November 26, 2025 • 42 mins
Decades of divergent music excellence to dive into in another ecelectic and entertaining edition. In focus this time around The Beths, Billie Eilish, Squeeze, Jimmy Cliff, Joe Jackson, Bjork,Ben Kweller, Ricky Nelson and more. Always a blast!
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and Arrowhead Stadium next year. I'm actually going to be
in Europe for part of that, which is kind of weird.
Kim went to a couple of concerts we'll talk about
which would be interesting and iconic reggae and just playing
music figure Jimmy Cliff passed away Billy Eilish fans who
can't get enough and or don't want to pay the
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full freight for a concert, or just want more of
the experience. Her concert film will come out in twenty
six of her latest tour, and I always enjoy including
Billy Eilish and any bit of music that we do.
Squeeze has passed their fiftieth anniversary, just passed it, and
they will be putting out an album. I don't know
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if it's in tribute to that, but they'll put out
an album next spring. There's a single already out and
it's reviewed in the Guardian, and it was an album
they wrote just before they became famous and they decided
it was a little too over the head of music
people at the time. They said they dumbed down their
sound and they were successful returning to it and it
got a great review in the Guardian, which also has
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an interesting article about the alternative music scene exploding in Ireland.
And how many many acts are really getting a lot
of traction around the globe, and how they are much
more willing now to talk about the troubles and things
like that. Left a couple things on the cutting room
floor last time. One of those is the weaving road
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of Alex Chilton from the Box Tops to Big Star
and on. He passed away about fifteen years ago. And
to talk about a very interesting circular story that involves
Ricky Nelson, who of course tragically died on a.
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Welcome back, and before we talk music for the rest
of this always enjoyable journey. Jim, you went back to
Arrowhead for the first time in a couple of decades.
Andy Reid now undefeated in your two visits because he
was the Eagles coach the last time you were there
and the Eagles beat the Chiefs. He hadn't been in
a while, and you're probably not going to go in
a while, I guess. But it was fun, but it's
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a day long excursion. Just tell us a little bit
about it.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Well, I've been to Arrowhead many times, including last summer
for Taylor Swift Show, but this is my first Chiefs
game and since October of two thousand and five, which
was that Eagles game.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
Andy Reid was coaching the Eagles.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
Yes, I remember, we were sitting right in front of
Gumph Cunningham's son. I think Gumther was the defensive coordinator again,
and that was that was a circus because the Chiefs
defense kind of quit on them anyway, So it had
been a while, and I've just found the experience to
me was not worth the time because I'm not a
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born blood Chiefs fan. I converted a bit because my
daughter's adored the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, and right now
they're just a team that's I cannot dislike. I like
everything about them, So yeah, I pushed for them and
I followed them because the team that I followed sucks
really bad, the Raiders, So this is a nice, you know,
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a nice distraction. So yeah, it was great my first
time seeing Patrick Mahomes. It was a lot of drama,
a lot of consternation. Like you asked me before, I said,
I never thought they were out of it because looking
at the stats, if you didn't looked at stats and
didn't know the score, you would have the Chiefs were
winning that game by fourteen points, which thing might have
been if things hadn't broken a couple of ways.
Speaker 9 (07:26):
So yeah, it was. It was. The comeback was great.
It was obviously an overtime game.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
The crowd. I finally felt the of the might of
the noise and arrowhead.
Speaker 9 (07:37):
It was. It was deafening.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
It wasn't moments that I'd been in an Alan Fieldhouse,
but this was outdoors, so you know, it's a little bit,
but yeah, you could tell it was disrupting the Colts
and their offensive line and their quarterback. I think it
affected why they didn't go for it and fourth a
couple of times. So yeah, I got the full experience
and the overtime win. It was people were happy leaving.
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That's that's what you want.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That's true. You definitely want them happy.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And I'm sure you were happy as seeing The Bets
last Friday night. One of a couple of concerts you've
been able to take in over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
So, my wife has kind of been the the the
show director. She picks the show she wants to go
to and then our tastes overlapped, you know, a lot.
So I'm usually up for it. And she found out
about The Bets, I don't know, about a year ago.
They're from New Zealand and led by a woman named
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Elizabeth I forget her last name right off the top
of my head. Really good voice. Their music is hoppy,
but it's diverse. It's they get pretty rowdy, pretty loud,
but they can also have ballads, you know, it's it's
a nice many changes of pace and some three or
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two and three part harmonies, you know, all the things
that that we love. And one thing that struck me,
and this was the same for the other show we're
going to talk about, was the place was full. It
was at the Truman, so it probably there were probably
eleven hundred people there. We were up in the They
have these vip seats the falcony, which is great because
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you have your own you have your own bar and
restaurant and you're not, you know, cheek by jowl to
every other person, which the floor was. So that was
nice that the balcony was maybe a third full, but
the floor.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
Was just front to back.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
Was was full for a band that I don't know
much about. But what else struck me was I was
telling my wife, who didn't agree with my ratio, but
I said, it looks like it's like three to one
men to women here and a lot of these guys
are forty year older, you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Know, and it's not like this band just k came
out in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Night and now it was it was like.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
I wasn't e that I was expecting a crowd to
be and more fifty to fifty. It might have been
closer to sixty forty, but I definitely my sense was
there were more or more men than women. Are you know,
just an observation, but yeah, their music's really it's really
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it's energetic, it's inventive, creative, that's it's not cliche. There
are unexpected things that go on in the songs, so
they're really working had on crafting a song, and I like,
there's there's stuff that I've heard on Spotify. But you know,
I wondered, am I going to like ninety minutes of this?
Speaker 9 (10:41):
And I did. There's just enough diversity that it was
entertaining the whole night.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, you mentioned before we go on to your other show,
my wife and I went to a jazz show a
couple of weeks ago Brian culberts In, which turned out
to be more like seeing I don't know, earth wind and.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Fire or something.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He's a smooth jazz pianist when you hear him, hears
him on the radio, but it was it turned out
to be like seeing, like I said, earth Winded Fire
as a twelve fees band horn section, et cetera. But
the thing that I related to from your thing is
that we get there and this guy's a white guy
in his early fifties with spiked blonde hair and kind
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of funky looking guy, you know, looks like a jazz guy,
kind of but a little offbeat. So we're walking into
the the uptown and the places will end up being packed,
and it's like, hey, we're you know one, you know,
we're in the minority here. This is like the eighty
percent of the people are African American and this is cool.
