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May 23, 2025 39 mins
As Claire walked her dogs she heard a huge crash and both dogs instantly reacted to it and when she looked to her left to see what was worrying the dogs she was confronted with a creature that is said to be impossible here on our Isle. A creature of great size, hair covered, thicky muscled, that seemed impervious to her presence, so much so that Claire had no fear attached to this event. Worried for her dogs, yes. But not for herself. She left the area with the knowledge what she had suspected all along was true, she was not out here alone on the land.

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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, everybody, you're welcome back. Thank you very much for
joining me. My name is Deborah Hatswell and you're listening
to BBI Investigations. The account you will hear tonight is
the Scottish Borders Werewolf and Sasquatch at sunset today. I'm
sharing a series of voice messages that are part of
a conversation that's taken place between myself and now witness

(00:53):
in the case. I did not need to investigate this
case as our witnesses researched her own sighting in the
area where she lives for over twenty years now, and
she's seen some unusual activity that has taking place along
the river along with a number of cryptid creatures. Our
witness's name is Claire, like fitting a name that represents

(01:15):
the power of the new moon in the old tongue.
Claire duloom, as it was said, means new energy. And
as you listen, you'll see just how apt that they miss.
For Claire, she's deeply connected to the Earth, nature and
all its cycles. She spends hours on end in a
beautiful border lands between Scotland and England on the northeast

(01:36):
coast where the Northumberland Hills met the wildness of the
Scottish landscape. Claire lives along the River Tweed, a river
that has witnessed centuries of human history. The evidence garnered
over centuries proves it is a place of prehistoric settlements,
ancient battles and worship sites, and its banks hold stories

(01:59):
and secrets long forgotten. As it winds between the two
countries in a plethora of picturesque scenery, it's easy to
see what they call this the home of the giants.
Claire is a deep interest in nature, but also in astrologer,
and she has found that there is a correlation between

(02:20):
the creatures people see and the connection to their burcharts
and their abilities to see them. It also connects to seasons,
periods of the moon, phases and important astrological events. And
she is also a qualified quantum hypnotherapist. Now Claire's not
looking for antis. Now she's not running in fear. She

(02:44):
sees the creatures as natural to this universe and part
of the all one. The only fear she had initially
was the impact that this would have for her dogs,
as they were in an unusual position and she had
no idea what the creature would do. Rather than me
explain the events. Let's see it from Claire, and she

(03:05):
recounts her story in her own words about her own experiences,
thoughts and feelings, and she shares the knowledge she's game
with us over the years.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I don't I didn't know who to talk to.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I've been trying to get hold of somebody in the
UK who's investigating this stuff for years. I've also been
privately investigating this for about twenty years. In this area
where I live, literally a stone's throat from the Scottish border.
I can walk half an hour and rock twenty minutes.
I'm in Scotland and I walk my dogs along there

(03:40):
and have done for years.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I actually seen sasquatch there.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
First encounter I had was two thousand and nine and
I was out walking my dogs. I heard a huge
crash in the woods. As I was walking along the woods.
I turned round. My dogs started barking and I saw
this huge, huge thing wards that classic panic me and
my dogs were going mad. I'm like the fiercest dog

(04:06):
mum in the world, the most protective dog mum in
the world. My first thought was big. I didn't even
get a chance to second glance it, but I just
want to get my dogs out of the way, so
they were barking. I didn't want to go into attack
or doing anything stupid, but I kind of just knew
in my soul what it was, probably because of the
work I do. I know that Sasquatch is real. So

(04:27):
I saw Sasquatch there. He does exist along the twill,
the tweed and the toil where they meet. It tends
to be. And one of the things I do find
a lot in terms of people that I know around
these parts who have also seen them. When I go
and look at the location that they give me, it's

(04:48):
going to be at a crossroads point. It's like where
rivers meet, where there's a more sort of energetic meeting point,
you're going to find those. I've also got all the
lay lines mapped out learn and you can guarantee that's
whether on the lay line, certainly that one up in Moncton.
I'm about to go up to Moncton in a couple
of months with my friends.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
We're going to go and check it out.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
So sasquatch a very very regularly along the tweed at
those meeting places, which because you constantly see the infamous
sort of pixelated predator, and you can actually see it
almost in the full outline at certain times of the evening.
That's another thing. There's certain times of the evening that

