September 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Reliably informative, opinionated, and enjoyable, we dive into KC music venues pro and con, movie soundtracks, Super Bowl halftime, tributes to those just passed, anniversaries, and more. Featuring Lady Gaga, Pink Floyd, Beyonce, Mark Knopfler, Taylor Swift, Starlight, Redford, Supertramp, and many more. Come on along!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Danny Clinkscale Reasonably irreverent podcast, insightful and
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And make your financial situation better. As usual, we have
a Hodgepodge Miss Mash. I can barely pronounce it, eclectic, blend,
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whatever you want to call it. If things today as usual,
Tim has some interesting New York Times contributions. We've got
music from motion picture stars who come through Kansas City
and I have successful runs and people generally think they're okay.
I've got a couple of concerts coming up that I've
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talked about before, and I think that would just blend
itself to talk about certain venues good and not so good.
Are there are, of the course, the usual combination and
blend of people who have passed who are major contributors
in the music scene. In this time around. They were
rather old, so it wasn't really tragic. It was just
(01:23):
maybe sort of allows you to pay tribute to these
people and remember them. Of course, one of those is
peripherally related to the music industry, and that's Robert Redford,
who died this week. And also Tim has been using
Mark Knopfler soundtracks as therapy, and I have a little
suggestion as far as those of you who might be
(01:45):
fans of some of his work. And there's other things
to talk about too. Pink Floyd fans and they say
spirit of fairness. I'll talk about Pink Floyd. Not my favorite,
certainly everybody knows that. But they've got a fiftieth anniversary,
big relief of things coming out, as do the Beatles.
It's not an anniversary, but they're always putting out new
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things and for many people they just can't get enough.
So oh, that's part of the mix. I'll throw a
little Taylor Swift news in there, why not, And at
least that's good news in the chiefs Arena as Taylor
Swift and the potential for her playing the Super Bowl,
all that more coming up. It's Danny and Tim's music scene.
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(02:27):
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forward to working with you. Welcome back. And I don't
know these are little easter eggs or whatever, but the
always uncharismatic Roger Goodell was on the Today Show this
week and he gave everybody a little tease about put
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the potential for Taylor Swift being at the super Bowl.
I would say, if you're just kind of teasing these things, Tim,
it's probably more, uh, there's more, probably more smoke than
not smoke in this regard. And you know, the Chiefs
don't look like they're super Bowl bound right now, so
why not think about Taylor playing the super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
There is a lot of fatigue in this world, and
there are levels of fatigue.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
And I just I.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Don't know what to think about that. Like, look, her
fans are gonna a're gonna love it no matter what.
She She has an army that's galvanized, and but yeah,
I think she's fans are like, you know what happens
when your team starts to.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Deteriorate slightly around the edges and.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Fans get things, get discouraged and disappointed, and there's even
grumblings like.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I don't know, blame blame Taylor Swift because because it
looks like because it looks like Travis Kelsey is all
upset and maybe maybe you know she's not treating him
right or something.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I guess it's not the offensive line is Taylor Swift.
Let's let's be clear. So anyway, Yeah, I mean she would,
I don't she would be as big as Beyonce. I'll
say there's no one bigger than her. There are some
stars as big as her, for sure. So I hope
she wasn't, like she didn't sign on the dead line,
figuring out her fiance would also be there. But you know,
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you never know in the locker room, but you never
know who knows. Yeah, shecles.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
You can't really measure how she was part of this,
of this run by this football team, and how much
juice she added to it.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Let's let's just enjoy it. I don't. I don't get
the resentment.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
And like I've made it clear since the first time
I saw her, I'm a fan of her.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Her music.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I embraced it because I've heard enough of it that
I like it. My daughters play it or have played it,
and but also just the person I've become that I've
learned to know like who she is. She's she's got resolved,
she's good. I yeah, So she's been good for this city.
And if you don't see that, I can't help you.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah. I think she absolutely has. And this city has
many good attributes to it, and one of those is
it's a very vibrant music city. I am seeing Marty
Stewart on Friday. I've mentioned that a couple of times
on this podcast, but this time around it's at Amerastar.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I've seen him at the Fowley Theater and I've seen
him at the Kaufman Center, and those are infinitely better
venues than the Amerastar. I have seen one AmeriStar show,
and that was Todd Rudgren. The venue is fine. I
don't have really strong memories of it. It was about ten
years ago, I think, and Todd Rudgren wasn't great. I
didn't think in that particular setting. So I'm kind of
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curious what it's going to be like for to have that.
And I thought that might be a good jumping off
point because also in the next couple of weeks, I'm
going back to the Kaufman Center to see Bella Fleck
and I'm also going to what has always been called Sandstone.
It's a z or amphitheater. It's really for me to
guilty pleasure my annual visit to see thirty eight special.
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But Kansas Is also playing, and hope they're first. It
says they're special guests. I hope Jefferson starship so I
can show up late and miss that. But that's aid
azure amphitheater. So e eke. Yeah. I remember when somebody
clued me in that this was the show. I said, well,
one out of three isn't bad. And I've since tarked
(08:20):
to people, and I guess Kansas Is still does a
professional job. There's a couple members of the band there.
But just well, first of all, just to say give us,
give me a flavor of what I'm going to find
at a Marastar, and then just talk about some venues
in general that you have fondness for are not so much.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So I have seen like Amerastar runs the entire spectrum
Gimbett whatever you want to call it, of good shows,
great shows, bad shows. So the good shows I saw there,
Willie Nelson pool on one of my top two favorite
Willie shows there. It's probably fifteen, sixteen years years ago.
(09:01):
He was alert, he was on fire, perfect show, and
I was close the Pretenders. That version of the Pretenders
at that point was just probably around the same time.
Actually that was probably like two thousand and eight or nine.
