March 28, 2025 • 50 mins
In August 2022 Steve Hevican visited St Michaels Church in Pelsall to visit the grave of his Mother. On the journey home as Steve was travelling in the car he saw two strange creatures in a field adjacent to Lime Lane.
Steve has experienced the Supernatural from being a small boy but a visit to Cannock Chase in Jan 2018 led to some really concerning behaviour around his home. Listen as Steve explains his experiences with me in an indepth interview.
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Steve has experienced the Supernatural from being a small boy but a visit to Cannock Chase in Jan 2018 led to some really concerning behaviour around his home. Listen as Steve explains his experiences with me in an indepth interview.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello everybody. Today I am sharing with you the experiences
of Steve Heavican. I've been in touch with Steve for
quite a long time now. I've three shared an event
with me that happened to him when he visited Canic Chase.
After that visit, there were several interactions getting closer and
closer to his home. No things after that spilled out
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into his children's homes as well. He's experienced things when
he's been with his family, and he's experienced things when
he's been on his own. So he kindly sat down
and sent me a series of voice messages so I
was able to document his experiences to save them for prosperity.
And I'm sure you will enjoy listening to them as
I did putting them together. Like I say, I've known
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him for a very long time. He's a very honest man,
really likable chap and he's always up for speaking with
other people who've going to experience his life his own.
So hap us to listen to what Sea has to
tell us, and then I'll catch it with you at
the end and I'll add my thoughts and theories on that.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Debru Monday, the twenty ninth of August just gone. We
gone to the cemetery in Persil to turn on some
flowers because it was a twenty night when she passed
away last year. And so there we are on one
day at the cemetery. We're coming back. We popped my sister.
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We got to the cemetery quite laze. I think it
was after six ish, between six and half pert something
like death. And then by the time I think we
were left from our sister somewhere between bed eight eight
pm and eight forty five pm something like that, I
was still fairly lightish, although the sun was going down,
and we were coming back on that main road. I
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can't remember what the actual name of that main road is,
but I took a picture and I was reading back
towards Ethays. On the right hand side, there's like a
field where the farm has been putting the making the
hay bales, you know, and the stacks quite high, you know,
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and on BALSI is the sort of low woids because
it's really dark when you pass that field, and I've
always felt like a bit of a spooky It's probably
because it's dark, you know, and if you walk in
along there late, which I've done a couple of times
it's you feel quite apprehensive and you you'd like to
get through that area anyway, it's my amazement. As we
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were coming on the road, my son in lower Down
was driving. There was myself in the front passenger seats,
and there was my daughter Summer Dan's partner on the
same side as a driver, you know, in the back seat,
and then my granddaughter Angel and then my granddaughter Daisy
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or so anyway, coming on that main road, to my astonishment,
on the rise, looking across the field, I see these
two figures and I was trying to make sense of
what I was seeing. It was like, but it was
like two figures on all fours. They're seen quite long.
Whether there were horses, but something was telling me that
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there wasn't horses. You know, It's really strange. And as
we were going along and I was opening there are
other people in the car had seen what I've seen,
and I got to be honest, I know, he SAIDs
absolutely ridiculous. But for all the world, I could be
a mistake. You know, I don't know. Aren't checked so
whether there's any horses about, But it seems strange to
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me to have a couple of horses in the field,
if it was with all these hay bales, you know,
because you wouldn't think a farmer would do that because
the horses are going to be eating the profits. But
they seem just really long, and it was really weird
and whatever these creatures were sort of stood up. I
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hate to think I told it been, you know, quite
quite high, quite tall. But so it's just running through
my head like giant walls, you know. And it was
like and I was a ridiculous thing to think, but
that's what I was like. And you know, your brain
tries to make sense of things, and I was like,
what what? And I was hoping that someone else in
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the car would have seen something, but we were driven
passed by at that point, and I said, did anybody
else in the cars? Those animals in the field just inquiring,
you know, and they were all saying, now, we didn't
see anything, we didn't look and whatever. And as I
said before, you know, got a bit apprehensive about like
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exploring too much because of like my first experience that
I told you about that you recorded, and I didn't
I couldn't see what was making the actual noise those
years ago. I'll tell you what. It was just really astonishing.
And these two creatures, whatever they were, seemed to be
like there wasn't moving quick. They were just like moving
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along quite steady, you know, but heading for the trees.
The one was slightly in front of the other. You
know now that that particular stretch of woods there, when
I've gone past it before, I've seen signs saying private property,
private woods, keep out, you know that kind of thing.
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So I don't know, I don't know what's going on.
I don't know what it was. I'd love to go
and checking and confirm whether it's you know, perhaps a
couple of horses. But these animals, wherever there were, it
was really strange, and they didn't seem to have the
tails like a horse would you know, a lot of
the you know, the way the hair sort of is.
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It's seem more of a compact. So so why you'd
have a dog a lot more clumped, you know, he's
on the way I can describe it. But these were
I mean, if I say these creatures or at least
as long as the car, and perhaps as I what
the hell you know it's and because there's been reports
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of all kinds of creatures around mechanic chase areas you
know over the years, and you've got your reports, but
I'll be quite apprehensive to explore those would so I
don't know. If there's any researches in in my sort
of area, it would check you check it out. But
(06:58):
I think I want to take a couple of stuff.
Silver bullets flying so or something. It was so weird.
I don't think I asked them to turn around the
car and go back, which was I do sort of
feel about doing that, but I think part of me
was like thinking, no, no, I don't think. I don't
think so, especially because my my, my daughter and two
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grand daughters in the car. I mean, I'm opening it's
just something this explainable, some rational explanation, but I've never
seen anything like that. I've driven past overseas and fields
care of sheep, the usual stuff, you know, the tractors
and things you see and all that. But but this
was this was weird, honestly, just just something weird. Maybe
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I can see when Dan, Dan's got a bit of
free time, and whether we can drive back down that
road and perhaps get out, park up somewhere and have
a look at the field. And if I get access
to the field. Maybe I can have blocks there's any
any horses or or even get some possibility of seeing
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any tracks.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So I asked Steve if he could tell me the
exact area where he saw the two creatures in the field.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I was coming down that road, the B four one
five four. We just come over the canal bridge from
Pelsa and we come out of the bridge and we
were coming up at the bottom of the pitch. You
can see like a farm farmhouses on the rise. So
we were going up past there and the farm buildings
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on the rise, and we were going up up in
that direction, traveling up the picture, and not the greenish
looking field that's immediately above the farmhouse, but the next
field along the next field up this was the straw
colored field right by the edge of the wood. It
was that field. And as we were coming along that
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road and the edge row was at the right high
for me to see across that field, and it's had
the big round bales of I'll say, hey, I don't
really say, or straw orhe everything I don't now. And
about a third of the way from the road into
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the field, and probably about two thirds of the way
you know, from where the age row is of that
field at the bottom of that colored sandy colored straw
colored field, heading towards the woods with these two big giants.
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What I think would giant were wolf? I'll say were
wolf because I mean, that's the only thing you can
think of, you know, let's do the movies and there,
I'll say wolf like. I mean, that's a bit more neutralism.
Giant wolf like type cree and that particular wood there
has got it. I've always had a funny feeling as
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I walked past there. When I walk past there in
the past, it feels kind of real and spooky. I'm
not sure whether it's because it's like the trees are
like tear over the roads and they grow over there
and it'll be so it's been more darker and gloomy
and that, you know, I don't know which always feels.
I've always had a sense of unease as I've walked
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past there in the past. But there are signs there
of like you know, people keep out, you know, all
that kind of stuff. I can't remember the exact wording
on the signs signs, And but these two creatures just
noncunately walking across there as they only got a care
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in the world. And that sort of movement that you
you're described as like a slinky movement, and I said, yeah,
that's banged on, say exactly like where it's like almoles
sort of cat like really, but there wasn't cats, the
wolf like And that's why I said, i'd eye to
be pressured into going into those woods. He would. I mean,
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he put me off just going out into the local
field down by me, because it's not too far from
where I leave these, you know, any couple of miles
down the road, you know, two or three miles in there.