(05:31):
you're likely to see them usually about it's either season dependent.
I would say probably in the winter, I've monitored it,
you'll see them about half two three o'clock. You start
seeing them sort of move around. In the summer, you've
got to be there about ten eleven o'clock before you
get any kind of action. But I'm an hgo I'm
always out in nature of my dogs, and in the summertime,

(05:53):
i'm out all hours because of fortunately been up this high.
It doesn't get dark to or but we get pretty
much twenty four hours of daylight.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's like Alaska up here.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
You've got a lot of sasquatch first off, Second, the
were wolves.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's not dog man. I don't know. It's not a
dog man. I don't get that vibe.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I don't get any scary vibes from sasquatch either. Last
time I had an up closing personal sasquatch encounter was
the the winter solstice, so around the twentieth twenty first
of December, which is another The other thing I've also
found is that you're gonna see these things around certain

(06:33):
astrological aspects, certain natrological aspects. Also, you're gonna see them
around a new moon. A new moon is more powerful
than a full moon for seeing these things. From what
I from my personal experience. I'm not saying that's the
way it is. I'm not by any means saying that's
the way it is. I'm just saying, I'm just letting
you know what i've you know, research now, the were

(06:56):
wolves i've seen twice. First off, regularly sheep are found
mutilated around here. You know what's doing that? Unless it's
a big cat. Big cats have been seen. I have
not seen a big cat here personally, But what I
have seen is a very large black and brown, sort

(07:19):
of reddish large What I thought at first was a
dog running up a field literally just where from that area,
and I had to pull over and stop to see
what it was because I thought that, I thought, what
the hell is that? Because the shoulders was the first

(07:39):
thing that got me, because I thought that chest and shoulders,
because the way it was running is too wide to
be a dog. And then as I stopped and pulled
over because I was driving the car and I saw
it running up the hill and I thought, there's no
way that's a dog. That's too and I saw it
could see more clearly it was running in a gorilla
type way.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Okay, so that was my first encounter with this thing.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
And that's literally where I saw that was within a
couple of literally within a mile of my house.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So I saw that.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
A couple of months later, I was driving back on
that exact same way and I see a bipedal creature
standing in that field with a kind of I want
to say the head was pretty much like American werewolf
in London, exactly like American weave London, because I physically

(08:33):
jumped obviously because I was driving past and I saw it.
It's sort of like, you know, it sort of shook,
and all I remember seeing is the teeth.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I remember seeing it was standing there. It was the
teeth sort of.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Not growling or snarling, but just because the teeth were
naturally a little bit hanging outside of the mouth. It's
almost like again like the baboon sort of type.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's not cute.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Looking like a sort of dog head, you know, like
the dog sort of seal shape pad where you can
sort of it looks cute.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's not like that.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's more it is more sort of like the snout
is a little bit more sort of bashed in like
a baboo.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
And that's what I'm gonna say. Ugly looking thing.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
But it was definitely it was standing in that field
and I dove past it.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Now, going back.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
To the work I do with astrology, here's another part
of the work. I was going to say, the people
that I know in these parts, who I talk to
about witnessing these creatures, there is a signature to the
birth trot I eat. Certain people are going to have

(09:43):
more of a propensity to have I'm going to say
it like a relationship with these things than other people,
because I know you've probably heard it all by now.
But I don't feel threatened by these things at all.
And I know they wouldn't hurt me. I know they wouldn't.
In fact, quite the opposite, quite the opposite. I feel

(10:05):
like they would actually look after me. Everywhere along here,
this beautiful, untouched part of the UK that I live in,
rose and rose and rose and rows and rows of
hawthorns everywhere. Hawthorns are on the side of the road
on the side of the river bank. Now that's where

(10:27):
the wee folk live, the fairies live. Especially on the
winter solstice, you will hear you go to the right places.
One time I was out, and if you go camping,
which isn't too nice in December in Northumberland, but I
have done it or been it car camping or in
a van or something like that, you will see and

