. So and she's just got She's
picked her spots. She has a life outside of all
of that. That life provides her money and income. And
it was just like I was impressed with how stable
(11:52):
and sensible and smart she has been. The strangest thing
was when it brought up like she has taken boxing
lessons from some you know, welterweight or whatever champion who's
from Kazakhspan and then so like she's finding other outlets
(12:15):
and she was on some reality show that I would
never know about for ice skating, and she took ice
skating lessons from an Olympic champion, And like, so she
is like living her life and who she was is
a part of that. She keeps it alive a little because,
you know, whatever, she loves it, she likes to remember that.
But I was just really impressed with her. She you know,
(12:38):
we're probably going to talk about Taylor Swift, but she
gave me that kind of vibe, like her sensibility was
really impressive.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
That is really cool.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And in that vein, of course, we talked about this
on my Wife and Ice podcast last week as we
attended the Happy Together tour, and since I mentioned it
and we talked about it on the last podcast, and
I said I would give an update. So there are
people who only listened to this podcast on my series
of podcast.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Tims, So there you go. They yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
You can listen to them all, or you can listen
to just the sports one, or that's why I do
a bunch of different ones. But anyway, it was quite
a good show. The Kaufman Center was sold out to
the rafters. We had second row seats. I bought these
seats a long time ago, a long enough time ago
that my wife, I think, forgot that we had even
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gotten them in like two days before. She wasn't even
sure she was going to go. But we did and
it was fun and it was very well done. They
had Shadow Stevens was the introductory guy. He was on tape,
but he was good. And the cow Sils were first.
They were energetic, bubbly and they can still sing. They
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were teenagers when they were famous. We subsequently watched the
cow Sills documentary, which I think you've seen.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
I think we've talked about.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
That, which is pretty dark.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, two of the members of the family died, but
these the three who survived, are quite good and they
did a really good job and got the crowd up
and going. And then the vogues came out, and there
are no original vogues, but they were professional and really good.
And the third Jay of Jay and the Americans was excellent.
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And then he would stop and talk and he had
a very strong Chicago accent, which didn't fit in very
well with the fact that Karama is one of their
big songs.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
That was funny.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And then eighty four year old Little Anthony of Little
Anthony in the Imperials just tore the place down. He
can still really sing. He is little, well, he's little
and wide now, but he was just amazing. The only
down part tim was Gary Puckett, whose songs about trying
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to take fifteen year old girls to bed were icky
to me, and I'm kind of surprised that actually he
still sings them to an audience that seems to like
the song.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
There are a couple that are.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Especially that he dropped, and I think because maybe they
seem especially creepy. He told a very creepy story about
how Elvis liked his songs a lot, and he met
Priscilla Presley backstage and she told him the story about
Elvis used to sing one of the songs to her
and I was like, oh, oh so, and he wasn't
(15:23):
good either. And then the turtles came out and there
is one surviving turtle, but he's ill. So the lead
singer was Ron Dante, who sang who was the lead
singer for the Archies. And then they brought a guy
from the band down and they were good too, So
everybody was good.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Also, my wife and I were in the second row
and she said, I'm trying not to turn around because
I look like I'm in a senior citizens' home the
crowd there, But anyway, I was good and very professional.
The backup band, two of the members they introduced them
at point, they were they were excellent. There was a
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guitarist and a bass player and a drummer, two of
the three who had played in the Alan Parsons project.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
So they obviously.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
For some reason that makes sense, right, It's just like, yeah,
I mean, everyone needs a good.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right and so this and they seem to be having
a great time, and the crowd had a great time.
They were standing ovations all over the place and made me,
let's go back and listen to quite a bit of
Little Anthony.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
So it was fun.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't know if I'd do it again, but it
was fun. So there's your there's your update on that.
Not nearly as important for listeners of this podcast or
Kansas Citians in general that since our last podcast, Taylor
Swift and Travis Kelcey announced that they are going to
tie the Knot no surprise there, but it fits in
for the Taylor.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Just show of.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Fantastic accomplishments all over the place. You might be doing
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
She just broke the Spotify record for pre sales for
or pre downloads for Life of a Show Girl. What
was the other thing that she topped? A couple of billions.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
She has more albums that have had a billion streams
or more than anyone. Of course, she lives in the
billion stratispherics. She's not about the millions anymore. So. I
watched a bit of that her time on the Kelsey's podcast,
and I'm just so impressed with her. She's really funny,
(17:33):
like she's got a really sharp, right sense of humor.
