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October 23, 2025 51 mins
The banter buddies are back with their usual wide ranging free-for-all. From histiorical facts to silly passions to beer ratings to phrase derivations, it’s always a blast. Grab a beverage and come along for the ride!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Danny Clinkscale Reasonably irreverent podcast, insightful and
witty commentary, probing interviews and detours from the beaten path.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Thursday Thursday cens in Nonsense. I'll tell you what.
If you want to know two busy guys, then you'll
know that when this podcast is released, Joe will be
in Texas and I will not. And that means that
I can do remote interviews, which I often do over
the phone for my other podcast, but that doesn't make

(00:37):
for much of a beer drinking festival. So we are
taping this Saturday before the Thursday. So anyway, you know,
I guess it's a more appropriate thing to be sucking
beers down on Saturdays. So I guess that's partially a
good thing. But anyway, it's time to get as worth

(01:00):
almost of facts and words and musings and such. We
won't be talking about timely things like the Chiefs or
late night at the fog. Well, we could talk about that.
That was last night as we speak, twelve thousand, twelve thousand.
I noted that anyway, but it should be a lot

(01:22):
of fun. We're in this great spot. It arrived outdoors.
The sound sounds great here. We have a lot of
things to touch on. I can't wait because I absolutely
cannot remember what facts there might have been. I'm always
hoping to be right. Everybody wants to be right. We
have a couple of great beers and shock and Awe.
We have one from Discourse. I could have gone with

(01:44):
two without, but it was such a unique looking brew
that I decided to go with it. But we're going
to start out with something different, so that will be
a little way to shake it up. From Santa Fe
Liquors and Pat and his great staff over there, and
they really are nice people there, and they'll point you
in the right direction, always adding new beers. It's October

(02:08):
Fest time. We're just about to run past that, but
Halloween and all that stuff, so all kinds of good
stuff to do, and I am very thirsty. It's almost
six o'clock. We usually drinks sooner than this on Thursty Thursdays.
Sense and Nonsense.

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Speaker 3 (04:19):
Football back in Lawrence.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Can you imagine that we actually had to endure a
year without it.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, it is back.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
It's back on campus. We're so happy that they're here,
just like years past. We offer a free shuttle coming
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(04:45):
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Speaker 3 (05:12):
What's up, buddy, We're back.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, we are back.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I mean it's been too long.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
It has been too long. We we sometimes get together
in between Thursday Thursdays.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
We may or may not have played a little Golden tea.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
And Joe thinks he's gonna get me sometime.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I'm gonna get you. Might get you tonight.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
But he thinks he might, you know, he might. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I've you know, I considered playing the same course over
and over again and trying to learn every trick on
the course right and then spring it on me and
springing it on you. But what I learned is they
change the weather conditions every time, and so the course
is played different right.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
And also the one of the unrealistic things about golden
tea is the fact that the wind changes drastically during
the course of the round. He could be like, no
miles in and then all of a sudden it's blowing
twenty which in real life I guess could happen if
a thunderstorm blew wind, but ordinarily wouldn't. But that's probably
about as much golden tea as we need to talk about.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
We got the new course is always going to talk.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Too good because I've been playing them and they're they're
pretty hard. Yeah, they're actually pretty hard. One of them
isn't that hard? I haven't played all of them yet.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Is there anything that could bore people more than us
talking about our golf game, then talking about our.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Fantasy sports, our betting. I don't bet, so that's I.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Love hearing about gambling. Are you kidding me? Everybody loves
talking about gambling.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think people do like hearing about gambling. I don't
know if fantasy team has fell into that.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
And I told my wife that she has ruined my
son because she's so interested in talking to him, and
one thing he will talk to her about as a
teenage boy is his fantasy team. So now he thinks
that everybody wants to hear about his fantasy team, and
so I have to sit through his musings over his
lineup all the time. What do you think of this beer?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think it's really good.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
What I think it has been a while since we
had one that had this flavor profile. This is my favorite.
It says it's double dry hopped.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
But it's it. It's supposed to be well. I didn't
know how does even describe it. I don't even know
what's anyway. It's it's a More ever by the More
Brewing Company, which is out of Illinois. It's lovely. It
can looks like it's supposed to be some kind of
a I don't even know if it's supposed to be