But that road as you follow it up from the
bottom of the picture, and there's the farm buildings on
the rise as you can see. And as he goes up,
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and it's not the first field past the farm building,
it's the second one, a straw colored one. But as
you continue up there's a there's an hours looks like
a private towers. If you have said to people, I'm
wondering whether to knock on their door, I'm motivation you
to you. Actually, I wonder you where to knock on
the door and say excuse me. And I said, like
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a bit of a job and a weirdo. But I
just wanted to know whether you've experienced anything unusual in
the area and whether they'll be willing to talk or down. Now,
I don't know whether they believe me or not. I
hope they would, but it's time I go past there
in whatever direction it is, and I'll say that's that field,
and as I keep your eyes open, which wait and
see in case you see anything. But unfortunately we've seen anything,
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you know, so far as a group of us. I
mean one thing I will say, and this is a serious,
serious word of course, just in case anyone does see
anything you put out there and decides that they're going
to be investigators or whatever. Whatever those things were, i'd
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like to think is because of something of tell people about.
I'll put people in danger. But those creatures, whatever there were,
I wouldn't like to think that there's anyone going into
those words being clevery, you know, and thinking oh, I'll
get to the bottom of this, and then encountering those
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to whatever there, because if they did, I feel bad
about that. If anybody got around or you know, we're missing,
killed or whatever. But but honestly, I don't know whether
i'd be persuaded to go into those words. I don't know.
I'd love if there was someone who could like protect
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themselves with some kind of weapons or something. I'd love
somebody to, you know, has to do a survey in
those words. But I don't mean they might be private
words that might belong to the ouseide of the road.
I'm not sure, but yeah, that'd be an out of course.
I would, you know, if you were able to put
that out there. I don't want to take any responsibility
for anybody's injury or you know, anything like that loss
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of life. Those two creatures look very very real, very
very large and wolf like. Now, for all I know,
they could reside in the area for all or now
they could be passing through, traveling anything. And then again,
shoum not be in the car so or anything. But
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if added on, that would have been great because it
would have been you know, not that anybody would disbelieve me.
But it's difficult, isn't. Even people are telling people things
and it's like, oh, yeah, that would say you've been
drinking or you know where you say, oh you're on drugs,
and none of that, not, none of it. All I've
been was to the cemetery and and and you can
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find that on the Maproplsal there's some Michaels and he's
called some Michael's Church and the there's a bit of
a burial site around the church itself. But then just
to be further along the road is past a few houses,
there's another cemetery which is quite old as well. If
you follow the roads, like the main road that goes
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through Palsal and the girls out of that canal bridge,
there's a pub on the corner. There was a death
in that pub. Somebody was murdered or something. I don't know,
it's one or two people who was killed. Sure, I
can't remember never who did it, some whatever, But the
twenty ninth of August twenty two, I'd be kind of
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relieved if I'm not that far my store. And I said,
what was in the field that I saw? And I said, Oh,
it's somebody's happen to laugh with two of my horses
and they tried to make them look wolf like, you know,
and stuff like that. And I said, one must have
been big oases. And if they say something, I go,
well there were shire horses or whatever. But she had
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posted something recently, was that that nick guy when he
was talking and Saintbury's in encounter with whatever, he has
been shut up, and he was starting to resonate with
my experience with what I call the thuder, you know,
because of the foods. I was trying to remember when
I listened to what you posted, whether he said there's
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something actually went on the track in front of him
and he decided to turn back and do runner, which
I get that, I understand, you know. I had to
fight the impulse to run when I had my encounter
with whatever it was. And the thing was, it was
simpler with him not being able to see something, although
I see him so close, and that's scary because you
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think there's something that's close to you and you can't
see it, and that feels, you know, not very nice.
It's anyway, I tried to do the right thing, been
peaceful and loving and send us good thoughts, and I
was actually speaking, but then I was sending out mental
images just in case whatever it is doesn't know our language.
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And I think, I'll told you all this, and I'll
try to send our pictures of me being peaceful and
loving and whatever and just peacefully leaving and apologizing for
the intruding because that's how I felt. I felt I
was intruding.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The incident that Steve calls the is his original experience.
In twenty seven, in the winter months of that year,
he decided to go for a walk close to count
Chase in the Hayes Heath area at Staffordshire and he
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was followed really very similar to many people in the UK,
he was shadowed through that woodland. Now there was a
lot of tree disturbance that he came across, very unusual
tree disturbance, and that kind of clued him into that
there was something very different about that area. He didn't
see what starked him that day, but things did start
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to happen closer and closer to home, but unfortunately also
at his daughter's home. And Steve explains more of.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
This, but yeah, I will. I can only try to remember,
like I think you're talking about, when I came back
from the woods, when I expect what I've come to
call the thudda and I and I went back to
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my daughters of course, and uh, and I told her
about it. And then I mean, obviously she's interested in
that kind of stuff, and she was very you know,
understanding of what I was telling her. And I mean
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she's moved now. She lived there for quite a few years,
but she's moved now. Clauss Can they chase actually by
Poie Green. But anyway, when I told her all about
this on that day when I had the experience that
I was thoughts and I decided to leave the woods
because I felt as I've been led out of there.
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I later on, I know it was a few months
later on, and which later it was from the event,
I feel that it was summer, but it was no summer,
but I feel it was the summer. Yeah, that'll work
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out right, because it was i'd gone down into the
woods when we had that bee from the east, which
I think I was in twenty eighteen. I think that's
when I went in there. I remember being freezing cold
and the the to a snow an in short to
us snow about, and that might have made me think, oh,
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if I'll got down to the woods, like Debs advised
people to do that and just see what they can
experience it to feel okay, do any And that's what
initially got me to think, oh okay. So I went
down there and had their initial experience. So I came
away from there after that quite shocked straight to my
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daughter Summer has told you about events, and then she
was intrigued and interesting bays and then so that was
run about February ish, the part whether beast from the east,
and I'll show it how long it was prevailing that
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cold room from the east, whether it was a couple
of weeks or more. Anyway, that's when it was in
the cold weather, and then later on in the warmer weather,
and I happen to be sitting in my daughter's room.
I'm gonna minute, I'll start the thing, as is mouth
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often the case with me talking about weird stuff and
strange stuff. So after I told my daughter about this event,
started experience with the this thing that I called the
soo dar because of the noises about pretty about four
(21:05):
or five months later, I happened to be sitting in
my daughter's living room, which is at the back of
the house, and we've been chatting away about different things,
you know, just life in general, and then talking about
as his mouth often the case with me, talking about
weird stuff and strange stuff and unexplained stuff. And you know,
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and I might have actually been talking about this incident
that I've seen a few months before that there had
experience rather that a few months before. And suddenly there
was this enormous thud on the roof. It's got a
flat roof of a living room, and this enormous thud,
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and we both looked at teachers, didn't what on earth
was there, you know, And so I I got out
of the building at the back and doors, got the
patio doors on the back of there, and I looked up,
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couldn't see anyone on the patio roof. I looked out
of the fence into the car park at the side,
which is like sort of a private car park for
my daughter somewhere and a partner Dan and the restaurant
called the Jazmine, and it's like a shared car park,
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and there was no one around there. Now when I'm
behind the fence, I went up there. There was like
a ladder that Danny got in the garden, and I
went up there. And he sometimes got onto the roof
himself to do different things, whatever he was doing. But
I went up that ladder onto the flat roof again.
I could see into the car park now on there,
I could see the guardian which is all you know, open,
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and no one could Eyde there the summers, then garden,
and then at the side of the building there's like
a narrow channel, a sort of alleyway type thing that's
closed off at the one end by the streets with
a high board fence. There's no one in there, and
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it leads down to the buildings that connected to the church.
And I was known around known at all. No one
on the flat roof. There's no way for anyone to
go or disappeared to or you know. And so it
was a mystery this this third and there's nothing to
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explain and all that. But he very much sounded like
the thirds that had a few months previous down the woods.
So my thinking was afterwards that well, did whatever it
was follow me and erroneously think that's where I resided,
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as I was hanging about there, And so of course
when I left Summers, I might turn nip down to
Happiness to speak to her about my experience. And she
lived about hundred charge down the street, which is more
or less across the road from where I live above
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the pharmacy. But but yeah, and then eventually I would
have gone to my own place. But that's good. It's
on a subsequent occasion when I was with my There
was Angel, my granddaughter, Jacob, my grandson, and Daisian my
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my granddaughter, and Jacob and Angel have got a little
further in front and down this what we call the
blocked off track because there was road subsidence down this.
