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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Danny Clinkscale, reasonably irreverent podcast, insightful and
witty commentary, probing interviews and detours from the beaten Path.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Thirsty Thursdays. Since and nonsense, it's a snow
day Thursday Thursdays. We actually adjusted our schedule. So if
you hear anything that's say like, well when do they
do that, Well we did it Monday when it snowed.
And I am ready for some beer because I did
seventy five minutes of snowshoveling before I came here. Joe
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has promised a robust fact check, which he had extra
time to work at because I'm a dumb ass, and
I drove over here to our great location at arrived
outdoors and realize I've got my little satchel which is
actually designed to be a packing bag, but now I
keep my microphones and my old phone which I use
as a power pack for the thing, and everything's in there.
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So I'm like, okay, well, you know you need a
recording device to come. So that wasn't good, but everything
else is generally good. And when you shovel snow, and
my dad had many stupid sayings that I remember many
old time sayings that are actually a motivation for some
of the things we do on this podcast, and I
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don't like many of them at all, but one of
them I do like. Is a job worth doing? Is
a job worth doing well? And I always think of
my dad when I'm shoveling snow and I want to
put the little last touches on it, and I did
that today. So I'm ready to go. We are ready
to talk about things. I'm sure since we're at arrived outdoors,
Joe is going to continue today in his quixotic effort
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to beat me at Golden Tea. He may want to
tell you or not what happened last time. Anyway, we'll
hear from him because I've got him potted down for
technical reasons during the opening here. But anyway, we'll give
credit to the folks at Santa fe Lickers, who always
provide beers, but today, because it was a snow day
and we're adjusting Joe old times, he's in charge of
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the beers today, which we'll consume next, along with a
lot of sense and nonsense. And it's yours coming up next.
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Speaker 4 (04:57):
Danny, breaking the rules over here.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I opened this one up a little early. I
guess I was eager. And we've got something we haven't had.
We've got a brewery that we have had, but uh oh,
we're trying to harken back on a snowy day to
better times with a apropos, with a Goliath brewing summer
sou citrus ale. I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I am excited here, you know, Danny, I had a
little snowshoveling today too, but I had the help.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Of some power equipment. Oh yeah, you like you like
you I do.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's gonna go down smooth and easy.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
After all that top toppling Goliath. A refreshing citrus ale
brimming with sweet tropical notes that are perfect for warm
afternoons or cold ones. Aromas of bright citrus bring a
vibrant pop to this summertime. Ale. I like this and
it reminds me of summer. And there's a little bit
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of citrus in it, but it's not overwhelming, although I
would say that somebody might A.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
So, that's pretty stress citrusy than your normal just notes
of citrus.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Right, But I think we could just vacuum this beer
because it's a five point two.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
So.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And I shoveled snow for a long time and I
did the thing again, from snow shoveling to shower to
driving to returning home picking up the recording device. I've
had no liquid.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Well you had some extra driving involved as well.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yes. Anyway, we are here, we are rolling, we are recording,
and we are excited. And now I'm even more excited
to hear the fact show.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Oh yeah, you're excited about that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I am. We're in a different little room here at
Aoh yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
You know, the regular room is taken. There's a meeting
going on in there. I wondered when I went to
book the room, why wouldn't let me book that room?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh, you can book the room.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, and now I know why I couldn't book that
like this one.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
We're in a tsking a big whiteboard here. Andy Reid
could be in here with this. You should be in
here cleaning stuff up rough Jesus, Well, what are you
gonna give this beer?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Danny?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know what, I'm kind of give us a solid
seven point five? Wow. I mean I think it's maybe
slightly too citrusy, but maybe it's also because I'm thirsty
and I'm refreshed. Yeah, I really like this beer.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'm gonna just agree with you and go seven five.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
This is worth buying, Okay, right. I don't think we've
had a Toppling Goliath that we didn't like.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
No, No, we did have one one time that was
like an eleven or something and it was like it
was like a dinosaur with lasers flying out of its eyes.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Oh okay, here and it is Toppling Goliath Brewing Company, Decorah, Iowa.
I don't think we ever explored no to Cora, Iowa.
There's here, there's one our next guy. Yeah, because I've
I've been all around Iowa. I mean I I spent
a lot of time in Iowa because um Casey used
to play northern Iowa and Iowa state, and you know
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I would always drive those trips and uh so I
did a lot of Iowa driving. And what was the
other one? Iowa Cedar Falls. I think there's not a
lot in Iowa though, no, there's not, No, there's not.
But the people are nice in western Kansas, right, Yeah,
generally I think there's places that are a little more
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scenic than although no, there's I mean west. Well, actually
the most scenic parts of Kansas are Central Kansas, I
guess you would say.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
But okay, So last time our beers were this this
steezy edd H with hyper boost. I don't know if
you remember that.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I remember the hyper It was from Outer Range Brewing.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
We gave it a seven point five and an eight.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Right, and it got to the eight you oh yeah,
you were off, yes, off.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And it got an eight point three on the Beer Advocate,
so we're pretty close. Our other beer last time was
a toppling Alive Walkedfest, y'all, and you liked it? I did.
