January 9, 2026 • 43 mins
Back with the regular crew and diving into the Royals stadium situation after the Chiefs move to Kansas, Chiefs self-assessments as they watch the playoffs, a little college hoops, trivia fun, and more. Join in the fun!
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Speaker 4 (02:48):
Just tremendous.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, good holidays, holiday, Happy New Years. You get drunk
as it is count Somebody told me you were throwing up.
They would roll you overseat and drowned.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Here.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I'm as sick as a dog in New Year's Eve,
so I did absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Sick of watching you like a fool yourself. Is that
what you're saying, lampshade on your head.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I went through a phase where I was a fool
on New Year's Eve fairly often, but not anymore. That
was a long time ago, A long time ago.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'd go down that road. I don't think we'd get
to anything else if I went down that road.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Now we've hung on some recent New Year's Eve, don't
entirely foolish. Yeah, but that was still a while.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, I was just cutting a rug. Uh cutting a rug,
cutting the rug. Yes, let's move on stripping the light. Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh yeah, okay, okay, uh Andy called last hour or no,
it wasn't Andy. It was Brad who called at the
end of the hour, who wanted to talk about where
the Royal Stadium is going to go. Recent reports. I
know there are reports out there that Kansas I think
is I can't remember how it was said something I
(03:55):
think was it. I don't remember exactly how it was said.
I what do you think about where the Royals sit?
The people in the state of Kansas have made it
clear that they feel like the Royals let up deadline lapse, right,
and that was December thirty. First. We know that the
actual writing of the Star Bonds meant that there when
if you extended it, you extended it by a year.
(04:16):
So theoretically and technically that's out there. But it seems
to me that the good faith intentions were we will
extend it. But we're not extending this for you to
just play around, you know, play with your food for
another six months before you get serious. We're extending it.
We expect it to be done soon by the end
of the year at the latest, the Chiefs met that deadline.
The Royals didn't. What do you make of that situation
(04:38):
right now?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I have gone through so many metamorphoses on these two stadiums,
and now one is done, thankfully. And I always thought that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Thankfully as in your you're tired of Arrowhead or just done. Thankfully,
we're done with the talking.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
About don't have to talk about it, least we know
where it is. I I have always kind of stuck
to the thought that the Chiefs were going to end
up staying at Arrowhead in some way, shape or form,
the chief and the Royals were going downtown. I think
we've got all the evidence in the world we need
now that the Royals really want to go downtown. They're
just waiting around for speaking of playing with your food,
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Missouri and or slash Jackson County to stop playing with
their food and come up with something that the Royals like. Now,
the Royals may not end up getting what they like,
but I think that has made it pretty obvious that
John Sherman and his ownership group would like to be downtown,
but they haven't seen the plan that makes them happy yet,
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or they've seen it, and whatever is included in the
site or the idea or whatever is not to their satisfaction.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I will say this, the Royals made their intention of
getting a new stadium known that they wanted out of
their current position long before the Chiefs did, right, And
the Chiefs have then arrived at that as a possibilit
and then been able to construct a deal that got
them what it would take to get them out of
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their old home. They also seemed content to stay to
some degree, I know. So we will say like, well,
like here's how I would describe it. The first plan,
they're tied at the hip, like, this is what's different.
This is what people I think failed. The factor in
one thing is the last one. Well, the chiefs plan
wasn't very good. They didn't put together a good plan,
So how could we have possibly done it? Well, they
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can only put together a plan that had them tied
to getting the exact same amount of money that the
Royals did. The last vote people forget had the Royals
and Chiefs tied at the hip where it was dollar
for dollar. So any plan that did g well, we
didn't get a vote on a dome. Well, the Royals
were going to ask for a four and a half
million dollar project, So it was impossible for the Chiefs
to get the money they needed out of Jackson County
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to build a dome where it was. So by having
the old structure of how these two teams, which was
brilliant in its moment, having that be what you put
to keep them handcuffed the Chiefs in what they could do,
so you really left it to where all they could
do is renovate. So let's be clear, now, should that
lease have been busted up? Should they have done more?
(07:12):
Should the Chiefs have announced we need to be separated.
I don't know. Maybe, yes, no, I don't care. At
the end of the day, it's if you're gonna woo
a big fancy business, you gotta woo a big fancy business,
and sometimes you gotta re recruit, just like in college football. Hey,
the nil deal, I way out played it. It's gonna
cost you more to keep me. Now, well, you want
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to keep the kid, you got to pay them more.
Like That's where it was. And so that deal did
not pass, right, they had an opportunity to keep them
there if you pass that. It didn't pass. And I
don't blame people for not passing it. But I'm also
not going to excuse them either.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
No, And what the chiefs in the end saw is that, hey,
this is sitting here. This, by many accounts that I've read,
is the greatest publicly funded offer that any sports team
has ever gotten, period.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So which is which is frankly what I think it
would take it, which is frankly what I think it
was going to take to get the Hunt family to
agree to a leader.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
They were not. I mean, Kansas read the tea leaves
and said they really like it there. They don't want
to leave there. They feel a loyalty to there. So
if we're going to do it, we have to win,
and win big. We have to win by wide margins,
and they did so. When you and if you don't
know what's going on across the state line, then you're
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not doing your job. And when they start firing, you
have to match them. And if you don't match them,
you have no one to blame it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yourself, right, And I'm not even sure they had to
match them now they don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I mean, you have to up your game. Yeah, yeah,
they did not have to match. No, when they didn't
come close.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
No, they didn't even come close. And finally, also it
was a long process. And finally, to their credit, I
would say, the chiefs were sick of doing it and said,
let's let's make sure we get this and then by
the time our lease is out, we have plenty of
time to construct the stadium. We get exactly what we want.
Nobody really loses in this except the state of Missouri's reputation,
(09:14):
which stinks anyway. Okay, so their government is concerned. Let's
move forward, delf and the fine people of the no.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I know what you're saying. Let's move forward to Brad's
question about Okay, so what's coming with the Royals. There
are reports out there that that Kansas is no and
I wish I had the headline in front of me. No,
no longer is it's not available for the Royals. I
can tell you that that's inaccurate. Like if that whatever,
(09:41):
the forget Let's forget about what somebody else wrote. People
whose sentiment is that Kansas is not an option for
the Royals are wrong the idea that Kansas is. I
think what we see is then the Chiefs recognized and
the Royals did not was Yeah, they're passionate about getting both.
They're banging the drum for both. They're banging the drum
for both when they had none. But they've been satiated
(10:05):
a little bit a lot. They got the chiefs.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
They got the chiefs, and they had to pay through
the nose.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They got the chiefs. And now the reality of how
we pay for it and what it means is real.
It's no longer like, well, we get there, we'll figure
it out. A friend of mine gave a good way,
like they wanted it. They got it. Now they'll figure
it out. Like there's times if you're like, look, big pictures,
we have to do this. We'll figure out how to
pay for it later. I don't think that. I think
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they're going to pay for it with starbonds, but like
how big the district is, all those different things, that's
a little bit of the process, and I think there
is an element of okay, we got this. Now. Now
they're not a team without one of the big four sports.
They're now a state without one of the big four sports.
So now a state that has the biggest sport, the NFL,
that we'll call it home. So if you're the Royals
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and when you're jerking around. You don't have all your
ducks in a row by that deadline, and you don't
realize that this is exactly what's going to happen, then
you didn't do your job. So is Kansas still a possibility? Yes?