(10:50):
hear the fairy folk.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Every solstice.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
You just see the lights and you just go kind
of hear and go past like little muffled voices like
that kind of here that when you go out walking
at night, if you're out, probably about the time that
they like to come out, I call it. And a
lot of people around here I live, it's kind of
like because it's an untapped area if you can get

(11:14):
in with the local folk quite open about it, and
there's like set times of night that belongs to them
and belongs to us, so again telepathically letting them know
you're coming through. But when you walk along the riverbanks
at night's quite common, certainly after sunset, about an hour
after sunset in the summer, you will hear the fairy

(11:36):
folk jumping and skipping and kind of whooping and little
muffled voices in all along those hawthorns. This area is
just so alive and I obviously like the rest of
Scotland or a large part of the Highland Scotland though
because there's no bugger up here at the moment, hopefully
it stays that way.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
But this is a hot zone.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I'm not sure if you've been up here before, but
this is a really really like the paranormal activity is
just off the charts are in this area.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
So when I first saw the first incident was with sasquatch.
So that's one I mean, that would be my biggest
fear for these poor creatures if they were ever disclosed,
would be the idiots that would go out and do
this stuff, because these creatures are not going to hurt

(12:29):
you unless you're on to the teeth. And I've got,
you know, a pack of xcel bullies or rock Wilers,
and yeah, they're gonna flip in.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
We'll defend themselves, aren't they poor things? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
That side, So the first time I saw sasquatch, I
was out with my two dogs, my two large dogs,
and one was a black labrador and he and the
other one was a Dalmatian, and the dalmationion just started
going berserk bark, and I looked to my left.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I was walking down a.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Dirt track in a very heavily wooded area, so it
was like a mini not a forest, but it was
attached to so it was a vast.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Sort of wooded area.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I'd say, that's attached to a forest and another forest
that basically leads all the way down to the river tweed,
because again it's very vast up here.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So I turned to.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
My left and I saw, you know, my dogs barking,
and the other dog started barking, and they were sort
of jumping up as dogs do when they get really excited,
as if, oh, holy crap, we've got something that's bigger
than us type thing. Dogs starts sort of jumping up
to try and gain height. So I looked to my
left and I saw this thing shuffling in the woods. Now,

(13:48):
the first thing that I spotted was like this cone
shaped head at the top and obviously the size of
the shoulders, and it was a dark sort of brown
reddish sort of hint.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I just said, right, that's it.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Me and the door I was like, run, run round, round,
don't look back, because my only concern was that my
dogs would get into an argument with this thing and
they wouldn't win. And so my feeling afterwards was that
it wasn't harmful.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
I wasn't shaken up.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I was just more so surprised now from my experiences
of walking up and down the tweed, which I do
every single day, and I have done for the last
fifteen years because I have dogs and it's a beautiful
place to walk. I rescue dogs, so I've always got
dogs with me to knowing to being aware of them.

(14:42):
So I think once your own personal consciousness has expanded
to that level of being able to see these things,
or being open to see these things, if you're out
there at certain times. Like I said before, I'm an
astrolle I've noticed certain moon phases, certain astrological aspects that happen.

(15:08):
Astrology plays a role because the planets, whether people choose
to believe in astrology or not, is one hundred percent accurate.
They do affect us because the planets of we are
nothing more than a vibration the planets. Every single planet
vibrates on a different level when it's in. When the

(15:29):
planets move into a different sign. We feel that shift,
and those planets then affect us and what we are
actually you know, our own levels of consciousness and how
we are likely to experience things according to our own
specific natal charts. Usually when cryptids appear, there will be

(15:54):
usually there will be a certain planetary aspect.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Involving the planet.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Neptune is usually the planet that is very very active
when you see these creatures. And you will also find
that people who have a lot of Pisces energy like
self Deborah, or people who are very sort of Neptune dominant,
are more likely to see these things. And the reason

(16:23):
for that is when you have a heavy duty amount
of like Pisces or Neptune or the sign of Sagittaris
in your natal chart, it kind of gives you the
ability to see beyond the veil, which is where from
the line of work I have done with the quantum
healing hypnosis technique is I have been told time and

