October 29, 2025 • 38 mins
A jam-packed, informative, eclectic and enjoyable edition filled with tributes, documentaries, buried treasure stories, passings, and much more. Highlighting Trey Ananastasio, Rickie Lee jones, Warren Zevon, Patty Griffin, Ace Frehley, Sam Rivers, The Zombies, Setlist compilations, Sex Pistols, REM, The Milk Carton Kids, and more. Just a blast!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Danny Clinkscale Reasonably irreverent podcast, insightful and
witty commentary, probing, interviews and detours from the beaten path.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Arts and Lifestyle Wednesday. It's presented by Strategic Partners, Inc.
And Zach Roidemeier and his great team will help you
out financially. You can hear more details on that during
the course of this podcast. And it's Danny and Tim's
music scene. We get together every two weeks. We usually
talk just about as long before we start as we
do during the course of the podcast to talk about
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things and what we're going to talk about and what
we've researched. And we got a whole bunch of stuff
this time around. I don't know if I'm going to
get to all of it, but we've got some cool
upcoming Kansas City shows, some great documentaries, fantastic tributes to
artists who are finally getting their due and recognition, a
couple of passings of I would say mixed blessing bands
(00:59):
have lost a couple of very important members, which is
always sad, and whether you like the bands or not,
and also there's some interesting backstory type of things to
talk about including an alternate version of Good Vibrations.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
By the Beach Boys that I heard.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Also Ram and you can search out a very cool
ten minute video which is part of a longer short documentary.
We're going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That and some of the things that.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Bands will do that are a little bit different or offbeat,
which ties into a New York Times article about set
list FM, which is the sort of clearing house for
all things set lists and where I've gone through the
years when I wanted to know if you do want
to know what your band is likely to play when
you go see them in concert. There's all kinds of
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things to talk about, including commercials that are sticking in
your head and everything else in between. It's Arts and
Lifestyle Wednesday, presented by Strategic Partners, Inc. And Danny and
Tim's Music Scene right here.
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Speaker 3 (04:00):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Let's start it off with a favorite of both Tim's
and mine and David Letterman's and many many people, and
that is Warren Zevon. I told the story before that
I discovered Warren Zevon through the baseball writer Peter Gammons,
who used to put five selections at the end of
his baseball weekly Baseball Call him in the Boston Globe
way back in the day. And I discovered several artists
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through that. He was kind of a music nerd in
addition to being a baseball nerd, and one of those
was Warren Zevon, who had a tribute portrayed with him
in Los Angeles. I guess it's turned into an annual thing,
and Warren Zevon is about to be inducted finally into
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and tim this
sort of has affected generations of songwriters. His son was there,
(04:45):
Jackson Brown, was kind of in charge of the thing
and sounds pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, there's some I guess they do this in Los
Angeles maybe annually, where they pick an artist who deserves
a tribute, and this year it was it was Warren Zevon,
which maybe have been by happenstance, because I don't think
they arrange this that quickly, but it happened right before
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or not long before he gets inducted into the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame, which a lot of us
I think when we were frustrated with the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame was because why were people like
him getting the attention? And I think this affirms our
perception and sense that that place has changed, it's fixed,
and it's going back and fixing what was missing and
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what was wrong, and the fact that he's getting it
it just confirms to me that I'm much more interested
in every or show, especially the presentations where there are
tributes musical tributes to the stars. This will be an
indication of that, because it wasn't just people that were
his contemporaries, like you know, the backup band included Rick
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Moroda and Leland Sklar Jackson Brown, like you said, Jorge
and what was his last name, Yeah, anyway, one of his.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
Sidemen was was part of it.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
It was, but it's also other generations of songwriters like
Susan cow still sang a song right, members of Dream Syndicate,
those members of you know, bands from the eighties and
nineties who songwriters who were introduced to him and exposed
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to him and.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
His way of this very unique way of songwriting.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
He was trained classically, like Stravinsky was one of his
early instructors, because why it comes from a really artistic family,
and it was he made a turn in his career,
stopped doing pop songs and just like I'm gonna write
who I Am. And there's a really great description of
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him in the Times about like who he became and
what his like whole thing was he started talking about
because he was troubled and he dealt with addiction and
he started dealing with things like you know, death and
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macabre versions of life, like the song Excitable Boy. It's
this bouncy, jaunty pop song, you know, with backup vocals,
but he's writing about a guy who goes out on
a prom date with a girl, rapes her and kills
her and makes a cage of her bones. Like it's
like you're singing that, like wait, what I mean? It
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gets that dark? And you know, I thought Randy Newman
was dark, and then I listened to Warren Zevon and
it's like this is another whole place and he but
he could also be super sentimental and romantic. So his
his songwriting, you know, he had so many places to
draw from, and he was damaged, he got over his
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addictions and then he died young.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
So but there are.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Records of his that didn't really capture me, but the
stuff that did. He's the outliers of outliers, like I
was introduced to people like Mirandy Numan and Leonard Cohen
and just some of the darker, more unique songwriters. But
he's the one I kind of claim as I found
on my own, without my brother's help or my sister's help,
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or my cousin's help. And so he's always been a
favorite for that reason. I just saw that first record,
and I don't know, looks good, I'm buying it. I
saw who was on it because I read, you know,
the back of records and haven't stopped since.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
So like Dwight Yoakum was there.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
It's just if you read this article and see the
list of people who showed up to honor him, it
just confirms how great he was and how influential he was.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, let's just hope they made a video or a
concert tape of this or something and the CBS special
I don't care what they do, but it would be
nice to perhaps see that and see a set list
of that. In the time, also did a tribute to
the collection service set list FM.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Right, which you know you're familiar with, as you said,
and it became it became just a necessity for me
when I was reviewing shows and I needed to turn
them in very early the next day, and either I
had to check my set list against theirs, or you know,
sometimes fix it like or I missed the song. So
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and they're very rigid about contribute, like you have to
you have to apply to submit your set list and
then we'll check. And so I think it's probably ninety
five percent accurate, and if they're not sure, they'll say.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Song unknown, right, so right. But it's also just a
place to go to look.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
And like I said to you before, you just go
to set list FM and you just put in the
search Memorial Hall, Kansas City, Kansas and it goes back
to forever and like Janis Joplin and Frank Zappa in
places people came to town or Cowtown Ballroom. Like it's
just this reservoir of information of stuff that went on
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before you were born, why we're still alive and shows
you miss, you know, back playing at this little place
on on by the Star Building on Grand Avenue, you know,
in nineteen ninety five. It's you can get lost in
there for a while. But I would would, I would
contribute money I have. I don't use it because I
don't need to anymore, but man, it was a valuable
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resource when I was writing about live music.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, I would always urge people to you know, when
they said, they pop up on your screen if you
use Like I contributed five bucks to Wikipedia the other day.