I gave that an eight. You gave it a seven
and a half, which is high.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Praise for my third night Toberfest. Yes, it's an eight
point seven on beer advocates.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
So yeah, you know, we were.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
A little below below them.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But Danny, it's time to check some facts. How about
that last time we talked about Shakespeare a little bit
and we just casually dropped that he was doing his
thing in the fifteenth or sixteenth century, and we just
kept moving and.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
We said, I think we noted that we may be wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
WILLIAMS. Shakespeare was born in fifteen sixty four.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh yeah, died in sixteen.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Sixteen, ding ding ding, buddy, So he was writing his
stuff from fifteen eighty nine to sixteen thirteen. So I
think that we can take a w on that we went.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
How long did he That's not a long career and
that's eleven twenty four years. Yeah, I mean that's back then, right,
But some people that lived along, you know, like our
founding fathers, most of them lived. Have you been watching
that I have?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I think it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I think it's amazing because I studied and have studied
and have read a lot about the American Revolution, and
I am learning a lot and there was definitely stuff
in there that I didn't know I expected to do.
Lots of stuff I expected it to be.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Kind of a refresher course, and a lot of it is.
But I think that one of the coolest parts is
him covering the battles. We're talking about the ken Burns documentary,
by the way, on PBS, right, they cover the battles
with maps and like talk.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
About that, and I like that.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You know, there wasn't a lot of talk about battles
when I learned about the American Revolution.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It was more of just like a lot of the found.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Father stuff, the Federalist papers, like all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, I once upon a time, and I think I've
told the story about my car being filled with the
books and being eventually smashed to pieces and I went
to it went picking.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I know this one.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh okay, I think I told it. Anyway, I had
a car, and you know, it was that when I
was living at the same place that you lived at Lawrence.
I lived there earlier and I was basically broke and
I couldn't get a job and whatever, and my car,
my car was not running.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
What kind of car was this?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It was? It was like a I can't even remember.
It's like a It was a gift from friends of
my parents, just gave us a car that they had
run the car about running to the ground. It wasn't
much in the car, but it was fine we made
I made many trips across the country with it anyway,
So it was just sitting there dead in the parking lot.
And they said, yeah, you know you're gonna take We're
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gonna tow this car. And so they did. They towed
it to the to the wrecker and they called me
up and they said, hey, on Friday, we're gonna you know,
we're gonna smash this car. You're going to smithereens here
and make it scrap metal even though you owned it. Still, Yeah,
I mean, I just as there was worth it wasn't
worth it. There was nothing, it wasn't going to run.
I didn't have the money to fix it. Got it.
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And so anyway, they said, if you got anything in
the car you want to get, you got to come
out here and get it. So I go out there
on Thursday because I had this big trunk full of books, okay,
and they'd done it a day early. Anyway, I lost
several books that I really really liked, including this was
this massive history of the Civil War that I had,
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and it used to. It featured a lot of these
really cool like two page like two page if you
open up a book and it's two full pages of
maps that showed little there was in color, but they
would show the little army men, you know, and where
they went there would be arrows, just like in the
ken Burns thing. And it was really illustrative and I
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wish so much. Another one was about all the presidential elections,
and it was really like, there were fifty pages about
every presidential election. It had all liked to Thomas Nast
cartoons from the eighteen seventies, which are great. You know what,
It makes me so happy that you know who Thomas nasked.
Everybody's sitting out there going there'll be a factory for
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next time. Thomas Nast was probably like, I don't know,
who would you say with John Stewart, John George Carlin
something like that, you know, omar a political observer. But
he did it with cartoons and they're really cool cartoons.
But he would lampoon the politicians of the day. So
those were all in there. So those are two books
that were really cool books that I've never been able
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to find since then. They're out of print. Or whatever.
I should research it again more, but and I don't
think I know the exact titles of them. Yeah, so anyway,
there's a good side side detour my smashed car with
all the history I know. Bottom line is, I think
it's I think we're on the fourth one now, Yes,
(13:54):
I think I'm on the fourth episode three. Yeah, we've
recorded seven as of now, maybe because we're getting them
off PBS, you know when they show it on PBS.
So yeah, we're really enjoying the only problem is they
are two hours long. Yeah, and my wife falls asleep
every time. Yeah, no I don't. It's like, uh and
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it's not like she's bored. She loves them. But we
have to go back the next day and literally I'll
get to hey, I'll be up watching the game.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Here.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I moved it back to when you started snoring.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah, well, my wife is not loving it. But if
I want her to fall asleep, is turn that on?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
What is she not a history? Uh? So what do
you think she doesn't like?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
My wife loves to learn, but uh, the pace and
talk of it just it's just not it's just too
boring for her. It's too intellectual.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Like I don't know, beater her.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Coyote is a long time narrator.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Is that his name?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, And he does have a sonorant voice.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I mean, i'll be honest, and a couple of times
and then I got to go back the next day.
