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we want to talk to some mazoo with you. But okay,
but did you hear any of JJ?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I heard about half? Okay, yeah, okay, maybe more. Well,
I don't know how much was on before I started listening.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Who is more deserving of their award Matt Corterrero as
the Manager of the Year or JJ bccole as the
Executive of the Year.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
JJ Piccolo Really okay, tell me why? Well, I just
say body of work. I mean, I guess we're thinking
about you know, he didn't win last year, but he'd
made so many good moves last year. His moves this
year weren't necessarily fantastic in the offseason, I don't think,
because I think he could have done a little more
for the offense. But then when he's.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Which I would say, who he was proactive? What could
have even done?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't know. But before Mike Stremski.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well trade trade for you know you had an answer,
I was going to bomb you. I like, you can't
say he should have done something and have nothing that
he should have done.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
He could have got that, he could have, you know,
come up with a platoon. But anyway, when something when
they're at the break, he was proactive and those moves
have worked. And overall, as you mentioned, he was patient
with his hitting instructor and the hitting came around.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
But I think it's a close call because Matt Cortrero
has had to a team has had to deal with
more injury this year. Last year they were very lucky
with that, and this year they have been I wouldn't
really say they've been unlucky because I think this has
just been more normal, But certainly they've had their share
of injuries. They have so and he he also dealt
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with an offense that was just paralyzed and he didn't
overreact himself or apparently. I don't think he went to
JJ and said you got to get rid of this guy.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Come out.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Either that or he did and JJ said no. But
so I think it's pretty close, But I guess I
would lean slightly to JJ.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
That's interesting. I think the one thing I would say is,
I don't know how last year when they came from
one hundred and six losses to being in the playoffs,
followed up by this year where they did have and
I'm with you, unlucky. I think they maybe have had.
I think losing Buobach and Reagan's.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Maybe a little bit more than normal. But most pitching
staffs will absorb that kind of that's right, they do.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Friends.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
There were two All Star two starting pitchers in the
All Star Game in the last two years, and neither
one of them has been on the roster in the
last month.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
The yeah, and since the Dodgers and the Astros, not
that they can't deal with it, they both have had
their entire rotations on the disabled list at times this year.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So I think it's a great point that you make
that Royals fancy to get used to that, Like last
year was the anomaly. You don't just keep everybody healthy
all year. But through all that and then through a
team that just inexplicably, inexplicably didn't hit at all, and
then now has suddenly turned the corner to where they
walk and homer something. This franchise is never done and
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maybe it's going to end, but they're looking like real
modern professional hitters. And the fact that they stayed the
course through a firestorm of which I was part of like,
how can you keep going with Alex Xumboldt. They're going
backwards as hitters and you hear JJ Listen, we know
our people, we believe in them. He was never even
considering it, and that may be a fault. That may
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be a fault we look at in the future when
it does come a time when like the voice has
just grown stale and you just need a change, we
may say, like that loyalty is now a fault, but
it paid dividends this year through everything that they've been through.
I don't know how the two of them can be
up for those awards twice and neither one of them
win it at all. Like I think it's it's.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Just what's got to be one of them?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, it's just like it's like when the Royals won
the World Series. We're in the World Series in fourteen
and fifteen. It was just a fluke. Everybody just credited
as a fluke because no one had written that this
team's on the come. So nobody wanted to believe it
because they'd have to be like, well, I totally you know,
I picked them to lose one hundred games. I'm an idiot.
Well I got them losing. I got them losing eighty
eight this year, and then they're back in the World
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Series and winning it. And I think they just root
for their predictions and nobody wants to give them any credit.