I mean, I use I use Wikipedia all the time.
I mean, you know, it's not right of me to
just ignore it.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
And you know, yeah, I throw them money too, why not?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And so anyway, a couple of great things there. And
you mentioned the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and
people getting their due after a long time, and that
happened to the Zombies in twenty nineteen, long after their
first hits many many years, about fifty years, and they
played there and I saw that. It led to my
wife and I traveling across the country to seeing them
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because their performance of their songs, their metally of three
songs about a ten minute thing was really fantastic. And
in twenty twenty three, one of the Coppola family, Robert Schwartzman,
he is part of the Coppola Cadre, and he did
a documentary of the Zombies in twenty twenty three which
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is called hung Up on a Dream. I would highly
recommend it. Look it up. The every member except for
the original guitarist are still alive to tell stories and
things like that. It's also very timely because shortly after this,
Rod Argent finally said, you know, I'm taking my help,
my life in my hands from going up on stage.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I've had a couple of strokes. I'm going to hang
it up.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So this is really great sentimental it's a rock and
roll cautionary tale, which you've heard many times about bad management.
They were broken up by the time the Time of
the Season came out their album of Oracles and whatever
it was, it was misspelled. An Oracle has gone on
to be considered right up there with a couple of
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the Beatles albums as being influential, and they're very pleasant
and enjoyable people to listen to also, and Rod Argent.
One thing that was very interesting about him, Colin Blenstone
is the singer. He's a sweet guy and a great storyteller.
And Rod Argent you could tell he's kind of the
badass of the band and the leader and the one
who would kick ass and make sure that everything got
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done and he was fully willing to admit that too.
So it was really really cool, very it's almost two
hours long and it flies by.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
They really really use a lot of.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The music in it, and they sit at a soundboard
and listen to those type of things and I always
love that where the sound engineer is there.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Very very cool documentary.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Yeah, that record.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
I mean, they're known for their early you know, am hits,
which are great, they're timeless I love all of them,
but they're they're pivot to. Honestly, an Oracle Is is
just amazing. Like that record, it's only two different bands. Again,
they were influenced by things we'll talk about later, including
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the Beatles and Brian Wilson and just the whole production thing.
And it is this aria of It's just it's beautiful music.
It's like chamber pop, not garage, groove less, group driven.
It's it's like another band. But and I saw them
at south By. They did a they did a panel discussion.
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I saw them later. It was great. It was they
really put themselves into perspective. It was good to hear
them talk about that and what happened to them musically,
artistically and financially professionally. Bands like that, I mean, you
know there's so many bands like that. Think that comes
to mind right away. But yeah, it was bad for
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artists back then. They had so little control and they
were taken by so many bad people, and they're among that,
but they left behind so much great music.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
They did, indeed, and you mentioned it. So let's wrap
up the first segment with this. I listened to Deep Tracks,
which is a great station if you don't put it
on your presets on serious.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I think it's three thirty two now. I believe they
moved it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
It used to be right next to the seventies and
eighties channels. Anyway, they played deep tracks as you would imagine,
and I missed the complete introduction, but the host and
they also have good people who come on and tell
good stories about these records too. But it was an
alternate version. And I think you indicated when we talked
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oft the year that some of the collections that the
Beach Boys and Brian Wilson have done include many, many
recordings that never made records actually, and one of this
was an alternate track of Good Vibrations and one that
was supposed to be the re and Brian Wilson said, now,
we're not quite there yet, and he was right. It's
really good and it's really cool, and it's really different,
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but it's not that much different. I mean, it would
have been a hit on its own, but he persisted
and he got perfection. This one isn't perfection, and you
just you got an idea of the complete genius and
the dedication just making sure you know, I'm going to
get what I want here, and he did and we're
all the better for it.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Well, right, I think that was in the pet Sounds
box set, and I think I know what you're talking about,
but that just revealed how he had such a narrow
specific sound in mind of something he wanted, and no
matter how close you got to it, if it wasn't
what he was hearing, he was hearing a lot in
his head, a lot of it made it out and
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we're the better for it. Just an absolute savant genius,
you know, on a spectrum that none of us, a
few of us have been on, but just artistically, when
you blindside the Beatles with your stuff or the zombies,
you're doing something far and above what has happened. But
he was consuming all that too, and you know, we
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know what a troubled life he lived, this boy who
was awful, but thankfully, you know, he's able to listen
to his in herself and.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
He gave us the best of that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
No question about that, and we definitely are the better
for it. And of course there have been two pretty
well done theatrical movies about him also, so lots to
consume from Brian Wilson, and lots to consume still with us,
we'll talk about some more cool things. Coming up next,
It's Always Cool and Danny and Tim's Music Scene, part
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of Arts and Lifestyle Wednesday, presented by Strategic Partners, Inc.
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get to retirement, the more challenging these market swings can become.
I would like to get to know you and your
goals for the future. I offer financial planning services across
the United States, focusing mainly on Kansas and the Missouri area.
I look forward to meeting with you face to face
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with the highs and lows throughout the financial landscape. MY
goal is to make sure you feel protected once you've
set your retirement date. Growing up in a tight knit community,
I understand the importance of knowing that you can rely
on someone to have your back. I'm always a phone
call away to talk with you about your investments. Make
you feel you're getting the most out of your retirement.
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Give Zach a call today. It's Strategic Partners, Inc. Ask
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And sometimes you think to yourself, Wow, I'd like to
pull the trigger on this show or that show, and
I didn't do it. And the other day I was
at one of my favorite haunts, the Listening Room, doing
the Open Spin, and now they've changed their lineup a
little bit and they do Open Spin where you can
play any records you want from one to three thirty
and then they do a shortened version of They do
(20:16):
two hour programs that are heavily curated with a lot
of conversation and such, and then play an album. But
at four o'clock on Saturdays, they pretty much just do
a short introduction and then play an album. And the
album on Saturday which I didn't stay for I couldn't
stay for, was Ricky Lee Jones's second album, Pirates, and
she is playing with Patty Griffin tomorrow night at the
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Uptown a show that I'm really pained that I'm not
going to to great artists. They're not really the same,
but it sounds like a great mix and if you
enjoyed one, and you could definitely enjoy the other, even
though they're not really similar artists.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, but there's so much overlap.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Among their fans it makes complete sentence because chances are
if you're into the music of either, you're going to be.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Into the music of the other, like I am.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Like I kind of stopped following Ricky Lee Jones a
little bit, but the first record, just self titled was
it actually came out about, you know, in the middle
of the whole punk explosion, which we'll get to.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
But she it was so unique, it was so different.
