October 3, 2025 • 48 mins
Reliably spicy and informative, the boys are diving into the Chiefs MNF matchup with the Jags, a big college football Saturday, a bit of baseball, trivia fun, and plenty of side smiles. Come along for the ride!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 4 (01:37):
Danny, how are you, sir? Coming in hot? Really? So
you've been drinking all afternoon? Yeah, yeah, that's me day drinking.
That term that is a term coming in hot, usually means.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, you're tex Oh, oh, I didn't know. Sometimes it
means you're going to be you're running late.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It can it can be either way.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, running late is the one I've seen because people
use it in golf a lot, Like you're meeting somebody
for a round of golf and they'll say you got
a twelve thirty five tea time and then say I'm
coming in hot at twelve thirty. You know they are
running late doing business or something. So that's that's the
way I know the phrase, I didn't know that somebody
(02:18):
was tanked if they were coming in hot.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
That's one of the ways I've heard it. Used. It
sounds like a versatile phrase. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Also it could describe what, you know, just walking from
my car to in the building and it's ninety one degrees.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It's a warm one sure in October, it's a dry
heat in the fall. Though.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It does make it better, it does. Yeah, Oh it
makes a yeah. I don't even start to argue at
that point. No, ninety one in like you know, June
fifteenth is like, oh.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
My god, yeah, yeah, this is it's nicer. But am
I am I being forced to wander around a giant's.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Crotch or something here? Like what is going on? This
is awful? And now it's just warm?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
That's not unpleasant out there today. No, I mean, if
you're I mean, if I was out there doing yard work,
I probably say I wish it was a little cooler.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, but I was not doing any yard work today.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So your biggest fan that I know sent me a
little nugget that they want, said Danny's favorite pundit on
ESPN with a.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Great take, Oh damn dirty dirty Dan dan Orlovsky made
the points.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Let me see, I was trying to open up the
there goes quote.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I truly truly believe if mac Jones was drafted by
the forty nine ers at number three in that draft,
he would be one of the top ten quarterbacks in
the NFL. Last night was the best game I've ever
seen him play. Okay, so that means that's what he'd
be every game for the he's.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Been, he's been kind of warm. Although please don't ruin
those set of times they're tangled.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But I'm not gonna go pulling them as hard as
you can in opposite directions is not helping.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I just untangled him, so suck it.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Usually, uh, usually, now I don't get that many hot
takes from Dan because usually when he appears on screen
changed that changed the channel. Yeah, I think he's you know,
is he supposed to be wiser now that.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
He's letting his hair go gray and he's got a
little gray beard. You know, I don't know he's a sage. Yeah,
he's a he smells like sage. Maybe that's about his
sage as he gets.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Danny Dimes, you know, he's played pretty well as a
fill in. That's that's probably what his career are.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Mac Jones or you said Danny Dimes? Like, are we
moving on to Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
What are we doing with Jones?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
By my, my, my bad. I think mac Jones is
a viable quarterback, you know, I think he but I
think he's probably in his best role, a good, bad,
you know, excellent backup sort of what we've seen a
couple of the Chiefs backups morph into okay, capable of starting.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I like, I like Mac Jones. I think he to me,
I also liked Baker Mayfield. There have been a number
guy like that Tua. When everyone's like, oh, he's just
all he's terrible, I'm like, he's not. Listen, he's not Mahomes.
But who do you think you have instead? Like, I mean,
that's what I'll say. You know, the Patriots ultimately did
end up getting Drake may right, so they've got a
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guy who.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He looks he looks good. I like what I see
at him. But like, you know, Mac Jones. Do you
think who's better Trevor Lawrence or Mac Jones?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
You know, that's that's a viable question. And for the
Jaguars that's not not good that Mac Jones are. You
know that there should be no argument there. It should
be Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
But it's not it's not and when it when it's
a question, you should not have a paid Trevor Lawrence,
I'm out in the cash and b should consider going
with the cheaper option. I mean, like if you if
you are on a like teams are just so afraid
of the unknown, and like if you can't be like,
you know, Mac Jones could play, Baker Mayfield could play.
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There's a guy who right now, you know, Sam Donald
could play a little. I didn't see the Sam Donald coming.
That's why I give great, you know, credit to O'Connell.
I was like, my buddy JD was all about him
having a big year with the Viking. Say he's gonna
a big year. I'll give JD tons of credit for
that because I'm like, whatever he does, owe me five
(06:26):
hundred you do only five hundred bucks. Says he didn't
finish top three in Fantasy as JD said he would.
Still I've been paid on that. But you know, we'll see,
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I think O'Connell's proving quarterback after quarterback that he's got
something going. Oh and if he ever gets a truly
good one, and it would.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Have been nice and it wouldn't have been nice because
it would have been Patrick Mahomes got hurt. But I
would like to have seen what ay Reid did with
Carson Wentz with the full squad around him. You know,
all we saw was the game filled with backups. So
it's clear he's not Patrick Mahomes, right because Mahomes with
backup one in Denver. But Carson Wentz making Carson Wentz
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look like a star Again's pretty impressive.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah, And I thought that Carson Wentz maybe had too
much scar tissue, and so you know that's working right now.
So I think that it would it be surprised shocked
to me if mac Jones did a Baker Mayfield eventually,
But they're big. Part of Baker Mayfield's success is he's
got an absolute, full pavered basket of WTF he well
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he was.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Also, he's also got a full basket of a good
line he had last year. We'll see how it goes
this year, a good play caller and Liam Cohen and
a bunch of good receivers.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
By that, I mean he doesn't give a agreed.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
You know, he's gonna let it. He's going to be
a gunslinger and if it hurts him like it killed
him when he threw the first first down interception last week. Then,
not that he likes the fact that he did it,
but that's his mindset and that's what has helped make
him good and given him the ability to bounce back
from his bouncing around looking like he might not even
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be a backup in the league, and now he's I
don't know, he's a clue.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Is he at the edge of tier one or two
and Mike Sandos top of tier two something like, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Where Mike had m I was founds about right. I
was pretty big on him. I got kind of laughed at.
We did our quarterback tiers on the podcast, and I
was by far the highest on Baker Mayfield because I mean,
I like that he can buy a new set of
downs with his legs. He's tough, he is fearless. He's
not afraid to make a mistake. I mean, I'm gonna
tell you you want to if you want to consistently
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be able to move the ball at the end of
a game when you have to, when it's short, you're
going to watch the guy lose a game. And if
a guy never, never flat out makes a mistake, losing
the game. Never throws a pick to lose a game
in that situation, He's never going.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
To win it for you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That's Dak Prescott, that's Alex Smith, you know, the guy
that like, oh, I'm gonna check it down.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I mean, Mahomes said it was it. I don't remember
what game.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I thought it was this week, but where he said, well,
you know in that situation, oh it was, yeah, it
was this week?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
When it was last week? When did he have to
throw backwards throw?
Speaker 7 (09:22):
That was in New York, so it would have been
last week.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
It was last week ye ago.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So he said, you know, I looked over there and
I threw it, and I should have never even been
looking over there, because in that situation you need chunks.
You know, he's he's he's got the mindset of there's
no point, and you know it's clear that Andy Reid's
coached that, like, there's don't take this.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
This is here to just.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Draw the defense to them and hopefully create a gap
for one of these guys that you have to go to.
And that was the thing we saw. I mean, it
was the first like ota that we could watch and
definitely the first practice that we could watch on him,
and they went out and they ran the two minute drill.
The year he wasn't even gonna start. First throw twenty
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seven yards, next throw sixteen yards, like he's run two
plays and they're already at the twenty something And how
many times did we watch Alex Smith get the ball
his own twenty six after they try to kick return
one fifty one and two timeouts and all of a sudden,
there's twenty six seconds and you're out of timeouts and
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you're at their forty nine. Right, you know you've got
you've burned over a minute and gone thirty yards, like
Baker Mayfield will lose the game, and so will Patrick Mahomes.
He did it to Buffalo. It was he here, yeah,
where he came out and had a shot and he
threw a pick right away. Like you if you don't
throw that pick, sometimes you're never gonna throw the touchdowns
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because at that point, Trick Green says it all the time.
You know you got another time score distance. There's a
time you got to take some chances, got to put
the ball at risk. You know, it's not when you're
up ten with four and a half to go, but
it is when you're down ten with four and a
half to go, that ball's got to go down the field.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I will say that I think first down bad plays
are bad decisions because in a two minute drill, you
literally only need to complete one out of four.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
To march down the field.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I mean, you hit four cracks and you hit one,
you gotta first down. I mean that's really and how
many seconds have you throw three incompletions?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
But there is but on first down is a good play?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Okay, fine, winning on first down, but he is winning
on first down checking down to the run back and
get him three yards while he's tackled in bounds.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
No, no, it's not. But throwing into double coverage. I agree,
But I'm not saying you were saying that. I'm just
saying I think there's to what tight window throws are
on the board. They gotta be made. You gotta move.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I mean the shorter, the shorter the clock, the more
you got to take them. Right. I mean, it's the
poker analogy.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
The guys that will shove all in early in a
tournament and then they lose because they ran up against
pocket ass or they had pocket aces and somebody drew
out on them. And then somebody's like, oh, I can't
believe you did that. I mean, it's so early in
the tournament. Is your goal to win or is your
goal to prolong how long your loss takes. But I
think so many coaches and certainly a lot of quarterbacks
are like, well I didn't lose it right there. Yeah,
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but your loss is inevitable because you're not going anywhere.
