June 4, 2025 • 54 mins
Jay and Mark draft their favorite kill scenes from the Jaws franchise and try to figure out the plans of the shark in Jaws: The Revenge. Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am Mark Banana Boade Hoffmeyer.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Jay, the mayor of Shark City Clueers.
Welcome to you here board Deeply see the podcast. On
this show, weep into the entire Deep C trategy scene
by scene. We're doing it again, but this week is
a special episode. This week is the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws.
A little called Jaws. You may know of it, and
so to celebrate the fiftieth inversary of Jaws, We've already
talked about it on an episode before, but today we're
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going to celebrate the entire Jewels franchise, all four of
the films, specifically the ways characters are killed in them.
We're going to have a Jaws death draft. Mark and
I are going to go back and forth and pick
build our teams of our favorite deaths across the Jewels franchise,
a franchise that I think by Mike Well, I don't know.
I kind of counted vehicles as well, so I don't know,
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there's like twenty five ish deaths across if you count vehicles,
and you count characters who die in and come back
or people who die in Dreams, there's you know, but
we're not going to pick right all of them. We're
just gonna do our top ten across the two of us,
I think five each. But in preparations this show, I
watched all of these films again in the past three days,
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and that's the first time I've watched them all since
we covered them on the show. So we did Jaws,
I think last year. We had Jewels two, three and
four back in like twenty twenty one, so that was
only the second time I'd seen Jaws, three and four.
Just there's these films, like I co hosted a Sharp
Movie podcast and I'm just the Jaws franchise, not one
I'm very familiar. So it was great to dive back
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into these films and experience them again. And I just
got there's an ucoming show on a film called Cruel Jaws,
which is like try to be released as Jaws five.
Stole a bunch of footage and plot points from these
other films, and we've already recalled an episode with Kevin
Culp And I should have watched these films before watching
Cruel Jaws because there's a bunch of scenes like whole
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word for word dialogue ripped off in Cruel Jaws from
some of these films I didn't pick up. So when listens,
when you come around to listen to us about Cruel Jewels,
we didn't talk about that. I'm sorry, but that's for
another episode. This is this is the Jaws franchise. When
was the last time you saw these films before this episode?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
When we when I wrote the Deep Blue Seat, like
what shark movie is the most shark movie? And I
recorded all the shark time and kills and all of that.
So that was I don't know, a year ago.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Maybe, but these are like much much higher in your memory.
You've seen these bunch of full times than I.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh oh yeah, yeah yeah, I mean listen, I grew
up watching Jaws Revenge a lot. Jaws is my favorite film.
You know, Jaws two I probably watched more. I've watched
more than Jaws. Jaws three is cool, but it had
a bunch of adults, and like when I was a kid,
I just didn't feel like watching SeaWorld Shenanigans with you know,
Philip fit Fitzroyd's getting smushed and I just wasn't too
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into it. Like Joss two as the kids and you know,
Jaws four has a banana boat and it's insane, and
Jaws is just good. I think, like any age, you're
like this movie Wolves, so I it probably goes. The
ones I've watched the most are two, two, one, four, three,
and I love all of them. And I had to
analyze four to figure out how far the shark has traveled.
In Jaws the Revenge, I spent a lot of time
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with that movie.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Awesome. Yeah, I I didn't remember three fondly. I remember
like two and four as being fine, but I enjoyed
myself with allder them this time around, like to order
the stuff with the kids lashing the boats together at
the end. I think I remember like being annoyed with
that first time around, but this time this is great.
Like all these all these kids, you can they're kind
of distinct. They've done a decent enough job of introducing
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the woman saying I have a little bit of character,
and then then just trying to survive on all these
boats of ram together and nowhere with a shark around,
and like three is a bit of a down then.
I think, even even if you take away all of
the sea world of it all these days the.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Scheme bit is funny though, when that lady looks but
they pops up behind the skiers and lady looks back
and was like, ah, Like that's a very funny scene.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That still frustrates me that we can't talk about that
scene today because nobody dies and yeah, so many people
in the water and the shark gets none of them.
But like that, if we're doing our least favorite deaths
in the franchise, then the baby shark in Jaws three
just kind of rolling over on his back and like,
is such an awful, upsetting death.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
In this series, they spend a lot of time in
Jaws three, not with Jaws yeah or whatever shark it
is the mythical shark, like it's swallow people whole and
just pops up behind people.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And they spend a lot of time with characters who
disappeared two thirds of the way through and just never come back,
like Lea Thompson and Sean Brody just kind of like, oh, wait,
she got injured. We go to the hospital and you
gonna come back for the climb. Oh keep going, Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It's spent a lot of time with them like late
night swims and bars, and then they're not a factor
A factor.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Do you know how many miles the shark swims and
jaws revenge?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I don't please tell me. It goes fifty three because
it goes from New England to the Bahamas.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah. Yeah, So on the nineteenth, I'm thinking it sets
a booby trap and kills Sean Brody and because that's
a trap.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It's not a trap, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And then that's when the psychic link between Ellen and
the shark begins. That's what I think. And then I
think that the shark starts its journey on the twentieth
and then like because it knows Ellen won't go in
the water, so it's like it's like, okay, she won't
go into water, so I'm gonna swim to the Bahamas
and kill her son. So then it starts swimming and
the twenty first swimming, twenty second swimming to twenty third.
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That's when they the Brody's head to the Bahamas because
they have to do the funeral and all that of stuff.
Christmas Eve, the shark is still swimming. Christmas the shark
is almost there, so hang, so.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The shark heads to the Bahamas, not realizing that Michael
is coming back to where the shark started company.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, it's just it knows. It's easy. He knows he's
going back. I don't know why, but a psychic link
is created.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
But like, how how best would that shark be if
it gets the Bahamas and they overhears someone said that, oh, yeah,
Michael's just just gone back home to to Amazon, which
means friendship. He's just he's just going back there for
his brother's funeral. I was like, oh god, damn it,
and turns around stellswimming back back.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And forth, back and forth.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Michael.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It just goes down there like they're going down there.
There's a psychic link create because whenever she starts footing
the water, she knows the shark is there. And the
sharks always in the water. Maybe when the shark goes
out of the water, it connects with her.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's why it keeps on going out and roaring.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yes, exactly, So like Christmas the Sharks on the twenty six,
Allen senys that the shark is near because she steps
in the water. I'm not making this up. And then
that's what that's the day when it swims past. Mario
van Peebles and I like that. He wrote his own
dialogue and it tries to kill Mike Brody, but this
shark kind of sucks so it misses. But then if
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you watch the twenty seven nine thirty thirty one and
oh one, I'm sorry January first, not one the sharks,
they can't really stop moving, so it's just bopping around
the ocean. It's just waiting. It's just keeping close, maybe
hunting down some stuff, but it's not stopping. It can't stop,
won't stop ever stop. And then so on the second
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Mike and Mario chum the water and tagged the shark
with a tracker, so and I think the shark's kind
of pissed about this because it's like it got me.
I don't like this. And then they track it but
then they lose it. And then on the fourth the
shark attacks Mike but fails again. It's like, yeah, I'm
done with this, I'm done attacking this guy. So so
then that's when on the fifth, that's when the shark
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kills the banana boat.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Lady, because like, is it not going for THEA yeah,
oh no it is.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It misses, okay, like the shark has bad aim. Sure,
and then it's so yeah, and it misses and then
it's like you know what. Then then missus Brodie's like, yeah,
I gotta I gotta go take care of business. So
and then the shark chases her out and that's where
all the stuff happens, and it roars and it dies.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Sure does.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's my that's my thing. Yeah, And I
think it works because you have you have New Year's,
you have Christmas, and then like it does kill them
before Christmas and then so I figure out the dates.
How long does it because like they got to bury
him and plan the funeral and do all that. So
I think the Shark's like, I'm going that way. I
got this guy. I wonder if the shark's been trying
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to trap him for twenty years, just like waiting for
Like I wonder if there's been little booie traps that
you know, the shark doesn't fall for.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I mean, I feel like I'm pretty sure Sean's death
is gonna come up and I drop today.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, how do you do it? Then?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah? I do. Please, I'm gonna take Marge from Jaws two.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's a legend who pulls gasoline on herself.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, no, no, Marge is the lady who saves Shan.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
The go okay.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah so, but it's just kind of a so the
swimmer gets knocked off in the first one, Quinn gets killed.
Other people go diving. This lady is always looking out
for Sean, remember when they take him with and she's
the one who gives him a big bear hug and
she kind of she's like, sort of like Sean's protecting Yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You can come with us instead.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Super nice watches after him. But this death is mean
because the boat flips over, the hell copter blows up.