But that's not because it's boring. It's just because it
is very.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Like soothing, right, you know it is? And he has
a very soothing voice. Yeah, I mean the first couple.
John Chancellor I think did the first two or three,
and he's I think Peter Coyote has done everyone since.
His name is Peter Coyote. It is Peter Coyote. Yes,
he was an age name. I think it's just real.
Who would pick Peter Coyote is a stage name. I
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don't know he was. He was a fairly prominent actor
for a while, but now now he's best known yet too.
And I was reading Joe Posnanski's newsletter that I subscribe to,
which is great and it does cost like thirty bucks
a year. Anyway, it's really good. But and he's so
ridiculous prolific. But he says they're watching it and his
(15:52):
wife one of her favorite things to do is she
recognizes voices. So during the Ken Bridge. Oh, that's Meryl Street,
that's Tom Hanks, that's you know so and so.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Right, Well, the guy that that voices Paul Giomani, I
think it is his name. The voice is John Adams.
He was John Adams in the HBO mini series, right,
and if you've not seen that HBO mini series, that
is fantastic. Could cover John Adams' life.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think the Adams come out great in this. I
mean that, you know, Abigail seems like a very wise woman.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
The voice of Abigail is the same voice that plays her.
Oh okay, yeah, uh well we would we could learn
more about that if this book had I've been smashing
your car.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We did. We did talk about cars.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Last time. We talked about drivers specifically and how crappy
some people are driving, which I experienced some of today
in the snow. But you had said that maybe people
out east are worst drivers. Okay, so I looked up
where in America has the worst drivers? Would you like
to learn about that, Danny.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I don't know. I don't know if I'm dubious that
I said that, because I don't think I think people
in the East are more aggressive drives. Yeah, that's what
you said.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You said more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
They're way more aggressive. I think people out here are
too passive.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yes, too timid, evidenced by the jeep Grand Cherokee I
followed going seven miles an hour today.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
When I was returning with said recording device, there was
somebody who were going I was going downhill on seventy
fifth Street and someone was going about They were going
to turn into the quick trip. So for about I
don't know, three quarters of a mile before that, they
were going as slow as you can go and still
be moving. Right, there was no danger of me sliding.
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Let's put it that one.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Well, I've got four states here. Mississippi is often named
among the worst states for drivers. Okay, they have the
highest rate of fatal accidents per capita. Okay. Wyoming has
one of the highest rates of fatal crashes per one
hundred thousand people, despite the small population.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Of course, they only have seven thousand. Right. Yeah, well,
the speed limits eighty five. Uh huh, So I would
think if you have an accident, you're probably dead.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
You had an elkatt ninety miles an hour, you're probably
in trouble.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
New Mexico is cited for having terrible drivers due to
their fatal crashes and Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So it seems like wide open space or this coign liquor.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yes, yes, for bad drives.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, Mississippi also has the least per capita spending for
education in the nation annually, so maybe that feeds.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Into well, Danny, that's that's just fake news. So I
am going south this weekend. I'm going to Huntsville. We
talked about this. My daughter's gonna run in Huntsville over
the weekend, and we I said there was a university there.
Last time, I thought Alabama was there, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The University of Alabama Huntsville exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
We covered that. But did you know that Huntsville's the
Rocket City?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I did know that. Yeah. I mean it's not like
if somebody said it Huntsville, Alabama, I'd go the rocket city.
But when you say that, I yes.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So Wernavan Braun led the missile program there, right, and
that's where they came up with the all the big
rockets that got us for the moon allegedly. Uh. Anyway,
so it's apparently a really nice town because there's a
lot of good paying jobs there and it's uh, they've
got a bunch of craft breweries. One of them is
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called the best. One I looked up is called Straight
to Ale. So I'm gonna go there, check that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Out, bring back some product.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
On the on the aeroplane. No, I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Run in here, No, I can't. Driving to Huntsville's Huntsville
in the north part of Alabama.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yes, just south of Nashville, like an hour and a
half south of Nashville.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So you could drive that. I could. But you know what,
I never drove to Nashville.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Getting ready to say, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
No, No, I flew every time. Yeah, it's great. Are
you flying to Nashville.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
It was cheaper to fly direct to Huntsvill then to
go to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
So otherwise we were.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Going to go to Nashville, State Nashville and go out.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But okay, last fact check, Danny, and this is a
ding ding ding. I am correct.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Fact check.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I said that the Fox NFL broadcast looks way different
than the CBS NFL broadcast, right.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Right, and nice I think I said. I think Fox
has always looked their television picture product has always looked
better for me.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
They're better for baseball. I don't like the NFL look.