Better to send it down the field, take a shot
at winning, you know, whether it's early or late, like,
there are moments where this is the time you've got
to make it and just being like, well, you know,
like Dak Prescott, the story of the Cowboys is, well
we didn't you know, we didn't die right there. No,
you died because the clock ran out on you while
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you were trying to spot the ball after you ran,
instead of throwing it away or taking a shot at
a completion. Happens all the time.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
By the way, to continue the poker analogy, mine, my
object was always not to be out early.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
But that's because I suck.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, So if an acknowledge that I'm not winning, I
just want.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
To I just want to consider. I want to participate. Yeah,
I don't want to first participation medal. That's yeah, you
should aspire to more than that if you're good enough. Well,
I think, for instance, you know just I think Trevor
Lawrence has the combination of Baker Mayfield, but he can't
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do it.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I think I think Trevor Lawrence is does have the
attitude for it.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I don't know what Sam Bradford was going to be
if he wasn't hurt. I think he is.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I don't really even do you even remember, uh the
Kentucky kid was one one in front of Tim Couch.
I don't even remember him playing. It seemed like he
sucks so fast. I don't even have memories.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well for the Browns that get anyone Trevor.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Trevor Lawrence seems very Alex Smith to me that you
you you game plan for him not to lose the game.
For you, a running back or a wide out with
Yack better bust the big play, or your defense better
get the takeaway that matter.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I think they gained the formula for going to the
playoffs with him is ten and seven, eleven and six.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I think they game planned that way for him because
I think they do think he has a bit of
a gunslinger mentality. But he doesn't have the good to
pull it off.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I don't see that. He throws a lot of bad picks.
So that's what I'm saying. Now, maybe that's you.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
He doesn't throw the ball to Brian Thomas. I mean,
it's one of the most amazing things I've ever seen,
is that Mac Joe.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You look it up.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I think last year he had five or six one
hundred yard games, most of them at the end.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Not one of them came with Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence
is back.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
He has not sniffed one hundred yards again this year,
And with Mac Jones coming down the stretch, you're like, oh,
he figured it out. He turned the corner. Look at him.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
This guy's a star and now he's well.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
There is an aspect of I think Matt Jones may
have that Baker Mayfield mentality.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think he figures, well, it.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Didn't work the first time around. If I'm gonna go down,
I'm gonna go down guns blazing.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Because I want to play.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think part of it might have been, like I
was in New England with literally nothing at wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I've got a guy, I'm feeding him the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
This looks different than the complete bag of Jags that
I was sent out to at best handle you know
in New England, So let's let it go.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I agree. Are the Jags a threat? Yeah? I think
they're a threat.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I think they'll be an amped up team on Monday
Night football, which isn't the platform it once was. But
they don't get a good platform very often. Their national
platforms are in the morning, right, That's when the CLA,
that's when the whole country can watch them against usually
a lackluster opponent. So I think it'll be a difficult atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
They've been able to run.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
The ball so far, the chief seven and grade against
the run, I think they have some things that can
hurt the Chiefs. Am I gonna pick them? No, but
I probably would. Is it still three and a half?
I think it might be three If I saw three
and a half latest, if it was three and a half,
i'd take the Jags. I would, But I don't think
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they're gonna win, but I would like three and a
half in this game.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I think the Chiefs should never bet an underdog. Can
they win?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
They can't. Yes, they can. Should never bet an underdog.
If you don't think they can, they can win in
the NFL. Totally can win.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
And to me, anytime I'm gonna take a field goal
or three and a half, I definitely am thinking the
team can win. I'm not gonna sit there and say
they'll never win, but currently three and a half looks good.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Three I'd probably just sit it out. Well, they've shaved
a little bit off, Yeah, right at three, I am.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I think this game will just be are the Chiefs
kind of gelling again or was last week just kind
of you know, the other team quit. I'm not going
to be like some people give the Chiefs no credit
for all the injuries and all the narratives that have
been brought up amount of the Jags, I mean the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
But I think they did look good.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
But we've got, you know, upwards of three years of
evidence now that the Chiefs offense is pretty mediocre. They
did get one piece back and he made a difference clearly,
But this is a good Jags defense. So I think
this is another revealing game. But I'm still to continue
the cards analogy waiting for validation from the Chiefs offense.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
I thought last week they looked and.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
If they do it do it again this week, then
I'm going to start to say, yeah, this might be
the year they bounced back to better form, and then
with more weapons coming down the line, it may get
even better. Because many people have had that seven week
seven week eight Chief's gonna be held on wheels. I'm
not ready to go there right now, but another good
performing you know, they go out, just take care of
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business on the road in a tough environment and put
up thirty one on offense.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm not talking about two pick sixes or something.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Thirty one on offense, then I'm gonna I'll be leaning
towards that side that maybe the Chiefs are really gonna
be a powerhouse again on offense.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
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Speaker 7 (19:33):
All right to Nick and Jake's into the hour answer.
That was a lot louder than initiative been. Cam Schlitler,
fourth pitcher, the start and win a winner, take all
game in his postseason debut. I asked for any of
the other three. All were within a two year span.
Jake Ariett of the Cubs in twenty fifteen, Dallas Kaykel
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of the Astros in twenty fifteen, Alex Cobb of the
Rays in twenty thirteen, all in the one game wild
Card ear up. All three on the road. So Schlittler
the first guy to do it at home.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Oh wow, you would think they would be the other
way around.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Most strikeouts ever in in a postseason game by a
picture making is major League his postseason debut twelve last night.
He's got some stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I felt bad for all announcers who have to call
a game with that man pitching.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Oh dude, I said, Oh dude, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I was really hoping he'd you got to make it like,
how many times do you have to say his name?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
One hundred? You know I mean? And never yeh, screw
it up once just calling Cam Cam's throw. If the
rookie delivers, Cam.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Set up the belt, here's the pitch, probably another strike
out for Cam. I did say that name as little
as I possibly could and still be.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
But I didn't hear any slip up, So good on them.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
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Speaker 4 (22:06):
Danny, mm hmm. But do what do you make of
the Kansas Jayhawks not beating Cincinnati? There are many a
Jayhawk fan that are.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
That are frustrated, well from year to year, and one
of them in college you know one of them, Yeah,
from year to year.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
In college football.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Now your player recruitment is going to be somewhat of
a crap shoot and if you don't get it right,
you're gonna give up six hundred three yards of offense.
And they look their offense, I mean, I mean their
defense just looks bad. I mean it looks bad. They
look a little bit small. I don't see an outstanding playmaker,
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so that can be a problem.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
They can just kill your season.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Because they've got a They've got high level play right
now from Jalen Daniels. Played great in the last game
and they lost. I expect them to lose at UCF.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I do I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Uh, we worry this and this is what a mutual
of Kansas fan we know said, we worry. This is
a window and it will close and we need to
win now.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Right Two. There is momentum in the athletic department as
there has been before, and without winning, that momentum will
subside as it did before. This is their fear.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I like it's because well, there's a there's there's way
too much history of mediocrity and worse in Kansas football.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
They were mediocre last year.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Obviously they beat three ranked teams in a row, but
you end up not making a bowl game if that
was repeated and I'm this this game is vital for
it not being repeated.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
All right, but but this is you know, what is
your expectation for this program?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Just because because when it's when it's when they're two
and ten and one and eleven to twelve, everyone tells
me they just want a competitive football team. And then
they get it and they immediately are telling me, well,
we've got this opportunity for winning.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Well what what what do you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Think your opportunity is? What do you think you are
at Kansas in football?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
What I think in any in any program, the expectation
has to be pretty regular bowl games because the bar
is so low to make a bowl game check right, well,
not two out of three, right, But if they if
they don't do it last year, it'll be consecutive years
without a bowl game.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
They do this year, you get right?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, yes, if they don't, and at that point, let.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Me know, right, well, I agree with that, I wouldn't
be in panic mode.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I mean, Missouri, we're talking about going to the playoffs.
