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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
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Speaker 5 (02:29):
I mean, it's more than the Lowden's cough drops, which
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Speaker 3 (02:32):
But like Menthylyptus tries to say that something, but I
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stuff that makes it work is the stuff that makes
it not pleasant, right for the most part anyway, So
I'm I'm just fine. So Savannah, Georgia and Hilton Head,
South Carolina over the Christmas holidays and it was wonderful.

(02:53):
And you know, there are a lot of things I
didn't have to pay attention to necessarily that much like
the Chiefs, but I did anyway, and had some what
fifty to fifty exciting college football so far. I think
the amazing thing is how defensive minded the success has

(03:14):
been of I mean, five of the eight games the
losing team has scored fourteen points or less. Three teams
have scored zero, and so defense rearing its head in
the playoffs and we've got three real exciting games. So
I guess that's not a bad return.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Do you feel that it's an issue right now? With
the college football playoff bracket that you know, in the
first round you got teams like Tulane and James Madison
that make it in, but they get annihilated in their
first game. You know, there were some people that complain
that you have too many teams in there, that if
you have one of those smaller teams though might be
eleven and one might be twelve to oh, they go

(03:52):
on the road to an Oregon or an Ole, miss
they're going to get stomped. And that's always going to
be the case unless you put it on neutral site field.
Are you in the side of I wanted to be
twelve teams because I believe some of those teams that
otherwise would never get a shot at a national championship
at least get an opportunity to go on a Cinderella
type run.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
In this bracket. Well, it's really set up to only
have one team in there, So it's the faull to
the other teams that they didn't play well enough to
be better ranking wise than the second team. I mean,
you're only by rule, only one's supposed to get in,
and I'm fine with one. If two gets in, that's
on you because you didn't play any better. And right
now it does seem that that creates the opportunity for

(04:33):
a really easy game. But that's okay too. Because the
other team earned it, and one of these times it'll
probably get a team that rises up and creates a
good Cinderella story. So I don't really have a big
issue with it if you're the fourteenth best team, if
you're Vanderbilt. I mean, Vanderbilt went on and lost their
bowl game, So I don't think it's I like the twelve.

(04:54):
I don't think I want to go to sixteen, but
I think they will. But twelve's fine with me.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Last year, I noted that, you know, I thought might
be one of the waves of the future that the
teams who won the first round went on the road
and all won. Not on the road, they were they
played a higher, a better seated team in that quarterfinal,
and all four of them won. I thought, well, I
think you're gonna see a lot of national champions coming
out of that five to eight range, because they do

(05:21):
get to go in having played a game, they've got
some under their you know, under their saddle. They they
they little maybe not as fresh physically, but they're ready
to go. And then this year, but it's it's it
happened again. Almost the buy teams are now one and seven.
The difference between this year and last year. I thought
part of last year was that four of the teams

(05:44):
that were got buys. Two of them were Arizona State
and Boise State, who you didn't think were going to
really be They weren't the two of the four best teams,
but they got the buys because of their conference championship.
This year feels different. The four teams that got buys
were Heavies, Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia, and Texas Tech. This
wasn't supposed to happen again, but it happened again. Is

(06:06):
there what's the value? Is there something about that setup
to where those teams that play in that first round
and win are always going to be a pretty good
bet in the second round.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I think it's too soon. The games were generally expected
to be close anyway. I think there is some advantage
to playing a game, but I don't see where you
should lose your touch that quickly you get practice. It's
not that long. It's three weeks or so, so I'm

(06:35):
going to wait. I think if it's I mean, I
saw that on the seventh game was the first time
somebody did win, and you know, Pat McAfee's going, well,
I'm never going to pick her, and then he said, well,
I like the team too much, and you know, Georgia
clearly wasn't. I think is as good as Old miss
and on the day, So I think I think two

(06:57):
years is just too short, too small a sample size,
so I'm not to make that much of it. I
think it is a I do think it is. If
would I rather play a game, I guess so if
you win it, if you're gonna win the game first,
So yeah, playing one less games an advantage, So I
don't care.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
And I said that the dynamics were different last year.
Three of the four lower seated ranked team or seated
teams were favorites, and two of them are by double digits,
so that was just kind of an odd mixture. This
was again a different situation, but as you said, pretty
small sample size. Still, what do you think of I've

