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Jordan discusses the recent case of Troy Nokes, a NJ man charged with the manslaughter of his 12 year old nephew. The case serves as a springboard for Jordan to launch into a PSA regarding the misinformation surrounding the fentanyl epidemic.
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John Oliver's Last Week Tonight episode: https://youtu.be/RMpCGD7b_H4
People's article on Troy Nokes: https://people.com/crime/new-jersey-man-arrested-nephew-12-dies-fentanyl-overdose-cleaning-drug-paraphernalia/
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Jordan discusses the recent case of Troy Nokes, a NJ man charged with the manslaughter of his 12 year old nephew. The case serves as a springboard for Jordan to launch into a PSA regarding the misinformation surrounding the fentanyl epidemic.
Music by Bruno E.
John Oliver's Last Week Tonight episode: https://youtu.be/RMpCGD7b_H4
People's article on Troy Nokes: https://people.com/crime/new-jersey-man-arrested-nephew-12-dies-fentanyl-overdose-cleaning-drug-paraphernalia/
To support Dark Dark World: http://www.patreon.com/darkdarkworld
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Twitter: @darkworldpod
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(00:04):
What's up YouTube? Jordyc here backwith another video. I'm in the car.
It's time for some drivetime true crime. Well I say that, but
what I thought I was going tobring to you is not necessarily what I'm
going to bring to you really.Now it's sort of taken on a life
(00:24):
of its own. It's more ofa PSA, a public service announcement.
But first of all, how areyou? How is everyone doing out there?
I'm doing well. It's a lovelyday here in a z The sun
is setting now. I hope that'snot messing up the light too badly.
But I'll try and keep this quickanyway. But yeah, I hope you're
all doing well. As I say, I am got a lot of irons
(00:48):
in the fire right now. WithDark Dark World. I've got a narrative
episode on the murder of Ricky Cowell'sjunior that's going to be coming out next.
We've got Bad Vegan coming through thePipeline World episode. There so lots
to look forward to from the DarkDark World. But today, today,
here and now, some drivetime truecrime for you. And I say that
(01:11):
is sort of a bit of amisnomber at this point. Why why is
that well, as I say,it's kind of going to be a public
service announcement, and that is reallythat fentanyl is not as strong as you're
being led to believe. It's justit's just not as powerful as you think
it is. And for me toexplain that though, I think I am
(01:34):
going to have to back up alittle bit and start with the article that
I was going to bring you today. Just as Drivetime True Crime, this
comes to us from Abigail Adams,very sort of traditional Salem witch trials kind
of name right, Abigail Adams forpeople True Crime. A New Jersey man
(01:56):
has been charged with first degree aggravatedmanslaughter and a host of other charges after
his twelve year old nephew overdosed onfentanyl and later died. Troy Noakes,
thirty five, of Blackwood, wasarrested nearly two months after the boy was
found unresponsive on his school of us. The boy was taken to a nearby
(02:19):
hospital, where he succumbed to hisinjuries on February first. The City of
Philadelphia of Medical Examiner's Office. Bythe way, does anyone know why would
the City of Philadelphia be dealing withsomething in New Jersey? Is there of
Philadelphia, New Jersey or is itjust because everything's so close together over there
on the East coast. Let meknow, let me know in the comments.
(02:42):
But the City of Philadelphia Medical Examiner'soffice has determined that the boy died
from drug intoxication, specifically fentanyl.Now Troy Knakes is accused of manufacturing fentanyl
at his nephew's Blackwood home the weekendbefore his death. According to authorities,
God, that's a bad sentence.I still am just so impressed that some
(03:05):
of these people get writing jobs.People magazine. If you need a true
crime writer, hit me up.I can do a much better job.
