October 28, 2025 • 44 mins
The Chiefs were a bit messy and started slow, but eventually cranked it up for another easy win, while the college weekend featured dominance for the ‘Cats, and frustration for Mizzou and the Jayhawks. Let’s break it down and look ahead!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Danny Clinkscale Reasonably irreverent podcast, insightful and
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Welcome to Danny and Stan's Football Weekend. It's on a Tuesday.
I'm a little bleary eyed, yes, indeed, I stayed up
all the way to the finish of the baseball game,
and the Chiefs made sure that I watched almost all
of the baseball game, which was over six hours long.
As the Chiefs eventually got things rolling and ended up
winning handily. It was an exactly tidy Early on, we'll
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now at five and three for two very difficult road
games that will be defining the middle part of this season.
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I'm gonna leave the slate clean before I weigh in
with any thoughts. Stan, I don't know quite what to
make of this Chiefs game. Commanders came in with some injuries,
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backup quarterback, squandered some early chances, and when it was
nothing nothing after the Commanders had kind of dominated the
early part of the game, you kind of figured, well,
they missed their opportunity, and in the end they.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Did, Yes, they did. I think one of the big
themes is.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Andy Reid's kind of mindset change about thinking about going
for fourth down. He has turned very aggressive the last
couple of weeks and put some risk into the game.
So he either thought in this specific game against Washington
that his team was so much better.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
He didn't worry about it, and it was just.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
A matter of time till the flood gates open, or
he was giving Washington a real chance.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I guess when you go for fourth down, everyone thinks.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
You're gonna make it every time, Danny, and if you
got Patrick Mahomes, I guess that's an okay bet. But
it went for fourth down in their own territory. They
went for fourth down when the game was tied. I
think about that, so I thought Marcus Mariotto Mariotta was
going to step in and be just fine for Jaden Daniels,
and I thought that, yeah, that was my big prediction
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for the game, that everyone acted like Washington had no
chance to go this is the NFL and this guy
will be fine.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I thought he played great.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Then you add that they had Deebo Samuel, who would
have thought that he might have cost them in the game.
Washington did a nice job on that first possession, using time,
going down the field, hardly using third downs, trying to
get first downs on second down, which is how you
have to do it against Steve Spagnola, and then on
a first down pass it bounces right off who I
think is a superstar player Deebo Samuel and bounces right
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to the Chiefs and the Chiefs get out of jail.
Now the Chiefs throw an interception at the other end,
so it kind of balances out. But when I thought
Andy Reid when he went for fourth down from the
three yard liner, so if you wouldn't have made that, Danny,
the game would have been tied. There was a fumble
when the score was fourteen to seven that Rashid Rice
had and for some reason, the ball bounces right back
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to the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Every single time, you.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Realize they haven't lost a fumble all year. Every fumble
has gone back to the Chiefs. I think nine of
them or something like that. So that happened again. So
to me, the game was a little closer than everyone
wants to say at twenty eight to seven, and just go, Okay,
you wiped out the Raiders, you wiped.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Out Washington fully expected. Here we go.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Well at the end of the day, I have no
problem with the conclusion about the Chiefs playing really good
football four straight games of twenty eight points or more.
I have no problem with the weapons that the Chiefs
are presenting being a big deal. The defense is great,
and I do believe the Chiefs are the best team
in the National Football League right now, so that conclusion
really it should be the headline.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Danny.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
I'm kind of splitting some hairs to say this game
had a little more intrigue than a lot of people
want to talk about in postgame. If that fumble would
have bounce to Washington and it scores fourteen to seven
at that point, even with Andy getting his fourth down touchdown,
Washington could have been right back in the game and
kept it close. Am I predicting that the Commanders are
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to win a game, Danny with one or two plays
here there?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
No, I didn't say that.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
I just think that this really should have been a
twenty four to seventeen win by the Chiefs or something,
a nice solid win for NFL purposes, but not mark
it down as another Raider blowout continuation.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 7 (07:17):
I just don't want to act like Washington was awful,
can't play defense at all, had a backup quarterback, and
the Chiefs blew them out.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
That's not the game I watched.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
No, I agree with that completely. Also, there was a
big turning point when they forced an incompletion on second
and five and got a hitting the defenseless receiver penalty
that gave the Chiefs a first down right at a
point where they were taking control of the game. So
the Chiefs have been said getting some nice bounces here
the last couple of weeks. Also, and next up, I.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Thought the mark on a tight end was wrong too.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
I thought that was a fourth down conversion by Washington
at that point in the game. Remember early, Yes, and
they before the major. Man, I'm not saying the masior
was wrong, the spotting was wrong, right.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Yeah, I agree with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
If there wasn't a technology there, I think they would
have given him a first down. Well, well they didn't,
but I think at old school review a video back
in New York probably would have given them a first down.
But another thing for me to talk about and present
to you, as we always like to talk about quarterbacks,
is this one's weird. First I'm going to say this,
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Patrick Mahomes threw an interception on a back shoulder fade.
He said that last week was the first time he'd
ever thrown a back shoulder fade in the game. Can
you believe that?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Yeah, isn't that amazing? Yeah? Yeah, that amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's it's really just kind of foolish, kind of foolish,
to be honest, but it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
It's you know, it puts the ball at risk.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
Danny, if you're really got a great offensive system and
you can move around the way he can to keep
a play alive. I pull the trigger as soon as
the ball gets back to your hands. And maybe you
don't even get the laces on the ball to throw
a ball with a defender. If he has an instinct
and turns around, actually you could catch the ball more
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easily than your receiver, you know, so I could see
where in the playing out the odds that he.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Says, I don't want to go there.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Let me let me let me just say that. Yeah,
let me try another part of it though. When you
throw a proper back shoulder fade, you're supposed to throw
it like a couple of yards short towards the sideline,
so that it is a pretty safe pass that if
it you know, yes, it isn't.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah, in the middle of field. You're exactly right, Danny.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
But the question he did.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
It at the goal line, right, and and this time
he did it, which was a slot receiver running at
what angle is that forty five degree angle. Ishyah, okay,
slot fade. So that's different than what I'm hearing you say.
If what I may you say is you and I
are running down the field in your co bring me
on my left hip, and we're flying down the sideline
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and all of a sudden, the ball's thrown almost behind
me over to the sideline or when I stop, there's
no way you can do anything but stop and go
what the heck's going on? I turn around, reach over
the sideline and catch it easily.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
It appears well.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Or not, or it goes out or it goes out
of bounds and there's no harm.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Movie, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Oh it's just a little too far outside. That's a
beautiful throw. It's been a great strategy.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
That strategy I really like.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
I don't like when the defender's trailing behind and not
beside and then they call this stupid pass interference calls
against the defender for doing something wrong. The NFL's got
to change that rule. That makes college football better than
the pros. Watching a fake pass interference on an underthrown ball,
you know, when the defender does nothing wrong. But in
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this case, I'm focusing in on the two plays that
Patrick had where he threw the back shoulder fade in
the end zone with a defender right nearby, and Rashid
Reich just snags that thing like no big deal.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
And then this one.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
The slot fade where the angles change and he throws
it where he's got to cross through the defender to
get to his guy and ended up with an interception.
But the thing with Patrick Mahomes is I fully trust
that he didn't have a brain lock or just say something.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
To say it.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
If he says that he hasn't thrown that before until
last game, I'm.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Like, I believe him.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
This guy he has so much, he has so much
credibility with me in his interviews what he tells us.
I've never gone and said, oh, that's player or coach talk,
and that's a bunch of crap. He is very very
open about what's going on. So I'm like, you, I go,
what all these years and that's the first one, right,
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And now he's got number two and he's got an interception.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
It might be the end of that for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, just like the quarterback sneaking, I'll say I think
his last couple of games have been I don't know, cocky, sloppy.