Is Kansas gonna throw everything at the Royals the way
they did the Chiefs? No, If the Royals are going
to use Kansas as a location, they're going to have
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to come to Kansas with a plan. That's what I
see going on right now. And I think in a
lot of ways to your point about wanting to be downtown. Ultimately,
I don't know if they want to be, you know,
the Washington Square location versus the the North Kansas City.
I don't know that there's a lot of distinction between
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those two.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Those supposedly cast counties out now.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, just there there's a the January eight deadline is
coming gone to get them up onto a ballot in April,
right right, So now they were out a year ago.
This is what I will tell you, like right now,
if you ask them, you know, But this is the
problem that the Royals have. They keep missing deadline after
dead after deadline, and losing competitive after competitor Now, if
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they're duction in a row and they're ready to announce
Washington Square Park next week, then they let that deadline
pass because they know where they're going, right. If they
want to go to Kansas, they're going to have to
work for it. It's clear that nobody in the government
really wants to push hard for one hundred nineteenth in nall,
and so what's going to happen with the Royals? I
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think they've been moving quickly. Listen, I've heard some far outsides.
You know, the Transit Authority location has been brought back up.
It feels to me like the Royals are trying to
drum up some other locations to make sure wherever it
is they're ultimately going to go has competition and they
don't get raked over the coals. But I'll say this,
Missouri has just lost the chiefs. Missouri should be ready
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to If the sentiment of the people like Andy who
are calling is not just the vocal minority, and I
don't think it is. I think it's the sentiment of
most people. But think if you're a politician, you don't
want to piss your people off and lose the other team,
and you will put everything forward, and now you don't
have to cover the cost of both teams, which is
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what I've always said. Put one in Kansas, put one
in Missouri, figure out which one fits better where, and
let each state pay half the freight for the two teams.
And so to me, I think that mathematically still makes
the most sense.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Right, And I think the Royals are not going to
cost nearly as much as the Chiefs are going to
cost Kansas. They can still make a good deal for them.
And also just from a face saving standpoint, you know,
many people around the country thing that Kansas City is
in Kansas already, They're really gonna think it's in Kansas.
If both of both of the sports teams are in Kansas,
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what that must be like a spillover area like East
Saint Louis, Illinois, or you know, the Cincinnati side in
Kentucky or something, not the real actual Kansas City, the
city itself. So yeah, and that's certainly just a minor thing,
but I don't know if it's that minor, you just
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look like fools. Now one of the biggest stumbling blocks
for the Royals and the whole process. If Frank White
is now out of the picture and that probably helps
in some ways, and people can argue whether or not
he was, you know, working in the you know, for
a fair thing for his city that you know what
he quit cared about other things, or if it was
just a vendetta, which is probably part of the truth.
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But anyway, he's not there anymore, So I think that
helps in the end. If you want to have me,
if I'm going to guess now, I'm going to guess
again that the Royals are going to end up downtown somewhere.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
That's that's that's where I would guess too, write that
that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
But I think aren't we about as tired as we were?
The chiefsn't ready to just say can we just finish
this up please and figure out where they're going to play? Yeah,
we already don't know whether they're going to be on
TV this year that we're being told they will be
on to Beyond TV was somewhere we and it'll looked
the same or whatever, But who knows how easy it
(15:08):
will be a TBD. By the way, how does a
sports betting operation screw the pooch like FanDuel is in
what way? Well, I mean they're going bankrupt left and right.
Fan is a company.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
No, No, that's you see, that's where you're totally wrong.
And that's why I can't believe FanDuel about any of that.
FanDuel is fanduels is like, it's like the it's like
g E H A Field. Fandel is paying money to
be called FanDuel Network, but they don't have anything to
do with it. The the actual company.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Well, then they're still dumb, which was just hitching their
which is now being called diamond Sport.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's what it used to be, but that had bad
stigma after all their failures last year, so they changed
it to well, what the main Street that's right, yeah,
main street, but so which is really Sinclair Broadcasting, right,
So there's all these walls to not have the stink
what most people think is FANDL Like if if if
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Arrow had crumbled, it'd be like saying g E H
A Field failed. G G E H a did something wrong.
They didn't they it's naming rights. That's all that Fandel
is on. That is naming rights.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, thank you for explaining that still looks bad. I
don't I don't care. I mean, I'm glad that I
have the real information, and more importantly, the audience does.
But you still look like dummies. You know. I don't care.
I don't don't care why. I don't care why the
corner liquor store failed. But all I know is that
if a liquor store fails, somebody did something horribly wrong. Okay,
(16:49):
what empty? Did everybody stop drinking? I don't think so
licensed to print money?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Print money?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Okay, going with that whatever, I follow you there way
less than a decade ago. But whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, but no, I look that whole on that side,
Why did any of these teams go back and re
sign with them? Why did MLB even allow them to
when they failed? Once? I said this day or two ago,
when the story broke that they were defaulting now in
all their NBA deals, And now it looks like they're
going to dissolve the company and so and Major League Baseball.
(17:26):
I read a story today in fact that looks you
and find it real quick on my email. But read
a story today that Baseball has already said, Oh, don't.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Worry, Oh yeah they did. Rob Manfred says that we'll
we'll do this, we'll do the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
No, but it when't even comes to the job.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Uh, we're ready to do them.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I think he said, there's nothing better than me looking
through my email to try to find something because.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I read that story today. Yeah, we're ready to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, we're ready to do it, and nobody will. But
where the hell there's there was one other thing about
it anyway. But yeah, I mean, I don't understand how
you why you went back to them. Why didn't you
just do it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
You last year when they had problems, maybe lack of options,
I don't know. Maybe they felt like it was, you know,
still the best deal they could get. I have no
idea why it doesn't sound good to me.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Is no matter what here, no matter what happens, whether
it's main Street, a third party or MLB media, fans
are going to have the games.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Manford said.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
But they have seven NHL teams, thirteen NBA teams, and
nine Major League Baseball teams. And there are lots of
them that, you know, there are not lots of but
their hand, they had more than that. And some of
them are like, Okay, we're out, We're not messing around
with this. How are you still screwing around with something
that is clearly a failing entity.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Like I said, maybe lack of options, that's all I
can think of. Or laziness.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Remember when they used to be on Channel four forty
years ago. There's oh four there it is.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, By the way, I love this. Main Street Sports
has been attempting to sell itself to the London based
what Dezone is how you're supposed to produce for several
months and before the holidays, a formal agreement look to
be near. Additional issues have developed more recently, though, including
a desire by Dezone to reduce local rights fees to
many of the involved teams.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Is desire spilled DSR.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
No secure additional digital content rights and add more years
to the term or all of those. I'd just like
to point out that the Royals in party with Major
League Baseball signed back on with a group that is
basically trying to sell what they have to give you
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less for longer. Will you give them more?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Good plan, good selling, let me go.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
And you can't figure out why the ball club didn't
get the stadium deal done before the football team did.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Well, at least they have company with being stupid.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I mean there's like, like I get it, there's other
entities that are out beyond. But you just can't keep
ending up on the short end of every deal and
be like it's somebody else's fault.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Right, And the Royals have basically been had one bad
TV deal after another.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Four years ago, three years ago, I think maybe it
was three years ago. We played Mark Cuban on TV
saying the reason he sold controlling interest of the Dallas
Mavericks is that when he bought him, it was about
tech and television deals. He goes, I can't remember how
he had something. He's like, I own that, or I'm
the bomb on that, or I'm the best at that,
he said, But today it's about real estate deals and
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that's not what I do. So I'm getting out of
the way so that the Mavericks can get the best
deal done to build their new building, which you think
about American Airlines Arena. They already are like, well that's
got to go because we need a massive real estate
deal or we can generate revenue for the Mavericks. I'm
getting out of the way so that somebody who knows
what they're doing on that can do it. And I
said it that I played it, and I said, this
is what the Royals and Chiefs have to understand. The
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Chiefs seem to understand it. The Royals did not seem
to get it. The man that's been in charge of
what they're doing is has nothing. He's never done anything
on real estate deals. And I'm not talk about John Sherman.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I'm talking about brook Sherman, right, And then they brought
in somebody else who supposedly does.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Who supposedly does, but my understanding is has nothing to
do with the stadium. He's handling all their other revenue streams,
not the stadium, none of it. I've talked to people
that are involved in things, and nobody says they're talking
to that guy. They're all talking to brook Sherman. So listen.