No offense, Abigail, just saying, really bad sentence. The uncle allegedly
directed his nephew to clean paraphernalia thatcontained fentyl, and witnesses told investigators that
(03:28):
the boy was not wearing gloves whenhe did so. In addition to first
degree aggravated manslaughter, Troy Noakes ischarged with strict liability drug induced death,
maintaining a CDs production facility, CDsbeing controlled dangerous substance, employing a juvenile,
and a drug distribution scheme in dangeringthe welfare of a child. Witness
(03:52):
tampering, tampering with evidence, hinderingapprehension, aggravated assault, and seven other
related offenses. Seventh more in additionto all that, while hindering apprehension is
funny, Like, I know whatthey're saying. He was hindering his own
apprehension. He was making it difficultfor them to apprehend him. But the
(04:14):
way that you know, hindering apprehension. I wanted to go to the party,
but I had a hindering apprehension,so I wasn't able to go.
I like that. Joanna Johnson,Joanna Johnson, Danian Anna, Now you
don't care nothing about me. Shoutout to those who have been with us
long enough, have been listening tome and the ed men in our talks.
(04:40):
You'll know what that's about. Anyway. Joanna Johnson. Noakes's ex girlfriend
was also arrested on Monday for allegedlytampering with evidence and hindering Noakes's apprehension by
police. Is that hindering apprehension again? Johnson and Noakes are being held at
Camden County Correctional Facility ahead of apre trial detention hearing. An investigation is
(05:01):
ongoing now. Pretty heavy duty stuff. Hey. I mentioned this article to
my father on Sunday, I guessit was or Monday, and I told
him that I was going to dothis. He said, whoa, whoa,
whoa. You gotta watch this JohnOliver thing from last week tonight.
(05:23):
He just debunked all this stuff.And I said one. He said,
yeah, you gotta check it out. So shout out to dad. By
the way, Dad's going to bedoing Bad Vegan with me, so you'll
be able to meet the legend,the man himself, Jackson Cactus Jack.
Shout out Dad anyway. Yeah,So he says, you gotta check this
(05:46):
out. So I did. Checkedout the John Oliver and that is yeah,
last week tonight with John Oliver.So I'm going to leave a link
in the description so you can watchthat. You can actually watch the full
clip on YouTube. He's got itup there now. And thank you John
Oliver. Thank you John Oliver andanyone else who is debunking this stuff.
(06:09):
Because I always you know, obviouslyI was going to report this story to
you as just like, wow,this is crazy, right. I guess
Fenton All really is a motherfucker becauseI was resistant for a long time to
that idea. Because you know,when it first sort of exploded onto the
scene, right, you heard allthese little radio announcements or solidtle commercials or
(06:33):
flyers that would have a picture ofa tiny morsel of a fentanyl next to
a massive amount of heroine. Itwas like, just this much fentanyl is
equal to this much heroine, andthis much fenton al can kill you instantly.
Right. So I was like,Wow, that seems ridiculous, because
(06:54):
it's just it's so hard to getthat much of a punch packed into something
that tie any unless you're you know, Walter White with the ricin or something.
But you know what I'm saying,it's just like even ant trax,
there has to be an amount.Anyway, I kind of thought it was
bs when it first came out,But then you just start hearing all of
these stories like this one today,or a lot of stories perpetuated by law
(07:18):
enforcements saying that they came in contactwith someone who had fentyl and then one
of the officers overdose. You seethat stuff all the time, right,
And John Oliver talks about that alot in the episode as well. But
yeah, I always kind of thoughtit was bullshit. I don't know,
if it depends who you are,how well you know this channel, or
if you listen to the podcast aswell. I've talked some about my history.
(07:42):
If you don't know, I ama recovered opiate addict. Recovering opiate
addict. Heroin was my thing.Fentanyl did not. It was around,
obviously, but it did not blowup like I had gotten out of the
game right before fentonyl craze. Butwe but I did have fentonyl. We
(08:03):
used to get those patches that theygive you in the hospital, like for
cancer patients, that you slap onthere like a nicotine patch, and then
the fenonyl slowly releases over time intoyour body. Well, we didn't want
slow release, right, So whatwe did was we bite into the packets,
the little packet that's on the patch, bite into it and just suck
(08:24):
out the fenonyl out the liquid.Right, and here I am. I
was fine. But after again,after you know, years and years gone
by and hearing stories like this,I go, well, I guess maybe
nothing happened to me because I wasopioid tolerant from the hermine, from whatever
else I was doing, right,But no, no, it turns out
(08:46):
that it is bullshit, And listen, I don't want to say. Look,
let's be clear, fenceonyl is extremelypotent and extremely dangerous. That's not
what I'm saying that. I'm notsaying that. It's not It's just this
idea that just being in proximity tofentanyl, touching fentanyl without gloves, you
(09:07):
know, that's not going to giveyou an overdose. You're you're not even
gonna feel effects, let alone overdose. So that's the point that I'm getting
at. But absolutely fentanyl is dangerous. Right, I've got some quotes here.