(16:48):
time again by people under hypnosis that these cryptids reside
on the lower fourth dimension. Now, because we live in
the third dimension, we're not able to see them that clearly,
But people who are a little bit more highly tuned
have done some work to expand their consciousness and have

(17:11):
the specific like natal placements or a certain sort of
natal placements in their natal astrological birth chart.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
And the predator.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Esque pixelation thing that everybody is reported seeing. I have
actually seen up close and personal. The moon fase was
a new moon. It was right near the solstice. Usually
on a new moon you're more likely to see them.
The actual outline itself is heavily pixelated, but what I
saw it stepped out in front of me.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Again, my dogs were with me. When they see them.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
They just kind of sort of look up and stare.
Certainly when it's like the predator kind of scenario. I
do not get any bad vibes from these things.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
One of the.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Reasons why is because of the work I've done. I
do walk around now sort of in my mind saying,
not gonna hurt you, guys.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I'm not here to harm you, I'm not here to
interfere with you.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I'm also somebody who like treats out of peanut butter
and porridge and nuts and things like that for the squirrels,
So I'm always out sort of handing those out.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I put sort of rodent vitamins in there.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
So because we have red squirrels here, so I want
to make sure they're fed and looks after. So I'm
one of those people that's out doing that a lot.
So I feel because of that, and I speak to
these things tell because I know those hellopathetically they kind
of cut they just sort of look the other way.
But like I said, one has actually stepped out in
front of me with the predator a pixelation, and I
could actually see the outline. It was a huge obviously

(18:47):
about I would say, about eight foot just the pixelation
up in front of me, and it just sort of
moved out of one tree, walked in front of me,
crossed my path and went to the other side. And
this was walking down a slope towards the river, a
quite high sort of slope down towards the river. I

(19:09):
didn't feel any fear. I didn't feel threatened. I just
sort of felt it was the energy I received from
it was you go about your business, from just going
about mine. There was nothing, nothing in the slightest that
was very troubling to me.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
And that is something that you see quite regularly.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
If you are in the heavily wooded pots walking along
the river bank, you will see the you know, the pixelation.
Sometimes I've seen it sort of. I usually sort of
see it out the corner of my eye, and it's usually,
like I say, around a new moon, when the planet
Neptune is making quite a strong aspect. The planet Neptune

(19:53):
has been very active. It's always very active whenever you
see these things. And yeah, so or during sad terrorist
season or Pisce season, which is as you know, spring
for Pisces and Sagittarist seasons always you know, November twentieth
to the twenty first of December, so you will, this
is really when they're sort of the veil was a

(20:14):
little bit thinner at that time also, So those have
been my encounters.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
The other encounter.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Obviously the wereworth Yeah, I've seen it running up a field.
I saw what I thought was a large black dog.
I stopped the car to watch it, and I thought,
that is no dog. And I thought that is not either,
and I thought, is it one of the big cats. No,
big cats do not run with a shoulder span that wide.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It was running like a gorilla.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Not so long after that drove past and I saw
it standing in the field like a bipedal dog. I
jumped out of my skin because I was driving past it.
I just remember seeing the feet, the teeth, and a
baboon type snout, but I remember seeing the lower the
actual bottom jaw that was quite very toothy sort of

(21:07):
bone jaw. And it's just you know, so yeah, I mean,
but as far as the sasquat one hundred percent they
are towards wondering about, they don't seem to be too
much of a problem as far as I'm concerned. The
only thing I've ever seen along there that is not
nice is I regularly I do see a lot of

(21:29):
sheep mutilations, and the sheep.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
The way that they are killed.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
As lastly, you know it is you can see it
hasn't been killed by anything that you can see it's
been mutilated.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You can tell it's not a big cat, and tell
it's not a dog.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
And I know it's graphic, but you know that, I
think you've heard you speak about this before, Deborah, that
if it's a dog or a big cat, they'll tend
to go for the.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Liver or the you know that part of the animal. First.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
No, you see these sheep sometimes and they're just ripped pieces,
I think, like a prey animal.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Is a little bit more strategic.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
A prey animal that we're aware of is a little
bit more strategic when they kill something.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I feel that Claire is a noticer of patterns, like myself,
and it would seem once again, we have the usual
patterns at play, and I've mentioned them many times before.
In the fact that Claire is a lader who lives
amongst nature and has done for decades, she has a
close affinity to it and with animals. In fact, she
rescues and heals them, and has done for the majority