It's sort of like a country lane really, and it's
got a bad area across his stop any vehicles going
down except the people who live on a bit of
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land that I must have either rent or broad after farmer,
and they got some buildings, caravans and things. So on
that occasion I had the same kind of thought, me
and my granddaughter Daisy. And she heard his and she asked,
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what was they? You know? And so did you hear it?
And she says yeah, And I was looking and I
couldn't see anything whatever causes. I thought, it's got some
really cool invisibility because you can't see it now whatever
to try and mhmm. But so that was that connected
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to it, I suppose. So it might just been to
come incidents and the same thudder was perhaps in a
general area, or it might have been still connecting and
shadow shadow with me. I mean, funnily enough, if the
one time I did it a bump on where I
lived in my apartment, on my ceiling, on my roof rather,
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but it wasn't as loud as the thirds that I
did before. But because my neighbor had reported seeing a
squirrel hanging about on the roof on one occasion, I
thought it might have been that. But I'll tell you
what if a squirrel can make that kind of noise
on your roof, but I just dismissed that as it's
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probably some kind of wildlife like a squirrel or something.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
But that was the one above my There was also
another experience that Steve had when he was at his
daughter's and he was walking the dog, the small dog,
and he heard what he described as a strange whistling noise,
and other members of the family have heard it as well.
I know his sons had some strange interactions through this period,
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and one of his daughters also had knocking on a
window in an upstairs window with the property. This soul
seems to stem from the original visit Tochanic Chase that
Steve had during the Beast of the East, and things
have started to ramp up for him ever since and
kind of aron gooing. But he does have a lot
of experience f him early on will discuss them in
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a more updated video, but for now, I want you
to listen to him as he explains, I just.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Keep you today. It's something that happened. I'll try and
give it to shorts as possible. So I go out
today with my three grandchildren, my daughter, my granddaughter Angel,
my grandson Jacob, and my days. I often take in days, yeah,
for a bit of an adventure down the park or
into what she caused, the deep dark woods, you know. Anyway,
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decided to go to a different part today and there's
like a closed off road and you probably act to
see it on Google Maps. I think it's called new
Lands Lane. We're walking down there and we went off
to the left into some woods that's got like some
people have been doing like a bit of a faery
sort of display, you know, with different things, obviously to
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please the little kids. And that, you know, my adventures
were there, which is nice, and days he loved it
and that, you know, but it goes around in a
bit of an arc and it comes back to where
he started. And so we were back on the New
Leans Lane and we were proceeding down there, and I
think it was just before we reached the part if
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you chowse upon the areaal map, and now it is
a deer standing there in the in the road like
in the lane, and he was ready to do with
deer the stand stock still, you know, open the blending
and you don't see them sees. And then as we
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were walking along, the four of us, eventually it moved
and moved off to the left, and I think he
went into the corn field where the farm was going
some corn. This deer went across to the left, and
then this other deer quickly followed his others, two of them. Anyway,
we were walking along and saying to days, and see
the deer. That was good, wasn't it, you know, and
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talking about all that, And because we'd paused for the
beaker's days, he was looking at something on the ground,
some particular rock or something in the court the eye.
And then suddenly there was this almighty thumb just after
the right rear of where I was, more to the
right of me, but it's somewhat slightly behind, you know,
(30:02):
And this almighty bump was like we had that first
experience that I reported to you, when I was out
in sub zero temperatures and the heavy thood in like
heavy footsteps. It was just like that anyway, It's only
one bump this time for an artist's and I thought,
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what the hell was there? And then analysis the days
he had looked, and then she says, what was that, Granddad?
And I was glad that someone else had eard it,
you know. And then I said to Angel, who was
just like about putting about twenty twenty five feet away
from me, I said, did you read anything, then, Angel?
(30:44):
And she says yeah, she said, I ate something like
a bump or something. And I said yeah, I said,
three of us. I don't know whether Jacob did because
he was quite away in front. He but the thing
is what I was considering you're probably going to think
considered the same, the fact there was deer. There was
something keep an eye on the deer, and I was
(31:08):
not very happy that we'd like interrupted whatever they were
doing or eat or whatever it is, you know, maybe stalking,
you know, to bring one down or whatever. And because
we were on the edge of the chase, as I
said before, we do get quite a few deer around
the area from times of time. But whatever it was,
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I looked in the direction of where the sound came
from and I couldn't see anything, and he was, like
when I had my first experience with this, sounds you know,
whatever he is is he has the ability to remain
hidden or camouflage themselves so good that you can't see
(31:52):
them straight away. My thinking was to connect it with
the first experience sort of reported to you that you
recorded and you put on YouTube and that, so so yeah,
I thought to just relate that to Yeah. I mean it,
magine someone really really heavy jumping out of a tree
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and thudding onto the floor. You know, our humans can
do it on the bend and knees and the sort
of absorb the impact. Imagine someone doing that but being
more of a solid thumb. You know. It was more
like that, And he was very much the same as
i'd heard before, as I said, my previous experience. So yeah,
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And because that's like a quite a quiet sort of
lane that people don't normally go down. And and of course,
I mean that shook me up wherever it was, those
two creatures, whatever they were, I've been amusing time with
your idea. You know, when people get down into the
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woods or to streams or rivers and things like this.
I've been musing with the idea for a while now
that you know, in the in the ancient past, when
people were reporting seeing beings, supernatural appearances, whatever that they
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named various names, everything from elves to goblins to sprites
to whatever. You know. I'm just wondering. I think the
majority of the population tend to dismiss all this is
like nonsense, fairy tales, you know, ridiculed it, rubbish whatever,
football gradual retailers in the past as there are today.
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But I suppose, you know, there would have been incidences
like we've got there. We've seen different things, everything from
the ufls to bigfoot type things. You know. I was
wondering whether there's anything that could be with these beings,
whatever they are, and maybe they can manifest more than
one way. You know, they could manifest as like a
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young maiden to someone, or they can transform themselves into
a hag for someone or whatever, or a goblin or
a gnome or whatever. Anyway, this occurred to me with
my studies going down to the woods near my place
and as I say, that first day when I went
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out in that sort of sub zero temperatures and you've
got to record and so something definitely happened on that day.
And whatever that was, I don't know. I couldn't see anything,
but definitely the big thumthing whatever. It sounded like footsteps,
but could have been anything to do with the manifestation.
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But quickly back to a you know, and I sent out,
like in my mind the thoughts of like, you know,
I don't mean any arm I'm going away now, I'm
just curious, blah blah blah, all the usual. What if
I encountered some kind of a supernatural being and this
is what people might be encountering, and they maybe I'd
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be able to manifest in different ways, not only in
this country, around the world, you know. Also the energy
lines and the energy currents in the ground. That's something
that has intrigued me and drawn drawn me to out
of the years. I'm wondering that in the past, whether
people were using these energies for the benefit of themselves
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and the local community, perhaps enhands crop growing, or the
welfared of animals or even themselves. And notice back in
the early eighties on a map, I was doing our
circling all these moats and places like that, you know,
and there were absolutely loads but they don't put all
these moats on the maps that come after those times,
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because like some of them be destroyed or filled in
or removed that you know. I had the theory that
these little moments surrounded by water, they could be like
an accumulator of energy through the land or whatever, that
they may have been able to bathe in for the
all three reasons life giving properties and so on, or
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even drank and drank the water, you know. And so
this is what my intuition seems to be telling me
to do with this kind of stuff. I don't buy
the idea that they were like used to protecting animals,
because some of these things are too small, you know.
You know, you've probably got a couple of sheep on
there and they'll tell beach, you know. But I don't know,
it could be right. I was thinking that the energy
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of the flowers flows through the body. There's probat of
a similar system in the earth, in the ground and
now an accuput injuries to put needles in and all
use certain techniques to slow stop or reverse the energy
or and I thought, well, if they do a similar
thing with the land and the new bati in the
ancient times, it would have been like beneficial for growing crops.
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So that's well I might know with my thinking. And
of course these energies might follow rivers and all kinds
of things. And also you could get sorts of certain
paranormal events around these sort of mouths, moons, pools. I
mean the amount of place is called lady pool or
lady that would probably refer to the feminine, the feminine energy.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I would have to agree with Steve on the energy points.