And they were like in their fifties and dressed to
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the nines and it was just really cool. But it
was completely unexpected because all I knew about him was
that I saw this spiky blonde guy who played smooth
jazz piano, and here it is. It was just fabulous, actually,
and it was kind of a unique experience.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Yeah, I've been to several shows like that, some of
them expected, but some not.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
That's some it all.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
It all just affirms how how music affects everyone in
certain ways.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
And it's always good to be.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
In that environment with anybody who's who's enjoying something as.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Much as you are, right And I just like every
now and then to get a little taste of being
in a minority position.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Everybody should everybody should do that because and then people would.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And I said to one guy, like, you know, I'm
not used to being out dressed at a concert. You know,
this is a people are putting me to shame here.
So anyway, it was fun. It was fun. So how
about your other show?
Speaker 8 (12:34):
That was this guy named Ben Queller? And I don't know,
some people might remember this moment back in the back
in the mid nineties, post post Nirvana posts, their their
rise and then the death of Kirk Cobaine and how
much they affected music. There was a rush to find
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the next Nirvana. And there was this band called silver
Chair out of Australia, I think, and then we're like Nirvana,
but they're teenagers. And you know, it was record labels
just framing everyone some way with Nirvana and this band
called Radish who were sort of out of Texas. Ben
Queller was the leader of the band. He's from Greenville, Texas,
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but you know, he's from San Francisco. But the band,
they concocted the story around them and about them, and.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
They got a gush of media height.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
I think that I'm pretty sure the New Yorker ran
I read the story and Yorker read this story about
them that just kind of oversold them.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
Anyway. They never they just sort of died on the mine.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
They never met these you know, the hybrid, the expectations,
and so they went their separate ways and ben Queller
started his own look career and he's been doing that
for a while. Then he again, my wife is a
big fan of his. There's like all the Bends, there's
Ben Folds, there's Ben Lee, and then there's Ben Kweller,
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and there was two of.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
Them got together for the Bend anyway, but.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
He's a he's another pop songwriter, but he's his stuff
gets kind of thrashy because Phil Radish was kind of
that way, and that's just a really inventive songwriter, sort of.
Speaker 9 (14:17):
Indie rock, pop ballads. You know, Anthems the whole deal.
And his.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Years ago, not even almost three years ago, his sixteen
year old son was killed in a car crash and
has crushed him and you know, he talks about.
Speaker 9 (14:36):
It on stage.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Obviously, he gets emotional, and that was you know, a
couple of times, a couple of times in the show,
he he got weepy, he was he did a song
that he and his son had worked together on, and
he did a song about his son called Dorian, which
you know, he was broken up during that, as was
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my because she her son is named Dorian, so there
were emotional moments.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
He talks a lot, he's funny.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
That would have been my complaint is he he's a
little too gabby.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
But his music is good. His band is really good.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
Lots again, lots of harmonies, and I, yeah, I recommend
him if you like that kind of We have talked
about this bands like kind of like the pit se
season not really in that thing, but they can get
loud and aggressive, but they're always melodic and there's a groove.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
So he's in that thing.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
And the first time it was the second time i'd
seen him, the first time with his band, and yeah,
check out his music. And he's a good songwriter and
really sensitive lyricists.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
So it was a good show. Was that the garage
and knuckleheads. It was seated.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
We ended up sitting in what looked like theater seats,
or we pretended we were in an airplane because they
were like, I don't know if you know the seats
I'm talking about. They're off to the side, right, it's
a it's a little weird, but Frank knows what he's doing.
We probably bought all those in bulk, but pretty much
the place was full. So it was a good night.
Speaker 9 (16:09):
It was a Sunday night, and yeah, it was a
good time.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Somebody made people very happy through the years, and this
an iconic figure in music as Jimmy Cliff. He passed
away at eighty one, and it engendered many many tributes
from somebody who ventured or wove over into the pop
scene a little bit. I can see clearly it was
a song he did. Of course many people have done it,
but he's quite a figure in music.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
Well he was.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
He kind of preceded everyone in the reggae world and
paved the way for a lot of the great stars
and including Bob Marley, and he was you know, he
was adamant about not just doing reggae and expanding his
his palette, which he did.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
And yeah, he was in a movie. What was the
name of that movie that was really famous.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Harder They Come, I think it was called. And it
kind of made him a global multimedia star. So he
was you know, this was in the seventies, so it
wasn't not that usual for guys to be in movies
as much as they are now.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
But just a I guess he's just he to me,
he's at the foundation of all that.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
When I started listening to reggae or checking out reggae,
he was the first, one of the first I went to.
He made me appreciate some of the other guys like
Toots in the Metals and you know, the harder, more
pioneering guys that where the music came from. That that
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really started everything, including SKA, and so he not only
brought reggae into the into the mainstream, he also led
people like me to go back and see who was
there before him. He's as big as he gets as
they get in this genre and is influential. And also,
like I said, he explored a lot of genres of music.
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He didn't become what he didn't want to become, which
was just kind of a one trick reggae pony, because
he explored even hip hop. You know, he got into
that which we know as the fusion of reggae and
hip hop is still going on. So he was there
for a lot of that. He's very important, very important.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well, somebody who sort of carves their own niche as
well as Byork who just had a sixtieth birthday around
does what she wants to do, and a true artist,
as it were, our artiste and always an interesting person.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
So I think like most of us were introduced to
her through the her band.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
God it just that they just escaped me. But she she.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Is, like I said to you, a lot of a
lot of songwriters refer to themselves as artists, which is fair.
I guess a song can be art. I don't think
a lot of songs are. I think they're they're crafty,
but I think they we fall into them easily because
we've heard something like it before. It is familiar. But her,
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her music is art.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
It makes you think, It makes you pay attention, it
makes you.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Learn how to adjust to her. Just everything about her.
She doesn't she doesn't paint by numbers in the slightest
and she doesn't want to repeat herself, and she wants
to be unique, and she is as unique as.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
I think anyone in music. But she's also What I
like about.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Her music is it's it's not it's not too much,
it's not. I mean, there's some like Laurie Anderson, who's
a genius. But it's a lot of that stuff is
beyond my realm of right of following, you know, because
it's it's it's a way out there. I think New
York is always her music is always accessible in some way,
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but it's unlike any other artists, and I know, not
just women, but a lot of a lot of songwriters
who were trying to do something special and beyond the normal.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
Look to her, and she's not.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
She wouldn't be easy to mimic, but you can like
infer from her what she's doing and how she's applying
her artistic you know, vibe to the music she creates.
