December 1, 2025 • 34 mins
A thorough and enjoyable evaluation of an extended football weekend. It started with another blow to the Chiefs playoff chances in a frustrating loss to Dallas. Friday brought the end of the road for Kansas, and Saturday two gritty efforts sent Mizzou and K-State to vastly different bowl destinations. Plus other NFL and college dicussion to enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Danny Clinkscale, Reasonably irreverent podcast, insightful and
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to Danny and Stan's Football Weekend, always presented by
Advanced Sports and Family Chiropractic and Acupuncture, eight locations all
around Kansas City along Thanksgiving weekend of football, and some
went well and some did not. It started on Thanksgiving
with the Kansas City Chiefs and the Dallas Cowboys. And
the Chiefs mode this year has been to lose close games,
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Dallas has gotten hot. Those two things combined along with
maybe some curious fourth down decisions by Andy Reid, a
lot of complaints about the officiating, sort of the lament
of the loser. It all added up to a thirty
one to twenty eight victory for the Cowboys over the Chiefs,
and the Chiefs now at six and six, are in
danger of missing the playoffs. Maybe they have to run
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the table, maybe they don't. We'll have to wait and see.
Day after Thanksgiving was Kansas's to me slim chance of
beating Utah and get Bowl eligible, which they didn't do
despite putting up an excellent fight. They did a lot
of the things that they wanted to do, but their quarterback,
who has been such a big part of their resurgence,
made big mistakes in this game that basically flat out
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caught single handedly cost Kansas the game against Utah, and
so they will not go bowling. Going bowling. Our Maazoo
and Kansas State after Saturday grinded out performances, maybe particularly
by Kansas State against Colorado, but they both get the
job done. They both are going to Bowl's. I don't
know about the enthusiasm for Kansas State's bowld destination, but
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we'll have to wait and see what that as Missouri
also signs a big contract extension for Eli Drinkwitz. Good
time to be a college football coach, that is for sure.
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a little bit more NFL. Coming up next with Stan
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Welcome back, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. A
lot of football that's right up Stan Weber's wheelhouse, and
he had a small gathering at his home. Football was
able to be placed in just the proper spots and
the Dallas Cowboys, of course Stans. That was my boyhood team,
and I rooted for them probably up through two thousand.
I guess I still kind of root for him. Those
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uniforms he run out there in them, and I guess
I start to feel a little bit of rooting interest.
But Stan's is a fan and a fan of the
Chiefs too, so this is always an interesting day. But
it was Cowboys and Chiefs. Cowboys looked great, Dak Prescott
was great. They're wide receivers who are a couple of
world class knuckleheads, but they're unbelievable wide receivers. Victimize the
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Chiefs again and again on third down and fourth down,
and the Chiefs fall thirty one twenty eight Stan and
just not enough. It's been the story of the season.
Not quite enough for the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Yeah, close loss has been many different stories, hasn't there
Danny as of what came him up short? This one
just happened to be a bad matchup with the Dallas Cowboys.
They're used to playing on Thanksgiving Day. They know the routine.
It's year after year after year after year that they
know when they play on Sunday that they're gonna have
to get ready for that Thanksgiving game, you know, so
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they get ready two and three weeks before other teams
that just do it once in a while and have
to go on the road or at the disadvantage.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
I thought the Cowboys would play really good football.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I know, you know that they are hot per se
making a trade beating the Eagles, but really it's just
when the Chiefs walk in, it creates a level of
focus and intensity. And with their owner Jerry Jones, living
right down the street from Clark Hunt, there's all kinds
of day to day activity and respect for each other
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or rivalry or whatever you want to say. Those Dallas
residents and the Cowboys players obviously are tracking with what
their owners thinking. I mean, he's more quoted by far
than head coach Brian Schottenheimer. The schotten Himer is doing
a good job, playing calls, calling plays. Dak Prescott's on
fire throwing the football, and the wide receivers are just
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absolutely great pickings and lamb are hard to stop. And
the thing about the Chiefs playing against this team, You're
gonna have to deal with that passing game to win
the game, and the Chiefs are gonna have to bring
a blitz to create havoc in the backfield. Chris Jones
is not enough. He worked hard in the game, is
not enough to propression a quarterback. So you're gonna have
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to bring the blitzes. And Dallas had the answer, deep throws, passing, interference,
creating plays, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
It was not a good day to play the.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Cowboys and still the Chiefs almost one, because that's how
good the Kansas City Chiefs are. But it does bring
up a spotlight when we look forward and look at
this Chiefs team, Danny, I think Steve Spagnola and his
blitzing and play calling is the best in the NFL.
I think the tackling of the Chiefs is the best
in the NFL. I think that the execution and leaf
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in their coach and trying to do what he wants
him to do is the best in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
But it is not good enough in the passing game
right now.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
The blitz packages are not getting to the quarterback like
they have in the past, and the coverage downfield is
not as elite. Knocking the ball away Trent McDuffie, he's
still unbelievable. But other than that, they're just some good players,
you know, not dominant players. I think they missed Justin Reid,
so a couple of things were shown. Unfortunately, he played
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the Dallas Cowboys when they're going to be excited about
playing the Chiefs for the first time in four years,
and they're a passing team. But the other thing that's
continued on in benefactor here for a number of weeks
is Spagnola's defense is not as great at stopping the
third down plays, getting to the quarterback and not aligning
that complete.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
The pass downfield.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
And that's been a little bit of an achilles heel
for the Chiefs. It's given the other teams just a
slight chance to make a play here or there. We
saw it with bow Knicks in Denver when he got
downfield when the Chiefs bleed and completed some passes. And
Dallas is the wrong team to be messing with if
you're not going to be on point with that blitzing
against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, I think you and I are a little
bit more old school about fourth down and maybe taking
a field goal here or there, or you know, when
you go when you don't go. Andy Reid has been
very aggressive this year, but this game was one of
those ones where you're like, well, do you have a
philosophy or don't you The chief scored on two fourth downs,
but they punted in plus territory four times on fourth down.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah, I don't get it because Andy has flipped the switch.