(07:32):
kind of an outdoor scene, but a cracked or maybe
a sunset, and I don't know. It's pretty hazy and
I love it. I really like it.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
It's really good. I mean, look at it. You cannot
see through this beer. I mean it is nice and
cloudyly cloudy.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yes, very very tasty. And as we have talked about before,
I have not had any liquid and a half hours.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Is that your normal? And I made you late?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, because Joe's doing a little coaching. Yes, or we
got backed up, but we are ready to rock and roll. Now.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
You can blame the shield Socker complex for running behind
as to why we were late for this. What are
you going to rate this beer?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I'm going to give it. I'm going to to take
one more sip and make sure I'm not going to
go a little too crazy here. But I love this
is one of the best. This is one of my
favorite beers I've had.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Really.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, wow, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
You should probably be in the eighth on this.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Eight on the nose. Oh okay, that's More Ever by
More Brewing Company m O R. E. Quit Little crisscross
on it, available at Santa Fe Liquors, a brand new one.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
So yeah, I'll go seven six. I think eight is low.
For as much as you like this, I think you
need to loosen up the belt a little bit on
some of these ratings.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You know, one of these days, maybe I'll just trot
in a chemet and just give it a nine point four.
I gotta leave, you know, you got to leave her
little room. That's all. You got to leave a little
room for, you know, for once something that's truly spectacular.
This is this is borderline. But I'm spoiled so bad.
Not only do we usually have a Discourse here now

(09:19):
a new ritual for me if on a Monday, I
don't have anything else going on in the evening, or
I'm not meeting somebody, or go practice golf or whatever,
and that's probably gonna happen more with the weather. Monday
is usually a good practice day for me. But I
like to go to Discourse because they have the Vinyl man.
He's there, the guy who sells vinyl records. And I

(09:42):
actually have not gotten to the listening room the last
couple of weeks to get my copy of the original
Cars album, which I bought.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Have you been down to the record store down on
the crossroads, the big one. They have beer on tap.
They let you drink for free while you're shopping.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, we should go.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
It's fun and they've got the whole downstairs is all used.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh wow, I would love that, And you know, and
I've got really incentive to that now because some one
of these days maybe we'll get a turntable or whatever.
But I have the ability now to take a record
like the Cars first album and go down there have
it fixed up. I took a brand new copy of

(10:26):
Bayla Flex Trios album to the listening room the last
time I went, which was a couple of weeks ago,
and what we found was this is a brand new
record and it wasn't flat, no kidding. And they have
they also, in addition to having the thing that cleans
the records at the listening room, they have a flattener.
Really they put it like in some kind of slight

(10:47):
oven situation.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
So did you buy that record at the show?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I did not. I bought it online.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
So they heat it up, let it flatten out.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
And then I haven't picked it up yet because I
haven't gone back.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Interesting do they charge you for that?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
No, they don't charge anything. What is what they take?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
They take?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
It's all donations. Although they're programs like the last time
I went, or a couple of times ago when I went,
not the last time. They they've switched it up a little.
The listening room now does the open spin from one
to three thirty and then at four they have several
program They usually have a program on Thursday, program on Friday,
program on Saturday. Those are tickets. You buy them, okay,

(11:28):
but they serve alcohol and that because they're a nonprofit,
they have to give it away, so you'd have to
do donations on that, but they do. There is alcohol there.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
So you're slipping off a couple of nickels for them.
Every time you get a.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh I always, I always go in and usually I'm
good for at least five bucks. Yeah, because I get
maybe one record fixed. But yeah, they do all this stuff.
But the list, the open spin is free. But the
wreck then now there's a record presentation at four. And
I stayed for one with Frank Zappa, Frank one of

(12:00):
Frank Zappa's albums, and that was that was really good.
It was a really good album, and that oh yeah.
The last time I went, I stayed for John Prime's
first album.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh yeah, you told me.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
That was really that was tremendous. I mean it was
really tremendous. And so that you buy a ticket for that.
It's only ten bucks, and so I decided I was
going to stay, and I was already there. I'd been
there by myself.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Basically, you're spending ten dollars, it must be worth it,
because that's a that's a mighty sum of money to
peel out of your pocket.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
You act like I'm cheap. There's a difference between poor
and cheap, not put but especially when I with my
wife's spectacularly successful business. Speaking of goods, and that's not hyperbolie.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You were talking last time about a movie that you
went to called Cat People. Do you remember this movie?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yes? It was my first date with my first wife.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Okay, so you couldn't really recall a lot about the movie.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
It was at a drive and also was it really
out east?