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I mean, I love the Royals, I love the Chiefs.
I want them here. I don't like sitting here saying
like that. But they've been spinning their wheels forever on
this thing.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
They just may end up with the kind of deal
that they envisioned. But they looked around at the landscape
of deals that were being done and they were you know, hey, there,
maybe the latest one that spoiled people was Nashville. I
think is supposed to be the second best deal that
any franchise has ever gotten for their new stadium, the
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football one. So I think they're looking at that landscape
and thinking, you know this is going to be We're
going to get some kind of sweetheart deal. Well maybe
you're not. And are you going to just sit around
and do nothing and then end up with a lease
expiring in an old stadium that you don't want to
be in, that you said you don't want to be in.
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It's just well, the cancer concrete.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean, I don't know if you know this, but
on April first of twenty thirty one, it will begin
reigning concrete on the heads of anyone who standing in
that stadium.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah, like they're going to trot one point seven million
people into a stadium that's a ticking life ability.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You feel safe when you go there. But no, as
soon as that least is over, right, then it's gonna
fall apart.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Right, That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I mean, Yeah, it's Look, I think the Royals are
are closing in on something they better be. They need
to be.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I would say they better be, is yes.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And because the clock is ticking on getting something done.
And so look, and I want to reiterate this as
we're staying here. From a baseball standpoint, they're spending more
money every single year, they're hiring qualified people.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The spanding baseball side, there's nothing. I think they're in
dream shape.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
They're they're expanding the analytics department, they're expanding the coaching staffs.
They are signing the best players, uh you know, in
the draft. There is there is nothing to and by
the way, they went through a pandemic. They do have
a TV deal which they inherited. Like they didn't they
didn't sign this deal. I think they should have ejected.
(24:01):
I mean, Todd and I talked to John Sherman out
in spring training several years ago, and I think John's
got the vision of everybody being under MLB umbrella already.
And I'm sure there's a lot more to it than
I know. You know, John Sherman doesn't really want to
talk much to people right now. Okay, so I'd love
to hear about, Okay, what is the plan? Right It's
also very difficult to try to get We make requests
(24:23):
that don't get asked to the people we request down there,
So you get to a point where you're like, well,
why am I fooling around with this? Okay, but I'm
sure that John, I know he would like to get
to where it's all under MLB. So why were you
there two years ago? But my first point that's now
I'm sounding bad, But they've had a difficult TV situation,
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to deal with the pandemic, all those things, and I
know they've had at least one cash call, and yet
they're still pouring more money. They could be like, strip
it down, go with a fifty million dollars pay roll.
We're running this lean to meet until we get a
new building, and they're not doing that. So I I
feel I don't like harping on the Royals because I
do think the ownership group, which is all Kansas City people,
or at least people with deep Kansas City roots, even
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if they don't live here year round, I do think
they have absolutely one hundred percent the best intentions for
Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
But I also think that anybody who enters into something
like this wants something out of it, and I do
think that they thought the new stadium situation was going
to be somewhat of a boon for them, and I
think it's what's turning out that it's now maybe even
more than ever because your Your biggest suitor just emptied
(25:39):
their pockets to the Chiefs, so they are far less
likely to come up with the kind of deal you
probably thought you were going to get. And now they've
just got to go to Plan B, which may not
be as good as what you thought you were going
to get, but it's better than no plan. You just
have to put that aside.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
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Speaker 5 (27:21):
Right, the Lofted Delicatessen. End of the hour answer, what
two teams played in the first NFL wild Card game?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well, you said NFL because the Raiders and Chiefs they
had not called a wildcard, but did play.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
A playoff game, a playoff game where they were tied,
so they had to play it off. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well, the Chiefs got in, well they were, it was scheduled.
They had what did they.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Have in sixty nine? There were the second place team
of one current division. They played the first place team
of the other. So there were two. They didn't call
them wildcard game, but that's what they were. They were
non division winners that advanced into the class. Raiders beat
the Oilers, but that's not what you're talking to.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Beat the Jets.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
That a wild card game?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Who are the two teams? Seventy eight NFC NFC seventy
eight story, Well, the Bucks gotten in there at that
point seventy.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Nine, so I assume there's just one wild card game.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
There were two wild card games.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean this this is first that day or something.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
One in each conference.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, but it was an NFC game, he said, So.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
We just throwing cowboys, and no cowboys.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Would have won the division.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
It's not the Cowboys. Uh, seventy eight. I thought they
could have one.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
What they were the one there were the one one eight.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I don't think anybody else in the NFC wh over
Hill game was down out Gibbs. You hadn't been wasn't
bringing them up yet? Vermil wasn't ready to bring them
up yet, was he. So I don't think it was
an team or Myron Eagles. One of them was Eagles.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Eagles is one?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Is it for meal?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It is?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Falcons Eagles in nineteen seventy eight and ended the Falcons
one in Atlanta fourteen thirteen. The demise of the Eagles
in that day actually goes back to maybe the most
famous win in their franchise history, the Mirror one.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
And then they turned around a loss to the Lowbo Cowboys. Yeah, okay,
I remember that now.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
It goes back to earlier in the seventy eight season,
the miracle at the Meadowlands lost in the Shuffle. In
that game was at their kicker, Nick mckamire suffered fractured
ribs covering a kick and was done for the year.
The Eagles chose not to replace him, but to let
their punter Mike Michelle, who had never been a place kicker,
handled the kicking duties the rest of the year. He
was not particularly good. He missed a very short field
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goal at the thirty four yard field goal with seven
seconds left, but have won the game for Philadelphia, and
it wasn't even close.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
So the Falcons never replaced there the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
The Eagles never replaced him. Their kicker got missed and
he missed or he missed.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, he said it the other way. But I think
Dick Formial was that at a time when he was
head coach, offensive coordinator, quarterback coach, and special teams coach.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Probably so.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So he tells the story about what he was like.
He was, I was my own offense coordinator. I was
only it's like I finally had to realize I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Do it all.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I was going to say that he didn't sound like
he did a very good job as the special teams coach. Well,
kickers whatever, this guy looks pretty good in practice. Let's
save a few bucks.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It was so bad that like the player, none of them,
no one was even mad at the kicker. They're like, dude,
you know, there's a great shot of him. The kicker
just kind of with his head down. The holder still
has his finger out where the ball was. He knew
right away that I missed it.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, I wonder if I wonder if there was some
different rule about not being able to sign guys or something,
then I don't know, I'd probably doubtful. But they just
didn't put the importance of the kickers, like good kickers
were like sixty five percent or something, so you're like,
or seventy percent, and so then you're like, well, this
guy's fifty five. What are we really losing here?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
He didn't attempt to field goal. The rest of the
regular season was eight of eleven on extra points, including missing.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
One in each of the final three short extra points.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
To say so, they never they never kick a field
goal until it mattered.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Until lining up for the potential game winner to keep
your season going.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
There, let's let's do it. And it was a very
short one thirty four yards, So that's from the twenty four.