Synthetic opioids, which fentanyl is,is the king of the synthetic opioids,
is represented responsible for two thirds ofall overdose deaths in the United States.
(09:33):
That's massive, but that's for peopleingesting it again, shooting it up,
or so. There are the twomain ways that you o d from
fentanyl, right. One, Somuch of it is coming from the street
drugs, the street fentanyl that isbeing made in these labs, like these
CDs labs like Troy and Noaks here, So you don't know exactly what you're
(09:56):
getting. So maybe you know you'retaking fentanyl like you're taking some heroin,
cut with fentanyl, but you don'tknow the potency. You don't know if
Troy Noakes made it or some otherguy made it, and you don't know
what the ratios are. That's away you can overdose. Or you don't
even know you're taking fentyl because they'repressing pills. They're pressing like perks.
You think you're taking a Perko set, but it's actually one hundred percent fentyl
(10:18):
and the difference is staggering. Souod right, But the rest of it,
the rest of it is all justhysteria. And this is nothing new,
right, So the past is thebest predictor of the future, or
the best predictor of the future isthe past. I guess it's the same
(10:41):
thing. And we've seen this right. The big one, of course is
crack in the eighties, the superdrug thing. Right, when these drugs
come onto the scene, they blowup onto the scene, they're a super
drug and they're super dangerous. Andthe same with crack. This much can
kill you, just this much andyou'll be dead. Right, We've seen
(11:03):
that same thing even with marijuana actually, like in the forties and the fifties,
reefer madness, this drug that's destroyingour youth. Just this much marijuana
can end your life. Seen itall before, totally crocodile or crocodile shout
out to those who remember that.If you know you know, so,
(11:26):
yeah, totally seen it before,and it's it's been debunked. And I'm
so glad that we can have somedefinitive sources we can turn to. Here.
In the Last Week Tonight episode,John Old quotes from a CBS News
report where experts say, quote,it is technically impossible to touch fentinyl powder
(11:46):
and feel any effects of it,let alone overdose end quote. Yeah that
tracks for me, right, Soit makes it absolutely laughable when you see
these stories now of police suiting upin has matt gear to approach a car
(12:07):
that they think has fentanyl in it, or stories of cops that have said,
like, oh, I had toI was having an overdose, so
I had to give myself narcan.Look good. Rule of thumb. If
you're able to give yourself narcan,you don't need narcan. That's simple.
So what is happening though, Jordan? Because I saw I saw an officer
(12:31):
go into an overdose just seconds afterhe was looking through someone's backpacked and found
fentanyl. I don't know. I'mnot sure what's going on with that.
I don't know if it's he hassome sort of panic attack or you know,
the terror, the fear, thehysteria about fentanyl is making him so
(12:52):
frightened, heart racing, freaked out. Oh my god, I've touched fentanyl.
Oh my god, it's like anthrax. Someone mailed me anthrax. It's
the same kind of thing. Thispowder is here. Oh my god,
oh fat at all. I touchedit. I don't know. I don't
know if that's going on. Ican't explain it. All I can tell
you, although the experts can tellus, is that that's not possible.
(13:13):
So maybe these cops. I don'tknow. I really don't know what it
is. It's also just very funnyshout out to my friend dill And who
mentioned, like so many of thesecops suiting up in these suits and putting
on the gloves and the booties andthe mask and going for the backpack.