(07:39):
been hearing a lot of this, and it's because a
lot of Big twelve fans loved to just say, well,
the SEC, the Big ten, blah blah blah blah blah.
How much weight should be put into the performance of
an individual conference in any bowl or playoff season. I
think there's probably more put into it than I think
needs to.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Be the playoffs. It's significant to judge it. I do.
I mean, I think the Big ten can stick their
chest out right now and the Bolls. I think the
Bulls are just such a crapshoot now. I mean, there
was one bowl yesterday where I think was Arizona State
had sixteen starters sit out. They weren't there or you know,

(08:21):
we're gone, we're in the portal for whatever reason, weren't
playing so and the other team was pretty whole.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Then you have a game like iowaen Vanderbilt. Both teams
wanted to be there. Every one of their seniors on
each team was there. You can get a situation where
that's you know, one team's like that and the other
team's not. So that completely throws the significance of that
game out. But the playoff games themselves, I think they're
a pretty good litmus test. I think you can do
a little judging of the of the conferences and over time,

(08:52):
though still you're going to have to go give you
you know, they put up a stat a from twenty
fourteen in the playoffs and the SECT still was the
dominant team in there, and then they've been the best
conference so I think it does play itself out that way.
But other bowl games, I don't think it is any significance.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
What's on. I was hearing a fairly significant voice of
people who were saying Alabama was overrated because of the
fact that Missouri, LSU and Tennessee lost their bowl games,
and I'm like, that doesn't how does that mean anything?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
No, I don't think you can judge anything about bowl
games anymore. No, you can't take any knowledge or make
any grand statements about Alabama's strength of schedule during the
season because of the bowl games were completely different kettle
of fish. They you don't know who's playing.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
And Also, I think I think fans are sometimes there
You're so allotted to the conference of the team you
root for that you look at a game A lot
of fans look at that game, look at a game differently.
Just I said this yesterday on Twitter. I said, how
about we just watched the games and enjoy them and
not every result is a reflection of whether that team

(09:59):
should have been in the PLA playoff or not.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Also, who's invested in a conference anything? The conferences are
all different every year and make no sense based off
of Yeah and they're going to change again. There's going
to be a new Pac ten next year and all
different alignments are going to be there. The AC is
going to be different. It's different year to year. Who

(10:21):
can really just have Big Twelve fever? Yes? Really people do?
I think Southeast Conference? Okay, the bulk of the teams are,
you know, the same ones that have been there for
a long time, and they've been the best for a while,
so I can see some pride and then in Big Ten,
but it's expanded. You know, you're really going to take
that all the credit for Oregon who's been in your

(10:44):
league for two years. You know, that doesn't make any
sense to me.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
It'd be like the SEC taking credit for Texas.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
How much of a stain was it for the Big
Twelve that a team like Texas Tech who had just
dominated everybody they played other than Arizona State, and that
was because Baron Morton was injured in that game and
they still nearly pulled off the come from behind win.
How bad is it for the Big Twelve that in
their showing after getting the buy, they don't even score
and lose by three scorers to a team like Corrigan. Oh,

(11:15):
I think it looked bad. I don't think there's any
way you can dress that up. Texas Tech cream people
almost all year with a you know, at times a
backup quarterback or a damage quarterback, and they were killing
people generally.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
In the league. So yeah, I think you can absolutely
say it was a bad look that your best team,
by far, absolutely the best team in the league this
year just no showed the game. They couldn't do anything,
and I mean nothing. They didn't just not score. I
mean they didn't even move the ball in the first
half at all. So yeah, that's not a good look.

(11:49):
I think we can easily look at the Big Twelve
and say it's not even close to the Big Ten
or the SEC. I think that's fair.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
No, not only did they lose, just anybody too. Lose
to Oregon, who's the third best team in the Big
Ten behind Indiana and Ohio State. I real quickly want
to pivot to Indiana after their bludgeoning of Alabama in
the Rose Bowl. It has been one of the more
dominant seasons that we've ever seen at the college football
level from a team like Indiana and a team that
quite frankly five years ago was the doormat of the

(12:21):
Big ten. What does Kurt Signitty need to do to
become maybe the greatest coach and have the greatest turnaround
of a program of all time.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Well, he's I think he still got a long way
to go because he's just doesn't have longevity on his side.
But if he wins a national championship, he stamps himself
with winning great turnarounds no matter what. So national championship
makes it a big difference. But can you compare him
right now to what Bill Snyder did at Kansas State?
I don't think so, not yet. You know, that program

(12:54):
was every bit the dormat that Indiana is, although Indiana
certainly was in the running for having one of the
terrible programs of college football. And also it is a
different time that what they have done monetarily hasn't been
talked about that much. But a lot of people, and
you know, Mark Cuban sort of thinly veiled talked about
how much money he and he wouldn't say it, but
he said it was a significant amount or some you know,