People follow their boats. She goes in the water to help.
She goes to help Sean and she gets him up
on the boat. But if you listen really closely, she's like,
will you help me? And she's like, I can't get up,
and then she just dies.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But she made sure she made sure Sean got out first,
made sure Sean. She made sure Sean, she made sure
she shaved Sean.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Made sure to save Sean.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, and then yeah, she gets gets got because she
saved him. Yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Man, even as a kid, I didn't like that death
because you know, hey, I'm gonna go skinny dipping and
listen totally. I've been you know, that doesn't mean you
get murdered. But it's like we're college kids. We're drunk,
we're gonna go like party in the water, and you
get eat by a stark at night, like you don't
go swim at night. And so she's just in the
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water on a boat and uh, the kid goes in
the water and she says him and dies. It's Amber Jay.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It certainly is. And I didn't I have annoyed. I didn't.
I didn't call that was her name. I feel bad
for not like I wrote down like a girl who
saves Sean, she had a name, so.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Long live large Marge sure of being a literative is
large Marge? Is that that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's from Pee Wee's Big Adventure there it is? I
do for that scene.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I have not seen that, but just it's just a
sad death to me.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah, like I like it. She is a hero,
and I hope that her sacrifice isn't like forgotten by
it because like you know, after I put everyone's trying
to get Sean back to the other boats, kind of
floating alone, and then like Brody comes along and says
the day and I just hope that they didn't. People
go like, oh this is that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Is to you?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Marge, You're the real Like yeah, without you, just Shan
will be dead. And then maybe Broad wouldn't come to
save this because his son wouldn't have been should have
got this Sean, he Sean's dead, and then he would
have just broke it inside and save them. So her
sacrifice that have them all to live.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Perhaps, Yeah, he just falls into the water. Yeah, yeah,
and he just leaves them behind, and like uh oh no, yeah,
but I don't know. I just that's a death that's always
stuck with me. And just the putting Shawn in danger
like that he had been in He's been in danger before,
but I don't know, just that that's a scene that
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he'll be in danger again. Yeah, Marge could have saved him.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Sure, Yeah, he's guardian Angel. She died.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Remember in Black Dynamite when Abraham Lincoln comes out to
help Black Dynamite Richard Nixon and Nixon. Ye, that'd be
great if Marge popped out and Jaws revenge as a
ghost and helped Sean fight the shark.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Would that be good? It would be so interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I mean, there's already a psychic link. Ye.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, why not have ghosts?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was like a voodoo
thing going on in the novelization. But yeah, bringing a
ghost two cares.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, have sharks that just explode you pop up like a.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Balloon doing Yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
My number one is also from Jaws too, and it
is the person I thought you were picking. Is the
lady on the boat who pours gasoline on herself and
then says, which is one of the one of those
scenes which is also in Cruel Jaws, which it's like
a team effort with someone else, wauched the flat. This
is glorious. I remember the first time I watched it
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thinking like wait what. I had to go back and
watch it again because it seems it makes no sense
as to what's going. Like she's she's like putting a
water skier and the water gets taken up by a shark,
and then her boat gets attacked and and she's like
what do I do? What I do? And she picks
up a can of fuel and starts like pouring it everywhere.
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I think, I assume she's trying to get it on
the shark, but she's Diane, Okay, Yeah, Diane's not doing
a good job of pulling it on the shark. She's
just pouring it all over the place and then launched
the flat just everything goes off, goes on fire, and
she explodes. She fully explodes. It's a massive explosion.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And it's kind of a wide shot too, and you
almost I didn't pause it, but maybe you can see
the body flying on fire too. Like there's a pretty
gnarly it's a gnarly death jay.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's uh. It's one of the few depths with today
where it's not someone being eaten by a shark. The
shark is involved, but the lady sets her on fire
and blows the bow up.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I kind of love the scars. Bruce set up pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And that's the other thing. Yeah, she she makes like
she angers the shark and and makes him piste off
everyone for the rest of the film with the distinct
scarring and burning on his face.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
It's great. I love when animals remember Grid from a VP.
A lot of people hate that movie, but I like it.
But they shoot the net because Colin Salmon gets cubed,
and then they shoot the net at the xenomorph, but
the acid blood burns it and then the thing is
called Grid and it kills two yaoutcha Like that thing
just looks awesome. I like when animals have interesting battle
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scars on him.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, all right, So do you that I'm gonna do
the unnamed man who's eaten alive by Bruce in the
first film in the Estuary, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
The Estuary Victim.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, because well here's the here's the reason. The overhead shot,
because that's sort that's the first time where you really
see the shark when you get a really good look
at it. And that overhead shot of it coming up
to that guy and knocking him in the water and
then the leg falls down all deep blue sy I
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just I think it looks incredible, and there's just something
about yeah, like you know, dogs dying Jaws, kids dying Jaws,
and I think that's kind of Spielberg pushing buttons or
who knows how much of it is in Benchley's book.
But this dude was just on the water. He's like, hey, guys,
and then the overhead shot is just insane. I love
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that overhead shot so much. Yeah, the watching the leg fall,
I mean, that's a lot of meat he's not eating,
but I like that the leg falls to the bottom
of the sea. That's a good shot.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Bruce isn't exactly like starving. And yeah he had Chrissy,
he had Pip, and he's had a little kitting. The
boy you have most of Ben Gardner, that's true. Yeah,
he's he's doing all right. Food wase I just.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Had all you can eat, but fee just taking scoops
out of everything.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, I do think this guy should have a name.
I do whatever I watched you. I do think he
looks he's kind of creepy. He's because like he's just
heading over to to Michael and Sewan the boys, just like, hey,
you guys need a hand, get some help, but they're
not in danger at that point. He's just kind of
heading over. I don't know, I'm not it's just a
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little bit suspect. I just get I get a vibe
from him that I'm like, I'm not that upset that
you've been eaten by a shot.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I just like the shot.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh yeah, the shots great. The SHOT's great. Just like,
there's this guy. This is a weird character to just
like introduce and then kill off without ready giving your name.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So if he's the unnamed man, the man with no name.
Let's the name on Clint.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, sure, Clint, I like it.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Clint eating alive.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Cl clint Estuary. Is his name, Clin.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Clint Estuary.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
R I p the names estuary, clint Estuary.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well like that. And he's in an estuary, and he's
he does that on purpose.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He's in. He lives there. That's his estuary. That's Clint's estuary.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like if your name was Jay Ali, would you just
hang out in alley's?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean yeah, I think I definitely live somewhere near
an alley. Yeah, in the same way that my purpose.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Absolutely. My last house. One of the reasons that we
bought it was because the post code had the initials
for Jurassic Park in It had JP at the end
of it. Great, that's so old.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Oh I like that?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
All right, all right? My number two Clinton Estuary.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Clint number two. My number two is one I don't
think a lot of people would pick. But I'm going
to take I'm going to take Philip fitz Royce from
because I mean, you mentioned this cinematography of clint Estuary's death.
Fitz's death is one that we see from the inside
of a sharque and that's pretty cool. We heard it,
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and we hear it. I don't know if they had
like a camera in a like in a shark been
on film before a real shark, doesn't matter, but it's
it's a cool shot. He's taken out. This guy's a
bit of a bit of an odd character. It's like he
brought in his kind of showbiz quint kind of a
guy expert killing these things, but likes to get the
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press for it. And you think he's going to be
some kind of a romantic rival for Dennis Quaid, but
he's not. Like because it's Dennis Quaid and and doctor
k Morgan. They have a real strong relationship. Yeah, they're great.
I love their relationship and they're like goofy together and
it's fun and like when fits arrives, there's no like
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friction and it's all just like that guy's here, a
bit of a twat and then we just move on,
move on. He's just he's just a guy who's there shark.
And I like the bravado that he has. I like
that he's he thinks he's great guessing about shot. He
has grenades which come in very useful at the end
of the film. But it's it's it's the whole shot
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from the inside of the shark as he's being eaten.
It's making him a number two.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It gets squished. You just listen to the car like
just and he was fighting the shark pretty good with
his flashlight, Like he put up a good brawl, and
he left the grenade in the shark's mouth, which is
doublely hand like very hand.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well it's it's very handy because it's in his hand.
It's like his hand hanging out of the shark's mouth
with grape and it's it's great.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh he is in there shark vision. I love that gene.
That's awesome. We're going I like it. We're going different.
I like these picks. We haven't taken Chrissy yet, but
I'm okay, I'm gonna with Sean Brody because that's that
shark set a trap. It's okay. Like remember when the
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shark is hanging around the orca in the second one, Yeah,
like I think it was check. I think it was
a relative, and so it was kind of like, hey,
I gotta I gotta investigate this. What happened to her?