In my mind, here's a guy who probably more like
you and I when you stated it a little more
old school hunt, get some field position and those kind
of things. Will throw that out the window. If you
just watched Andy Reid this year, he has been as
modern and into analytics as anybody going for fourth down
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in his own territory, you know, going for fourth down
it's the Cowboys, like you said, and paying off with
two touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Rather than two field goals.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I was surprised that he didn't take field goals down there,
other than I've watched him in the last five or
six weeks kick into we're going to go for fourth down.
Then you get to a point I remember specifically a
fourth and four in a late third quarter, and I go, well,
wait a second, the Chiefs have to go here.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
They're trailing punts the ball.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
So it's inconsistent, like I haven't seen because he's gone
to a go for it mentality, and he didn't do
that necessarily every time. Now, sometimes it's fourth and twelve
right at the forty nine going in, and you could
still be counted in your statement that you made.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
You know they're in plus territory. But when you're fourth and.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Four at about the forty four yard line or whatever
it was, I was really surprised that he punted a football.
And I was watching the game with my son, Landry,
who lives in Denver now, and he and I don't
get chance to sit there and watch games together, and
I go, you know, I'm surprised he punted there, especially
to the Cowboys, because I watch.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
The Cowboys so closely.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
They're one of the few teams, maybe like the Chiefs,
but other than the Chiefs, Dallas is the next best.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
In the NFL at not even blinking about a ninety
yard drive.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
They can make a ninety yard drive as well as
a sixty. Dak does not get tired of just grinding
down the field. Dandy, he doesn't. And sure enough, the
Cowboys dropped a slant pass which would have been an
easy first down first time they are backed up, and
the second time they're backed up they did go ninety yards.
And so I was really surprised against the Cowboys, with
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the evans they have in the passing game against the Chiefs,
that Andy didn't go for it there. But hey, he
surprised me right, going for fourth down and scoring two touchdowns,
so I can't track where they were, but we're gonna
have to see how he sorts this all out. I'm
not going to jump all over Andy Reid and criticize him.
It was just interesting to.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
See, well, we had Superman moments again for Patrick Mahomes.
They're asking him to do so much. But I think
maybe the most surprising thing the Chiefs fans is as
the season was playing out and they were getting these
big weapons back, They're like, Oh, as soon as we
get Hollywood Brown and Rashie Rice and all our guys
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out there and Worthy, all, this group's going to be unstoppable.
And then you watch the game and the only guy
you can throw to is Rice. What was going on?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Yeah, the connectivity is not there right now. You thought
you were coming at him with all these factors, and
I'll give you this again, Danny Rashi.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Rice has made some.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Unbelievably good plays, like in the last moments of the
Colts game was unstoppable. But then he's also the guy
who might just drop a pass what he did against
Dallas And is he really a reliable elite receiver or
is he a dangerous weapon? I would call him more
a dangerous weapon, and then you get an Xavier Worthy
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and he can be thought of as a dangerous weapon.
But he hasn't really been laying that out against the
NFL much this year. He hasn't caught those deep passes,
that connectivity hasn't gone there. But he's fast and explosive
in his own way. Travis Kelsey's actually playing better than
anybody would have thought he would shot, and yet it's
not all coming together. There's this load on the shoulders
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of Patrick Mahomes that's incredible, and he's been carrying it
for more than a year. But now I think this year,
he even said out loud, playoff Pat means running the
ball a little bit more, And I think that is
something that's getting in his mind that he wishes he
didn't think about when he drops back Danny, the first
time he sees any of the opponent's jerseys sticking out
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of his offensive lineman, it seems like that's a trigger
moment to go, I'm getting out of here right now,
and usually I'm thinking about running. The Cowboys had two
chances with a spy right there in front of his face,
and he ran right by him like they were invisible.
That's how good he is or how bad the cal are.
But it really is Patrick Mahomes just doing unbelievable things.
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But he sometimes is leaving the pocket, Danny, when the
pocket is set and ready, and yeah, he should stay
there for two more seconds. I listened to Tony Romo,
not the Thanksgiving Day game, but a game or two
before that, getting a mixedtep because he does almost every game.
But I thought he explained what I've been trying to say.
These are my words, not his, but like there's a
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lot going on in Patrick's mind, and he doesn't seem
comfortable and decisive.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
In hey, this is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
And he even leaves the pocket sometimes when it's really
a good place to be. Just sit in the pocket
and throw the football. So he Patrick's played unbelievable, He's
played great, But Danny, I don't see a precise rhythm
slicing through the defense with this good core of receivers.
Who does he have special connectivity with other than Travis,
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and even they have been a little bit off. But
who do you think, Oh, yeah, that guy that's like
his favorite receiver. I think Watson who played for them
last year. And not this year had a connectivity with Patrick.
He didn't get to play much, but when Patrick ripped
the ball his way, he caught it right. You know,
do you feel that with the other guys. I don't
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even with for she Rice. It's not like those two
guys are on the same page. It seems almost like
training camp or coming off an injury, like this guy's good.
But Patrick and that receiver are not locked in together.
And I'd be awful for me to blame Patrick. But
I think he wants to avoid interceptions. He wants to
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avoid sacks. He knows he needs to run the ball,
and those things are distractions to just sitting in a
pocket and ripping a pass just like it's drawn up
on the computer. We rarely see that. He seems like
he wants to get on the move and make it
almost harder to get done so that he can create
a running possibility or a safety where he knows the
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defenders you can see him. I don't know, but there's
a giant load on Patrick Mahomes right now.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
And it's not just the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
It's even when he had his best starters in there,
he still was.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Moving this year absolutely well. There's I feel like the
Chiefs probably have to go five and oh. I think
they Some people like yourself, I believe but think that
they can make it at four and one, But they
sure as hell can't make it if they don't win
the next game against the Texans. I mean, to me,
that's an absolute must win. It's a conference game, it's
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a tough matchup, they're playing well, they've won five games
in a row. This is a playoff game for the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
I agree with that.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
I absolutely agree with the tiebreakers and all the things
that I've studied. I will start with I'm not one
who says the Chiefs have to go five and oh.