I believe back in ancient times we were in tune
with nature in a way that we have long forgotten,
and for many of us we still feel the pull
of that. It's why thousands of people a year go
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to our ancient site is to celebrate, to meet up
with relatives, to share stewelies around the fire, and to
celebrate good times, bad times, getting through the winter or
so we have solstice. This is why many people plant
in garden and forage using the seasons, using the moon
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as a guide. It's been done for centuries, as we know,
as human beings are in tuned to that, some of
us more than others. Sometimes it's like a magnet, you know,
drawing you in see busised, can it chase that day
because you'd listen to me talking about people realigning with nature,
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going back down their ancestral lines, finding out about themselves
and understanding who they are, and getting to know nature again.
Finding a woodland, going in and learning it back to front.
What resources does it have you know, whether you know
them or you don't know, they yet to be learned,
What food sources are there, what animals are moving through,
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how does it change in different weather patterns? And then
you start to notice subtle changes within the wood. But
it can also, as Steve has explained, follow your home.
If you're out there and you put yourself out like
a beacon in a big, dark world, you can attract
anything with that. Now, I'm not saying what Steve attracted
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was evil in any way, shape or farm. But if
you're at home in your experiencing bangs on your house
and mysterious whistles you know, and things in your bedroom
are around you, that's absolutely terrifying. And it's quite normal
for that to be terrifying, because it's a natural reaction
to that, isn't it. I've known Steve a very long
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time and I also know his hist and he's had
events from being a very small boy, and as I said,
we will touch on them later on. And I know
his mum was with him one time when he had
that experience, so it's clearly, you know, within the family line.
I hope as we go forward and he shares more
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of his thoughts with his experience, he'll answer some of
the questions that we all have, but also voice the
questions that we have, which is just as important, isn't it.
He's still trying to fathom out what happened to him
that day and how it's affected him and his family members,
you know, going on, and then to culminate that we've
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seen those two preachers in the field up on the
top of Lime Lane, it was just awful for him
because is then thinking, is that what I've attracted to
my home. I have asked him to jot down a
few notes so that we can go over him, and
he also asked him if anything had happened home recently.
(40:42):
He who watched a chat with me and there was
an incident that he shared and it's quite moving when
he speaks about it. But as I say, it's a
very transparent man is Steve. So I have a listened
to what he has to say, as.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I said of experience and stuff in my bedroom, you know,
on that side of my bed, and there was like
three figures quite a while back in this place on
living Now, I was going through a tough time and
I was I was quite distraught, and I'm gonna be honest,
it was a few tears shared. I'm in my blog,
I'm gonna shame to admisses. And I fell asleep, and
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then an hour hour and half later I woke up
to see these these three guys in a sort of
and now it's sort of like a sky sky blue
a bit lighter than you know, the normal sky blue
kind of lashdows. As soon as I saw them, and
there was one close to me and there was the
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two behind, you know, like any sort of a triangle,
you know, but as a lashdow, they all sorts of
turned on their own access to their left, you know,
and rose up into the air and went through the
through the ceiling. And I was absolutely amazed and smack
and I was like, oh my god, you know. And
then I was like, oh no, was it in response
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to my sols of heartfelt cry for help? And you
know's to God all the intelligence of the Yearniwase or whatever.
And then I was like, I was really disappointed that
I reacted the way I did, but I felt that
those three guys were there in response to what I
you know, poured out like you know, another time, I
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and again this is a this is one. This is
one where it's like, get me dragged away to the
learning being if I taught the wrong people. Remember the
one time I woke up and I realized there was
you know, the typical gray alien what they called the grays.
There was a figure like that side of my bed,
scared the beaches as classed my eyes, and I thought, oh, anyway,
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I A. I was aware then of these little figures
like little Eat is probably about twelve to eighteen inches tall,
and there must have been I don't know, anything between
eight ten twelve of them. Like I could feel them
like climbing over me, you know, and moving about on
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top of the top of it. It was really weird
and it sounds absolutely ridiculous and crazy, but it felt
as that really happened. To know. I was wide away
woken up and I became a word of it. And
it looks like I see them moving about on me
and they're not sort of like put me back down
a class my eyes. Anyway, this the bigger alien understanding
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side the bed what this was going on. He said
to me, open your eyes, and I said, no, I'm
not opening my eyes because I knew from my own
investigations and research that these grays they're notorious for like
they are sorts of like a hypnotic effect on you,
and they can ma somehow with their eyes. They can
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look into your eyes and they can have a powerful
effect on you and maybe wipe your memory, you see.
And I thought, now, I don't my memory wipe, so
you know, And anyway, I just I just ignore it
and I just kept my eyes. And then anyway, I
must have fell asleep, which is strange. You wouldn't think
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that would be the normal way to react with you.
But but although the adrenaline was going through me and
I was like, you know, it was a shocking thing
to go through, I decided to just ignore it. Interest
But right away another one I woke up fairly recently,
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within a week or two, and I was I was
aware of a female figure side of my bed again.
I put out some sort of a call in grassy
shues and my ancestors and that, and and I at
our here because of those ancestors, and you know, if
it wasn't for their mold and beer, you know, coming
down the line, the broodlines and there. And I was like,
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and then I said, for I have I think, if
any any ancestors, I say, as long as you're the
real thing, and you know, like imitators or you know,
any if any ancestors or whatever one, since you get
into it and whatever. So I'll be proud to you know,
and so long as you don't scare the hell of me,
you know. And then I woke up to one nice
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and I saw this female figure by side the bed.
It looked like she got an armful. Her hands were
like as wide as the shoulders apart. And he's like
like a greenery like herbs. Perhaps, I don't know. I
couldn't see any flowers on whatever it was where it
was like a bunch of greenery of some sort, which
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I took to be planned substance. And you know, and
I remember the woman. I couldn't the life of me
tell you what the face was like, but I remember
the woman having like sort of coming down to the
shouldered hair with a little bit of a waving it
and okay, you know, and for some reason I reacted
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badly and I was tending it to get away and
leave me alone and swore, you know. And it was
really sort of strange. And I realized that I thought,
oh no, I put my caller, didn't I if I?
And then I thought the point disappointed in me, that
I was silent and sort of basically and I was
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stronger words and and I was I was really disappointed
in myself. But I remember resorted to a phrase, you
don't hear it in this day and age, with all
the words, are shating for this person to go away,
because I mean, you wake up in some reason in
your room. It does. It does battle to you, you know.
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And then with all the words our shares in and
then I said, be gone, you know that be gone.
It was really weird. But I've had somebody touched me
a couple of times in bed. I found somebody touched
my man, the man my right hand. But my suster
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told me she she had a touchy on the side
was she was standing, but not standing. She was sitting
in front of a fire, so you electric fire in
a bungalow and she said she was sure there's somebody
who touched her in the side. Just think it might
have been a muscle spis And when I says no,
I st I think it was genuinely somebody pushed me
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in the side with an end.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
And there I explained to Steve that I think I
know who the lady with the herbs was, somebody while
she was holding in the north. We call them vessels,
but I think they're known mostly as bessons, And it's
a very early form of a witty's broom, and it
isn't done in a magical witches broom kind of way.
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Absum is a bundle that can sweep away bad energy. Food, plants,
herbs and greener are healers in many different ways, being
around them, eating them, and using them in a way
to ridge yourself of anything that's holding you back. Steve's
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ancestor was trying to give him that message it was
time to sweep the floor clean and start again, step
forward in a new way. We have these troughs and
ups and down snakes on that aers in life, and
sometimes life seems impossible, but eventually the clouds will clear.
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Then you find a way to move on and absum
is an ancient way of I would suggest an ancestor
showing Steve what he needs to do. It must have
been absolutely terrifying seeing those two creatures near the cemetery,
and it must have been absolutely terrifying walking around Canic
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Chase knowing that you're being followed. I know several people
that have been to the Chase and have come home
with something attached, myself included, and it was one of
the hardest battles of my life. I had to go
back and do a kind of best spell myself to
rid myself with it. It just attracts the negative for
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some reason. And the land down theres as old as
the time, and I think Steve has a way of
tuning into that land. So I've suggested to him that
he tells me all of his experiences that he's had
from being a small boy, and I'll bring them to
you in a future episode. But until then, I hope
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you like what I've shared tonight, because I have many
more like this to come. And whether you're a new
subscriber or an old subscriber, thank you for tuning in,
and I will be back at the same time on
the same day next week
Speaker 2 (50:16):
H
Hello everybody. Today I am sharing with you the experiences
of Steve Heavican. I've been in touch with Steve for
quite a long time now. I've three shared an event
with me that happened to him when he visited Canic Chase.