She's just very special and beloved. And she's only sixty, right.
I wouldn't have said that twenty years ago, but she's
only sixty.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And that means she should have some runway left. But
maybe maybe do a reunion with the Sugar Cubes.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Was the Native Cubes?
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Yes, that's yeah, that's thanks for reminding me of them,
Drew a Blank. That's who I think I was saying
before went on that I had a chance to see her.
That's Sue was opening for you too. I think it
was back in ninety two or some tour. They were
on the YouTube tour that came to Arrowhead, but she left.
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I think she left right before that. Yeah, so weally
got somebody else. But anyway, that was my one chance
to see her. And they're another band that's worth exploring
because they were sort of ahead of their time what
they were doing, right.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
That's the Sugar Cubes.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
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They've just experimented with a few things, and I still
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to working with you. Welcome back. And Squeeze was a
band and really kind of a duo, as several of
those type of bands actually.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Were in many ways.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They have been together for over fifty years now and
they are putting out a new album. A single came
out and it was reviewed in The Guardian, which I
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great resource for finding out about music old and new
and artists old and new. And this is kind of
a combination of the two because they wrote the album
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that we are talking about here. I think it's called Lizzie.
I believe I'll find it here in a second, but
back in nineteen seventy four, and then they scrapped it
as they went on to stuff that was a little
more accessible perhaps, And so this album has gotten a
tremendous review in the in the Guardian, and so it
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will be out, actually, the album itself will be out
in March, and I'm obviously String Trixies is the name
of the album. So anyway, I always liked their sound.
It's Tillbrook and Chris Difford are the two guys who
are mostly the creative side of that particular band. They're
still together and they're making good music. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
I love their music.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I discovered them in college when they just shortly after
they had come out, and it is this perfect usion
of it's got like a sense to new way when
it's also more steep than just British pop in the Beatles,
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and their songs are compositions. They do a lot of
nippy things. They're energetic. Songs are super energetic. Their ballads
are great. The song Tempted you know it is one
of their most famous songs by Paul Carrick, who also
sang you know how long great vocals but Andie gets
(27:29):
your Gun. I can list just a ton of songs
that they do that are just so invigorating, and they
come and go in like three minutes plus or minus
ten seconds.
Speaker 9 (27:37):
They're just in and out, boom boom. They're so.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
I think their sound is the pop sound is so rich.
And my wife loves pop music, but sometimes she's like, okay,
I'm not with a sugar high or something too much
to digest here, which is like, yeah, I love it. Well,
so yeah, I'm excited because I didn't know anything about
any of this.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, this should be very cool. And I hear I am.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'm looking at a picture of Squeeze right now, and
guess who their keyboard player was? Who I soon played
that wonderful. Uh like Oregon solo and tempted Jewles Holland. Yeah,
I did not know that, so.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's cool, that's fun. I'm a Jewels Holland fan, that's
for sure. So this actually is there cool for cats
up the Junction, really cool songs that they made, and
a big part of this particularly yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:37):
If they got really like flat coffee in bed, get
into soul music, yeah, Bridge soul whatever. Yeah, a wide palette, very.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Very good stuff and interesting tale And I just found
out Jules Holland was in Squeeze, so that makes me happy.
And I like running around doing this stuff for this podcast.
A lot of times I end up discovering things that
are weird or different than one I was going to
do last time. Which isn't that weird or different, but
has a connection to me. Is Alex Chilton, who was
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the original band was the Box Tops, and they recorded
their first big hit and it was a huge hit,
was The Letter. And the Letter is personal to me
because when I was a DJ back in the day,
I worked all day long and I had to do
a variety of different things and being a DJ was
just one of them. And I was writing the News
while I was doing my DJ shift, and one day
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my general manager program director calls me in and he says,
you're playing The Letter by the Box Tops at the
top of the hour way too much, and what would
happen is that I would just get distracted or whatever,
and then we had to hit the News at the
top of the hour. Is a hard hit to go
to CBS News. And the Letter is the shortest hit
(29:50):
song in the history of music. It's one minute and
forty nine seconds long. And so I'd be scrambling around
and I go, oh my god, I got to play
the Letter. So that's my connection to the Letter. But
the Box Stops had several great hits cry Like a Baby,
Sweet Cream, Ladies, Forward, March, sol Deep. A lot of
these were written by the group of Penn Ran Spooner Oldham,
(30:11):
really famous ann Wayne Carson who wrote a lot of
their songs. They're famous songwriters. Anyway, he went on to
become the lead man and lead singer for Big Star,
which I've really just heard so much about. I had
a friend who was college who was a huge Big
Star fan. Everybody said Big Star with their Big Stars,
they're going to be the biggest stars and they never were.
(30:32):
It's really a very interesting musical tale. But I heard
the letter recently and that's how I stumbled upon this.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I did not know that was Alex Chilton. I know.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's a very well sung song with great sort of
white soul tinge to it.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
It's just a cool tale to me.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Yeah, it's hard to come up with anyone whose career
pivoted like his dead after he left.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
I guess he just wasn't supery with.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Damn pop radio start him, so he he followed, you know,
his instincts, and they were like the epitome of a
cult band.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Like.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
The replacements of a song called Alex Shelton. Ari Em mentions.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Them and they one of those bands that never really
was rewarded as much as they should be for their
for their art and their influence, because I would call
them music art and.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yeah, he like Badfinger.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
It comes to mind, and just just like knowing you're
putting out stuff that you know your critics love their
subjectively is superior to a lot of stuff that's on
the radio and not getting any traction.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
A lot of it has to do with record labels and.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
You know, just the business of music and radio stations
not playing it, blah blah blah.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
So they were frustrated and they just sort of, you know,
eeked out.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
He did some solo stuff, but you go back, there's
the documentary out on them. Their great song, September Girls
is like one of their biggest or most favorite songs.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
I don't know that, you know, but you go back
and listen to him.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
One of their famous recordings is Live in Columbia, Missouri,
back in like the nineties or something.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Right, So that's a local angle, I guess.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
But I thought I was going to see them in
twenty ten in March. He was going to be a
south By Southwest. He was going to be part of
a panel. They were going to do a couple of showcases.