(13:16):
some obtuse comment like that. So the combination of a
very single minded, excellent football coach obviously is one wherever
he's gone and it is it refreshing that their quarterback
is just a dork.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I mean, he's just a lovable dork. You know, interview
was fantastic, just refreshingly. Defacyue excellent quarterback and might be
the number one pick in the NFL draft, right, just
a ray of sunshine. You know, he doesn't look anything.
He doesn't look or act anything like a quarterback, you know, nothing,
not out of standard casting. It's like like a Hollywood

(13:53):
movie where they you know, Skippy gets to play quarterback
and all of a sudden he finds superpowers and he's great.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
But you know what he does. He talks like a
head coach, like he's I mean I heard him talking
him like that's well right, that kid's smart, and I
mean he seems to have it just makes that that
story even more amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
But he looks, you know, he looks like his mom
cuts his head right exactly. You know that's good.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
He does come from cal so he's got to have
he got to have the smarts at least a little
bit there.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
But how much how much does that what they're doing
put pressure on other Missouri and anybody you can't get
you can't you can't get there because we just it's
just too difficult. Well, Indiana did it. So I think
that removes excuses from about twenty or thirty pounds.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
It removes excuses, excuse from everybody that was a program
that they've sucked forever.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah, for ever. Yeah, they've never been good.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I mean when you're talking about the head Lee Corso
is one of your signature yeah leaders, then you know
that's uh Lee's Lee was old along time ago.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Yeah, if they can find a quarterback that's really good,
there's no reason, well you would think. I can't imagine.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I can't imagine that there's any reason why they can't
find another quarterback.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, I mean because I mean, if.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
That guy looks like he's having a heck of a time,
even though the coach looks very intense, and they've got
the money and now they've got the success, it's a
beautiful place to go to school. Also so very nice.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Campus said that Signetty always looks like he might have
spent twenty years as a contract killer who specialized in explosives.
He just has that does look like that man has
definitely killed someone somewhere in the past. He does he
looks like he could kill you with a look, that's
for sure.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Exactly Does does it make any sense for him? I
know he signed the extension earlier this year, but does
it make any sense for him to, you know, take
a job down the road at an SEC program or
now is it more more of a let's make Indiana
the premier job in college football and I've got no
reason to leave because they're going to pay me the money.

(16:07):
We have the financial backing from donors, and nowhere in
a conference that you know, if you can win it
over Ohio State and continue to do that year in
and year out, who's to say that five years down
the road people look at Indiana the way they do
at Ohio State. I guess it also comes down to
what NFL talent they're they're pumping out as well, because
that matters to a lot of recruits out there. But
does it make sense at any point in time, at

(16:29):
his age to leverage his position into another head coaching
job or is there really a better one right now
in college football?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I can't imagine that he would look elsewhere. They gave
him his chance. He's in the final four of college football.
Like I said, it's.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
He'll be sixty five in June, which is old necessarily,
but it's not usually.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
But it's old to be starting it.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
That's what I'm saying. It's old to be jumping somewhere else,
and it'll be eb sixty eight by the time you've
got around to doing that.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's in. I mean, if he has a season like
Alabama just had, they're going to be happy. They're not
going to be ready to string him up. They're not
gonna have Paul Finebaum calling him soft for the whole
nation to hear. So I would not think he would
look elsewhere. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Like what's see? I felt this way when Brad Stevens
was going to the championship game at Butler and people think, man,
do you think you can come to Missouri? I'm like,
where he can do? What go to the final four,
which he he's already twice gone somewhere that no Missouri
coach ever has. Why would he go from Butler to Missouri?
And why would Kurt Signetty go if he wins a

(17:40):
national title? What's the lord to go somewhere else where
you can do? Don't what you just did?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, I don't have any thought that he would want
to go anywhere else. If you win the national championship,
also you've proved more than you would prove if you
did it at Alabama or whatever. Now maybe he goes
and you know, gets trucked in the next game, and
he's looking around. He's saying, you know what, we haven't
enough but to get here. But maybe we don't have enough.