They led them in the fourth quarter. What do you
think is so wrong with Kansas football When you're leading
about to be top ten SEC team in the fourth
quarter at their yard.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
What do you think is so wrong?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Six hundred and three yards of offense by the apposent
in your home field.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I'm not saying I'm panicking or anything. I think they've
got the guys.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
If they gave up two hundred and five yards and
lost thirteen to ten, then it'd be okay, well they
would You're just you know, they wouldn't have lost.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
They're playing their competitive But yes, if.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
They I'm saying, if they just taken their resources instead
of putting them into the offense and put them into
the defense and lost by the same margin twenty to
ten with a late touchdown or seventeen to seven with
a late touchdown run that made it ten points, does
that look better? Like that? Like, I don't like your
answer because it's just like, well, this is their flault.
Yes they have a flaw, but they're competitive, right, and
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they're always everybody has a fault. Their problem is the defense.
There's no doubt that is their issue. But they are
playing toe to toe with a top fifteen SEC team.
Cincinnati is good. Their quarterback was just graded this past
week as the number six quarterback in the country, and
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so they look in a back and forth game. They
led in the fourth quarter of both those games. So
like the idea when I hear like, well, we're so
worried that we might, you know, we might not capitalize
on this little window that we want.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
To fire that guy. I didn't say that, No, but
that but that's but you're giving credence to give to that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Okay, Well, I just think I think it's preposterous to
not acknowledge how far the program has come. And we,
if you listen to this program, have said we want
to be clear. The easy jump is the one win
to five, Yes.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Two to six, that that first jump is the big one.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
That that's that's the that that's easy.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
That that that looks good because it's four wins, But
the next four wins from it's exponential six to seven
is everything it took to go from two to six,
seven to eight?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Is that squared?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
That My expectation for Kansas is is slightly higher because
of the current construction of the big Well they don't
they really aren't powerhouse.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Programs in this conference right now.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Okay, so, but still I don't think you should expect
that this is going to be a regular playoff contender.
Or something that's just right now has not been in
the DNA of Kansas football. But right now, I'm just
talking about this snapshot right here. They lost last week,
giving up six hundred yards. They're going to UCF. I
think they're going to lose if but it's an important game.
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And if they look good and beat UCF, like Kansas
State just beat UCF.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Good. If they lose, they're going to Texas Tech the
next week. Good luck. What do you think Texas Tech is.
I think they're really good. Okay, I mean, they just
whooped Utah on the road.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I think Utah is the everyone is William's done a
nice job, and so it's like, oh, okay, they're gonna
be good.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
There.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I kept going like, well, why are they bouncing back?
Why do we think Utah is just bouncing back? And
that was the one we've been talking about. I'm like, well,
everybody says Utah is good.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I don't get why.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
It's just well, his past performance is such that I
think Texas Tech they Listen, Let's be clear, Texas Tech
should be the best team in this league. They have
by far spent the most money on their roster. Right,
so if they don't win the league. I'm not going
to say it's a disaster or failure because injuries and
things can happen. But they're supposed to be good, right
(28:22):
But and if they if they go eleven and one,
we'll be like, Okay, they're the new Texas and they're
spending the money and let's go.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
But let's let it.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
You know, play out is your prediction that they are
going to go eleven and one, ten and two? What
do you think Texas Tech is good? In one way? No,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I think that this league is a league just going
to struggle to get a lot of years, is going
to struggle to get more than one playoff team unless
they expand because they're the teams. Are the programs are
really equal?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yes? And so and G two said that on Tuesday?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I said, well, and he said, well, the way it's
the way, it's so balanced, it's gonna be hard to
get too.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
They acknowledge that.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But is that a better league getting one and having
a league that every year everybody thinks they've got a shot,
or is it better to have two teams kicking your
ass every year and those two teams the thing so
every year for your league but it's never ever you,
and it's never ever gonna be you.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I think it's much more interesting to have the league
the way it is now. I agree, you start every
year basically right now. Now, maybe Texas Tech turns themselves
into a powerhouse because they spend, but who knows if
they're gonna spend.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Year after year after year. We don't know that.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
But right now there's a bunch of programs that are
serious about football. None looks like they're gonna be a disaster.
And player procurement, as I said, is somewhat of a
crap shoot from year to year. And I think every
year you can start out the year thinking that.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You have a chance in the league and so explain
to me at least on this or tell me, no,
this is flat wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
We have a window here. I think that's old reaction
because what I think, how is the window closed?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
What what is the part that's closing because Texas Tech
is going to become Texas Okay, I'll listen to that,
we'll see if it how.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I think it's because Kansas has generally been a bad
football program. That's historically is it in the water, it's
been a bad No, it's not in the water, But
the mindset of the fans is going to be once
we get something going good.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I know, but I'm asking asking me about that now,
I'm asking you, do you agree with that that there's
a window?
Speaker 5 (30:27):
No? I think that this league is super competitive and
Kansas should be thought of right there with just every
these programs are very similar.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Right now, I do get the what is it the
Stockholm syndrome? You know, you start to you know, you
start to love your captor or appreciate your captor, like
your catra whatever it is, because like that's all you know,
right Like, I get it. But there is no excuse
for how bad Kansas football was for as long as
it was bad, right none. Now, there are many factors
(30:57):
that contributed to it, but you have unraveled them and
the concept you want you know, what happened last time
you fired the coach that was winning? Like you can't
can't you even see that you're tracking.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Down the same path of what set you back?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Like right now, if Travis Goff was one getting free
exercise equipment, uh through the university, and then two you
don't remember that with lou Perkinson two was you know,
clearly making it clear to everybody around that he didn't
like the coach, he wasn't his coach, and he was
going to let him go.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
And we know he is his coach.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Then you should fire Travis Goff because the football program
is winning at a level that this program doesn't normally
win at. Now. The good news is Travis Goff is
not doing that, and Traviscoff hired this guy. But like,
you're not going to just as the Royals, Like I
think the Royals fans hopefully this year. You know, you
talk about validating it the Chiefs having a game and
(31:57):
validating it. The Royals validated last year. Irew with this season, right,
and so I think I'm hopeful.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
But I will tell you if they start ten and
sixteen next year.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
J J.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Picole got to go if you want just more two points.
But my point is this, that's not the case.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like JJ Piccolan knows what he's doing, and I'm here
to tell you they've had enough good seasons that Lance
Lightpel knows what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
He does.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I agree, and I think that, but I think that
there's the fear. The fear is there that hey, we've
got the stadium, we ask this people for money for
the next second part of the renovation is next year
we start having losing seasons and those people are just
gonna say, nap, I'm spending my money on.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
The basketball team.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I think that's the fear, because you know there are
finite resources. I don't think it's a program that has
a whole slew of people with the kind of deep
pockets that they generally cope back to the same people
to get the money from.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
And that's probably part of the fear too.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So how many wins does Lance lifele have to have
this year to allay the fear?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
To me?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Six six and you're like, Okay, that's he's good, right,
he's good.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Well, I don't think even if he won three, I'm
not firing the guy. But I just think that any year,
especially in a league that's his balance as the Big
twelve Bowl Game is, should be like three out of
four years at least, or it's not good any program,
(33:30):
but it's for Kansas included.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
The bar's too low.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
You get you generally get at least one, generally two
sometimes three free wins, So.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I think it's harder in a league and the SEC
schools will figure this out, right, Yeah, it's harder in
a league when you play nine conference games, because everyone's like, well,
you know, half those teams are.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Gonna win, I know, and half are going to lose,
and all that.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That whole half that's going to lose that ninth game,
they would have played some pisshant rummy and it would
have been a win. And they're all going to have
another loss and it's going to be different.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
And also there are mandates for who you can play
in the non conference. Now, oh, they'll drop that real quick.
You watch, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I mean, they they they're these conferences. These athletic directors
now are so money conscious that unless they feel like,
no matter who they trot out on the field, they're
not going to lose attendance that day, and in many
cases that's true, they're not. Then maybe they don't want
to do that, or maybe they don't want twenty thousand
(34:29):
people not showing up even though they've got tickets to
the game and to drink beer and spend one hundred
dollars on concessions that day. Yeah, you know, because it's Troy.
I don't know, but I don't The sky's not falling.
But I just think if you have a really terrible
defense and they look like they have a terrible defense,
it can submarine your season, even if you're getting good
(34:51):
offensive play, because.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You're just helpless.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I mean, so far, the other teams have been able
to run the football, throw the football to whatever they've wanted.
You know, he just looks like stopping them on four
downs looks difficult right now, and that's a tough hill
to climb.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
There's no they've got defense problems, no doubt. But I mean,
his side of the ball is working well.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
He doesn't really have a side.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
Of the ball.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
He's an offense. He played quarterback, that's I know. But
he even he's even says himself that he's not.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
He's definitely the CEO of it. But that's the side
of the ball he comes from. It's a lot more
alarming when your side of the ball sucks. And I
think all you gotta do is look at Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
And they can win. Animals fix the defense. He couldn't score.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Now he's got people in place and got a quarterback
and they're scoring and they look pretty good.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
You can hire defensive coordinator and solve it.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Well, their offense is good enough to win a couple
of games, you know, forty five thirty seven, So maybe
that will maybe that will save the season.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
But I'm just saying when a coach has a side
of the ball, they all do. None of them are
are I.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Don't know, it'sland Switzerland.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I was going to say, yeah, but I don't know what.