And he died that.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
Night before he was supposed to.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Right, So the night before south By, like everyone that
was just everyone's phone was like, oh sorry. So they
did a lot of it's more than tributes to him,
but that was that was that was blindsiding.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
It was I mean, I don't it's like.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
This kind of what kind of epitomizes his career? He
couldn't get. But Tommy was never right, you know, and
he was brilliant. He was was humble and modest, but
he was also pretty tamacious about what he wanted to
do and how he wanted to do it, and he
didn't want to play games with anybody. You got to
(33:22):
admire someone like that because he had options.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah. There, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
That sort of ties into the story of Ricky Nelson,
who was a huge star, and of course he was
on Nausey and Harriet, and that's how he became famous.
And his parents were and band His father was a
band leader, his mother was a band singer, and he
became a pop star, probably because of the TV show.
And even though the songs he sang and he ended
(33:49):
up being a good songwriter too, were written by other people,
but he really was a great singer, and he had
a natural natural good looks and everything. And they kept
those good looks until he died in a plane crash
in nineteen eighty five on New Year's Eve. But he
kind of just ditched that whole thing and created his
(34:10):
own band in his own way and went into country music.
And I just have heard him quite a bit recently,
just by happenstance, because his music is all over serious.
They play him on the Baker's Field Beat, they play
him on deep tracks, they play but I heard his
first hit song, Poor Little Fool, and which is really
(34:31):
a catchy song, except that has those Elvis style backup
singers that I can't stand. And ever, I don't know
what they're called, the Jordanaires. I think it's one version
of them. Can't stand that stuff. But anyway, poor Little
Fool is a great song, and he's a great singer.
And before I go on with my little tail, you
have a little nugget of Ricky Nelson that you like.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Yeah, I came across this who knows how right what
time of the morning it was that I ran into it,
But I don't think I was watching the movie. But
this is from the movie Rio Bravo, And this song
is called My Rifle, My Pony and Me.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
You know, I think he wrote it.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
But he is with Dean Martin who's lying on this
whatever couch kind of with his hands at the back
of his head and Ricky Martin, Ricky Nelson is strumming guitar,
and he has the most impressive hair pompadoora I've ever
(35:29):
seen like. I don't think I would put it up
against anyone's there. Elvis is included like he is handsome
to the twelfth degree, got a great voice, and so
he and Dean Martin singing this song my Rifle my
Pony in Me is very short. They're in this bunk house.
John Wayne's in.
Speaker 9 (35:49):
The background kind of nodding along, and.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Walter Brennan's in there interjecting stuff. It's so delightful and
they harmonize and go back and forth. It's just like
two minutes of absolute pop sort of country is bliss.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
It's just so perfect.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
As we said off the air, it reminds you of
what a really great singer Dean Martin is.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I mean, just an underrated performer.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
It's a great documentary about Dean Martin out last year
if you want to see it at just a totally
underrated performer and somebody who really wasn't anything like his
public persona portrayed him as. But anyway, yeah, very good actor, definitely.
But the little tale I will weave just before we
(36:34):
go is this actually just because I was seeing that
and I said, well, I think I'll look up Ricky
Nelson and see, you know, I know a lot about him,
and I know about garden Party and.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
But Poor Little Fool was written by a woman named
Sharon Seely, and she wrote quite a few hit songs,
a lot of hit songs for Glenn Campbell, Ricky Nelson,
Brenda Lee, Eddie Cochran. And she was about to marry
Eddie Cochran nineteen sixty and she went to the United
Kingdom to join Cochrane and Jeane Vincent and they were
(37:06):
touring there and then they were about to head back
to America and they took a cab to Heathrow and
I don't know what happened, but the private higher taxi
slammed into a lamppost, killing Eddie. Cochran eventually died the
next day. Vincent had severe leg injuries which affected his career.
She was okay, And you know, Eddie Cochran's a lost treat.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I mean, Cochran was. He was only twenty one years old.
He was great. I mean that was That's.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
A real loss there, what buddy, Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But she was okay.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
She returned to the US and then she married la
radio personality Jimmy O'Neil, and they created the ABC TV
series Shindig, which was a huge sensation and a really
well done show. And we watched episodes of Shindig fairly
often all the musical appearances are done live and it's
(38:02):
it's really cool. So a really weaving rock and roll
story featuring Sharon Sweeney and Shannon Sheeley and Ricky Nelson
who died tragically in a plane crash after his career
weaved and he had our comeback with Garden Party, which
was a song about how he didn't want to sing
all these songs and just kind of a cool rock
(38:25):
and roll tale with a lot of tragedy in it.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Yeah, it's a reminder of one how people there are
that created or behind or produce really significant moments, whether
it's music or TV shows that.
Speaker 9 (38:44):
No one really knows about. And you know, we have.
Speaker 8 (38:48):
Access to that information because you know, of the of
the internet now, stuff like that will come out. But
and it's also just like, yeah, how many different when
music had been as some of those right people had
lived to be at least under their forties or fitting right.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
So I put Buddy Holly at the top of the list. Right.
Speaker 8 (39:10):
We had a discussion about well, now, Kurt Cobaine, I'm
la sorry, no no sit down, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (39:18):
But especially back then in any conference.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
One of those for sure, he is for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And finally, to wrap things up, I don't know how
credible this is. My wife actually the other day sent
me a thing about ameprazol, which I take, and she
was sent some convoluted article about how it wasn't good
for you, and she sent it to me on the
phone and I looked it up and I was like,
and I ended up texting her back and saying, dear,
this This article was written by a woman named Linda Wellness.
(39:45):
I don't think it's really credible record a credible article,
but anyway, Live Nation has supposedly conducted a survey which
they say is accurate, and that seven out of ten
people say they would choose a concert over sex. Now
this is absurd, of course, I don't know unless you
really have terrible sex. But I guess if you know
(40:08):
you just had a one off concert that you had
only one chance to go to, you have a significant other,
you definitely could have sex another day.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't know how I would vote in that. I
don't know how the question was framed, but it just
gave me a chuckle.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
Well, the the variable that I've discussed is you got
to pay to go see a concert, right, all things
aren't equal, But I mean, yeah, exactly what depend.
Speaker 9 (40:38):
On the show? Yes?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
And why do you have to make the choice? You
know you could do both?