It was jazzy, it was pop.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
It was you know, it was like she was the
confluence of Tom Waite's and Laura Nero and which I
didn't understand at the time, but now I get. She's
just sort of beat Nick from LA and she had
a mentor somebody out there. I should have looked up
his name, but yeah, she's she's unique. And there's a
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local angle, a guy like Dylan who's in a bunch
of bands who has been you're a bunch of bands
from Kansas City and he's from Texas down there, but
he was in her band. The last time I saw her,
or the only time I saw her which was in
June of twenty eighteen out at Grinders.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I don't know what this setup is like.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
I didn't explore because I know it couldn't go, but
it sounds like it might be just maybe an evening
with or.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
They'll it'll be Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I think it's an evening with right, which is fine,
you know, but Patty Griffin is an amazing songwriter. And
if you know, she has written like two or three
of the songs that the Dixie Chicks turned into mega hits,
so they have filled her coffers abundantly because of that.
From that, the home record alone has two or three
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songs on it. So she's a great songwriter. I saw her,
seen her a couple of times. I know she has
survived the cancer scare, which is great. I was going
to see her in this singer songwriter circle with like
Steve Burrel and Emilu Harris and the Milk Carton Boys.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
If you don't know them, look I know I do.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
They're great.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
So she couldn't make it, so.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I don't remember how they filled out her because she
was because she was ill. But she's back in touring.
That's great. So both of them. This is like to me.
It's a double billing, it's a double co headliners. It
might not be to other people, but I think.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
It's two of the best songwriters, male or female of
my generation.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, the first album by Ricky Lee Jones had Chucky's
in Love and that's probably her best known song.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Vicky Weiss was the guy yeah right yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But the song that the curator played the other day
and somebody said, well, I can't stay for the Ricky
Lee Jones either, could you play a track? And so
it's a song that I think people know, but they
wouldn't know it by the title. It was Woody and
Dutch on the Slow Train to Peaking, which might give
you a good idea the offbeat nature of Ricky Lee Jones.
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But on this album pirates the second album. Here are
some of the people who contributed to during the course
of this album, Donald Fagan, David Sanborn, Tom Scott, Chuck Rainey,
Steve gadd I mean all, Steve Lucather, almost all the
most famous session cats of that time and or great musicians,
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which shows the respect that she has.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Well, you put out a debut like that and it
gets the response that did you. People are going to
sign up to play on the next one. I mean,
I say that just sort of leadingly like, but I
remember that that first record just attracted so much praise
and attention that and the second one is probably even better.
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I just fell in love with the first one so
much that I probably didn't jump onto the second one
because it came out pretty soon afterwards, like records used
to do. She's she's an artist, she's a composer. She's
you know, not Patty Griffin's more of a traditional singer, songwriter, gifted.
I love her voice, her lyrically, she's supreme. But Ricky
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Jones is from another elements.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yes she is.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And speaking of the listening room, I've touted at many times,
and I don't try to tout it that much because
I like, sometimes I go to there and open to
spin Saturday, it's just me. The other day, I was
happy to know that there are about eight of us there,
and they also they had done sold out events all week,
so I was very happy for that place.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's a treasure.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And about a month ago I did stay for the
featured album, which was John Prine's first album, and that
was amazing. That was really amazing to hear and the
sound system is out of this world, which made me
very happy because now occasionally I'll go over to Discourse
Brewing and there's a man on Mondays who sells vinyl
out of boxes over there, and there's some real treasures there.
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And I don't even have a turntable. So what I'll
do now is buy a record and then bring it
to the listening room so I can listen to it.
And this time, this time around, I brought The Cars
first album and it the speakers off.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I mean, I played the first two songs on the
second side, which are You're All I've Got Tonight and
Bye Bye Love, which is probably my favorite Car song.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But anyway, the drums.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
But there was a young man there who had come
and he'd brought some sort of really offbeat music, which
was really cool.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Actually, they and that my two songs.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You get to play two songs at a clip and
if there's several people there, and I played my two
songs and it stopped on the downbeat at the end
of Bye Bye Love, and this guy just goes wow.
I never listened to the Cars before in my life.
That was unbelievable. What a tight band. I can't believe
the production, and he's going on and on and on.
It was written, it was really fun.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
I don't know how you could listen to that band
and not just fall into him right away because that
first record, Yes, I mean I put their records up
against anybody, especially the first two. Everything that followed was
really good, but those first two were just absolute perfection.
Not a bad song. Every song could have been a
hit production. I heard they they were not good live,
(27:03):
which no.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I've heard they're terrible live, but that's I think they
sort of make sense, sort of just stand there and play,
and I think they were super perfectionists. They're probably like
I think Rick Ocasik was little Donald Fagan like, but
also the power that what really stood out in this
unbelievable sound system, which is, you know, a couple hundred
thousand dollars, is the drumming. I think is Chris Robinson,
(27:27):
I think is his name. I can't remember exactly who that.
I should have looked it up before I was on here.
That the drumming on some of those songs is just
out of this world good. But anyway, we move on
to maybe something a little less of our taste, but
you know, it's always sad when people pass, especially when
it's too soon and the influential, but you know, to me,
not my jam limp Biscuit lost their bass player, Sam Rivers,
(27:52):
and he had been very ill and he died under
attended care they call it, so that means somebody was
there with him and he was expected to pass. Still
he was only forty eight years old, and that's sad.
They were influential and the you know metal rap of
the late nineteen nineties, which was a thing that was
quite hot for a while, and so they have their
(28:15):
I mean, I know who they are. Instantly. I was
sad that the man passed. I don't like their music,
but that that doesn't matter. They made many people happy.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
That was like the next thing after grunge. It was
the rock rap thing, and it was like the shows.