After that visit, there were several interactions getting closer and
closer to his home. No things after that spilled out
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into his children's homes as well. He's experienced things when
he's been with his family, and he's experienced things when
he's been on his own. So he kindly sat down
and sent me a series of voice messages so I
was able to document his experiences to save them for prosperity.
And I'm sure you will enjoy listening to them as
I did putting them together. Like I say, I've known
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him for a very long time. He's a very honest man,
really likable chap and he's always up for speaking with
other people who've going to experience his life his own.
So hap us to listen to what Sea has to
tell us, and then I'll catch it with you at
the end and I'll add my thoughts and theories on that.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Debru Monday, the twenty ninth of August just gone. We
gone to the cemetery in Persil to turn on some
flowers because it was a twenty night when she passed
away last year. And so there we are on one
day at the cemetery. We're coming back. We popped my sister.
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We got to the cemetery quite laze. I think it
was after six ish, between six and half pert something
like death. And then by the time I think we
were left from our sister somewhere between bed eight eight
pm and eight forty five pm something like that, I
was still fairly lightish, although the sun was going down,
and we were coming back on that main road. I
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can't remember what the actual name of that main road is,
but I took a picture and I was reading back
towards Ethays. On the right hand side, there's like a
field where the farm has been putting the making the
hay bales, you know, and the stacks quite high, you know,
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and on BALSI is the sort of low woids because
it's really dark when you pass that field, and I've
always felt like a bit of a spooky It's probably
because it's dark, you know, and if you walk in
along there late, which I've done a couple of times
it's you feel quite apprehensive and you you'd like to
get through that area anyway, it's my amazement. As we
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were coming on the road, my son in lower Down
was driving. There was myself in the front passenger seats,
and there was my daughter Summer Dan's partner on the
same side as a driver, you know, in the back seat,
and then my granddaughter Angel and then my granddaughter Daisy
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or so anyway, coming on that main road, to my astonishment,
on the rise, looking across the field, I see these
two figures and I was trying to make sense of
what I was seeing. It was like, but it was
like two figures on all fours. They're seen quite long.
Whether there were horses, but something was telling me that
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there wasn't horses. You know, It's really strange. And as
we were going along and I was opening there are
other people in the car had seen what I've seen,
and I got to be honest, I know, he SAIDs
absolutely ridiculous. But for all the world, I could be
a mistake. You know, I don't know. Aren't checked so
whether there's any horses about, But it seems strange to
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me to have a couple of horses in the field,
if it was with all these hay bales, you know,
because you wouldn't think a farmer would do that because
the horses are going to be eating the profits. But
they seem just really long, and it was really weird
and whatever these creatures were sort of stood up. I
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hate to think I told it been, you know, quite
quite high, quite tall. But so it's just running through
my head like giant walls, you know. And it was
like and I was a ridiculous thing to think, but
that's what I was like. And you know, your brain
tries to make sense of things, and I was like,
what what? And I was hoping that someone else in
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the car would have seen something, but we were driven
passed by at that point, and I said, did anybody
else in the cars? Those animals in the field just inquiring,
you know, and they were all saying, now, we didn't
see anything, we didn't look and whatever. And as I
said before, you know, got a bit apprehensive about like
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exploring too much because of like my first experience that
I told you about that you recorded, and I didn't
I couldn't see what was making the actual noise those
years ago. I'll tell you what. It was just really astonishing.
And these two creatures, whatever they were, seemed to be
like there wasn't moving quick. They were just like moving
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along quite steady, you know, but heading for the trees.
The one was slightly in front of the other. You
know now that that particular stretch of woods there, when
I've gone past it before, I've seen signs saying private property,
private woods, keep out, you know that kind of thing.
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So I don't know, I don't know what's going on.
I don't know what it was. I'd love to go
and checking and confirm whether it's you know, perhaps a
couple of horses. But these animals, wherever there were, it
was really strange, and they didn't seem to have the
tails like a horse would you know, a lot of
the you know, the way the hair sort of is.
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It's seem more of a compact. So so why you'd
have a dog a lot more clumped, you know, he's
on the way I can describe it. But these were
I mean, if I say these creatures or at least
as long as the car, and perhaps as I what
the hell you know it's and because there's been reports
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of all kinds of creatures around mechanic chase areas you
know over the years, and you've got your reports, but
I'll be quite apprehensive to explore those would so I
don't know. If there's any researches in in my sort
of area, it would check you check it out. But
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I think I want to take a couple of stuff.
Silver bullets flying so or something. It was so weird.
I don't think I asked them to turn around the
car and go back, which was I do sort of
feel about doing that, but I think part of me
was like thinking, no, no, I don't think. I don't
think so, especially because my my, my daughter and two
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grand daughters in the car. I mean, I'm opening it's
just something this explainable, some rational explanation, but I've never
seen anything like that. I've driven past overseas and fields
care of sheep, the usual stuff, you know, the tractors
and things you see and all that. But but this
was this was weird, honestly, just just something weird. Maybe
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I can see when Dan, Dan's got a bit of
free time, and whether we can drive back down that
road and perhaps get out, park up somewhere and have
a look at the field. And if I get access
to the field. Maybe I can have blocks there's any
any horses or or even get some possibility of seeing
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any tracks.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So I asked Steve if he could tell me the
exact area where he saw the two creatures in the field.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I was coming down that road, the B four one
five four. We just come over the canal bridge from
Pelsa and we come out of the bridge and we
were coming up at the bottom of the pitch. You
can see like a farm farmhouses on the rise. So
we were going up past there and the farm buildings
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on the rise, and we were going up up in
that direction, traveling up the picture, and not the greenish
looking field that's immediately above the farmhouse, but the next
field along the next field up this was the straw
colored field right by the edge of the wood. It
was that field. And as we were coming along that
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road and the edge row was at the right high
for me to see across that field, and it's had
the big round bales of I'll say, hey, I don't
really say, or straw orhe everything I don't now. And
about a third of the way from the road into
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the field, and probably about two thirds of the way
you know, from where the age row is of that
field at the bottom of that colored sandy colored straw
colored field, heading towards the woods with these two big giants.
(09:45):
What I think would giant were wolf? I'll say were
wolf because I mean, that's the only thing you can
think of, you know, let's do the movies and there,
I'll say wolf like. I mean, that's a bit more neutralism.
Giant wolf like type cree and that particular wood there
has got it. I've always had a funny feeling as
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I walked past there. When I walk past there in
the past, it feels kind of real and spooky. I'm
not sure whether it's because it's like the trees are
like tear over the roads and they grow over there
and it'll be so it's been more darker and gloomy
and that, you know, I don't know which always feels.
I've always had a sense of unease as I've walked
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past there in the past. But there are signs there
of like you know, people keep out, you know, all
that kind of stuff. I can't remember the exact wording
on the signs signs, And but these two creatures just
noncunately walking across there as they only got a care
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in the world. And that sort of movement that you
you're described as like a slinky movement, and I said, yeah,
that's banged on, say exactly like where it's like almoles
sort of cat like really, but there wasn't cats, the
wolf like And that's why I said, i'd eye to
be pressured into going into those woods. He would. I mean,
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he put me off just going out into the local
field down by me, because it's not too far from
where I leave these, you know, any couple of miles
down the road, you know, two or three miles in there.
But that road as you follow it up from the
bottom of the picture, and there's the farm buildings on
the rise as you can see. And as he goes up,
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and it's not the first field past the farm building,
it's the second one, a straw colored one. But as
you continue up there's a there's an hours looks like
a private towers. If you have said to people, I'm
wondering whether to knock on their door, I'm motivation you
to you. Actually, I wonder you where to knock on
the door and say excuse me. And I said, like
(11:51):
a bit of a job and a weirdo. But I
just wanted to know whether you've experienced anything unusual in
the area and whether they'll be willing to talk or down. Now,
I don't know whether they believe me or not. I
hope they would, but it's time I go past there
in whatever direction it is, and I'll say that's that field,
and as I keep your eyes open, which wait and
see in case you see anything. But unfortunately we've seen anything,
(12:13):
you know, so far as a group of us. I
mean one thing I will say, and this is a serious,
serious word of course, just in case anyone does see
anything you put out there and decides that they're going
to be investigators or whatever. Whatever those things were, i'd
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like to think is because of something of tell people about.