(18:05):
I can't see it. Yeah, he waited his whole lifetime
to get even this off. I mean, he took a
job at the University of Indiana, which is a coach
killer job, right, so I would think that he also
feels like they've supported him tremendously. Like I said, it's
a place where he can now rattle off nine and

(18:26):
ten win seasons, and I think they'll be happy with that.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
It's amazing that I was looking at his coaching record
twenty eighteen. Seven years ago he was six and five
with Elon and now here he is the head of
what looks like a beastly team that has an incredibly
high ceiling. I can't think he would have imagined that
this quickly he'd be He says, you know, google me,

(18:49):
I win wherever I win, but he thinks he think
it's six and five, and Elon he was thinking I'm
gonna win a national title someday. Remember they all think that.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
But I think that he probably is what he seems
to be a super confident guy who's very very has
a strong belief in the way he coaches football, and
that he just felt like all I needed was to
get a chance at someplace that was higher level than that.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Or well immediately.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
He probably also strikes me as somebody who wasn't somebody
who was a glad hander, right, you know, that's somebody
that was easy, necessarily easy to work with, or was
going to do things, you know, go and do one
hundred cocktail parties with.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Yeah, he doesn't strike me. He's the anti Bill Self.
He's not going to walk in and just win win
the room where Bill Self walks into a room and
everyone goes I like that guy, Signett. He's the complete
polar opposite in some in many regards that way.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I would yes, although in winning he seemed the warmth
of him seemed to come out. He actually smiled a
bit more. They're going to go to that on the
radio like wodcast. Hey, I think we just saw him smile,
so didn't know we had that in him.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
I do want to pivot, you know, not to not
too long from now into some NFL draft talks, so
kind of tied it into college football playoffs, talk a
little bit about the Chiefs, so we do have to
dive into Chiefs and Raiders. We push it off long
enough word an hour and twenty end of the show.
We have not made one mention of the Chiefs and Raiders.
We have talked about draft prospects, which there were two
that played over the weekend. So here's what we're going

(20:17):
to do. It's take a quick break, come back and
get Danny's thoughts on two guys that might be available
for the Chiefs top ten in the draft. You're listening
to the program on Sports Radio eight ten WHB.

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Speaker 5 (22:05):
You, all right, the Nick and Jakes End of the
Hour answer. Travis Kelcey one of three chiefs to have
a thousand career receiving yards against the Raiders, I know
and the other two he's talking to Brad there m

(22:28):
a thousand mm hmm, he has sixteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
There's so few chiefs receivers who had lounge evity.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
There's one that you'd be like, yeah, just but it
can be. It can be a tight end as well
be any position Tony, Tony Gonzalez. By the way, Kelsey
and Gonzales are one two own any among all players
against the Raiders.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
One more.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
As a ring. Tyreek Hill could have got it. Net like, no,
not him.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Let's have a Super Bowl ring though Dang, I was
gonna say, otis Taylor, Otis I was gonna guess maybe
Dwayne bow is alongevitor, but he's fourth.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Okay, he's like.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Eight seventy or maybe he's around nine hundred.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
But there were some lean years without getting the ball
as much.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Trev Tony and otis Twaine bow is anything? Does anything
say more about I have upset those years?

Speaker 5 (23:25):
Oh? Yeah, with those.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
There's probably a few things that would have upset me more.
Charlie at least he produced a few times.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Charlie Rice as Charlie Rice and now Charlie Rice Junior
is Charlie Rice Jr.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
A few which is such a clown. Yeah, and this
is the way the way he capped it off with
the no catch and the explanation that he was going
to break his foot?

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Is that what he's saying in playoff? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Was it that one? There was also the was it
Halloween against the Steelers when Palco started and Paco threw
that was too high at the end and he jumped
and didn't put his hands up in the air and
he got picked off. There was some explanation about that earlier.
It was like I would have gotten heard on the player.
It wasn't even close or something, and how all of
the broadcast was like, how did he not put his
hands up for this ball?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's that is being you were an amazing Chiefs fan
that you remember a ball that Tyler Palco threw that
Dwayne bow didn't have.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Unfortunately, I remember every pass from Tyler Paco, I remember
was awful. It did not go a little highlight package
of him. One night when they were playing the Steelers
at Arrowhead and he knows that's probably the one downs
in three picks. And I remember thinking, you know, Todd
Haley is going to lose his job because he's just
not going to play Kyle Lorton.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
And then he did and they beat the Packers who
were undefeated at the time. The Romeo Cornell did the defense, yeah,
because they held him to foeen or something like that.
But yeah, no, we don't need to reminisce about those
days whatsoever. No, now we do have some Chiefs to
talk about, though. You know, Danny, you were talking about

(25:04):
being on vacation round Christmas time, and you know, still
paying attention to the Chiefs. But we're in a weird
December January part of the year and the new year
where Chiefs football just is not being talked about to
lead off every single show because their season comes to
an end on Sunday and the only thing that can