I think four and one will get the job done.
But I don't disagree with your statement as part of
the four wins. In my world, we're five and everybody's
is the Houston game, because that loss and the tie
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breakers that build up on you really do reduce the
probabilities mathematically. And then how about mentally, Hey, we got
this big run.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
And oh we didn't beat Denver. Oh we bet the Colts,
we're back. We're Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Wait and you lose to Dallas and you wait a
week and a half and you lose at home. You know,
the Chiefs haven't been good on the road this year,
kind of a new phenomenon. But at home, you know,
they get the crowd going and have done their work.
If you lose a home game to Houston, basically a
five hundred team, there's no way.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
You can feel good about yourself.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
But even mathematically, I think that's where the real problems
come in.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
If they win that game, and win.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
The Chargers game and lose to Denver, let's say on
Christmas Day, and go four and one, I think the
real story is the Charger schedules really hard, and the
Indianapolis Colts schedules are really hard, and those two teams
can drop, along with other possibilities as well. But those
two teams get drop that we really haven't counted on yet.
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So I think four and one will get it done
for the Chiefs, just because of the stress that's going
to be on other teams down the stretch who aren't
elite teams. But I don't see a way around losing
to Houston, winning the last four and feeling good about
the tiebreakers.
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Speaker 7 (21:08):
Hey, it's really a tough equation because I look.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
At Lance Leippelt and Jayalen Daniels and all they did
for Kansas. You can never do anything if you're logical
an objective other than give him a big hug and
say thank you for all you've done. But isn't college
football or big time athletics crazy because there's a love
hate mentality. Lance Leffeld is five and seven two years
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in a row, lost to Ky State all five of
his years, and fans are looking around saying, you know, hey,
we need to be better than this is what's going on.
And then with Jalen Daniels, what he did to quarterback
this team and have the exciting moments he did are
obviously something that are incredible. Thank you for doing that
work and sticking with your team. But you end the
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season and you end your year kind of the same way.
Last year ended with plays that are unacceptable to winning
from the quarterback position.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And you go away.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I don't know what you think, Danny, it's so hard.
I hate to be tough on him, but Utah is
in trouble case State exposed them if their running game
is awful and they were not very excited and played
really poorly. If you want to say that, and K,
you beat the crap out of them, and K, you
should have won that game. I mean, if I just
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go watch video and you happen to cut out a
couple of bad turnovers, I would just watch a video
and go, yep, K, you buy probably two touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Let's move on and let's watch them different tape.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I mean, K, you played great other than those mistakes,
but man, they let Utah out of jail in the
end on a bad note and a.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Five and seven season, not a bowl game, I mean, just.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
A black cloud just starting to pour rain on what
was a good picnic or something. It's k You did
a lot of good things this year, Jaylen Daniels has
done a lot of great things over the six years.
But that was a disappointing loss because they were better
than Utah, a ranked team. What in the celebration it
would be to beat Utah on.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Senior Day and be able to go to a.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Bowl game when no one thought you were going to
be able to get it done. That would have been
a big celebration. It just didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, it did not. It did happen for Kansas State. However,
on Saturday now it wasn't as easy. Maybe they would
have liked. Colorado was ready to play get some stuff done.
Case State had to sort of grind it out and
wait around, and the Colorado was going to be bad
enough eventually, and they were going to be slightly good
enough with the running game, terrible conditions to play in.
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It still has been a frustrating year for Kansas State,
but not as frustrating as it would have been if
they stubbed their toe on Saturday against Colorado.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Yeah, no one thought about them losing to Colorado. It's
one of those things where you just you make simple statements.
It's Thanksgiving, there's tons of football. You know, you can't
do anything other than quickly state, oh, I know they're
going to win that game.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
And that was a mentality.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Basically, a seventeen point favorite over Colorado, a team that
comes in three and eight. Where was the momentum of
Deon Sanders team? You know what about changing a quarterback.
Juju Lewis was a guy who's a highly touted five
star quarterback who turned into the starting quarterback for Colorado.
They're excited about what he brought. And he said, I'm
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not going to play in this game because I've already
played my four If I played my fifth, I use
a year of eligibility.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
I'm going a red shirt. Deon Sanders took the and said, oh,
I made that decision. Who cares They go away from
the quarterback back to the quarterback that they replaced, And
I'm the only guy in the world probably like I'd
rather play the freshman in the weather conditions. Who's a
passing quarterback and non running threat, and guess what they
put back in the guy who could run and he did, Danny.
He ran the ball well, converted on third downs, Colorado
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give him credit. They played with physicality and case State
finally made the move in the second half to take
a tie game at the half at seven to seven
and score on three straight possessions.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
You can be a.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Disappointed in how the Cats did it, or if you bet,
you know they didn't cover.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
But Danny, one.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Good thing happened is that they for two weeks in
a row played at k State style football of running
the football, and Joe Jackson ran for one hundred and
forty two yards in the ball game. And that's a
second game in a row where case State actually was
able to stick with the running game and effectively.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Play that way. And I think that's important. That's KSE
State football. And in the end, in the game that may.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Have been disappointing, I think that they have even more
conviction going into the ball game and the offseason that
Joe Jackson can run the ball, that the offensive line
can block, and that avery can be a factor in
the passing game. But you don't have to put it
all on his shoulders. Actually, some kind of crazy good
news after the win for case states that they had
to prove it down after down and.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
He stuck with it.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
They said, we're going to be more physical than you
on a day where Colorado played with good physicality.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, a variety of jumbo packages they used, and they
realized it's a windy day, it's going to be tough
to throw. Colorado's fired up, that we could make mistakes
that would keep Colorado in the game or maybe give
him the game. And bringing extra alignment into the huddle
to help block for Jackson, who's a physical and hard
charging runner. That was good job by Matt Wells.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Yeah, it was Villa Rowle is a like you said,
alignment that turned into a tight end. So Casey really
emphasized that. But Joe Jackson is an old school back
where he may not give you a ton of seventy
yard runs.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Oh I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Danny eighty eight eighty yard run, sixty six yard run,
I get.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It against you, but that's not usually what he does.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
No, he's usually just you wear me out and I
play better, you know, Like the defense is getting more
worn out than I am, and I'm.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Getting a good feel.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
He gained the bulk of his one hundred and forty
two yards in the fourth quarter when he really started
to press the outside and implant and cut up field
and read the blocking, and you know that he's like
a player who gets smarter as the game goes on.