Part of that will be that if they keep doing
this for five or six or seven years, they'll win
it and we'll be like, you know, the year they
should have won it. Yeah, years one and two.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
It's like gold gloves and All Star Games. Sometimes all
Star appearances, you get them.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Up later than you should in preseason top twenty five rankings.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know, is somewhat of a career Achievement award as well,
that goes into it.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I'm trying to look through tick through the teams. In
my mind, I don't think there's another natural candidate. You know,
there's not a team that came from nowhere to be
good in the American League. Maybe the Red Sox, maybe
Alex Cora, because I don't think the expectations for the
Red Sox were to be fourteen games over five hundred
and maybe division champs, so he might be there, But
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I don't see another managerial candidate that seems super super strong.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Blue Jays they've they've won more dins down than they
were before.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
But but I think people thought they were going to
be good. Yeah, I agree, And they have a big
payroll and they have a good, good roster. I think
they felt like the team was an underachieving team a
year ago. Yeah, so I think this is a good
year for him, and I think he's definitely got a
shot now they It certainly would help if they make
the playoffs, I think. But yeah, I think I think
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either one of them would be a deserving winner. And
as I said, I don't think in either case we're
talking about some kind of sexy pick or you know,
if you wanted to be an outsider.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Why aren't they a sexy pick?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I mean they've no, there's not no other sex.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
So I think it's a good good timing for them.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Also, I think it's interesting though, like why what's not
to like about their candidacy they've they've you know, because
I do think the GM Award is kind of like
a rolling three or four year award. I don't know
how like one year, you know, unless you last year
would have been the year to give it to JJ
for just one year, but they didn't give it to
him last year. Okay, so it's not just a one year.
Well now he's done it two years and now he's
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doing that. That's how you do the GMS, Like you
can't just measure a GM's work off one Okay, fine,
well now he's got two years of it and he's
backing up what he did last year.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So I think maybe you're right. I agree with that totally.
So maybe Alex Korra is the competition and I think
I should know it, But I don't. What's the a's GM.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Uh, I don't know. I mean, being as kind of Steven,
I mean, he was always kind of the guy, even as.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
He stepped away.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I don't as president, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
The actual gentleman. I'm not sure David Forced listening. Yeah,
but they've made a you know, they're they're they've won
twenty one of thirty one in case you haven't checked,
and you know that's the team the Worlds played last
and they made a major step forward. They got a
great young core of players that they came oloped and
they can really hit and they're starting to get a
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little bit of pitching. So and they're dealing with playing
in a minor league ballpark, and all the vaguees of
that had a basically their best pitcher kind of quit
on them.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So, but they're not going to make the playoffs. And
if you give it to the A's this year, I'll say,
how did you not?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
I was?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I was growth give it to Macuatro and I was
groping for another candidate.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
I think he is.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I think each one of them is in a good position.
And I don't think the competition is that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You follow baseball as close as anybody I know. Have
you ever seen an offense just change over an All
Star break the way this one did?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
No, No, And in the nature of what they're doing now,
they they still have, you know, and this is what
you're supposed to do. They still generally have done their
best pounding against the lesser teams.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, but the problem against bad.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Pitchers and other tests will be this weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, but against bad pitcher. Sam McDowell was running up
to that, That's part of that. That was their problem.
