September 19, 2025 • 44 mins
The banter boys have football problems to solve and analyze. The Chiefs look flat and need to do something about it Sunday night, Mizzou looks to keep the roll going, Kansas gets back in action while the Wildcats gets get a needed breather. Also trivia fun, and the usual enjoyable detours to enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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That sounds like a plan, because that's I want it
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about Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I think I am now I have decided I like
the lights. I look forward to the day when we
can just have the lights up year round and just
change the colors based upon a holiday. I'd like some red,
white and blue lights around the fourth of July and
whatnot some orange and black lights, you know, for Halloween.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
But I am now of the opinion.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
If we can get the lights on, I'm tired of
people pissing and moaning about what about Thanksgiving? Have your
meal and shut up. My lights are going on on
November one. If I can make it happen, well, we
shall see.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
We'll find out. I said you wanted to be first,
we do. Well, there you go. Yeah, well we want
to be second. Okay, that's fine, actually be said. Actually
I'm good with I don't really like the lights to
be on that soon. I am a I would probably
given the choice. We may not have that choice, but
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given the choice, I would probably throw the lights on
the day after that.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You can put them up and just not turn them on, right,
put them right minor minor going on at midnight Halloween night.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Okay, if I can make that happen, that's what I want.
I am somewhat in the camp of whatever happened to
poor Thanksgiving. It's like Halloween is like a super big
deal to people, and then.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And that starts on July.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Fair.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I think it's Thanksgiving is so like out of it
that they can't even wait for the day to end
before it's Christmas already.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
That's right. It's like, I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What do you what do you want to properly observe Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the whining
about Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I really am.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What do you well? I'm just saying, for those that
are on, how do we do that? How would you
like me.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
To do that? What? What would you like me to do?
I think I think it's more. I think it's more
the Christmas overkill rather than the Thanksgiving. I love Christmas,
but you know, having Christmas stuff going on before Thanksgiving
to me is a little bit of.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Overkilling because it's a month. Those of us that want
to get after it get out.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Of our way. I didn't say you couldn't Christmas shop
put a Christmas smile on your face.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Aren't the art the radio stations already playing the Christmas music?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I wouldn't. I don't know if it's yet, but it's early.
You walk through sometimes I'm I'm jarred by like I'm
a hark.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The Herald Angels sing.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Well more Christmas earlier. That's that's my platform I'm running on.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Here you go.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
You know there you have it, Danny, Please run do
what run on any platform? Just run? Please? Al frank
I better stop talking. King. Yes.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Alf Franklin once wrote a book where his he is
like why not me?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Why not? Alf? Frankin.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
It was the whole thing was his presidential candidates. He
was going to be based on eliminating at M fees.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Howard entire platform.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Howard Stern was getting traction for mayor of New York City,
and he was going on, he was going to eliminate,
it's gonna throw whatever budget there was was going to
go to fixing potholes. And what was the other was
potholes and something else he had. He had two things.
He goes, I don't care, I will pull money from
whatever I'm going to fix these two things.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Harry Truman getting traction. Harry Truman won his first political
office by promising to fix the roads.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, okay, launch launch the president.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
When I have more time, maybe I will. Uh, you
know everyone thinks so I think I'll do it. No,
you don't want to do it, trust me now, it's uh,
it's hard work. So anyway, Danny, let let's let's start
with this. When are you going to hold Brett Beach's
feet for the fire? When when are you going to
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do a bit of an overstatement.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
But tell me how you're gonna do it? And well,
physically holding his feet to the fire sounds like I
think the reaction, I beach would kick your Yeah, I
think he probably would, and also you'd get arrested. So
not interested in that. We're trying to set the man
on fire, right, yeah, holding him physically in front of
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a logs burning, trying to get his feet in there.
It sounds like a crime to me. But the only
crime against humanity is the fact that he's his his
team looks like he hasn't worked for the last two
years except for his Hey Pat, can you save the day?
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But obviously you think it's been that bad? Oh yeah, yeah,
I mean it is this sole narrative of I mean,
these games were border line ass kickings. They just the
score ended up looking better, and much of it was
because of really, you know, obviously made a couple of
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bad throws early in the game. But Mahomes has been
heroic in these two games, and they have not been close,
only in the score, and they've not looked like a
good football team period. You know, you can moan and grown.
One of my favorites is I'm watching the replay and
seeing people on Twitter just losing their minds about the
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Eagles are false starting on the tush push, and I'm
looking at the screen with Chris Jones is lying to
clearly lined up off side on that play. So it
was like, what are we complaining about here?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, I don't think they were a couple of calls
on the tush push away from winning.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I've pointed out that with five minutes ago, they were
down two scores in both of their first two games, right,
I mean they have scored to make them one score games.
It is not a one score game that the other
team finished it the end to you know, come from
behind and take it away from them. So I do
agree that there are issues that need to be solved.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
And there are explanations. I mean, you you're up, you're
down to top receivers, but you know, teams deal with
bad injuries all the time. Now these are in the
area where the Chiefs are looking the worst. Right now.
They've played one outstanding defensive football game. I mean, you
get all these defending Super Bowl champions two hundred and
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sixteen yards, you've done your work. So and the thing is,
it's it's like, well, now we're gonna rev up here.
Now we're gonna so losing the Super Bowl and getting
ready for Opening Day, what didn't get the fire burning right,
and then your home opener after you got beat on
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opening day, that didn't get your fire going.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So now Oho and two's going to do it. I
am with you, and I think that's part of the
reason why the number is at five and a half
and why people are betting the Chiefs and they're still
not moving off of it, because I think that's the
view that the oddsmakers have of it, like, well, why
is this Like now they're gonna bring it? What about
the giant says, Oh, let's let's go get it. So
(09:17):
now they might, Yeah, they might. I'd stand by the
statement that I don't think the tush push calls would
have given the win to the Chiefs, but if Travis
Kelce catches the ball, oh sure that might. So that's
why I say, I don't know, Like if you're talking
about a great defensive effort, I don't know understand.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I can say they're playing just awful. I said one good,
one good. So in four games the unit games, two games,
four units, four units of offense and defense, they played
one very good one out of four. The other three
have not been good. And I have fear that the
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one thing that we've seen, which is that Holmes has
been under constant duress in these games. Is one area
where the Giants are actually good. So you know, the
pass rush is excellent, so they have excellent talent.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Their actual pass rush win rate and all that kind
of stuff isn't isn't at the top of the chart
or anything.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Burns is leading the league in pressures and he has
three sacks, so.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And then the here end of the story, right, because
that's you're right, he has been good, but the rest
not not so much. But I that doesn't mean that
the Chiefs can't wake them from that slumber and allow
that talent to shine. Yeah, I look, I I do
think that this game is really really important because I
don't see while they won't be mathematically eliminated.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, I'm sure you saw the stat since two and
seventeen teams have started oh to three and one has.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Made the playoff. Yeah, the and two stat that Curtis had,
which like, did you hear Curtis's breakdown or we get
all the way down to well, if you were a
Super Bowl team that started owing too, you're one hundred
percent to make the playoffs. It's two for two, yeah, right,
but none of them are gone over three, right, and
so it is this is the critical juncture. And it's
not that it's the one game, it's that it will
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be that for three games you couldn't figure it out.