(25:27):
change is where they're drafting and over the weekend and
watching these college ball playoff games. Watch Ruben Bain out
of Miami. Watch David Bailey for Texas Tech. We've asked
nearly every Chiefs guest so far if you were in
charge of making that pick, because it feels it's either
an edge rusher or it's a running back. Now, there's
really only one running back you can take in that spot,

(25:47):
and that's Jeremiah Love out of Notre Dame. But the
ed rusher position, you can go Rubyen bain you can
go David Bailey. If you want defensive line in general,
you could go Pete Woods if he's there ont A Clemson.
If it were you, who are you selecting with a
top ten or top eleven pick.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Just off recency bias? I guess I'll say Reuben Baines.
I mean, he looks like he can wreck the game
from the interior and maybe move outside. I don't really
to me, it's your job to get right what you
need to draft, which is an edgebrusher. If they draft
a running back, I think they're out of their minds.

(26:27):
I mean they can draft them in the third somebody
in the third round or whatever. Yes, they need running
back help, there's no doubt about that. But let's face it,
Andy Reid is not going to become a run first quarter.
I mean, you know, play caller and play designer, so
what's the point of that. And they haven't been able
to get to the quarterback without blitzing for years, even

(26:50):
with Chris Jones around, So you need more guys. And
I think what has happened this year has not made
the Emperor have no clothes, but I think it's made
Brett Feach's player acquisition look a lot worse. I think
we've seen now quite a bit how Patrick Mahomes and
Steve Pagnolo and Andy Reid have papered over overrated talent.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
And you've seen there was I saw a stat about
the diversity of pressure from defenses and whether you use
a lot of different looks and blitzes or whether you
use the same thing every time, and the Houston Texans
were at the bottom. It's basically as this person said,
just straight gas. The Chiefs were easily the highest, at

(27:37):
like ninety nine percent of their pressures were on various
you know, that was the rating of diversity where it's
just everything. I mean, he really has. It's kind of
amazing the job he's had to do with the talent.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
It's incredible and I think that it's been revealing. Yeah,
the Chiefs have have, but why by what most people
still say is the quarterback you would want the most
in the NFL. I do think that's arguable now. But
still he's in the you know, in the running in
the and if not one, but three or whatever you

(28:17):
want to do. And they're not very good, Yeah, and
their offense isn't.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Very good despite the fact that they've and they invested
a lot of draft capital and some and some free agent.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Capital and resigning capital.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yes, in resigning capital. I do think it's interesting. You
mentioned Andy Reid's proclivity to want to pass the ball,
and I do think they need to invest more in
the running back position than they have the last five years.
Almost no money in free agency and two seventh round
picks in the last five drafts. But it would be interesting.
I think the idea of him making making some changes

(28:53):
to his offensive philosophy is open for the first time
since he's been there. Because of the way this season went.
This would be the year that you, I think, Okay,
you're not frozen by your success. You're going to have
to make some changes and how much will we be
able to get an idea about that based on how
they value that running back position. I think if they
either spend money on a big name guy or if

(29:16):
they do take Jeremiah Love with the ninth pick overall,
I think that will certainly be an indication that he's
willing to change the situation, his philosophy, and his approach offensively,
because I don't think you make that movie. As you
point out, you don't make that move if you're going
to just run RPOs and then pass eighty five percent
of the time.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
I just can't even imagine that he's going to change
his stripes after all these years, and I don't really
think he should. You know, it's still as much as
the NFL the last couple of years has valued more
running the football and trying to create different boxes and
things like that. And Stam McDowell did an unbelievable column
which I keep keeping in my queue here on Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
I think it was Tuesday he did it.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
We just had some amazing stats about, you know, how
the Chiefs have to change and how the way they
operate has created much more challenging scenarios for their quarterback
to throw because they're constantly playing against defenses. That are
designed to stop the pass because they never run the
football and when they do it's not explosive. And it's

(30:17):
a great it's a great column. Every Chiefs fan should
read it. I think it was two let me just
put the date. It was the thirty first, so look
it up and there's just great stuff in it. If
you're a Chiefs fan, you should just absolutely see it
because you know it's got stuff like Daniel Jones and
Gardner Minshew. Colts top thirty one points ten times in

(30:38):
the last two years. The Chiefs twice have gone over
thirty one points. The Colts have scored thirty one ten times. Yeah,
so you know they do have to do some different things.
But also I think it is revealed that Chiefs fans,
Chiefs themselves have wildly overrated their wide receiver. Yes, they're