I went to corn Olympiscuit. There's other bands that I
went to the shows. I respected the crowds. They brought
what they did and it was there. They were not violent,
(28:47):
but the muspits were right, you know, they were violent,
but people respected each other. I could see from where
I was that if someone went down, they helped them up,
you know, right. But you went in there, you know,
going ahead that I might take an elbow in the nose,
so right, But yeah, it was, Yes, it was this
confluence of two genres. But if you watched you know,
(29:10):
you watch the What'stuck ninety nine, that was sort of.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
The beginning of the end because.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
It got out of hand, and I, right, I was,
I was tired of going to those shows, and I
stopped like, hey, did you cover the show? Like now
I've seen it three times and they're all the same. Sorry,
but exactly, those guys are good music. Those guys are
elite musicians.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Right, and they're touring.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
They're touring South America right now, and they are continue
actually continuing the tour. So they obviously have an international following.
And so did Kiss, and that he is after a fall.
Ace Frehley had long since not been in the band,
but he was their original guitarist. I didn't know this
until today when I was doing the research. Ace Frehley
(29:57):
designed the logo for Kiss, which I he sold the
original drawings, I guess a couple of years ago for
one hundred thousand dollars. He had his own career, and
in fact, you still hear maybe on sporting events. Sometimes
they played during the US Open tennis tournament, he did
a song called New York Groove back in the New
York Groove, which is kind of a catchy.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Cool tune.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
So he certainly can't overestimate the or overestimate the influence
of Kiss, and certainly can't underestimate the musical abilities.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But Ace Frehley was a good player.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Actually, he was.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Way more influential than I than I realized, just because
after he died, all the all the musicians he jumped
on and said he influenced me to pick up a guitar,
you know, I mean it was as gushing as Eddie
van Halen dying and so so this was obviously half
a generation before much.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
I didn't realize his influence and people who who do
who really? Who it?
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Kiss deteriorated into something, especially after he left and they
became a gimmick in But when they started, you can't
overestimate their influence. Where they came from out of nowhere,
what they represented, you know, the costumes, the makeup and
all that, and he was elemental to that.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You know, you.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Wouldn't have known it later because of Gene Simmons and
Paul Stanley or sort of the face of the band.
But yeah, and I think that probably led to some
of the dissension in the band. And he had a
lot of he had a lot of issues, but so
many people just said he was he was the face
of Kiss when they came out, and he was as
(31:39):
responsible as anyone for who they became and how they
took off.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, sometimes you're also surprised at how young people are
when they become famous. So when they die, I couldn't
believe he was only seventy four years old. That's what
I was taken back by. I was like, what, what
are you kidding?
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Yeah, but chronologically he was, but I think his body
he was in.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, he died after a fall, So I guess that
that says kind of enough about that. We always do
some anniversaries here, and this kind of leads into a
silly birthday for me, and that is we just passed
the forty eighth anniversary of the sex Pistols releasing. Never mind,
the Bollocks were the sex Pistols, and bollocks is one
(32:21):
of my favorite words.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I watch a lot of.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Soccer, and so I liked the word bollocks and the
sex Pistols were absolutely a tornado of influence for a
very short period of time and worth remembering.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Yeah, this record was it was the start of almost
everything and influence every great like tap rude punk band
that came out after it. Heard during it, I remember
when it came out and over here people went nuts.
It was at a time where you know, it was
(32:58):
it was a perfect soundtrack to what was going on
politically over in the UK and over here too, So yeah,
it was nuts. It was sloppy, it was messy. They
were sort of a contrived thing, you know with what
was his named, Malcolm McLaren and but man for that
record in the one after. They were short lived. They
(33:18):
were sort of destined to be just because they were.
They were so reckless, but they yes, they definitely the whole,
the whole seemed pivoted because of them.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well I predecessor and a different style of music, but
really some something that has real derivations in it is
uh is glam rock. And just a little quick story,
our dog, Willie R. Corgi is four years old, just
turned four years old. It was his birthday and Willy
in part is named after the song Little Willy it's not.
(33:53):
He isn't really, but his name was Willy when we
got him, but we have to give him a name officially.
And my wife has said, do you know any songs
that have Willy in them? I said, well, the only
one I can ever think of is Little Willy. And
I loved that song, Little Willy. It was one of
my favorite songs when I was in junior high school
and it was by The Sweet, who did a They
were huge in the UK, so we watched them Little
(34:16):
Willy videos and some Sweet videos. On the day of
his birthday, they did Fox on the Run. They did
actually had some more serious esoteric song later on. Their
last hit in America was Love Is Like Oxygen, which
sounds nothing like the rest of their music. And I
saw a song I'd never heard, which was a big
hit in England called Teenage Rampage. And when we were
(34:38):
watching these videos they started they started making hits around
nineteen sixty nine or seventy and I saw one video
of a song I didn't know and the singer starts singing,
I'm like, well, Queen certainly saw these guys play, you
know they so The Sweet had some influence.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah, they did. They were all over my high school soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Ballroom Ballroom Blitz is a fun party song for high school.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
When I was growing up, eighteen was a drinking age.
I remember being in bars and that song come on
and the place would just erupt. It was it was
the anthem. It was like Bohemian Rhapsody, but it was. Yes,
the place just stopped and everyone went not so.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Right, and there was a big there's a big chant
in it with a high pitched stream, and it's kind
of a fun It's a fun song.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
For sure, just like Great that were great, That were great? Yeah,
just like Little Will Yeah, that's like a perfect like pop.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Song, Yes, and got great power chords in it and
kind of clever little lyrics.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
They're they're pretty clever.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We watched we watched Top of the Pops from the
British show a lot, and it's a well done show
and there's all kinds of fun music on it. And
one last silly note, if you've been watching the baseball playoffs,
which I hope you have, I mean, they've been unbelievable. Yes,
I am tired today. I did stay up for all
eighteen innings of last night's game or the game the
(36:02):
other night as we're taping this on Tuesday. But eighteen
innings I made it to the finish barely. Freddy Freeman
hadn't hit a home run, I probably would have been
asleep pretty soon. But during the playoffs, the Google pixel
ten has been heavily advertised in the song Sugartown from
nineteen sixty six has re resonated in my head and
(36:23):
I can't get it out of there. And I don't mind,
because I like the song Sugartown, which is a sweet song,
and I'm sure if people are listening to it now
they go, what a sweet poppy song? And it is,
and it was written by Lee Hazelwood. It was a
very talented songwriter from that time. And it turns out
the song has two meanings. One is sort of a
sweet little love song and the other thing is when
you're going to Sugartown, you're taking a sugar tablet of LSD.