And I think that's that's the thing for me, Like,
mathematically they won't be dead, but there's no reason to
believe that over the next fourteen games you're going to
consistently play well enough to win enough games or just
flat out be good enough to beat four playoff teams.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Like especially when the third the third would be precincts
are in. The third would be against a team that's
pretty much a laughingstock, the Giants. Yea, the third failure
would be against the Giants, So yeah, it'd be it'd
beat absolute panic time, you know, absolutely. Now that being said,
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I think they're going to win the game. I think
it might be. I think it might be not pretty,
but who cares. The style points will not matter Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And I think that's one of the things they need
to do. Like what do you make of Matt Naggi saying, well,
we're still trying to find our identity.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I think it's an unfortunate man trying to answer a
question and using a phrase that makes him look like
he doesn't know what his job is. I mean, what
your identity is to move the football? Who cares? For instance,
what was that the game last night set the record
for the fewest air yards combined by two teams in
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the history of the NFL.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
History of the next the net gen stats right about
at sixteen when one starts average yards.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Right, and they, you know, through two balls past the
Josh Allen through you know, more bald behind the line
of scrimmage than he did passed, and they've scored thirty
one points? So who cares about your identity move the ball? Well,
I mean, I think that's where.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I think you could translate it if we were behind
closed doors and just amongst the coaches what works. We're
trying to find what works right.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And also I think there is a concerted effort to
make part of that identity throwing the football deep. And
now it just kind of seems like they're just do
it to do it, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yes, I think there's some of that, but I think
that is part of the reason why you do it,
is to force them to guard you.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You don't expect if you throw the ball down feel
deep eight times. You don't expect to get six of them.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I mean a if you don't try it all the
Raiders do what they did on Christmas to a couple
of years ago. They don't even play the long ball.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, there's an element of like squad and shorts, you
stick the jab. You know it's not going to knock
them out, but you need them to defend it so
that they bring their gloves down and then you knock
them out. The problem is that there's a little bit
of battery and backwards on that in the sense that
what everybody else in the league is doing is running
effectively to get them to put their hands down on
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the deep ball and then beating them all over the top.
And the other thing is there is none of an
intermediate passing game. They're either humming it down the field,
oftentimes as a show piece to show you we'll do
it early later on when the team gets aggressive and
is up to scores. Then they've been effective and been
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able to hit a couple of those, but they have
nothing going in the intermediate. Everything is all these bubbles,
screens and quick slants and which I'm all for. I mean,
I beat the drum for where is a slant a
few years ago? Because I think it, because that to
me is the extension of the running game. Let's run it,
let's screen it, let's slant it. And now we've got
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the safeties walking forward right, and now we can get
behind and get some one on ones down the field,
and we can hit some big plays. But they can't
even whether it's a lack of either belief in the
protection or just they can't protect long enough to even
get the ball to fifteen yards. You can throw a
deep ball with bad protection.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I mean you can just take the snap, wait a
couple of beats and heave it and let the guy run.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
If you throw the rainbows that Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Does, you can throw a pretty deep ball.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You can also move the pocket like there's other things
that they're not doing, like roll him out with the
designed move of the pocket, put him under center, pound
away on inside runs, and then play action off the
inside run Gunther Cunningham is still waking up with nightmares
in heaven. Uh from Mike Shanahan, the rollout, the what
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they call it the quarterback roll. Well, but yeah it anyway,
the naked buleg destroyed gun their cunning Ham because he
was so hell bent on getting up the field and
stopping the run and doing all that. Like they the
Chiefs don't even try it. They don't try it because
they don't set it up. They don't run just a
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nice little dive play or a power run, you know,
pull the guard you know, out in front and come
off the other guards hip, and you know, then their back.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Just runs into the butt of his offensive lineman. Well
that is I mean, I think the hold to the
right of it.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think there And I'll tell you what Sam McDowell
asked Matt and Aggie this week about you know, were
there yards left out there?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And Matt Aggie acknowledged it.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I mean like, yeah, you know, I don't think he
wanted to say, Well, were like what is he doing?
And how have you consistently had running backs that just
don't grasp where the hole is? Well, unfortunately Clyde ebergs
Hlire seemed to hand that batond Isaiah Pacheco.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Right, and then the fact that you have looks like
he does have some vision, can't get to where he
sees right, Oh there's a hole, Well it's gone. Now
These old laced make it to the hole in time.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, Pa Checko runs right up before the hole has
even appeared.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Right, that's the flip side of it. Well, I've never
I mean you've heard it here. I've never thought that
much of Pacheco. I think he's all flash, no dash.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think there's more motion than progress for sure, Right,
But I think he's service. What I can't figure out
is how he's four years into the Andy Reid offense
and he's not a better receiver.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Right? How how has this happened? I don't think he's
an instinctual football player. I don't either. I think he's
a good athlete.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean, I to which there's a reason why
he was there in the seventh round. How does a
guy who runs sub four four what did.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
He even run?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Like four three seven or something like that? Runs four
to three seven and he's there in the seventh round
and then you look like, how did he average like
three point eight yards carrier seat his senior year? And
it's like now you see it, like you're gonna have
to block it perfectly?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, four three seven at the comebine, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And he has no fifteen yard runs none? Right, I
mean there's plenty, plenty of blame to go around, but
they got to figure out what he is.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And I and I, well, there's there's a bit there's
a Brett Beach thing there. They they did ride with well,
they did bring in Mitchell, but that was bad about
and they draft Smith right, but that was they didn't
make a real investment. Now, I heard you the other
day say, you know you don't want to you know, still,
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even though the running game has become more in vogue
in the national football you still want to don't want
to throw high picks at it. But that doesn't mean
you want to throw no picks at it. Or maybe
a third or fourth round.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
They've thrown two sevens in five years right at the position. Right.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
That's and it's almost like you didn't see the change
coming type of thing, you know, because maybe you know
it's a copycat league. Maybe that was just it, but
maybe just the champs had a two thousand yard rusher.
But I mean this was starting to come a couple
of years ago and the chief seemed to kind of
ignore it. But Andy Reid's never been you know, somebody
really loves to run the football, period in his whole
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career and that, and he was ahead of the curve
and being that person.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So the problem is he was ahead of the curve
and doing that that was the right thing to do.
But now now the right thing to do is to
run on these pass defenses. Yes, and he it's like
he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Oh, he's he's coached two poor games. You can just
say it for his team, hasn't been emotional prepared, They've
made mistakes, didn't adjust him much, right, I mean it's
it's not been good. So it is. And his game plan.
He is the let's face it, he's the offensive coordinator.
I mean he is. Are you holding his feet to
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the fire? Dan, Well, no, he's he's heavy. I couldn't
he definitely couldn't lift him and hold his feet to
the fire. But do you do you think it's done?
Do you think Amy reach? No? I don't think that.
I mean I need I need a hell of a
lot more evidence than two games that games passed him
by whatever, But they he's You're not in the running
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for coach of the Year at this point in time.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I'd be interested to know what ideas Naggy's bringing, what
ideas Read's bringing. Does Reid need to, you know, maybe
graduate to more of a CEO type.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Do they need to fire Mattnaggy. I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Andy Reid is the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
But if you're like, oh, he's significant, yes, But if.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You say, okay, well listen, we like everything, but we
need fresh ideas. We're going to go get this quarterback
coach from Sean McVay and let's get some ideas in here.
Then I am open to the idea that Matt Naggie
might need to go because they've got too much invested
in the offensive side of the ball right now for
it to not work at all. Something will have to change,
whether it's Andy Hack, Matt Naggy, Andy Reid not calling
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the plays.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Some people he's not as familiar with.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I mean he's comfortable with. I mean, even though they
you know, shipped off Joe Toney, there's still their offensive
line is going to be among the highest paid in
the league. I would think I'll have to look. But
to run the football like that and that much money
invested in the line, that's that's asy.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
And the two that aren't making a boatload are we're
super high draft picks. I mean they're high, but one
is the second. It's a late second in the late
first the capital capital and draft capital. That thing needs
to be good, right And.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
By the way, when you see Simmons track down a
defensive back, there's no lack of athleticism. Andy, heck better
make him bad ass by the end of the year.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Well, the that's the way the chief season has gone
so far. That turned out to be a bad play.
If he just scored a touchdown, they would have saved
like six minutes. They scored on that drive, Yeah they did. Yeah,
and it took a.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
While to do it, Like, why didn't you just slow down?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Buddy?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
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Integrity matter all right?