If he plays like that the next couple of weeks,
I don't like the Chief's odds very much. Everybody's talking
about how great the offense is playing, and they are,
they are, and they've got weapons all over the place,
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but it seems to have made him a little giddy
back there.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Well, it's very interesting that you bringing this up, Danny,
because the play that he is has put together is
spectacular and dangerous, not within the offensive system really, it's
backyard football. And you and I think were on the
same page if I remember correctly, as much of anybody
else that I ever talked to about football, that what
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Patrick did last year running the football for the Chiefs
was brilliant. Yeah, that was not a good offense, and
when he played within the system and through those little
short passes, it was very ineffective compared to Super Bowl
level teams. But man, he would put the team on
his back and run and scramble. It's third and nine
and he'd go get ten, you know. But this year
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he started the year with that sense of urgency. As
the Chiefs fell to oh and two, he went into
what we call what now he's called it playoff. Pat
he's kind of let us know that in the playoffs
he's going to run a little bit more and take chances. Well,
he's turned into playoff pat this year to survive the
early season struggles, and so he's been doing that and
he continues to do that, which a is getting him
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hit a lot more than you wish he would. Maybe
he will never get hurt. Every other quarterback in the
NFL seems to get hurt if you tap him, you know,
so that's a little bit risky. But what you're getting
back to is something that I think is very very
well pointed out. If we go back to the Raider game,
for instance, and you say, hey, she Rice is back,
and man, you got Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy and
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a nimble I'll say Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
And more. Okay, Smith, Schuster's good, Thornton's good, Noah Gray's good.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
He really does have some weapons, right, and Smith, the rookie,
even coming out of the backfield's a great receiver. That
offense that the Chiefs ran against the Raiders was lethal, Okay,
as designed, it was hitting on all cylinders. I think
people want to act like the same thing happened when
the Chiefs played the commanders and they're again hitting on
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all cylinders. I think what you're saying, and I would
agree with one hundred percent. That was not an en
sync offense that cut apart Washington. That was Patrick Mahomes
just messing around in the backfield, acting like I used
to play when we'd played backyard football four on four,
you know. And on the Manning cast you had Adams
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the old Raider and now Ram sitting there going do
they run any patterns? He's seriously was, you know, half
joking and half serious talking to the two Manning's going,
I need to ask those guys, are they really running patterns?
Are they just going out there and find an open grass?
And Patrick's turned into it like he ran early, like
they still are desperate. But when he didn't run, he
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scrambled around. Look at the one time he got really
close to going across the last scrimmage and it's a
fourteen yard completion.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I mean, the results are awesome.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
The results are awesome, but you're pointing out something very important.
This was not a continuation of great offense, great design
and cutting teams apart. By saying we can spread the
field fifty three and a half yards across. We now
can lengthen the field to forty to fifty yards downfield
because we can strike the ball down to the field all
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those things. That was not what we saw last night.
We saw backyard football. And I agree with you this
next three games. I don't know if you want to
be playing backyard football against the Denver defense.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Right.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Okay, you can get Danny, You can get by with it
against Buffalo. You know, I do not believe in Buffalo's
defense at all, So he may be able to do
that another game. But when you get to the Denver Broncos,
you do not want to see him run around with
that pass rush coming out and hopeing he can hang
on long enough and find area to escape. To open
up receivers. You need to start throwing the ball on time.
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And this game here, I don't remember many plays at
all where he dropped back and threw a pass and
completed the twelve yard pass like it is no big deal,
or hit a slant or whatever.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
This was.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
This was like a Monday Night football special, like Patrick saying,
watch this right, We're gonna have some fun and Washington's
not going to touch me, and I'm going to complete
passes so late. He did it all night long. It
cut the heart out of Washington. That's why they lost.
And while they're frustrated, but it was not Andy Reid
drawing up an offense.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
It was being executed perfectly by all these weapons.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, let's move on to Buffalo. It's a big game.
It's a late afternoon game in Buffalo. I think Buffalo
would really like to win this game for a variety
of reasons. They're sick of losing to the Chiefs, but
they usually do beat him in the regular season, so
I don't know if it'll be rewarding to them, but
certainly it's a big game for both teams. The Chiefs,
with Denver looming afterwards, would be playing to stay above
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five hundred when they play the Broncos if they drop
this one. This does have the looks of a high
scoring game. Again, the Bills have added a pretty lethal
James Cook this year to the mix. And if Steve
Spagnolo is so excellent at shutting down big backs that
if he really cooks the books and stuffs the box
to stop James Cook, well then you got Josh Allen
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to just pull it and go. There should be a
big challenge for Steve.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Absolutely, and these two teams know how to play each
other on a big stage, and it should be just
highly rated.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Television and it should be a big time show.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
These two teams, no matter what you think about where
they stand with the other teams on this Sunday, Danny,
I think they will play the role perfectly. It's not
too big for him. I think it'll bring out the
best of them. The respect, the adrenaline, the confidence. They
both think that they could match up with the other team.
This is not a burden that Buffalo is saying, oh,
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we can't win. You know, Chiefs are better than us.
Like you said, They've got enough success in the regular
season that they could at least say, hey, at home
in a regular season, we even beat the Chiefs. So
there's got to be that confidence level. There is a
sense of urgency on both teams, which is rare. Okay,
we've seen some great games between these two teams. But
what has it been for Oh that number one seed, Oh,
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the home field advantage, But that's worth talking about in
the NFL, Danny. But what's much more concerning is when
a loss is painful. Okay, Buffalo is not a very
good football team. They have not.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Played good football this year.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Go back and watch the Atlanta game, go back and
watch the New Orleans games. I've been calling this out
for weeks, Danny. This is a two man show. You know,
Cook cooking it at running back and Josh Allen just
unbelievable play at quarterback. Other than that, the rest of
the guys, the other starters could be mixed in, and
you could trade any of the twenty guys or all
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of the twenty guys and replace them with almost any
even in the NFL's twenty guys.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Danny. That's what Buffalo is.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
They're not magical a being, they're not magically coached on defense,
none of that. But they think they're good, okay.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
And they know that they can stand up to the
bright lights.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Of Tony Romo and Jim Nancer in town for the
You know, the biggest game of the year in regular
season is usually Buffalo and Kansas City, So I fully
expect them to play out and show out and remind
us of everything they've been the last five years.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I think it'll be an awesome game.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
But there's gonna be some fake news in here, Danny,
because Buffalo is not that great if they lose this game,
and I expect it to be closed because I think
they match up well with Kansas City. But if they
lose this game, they may not even win the division
because New England has a set jaw.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
A coach that's ready to roll and schedule. It's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
And they've already won at Buffalo, so you can't be
Buffalo and not win the division. I mean, it's a
little bit like the Chiefs. We think about winning super Bowls,
but if you're back in Buffalo, they've been winning divisions
year after year after year, and they think they're better
than everybody in the AFC East by far. And they
lose this game, they could be in trouble with even
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winning their division.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
And you know, on the Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Side, Danny, that although we can look up and say
that Vegas odds are saying the Chiefs are the most
likely team to win the Super Bowl, they're tied for
second and then the tiebreaker to the third team in
their own division. So you don't want to give Denver
a two game league and say, well, we'll go beat Denver. Okay, fine,
you beat Denver, You're still behind the Broncos. Right, you know,
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and you don't have an easy schedule. You still got
the Colts coming up. So this game has a lot
at stake for the loser. The winner will feel pretty
good about themselves and confirm, hey, we're good. We're good.
It'll be fake news if Buffalo wins. The Chiefs win
will be a good statement. It will be a really
good statement that they are the best team in the NFL.
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But I fully expected to be of a challenge just
because Josh Allen. Josh Allen not need a great team
around him to fight and claw, and even Steve Spagnola
cannot stop this guy down. I mean, he will bring
it in this game. It'll be super exciting. I think
it'll be high scoring and a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
And there is some intrigue about who's going to win
the game.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
I would give the benefit of the doubt to the
Chiefs because they're a better team. But you know, this
is Buffalo versus Kansas City, and you.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Kind of wipe the records out.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
I mean, when he's two teams play, they think they
think it's a super Bowl. I mean, this is the
best game when the NFL schedule comes out the last
few years.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Let's talk about some college football coming up next with Stan.