I was trying to come up with something.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Cute for it.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
But it's when they're when their side of the ball
sucks like alarm bells, right right, alarm bells. But if
the other side is as good as this one is,
you'd still even probably not notice it as much. But
like there, he needs to find the right guy on
defense and or and let me offer you this, there
(36:24):
is donor fatigue, and they are behind on what they're
paying their roster because they're putting so much into the stadium.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
I think that's part of what we're hearing from that
fan there, that they're that he's concerned about donor fatigue.
And you cannot have donor fatigue in this college foot
college sports landscape.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, I agree, But I think I think once that's
paid for, they're not gonna have to.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Build a stadium again in a few years.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Will they have to build make the weight room bigger. Well,
they have to add some more hot tubs. It appears
so that that's where it's going. Although they have to
pay players more, yes they will, but you won't have
to build another stadium.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
But on the back end of that, if they're coming
off three nine Bowl seasons, are these people going to
want to give them money?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
No? Right, No, for sure, for sure, that's it. That's
the concern.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
But I do think the ground that he has what
the job was hard when he got there. It was
ridiculous getting the late start, but it was a hard
job when he got there and going through all this.
It's wonderful that it's all coming. But you know, playing
last year at somebody else, at other people's stadiums that
can't We'll give you fifty grand.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
We'll give you fifty grand. Hey, where are you playing.
We're playing right here. It's going to be fun. Where
are you playing? Well, we've got to drive to Kansas
City and we got to do this and that. Oh okay,
next year they're going to play it reduced capacity.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, So I mean it is, and I think that's
something that should be championed with ELI Drink Witz with
what's going on with him winning, and they've been in
a kind of a perpetual stadium remodeled seemingly like three
on three off, three on three off for like a
decade now, and he's winning. So I mean, I think,
but I think fans need to recognize it. Certainly, administration
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Speaker 4 (39:55):
Cats are all fixed though, right, we don't have anything
to worry about there.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Right, they looked fixed, I'll say that. But this is
a tough week for them. They're going against a Baylor
team that also has big defensive problems but can really
really throw the foot.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
They really just score. They're just good across the board offensively.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
So this is another game in the Big Twelve where
it's important for both teams. Each team would get a
second league loss with a loss, but same thing, same
thing as the Chiefs. This is kind of let's validate
a good performance. They had been looking shaky and last
(40:38):
week they had most of the bases covered, and now
are they going to get to be able to handle
a track meet, which it almost is pretty certain to be.
The quarterback for Baylor is thrown for basically four hundred
yards three out of the five games, three ninety three
and then two four hundreds, and he's moved enough the
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charts as far as what people think in a weak
quarterback class of somebody who might be a first round
draft pick. The defense is the coach's side of the ball,
so you would think that maybe they'll make some improvements there.
They've had real trouble Baylor has, so I think it's
an intriguing game. Road games in the Big Twelve for
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teams that aren't rolling. I'm probably generally going to lean
to the home team, and I am in this case,
so that would indicate that, no, it's not all fixed
if they're going to go lose. How can I say
it's fixed if I'm saying they're going to go lose.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Dylan Edwards makes a big difference.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
He does, but he's a physical time time bomb waiting
to explode at any time because he's really small. But
he's a dynamic player when he plays. And is Avery
Johnson's mindset of being aggressive running the football a one
game thing or is he going to really get married
(42:02):
to it again? Is he really happy with where he
is at case State or does he want to go
somewhere else. There's a lot of questions there, and their
defense looked better for one game.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So if Avery Johnson went somewhere, is it definitely going
to be a success.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
No, he hasn't definitely been a success at k State. Yeah,
but you know he's probably if he were to go.
I'm not saying he's going to go and maybe.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Well there may very well be a team that'll give
him more money than what Case State has, but I
think he would be wise to stick with familiar territory,
put in the work you know what you did. He
was at the Manning passing camp. And I'm not saying
he doesn't work, but I mean, just keep working. I
don't know that running off to another place. If he
went to another place, it better be to a place
that's got an offensive guru.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I think the problem for people like Avery Johnson when
they're looking at what they want to do, is how
many success stories there have been of quarterbacks who all
of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
Here they are.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Well, Joe's in his fourth stop here at you know,
we started at Sacramento State and now he's in he's
having a breakout.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Season here at Baylor.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
I mean it's there's there's a lot of them, and
so a lot of times people are gonna think the
grass is greener somewhere else, maybe think things there's too
much familiarity.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Maybe he's happy as can be, but I mean I've
heard some things that maybe he's not so. Uh So,
this is an important game from that aspect too. They
win games, here's.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
A lot of problems.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
We mentioned they win eight games this year. He's probably
I would say he's probably staying.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
We mentioned the quarterback rankings, which in which Brennan Soursby
is sixth. The top six quarterbacks in that ranking are
all transfers, the USC, Vanderbilt, Ole, Miss, Indiana, Oregon, and Sincy.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
So I mean that's right, I mean it's almost it's almost.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
It's almost be the USC.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I'd be like, you can't deny the going and playing
for Lincoln Riley, right, Like, if that would happen, that
would be I can't say that's a bad movie, Howard,
because that guy, that's all he does is turn out
pro quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
But really, when you watch a college football game, if
they have a quarterback who's just been with their program,
that's unusual.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yes, it's not the it's not the other way around.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Jalen Daniels is not the standard. Fair, No, he is
very unusual. He stayed with him, he stayed with him
through injury, and he's played great. He still makes the occasional,
you know, bonehead play and he tries a little too
hard sometimes and that cost him fumble last time, and
then in the game down near the goal line, which
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is a huge play. Kansas also has a problem and
whether this is just happenstance. A few times in a row,
they've lost a lot of close games the last two years,
a lot of games.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
In most score games.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Right, So is that an intrinsic problem that doesn't strike
me as a reality, you know, because they have a
quarterback and can drive you down the field and he
did last week.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
And scored a touchdown with what.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
Right back?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Right?
Speaker 7 (45:06):
So last week?
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Uh so the.
Speaker 7 (45:11):
Rated tenth on that line.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
The Cats could play better and lose, say that.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Which would mean sort of, you know, maybe they're problem that,
maybe they're just a good team that lost to another
team that's good. There's, like I said, a lot of
balance in this league, and games are difficult to win
on the road. That's not a difficult place to play
atmosphere wise at Baylor, but it's going to be about
a million degrees and you would think that Baylor's players
(45:36):
have a little bit of an advantage that they practice
in it all the time. We've got that we've got
practicing in the dry, dry fall heat that we've had
that you pointed out, it's.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Dry down there too. It's it's try and wake up. No,
it's near the ocean. It's maybe not so Waco. Well,
it's near the ocean, relatively near the ocean.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Closer to the Ocean. From Waco to the oce, well,
Waco is not near anywhere, so.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
It's not that far. It's like an hour southwest of Dallas. Right,
it's mostly sour than that.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
I've driven it hour by what plane?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I think they I was thinking, if you're on the
outskirts of town, I know, maybe I'm thinking of Austin.
I know Austin's not that close either, but I was
thinking of I don't know what it was because we
were looking at looking at some schools and whatnot and
good school.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Well, we weren't looking at Baylor. Make that clear.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
Austin is Sarah. Waco was ninety five miles driving from Dallas.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Oh, that's an hour for you. That's it is an
break down.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
Thirty five.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
There you go. So I'm right, I'm right, good job.
I know.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I'm sure it's more than ninety I'm sure it's more
than ninety five miles.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
In Houston, I was thinking more of you.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
No, don't put in Houston, putting Galveston. Houston is not
the ocean. Putting in like Galveston or.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Something in Houston. Houston is actually fairly close. Oh, it's
very close to Galveston, which is on the water. It's
not close to the two hundred and forty miles. Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Oh, it's right next door, right by the practically beachfront property.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
It's a two and a half hour drive for you.
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If you if you live in a ten story condo,
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Speaker 4 (01:37):
Danny, how are you, sir? Coming in hot? Really? So
you've been drinking all afternoon? Yeah, yeah, that's me day drinking.