They're coming against guys with six ras and.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Do nothing like Monday.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, frankly right.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
And actually all three games against the White Sox they
really didn't jump on the starter. So Uh, but yeah,
I think I think the people they brought over brought
a good mentality and more veteran mentality. I think failure
creates a look in the mirror type of situation for
or any professional athlete. I think, And and maybe it
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was just a message that was being ignored a little
bit by the players, But it was the message. And
maybe that's why JJ Piccolo was, you know, so adamant
about the fact that somewhat was the right guy because
he felt like his approach is the right one and
the players just weren't acting on it. So, yeah, I
think they're both great candidates.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That being said, they're not going to get there to.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
The playoffs, you mean, yeah, I think it's a stretch. Still.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I went through the games today and it's like, you know,
the teams are chaser playing like the Pirates and.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
The they got thirty left, right, they are eight. Okay,
so they got to go at least seventeen and eleven
at least. That's that's quite good, you know, probably a
little better than that. You know, I would expect, like
I said, I keep expecting the you know, the Red
Sox and the Yankees have kind of separated themselves out
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a little bit. Catching them is going to be very difficult,
and I expect the Mariners to play better, So yes,
I do think it's still a long shot, but they're
in it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And by the way, the seventeen gets the Royals to
eighty six. To get to eighty six, the Mariners would
simply need to go fourteen and yeah, fourteen, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
And the Roles that have played six zero seven ball
would they have not done in any twenty eight game
stretch this season, right even when they won sixteen of eighteen, because.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They immediately turned around and lost the past games right then. Yeah,
So it will be difficult and it would be more
of an upset than expected, especially because of who they're chasing.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Mariners remaining schedule at the Guardians for three starting tonight,
at Tampa for three, at the Braves for three, home
for the Cardinals for three, home for the Angels for four,
at the Royals for three obviously Giant then at the
Astros for three, Rockies at home for three, Dodgers at
home for three.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
So right now in the Royal seven nine game homestand
they have a nine game road trip, so we should
find out quite a bit at the end of these
with Guardians, and right, sound silly to say because we
only have twenty eight games left anyway, but after these
nine games, if they go out and if the Marions
go out and have a six and three road trip,
and they're probably in pretty good shape because they got
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a bunch of home games the rest of the year.
So yeah, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough.
The Roads are gonna have to play excellent, Paul, and
it's going to start with this homestand for sure, and
you know, the Tigers just are They've been a bad
matchup for the Royals and this is a tremendously important series.
You know, the Tigers take to come in here and
take two out of three. The Roads are in trouble,
and they're in trouble, trouble, and they have to get scalding hot.
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So but the Guardians will be a desperate team this
weekend against the Mariners. They probably see it as their
sort of Alamo type of situation. They're just barely at
five hundred. They have to win. They basically have probably
a thinking to themselves, we have to sweep the Mariners
this weekend.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, well I would help. I'd be okay with that. Yes,
they also they're going into a series with some spotty
issues with the starting pitching seth Lego goes tonight and
he needs to kind of have a bounce back. They've got, Yeah,
they've got.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I would say she's in a bonafied slump.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Michael Waka they mentioned today and that the Royal's announced
today is on the paternity leave. You have to be
the maximum of three days, so there's no minimum time
you can stay.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
They brought up Stephen Kolek from Omaha. He was the
other pitcher in there Freddy fer mean deal along with
Ryan Bergert. And there is a report from Jalen Thompson
to The Star that Colak's gonna go tomorrow. Then Waka
is still.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Which, by the way, for Sunday, Colic is kind of
like a bullpen day, Yeah, because he has not gone deep.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
No, you know, five starts in Omaha, he's gone six
things twice the next two he was knocked out before
the end of the third, and Wednesday he pitched one inning.
I wonder if that was in anticipation of him going
this weekend. So they just get him.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Florid manager and staff that has ties to Tampa. The
Royals don't really seem to be in love with the opener.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Agreed, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
They they seem to rather bring up a starter from
the minor leagues than run an opener. I'm not sure
I quite get that, but.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I wonder if they just I think there's still a
work in progress for for what they're looking for, Like
like Bailey Falter would have been the guy that put
an opener in front of you know, mow Doown. You know,
like somebody's heavy, right, you know, run try you know,
I know you want Triber at the back. And part
of it is I don't think they have the depth
of bullpen, right like if you run Sreber out there
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through the top of the order with sobriety, I've had some.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
You could do that.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
They've had some soft underbelly.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's another reason. It's another reason why I come back
to thinking that, you know, J. J. R. Macuto for
Manager of the Year, because I you know, they've they've
always kind of been dealing with half the bullpen. You
don't want to pitch Sam Long no, you know, and
he's just been bad and he threw him into the
eighth inning the other night because like he's on the roster.