Big weekend last weekend, couple of buys this weekend, but
a big win for the Kansas State Wildcats. We'll check
in on last week, look ahead to next week on
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Welcome back and Stan. I can't think of two teams
that are on completely different space. Is with the same
record as Kansas State at Kansas sitting at four and
four on the year, the Wildcats have plenty of momentum.
They just thrashed the Jayhawks. The Jayhawks pretty much no
showed an important game before a sellout crowd that has
Kansas fans rumbling about the savior of their program. Lance
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Lightpold and the Cats made their seventeenth consecutive statement.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
They really did, Danny and k State has had some inconsistencies.
Leading Baylor by fourteen points and losing that game in
the fourth quarter. After having the football, I thought maybe
that was the best game of the year that Case
State played. I thought they played really well on the
road against a feisty Baylor team that had a great offense,
and yet they lost the game. So how could you
feel good about yourself? You know, it's really hard to
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feel the confidence. But they put together a nice stretch
after a buye beating UCF, I think out playing Baylor
but blowing it, and then beating TCU.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
That was a nice stretch of football for k State.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
And then he got a week off and got for
prayer for KU. The unreliability of in case he gets
a twenty one point lead against UCF and TCU and
almost the very next play, a long touchdown play going
the other way makes it a fourteen point lead.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Those kind of things.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
But if you cut out those little pieces of inconsistency,
the down after down, if I watch tape with you, Danny,
the down after down version of K State is pretty
solid across the board.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
There really is no weakness.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
They may not be dominant at things, but there is
no weakness across the board.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
And so that's a nice place to start.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
And last week, with respect to KU and my position
as a broadcaster for k State and all that, I
really try to just factor in all those things and
leave a little room to say, hey, maybe case you'll
fumble on the first kickoff return of the day, you know,
and just crazy crap will happen, right and suddenly KU
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is equal.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
But when I.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Talked to you off the air, when I talked to
steven Saint John off the air, and people say, well,
who cares about that? You know, I mean, I'm trying
to define myself here, Danny. You know what I said
off the air that k State's the better team, right,
And I really felt that the more I studied it
that this Kansas team is not as good as last
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year's Kansas team. Okay, Jalen Daniels is playing better, but
other than that, they lost three really great offensive linemen.
They lost three really great wide receivers, and he lost
Devin Neil, the all time leading rusher in KU football history,
and their offensive line is not that strong, and it's
just Jalen scrambling. Well, he did scramble against k State
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on one drive at eighteen play drive where he pulled
KU within twenty one to fourteen before the half and
was getting the ball to start the third quarter. And
so that's the risk, right. I looked at Kansas as like,
can you tackle Jalen Daniels? And k State couldn't tackle
him in the first half, and he just put the
whole team he Josh Allen did right, But that was
not going to work if Aby Johnson played a solid
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game and Avery Johnson did not only play a solid game,
he showed out and played in the rain an unbelievable
passing game, Danny, because case fumbled the first play of
the game on a kickoff, They're down seven to nothing,
and KU thinks, here we go, We're the favorite. Everything's
going right, and case State just went right down the
field passing the football and he had multiple twenty five
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to thirty five yard completions in critical situations and just
dictated to Ku that you're not as good as we
are when he threw the ball like that, they aren't
as good.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
So Casey's definitely on an uptick.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
And now it's easier for me to say I confirmed
what I thought as I studied the tape last week.
My son in law was over and naturally sitting on
the edge of his seat, very nervous, like is this streak.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Going to end?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
You know?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Oh oh? And I was like, no, case State's better.
It's going to take really something crazy for KU to
win the game.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
I go, I don't even know if I believe this,
but it is oozing out in all my value euation,
the Ku is.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Not very good.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Other than Jalen Daniels, Lance Leipold and the team believes
they're good and they've sequenced the season out pretty well,
But now where are they going to go Danny with this.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
They have had a.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Good season and they can finish this season out and
go to a bowl game for the third year in
the last four years. And Lance Leipoldt's really building things
and it is a regression. They aren't as good as
they were last year. They got a new defensive coordinator,
they got a new offensive coordinator. There's a lot of
things going on. I'm not blasting KU. It's just this
team is not as good as last year's if that
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makes sense. And people think they're better because their record
was better, and they really were really looking at case
State and saying, oh it's a disappointment. Well, Case State's
not playing like a disappointment right now. You know, if
this were Army, they're head an Army thirteen or nothing.
If that were KU, yeah, k you could have come
back and won. So a little bit bad timing for Kansas.
The K State's actually playing the level of football we
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thought they would at the beginning of the year, and
a little bit of a bad break that in the
year they get k State at home. They're not quite
as good. What will happen because you know confidence. I
talk to you about this all the time, Danny. Believing
you're good when you're not really great is not a cutdown.
It is really awesome for a coaching staff to do
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this in the NFL to the Buffalo Bills, they're not
that good, Danny. But with Josh Allen, they don't know
it and they may never know it. They may win
a Super Bowl this year. It's wide open. Kansas isn't
a great team, but they don't know it until k
State fleees them.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Right.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
I mean, forty two to seventeen against Tech, forty two
to seventeen against k State in their home stadium.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
How are they going to respond now? The one giant
break at.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
K I think I said they had to buy this week. Well,
they kind of do, except they get to play. I mean,
Oklahoma State is flat, no showing games. I mean they
aren't even competing in their games, no scoring. I know
they're dreadful.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
No, No, it's it's Texas.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Tech went opening kickoff ninety nine yards for a touchdown,
turnover on maybe one of the next two plays against
Olkahma State and a touchdown in the first play they
got the ball. I mean, Okahma State does not have
my gundy. Olklahoma State has a guy who didn't play
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quarterback in college basically playing quarterback right now. They are
no showing it. So this is such a break for
KU because I've got people I've talked to who are
going over to Lawrence for the game, and I'm going
this is unbelievable. After that, the last two weeks, the
questioning of KU is going to be immense. The fans
are not going to be that enthusiastic at the tail game.
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But the good news is you're going to win.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Yeah, you're going to win.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
So that is the breath of fresh air that usually
can get the team back online to give them a chance.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
They got three games games, Danny that are going to
be pretty hard. But all I got to do is.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
Be one and two in those three games and they
get to six and six, which is the goal. Get
six wins, go to a bowl game, get extra practice,
win that game, and the season will be a success.
If it's all about just beating KSE State, no, but
other than that it can still be a success. But
if they start realizing that they're not that good, that
they're just okay, they could lose all three of those games, Danny,
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And so it's very good that they're playing in oklhand State.
But you got to be a little worried. You've got
to be a little bit worried until I studied a
tape really closely, did I go. I've been telling you, Danny,
no defender on Kansas's team scares anybody, right, And you
got a new defensive coordinator, right, And so they got
one great wide receiver, high Shaw is a good running
back and Jalen Daniels is playing his butt off. Other
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than that, it's nondescript across Kansas's team. And Case State
exposed that and said, all you've got if we guard
your wide receiver, all you got to screen passes, right,
screen passes and Jalen scrambling.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
That's all you can do against a good team.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
In Case they just totally laid it out for everybody
to see.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Let's talk about Missouri that now they're the team with
the buye. Probably a good time for it. It's not
like they played badly against This was just a tough,
grinded out game. And Vanderbilt looked to me like they,
you know, diego Pavia didn't have big numbers or anything,
but even though they were outstated, I kind of always
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felt like Vanderbilt was going to win the game. In
the end they did. This was way different than I
think everybody thought this game was going to play out.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Yeah, probably, it's just magical and he didn't show a
lot of that against Missouri.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
So credit Missouri.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
You know, there's so many reasons why Missouri could say
we could have should have won the game, and that
one eighty yard touchdown or whatever just just punches you
in the mouth. When Young went eighty yards to get
Vanderbilt that touched and I was out of character with
every other play in the game right in those count
If you played the game over it, that wouldn't happen
in Missouri would probably win the game. So Missouri did
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a lot of good things on defense.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I thought.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Bringing the freshman quarterbank quarterback in Zalars, he really did
a pretty fine job. Having a week off for Matt
Zalars is going to be helpful, unfortunately both for Beulah.