That term that is a term coming in hot, usually means.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Yeah, you're tex Oh, oh, I didn't know. Sometimes it
means you're going to be you're running late.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It can it can be either way.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, running late is the one I've seen because people
use it in golf a lot, Like you're meeting somebody
for a round of golf and they'll say you got
a twelve thirty five tea time and then say I'm
coming in hot at twelve thirty. You know they are
running late doing business or something. So that's that's the
way I know the phrase, I didn't know that somebody
(02:18):
was tanked if they were coming in hot.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
That's one of the ways I've heard it. Used. It
sounds like a versatile phrase. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Also it could describe what, you know, just walking from
my car to in the building and it's ninety one degrees.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It's a warm one sure in October, it's a dry
heat in the fall. Though.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It does make it better, it does. Yeah, Oh it
makes a yeah. I don't even start to argue at
that point. No, ninety one in like you know, June
fifteenth is like, oh.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
My god, yeah, yeah, this is it's nicer. But am
I am I being forced to wander around a giant's.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Crotch or something here? Like what is going on? This
is awful? And now it's just warm?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
That's not unpleasant out there today. No, I mean, if
you're I mean, if I was out there doing yard work,
I probably say I wish it was a little cooler.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, but I was not doing any yard work today.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So your biggest fan that I know sent me a
little nugget that they want, said Danny's favorite pundit on
ESPN with a.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Great take, Oh damn dirty dirty Dan dan Orlovsky made
the points.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Let me see, I was trying to open up the
there goes quote.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I truly truly believe if mac Jones was drafted by
the forty nine ers at number three in that draft,
he would be one of the top ten quarterbacks in
the NFL. Last night was the best game I've ever
seen him play. Okay, so that means that's what he'd
be every game for the he's.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Been, he's been kind of warm. Although please don't ruin
those set of times they're tangled.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But I'm not gonna go pulling them as hard as
you can in opposite directions is not helping.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I just untangled him, so suck it.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Usually, uh, usually, now I don't get that many hot
takes from Dan because usually when he appears on screen
changed that changed the channel. Yeah, I think he's you know,
is he supposed to be wiser now that.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
He's letting his hair go gray and he's got a
little gray beard. You know, I don't know he's a sage. Yeah,
he's a he smells like sage. Maybe that's about his
sage as he gets.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Danny Dimes, you know, he's played pretty well as a
fill in. That's that's probably what his career are.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Mac Jones or you said Danny Dimes? Like, are we
moving on to Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
What are we doing with Jones?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
By my, my, my bad. I think mac Jones is
a viable quarterback, you know, I think he but I
think he's probably in his best role, a good, bad,
you know, excellent backup sort of what we've seen a
couple of the Chiefs backups morph into okay, capable of starting.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I like, I like Mac Jones. I think he to me,
I also liked Baker Mayfield. There have been a number
guy like that Tua. When everyone's like, oh, he's just
all he's terrible, I'm like, he's not. Listen, he's not Mahomes.
But who do you think you have instead? Like, I mean,
that's what I'll say. You know, the Patriots ultimately did
end up getting Drake may right, so they've got a
(05:24):
guy who.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He looks he looks good. I like what I see
at him. But like, you know, Mac Jones. Do you
think who's better Trevor Lawrence or Mac Jones?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
You know, that's that's a viable question. And for the
Jaguars that's not not good that Mac Jones are. You
know that there should be no argument there. It should
be Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
But it's not it's not and when it when it's
a question, you should not have a paid Trevor Lawrence,
I'm out in the cash and b should consider going
with the cheaper option. I mean, like if you if
you are on a like teams are just so afraid
of the unknown, and like if you can't be like,
you know, Mac Jones could play, Baker Mayfield could play.
(06:06):
There's a guy who right now, you know, Sam Donald
could play a little. I didn't see the Sam Donald coming.
That's why I give great, you know, credit to O'Connell.
I was like, my buddy JD was all about him
having a big year with the Viking. Say he's gonna
a big year. I'll give JD tons of credit for
that because I'm like, whatever he does, owe me five
(06:26):
hundred you do only five hundred bucks. Says he didn't
finish top three in Fantasy as JD said he would.
Still I've been paid on that. But you know, we'll see,
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I think O'Connell's proving quarterback after quarterback that he's got
something going. Oh and if he ever gets a truly
good one, and it would.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Have been nice and it wouldn't have been nice because
it would have been Patrick Mahomes got hurt. But I
would like to have seen what ay Reid did with
Carson Wentz with the full squad around him. You know,
all we saw was the game filled with backups. So
it's clear he's not Patrick Mahomes, right because Mahomes with
backup one in Denver. But Carson Wentz making Carson Wentz
(07:05):
look like a star Again's pretty impressive.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah, And I thought that Carson Wentz maybe had too
much scar tissue, and so you know that's working right now.
So I think that it would it be surprised shocked
to me if mac Jones did a Baker Mayfield eventually,
But they're big. Part of Baker Mayfield's success is he's
got an absolute, full pavered basket of WTF he well
(07:36):
he was.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Also, he's also got a full basket of a good
line he had last year. We'll see how it goes
this year, a good play caller and Liam Cohen and
a bunch of good receivers.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
By that, I mean he doesn't give a agreed.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
You know, he's gonna let it. He's going to be
a gunslinger and if it hurts him like it killed
him when he threw the first first down interception last week. Then,
not that he likes the fact that he did it,
but that's his mindset and that's what has helped make
him good and given him the ability to bounce back
from his bouncing around looking like he might not even
(08:09):
be a backup in the league, and now he's I
don't know, he's a clue.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Is he at the edge of tier one or two
and Mike Sandos top of tier two something like, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Where Mike had m I was founds about right. I
was pretty big on him. I got kind of laughed at.
We did our quarterback tiers on the podcast, and I
was by far the highest on Baker Mayfield because I mean,
I like that he can buy a new set of
downs with his legs. He's tough, he is fearless. He's
not afraid to make a mistake. I mean, I'm gonna
tell you you want to if you want to consistently
(08:43):
be able to move the ball at the end of
a game when you have to, when it's short, you're
going to watch the guy lose a game. And if
a guy never, never flat out makes a mistake, losing
the game. Never throws a pick to lose a game
in that situation, He's never going.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
To win it for you.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That's Dak Prescott, that's Alex Smith, you know, the guy
that like, oh, I'm gonna check it down.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I mean, Mahomes said it was it. I don't remember
what game.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I thought it was this week, but where he said, well,
you know in that situation, oh it was, yeah, it
was this week?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
When it was last week? When did he have to
throw backwards throw?
Speaker 7 (09:22):
That was in New York, so it would have been
last week.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
It was last week ye ago.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So he said, you know, I looked over there and
I threw it, and I should have never even been
looking over there, because in that situation you need chunks.
You know, he's he's he's got the mindset of there's
no point, and you know it's clear that Andy Reid's
coached that, like, there's don't take this.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
This is here to just.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Draw the defense to them and hopefully create a gap
for one of these guys that you have to go to.
And that was the thing we saw. I mean, it
was the first like ota that we could watch and
definitely the first practice that we could watch on him,
and they went out and they ran the two minute drill.
The year he wasn't even gonna start. First throw twenty
(10:05):
seven yards, next throw sixteen yards, like he's run two
plays and they're already at the twenty something And how
many times did we watch Alex Smith get the ball
his own twenty six after they try to kick return
one fifty one and two timeouts and all of a sudden,
there's twenty six seconds and you're out of timeouts and
(10:27):
you're at their forty nine. Right, you know you've got
you've burned over a minute and gone thirty yards, like
Baker Mayfield will lose the game, and so will Patrick Mahomes.
He did it to Buffalo. It was he here, yeah,
where he came out and had a shot and he
threw a pick right away. Like you if you don't
throw that pick, sometimes you're never gonna throw the touchdowns
(10:48):
because at that point, Trick Green says it all the time.
You know you got another time score distance. There's a
time you got to take some chances, got to put
the ball at risk. You know, it's not when you're
up ten with four and a half to go, but
it is when you're down ten with four and a
half to go, that ball's got to go down the field.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I will say that I think first down bad plays
are bad decisions because in a two minute drill, you
literally only need to complete one out of four.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
To march down the field.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I mean, you hit four cracks and you hit one,
you gotta first down. I mean that's really and how
many seconds have you throw three incompletions?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
But there is but on first down is a good play?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Okay, fine, winning on first down, but he is winning
on first down checking down to the run back and
get him three yards while he's tackled in bounds.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
No, no, it's not. But throwing into double coverage. I agree,
But I'm not saying you were saying that. I'm just
saying I think there's to what tight window throws are
on the board. They gotta be made. You gotta move.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I mean the shorter, the shorter the clock, the more
you got to take them. Right. I mean, it's the
poker analogy.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
The guys that will shove all in early in a
tournament and then they lose because they ran up against
pocket ass or they had pocket aces and somebody drew
out on them. And then somebody's like, oh, I can't
believe you did that. I mean, it's so early in
the tournament. Is your goal to win or is your
goal to prolong how long your loss takes. But I
think so many coaches and certainly a lot of quarterbacks
are like, well I didn't lose it right there. Yeah,
(12:23):
but your loss is inevitable because you're not going anywhere.