(22:34):
of her life, and like many people before her who
are exactly the same, it was a simple dog walk
along the River Tweed in two thousand and nine that
brought her into contact with the first cryptid creature. As
Claire walked to dogs, she heard a huge crashing sound

(22:55):
and both dogs instantly reacted to it, And when she
looked to her left to see what was worrying the dogs,
she was confronted with the creature that is said to
be impossible here on our eye, a creature of great
size that's hair covered, thickly muscled. It seemed impervious to
her presence, so much so that she had no fear

(23:18):
attached to the event. He's worried for her dogs, yeah,
but not for herself. She left the area with the
knowledge that you know, she suspected all along this trip
she was not out here on her own, but like
so many others in the same situation, that sighting was
not to be her last. And as she searched for answers,

(23:41):
she also searched online in the hopes of finding someone
who would listen to her findings, but that never panned
out until we met. And we met online to her
chat and she opened up with her findings. After the
initial encounter with the creature on the dogwalk, begin to
notice what many of us would call the predator being

(24:05):
a being with no real body to speak of, but
a moving, prismatic creature that he's seen and reported often
in the UK he encounters with the beings. For Claire,
never fearful. It's more like, as she accepted the sasquatch
creature was real, another world began to open up for her,

(24:26):
like a door into a fairy land of legend.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
After that, she saw them so often she could time
their presence along the river and also notice a seasonal
shift in activity, and it was after this that Claire
saw the werewolf like creature that was moving like a
gorilla away from her.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
She stopped the car to watch it.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
She thought it was a large, muscular dog at first,
but its shoulders were far too wide for that. Like
the shops of Old, this was a creature all of
its own. And when the couple of weeks as she
drove down the same road, she saw the same creature,
and this time he was standing upright and two legs
like a human being as he watched her drive by.

(25:14):
He didn't hide from her, and it didn't approach her either.
I think it was more of a I know that
you see me and I see you and experience. Claire
described this being spatial features as baboon like with fang
teeth and a shorter muzzle than a domestic dog. To her,

(25:38):
it looked like the creature from the film An American
Way with in London, rather than an Alsatian or say
a German shepherd dog would look. Over time, she realized
that these creatures also have a seasonal and moon pattern correlation,
as to do the people that see them. If we

(26:00):
move the words bigfoot sasquatch, dog man, werewolf from the equation.
What we could be talking about could maybe be a
paranormal creature, a mystical being as old as time itself.
Yet we view them with a very modern eye, in
a very modern knowledge base. I suppose I'm trying to say,

(26:21):
is are the fay of old the creatures that we
see now as interchangeal beings? Is it us humans that
shape their appearance to feit what's acceptable to our in
our self? Or do they show themselves in different ways
to different people? Is a shock of old our modern

(26:45):
day dogma?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Now?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
The hairy boggets and woodwalls is now our British bigfoot,
sometimes called the UK wild man. For me, it seems
if our history changes, so do the names of the
beans we encounter, but the description, the habits, and the
known abilities are exactly the same. For example, in the

(27:13):
olden times, when things had gone missing from the farms
and small audiens, we used to blame it on the
fee to say, cattle field, blankets, straw and children go missing.
Tails and manes would be platted intricately, sometimes with flowers added,
and we'd curse the we folk for it. Some old
folk tales advised leaving the milk and on it a

(27:35):
plus sake the faith where I've taken reports of British
bigfoot in barns, even taking sheep of pigs raiding feed bins,
and in one case, repeated visits by a hairy humanoid
creature around harvest became the norm over the border in Scotland.
And there is a lady in a similar situation as