Looks like he's going to be out for a while
or maybe the season. I haven't heard, but it's not
good at first. Blush at this point in the year
as we get ready to head into November. But zalors
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I thought handle himself very well for a young quarterback
in this two weeks to get ready for the next
game will get him an advance to be ready for
that game.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
And they really need a game like this.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
As crazy as it sounds, you might be playing the
best team on your whole schedule.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
I would say Alabama, but you might say, Danny.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah A and m keeps proving Yes, they keep proving
it every week. I keep waiting for him to screw
up and they don't.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
So this might be let's just, you know, for simplicity,
say the highest ranked team and maybe the best team
they're going to play all year comes in the next game.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Well they need that.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
You might say, I want to play Oklahma State like ku,
you know, give me Oklahma State and the easiest win. Ever,
the fact is Missouri needs a bounce because they're not
trying to have a good season right now, Danny. They're
trying to get back into the top eleven for that
twelve team playoff. Remember, there's one school who's not a
power of five or four school that's going to get in.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
So you got to be in the top eleven.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
They need something to really advance them as a two
loss team to get credibility.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
You beat Texas A and M.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
That might do it right, and then you finish out
the rest of the year winning and you see a
couple of things and you might get into the top
eleven and actually get back into the College Football playoff.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
And I'll talk about it.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
They'll go back and watch a tape and say Missouria
is every bit as good as Alabama on the field physically,
and they had better stats than Vanderbilt. You'll get credit
for that if you beat Texas A and M. So
you know this is triple or nothing playing Texas A
and M. Because if you lose, you'll be back to
say we haven't beaten a ranked team this year. Everyone's
going to say you had an easy schedule to start
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and when you played good teams, you lost all.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Three of those games. I get all that, GAMI, but
this program is ready for that risk.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
It's not going to break the program. The possibility of
batching up against Texas A and M, who they have
normally until last year. They laid an egg last year.
That was bad for Missouri, but.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Other than that, they usually beat A and M. And
they usually beat teams like.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
This, the South Carolinas and the Texas A and M's
when they come into Columbia. You know, this is in
Alabama or Georgia. This is that next level team. They
could very easily match up and get things done and
beat Texas A and M.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
It's going to be a close game.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
That's kind of what Texas A and M does in
Missouri's defense probably can keep it a close game. So yeah,
you got to get Texas A and M a slight
favorite position because they are undefeated, they're playing well, and
you have a freshman quarterback. But this is kind of
good for Missouri. Week off and just triple or nothing.
Let's see what happens. Can we possibly turn this season
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into a college football playoff ten win season? All those
things are right there in Missouri's grass. I know they're
thinking about last week and said, hey, we had in
our grass last week we were we should have beat Vanderbilt.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
I'll give you that. You know, I thought they would
beat Vanderbilt.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
But it's man, it's it's tough messing with Pavia. That
guy just knows. Even in a game where he didn't
put up great stats.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You think scored the winning touchdown.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Do you think what did you think? You said they're
going to win right and win this.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I thought he was going to do something and help
win the game, which he did exactly. So say this
before let's wrap it up with this about Missouri Stan
and wrap up the segment is I don't think it's
the greatest loss in the world that Perbulah is out.
They weren't doing anything in this game with him in there.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Zollars isn't as good a runner as Berbula. He's probably
not as like gritty and tough. But I think given
a week off and given the confidence that he played
pretty well in the game, I don't think there's a
big off there. I'm not concerned about that.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
At quarterback, well, let's look at the timeline because Danny,
we've talked about this, you and I together that he
was in a quarterback battle with Sam Horn, so we
didn't know who was going to be the quarterback even
during the first game, supposedly, so he turns it on.
There is a bit about quarterbacking Danny, of not knowing
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some of the risks out there and not worrying about
failing when you're just trying to play and say, can
I play at this level? I went through that my
first introduction into starting quarterback, Danny. I was a big
A player of the week against Nebraska, number one in
the country.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Okay, then I beat Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Johnson's team at Oklhoma State on the road. There was
something easier about just trying to survive and prove that
I could play. And the doubt of myself was there,
but I said, what the heck, let's go. But I
wasn't scared of the opponent or the risks. Then suddenly
you start getting better and everyone says, well, as long
as you play your game, you're not going to lose.
And then you start almost trying to play to not lose.
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Does that make sense that you quit free wheeling it
a little bit and playing.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
With a naive a confidence or give it a shot.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
To ooh, I better protect the ball, better not throw
that one, because I might turn it over, because if
we don't turn it over, we're gonna win.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
You know that mentality? I think bo Prabula.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Oh and by the way, the other thing I talk about,
like a baseball hitter, you come out and hit the fastball, well,
guess what they're going to start throwing you the curve
ball and making they adjust to you. Those two things
made you and I talk about did Bo Prebula level off?
Did he regress a little bit? Is he as good
as he showed early in near And I told you
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I don't have a deep conclusion, and I'd look at
this Vanderbilt game as a big another point of emphasis,
But there's a likelihood that he played better early and
then when he got beat up a little bit, they
got used to and all those things that you level off, Well,
guess what Matt Zollers might be back to where he
was both Privula was not a dead sense deal. At
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the beginning of this year when Missouri played Kansas, we
didn't know if he was going to play great, and
we're like, wow, this guy's good. So I think, Danny,
you're onto something. Matt Zellers might just go out and
play with a freshness. His body's you know, it feels good.
He's not beat up. He has just enough experience, but
mostly he has enough inexperience to go why not?
Speaker 6 (40:27):
And usually the coaches aren't too hard on you.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Danny, when you're an established quarterback, they're on your butt
about everything.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Why did you throw the ball that guy? You know
you should have thrown it at this guy, Oh blah
blah blah.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
But when you're younger, newer, less established, they're just happy
when good things happen, you know, like, good job, good job,
good job. Now we'll teach you later that you could
have done this instead, but for right now, good play.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
So it's it's kind of.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
Amazing that they the coaches give you a warm, comfortable
blanket to play in when you're Matt Zollars. So yeah, Danny,
crazy as it seems. You lose your good starting quarterback,
but getting a fresh approach after two weeks, and this
kid has nothing to lose if they lose a game,
Missouri fans aren't going to go Matt Zalars lost this game.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
I don't even want to say hi to his family
when we walk out if we happen to see him, Bob.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
But no, they're going to say, hey, we had a
freshman quarterback. He's our backup, he's supposed to be our
third stringer. He wasn't quite ready. The rest of the
team had to make up for that and do extra
things for us.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
To beat A and M. So we didn't do it.
Oh that's fine, you know.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
I mean if bo Prabula loses that game, everyone wants
to throw.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
Him baby out with the bathwater. Does that make sense?
I think you're onto something. There's got a chance in
this game.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
A and M is good, but they are not down
to down consistent. They have amazing inconsistencies in their game.
When you watch them and you say, well, do I
watch them? Well, Danny, I do watch Texas A and M.
Because one of my best friends in the football world
is calling Climb, the offensive coordinator, and so I do
watch Texas A and M football, And sometimes I just
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shake my head, and you know, you guys are really good,
but you sure hide it for about half a quarter
or a quarter. You know, why aren't you blowing Mississippi
State out? Why are they still in the game late
in the third quarter? What's going on around here? So
we've seen it. This is gonna be a great game.
It's good that Missouri's off. It's good that Kansas has
Oklahoma State.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Yes, and for k State. I haven't talked about it yet, Danny,
but I'll talk to you more about it.
Speaker 7 (42:25):
I'm glad they're playing Texas Tech because that is a
monster game, a monster challenge. But it's the perfect team
for K State to play right now with momentum, and
it has an underdog at home. Case State does not
get a chance to do that very often. That is fun.
It is fun when they say you shouldn't win this game.