Speaker 4 (13:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Here is it the driving this down by?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You don't really remember, all right, So it.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Was originally this movie was originally made in nineteen forty two,
but I'm assuming we went to the remake that was
made in nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, and wasn't Nastasia Kinski in it?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
That is correct, Dan, But do you remember the plot
because the plot is hilarious that you went.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
To really remember the pot and it's not the kind
of movie I would see now exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
You would never watch this movie today. Okay. This gal
reunites with her brother and they realized that they're shape
shifters and when they get horny, they shape shift into
panthers and they cannot shape shift back into humans until
they kill somebody. Oh that's the plot of the movie.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
No, I certainly won't re returning people doesn't hold quite
as fond the memory as once did. Also, I did.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Say that it's very erotic, and it's become like you
remember that, and it's become a cult classic. And David
Bowie did the theme song cat People Parentheses putting out
the Fire, and I guess that the soundtrack was louded
as really really good. And then now it's got like

(14:25):
a cult following. So I'm gonna watch this movie, Danny.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Wow, Well she's she's worth watching.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
All right. Yeah, good to know. We last time we
had a hacker sure right beer and I looked up
how to pronounce it and I forgot already. Let's let's
play this real fast. Oh no, I cloted it out.
It's hacker, sure right, hawk up, Sure that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, that's because he just played it. You just played
hakka sure sure.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I think it is the way that it sounded. Anyway.
I was going to tell everybody how to say it,
and I just failed at that, So.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I think we spelled it last time. So yeah, just
go back to the last one.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
But it is one of Munich's oldest breweries, dating back
to fourteen seventeen.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Well, we've been on a run of historic breweries. I
think we did another fourteenth century one recently.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yes, yes, we did so. It's one of the original
six breweries that are allowed to pour beer at Oktoberfest.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Wow. Very nice. Yeah, it's pretty cool, right, I think
it's very cool.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Uh. Okay. Last time, for some reason, we talked about
embalming people and when that might have started. Yes, yes, wow,
And so I remember thinking last time that I had said,
of course it started with the ancient Egyptians, but I
didn't say it. But of course that's where it started. Okay,

(15:59):
But in modern history, when do you think and why
do you think like using you.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Know, modern embalming, modern technology.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Embalming fluid. Why what do you think like precipitated us
starting to embalm bodies?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know, usually when you do this or we do this,
something pops for me.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
This time, no, I think about an event where lots
of people died.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
So was it during the influenza.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Close the American Civil War?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Wow, So so many people were dying and they wanted
to get the bodies back home. So they came up
with the process of modern embalming, and so before that before,
I mean I thought I have gone back further than that,
But before eighteen.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Sixty issues, you just chucked them in the ground.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Tow them in the ground, maybe throw some lime on top,
and throw some dirt on top.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Well, I guess the necessity was the mother of invention.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yuck, And they found that to be a soluble problem. Yes,
which is actually a word. And I'll give a little
peek behind the curtain here. I start the fact check
with Chad GPT because it makes my life easier, right,
I put the notes into chat GPT. It gets me started.

(17:18):
But then I will double check most things, especially if
I'm going to say that you're wrong about something.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, you were pretty dubious about my use of the
words soluble.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
So I double checked it. And it does mean like
dissolving something into water, right, But it also means a
problem that is solvable.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
So good job, Danny.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Well, thank you. And I'm sure that that tidbit I
gave to your son went right in one ear and
out the other.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I'm sure it.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Which is another phrase? You can try that phrase next time.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Oh that's a good idea, right, Yeah, what is the
word for a self titled album Danny eponymous.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I finally was blundering around so much. G P O
N I m O U S.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
It's eponymous, right, eponymous. That's how you say it eponymous.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
And I did that. That word used to roll off
my tongue every because I like saying it because it
perfectly it is what it is. It's a self titled album. Yeah,
and but it's a word that nobody really hears. So
it's the people are.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Like, oh yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
It's written all the time. Like if you read record
reviews of somebody's first album, that word is almost always used.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Well, I figured out the key to saying it right
is you have to remember it starts with uh, not eponymous, right, eponymous,
Danny right, not hippopotamus.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Right, Just instantly you think of hippopotamus. When is there
there aren't that many words with muss at the end? Eponymous?
I mean famous, yeah, famous? You know, I think, try
to think of something that right, famous? Not that many things, right,
they'd be trying to blame us, and well, I guess