(31:01):
not nearly as good as Remember what the narrative was
when these they're going to be an unstoppable force when
all those guys are healthy and Rushie Rice and Hollywood
Brown and oh boy, what that's going to be. They're
going to be cooking with gas. Well no, and you
mentioned it the other day when I was listening that
whenever you watch the shot from behind Patrick Mahomes on

(31:23):
these plays where he ended up having to eat the
football or he left the pocket or whatever. It's like covered, covered, covered.
It doesn't seem to be any creativity in their route
running and they.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Can't meat man pressure and then they don't they don't
know how to run. They don't have the right guys
to beat zone.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Well, and to your point about Andy Reid having to
make some adjustments or whatever, you know, his passing game
is based on a lot of option routes for his
wide receivers and that's why it's considered so complicated, et cetera. Well,
these guys don't seem to have much of a feel
for it because they're whatever option they're picking is the
wrong one. And they seem to give up a lot too.
They run out there and then they're like, you know,

(32:01):
they make their first move and they're covered, and they're like,
well they.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Just stand there.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Plays over.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Yeah. And also it isn't just just that they don't
maybe run them as well. It's just I think defenses
have slowly gotten used to when they line up, they go, Okay,
we've seen this before, this is going to be this
And even though the even the misdirection and the types
of motion and movement things they do don't fool anybody.
It seems like more and more you see defenders break
on passes open receivers more than I remember seeing, and

(32:29):
I think that's they're anticipating what's going on. Well, they
can just sit there and read too. They don't even
have to worry about their you know, they don't care
that the Chiefs are not going to run the football
if there's an RPO, and if they do, it's not
going to go fifty yards. That's gonna throw yeah, yeah.
And if they and if they do run it, it's
not gonna it's not gonna hurt them. There's no reason
to really play the run because the worst is going

(32:50):
to happen. They get ten, ten, twelve yards, you're not
going to break a long one. That's the part where
I think they do need to at least value the
running back position a little bit more. Maybe not the
ninth overall pick, but they got a new more than
just Isaiah Pacheco and Richard Smith. They got at least
something because that helps the passing game as well.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Isaiah Pichecko is the Dwayne Bow of this generation. I
mean he's not a knucklehead, he's tryatard and everything, but
he is the most overvalued nothing player. I just I
think I think that you know his I think I
put this out on Twitter. If I didn't, I should have.
I said, I am so tired of his wily coyote

(33:31):
running style. I mean, just runs around like a nut
and then you know, pops up and gives you the
first down thing. It's any anybody who loves that act,
I don't know, man, I almost like cringe when I
see it. To Checko Jersey or just so tiring at
least Kareem Hunt, you know what he is. He's trying.

(33:53):
He can get some short yardage, but Checko's just a
bundle of nothing.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
And it seems like his vision has gotten worse. Yeah,
but routine ran.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Hard, you know, I mean hard to have to back,
but you know, so so it was. It's a little
refreshing at first to see some guy who's you know,
really giving it as all and hits the whole hard.
But then when you realize eventually that he doesn't. He
just runs straight ahead and if there's a hole there.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yeah, he pushes. He doesn't make anybody miss well.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
He doesn't even know where he's going. He just runs
and if there happens to be a hole he might
make so.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Hard considering and this is a high, you can't really
compare him to someone like Jean Robinson. But the big
run the other night guy had him in the backfield
and he went. He planted a foot, made one move,
hit the hole and was gone. I don't remember the
last time the Chiefs had a running back, even to
the first part of that. And that's part of the

(34:48):
reason why I think they don't have They don't have
any long runs. They don't just don't have the athleticism.
But I mean, I do think they need to do.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
We need to say anything more than Clyde Edwards. Hilaire
was on the team this year.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yes, no, well, I mean everyone who was on the team,
but even Cream Hunt coming back, everyone who was on
the team.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Not just on the team. He got a couple of carries. Yeah,
that's I mean they've decided that he was after giving
Elijah Mitchell two and a half million at least yeah
three their third bet the third or fourth best. Yeah nuts.
So yes, they have to improve that, but not at
the expense of They need an edge pressure bad.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
If if Bain is there and they don't take him,
they're going to brew that for the next decade, particularly
if someone else right behind him. The Bengals might be
to picking right behind him.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Are you surprised, Danny that in these final couple of weeks,
when they've been eliminated from postseason contention, it's really just
a matter of where they're picking at this point. They
haven't just given all the young players that have been,
you know, playing behind the veterans all seas long, given
them the reps and if they don't play on Sunday.
Do you feel that's a huge missed opportunity by any
reading this coaching staff.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Well, I think it is. But also I think this
point has been made these these coaches who we trust,
they've won, you know, gone to the Super Bowl numerous
times and won three of them. They've seen these guys
like Bassa and you know, in practice and they've just
said no, no, no, we're four snaps for you. So