But I couldn't put my finger on, like how it
looks different? Right? Well, here's why Fox uses a more stylized,
high contrasted, saturated pop look. Well, CBS uses more of
a natural balanced image. Okay. They do this by the
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filters and the contrast that they put on their cameras. Okay,
so Fox pushes a brighter overall master with lifted mid tones,
punchier highlights, and darker shat, and that increased the perceived contrast. Well,
CBS pulls the image down and like rounds off the edges.
So the Fox broadcast looks more sharp and modern, right,
(21:12):
and the CBS broadcast looks more classic and soft. And
I prefer the CBS broadcast. But I've always wondered if
I was crazy, But.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'm not about this.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
At least I remembered my mic stand.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh yes, it's just really, you know, I'm so happy
with this little satchel I have, which all which holds
all the microphones, all the clips, all the you know,
everything except the recording device which I have to use
in my studio at home. It's a pretty grand word
for what I have there. It is a studio. It
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is a studio of sorts. There's a soundboard there, et cetera.
So uh so I do have to take it out
of the little bag. What would be a a wise
thing to do at some point is to get another recording.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Device for the road.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
You know. That's not This is a wonderful thing. This zoom.
It's only like three four hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
They're cheaper than that. Now. I was pricing them the
other day because.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I was a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It's a it's it's a very good one and it
can be used for music or anything else. So it's cool.
I like it. And uh, this is just a good time,
good time, and good way to break for another beer
because I need one finished summer beer, yes, summer soue.
And we don't know we're going to get into next,
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but that's often the case. Oh you do. Oh yeah,
Joe's got a plan. That's it. That's always dangerous, always
dangerous on thirsty Thursdays. Sense and nonsense, and we're back
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(25:25):
with you. I am back, We are back, and Melvin
is back. We haven't had a Melvin for a while,
but I mean, how can you not be excited when
it's back into Hayese. Yeah, oh buddy, Oh, I haven't
(25:48):
done it yet. I haven't. It's friggity fresh, I says
the can. This is right up your alley.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I think you're gonna like this hop lock like pop
and lock.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh oh my god. That's good, right, that is discourse good. Yeah,
this is a good beer. I think there's a couple
of things that play here. First of all, it's a
hazy ipa. Secondly, Melvin Brewing is an Alpine Wyoming, which
is another good fact check because Alpine's got to be
(26:23):
a beautiful place, even though Wyoming is a juxtaposition of
incredible boredom and incredible beauty.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I feel like we looked this up one. No, we
had an we had an Alpine, Illinois.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Remember that. And you thought that it was named after
the trees. It wasn't. It was named after the Indians.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh that's okay, that sounds that sounds Virablewhere this year
before I just go over exuberantly rate it. I'm going
to have a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I mean, I think that this is the this is
like you say, discourse level. I mean, this is an
eight for me.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
This is really good. This is like an eight point one.
It's almost it's a little bit snappier, a little bit
happier than a hazy I p a I usually like,
but I like it. I think it's smooth. Really, I
(27:25):
think it's smoother like maybe it maybe snappier, maybe happier
isn't right, Snap, it's got a real crisp crispness, which
I like. Oh it's crisp.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
And then it's got like a it's easy drinking a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Oh, it's very very good. And I don't know why.
It's just maybe because I took a good gulp that
went right to my might.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Fly through, uh fly fly right on down my gullet.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Have you checked out the it's only six point five.
That's that's what I think. Another thing that was at
play is that it's a hay and that's that's a
fairly low alcohol content, prazy pretty low hazy by the way,
before we do the old timey phrases, just so I
don't forget. Because I just looked this up. I think
(28:14):
I watch a lot of soccer these days. It's my workout.
It's my workout thing, confession, well pleasure. I have to
work a lot. But you know, I'm doing these more
extensive workouts now because I have a personal trainer and
I do every other day. I do the bands and
(28:35):
the weights and all that stuff, and then I do
some aerobic So sometimes I'm down there if I have
a day where I can do it for I don't know,
ninety minutes something like that. So I like the other
day I had a couple of games that were got
out of hand or whatever. I watched like two games
and about twenty minutes of another game in one workout.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I'm very jealous of the tiny work.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Anyway, I saw something I didn't know could be done
in soccer. Okay, could occur, all right, Everton's playing I'm
trying to see who they were playing. Well, yeah, Everton,
this is last. They're into the next cycle of games.
But Everton's playing man U. It's the early early going.
(29:18):
So in the thirteenth minute, two defenders are for Everton.
Are you know what they get? They get a little
confused with each other and they give up a really
good scoring opportunity which was saved so it didn't score.
One of the players, his name is Guy A. He's
a really good player. He's a long time you know,
(29:41):
national team players, thirty six years old. And Michael Keen,
who's the team captain. They get into it and Guy
he goes over and he ends up slapping him in
the face and he gets red carded for hitting his
own planning his own teammate. I didn't know that, So
he gets tossed for hitting his own teammate in the face.