So many of these cops, thesame cops who wouldn't wear a mask during
(13:35):
the pandemic. Very funny shout out, Dell. But yeah, that's all
I've got really for you. Justthat and all. It's not as powerful
as you think it is. Thelink to the John Oliver video is down
in the description. He's a moreeloquent speaker than I am. He's funnier
to check that out. I dorecommend it. I'll also put the links
(13:56):
to the article in here and everythingelse. Check out the podcast if you
haven't, please like subscribe if you'renew all that jazz. It's been great
talking at you. I've been joinedCrittenden for Dark Dark World
What's up YouTube? Jordyc here backwith another video. I'm in the car.
It's time for some drivetime true crime. Well I say that, but
what I thought I was going tobring to you is not necessarily what I'm
going to bring to you really.Now it's sort of taken on a life
(00:24):
of its own. It's more ofa PSA, a public service announcement.
But first of all, how areyou? How is everyone doing out there?
I'm doing well. It's a lovelyday here in a z The sun
is setting now. I hope that'snot messing up the light too badly.
But I'll try and keep this quickanyway. But yeah, I hope you're
all doing well. As I say, I am got a lot of irons
(00:48):
in the fire right now. WithDark Dark World. I've got a narrative
episode on the murder of Ricky Cowell'sjunior that's going to be coming out next.
We've got Bad Vegan coming through thePipeline World episode. There so lots
to look forward to from the DarkDark World. But today, today,
here and now, some drivetime truecrime for you. And I say that
(01:11):
is sort of a bit of amisnomber at this point. Why why is
that well, as I say,it's kind of going to be a public
service announcement, and that is reallythat fentanyl is not as strong as you're
being led to believe. It's justit's just not as powerful as you think
it is. And for me toexplain that though, I think I am
(01:34):
going to have to back up alittle bit and start with the article that
I was going to bring you today. Just as Drivetime True Crime, this
comes to us from Abigail Adams,very sort of traditional Salem witch trials kind
of name right, Abigail Adams forpeople True Crime. A New Jersey man
(01:56):
has been charged with first degree aggravatedmanslaughter and a host of other charges after
his twelve year old nephew overdosed onfentanyl and later died. Troy Noakes,
thirty five, of Blackwood, wasarrested nearly two months after the boy was
found unresponsive on his school of us. The boy was taken to a nearby
(02:19):
hospital, where he succumbed to hisinjuries on February first. The City of
Philadelphia of Medical Examiner's Office. Bythe way, does anyone know why would
the City of Philadelphia be dealing withsomething in New Jersey? Is there of
Philadelphia, New Jersey or is itjust because everything's so close together over there
on the East coast. Let meknow, let me know in the comments.
(02:42):
But the City of Philadelphia Medical Examiner'soffice has determined that the boy died
from drug intoxication, specifically fentanyl.Now Troy Knakes is accused of manufacturing fentanyl
at his nephew's Blackwood home the weekendbefore his death. According to authorities,
God, that's a bad sentence.I still am just so impressed that some
(03:05):
of these people get writing jobs.People magazine. If you need a true
crime writer, hit me up.I can do a much better job.
No offense, Abigail, just saying, really bad sentence. The uncle allegedly
directed his nephew to clean paraphernalia thatcontained fentyl, and witnesses told investigators that
(03:28):
the boy was not wearing gloves whenhe did so. In addition to first
degree aggravated manslaughter, Troy Noakes ischarged with strict liability drug induced death,
maintaining a CDs production facility, CDsbeing controlled dangerous substance, employing a juvenile,
and a drug distribution scheme in dangeringthe welfare of a child. Witness
(03:52):
tampering, tampering with evidence, hinderingapprehension, aggravated assault, and seven other
related offenses. Seventh more in additionto all that, while hindering apprehension is
funny, Like, I know whatthey're saying. He was hindering his own
apprehension. He was making it difficultfor them to apprehend him. But the
(04:14):
way that you know, hindering apprehension. I wanted to go to the party,
but I had a hindering apprehension,so I wasn't able to go.