He's gonna have to pitch. He got to he got
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ursag to handle the seventh the tough part, I think,
or no, no, is it just I'm confusing my games,
But I think I know it was like, look, we scored,
but we didn't take the lead. So I'm leaving the
big dogs in the pen long as gonna have to
get this done. And he did, and then they got
three in the night. He's like, Okay, now here comes Estevez. Yeah.
I think his managing has been great. They'll say that again,
but yeah, I'm with you. I we haven't seen some
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of the kind of trickery, right.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I think he's he seems to be you know, he's
got the Cleveland and Tampa roots, but he seems to
be a bit more of a traditionalist than we might think.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Or we're gonna fight. We're gonna see him doing it later,
right when he has more weapons.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Maybe that's the case, right, Yeah, I mean the bullpen
has been good ish this year, but it hasn't been
like good Yeah, we can roll six guys out there
and we'll have ourselves. So a great day at the office.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
One more thing on the Royals, and then we'll take
a break and I want to get into the zoo.
That is, when was the last time the Royals had
some guy had a pitcher that was young, way young
for the level and kicking ass.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I have, I can't nothing jumps out to me.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Rank Yeah, I think that is it. And I bring
that up because Shields, I mean, it's weird now because
they don't have any minor league teams anymore. So your
high school kid's got to go right to low A
and before they would have gone to rookie ball and
that kind of stuff. So Shields even at eighteen, is
kind of and maybe has he turned nineteen. I'm not sure,
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but he's kind of age appropriate, but he's still still
on the younger side and his numbers are fantastic. And
then Kendrick Churio as a child and his numbers, I know,
is he topped over four because he got cuffed around
a little bit this last time. But the strikeout to
walk the control with stuff. We have not seen this
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since Zach Cranky. That's the really exciting part is like, Okay, yeah,
they've been somewhat of a you know, a really good
horse trader and been able to see like well, that
guy in this role will be better, and that guy
with that ability, I'll add this pitch, he'll be better.
But you're going to have to bring talent through the system.
And Carter Jensen and Jack agli Own are coming, right,
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and but then on down there's pitching coming. Real.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
How many times when you just watch baseball in general,
do you see that the every guy who comes out
of the other team's bullpen throws ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, well, the average fastball now of a right hand
or in Major League Baseball, I think just top ninety
five miles per hour for the first time.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Ever, right, and that would include starters who aren't you know,
ramping it up. So that means that the bullpen guys
are generally throughout ninety seven ninety eight to one hundred
well more.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
They're all the flamethrowers these days. Yeah, for sure, let's
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Speaker 5 (20:20):
The Nick and Jakes end of the hour answer what
team won the first college football game ever played at
Arrowhead Stadium? Ooh, you got a year, nineteen seventy two,
October fourteenth.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I'm gonna try like Pitt State.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Or Northwest Missouri State.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Nope, not a local team. Grambling knocked off Mississippi Valley
State twenty seven one.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Was there a bold kind? They have had some kind of.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Just there mid October the game winning touchdown scored by
freshman and future Pro Bowl whiteout Sammy White.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
So we don't know why they played.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
That game, don't We don't what was the date? October fourteenth,
nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I was trying to think of it as like those
grant like buck you can dave, but they had a
lot of Grambling players.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
This is the article they actually found, an article from
the paper the next day before A sparse crowd of
ninety three hundred at Arrowhead Stadium.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Wow, that would be an empty.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
There were some whiz game high school football games that
drew more than nine thousand.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Wow, that is that defined sparse for sure?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
So are we supposed to from last night's Arrowhead tilt?
Or we supposed to be disappointed in Nebraska? Or say ooh,
Cincinnati looked pretty salty.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
It was five and a half.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
It was five and a half, but in the win
total on Cincinnati five and a half, it might be
it was five and a half or six and a half.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
So I'd tell you, I don't know what that quarterback wash.