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Texas Tech's awesome. Their rosters worth millions, Danny Ners is
only worth hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
You don't have a chance beating these guys, and they're going,
like Texas Tech. We beat them every time.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
You know, I mean, the kids are going to go
out in the field and the fans are going to
have a blast. And as you know, Danny, my favorite
kickoff time, thirty in the afternoons should be that's good
for home teams.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Should be a good one.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
Stan.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
We'll be talking later in the week on Sports Radio
eight ten and next week as well, after a big
game for the Chiefs and a big weekend of college football.
Stan Weber, thanks.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
For the time, Stan, thank you, Danny.
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nothing nothing after the Commanders had kind of dominated the
early part of the game, you kind of figured, well,
they missed their opportunity, and in the end they.
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couple of weeks and put some risk into the game.
So he either thought in this specific game against Washington
that his team was so much better.
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He didn't worry about it, and it was just.
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he was giving Washington a real chance.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I guess when you go for fourth down, everyone thinks.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
You're gonna make it every time, Danny, and if you
got Patrick Mahomes, I guess that's an okay bet. But
it went for fourth down in their own territory. They
went for fourth down when the game was tied. I
think about that, so I thought Marcus Mariotto Mariotta was
going to step in and be just fine for Jaden Daniels,
and I thought that, yeah, that was my big prediction
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for the game, that everyone acted like Washington had no
chance to go this is the NFL and this guy
will be fine.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I thought he played great.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Then you add that they had Deebo Samuel, who would
have thought that he might have cost them in the game.
Washington did a nice job on that first possession, using time,
going down the field, hardly using third downs, trying to
get first downs on second down, which is how you
have to do it against Steve Spagnola, and then on
a first down pass it bounces right off who I
think is a superstar player Deebo Samuel and bounces right
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to the Chiefs and the Chiefs get out of jail.
Now the Chiefs throw an interception at the other end,
so it kind of balances out. But when I thought
Andy Reid when he went for fourth down from the
three yard liner, so if you wouldn't have made that, Danny,
the game would have been tied. There was a fumble
when the score was fourteen to seven that Rashid Rice
had and for some reason, the ball bounces right back
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to the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Every single time, you.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Realize they haven't lost a fumble all year. Every fumble
has gone back to the Chiefs. I think nine of
them or something like that. So that happened again. So
to me, the game was a little closer than everyone
wants to say at twenty eight to seven, and just go, Okay,
you wiped out the Raiders, you wiped.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Out Washington fully expected. Here we go.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Well at the end of the day, I have no
problem with the conclusion about the Chiefs playing really good
football four straight games of twenty eight points or more.
I have no problem with the weapons that the Chiefs
are presenting being a big deal. The defense is great,
and I do believe the Chiefs are the best team
in the National Football League right now, so that conclusion
really it should be the headline.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Danny.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
I'm kind of splitting some hairs to say this game
had a little more intrigue than a lot of people
want to talk about in postgame. If that fumble would
have bounce to Washington and it scores fourteen to seven
at that point, even with Andy getting his fourth down touchdown,
Washington could have been right back in the game and
kept it close. Am I predicting that the Commanders are
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to win a game, Danny with one or two plays
here there?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
No, I didn't say that.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
I just think that this really should have been a
twenty four to seventeen win by the Chiefs or something,
a nice solid win for NFL purposes, but not mark
it down as another Raider blowout continuation.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 7 (07:17):
I just don't want to act like Washington was awful,
can't play defense at all, had a backup quarterback, and
the Chiefs blew them out.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
That's not the game I watched.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
No, I agree with that completely. Also, there was a
big turning point when they forced an incompletion on second
and five and got a hitting the defenseless receiver penalty
that gave the Chiefs a first down right at a
point where they were taking control of the game. So
the Chiefs have been said getting some nice bounces here
the last couple of weeks. Also, and next up, I.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Thought the mark on a tight end was wrong too.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
I thought that was a fourth down conversion by Washington
at that point in the game. Remember early, Yes, and
they before the major. Man, I'm not saying the masior
was wrong, the spotting was wrong, right.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Yeah, I agree with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
If there wasn't a technology there, I think they would
have given him a first down. Well, well they didn't,
but I think at old school review a video back
in New York probably would have given them a first down.
But another thing for me to talk about and present
to you, as we always like to talk about quarterbacks,
is this one's weird. First I'm going to say this,
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Patrick Mahomes threw an interception on a back shoulder fade.
He said that last week was the first time he'd
ever thrown a back shoulder fade in the game. Can
you believe that?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Yeah, isn't that amazing? Yeah? Yeah, that amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's it's really just kind of foolish, kind of foolish,
to be honest, but it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
It's you know, it puts the ball at risk.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
Danny, if you're really got a great offensive system and
you can move around the way he can to keep
a play alive. I pull the trigger as soon as
the ball gets back to your hands. And maybe you
don't even get the laces on the ball to throw
a ball with a defender. If he has an instinct
and turns around, actually you could catch the ball more
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easily than your receiver, you know, so I could see
where in the playing out the odds that he.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Says, I don't want to go there.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Let me let me let me just say that. Yeah,
let me try another part of it though. When you
throw a proper back shoulder fade, you're supposed to throw
it like a couple of yards short towards the sideline,
so that it is a pretty safe pass that if
it you know, yes, it isn't.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah, in the middle of field. You're exactly right, Danny.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
But the question he did.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
It at the goal line, right, and and this time
he did it, which was a slot receiver running at
what angle is that forty five degree angle. Ishyah, okay,
slot fade. So that's different than what I'm hearing you say.
If what I may you say is you and I
are running down the field in your co bring me
on my left hip, and we're flying down the sideline
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and all of a sudden, the ball's thrown almost behind
me over to the sideline or when I stop, there's
no way you can do anything but stop and go
what the heck's going on? I turn around, reach over
the sideline and catch it easily.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
It appears well.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Or not, or it goes out or it goes out
of bounds and there's no harm.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Movie, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Oh it's just a little too far outside. That's a
beautiful throw. It's been a great strategy.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
That strategy I really like.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
I don't like when the defender's trailing behind and not
beside and then they call this stupid pass interference calls
against the defender for doing something wrong. The NFL's got
to change that rule. That makes college football better than
the pros. Watching a fake pass interference on an underthrown ball,
you know, when the defender does nothing wrong. But in
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this case, I'm focusing in on the two plays that
Patrick had where he threw the back shoulder fade in
the end zone with a defender right nearby, and Rashid
Reich just snags that thing like no big deal.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
And then this one.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
The slot fade where the angles change and he throws
it where he's got to cross through the defender to
get to his guy and ended up with an interception.
But the thing with Patrick Mahomes is I fully trust
that he didn't have a brain lock or just say something.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
To say it.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
If he says that he hasn't thrown that before until
last game, I'm.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Like, I believe him.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
This guy he has so much, he has so much
credibility with me in his interviews what he tells us.
I've never gone and said, oh, that's player or coach talk,
and that's a bunch of crap. He is very very
open about what's going on. So I'm like, you, I go,
what all these years and that's the first one, right,
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And now he's got number two and he's got an interception.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
It might be the end of that for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, just like the quarterback sneaking, I'll say I think
his last couple of games have been I don't know, cocky, sloppy.