(36:47):
So there you go, bust your dreams of Sugartown.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
And Hazelwood doesn't remind you of anything or any songs.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Just look up his right. His does work with Nancy Sinatra.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Those albums are just pure gold and those voices together
because he's got this from the deep, from the empty cistern.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Voice, and she's got this sweet voice. That's great.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I just want to add something picking of sports and
music that came across my my feet today. Trey Anastasio
paying right attention or memorial to like Nick Mangle, the
Jets center who passed away, and it almost made me cry, like.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
And I just like wow.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
The lead guy from Fish was like they became friends
and he was a Jets fan, and it was like
in so much of an outpoint for this guy. But
when I saw Trey Anastasio's name, I like, that's that
reaches me. That touches me, because music and sports are
my things, you know, and when they come together, it's
it's it's a it's a it's a good feeling, even
(37:51):
when it's a little tragic.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
And it's a great way to pay tribute and tim
it's always a pleasure. That was a fun little journey there.
It always is. And we'll talk to you again and couple.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Of weeks sounds good next time.
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and also there's some interesting backstory type of things to
talk about including an alternate version of Good Vibrations.
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which ties into a New York Times article about set
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all things set lists and where I've gone through the
years when I wanted to know if you do want
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Speaker 2 (04:00):
Let's start it off with a favorite of both Tim's
and mine and David Letterman's and many many people, and
that is Warren Zevon. I told the story before that
I discovered Warren Zevon through the baseball writer Peter Gammons,
who used to put five selections at the end of
his baseball weekly Baseball Call him in the Boston Globe
way back in the day. And I discovered several artists
(04:23):
through that. He was kind of a music nerd in
addition to being a baseball nerd, and one of those
was Warren Zevon, who had a tribute portrayed with him
in Los Angeles. I guess it's turned into an annual thing,
and Warren Zevon is about to be inducted finally into
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and tim this
sort of has affected generations of songwriters. His son was there,
(04:45):
Jackson Brown, was kind of in charge of the thing
and sounds pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, there's some I guess they do this in Los
Angeles maybe annually, where they pick an artist who deserves
a tribute, and this year it was it was Warren Zevon,
which maybe have been by happenstance, because I don't think
they arrange this that quickly, but it happened right before
(05:13):
or not long before he gets inducted into the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame, which a lot of us
I think when we were frustrated with the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame was because why were people like
him getting the attention? And I think this affirms our
perception and sense that that place has changed, it's fixed,
and it's going back and fixing what was missing and
(05:36):
what was wrong, and the fact that he's getting it
it just confirms to me that I'm much more interested
in every or show, especially the presentations where there are
tributes musical tributes to the stars. This will be an
indication of that, because it wasn't just people that were
his contemporaries, like you know, the backup band included Rick
(05:56):
Moroda and Leland Sklar Jackson Brown, like you said, Jorge
and what was his last name, Yeah, anyway, one of his.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
Sidemen was was part of it.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
It was, but it's also other generations of songwriters like
Susan cow still sang a song right, members of Dream Syndicate,
those members of you know, bands from the eighties and
nineties who songwriters who were introduced to him and exposed
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to him and.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
His way of this very unique way of songwriting.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
He was trained classically, like Stravinsky was one of his
early instructors, because why it comes from a really artistic family,
and it was he made a turn in his career,
stopped doing pop songs and just like I'm gonna write
who I Am. And there's a really great description of
(06:55):
him in the Times about like who he became and
what his like whole thing was he started talking about
because he was troubled and he dealt with addiction and
he started dealing with things like you know, death and
(07:16):
macabre versions of life, like the song Excitable Boy. It's
this bouncy, jaunty pop song, you know, with backup vocals,
but he's writing about a guy who goes out on
a prom date with a girl, rapes her and kills
her and makes a cage of her bones. Like it's
like you're singing that, like wait, what I mean? It
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gets that dark? And you know, I thought Randy Newman
was dark, and then I listened to Warren Zevon and
it's like this is another whole place and he but
he could also be super sentimental and romantic. So his
his songwriting, you know, he had so many places to
draw from, and he was damaged, he got over his
(07:58):
addictions and then he died young.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
So but there are.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Records of his that didn't really capture me, but the
stuff that did. He's the outliers of outliers, like I
was introduced to people like Mirandy Numan and Leonard Cohen
and just some of the darker, more unique songwriters. But
he's the one I kind of claim as I found
on my own, without my brother's help or my sister's help,
(08:24):
or my cousin's help. And so he's always been a
favorite for that reason. I just saw that first record,
and I don't know, looks good, I'm buying it. I
saw who was on it because I read, you know,
the back of records and haven't stopped since.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
So like Dwight Yoakum was there.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
It's just if you read this article and see the
list of people who showed up to honor him, it
just confirms how great he was and how influential he was.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, let's just hope they made a video or a
concert tape of this or something and the CBS special
I don't care what they do, but it would be
nice to perhaps see that and see a set list
of that. In the time, also did a tribute to
the collection service set list FM.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Right, which you know you're familiar with, as you said,
and it became it became just a necessity for me
when I was reviewing shows and I needed to turn
them in very early the next day, and either I
had to check my set list against theirs, or you know,
sometimes fix it like or I missed the song. So
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and they're very rigid about contribute, like you have to
you have to apply to submit your set list and
then we'll check. And so I think it's probably ninety
five percent accurate, and if they're not sure, they'll say.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Song unknown, right, so right. But it's also just a
place to go to look.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
And like I said to you before, you just go
to set list FM and you just put in the
search Memorial Hall, Kansas City, Kansas and it goes back
to forever and like Janis Joplin and Frank Zappa in
places people came to town or Cowtown Ballroom. Like it's
just this reservoir of information of stuff that went on
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before you were born, why we're still alive and shows
you miss, you know, back playing at this little place
on on by the Star Building on Grand Avenue, you know,
in nineteen ninety five. It's you can get lost in
there for a while. But I would would, I would
contribute money I have. I don't use it because I
don't need to anymore, but man, it was a valuable
(10:32):
resource when I was writing about live music.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, I would always urge people to you know, when
they said, they pop up on your screen if you
use Like I contributed five bucks to Wikipedia the other day.
I mean, I use I use Wikipedia all the time.