She's so comfortable in her own skin. She doesn't let
any of the noise affect her, and she just keeps too.
She just keeps impressing people, including like I told you,
my wife and I watched that Miss Americana documentary it
(17:56):
was like last year, and she doesn't have any feelings
about table Ship. She just's I don't listen to her music,
and then we watch that she's like I really like her,
Like wow, I can see why your daughters like her,
because why women and young girls respect her and look
up to her, because she lives up to her reputation
because it's not fake. I just yes, I admire her
(18:18):
as much as anybody. I've covered her music.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
And you would admire her enough to make very funny
jokes like the one that said, well she's just marrying
him on Facebook. He said he's just marrying him so
she could divorce him and sing breakup songs about him.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
Well that was the thing, like when they started dating. Oh,
well we see where this is going. She's going to
break up with them and write about it like yeah, no,
that's not it, Like if you have any sense of her,
like both of them come from really strong family backgrounds,
but the mothers and both families are really are really
influential to both Kelsey boys and to her. Like, there's
(18:56):
a sense of decency about all of this, so I
thured it would you know, if it didn't end quickly,
it would probably go the way it's going. And yeah,
all those people are trying to, you know, pick up
the pieces and go well.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Like, yeah, wellhy why would you root for that? Don't
root for that. Don't root for your own prediction. We
just hope that they live a happy and long existence,
and it seems like it's in that direction. It's not
like they got married real fast. I mean, what has
it been three years now? I think something like that.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
And at this point they're in their mid thirties and
they've been through a lot of relationships and I know, oh,
this one's extra special. I'm not going to find this again.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Yeah right, very cool.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
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Welcome back, and it often happens that we celebrate passings
on this particular podcast because much of the music we
have fallen and we try to follow all music, including
the most current music, and we'll talk a little bit
about that in a minute. Is because of people of
that time, and a couple of years have passed now
since the passing of Jimmy Buffett, a person who was
(22:15):
someone who looked like they might go the way of
a couple of the people we talked about already on
this particular podcast, somebody who might have one or two
songs that hit the charts and then maybe would just
be on reunion tours and the like, and instead Jimmy
Buffett turned out to be one of the biggest superstars
and entrepreneurs of the music business of all time. And
(22:38):
he seemed to be another person who was quite down
to earth despite his unbelievable success. I liked some of
his early music, his live music. I actually have his
channel on my presets because occasionally it's fun to kick
over there. I don't like those maringa bells or whatever
they are that he uses in a lot of his music.
(22:59):
But he he had made many many people's lives really
really better over and over again because people were loyal
to the brand, and he had a brand, and he
just did a fabulous job across the board.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
I read the New York Times obituary today. And he
was such a everything. He everything he pursued, he pursued
with his gusto, with this intelligence. Like he died, as
the New York Times said, like he was a millionaire
one hundred times over. That was because of his music.
(23:35):
It was because of his books. Everything he did he
did sincerely. But it attracted people, It touched people. And
I've seen him. I saw him like probably three or
four times. It was it was a tough go because
I like a lot of his music. I wouldn't say
most of it, but a lot of it. A Pirate
(23:57):
looks at forty is one of my favorite songs ever,
one of the most songs. You know, Come Monday as
a great song. And then some of the stuff from
you know, the Margueritaville Changes in Latitudes is good. But
it was the shows that just got out of hand
and became like big fraternity sorority parties. So it was
(24:18):
there's a lot to put up with that had nothing
to do with him at his live shows. But that's fine.
But he was just also just a really he was
talking about someone's character. He was a really good person
and he was generous and it was that, you know,
when he died, I didn't feel it like a lot
of his you know, most devout bands faulted. He wasn't
(24:39):
my he wasn't Tom petty to me, but you know
I got it like he was just a really good person.
And you know, he's one of those guys you go,
we could we could really use him around right now
for various reasons. So I admire his pursuit of everything
he did and how it how accomplished you was, and
(25:01):
also just his spirit, his decency.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And he seemed to have a fantastic attitude about a
variety of things and took his fame with a smile
and knew that he knew that he was very fortunate.
So yeah, I think he was a very admirable person
and worth remembering a couple of years down the line
as well. Let's talk about a young new artist, well
that we don't know if she'll have the kind of longevity,
but an artist my wife has shown me a few
(25:29):
videos of and songs, and I probably should be more
of aware of her because she's selling out arenas all
across the United States this summer. Is Layvey is the
way her name is pronounced, it's spelled like it would
be lofty l a u f e y. She is
from Iceland and she's a jazz pop vocalist who plays
(25:49):
the guitar on stale stage and has a lovely voice.