It was so good. But I saw Vince Neil from
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Motley Crue, who probably the worst show I've ever seen,
just because he stumbled out. I mean he saw the
size of the crowd and was like, no one's here.
All right, I'm gonna give you the show you deserve.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Blame it on the crowd. And it lasted like seventy
five minutes.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
But it gave me some good jobs to include in
the review. So you know, every once in a while
you get to be snarky and for a good reason,
and I save it for shows like that. But you know,
the dynamic of the casinos is that, like a lot
of the high rollers get tickets, so a show can
be sold out, but you go in there and there's
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like it's half empty or half full, right because a
lot of them don't want to go see Vince Snail
or the Pretenders even or even Willie Nelson.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
So it's a.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
It's a it's a place Loretto Olin played there was
I didn't go to the show, but that's it's like
we need a paycheck and we're on the way, let's whatever.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Who cares.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
So Maystar is is it's kind of an outlier. But
the Folly, I mean, if I were to name my
favorite venues, it starts with Starlight. For me, absolutely, there's
no better. Everything about that place is perfect, the setting
and when the weather's good. You know, I've been to
so many shows where like the weather almost outplayed the
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band because it's just so perfect, you know. And the
Folly is one obviously, the Coffin Center, all those rooms
are perfect, are great. The small venues, the arenas are
what they are, and also the big theaters in Midland,
the uptown they were built for two sticks. Sometimes that
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some engineers, the younger ones, don't realize you don't really
really need to amplify because you know, this was built
before there was electric amplifications.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
So anyway, so there's that.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
But the Truman is a really good place. I like
that place, so I've seen many shows there so but
it's so Starlight to me, is right is the always
always The Gump and the Folly is great, and the
history behind that that room in that building is it's
really impressive.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I've seen so many shows there because my wife
was on the folly board for quite a few years.
But the other side of the spectrum for Starlight, I
just can't believe that somebody else hasn't stepped in. You know,
most major American cities now have some cool version of
what Sandstone, as it's been known for years and its
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share traded off corporate names, is like an outdoor venue
that's a little bigger that bigger acts can play at.
It might be on a you know, a lake front
or something like that. There you see the names of them,
you know what they are because it'll say, you know,
Tom Penny and the Heartbreakers are playing at you know,
Happy Valley Center or whatever the hell it is. And
(12:23):
I cannot believe that that place, you know, abides it's
it's still there, I guess, you know, and because I
think it is what it is. It's a place where
you can in the summertime get upwards of twenty thousand
people in a venue, and nobody else has decided to
do something like that, And.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
It's like the place doesn't really floss his teeth. Sorry,
every time, I looks like.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Yes, it's got the same video boards and why because
people show up, you know, right, But it's like the whole,
the whole empathy or things like the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I mean, Starlight is is just a half the amphitheater
that Sandstone is. And I will always call it that.
Of course everyone does. It's just what you do. And
I will say Sprint Center four times before I say
whatever it becomes again.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But it's probably been Tea Mobile as long as it
was Sprint Center now.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
But who knows almost, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't know who could play out there that I
would be attracted to drive all the way out there,
put up with the parking and everything.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I know people who run it, I love them, they're well,
I don't. I don't love them.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I respect them because they've been in the music business
for a long time and to keep that place going
and to bring in you know, anytime people are buying tickets.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
To music, right, I'm all for it.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
So but yeah, that's like that's like going back to
your old high school and they're like, oh, the rooms
are a lot smaller, right, nothing has changed exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well, I'll report on how it sounds to me like
you're saying, AmeriStar, just depend if the show's good, you'll
have a good time, and that's fine. The parking is easy.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, it's like the food's good. Who cares about the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Right, exactly. Well, let's talk a little bit about an
article in New York Times. A very interesting person for
years in his music and his outside of music life
is Kat Stevens. And of course he is usef he
has been for many years. His real name, or the
name that he has adopted whatever, I don't even know
what his actual real name is. It's not Kat Stevens,
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and it's not that name either, I don't think, uh,
but a profile of him is always interesting. He was
a large part of many baby boomers teenage lives, particularly
teenage girls maybe, although I think his music is better
than that. It's not like it's like teenage girl music.
It's excellent music and musically interesting. And so that's an
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interesting cat to talk about.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
So his real name was Stephen with the V and
it's Georgiu, which sounds Greek g e o r g
i o U. So how he turned it into Cat Stevens,
I don't know, but yes, so I was introduced to him.
I was bombarded with his music by my older sisters.
He was a he was a striking man, like in
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the early seventies. Like I told her, he looked like
this swashbuckling d'Artagnan guy.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Very right, that's like looking perfect skin.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And his music was was enticing because he could write
melodies and.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Lyrically.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I got a lot, I got a lot of bones
to pick with him. But that's okay. I listened to
his records. It feels more like nostalgia than oh he's
his music has evolved in a good way because you know,
it's it's of a time and place. He has a
place in Harold and Maud, one of my favorite movies ever,
so that wins him a lot of points. But yeah,
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so he went on. This article explains that he went
through three very traumatic experiences where he almost fell to
his death after trying to jump between buildings in London
or something. He had tuberculosis, which he recovered from slowly,
and then he almost drowned one So that's what aroused
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in him, the spiritualism like I shouldn't be alive, I
shouldn't be here. This is while he was putting on
his record and that influences music. So anyway, this just
follows him through his travails and his conversion to Islam,
which was tumultuous. He'd stopped making music for thirty years,
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So I would recommend this article. It's a little long,
but if you were invested in him at any time,
I'm going to send it to my sisters because I
know they will be if they haven't read it already.