So there at the seventeen, I guess you wouldn't go
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to be learned?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Well? I did it last week. I'll do it again.
Sam McDowell writes very intriguing, well researched columns, one after
the other. There's another one today about how much the
how horrible the Chiefs were in the last three games
of the year and now. The lesson of the column
basically is that the Chiefs have relied far too much
on Patrick Mahomes and I think it finally came home
(32:48):
to roost this year. I think they figured out or
we're hit in the face with the fact that just
having Patrick Mahomes, who obviously carried them to the Super
Bowl last year when they really didn't, you know, when
they won one freakish game after the other, is nobody's
that good. And they've i think believed it's just sort
(33:11):
of well, you know, by evidence, you know, no matter what,
how you know, mediocre. It seemed like some of the
other aspects of their team were no matter how many
injuries in the offensive line they got, somehow Pat was
going to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
So what what what? What should they have done? Like,
I grant you that, I'm fine with the lesson is
Pat can't do it all by himself. But it's the
adding in like that was the plan that was constructed
by the Chiefs was for just Pat to do it all.
I think that's an unfair characteristic.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I think they're overestimating some of their talent because okay, so.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
That done everything to do with well, pattill just take
care of it. That has to do with they made
mistakes on.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I think I think they've over evaluated some of their
own players. It's become kind of obvious. And then in
doing that, they haven't been maybe as aggressive. I mean
I think they had. They thought they had a like
powerhouse receiving corps. This year, clearly they didn't. Yeah, so
that's just a misjudgment. Now you can't help injuries. They
(34:11):
also have for years have decided they could paper together
one of the tackles. Year after year after year after
year they did that and it has kind of worked.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Paper together well.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I mean, they bring in a veteran on a one
year you know, pay some money guy came in. They
didn't really like him that much because they'd eventually cut
ties with him, and you know, didn't try to. I know,
it's hard to draft the tackle later. I mean, all
these things are fact, there's no question about that. But
I think in the end, judging this year and how
poorly they played and how bad they looked when Mahomes
(34:48):
wasn't there, I mean the status they're dreadful, I mean,
like and that they refused to embrace certain aspects of
play calling, like play action passes. The Rams head nineteen
touchdowns on play action this year the Chiefs had won. Yeah,
I mean there are things that they just maybe it
is going to take this they don't have to like
(35:09):
tear it down, and you know it's you know, when
you've got Patrick Mahomes. I heard you yesterday. It's foolish
to say we're going to go through a couple of
year rebuild here. No, you can't waste two years of
prime Patrick Mahomes unless you knew that, Oh, he ain't
coming back till November next year. You know, he's out,
he's who's the Celtics, he's statum, he's not playing this
(35:31):
year this year, so we really can't. Let's not plan
on this year. So you can't do that. But I
think maybe the evidence right in front of them will say,
you know what we thought. Forget the other stuff. You know,
we thought Rashie Rice is really a number one?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Is he?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Somehow? We think? You know, we keep bringing back Hollywood Brown,
we keep bringing back the band of old wide receivers.
Whenever there's somebody to be signed, who is it, Oh, buddy,
old friend, alert, here comes MVS or here comes some
one of the other guys. Juju, come on back, buddy.
(36:11):
Maybe some of those things need to be readjusted. We
all know that Mahomes is great, but I also will
say that from peak Mahomes when they were great when
their offense was at the very best. It's leveled out some.
He still I think most people would still want him
if they had to choose. But the difference between him
and the field now, I don't think this is great.
(36:33):
I don't think you make it.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I think the difference is the same. I think the
field has done a better job of putting more schematically
and talent wise around their guy. And I think the
Chiefs need to evolve this offseason.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I agree they have to evolve. There has to be
some real self scouting. And I think they also they
need a strong draft. They've got a better chance.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Well, you can do it. You earned the number nine pick.
You can't wasted. You got nine, you got forty. Right, Yeah,
it's clear that they're going to have to draft well.
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just bad Florida bad.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Uh Florida game. I think it's great because I think
that they didn't really play. They didn't show me that
they were better, but they won, so that might inject
some confidence in a feel good factor to which can
be really important. But you know, they they banked one
in against Florida to beat them, and but Florida hasn't
been in any great shakes, and Kentucky decided they wanted
(39:37):
to lose apparently in the last couple of minutes, they
just kicked the what do you want to do, We'll lose,
We'll lose. We'll turn it over on every possession and
see see if that gets it done. Now, like I said,
I think Missouri has some talent, but I didn't come
away from, for instance, the Kansas win or the Missouri
win the other day, feeling that much better about either team.
(39:59):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
The fact the fact that the two wins came after
some an immediate influx of two players, one of which
that's played fantastic, makes me think it's much more legit.
They didn't just start winning, you know, Jayden Stone came
in and he scored twenty points and then seven boards
against Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
They didn't. But I have two guys who can score. Now,
I think as a team they didn't. I wasn't swelled
up with you know, like, hey, I think they've and
I did it just win team though? Do they know?
That's what they don't? That's that's what that's what we
were looking at.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
After they get wrecked by forty three by Illinois, You're like,
this is thirty points. They've reverted right back to the
team that like, you know, we may be at oh
and eight, are they going to win a game? People
might not three.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Or four games, but you know, now I think eight.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
So will I will grant you. There's probably a little
bit of an overreaction because of how bad they looked
against Illinois. They got house by Kansas in the second
half by twenty. I mean they also those two teams
by sixty three points. Their best win is against like
one oh five Minnesota, right, so there was nothing to like,
and but now they put to together. So I'm sure
there is a little bit of an overreaction to the
fact because it's just so surprising how they've played. But
(41:06):
I don't think you can minimize. Oh, Kentucky was five
and the Ken Palm and Florida was fifteen.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
It was on the road. I'm not you know, I'm
not tossing them away because they are wins. They're good wins.
They might theoretically you play better, they might help you
make the tournament. You eight and ten in the I don't,
well not, I don't you don't think so.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I don't think so no, because they have no an
con record all I think they I think they need
ten and eight.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Well, then they're not getting it. Oh okay, okay, that's
what I'll say. If they need ten and eight, I
don't think that's happening, But prove Curtis, prove me wrong. Tigers.
Now Kansas said it was every bit is important. They
would have been owing to they would have been in trouble.
This league is a wagon.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, you know, Michael Swain said if the Jayhawks lose
tonight to TCU, smashed the panic button. That's what he said.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
And they really did lose. I mean, you don't get
gifted three point three point foul at the buzzer. Although
I will say that making three to tie is one
of the toughest things to do in sports, and I
think it's one of the most admirable accomplishments. When you
walk up there with the game on the line and
you've got to make all three, I don't even care
if you're how good a free throw shooter you are.
(42:23):
That's something. So that was that was impressive.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I will say that I think the SEC might be
touch over rated this year.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
Well, coming back Florida and Kentucky are what they appear
to be, then that right there is going to make
them worse.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, I think I think Missouri. I think they can
do ten and eight. The way they played the last
couple weeks, we'll.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Find see go get them and make it more interesting,
that's for sure.