And her songs are catchy and they're sort of about young,
young love and things like that. So there are some
similarities to Olivia Rodriguez or Taylor Swift or in some
ways Billie Eilish, but more poppish, even though she sings
(26:11):
in a I think you may You said, is it
like Charde or something? Yeah, I would say that there's
some connection to her, but it's somebody to pay attention to,
some young artist who has a lot of fame now
and whether she and there's a lengthy profile of her
in The Guardian in last week's leave Notes. So I
think she's somebody that's very interesting to me. My wife
(26:32):
likes her enough that maybe we'll go see her sometime,
although maybe not in times when an arena is full.
But I think I'm keeping my eye on her, like
a million millions of people are. She's twenty six years old.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Yeah, so I mean to go back to that. Debbie
Gibson interviews, she spoke about how how encouraged she is
about how many women female artists or whatever there are
now and how they're flourishing. They figured out the business,
you know, they have ways to pursue it in the
way they want to, and there's so many more now
(27:10):
than we're back then, and I lose tracked, like I
think I've heard about her. I think someone in my
feet has mentioned her, So I don't want to call
it an inundation, but like, thankfully, because you know, if
I were to make a list of my favorite you
know art is top top fifty hours, I bet half
(27:31):
of them would be women, and I think we might
talk about one of them a little bit. But yes,
it's it's good. It's good that someone like her, and
you mentioned Billie Eilish and that they're they're they're flourishing
and and maybe maybe they're playing field is leveling.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And I think it's you know, there are a lot
of things that are going on now that I think
are inspiring to young girls that it's been long overdue,
whether it's women's sports or anything else. It's really flourishing
right now. And she's in the same vein that's spelled
lau f Ey check her out. I mean, it's lovely music,
so for no other reason than just musically, and hopefully
(28:11):
she'll have the kind of staying power one Lucinda Williams does.
And I just bring this up because again there's a
lengthy not that lengthy. It's called ten critical questions or
something like that in the Guardian for Lucinda Williams, and
she had a stroke in twenty twenty. She says now
that she sings better than she has ever sung, but
(28:32):
she can't really play the guitar very well anymore, but
she can strum and she has great guitarists behind her.
She's touring Australia right now. But I can highly highly
recommend that you seek out on YouTube. It's easy to
find the nineteen ninety eight Austin City Limits concert, which
just one great, heartbreaking sad song after another with fantastic
(28:57):
musicians behind a guitarist named John Jack I never had
heard of. He's a Matt Nashville session legend, although he's
more under the radar because, for instance, he doesn't even
have his own Wikipedia page. So he's the lead guitarist
and the second guitarist is Kenny Vaughan, who was the
guitarist for Marty Stewart, who I'm going to see in
(29:18):
a couple of weeks. So you got just top notch
musicians on stage and her at Peak Form in nineteen
ninety eight. I mean it's an amazing show.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah, I've interviewed her twice. Nineteen ninety eight was when
I saw her at Sandstone Sheet. This was like one
of my favorite shows ever. She opened for Tom Petty,
which was and this was on the car wheels on
a gravel road tour, so like you couldn't that show
thinking about it still just me you know, spine tingles
(29:49):
and I interviewed her. She's really so honest and open,
like she forgets she's talking to the media. So you know,
she's a daughter of a poet, Miller Williams, who's you know,
helped her lyrically. Like we had a really great conversation
about some of her earliest songs, and she's just so
honest and sincere. I was able to get on the
(30:11):
tour bus with her. It's a long story that maybe
I'll tell later, but I just love how how unaffected
she is by her stardom. And another person was so
much decency, and yes she had a it was scary
for a while for her. But if you want to
look up all her guitarists, like there's been a string
(30:34):
of them, and I think part of it is like
she might be hard to work with. So but her
first was Gurf Morlix, who's a great guitarist who I
think he produced one of her first records or whatever. Anyway,
and they would just they would, they would come and go.
The car Wheels record was produced by like several producers
because she was so temperamental about it. Steve Burrow was
one of them. Anyway, I love her. She's one of
(30:57):
my favorite and I will to this day say that
car Wheels is a perfect record. But Sweet Old World.
The preceding record was her Pinnacles. I love that record.
Start to finish. She ends up with a cover of
Nick Drake's which will that's stunning.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's a fantastic show and it finishes up with a
rousing rendition of a song that just escaped my brain.