I'll put people in danger. But those creatures, whatever there were,
I wouldn't like to think that there's anyone going into
those words being clevery, you know, and thinking oh, I'll
get to the bottom of this, and then encountering those
(12:58):
to whatever there, because if they did, I feel bad
about that. If anybody got around or you know, we're missing,
killed or whatever. But but honestly, I don't know whether
i'd be persuaded to go into those words. I don't know.
I'd love if there was someone who could like protect
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themselves with some kind of weapons or something. I'd love
somebody to, you know, has to do a survey in
those words. But I don't mean they might be private
words that might belong to the ouseide of the road.
I'm not sure, but yeah, that'd be an out of course.
I would, you know, if you were able to put
that out there. I don't want to take any responsibility
for anybody's injury or you know, anything like that loss
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of life. Those two creatures look very very real, very
very large and wolf like. Now, for all I know,
they could reside in the area for all or now
they could be passing through, traveling anything. And then again,
shoum not be in the car so or anything. But
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if added on, that would have been great because it
would have been you know, not that anybody would disbelieve me.
But it's difficult, isn't. Even people are telling people things
and it's like, oh, yeah, that would say you've been
drinking or you know where you say, oh you're on drugs,
and none of that, not, none of it. All I've
been was to the cemetery and and and you can
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find that on the Maproplsal there's some Michaels and he's
called some Michael's Church and the there's a bit of
a burial site around the church itself. But then just
to be further along the road is past a few houses,
there's another cemetery which is quite old as well. If
you follow the roads, like the main road that goes
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through Palsal and the girls out of that canal bridge,
there's a pub on the corner. There was a death
in that pub. Somebody was murdered or something. I don't know,
it's one or two people who was killed. Sure, I
can't remember never who did it, some whatever, But the
twenty ninth of August twenty two, I'd be kind of
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relieved if I'm not that far my store. And I said,
what was in the field that I saw? And I said, Oh,
it's somebody's happen to laugh with two of my horses
and they tried to make them look wolf like, you know,
and stuff like that. And I said, one must have
been big oases. And if they say something, I go,
well there were shire horses or whatever. But she had
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posted something recently, was that that nick guy when he
was talking and Saintbury's in encounter with whatever, he has
been shut up, and he was starting to resonate with
my experience with what I call the thuder, you know,
because of the foods. I was trying to remember when
I listened to what you posted, whether he said there's
(15:55):
something actually went on the track in front of him
and he decided to turn back and do runner, which
I get that, I understand, you know. I had to
fight the impulse to run when I had my encounter
with whatever it was. And the thing was, it was
simpler with him not being able to see something, although
I see him so close, and that's scary because you
(16:19):
think there's something that's close to you and you can't
see it, and that feels, you know, not very nice.
It's anyway, I tried to do the right thing, been
peaceful and loving and send us good thoughts, and I
was actually speaking, but then I was sending out mental
images just in case whatever it is doesn't know our language.
(16:41):
And I think, I'll told you all this, and I'll
try to send our pictures of me being peaceful and
loving and whatever and just peacefully leaving and apologizing for
the intruding because that's how I felt. I felt I
was intruding.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The incident that Steve calls the is his original experience.
In twenty seven, in the winter months of that year,
he decided to go for a walk close to count
Chase in the Hayes Heath area at Staffordshire and he
(17:14):
was followed really very similar to many people in the UK,
he was shadowed through that woodland. Now there was a
lot of tree disturbance that he came across, very unusual
tree disturbance, and that kind of clued him into that
there was something very different about that area. He didn't
see what starked him that day, but things did start
(17:37):
to happen closer and closer to home, but unfortunately also
at his daughter's home. And Steve explains more of.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
This, but yeah, I will. I can only try to remember,
like I think you're talking about, when I came back
from the woods, when I expect what I've come to
call the thudda and I and I went back to
(18:08):
my daughters of course, and uh, and I told her
about it. And then I mean, obviously she's interested in
that kind of stuff, and she was very you know,
understanding of what I was telling her. And I mean
(18:30):
she's moved now. She lived there for quite a few years,
but she's moved now. Clauss Can they chase actually by
Poie Green. But anyway, when I told her all about
this on that day when I had the experience that
I was thoughts and I decided to leave the woods
because I felt as I've been led out of there.
(18:54):
I later on, I know it was a few months
later on, and which later it was from the event,
I feel that it was summer, but it was no summer,
but I feel it was the summer. Yeah, that'll work
(19:15):
out right, because it was i'd gone down into the
woods when we had that bee from the east, which
I think I was in twenty eighteen. I think that's
when I went in there. I remember being freezing cold
and the the to a snow an in short to
us snow about, and that might have made me think, oh,
(19:38):
if I'll got down to the woods, like Debs advised
people to do that and just see what they can
experience it to feel okay, do any And that's what
initially got me to think, oh okay. So I went
down there and had their initial experience. So I came
away from there after that quite shocked straight to my
(19:58):
daughter Summer has told you about events, and then she
was intrigued and interesting bays and then so that was
run about February ish, the part whether beast from the east,
and I'll show it how long it was prevailing that
(20:18):
cold room from the east, whether it was a couple
of weeks or more. Anyway, that's when it was in
the cold weather, and then later on in the warmer weather,
and I happen to be sitting in my daughter's room.
I'm gonna minute, I'll start the thing, as is mouth
(20:43):
often the case with me talking about weird stuff and
strange stuff. So after I told my daughter about this event,
started experience with the this thing that I called the
soo dar because of the noises about pretty about four
(21:05):
or five months later, I happened to be sitting in
my daughter's living room, which is at the back of
the house, and we've been chatting away about different things,
you know, just life in general, and then talking about
as his mouth often the case with me, talking about
weird stuff and strange stuff and unexplained stuff. And you know,
(21:30):
and I might have actually been talking about this incident
that I've seen a few months before that there had
experience rather that a few months before. And suddenly there
was this enormous thud on the roof. It's got a
flat roof of a living room, and this enormous thud,
(21:53):
and we both looked at teachers, didn't what on earth
was there, you know, And so I I got out
of the building at the back and doors, got the
patio doors on the back of there, and I looked up,
(22:13):
couldn't see anyone on the patio roof. I looked out
of the fence into the car park at the side,
which is like sort of a private car park for
my daughter somewhere and a partner Dan and the restaurant
called the Jazmine, and it's like a shared car park,
(22:39):
and there was no one around there. Now when I'm
behind the fence, I went up there. There was like
a ladder that Danny got in the garden, and I
went up there. And he sometimes got onto the roof
himself to do different things, whatever he was doing. But
I went up that ladder onto the flat roof again.
I could see into the car park now on there,
I could see the guardian which is all you know, open,
(23:04):
and no one could Eyde there the summers, then garden,
and then at the side of the building there's like
a narrow channel, a sort of alleyway type thing that's
closed off at the one end by the streets with
a high board fence. There's no one in there, and
(23:28):
it leads down to the buildings that connected to the church.
And I was known around known at all. No one
on the flat roof. There's no way for anyone to
go or disappeared to or you know. And so it
was a mystery this this third and there's nothing to
(23:50):
explain and all that. But he very much sounded like
the thirds that had a few months previous down the woods.
So my thinking was afterwards that well, did whatever it
was follow me and erroneously think that's where I resided,
(24:12):
as I was hanging about there, And so of course
when I left Summers, I might turn nip down to
Happiness to speak to her about my experience. And she
lived about hundred charge down the street, which is more
or less across the road from where I live above
(24:33):
the pharmacy. But but yeah, and then eventually I would
have gone to my own place. But that's good. It's
on a subsequent occasion when I was with my There
was Angel, my granddaughter, Jacob, my grandson, and Daisian my
(24:57):
my granddaughter, and Jacob and Angel have got a little
further in front and down this what we call the
blocked off track because there was road subsidence down this.
It's sort of like a country lane really, and it's
got a bad area across his stop any vehicles going
down except the people who live on a bit of
(25:19):
land that I must have either rent or broad after farmer,
and they got some buildings, caravans and things. So on
that occasion I had the same kind of thought, me
and my granddaughter Daisy. And she heard his and she asked,
(25:40):
what was they? You know? And so did you hear it?