Physical like getting hit. Those are things that I thought
he could do going in the season, and he really
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hadn't done a lot of that. But now with his
last two games, Danny, He's over nine hundred yards rushing
over five yards of carry, and I think it's just
good news for KSE State that Joe Jackson is someone
to believe in. Remember, much of the year has been about, oh,
Dylan Edwards isn't playing case State's are designing this outside
zone edge running to get Dylan Edwards going, and I
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thought that that left Joe Jackson out of the mix
a little too much. There's no question where they're going
now and in the future. He's only a sophomore, So
this is good, this good, steady finish for KSE State.
Back to running the football and believing in Joe Jackson.
The opposive line is really a good thing for the
future ball game in into next year.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And speaking of the bowl game, it's sort of a
right passage for Kansas State to people, you know, they
plan on it. It's a yearly vacation. It might be
their only yearly vacation. Maybe this year we're gonna see
less enthusiasm than maybe ever before in the you know,
since Bill Snyder get the program rolling for one of
these lower tier bowls, what do you think, Yeah, that
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may be true.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
There'll be a group that just says, this is our
vacation each year.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
So planning, planning is part of it. But the not being.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Able to practice right today, if you didn't make a
bowl and being available to talk to agents and others
about transfer portal, do you know how much of a
distraction and how that could tear your program apart a
month of nothing of football activities, Just hey, what about
your future? So to have some connectivity with your team
(28:39):
and fight against that transfer portal and try to retain players,
there is nothing better than having a routine, a bowl
game and practice. Okay, then you can also help your
younger players get better by practicing, and you've become part
of this group of teams's discussed Danny, because when we
get the bowl season, you're going to turn on the
game and ESPN's.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Gonna have a game on. There be no fans.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
It's gonna be like a hard Happy Days television production.
You know, it's just going to be a small group
of people. But the game's gonna be on, and no
one's gonna remember if you're nine and three, eight and four,
six and six, the game's gonna start and you're gonna
watch the game. Yeah, you wish you weren't six and six,
but the fact is is you're gonna be talked about,
you're gonna be featured, and you would get.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
A chance to play.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Case has never won three bowl games in a row.
You can kind of mask what this season was like
if the emphasis in the offseason is we got to practice,
we got to go to a bowl game, and we
won our third bowl game in a row. So let's
build on this, let's get going. So there's a lot
of good things that can happen in a lot of
negative things that you avoid. And I will put this
little statement out there for what I believe is true.
(29:45):
It is hard to win college football games. And I
sound like I'm a Chris Climbing marketing firm. Right now,
when I'm getting ready to say this, Dany, get ready
for this. Okay, sixteen teams in the Big Twelve and
this new Big Twelve have been together for two years,
only two years, but we've had stability for two years.
Of sixteen teams right this year, ten of the sixteen
are Bowl eligible. Well, that wouldn't be a big surprise
(30:07):
to you. If I asked you, Danny, how many teams
are Bowl eligible out of sixteen, you'd probably picked ten
something like that. But you know, of the ten teams
that are both eligible right now, four of them were
not Bowl eligible last year. So that means only six
teams out of sixteen teams have been consistent enough in
two years to be Bowl eligible, right and a couple
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teams hadn't made a Bowl in either year. So that
to me is really a good way of looking at this. Yes,
it's disappointing for KSE State compared to what they hoped
and dreamed and believed was going to happen this year,
but it's not bad when you keep yourself in the mix,
and Bowl eligibility is one marker about being in the
mix and getting closer into conference championships or others. I
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get that, but that's pretty amazing to say you're one
of only six schools and that doesn't count the other
years that KSE State's gone bowl.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
After bowl after So yeah, it was important.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
It was important in avoiding disasters.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
One good thing, Danny.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Do you imagine if case State was five and seven
all right going into Thanksgiving?
Speaker 7 (31:08):
No one thought case State was not going to a bowl.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
No one thought Colorado was gonna win. Can you imagine
what it would feel like if they would have lost
to Colorado?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It would have been bad. They also clinched a winning
record in league because a couple of their losses obviously
came out of a league play, so very significant in
that regard to Missouri Tigers, it was nothing to write
home about. In their game, they needed a late punt
return to sort of put the seal on it against Arkansas,
but their defense stepped up again. Arkansas had been scoring
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a lot of points and once again they lean on
Ahmad Hardy to get another victory.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
YEP, just classic game where Arkansas was fired up and
came out playing hard. And I think Arkansas has played
some good football this year.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
I think they're talented.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Bobby Petrino's, you know, a nasty guy who wanted to
beat Missouri as their interim head coach, and so I
thought Arkansas had some dang is to do some things
at home.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
But Missouri just did a great job of.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Saying, no, you know, we got a good running game,
and we're more disciplined than you. We get one great
special teams play, and on a day where I thought
Arkansas played really well and could have upset Missouri very easily,
you end up with the same result. Oh, Missouri wins
these games and Arkansas doesn't. What a story for Arkansas.
They lost ten games, and I think seven of them
(32:25):
were one score or less. I think they broke a
new college football record. They broke a record in college
football for most losses by one score or three points
or whatever it was. They does know how to lose,
and Missouri knows how to win. So credit Missouri. That's
what Missouri does. Beats teams that are unranked.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
They do that, indeed, for sure, And part of that
has been part of the narrative Free Live drink Witz.