What happened to Bruce and then you know, Bruce, then
that one blows up. A third one blows I think
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this one's like a private detective or like something odd
that the Jaws family hired to go kill the brodies. Sure,
because I think by this point they're like, we can't
we get we gotta get rid of this thing.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And so bounty Hunter Shark is exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Bounty hunter Shark. I think they saved up a lot
of money sent this shark out there.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Jango Finn, whoa, I like that. Schocko Fette, well, Charco Fett,
pick your favorite sharko Fett, Chuck Effet.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, sharko Fett. Well, that's good. So then they like
just it's from like the Mako. It's just great. I guess,
like the Great White Detective, I don't know, Great White
Shark Detective. And it goes out, but it logs out
piece like there's a piece of wood logged in the
booie the channel marker, and like the guy's reaching out
to grab it, gets his armpit off, and I swear
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to you, Sean's screaming for seven minutes and then you
cut the choir singing and just he's like ah, and
the kids are like oh. Then he's like ah, and
then the kids.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Go ah, and you're just you're not in Chune showing
singing and c you're.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
In f that'd be great if someone's like they're a
little off key. Then he hits key and then guys
so but like, you know what's funny. I thought he
was finished off, but then he comes back to scream more,
and then he's pulled underwater and he dies, and then
the log floats away and there's a close up of it, and.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Then when you see that, the log gets like beach.
But I think his first scream is he looks down
and sees his arms missing, and he screams missing. And
then there's just screams about the situation about yeah, but yeah,
it's it is.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It is a trap.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
This shark is set a trap. This is our first
ever smart shark in a film.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I think.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I wanted to see like teethmarks in the bit of
wood where it like try to get an imposition that
would be that would have been fun.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Just I think the sharks are trying it for years.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It's finally got it in there, finally.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like the Shark Family was like listen man, We've been
paying you for years. You got to make this work.
So yeah, I think he wanted to go after Sean
first because just the food situation. Yeah, and then he
was gonna go after Mike. But he knew that by
killing them he would bring miss Brodie out and if
she went to the Bahamas, they all gonna be like, Mom,
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stop being such a whimp. You only lost your husband
and your son. Get in the water. I'm gonna go
on the water regardless. They're terrible at her. Yeah, Sean Brody,
the screaming the first seven minutes of those movies, just
him screaming, and then Choir's going, oh, then he's dead.
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I thought he was.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You know, it's funny. In my notes I went finished
off and then my next notes note and that put
so much screaming pulled underwater insane.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He is still screaming to this day.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The shark is still screaming.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Wait, what's that from The Shark is Broken?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Is the way the shark is still swimming?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Is that? What that? I don't know, but I went
to see the Shark is Broken. If you do, you
know what the Shark is broken from? Now, it's a
play it's it's written by and starring Robert Shaw's son. Yes,
he is playing Robert Shaw. And there's a guy playing
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Richard Drapers and the guy playing Roy Scheider, and it's
just the three of them on the set of the
Orca floating at sea, waiting for in between shooting scenes
for Jewels. It's really good. It's a lot of it is,
like you know, Jeels is a fairly famous shoot. A
lot of what happened on it, and it does kind
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of hit a lot of the main notes, but it
is still a very interesting and extremely well performed. Like
he ensures the spitting image and sounds exactly like it's dad.
He he does the Indianapolis speech like in the play,
and he nails it and apparently nails it every night.
But I kind of like that the all three of
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the actors are played kind of like their characters, Like
Richard Draper's is a kind of annoying little little guy
who's not used to this old thing. Roy schod is
just kind of happy to be there. Robertaw is a nightmare.
But it's I recommend it if it was playing near
me and I was free, so when I'm sorry, it
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was great so if you have, if you have the
chance to go and see The Shark is Broken, I
recommend it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Oh so documentary. It's two thousand and seven, the shark
is still working about I see okay? I yeah, And
so the kid is still screaming and I want to
see this play.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, I think you should my number three. I'm going
to take Alex Kintner. I'm gonna take the Kindner boy
as my number three kid. Yeah. You know, you don't
see a lot of it's only a very very brief
like a couple of seconds, and if you don't know
what it is you're watching it, there's a real sense
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of like what did I just see? Because you just
see like in the distance, all these kids are playing
and there's like one kid on like an inflatable or
on zone and you just see kind of something like
spin above the waves, and it's if you like, slow
it down you think about it. Oh yeah, that's a shark.
That's a feeling. But just split second, it's a real
eerie like just a motion and I love I love
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that motion. It's really well done, and it's just that
little brief second like what is that? And that's one
of the whole one of the results of the shark
not working, everything being broken and terrible to film on
the set of Jaws. It's like, I want to have
a spoll. We probably wanted to have a full hug
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jumping down on a kid, but he couldn't. He just
had this like silhouette thing in the background, and I
think it's really well done.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, a kid murder, dog murder, Yeah, teenager murder like
Johns is mean.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Jews don't don't care.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Even quinkets just gobbled.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I mean, I feel like we should have picked him first,
but we didn't, and now he will listen.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'm going for Miss Ferguson from Jaws.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Revenge because, oh, the lady on thea boat, she only.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Dies because because our private detective has bad, bad aim.
And it's just like I don't know why, but when
I saw him on the banana boat, you know that
meme like there they are not a cell phone in sight.
People just live in their lives on a banana boat.
And the lady just gets destroyed. But yeah, he was
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just in a wrong place, wrong time, and the shark
has bad aim and it didn't kill the kid, it
killed her.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, that's I mean, that it sucks with her.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't know why. It's just like she gets
dragged underwater. I just the reason I like this is
because the shark misses the shark. Just the shark is
bad aim. It keeps trying to like a side that
has a great first kill and then just misses everybody
and then essentially impales itself on a boat.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah. I mean, maybe it doesn't miss Maybe it's like
it can't get to THEA because she's not on the end.
So maybe the shark's trying to take out the lady
on the end and then it will come back for
THEA and it's kind of work its way along the banana,
but but it kind of gets interrupted by the chaos.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That thing is huge though, that's it takes up a
lot of area. Maybe I don't know, maybe miss first.
It's just maybe this is more psychological games. Maybe it
did that to get Brody in the water to chase
it so she could get missus Brody.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Maybe it doesn't it doesn't care about fear. So the kids,
you're not you're not on my list, You're you're fine.
It's just it's just won't sell.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Them well, because that makes it very personal. Yeah, because
if you eat the little girl, she's not getting on
a boat to be like, I gotta go take care
of this thing. There's gonna be a lot of mourning.
And then I think everyone's gonna believe her and.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
They're gonna just like nuke the ocean from all big.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Av pr Yeah, there we go. But that's my fourth
thick and I'm sticking to it absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Did we say we're allowing shark death Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, Shirk deaths are totally allowed.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, all of the sharks have great deaths across the
whole franchise.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Smile.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
My favorite is in The Revenge. It's it's the least
is the least plausible the shark I've never really picked,
and I've always heard, oh the shark roars in The Revenge.
I kind of listened out for it this time, and
the first couple of times it like surfaces and there's
like a musical sting and thinking, oh, that's just the music.
But then yeah, later in the film, it definitely rules
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and that's not it's not a sharks do that's fine?
This isn't This isn't a shark because when they puncture
with the boat, it explodes and that's not what happens
with sharks. I like that. I like that they kill
it by confusing it. They like, you feed it this
pulse submitter and it keeps setting it off, and it
just like keeps on an attack it's insides. And then
Ellen's like, oh great. Whenever that happens. It kind of
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comes up on the surface and roars, so I can
both see and here it is. And she just points
to the ship at it and stabs it. She she
ERSU loves it and it explodes, and like, that's not
what happened to a shark. But I love that it does.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Even as a kid. That confused me. I just does
she just ram it?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Where did it go? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
That's a and then like people's labs, which makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah he was.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
He survived before Preacher did.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
True, well, but did he survive because he survives in
one cut but not in others because he originally died.
Don't think.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
He comes back with his accent. But still I love it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
In the original version, he didn't dive. In the revised ending,
they hear Jake calling for help seriously injured, but still
Jake died in the original cut.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Thank you. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
There's there's so few deaths in Jews Fall, and I
think we've got them all.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah we did. We got three of them, all three.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Unless you wanted to count Ellen dying in a dream,
then that's that's all the deaths in the film. Is
two people in a shot.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Okay, so wait are we on our fifth one? Right now?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
We're on our fifth one. We can do more if
you want, but this is we can.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Cover them all. But yeah, we got I mean just
watching Quinn get watching him fight with his little legs. Yeah,
we have to have Then he gets bit and then
he spits up the blood into his face and he's like,
oh my gosh, like that's a that's a brutal kill.