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Just tremendous.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, good holidays, holiday, Happy New Years. You get drunk
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They would roll you overseat and drowned.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
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Speaker 4 (02:56):
I'm as sick as a dog in New Year's Eve,
so I did absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Sick of watching you like a fool yourself. Is that
what you're saying, lampshade on your head.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I went through a phase where I was a fool
on New Year's Eve fairly often, but not anymore. That
was a long time ago, A long time ago.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'd go down that road. I don't think we'd get
to anything else if I went down that road.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Now we've hung on some recent New Year's Eve, don't
entirely foolish. Yeah, but that was still a while.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, I was just cutting a rug. Uh cutting a rug,
cutting the rug. Yes, let's move on stripping the light. Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh yeah, okay, okay, uh Andy called last hour or no,
it wasn't Andy. It was Brad who called at the
end of the hour, who wanted to talk about where
the Royal Stadium is going to go. Recent reports. I
know there are reports out there that Kansas I think
is I can't remember how it was said something I
(03:55):
think was it. I don't remember exactly how it was said.
I what do you think about where the Royals sit?
The people in the state of Kansas have made it
clear that they feel like the Royals let up deadline lapse, right,
and that was December thirty. First. We know that the
actual writing of the Star Bonds meant that there when
if you extended it, you extended it by a year.
(04:16):
So theoretically and technically that's out there. But it seems
to me that the good faith intentions were we will
extend it. But we're not extending this for you to
just play around, you know, play with your food for
another six months before you get serious. We're extending it.
We expect it to be done soon by the end
of the year at the latest, the Chiefs met that deadline.
The Royals didn't. What do you make of that situation
(04:38):
right now?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I have gone through so many metamorphoses on these two stadiums,
and now one is done, thankfully. And I always thought that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Thankfully as in your you're tired of Arrowhead or just done. Thankfully,
we're done with the talking.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
About don't have to talk about it, least we know
where it is. I I have always kind of stuck
to the thought that the Chiefs were going to end
up staying at Arrowhead in some way, shape or form,
the chief and the Royals were going downtown. I think
we've got all the evidence in the world we need
now that the Royals really want to go downtown. They're
just waiting around for speaking of playing with your food,
(05:15):
Missouri and or slash Jackson County to stop playing with
their food and come up with something that the Royals like. Now,
the Royals may not end up getting what they like,
but I think that has made it pretty obvious that
John Sherman and his ownership group would like to be downtown,
but they haven't seen the plan that makes them happy yet,
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or they've seen it, and whatever is included in the
site or the idea or whatever is not to their satisfaction.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I will say this, the Royals made their intention of
getting a new stadium known that they wanted out of
their current position long before the Chiefs did, right, And
the Chiefs have then arrived at that as a possibilit
and then been able to construct a deal that got
them what it would take to get them out of
(06:07):
their old home. They also seemed content to stay to
some degree, I know. So we will say like, well,
like here's how I would describe it. The first plan,
they're tied at the hip, like, this is what's different.
This is what people I think failed. The factor in
one thing is the last one. Well, the chiefs plan
wasn't very good. They didn't put together a good plan,
So how could we have possibly done it? Well, they
(06:27):
can only put together a plan that had them tied
to getting the exact same amount of money that the
Royals did. The last vote people forget had the Royals
and Chiefs tied at the hip where it was dollar
for dollar. So any plan that did g well, we
didn't get a vote on a dome. Well, the Royals
were going to ask for a four and a half
million dollar project, So it was impossible for the Chiefs
to get the money they needed out of Jackson County
(06:50):
to build a dome where it was. So by having
the old structure of how these two teams, which was
brilliant in its moment, having that be what you put
to keep them handcuffed the Chiefs in what they could do,
so you really left it to where all they could
do is renovate. So let's be clear, now, should that
lease have been busted up? Should they have done more?
(07:12):
Should the Chiefs have announced we need to be separated.
I don't know. Maybe, yes, no, I don't care. At
the end of the day, it's if you're gonna woo
a big fancy business, you gotta woo a big fancy business,
and sometimes you gotta re recruit, just like in college football. Hey,
the nil deal, I way out played it. It's gonna
cost you more to keep me. Now, well, you want
(07:34):
to keep the kid, you got to pay them more.
Like That's where it was. And so that deal did
not pass, right, they had an opportunity to keep them
there if you pass that. It didn't pass. And I
don't blame people for not passing it. But I'm also
not going to excuse them either.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
No, And what the chiefs in the end saw is that, hey,
this is sitting here. This, by many accounts that I've read,
is the greatest publicly funded offer that any sports team
has ever gotten, period.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So which is which is frankly what I think it
would take it, which is frankly what I think it
was going to take to get the Hunt family to
agree to a leader.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
They were not. I mean, Kansas read the tea leaves
and said they really like it there. They don't want
to leave there. They feel a loyalty to there. So
if we're going to do it, we have to win,
and win big. We have to win by wide margins,
and they did so. When you and if you don't
know what's going on across the state line, then you're
(08:35):
not doing your job. And when they start firing, you
have to match them. And if you don't match them,
you have no one to blame it.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yourself, right, And I'm not even sure they had to
match them now they don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I mean, you have to up your game. Yeah, yeah,
they did not have to match. No, when they didn't
come close.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
No, they didn't even come close. And finally, also it
was a long process. And finally, to their credit, I
would say, the chiefs were sick of doing it and said,
let's let's make sure we get this and then by
the time our lease is out, we have plenty of
time to construct the stadium. We get exactly what we want.
Nobody really loses in this except the state of Missouri's reputation,
(09:14):
which stinks anyway. Okay, so their government is concerned. Let's
move forward, delf and the fine people of the no.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I know what you're saying. Let's move forward to Brad's
question about Okay, so what's coming with the Royals. There
are reports out there that that Kansas is no and
I wish I had the headline in front of me. No,
no longer is it's not available for the Royals. I
can tell you that that's inaccurate. Like if that whatever,
(09:41):
the forget Let's forget about what somebody else wrote. People
whose sentiment is that Kansas is not an option for
the Royals are wrong the idea that Kansas is. I
think what we see is then the Chiefs recognized and
the Royals did not was Yeah, they're passionate about getting both.
They're banging the drum for both. They're banging the drum
for both when they had none. But they've been satiated
(10:05):
a little bit a lot. They got the chiefs.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
They got the chiefs, and they had to pay through
the nose.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They got the chiefs. And now the reality of how
we pay for it and what it means is real.
It's no longer like, well, we get there, we'll figure
it out. A friend of mine gave a good way,
like they wanted it. They got it. Now they'll figure
it out. Like there's times if you're like, look, big pictures,
we have to do this. We'll figure out how to
pay for it later. I don't think that. I think
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they're going to pay for it with starbonds, but like
how big the district is, all those different things, that's
a little bit of the process, and I think there
is an element of okay, we got this. Now. Now
they're not a team without one of the big four sports.
They're now a state without one of the big four sports.
So now a state that has the biggest sport, the NFL,
that we'll call it home. So if you're the Royals
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and when you're jerking around. You don't have all your
ducks in a row by that deadline, and you don't
realize that this is exactly what's going to happen, then
you didn't do your job. So is Kansas still a possibility? Yes?
Is Kansas gonna throw everything at the Royals the way
they did the Chiefs? No, If the Royals are going
to use Kansas as a location, they're going to have
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to come to Kansas with a plan. That's what I
see going on right now. And I think in a
lot of ways to your point about wanting to be downtown. Ultimately,
I don't know if they want to be, you know,
the Washington Square location versus the the North Kansas City.