(30:01):
Do you think? So?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Do you think if Patrick Mahomes walked up to Zagie
Worthy and punched him in the helmet after he'd ran
the wrong route for the seventeenth time in a row,
that he could get a personal foul penalty?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
No, So I was like, but they showed the rule
and it said the official teammate whatever, you're gone, So anyway,
this guy's gone. He was hot. I mean they had
to barely like wow. So anyway, they won. They were
in the thirteenth and the thirteenth minute and they won.
It was so cool. Huh. Anyway, so did you? I
(30:39):
was like flabbergasted, first of all, even at half the
announcers for the next fifteen minutes the game went kind
of flat, and so the announcer are going, I don't
think either team can believe what has just occurred.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I would not have if you'd have asked me, I
would probably have told you that it's probably not the
case that that could happen.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
You know. Well, he never would have crossed my mind anyway.
So that was that was you know, that was a
fun and unusual incident.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Well, your I texted you last night your favorite soccer
announcer was on sixty minute.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yes, and I did watch it. Did you watch it?
I did, and he was talking about these, you know,
wonderful talents.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
So yeah, lam A, yeah, my daughter knew him, Rightma,
you know you're getting older. Yeah. She walks through the
room as I'm watching sixty minutes and she's like, oh
them all, And I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, I know lam All. I've seen to play. But yeah,
I saw, you know, he I think he was he
was even well I saw him playing Champions League last
year and he was already a thing and you could
tell he's a fantastic talent.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Oh you know what I did. I saw him playing
Champions League last year as well.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yes, and he is a he is a you know
and yes, well stuff, but I texted it. It was
only eighteen. He's been playing for two and a half
years now, and he's like everybody thinks he's going to
be the greatest thing since MESSI, basically the next MESSI
they're calling him. But and now the name just flew
right out of oh Neymar. You know, Neaymar was in
(32:04):
the two thousand and what twelve World Cup? Was that
when he became a thing? I think so whenever, let's
see twelve, eight, no, fourteen, the fourteen he went crazy
and that's when Neymar became a thing. But he hasn't
really been no otherworldly. I mean, he's been an excellent poll.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Roy Hudson said on sixty Minutes. He's like he could
I wish I could do the accent that he's like
he could be he could be Basically, he said he
could be greater, he could be nothing.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, and he's only eighteen now and he's I mean,
he's fantastic, so we'll see. And Ray Hudson is a
treasure also and he just retired.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
So, Danny, when's the last time you had some delicious
fried fish? A fried fish fried sothern style fried fish?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Oh no, I don't. A nice broiled fish is so
good that I know, anything with batter on it a
long No, you know what, probably the last time I
had it when I used to, you know, in my youth,
I ate, like a normal American human being.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
What about when Jane orders it and she has some
delicious h more vinegar on that fish?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I'm not no, I mean I'm not like I haven't
had a bite, but probably the what do they call it?
What's the McDonald's one fish? I used to That was
my order at McDonald's for a while. Roast. I mean,
this is this is literally fifty years so gross. Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I ordered some fried fish and it came with some hushpuppies.
Would you eat a hushpuppy?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I like hushpuppies? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, Where do you think the name hushpuppy comes from?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
You know? Usually I have an inkling on these.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
You keep saying that you haven't had a lot of inklings.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Later, Well, that was the last time I didn't have
an inkling. Let's not call this a trend yet, hush puppies.
That doesn't make any sense, I think literally, Well, the
puppies like to eat them, so they just say to
hush puppy, you can't have our little tater talks. I
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don't know, I've got nothing.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Okay, So this is a bit of folklore. Okay, there's
no there's no way to confirm this. But this is
where a lot of people think the name comes from.
When during during slavery in America, when slaves would want
to run away, they write something to distract the dogs,
(34:36):
and they had access to corn meal, and they'd fry
up a bunch of hushpuppies and when they were running away,
they would throw them out and say, hushpuppy, hushpuppy, hushpuppy,
like to try to distract the dogs that they would
use to try to chase them.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Wow, you know, I like that story, whether it's true
or not. I like the story because I like slaves escaping.
It just sounds like a good thing to me. So
would you rather so? Hush puppies are made with corn
meal right till this moment, I wasn't really fully aware.
I know that it wasn't potatoes, which I'd probably rather
(35:09):
have a tater todd than a hush puppy.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
What do you think, Well, I think hushpubbies have their
time in place, Stanny, So like I've got some fried fish.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Right, these were equals that you just choose for what
they're being served with.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Well, I think that tater tots are superior.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh ok, I got you to say.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
In general, but a good hush puppy with some malt
vinegar on it. Oh buddy, don't get me started.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I am in favor of malt vinegar.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
But we covered that on the first episode of this podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
So he's go back all Bay to the beginning. We've
probably done one hundred and fifty of these.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Maybe the best episode we've ever done.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I don't know, we've done a lot of they're they're good.