But yeah, he's an interesting guy and there are some
of his songs that I just adore, like he nailed
some songs like but he has lyrics like if I
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ever lose my mouth on my teeth North and South,
like it's like Doctor South. We used to joke if
I ever lose my chest on my ribs East and West,
come on, come on, Kat, let's keep it going.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But let's do better.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean, he was not. It was not. It
was not a great.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Lyricist, which I will bring up this major objection I have.
Art Garfuggle inducted him into the Hall of Fame. I
said that Kat Stevens was much better than Paul Simon
because Art Garfuggle can't get over Paul Simon. I don't
want to punch him in the face for saying that
right now, but come on, like okay, but Cat Stevens
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has his place, and it's just his return to music
was prompted in some ways by his son who by
the guitar, and the daughter, and they wanted to, you know,
indulge in their dad's pretty big music history. So that's
what prompted this. And he's sort of he's straddling a
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line because in his spiritual religious world music it's not accepted.
So anyway, it's a little complicated, but you have to
be interested in him probably to finish it. But I
did it was it was revelatory.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Very interesting article. And Tim always recommends the music scene
at the New York Times, and why wouldn't you. We
keep keeping those kind of things alive is very important
in our world, I would say. Up next, we'll talk
about a few of the passings in our music world
and peripheral to it, and some other things as well.
It's all part of Danny and Tim's Music Scene, Arts
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Welcome back. Before we get to some of the passings,
let's talk about some things that are anniversaries but not passings,
and that is Pink Floyd their fiftieth anniversary of their
album which You Were Here, which is dedicated obviously to
their lost band mate, and it actually includes a Pink
Floyd song that I like. I like shine on You
(22:18):
Crazy Diamond. Okay, there you go. For those of you
who think I don't like any Pink Floyd music, I
do like that song actually quite a bit. And there
are many, many people and they're brilliant musicians. I know
all this, so I'm never going to try to I
had a at the reunion.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I was just dead.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I off handedly mentioned I didn't like Pink Floyd, and
I that never goes anywhere. So anyway, for fans of them, there,
it's remastered. You can get it in any different format
you would like, and that obviously is one of three
or four albums by them that are iconic and worthy
of an anniversary.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I love plenty of their songs, early stuff, Sid Barrett,
post Sid Barrett.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
So yeah, I'm just gonna well, there's a road to
go down that I won't we'll we'll save it for later.
But yeah, so I'm gonna take a little sidetrack here.
That is, I say that I like a lot, take
a lot. I like a lot of Pink Floyd Roger
Waters is very provocative.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
He's a provocateur. I saw the wall. So he did a.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Sprint Center when it was Sprint Center. Amazing, and I
just love that he's fearlessly I'm going to say what's
on my mind, and.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
It happens to be that I agree with a lot
of what he says.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
So but what I've stumbled on in these in my
late night I can't go to sleep, you know, forages
into the internet and YouTube is these what he calls
flash mobs. And there's one with wish you were here
take place in this mall. It looks like it's in
Britain somewhere, but it's these are are great. It's like
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people sitting around obviously there they are video. The videography
is choreographic. Got cameras everywhere, so and you can be
conspicuous with a camera. It's not like you're a TV
guy in nineteen seventy, right. So anyway, that's one if
you just if you just google that and how it
speaks to the power of music like which we will
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probably spill over two maybe after this, but and then
I just stumbled on one. It's on Bohemian Rhapsody and
it's outdoor somewhere, and I just love watching people, watching
people react to music like that.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
They weren't expecting some of it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
If you want to say some of its stage, well,
of course it is what stage and what isn't it's
hard hard to figure out. But I just love it.
And when it's a song, I really like it's I
love it. It's just fulfilling and it's like, you know,
like I was posted about a Mark Knopfler song, It's like, yeah,
this is what fills my brain with with.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Hope.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yes. And you mentioned the soundtracks and they're worth exploring
and they are obviously sort of pseudo solo album for
Mark Knopfler. He has been making solo albums now since
the late nineteen nineties. And I have them all and
they're outstanding, and they're different from Dire Straits and they
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explorings unbelievably creative lyricist and I just can highly recommend
if you want a quick dose, if this is something
that you think might be up your alley. There are
these mini documentaries. I was in a gym where you
couldn't hear the TV or a TV didn't work, so
I was using my phone and youtubing and I just
found these two I watched too, anyway, sixteen seventeen minute
(25:48):
mini documentaries about the two of his solo albums, Ragpickers
Dream and Killed to Get Crimson. And he explains them
meeting behind some of the songs and then puts in
other little stories, and his musicians that he's played with
for many years now talk about the recording process and
(26:08):
the engineer and producer talks, and it's just interesting on
multiple levels for a music fan. But I'm glad to
hear that you get music therapy for Mark Knoppler. That
makes me smile.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Well, think about a soundtracks and I'm really only really
deeply familiar with local heroes Cal Last, Exes to Brooklyn
and Princess Briane, and I can like it's all instrumental,
but like I memorize them in my head. Sometimes when
I don't have access to them, I'll just I'll just
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play it. They're very different. I mean, Cal's dark less,
exu to Brooklyn is dark. The thing about that soundtrack
is when my wife was pregnant with our first child,
I made these, you know, cassette compilations of mostly instrumental stuff,
just to together through labor which right which there were
you which work, and then to get our kid to sleep,
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and that was part of it. So that last seg
just the Brooklyn was And so when I hear that, man,
it just takes me back to that, to the hospital
and everything. It's just it's crazy how powerful music can be.
And yeah, his his soundtracks. It's like non pharmaceutical uppers
(27:25):
or something.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
That's very cool when speaking of soundtracks. And it's a
side portion of being able to pay tribute to the
immense talents of Robert Redford, who basically was dismissed some
somewhat as just a pretty boy actor when he was young,
eventually had much more gravitas in that regard, became a
fantastic director. But certainly every text stream I've seen or
(27:51):
whatever usually comes around to me making some mention of
Robert Redford's looks, that's for sure. U. But he was
involved obviously with the sting which we were talking about,
really was maybe the first, well since maybe the fifties,
where you know, musical theater records would sell a lot
of copies where a soundtrack became hit music.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, because I saw the movie when it came out.