If he plays like that the next couple of weeks,
I don't like the Chief's odds very much. Everybody's talking
about how great the offense is playing, and they are,
they are, and they've got weapons all over the place,
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but it seems to have made him a little giddy
back there.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Well, it's very interesting that you bringing this up, Danny,
because the play that he is has put together is
spectacular and dangerous, not within the offensive system really, it's
backyard football. And you and I think were on the
same page if I remember correctly, as much of anybody
else that I ever talked to about football, that what
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Patrick did last year running the football for the Chiefs
was brilliant. Yeah, that was not a good offense, and
when he played within the system and through those little
short passes, it was very ineffective compared to Super Bowl
level teams. But man, he would put the team on
his back and run and scramble. It's third and nine
and he'd go get ten, you know. But this year
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he started the year with that sense of urgency. As
the Chiefs fell to oh and two, he went into
what we call what now he's called it playoff. Pat
he's kind of let us know that in the playoffs
he's going to run a little bit more and take chances. Well,
he's turned into playoff pat this year to survive the
early season struggles, and so he's been doing that and
he continues to do that, which a is getting him
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hit a lot more than you wish he would. Maybe
he will never get hurt. Every other quarterback in the
NFL seems to get hurt if you tap him, you know,
so that's a little bit risky. But what you're getting
back to is something that I think is very very
well pointed out. If we go back to the Raider game,
for instance, and you say, hey, she Rice is back,
and man, you got Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy and
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a nimble I'll say Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
And more. Okay, Smith, Schuster's good, Thornton's good, Noah Gray's good.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
He really does have some weapons, right, and Smith, the rookie,
even coming out of the backfield's a great receiver. That
offense that the Chiefs ran against the Raiders was lethal, Okay,
as designed, it was hitting on all cylinders. I think
people want to act like the same thing happened when
the Chiefs played the commanders and they're again hitting on
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all cylinders. I think what you're saying, and I would
agree with one hundred percent. That was not an en
sync offense that cut apart Washington. That was Patrick Mahomes
just messing around in the backfield, acting like I used
to play when we'd played backyard football four on four,
you know. And on the Manning cast you had Adams
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the old Raider and now Ram sitting there going do
they run any patterns? He's seriously was, you know, half
joking and half serious talking to the two Manning's going,
I need to ask those guys, are they really running patterns?
Are they just going out there and find an open grass?
And Patrick's turned into it like he ran early, like
they still are desperate. But when he didn't run, he
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scrambled around. Look at the one time he got really
close to going across the last scrimmage and it's a
fourteen yard completion.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I mean, the results are awesome.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
The results are awesome, but you're pointing out something very important.
This was not a continuation of great offense, great design
and cutting teams apart. By saying we can spread the
field fifty three and a half yards across. We now
can lengthen the field to forty to fifty yards downfield
because we can strike the ball down to the field all
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those things. That was not what we saw last night.
We saw backyard football. And I agree with you this
next three games. I don't know if you want to
be playing backyard football against the Denver defense.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Right.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Okay, you can get Danny, You can get by with it
against Buffalo. You know, I do not believe in Buffalo's
defense at all, So he may be able to do
that another game. But when you get to the Denver Broncos,
you do not want to see him run around with
that pass rush coming out and hopeing he can hang
on long enough and find area to escape. To open
up receivers. You need to start throwing the ball on time.
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And this game here, I don't remember many plays at
all where he dropped back and threw a pass and
completed the twelve yard pass like it is no big deal,
or hit a slant or whatever.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
This was.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
This was like a Monday Night football special, like Patrick saying,
watch this right, We're gonna have some fun and Washington's
not going to touch me, and I'm going to complete
passes so late. He did it all night long. It
cut the heart out of Washington. That's why they lost.
And while they're frustrated, but it was not Andy Reid
drawing up an offense.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
It was being executed perfectly by all these weapons.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, let's move on to Buffalo. It's a big game.
It's a late afternoon game in Buffalo. I think Buffalo
would really like to win this game for a variety
of reasons. They're sick of losing to the Chiefs, but
they usually do beat him in the regular season, so
I don't know if it'll be rewarding to them, but
certainly it's a big game for both teams. The Chiefs,
with Denver looming afterwards, would be playing to stay above
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five hundred when they play the Broncos if they drop
this one. This does have the looks of a high
scoring game. Again, the Bills have added a pretty lethal
James Cook this year to the mix. And if Steve
Spagnolo is so excellent at shutting down big backs that
if he really cooks the books and stuffs the box
to stop James Cook, well then you got Josh Allen
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to just pull it and go. There should be a
big challenge for Steve.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Absolutely, and these two teams know how to play each
other on a big stage, and it should be just
highly rated.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Television and it should be a big time show.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
These two teams, no matter what you think about where
they stand with the other teams on this Sunday, Danny,
I think they will play the role perfectly. It's not
too big for him. I think it'll bring out the
best of them. The respect, the adrenaline, the confidence. They
both think that they could match up with the other team.
This is not a burden that Buffalo is saying, oh,
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we can't win. You know, Chiefs are better than us.
Like you said, They've got enough success in the regular
season that they could at least say, hey, at home
in a regular season, we even beat the Chiefs. So
there's got to be that confidence level. There is a
sense of urgency on both teams, which is rare. Okay,
we've seen some great games between these two teams. But
what has it been for Oh that number one seed, Oh,
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the home field advantage, But that's worth talking about in
the NFL, Danny. But what's much more concerning is when
a loss is painful. Okay, Buffalo is not a very
good football team. They have not.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Played good football this year.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Go back and watch the Atlanta game, go back and
watch the New Orleans games. I've been calling this out
for weeks, Danny. This is a two man show. You know,
Cook cooking it at running back and Josh Allen just
unbelievable play at quarterback. Other than that, the rest of
the guys, the other starters could be mixed in, and
you could trade any of the twenty guys or all
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of the twenty guys and replace them with almost any
even in the NFL's twenty guys.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Danny. That's what Buffalo is.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
They're not magical a being, they're not magically coached on defense,
none of that. But they think they're good, okay.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
And they know that they can stand up to the
bright lights.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Of Tony Romo and Jim Nancer in town for the
You know, the biggest game of the year in regular
season is usually Buffalo and Kansas City, So I fully
expect them to play out and show out and remind
us of everything they've been the last five years.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I think it'll be an awesome game.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
But there's gonna be some fake news in here, Danny,
because Buffalo is not that great if they lose this game,
and I expect it to be closed because I think
they match up well with Kansas City. But if they
lose this game, they may not even win the division
because New England has a set jaw.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
A coach that's ready to roll and schedule. It's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
And they've already won at Buffalo, so you can't be
Buffalo and not win the division. I mean, it's a
little bit like the Chiefs. We think about winning super Bowls,
but if you're back in Buffalo, they've been winning divisions
year after year after year, and they think they're better
than everybody in the AFC East by far. And they
lose this game, they could be in trouble with even
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winning their division.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
And you know, on the Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Side, Danny, that although we can look up and say
that Vegas odds are saying the Chiefs are the most
likely team to win the Super Bowl, they're tied for
second and then the tiebreaker to the third team in
their own division. So you don't want to give Denver
a two game league and say, well, we'll go beat Denver. Okay, fine,
you beat Denver, You're still behind the Broncos. Right, you know,
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and you don't have an easy schedule. You still got
the Colts coming up. So this game has a lot
at stake for the loser. The winner will feel pretty
good about themselves and confirm, hey, we're good. We're good.
It'll be fake news if Buffalo wins. The Chiefs win
will be a good statement. It will be a really
good statement that they are the best team in the NFL.
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But I fully expected to be of a challenge just
because Josh Allen. Josh Allen not need a great team
around him to fight and claw, and even Steve Spagnola
cannot stop this guy down. I mean, he will bring
it in this game. It'll be super exciting. I think
it'll be high scoring and a lot of fun.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
And there is some intrigue about who's going to win
the game.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
I would give the benefit of the doubt to the
Chiefs because they're a better team. But you know, this
is Buffalo versus Kansas City, and you.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Kind of wipe the records out.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
I mean, when he's two teams play, they think they
think it's a super Bowl. I mean, this is the
best game when the NFL schedule comes out the last
few years.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
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Speaker 2 (24:54):
Welcome back and Stan. I can't think of two teams
that are on completely different space. Is with the same
record as Kansas State at Kansas sitting at four and
four on the year, the Wildcats have plenty of momentum.
They just thrashed the Jayhawks. The Jayhawks pretty much no
showed an important game before a sellout crowd that has
Kansas fans rumbling about the savior of their program. Lance
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Lightpold and the Cats made their seventeenth consecutive statement.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
They really did, Danny and k State has had some inconsistencies.