Better to send it down the field, take a shot
at winning, you know, whether it's early or late, like,
there are moments where this is the time you've got
to make it and just being like, well, you know,
like Dak Prescott, the story of the Cowboys is, well
we didn't you know, we didn't die right there. No,
you died because the clock ran out on you while
(12:44):
you were trying to spot the ball after you ran,
instead of throwing it away or taking a shot at
a completion. Happens all the time.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
By the way, to continue the poker analogy, mine, my
object was always not to be out early.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
But that's because I suck.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, So if an acknowledge that I'm not winning, I
just want.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
To I just want to consider. I want to participate. Yeah,
I don't want to first participation medal. That's yeah, you
should aspire to more than that if you're good enough. Well,
I think, for instance, you know just I think Trevor
Lawrence has the combination of Baker Mayfield, but he can't
(13:26):
do it.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I think I think Trevor Lawrence is does have the
attitude for it.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I don't know what Sam Bradford was going to be
if he wasn't hurt. I think he is.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I don't really even do you even remember, uh the
Kentucky kid was one one in front of Tim Couch.
I don't even remember him playing. It seemed like he
sucks so fast. I don't even have memories.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well for the Browns that get anyone Trevor.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Trevor Lawrence seems very Alex Smith to me that you
you you game plan for him not to lose the game.
For you, a running back or a wide out with
Yack better bust the big play, or your defense better
get the takeaway that matter.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I think they gained the formula for going to the
playoffs with him is ten and seven, eleven and six.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I think they game planned that way for him because
I think they do think he has a bit of
a gunslinger mentality. But he doesn't have the good to
pull it off.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I don't see that. He throws a lot of bad picks.
So that's what I'm saying. Now, maybe that's you.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
He doesn't throw the ball to Brian Thomas. I mean,
it's one of the most amazing things I've ever seen,
is that Mac Joe.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You look it up.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I think last year he had five or six one
hundred yard games, most of them at the end.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Not one of them came with Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence
is back.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
He has not sniffed one hundred yards again this year,
And with Mac Jones coming down the stretch, you're like, oh,
he figured it out. He turned the corner. Look at him.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
This guy's a star and now he's well.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
There is an aspect of I think Matt Jones may
have that Baker Mayfield mentality.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think he figures, well, it.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Didn't work the first time around. If I'm gonna go down,
I'm gonna go down guns blazing.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Because I want to play.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I think part of it might have been, like I
was in New England with literally nothing at wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I've got a guy, I'm feeding him the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
This looks different than the complete bag of Jags that
I was sent out to at best handle you know
in New England, So let's let it go.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I agree. Are the Jags a threat? Yeah? I think
they're a threat.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I think they'll be an amped up team on Monday
Night football, which isn't the platform it once was. But
they don't get a good platform very often. Their national
platforms are in the morning, right, That's when the CLA,
that's when the whole country can watch them against usually
a lackluster opponent. So I think it'll be a difficult atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
They've been able to run.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
The ball so far, the chief seven and grade against
the run, I think they have some things that can
hurt the Chiefs. Am I gonna pick them? No, but
I probably would. Is it still three and a half?
I think it might be three If I saw three
and a half latest, if it was three and a half,
i'd take the Jags. I would, But I don't think
(16:17):
they're gonna win, but I would like three and a
half in this game.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I think the Chiefs should never bet an underdog. Can
they win?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
They can't. Yes, they can. Should never bet an underdog.
If you don't think they can, they can win in
the NFL. Totally can win.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
And to me, anytime I'm gonna take a field goal
or three and a half, I definitely am thinking the
team can win. I'm not gonna sit there and say
they'll never win, but currently three and a half looks good.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Three I'd probably just sit it out. Well, they've shaved
a little bit off, Yeah, right at three, I am.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I think this game will just be are the Chiefs
kind of gelling again or was last week just kind
of you know, the other team quit. I'm not going
to be like some people give the Chiefs no credit
for all the injuries and all the narratives that have
been brought up amount of the Jags, I mean the Ravens.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
But I think they did look good.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
But we've got, you know, upwards of three years of
evidence now that the Chiefs offense is pretty mediocre. They
did get one piece back and he made a difference clearly,
But this is a good Jags defense. So I think
this is another revealing game. But I'm still to continue
the cards analogy waiting for validation from the Chiefs offense.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
I thought last week they looked and.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
If they do it do it again this week, then
I'm going to start to say, yeah, this might be
the year they bounced back to better form, and then
with more weapons coming down the line, it may get
even better. Because many people have had that seven week
seven week eight Chief's gonna be held on wheels. I'm
not ready to go there right now, but another good
performing you know, they go out, just take care of
(18:08):
business on the road in a tough environment and put
up thirty one on offense.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I'm not talking about two pick sixes or something.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Thirty one on offense, then I'm gonna I'll be leaning
towards that side that maybe the Chiefs are really gonna
be a powerhouse again on offense.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
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Speaker 7 (19:33):
All right to Nick and Jake's into the hour answer.
That was a lot louder than initiative been. Cam Schlitler,
fourth pitcher, the start and win a winner, take all
game in his postseason debut. I asked for any of
the other three. All were within a two year span.
Jake Ariett of the Cubs in twenty fifteen, Dallas Kaykel
(19:53):
of the Astros in twenty fifteen, Alex Cobb of the
Rays in twenty thirteen, all in the one game wild
Card ear up. All three on the road. So Schlittler
the first guy to do it at home.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Oh wow, you would think they would be the other
way around.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Most strikeouts ever in in a postseason game by a
picture making is major League his postseason debut twelve last night.
He's got some stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I felt bad for all announcers who have to call
a game with that man pitching.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Oh dude, I said, Oh dude, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I was really hoping he'd you got to make it like,
how many times do you have to say his name?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
One hundred? You know I mean? And never yeh, screw
it up once just calling Cam Cam's throw. If the
rookie delivers, Cam.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Set up the belt, here's the pitch, probably another strike
out for Cam. I did say that name as little
as I possibly could and still be.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
But I didn't hear any slip up, So good on them.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Danny is with us here in the program as we
make our way through a busy Friday. By the way,
just give me Nick and Jakes. They're wonderful Octoberfest menu.
Go ahead and take advantage of it. The jumbo Bavarian
pretzel a great option. How about the German beef gulash?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
How good was that?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Fabulous?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That was absolutely wine in that I was trying to
figure out what the bands there were.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
It was really good pretzel and gulash. That's that's a
I'll take. That's a full meal. Right.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
If someone sat down your puny as someone sat down
and ate heaping helping of Nick and Jake's gulash and
the whole pretzel.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
That seems like that seems like a prize should be getting.
I'm giving you a hard time, but that pretzel is giant.
It is great.
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Speaker 4 (22:06):
Danny, mm hmm. But do what do you make of
the Kansas Jayhawks not beating Cincinnati? There are many a
Jayhawk fan that are.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
That are frustrated, well from year to year, and one
of them in college you know one of them, Yeah,
from year to year.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
In college football.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Now your player recruitment is going to be somewhat of
a crap shoot and if you don't get it right,
you're gonna give up six hundred three yards of offense.
And they look their offense, I mean, I mean their
defense just looks bad. I mean it looks bad. They
look a little bit small. I don't see an outstanding playmaker,
(22:49):
so that can be a problem.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
They can just kill your season.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Because they've got a They've got high level play right
now from Jalen Daniels. Played great in the last game
and they lost. I expect them to lose at UCF.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I do I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Uh, we worry this and this is what a mutual
of Kansas fan we know said, we worry. This is
a window and it will close and we need to
win now.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Right Two. There is momentum in the athletic department as
there has been before, and without winning, that momentum will
subside as it did before. This is their fear.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I like it's because well, there's a there's there's way
too much history of mediocrity and worse in Kansas football.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
They were mediocre last year.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Obviously they beat three ranked teams in a row, but
you end up not making a bowl game if that
was repeated and I'm this this game is vital for
it not being repeated.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
All right, but but this is you know, what is
your expectation for this program?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Just because because when it's when it's when they're two
and ten and one and eleven to twelve, everyone tells
me they just want a competitive football team. And then
they get it and they immediately are telling me, well,
we've got this opportunity for winning.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Well what what what do you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Think your opportunity is? What do you think you are
at Kansas in football?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
What I think in any in any program, the expectation
has to be pretty regular bowl games because the bar
is so low to make a bowl game check right, well,
not two out of three, right, But if they if
they don't do it last year, it'll be consecutive years
without a bowl game.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
They do this year, you get right?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, yes, if they don't, and at that point, let.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Me know, right, well, I agree with that, I wouldn't
be in panic mode.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I mean, Missouri, we're talking about going to the playoffs.