I like that. Joanna Johnson,Joanna Johnson, Danian Anna, Now you
don't care nothing about me. Shoutout to those who have been with us
long enough, have been listening tome and the ed men in our talks.
(04:40):
You'll know what that's about. Anyway. Joanna Johnson. Noakes's ex girlfriend
was also arrested on Monday for allegedlytampering with evidence and hindering Noakes's apprehension by
police. Is that hindering apprehension again? Johnson and Noakes are being held at
Camden County Correctional Facility ahead of apre trial detention hearing. An investigation is
(05:01):
ongoing now. Pretty heavy duty stuff. Hey. I mentioned this article to
my father on Sunday, I guessit was or Monday, and I told
him that I was going to dothis. He said, whoa, whoa,
whoa. You gotta watch this JohnOliver thing from last week tonight.
(05:23):
He just debunked all this stuff.And I said one. He said,
yeah, you gotta check it out. So shout out to dad. By
the way, Dad's going to bedoing Bad Vegan with me, so you'll
be able to meet the legend,the man himself, Jackson Cactus Jack.
Shout out Dad anyway. Yeah,So he says, you gotta check this
(05:46):
out. So I did. Checkedout the John Oliver and that is yeah,
last week tonight with John Oliver.So I'm going to leave a link
in the description so you can watchthat. You can actually watch the full
clip on YouTube. He's got itup there now. And thank you John
Oliver. Thank you John Oliver andanyone else who is debunking this stuff.
(06:09):
Because I always you know, obviouslyI was going to report this story to
you as just like, wow,this is crazy, right. I guess
Fenton All really is a motherfucker becauseI was resistant for a long time to
that idea. Because you know,when it first sort of exploded onto the
scene, right, you heard allthese little radio announcements or solidtle commercials or
(06:33):
flyers that would have a picture ofa tiny morsel of a fentanyl next to
a massive amount of heroine. Itwas like, just this much fentanyl is
equal to this much heroine, andthis much fenton al can kill you instantly.
Right. So I was like,Wow, that seems ridiculous, because
(06:54):
it's just it's so hard to getthat much of a punch packed into something
that tie any unless you're you know, Walter White with the ricin or something.
But you know what I'm saying,it's just like even ant trax,
there has to be an amount.Anyway, I kind of thought it was
bs when it first came out,But then you just start hearing all of
these stories like this one today,or a lot of stories perpetuated by law
(07:18):
enforcements saying that they came in contactwith someone who had fentyl and then one
of the officers overdose. You seethat stuff all the time, right,
And John Oliver talks about that alot in the episode as well. But
yeah, I always kind of thoughtit was bullshit. I don't know,
if it depends who you are,how well you know this channel, or
if you listen to the podcast aswell. I've talked some about my history.
(07:42):
If you don't know, I ama recovered opiate addict. Recovering opiate
addict. Heroin was my thing.Fentanyl did not. It was around,
obviously, but it did not blowup like I had gotten out of the
game right before fentonyl craze. Butwe but I did have fentonyl. We
(08:03):
used to get those patches that theygive you in the hospital, like for
cancer patients, that you slap onthere like a nicotine patch, and then
the fenonyl slowly releases over time intoyour body. Well, we didn't want
slow release, right, So whatwe did was we bite into the packets,
the little packet that's on the patch, bite into it and just suck
(08:24):
out the fenonyl out the liquid.Right, and here I am. I
was fine. But after again,after you know, years and years gone
by and hearing stories like this,I go, well, I guess maybe
nothing happened to me because I wasopioid tolerant from the hermine, from whatever
else I was doing, right,But no, no, it turns out
(08:46):
that it is bullshit, And listen, I don't want to say. Look,
let's be clear, fenceonyl is extremelypotent and extremely dangerous. That's not
what I'm saying that. I'm notsaying that. It's not It's just this
idea that just being in proximity tofentanyl, touching fentanyl without gloves, you
(09:07):
know, that's not going to giveyou an overdose. You're you're not even
gonna feel effects, let alone overdose. So that's the point that I'm getting
at. But absolutely fentanyl is dangerous. Right, I've got some quotes here.