Speaker 8 (40:45):
I think because yeah, and I think my if it
came to that, my wife are probably like, yeah, know,
we'll go to the show because I'm up Saturday.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
We'll take care of that later.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yes, we'll have a quote unquote date another time.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
All right, Well we'll see what I mean.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
You know, I guess when you gotta sell tickets, you'll.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Say anything you will.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Indeed, always enjoyable, Tim, you have yourself a grant Thanksgiving.
Glad you enjoyed the game at Arrowhead and that it
taught you a lesson that the TV and the couch
might be a better spot for chiefs viewing.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
So all the time, all the time, and.
Speaker 9 (41:21):
I'm glad it was there. Yeah, my buddy, my good
buddy Ranks.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, we'll talk to you again in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 9 (41:28):
Good thanks, Danny.
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Welcome back, and before we talk music for the rest
of this always enjoyable journey. Jim, you went back to
Arrowhead for the first time in a couple of decades.
Andy Reid now undefeated in your two visits because he
was the Eagles coach the last time you were there
and the Eagles beat the Chiefs. He hadn't been in
a while, and you're probably not going to go in
a while, I guess. But it was fun, but it's
(06:02):
a day long excursion. Just tell us a little bit
about it.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Well, I've been to Arrowhead many times, including last summer
for Taylor Swift Show, but this is my first Chiefs
game and since October of two thousand and five, which
was that Eagles game.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
Andy Reid was coaching the Eagles.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
Yes, I remember, we were sitting right in front of
Gumph Cunningham's son. I think Gumther was the defensive coordinator again,
and that was that was a circus because the Chiefs
defense kind of quit on them anyway, So it had
been a while, and I've just found the experience to
me was not worth the time because I'm not a
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born blood Chiefs fan. I converted a bit because my
daughter's adored the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, and right now
they're just a team that's I cannot dislike. I like
everything about them, So yeah, I pushed for them and
I followed them because the team that I followed sucks
really bad, the Raiders, So this is a nice, you know,
(07:03):
a nice distraction. So yeah, it was great my first
time seeing Patrick Mahomes. It was a lot of drama,
a lot of consternation. Like you asked me before, I said,
I never thought they were out of it because looking
at the stats, if you didn't looked at stats and
didn't know the score, you would have the Chiefs were
winning that game by fourteen points, which thing might have
been if things hadn't broken a couple of ways.
Speaker 9 (07:26):
So yeah, it was. It was. The comeback was great.
It was obviously an overtime game.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
The crowd. I finally felt the of the might of
the noise and arrowhead.
Speaker 9 (07:37):
It was. It was deafening.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
It wasn't moments that I'd been in an Alan Fieldhouse,
but this was outdoors, so you know, it's a little bit,
but yeah, you could tell it was disrupting the Colts
and their offensive line and their quarterback. I think it
affected why they didn't go for it and fourth a
couple of times. So yeah, I got the full experience
and the overtime win. It was people were happy leaving.
(08:00):
That's that's what you want.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That's true. You definitely want them happy.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And I'm sure you were happy as seeing The Bets
last Friday night. One of a couple of concerts you've
been able to take in over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
So, my wife has kind of been the the the
show director. She picks the show she wants to go
to and then our tastes overlapped, you know, a lot.
So I'm usually up for it. And she found out
about The Bets, I don't know, about a year ago.
They're from New Zealand and led by a woman named
(08:36):
Elizabeth I forget her last name right off the top
of my head. Really good voice. Their music is hoppy,
but it's diverse. It's they get pretty rowdy, pretty loud,
but they can also have ballads, you know, it's it's
a nice many changes of pace and some three or
(08:58):
two and three part harmonies, you know, all the things
that that we love. And one thing that struck me,
and this was the same for the other show we're
going to talk about, was the place was full. It
was at the Truman, so it probably there were probably
eleven hundred people there. We were up in the They
have these vip seats the falcony, which is great because
(09:18):
you have your own you have your own bar and
restaurant and you're not, you know, cheek by jowl to
every other person, which the floor was. So that was
nice that the balcony was maybe a third full, but
the floor.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
Was just front to back.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
Was was full for a band that I don't know
much about. But what else struck me was I was
telling my wife, who didn't agree with my ratio, but
I said, it looks like it's like three to one
men to women here and a lot of these guys
are forty year older, you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Know, and it's not like this band just k came
out in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Night and now it was it was like.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
I wasn't e that I was expecting a crowd to
be and more fifty to fifty. It might have been
closer to sixty forty, but I definitely my sense was
there were more or more men than women. Are you know,
just an observation, but yeah, their music's really it's really
(10:20):
it's energetic, it's inventive, creative, that's it's not cliche. There
are unexpected things that go on in the songs, so
they're really working had on crafting a song, and I like,
there's there's stuff that I've heard on Spotify. But you know,
I wondered, am I going to like ninety minutes of this?
Speaker 9 (10:41):
And I did. There's just enough diversity that it was
entertaining the whole night.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, you mentioned before we go on to your other show,
my wife and I went to a jazz show a
couple of weeks ago Brian culberts In, which turned out
to be more like seeing I don't know, earth wind and.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Fire or something.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
He's a smooth jazz pianist when you hear him, hears
him on the radio, but it was it turned out
to be like seeing, like I said, earth Winded Fire
as a twelve fees band horn section, et cetera. But
the thing that I related to from your thing is
that we get there and this guy's a white guy
in his early fifties with spiked blonde hair and kind
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of funky looking guy, you know, looks like a jazz guy,
kind of but a little offbeat. So we're walking into
the the uptown and the places will end up being packed,
and it's like, hey, we're you know one, you know,
we're in the minority here. This is like the eighty
percent of the people are African American and this is cool.
And they were like in their fifties and dressed to
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the nines and it was just really cool. But it
was completely unexpected because all I knew about him was
that I saw this spiky blonde guy who played smooth
jazz piano, and here it is. It was just fabulous, actually,
and it was kind of a unique experience.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Yeah, I've been to several shows like that, some of
them expected, but some not.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
That's some it all.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
It all just affirms how how music affects everyone in
certain ways.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
And it's always good to be.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
In that environment with anybody who's who's enjoying something as.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Much as you are, right And I just like every
now and then to get a little taste of being
in a minority position.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Everybody should everybody should do that because and then people would.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And I said to one guy, like, you know, I'm
not used to being out dressed at a concert. You know,
this is a people are putting me to shame here.
So anyway, it was fun. It was fun. So how
about your other show?