I don't know that there's a lot of distinction between
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those two.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Those supposedly cast counties out now.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, just there there's a the January eight deadline is
coming gone to get them up onto a ballot in April,
right right, So now they were out a year ago.
This is what I will tell you, like right now,
if you ask them, you know, But this is the
problem that the Royals have. They keep missing deadline after
dead after deadline, and losing competitive after competitor Now, if
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they're duction in a row and they're ready to announce
Washington Square Park next week, then they let that deadline
pass because they know where they're going, right. If they
want to go to Kansas, they're going to have to
work for it. It's clear that nobody in the government
really wants to push hard for one hundred nineteenth in nall,
and so what's going to happen with the Royals? I
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think they've been moving quickly. Listen, I've heard some far outsides.
You know, the Transit Authority location has been brought back up.
It feels to me like the Royals are trying to
drum up some other locations to make sure wherever it
is they're ultimately going to go has competition and they
don't get raked over the coals. But I'll say this,
Missouri has just lost the chiefs. Missouri should be ready
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to If the sentiment of the people like Andy who
are calling is not just the vocal minority, and I
don't think it is. I think it's the sentiment of
most people. But think if you're a politician, you don't
want to piss your people off and lose the other team,
and you will put everything forward, and now you don't
have to cover the cost of both teams, which is
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what I've always said. Put one in Kansas, put one
in Missouri, figure out which one fits better where, and
let each state pay half the freight for the two teams.
And so to me, I think that mathematically still makes
the most sense.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Right, And I think the Royals are not going to
cost nearly as much as the Chiefs are going to
cost Kansas. They can still make a good deal for them.
And also just from a face saving standpoint, you know,
many people around the country thing that Kansas City is
in Kansas already, They're really gonna think it's in Kansas.
If both of both of the sports teams are in Kansas,
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what that must be like a spillover area like East
Saint Louis, Illinois, or you know, the Cincinnati side in
Kentucky or something, not the real actual Kansas City, the
city itself. So yeah, and that's certainly just a minor thing,
but I don't know if it's that minor, you just
(14:08):
look like fools. Now one of the biggest stumbling blocks
for the Royals and the whole process. If Frank White
is now out of the picture and that probably helps
in some ways, and people can argue whether or not
he was, you know, working in the you know, for
a fair thing for his city that you know what
he quit cared about other things, or if it was
just a vendetta, which is probably part of the truth.
(14:29):
But anyway, he's not there anymore, So I think that
helps in the end. If you want to have me,
if I'm going to guess now, I'm going to guess
again that the Royals are going to end up downtown somewhere.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
That's that's that's where I would guess too, write that
that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
But I think aren't we about as tired as we were?
The chiefsn't ready to just say can we just finish
this up please and figure out where they're going to play? Yeah,
we already don't know whether they're going to be on
TV this year that we're being told they will be
on to Beyond TV was somewhere we and it'll looked
the same or whatever, But who knows how easy it
(15:08):
will be a TBD. By the way, how does a
sports betting operation screw the pooch like FanDuel is in
what way? Well, I mean they're going bankrupt left and right.
Fan is a company.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
No, No, that's you see, that's where you're totally wrong.
And that's why I can't believe FanDuel about any of that.
FanDuel is fanduels is like, it's like the it's like
g E H A Field. Fandel is paying money to
be called FanDuel Network, but they don't have anything to
do with it. The the actual company.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Well, then they're still dumb, which was just hitching their
which is now being called diamond Sport.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
That's what it used to be, but that had bad
stigma after all their failures last year, so they changed
it to well, what the main Street that's right, yeah,
main street, but so which is really Sinclair Broadcasting, right,
So there's all these walls to not have the stink
what most people think is FANDL Like if if if
(16:12):
Arrow had crumbled, it'd be like saying g E H
A Field failed. G G E H a did something wrong.
They didn't they it's naming rights. That's all that Fandel
is on. That is naming rights.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, thank you for explaining that still looks bad. I
don't I don't care. I mean, I'm glad that I
have the real information, and more importantly, the audience does.
But you still look like dummies. You know. I don't care.
I don't don't care why. I don't care why the
corner liquor store failed. But all I know is that
if a liquor store fails, somebody did something horribly wrong. Okay,
(16:49):
what empty? Did everybody stop drinking? I don't think so
licensed to print money?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Print money?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Okay, going with that whatever, I follow you there way
less than a decade ago. But whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, but no, I look that whole on that side,
Why did any of these teams go back and re
sign with them? Why did MLB even allow them to
when they failed? Once? I said this day or two ago,
when the story broke that they were defaulting now in
all their NBA deals, And now it looks like they're
going to dissolve the company and so and Major League Baseball.
(17:26):
I read a story today in fact that looks you
and find it real quick on my email. But read
a story today that Baseball has already said, Oh, don't.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Worry, Oh yeah they did. Rob Manfred says that we'll
we'll do this, we'll do the broadcast.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
No, but it when't even comes to the job.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Uh, we're ready to do them.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
I think he said, there's nothing better than me looking
through my email to try to find something because.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I read that story today. Yeah, we're ready to do it.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, we're ready to do it, and nobody will. But
where the hell there's there was one other thing about
it anyway. But yeah, I mean, I don't understand how
you why you went back to them. Why didn't you
just do it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
You last year when they had problems, maybe lack of options,
I don't know. Maybe they felt like it was, you know,
still the best deal they could get. I have no
idea why it doesn't sound good to me.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Is no matter what here, no matter what happens, whether
it's main Street, a third party or MLB media, fans
are going to have the games.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Manford said.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
But they have seven NHL teams, thirteen NBA teams, and
nine Major League Baseball teams. And there are lots of
them that, you know, there are not lots of but
their hand, they had more than that. And some of
them are like, Okay, we're out, We're not messing around
with this. How are you still screwing around with something
that is clearly a failing entity.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Like I said, maybe lack of options, that's all I
can think of. Or laziness.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Remember when they used to be on Channel four forty
years ago. There's oh four there it is.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, By the way, I love this. Main Street Sports
has been attempting to sell itself to the London based
what Dezone is how you're supposed to produce for several
months and before the holidays, a formal agreement look to
be near. Additional issues have developed more recently, though, including
a desire by Dezone to reduce local rights fees to
many of the involved teams.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Is desire spilled DSR.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
No secure additional digital content rights and add more years
to the term or all of those. I'd just like
to point out that the Royals in party with Major
League Baseball signed back on with a group that is
basically trying to sell what they have to give you
(19:51):
less for longer. Will you give them more?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Good plan, good selling, let me go.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
And you can't figure out why the ball club didn't
get the stadium deal done before the football team did.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Well, at least they have company with being stupid.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I mean there's like, like I get it, there's other
entities that are out beyond. But you just can't keep
ending up on the short end of every deal and
be like it's somebody else's fault.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Right, And the Royals have basically been had one bad
TV deal after another.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Four years ago, three years ago, I think maybe it
was three years ago. We played Mark Cuban on TV
saying the reason he sold controlling interest of the Dallas
Mavericks is that when he bought him, it was about
tech and television deals. He goes, I can't remember how
he had something. He's like, I own that, or I'm
the bomb on that, or I'm the best at that,
he said, But today it's about real estate deals and
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that's not what I do. So I'm getting out of
the way so that the Mavericks can get the best
deal done to build their new building, which you think
about American Airlines Arena. They already are like, well that's
got to go because we need a massive real estate
deal or we can generate revenue for the Mavericks. I'm
getting out of the way so that somebody who knows
what they're doing on that can do it. And I
said it that I played it, and I said, this
is what the Royals and Chiefs have to understand. The
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Chiefs seem to understand it. The Royals did not seem
to get it. The man that's been in charge of
what they're doing is has nothing. He's never done anything
on real estate deals. And I'm not talk about John Sherman.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I'm talking about brook Sherman, right, And then they brought
in somebody else who supposedly does.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Who supposedly does, but my understanding is has nothing to
do with the stadium. He's handling all their other revenue streams,
not the stadium, none of it. I've talked to people
that are involved in things, and nobody says they're talking
to that guy. They're all talking to brook Sherman. So listen.