Why are you throwing a fifty to fifty ball when
you're in field goal range down? You can't throw that
on first down? On first down, I mean, let me
just lob one up, just with it.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Did you see this guy on the broadcast?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yes, that was so funny. They showed him again later.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Showed him again when they got up by double digits.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah, you better read this here.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Let me let me make it a little bit bigger
for could you.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, they had.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
A Nebraska fan. They showed a couple of times on
the game if people didn't see the Nebraska last night,
and down at the bottom it says Nebraska football. Above
it it says we almost always almost win. That's so good.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I mean, like I was thinking that the whole fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Of course, I'm like, well, this is in the bag
for the Bearcats. I mean, maybe that's what they needed.
They the Nebraska needed to just win ugly get one
and now they won't play with such a tight stinger.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Maybe I don't know, or they're just not that just
not that good, right, which.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Is so sad because that fan base, I mean just
backs that program was business. The place was.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Full, I know, I mean that was a home game
plus for them, and that, to me, it was I
was thinking it was more disappointing for Nebraska than it
was good for Cincinnati. But I thought Cincinnati looked like,
you know, if they had good quarterback play, I would
have said, whoa, you got to be worried about them.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
To tell me, at what point does Dylan Royola's Patrick
Mahomes thing become just the slightest bit weird.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
We passed that.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
There was a shot of him walking down the and
he's like always the hair, he's got the hands, the walk,
he's got the clothes he wears fifteen. It was just like,
come on, dude, this is costable.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I will say that I've through the years of watching sports,
I've often been able to say, oh, yeah, that guy
right there, he was a fan of so and so,
Like Jeremy Pana does everything just like a rut, you know,
for instance, But this is seeing a guy where the
number you can tell.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Okay, then then he's weird, Like that does not make
this normal. That makes Jeremy Pania also weird.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Well, I think it's you know, batting stance and stuff,
which he suggested. But I mean just players kind of
do that sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Player as a kid, right, and then you grow up
like you know, I mean, he can do whatever he
wants to do. But the you know, the hand gesture.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
The hand gesture, the pre game celebration, the hype.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The exact same thing, Like you can wear the number
like this, Oh, Patrick Mahomes my favorite players a kid,
so I wear fifteen.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Okay, Well, don't just do I agree? I agreation literally everything. Yeah,
he's taking it to a ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Because your friend looks like Brittany. Then lock him up, man,
don't you. I mean, Mahomes teammates have to be like
Dudey kept saying he has a relationship with Mahomes, Like
what is the relationship?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
He's in the texts and he is left on it.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He's got to stay at least three hundred yards away
from him, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yes, if your names are on both your names are
on a I mean I'm contective order.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I'm all about. Hey, Mahomes a great guy to emulate, right,
he doesn't get in trouble when things are crappy around him.
He does a masterful job of he is a great
guy to emulate. But somebody's got to be like, dude,
you just like this is just going to bring grief.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Well, there is a demol difference between emulate and imitate,
so he probably should lean more to the emulate.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Although he hasn't gotten up to date with the hairstyle.
Though he didn't, he doesn't. He still wears the twenty
twenty four Mahomes well.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
By the way, his old His old Mahomes dude does
not work as well. No, by the way, because he
doesn't other curls. Yeah right, it's kind of like, you know,
now he goes and gets a perm that's it. I'm out.
I'm out.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Sounds like you're a idiot.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I am already out, you know. I listen. I I
wish no ill will towards anybody, right, Like he's not
hurting anyone, so what's the big deal. But I just
I feel for the kid because somebody in his close group,
she'd be like, dude, you gotta knock some of this off,
like you're just like, for one thing, if listen, I've
talked to personnel guys like, hey, how about this guy.
(26:23):
It's kind of an odd dude man this that whatever,
you know, like they see that. I'm not saying you
have to conform and just be a follower, but there
there are personnel guys being like, I mean, can he
if we say, hey, we want you to do it
this way, like, you can't because the other thing is
like he did complete one throw that was like it
was it was I was like, that's kind of ma
Homesy on a diet level, but like you can't.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
The other part you're you're what you're doing is creating
bad habits. Hey no, creating a comparison with Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
And to come up with wait sure matter.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
What yeah true, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I just I, oh, you drafted mahomes light.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
They they.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
She starts doing like the mahomes voice. You'll be like.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
They look at everything and I and I just I mean,
like you are odd. I mean like J J Drew.