Speaker 8 (12:34):
That was this guy named Ben Queller? And I don't know,
some people might remember this moment back in the back
in the mid nineties, post post Nirvana posts, their their
rise and then the death of Kirk Cobaine and how
much they affected music. There was a rush to find
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the next Nirvana. And there was this band called silver
Chair out of Australia, I think, and then we're like Nirvana,
but they're teenagers. And you know, it was record labels
just framing everyone some way with Nirvana and this band
called Radish who were sort of out of Texas. Ben
Queller was the leader of the band. He's from Greenville, Texas,
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but you know, he's from San Francisco. But the band,
they concocted the story around them and about them, and.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
They got a gush of media height.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
I think that I'm pretty sure the New Yorker ran
I read the story and Yorker read this story about
them that just kind of oversold them.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
Anyway. They never they just sort of died on the mine.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
They never met these you know, the hybrid, the expectations,
and so they went their separate ways and ben Queller
started his own look career and he's been doing that
for a while. Then he again, my wife is a
big fan of his. There's like all the Bends, there's
Ben Folds, there's Ben Lee, and then there's Ben Kweller,
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and there was two of.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
Them got together for the Bend anyway, but.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
He's a he's another pop songwriter, but he's his stuff
gets kind of thrashy because Phil Radish was kind of
that way, and that's just a really inventive songwriter, sort of.
Speaker 9 (14:17):
Indie rock, pop ballads. You know, Anthems the whole deal.
And his.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Years ago, not even almost three years ago, his sixteen
year old son was killed in a car crash and
has crushed him and you know, he talks about.
Speaker 9 (14:36):
It on stage.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Obviously, he gets emotional, and that was you know, a
couple of times, a couple of times in the show,
he he got weepy, he was he did a song
that he and his son had worked together on, and
he did a song about his son called Dorian, which
you know, he was broken up during that, as was
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my because she her son is named Dorian, so there
were emotional moments.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
He talks a lot, he's funny.
Speaker 8 (15:06):
That would have been my complaint is he he's a
little too gabby.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
But his music is good. His band is really good.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
Lots again, lots of harmonies, and I, yeah, I recommend
him if you like that kind of We have talked
about this bands like kind of like the pit se
season not really in that thing, but they can get
loud and aggressive, but they're always melodic and there's a groove.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
So he's in that thing.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
And the first time it was the second time i'd
seen him, the first time with his band, and yeah,
check out his music. And he's a good songwriter and
really sensitive lyricists.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
So it was a good show. Was that the garage
and knuckleheads. It was seated.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
We ended up sitting in what looked like theater seats,
or we pretended we were in an airplane because they
were like, I don't know if you know the seats
I'm talking about. They're off to the side, right, it's
a it's a little weird, but Frank knows what he's doing.
We probably bought all those in bulk, but pretty much
the place was full. So it was a good night.
Speaker 9 (16:09):
It was a Sunday night, and yeah, it was a
good time.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Somebody made people very happy through the years, and this
an iconic figure in music as Jimmy Cliff. He passed
away at eighty one, and it engendered many many tributes
from somebody who ventured or wove over into the pop
scene a little bit. I can see clearly it was
a song he did. Of course many people have done it,
but he's quite a figure in music.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
Well he was.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
He kind of preceded everyone in the reggae world and
paved the way for a lot of the great stars
and including Bob Marley, and he was you know, he
was adamant about not just doing reggae and expanding his
his palette, which he did.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
And yeah, he was in a movie. What was the
name of that movie that was really famous.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Harder They Come, I think it was called. And it
kind of made him a global multimedia star. So he
was you know, this was in the seventies, so it
wasn't not that usual for guys to be in movies
as much as they are now.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
But just a I guess he's just he to me,
he's at the foundation of all that.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
When I started listening to reggae or checking out reggae,
he was the first, one of the first I went to.
He made me appreciate some of the other guys like
Toots in the Metals and you know, the harder, more
pioneering guys that where the music came from. That that
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really started everything, including SKA, and so he not only
brought reggae into the into the mainstream, he also led
people like me to go back and see who was
there before him. He's as big as he gets as
they get in this genre and is influential. And also,
like I said, he explored a lot of genres of music.
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He didn't become what he didn't want to become, which
was just kind of a one trick reggae pony, because
he explored even hip hop. You know, he got into
that which we know as the fusion of reggae and
hip hop is still going on. So he was there
for a lot of that. He's very important, very important.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well, somebody who sort of carves their own niche as
well as Byork who just had a sixtieth birthday around
does what she wants to do, and a true artist,
as it were, our artiste and always an interesting person.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
So I think like most of us were introduced to
her through the her band.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
God it just that they just escaped me. But she she.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Is, like I said to you, a lot of a
lot of songwriters refer to themselves as artists, which is fair.
I guess a song can be art. I don't think
a lot of songs are. I think they're they're crafty,
but I think they we fall into them easily because
we've heard something like it before. It is familiar. But her,
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her music is art.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
It makes you think, It makes you pay attention, it
makes you.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Learn how to adjust to her. Just everything about her.
She doesn't she doesn't paint by numbers in the slightest
and she doesn't want to repeat herself, and she wants
to be unique, and she is as unique as.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
I think anyone in music. But she's also What I
like about.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Her music is it's it's not it's not too much,
it's not. I mean, there's some like Laurie Anderson, who's
a genius. But it's a lot of that stuff is
beyond my realm of right of following, you know, because
it's it's it's a way out there. I think New
York is always her music is always accessible in some way,
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but it's unlike any other artists, and I know, not
just women, but a lot of a lot of songwriters
who were trying to do something special and beyond the normal.
Speaker 9 (20:29):
Look to her, and she's not.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
She wouldn't be easy to mimic, but you can like
infer from her what she's doing and how she's applying
her artistic you know, vibe to the music she creates.
She's just very special and beloved. And she's only sixty, right.
I wouldn't have said that twenty years ago, but she's
only sixty.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And that means she should have some runway left. But
maybe maybe do a reunion with the Sugar Cubes.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Was the Native Cubes?
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Yes, that's yeah, that's thanks for reminding me of them,
Drew a Blank. That's who I think I was saying
before went on that I had a chance to see her.
That's Sue was opening for you too. I think it
was back in ninety two or some tour. They were
on the YouTube tour that came to Arrowhead, but she left.