(19:05):
so us anything with us, But I mean a word
that kind of ends with us, right, and there's just us.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
There's also no more fact check left.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Oh, there you go. Well, I'm so glad Eponymous was
somewhat right by the time I blundered through it, and
we had a soluble problem that we could solve while
we were doing the fact check left and right. I'll
tell you what, I am very much enjoying this brew.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah I'm almost done.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, I'm eight two thirds done.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
I might have to up my rating a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I looked up our ratings for the Hawker Hawk Upshaw
beer last time, and it wasn't listed on the normal
beer side. It seems like it's probably a pretty common beer,
but it didn't. It didn't have it listed, and I
grated it very high. I believe I was an eight
point six on that.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, it was it because october Fest is your style
of old that's it.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's a proper october Fest, right. It was not just
a brown ale, not just a brownie right.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Well.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Actually, when I went to Santa Fe Liquors today, they
had a new beer, but it was a brown ale
and I can't remember what it may have been, this company,
I think it was. It was this company right here Morever.
But I said, no, not no brown ale for me.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
You know, Danny when people listen to this. We will
be two days away from the Sunfeller Showdown. Oh that's right,
will be attending in person, really the Sunfeller Showdown with
two K staters ooh and one Neral Neutral and me
because all of my kay you friends couldn't go. I

(20:41):
asked all these people, and I thought about asking you,
but we're gonna drink all morning and you don't do that.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
No, not ordinarily. Well, so yeah, I couldn't have done it.
I had college game day. In fact, we all know,
actually I could have done it because when we have
a dirty little secret, when we have a just a
half hour college game day, it's usually done done if
we don't go in there for half an hour. Although
if something you know, say Lance Lighthold got fired on

(21:10):
Friday night or something, we would go.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
And this is a big game and I can't wait.
We are going to roll into Lawrence about seven thirty a.
Start the motor up.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
We're gonna go to Johnny's.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
I'm gonna take these case staters on a bit of
a tour of the place, you know, THEWK, the Hawk,
the Wheels Place was my joint back in the day.
Where is place on Sixth Street, right there, across from
Brito King.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, that probably was either something else or it was
it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
The original Rix was down in right of a mass Street.
We were in Lawrence today, and uh it is wild,
how sort of dead and dying the outskirts of that
town on the north side field, Like everything is.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Like closed out there really.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, on the north side there, I.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Mean beyond you mean on on Sixth Street, on Sixth Street.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
No, no, no, no, I mean like north of the river.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Oh, north of the river.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, that's all of North Lawrence is like there used
to at least be some commerce.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
There's over the Johnny's over there, Johnny's at where the
business starts. Well, we went, we played golf and Lawrence
Country Club together, did That's right? We didn't play.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Well, stupid ass bent grass fairways.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well, I love Ben krez Fare, so I have no excuses.
I played terribly. And but thanks to our host Paul Fogel,
who actually is a remember at this very place where
we're recording another lusty edition of Thirsty Thursdays since and nonsense.
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Speaker 2 (24:38):
You're late, Yeah, I was late. I was late.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh my gosh, I'm never could.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Never really Now for once, Discourse has some competition here.
I mean, that was an outstanding first beer. It was
an eight. But really I was almost gonna skip Discourse
this time around. But even before I saw it was Discourse,

(25:04):
I saw a fest beer, which I know you like. Yes,
And then the label this is like the fanciest Discourse
label they've ever had. Honky Tonk Wrestling match. I love
it and it's a great graphic of these two big Yeah,
I will I will absolutely do that on the social media.

(25:25):
You will see that on the social media, folks, so
make sure you check that out.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I love the Discourse brewing at the bottom. Yeah, this
is a great label.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
These are two big, strong fellas. Actually they look like
identical twins wrestling each other. To be honest.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Looks like a couple of macho man Randy savages on
it right.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
More with some big mugs of beer around. This is cool.
That's a that's a branch out. Usually there their labels
are kind of simple. Okay, well I haven't tasted it yet,
so let's see.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
It's the perfect second beer after the first beer. Yes,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
That's a little Usually when I go to Discourse, I
almost always get something hazy. Yeah, this is not a
hazy beer. It is an outstanding fest beer, crisp. Yes,
and right after you have something that's a little more
cloudy or yeah, a little. Maybe you had a brown ale,
Maybe you had a I had was that a kay?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Look how clear that is? That's like a bud light.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
No.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I went to a brewery in downtown Shawnee and I
had a beer, a second beer I had. I go
to with my friend Andy and we go to different places,
and we had gone to this place before and we
didn't really think it was great. So I'm not going
to say what it was, but it was way better
this time. It's only three or four, so you can
probably figure it out. And this time the beers were great,