But in this uh, you know context, in this landscape
where there's so many jobs open, you can parlay that
into a new contract, and he got yet another one
and he's made over ten million dollars. Now with it
will come I think greater expectations. Ben he kind of
(33:05):
admitted that after the game. He said, we didn't get
to exactly where we wanted to go, and so he's
setting himself up for sort of a playoffs or bus
type of scenario.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, who would have thought eight
figure contracts out there and and an eight and four
team that didn't really beat anybody that they weren't supposed
to beat. But he did a good job of marketing
himself and Missouri smart to want to keep you like
drink woods. But it's amazing how these coaches can turn
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any situation into more money.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
So thank you Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Right, yeah, I think I said seven seven figure. It's
eight figures. Stan knows better. He's an at, he's a
financial guy, he knows better. So at ten million is
eight is eight figures. Indeed, there's a lot of zero's
there and they'll be headed to a good bowl game.
So good times for the Missouri Tigers. Always appreciate the time.
We'll look forward to doing it again next week and
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we'll be likely talking about well, we're talking about the Chiefs,
and we'll see whether we're talking about the off season
or whether the stretch run is going to be good
for them.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Thanks again, Okay, thanks Danny.
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Welcome back, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. A
lot of football that's right up Stan Weber's wheelhouse, and
he had a small gathering at his home. Football was
able to be placed in just the proper spots and
the Dallas Cowboys, of course Stans. That was my boyhood team,
and I rooted for them probably up through two thousand.
I guess I still kind of root for him. Those
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uniforms he run out there in them, and I guess
I start to feel a little bit of rooting interest.
But Stan's is a fan and a fan of the
Chiefs too, so this is always an interesting day. But
it was Cowboys and Chiefs. Cowboys looked great, Dak Prescott
was great. They're wide receivers who are a couple of
world class knuckleheads, but they're unbelievable wide receivers. Victimize the
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Chiefs again and again on third down and fourth down,
and the Chiefs fall thirty one twenty eight Stan and
just not enough. It's been the story of the season.
Not quite enough for the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Yeah, close loss has been many different stories, hasn't there
Danny as of what came him up short? This one
just happened to be a bad matchup with the Dallas Cowboys.
They're used to playing on Thanksgiving Day. They know the routine.
It's year after year after year after year that they
know when they play on Sunday that they're gonna have
to get ready for that Thanksgiving game, you know, so
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they get ready two and three weeks before other teams
that just do it once in a while and have
to go on the road or at the disadvantage.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
I thought the Cowboys would play really good football.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I know, you know that they are hot per se
making a trade beating the Eagles, but really it's just
when the Chiefs walk in, it creates a level of
focus and intensity. And with their owner Jerry Jones, living
right down the street from Clark Hunt, there's all kinds
of day to day activity and respect for each other
(06:50):
or rivalry or whatever you want to say. Those Dallas
residents and the Cowboys players obviously are tracking with what
their owners thinking. I mean, he's more quoted by far
than head coach Brian Schottenheimer. The schotten Himer is doing
a good job, playing calls, calling plays. Dak Prescott's on
fire throwing the football, and the wide receivers are just
(07:11):
absolutely great pickings and lamb are hard to stop. And
the thing about the Chiefs playing against this team, You're
gonna have to deal with that passing game to win
the game, and the Chiefs are gonna have to bring
a blitz to create havoc in the backfield. Chris Jones
is not enough. He worked hard in the game, is
not enough to propression a quarterback. So you're gonna have
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to bring the blitzes. And Dallas had the answer, deep throws, passing, interference,
creating plays, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
It was not a good day to play the.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Cowboys and still the Chiefs almost one, because that's how
good the Kansas City Chiefs are. But it does bring
up a spotlight when we look forward and look at
this Chiefs team, Danny, I think Steve Spagnola and his
blitzing and play calling is the best in the NFL.
I think the tackling of the Chiefs is the best
in the NFL. I think that the execution and leaf
(08:00):
in their coach and trying to do what he wants
him to do is the best in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
But it is not good enough in the passing game
right now.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
The blitz packages are not getting to the quarterback like
they have in the past, and the coverage downfield is
not as elite. Knocking the ball away Trent McDuffie, he's
still unbelievable. But other than that, they're just some good players,
you know, not dominant players. I think they missed Justin Reid,
so a couple of things were shown. Unfortunately, he played
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the Dallas Cowboys when they're going to be excited about
playing the Chiefs for the first time in four years,
and they're a passing team. But the other thing that's
continued on in benefactor here for a number of weeks
is Spagnola's defense is not as great at stopping the
third down plays, getting to the quarterback and not aligning
that complete.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
The pass downfield.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
And that's been a little bit of an achilles heel
for the Chiefs. It's given the other teams just a
slight chance to make a play here or there. We
saw it with bow Knicks in Denver when he got
downfield when the Chiefs bleed and completed some passes. And
Dallas is the wrong team to be messing with if
you're not going to be on point with that blitzing
against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, I think you and I are a little
bit more old school about fourth down and maybe taking
a field goal here or there, or you know, when
you go when you don't go. Andy Reid has been
very aggressive this year, but this game was one of
those ones where you're like, well, do you have a
philosophy or don't you The chief scored on two fourth downs,
but they punted in plus territory four times on fourth down.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Yeah, I don't get it because Andy has flipped the switch.
In my mind, here's a guy who probably more like
you and I when you stated it a little more
old school hunt, get some field position and those kind
of things. Will throw that out the window. If you
just watched Andy Reid this year, he has been as
modern and into analytics as anybody going for fourth down
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in his own territory, you know, going for fourth down
it's the Cowboys, like you said, and paying off with
two touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Rather than two field goals.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I was surprised that he didn't take field goals down there,
other than I've watched him in the last five or
six weeks kick into we're going to go for fourth down.
Then you get to a point I remember specifically a
fourth and four in a late third quarter, and I go, well,
wait a second, the Chiefs have to go here.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
They're trailing punts the ball.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
So it's inconsistent, like I haven't seen because he's gone
to a go for it mentality, and he didn't do
that necessarily every time. Now, sometimes it's fourth and twelve
right at the forty nine going in, and you could
still be counted in your statement that you made.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
You know they're in plus territory. But when you're fourth and.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Four at about the forty four yard line or whatever
it was, I was really surprised that he punted a football.