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I think she left right before that. Yeah, so weally
got somebody else. But anyway, that was my one chance
to see her. And they're another band that's worth exploring
because they were sort of ahead of their time what
they were doing, right.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
That's the Sugar Cubes.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
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Coming up next, It's Danny and Tim's Music Scene, part
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to working with you. Welcome back. And Squeeze was a
band and really kind of a duo, as several of
those type of bands actually.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Were in many ways.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
They have been together for over fifty years now and
they are putting out a new album. A single came
out and it was reviewed in The Guardian, which I
highly recommend their sleeve notes every Friday. It's a great,
great resource for finding out about music old and new
and artists old and new. And this is kind of
a combination of the two because they wrote the album
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that we are talking about here. I think it's called Lizzie.
I believe I'll find it here in a second, but
back in nineteen seventy four, and then they scrapped it
as they went on to stuff that was a little
more accessible perhaps, And so this album has gotten a
tremendous review in the in the Guardian, and so it
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will be out, actually, the album itself will be out
in March, and I'm obviously String Trixies is the name
of the album. So anyway, I always liked their sound.
It's Tillbrook and Chris Difford are the two guys who
are mostly the creative side of that particular band. They're
still together and they're making good music. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
I love their music.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I discovered them in college when they just shortly after
they had come out, and it is this perfect usion
of it's got like a sense to new way when
it's also more steep than just British pop in the Beatles,
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and their songs are compositions. They do a lot of
nippy things. They're energetic. Songs are super energetic. Their ballads
are great. The song Tempted you know it is one
of their most famous songs by Paul Carrick, who also
sang you know how long great vocals but Andie gets
(27:29):
your Gun. I can list just a ton of songs
that they do that are just so invigorating, and they
come and go in like three minutes plus or minus
ten seconds.
Speaker 9 (27:37):
They're just in and out, boom boom. They're so.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
I think their sound is the pop sound is so rich.
And my wife loves pop music, but sometimes she's like, okay,
I'm not with a sugar high or something too much
to digest here, which is like, yeah, I love it. Well,
so yeah, I'm excited because I didn't know anything about
any of this.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, this should be very cool. And I hear I am.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'm looking at a picture of Squeeze right now, and
guess who their keyboard player was? Who I soon played
that wonderful. Uh like Oregon solo and tempted Jewles Holland. Yeah,
I did not know that, so.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's cool, that's fun. I'm a Jewels Holland fan, that's
for sure. So this actually is there cool for cats
up the Junction, really cool songs that they made, and
a big part of this particularly yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:37):
If they got really like flat coffee in bed, get
into soul music, yeah, Bridge soul whatever. Yeah, a wide palette, very.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Very good stuff and interesting tale And I just found
out Jules Holland was in Squeeze, so that makes me happy.
And I like running around doing this stuff for this podcast.
A lot of times I end up discovering things that
are weird or different than one I was going to
do last time. Which isn't that weird or different, but
has a connection to me. Is Alex Chilton, who was
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the original band was the Box Tops, and they recorded
their first big hit and it was a huge hit,
was The Letter. And the Letter is personal to me
because when I was a DJ back in the day,
I worked all day long and I had to do
a variety of different things and being a DJ was
just one of them. And I was writing the News
while I was doing my DJ shift, and one day
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my general manager program director calls me in and he says,
you're playing The Letter by the Box Tops at the
top of the hour way too much, and what would
happen is that I would just get distracted or whatever,
and then we had to hit the News at the
top of the hour. Is a hard hit to go
to CBS News. And the Letter is the shortest hit
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song in the history of music. It's one minute and
forty nine seconds long. And so I'd be scrambling around
and I go, oh my god, I got to play
the Letter. So that's my connection to the Letter. But
the Box Stops had several great hits cry Like a Baby,
Sweet Cream, Ladies, Forward, March, sol Deep. A lot of
these were written by the group of Penn Ran Spooner Oldham,
(30:11):
really famous ann Wayne Carson who wrote a lot of
their songs. They're famous songwriters. Anyway, he went on to
become the lead man and lead singer for Big Star,
which I've really just heard so much about. I had
a friend who was college who was a huge Big
Star fan. Everybody said Big Star with their Big Stars,
they're going to be the biggest stars and they never were.
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It's really a very interesting musical tale. But I heard
the letter recently and that's how I stumbled upon this.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I did not know that was Alex Chilton. I know.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's a very well sung song with great sort of
white soul tinge to it.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
It's just a cool tale to me.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Yeah, it's hard to come up with anyone whose career
pivoted like his dead after he left.
Speaker 9 (30:57):
I guess he just wasn't supery with.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Damn pop radio start him, so he he followed, you know,
his instincts, and they were like the epitome of a
cult band.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Like.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
The replacements of a song called Alex Shelton. Ari Em mentions.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Them and they one of those bands that never really
was rewarded as much as they should be for their
for their art and their influence, because I would call
them music art and.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yeah, he like Badfinger.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
It comes to mind, and just just like knowing you're
putting out stuff that you know your critics love their
subjectively is superior to a lot of stuff that's on
the radio and not getting any traction.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
A lot of it has to do with record labels and.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
You know, just the business of music and radio stations
not playing it, blah blah blah.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
So they were frustrated and they just sort of, you know,
eeked out.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
He did some solo stuff, but you go back, there's
the documentary out on them. Their great song, September Girls
is like one of their biggest or most favorite songs.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
I don't know that, you know, but you go back
and listen to him.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
One of their famous recordings is Live in Columbia, Missouri,
back in like the nineties or something.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Right, So that's a local angle, I guess.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
But I thought I was going to see them in
twenty ten in March. He was going to be a
south By Southwest. He was going to be part of
a panel. They were going to do a couple of showcases.
And he died that.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
Night before he was supposed to.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
Right, So the night before south By, like everyone that
was just everyone's phone was like, oh sorry. So they
did a lot of it's more than tributes to him,
but that was that was that was blindsiding.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
It was I mean, I don't it's like.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
This kind of what kind of epitomizes his career? He
couldn't get. But Tommy was never right, you know, and
he was brilliant. He was was humble and modest, but
he was also pretty tamacious about what he wanted to
do and how he wanted to do it, and he
didn't want to play games with anybody. You got to
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admire someone like that because he had options.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah. There, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
That sort of ties into the story of Ricky Nelson,
who was a huge star, and of course he was
on Nausey and Harriet, and that's how he became famous.
And his parents were and band His father was a
band leader, his mother was a band singer, and he
became a pop star, probably because of the TV show.