And she says yeah, And I was looking and I
couldn't see anything whatever causes. I thought, it's got some
really cool invisibility because you can't see it now whatever
to try and mhmm. But so that was that connected
(26:05):
to it, I suppose. So it might just been to
come incidents and the same thudder was perhaps in a
general area, or it might have been still connecting and
shadow shadow with me. I mean, funnily enough, if the
one time I did it a bump on where I
lived in my apartment, on my ceiling, on my roof rather,
(26:31):
but it wasn't as loud as the thirds that I
did before. But because my neighbor had reported seeing a
squirrel hanging about on the roof on one occasion, I
thought it might have been that. But I'll tell you
what if a squirrel can make that kind of noise
on your roof, but I just dismissed that as it's
(26:53):
probably some kind of wildlife like a squirrel or something.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
But that was the one above my There was also
another experience that Steve had when he was at his
daughter's and he was walking the dog, the small dog,
and he heard what he described as a strange whistling noise,
and other members of the family have heard it as well.
I know his sons had some strange interactions through this period,
(27:17):
and one of his daughters also had knocking on a
window in an upstairs window with the property. This soul
seems to stem from the original visit Tochanic Chase that
Steve had during the Beast of the East, and things
have started to ramp up for him ever since and
kind of aron gooing. But he does have a lot
of experience f him early on will discuss them in
(27:40):
a more updated video, but for now, I want you
to listen to him as he explains, I just.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Keep you today. It's something that happened. I'll try and
give it to shorts as possible. So I go out
today with my three grandchildren, my daughter, my granddaughter Angel,
my grandson Jacob, and my days. I often take in days, yeah,
for a bit of an adventure down the park or
into what she caused, the deep dark woods, you know. Anyway,
(28:08):
decided to go to a different part today and there's
like a closed off road and you probably act to
see it on Google Maps. I think it's called new
Lands Lane. We're walking down there and we went off
to the left into some woods that's got like some
people have been doing like a bit of a faery
sort of display, you know, with different things, obviously to
(28:32):
please the little kids. And that, you know, my adventures
were there, which is nice, and days he loved it
and that, you know, but it goes around in a
bit of an arc and it comes back to where
he started. And so we were back on the New
Leans Lane and we were proceeding down there, and I
think it was just before we reached the part if
(28:53):
you chowse upon the areaal map, and now it is
a deer standing there in the in the road like
in the lane, and he was ready to do with
deer the stand stock still, you know, open the blending
and you don't see them sees. And then as we
(29:16):
were walking along, the four of us, eventually it moved
and moved off to the left, and I think he
went into the corn field where the farm was going
some corn. This deer went across to the left, and
then this other deer quickly followed his others, two of them. Anyway,
we were walking along and saying to days, and see
the deer. That was good, wasn't it, you know, and
(29:37):
talking about all that, And because we'd paused for the
beaker's days, he was looking at something on the ground,
some particular rock or something in the court the eye.
And then suddenly there was this almighty thumb just after
the right rear of where I was, more to the
right of me, but it's somewhat slightly behind, you know,
(30:02):
And this almighty bump was like we had that first
experience that I reported to you, when I was out
in sub zero temperatures and the heavy thood in like
heavy footsteps. It was just like that anyway, It's only
one bump this time for an artist's and I thought,
(30:23):
what the hell was there? And then analysis the days
he had looked, and then she says, what was that, Granddad?
And I was glad that someone else had eard it,
you know. And then I said to Angel, who was
just like about putting about twenty twenty five feet away
from me, I said, did you read anything, then, Angel?
(30:44):
And she says yeah, she said, I ate something like
a bump or something. And I said yeah, I said,
three of us. I don't know whether Jacob did because
he was quite away in front. He but the thing
is what I was considering you're probably going to think
considered the same, the fact there was deer. There was
something keep an eye on the deer, and I was
(31:08):
not very happy that we'd like interrupted whatever they were
doing or eat or whatever it is, you know, maybe stalking,
you know, to bring one down or whatever. And because
we were on the edge of the chase, as I
said before, we do get quite a few deer around
the area from times of time. But whatever it was,
(31:31):
I looked in the direction of where the sound came
from and I couldn't see anything, and he was, like
when I had my first experience with this, sounds you know,
whatever he is is he has the ability to remain
hidden or camouflage themselves so good that you can't see
(31:52):
them straight away. My thinking was to connect it with
the first experience sort of reported to you that you
recorded and you put on YouTube and that, so so yeah,
I thought to just relate that to Yeah. I mean it,
magine someone really really heavy jumping out of a tree
(32:14):
and thudding onto the floor. You know, our humans can
do it on the bend and knees and the sort
of absorb the impact. Imagine someone doing that but being
more of a solid thumb. You know. It was more
like that, And he was very much the same as
i'd heard before, as I said, my previous experience. So yeah,
(32:36):
And because that's like a quite a quiet sort of
lane that people don't normally go down. And and of course,
I mean that shook me up wherever it was, those
two creatures, whatever they were, I've been amusing time with
your idea. You know, when people get down into the
(32:58):
woods or to streams or rivers and things like this.
I've been musing with the idea for a while now
that you know, in the in the ancient past, when
people were reporting seeing beings, supernatural appearances, whatever that they
(33:19):
named various names, everything from elves to goblins to sprites
to whatever. You know. I'm just wondering. I think the
majority of the population tend to dismiss all this is
like nonsense, fairy tales, you know, ridiculed it, rubbish whatever,
football gradual retailers in the past as there are today.
(33:42):
But I suppose, you know, there would have been incidences
like we've got there. We've seen different things, everything from
the ufls to bigfoot type things. You know. I was
wondering whether there's anything that could be with these beings,
whatever they are, and maybe they can manifest more than
one way. You know, they could manifest as like a
(34:03):
young maiden to someone, or they can transform themselves into
a hag for someone or whatever, or a goblin or
a gnome or whatever. Anyway, this occurred to me with
my studies going down to the woods near my place
and as I say, that first day when I went
(34:24):
out in that sort of sub zero temperatures and you've
got to record and so something definitely happened on that day.
And whatever that was, I don't know. I couldn't see anything,
but definitely the big thumthing whatever. It sounded like footsteps,
but could have been anything to do with the manifestation.
(34:49):
But quickly back to a you know, and I sent out,
like in my mind the thoughts of like, you know,
I don't mean any arm I'm going away now, I'm
just curious, blah blah blah, all the usual. What if
I encountered some kind of a supernatural being and this
is what people might be encountering, and they maybe I'd
(35:11):
be able to manifest in different ways, not only in
this country, around the world, you know. Also the energy
lines and the energy currents in the ground. That's something
that has intrigued me and drawn drawn me to out
of the years. I'm wondering that in the past, whether
people were using these energies for the benefit of themselves
(35:32):
and the local community, perhaps enhands crop growing, or the
welfared of animals or even themselves. And notice back in
the early eighties on a map, I was doing our
circling all these moats and places like that, you know,
and there were absolutely loads but they don't put all
these moats on the maps that come after those times,
(35:54):
because like some of them be destroyed or filled in
or removed that you know. I had the theory that
these little moments surrounded by water, they could be like
an accumulator of energy through the land or whatever, that
they may have been able to bathe in for the
all three reasons life giving properties and so on, or
(36:18):
even drank and drank the water, you know. And so
this is what my intuition seems to be telling me
to do with this kind of stuff. I don't buy
the idea that they were like used to protecting animals,
because some of these things are too small, you know.
You know, you've probably got a couple of sheep on
there and they'll tell beach, you know. But I don't know,
it could be right. I was thinking that the energy
(36:39):
of the flowers flows through the body. There's probat of
a similar system in the earth, in the ground and
now an accuput injuries to put needles in and all
use certain techniques to slow stop or reverse the energy
or and I thought, well, if they do a similar
thing with the land and the new bati in the
ancient times, it would have been like beneficial for growing crops.
(37:00):
So that's well I might know with my thinking. And
of course these energies might follow rivers and all kinds
of things. And also you could get sorts of certain
paranormal events around these sort of mouths, moons, pools. I
mean the amount of place is called lady pool or
lady that would probably refer to the feminine, the feminine energy.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I would have to agree with Steve on the energy points.
I believe back in ancient times we were in tune
with nature in a way that we have long forgotten,
and for many of us we still feel the pull
of that. It's why thousands of people a year go
(37:44):
to our ancient site is to celebrate, to meet up
with relatives, to share stewelies around the fire, and to
celebrate good times, bad times, getting through the winter or
so we have solstice. This is why many people plant
in garden and forage using the seasons, using the moon
(38:07):
as a guide. It's been done for centuries, as we know,
as human beings are in tuned to that, some of
us more than others. Sometimes it's like a magnet, you know,
drawing you in see busised, can it chase that day
because you'd listen to me talking about people realigning with nature,
(38:27):
going back down their ancestral lines, finding out about themselves
and understanding who they are, and getting to know nature again.