Christy gets it bad, and you know Christy gets a
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real bad but this you're just watching him spit blood
in his face.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, it's quince Steph.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Is is so long.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This isn't a complaint. It's a fantastic sequence. Watching all
of these films, I was just thinking, like, I want
to talk about this scene by scene or four of
these I want to talk about the scene by Maybe
we should who knows that, uh, but yeah, it just
just to watch the whole Quinn sequences is incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Screaming and spitting blood and just it's brutal, it really is.
So Yeah, that's my that's my pick for quin.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, we gotta have one. Quinn had to appear on
one of us. Absolutely for me, my fifth one, I'm
gonna I one of the kids in Jaws two called Eddie.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
He gets.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, he's the guy who's out with with what's the
name Tracy. I think the miss Amity Tina, that with Tina,
And yeah, he gets like taking off the boat, the
shark picks him up and just full speed rams into
the side of the boat.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That was brutal.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's that's like I like when the deaths are different
and it's not just like always in the shot he's dead,
but he's the shot of rams in to the side
of the boat and he's still alive after that. And yeah,
it's one of this save me me, say me, and
he's like gun under him back up on. Yeah, Eddie's
one number five because I I just it's just the
sight of him being being shot across the water so
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quickly and into the.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I think Jos too probably has the best deaths, Like
Marge eats it. Then we have the helicopter pilot. Originally
he was attacked, but they cut that out, so the
helicopter pilot just gets taken down. Eddie gets it hard.
The orca gets killed.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, hell screen Yeah, uh, Diane and Terry.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Terry's skiing, she gets it. She gets fast like the
unnamed scuba divers get eaten.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And then I don't know that Brucesette kind of goes
down like a chump is what they call it here.
I'm reading it like just kind of hey, come over
here and bite this power cable.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I mean it's it's a different way of taking a
shock out at least it's not just shoot it, uh,
and it is.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
What if it just went under him and then popped up.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Heinen comes in from behind, that would suck.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So another shark comes out and then bites the line.
I watch your cute itself and Brody.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
They're hunting like raptors, and so I like at the
end of Jaws when Brody takes out the first one,
he's like, smile, he's on a bitch and shoots it
and there's no one else around to see him. Get
off that cool quick, and I don't think he does
I think this is the story Brody's talent to people.
And I was there, the mask was almost in the water,
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and I just I kept shooting and I kind of
lined up my shirt. I was like, smile, your son
of a bitch, and I shot it and it blew up.
Whereas the second time around, there's a whole bunch of
people around, and so he doesn't have a cool quip
because he's like telling the story and he's like and
then I said, oh, I didn't say anything because the
kids were not saying. I just like, come here, open wide.
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That's not as good.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
That's what it says, open wide, right, Yeah, that's that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That's his cool quip is the open wide up b
which will only be good if Brody had become a dentist.
But he hadn't become a dentist. He's still a cop.
He's learned how to kind of learned how to use
a vote.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Doesn't he say, say, ah, does you come on open wide?
Open wide?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Say ah, I recommend flossing. Yeah, floss with this, that
would work with the electric cable.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh I like that. Yeah. Then the thing just burns.
I like that. It got caught on fire. Then gets shocked,
and then the third one goes down by grenade. I'm
very convenient grenade Brodie. Just I don't know if i'd
want him floss my teeth. So if he just be
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looking out at the beach the whole time.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
If you had to pick one of the shuck deaths
from one of the unpicked shock deaths to be on
your team, which would you pick, Well.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know it's great, so smile, you shown a bit.
I never knew what he said until years later, because
it was always just maybe I said a VHS copy
and you smile.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
He was run.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm like, what's he saying? I never really knew while
you shut up a birch, So that one never worked.
I think just as far as oh what, just the stabbing,
because it has the amount of things that have to
go right for missus Brodie to stab that thing.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna take that. Yeah, sure, Okay, do we
want to stop at five? We'll keep going.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I mean we haven't really talked much Joss. Three D.
There's fish, there's a dead little shark. There's what Shelby,
Randy and Ed. But those there's like this scene where
a guy's welding underwater fixing something. And then the shark.
He's looking around at where is it?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Where is it? I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Then he looks around and then he gets them. It's like,
where does this thing is giant?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well, maybe that's the baby. Oh nocause it's not because
it just matched the bite radius. They say the end,
it's not. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
A boat who gets pulled down. There's no like great
depths in that.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
So but when when Shelby is killed, they then like
have his autopsy laid like much later, and he looks bad.
There is like preachers living in him and around, and
like they show him to the Dennis guaide has a
little look and almost goes to throw up. And then
Kay has rips the cover and exposes this whole Torso
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it's just his whole side is missing and gaping. Oh
that's awful, but yeah, Shelby's are pretty good. Good death.
Calvin's nephew is like one of the guys. He calls
him nephew. Assume he's just one of the guys in
the control room who gets just taken out at the
end when the shark busts into the control room. Oh yeah,
he's just like trying to there's two of the Calvin's
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trying to he takes one of them. He saves one person,
but not the other Red I think so, yeah, it
was nef and he just gets kind of taken out
just because he's there.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
He didn't need to.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
There's an adult taking a thing from the film that
to kill this guy. He's just because we never see
these characters again after after they escape or not. Just
it just it just gets hen.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah Fred Fred, Yeah, he's in the control room and
then he just gets charmed and starks fifth and final victim. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I always think that fits his other guy, Jack the
Hiss like cameraman. He to me is a prime fodder
in these kinds of films. So that oh yeah, we
bring in this like Shark Hunter hero and he's got
this just this guy, this like brash, brusque older guy
with him. He's gonna be eaten soon, don't you worry,
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and he suffves the film. It's one of those like
wait that that guy surived. Okay, sure, that's odd.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
That movie makes many odd decisions.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yes, it does. Putting the whole thing in SeaWorld.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I think all the people that I would want to
be like, if I was any character from this, I
would least want to be Fred because you're just a
random guy working in a control room and a giant
shark gets you. It's like, how did Mark Itt got
well banana boat?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
What?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
How did Mark go scuba diving? Oh? How did market eating?
He was out with a bunch of his friends and
he got rammed into the side of a boat. He
went pain Yeah, exactly, he went skinny dipping like yeah,
like oh Mark, but yeah, this one is just what
happened to Mark. He's in a control room and he
just got eaten.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Oh all right, what like what happened did he? How
with all the shock he just busted in?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
It was just kind of anecd like a footnote on
the whole events of the whole film or the whole story,
Like he just kind of got died at the end. Yeah,
is fine, people, this.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Mark's trying to kill this shark, right, he gets smalled,
whole crushed alive, but he's holding this grenade grew grenade, see,
and that grenade that he has blows up the shark later,
so it's like he killed the shark.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Nice. But there's this other guy for like Fred, he
just kind of died between Mark getting in with the
grenade and then exploding that he did. He's just kind
of wrong place, wrong time. He didn't do.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Anything to help.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Oh hint. He was just kind of neutral, just kind
of just kind of Fred already, you know, just just
just kind of Fred.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Like if I was shown, I would have a tattoo
of Marge just on my back, you know, I would
have her face. I would have long Live Marge.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
March forever.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, Marge forever, just you know, just m wait m
four e. I would have that army.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, that means wait.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
About don't worry about it even a gang no.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
And then but yeah, and then Leah Thompson convinced him
to go over his face and go back the water.
And then in the next film she's not to be
seen and he gets in bow Shark.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
So maybe she got hired by them.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, Thompson is in league with the sharks.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Maybe she is a shark.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Maybele A Thompson is a shark. Yeah, I'm sure she
has a character name jews three there it is what
is Kelly and Bukowski shark And that's an anagram of uh, there's.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
No h oh.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Well, cac Yeah, wait wait cab cab.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I just think if I was wondering if you could
spell shark with Elizabeth name, but there's no h oh
ah oh well, but that's theory to bed.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yep, she was hired. This is the long game they're playing.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's just the long game.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
They can I get her.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
She's part of it. M h.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
So yeah, that's we did all the kills. I do.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Like the just the random fish head floating at the
starge was three D as well. It's just like, hey,
what three D stuff can we start this film with.
It's like stuff coming at you. So I was a
fish just a fish head kind of rotating in the
middle of the screen, just kind of rotating there. It's terrifying.