Jd Drew was the number one player take and and
you know, scouts were like kind of a jackass and
just kind of you know, he's aloof and he never
ended up being a superstar like that played somewhat into it,
(27:31):
you know, I don't know, we'll see. I want to
talk about Missouri. What do you what do you think
of the Tigers after they beat Kark? I love when
I see c.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Aoka, the same thing Markus, Oh Cark.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I would have felt better if the game was like
fifty one to nothing or something.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Why just because so more points was bad?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, because of what it made me think is this
wasn't even a real game. I mean, so I just,
you know, come on, sixty six points and it was
like it was only sixty one or sixty one. But
I mean they had him like wou'd they go?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
They missed this extra point like five times in a
row or something. The score was like you know, cause
I'll be honest, they get up with a certain amount.
I'm like, oh, it's sixty nothing, it's twelve to nothing,
it's eighteen to nothing. It was just so much, so
fast that it made me think that the opposition was
just a joke. So but still, what are you supposed
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to do? They look great? They got it, you know,
they got a couple of significant injuries. Quarterback looked good though,
and he was the one that started. I was saying
this to Curtis during the break. I mean, it worked.
Whether it was just a coin toss or whatever, it
looks better now that the quarterback you are going to
roll with was the one you started.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
So I was impressed. I mean, what are you gonna
not be? They looked fin, they looked fine. But when
it was so easy, I was like, Eh.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well I'm finding them. You say I can't read anything
into this, and to which I would say, they dominated
a team they were supposed to dominate. There's something to that.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Absolutely, I'm not going to downgrade him. I'm not gonna
think less of them or anything like that. It's just
that I didn't get any real boost out of it,
or say, well the Tigers look at them, Heidi ho,
I just you know, they just clabbered a terrible like
Kansas tonight. They're a forty seven point favorite. I mean,
what are we going to learn?
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Uh, whether they all't missed one kick, they didn't miss
any kicks last night? Missouri. They oh, they went for
two on the first one and they got the rest
of them. Oh. Even with a second backup kicker.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I must have just you know, when I was dvring,
I must have just stopped every time before they kicked
eight touchdowns twelve eighteen. I just must dis missed the
extra plot.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
They went for two on the first one and then
kicked two field right.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, I do think I thought it was nice to
see Primula and he's he's dangerous. Yeah, you know, I
don't know what he's gonna look like. I know nothing
about how he can throw his wide receiver on the
deep ball was high school wide open, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
He was high school wide open. Again, he got underthrown. Yeah,
but he got the ball with one yard line.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You know, what's he gonna do when he has to
throw the needle on a slant against South Carolina? I
don't know. You know, is he is when when they
are real big SEC defenders out there is nobody gonna
look open to him, and he's gonna tuck the ball
and run all the time. I don't know. Also, but
when it's open he can he'll throw it there and
and when there's a gap he can scoot.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Maybe maybe he'll be better this year, But I mean,
he didn't beat out Drew Allier, who I'm no fan of.
Now we'll see, maybe he'll be better than this year.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Oh, I didn't think.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I didn't think he was very good last year?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Who was? Who was the wasn't it the fat toed
at Ohio State that beat out Joe Burrow on his
way to LSU.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
But he could be just on the coach. I yes,
but he didn't beat him out. Yeah, and I'm not.
I didn't think that the starter was any great shakes.
I think I thought he cost him the Bowl game.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Basically, I'm with you, but I will already say that
I did. I did see enough to say this isn't whatever.
Bryant's first name was Kelly Bryant. This isn't Kelly Bryant. No, No.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I thought he looked good, you know, and he's better
than that. And he ran and he's a bona fide runner.