I don't think I completely understood it. It was a
little you know, early on the cusp, barely in on
the outskirts of puberty. But Paul Newman, my mother, George
Paul Muman but Chess probably had a side, you know,
(28:35):
crush on Robert.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Redfords that she didn't let my father know about.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
But we just loved those movies, and my dad bought
so much music, brought it into our lives and I
wore that thing out.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Sound track to this thing.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
It was Marvin Hamlet's doing Scott Joplin and just all
instrumental talking about Mark Knopfler. But what a joyous It's
just such a moment that even the director short of
movie realized this music didn't really fit the time of
the of the movie. It was well before the movie,
but they're like, eh, who cares, who's gonna know or care?
(29:10):
So it was just really good confluence because the mood
of the music in Marvin Hamlischh's arrangements just really fit
everything about that movie. It's it's it's one of those
perfect movies that I hope no one ever tries to
recreate again. That and the soundtrack, because that's just like
(29:31):
a really perfect moment in time. Robert River made so
many great movies like Picking, you could pick twenty of
them and so leave them out. So, yeah, he and
I were born on the same Yeah, not the same
date obviously, but he's an eighteener and I'm like, yeah,
that's the only thing I have in common with them,
but it's okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So fellow Leo says, my birthday somewhat close to that. Also, Well,
let's talk a little bit about some of the passings
we've had, and a very interesting phenomenon flash amazement of
unbelievable success and then you know, creative differences sent it
in a different direction. Was Super Tramp and Rick Davies,
(30:14):
the co founder and writer of some of their bigger
songs about split with with hodgton Is. He died at
the age of eighty one, so good long run. The
band broke up or set went different directions in nineteen
eighty two. And when I was in college, you couldn't,
you know, throw, you couldn't walk past one dorm room
(30:36):
without here in Supertramp, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Well that's what that's what they remind me. Of because
I didn't was an interest to them until college.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And one of my dearest dearest friends who was no
longer with us, Mark, we would we were roommates for
like three years, but we got to know each other
in the dorms and I just can remember so many,
so many nights playing back him and the album we
would play would be like Crime of the Century, you
know that album in particular, just and we were, you know.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Doing what wasn't legal then but its legal now.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And this is like an exact replica right down to
the backgam of what I could tell as a story.
And yes, and these substances also, but and also I
mean and I think it was, yes, I can smell
the bong one, the uh the And this was also
an era where certain albums, certain you know, groups or whatever,
(31:35):
were the I think part of the inspiration for these
elaborate sound systems that and speakers that people used to
buy back in the day, and certain songs that resonate,
like the runout to Goodbye Stranger with the guitar solo
is one that I think is one that was maybe
even specially designed for speakers like that. Anyway, that that
(31:57):
certainly is a moment in time and a great contribution
to musical memories.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
They're also a band that people absolutely lobe like yes,
both Anyone's Boys, they like, you know, more than you
hate Pink Floyd or just like Deploy. But it's like,
oh there, I mean, it was just a kind of
nowhere in my Feet is like, God, I can't I
forget how totally awful.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Super Tramp was like, well, don't listen to him then whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Right, more for me because there was a remake of
one of their songs about fifteen twenty years ago is
a huge hit and people are like, no, I don't
want it, I don't don't bring it back.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Well something rather a cat being strangled, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Something completely different. About a week ago, the famed songwriter
Bobby Hart died Now he was had a good long run.
He was eighty six years old. He was part of
the songwriting team and at times performing Team Boys and
Heart with Tommy Boyce, and they were responsible for many
of the Monkey hits, including the Monkey's Song. For fans
(33:03):
of a different genre, they Bobby Hart actually wrote the
theme to Days of Our Lives, the soap opera, but
they did songs for Jay and the Americans come a
little bit closer. I'm Not Your stepping Stone by Paul
Raverer and the Raiders all kinds of stuff hurt so bad,
which eventually become a great song for Linda Ronstadt by
(33:25):
Little Anthony. Boyce and Hart were everywhere. They had some
of their own hits. I wonder what she's doing tonight,
But you could look at many A forty five and
see Boyce and Heart written on it in the parentheses
on the record.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Yes, and I don't understand why they aren't as appreciated
as you know, Goffin, Kang Holland, Doser Holland, or because
they Paul Simon like, they pumped out all these two
and a half two minute, forty five seconds pop songs
that were just brilliant. They were from that whole brill building.
(34:02):
They weren't part of that, They were peripheral to it. So, yes,
they were amazing, and they're not really remembered. I think
maybe the monkeys that novelty is sort of overshadowed or
somehow diminished the integrity of their songs.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
But I don't think so. They were.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
They deserve to be much more famous and respected than
they were or.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Are yeah, I totally agree with that. And by the way,
let's finish up by wishing good cheer. We talk about
this often on this podcast. To Lady Gaga, who this
evening is not performing a concert because she has strained
vocal chords. We've seen this so many times, and Aerosmith's
final tour lasted not nearly as long as it was
(34:46):
supposed to do. By the way, they are doing some
kind of a collaboration with a rapper for a song
that's coming out. But we talked about Lady Gaga and
our admiration for her on multiple levels in a while.
So good luck to Lady Gaga. We hope she gets
a lot of nice hot tea with lemon and she
can continue to perform because this is a new big
(35:06):
tour for her.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
It's sort of I don't want to use the word resurrection,
but it's kind of like coming back from what I
don't even know was oblivion, but that's how it's been framed.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Yeah, she'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
She's like I said, if I were to pick someone
post Prince who could challenge him for being as as
much of an entertainer as he was, it would She'd
be the first one to come to mind, because she's
just I love her. I've seen her like four times.