(21:50):
I mean, I love the Royals, I love the Chiefs.
I want them here. I don't like sitting here saying
like that. But they've been spinning their wheels forever on
this thing.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
They just may end up with the kind of deal
that they envisioned. But they looked around at the landscape
of deals that were being done and they were you know, hey, there,
maybe the latest one that spoiled people was Nashville. I
think is supposed to be the second best deal that
any franchise has ever gotten for their new stadium, the
(22:18):
football one. So I think they're looking at that landscape
and thinking, you know this is going to be We're
going to get some kind of sweetheart deal. Well maybe
you're not. And are you going to just sit around
and do nothing and then end up with a lease
expiring in an old stadium that you don't want to
be in, that you said you don't want to be in.
(22:40):
It's just well, the cancer concrete.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean, I don't know if you know this, but
on April first of twenty thirty one, it will begin
reigning concrete on the heads of anyone who standing in
that stadium.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah, like they're going to trot one point seven million
people into a stadium that's a ticking life ability.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You feel safe when you go there. But no, as
soon as that least is over, right, then it's gonna
fall apart.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Right, That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I mean, Yeah, it's Look, I think the Royals are
are closing in on something they better be. They need
to be.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I would say they better be, is yes.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And because the clock is ticking on getting something done.
And so look, and I want to reiterate this as
we're staying here. From a baseball standpoint, they're spending more
money every single year, they're hiring qualified people.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The spanding baseball side, there's nothing. I think they're in
dream shape.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
They're they're expanding the analytics department, they're expanding the coaching staffs.
They are signing the best players, uh you know, in
the draft. There is there is nothing to and by
the way, they went through a pandemic. They do have
a TV deal which they inherited. Like they didn't they
didn't sign this deal. I think they should have ejected.
(24:01):
I mean, Todd and I talked to John Sherman out
in spring training several years ago, and I think John's
got the vision of everybody being under MLB umbrella already.
And I'm sure there's a lot more to it than
I know. You know, John Sherman doesn't really want to
talk much to people right now. Okay, so I'd love
to hear about, Okay, what is the plan? Right It's
also very difficult to try to get We make requests
(24:23):
that don't get asked to the people we request down there,
So you get to a point where you're like, well,
why am I fooling around with this? Okay, but I'm
sure that John, I know he would like to get
to where it's all under MLB. So why were you
there two years ago? But my first point that's now
I'm sounding bad, But they've had a difficult TV situation,
(24:45):
to deal with the pandemic, all those things, and I
know they've had at least one cash call, and yet
they're still pouring more money. They could be like, strip
it down, go with a fifty million dollars pay roll.
We're running this lean to meet until we get a
new building, and they're not doing that. So I I
feel I don't like harping on the Royals because I
do think the ownership group, which is all Kansas City people,
or at least people with deep Kansas City roots, even
(25:08):
if they don't live here year round, I do think
they have absolutely one hundred percent the best intentions for
Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
But I also think that anybody who enters into something
like this wants something out of it, and I do
think that they thought the new stadium situation was going
to be somewhat of a boon for them, and I
think it's what's turning out that it's now maybe even
more than ever because your Your biggest suitor just emptied
(25:39):
their pockets to the Chiefs, so they are far less
likely to come up with the kind of deal you
probably thought you were going to get. And now they've
just got to go to Plan B, which may not
be as good as what you thought you were going
to get, but it's better than no plan. You just
have to put that aside.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Chiefs are not going to be played in the playoffs.
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Speaker 5 (27:21):
Right, the Lofted Delicatessen. End of the hour answer, what
two teams played in the first NFL wild Card game?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Well, you said NFL because the Raiders and Chiefs they
had not called a wildcard, but did play.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
A playoff game, a playoff game where they were tied,
so they had to play it off. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well, the Chiefs got in, well they were, it was scheduled.
They had what did they.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Have in sixty nine? There were the second place team
of one current division. They played the first place team
of the other. So there were two. They didn't call
them wildcard game, but that's what they were. They were
non division winners that advanced into the class. Raiders beat
the Oilers, but that's not what you're talking to.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Beat the Jets.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
That a wild card game?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Who are the two teams? Seventy eight NFC NFC seventy
eight story, Well, the Bucks gotten in there at that
point seventy.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Nine, so I assume there's just one wild card game.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
There were two wild card games.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean this this is first that day or something.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
One in each conference.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, but it was an NFC game, he said, So.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
We just throwing cowboys, and no cowboys.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Would have won the division.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
It's not the Cowboys. Uh, seventy eight. I thought they
could have one.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
What they were the one there were the one one eight.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I don't think anybody else in the NFC wh over
Hill game was down out Gibbs. You hadn't been wasn't
bringing them up yet? Vermil wasn't ready to bring them
up yet, was he. So I don't think it was
an team or Myron Eagles. One of them was Eagles.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Eagles is one?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Is it for meal?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
It is?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Falcons Eagles in nineteen seventy eight and ended the Falcons
one in Atlanta fourteen thirteen. The demise of the Eagles
in that day actually goes back to maybe the most
famous win in their franchise history, the Mirror one.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
And then they turned around a loss to the Lowbo Cowboys. Yeah, okay,
I remember that now.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
It goes back to earlier in the seventy eight season,
the miracle at the Meadowlands lost in the Shuffle. In
that game was at their kicker, Nick mckamire suffered fractured
ribs covering a kick and was done for the year.
The Eagles chose not to replace him, but to let
their punter Mike Michelle, who had never been a place kicker,
handled the kicking duties the rest of the year. He
was not particularly good. He missed a very short field
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goal at the thirty four yard field goal with seven
seconds left, but have won the game for Philadelphia, and
it wasn't even close.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
So the Falcons never replaced there the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
The Eagles never replaced him. Their kicker got missed and
he missed or he missed.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, he said it the other way. But I think
Dick Formial was that at a time when he was
head coach, offensive coordinator, quarterback coach, and special teams coach.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Probably so.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So he tells the story about what he was like.
He was, I was my own offense coordinator. I was
only it's like I finally had to realize I can't.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Do it all.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I was going to say that he didn't sound like
he did a very good job as the special teams coach. Well,
kickers whatever, this guy looks pretty good in practice. Let's
save a few bucks.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It was so bad that like the player, none of them,
no one was even mad at the kicker. They're like, dude,
you know, there's a great shot of him. The kicker
just kind of with his head down. The holder still
has his finger out where the ball was. He knew
right away that I missed it.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, I wonder if I wonder if there was some
different rule about not being able to sign guys or something,
then I don't know, I'd probably doubtful. But they just
didn't put the importance of the kickers, like good kickers
were like sixty five percent or something, so you're like,
or seventy percent, and so then you're like, well, this
guy's fifty five. What are we really losing here?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
He didn't attempt to field goal. The rest of the
regular season was eight of eleven on extra points, including missing.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
One in each of the final three short extra points.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
To say so, they never they never kick a field
goal until it mattered.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Until lining up for the potential game winner to keep
your season going.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
There, let's let's do it. And it was a very
short one thirty four yards, So that's from the twenty four.