It's not it's just a fish spinning the spinning a
fish head. Uh, just choice.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
What characters should have died?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Well, that fits his that guy, Yeah, the mayor, Oh
my gosh, should have died in two different films.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I just like, I wish a big The crowd picks
him up and throws him in the water.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
We trusted you again, and.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
They throw them into the estuary, just a mob of
angry people, and then he gets eaten in the most
violent way imaginable over the course of several minutes, and
the entire mob is gone, Ah, okay, we're gonna go
to jail.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
But then the shark just swims away. That's all I wanted.
I just wanted to eat the mayor. I just what
I wanted to do. We're good now. I do think
as much as I like the character of Jake, I
don't like that he kind of survives, like comes back,
because he is in that shark's mouth being eaten. It
feels like when he has exploded, he like survives because
he explodes out of the shark. It's just because he
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was like being digested in the shark around him just
kind of disappears. That's how it feels like he survived,
which nuts.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
And I love.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I love Michael Kine as Hogy, but I do feel like, no,
I don't want him Touse. I want Ellen. I feel
like Allen maybe shit.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
In the revenge. You know what. At the end, right,
Mike dies, Hogy dies. She's left alone on the boat.
Everyone's dead. The shark looks at her and winks and
just goes away.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah it's square now. And then she goes back, your
family took my family, I'd take your family.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, and then she's just left there as like a
broken shell of a human. And then the next one's
just her sobbing Jaws. Jaws five, she becomes a scuba
diver and goes after the shark. She gets a submarine
and she goes. She finds where she hires a detective
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to go into the ocean to find the shark family.
Then she's on a revenge mission and it just becomes
ugly and like she realizes that revenge has cost her
everything as she's slaughtering this like you know what I mean. Yeah,
she's fitting business.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
She becomes Jesus, she becomes Nova from the shot her
franchise just trying to kill every shark because they.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Have gotten that. Yeah. Yeah, she's just going through the
ocean with with explosives. Yeah, she's like enough of them,
they'll come after me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I think she would definitely regret his decisions of faking
Chills and his main characters, like one of the most
heroic characters in the first film, all of the positive Ones,
turns her into this shuk hunting maniac.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
She captures one of the sharks and like does a
reservoir dog stuck in the middle with you. Scene of
just cutting off its fins while she's dancing, like she
has it hanging on the boat so all the other
sharks can see it and she's just dancing slicing off
while it's still alive.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Jesus, that's like Megan.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
And all the sharks are gone. We created a monster.
We are no longer the monsters, but we created one.
And then they're like, we offer ourselves up. She's like,
it's too late, we wish.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
To join you. Yeah, we are Elan Brodie were Ellen Birdie.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
She has a split personality the whole time, and the
captain of the boat is actually her.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Wait, she is the shark.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, she's every time. Yeah. Yeah, And then you do
flashbacks where they explain everything.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
This feels like the film. What the other twin is
writing an adaptation? Well, Brodie is the shock she's hunting.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Well, I like that. It's like a metaphor, you know,
the guys, it's a metaphor.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, it's a metaphor. Yeah, great, wonderful. Any other characters
you think should have died?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I mean maybe Dreyfus, Yeah, yeah, he's in that. It's
kind of a cop out. He's like, well, I just
go swim behind this rock, but yeah, you need to leave.
John Jaws wouldn't be a blockbuster if everyone died.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, yeah, Brodi's at the end. He needs to have
someone to talk to as their swimming back.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Oh hey, you gotta swim back. So yeah, I mean
he has to live. Just all the kids on those
boats in the second one.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
All of them too. That's who should have died. Some
of the bloody surfers skis in three definitely should Yeah,
a lot of kids do survive into Yes, that's a
lot of kids. Only ready only march from that group
four march.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
For everyone on the banana boat. They all go headfirst
into the shark.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
The shot pops the banana boat and it just slides
off into the air, just disappears.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
It bites it, and then all the people and then
and the al a sudden we just see the bodies
slowly falling from space onto land on the sang dang
it Seago stop pecking him like the wind picks up
just as he bites the banana boat and then they
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go flying and his body splat.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
And Jason Statham should have of course he.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Should have been in these films. I should have died
in them. Yeah, she'd be Michael Kane's son. Hoy Jr.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Hoy Jr. Well, I like that. We did it, Jay,
We did it.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Mark Great. I don't know if we kind of put
this up to vote one are we're just gonna like, hey, listen,
that was our teams.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Nos, our teams.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, so you had Marge Clinton, Estuary, Sean Brady, Miss
Ferguson and Quint. I had Diane Fitz, Alex Kinner, the
shark from Joseph Orange and Eddie, and none of us
took Christy Watkins or the other three sharks.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, we had Quinn. Okay, good, that's fine, you know.
I mean Chrissie's death is it's not really because it's
the first one, but it is just she's in the
water and the sharks tashes around with her for a bit.
It's a fairly standard. Nothing against it. It's a great death,
but as it's not like noteworthy compared to other death
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by sharks across this franchise. I didn't get ramded.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's not she's not on a banana boat.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, great, Oh that's been our celebration for
the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. I hope you enjoyed it.
It was great watching all these films again. Do you
have anything to plug? Mark? Oh no, hang on, hang on? Sorry?
What I worked out how much these films are set
at sea? That's going through this time around? Can I
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figure I'll watch them again?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
So why not?
Speaker 2 (50:31):
So listeners, as this is your first episode, welcome. Whenever
we cover individual films, I go through and work out
how much of the how deep on average the action
is in the film, how blue everything on the screen is,
and how much the film takes place at sea. That
last bit is a new addition, a relatively new addition.
So first time round, I just worked out how deep
and how blue. Now I've done how much at sea?
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These films are categories of how much they're at sea. Water,
so that's water that's not sea land, and the void,
which is where they credits or dream sequences take place.
So Deep Blue C takes place on average eighty nine
percent at C. Mark, would do you think Jaws, Jewels two,
Jaws three D and Jews the Revenger more or less
at C than Deep C?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yes? Yes, they all three D has the least.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, right, yes it does because it's not at sea.
It's in a watch park. It's like five point one
three percent of it takes place at sea, which is
before the shark gets into the park. Then it's all.
Then it's all just at water. For fifty four percent
of the film.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Four has the second least then one then two hy.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
So close it's four then two than one, but but
they're close. So four is forty seven point eight percent
at c that's one with the highest air quotion, which
is six. It's got planes in it, whereas Jews two
has a helicopter. But for less than two percent of
the film, Jewels three D fifty four percent. If it
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wasn't a water park and it was on the ocean,
Jaws three D would have won all of these four.
It would have been fifty nine percent on water because
fifty four percent is not on CEA. That yeah, geor'e
arranged to see Jaws two fifty three point two, Jaws
one fifty seven point two.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
The other ending is on the ending really is on sea,
all see there, yeah two problem.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, Jews two cuts back to land a lot more
some stuff, I mean, part of that JEWS two is
the air is the helicopter looking around, which is much
less for JEWS one. So even if you had that in,
it still doesn't doesn't beat Jews one. So in our
rankings we've only got twenty nine films on this list
so far, I'm building it up. Jaws is eighth, just
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below No Way Up, and then Jews two is is
Night to Blow Jaws. Then It's Moana is intense place.
Then Jewels Are Revenge is eleventh. Then prior to this morning,
Cruel Jewels survived Sharon Nader six, Sharkonnado. Then Jewels three
D is seventeenth on the list, just above Sharknader five,
and then a whole bunch of Ronny Harden films that
don't feature the water in them represent loads of them.
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So yeah, I just had to get that in quickly.
But mark anything to plug.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, just the movie sounds the flex podcast listen to
that nice. Well, I got some I got some new
Rotten Tomatoes stuff, so started in mark off my Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Awesome, uh well, cool listener as You can follow this
podcast at deep Blue Seapod on all social media, email
us deeply Seapod at gmail dot com and he to
give us your favorite deaths in the Jewels franchise. We'd
love to hear him. You can find some of my
writing ever at life versusfilm dot com, where I'm still
going through Twin Peaks for the first time. I'm now
on season two and I don't like the guy climbing
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over the so far not a fan of that guy.
Bad guy. I don't like him. And next week. I
think next week will be Proana to the Spawning with
Heather Backs and Delle Water as a very fun show.
I love recording with Heather. We had a great time. Chaos,
had a real great time talking about Fish. We were
not expecting to fly in that film. Just just a
(54:15):
real delight. But as for our celebration of Jaws, our
Jaws Death draft, I have been Jake LeWitt, I'm Mark
Halfmeyer and we'll deep blue see you next week, say
Ara
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am Mark Banana Boade Hoffmeyer.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Jay, the mayor of Shark City Clueers.