I like what I know about her, what I've seen
about her, So yes, it would be It would be
(35:42):
good for her to be back in the music universe.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Anybody who can go from wearing elaborate costumes on stage
to create a different persona to singing torch songs with
Tony Bennett is fine by me.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yes, yes, she's absolutely as as diverse as anyone.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Tim always a pleasure. We always enjoy our bi weekly
get together as you be well, and we'll look forward
to talking again in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Sounds good, Danny. Thanks.
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I've got a couple of concerts coming up that I've
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Are there are, of the course, the usual combination and
blend of people who have passed who are major contributors
in the music scene. In this time around. They were
rather old, so it wasn't really tragic. It was just
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maybe sort of allows you to pay tribute to these
people and remember them. Of course, one of those is
peripherally related to the music industry, and that's Robert Redford,
who died this week. And also Tim has been using
Mark Knopfler soundtracks as therapy, and I have a little
suggestion as far as those of you who might be
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certainly everybody knows that. But they've got a fiftieth anniversary,
big relief of things coming out, as do the Beatles.
It's not an anniversary, but they're always putting out new
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know these are little easter eggs or whatever, but the
always uncharismatic Roger Goodell was on the Today Show this
week and he gave everybody a little tease about put
(04:43):
the potential for Taylor Swift being at the super Bowl.
I would say, if you're just kind of teasing these things, Tim,
it's probably more, uh, there's more, probably more smoke than
not smoke in this regard. And you know, the Chiefs
don't look like they're super Bowl bound right now, so
why not think about Taylor playing the super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
There is a lot of fatigue in this world, and
there are levels of fatigue.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
And I just I.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Don't know what to think about that. Like, look, her
fans are gonna a're gonna love it no matter what.
She She has an army that's galvanized, and but yeah,
I think she's fans are like, you know what happens
when your team starts to.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Deteriorate slightly around the edges and.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Fans get things, get discouraged and disappointed, and there's even
grumblings like.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I don't know, blame blame Taylor Swift because because it
looks like because it looks like Travis Kelsey is all
upset and maybe maybe you know she's not treating him
right or something.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I guess it's not the offensive line is Taylor Swift.
Let's let's be clear. So anyway, Yeah, I mean she would,
I don't she would be as big as Beyonce. I'll
say there's no one bigger than her. There are some
stars as big as her, for sure. So I hope
she wasn't, like she didn't sign on the dead line,
figuring out her fiance would also be there. But you know,
(06:11):
you never know in the locker room, but you never
know who knows. Yeah, shecles.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
You can't really measure how she was part of this,
of this run by this football team, and how much
juice she added to it.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Let's let's just enjoy it. I don't. I don't get
the resentment.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
And like I've made it clear since the first time
I saw her, I'm a fan of her.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Her music.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I embraced it because I've heard enough of it that
I like it. My daughters play it or have played it,
and but also just the person I've become that I've
learned to know like who she is. She's she's got resolved,
she's good. I yeah, So she's been good for this city.
And if you don't see that, I can't help you.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah. I think she absolutely has. And this city has
many good attributes to it, and one of those is
it's a very vibrant music city. I am seeing Marty
Stewart on Friday. I've mentioned that a couple of times
on this podcast, but this time around it's at Amerastar.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I've seen him at the Fowley Theater and I've seen
him at the Kaufman Center, and those are infinitely better
venues than the Amerastar. I have seen one AmeriStar show,
and that was Todd Rudgren. The venue is fine. I
don't have really strong memories of it. It was about ten
years ago, I think, and Todd Rudgren wasn't great. I
didn't think in that particular setting. So I'm kind of
(07:37):
curious what it's going to be like for to have that.
And I thought that might be a good jumping off
point because also in the next couple of weeks, I'm
going back to the Kaufman Center to see Bella Fleck
and I'm also going to what has always been called Sandstone.
It's a z or amphitheater. It's really for me to
guilty pleasure my annual visit to see thirty eight special.
(07:59):
But Kansas Is also playing, and hope they're first. It
says they're special guests. I hope Jefferson starship so I
can show up late and miss that. But that's aid
azure amphitheater. So e eke. Yeah. I remember when somebody
clued me in that this was the show. I said, well,
one out of three isn't bad. And I've since tarked
(08:20):
to people, and I guess Kansas Is still does a
professional job. There's a couple members of the band there.
But just well, first of all, just to say give us,
give me a flavor of what I'm going to find
at a Marastar, and then just talk about some venues
in general that you have fondness for are not so much.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
So I have seen like Amerastar runs the entire spectrum
Gimbett whatever you want to call it, of good shows,
great shows, bad shows. So the good shows I saw there,
Willie Nelson pool on one of my top two favorite
Willie shows there. It's probably fifteen, sixteen years years ago.
(09:01):
He was alert, he was on fire, perfect show, and
I was close the Pretenders. That version of the Pretenders
at that point was just probably around the same time.
Actually that was probably like two thousand and eight or nine.
It was so good. But I saw Vince Neil from
(09:22):
Motley Crue, who probably the worst show I've ever seen,
just because he stumbled out. I mean he saw the
size of the crowd and was like, no one's here.