(26:46):
really good, and I had one that was had some
kind of a peach profile and it was not to
The peach was perfect. It was really tasty. So this
just we're really lucky and can't well. I'm sure around
the nation you know this phenomen the phenomenon of craft
breweries and breweries that you can go to and have
a tasty brew and people are dedicated to you know,

(27:09):
they're they're like artists. Really, that's true.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
I'm sure there's a lot of places, but every place
that has a brewery scene like we have is a
cool place. And Kansas City used to not be a
cool place, right, You did not have this twenty years
ago when I moved to this town. You didn't have this.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I mean it was you know, Boulevard Wheat was considered
to be like some kind of a breakthrough well, and
Boulevard would be your craft beer, that would be the
what you could get.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
But having Boulevard here, Say what you will about Boulevard's beer,
but having them here I think created a situation where
this was a brewery town.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Right right. I think, pop people, Well, I think.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
How many employees do you think that worked at Boulevard
learned how to brew beer, right, and then went out
and started a brewery right right?

Speaker 2 (27:57):
And I think also there are other people who, maybe
like me, aren't the biggest fans of Boulevard. Like you say,
Boulevard is important, no matter what, important to our city,
important to the craft beer development in our city. So
maybe they also thought, you know what, I think I
can do better. Yes, yeah, And a lot of people

(28:19):
have done well before.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
John sold that place. It was cool like Tank seven
is Tank seven because they messed up and screwed up
a badge in Tank number seven and then loved it
and then went back and recreated it, so like it
used to be. Maybe it still is this way. I

(28:41):
don't know, but I know that it used to be
a place where like creativity was fomented, you know what
I mean? And like and I think so you he
probably had a lot of really creative You.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Know, that was pretty impressive You used fomented when talking
about process. I'm impressed that is that is I'm impressed with.
I'm impressed with the nomenclature that you used right there.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Well, yeah, so anyway, I think that that's this is
actually a thought. I've never had this thought, but that
probably has something to do with it. Is having a
big brewer in town, a big craft brewer, allows you
to you know, create brewers that will then go out
and start all these places. It would be interesting to ask.
I'm gonna start asking that when I'm out a brewery, like,

(29:28):
how did you become a brewer? Now? We asked the
path Like guy, which, unfortunately path Like yeah has gone
out of business now. But he was just a hobbyist, right.
Remember he said he started brewing in his garage, right,
so he wasn't a boulevard guy.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
But I remember back way back in the day this
might have happened. And I don't know if the process
is like this now. My first wife almost bought me
a brewing kit for Christmas one year, and she did
not a pair of Somebody told her that if you
have it in your garage or something really stinks like
smells yeah. So I don't know if that's still the

(30:08):
case if you're trying to be a small batch brewer.
But I'm kind of glad I didn't get into the process.
I have enough hobbies.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well it would, it could have taken away from your
golf game.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Well I don't. That's that's probably should be considered a
hobby now rather than a passion. No, it's still a passion.
I like to I love to practice, and I don't
understand the vagaries of the golf game these days. Like
one thing in my golf game forever and ever and
ever has been a reliable three wood, completely reliable threewood

(30:46):
like this on the rough, just in my sleep. And
this year a third of the time I've topped him.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, I know what's bad. It's bad.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You know what. The older you get, it's an important shot, Yeah,
you especially on especially on par five.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Well that could be part of it is you're probably
hitting it more and more every year.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, I guess because you.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Won't go up in appropriate.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I never tease. I never I told you what. We
have agreed that if we play together as a team
in a league, then you will, then I will.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yes, we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, that's out. Do they have two man team leagues, Well,
then we're doing it. Yeah. Nothing I like more than
an excuse to play golf.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
And it's a good cheap one out of hoa. That's
where we're gonna play.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Okay, great, Yeah that sounds sir.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I got one more season of soccer to coach. That's
where I was tonight, Danny, we got beat again tonight
or a mash unit. Everybody's hurt and in like.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Ys getting hurt.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, I'm the pitch on the pitch. I got a
a cl M c L meniscus tearing one knee on
one kid, get a back injury on another one. I
got a broken I got a broken forearm, muscle or
bone whatever? This what is this is the I don't
know what it is me the forearm bone, our keeper