Welcome to you here board Deeply see the podcast. On
this show, weep into the entire Deep C trategy scene
by scene. We're doing it again, but this week is
a special episode. This week is the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws.
A little called Jaws. You may know of it, and
so to celebrate the fiftieth inversary of Jaws, We've already
talked about it on an episode before, but today we're
(00:41):
going to celebrate the entire Jewels franchise, all four of
the films, specifically the ways characters are killed in them.
We're going to have a Jaws death draft. Mark and
I are going to go back and forth and pick
build our teams of our favorite deaths across the Jewels franchise,
a franchise that I think by Mike Well, I don't know.
I kind of counted vehicles as well, so I don't know,
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there's like twenty five ish deaths across if you count vehicles,
and you count characters who die in and come back
or people who die in Dreams, there's you know, but
we're not going to pick right all of them. We're
just gonna do our top ten across the two of us,
I think five each. But in preparations this show, I
watched all of these films again in the past three days,
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and that's the first time I've watched them all since
we covered them on the show. So we did Jaws,
I think last year. We had Jewels two, three and
four back in like twenty twenty one, so that was
only the second time I'd seen Jaws, three and four.
Just there's these films, like I co hosted a Sharp
Movie podcast and I'm just the Jaws franchise, not one
I'm very familiar. So it was great to dive back
(01:48):
into these films and experience them again. And I just
got there's an ucoming show on a film called Cruel Jaws,
which is like try to be released as Jaws five.
Stole a bunch of footage and plot points from these
other films, and we've already recalled an episode with Kevin
Culp And I should have watched these films before watching
Cruel Jaws because there's a bunch of scenes like whole
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word for word dialogue ripped off in Cruel Jaws from
some of these films I didn't pick up. So when listens,
when you come around to listen to us about Cruel Jewels,
we didn't talk about that. I'm sorry, but that's for
another episode. This is this is the Jaws franchise. When
was the last time you saw these films before this episode?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
When we when I wrote the Deep Blue Seat, like
what shark movie is the most shark movie? And I
recorded all the shark time and kills and all of that.
So that was I don't know, a year ago.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Maybe, but these are like much much higher in your memory.
You've seen these bunch of full times than I.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh oh yeah, yeah yeah, I mean listen, I grew
up watching Jaws Revenge a lot. Jaws is my favorite film.
You know, Jaws two I probably watched more. I've watched
more than Jaws. Jaws three is cool, but it had
a bunch of adults, and like when I was a kid,
I just didn't feel like watching SeaWorld Shenanigans with you know,
Philip fit Fitzroyd's getting smushed and I just wasn't too
(03:06):
into it. Like Joss two as the kids and you know,
Jaws four has a banana boat and it's insane, and
Jaws is just good. I think, like any age, you're
like this movie Wolves, so I it probably goes. The
ones I've watched the most are two, two, one, four, three,
and I love all of them. And I had to
analyze four to figure out how far the shark has traveled.
In Jaws the Revenge, I spent a lot of time
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with that movie.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Awesome. Yeah, I I didn't remember three fondly. I remember
like two and four as being fine, but I enjoyed
myself with allder them this time around, like to order
the stuff with the kids lashing the boats together at
the end. I think I remember like being annoyed with
that first time around, but this time this is great.
Like all these all these kids, you can they're kind
of distinct. They've done a decent enough job of introducing
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the woman saying I have a little bit of character,
and then then just trying to survive on all these
boats of ram together and nowhere with a shark around,
and like three is a bit of a down then.
I think, even even if you take away all of
the sea world of it all these days the.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Scheme bit is funny though, when that lady looks but
they pops up behind the skiers and lady looks back
and was like, ah, Like that's a very funny scene.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That still frustrates me that we can't talk about that
scene today because nobody dies and yeah, so many people
in the water and the shark gets none of them.
But like that, if we're doing our least favorite deaths
in the franchise, then the baby shark in Jaws three
just kind of rolling over on his back and like,
is such an awful, upsetting death.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
In this series, they spend a lot of time in
Jaws three, not with Jaws yeah or whatever shark it
is the mythical shark, like it's swallow people whole and
just pops up behind people.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And they spend a lot of time with characters who
disappeared two thirds of the way through and just never come back,
like Lea Thompson and Sean Brody just kind of like, oh, wait,
she got injured. We go to the hospital and you
gonna come back for the climb. Oh keep going, Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
It's spent a lot of time with them like late
night swims and bars, and then they're not a factor
A factor.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Do you know how many miles the shark swims and
jaws revenge?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I don't please tell me. It goes fifty three because
it goes from New England to the Bahamas.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah. Yeah, So on the nineteenth, I'm thinking it sets
a booby trap and kills Sean Brody and because that's
a trap.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
It's not a trap, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And then that's when the psychic link between Ellen and
the shark begins. That's what I think. And then I
think that the shark starts its journey on the twentieth
and then like because it knows Ellen won't go in
the water, so it's like it's like, okay, she won't
go into water, so I'm gonna swim to the Bahamas
and kill her son. So then it starts swimming and
the twenty first swimming, twenty second swimming to twenty third.
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That's when they the Brody's head to the Bahamas because
they have to do the funeral and all that of stuff.
Christmas Eve, the shark is still swimming. Christmas the shark
is almost there, so hang, so.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
The shark heads to the Bahamas, not realizing that Michael
is coming back to where the shark started company.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, it's just it knows. It's easy. He knows he's
going back. I don't know why, but a psychic link
is created.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
But like, how how best would that shark be if
it gets the Bahamas and they overhears someone said that, oh, yeah,
Michael's just just gone back home to to Amazon, which
means friendship. He's just he's just going back there for
his brother's funeral. I was like, oh god, damn it,
and turns around stellswimming back back.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And forth, back and forth.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Michael.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It just goes down there like they're going down there.
There's a psychic link create because whenever she starts footing
the water, she knows the shark is there. And the
sharks always in the water. Maybe when the shark goes
out of the water, it connects with her.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's why it keeps on going out and roaring.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yes, exactly, So like Christmas the Sharks on the twenty six,
Allen senys that the shark is near because she steps
in the water. I'm not making this up. And then
that's what that's the day when it swims past. Mario
van Peebles and I like that. He wrote his own
dialogue and it tries to kill Mike Brody, but this
shark kind of sucks so it misses. But then if
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you watch the twenty seven nine thirty thirty one and
oh one, I'm sorry January first, not one the sharks,
they can't really stop moving, so it's just bopping around
the ocean. It's just waiting. It's just keeping close, maybe
hunting down some stuff, but it's not stopping. It can't stop,
won't stop ever stop. And then so on the second
(07:40):
Mike and Mario chum the water and tagged the shark
with a tracker, so and I think the shark's kind
of pissed about this because it's like it got me.
I don't like this. And then they track it but
then they lose it. And then on the fourth the
shark attacks Mike but fails again. It's like, yeah, I'm
done with this, I'm done attacking this guy. So so
then that's when on the fifth, that's when the shark
(08:02):
kills the banana boat.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Lady, because like, is it not going for THEA yeah,
oh no it is.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It misses, okay, like the shark has bad aim. Sure,
and then it's so yeah, and it misses and then
it's like you know what. Then then missus Brodie's like, yeah,
I gotta I gotta go take care of business. So
and then the shark chases her out and that's where
all the stuff happens, and it roars and it dies.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Sure does.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's my that's my thing. Yeah, And I
think it works because you have you have New Year's,
you have Christmas, and then like it does kill them
before Christmas and then so I figure out the dates.
How long does it because like they got to bury
him and plan the funeral and do all that. So
I think the Shark's like, I'm going that way. I
got this guy. I wonder if the shark's been trying
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to trap him for twenty years, just like waiting for
Like I wonder if there's been little booie traps that
you know, the shark doesn't fall for.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I mean, I feel like I'm pretty sure Sean's death
is gonna come up and I drop today.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, how do you do it? Then?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Do you want to go first?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah? I do. Please, I'm gonna take Marge from Jaws two.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's a legend who pulls gasoline on herself.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, no, no, Marge is the lady who saves Shan.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
The go okay.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah so, but it's just kind of a so the
swimmer gets knocked off in the first one, Quinn gets killed.
Other people go diving. This lady is always looking out
for Sean, remember when they take him with and she's
the one who gives him a big bear hug and
she kind of she's like, sort of like Sean's protecting Yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You can come with us instead.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Super nice watches after him. But this death is mean
because the boat flips over, the hell copter blows up.
People follow their boats. She goes in the water to help.