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Very nice. Let me stand next to Year for five
trying to remember the day.
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answer how many professed menu?
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Oh yeah, I can't wait.
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Jambo Bravarian Pretzel.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
I just ate one in my just in my mind.
How many players have won both the MVP and the
World Series in back to back seasons? Been what MVP
and what and the World Series in back to back
seasons in back to back now back to back years
where they won both.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh, also they're back to back MVPs and back. Well,
there's only been like yoga over thirteen guys that have
won back to back MVPs.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Right, Yogi, they didn't win either year that he won
back to back fifty four and fifty five. Roger Merris
was close. They lost in sad damn musial.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
That's a good guess. Uh hmmm. Braves didn't win to
win a row, did they? I mean Dale Dren Braves Murphy.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Dale Murphy is the one who did it. Yeah, won
back to back in a Braves uniform. Yeah, and they
never won with him, well, Murphy, Merritt, Marris.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
No, they lost in sixty they would have had the Murphy.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Marris and Mantle are the back to back with the
first back then outfield.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
He won and fifty seven they lost in fifty Barrack
was the catcher. How new Houser was the pitcher. Yeah,
they didn't win. Jimmy Fox was first base they went
back to back. Yep, they didn't win.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Second base was Joe Morgan.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Joe Morgan. Joe Morgan shortstop. Was there any banks? They
never won? The third was SI they won one just
Joe Morgan, just Joe Morgan the only guy to beat.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
And then PS and somebody else has done it since. Yeah,
there for a while, do you know, it was the
greatest Trivy question of all time? Nine guys had won
back to back and they were different nine positions.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Right, Yeah, that is pretty cool. That was great, and then.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Stupid Frank Thomas had screw it up. Was Frank Thomas
who did it first, and then Bonds did it, and
then Poohls did it, and Joe Trout's done it and.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Joe Morgan and Tom Seaver. I'm glad they did it before.
The newest edition of the film at the Hall of Fame,
which I saw last week, was done just before both
of those guys passed, so they're in it. Cool. That
film is great. I mean, the whole museum was great.
To go back there and see everything.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You know, the best time, by the way, I will
and I'm I did not when we were talking about
that didn't even connect with me that I was going
to be gone last Friday, Preparent's weekend. But like we're
about ready to be the perfect time to go to
the Baseball Fame because the fall and upstate New York
is outsanding.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
The leaves were just starting to turn a little bit,
like they were literally turned in the four days some
and I was there. The drive about three four weeks.
It'll be perfect.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
The drive from Cooperstown back to where where we were staying.
Like around the New York Pennsylvania border, I'd never seen
so much green, and all I could think of was
what would this place look like in October.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
No matter where, you can fly into Syracuse or Albany
or New York City, and whatevery way you go in
is a.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Beautiful You fly in Scranton. That's what I'd recommend flying Scranton.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
There's no reason to go to Scranton and go to
Duffler Mender or what Isner Mifflin.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Dunder Mifflin, check out dunder Mifflin.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
My memory of Scranton, which I drove through many times
on the way back and forth to college, is they
have the world's largest or did at one time, a
whole mountain side covered with flattened cars, like thousands of
car Remember that we car debris on the side of
a mountain. We go the guys who lived in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
The route to go back to New York City was
through Scranton, and so I went through Scranton a number
of times doing that.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Sounds like a city with Scranton. Scramton's oh beautiful Scranton.
You can't even say it and not sound would sound
that way, right, it's very model.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, it is a bit of a geography lesson because
it reminds you, oh yeah, Pennsylvania's right here.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Okay, that's right, and then poor Wilkesbury, you know, gets
mentioned after scrant you know, and usually your second Scranton,
your second is suffering.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, uh, not suffering of the Missouri Tiger. No, they
they're laying now still nine and a half, even with
South Carolina expected to have its quarterback playing. Are they
a just as good as they've been the last couple
of years? They sure have looked it.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
But you know, it's really just against Kansas, right, and
we just like we said, we don't have a real
pulse on Kansas, shet. So I think with Kansas playing
West Virginia, which played a good game last week in Missouri,
playing the South Carolina team which was a borderline top
ten for sure, top ten team. I think we're going
to get a real They go out and win this
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game by the cover the number, I'm convinced. You know,
does that mean they're not gonna, you know, go roll
Alabama or whatever. No, but they've run the football, they've
shut people down. Quarterback looks good. There's no reason to
not think they're good except to sample size and quality
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of opposition is still in doubt. I think Kansas is
going to be pretty good football team. So and I
think we do think the South Carolina is a good team,
whether they got punked last week or not. There's you know,
the reaction to losing your quarterback within the game is
more difficult probably than even knowing he's not going to
be there before the game, and then this case, he's
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probably gonna at least start. But they were a borderline
top ten team, So I'm bullish right now. But like
I said, it's early, and this is a is a
big game and they're expected. That's the other thing to me.
Anecdotally through the Ears and Curtis you can you know
you're the Missouri fan here, it seems like Missouri has
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always been at their worst when they were supposed to
do something. You know, a little bit of chip on
their shoulders.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Two years ago wasn't supposed to be what it was,
and then everyone expected a regression last year and they
won ten games. They were expecting a regression again.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
This year, right, So I think that that's basketball and football.
It seems like when there's been a lot of expectations
or they're just getting a little high and mighty, that's
when there was a fall. This team seems to be
wired right. Maybe maybe part of it is that I
think they the team. Eli Drinkwitz is such a lightning
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rod type of figure. I think he takes a lot
of pressure off his team.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I think I think if Missouri loses and you don't
like him, you're like, haha, drink Witz, you know, like
new quarterback stinks. You know, it's like, drink Witz eat this.
You know. So I think he takes pressure off the
team intentionally or do you.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Is he a likable guy as a Tiger fan or
are you not capable of really discerning that because you
have to cover the situation, so you can't really just
fan it up. I can fan it up on Syracuse
because I don't have to come right, I can fan
I was.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
You know, I was a far more enthusiastic Jayhawk fan
when I was in New York. Right, it's easier no
skin in the game, you know. There that was just
a rock shock, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
So uh, I liked I like it from one perspective
is that he does seem to always go to bat
for his player, even maybe when sometimes there's no need to.
So I think I think he's a guy who is
players know, has their back in every minute of you know,
there's no never any problem there.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I do.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Sometimes I'll see something that I don't am not bothered by.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
But I'm liking.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I can see why other people would go, dude, come on.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Oh he's not if you're not a Miszoo fan. I
don't think. I don't think he's like. I completely get that.
I'm okay, you guy.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
I think he's funny. I kind of like him, Like
the little stoney pulled at the Missouri basketball game a
few years back, holding up that sign about you know,
KU losing scholarships in the basketball program stuff like that.
I thought it was all good and fun. So I
don't mind he like.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I think he's I think he's funny, but I wouldn't
like my would you hire.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Him, Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I'd rather have Lance lightehold as Michael or.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Bill self the way he carries himself or or I
don't know, I'm trying to think who.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Or Roy Williams whatever, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Back in the day, Well, you're you're saying, all Kansas guys,
is there a Missouri guy that'd be the guy?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Uh K state guy? More Bill Snyder.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Bill Snyder was a classy gentleman always. You'd rather have him.