All right, I'm gonna give you the show you deserve.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Blame it on the crowd. And it lasted like seventy
five minutes.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
But it gave me some good jobs to include in
the review. So you know, every once in a while
you get to be snarky and for a good reason,
and I save it for shows like that. But you know,
the dynamic of the casinos is that, like a lot
of the high rollers get tickets, so a show can
be sold out, but you go in there and there's
(10:06):
like it's half empty or half full, right because a
lot of them don't want to go see Vince Snail
or the Pretenders even or even Willie Nelson.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
So it's a.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
It's a it's a place Loretto Olin played there was
I didn't go to the show, but that's it's like
we need a paycheck and we're on the way, let's whatever.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Who cares.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
So Maystar is is it's kind of an outlier. But
the Folly, I mean, if I were to name my
favorite venues, it starts with Starlight. For me, absolutely, there's
no better. Everything about that place is perfect, the setting
and when the weather's good. You know, I've been to
so many shows where like the weather almost outplayed the
(10:48):
band because it's just so perfect, you know. And the
Folly is one obviously, the Coffin Center, all those rooms
are perfect, are great. The small venues, the arenas are
what they are, and also the big theaters in Midland,
the uptown they were built for two sticks. Sometimes that
(11:09):
some engineers, the younger ones, don't realize you don't really
really need to amplify because you know, this was built
before there was electric amplifications.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
So anyway, so there's that.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
But the Truman is a really good place. I like
that place, so I've seen many shows there so but
it's so Starlight to me, is right is the always
always The Gump and the Folly is great, and the
history behind that that room in that building is it's
really impressive.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I've seen so many shows there because my wife
was on the folly board for quite a few years.
But the other side of the spectrum for Starlight, I
just can't believe that somebody else hasn't stepped in. You know,
most major American cities now have some cool version of
what Sandstone, as it's been known for years and its
(12:03):
share traded off corporate names, is like an outdoor venue
that's a little bigger that bigger acts can play at.
It might be on a you know, a lake front
or something like that. There you see the names of them,
you know what they are because it'll say, you know,
Tom Penny and the Heartbreakers are playing at you know,
Happy Valley Center or whatever the hell it is. And
(12:23):
I cannot believe that that place, you know, abides it's
it's still there, I guess, you know, and because I
think it is what it is. It's a place where
you can in the summertime get upwards of twenty thousand
people in a venue, and nobody else has decided to
do something like that, And.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
It's like the place doesn't really floss his teeth. Sorry,
every time, I looks like.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Yes, it's got the same video boards and why because
people show up, you know, right, But it's like the whole,
the whole empathy or things like the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
I mean, Starlight is is just a half the amphitheater
that Sandstone is. And I will always call it that.
Of course everyone does. It's just what you do. And
I will say Sprint Center four times before I say
whatever it becomes again.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But it's probably been Tea Mobile as long as it
was Sprint Center now.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
But who knows almost, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't know who could play out there that I
would be attracted to drive all the way out there,
put up with the parking and everything.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I know people who run it, I love them, they're well,
I don't. I don't love them.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I respect them because they've been in the music business
for a long time and to keep that place going
and to bring in you know, anytime people are buying tickets.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
To music, right, I'm all for it.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
So but yeah, that's like that's like going back to
your old high school and they're like, oh, the rooms
are a lot smaller, right, nothing has changed exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well, I'll report on how it sounds to me like
you're saying, AmeriStar, just depend if the show's good, you'll
have a good time, and that's fine. The parking is easy.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, it's like the food's good. Who cares about the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Right, exactly. Well, let's talk a little bit about an
article in New York Times. A very interesting person for
years in his music and his outside of music life
is Kat Stevens. And of course he is usef he
has been for many years. His real name, or the
name that he has adopted whatever, I don't even know
what his actual real name is. It's not Kat Stevens,
(14:33):
and it's not that name either, I don't think, uh,
but a profile of him is always interesting. He was
a large part of many baby boomers teenage lives, particularly
teenage girls maybe, although I think his music is better
than that. It's not like it's like teenage girl music.
It's excellent music and musically interesting. And so that's an
(14:58):
interesting cat to talk about.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
So his real name was Stephen with the V and
it's Georgiu, which sounds Greek g e o r g
i o U. So how he turned it into Cat Stevens,
I don't know, but yes, so I was introduced to him.
I was bombarded with his music by my older sisters.
He was a he was a striking man, like in
(15:24):
the early seventies. Like I told her, he looked like
this swashbuckling d'Artagnan guy.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Very right, that's like looking perfect skin.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And his music was was enticing because he could write
melodies and.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Lyrically.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I got a lot, I got a lot of bones
to pick with him. But that's okay. I listened to
his records. It feels more like nostalgia than oh he's
his music has evolved in a good way because you know,
it's it's of a time and place. He has a
place in Harold and Maud, one of my favorite movies ever,
so that wins him a lot of points. But yeah,
(16:06):
so he went on. This article explains that he went
through three very traumatic experiences where he almost fell to
his death after trying to jump between buildings in London
or something. He had tuberculosis, which he recovered from slowly,
and then he almost drowned one So that's what aroused
(16:26):
in him, the spiritualism like I shouldn't be alive, I
shouldn't be here. This is while he was putting on
his record and that influences music. So anyway, this just
follows him through his travails and his conversion to Islam,
which was tumultuous. He'd stopped making music for thirty years,
(16:48):
So I would recommend this article. It's a little long,
but if you were invested in him at any time,
I'm going to send it to my sisters because I
know they will be if they haven't read it already.
But yeah, he's an interesting guy and there are some
of his songs that I just adore, like he nailed
some songs like but he has lyrics like if I
(17:11):
ever lose my mouth on my teeth North and South,
like it's like Doctor South. We used to joke if
I ever lose my chest on my ribs East and West,
come on, come on, Kat, let's keep it going.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But let's do better.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean, he was not. It was not. It
was not a great.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Lyricist, which I will bring up this major objection I have.