You know, Joe's not Joe's a good critic. He's a
man who will say that's how kind of how we
know each other. He is an emailer and whatever. But
when he says that this is a good product, I believe.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Well, sometimes I listen to our episodes and I think
to myself that was close, but no cigar.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Usually that's when you are quiet, because you usually don't
say that.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Where do you think?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Close?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
But no cigar comes from?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Oh by you boy, Joe's rolling, he's rolling today. Close
that it must be that you won Is it a
pregnancy thing or is it a or is it a
that the cigar was a prize that you would win
for doing something? You got it, man, But I was
(36:43):
alsigned that the more fun thing would be is like
you were trying to get somebody pregnant, your life pregnant,
and then it didn't happen, and then you could say
it was close, but no cigar, because you pass out
cigars when you're baby.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
That's a good.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
That's a good that that'd be a fake one you
could just pass off. You could just pass you. I
could have said that right now, and I would have
believed it. Well.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
In the eighteen hundred, the carnivals and they would often
give away cigars a surprizes.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
So if you're at the carnival and that you know the.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Cigar, So that's where that comes from.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
You know what? The person who does that carnival old
timey voice a lot Conan O'Brien does the fun on
his podcast, and it's so funny. The old oh right right,
Actually that's interesting. It's not quite down that alley. But
maybe one time I'll play this for you right now,
(37:41):
the old time radio CD set that I have in
my player that I will put on, you know, like
I do gun smoke and queue the cue the old
folks on water right right. So. And I wasn't even
born when many of these things were done, but I
like them. And there it's a great craft. Full time
(38:01):
radio is a great craft. And the one that I'm
listening to now is by Chris bought a twelve CD
set of Broadway is My Beat, and it's about Detective
Danny Clover.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
And it's a very you imagine yourself as this detective.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Is this no, no, this is so sad and you know,
but it's elaborately written. It's wonderfully written, but it's it's
a little over the top and fifty style and sort
of but not really. He's a he's a regular New
York City cop. He's not a private detective. But he
starts it off. It'll be like Broadway Is My Beat,
(38:42):
the most sordid, deceitful mile in the city. But it's
my beat.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Broadway comes at you like a red Temptress with with
you know. So it's really got elaborate language to it
and saxophone, but it's a Every time I listen to it,
I'm like, Wow, that was good. That was a good one.
You know how you know?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I was born an old soul, Danny Is. I used
to listen to Prairie Home Companions on NPR in high.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
School, like that was an acquired taste for me. I
didn't like Harry Home Companion when I first started to
listen to it. I didn't I would. I found it
a bit cloying and interesting, but no, as time went on,
I was like, what kind of an idiot are you?
This is a wonderful show. In fact, I used to
(39:33):
like because they were beyond. At the same time, Tom
Bodett had a show, Oh yes, yes, and that was
a really good show, and I liked it far better
than Prairie Home.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Became a guest on Wait wait, don't tell me so, right?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I And you know where Tom Bodett lives now? Where Brattleboro, Vermont?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
How do you know that?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Because that's where I was born. Oh, Okay, Well, he
was actually on six you know, on CBS Sunday Morning,
probably three years ago. They did a profile of time.
Where's Tombo hat these days? And he lives in Bred,
where I've never been back to. Really, I've never been.
I only lived there for one year. I've never been.
(40:15):
But there is a funny story and I'm actually doing
I'm writing. I did a lot of writing this weekend
on the sequel to my book.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Oh we're finally getting to work, huh, probably grinding.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
We did five six hours of writing this weekend. I
would say here, the weather suck. So no golf news,
no anything. Anyway. The story that opens the first book,
which is going to be part of the whole book.
It's going to be a double book. So, uh, the
first book's going to be there. Yeah, the whole book's
(40:48):
going to be there anyway. So the story that opens
it is about me being born and the fact that
I was six days late and saved my mother's honor
because I told that story anyway. So I was at
the final four several years ago, and this is the
story that actually opens the book. And because it's tied
into the fact that I was born in Brattleboro and
(41:11):
Tom Brennan, the longtime University of Vermont coach who became
an announcer, was there and I said, hi, Tom. I
introduced myself and I said, you know, I'm a big fan.
I enjoy your work and I always rooted for the
Catamounts when they were in the NCAA tournament. And I said,
I was born in Brattleborough, but I've never been back.
(41:31):
And I know you recruit the state and everything, and
I said, you know, I've always thought about going back
to seeing what it's like, but I've heard it's not
much of a town. And he goes, oh my god,
you don't want to go to that, to that fucking place.
So but you know what, on this on the CBS
Sunday Morning thing, it looked like maybe this area of
(41:53):
round because it is it was an industrial rivertown that
was depressed and whatever. So so I the thing is,
I could go. I could have gone back when I
went to my radio reunion, Yeah you should. It was
like I was probably I don't know, fifty miles I
could have driven fifty miles north and then I probably
(42:13):
should have done it, probably, but I've never done it.