You'd rather have that personality than Eli Drinkwott's personality.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, yes, I would.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I think it makes it easier. But I think I
get the sense that the money guys like him, and
that's the key.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well, and I also think his you know, I think
his players probably are in a generation age where they
kind of think it's great that their coach like kind
of lets it fly.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I mean Nick Saban, I think was you know, for
the most part of jump, but he'd let it fly
to I mean, I think there's an element of you know,
I think it's I think it's sad, and I think
it's a major problem in this country that just in
society in general, that there's a need to make media
enemy right, and I think I think in a lot
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of it stems from sports, where it's like they're out
there saying no, you know. I mentioned I don't think
there's a problem with Harrison Bucker, but I asked Dave
Toe because lots of fans are saying, well, is there
a problem? So I asked the question that the fans
wanted to hear if you can't see, and Dave Toe
answered it fine, he was fine, And if you can't
see that that's the role that I play. I don't
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get it right.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
But if the fans want the LSU guys covering LSU
to ask the coach why the offense stinks, but that
means it doesn't mean that's.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
A great point because it's a different dynamic. Like Eli
Drinkoutz is still on the ascension. But if he wins
ten games and misses the playoffs this year because his
schedule wasn't good enough, and then he wins nine games,
and then he wins eight games, and he wins nine
games and he never makes the playoffs, they're going to
go from like they love how he jousts with him
to like, where are you going to hold his.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Feet to the fire?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
We'll get that call because I take the call about
the Kansas City Chiefs, and Brett Beachu has led an
organization to five conference titles in six years and three
Super Bowls, goes Ozho in two and the fans have
had enough at least George has. And so that will
come to Eli Drinkuitz as well.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, because I was just looking enough Channa look at this.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
When it came to Dabo Sweeney, and Dabo Sweeney's like,
what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah? Do you know what I've done here? Right? But
unfortunately he's insecure enough that he has to remind everybody
what he's done.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You know, come on, there is listen, I Dabbo handle
it wrong like Andy Reid. You should understand that it's
coming at you and and handle the But Dabo Sweeney
is one hundred percent correct. Yes, if you look in
the mirror Clemson and you think you see Alabama, you're wrong.
Even Danny Ford winning a championship is this weird little
(34:23):
one year island.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
That he had.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
There is nothing in the history of Clemson that have
to go. They should be pissed about nine and three.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
So Clemson's more Auburn than Alabama.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
They're more Kansas than they are Alabama when it comes
to football. I mean, like they have in their head
that they are like a blue blood and they're not. Uh,
they are more so now than they were since Tabosweeney's come.
But I mean I do get his frustration, but you
still don't say it.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You don't do it, you don't have you don't feel
the need to say it. It's obvious, yeah, and also
inherent in and that was the thought that there really
is this type of reaction from the majority of people.
And I think that's probably foolish. I think, yeah, there's
there's always going to be fans or like spoiled like
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Kansas basketball fans. A few losses and you know Bill
self has lost his way and whatever, and we need change.
But the majority of people, I think, when you've had
that kind of success, they know how good they have
it then, and they know how difficult it would be
to replicate if they had to go somewhere else. And
to your point, especially if you're Clemson, you're not Alabama,
(35:33):
You're not Kansas basketball.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
If he wins ten ten games the next three years
and goes to one playoff and loses in that first game,
what will the tone be around Eli Drinquitz.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I'm here to tell you the tone will be like,
I don't know that this guy can get it done.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Because at the fan base, when a coach raises up
the bar, the fan base pulls out a barco lounger
and and we're here remote and it's like, yeah, this
is where I've always been. Yep, so no, no, no, I
I built this for you, respect right, no, no, no, Are
you going to put the roof on.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
It or not? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
And things like I was just looking. I remember I
want to get the details of this. Last November when
they were whipping up on Mississippi State there like round
Thanksgiving thirty nine twenty their goal to goal with like
a minute and a half left, and there was some
jawn back and forth between the sidelines and Eli Drinkwitz
A see on camera going hey, Mississippi State, shut the
blank up or I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Going to score. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
I remember that, like I went, that's kind of funny.
But I was also like, oh, you probably shouldn't have
done that.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
And he's your guy, Yeah, he speaks for a bit.
I could see why that's the tone and tenor of
a lot of bands.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
I think that's to give me the thing that if
he's doing that and but cannot win it, can I.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Also point out, and I'm not trying to, you know,
take a shot at a guy here, but all of
the gripes you would have about Eli Drinkwitz, there's no
DWI Gary Pinkele had that. You know, there's no you
know what's in the old miss basketball coach that was
in Texas. There's no like Chris Beard being called in
(37:08):
for slap. I mean, he appears to have no you know,
real what what you would call a societal problem of
any kind.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
He's just kind of a red ass his players, you know,
Like I mean, his brother's a preacher. I've never I
don't even I don't think I've ever even seen his wife.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I don't think which like is the anti Like we
know that Patrick Mahomes family gets on Twitter and does that.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Everybody loses their mind on that, right, he doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Any of that, like any of that the bad like
I think, like I listen, he's not the easiest guy
that covered. He didn't like me when we were in
the pandemic and I could be on their things because
everything was by zoom. He didn't like me, but that
you know, there's lots of coaches expect you to just
kiss their ass.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
So I think I think he's really really good, and
he's in an environment, you know, in Columbia that yes,
sometimes you'll get the reporters from City or Saint Louis
will come out there, but generally generally it's it's like Manhattan.
You know, you're removed enough that you got to a core.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Chrislin will say, come on, guys, you're not helping here, right,
you gotta you gotta root for us?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
What? Yeah, well the people do?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
They called out after the Kansas game and they were
he was having fun with it. But there was somebody
who writes for one of the Missouri blogs or papers whatever,
the student thing that picked Kansas in the game, and
he goes, by the way, you were wrong. That was
a bad take you had, But he was having fun
with it. And even the quarterback came out that the
court of Boat Propuel did the same thing. And that's
that's you know, go be deft at that stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
My assessment of him is he's and if this season
is going to go the way it looks like it
might start to take off and go he there is
no reason if I don't know why Florida wouldn't he
wouldn't be one of the first calls.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Right unless unless as an athletic director, you'd prefer not
to have his style. I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I don't think his like That's why I say when
you go less, I wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I mean, he's a winner, so he's a winner.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
But if I were the president and I'm like, okay,
so what about I don't like a style? What style
is that the winning kind? Like?
Speaker 4 (39:12):
What are they?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Because that's what I'm saying, Like people will try to
be like, well he's kind of this set. Yeah, but
there's nothing really wrong other than you don't like a
couple of things.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
He said a little brash.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, he's a little brash. He's a little but the
problem there's nothing wrong with him and what he's doing.
No players out there like this, soob is you know,
making us do this or that. There is nothing that
is actually real, a real problem with the.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Guy except when he was brash right from the start,
when he hadn't you know, when he was mediocre for
a couple of.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Years, which which I now, which I did not like.
Then I agree with you, but now I regard as
a strength. He never doubted himself. It's a version of mercy,
so that he was still an ass even when he
was two games below five hundred.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
It's a version of Dan Harley seening you better get
us now. Yeah right, yeah, that would That was him.
That was him for sure.
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Speaker 4 (41:34):
I don't think so, okay, I don't think they haven't
proved to me that they should do this best. Virginia
wants to run the football and Kansas got absolutely marauded
by the Missouri running attack. So they can pressure the
quarterback a little bit. I'd be all over. I think
Kansas win the game. They're at home. I think they
(41:56):
I think at right now I would have them a
pretty good football team. But I think West Virginia is
somewhat in that camp. I think Kansas is better, but
and you know, they have a new coach to bring enthusiasm,
new slash old coach, and so no, I don't think
they're I don't think they should be favored by double digits.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
If West Virginia wins this game, I'm gonna be like,
what was going on with the odds makers? Because I
got on paper that looks like too big a number
to lay. So I take cancas because I assume they
know something. But if West Virginia wins this game, I'm
gonna be like, what are we doing now with the odds?
Speaker 7 (42:33):
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Speaker 3 (42:33):
Like I don't even know how to like, are you
guys just throwing darts on this thing?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
See? I never read the odds. I just think about
the game. It's bad enough for me to try to
pick a game without trying to get into the head
of guys who said a line.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Well, why are they doing this? I'm like, well, they
did it, so I'll just go with that. Danny I know,
I know that's your problem.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Right, So anyway, I'll just that guy covers Kansas picked
him by a touchdown. That sounds about right to me.