(32:13):
stopping a shot?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Oh no, And so I like hearing all of those
things better than whatever kid had a back injury. There's
no you don't want to hear any young person getting
a back injury.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
You don't want to be fooling around with that, like
it was April fools or something. Where do you think
April fools, say comes from? Danny, I have no idea
what you got to give me a guess You're never
going to get.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
It April, Well, yes, but I no, for the second time,
this podcast, usually something pops for me. I the eyes
of March and April no nothing, I got nothing.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
So in Europe in fifteen eighty two they changed the
beginning of the year from April first to January first.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
So April first was the first day. Now what was
this decision made?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Well, they changed from the Julian count.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Okay, okay, the.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Gregorian right right, and so what you know that? And
so the people who forgot they called them April fools.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Oh wow, that is you know, I've always said this,
this is a beer podcast, a goofy podcast. You can
learn some shit, isn't that me? Yes, that was one
of the neatest facts.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
The other day on Danny Unleashed on Sports Radio eight ten.
Excuse me, I said right at the end of the
show that suren gave me some lot of you know,
big laudatory comment going out, and I said, your nose
is growing like Topsy.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Right now, Yeah, I heard that. I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I looked it up right after it because I didn't
remember either. And it's in Harriet Stow's uncle Tom's cabin
and there's a character called Topsy and apparently she grows
for no reason, or it grows too much for no reason.
So that's what growing. That's where it comes from. And
I had never I immediately looked it up right after

(34:16):
I because it's something that, you know, it's a phrase
that people, I think still use reasonable amount.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I had never heard it, but I will say that
it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
We thought it's Topsy's popcorn. Here I did. That's exactly
what Well just kind of grew like Topsy Well.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
I yeah. So now in regular conversation when I hear
things like that, I'm like, oh, geez, I wonder where
that came from. And it's from this damn podcast.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's a nice thing about doing podcasts because I do
a podcast with my wife called Reconcilable Differences, and then
I do the music podcast, and literally on the yellow pad.
I am a yellow pad always around. Something will happen,
or we'll watch something, or a song will come on
the radio. And then and between those two podcasts and

(35:02):
this one, I'll be like, I'll go up and scribble
something down right away. So I don't forget.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Speaking of your wife, last time you said that she
looks a bit like Rebecca Low When you littled your
wife did she wear white at the wedding. Oh yeah, okay,
so why why she.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Looked out of this world? Fantastic? It was her first marriage.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Also, why do women wear white to be married?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well? Reds Red is sort of like this scarlet letter type.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Let me give you her some clues. How about that?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
All right?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
It used to be silver or whatever you had, Okay,
but it changed in the mid eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
They had to use silver for military products.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
That would be way more interesting than what it is.
So the queen of England at the time when she
got married, Queen Victoria married Prince.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Albert oops oops.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
And she wore a white gown instead of silver, which
was customary, and it was like a scandal. And after
that everybody wanted to be like the queen. And that
is where wearing white at a wedding came from. Like
I assumed it was religious, like it was a purity
thing or something. Never had anything to do with that.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Wow, that is cool, and that weird. Yeah, it's weird.
It eventually became a purity thing and then a joke
through times I was saying, well, why are you wearing
white at the wedding? And just a sign of virginity.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
But it never meant that, never meant that right, never
meant that, which is weird. But because like that's just
a thing that you assume because you've always heard it,
right is what it was, right, So I assumed it
was going to be something from the Bible or something.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
But anyway, So are those all are word derivations?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
That's it, buddy?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh those are good. Yes, they ain't even those even
those didn't even sound like you will be kind of
morphed into the word derivations this time around, so you know,
and I know it's not the right movie because now
the movie is running through my head and escaping. I'm
a big fan of Betty Davis. I don't you know.

(37:27):
I love Betty Davis, the actress.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
My wife's a big fan of the song Betty Davis.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Well, I'm a super big fan of the song Betty
Davis Eyes. It's one of my favorite songs ever. Why,
I just well, there's always there's a thing called milestone post,
you know, milestone syndrome, milestone post regarding songs that you
know they're a certain thing in your life. Yes, and

(37:55):
Betty Davis Eyes did come out when I worked at
the Bean factory. So I would actually sometimes go my
friend and I Rick, when I was working the night shift,
we would like go out to Clinton Lake and you know,
because I didn't start work till like three, so we'd
go out there for lunch, swim, maybe engage in some

(38:18):
yeah and Betty, and then we'd go on the way back.
It was such a you know, it was a present song.
It was number one, and so I love that song.
But what I found out at the bean factory was that,
like this first day I worked there, we had done
that and you know, so there was a little cannabis involved.