I mean, you know, it's not right of me to
just ignore it.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
And you know, yeah, I throw them money too, why not?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And so anyway, a couple of great things there. And
you mentioned the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and
people getting their due after a long time, and that
happened to the Zombies in twenty nineteen, long after their
first hits many many years, about fifty years, and they
played there and I saw that. It led to my
wife and I traveling across the country to seeing them
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because their performance of their songs, their metally of three
songs about a ten minute thing was really fantastic. And
in twenty twenty three, one of the Coppola family, Robert Schwartzman,
he is part of the Coppola Cadre, and he did
a documentary of the Zombies in twenty twenty three which
(11:34):
is called hung Up on a Dream. I would highly
recommend it. Look it up. The every member except for
the original guitarist are still alive to tell stories and
things like that. It's also very timely because shortly after this,
Rod Argent finally said, you know, I'm taking my help,
my life in my hands from going up on stage.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I've had a couple of strokes. I'm going to hang
it up.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So this is really great sentimental it's a rock and
roll cautionary tale, which you've heard many times about bad management.
They were broken up by the time the Time of
the Season came out their album of Oracles and whatever
it was, it was misspelled. An Oracle has gone on
to be considered right up there with a couple of
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the Beatles albums as being influential, and they're very pleasant
and enjoyable people to listen to also, and Rod Argent.
One thing that was very interesting about him, Colin Blenstone
is the singer. He's a sweet guy and a great storyteller.
And Rod Argent you could tell he's kind of the
badass of the band and the leader and the one
who would kick ass and make sure that everything got
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done and he was fully willing to admit that too.
So it was really really cool, very it's almost two
hours long and it flies by.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
They really really use a lot of.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The music in it, and they sit at a soundboard
and listen to those type of things and I always
love that where the sound engineer is there.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Very very cool documentary.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Yeah, that record.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
I mean, they're known for their early you know, am hits,
which are great, they're timeless I love all of them,
but they're they're pivot to. Honestly, an Oracle Is is
just amazing. Like that record, it's only two different bands. Again,
they were influenced by things we'll talk about later, including
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the Beatles and Brian Wilson and just the whole production thing.
And it is this aria of It's just it's beautiful music.
It's like chamber pop, not garage, groove less, group driven.
It's it's like another band. But and I saw them
at south By. They did a they did a panel discussion.
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I saw them later. It was great. It was they
really put themselves into perspective. It was good to hear
them talk about that and what happened to them musically,
artistically and financially professionally. Bands like that, I mean, you
know there's so many bands like that. Think that comes
to mind right away. But yeah, it was bad for
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artists back then. They had so little control and they
were taken by so many bad people, and they're among that,
but they left behind so much great music.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
They did, indeed, and you mentioned it. So let's wrap
up the first segment with this. I listened to Deep Tracks,
which is a great station if you don't put it
on your presets on serious.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I think it's three thirty two now. I believe they
moved it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
It used to be right next to the seventies and
eighties channels. Anyway, they played deep tracks as you would imagine,
and I missed the complete introduction, but the host and
they also have good people who come on and tell
good stories about these records too. But it was an
alternate version. And I think you indicated when we talked
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oft the year that some of the collections that the
Beach Boys and Brian Wilson have done include many, many
recordings that never made records actually, and one of this
was an alternate track of Good Vibrations and one that
was supposed to be the re and Brian Wilson said, now,
we're not quite there yet, and he was right. It's
really good and it's really cool, and it's really different,
(15:09):
but it's not that much different. I mean, it would
have been a hit on its own, but he persisted
and he got perfection. This one isn't perfection, and you
just you got an idea of the complete genius and
the dedication just making sure you know, I'm going to
get what I want here, and he did and we're
all the better for it.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Well, right, I think that was in the pet Sounds
box set, and I think I know what you're talking about,
but that just revealed how he had such a narrow
specific sound in mind of something he wanted, and no
matter how close you got to it, if it wasn't
what he was hearing, he was hearing a lot in
his head, a lot of it made it out and
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we're the better for it. Just an absolute savant genius,
you know, on a spectrum that none of us, a
few of us have been on, but just artistically, when
you blindside the Beatles with your stuff or the zombies,
you're doing something far and above what has happened. But
he was consuming all that too, and you know, we
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know what a troubled life he lived, this boy who
was awful, but thankfully, you know, he's able to listen
to his in herself and.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
He gave us the best of that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
No question about that, and we definitely are the better
for it. And of course there have been two pretty
well done theatrical movies about him also, so lots to
consume from Brian Wilson, and lots to consume still with us,
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And sometimes you think to yourself, Wow, I'd like to
pull the trigger on this show or that show, and
I didn't do it. And the other day I was
at one of my favorite haunts, the Listening Room, doing
the Open Spin, and now they've changed their lineup a
little bit and they do Open Spin where you can
play any records you want from one to three thirty
and then they do a shortened version of They do
(20:16):
two hour programs that are heavily curated with a lot
of conversation and such, and then play an album. But
at four o'clock on Saturdays, they pretty much just do
a short introduction and then play an album. And the
album on Saturday which I didn't stay for I couldn't
stay for, was Ricky Lee Jones's second album, Pirates, and
she is playing with Patty Griffin tomorrow night at the
(20:38):
Uptown a show that I'm really pained that I'm not
going to to great artists. They're not really the same,
but it sounds like a great mix and if you
enjoyed one, and you could definitely enjoy the other, even
though they're not really similar artists.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, but there's so much overlap.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Among their fans it makes complete sentence because chances are
if you're into the music of either, you're going to be.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Into the music of the other, like I am.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Like I kind of stopped following Ricky Lee Jones a
little bit, but the first record, just self titled was
it actually came out about, you know, in the middle
of the whole punk explosion, which we'll get to.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
But she it was so unique, it was so different.
It was jazzy, it was pop.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
It was you know, it was like she was the
confluence of Tom Waite's and Laura Nero and which I
didn't understand at the time, but now I get. She's
just sort of beat Nick from LA and she had
a mentor somebody out there. I should have looked up
his name, but yeah, she's she's unique. And there's a
(21:52):
local angle, a guy like Dylan who's in a bunch
of bands who has been you're a bunch of bands
from Kansas City and he's from Texas down there, but
he was in her band. The last time I saw her,
or the only time I saw her which was in
June of twenty eighteen out at Grinders.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I don't know what this setup is like.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
I didn't explore because I know it couldn't go, but
it sounds like it might be just maybe an evening
with or.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
They'll it'll be Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I think it's an evening with right, which is fine,
you know, but Patty Griffin is an amazing songwriter. And
if you know, she has written like two or three
of the songs that the Dixie Chicks turned into mega hits,
so they have filled her coffers abundantly because of that.