So I'm not going to look at it, but it's
it's one of the Austin City Limits things that is
all one act, so it's all her. There's fourteen songs
on it. It's just absolutely tremendous. Well, let's talk about
somebody maybe is just as temperamental and difficult to work with,
(31:37):
but maybe in a different way.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
In that Sting.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
The court case filed today or yesterday in London at
the High Court. The other two members of the police
is Stuart Copeland and Andy Summers are suing Sting for
one point five million pounds, which is about two million dollars,
because he said, they say he came to an agreement
which later was written down for them to split the
(32:03):
royalties for songs like Every Breath You Take, which he
apparently gets seven hundred thousand dollars a year from or
something like that. And there are quotes in there about
from twenty twenty two when he said, well, these guys
were holding me back by making me fill the albums
with crummy songs. So those three made great music together,
not for long. And you can see why.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I think the stems from the P Diddy sympol mostly
because I think P Diddy pays them that money. Right,
there was that I forget who what song that was
part of?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Right, Yeah, it's kind of olin president.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
You hear it everywhere.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Yeah, it's like the Bobby Benita contract. It just keeps giving.
But yeah, I've interviewed Stewart Copeland twice and I respect
him as much as anybody I've ever spoken to. So
I think thing is probably a little much to put
up with. And just for you know, Spike's sake, He's
(33:02):
he probably has the money to give them, you know,
I think, so just be right and do what's right
instead of you know.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah they probably take us them scratching a check for less,
you know, or settle, just to show that there is
some good will there.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Yes, just to admit, don't be like that guy who
stole the kids out at the US Open like a
make you were wrong, and you know you'll get you'll,
you know, you'll shower yourself with some grace. People will say, well,
that was that was right of you to do that. Okay,
But yeah, it's the more I read about staying, you know,
the less I want to read about him. Right.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And let's conclude with another recommendation for me. I have
three lengthy Spotify playlists that I use when people come
over for grilling, and actually two of them and the
third one is for me, and so when I clean
up afterwards. I usually put that on and I don't
get to hear it that often, so sometimes I'm surprised
what's on there. And the other night I was scrubbing
(34:02):
up the grill and this song came on that was
produced fairly recently over in the last ten years by
Nick Lowe called Blue on Blue, and the song just
blows me away. I love the song, and he performs
it now with this band called Low Straight Jackets often.
He's seventy four years old, he still plays and it's
a wonderful song. He actually closed out the Newport Jazz
(34:24):
Festival last year with Conan O'Brien. So he seems like
a cool guy who doesn't want to just sort of
repeat all the stuff that he does. Elvis Costello had
a birthday recently. He wrote Peace, Love and Understanding for him.
I like Nick low and I love that song. And
if you haven't heard it, because it really wasn't a hit,
it's Blue on Blue and it's become one of my
(34:47):
favorite songs.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
His career ship kind of parallels what Robert Planta has done,
you know, because Nick Lowe and Dave Edmund's were in
this you know, rock pile. They were doing great pop stuff,
a pop songs in the sort of with a slight
element of punk. Cruel to be kind, it's one of
my favorite songs ever. Like he's but yes, I've seen him.
(35:11):
He's been to Knuckleheads twice and lots straight Jackets by
the way, I have their own little thing going. Yes,
they're amazing. So yeah, I saw him at Knuckleheads and
he's just become this I don't want to say crooner
sounds like a pejorative that he's you know, he's he's
singing more. It's a it's a Mellower presentation. He did
(35:31):
some of his old stuff, you know, gratuitously, like I
know you're here to hear some of this. But yeah,
I'm just I'm so impressed by how he has evolved
and decided I'm not what used to be, which is
what Robert the one time I talked to Robert Plane,
He's like, I'm not that guy anymore. I can't do it.
I'm not going to embarrass myself trying to be so.
I think Nick nick Lowe is taking the same path
(35:53):
and it's been really fortuitous.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It has check him out. He still performs quite a
bit as Tim would know, a nice shock of hair
is still good and he's got his it's all gray now,
anywhere's these cool glasses?
Speaker 7 (36:07):
He's silver, Danny, not great?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, okay silver, Yeah, Okay, he's cool. But anyway, the
song's blue on blue. May go down a rabbit hole
with that, as I do, and we like to do
on this particular podcast every couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
It's a joy for me.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Tim.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Thanks as always. We'll talk to you in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Yeah, that's sounds good, Thanks Danny.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
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