And I was watching the game with my son, Landry,
who lives in Denver now, and he and I don't
get chance to sit there and watch games together, and
I go, you know, I'm surprised he punted there, especially
to the Cowboys, because I watch.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
The Cowboys so closely.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
They're one of the few teams, maybe like the Chiefs,
but other than the Chiefs, Dallas is the next best.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
In the NFL at not even blinking about a ninety
yard drive.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
They can make a ninety yard drive as well as
a sixty. Dak does not get tired of just grinding
down the field. Dandy, he doesn't. And sure enough, the
Cowboys dropped a slant pass which would have been an
easy first down first time they are backed up, and
the second time they're backed up they did go ninety yards.
And so I was really surprised against the Cowboys, with
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the evans they have in the passing game against the Chiefs,
that Andy didn't go for it there. But hey, he
surprised me right, going for fourth down and scoring two touchdowns,
so I can't track where they were, but we're gonna
have to see how he sorts this all out. I'm
not going to jump all over Andy Reid and criticize him.
It was just interesting to.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
See, well, we had Superman moments again for Patrick Mahomes.
They're asking him to do so much. But I think
maybe the most surprising thing the Chiefs fans is as
the season was playing out and they were getting these
big weapons back, They're like, Oh, as soon as we
get Hollywood Brown and Rashie Rice and all our guys
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out there and Worthy, all, this group's going to be unstoppable.
And then you watch the game and the only guy
you can throw to is Rice. What was going on?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Yeah, the connectivity is not there right now. You thought
you were coming at him with all these factors, and
I'll give you this again, Danny Rashi.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Rice has made some.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Unbelievably good plays, like in the last moments of the
Colts game was unstoppable. But then he's also the guy
who might just drop a pass what he did against
Dallas And is he really a reliable elite receiver or
is he a dangerous weapon? I would call him more
a dangerous weapon, and then you get an Xavier Worthy
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and he can be thought of as a dangerous weapon.
But he hasn't really been laying that out against the
NFL much this year. He hasn't caught those deep passes,
that connectivity hasn't gone there. But he's fast and explosive
in his own way. Travis Kelsey's actually playing better than
anybody would have thought he would shot, and yet it's
not all coming together. There's this load on the shoulders
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of Patrick Mahomes that's incredible, and he's been carrying it
for more than a year. But now I think this year,
he even said out loud, playoff Pat means running the
ball a little bit more, And I think that is
something that's getting in his mind that he wishes he
didn't think about when he drops back Danny, the first
time he sees any of the opponent's jerseys sticking out
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of his offensive lineman, it seems like that's a trigger
moment to go, I'm getting out of here right now,
and usually I'm thinking about running. The Cowboys had two
chances with a spy right there in front of his face,
and he ran right by him like they were invisible.
That's how good he is or how bad the cal are.
But it really is Patrick Mahomes just doing unbelievable things.
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But he sometimes is leaving the pocket, Danny, when the
pocket is set and ready, and yeah, he should stay
there for two more seconds. I listened to Tony Romo,
not the Thanksgiving Day game, but a game or two
before that, getting a mixedtep because he does almost every game.
But I thought he explained what I've been trying to say.
These are my words, not his, but like there's a
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lot going on in Patrick's mind, and he doesn't seem
comfortable and decisive.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
In hey, this is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
And he even leaves the pocket sometimes when it's really
a good place to be. Just sit in the pocket
and throw the football. So he Patrick's played unbelievable, He's
played great, But Danny, I don't see a precise rhythm
slicing through the defense with this good core of receivers.
Who does he have special connectivity with other than Travis,
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and even they have been a little bit off. But
who do you think, Oh, yeah, that guy that's like
his favorite receiver. I think Watson who played for them
last year. And not this year had a connectivity with Patrick.
He didn't get to play much, but when Patrick ripped
the ball his way, he caught it right. You know,
do you feel that with the other guys. I don't
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even with for she Rice. It's not like those two
guys are on the same page. It seems almost like
training camp or coming off an injury, like this guy's good.
But Patrick and that receiver are not locked in together.
And I'd be awful for me to blame Patrick. But
I think he wants to avoid interceptions. He wants to
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avoid sacks. He knows he needs to run the ball,
and those things are distractions to just sitting in a
pocket and ripping a pass just like it's drawn up
on the computer. We rarely see that. He seems like
he wants to get on the move and make it
almost harder to get done so that he can create
a running possibility or a safety where he knows the
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defenders you can see him. I don't know, but there's
a giant load on Patrick Mahomes right now.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
And it's not just the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
It's even when he had his best starters in there,
he still was.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Moving this year absolutely well. There's I feel like the
Chiefs probably have to go five and oh. I think
they Some people like yourself, I believe but think that
they can make it at four and one, But they
sure as hell can't make it if they don't win
the next game against the Texans. I mean, to me,
that's an absolute must win. It's a conference game, it's
(16:29):
a tough matchup, they're playing well, they've won five games
in a row. This is a playoff game for the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
I agree with that.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
I absolutely agree with the tiebreakers and all the things
that I've studied. I will start with I'm not one
who says the Chiefs have to go five and oh.
I think four and one will get the job done.
But I don't disagree with your statement as part of
the four wins. In my world, we're five and everybody's
is the Houston game, because that loss and the tie
(16:59):
breakers that build up on you really do reduce the
probabilities mathematically. And then how about mentally, Hey, we got
this big run.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
And oh we didn't beat Denver. Oh we bet the Colts,
we're back. We're Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Wait and you lose to Dallas and you wait a
week and a half and you lose at home. You know,
the Chiefs haven't been good on the road this year,
kind of a new phenomenon. But at home, you know,
they get the crowd going and have done their work.
If you lose a home game to Houston, basically a
five hundred team, there's no way.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
You can feel good about yourself.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
But even mathematically, I think that's where the real problems
come in.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
If they win that game, and win.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
The Chargers game and lose to Denver, let's say on
Christmas Day, and go four and one, I think the
real story is the Charger schedules really hard, and the
Indianapolis Colts schedules are really hard, and those two teams
can drop, along with other possibilities as well. But those
two teams get drop that we really haven't counted on yet.