Cotch would be an easy cover. So uh, I think
we hands us wins the game. But do you answer
your question directly? No, I don't understand the line, but
I'm not going to bet or choose the game based
(43:17):
on that. Okay, okay, but I understand your logic, sir.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
All right, Well, thanks for coming in and crapping on
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I think I am now I have decided I like
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Speaker 4 (02:36):
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I'm good with I don't really like the lights to
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the day after that.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You can put them up and just not turn them on, right,
put them right minor minor going on at midnight Halloween night.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Okay, if I can make that happen, that's what I want.
I am somewhat in the camp of whatever happened to
poor Thanksgiving. It's like Halloween is like a super big
deal to people, and then.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And that starts on July.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Fair.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I think it's Thanksgiving is so like out of it
that they can't even wait for the day to end
before it's Christmas already.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
That's right. It's like, I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What do you what do you want to properly observe Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the whining
about Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I really am.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What do you well? I'm just saying, for those that
are on, how do we do that? How would you
like me.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
To do that? What? What would you like me to do?
I think I think it's more. I think it's more
the Christmas overkill rather than the Thanksgiving. I love Christmas,
but you know, having Christmas stuff going on before Thanksgiving
to me is a little bit of.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Overkilling because it's a month. Those of us that want
to get after it get out.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Of our way. I didn't say you couldn't Christmas shop
put a Christmas smile on your face.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Aren't the art the radio stations already playing the Christmas music?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I wouldn't. I don't know if it's yet, but it's early.
You walk through sometimes I'm I'm jarred by like I'm
a hark.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The Herald Angels sing.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Well more Christmas earlier. That's that's my platform I'm running on.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
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Speaker 4 (04:49):
You know there you have it, Danny, Please run do
what run on any platform? Just run? Please? Al frank
I better stop talking. King. Yes.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Alf Franklin once wrote a book where his he is
like why not me?
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Why not? Alf? Frankin.
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It was the whole thing was his presidential candidates. He
was going to be based on eliminating at M fees.
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Howard entire platform.
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it's gonna throw whatever budget there was was going to
go to fixing potholes. And what was the other was
potholes and something else he had. He had two things.
He goes, I don't care, I will pull money from
whatever I'm going to fix these two things.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Harry Truman getting traction. Harry Truman won his first political
office by promising to fix the roads.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, okay, launch launch the president.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
When I have more time, maybe I will. Uh, you
know everyone thinks so I think I'll do it. No,
you don't want to do it, trust me now, it's uh,
it's hard work. So anyway, Danny, let let's let's start
with this. When are you going to hold Brett Beach's
feet for the fire? When when are you going to
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do a bit of an overstatement.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
But tell me how you're gonna do it? And well,
physically holding his feet to the fire sounds like I
think the reaction, I beach would kick your Yeah, I
think he probably would, and also you'd get arrested. So
not interested in that. We're trying to set the man
on fire, right, yeah, holding him physically in front of
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a logs burning, trying to get his feet in there.
It sounds like a crime to me. But the only
crime against humanity is the fact that he's his his
team looks like he hasn't worked for the last two
years except for his Hey Pat, can you save the day?
(06:50):
But obviously you think it's been that bad? Oh yeah, yeah,
I mean it is this sole narrative of I mean,
these games were border line ass kickings. They just the
score ended up looking better, and much of it was
because of really, you know, obviously made a couple of
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bad throws early in the game. But Mahomes has been
heroic in these two games, and they have not been close,
only in the score, and they've not looked like a
good football team period. You know, you can moan and grown.
One of my favorites is I'm watching the replay and
seeing people on Twitter just losing their minds about the
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Eagles are false starting on the tush push, and I'm
looking at the screen with Chris Jones is lying to
clearly lined up off side on that play. So it
was like, what are we complaining about here?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, I don't think they were a couple of calls
on the tush push away from winning.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I've pointed out that with five minutes ago, they were
down two scores in both of their first two games, right,
I mean they have scored to make them one score games.
It is not a one score game that the other
team finished it the end to you know, come from
behind and take it away from them. So I do
agree that there are issues that need to be solved.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
And there are explanations. I mean, you you're up, you're
down to top receivers, but you know, teams deal with
bad injuries all the time. Now these are in the
area where the Chiefs are looking the worst. Right now.
They've played one outstanding defensive football game. I mean, you
get all these defending Super Bowl champions two hundred and
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sixteen yards, you've done your work. So and the thing is,
it's it's like, well, now we're gonna rev up here.
Now we're gonna so losing the Super Bowl and getting
ready for Opening Day, what didn't get the fire burning right,
and then your home opener after you got beat on
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opening day, that didn't get your fire going.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So now Oho and two's going to do it. I
am with you, and I think that's part of the
reason why the number is at five and a half
and why people are betting the Chiefs and they're still
not moving off of it, because I think that's the
view that the oddsmakers have of it, like, well, why
is this Like now they're gonna bring it? What about
the giant says, Oh, let's let's go get it. So
(09:17):
now they might, Yeah, they might. I'd stand by the
statement that I don't think the tush push calls would
have given the win to the Chiefs, but if Travis
Kelce catches the ball, oh sure that might. So that's
why I say, I don't know, Like if you're talking
about a great defensive effort, I don't know understand.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I can say they're playing just awful. I said one good,
one good. So in four games the unit games, two games,
four units, four units of offense and defense, they played
one very good one out of four. The other three
have not been good. And I have fear that the
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one thing that we've seen, which is that Holmes has
been under constant duress in these games. Is one area
where the Giants are actually good. So you know, the
pass rush is excellent, so they have excellent talent.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Their actual pass rush win rate and all that kind
of stuff isn't isn't at the top of the chart
or anything.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Burns is leading the league in pressures and he has
three sacks, so.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And then the here end of the story, right, because
that's you're right, he has been good, but the rest
not not so much. But I that doesn't mean that
the Chiefs can't wake them from that slumber and allow
that talent to shine. Yeah, I look, I I do
think that this game is really really important because I
don't see while they won't be mathematically eliminated.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, I'm sure you saw the stat since two and
seventeen teams have started oh to three and one has.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Made the playoff. Yeah, the and two stat that Curtis had,
which like, did you hear Curtis's breakdown or we get
all the way down to well, if you were a
Super Bowl team that started owing too, you're one hundred
percent to make the playoffs. It's two for two, yeah, right,
but none of them are gone over three, right, and
so it is this is the critical juncture. And it's
not that it's the one game, it's that it will
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be that for three games you couldn't figure it out.
And I think that's that's the thing for me, Like,
mathematically they won't be dead, but there's no reason to
believe that over the next fourteen games you're going to
consistently play well enough to win enough games or just
flat out be good enough to beat four playoff teams.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Like especially when the third the third would be precincts
are in. The third would be against a team that's
pretty much a laughingstock, the Giants. Yea, the third failure
would be against the Giants, So yeah, it'd be it'd
beat absolute panic time, you know, absolutely. Now that being said,
(11:49):
I think they're going to win the game. I think
it might be. I think it might be not pretty,
but who cares. The style points will not matter Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And I think that's one of the things they need
to do. Like what do you make of Matt Naggi saying, well,
we're still trying to find our identity.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I think it's an unfortunate man trying to answer a
question and using a phrase that makes him look like
he doesn't know what his job is. I mean, what
your identity is to move the football? Who cares? For instance,
what was that the game last night set the record
for the fewest air yards combined by two teams in
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the history of the NFL.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
History of the next the net gen stats right about
at sixteen when one starts average yards.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Right, and they, you know, through two balls past the
Josh Allen through you know, more bald behind the line
of scrimmage than he did passed, and they've scored thirty
one points? So who cares about your identity move the ball? Well,
I mean, I think that's where.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I think you could translate it if we were behind
closed doors and just amongst the coaches what works. We're
trying to find what works right.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And also I think there is a concerted effort to
make part of that identity throwing the football deep. And
now it just kind of seems like they're just do
it to do it, you know, And.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yes, I think there's some of that, but I think
that is part of the reason why you do it,
is to force them to guard you.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You don't expect if you throw the ball down feel
deep eight times. You don't expect to get six of them.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I mean a if you don't try it all the
Raiders do what they did on Christmas to a couple
of years ago. They don't even play the long ball.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, there's an element of like squad and shorts, you
stick the jab. You know it's not going to knock
them out, but you need them to defend it so
that they bring their gloves down and then you knock
them out. The problem is that there's a little bit
of battery and backwards on that in the sense that
what everybody else in the league is doing is running
effectively to get them to put their hands down on
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the deep ball and then beating them all over the top.