She goes to help Sean and she gets him up
on the boat. But if you listen really closely, she's like,
will you help me? And she's like, I can't get up,
and then she just dies.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But she made sure she made sure Sean got out first,
made sure Sean. She made sure Sean, she made sure
she shaved Sean.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Made sure to save Sean.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, and then yeah, she gets gets got because she
saved him. Yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Man, even as a kid, I didn't like that death
because you know, hey, I'm gonna go skinny dipping and
listen totally. I've been you know, that doesn't mean you
get murdered. But it's like we're college kids. We're drunk,
we're gonna go like party in the water, and you
get eat by a stark at night, like you don't
go swim at night. And so she's just in the
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water on a boat and uh, the kid goes in
the water and she says him and dies. It's Amber Jay.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It certainly is. And I didn't I have annoyed. I didn't.
I didn't call that was her name. I feel bad
for not like I wrote down like a girl who
saves Sean, she had a name, so.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Long live large Marge sure of being a literative is
large Marge? Is that that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's from Pee Wee's Big Adventure there it is? I
do for that scene.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I have not seen that, but just it's just a
sad death to me.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah, like I like it. She is a hero,
and I hope that her sacrifice isn't like forgotten by
it because like you know, after I put everyone's trying
to get Sean back to the other boats, kind of
floating alone, and then like Brody comes along and says
the day and I just hope that they didn't. People
go like, oh this is that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Is to you?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Marge, You're the real Like yeah, without you, just Shan
will be dead. And then maybe Broad wouldn't come to
save this because his son wouldn't have been should have
got this Sean, he Sean's dead, and then he would
have just broke it inside and save them. So her
sacrifice that have them all to live.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Perhaps, Yeah, he just falls into the water. Yeah, yeah,
and he just leaves them behind, and like uh oh no, yeah,
but I don't know. I just that's a death that's always
stuck with me. And just the putting Shawn in danger
like that he had been in He's been in danger before,
but I don't know, just that that's a scene that
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he'll be in danger again. Yeah, Marge could have saved him.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Sure, Yeah, he's guardian Angel. She died.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Remember in Black Dynamite when Abraham Lincoln comes out to
help Black Dynamite Richard Nixon and Nixon. Ye, that'd be
great if Marge popped out and Jaws revenge as a
ghost and helped Sean fight the shark.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Would that be good? It would be so interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I mean, there's already a psychic link. Ye.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, why not have ghosts?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was like a voodoo
thing going on in the novelization. But yeah, bringing a
ghost two cares.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, have sharks that just explode you pop up like a.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Balloon doing Yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
My number one is also from Jaws too, and it
is the person I thought you were picking. Is the
lady on the boat who pours gasoline on herself and
then says, which is one of the one of those
scenes which is also in Cruel Jaws, which it's like
a team effort with someone else, wauched the flat. This
is glorious. I remember the first time I watched it
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thinking like wait what. I had to go back and
watch it again because it seems it makes no sense
as to what's going. Like she's she's like putting a
water skier and the water gets taken up by a shark,
and then her boat gets attacked and and she's like
what do I do? What I do? And she picks
up a can of fuel and starts like pouring it everywhere.
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I think, I assume she's trying to get it on
the shark, but she's Diane, Okay, Yeah, Diane's not doing
a good job of pulling it on the shark. She's
just pouring it all over the place and then launched
the flat just everything goes off, goes on fire, and
she explodes. She fully explodes. It's a massive explosion.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And it's kind of a wide shot too, and you
almost I didn't pause it, but maybe you can see
the body flying on fire too. Like there's a pretty
gnarly it's a gnarly death jay.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's uh. It's one of the few depths with today
where it's not someone being eaten by a shark. The
shark is involved, but the lady sets her on fire
and blows the bow up.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I kind of love the scars. Bruce set up pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And that's the other thing. Yeah, she she makes like
she angers the shark and and makes him piste off
everyone for the rest of the film with the distinct
scarring and burning on his face.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
It's great. I love when animals remember Grid from a VP.
A lot of people hate that movie, but I like it.
But they shoot the net because Colin Salmon gets cubed,
and then they shoot the net at the xenomorph, but
the acid blood burns it and then the thing is
called Grid and it kills two yaoutcha Like that thing
just looks awesome. I like when animals have interesting battle
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scars on him.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, all right, So do you that I'm gonna do
the unnamed man who's eaten alive by Bruce in the
first film in the Estuary, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
The Estuary Victim.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, because well here's the here's the reason. The overhead shot,
because that's sort that's the first time where you really
see the shark when you get a really good look
at it. And that overhead shot of it coming up
to that guy and knocking him in the water and
then the leg falls down all deep blue sy I
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just I think it looks incredible, and there's just something
about yeah, like you know, dogs dying Jaws, kids dying Jaws,
and I think that's kind of Spielberg pushing buttons or
who knows how much of it is in Benchley's book.
But this dude was just on the water. He's like, hey, guys,
and then the overhead shot is just insane. I love
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that overhead shot so much. Yeah, the watching the leg fall,
I mean, that's a lot of meat he's not eating,
but I like that the leg falls to the bottom
of the sea. That's a good shot.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Bruce isn't exactly like starving. And yeah he had Chrissy,
he had Pip, and he's had a little kitting. The
boy you have most of Ben Gardner, that's true. Yeah,
he's he's doing all right. Food wase I just.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Had all you can eat, but fee just taking scoops
out of everything.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, I do think this guy should have a name.
I do whatever I watched you. I do think he
looks he's kind of creepy. He's because like he's just
heading over to to Michael and Sewan the boys, just like, hey,
you guys need a hand, get some help, but they're
not in danger at that point. He's just kind of
heading over. I don't know, I'm not it's just a
(17:16):
little bit suspect. I just get I get a vibe
from him that I'm like, I'm not that upset that
you've been eaten by a shot.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I just like the shot.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh yeah, the shots great. The SHOT's great. Just like,
there's this guy. This is a weird character to just
like introduce and then kill off without ready giving your name.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So if he's the unnamed man, the man with no name.
Let's the name on Clint.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay, sure, Clint, I like it.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Clint eating alive.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Cl clint Estuary. Is his name, Clin.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Clint Estuary.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
R I p the names estuary, clint Estuary.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well like that. And he's in an estuary, and he's
he does that on purpose.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He's in. He lives there. That's his estuary. That's Clint's estuary.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like if your name was Jay Ali, would you just
hang out in alley's?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean yeah, I think I definitely live somewhere near
an alley. Yeah, in the same way that my purpose.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Absolutely. My last house. One of the reasons that we
bought it was because the post code had the initials
for Jurassic Park in It had JP at the end
of it. Great, that's so old.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Oh I like that?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
All right, all right? My number two Clinton Estuary.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Clint number two. My number two is one I don't
think a lot of people would pick. But I'm going
to take I'm going to take Philip fitz Royce from
because I mean, you mentioned this cinematography of clint Estuary's death.
Fitz's death is one that we see from the inside
of a sharque and that's pretty cool. We heard it,
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and we hear it. I don't know if they had
like a camera in a like in a shark been
on film before a real shark, doesn't matter, but it's
it's a cool shot. He's taken out. This guy's a
bit of a bit of an odd character. It's like he
brought in his kind of showbiz quint kind of a
guy expert killing these things, but likes to get the
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press for it. And you think he's going to be
some kind of a romantic rival for Dennis Quaid, but
he's not. Like because it's Dennis Quaid and and doctor
k Morgan. They have a real strong relationship. Yeah, they're great.
I love their relationship and they're like goofy together and
it's fun and like when fits arrives, there's no like
(19:44):
friction and it's all just like that guy's here, a
bit of a twat and then we just move on,
move on. He's just he's just a guy who's there shark.
And I like the bravado that he has. I like
that he's he thinks he's great guessing about shot. He
has grenades which come in very useful at the end
of the film. But it's it's it's the whole shot
(20:06):
from the inside of the shark as he's being eaten.
It's making him a number two.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It gets squished. You just listen to the car like
just and he was fighting the shark pretty good with
his flashlight, Like he put up a good brawl, and
he left the grenade in the shark's mouth, which is
doublely hand like very hand.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well it's it's very handy because it's in his hand.
It's like his hand hanging out of the shark's mouth
with grape and it's it's great.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh he is in there shark vision. I love that gene.
That's awesome. We're going I like it. We're going different.
I like these picks. We haven't taken Chrissy yet, but
I'm okay, I'm gonna with Sean Brody because that's that
shark set a trap. It's okay. Like remember when the
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shark is hanging around the orca in the second one, Yeah,
like I think it was check. I think it was
a relative, and so it was kind of like, hey,
I gotta I gotta investigate this. What happened to her?