(36:18):
it's another thought of you know, not like they were
highly drafted, but they were drafted players that they weren't
good selections, I guess because they're they're not even worthy
of giving a flyer now, I mean, you've got no reason.
I mean the worst indictment was that was the Titans game,
because they really tried to win and they put a
bunch of veterans out there and it's embarrassing. So yeah,

(36:40):
it's a missed opportunity because what what do you have
to lose? But also the coaches clearly have watched them
all year and decided that they're not doing this. They're
not doing that. I'm just not gonna I can see
a coach saying, I'm not just not going to hand
this guy a bunch of snaps just because we can.
He hasn't earned them. I mean that that would be
I'll listen to that for sure from a coach. I

(37:03):
see this guy in practice, he doesn't know what he's doing,
or he's just not good enough, And why should I
just say, here you go. You get to play National
Football League plays ahead of true tranquil or whatever, who's
who does what he's supposed to do and is a
true pro. So I get that, But if.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
They don't play, even if however much you want to
put on the player, if that's the case, it still
has to go on somebody else, right, it's either the
evaluation staff of getting him there at the coaching staff
or not developing him or yeah something. It's it's it's
never just going to be the guy. Well, it can
be just a guy too. The guy could be just
a knucklehead or he doesn't care or what. Then then

(37:41):
why is he on the team? I mean, it's there's
still part of it always goes back to but you know, somebody,
you know, you probably need at least a year or
so to prove for the guy, to prove.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
That he doesn't know what he's doing. Uh, And apparently
you know now that today they run two of those
guys up on a press conference, so they're listening. They
clearly are. They listen more than they ever want because
they know what the narrative is out there. Oh, you're
supposed to play him, and you've got four snaps and

(38:12):
now you're making him available to the media. And he
sounded good in in front of a microphone. That's good.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
I guess he was fine.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
But and he played on special teams some so I
guess there's you know, I obviously have some value there.
But yeah I would if it was me. I'm gonna okay, whatever,
Maybe he's a gamer. We've always heard that that there
are some guys who are much better in games than
they are in practice. I find it hard to believe
that a guy down on the rung isn't really giving
it his all and they just when the lights get bright,

(38:44):
he's all of a sudden going to be way better.
But I would still play them, yes, but I understand
what coaches would think if they didn't want to just
throw him out there and think they are getting undeserved.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Snaps before we move off the Chiefs. I just want
to put that's out there, just he Knowle reporting that
Tom for Tom, Tom Pelsero and Itis is Tom and Ian.
I'm like Tom. Pelisara and Ian Rapport are reporting that
Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Naggy is expected to interview with
the Titans next week. Of course, Titans GM Mike Borganzi

(39:16):
was the former assistant GM here.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Mike Organzi has got a big set of those If
after what the Chiefs did against the Titans, he runs
that guy out as your head coach, you got to
have some stones to do that when your fan base
watched them just stink the field up under Matt Nagy
right in front of their faces.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Were the first. The first three responses to that post
art does he need any help packing? Hopefully all goes well?
And good God, what a horrible higher that would be.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Well, I understand the comments, but you know, let's let's
face facts. The real offensive coordinator of the Chiefs is
Andy Reid, not Matt Naggy. So you know, don't don't
just dump all over Matt and Aggy and and I'm
not I'm not not you. Yeah, I mean there's two
people in general. I mean, yeah, it's a big narrative
out there. Oh, I'll drive him to Tennessee or whatever.

(40:09):
He's not it's not like he's responsible for you know,
he's in. He's part of the mix.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
But and let's forget, not forget the last time he
was a head coach, he got to the postseason with
Mitch Trubisky. I mean, he's not a.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
No, I'm not even saying he would necessarily be a
bad coach. But what I'm saying is Purgunzi would be
a very gutsy to do that.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
You know, that guy who we can thoroughly shut down.
Although it was with a different quarterback, but it's still
like here, he is that will not be a popular
hire if that is made into Tennessee. No impossible to
win that press conference. So though Matt Naggy is very
good at the mic, he sounds like a head coach
whenever he talks, both the Chiefs coordinators do. But he
could be as good as you could possibly be, and