(38:41):
And so I start working at this horrendously awful job
and I'm like, you know, we're cranking it out and
I'm sweating. It's awful in there and everything. And I'm like,
and we all know, well, those of you who are
out there who are familiar would know that time goes
slowly when you are in that state. Yes, So I

(39:04):
thought I'd been at work for like, I don't know,
three hours, and I look at the clock and it's
like four to ten and I started at three. I'm like,
I'm never smoking weed before I work ever again. I
will wait till afterwards. But I love the song Betty
Davis Eyes, and my wife can't stand it, which is

(39:25):
a problem because we like to share things together.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
She doesn't like that song.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
No, she doesn't like it at all. I think it's
because of the scratchiness of Kim Carn's voice, which I
find makes the seductive, makes the song.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, I don't. I mean, I wouldn't know. What I've
heard from other people that maybe if you had a
job digging ditches or something and you were engaging in
some cannabis related activities, that it made the day go faster.
And I would say that's the case, because when you're
doing a menial task, the same thing over and over again.

(40:03):
Oh no, it allowed my friend to just it allowed
me to just like not even like understand what's going
on in the world like I think I have. When
I used to do that, I think I had a
different experience than a lot of people, because for me,
it was like the whole world didn't exist except the

(40:26):
thing right in front of my face, and I think
it's my ADHD and so like for the first time ever,
like there was just one thing to concentrate on. There
weren't a thousand barns, a light coming out of my brain.
So I'm digging this trench, and like it would be
like lunchtime and they'd be like, hey, break time, lunchtime.
I'd be like, we just started the way.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I wish that happened for me. That would have made
the bean factory a lot better. It was the exact opposite, Danny.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
The bean factory is such a seminal moment in your life.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
It is a seminal moment, like you would be a
different person. There's no question about if I hadn't worked.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
At that damn bean factory, no doubt about it. I
think it ruined you on work, honestly.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
No, No, it created an unbelievable work ethic in me.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yes, but it made you like think, I don't know,
I feel like it made you think that like.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
You didn't work there.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
I just look, I worked in a effing aluminum polishing
plant where it was one hundred and ten degrees in there.
We had to get on boiling hot tables and polish aluminum.
I think that it made you worse.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Mine was worse.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Oh. I think the bean factory was certainly worse because
I just imagine what it smelled like.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Actually, it was a sickly sweet kind of smell. Yeah, gross,
Ah what that that was the least of my worries there.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Ola factory kind of guy. There's a word for you.
Like smells matter to me, Like nothing triggers a memory
like a smell to me. And so like when I
smell hot aluminum and it does have a smell, like
if I'm in a warehouse, right and it stores, like
we roofed a thing for a place that does what

(42:11):
I used to do, and I walked in that place
and I was instantly transported back to Alcoa in Hutchinson came.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I'm sure that job sucked. I mean, I'm not trying
to downplay the suckiness of your job. I mean there's
no doubt about you know. For instance, I just really
made a big sacrifice in my own life because my
wife wanted me to go work with a personal trainer

(42:41):
because she hates my posture. Yeah, I am, it is terrible,
but it almost immediately is better. It's gotten better better
anyway among the and really my motivation in this, in
most of these things as I grow older, is to
hit the goal ball further. She wants me to do
a lot of strength work, so I am doing a

(43:02):
lot of upper body strength work, and I do it
every other day alone myself, and then I do it
when you know, with a personal trainer. It works once
a week. It works extra good because she's a real
ass kicker. Although I will say some of the stereotypical
did you feel the burn, I'm like.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Suck it. She says that.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Oh yeah, she says, did you feel that burn? And
I'm like, really, well, yeah, I do. Well, she's right,
but it sounds like Saturday Night Live or something, did
you fail do burn? So but anyway, she wants me
to drink protein shakes, and I drank protein shakes for
survival during.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Because it was cheap, no.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
During my radiation table, and I vowed when I finished
that I was never going to have one more protein
shake for the rest of my life. And I am
now I'm drinking a protein shake once a day.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I overcame that horror. Well it's not even it was weirdo.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
And you drink coffee. You could just put the protein
in the coffee, and that's an easy way to mask. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I don't drink coffee, so that's that's that's actually good.
Joe would know from being a good friend of mine.
I have a reasonably compulsive personality. I tend to do
I work out every day. I do a lot of
things every day. I have a nice routine. Whatever, and
if I if I I've said it before, I'm so