Last year, I mean he ran second.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
For him, just a run, right, So yeah, I'm he
passed the wide receiver group.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I think they don't have the burden, but they or
THEOIESE probably, but they got some pretty good ones in there.
They just I think they've seen.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
People let that go.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Burden.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
He wasn't that good. He was like the most overhyped
underperforming soul player ever.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
No, that would be Doriel Greenbacker.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
That's true. There you go, that's me.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
He had a monster season that second year, DJ, Yes,
what was his second season? He had like ten or
twelve touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
And how many yards and catches. I mean, I'm happy
to be unless you're much more of the Encyclopediamazoo than.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I'm not saying Burden was a bad player, but I
mean I think he was maybe each year the second
best receiver on the team.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Give me, give me the DGB numbers.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Just that he was so hyped coming in that everybody right, well,
I think maybe they have the Burden.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Well, what I'm going to offer is that when there
was some question about his attitude and his one two
in the draft, so maybe there was an element of that,
you know, that this was just a way station to
get to the NFL. But I do appreciate that he
started at Miszoo and finished at Zoo. Yeah you know
now that also I appreciate that Mazoo clearly had enough
(32:45):
money to keep him there, right. I appreciate that because
you know, some big money programs listen, you'd be better
over here. I tend to be willing to put that
more back on Brady Cook, that there are a lot
of throws down the field that he just couldn't throw,
Like if we see Kiala Williams, like if Luther Burton
blows up, we're gonna go like, Yeah, Brady Cook was
a good college quarterback, but there were throws down the
(33:06):
field he just couldn't make.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I mean, and he just got waved by the Jets.
So by the Jets, right by the Jets.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Time, but he got signed back. Did he get way
from the practice squad? He was on the practice squad?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I just said, I would just scrolles today. Wait, maybe
it was was I was on the missoo page. It
could have been a couple of days ago. Okay, so
maybe he did get back in the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I thought I thought he was on that the list
because I would scroll through when they put that out
as to all the local guys. But have you guess
it was DGB What do we got?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Yeah? His first year he only played two years. Their
first year wasn't much. They weren't very good. That was
their first year in the SEC twenty eight for three
ninety five with five touchdowns. Second year fifty nine for
eight eighty three twelve touchdowns, So it was better. But
the true game where in between somewhere in between, uh, Luther.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
That Driel Green. But the other thing is not only
was were they of Luther Burden was the number one
wide out, Doyle Green Beckham was the number one player right,
and and also Luther Burton's like six foot two hundred, right,
Doyle Green Beckham was like six five to twenty. I mean,
(34:16):
you're like, this is Megatron coming in here.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Freshman year Burden was forty five for three seventy five
and six. Okay, second sophomore year eighty six for twelve
hundred and nine.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Better than That's nothing wrong DGB.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Yeah, Junior year sixty one for six seventy six and six.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
How many games in the junior twelve year put them all?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, I just think all we ever, you know, it
was just so much hype about him. It was just like,
let's not because who was the guy who was his
second year or one of the years, who was the
guy was better than him?
Speaker 5 (34:48):
The Oise?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, the Oise is on a practice squad.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
With and we'd never hear about the Oise and he
was the one making the big.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Plays now like Danario Alexander Is. Last year was one
thirteen for seventeen eighty one and fourteen. Yeah, that's that's
a year.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, that's what you expect, maybe not for Ack to
that point. And by the way, he couldn't play in.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
The league because he couldn't need, couldn't help. It just
wasn't as athletic as you need to be at that level.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
But yeah, so I will give you, yeah, I'll lean
a little bit more. I forgot that last year was
that low, right, I thought it was more like nine
hundred and nine or something.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Anyway, So I it was just an aside because I
think that they might have somebody who can produce at
that level on the team.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Think the freshman is going to be really good.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I think the question is still out though. I mean
proby Perbulah can run, but the question still out. I mean,
he threw against this team, can he throw against the
SEC teams?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
And one more unheralded it. I actually think Blake Craig's
injury the kicker is more significant than Sam Horn, the
backup quarterback. It's one thing, but he's a weapon and
Elidrik would said today he's going to miss some significant
He got hurt trying to make a tackle on a
kickoff that the freshman kicker is up next. That's I
think could be a big weapon when you're talking about
close games.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Agreed, But Horn supposedly was neck and neck, so he
could have been the starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
I'm I'm not sure I buy that.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
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what do you think of the Kumu matchup now?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I think MU. You know, I don't know what the
what do you think the line's going? I think m
U's problem.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Well, the preseason line was MU by six and a half.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Well that's what I was thinking. I think six. How
you strikes me right now is maybe about a touchdown
better than Kansas. I don't think, Like I said, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna find out anything more about Kansas.