(27:56):
Claire who's walk the woods of Nann and Colburn forests
for deck and she's noticed the strangest of things. They
don't seem to stand out to the visitors in the forest.
She's seen the same fairy lights as Claire, sometimes called
ghost lights. You know. They appear at night and in
the daytime. In one instance, one light crossed the path

(28:20):
in front of her and she wants to rescue dogs
in the daytime. And both ladies live on the same coastline.
On several occasions the dogs have reacted in a way
that suggests that there was a large predator at the
site and refuse to carry on a route they normally love.
She has found day legs hung up in the trees,

(28:42):
stones and boulders on top of ten foot tree snaps,
an all manner of strange lights or sounds, glyphs and
woodland shelters. She's seen the same bulky dark figures that
the local report are stealing fish from the nets, or
they take items from the farm bildings, and on one
instant had half a salmon thrown at a family member.

(29:06):
His dog reacted to something growling just beyond the cottage
will and Nat sent the cats scurrying under their beds.
There have also been many cattle and sheep attacks here
and since the nineteen eighties that has been blamed on
large non native cats that have been set free in
the area. Now, many of these animals found have womb

(29:27):
patterns that do not fit that of a large cator
and domestic dog. In some area of Scotland, they have
been sheep found that have only had their liver taken
and their fleece is peel from the flesh in an
intricate way the same way a human would do it,
but the meat and the fleece are left behind, a
number of local farmers took to calling it the bone

(29:50):
crusher after many of their sheep had their spines or
bones crushed through. I live on the opposite coast as
both the ladies. I'm in the northwest of England, but
the same kind of creatures are reported here. They have
the same strange sheep and cattle pills. Several of the
kills here looked as if they used had been rammed

(30:11):
into a stone wall in twenty twenty one, and in
some cases the spines were actually twisted. One local farmer
now refuses to put his sheep in the field due
to this, and as members of a local paranormal team
seem to trespass on his fields constantly. It disturbs his
flock at vital time like tupping and landing time, and

(30:34):
that's had a large effect on his farm. And he's
not the only one. Several horse owners have reported experiences
with a creature that they call a winter hill beast
around their cattles or stables. Three women in a man
in twenty twelve during the Jubilee beacon Fire was followed
downhill by something that kept itself within the shadows at

(30:57):
all times. Their dog reacted to it and it growled loudly.
It shadowed them down the hill at one point, hurdling
a stone wall in one leap. Another group of folk
who took an alternative route down like copies guard were
also stopped, and that was on the same night. Not

(31:17):
too long ago, two men who were on the mall
really late at night walked into the car because of
his sheep had each rib cage torn apart. I was
contacted by one of the men's wives the next day,
and both men were happy to share their testimony as
to what happened to them that night. The men were

(31:39):
around three quarters of a mile away from the Chinese Gardens,
an area where there is a previous sighting of an
upright humanoid figure known as the bare Man of Ribbington,
seen by a woman as she crouched for a call
of nature. Now the men arrived butt out of their
car to off. Both men had talkees, and as they

(32:00):
walked they realized that they'd almost stepped into a carcass
of some kind. Shining their torches onto it, they both
saw a sheep. It seemed to have been almost pulled
in half. The carcass was steaming, even with the rain
and the colne eye, so it was probably seconds before

(32:21):
that it was killed, and whenever killed, it would not
be too far away. It was a very fresh kill.
One man described the carcass as unusual. The head was missing,
and the rib cage was snapped in two. As they
were discussing what animal could have made that kill, they

(32:42):
both heard a rumbling, bassy growling sound. Alarmed by this,
both men scanned the area around them but their torches,
looking to see what had growled at them in the night.
One of the men saw a dark, stocky outline that
seemed to have reddish eye shine, and he caught that

(33:02):
in his tarts like the shape dipped quickly out of
humor was gone. They both left quickly got back into
the car. Both men were really shaken up were still
in bewilderment. Even on making it to the car. They
didn't feel safe. The growls were around him and followed
and barked the whole way. The younger of the two

(33:24):
men stated that he fell almost hysterical, and he was
kind of laughing nervously due to his fear. You know
that he was feeling. He's not prepared to return up
that hill at night alone, which he's done many times
in the past before and never had a problem. He said,
as far as he was concerned, even if they were
both armed, it would have been impossible to shoot whateveryone's

(33:47):
out there with them due to the sheer size of
one of the dark shapes and the sound of the ground.
He turned his air rifle around to use it as
a bat at that point, as he knew shooting it
would be pointless. The remaining sheep in the field had
flocked together and looked scared and worried, and they were
acting really strange. The growling continued all through the event.