Leading Baylor by fourteen points and losing that game in
the fourth quarter. After having the football, I thought maybe
that was the best game of the year that Case
State played. I thought they played really well on the
road against a feisty Baylor team that had a great offense,
and yet they lost the game. So how could you
feel good about yourself? You know, it's really hard to
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feel the confidence. But they put together a nice stretch
after a buye beating UCF, I think out playing Baylor
but blowing it, and then beating TCU.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
That was a nice stretch of football for k State.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
And then he got a week off and got for
prayer for KU. The unreliability of in case he gets
a twenty one point lead against UCF and TCU and
almost the very next play, a long touchdown play going
the other way makes it a fourteen point lead.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Those kind of things.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
But if you cut out those little pieces of inconsistency,
the down after down, if I watch tape with you, Danny,
the down after down version of K State is pretty
solid across the board.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
There really is no weakness.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
They may not be dominant at things, but there is
no weakness across the board.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
And so that's a nice place to start.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
And last week, with respect to KU and my position
as a broadcaster for k State and all that, I
really try to just factor in all those things and
leave a little room to say, hey, maybe case you'll
fumble on the first kickoff return of the day, you know,
and just crazy crap will happen, right and suddenly KU
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is equal.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
But when I.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
Talked to you off the air, when I talked to
steven Saint John off the air, and people say, well,
who cares about that? You know, I mean, I'm trying
to define myself here, Danny. You know what I said
off the air that k State's the better team, right,
And I really felt that the more I studied it
that this Kansas team is not as good as last
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year's Kansas team. Okay, Jalen Daniels is playing better, but
other than that, they lost three really great offensive linemen.
They lost three really great wide receivers, and he lost
Devin Neil, the all time leading rusher in KU football history,
and their offensive line is not that strong, and it's
just Jalen scrambling. Well, he did scramble against k State
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on one drive at eighteen play drive where he pulled
KU within twenty one to fourteen before the half and
was getting the ball to start the third quarter. And
so that's the risk, right. I looked at Kansas as like,
can you tackle Jalen Daniels? And k State couldn't tackle
him in the first half, and he just put the
whole team he Josh Allen did right, But that was
not going to work if Aby Johnson played a solid
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game and Avery Johnson did not only play a solid game,
he showed out and played in the rain an unbelievable
passing game, Danny, because case fumbled the first play of
the game on a kickoff, They're down seven to nothing,
and KU thinks, here we go, We're the favorite. Everything's
going right, and case State just went right down the
field passing the football and he had multiple twenty five
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to thirty five yard completions in critical situations and just
dictated to Ku that you're not as good as we
are when he threw the ball like that, they aren't
as good.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
So Casey's definitely on an uptick.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
And now it's easier for me to say I confirmed
what I thought as I studied the tape last week.
My son in law was over and naturally sitting on
the edge of his seat, very nervous, like is this streak.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Going to end?
Speaker 7 (28:49):
You know?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Oh oh? And I was like, no, case State's better.
It's going to take really something crazy for KU to
win the game.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
I go, I don't even know if I believe this,
but it is oozing out in all my value euation,
the Ku is.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Not very good.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Other than Jalen Daniels, Lance Leipold and the team believes
they're good and they've sequenced the season out pretty well,
But now where are they going to go Danny with this.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
They have had a.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Good season and they can finish this season out and
go to a bowl game for the third year in
the last four years. And Lance Leipoldt's really building things
and it is a regression. They aren't as good as
they were last year. They got a new defensive coordinator,
they got a new offensive coordinator. There's a lot of
things going on. I'm not blasting KU. It's just this
team is not as good as last year's if that
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makes sense. And people think they're better because their record
was better, and they really were really looking at case
State and saying, oh it's a disappointment. Well, Case State's
not playing like a disappointment right now. You know, if
this were Army, they're head an Army thirteen or nothing.
If that were KU, yeah, k you could have come
back and won. So a little bit bad timing for Kansas.
The K State's actually playing the level of football we
(29:56):
thought they would at the beginning of the year, and
a little bit of a bad break that in the
year they get k State at home. They're not quite
as good. What will happen because you know confidence. I
talk to you about this all the time, Danny. Believing
you're good when you're not really great is not a cutdown.
It is really awesome for a coaching staff to do
(30:17):
this in the NFL to the Buffalo Bills, they're not
that good, Danny. But with Josh Allen, they don't know
it and they may never know it. They may win
a Super Bowl this year. It's wide open. Kansas isn't
a great team, but they don't know it until k
State fleees them.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Right.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
I mean, forty two to seventeen against Tech, forty two
to seventeen against k State in their home stadium.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
How are they going to respond now? The one giant
break at.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
K I think I said they had to buy this week. Well,
they kind of do, except they get to play. I mean,
Oklahoma State is flat, no showing games. I mean they
aren't even competing in their games, no scoring. I know
they're dreadful.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
No, No, it's it's Texas.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Tech went opening kickoff ninety nine yards for a touchdown,
turnover on maybe one of the next two plays against
Olkahma State and a touchdown in the first play they
got the ball. I mean, Okahma State does not have
my gundy. Olklahoma State has a guy who didn't play
(31:27):
quarterback in college basically playing quarterback right now. They are
no showing it. So this is such a break for
KU because I've got people I've talked to who are
going over to Lawrence for the game, and I'm going
this is unbelievable. After that, the last two weeks, the
questioning of KU is going to be immense. The fans
are not going to be that enthusiastic at the tail game.
(31:49):
But the good news is you're going to win.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Yeah, you're going to win.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
So that is the breath of fresh air that usually
can get the team back online to give them a chance.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
They got three games games, Danny that are going to
be pretty hard. But all I got to do is.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
Be one and two in those three games and they
get to six and six, which is the goal. Get
six wins, go to a bowl game, get extra practice,
win that game, and the season will be a success.
If it's all about just beating KSE State, no, but
other than that it can still be a success. But
if they start realizing that they're not that good, that
they're just okay, they could lose all three of those games, Danny,
(32:27):
And so it's very good that they're playing in oklhand State.
But you got to be a little worried. You've got
to be a little bit worried until I studied a
tape really closely, did I go. I've been telling you, Danny,
no defender on Kansas's team scares anybody, right, And you
got a new defensive coordinator, right, And so they got
one great wide receiver, high Shaw is a good running
back and Jalen Daniels is playing his butt off. Other
(32:50):
than that, it's nondescript across Kansas's team. And Case State
exposed that and said, all you've got if we guard
your wide receiver, all you got to screen passes, right,
screen passes and Jalen scrambling.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
That's all you can do against a good team.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
In Case they just totally laid it out for everybody
to see.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Let's talk about Missouri that now they're the team with
the buye. Probably a good time for it. It's not
like they played badly against This was just a tough,
grinded out game. And Vanderbilt looked to me like they,
you know, diego Pavia didn't have big numbers or anything,
but even though they were outstated, I kind of always
(33:29):
felt like Vanderbilt was going to win the game. In
the end they did. This was way different than I
think everybody thought this game was going to play out.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Yeah, probably, it's just magical and he didn't show a
lot of that against Missouri.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
So credit Missouri.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
You know, there's so many reasons why Missouri could say
we could have should have won the game, and that
one eighty yard touchdown or whatever just just punches you
in the mouth. When Young went eighty yards to get
Vanderbilt that touched and I was out of character with
every other play in the game right in those count
If you played the game over it, that wouldn't happen
in Missouri would probably win the game. So Missouri did
(34:04):
a lot of good things on defense.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I thought.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Bringing the freshman quarterbank quarterback in Zalars, he really did
a pretty fine job. Having a week off for Matt
Zalars is going to be helpful, unfortunately both for Beulah.