And the other thing is there is none of an
intermediate passing game. They're either humming it down the field,
oftentimes as a show piece to show you we'll do
it early later on when the team gets aggressive and
is up to scores. Then they've been effective and been
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able to hit a couple of those, but they have
nothing going in the intermediate. Everything is all these bubbles,
screens and quick slants and which I'm all for. I mean,
I beat the drum for where is a slant a
few years ago? Because I think it, because that to
me is the extension of the running game. Let's run it,
let's screen it, let's slant it. And now we've got
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the safeties walking forward right, and now we can get
behind and get some one on ones down the field,
and we can hit some big plays. But they can't
even whether it's a lack of either belief in the
protection or just they can't protect long enough to even
get the ball to fifteen yards. You can throw a
deep ball with bad protection.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I mean you can just take the snap, wait a
couple of beats and heave it and let the guy run.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
If you throw the rainbows that Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Does, you can throw a pretty deep ball.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
You can also move the pocket like there's other things
that they're not doing, like roll him out with the
designed move of the pocket, put him under center, pound
away on inside runs, and then play action off the
inside run Gunther Cunningham is still waking up with nightmares
in heaven. Uh from Mike Shanahan, the rollout, the what
(15:35):
they call it the quarterback roll. Well, but yeah it anyway,
the naked buleg destroyed gun their cunning Ham because he
was so hell bent on getting up the field and
stopping the run and doing all that. Like they the
Chiefs don't even try it. They don't try it because
they don't set it up. They don't run just a
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nice little dive play or a power run, you know,
pull the guard you know, out in front and come
off the other guards hip, and you know, then their back.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Just runs into the butt of his offensive lineman. Well
that is I mean, I think the hold to the
right of it.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think there And I'll tell you what Sam McDowell
asked Matt and Aggie this week about you know, were
there yards left out there?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And Matt Aggie acknowledged it.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I mean like, yeah, you know, I don't think he
wanted to say, Well, were like what is he doing?
And how have you consistently had running backs that just
don't grasp where the hole is? Well, unfortunately Clyde ebergs
Hlire seemed to hand that batond Isaiah Pacheco.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Right, and then the fact that you have looks like
he does have some vision, can't get to where he
sees right, Oh there's a hole, Well it's gone. Now
These old laced make it to the hole in time.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, Pa Checko runs right up before the hole has
even appeared.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Right, that's the flip side of it. Well, I've never
I mean you've heard it here. I've never thought that
much of Pacheco. I think he's all flash, no dash.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I think there's more motion than progress for sure, Right,
But I think he's service. What I can't figure out
is how he's four years into the Andy Reid offense
and he's not a better receiver.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Right? How how has this happened? I don't think he's
an instinctual football player. I don't either. I think he's
a good athlete.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean, I to which there's a reason why
he was there in the seventh round. How does a
guy who runs sub four four what did.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
He even run?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Like four three seven or something like that? Runs four
to three seven and he's there in the seventh round
and then you look like, how did he average like
three point eight yards carrier seat his senior year? And
it's like now you see it, like you're gonna have
to block it perfectly?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, four three seven at the comebine, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And he has no fifteen yard runs none? Right, I
mean there's plenty, plenty of blame to go around, but
they got to figure out what he is.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And I and I, well, there's there's a bit there's
a Brett Beach thing there. They they did ride with well,
they did bring in Mitchell, but that was bad about
and they draft Smith right, but that was they didn't
make a real investment. Now, I heard you the other
day say, you know you don't want to you know, still,
(18:25):
even though the running game has become more in vogue
in the national football you still want to don't want
to throw high picks at it. But that doesn't mean
you want to throw no picks at it. Or maybe
a third or fourth round.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
They've thrown two sevens in five years right at the position. Right.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
That's and it's almost like you didn't see the change
coming type of thing, you know, because maybe you know
it's a copycat league. Maybe that was just it, but
maybe just the champs had a two thousand yard rusher.
But I mean this was starting to come a couple
of years ago and the chief seemed to kind of
ignore it. But Andy Reid's never been you know, somebody
really loves to run the football, period in his whole
(19:02):
career and that, and he was ahead of the curve
and being that person.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
So the problem is he was ahead of the curve
and doing that that was the right thing to do.
But now now the right thing to do is to
run on these pass defenses. Yes, and he it's like
he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Oh, he's he's coached two poor games. You can just
say it for his team, hasn't been emotional prepared, They've
made mistakes, didn't adjust him much, right, I mean it's
it's not been good. So it is. And his game plan.
He is the let's face it, he's the offensive coordinator.
I mean he is. Are you holding his feet to
(19:38):
the fire? Dan, Well, no, he's he's heavy. I couldn't
he definitely couldn't lift him and hold his feet to
the fire. But do you do you think it's done?
Do you think Amy reach? No? I don't think that.
I mean I need I need a hell of a
lot more evidence than two games that games passed him
by whatever, But they he's You're not in the running
(20:02):
for coach of the Year at this point in time.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I'd be interested to know what ideas Naggy's bringing, what
ideas Read's bringing. Does Reid need to, you know, maybe
graduate to more of a CEO type.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Do they need to fire Mattnaggy. I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Andy Reid is the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
But if you're like, oh, he's significant, yes, But if.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You say, okay, well listen, we like everything, but we
need fresh ideas. We're going to go get this quarterback
coach from Sean McVay and let's get some ideas in here.
Then I am open to the idea that Matt Naggie
might need to go because they've got too much invested
in the offensive side of the ball right now for
it to not work at all. Something will have to change,
whether it's Andy Hack, Matt Naggy, Andy Reid not calling
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the plays.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Some people he's not as familiar with.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I mean he's comfortable with. I mean, even though they
you know, shipped off Joe Toney, there's still their offensive
line is going to be among the highest paid in
the league. I would think I'll have to look. But
to run the football like that and that much money
invested in the line, that's that's asy.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
And the two that aren't making a boatload are we're
super high draft picks. I mean they're high, but one
is the second. It's a late second in the late
first the capital capital and draft capital. That thing needs
to be good, right And.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
By the way, when you see Simmons track down a
defensive back, there's no lack of athleticism. Andy, heck better
make him bad ass by the end of the year.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Well, the that's the way the chief season has gone
so far. That turned out to be a bad play.
If he just scored a touchdown, they would have saved
like six minutes. They scored on that drive, Yeah they did. Yeah,
and it took a.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
While to do it, Like, why didn't you just slow down?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Buddy?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
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Speaker 4 (22:47):
Integrity matter all right?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
The uh nigga jinks I get it now song has
a purpose.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Very nice. Let me stand next to Year for five
trying to remember the day.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Kyle always thinking the Nick and Jakes into the hour
answer how many professed menu?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
By the way, that's true?
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Oh yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Jambo Bravarian Pretzel.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
I just ate one in my just in my mind.