(17:54):
So I think four and one will get it done
for the Chiefs, just because of the stress that's going
to be on other teams down the stretch who aren't
elite teams. But I don't see a way around losing
to Houston, winning the last four and feeling good about
the tiebreakers.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
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Speaker 7 (21:08):
Hey, it's really a tough equation because I look.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
At Lance Leippelt and Jayalen Daniels and all they did
for Kansas. You can never do anything if you're logical
an objective other than give him a big hug and
say thank you for all you've done. But isn't college
football or big time athletics crazy because there's a love
hate mentality. Lance Leffeld is five and seven two years
(21:31):
in a row, lost to Ky State all five of
his years, and fans are looking around saying, you know, hey,
we need to be better than this is what's going on.
And then with Jalen Daniels, what he did to quarterback
this team and have the exciting moments he did are
obviously something that are incredible. Thank you for doing that
work and sticking with your team. But you end the
(21:53):
season and you end your year kind of the same way.
Last year ended with plays that are unacceptable to winning
from the quarterback position.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And you go away.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I don't know what you think, Danny, it's so hard.
I hate to be tough on him, but Utah is
in trouble case State exposed them if their running game
is awful and they were not very excited and played
really poorly. If you want to say that, and K,
you beat the crap out of them, and K, you
should have won that game. I mean, if I just
(22:24):
go watch video and you happen to cut out a
couple of bad turnovers, I would just watch a video
and go, yep, K, you buy probably two touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Let's move on and let's watch them different tape.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I mean, K, you played great other than those mistakes,
but man, they let Utah out of jail in the
end on a bad note and a.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Five and seven season, not a bowl game, I mean, just.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
A black cloud just starting to pour rain on what
was a good picnic or something. It's k You did
a lot of good things this year, Jaylen Daniels has
done a lot of great things over the six years.
But that was a disappointing loss because they were better
than Utah, a ranked team. What in the celebration it
would be to beat Utah on.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Senior Day and be able to go to a.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Bowl game when no one thought you were going to
be able to get it done. That would have been
a big celebration. It just didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, it did not. It did happen for Kansas State. However,
on Saturday now it wasn't as easy. Maybe they would
have liked. Colorado was ready to play get some stuff done.
Case State had to sort of grind it out and
wait around, and the Colorado was going to be bad
enough eventually, and they were going to be slightly good
enough with the running game, terrible conditions to play in.
(23:37):
It still has been a frustrating year for Kansas State,
but not as frustrating as it would have been if
they stubbed their toe on Saturday against Colorado.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Yeah, no one thought about them losing to Colorado. It's
one of those things where you just you make simple statements.
It's Thanksgiving, there's tons of football. You know, you can't
do anything other than quickly state, oh, I know they're
going to win that game.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
And that was a mentality.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Basically, a seventeen point favorite over Colorado, a team that
comes in three and eight. Where was the momentum of
Deon Sanders team? You know what about changing a quarterback.
Juju Lewis was a guy who's a highly touted five
star quarterback who turned into the starting quarterback for Colorado.
They're excited about what he brought. And he said, I'm
(24:19):
not going to play in this game because I've already
played my four If I played my fifth, I use
a year of eligibility.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
I'm going a red shirt. Deon Sanders took the and said, oh,
I made that decision. Who cares They go away from
the quarterback back to the quarterback that they replaced, And
I'm the only guy in the world probably like I'd
rather play the freshman in the weather conditions. Who's a
passing quarterback and non running threat, and guess what they
put back in the guy who could run and he did, Danny.
He ran the ball well, converted on third downs, Colorado
(24:47):
give him credit. They played with physicality and case State
finally made the move in the second half to take
a tie game at the half at seven to seven
and score on three straight possessions.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
You can be a.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Disappointed in how the Cats did it, or if you bet,
you know they didn't cover.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
But Danny, one.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Good thing happened is that they for two weeks in
a row played at k State style football of running
the football, and Joe Jackson ran for one hundred and
forty two yards in the ball game. And that's a
second game in a row where case State actually was
able to stick with the running game and effectively.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Play that way. And I think that's important. That's KSE
State football. And in the end, in the game that may.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Have been disappointing, I think that they have even more
conviction going into the ball game and the offseason that
Joe Jackson can run the ball, that the offensive line
can block, and that avery can be a factor in
the passing game. But you don't have to put it
all on his shoulders. Actually, some kind of crazy good
news after the win for case states that they had
to prove it down after down and.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
He stuck with it.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
They said, we're going to be more physical than you
on a day where Colorado played with good physicality.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, a variety of jumbo packages they used, and they
realized it's a windy day, it's going to be tough
to throw. Colorado's fired up, that we could make mistakes
that would keep Colorado in the game or maybe give
him the game. And bringing extra alignment into the huddle
to help block for Jackson, who's a physical and hard
charging runner. That was good job by Matt Wells.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Yeah, it was Villa Rowle is a like you said,
alignment that turned into a tight end. So Casey really
emphasized that. But Joe Jackson is an old school back
where he may not give you a ton of seventy
yard runs.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Oh I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Danny eighty eight eighty yard run, sixty six yard run,
I get.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It against you, but that's not usually what he does.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
No, he's usually just you wear me out and I
play better, you know, Like the defense is getting more
worn out than I am, and I'm.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Getting a good feel.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
He gained the bulk of his one hundred and forty
two yards in the fourth quarter when he really started
to press the outside and implant and cut up field
and read the blocking, and you know that he's like
a player who gets smarter as the game goes on.
Physical like getting hit. Those are things that I thought
he could do going in the season, and he really
(27:05):
hadn't done a lot of that. But now with his
last two games, Danny, He's over nine hundred yards rushing
over five yards of carry, and I think it's just
good news for KSE State that Joe Jackson is someone
to believe in. Remember, much of the year has been about, oh,
Dylan Edwards isn't playing case State's are designing this outside
zone edge running to get Dylan Edwards going, and I
(27:27):
thought that that left Joe Jackson out of the mix
a little too much. There's no question where they're going
now and in the future. He's only a sophomore, So
this is good, this good, steady finish for KSE State.