Art Garfuggle inducted him into the Hall of Fame. I
said that Kat Stevens was much better than Paul Simon
because Art Garfuggle can't get over Paul Simon. I don't
want to punch him in the face for saying that
right now, but come on, like okay, but Cat Stevens
(17:52):
has his place, and it's just his return to music
was prompted in some ways by his son who by
the guitar, and the daughter, and they wanted to, you know,
indulge in their dad's pretty big music history. So that's
what prompted this. And he's sort of he's straddling a
(18:12):
line because in his spiritual religious world music it's not accepted.
So anyway, it's a little complicated, but you have to
be interested in him probably to finish it. But I
did it was it was revelatory.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Very interesting article. And Tim always recommends the music scene
at the New York Times, and why wouldn't you. We
keep keeping those kind of things alive is very important
in our world, I would say. Up next, we'll talk
about a few of the passings in our music world
and peripheral to it, and some other things as well.
It's all part of Danny and Tim's Music Scene, Arts
(18:50):
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Welcome back. Before we get to some of the passings,
let's talk about some things that are anniversaries but not passings,
and that is Pink Floyd their fiftieth anniversary of their
album which You Were Here, which is dedicated obviously to
their lost band mate, and it actually includes a Pink
Floyd song that I like. I like shine on You
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Crazy Diamond. Okay, there you go. For those of you
who think I don't like any Pink Floyd music, I
do like that song actually quite a bit. And there
are many, many people and they're brilliant musicians. I know
all this, so I'm never going to try to I
had a at the reunion.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I was just dead.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I off handedly mentioned I didn't like Pink Floyd, and
I that never goes anywhere. So anyway, for fans of them, there,
it's remastered. You can get it in any different format
you would like, and that obviously is one of three
or four albums by them that are iconic and worthy
of an anniversary.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I love plenty of their songs, early stuff, Sid Barrett,
post Sid Barrett.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
So yeah, I'm just gonna well, there's a road to
go down that I won't we'll we'll save it for later.
But yeah, so I'm gonna take a little sidetrack here.
That is, I say that I like a lot, take
a lot. I like a lot of Pink Floyd Roger
Waters is very provocative.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
He's a provocateur. I saw the wall. So he did a.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Sprint Center when it was Sprint Center. Amazing, and I
just love that he's fearlessly I'm going to say what's
on my mind, and.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
It happens to be that I agree with a lot
of what he says.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
So but what I've stumbled on in these in my
late night I can't go to sleep, you know, forages
into the internet and YouTube is these what he calls
flash mobs. And there's one with wish you were here
take place in this mall. It looks like it's in
Britain somewhere, but it's these are are great. It's like
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people sitting around obviously there they are video. The videography
is choreographic. Got cameras everywhere, so and you can be
conspicuous with a camera. It's not like you're a TV
guy in nineteen seventy, right. So anyway, that's one if
you just if you just google that and how it
speaks to the power of music like which we will
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probably spill over two maybe after this, but and then
I just stumbled on one. It's on Bohemian Rhapsody and
it's outdoor somewhere, and I just love watching people, watching
people react to music like that.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
They weren't expecting some of it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
If you want to say some of its stage, well,
of course it is what stage and what isn't it's
hard hard to figure out. But I just love it.
And when it's a song, I really like it's I
love it. It's just fulfilling and it's like, you know,
like I was posted about a Mark Knopfler song, It's like, yeah,
this is what fills my brain with with.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Hope.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yes. And you mentioned the soundtracks and they're worth exploring
and they are obviously sort of pseudo solo album for
Mark Knopfler. He has been making solo albums now since
the late nineteen nineties. And I have them all and
they're outstanding, and they're different from Dire Straits and they
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explorings unbelievably creative lyricist and I just can highly recommend
if you want a quick dose, if this is something
that you think might be up your alley. There are
these mini documentaries. I was in a gym where you
couldn't hear the TV or a TV didn't work, so
I was using my phone and youtubing and I just
found these two I watched too, anyway, sixteen seventeen minute
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mini documentaries about the two of his solo albums, Ragpickers
Dream and Killed to Get Crimson. And he explains them
meeting behind some of the songs and then puts in
other little stories, and his musicians that he's played with
for many years now talk about the recording process and
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the engineer and producer talks, and it's just interesting on
multiple levels for a music fan. But I'm glad to
hear that you get music therapy for Mark Knoppler. That
makes me smile.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Well, think about a soundtracks and I'm really only really
deeply familiar with local heroes Cal Last, Exes to Brooklyn
and Princess Briane, and I can like it's all instrumental,
but like I memorize them in my head. Sometimes when
I don't have access to them, I'll just I'll just
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play it. They're very different. I mean, Cal's dark less,
exu to Brooklyn is dark. The thing about that soundtrack
is when my wife was pregnant with our first child,
I made these, you know, cassette compilations of mostly instrumental stuff,
just to together through labor which right which there were
you which work, and then to get our kid to sleep,
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and that was part of it. So that last seg
just the Brooklyn was And so when I hear that, man,
it just takes me back to that, to the hospital
and everything. It's just it's crazy how powerful music can be.
And yeah, his his soundtracks. It's like non pharmaceutical uppers
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or something.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
That's very cool when speaking of soundtracks. And it's a
side portion of being able to pay tribute to the
immense talents of Robert Redford, who basically was dismissed some
somewhat as just a pretty boy actor when he was young,
eventually had much more gravitas in that regard, became a
fantastic director. But certainly every text stream I've seen or
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whatever usually comes around to me making some mention of
Robert Redford's looks, that's for sure. U. But he was
involved obviously with the sting which we were talking about,
really was maybe the first, well since maybe the fifties,
where you know, musical theater records would sell a lot
of copies where a soundtrack became hit music.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, because I saw the movie when it came out.