How many players have won both the MVP and the
World Series in back to back seasons? Been what MVP
and what and the World Series in back to back
seasons in back to back now back to back years
where they won both.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh, also they're back to back MVPs and back. Well,
there's only been like yoga over thirteen guys that have
won back to back MVPs.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Right, Yogi, they didn't win either year that he won
back to back fifty four and fifty five. Roger Merris
was close. They lost in sad damn musial.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
That's a good guess. Uh hmmm. Braves didn't win to
win a row, did they? I mean Dale Dren Braves Murphy.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Dale Murphy is the one who did it. Yeah, won
back to back in a Braves uniform. Yeah, and they
never won with him, well, Murphy, Merritt, Marris.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
No, they lost in sixty they would have had the Murphy.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Marris and Mantle are the back to back with the
first back then outfield.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
He won and fifty seven they lost in fifty Barrack
was the catcher. How new Houser was the pitcher. Yeah,
they didn't win. Jimmy Fox was first base they went
back to back. Yep, they didn't win.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Second base was Joe Morgan.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Joe Morgan. Joe Morgan shortstop. Was there any banks? They
never won? The third was SI they won one just
Joe Morgan, just Joe Morgan the only guy to beat.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
And then PS and somebody else has done it since. Yeah,
there for a while, do you know, it was the
greatest Trivy question of all time? Nine guys had won
back to back and they were different nine positions.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Right, Yeah, that is pretty cool. That was great, and then.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Stupid Frank Thomas had screw it up. Was Frank Thomas
who did it first, and then Bonds did it, and
then Poohls did it, and Joe Trout's done it and.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Joe Morgan and Tom Seaver. I'm glad they did it before.
The newest edition of the film at the Hall of Fame,
which I saw last week, was done just before both
of those guys passed, so they're in it. Cool. That
film is great. I mean, the whole museum was great.
To go back there and see everything.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You know, the best time, by the way, I will
and I'm I did not when we were talking about
that didn't even connect with me that I was going
to be gone last Friday, Preparent's weekend. But like we're
about ready to be the perfect time to go to
the Baseball Fame because the fall and upstate New York
is outsanding.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
The leaves were just starting to turn a little bit,
like they were literally turned in the four days some
and I was there. The drive about three four weeks.
It'll be perfect.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
The drive from Cooperstown back to where where we were staying.
Like around the New York Pennsylvania border, I'd never seen
so much green, and all I could think of was
what would this place look like in October.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
No matter where, you can fly into Syracuse or Albany
or New York City, and whatevery way you go in
is a.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Beautiful You fly in Scranton. That's what I'd recommend flying Scranton.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
There's no reason to go to Scranton and go to
Duffler Mender or what Isner Mifflin.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Dunder Mifflin, check out dunder Mifflin.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
My memory of Scranton, which I drove through many times
on the way back and forth to college, is they
have the world's largest or did at one time, a
whole mountain side covered with flattened cars, like thousands of
car Remember that we car debris on the side of
a mountain. We go the guys who lived in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
The route to go back to New York City was
through Scranton, and so I went through Scranton a number
of times doing that.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Sounds like a city with Scranton. Scramton's oh beautiful Scranton.
You can't even say it and not sound would sound
that way, right, it's very model.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, it is a bit of a geography lesson because
it reminds you, oh yeah, Pennsylvania's right here.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Okay, that's right, and then poor Wilkesbury, you know, gets
mentioned after scrant you know, and usually your second Scranton,
your second is suffering.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, uh, not suffering of the Missouri Tiger. No, they
they're laying now still nine and a half, even with
South Carolina expected to have its quarterback playing. Are they
a just as good as they've been the last couple
of years? They sure have looked it.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
But you know, it's really just against Kansas, right, and
we just like we said, we don't have a real
pulse on Kansas, shet. So I think with Kansas playing
West Virginia, which played a good game last week in Missouri,
playing the South Carolina team which was a borderline top
ten for sure, top ten team. I think we're going
to get a real They go out and win this
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game by the cover the number, I'm convinced. You know,
does that mean they're not gonna, you know, go roll
Alabama or whatever. No, but they've run the football, they've
shut people down. Quarterback looks good. There's no reason to
not think they're good except to sample size and quality
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of opposition is still in doubt. I think Kansas is
going to be pretty good football team. So and I
think we do think the South Carolina is a good team,
whether they got punked last week or not. There's you know,
the reaction to losing your quarterback within the game is
more difficult probably than even knowing he's not going to
be there before the game, and then this case, he's
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probably gonna at least start. But they were a borderline
top ten team, So I'm bullish right now. But like
I said, it's early, and this is a is a
big game and they're expected. That's the other thing to me.
Anecdotally through the Ears and Curtis you can you know
you're the Missouri fan here, it seems like Missouri has
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always been at their worst when they were supposed to
do something. You know, a little bit of chip on
their shoulders.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Two years ago wasn't supposed to be what it was,
and then everyone expected a regression last year and they
won ten games. They were expecting a regression again.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
This year, right, So I think that that's basketball and football.
It seems like when there's been a lot of expectations
or they're just getting a little high and mighty, that's
when there was a fall. This team seems to be
wired right. Maybe maybe part of it is that I
think they the team. Eli Drinkwitz is such a lightning
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rod type of figure. I think he takes a lot
of pressure off his team.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I think I think if Missouri loses and you don't
like him, you're like, haha, drink Witz, you know, like
new quarterback stinks. You know, it's like, drink Witz eat this.
You know. So I think he takes pressure off the
team intentionally or do you.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Is he a likable guy as a Tiger fan or
are you not capable of really discerning that because you
have to cover the situation, so you can't really just
fan it up. I can fan it up on Syracuse
because I don't have to come right, I can fan
I was.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
You know, I was a far more enthusiastic Jayhawk fan
when I was in New York. Right, it's easier no
skin in the game, you know. There that was just
a rock shock, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
So uh, I liked I like it from one perspective
is that he does seem to always go to bat
for his player, even maybe when sometimes there's no need to.
So I think I think he's a guy who is
players know, has their back in every minute of you know,
there's no never any problem there.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I do.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Sometimes I'll see something that I don't am not bothered by.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
But I'm liking.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I can see why other people would go, dude, come on.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Oh he's not if you're not a Miszoo fan. I
don't think. I don't think he's like. I completely get that.
I'm okay, you guy.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
I think he's funny. I kind of like him, Like
the little stoney pulled at the Missouri basketball game a
few years back, holding up that sign about you know,
KU losing scholarships in the basketball program stuff like that.
I thought it was all good and fun. So I
don't mind he like.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I think he's I think he's funny, but I wouldn't
like my would you hire.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Him, Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I'd rather have Lance lightehold as Michael or.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Bill self the way he carries himself or or I
don't know, I'm trying to think who.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Or Roy Williams whatever, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Back in the day, Well, you're you're saying, all Kansas guys,
is there a Missouri guy that'd be the guy?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Uh K state guy? More Bill Snyder.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Bill Snyder was a classy gentleman always. You'd rather have him.