I thought they looked. I thought they were very good
against Fresno. I mean, Freso was at least a representative
Division I program, and they were good. But I think
Missou's a little bit better. But uh, and it's you know,
(38:02):
it's their home game. But I can't imagine it's not
going to be a competitive game. I think what we're
what it is, it's the game where we're going to
find out about these teams a little bit.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Current line seven and a half.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah, that's that's about right for me. I might with
the half. I might, you know, if that was for
if forced to bet, I might go with the Jayhawks.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I'm going to force you to bet.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Then I would bet on the Jayhawks.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I'd say late seven and a half.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
He said, yeah, I mean, but I think it's you know,
it's about it's about a one touchdown game. But since
I think it's about a one touchdown game and I
got the half, I would probably pick the Jayhawks. They
looked good, they will have played a more significant football game.
But it's on the road, so I can't do anything
except favor the Tigers. And and like I said, I
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think we're just going to learn a lot. Okay, maybe
this game we'll see that it's an issue that Prabula
can't throw, or we'll find out that Kansas defense is
and what we think it should be.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
The Missouri's defense has now answer forels right or Daniels
gets hurt again. You know, So there's there's a lot
of variables in that game. It's just it's just an
interesting game going in. It's almost like an opener. Really,
we have more evidence about Kansas going into the game,
but not much. You know, they played a home game
(39:27):
against a middling you know, Division one team.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
When we're done, it is a Mountain West team as
opposed to.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Kark and oh yeah, it's it's better opposition we really like.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
But it is a team that's first year coach. You know.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Yeah, right, I think we just know a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
About seventy percent of what we'll know after that game
will be from that game.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Yeah, I think maybe even higher at a minimum, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Do you like the way the Jayhawks looked?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I did. I thought they looked very good. They you know,
the game was tied early, then they took command of
the game and they took the They played two backup
quarterbacks and neither one of them threw. That's that's easing
off the gas in a game, which by the way, I.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Would never do, like I'll put the backups in, but
we're running the offense. I really to get reps for
these guys.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
And they weren't ahead by a million, They hadn't embarrassed
the other.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I don't care if you're up eighty.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
But even if that was the case, you know right,
I agree with you. I would just run the Have.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
You ever seen like you know America? The American male,
the epitome of tough guy who then whinds when he
loses by too much in a football game all the time?
Make up your mind, jackasses, are you tough or not?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
You can what it is. There wasn't even that reason.
It was thirty four to seven. You could have scored
a couple more times, and you know not. You know
they've been accused in any way of rubbing the opposition's
facing the dirt. So I think it's an It's it's
a real interesting let's put it this way. It would
be a bad loss for Missouri.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
I'm petrified just because of what what that'll mean, be.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
An embarrassing loss for Curtis Sywell.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
You will be right, not a man, you know, you
have a team of your significant favorite on your home field,
big rivalry, no reason not to show everything you got,
and if you lose that, there's a lot of losable
games in your schedule. Oh yes, what it means.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Oh whoa, that's what.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
It would mean for sure.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
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Speaker 4 (41:28):
I don't think that was particularly unleashed, but take it
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