I don't think I completely understood it. It was a
little you know, early on the cusp, barely in on
the outskirts of puberty. But Paul Newman, my mother, George
Paul Muman but Chess probably had a side, you know,
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crush on Robert.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Redfords that she didn't let my father know about.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
But we just loved those movies, and my dad bought
so much music, brought it into our lives and I
wore that thing out.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Sound track to this thing.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
It was Marvin Hamlet's doing Scott Joplin and just all
instrumental talking about Mark Knopfler. But what a joyous It's
just such a moment that even the director short of
movie realized this music didn't really fit the time of
the of the movie. It was well before the movie,
but they're like, eh, who cares, who's gonna know or care?
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So it was just really good confluence because the mood
of the music in Marvin Hamlischh's arrangements just really fit
everything about that movie. It's it's it's one of those
perfect movies that I hope no one ever tries to
recreate again. That and the soundtrack, because that's just like
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a really perfect moment in time. Robert River made so
many great movies like Picking, you could pick twenty of
them and so leave them out. So, yeah, he and
I were born on the same Yeah, not the same
date obviously, but he's an eighteener and I'm like, yeah,
that's the only thing I have in common with them,
but it's okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So fellow Leo says, my birthday somewhat close to that. Also, Well,
let's talk a little bit about some of the passings
we've had, and a very interesting phenomenon flash amazement of
unbelievable success and then you know, creative differences sent it
in a different direction. Was Super Tramp and Rick Davies,
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the co founder and writer of some of their bigger
songs about split with with hodgton Is. He died at
the age of eighty one, so good long run. The
band broke up or set went different directions in nineteen
eighty two. And when I was in college, you couldn't,
you know, throw, you couldn't walk past one dorm room
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without here in Supertramp, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Well that's what that's what they remind me. Of because
I didn't was an interest to them until college.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And one of my dearest dearest friends who was no
longer with us, Mark, we would we were roommates for
like three years, but we got to know each other
in the dorms and I just can remember so many,
so many nights playing back him and the album we
would play would be like Crime of the Century, you
know that album in particular, just and we were, you know.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Doing what wasn't legal then but its legal now.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And this is like an exact replica right down to
the backgam of what I could tell as a story.
And yes, and these substances also, but and also I
mean and I think it was, yes, I can smell
the bong one, the uh the And this was also
an era where certain albums, certain you know, groups or whatever,
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were the I think part of the inspiration for these
elaborate sound systems that and speakers that people used to
buy back in the day, and certain songs that resonate,
like the runout to Goodbye Stranger with the guitar solo
is one that I think is one that was maybe
even specially designed for speakers like that. Anyway, that that
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certainly is a moment in time and a great contribution
to musical memories.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
They're also a band that people absolutely lobe like yes,
both Anyone's Boys, they like, you know, more than you
hate Pink Floyd or just like Deploy. But it's like,
oh there, I mean, it was just a kind of
nowhere in my Feet is like, God, I can't I
forget how totally awful.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Super Tramp was like, well, don't listen to him then whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Right, more for me because there was a remake of
one of their songs about fifteen twenty years ago is
a huge hit and people are like, no, I don't
want it, I don't don't bring it back.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Well something rather a cat being strangled, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Something completely different. About a week ago, the famed songwriter
Bobby Hart died Now he was had a good long run.
He was eighty six years old. He was part of
the songwriting team and at times performing Team Boys and
Heart with Tommy Boyce, and they were responsible for many
of the Monkey hits, including the Monkey's Song. For fans
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of a different genre, they Bobby Hart actually wrote the
theme to Days of Our Lives, the soap opera, but
they did songs for Jay and the Americans come a
little bit closer. I'm Not Your stepping Stone by Paul
Raverer and the Raiders all kinds of stuff hurt so bad,
which eventually become a great song for Linda Ronstadt by
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Little Anthony. Boyce and Hart were everywhere. They had some
of their own hits. I wonder what she's doing tonight,
But you could look at many A forty five and
see Boyce and Heart written on it in the parentheses
on the record.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Yes, and I don't understand why they aren't as appreciated
as you know, Goffin, Kang Holland, Doser Holland, or because
they Paul Simon like, they pumped out all these two
and a half two minute, forty five seconds pop songs
that were just brilliant. They were from that whole brill building.
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They weren't part of that, They were peripheral to it. So, yes,
they were amazing, and they're not really remembered. I think
maybe the monkeys that novelty is sort of overshadowed or
somehow diminished the integrity of their songs.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
But I don't think so. They were.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
They deserve to be much more famous and respected than
they were or.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Are yeah, I totally agree with that. And by the way,
let's finish up by wishing good cheer. We talk about
this often on this podcast. To Lady Gaga, who this
evening is not performing a concert because she has strained
vocal chords. We've seen this so many times, and Aerosmith's
final tour lasted not nearly as long as it was
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supposed to do. By the way, they are doing some
kind of a collaboration with a rapper for a song
that's coming out. But we talked about Lady Gaga and
our admiration for her on multiple levels in a while.
So good luck to Lady Gaga. We hope she gets
a lot of nice hot tea with lemon and she
can continue to perform because this is a new big
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tour for her.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
It's sort of I don't want to use the word resurrection,
but it's kind of like coming back from what I
don't even know was oblivion, but that's how it's been framed.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Yeah, she'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
She's like I said, if I were to pick someone
post Prince who could challenge him for being as as
much of an entertainer as he was, it would She'd
be the first one to come to mind, because she's
just I love her. I've seen her like four times.
I like what I know about her, what I've seen
about her, So yes, it would be It would be
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good for her to be back in the music universe.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Anybody who can go from wearing elaborate costumes on stage
to create a different persona to singing torch songs with
Tony Bennett is fine by me.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yes, yes, she's absolutely as as diverse as anyone.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Tim always a pleasure. We always enjoy our bi weekly
get together as you be well, and we'll look forward
to talking again in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Sounds good, Danny. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
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