You'd rather have that personality than Eli Drinkwott's personality.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, yes, I would.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I think it makes it easier. But I think I
get the sense that the money guys like him, and
that's the key.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well, and I also think his you know, I think
his players probably are in a generation age where they
kind of think it's great that their coach like kind
of lets it fly.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I mean Nick Saban, I think was you know, for
the most part of jump, but he'd let it fly
to I mean, I think there's an element of you know,
I think it's I think it's sad, and I think
it's a major problem in this country that just in
society in general, that there's a need to make media
enemy right, and I think I think in a lot
(32:36):
of it stems from sports, where it's like they're out
there saying no, you know. I mentioned I don't think
there's a problem with Harrison Bucker, but I asked Dave
Toe because lots of fans are saying, well, is there
a problem? So I asked the question that the fans
wanted to hear if you can't see, and Dave Toe
answered it fine, he was fine, And if you can't
see that that's the role that I play. I don't
(33:00):
get it right.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
But if the fans want the LSU guys covering LSU
to ask the coach why the offense stinks, but that
means it doesn't mean that's.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
A great point because it's a different dynamic. Like Eli
Drinkoutz is still on the ascension. But if he wins
ten games and misses the playoffs this year because his
schedule wasn't good enough, and then he wins nine games,
and then he wins eight games, and he wins nine
games and he never makes the playoffs, they're going to
go from like they love how he jousts with him
to like, where are you going to hold his.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Feet to the fire?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
We'll get that call because I take the call about
the Kansas City Chiefs, and Brett Beachu has led an
organization to five conference titles in six years and three
Super Bowls, goes Ozho in two and the fans have
had enough at least George has. And so that will
come to Eli Drinkuitz as well.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, because I was just looking enough Channa look at this.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
When it came to Dabo Sweeney, and Dabo Sweeney's like,
what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah? Do you know what I've done here? Right? But
unfortunately he's insecure enough that he has to remind everybody
what he's done.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You know, come on, there is listen, I Dabbo handle
it wrong like Andy Reid. You should understand that it's
coming at you and and handle the But Dabo Sweeney
is one hundred percent correct. Yes, if you look in
the mirror Clemson and you think you see Alabama, you're wrong.
Even Danny Ford winning a championship is this weird little
(34:23):
one year island.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
That he had.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
There is nothing in the history of Clemson that have
to go. They should be pissed about nine and three.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
So Clemson's more Auburn than Alabama.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
They're more Kansas than they are Alabama when it comes
to football. I mean, like they have in their head
that they are like a blue blood and they're not. Uh,
they are more so now than they were since Tabosweeney's come.
But I mean I do get his frustration, but you
still don't say it.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You don't do it, you don't have you don't feel
the need to say it. It's obvious, yeah, and also
inherent in and that was the thought that there really
is this type of reaction from the majority of people.
And I think that's probably foolish. I think, yeah, there's
there's always going to be fans or like spoiled like
(35:12):
Kansas basketball fans. A few losses and you know Bill
self has lost his way and whatever, and we need change.
But the majority of people, I think, when you've had
that kind of success, they know how good they have
it then, and they know how difficult it would be
to replicate if they had to go somewhere else. And
to your point, especially if you're Clemson, you're not Alabama,
(35:33):
You're not Kansas basketball.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
If he wins ten ten games the next three years
and goes to one playoff and loses in that first game,
what will the tone be around Eli Drinquitz.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I'm here to tell you the tone will be like,
I don't know that this guy can get it done.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Because at the fan base, when a coach raises up
the bar, the fan base pulls out a barco lounger
and and we're here remote and it's like, yeah, this
is where I've always been. Yep, so no, no, no, I
I built this for you, respect right, no, no, no, Are
you going to put the roof on.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
It or not? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
And things like I was just looking. I remember I
want to get the details of this. Last November when
they were whipping up on Mississippi State there like round
Thanksgiving thirty nine twenty their goal to goal with like
a minute and a half left, and there was some
jawn back and forth between the sidelines and Eli Drinkwitz
A see on camera going hey, Mississippi State, shut the
blank up or I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Going to score. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
I remember that, like I went, that's kind of funny.
But I was also like, oh, you probably shouldn't have
done that.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
And he's your guy, Yeah, he speaks for a bit.
I could see why that's the tone and tenor of
a lot of bands.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
I think that's to give me the thing that if
he's doing that and but cannot win it, can I.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Also point out, and I'm not trying to, you know,
take a shot at a guy here, but all of
the gripes you would have about Eli Drinkwitz, there's no
DWI Gary Pinkele had that. You know, there's no you
know what's in the old miss basketball coach that was
in Texas. There's no like Chris Beard being called in
(37:08):
for slap. I mean, he appears to have no you know,
real what what you would call a societal problem of
any kind.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
He's just kind of a red ass his players, you know,
Like I mean, his brother's a preacher. I've never I
don't even I don't think I've ever even seen his wife.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I don't think which like is the anti Like we
know that Patrick Mahomes family gets on Twitter and does that.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Everybody loses their mind on that, right, he doesn't have.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Any of that, like any of that the bad like
I think, like I listen, he's not the easiest guy
that covered. He didn't like me when we were in
the pandemic and I could be on their things because
everything was by zoom. He didn't like me, but that
you know, there's lots of coaches expect you to just
kiss their ass.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
So I think I think he's really really good, and
he's in an environment, you know, in Columbia that yes,
sometimes you'll get the reporters from City or Saint Louis
will come out there, but generally generally it's it's like Manhattan.
You know, you're removed enough that you got to a core.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Chrislin will say, come on, guys, you're not helping here, right,
you gotta you gotta root for us?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
What? Yeah, well the people do?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
They called out after the Kansas game and they were
he was having fun with it. But there was somebody
who writes for one of the Missouri blogs or papers whatever,
the student thing that picked Kansas in the game, and
he goes, by the way, you were wrong. That was
a bad take you had, But he was having fun
with it. And even the quarterback came out that the
court of Boat Propuel did the same thing. And that's
that's you know, go be deft at that stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
My assessment of him is he's and if this season
is going to go the way it looks like it
might start to take off and go he there is
no reason if I don't know why Florida wouldn't he
wouldn't be one of the first calls.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Right unless unless as an athletic director, you'd prefer not
to have his style. I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I don't think his like That's why I say when
you go less, I wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I mean, he's a winner, so he's a winner.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
But if I were the president and I'm like, okay,
so what about I don't like a style? What style
is that the winning kind? Like?
Speaker 4 (39:12):
What are they?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Because that's what I'm saying, Like people will try to
be like, well he's kind of this set. Yeah, but
there's nothing really wrong other than you don't like a
couple of things.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
He said a little brash.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, he's a little brash. He's a little but the
problem there's nothing wrong with him and what he's doing.
No players out there like this, soob is you know,
making us do this or that. There is nothing that
is actually real, a real problem with the.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Guy except when he was brash right from the start,
when he hadn't you know, when he was mediocre for
a couple of.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Years, which which I now, which I did not like.
Then I agree with you, but now I regard as
a strength. He never doubted himself. It's a version of mercy,
so that he was still an ass even when he
was two games below five hundred.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
It's a version of Dan Harley seening you better get
us now. Yeah right, yeah, that would That was him.
That was him for sure.
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you know, at least not terrible.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
I don't think so, okay, I don't think they haven't
proved to me that they should do this best. Virginia
wants to run the football and Kansas got absolutely marauded
by the Missouri running attack. So they can pressure the
quarterback a little bit. I'd be all over. I think
Kansas win the game. They're at home. I think they
(41:56):
I think at right now I would have them a
pretty good football team. But I think West Virginia is
somewhat in that camp. I think Kansas is better, but
and you know, they have a new coach to bring enthusiasm,
new slash old coach, and so no, I don't think
they're I don't think they should be favored by double digits.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
If West Virginia wins this game, I'm gonna be like,
what was going on with the odds makers? Because I
got on paper that looks like too big a number
to lay. So I take cancas because I assume they
know something. But if West Virginia wins this game, I'm
gonna be like, what are we doing now with the odds?
Speaker 7 (42:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Like I don't even know how to like, are you
guys just throwing darts on this thing?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
See? I never read the odds. I just think about
the game. It's bad enough for me to try to
pick a game without trying to get into the head
of guys who said a line.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Well, why are they doing this? I'm like, well, they
did it, so I'll just go with that. Danny I know,
I know that's your problem.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Right, So anyway, I'll just that guy covers Kansas picked
him by a touchdown. That sounds about right to me.
Cotch would be an easy cover. So uh, I think
we hands us wins the game. But do you answer
your question directly? No, I don't understand the line, but
I'm not going to bet or choose the game based
(43:17):
on that. Okay, okay, but I understand your logic, sir.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
All right, Well, thanks for coming in and crapping on
my theories. Danny really appreciate You're welcome. You're the man fat.
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