(40:50):
the Tennessee fans are gonna go seriously.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah, well we'll see if if Matt Naggy makes it
that far. In this interview processed with the Tennessee Tins
and over some Chews fans, you're wanting that OC roll
to open back up. As Danny says, I mean, how
much of that is really the oc how much of
is really Andy Reid being the end all be all
when it comes to sending in plays for whoever is
taking snaps with the Kansas City Chiefs. Let's say a
quick break, come back and wrap up Danny Unleashed on

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Speaker 4 (42:56):
Real quickly before we let you go, Danny, and we
really do appreciate your time as always. The news coming
out of Lawrence this morning that Andy Kotelnecki, former OC
for the team back in twenty twenty one, twenty two
and twenty three, got that offense to a very high
ranking nationally for a number of years. He comes back

(43:16):
to Lawrence and takes on the role of associate head coach.
Kind of leads you to believe that he's going to
take over the majority of play calling responsibilities. I'm not
sure why he would come back if he didn't have
that role as well. Do you see this being an
excellent higher for KU or do you feel like you
know bringing him back it may work, but also go
the other way of you just don't have the same

(43:37):
playmakers that you once did back in twenty two and
twenty three.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
I think it's nothing but great. I think there might
be higher expectations than maybe will be realized, but I
don't think the playmakers were really as high a level
as people really thought they were. They ran the ball
no matter who was back there, no matter who was hurt.
They were creative in the running game. I think it's great.
I think and we know that Lance light Bold really

(44:03):
isn't an offensive play play caller or a defensive play caller.
He's a CEO type of head. Coaches have said it himself,
and so Andy Kolnikki, I think, will be completely in
control of the offense, and I expect the kind of
creativity in the running game, especially that we saw that
was that was the key mark. That was the keynote
of that those offensive teams, the fact that game in

(44:25):
game out, whatever running backs they had back there, guys
could be hurt whatever. Uh, the running game was creative, confusing,
and so I think it's great now. You know, I
think that he also will be seen as some kind
somewhat of a savior because their offense didn't operate nearly
as well as it did when he was there. But

(44:45):
I think it's it's nothing but good that he came back,
and they're just fortunate enough that, you know, Penn State
get tired of having a guy win ten or eleven
games every year, and and so that staff got blown up.
But I think it's great. I think it's it's great.
And you know, two bits of good news in one
day for local teams that saved Johnson's going to come
back to k State two. So I think that's great.

(45:08):
He's been certainly a meteoric player. You know, sometimes looks
he's never really really reached the heights that I think, Yeah,
he's sometimes flashed, but I think one more go round
is certainly worth it with him for sure.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
What should I guess the expectations be for both of
these teams going in the next year where Colin Klein
takes over for Chris Cleman, You do bring your quarterback back,
which I feel for a lot of incoming head coaches
you'd rather not have to worry about finding a new quarterback.
In the Portal Kansas, they still have Lance Lpold there,
but bringing Cotal Necky back is obviously a very big move.

(45:45):
They're going to have to replace, you know, Jalen Daniels,
whether that be Cole Ballad or Isaiah Marshall or the portal.
You know, should this be a situation where Colin Klein.
Based on their schedule, you got to go out there
and win eight to nine games in year one? Should
it be higher than that? And for Kansas is it
as simple as get back to a bowl game? Because
going back to back years of five and seven just
isn't going to cut it.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
I think the bowl game is a must for Kansas then,
because then all the goodwill that you've built with the
renaissance that lence Llypold has bought brought is in jeopardy
because I think people are going to start to question
whether he actually, you know, okay, made an initial surge,

(46:27):
but what has happened since then? I think that would
be the wrong thing, and I think that they should
stick with him. But I think it would behoove just
for the total feeling of everything the stadium's getting closer
to full completion, that they get to a bowl game
For Kansas State, I think that their fans are going
to be all in on Colin Kleine. I think Colin

(46:48):
Klein's immediate impact will be that Avery Johnson will run
the football more YEP. And I think he has the
kind of personality Colin cline to impart on somebody, maybe
the kind of toughness that he had when he as
a player, and not to worry about other things besides
playing football for Kansas State University right now and winning
football games. So I think the expectations, however, will be

(47:11):
high for Colin Klin, but I think year one they'll
probably he'll probably have kind of a nice leash and
a bowl game would be considered just fine.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
I think a very interesting matchup we'll see later on
in that year is Jordan Peterson, who used to be
on KU staff, now DC for the kayan Say Wildcats.
He'll be going up against Andy Kotlenecki, who was also
on that staff, and I'm to imagine some of those
practices were great back in the day of those two
great minds going head to head. Well, Danny, thanks so
much for your time. As always, hope it was a

(47:41):
great new year for you and you can't wait to
talk to you next time. Sounds great.

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