And even though the songs he sang and he ended
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up being a good songwriter too, were written by other people,
but he really was a great singer, and he had
a natural natural good looks and everything. And they kept
those good looks until he died in a plane crash
in nineteen eighty five on New Year's Eve. But he
kind of just ditched that whole thing and created his
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own band in his own way and went into country music.
And I just have heard him quite a bit recently,
just by happenstance, because his music is all over serious.
They play him on the Baker's Field Beat, they play
him on deep tracks, they play but I heard his
first hit song, Poor Little Fool, and which is really
(34:31):
a catchy song, except that has those Elvis style backup
singers that I can't stand. And ever, I don't know
what they're called, the Jordanaires. I think it's one version
of them. Can't stand that stuff. But anyway, poor Little
Fool is a great song, and he's a great singer.
And before I go on with my little tail, you
have a little nugget of Ricky Nelson that you like.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Yeah, I came across this who knows how right what
time of the morning it was that I ran into it,
But I don't think I was watching the movie. But
this is from the movie Rio Bravo, And this song
is called My Rifle, My Pony and Me.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
You know, I think he wrote it.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
But he is with Dean Martin who's lying on this
whatever couch kind of with his hands at the back
of his head and Ricky Martin, Ricky Nelson is strumming guitar,
and he has the most impressive hair pompadoora I've ever
(35:29):
seen like. I don't think I would put it up
against anyone's there. Elvis is included like he is handsome
to the twelfth degree, got a great voice, and so
he and Dean Martin singing this song my Rifle my
Pony in Me is very short. They're in this bunk house.
John Wayne's in.
Speaker 9 (35:49):
The background kind of nodding along, and.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Walter Brennan's in there interjecting stuff. It's so delightful and
they harmonize and go back and forth. It's just like
two minutes of absolute pop sort of country is bliss.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
It's just so perfect.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
As we said off the air, it reminds you of
what a really great singer Dean Martin is.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I mean, just an underrated performer.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
It's a great documentary about Dean Martin out last year
if you want to see it at just a totally
underrated performer and somebody who really wasn't anything like his
public persona portrayed him as. But anyway, yeah, very good actor, definitely.
But the little tale I will weave just before we
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go is this actually just because I was seeing that
and I said, well, I think I'll look up Ricky
Nelson and see, you know, I know a lot about him,
and I know about garden Party and.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
But Poor Little Fool was written by a woman named
Sharon Seely, and she wrote quite a few hit songs,
a lot of hit songs for Glenn Campbell, Ricky Nelson,
Brenda Lee, Eddie Cochran. And she was about to marry
Eddie Cochran nineteen sixty and she went to the United
Kingdom to join Cochrane and Jeane Vincent and they were
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touring there and then they were about to head back
to America and they took a cab to Heathrow and
I don't know what happened, but the private higher taxi
slammed into a lamppost, killing Eddie. Cochran eventually died the
next day. Vincent had severe leg injuries which affected his career.
She was okay, And you know, Eddie Cochran's a lost treat.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I mean, Cochran was. He was only twenty one years old.
He was great. I mean that was That's.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
A real loss there, what buddy, Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But she was okay.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
She returned to the US and then she married la
radio personality Jimmy O'Neil, and they created the ABC TV
series Shindig, which was a huge sensation and a really
well done show. And we watched episodes of Shindig fairly
often all the musical appearances are done live and it's
(38:02):
it's really cool. So a really weaving rock and roll
story featuring Sharon Sweeney and Shannon Sheeley and Ricky Nelson
who died tragically in a plane crash after his career
weaved and he had our comeback with Garden Party, which
was a song about how he didn't want to sing
all these songs and just kind of a cool rock
(38:25):
and roll tale with a lot of tragedy in it.
Speaker 8 (38:29):
Yeah, it's a reminder of one how people there are
that created or behind or produce really significant moments, whether
it's music or TV shows that.
Speaker 9 (38:44):
No one really knows about. And you know, we have.
Speaker 8 (38:48):
Access to that information because you know, of the of
the internet now, stuff like that will come out. But
and it's also just like, yeah, how many different when
music had been as some of those right people had
lived to be at least under their forties or fitting right.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
So I put Buddy Holly at the top of the list. Right.
Speaker 8 (39:10):
We had a discussion about well, now, Kurt Cobaine, I'm
la sorry, no no sit down, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9 (39:18):
But especially back then in any conference.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
One of those for sure, he is for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And finally, to wrap things up, I don't know how
credible this is. My wife actually the other day sent
me a thing about ameprazol, which I take, and she
was sent some convoluted article about how it wasn't good
for you, and she sent it to me on the
phone and I looked it up and I was like,
and I ended up texting her back and saying, dear,
this This article was written by a woman named Linda Wellness.
(39:45):
I don't think it's really credible record a credible article,
but anyway, Live Nation has supposedly conducted a survey which
they say is accurate, and that seven out of ten
people say they would choose a concert over sex. Now
this is absurd, of course, I don't know unless you
really have terrible sex. But I guess if you know
(40:08):
you just had a one off concert that you had
only one chance to go to, you have a significant other,
you definitely could have sex another day.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't know how I would vote in that. I
don't know how the question was framed, but it just
gave me a chuckle.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
Well, the the variable that I've discussed is you got
to pay to go see a concert, right, all things
aren't equal, But I mean, yeah, exactly what depend.
Speaker 9 (40:38):
On the show? Yes?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
And why do you have to make the choice? You
know you could do both?
Speaker 8 (40:45):
I think because yeah, and I think my if it
came to that, my wife are probably like, yeah, know,
we'll go to the show because I'm up Saturday.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
We'll take care of that later.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yes, we'll have a quote unquote date another time.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
All right, Well we'll see what I mean.
Speaker 9 (41:01):
You know, I guess when you gotta sell tickets, you'll.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Say anything you will.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Indeed, always enjoyable, Tim, you have yourself a grant Thanksgiving.
Glad you enjoyed the game at Arrowhead and that it
taught you a lesson that the TV and the couch
might be a better spot for chiefs viewing.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
So all the time, all the time, and.
Speaker 9 (41:21):
I'm glad it was there. Yeah, my buddy, my good
buddy Ranks.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, we'll talk to you again in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 9 (41:28):
Good thanks, Danny.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
We hope you enjoyed the latest Danny Klinkscale Reasonably Irreverent podcast.
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