So there at the seventeen, I guess you wouldn't go
for it.
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from the chief season? Now that's over, what's the lesson
to be learned?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Well? I did it last week. I'll do it again.
Sam McDowell writes very intriguing, well researched columns, one after
the other. There's another one today about how much the
how horrible the Chiefs were in the last three games
of the year and now. The lesson of the column
basically is that the Chiefs have relied far too much
on Patrick Mahomes and I think it finally came home
(32:48):
to roost this year. I think they figured out or
we're hit in the face with the fact that just
having Patrick Mahomes, who obviously carried them to the Super
Bowl last year when they really didn't, you know, when
they won one freakish game after the other, is nobody's
that good. And they've i think believed it's just sort
(33:11):
of well, you know, by evidence, you know, no matter what,
how you know, mediocre. It seemed like some of the
other aspects of their team were no matter how many
injuries in the offensive line they got, somehow Pat was
going to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
So what what what? What should they have done? Like,
I grant you that, I'm fine with the lesson is
Pat can't do it all by himself. But it's the
adding in like that was the plan that was constructed
by the Chiefs was for just Pat to do it all.
I think that's an unfair characteristic.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I think they're overestimating some of their talent because okay, so.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
That done everything to do with well, pattill just take
care of it. That has to do with they made
mistakes on.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I think I think they've over evaluated some of their
own players. It's become kind of obvious. And then in
doing that, they haven't been maybe as aggressive. I mean
I think they had. They thought they had a like
powerhouse receiving corps. This year, clearly they didn't. Yeah, so
that's just a misjudgment. Now you can't help injuries. They
(34:11):
also have for years have decided they could paper together
one of the tackles. Year after year after year after
year they did that and it has kind of worked.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Paper together well.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I mean, they bring in a veteran on a one
year you know, pay some money guy came in. They
didn't really like him that much because they'd eventually cut
ties with him, and you know, didn't try to. I know,
it's hard to draft the tackle later. I mean, all
these things are fact, there's no question about that. But
I think in the end, judging this year and how
poorly they played and how bad they looked when Mahomes
(34:48):
wasn't there, I mean the status they're dreadful, I mean,
like and that they refused to embrace certain aspects of
play calling, like play action passes. The Rams head nineteen
touchdowns on play action this year the Chiefs had won. Yeah,
I mean there are things that they just maybe it
is going to take this they don't have to like
(35:09):
tear it down, and you know it's you know, when
you've got Patrick Mahomes. I heard you yesterday. It's foolish
to say we're going to go through a couple of
year rebuild here. No, you can't waste two years of
prime Patrick Mahomes unless you knew that, Oh, he ain't
coming back till November next year. You know, he's out,
he's who's the Celtics, he's statum, he's not playing this
(35:31):
year this year, so we really can't. Let's not plan
on this year. So you can't do that. But I
think maybe the evidence right in front of them will say,
you know what we thought. Forget the other stuff. You know,
we thought Rashie Rice is really a number one?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Is he?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Somehow? We think? You know, we keep bringing back Hollywood Brown,
we keep bringing back the band of old wide receivers.
Whenever there's somebody to be signed, who is it, Oh, buddy,
old friend, alert, here comes MVS or here comes some
one of the other guys. Juju, come on back, buddy.
(36:11):
Maybe some of those things need to be readjusted. We
all know that Mahomes is great, but I also will
say that from peak Mahomes when they were great when
their offense was at the very best. It's leveled out some.
He still I think most people would still want him
if they had to choose. But the difference between him
and the field now, I don't think this is great.
(36:33):
I don't think you make it.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I think the difference is the same. I think the
field has done a better job of putting more schematically
and talent wise around their guy. And I think the
Chiefs need to evolve this offseason.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I agree they have to evolve. There has to be
some real self scouting. And I think they also they
need a strong draft. They've got a better chance.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Well, you can do it. You earned the number nine pick.
You can't wasted. You got nine, you got forty. Right, Yeah,
it's clear that they're going to have to draft well.
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just bad Florida bad.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Uh Florida game. I think it's great because I think
that they didn't really play. They didn't show me that
they were better, but they won, so that might inject
some confidence in a feel good factor to which can
be really important. But you know, they they banked one
in against Florida to beat them, and but Florida hasn't
been in any great shakes, and Kentucky decided they wanted
(39:37):
to lose apparently in the last couple of minutes, they
just kicked the what do you want to do, We'll lose,
We'll lose. We'll turn it over on every possession and
see see if that gets it done. Now, like I said,
I think Missouri has some talent, but I didn't come
away from, for instance, the Kansas win or the Missouri
win the other day, feeling that much better about either team.
(39:59):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
The fact the fact that the two wins came after
some an immediate influx of two players, one of which
that's played fantastic, makes me think it's much more legit.
They didn't just start winning, you know, Jayden Stone came
in and he scored twenty points and then seven boards
against Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
They didn't. But I have two guys who can score. Now,
I think as a team they didn't. I wasn't swelled
up with you know, like, hey, I think they've and
I did it just win team though? Do they know?
That's what they don't? That's that's what that's what we
were looking at.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
After they get wrecked by forty three by Illinois, You're like,
this is thirty points. They've reverted right back to the
team that like, you know, we may be at oh
and eight, are they going to win a game? People
might not three.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Or four games, but you know, now I think eight.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
So will I will grant you. There's probably a little
bit of an overreaction because of how bad they looked
against Illinois. They got house by Kansas in the second
half by twenty. I mean they also those two teams
by sixty three points. Their best win is against like
one oh five Minnesota, right, so there was nothing to like,
and but now they put to together. So I'm sure
there is a little bit of an overreaction to the
fact because it's just so surprising how they've played. But
(41:06):
I don't think you can minimize. Oh, Kentucky was five
and the Ken Palm and Florida was fifteen.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
It was on the road. I'm not you know, I'm
not tossing them away because they are wins. They're good wins.
They might theoretically you play better, they might help you
make the tournament. You eight and ten in the I don't,
well not, I don't you don't think so.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I don't think so no, because they have no an
con record all I think they I think they need
ten and eight.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Well, then they're not getting it. Oh okay, okay, that's
what I'll say. If they need ten and eight, I
don't think that's happening, But prove Curtis, prove me wrong. Tigers.
Now Kansas said it was every bit is important. They
would have been owing to they would have been in trouble.
This league is a wagon.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, you know, Michael Swain said if the Jayhawks lose
tonight to TCU, smashed the panic button. That's what he said.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
And they really did lose. I mean, you don't get
gifted three point three point foul at the buzzer. Although
I will say that making three to tie is one
of the toughest things to do in sports, and I
think it's one of the most admirable accomplishments. When you
walk up there with the game on the line and
you've got to make all three, I don't even care
if you're how good a free throw shooter you are.
(42:23):
That's something. So that was that was impressive.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I will say that I think the SEC might be
touch over rated this year.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
Well, coming back Florida and Kentucky are what they appear
to be, then that right there is going to make
them worse.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, I think I think Missouri. I think they can
do ten and eight. The way they played the last
couple weeks, we'll.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Find see go get them and make it more interesting,
that's for sure.
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