They led them in the fourth quarter. What do you
think is so wrong with Kansas football When you're leading
about to be top ten SEC team in the fourth
quarter at their yard.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
What do you think is so wrong?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Six hundred and three yards of offense by the apposent
in your home field.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I'm not saying I'm panicking or anything. I think they've
got the guys.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
If they gave up two hundred and five yards and
lost thirteen to ten, then it'd be okay, well they
would You're just you know, they wouldn't have lost.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
They're playing their competitive But yes, if.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
They I'm saying, if they just taken their resources instead
of putting them into the offense and put them into
the defense and lost by the same margin twenty to
ten with a late touchdown or seventeen to seven with
a late touchdown run that made it ten points, does
that look better? Like that? Like, I don't like your
answer because it's just like, well, this is their flault.
Yes they have a flaw, but they're competitive, right, and
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they're always everybody has a fault. Their problem is the defense.
There's no doubt that is their issue. But they are
playing toe to toe with a top fifteen SEC team.
Cincinnati is good. Their quarterback was just graded this past
week as the number six quarterback in the country, and
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so they look in a back and forth game. They
led in the fourth quarter of both those games. So
like the idea when I hear like, well, we're so
worried that we might, you know, we might not capitalize
on this little window that we want.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
To fire that guy. I didn't say that, No, but
that but that's but you're giving credence to give to that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Okay, Well, I just think I think it's preposterous to
not acknowledge how far the program has come. And we,
if you listen to this program, have said we want
to be clear. The easy jump is the one win
to five, Yes.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Two to six, that that first jump is the big one.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
That that's that's the that that's easy.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
That that that looks good because it's four wins, But
the next four wins from it's exponential six to seven
is everything it took to go from two to six,
seven to eight?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Is that squared?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
That My expectation for Kansas is is slightly higher because
of the current construction of the big Well they don't
they really aren't powerhouse.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Programs in this conference right now.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Okay, so, but still I don't think you should expect
that this is going to be a regular playoff contender.
Or something that's just right now has not been in
the DNA of Kansas football. But right now, I'm just
talking about this snapshot right here. They lost last week,
giving up six hundred yards. They're going to UCF. I
think they're going to lose if but it's an important game.
(27:26):
And if they look good and beat UCF, like Kansas
State just beat UCF.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Good. If they lose, they're going to Texas Tech the
next week. Good luck. What do you think Texas Tech is.
I think they're really good. Okay, I mean, they just
whooped Utah on the road.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I think Utah is the everyone is William's done a
nice job, and so it's like, oh, okay, they're gonna
be good.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
There.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I kept going like, well, why are they bouncing back?
Why do we think Utah is just bouncing back? And
that was the one we've been talking about. I'm like, well,
everybody says Utah is good.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I don't get why.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
It's just well, his past performance is such that I
think Texas Tech they Listen, Let's be clear, Texas Tech
should be the best team in this league. They have
by far spent the most money on their roster. Right,
so if they don't win the league. I'm not going
to say it's a disaster or failure because injuries and
things can happen. But they're supposed to be good, right
(28:22):
But and if they if they go eleven and one,
we'll be like, Okay, they're the new Texas and they're
spending the money and let's go.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
But let's let it.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
You know, play out is your prediction that they are
going to go eleven and one, ten and two? What
do you think Texas Tech is good? In one way? No,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I think that this league is a league just going
to struggle to get a lot of years, is going
to struggle to get more than one playoff team unless
they expand because they're the teams. Are the programs are
really equal?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yes? And so and G two said that on Tuesday?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I said, well, and he said, well, the way it's
the way, it's so balanced, it's gonna be hard to
get too.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
They acknowledge that.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But is that a better league getting one and having
a league that every year everybody thinks they've got a shot,
or is it better to have two teams kicking your
ass every year and those two teams the thing so
every year for your league but it's never ever you,
and it's never ever gonna be you.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I think it's much more interesting to have the league
the way it is now. I agree, you start every
year basically right now. Now, maybe Texas Tech turns themselves
into a powerhouse because they spend, but who knows if
they're gonna spend.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Year after year after year. We don't know that.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
But right now there's a bunch of programs that are
serious about football. None looks like they're gonna be a disaster.
And player procurement, as I said, is somewhat of a
crap shoot from year to year. And I think every
year you can start out the year thinking that.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You have a chance in the league and so explain
to me at least on this or tell me, no,
this is flat wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
We have a window here. I think that's old reaction
because what I think, how is the window closed?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
What what is the part that's closing because Texas Tech
is going to become Texas Okay, I'll listen to that,
we'll see if it how.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I think it's because Kansas has generally been a bad
football program. That's historically is it in the water, it's
been a bad No, it's not in the water, But
the mindset of the fans is going to be once
we get something going good.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I know, but I'm asking asking me about that now,
I'm asking you, do you agree with that that there's
a window?
Speaker 5 (30:27):
No? I think that this league is super competitive and
Kansas should be thought of right there with just every
these programs are very similar.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Right now, I do get the what is it the
Stockholm syndrome? You know, you start to you know, you
start to love your captor or appreciate your captor, like
your catra whatever it is, because like that's all you know,
right Like, I get it. But there is no excuse
for how bad Kansas football was for as long as
it was bad, right none. Now, there are many factors
(30:57):
that contributed to it, but you have unraveled them and
the concept you want you know, what happened last time
you fired the coach that was winning? Like you can't
can't you even see that you're tracking.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Down the same path of what set you back?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Like right now, if Travis Goff was one getting free
exercise equipment, uh through the university, and then two you
don't remember that with lou Perkinson two was you know,
clearly making it clear to everybody around that he didn't
like the coach, he wasn't his coach, and he was
going to let him go.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
And we know he is his coach.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Then you should fire Travis Goff because the football program
is winning at a level that this program doesn't normally
win at. Now. The good news is Travis Goff is
not doing that, and Traviscoff hired this guy. But like,
you're not going to just as the Royals, Like I
think the Royals fans hopefully this year. You know, you
talk about validating it the Chiefs having a game and
(31:57):
validating it. The Royals validated last year. Irew with this season, right,
and so I think I'm hopeful.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
But I will tell you if they start ten and
sixteen next year.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
J J.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Picole got to go if you want just more two points.
But my point is this, that's not the case.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like JJ Piccolan knows what he's doing, and I'm here
to tell you they've had enough good seasons that Lance
Lightpel knows what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
He does.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I agree, and I think that, but I think that
there's the fear. The fear is there that hey, we've
got the stadium, we ask this people for money for
the next second part of the renovation is next year
we start having losing seasons and those people are just
gonna say, nap, I'm spending my money on.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
The basketball team.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I think that's the fear, because you know there are
finite resources. I don't think it's a program that has
a whole slew of people with the kind of deep
pockets that they generally cope back to the same people
to get the money from.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
And that's probably part of the fear too.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So how many wins does Lance lifele have to have
this year to allay the fear?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
To me?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Six six and you're like, Okay, that's he's good, right,
he's good.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Well, I don't think even if he won three, I'm
not firing the guy. But I just think that any year,
especially in a league that's his balance as the Big
twelve Bowl Game is, should be like three out of
four years at least, or it's not good any program,
(33:30):
but it's for Kansas included.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
The bar's too low.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
You get you generally get at least one, generally two
sometimes three free wins, So.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I think it's harder in a league and the SEC
schools will figure this out, right, Yeah, it's harder in
a league when you play nine conference games, because everyone's like, well,
you know, half those teams are.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Gonna win, I know, and half are going to lose,
and all that.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
That whole half that's going to lose that ninth game,
they would have played some pisshant rummy and it would
have been a win. And they're all going to have
another loss and it's going to be different.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
And also there are mandates for who you can play
in the non conference. Now, oh, they'll drop that real quick.
You watch, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I mean, they they they're these conferences. These athletic directors
now are so money conscious that unless they feel like,
no matter who they trot out on the field, they're
not going to lose attendance that day, and in many
cases that's true, they're not. Then maybe they don't want
to do that, or maybe they don't want twenty thousand
(34:29):
people not showing up even though they've got tickets to
the game and to drink beer and spend one hundred
dollars on concessions that day. Yeah, you know, because it's Troy.
I don't know, but I don't The sky's not falling.
But I just think if you have a really terrible
defense and they look like they have a terrible defense,
it can submarine your season, even if you're getting good
(34:51):
offensive play, because.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
You're just helpless.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I mean, so far, the other teams have been able
to run the football, throw the football to whatever they've wanted.