So I still have not been back to Brattleborough.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Well, I had a paper route in high school. I
don't know if we've ever talked about this. My going
the summer, going into my senior year, and then the
first part of my senior year where I would drive
two hundred and fifty miles on a rural paper route.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Have you ever talked about it? No, No, this is great.
So I had a Sunday Boston Globe paper route, but
not yeah, no, this was like rural. So I would go.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
I'd drive to Hutchinson in my nineteen ninety one penny
like Sunbird convertible and on Sundays. On Sundays, I'd have
to put the top down because I couldn't fit all
the papers for that putting the top down, and I'd
pick up all the papers and then I would fold
them on my steering wheell as I drove right and
ban them up and then deliver in the country.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Till like this two and fifty tosser.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Uh no, they went into mailboxes.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Oh that's worse.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Yeah, And so I was a terrible delivery man. I
never never had a perfect score. But NPR would replay
the Sunday Prairie Home Companion and all that stuff. In
the middle of the night when I'm out delivering papers.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Oh so you this is like a two am I
pick up the papers.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Yeah, I'd pick up the papers at three and then
I deliver until like six six thirty and then I
go get breakfast at this little diner in hutch and
then I go to school all day.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Wow. Yeah, so you did that five days a week, so.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
What No, No, I did that seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Oh, every day, every day.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
What was the money?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
It was so good. It was like I made like
twenty one twenty two hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
In nineteen and ninety nine, this was was ninety eight
cents a gallon.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Wow, that's a long day.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Though.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Yeah. I did have to change the brakes on my
car like every eight weeks. But yeah, no, I did
that for like nine months and saved up money. It
was I had to pay for everything myself, and so like,
I need some cash.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
But didn't you have it? You had a free house though,
free house.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
I did have free rent, but everything else. You know,
you're a you're a boy of seventeen years old. You're
trying to, you know, wear nice things and and uh,
you know, take the ladies out.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
For goods, which apparently you did.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
But anyway, you know what we have to talk about
before we're done, said and done is Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Okay, because I know that you have a larger gathering,
I'll just cover mine in two seconds because it doesn't
is more interesting.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Did you go back up to the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
In you go to the space Plan? No, we know
we we often will go to Paropos in the North Lane,
but recently we've gone to Peropo's in what's a prior Cliff,
Prior Cliff. This time we went to Grand Street for
a buffet because my wife couldn't get any other so
so it was eleven am. It wasn't my favorite idea,
(45:15):
but the food was fantastic. Just my sister in law
and brother and brother in law and it was a
wonderful time. Very you have some mimosas they're at eleven o'clock.
I actually did something I don't do as I go
on in life. I never would. I never liked to
drink at lunch, but I had. I did have a
glass of wristling. Oh that's it? Well, yeah, it was it.
(45:40):
But I thought this was leading up to them. No, no, no,
it was no drunk. No, no it was not. It was,
but I will say that they so they bring I said,
can I have her restling because my sister in law
ordered bottomless mimosa? Okay she should, right, you should have,
(46:01):
but I didn't really want to do that. The Chiefs
were playing that day. No, that's true, right, So I
just really went home and had a little nap and
then watched the Chiefs and then but anywaysling came. It
was a wonderful reastling. It was. It's a sweet sweet.
Sometimes it's a little dry, some more sweet. This was
more sweet, which I liked better. But they it comes
(46:21):
and they I'm like what. My brother in law ordered
one too, because he said I'll have one with Danny.
And it comes and it's like, you know, a big
wine glass. I'm like, well, thanks for the flip and effort.
There was nothing in it. I mean, it was like
so weak. So I did have two, two small reastlings with.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
My Maybe it was a lot of wine in a
big glass and you just don't realize.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
That, No it was not. It was about four SIPs
of wine.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
How many of these on these bottomless mimosas did.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
This gal have I think she had that many? I
mean she she's she's a horse woman and so she'll
stop me. She's an equestrian. Okay, this was no disparity.
I didn't I didn't say she was a horsey woman.
That was the girlfriend who tried to kill me. So anyway,
(47:16):
we want to talk about your Thanksgiving, which is a
larger gathering down at the lake.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
You know, we go down the lake. I cut I
cut a bunch of trees down.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So it was fun for what what just firewood or no?
Speaker 4 (47:28):
We had to clear this. Uh. We got my father
in law. I bought some extra land down there and he.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Had taking work.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
Oh dude, it was so much fun. He bought this
brand new chainsaw right and I just got to cut
trees down for a few hours. You know, it's a
it's a it's a pretty pretty decent sized house.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
But how many people there's a lot of us. There's
you must have had seven adults and seven teenagers. Well
that's enough in a.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Three bedroom, two and a half bath, right, Well we
had a basement that they can hang out in.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
But you know, so what was you got to get
out of the house? So what was fourteen in three.