Finding a woodland, going in and learning it back to front.
What resources does it have you know, whether you know
them or you don't know, they yet to be learned,
What food sources are there, what animals are moving through,
(38:51):
how does it change in different weather patterns? And then
you start to notice subtle changes within the wood. But
it can also, as Steve has explained, follow your home.
If you're out there and you put yourself out like
a beacon in a big, dark world, you can attract
anything with that. Now, I'm not saying what Steve attracted
(39:16):
was evil in any way, shape or farm. But if
you're at home in your experiencing bangs on your house
and mysterious whistles you know, and things in your bedroom
are around you, that's absolutely terrifying. And it's quite normal
for that to be terrifying, because it's a natural reaction
to that, isn't it. I've known Steve a very long
(39:37):
time and I also know his hist and he's had
events from being a very small boy, and as I said,
we will touch on them later on. And I know
his mum was with him one time when he had
that experience, so it's clearly, you know, within the family line.
I hope as we go forward and he shares more
(39:58):
of his thoughts with his experience, he'll answer some of
the questions that we all have, but also voice the
questions that we have, which is just as important, isn't it.
He's still trying to fathom out what happened to him
that day and how it's affected him and his family members,
you know, going on, and then to culminate that we've
(40:21):
seen those two preachers in the field up on the
top of Lime Lane, it was just awful for him
because is then thinking, is that what I've attracted to
my home. I have asked him to jot down a
few notes so that we can go over him, and
he also asked him if anything had happened home recently.
(40:42):
He who watched a chat with me and there was
an incident that he shared and it's quite moving when
he speaks about it. But as I say, it's a
very transparent man is Steve. So I have a listened
to what he has to say, as.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I said of experience and stuff in my bedroom, you know,
on that side of my bed, and there was like
three figures quite a while back in this place on
living Now, I was going through a tough time and
I was I was quite distraught, and I'm gonna be honest,
it was a few tears shared. I'm in my blog,
I'm gonna shame to admisses. And I fell asleep, and
(41:19):
then an hour hour and half later I woke up
to see these these three guys in a sort of
and now it's sort of like a sky sky blue
a bit lighter than you know, the normal sky blue
kind of lashdows. As soon as I saw them, and
there was one close to me and there was the
(41:40):
two behind, you know, like any sort of a triangle,
you know, but as a lashdow, they all sorts of
turned on their own access to their left, you know,
and rose up into the air and went through the
through the ceiling. And I was absolutely amazed and smack
and I was like, oh my god, you know. And
then I was like, oh no, was it in response
(42:03):
to my sols of heartfelt cry for help? And you
know's to God all the intelligence of the Yearniwase or whatever.
And then I was like, I was really disappointed that
I reacted the way I did, but I felt that
those three guys were there in response to what I
you know, poured out like you know, another time, I
(42:29):
and again this is a this is one. This is
one where it's like, get me dragged away to the
learning being if I taught the wrong people. Remember the
one time I woke up and I realized there was
you know, the typical gray alien what they called the grays.
There was a figure like that side of my bed,
scared the beaches as classed my eyes, and I thought, oh, anyway,
(42:54):
I A. I was aware then of these little figures
like little Eat is probably about twelve to eighteen inches tall,
and there must have been I don't know, anything between
eight ten twelve of them. Like I could feel them
like climbing over me, you know, and moving about on
(43:14):
top of the top of it. It was really weird
and it sounds absolutely ridiculous and crazy, but it felt
as that really happened. To know. I was wide away
woken up and I became a word of it. And
it looks like I see them moving about on me
and they're not sort of like put me back down
a class my eyes. Anyway, this the bigger alien understanding
(43:37):
side the bed what this was going on. He said
to me, open your eyes, and I said, no, I'm
not opening my eyes because I knew from my own
investigations and research that these grays they're notorious for like
they are sorts of like a hypnotic effect on you,
and they can ma somehow with their eyes. They can
(44:02):
look into your eyes and they can have a powerful
effect on you and maybe wipe your memory, you see.
And I thought, now, I don't my memory wipe, so
you know, And anyway, I just I just ignore it
and I just kept my eyes. And then anyway, I
must have fell asleep, which is strange. You wouldn't think
(44:23):
that would be the normal way to react with you.
But but although the adrenaline was going through me and
I was like, you know, it was a shocking thing
to go through, I decided to just ignore it. Interest
But right away another one I woke up fairly recently,
(44:46):
within a week or two, and I was I was
aware of a female figure side of my bed again.
I put out some sort of a call in grassy
shues and my ancestors and that, and and I at
our here because of those ancestors, and you know, if
it wasn't for their mold and beer, you know, coming
down the line, the broodlines and there. And I was like,
(45:09):
and then I said, for I have I think, if
any any ancestors, I say, as long as you're the
real thing, and you know, like imitators or you know,
any if any ancestors or whatever one, since you get
into it and whatever. So I'll be proud to you know,
and so long as you don't scare the hell of me,
you know. And then I woke up to one nice
(45:31):
and I saw this female figure by side the bed.
It looked like she got an armful. Her hands were
like as wide as the shoulders apart. And he's like
like a greenery like herbs. Perhaps, I don't know. I
couldn't see any flowers on whatever it was where it
was like a bunch of greenery of some sort, which
(45:54):
I took to be planned substance. And you know, and
I remember the woman. I couldn't the life of me
tell you what the face was like, but I remember
the woman having like sort of coming down to the
shouldered hair with a little bit of a waving it
and okay, you know, and for some reason I reacted
(46:15):
badly and I was tending it to get away and
leave me alone and swore, you know. And it was
really sort of strange. And I realized that I thought,
oh no, I put my caller, didn't I if I?
And then I thought the point disappointed in me, that
I was silent and sort of basically and I was
(46:38):
stronger words and and I was I was really disappointed
in myself. But I remember resorted to a phrase, you
don't hear it in this day and age, with all
the words, are shating for this person to go away,
because I mean, you wake up in some reason in
your room. It does. It does battle to you, you know.
(47:00):
And then with all the words our shares in and
then I said, be gone, you know that be gone.
It was really weird. But I've had somebody touched me
a couple of times in bed. I found somebody touched
my man, the man my right hand. But my suster
(47:22):
told me she she had a touchy on the side
was she was standing, but not standing. She was sitting
in front of a fire, so you electric fire in
a bungalow and she said she was sure there's somebody
who touched her in the side. Just think it might
have been a muscle spis And when I says no,
I st I think it was genuinely somebody pushed me
(47:42):
in the side with an end.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
And there I explained to Steve that I think I
know who the lady with the herbs was, somebody while
she was holding in the north. We call them vessels,
but I think they're known mostly as bessons, And it's
a very early form of a witty's broom, and it
isn't done in a magical witches broom kind of way.
(48:05):
Absum is a bundle that can sweep away bad energy. Food, plants,
herbs and greener are healers in many different ways, being
around them, eating them, and using them in a way
to ridge yourself of anything that's holding you back. Steve's
(48:27):
ancestor was trying to give him that message it was
time to sweep the floor clean and start again, step
forward in a new way. We have these troughs and
ups and down snakes on that aers in life, and
sometimes life seems impossible, but eventually the clouds will clear.
(48:48):
Then you find a way to move on and absum
is an ancient way of I would suggest an ancestor
showing Steve what he needs to do. It must have
been absolutely terrifying seeing those two creatures near the cemetery,
and it must have been absolutely terrifying walking around Canic
(49:09):
Chase knowing that you're being followed. I know several people
that have been to the Chase and have come home
with something attached, myself included, and it was one of
the hardest battles of my life. I had to go
back and do a kind of best spell myself to
rid myself with it. It just attracts the negative for
(49:32):
some reason. And the land down theres as old as
the time, and I think Steve has a way of
tuning into that land. So I've suggested to him that
he tells me all of his experiences that he's had
from being a small boy, and I'll bring them to
you in a future episode. But until then, I hope
(49:56):
you like what I've shared tonight, because I have many
more like this to come. And whether you're a new
subscriber or an old subscriber, thank you for tuning in,
and I will be back at the same time on
the same day next week
Speaker 2 (50:16):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!