You know, he just looks like stopping them on four
downs looks difficult right now, and that's a tough hill
to climb.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
There's no they've got defense problems, no doubt. But I mean,
his side of the ball is working well.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
He doesn't really have a side.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
Of the ball.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
He's an offense. He played quarterback, that's I know. But
he even he's even says himself that he's not.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
He's definitely the CEO of it. But that's the side
of the ball he comes from. It's a lot more
alarming when your side of the ball sucks. And I
think all you gotta do is look at Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
And they can win. Animals fix the defense. He couldn't score.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Now he's got people in place and got a quarterback
and they're scoring and they look pretty good.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
You can hire defensive coordinator and solve it.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Well, their offense is good enough to win a couple
of games, you know, forty five thirty seven, So maybe
that will maybe that will save the season.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
But I'm just saying when a coach has a side
of the ball, they all do. None of them are
are I.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Don't know, it'sland Switzerland.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I was going to say, yeah, but I don't know what.
I was trying to come up with something.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Cute for it.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
But it's when they're when their side of the ball
sucks like alarm bells, right right, alarm bells. But if
the other side is as good as this one is,
you'd still even probably not notice it as much. But
like there, he needs to find the right guy on
defense and or and let me offer you this, there
(36:24):
is donor fatigue, and they are behind on what they're
paying their roster because they're putting so much into the stadium.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
I think that's part of what we're hearing from that
fan there, that they're that he's concerned about donor fatigue.
And you cannot have donor fatigue in this college foot
college sports landscape.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, I agree, But I think I think once that's
paid for, they're not gonna have to.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Build a stadium again in a few years.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Will they have to build make the weight room bigger. Well,
they have to add some more hot tubs. It appears
so that that's where it's going. Although they have to
pay players more, yes they will, but you won't have
to build another stadium.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
But on the back end of that, if they're coming
off three nine Bowl seasons, are these people going to
want to give them money?
Speaker 4 (37:06):
No? Right, No, for sure, for sure, that's it. That's
the concern.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
But I do think the ground that he has what
the job was hard when he got there. It was
ridiculous getting the late start, but it was a hard
job when he got there and going through all this.
It's wonderful that it's all coming. But you know, playing
last year at somebody else, at other people's stadiums that
can't We'll give you fifty grand.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
We'll give you fifty grand. Hey, where are you playing.
We're playing right here. It's going to be fun. Where
are you playing? Well, we've got to drive to Kansas
City and we got to do this and that. Oh okay,
next year they're going to play it reduced capacity.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah, So I mean it is, and I think that's
something that should be championed with ELI Drink Witz with
what's going on with him winning, and they've been in
a kind of a perpetual stadium remodeled seemingly like three
on three off, three on three off for like a
decade now, and he's winning. So I mean, I think,
but I think fans need to recognize it. Certainly, administration
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Speaker 4 (39:55):
Cats are all fixed though, right, we don't have anything
to worry about there.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Right, they looked fixed, I'll say that. But this is
a tough week for them. They're going against a Baylor
team that also has big defensive problems but can really
really throw the foot.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
They really just score. They're just good across the board offensively.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
So this is another game in the Big Twelve where
it's important for both teams. Each team would get a
second league loss with a loss, but same thing, same
thing as the Chiefs. This is kind of let's validate
a good performance. They had been looking shaky and last
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week they had most of the bases covered, and now
are they going to get to be able to handle
a track meet, which it almost is pretty certain to be.
The quarterback for Baylor is thrown for basically four hundred
yards three out of the five games, three ninety three
and then two four hundreds, and he's moved enough the
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charts as far as what people think in a weak
quarterback class of somebody who might be a first round
draft pick. The defense is the coach's side of the ball,
so you would think that maybe they'll make some improvements there.
They've had real trouble Baylor has, so I think it's
an intriguing game. Road games in the Big Twelve for
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teams that aren't rolling. I'm probably generally going to lean
to the home team, and I am in this case,
so that would indicate that, no, it's not all fixed
if they're going to go lose. How can I say
it's fixed if I'm saying they're going to go lose.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Dylan Edwards makes a big difference.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
He does, but he's a physical time time bomb waiting
to explode at any time because he's really small. But
he's a dynamic player when he plays. And is Avery
Johnson's mindset of being aggressive running the football a one
game thing or is he going to really get married
(42:02):
to it again? Is he really happy with where he
is at case State or does he want to go
somewhere else. There's a lot of questions there, and their
defense looked better for one game.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So if Avery Johnson went somewhere, is it definitely going
to be a success.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
No, he hasn't definitely been a success at k State. Yeah,
but you know he's probably if he were to go.
I'm not saying he's going to go and maybe.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Well there may very well be a team that'll give
him more money than what Case State has, but I
think he would be wise to stick with familiar territory,
put in the work you know what you did. He
was at the Manning passing camp. And I'm not saying
he doesn't work, but I mean, just keep working. I
don't know that running off to another place. If he
went to another place, it better be to a place
that's got an offensive guru.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I think the problem for people like Avery Johnson when
they're looking at what they want to do, is how
many success stories there have been of quarterbacks who all
of a sudden.
Speaker 7 (43:02):
Here they are.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Well, Joe's in his fourth stop here at you know,
we started at Sacramento State and now he's in he's
having a breakout.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Season here at Baylor.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
I mean it's there's there's a lot of them, and
so a lot of times people are gonna think the
grass is greener somewhere else, maybe think things there's too
much familiarity.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Maybe he's happy as can be, but I mean I've
heard some things that maybe he's not so. Uh So,
this is an important game from that aspect too. They
win games, here's.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
A lot of problems.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
We mentioned they win eight games this year. He's probably
I would say he's probably staying.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
We mentioned the quarterback rankings, which in which Brennan Soursby
is sixth. The top six quarterbacks in that ranking are
all transfers, the USC, Vanderbilt, Ole, Miss, Indiana, Oregon, and Sincy.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
So I mean that's right, I mean it's almost it's almost.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
It's almost be the USC.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I'd be like, you can't deny the going and playing
for Lincoln Riley, right, Like, if that would happen, that
would be I can't say that's a bad movie, Howard,
because that guy, that's all he does is turn out
pro quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
But really, when you watch a college football game, if
they have a quarterback who's just been with their program,
that's unusual.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yes, it's not the it's not the other way around.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
Jalen Daniels is not the standard. Fair, No, he is
very unusual. He stayed with him, he stayed with him
through injury, and he's played great. He still makes the occasional,
you know, bonehead play and he tries a little too
hard sometimes and that cost him fumble last time, and
then in the game down near the goal line, which
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is a huge play. Kansas also has a problem and
whether this is just happenstance. A few times in a row,
they've lost a lot of close games the last two years,
a lot of games.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
In most score games.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Right, So is that an intrinsic problem that doesn't strike
me as a reality, you know, because they have a
quarterback and can drive you down the field and he
did last week.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
And scored a touchdown with what.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
Right back?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Right?
Speaker 7 (45:06):
So last week?
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Uh so the.
Speaker 7 (45:11):
Rated tenth on that line.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
The Cats could play better and lose, say that.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Which would mean sort of, you know, maybe they're problem that,
maybe they're just a good team that lost to another
team that's good. There's, like I said, a lot of
balance in this league, and games are difficult to win
on the road. That's not a difficult place to play
atmosphere wise at Baylor, but it's going to be about
a million degrees and you would think that Baylor's players
(45:36):
have a little bit of an advantage that they practice
in it all the time. We've got that we've got
practicing in the dry, dry fall heat that we've had
that you pointed out, it's.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Dry down there too. It's it's try and wake up. No,
it's near the ocean. It's maybe not so Waco. Well,
it's near the ocean, relatively near the ocean.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
Closer to the Ocean. From Waco to the oce, well,
Waco is not near anywhere, so.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
It's not that far. It's like an hour southwest of Dallas. Right,
it's mostly sour than that.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
I've driven it hour by what plane?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I think they I was thinking, if you're on the
outskirts of town, I know, maybe I'm thinking of Austin.
I know Austin's not that close either, but I was
thinking of I don't know what it was because we
were looking at looking at some schools and whatnot and
good school.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Well, we weren't looking at Baylor. Make that clear.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
Austin is Sarah. Waco was ninety five miles driving from Dallas.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Oh, that's an hour for you. That's it is an
break down.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
Thirty five.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
There you go. So I'm right, I'm right, good job.
I know.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
I'm sure it's more than ninety I'm sure it's more
than ninety five miles.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
In Houston, I was thinking more of you.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
No, don't put in Houston, putting Galveston. Houston is not
the ocean. Putting in like Galveston or.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Something in Houston. Houston is actually fairly close. Oh, it's
very close to Galveston, which is on the water. It's
not close to the two hundred and forty miles. Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Oh, it's right next door, right by the practically beachfront property.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
It's a two and a half hour drive for you.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
If you if you live in a ten story condo,
you can see the water, is what Danny says.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
No beachfront property and wait, go it's no way quiet
little bird. So anyway, so I another great college football
weekend though yep, and Missouri won't lose, and.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
It starts with college Game Day it.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Does at nine o'clock, a couple of great guests in
Kansas in cool evening game Kansas coverage at five.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
Whoo, Danny, you're the man. We appreciate it. Whoo.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
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