From that, the home record alone has two or three
(22:38):
songs on it. So she's a great songwriter. I saw her,
seen her a couple of times. I know she has
survived the cancer scare, which is great. I was going
to see her in this singer songwriter circle with like
Steve Burrel and Emilu Harris and the Milk Carton Boys.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
If you don't know them, look I know I do.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
They're great.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
So she couldn't make it, so.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I don't remember how they filled out her because she
was because she was ill. But she's back in touring.
That's great. So both of them. This is like to me.
It's a double billing, it's a double co headliners. It
might not be to other people, but I think.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
It's two of the best songwriters, male or female of
my generation.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, the first album by Ricky Lee Jones had Chucky's
in Love and that's probably her best known song.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Vicky Weiss was the guy yeah right yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But the song that the curator played the other day
and somebody said, well, I can't stay for the Ricky
Lee Jones either, could you play a track? And so
it's a song that I think people know, but they
wouldn't know it by the title. It was Woody and
Dutch on the Slow Train to Peaking, which might give
you a good idea the offbeat nature of Ricky Lee Jones.
(23:52):
But on this album pirates the second album. Here are
some of the people who contributed to during the course
of this album, Donald Fagan, David Sanborn, Tom Scott, Chuck Rainey,
Steve gadd I mean all, Steve Lucather, almost all the
most famous session cats of that time and or great musicians,
(24:15):
which shows the respect that she has.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Well, you put out a debut like that and it
gets the response that did you. People are going to
sign up to play on the next one. I mean,
I say that just sort of leadingly like, but I
remember that that first record just attracted so much praise
and attention that and the second one is probably even better.
(24:40):
I just fell in love with the first one so
much that I probably didn't jump onto the second one
because it came out pretty soon afterwards, like records used
to do. She's she's an artist, she's a composer. She's
you know, not Patty Griffin's more of a traditional singer, songwriter, gifted.
I love her voice, her lyrically, she's supreme. But Ricky
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Jones is from another elements.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yes she is.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And speaking of the listening room, I've touted at many times,
and I don't try to tout it that much because
I like, sometimes I go to there and open to
spin Saturday, it's just me. The other day, I was
happy to know that there are about eight of us there,
and they also they had done sold out events all week,
so I was very happy for that place.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's a treasure.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And about a month ago I did stay for the
featured album, which was John Prine's first album, and that
was amazing. That was really amazing to hear and the
sound system is out of this world, which made me
very happy because now occasionally I'll go over to Discourse
Brewing and there's a man on Mondays who sells vinyl
out of boxes over there, and there's some real treasures there.
(25:47):
And I don't even have a turntable. So what I'll
do now is buy a record and then bring it
to the listening room so I can listen to it.
And this time, this time around, I brought The Cars
first album and it the speakers off.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I mean, I played the first two songs on the
second side, which are You're All I've Got Tonight and
Bye Bye Love, which is probably my favorite Car song.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But anyway, the drums.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
But there was a young man there who had come
and he'd brought some sort of really offbeat music, which
was really cool.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Actually, they and that my two songs.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You get to play two songs at a clip and
if there's several people there, and I played my two
songs and it stopped on the downbeat at the end
of Bye Bye Love, and this guy just goes wow.
I never listened to the Cars before in my life.
That was unbelievable. What a tight band. I can't believe
the production, and he's going on and on and on.
It was written, it was really fun.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
I don't know how you could listen to that band
and not just fall into him right away because that
first record, Yes, I mean I put their records up
against anybody, especially the first two. Everything that followed was
really good, but those first two were just absolute perfection.
Not a bad song. Every song could have been a
hit production. I heard they they were not good live,
(27:03):
which no.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I've heard they're terrible live, but that's I think they
sort of make sense, sort of just stand there and play,
and I think they were super perfectionists. They're probably like
I think Rick Ocasik was little Donald Fagan like, but
also the power that what really stood out in this
unbelievable sound system, which is, you know, a couple hundred
thousand dollars, is the drumming. I think is Chris Robinson,
(27:27):
I think is his name. I can't remember exactly who that.
I should have looked it up before I was on here.
That the drumming on some of those songs is just
out of this world good. But anyway, we move on
to maybe something a little less of our taste, but
you know, it's always sad when people pass, especially when
it's too soon and the influential, but you know, to me,
not my jam limp Biscuit lost their bass player, Sam Rivers,
(27:52):
and he had been very ill and he died under
attended care they call it, so that means somebody was
there with him and he was expected to pass. Still
he was only forty eight years old, and that's sad.
They were influential and the you know metal rap of
the late nineteen nineties, which was a thing that was
quite hot for a while, and so they have their
(28:15):
I mean, I know who they are. Instantly. I was
sad that the man passed. I don't like their music,
but that that doesn't matter. They made many people happy.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
That was like the next thing after grunge. It was
the rock rap thing, and it was like the shows.
I went to corn Olympiscuit. There's other bands that I
went to the shows. I respected the crowds. They brought
what they did and it was there. They were not violent,
(28:47):
but the muspits were right, you know, they were violent,
but people respected each other. I could see from where
I was that if someone went down, they helped them up,
you know, right. But you went in there, you know,
going ahead that I might take an elbow in the nose,
so right, But yeah, it was, Yes, it was this
confluence of two genres. But if you watched you know,
(29:10):
you watch the What'stuck ninety nine, that was sort of.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
The beginning of the end because.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
It got out of hand, and I, right, I was,
I was tired of going to those shows, and I
stopped like, hey, did you cover the show? Like now
I've seen it three times and they're all the same. Sorry,
but exactly, those guys are good music. Those guys are
elite musicians.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Right, and they're touring.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
They're touring South America right now, and they are continue
actually continuing the tour. So they obviously have an international following.
And so did Kiss, and that he is after a fall.