What's the sleeping arrangement, Oh, buddy, well, so like to
all the spiker the four Spikers are in one room.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
No, no, no, no, no, we have this room upstairs with
like three sets up bunk beds.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yes, all the kids. Yeah, right, and.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
Then I got my wife and I got a bedroom.
My brother in law and his wife had a bedroom.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
And then so it's the possibility for thanky thanky panky
is there? No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
No, this sounds is too fold in it.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
So it's a good time. Thank you panky, No.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Thank you panky we we. I will say this to
those of you out there that don't like turkey, you're
just cooking it wrong. Because my father in law makes
these two turkeys, one smoked and.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
The other one spoiled. Yeah, it's just the you know,
memory of especially for somebody my age. Yeah, big family.
Mom's got to make a thirty pound turkey, put it
in the oven. I mean, it's that's why there's that's
why there's gravy. Yeah. It was so dry you couldn't
even couldn't even eat it. I mean it's like it's
(49:13):
like wood. Well that's everything.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
No, it was like sawdust. Yes, yeah, that's every turkey
I ever had until this. This man started cooking the
turkeys on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
And to the Grand Street Cafe in the plaza. Their
turkey was outstanding.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
Very good. Well, Danny, we've covered this one at the time.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
But before we leave, you have to tell me.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yes, everybody, it's it's such a playout topic, but what's
your favorite side for things caving?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Oh well, this has been done many many times, and
I know it turned into a great topic at the
at the Kansas City Breakfast Club, right whichever it And
they actually said, you know, before the speaker comes up,
they'll generally do table introductions. The worst one is that
everybody hates. But is a way to introduce basis that
(50:00):
you have to introduce all the other people at your table.
A lot of times you're like struggling to remember who
the so you're sitting there. Oh god, if they call him,
I got to sit there and go, okay, that's a
guy from you know, he's got a business, he's got
this business, he's a roofer, he's on it whatever. So
but this time they just said, say, what what's the
state of your business right now? And what's your favorite side?
(50:24):
And so I was like, first, I think, and I said, well,
nobody really likes this, so it's fun to talk about.
But my favorite side on Thanksgiving one hundred percent is turnip. Yeah.
So they went around the room and they are probably
forty people there, and at least half of them said
something about turnip. Either three or four said they liked it,
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and the other were like, I don't even ever eat
I've never eaten it. I don't care. So turnip is
my favorite side? You still hold to that, yes, because,
first of all, because it's unusual.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yes, but that's why you like to say, but is
it really your favorite side?
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yes, it is my favorite side because it's a unique
flavor and made correctly. It's wonderful. And to my my
beautiful bride's credit, she occasionally just whips up like the
other day, just and it's not easy to make. It's
like comes into like a big it's hard to cut,
it's hard to Yeah, it's hard to mash. And she
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makes it like four or five times a year for me.
You have it mashed, Yeah, it's mashed. Yeah. It's like
it's like it's like you know when Thanksgiving you have squash. Yeah,
it's like that. It served like that.
Speaker 4 (51:35):
I had some German turnip soup the other night.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Ooh, how that restaurant.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I would that's founced to die for. It was really good. Okay,
but how about you, Oh buddy, you know, so what
was on the menu?
Speaker 4 (51:53):
Okay, So here's the here's the menu, real fast, and
then we got to go. We've got turkey smoked and broiled,
gravy homemade with fresh mushrooms, and it's so good. Then
you've got mashed potatoes, green bean casserole, peas, homemade cranberry sauce,
homemade rolls.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
So did you say mashed potatoes.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yes, homemade mashed potatoes for sure.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
I think no other meat. You stick to the traditional turkey,
no ham.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
I mean he made a twenty eight or twenty six
pound and twenty four pound turkey, and we got through
all of it.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Whoa one you know, leftover funny one?
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Leftover meal?
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Well you got teenagers, dude.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Yeah, my son went after it after it. I gotta
say it's probably green bean castrole because I know I
only have it once a year.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
No, it's not true. Stuffing.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
Stuffing's my favorite, especially when my wife makes it. It's
so good.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
It's such a wide variance in how stuffing is made.
You know what, I'm glad you say stuffing. When I
first moved out here, it was stuffing my whole life
many things. When I moved to dressing, a lot of
people call it dressing. Interesting. Isn't that more southern? It
is kind of southern, But it would. It certainly happened
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out here.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
I heard it and I'm like, what are you talking about?
Do they put you know, blue cheese on the turkey?
Because it was stuffing my whole I had never even
heard of dressing.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
I don't know what my family said growing up.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Okay, well that's another fact we've got. You got, you
got your busy game made my life easier, it wo okay, easier,
not harder. That's what we like to do here on Thursday. Oh,
Melvin isn't even done. I'm ready for another swig of
Melvin on Thursday Thursdays Sense and Nonsense.
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