Synthetic opioids, which fentanyl is,is the king of the synthetic opioids,
is represented responsible for two thirds ofall overdose deaths in the United States.
(09:33):
That's massive, but that's for peopleingesting it again, shooting it up,
or so. There are the twomain ways that you o d from
fentanyl, right. One, Somuch of it is coming from the street
drugs, the street fentanyl that isbeing made in these labs, like these
CDs labs like Troy and Noaks here, So you don't know exactly what you're
(09:56):
getting. So maybe you know you'retaking fentanyl like you're taking some heroin,
cut with fentanyl, but you don'tknow the potency. You don't know if
Troy Noakes made it or some otherguy made it, and you don't know
what the ratios are. That's away you can overdose. Or you don't
even know you're taking fentyl because they'repressing pills. They're pressing like perks.
You think you're taking a Perko set, but it's actually one hundred percent fentyl
(10:18):
and the difference is staggering. Souod right, But the rest of it,
the rest of it is all justhysteria. And this is nothing new,
right, So the past is thebest predictor of the future, or
the best predictor of the future isthe past. I guess it's the same
(10:41):
thing. And we've seen this right. The big one, of course is
crack in the eighties, the superdrug thing. Right, when these drugs
come onto the scene, they blowup onto the scene, they're a super
drug and they're super dangerous. Andthe same with crack. This much can
kill you, just this much andyou'll be dead. Right, We've seen
(11:03):
that same thing even with marijuana actually, like in the forties and the fifties,
reefer madness, this drug that's destroyingour youth. Just this much marijuana
can end your life. Seen itall before, totally crocodile or crocodile shout
out to those who remember that.If you know you know, so,
(11:26):
yeah, totally seen it before,and it's it's been debunked. And I'm
so glad that we can have somedefinitive sources we can turn to. Here.
In the Last Week Tonight episode,John Old quotes from a CBS News
report where experts say, quote,it is technically impossible to touch fentinyl powder
(11:46):
and feel any effects of it,let alone overdose end quote. Yeah that
tracks for me, right, Soit makes it absolutely laughable when you see
these stories now of police suiting upin has matt gear to approach a car
(12:07):
that they think has fentanyl in it, or stories of cops that have said,
like, oh, I had toI was having an overdose, so
I had to give myself narcan.Look good. Rule of thumb. If
you're able to give yourself narcan,you don't need narcan. That's simple.
So what is happening though, Jordan? Because I saw I saw an officer
(12:31):
go into an overdose just seconds afterhe was looking through someone's backpacked and found
fentanyl. I don't know. I'mnot sure what's going on with that.
I don't know if it's he hassome sort of panic attack or you know,
the terror, the fear, thehysteria about fentanyl is making him so
(12:52):
frightened, heart racing, freaked out. Oh my god, I've touched fentanyl.
Oh my god, it's like anthrax. Someone mailed me anthrax. It's
the same kind of thing. Thispowder is here. Oh my god,
oh fat at all. I touchedit. I don't know. I don't
know if that's going on. Ican't explain it. All I can tell
you, although the experts can tellus, is that that's not possible.
(13:13):
So maybe these cops. I don'tknow. I really don't know what it
is. It's also just very funnyshout out to my friend dill And who
mentioned, like so many of thesecops suiting up in these suits and putting
on the gloves and the booties andthe mask and going for the backpack.
So many of these cops, thesame cops who wouldn't wear a mask during
(13:35):
the pandemic. Very funny shout out, Dell. But yeah, that's all
I've got really for you. Justthat and all. It's not as powerful
as you think it is. Thelink to the John Oliver video is down
in the description. He's a moreeloquent speaker than I am. He's funnier
to check that out. I dorecommend it. I'll also put the links
(13:56):
to the article in here and everythingelse. Check out the podcast if you
haven't, please like subscribe if you'renew all that jazz. It's been great
talking at you. I've been joinedCrittenden for Dark Dark World
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