Ace Frehley had long since not been in the band,
but he was their original guitarist. I didn't know this
until today when I was doing the research. Ace Frehley
(29:57):
designed the logo for Kiss, which I he sold the
original drawings, I guess a couple of years ago for
one hundred thousand dollars. He had his own career, and
in fact, you still hear maybe on sporting events. Sometimes
they played during the US Open tennis tournament, he did
a song called New York Groove back in the New
York Groove, which is kind of a catchy.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Cool tune.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
So he certainly can't overestimate the or overestimate the influence
of Kiss, and certainly can't underestimate the musical abilities.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
But Ace Frehley was a good player.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Actually, he was.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Way more influential than I than I realized, just because
after he died, all the all the musicians he jumped
on and said he influenced me to pick up a guitar,
you know, I mean it was as gushing as Eddie
van Halen dying and so so this was obviously half
a generation before much.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
I didn't realize his influence and people who who do
who really? Who it?
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Kiss deteriorated into something, especially after he left and they
became a gimmick in But when they started, you can't
overestimate their influence. Where they came from out of nowhere,
what they represented, you know, the costumes, the makeup and
all that, and he was elemental to that.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You know, you.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Wouldn't have known it later because of Gene Simmons and
Paul Stanley or sort of the face of the band.
But yeah, and I think that probably led to some
of the dissension in the band. And he had a
lot of he had a lot of issues, but so
many people just said he was he was the face
of Kiss when they came out, and he was as
(31:39):
responsible as anyone for who they became and how they
took off.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, sometimes you're also surprised at how young people are
when they become famous. So when they die, I couldn't
believe he was only seventy four years old. That's what
I was taken back by. I was like, what, what
are you kidding?
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Yeah, but chronologically he was, but I think his body
he was in.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, he died after a fall, So I guess that
that says kind of enough about that. We always do
some anniversaries here, and this kind of leads into a
silly birthday for me, and that is we just passed
the forty eighth anniversary of the sex Pistols releasing. Never mind,
the Bollocks were the sex Pistols, and bollocks is one
(32:21):
of my favorite words.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I watch a lot of.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Soccer, and so I liked the word bollocks and the
sex Pistols were absolutely a tornado of influence for a
very short period of time and worth remembering.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Yeah, this record was it was the start of almost
everything and influence every great like tap rude punk band
that came out after it. Heard during it, I remember
when it came out and over here people went nuts.
It was at a time where you know, it was
(32:58):
it was a perfect soundtrack to what was going on
politically over in the UK and over here too, So yeah,
it was nuts. It was sloppy, it was messy. They
were sort of a contrived thing, you know with what
was his named, Malcolm McLaren and but man for that
record in the one after. They were short lived. They
(33:18):
were sort of destined to be just because they were.
They were so reckless, but they yes, they definitely the whole,
the whole seemed pivoted because of them.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well I predecessor and a different style of music, but
really some something that has real derivations in it is
uh is glam rock. And just a little quick story,
our dog, Willie R. Corgi is four years old, just
turned four years old. It was his birthday and Willy
in part is named after the song Little Willy it's not.
(33:53):
He isn't really, but his name was Willy when we
got him, but we have to give him a name officially.
And my wife has said, do you know any songs
that have Willy in them? I said, well, the only
one I can ever think of is Little Willy. And
I loved that song, Little Willy. It was one of
my favorite songs when I was in junior high school
and it was by The Sweet, who did a They
were huge in the UK, so we watched them Little
(34:16):
Willy videos and some Sweet videos. On the day of
his birthday, they did Fox on the Run. They did
actually had some more serious esoteric song later on. Their
last hit in America was Love Is Like Oxygen, which
sounds nothing like the rest of their music. And I
saw a song I'd never heard, which was a big
hit in England called Teenage Rampage. And when we were
(34:38):
watching these videos they started they started making hits around
nineteen sixty nine or seventy and I saw one video
of a song I didn't know and the singer starts singing,
I'm like, well, Queen certainly saw these guys play, you
know they so The Sweet had some influence.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah, they did. They were all over my high school soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Ballroom Ballroom Blitz is a fun party song for high school.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
When I was growing up, eighteen was a drinking age.
I remember being in bars and that song come on
and the place would just erupt. It was it was
the anthem. It was like Bohemian Rhapsody, but it was. Yes,
the place just stopped and everyone went not so.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Right, and there was a big there's a big chant
in it with a high pitched stream, and it's kind
of a fun It's a fun song.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
For sure, just like Great that were great, That were great? Yeah,
just like Little Will Yeah, that's like a perfect like pop.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Song, Yes, and got great power chords in it and
kind of clever little lyrics.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
They're they're pretty clever.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
We watched we watched Top of the Pops from the
British show a lot, and it's a well done show
and there's all kinds of fun music on it. And
one last silly note, if you've been watching the baseball playoffs,
which I hope you have, I mean, they've been unbelievable. Yes,
I am tired today. I did stay up for all
eighteen innings of last night's game or the game the
(36:02):
other night as we're taping this on Tuesday. But eighteen
innings I made it to the finish barely. Freddy Freeman
hadn't hit a home run, I probably would have been
asleep pretty soon. But during the playoffs, the Google pixel
ten has been heavily advertised in the song Sugartown from
nineteen sixty six has re resonated in my head and
(36:23):
I can't get it out of there. And I don't mind,
because I like the song Sugartown, which is a sweet song,
and I'm sure if people are listening to it now
they go, what a sweet poppy song? And it is,
and it was written by Lee Hazelwood. It was a
very talented songwriter from that time. And it turns out
the song has two meanings. One is sort of a
sweet little love song and the other thing is when
you're going to Sugartown, you're taking a sugar tablet of LSD.
(36:47):
So there you go, bust your dreams of Sugartown.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
And Hazelwood doesn't remind you of anything or any songs.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Just look up his right. His does work with Nancy Sinatra.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
Those albums are just pure gold and those voices together
because he's got this from the deep, from the empty cistern.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
Voice, and she's got this sweet voice. That's great.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I just want to add something picking of sports and
music that came across my my feet today. Trey Anastasio
paying right attention or memorial to like Nick Mangle, the
Jets center who passed away, and it almost made me cry, like.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
And I just like wow.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
The lead guy from Fish was like they became friends
and he was a Jets fan, and it was like
in so much of an outpoint for this guy. But
when I saw Trey Anastasio's name, I like, that's that
reaches me. That touches me, because music and sports are
my things, you know, and when they come together, it's
it's it's a it's a it's a good feeling, even
(37:51):
when it's a little tragic.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
And it's a great way to pay tribute and tim
it's always a pleasure. That was a fun little journey there.
It always is. And we'll talk to you again and couple.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Of weeks sounds good next time.
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