Looks like he's going to be out for a while
or maybe the season. I haven't heard, but it's not
good at first. Blush at this point in the year
as we get ready to head into November. But zalors
(34:28):
I thought handle himself very well for a young quarterback
in this two weeks to get ready for the next
game will get him an advance to be ready for
that game.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
And they really need a game like this.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
As crazy as it sounds, you might be playing the
best team on your whole schedule.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
I would say Alabama, but you might say, Danny.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah A and m keeps proving Yes, they keep proving
it every week. I keep waiting for him to screw
up and they don't.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
So this might be let's just, you know, for simplicity,
say the highest ranked team and maybe the best team
they're going to play all year comes in the next game.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Well they need that.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
You might say, I want to play Oklahma State like ku,
you know, give me Oklahma State and the easiest win. Ever,
the fact is Missouri needs a bounce because they're not
trying to have a good season right now, Danny. They're
trying to get back into the top eleven for that
twelve team playoff. Remember, there's one school who's not a
power of five or four school that's going to get in.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
So you got to be in the top eleven.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
They need something to really advance them as a two
loss team to get credibility.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
You beat Texas A and M.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
That might do it right, and then you finish out
the rest of the year winning and you see a
couple of things and you might get into the top
eleven and actually get back into the College Football playoff.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
And I'll talk about it.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
They'll go back and watch a tape and say Missouria
is every bit as good as Alabama on the field physically,
and they had better stats than Vanderbilt. You'll get credit
for that if you beat Texas A and M. So
you know this is triple or nothing playing Texas A
and M. Because if you lose, you'll be back to
say we haven't beaten a ranked team this year. Everyone's
going to say you had an easy schedule to start
(36:02):
and when you played good teams, you lost all.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Three of those games. I get all that, GAMI, but
this program is ready for that risk.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
It's not going to break the program. The possibility of
batching up against Texas A and M, who they have
normally until last year. They laid an egg last year.
That was bad for Missouri, but.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Other than that, they usually beat A and M. And
they usually beat teams like.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
This, the South Carolinas and the Texas A and M's
when they come into Columbia. You know, this is in
Alabama or Georgia. This is that next level team. They
could very easily match up and get things done and
beat Texas A and M.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
It's going to be a close game.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
That's kind of what Texas A and M does in
Missouri's defense probably can keep it a close game. So yeah,
you got to get Texas A and M a slight
favorite position because they are undefeated, they're playing well, and
you have a freshman quarterback. But this is kind of
good for Missouri. Week off and just triple or nothing.
Let's see what happens. Can we possibly turn this season
(37:00):
into a college football playoff ten win season? All those
things are right there in Missouri's grass. I know they're
thinking about last week and said, hey, we had in
our grass last week we were we should have beat Vanderbilt.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
I'll give you that. You know, I thought they would
beat Vanderbilt.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
But it's man, it's it's tough messing with Pavia. That
guy just knows. Even in a game where he didn't
put up great stats.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You think scored the winning touchdown.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Do you think what did you think? You said they're
going to win right and win this.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I thought he was going to do something and help
win the game, which he did exactly. So say this
before let's wrap it up with this about Missouri Stan
and wrap up the segment is I don't think it's
the greatest loss in the world that Perbulah is out.
They weren't doing anything in this game with him in there.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Zollars isn't as good a runner as Berbula. He's probably
not as like gritty and tough. But I think given
a week off and given the confidence that he played
pretty well in the game, I don't think there's a
big off there. I'm not concerned about that.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
At quarterback, well, let's look at the timeline because Danny,
we've talked about this, you and I together that he
was in a quarterback battle with Sam Horn, so we
didn't know who was going to be the quarterback even
during the first game, supposedly, so he turns it on.
There is a bit about quarterbacking Danny, of not knowing
(38:23):
some of the risks out there and not worrying about
failing when you're just trying to play and say, can
I play at this level? I went through that my
first introduction into starting quarterback, Danny. I was a big
A player of the week against Nebraska, number one in
the country.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Okay, then I beat Jimmy.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Johnson's team at Oklhoma State on the road. There was
something easier about just trying to survive and prove that
I could play. And the doubt of myself was there,
but I said, what the heck, let's go. But I
wasn't scared of the opponent or the risks. Then suddenly
you start getting better and everyone says, well, as long
as you play your game, you're not going to lose.
And then you start almost trying to play to not lose.
(39:02):
Does that make sense that you quit free wheeling it
a little bit and playing.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
With a naive a confidence or give it a shot.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
To ooh, I better protect the ball, better not throw
that one, because I might turn it over, because if
we don't turn it over, we're gonna win.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
You know that mentality? I think bo Prabula.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Oh and by the way, the other thing I talk about,
like a baseball hitter, you come out and hit the fastball, well,
guess what they're going to start throwing you the curve
ball and making they adjust to you. Those two things
made you and I talk about did Bo Prebula level off?
Did he regress a little bit? Is he as good
as he showed early in near And I told you
(39:41):
I don't have a deep conclusion, and I'd look at
this Vanderbilt game as a big another point of emphasis,
But there's a likelihood that he played better early and
then when he got beat up a little bit, they
got used to and all those things that you level off, Well,
guess what Matt Zollers might be back to where he
was both Privula was not a dead sense deal. At
(40:03):
the beginning of this year when Missouri played Kansas, we
didn't know if he was going to play great, and
we're like, wow, this guy's good. So I think, Danny,
you're onto something. Matt Zellers might just go out and
play with a freshness. His body's you know, it feels good.
He's not beat up. He has just enough experience, but
mostly he has enough inexperience to go why not?
Speaker 6 (40:27):
And usually the coaches aren't too hard on you.
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Danny, when you're an established quarterback, they're on your butt
about everything.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Why did you throw the ball that guy? You know
you should have thrown it at this guy, Oh blah
blah blah.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
But when you're younger, newer, less established, they're just happy
when good things happen, you know, like, good job, good job,
good job. Now we'll teach you later that you could
have done this instead, but for right now, good play.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
So it's it's kind of.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
Amazing that they the coaches give you a warm, comfortable
blanket to play in when you're Matt Zollars. So yeah, Danny,
crazy as it seems. You lose your good starting quarterback,
but getting a fresh approach after two weeks, and this
kid has nothing to lose if they lose a game,
Missouri fans aren't going to go Matt Zalars lost this game.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
I don't even want to say hi to his family
when we walk out if we happen to see him, Bob.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
But no, they're going to say, hey, we had a
freshman quarterback. He's our backup, he's supposed to be our
third stringer. He wasn't quite ready. The rest of the
team had to make up for that and do extra
things for us.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
To beat A and M. So we didn't do it.
Oh that's fine, you know.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
I mean if bo Prabula loses that game, everyone wants
to throw.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
Him baby out with the bathwater. Does that make sense?
I think you're onto something. There's got a chance in
this game.
Speaker 7 (41:42):
A and M is good, but they are not down
to down consistent. They have amazing inconsistencies in their game.
When you watch them and you say, well, do I
watch them? Well, Danny, I do watch Texas A and M.
Because one of my best friends in the football world
is calling Climb, the offensive coordinator, and so I do
watch Texas A and M football, And sometimes I just
(42:02):
shake my head, and you know, you guys are really good,
but you sure hide it for about half a quarter
or a quarter. You know, why aren't you blowing Mississippi
State out? Why are they still in the game late
in the third quarter? What's going on around here? So
we've seen it. This is gonna be a great game.
It's good that Missouri's off. It's good that Kansas has
Oklahoma State.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Yes, and for k State. I haven't talked about it yet, Danny,
but I'll talk to you more about it.
Speaker 7 (42:25):
I'm glad they're playing Texas Tech because that is a
monster game, a monster challenge. But it's the perfect team
for K State to play right now with momentum, and
it has an underdog at home. Case State does not
get a chance to do that very often. That is fun.
It is fun when they say you shouldn't win this game.
(42:45):
Texas Tech's awesome. Their rosters worth millions, Danny Ners is
only worth hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
You don't have a chance beating these guys, and they're going,
like Texas Tech. We beat them every time.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
You know, I mean, the kids are going to go
out in the field and the fans are going to
have a blast. And as you know, Danny, my favorite
kickoff time, thirty in the afternoons should be that's good
for home teams.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Should be a good one.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
Stan.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
We'll be talking later in the week on Sports Radio
eight ten and next week as well, after a big
game for the Chiefs and a big weekend of college football.
Stan Weber, thanks.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
For the time, Stan, thank you, Danny.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
That's another great Danny and Stan's football weekend always presented
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