(44:28):
glad I didn't start drinking coffee. I would almost assuredly
had been had to be somebody who would have to
have had to quit drinking coffee, because I probably would
have drank a lot of coffee.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
I'm going to Texas for this trip, this fishing trip.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
So this is what you're guy. I didn't even know
you said you were a d I didn't even know
what you were doing.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I forgot about it.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Gone fishing.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
It's for work. I'm not. It's a corporate I'm not
the best fisherman, and I don't enjoy it all that much,
but it's gonna be And you're.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Right, so you like some of the things surrounding it.
I've I think I've gone gone fishing twice.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not a fisherman. I do
like love the outdoors, but I'm more of a hiker
and a bird hunter than I am a fisherman. Right, Well,
we're fishing the flats south of Corpus Christie. So apparently
the ocean's like four foot deep for miles and so
we're going out.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
That is a cool area.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, so you can like see the fish and everything,
and so.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
So you're sort of fly fishing in the ocean sort of. Yeah,
that sounds pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
It seems neat, except I'm very concerned about the coffee situation, because, uh,
why is that. I don't think there's gonna be There's
probably not going to be espresso there, and that is
what I drink.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Oh, and you're do you think you're gonna sound what's
what's the word, bougie? Yes, if you want your expresso.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, it sounds like where's the where's the express where's
the espresso? You know, like it's not expresso, you said expresso,
it's espresso, But anyway, like, where's the espresso at? I see.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
That's how little I know about co.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
My three shots to get my day started, you know,
And so I'm a little concerned. But I do have
a travel espresso machine. You do, but I left it
trip and so I don't have it. Doesn't mean when
are you leaving even Monday morning? Remember, folks, were taping

(46:32):
last Thurday, last Saturday.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yes, you would listen to this. So if you really
really were dedicated to this espresso machine, you would drive
there getting just purchasing, you know what. That's that's the
world we live in now. That is you can just
I can't. I worded something on Amazon the other day.
I didn't really care if it got there, and three

(46:56):
days or five days or whatever, he said, you can
get this today. Yeah, like what?

Speaker 3 (47:03):
And you you you you know a thing or two
about Amazon. I feel I do. I feel unfortunate for
those folks. Oh, like I ordered this at ten o'clock
in the morning. I don't need this shampoo at two
this afternoon. You don't you drive from Gardner to bring
me this bottle of shampoo? Like it's wild.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
It's absolutely wild. I mean it's to our benefit. If
we all had slightly more moral scruples, we probably would
just not purchase things from Amazon. But you know, it's
just like a lot of things, so you may compromises
to your intakeery.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Listen, I need my shampoo, but you.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Could get your travel espresso machine.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
They could. I could drive to Target or something and
then do that. I've thought about it. I've considered it,
but I'm thinking to myself, Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
The brisk sea air will will provide the equivalent.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
No, it won't make the lack of caffeine headache go away,
which is what you would be dealing with if.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You were a drink diet coke for years and years
and I never and when I stopped, I never had
I didn't have. People always would always say I just
quit because I didn't care.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
You were a diet coke drinker.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Oh yeah, this track forever in a day.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Oh this tracks.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
But I didn't drink that many. And also I never
even noticed the caffeine boost.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
You know who else is a diet coke drinker? Pat Sayjack?
You know what he has for breakfast every day? Diet
coke a diet cocin of Snickers. Wow, and look at him.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Well, I quit. I quit, And then when I got cancer,
I had to because I need bubbly drinks.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Why did you quit?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Because I went to my parents' house one time and
they didn't have any diet coke and I started drinking
you know, crystal light, that's what they had. I was like,
you know, I don't really People say the diet coke's
not that good for you, and you know, I don't
really care, so I just stopped and I was completely
I hadn't had one in probably four years or something,

(49:13):
and then then I got cancer and I don't have
a salivary gland, so I need bubbly drinks?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Are you back on the diet? Coke now?

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Coke zero?

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Really?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I drink coke zero.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I can't believe you drink soda.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Well, it's it's it really is.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Isn't that beneath a man like you to be drinking soda?

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Not when you wake up in the middle of the
night and your mouth is like the you know, hobby desert.
I don't have a salivary gland.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
So are you drinking dit coke in the middle of
the night.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I take a sip because I wake up and it
is literally like I have eaten sand?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
No, And why is the bubbly well?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Because just water is not good enough because she kind
of got gunk. You know, it's it's yeah, I know
nobody wants to hear this. It's really a utilitarian thing.
Maybe on this gunky note, we should vow to somehow
be here again in two weeks.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, let's do it. Let's try it well, we can
vow all we want.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
I'm gonna make it happen.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
But hopefully we will be back in just two weeks,
not for for another tasty, delicious, and unbelievably informative and
historical edition of Thirsty Thursday's Sense and Nonsense.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
So we hope you enjoyed the latest Danny Klinkscale reasonably
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CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.

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