Back to running the football and believing in Joe Jackson.
The opposive line is really a good thing for the
future ball game in into next year.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And speaking of the bowl game, it's sort of a
right passage for Kansas State to people, you know, they
plan on it. It's a yearly vacation. It might be
their only yearly vacation. Maybe this year we're gonna see
less enthusiasm than maybe ever before in the you know,
since Bill Snyder get the program rolling for one of
these lower tier bowls, what do you think, Yeah, that
(28:06):
may be true.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
There'll be a group that just says, this is our
vacation each year.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
So planning, planning is part of it. But the not being.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Able to practice right today, if you didn't make a
bowl and being available to talk to agents and others
about transfer portal, do you know how much of a
distraction and how that could tear your program apart a
month of nothing of football activities, Just hey, what about
your future? So to have some connectivity with your team
(28:39):
and fight against that transfer portal and try to retain players,
there is nothing better than having a routine, a bowl
game and practice. Okay, then you can also help your
younger players get better by practicing, and you've become part
of this group of teams's discussed Danny, because when we
get the bowl season, you're going to turn on the
game and ESPN's.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Gonna have a game on. There be no fans.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
It's gonna be like a hard Happy Days television production.
You know, it's just going to be a small group
of people. But the game's gonna be on, and no
one's gonna remember if you're nine and three, eight and four,
six and six, the game's gonna start and you're gonna
watch the game. Yeah, you wish you weren't six and six,
but the fact is is you're gonna be talked about,
you're gonna be featured, and you would get.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
A chance to play.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Case has never won three bowl games in a row.
You can kind of mask what this season was like
if the emphasis in the offseason is we got to practice,
we got to go to a bowl game, and we
won our third bowl game in a row. So let's
build on this, let's get going. So there's a lot
of good things that can happen in a lot of
negative things that you avoid. And I will put this
little statement out there for what I believe is true.
(29:45):
It is hard to win college football games. And I
sound like I'm a Chris Climbing marketing firm. Right now,
when I'm getting ready to say this, Dany, get ready
for this. Okay, sixteen teams in the Big Twelve and
this new Big Twelve have been together for two years,
only two years, but we've had stability for two years.
Of sixteen teams right this year, ten of the sixteen
are Bowl eligible. Well, that wouldn't be a big surprise
(30:07):
to you. If I asked you, Danny, how many teams
are Bowl eligible out of sixteen, you'd probably picked ten
something like that. But you know, of the ten teams
that are both eligible right now, four of them were
not Bowl eligible last year. So that means only six
teams out of sixteen teams have been consistent enough in
two years to be Bowl eligible, right and a couple
(30:28):
teams hadn't made a Bowl in either year. So that
to me is really a good way of looking at this. Yes,
it's disappointing for KSE State compared to what they hoped
and dreamed and believed was going to happen this year,
but it's not bad when you keep yourself in the mix,
and Bowl eligibility is one marker about being in the
mix and getting closer into conference championships or others. I
(30:52):
get that, but that's pretty amazing to say you're one
of only six schools and that doesn't count the other
years that KSE State's gone bowl.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
After bowl after So yeah, it was important.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
It was important in avoiding disasters.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
One good thing, Danny.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Do you imagine if case State was five and seven
all right going into Thanksgiving?
Speaker 7 (31:08):
No one thought case State was not going to a bowl.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
No one thought Colorado was gonna win. Can you imagine
what it would feel like if they would have lost
to Colorado?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It would have been bad. They also clinched a winning
record in league because a couple of their losses obviously
came out of a league play, so very significant in
that regard to Missouri Tigers, it was nothing to write
home about. In their game, they needed a late punt
return to sort of put the seal on it against Arkansas,
but their defense stepped up again. Arkansas had been scoring
(31:39):
a lot of points and once again they lean on
Ahmad Hardy to get another victory.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
YEP, just classic game where Arkansas was fired up and
came out playing hard. And I think Arkansas has played
some good football this year.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
I think they're talented.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Bobby Petrino's, you know, a nasty guy who wanted to
beat Missouri as their interim head coach, and so I
thought Arkansas had some dang is to do some things
at home.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
But Missouri just did a great job of.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Saying, no, you know, we got a good running game,
and we're more disciplined than you. We get one great
special teams play, and on a day where I thought
Arkansas played really well and could have upset Missouri very easily,
you end up with the same result. Oh, Missouri wins
these games and Arkansas doesn't. What a story for Arkansas.
They lost ten games, and I think seven of them
(32:25):
were one score or less. I think they broke a
new college football record. They broke a record in college
football for most losses by one score or three points
or whatever it was. They does know how to lose,
and Missouri knows how to win. So credit Missouri. That's
what Missouri does. Beats teams that are unranked.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
They do that, indeed, for sure, And part of that
has been part of the narrative Free Live drink Witz.
But in this uh, you know context, in this landscape
where there's so many jobs open, you can parlay that
into a new contract, and he got yet another one
and he's made over ten million dollars. Now with it
will come I think greater expectations. Ben he kind of
(33:05):
admitted that after the game. He said, we didn't get
to exactly where we wanted to go, and so he's
setting himself up for sort of a playoffs or bus
type of scenario.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, who would have thought eight
figure contracts out there and and an eight and four
team that didn't really beat anybody that they weren't supposed
to beat. But he did a good job of marketing
himself and Missouri smart to want to keep you like
drink woods. But it's amazing how these coaches can turn
(33:37):
any situation into more money.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
So thank you Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Right, yeah, I think I said seven seven figure. It's
eight figures. Stan knows better. He's an at, he's a
financial guy, he knows better. So at ten million is
eight is eight figures. Indeed, there's a lot of zero's
there and they'll be headed to a good bowl game.
So good times for the Missouri Tigers. Always appreciate the time.
We'll look forward to doing it again next week and
(34:03):
we'll be likely talking about well, we're talking about the Chiefs,
and we'll see whether we're talking about the off season
or whether the stretch run is going to be good
for them.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Thanks again, Okay, thanks Danny.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
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