(34:12):
It was a loud, rumbling, growling noid. The younger of
the two men wondered if this could be paranormal, as
the ground was so scary, and they both felt watched
and starked all the way back to the car. It
was around midnight on a wet night in a desolate place,

(34:34):
and they saw no humans on the way in or
out of the area. The older man said, to cover
his fear, he joked, I think many bigger runs. They
pulled over at this point, trying to get themselves together.
They felt helpless, nervous. It was a sickening feeling, almost
like fighting in the dark. After the event, the men

(34:58):
tried to find the they heard using Google sounds and
known animal recordings here in the UK on the phone.
It did not find a match with anything. The only
sound that matched was a reported noise of a werewolf
on a recording on YouTube of the American Wolf in London.

(35:19):
Both men agreed the sound was the same as they'd
heard that evening. I feel at this point I should
point out that it's not just the areas I've mentioned
here tonight. We've been saying patterns, breaches and sightings. We
can replicate these cases in all of our counties, all
across the UK and island, even on our offshore islands.

(35:41):
There are cases just like this, some known, some forgotten,
some never told, from a time of different understanding. As
our forefather has tried to unravel the mystery of Defay
and all that contains, so do we with our modern
day creature. We don't understand them. We see them as

(36:03):
mystical and magical, and they could very well be that
Mona as an understanding that I don't have, so I'm
not coming from her perspective. I am hoping that she
could teach me and make me understand because patterns are
something that I can work with. But I can think
of several places off the top of my head where

(36:25):
we could go and almost read out the same story,
but just change the name of the witness. The situations
are similar. The witnesses themselves are similar. They're interested in
the subjects, you know, all manner of things, many of
them out walking, hiking, horse riding, as I do often

(36:48):
when I'm up on winter Hill. I don't ever forget
the creatures that have been reported there, and people think
I'm incredibly brave for doing it. But I have my
husband with me and a dog and a car that
I can jump in and get away as quickly as
I want. What about the loan traveler, the wild camper,

(37:08):
you know, the person out on the whole Lots of
people want the most fell runners, your manner of leisure.
Pursuits happen up there, and honestly, in the daytime it
is now absolutely crammed. If you went to the snapshot,
you can que an hour to get a coffee. And
the last guy you lived in that sold it because
of what he saw on the moor when night packed

(37:30):
his family up and moved back to Liverpool and lived
in his daughter's council house. So what every psalm must
have been bad? I go up there because I watched
the owls and the bats and the day in a
baby day and sheep, cows, horses.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
It's it's what I love.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
It's my I don't know my safe place, I suppose,
but I don't anger around much after dark, and like
I say, I normally have company with me.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's a mystical.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Place, you know. Nobody knows what white coppice is. It's
standing stones up there, the lay energy up there strong.
It's just one of those places, I suppose. And in
the next few months or so, I'll go out to
those places and actually recording them and share the sightings
with you in a smaller formats so they're easier to
take in. But I really enjoy sharing with you guys tonight.

(38:20):
Over the past couple of weeks, we've covered some really
good subjects and it's amazing to see the community growing
and accepting. I've got more interviews like this to come
that you can listen to, but please, it would be
really helpful if you could give us a like. If
you're not a subscriber, subscribe. A lot of my listeners
are not subscribed to me, and we have started a

(38:43):
TikTok channel and the description below has a link to
that TikTok channel where I'll be sharing witness reports, either
me in the area giving you the story, or the
witness themselves speaking about the event. I'm sure you'll enjoy
joy that. So until next time, I will bid you

(39:04):
all farewell the same day, same time next week. Good
Night everyone, m.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
H m.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
M m m m m hm hm hm
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