What happened to Bruce and then you know, Bruce, then
that one blows up. A third one blows I think
(21:15):
this one's like a private detective or like something odd
that the Jaws family hired to go kill the brodies. Sure,
because I think by this point they're like, we can't
we get we gotta get rid of this thing.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And so bounty Hunter Shark is exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Bounty hunter Shark. I think they saved up a lot
of money sent this shark out there.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Jango Finn, whoa, I like that. Schocko Fette, well, Charco Fett,
pick your favorite sharko Fett, Chuck Effet.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, sharko Fett. Well, that's good. So then they like
just it's from like the Mako. It's just great. I guess,
like the Great White Detective, I don't know, Great White
Shark Detective. And it goes out, but it logs out
piece like there's a piece of wood logged in the
booie the channel marker, and like the guy's reaching out
to grab it, gets his armpit off, and I swear
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to you, Sean's screaming for seven minutes and then you
cut the choir singing and just he's like ah, and
the kids are like oh. Then he's like ah, and
then the kids.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Go ah, and you're just you're not in Chune showing
singing and c you're.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
In f that'd be great if someone's like they're a
little off key. Then he hits key and then guys
so but like, you know what's funny. I thought he
was finished off, but then he comes back to scream more,
and then he's pulled underwater and he dies, and then
the log floats away and there's a close up of it, and.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Then when you see that, the log gets like beach.
But I think his first scream is he looks down
and sees his arms missing, and he screams missing. And
then there's just screams about the situation about yeah, but yeah,
it's it is.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
It is a trap.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
This shark is set a trap. This is our first
ever smart shark in a film.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I think.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I wanted to see like teethmarks in the bit of
wood where it like try to get an imposition that
would be that would have been fun.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Just I think the sharks are trying it for years.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It's finally got it in there, finally.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like the Shark Family was like listen man, We've been
paying you for years. You got to make this work.
So yeah, I think he wanted to go after Sean
first because just the food situation. Yeah, and then he
was gonna go after Mike. But he knew that by
killing them he would bring miss Brodie out and if
she went to the Bahamas, they all gonna be like, Mom,
(23:44):
stop being such a whimp. You only lost your husband
and your son. Get in the water. I'm gonna go
on the water regardless. They're terrible at her. Yeah, Sean Brody,
the screaming the first seven minutes of those movies, just
him screaming, and then Choir's going, oh, then he's dead.
It's horrible.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I thought he was.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You know, it's funny. In my notes I went finished
off and then my next notes note and that put
so much screaming pulled underwater insane.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He is still screaming to this day.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
The shark is still screaming.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Wait, what's that from The Shark is Broken?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Is the way the shark is still swimming?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Is that? What that? I don't know, but I went
to see the Shark is Broken. If you do, you
know what the Shark is broken from? Now, it's a
play it's it's written by and starring Robert Shaw's son. Yes,
he is playing Robert Shaw. And there's a guy playing
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Richard Drapers and the guy playing Roy Scheider, and it's
just the three of them on the set of the
Orca floating at sea, waiting for in between shooting scenes
for Jewels. It's really good. It's a lot of it is,
like you know, Jeels is a fairly famous shoot. A
lot of what happened on it, and it does kind
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of hit a lot of the main notes, but it
is still a very interesting and extremely well performed. Like
he ensures the spitting image and sounds exactly like it's dad.
He he does the Indianapolis speech like in the play,
and he nails it and apparently nails it every night.
But I kind of like that the all three of
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the actors are played kind of like their characters, Like
Richard Draper's is a kind of annoying little little guy
who's not used to this old thing. Roy schod is
just kind of happy to be there. Robertaw is a nightmare.
But it's I recommend it if it was playing near
me and I was free, so when I'm sorry, it
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was great so if you have, if you have the
chance to go and see The Shark is Broken, I
recommend it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Oh so documentary. It's two thousand and seven, the shark
is still working about I see okay? I yeah, And
so the kid is still screaming and I want to
see this play.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, I think you should my number three. I'm going
to take Alex Kintner. I'm gonna take the Kindner boy
as my number three kid. Yeah. You know, you don't
see a lot of it's only a very very brief
like a couple of seconds, and if you don't know
what it is you're watching it, there's a real sense
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of like what did I just see? Because you just
see like in the distance, all these kids are playing
and there's like one kid on like an inflatable or
on zone and you just see kind of something like
spin above the waves, and it's if you like, slow
it down you think about it. Oh yeah, that's a shark.
That's a feeling. But just split second, it's a real
eerie like just a motion and I love I love
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that motion. It's really well done, and it's just that
little brief second like what is that? And that's one
of the whole one of the results of the shark
not working, everything being broken and terrible to film on
the set of Jaws. It's like, I want to have
a spoll. We probably wanted to have a full hug
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jumping down on a kid, but he couldn't. He just
had this like silhouette thing in the background, and I
think it's really well done.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, a kid murder, dog murder, Yeah, teenager murder like
Johns is mean.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Jews don't don't care.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Even quinkets just gobbled.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I mean, I feel like we should have picked him first,
but we didn't, and now he will listen.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'm going for Miss Ferguson from Jaws.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Revenge because, oh, the lady on thea boat, she only.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Dies because because our private detective has bad, bad aim.
And it's just like I don't know why, but when
I saw him on the banana boat, you know that
meme like there they are not a cell phone in sight.
People just live in their lives on a banana boat.
And the lady just gets destroyed. But yeah, he was
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just in a wrong place, wrong time, and the shark
has bad aim and it didn't kill the kid, it
killed her.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, that's I mean, that it sucks with her.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't know why. It's just like she gets
dragged underwater. I just the reason I like this is
because the shark misses the shark. Just the shark is
bad aim. It keeps trying to like a side that
has a great first kill and then just misses everybody
and then essentially impales itself on a boat.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah. I mean, maybe it doesn't miss Maybe it's like
it can't get to THEA because she's not on the end.
So maybe the shark's trying to take out the lady
on the end and then it will come back for
THEA and it's kind of work its way along the banana,
but but it kind of gets interrupted by the chaos.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That thing is huge though, that's it takes up a
lot of area. Maybe I don't know, maybe miss first.
It's just maybe this is more psychological games. Maybe it
did that to get Brody in the water to chase
it so she could get missus Brody.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Maybe it doesn't it doesn't care about fear. So the kids,
you're not you're not on my list, You're you're fine.
It's just it's just won't sell.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Them well, because that makes it very personal. Yeah, because
if you eat the little girl, she's not getting on
a boat to be like, I gotta go take care
of this thing. There's gonna be a lot of mourning.
And then I think everyone's gonna believe her and.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
They're gonna just like nuke the ocean from all big.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Av pr Yeah, there we go. But that's my fourth
thick and I'm sticking to it absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Did we say we're allowing shark death Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, Shirk deaths are totally allowed.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, all of the sharks have great deaths across the
whole franchise.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Smile.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
My favorite is in The Revenge. It's it's the least
is the least plausible the shark I've never really picked,
and I've always heard, oh the shark roars in The Revenge.
I kind of listened out for it this time, and
the first couple of times it like surfaces and there's
like a musical sting and thinking, oh, that's just the music.
But then yeah, later in the film, it definitely rules
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and that's not it's not a sharks do that's fine?
This isn't This isn't a shark because when they puncture
with the boat, it explodes and that's not what happens
with sharks. I like that. I like that they kill
it by confusing it. They like, you feed it this
pulse submitter and it keeps setting it off, and it
just like keeps on an attack it's insides. And then
Ellen's like, oh great. Whenever that happens. It kind of
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comes up on the surface and roars, so I can
both see and here it is. And she just points
to the ship at it and stabs it. She she
ERSU loves it and it explodes, and like, that's not
what happened to a shark. But I love that it does.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Even as a kid. That confused me. I just does
she just ram it?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Where did it go? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
That's a and then like people's labs, which makes me happy.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah he was.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
He survived before Preacher did.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
True, well, but did he survive because he survives in
one cut but not in others because he originally died.
Don't think.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
He comes back with his accent. But still I love it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
In the original version, he didn't dive. In the revised ending,
they hear Jake calling for help seriously injured, but still
Jake died in the original cut.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Thank you. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
There's there's so few deaths in Jews Fall, and I
think we've got them all.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah we did. We got three of them, all three.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Unless you wanted to count Ellen dying in a dream,
then that's that's all the deaths in the film. Is
two people in a shot.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Okay, so wait are we on our fifth one? Right now?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
We're on our fifth one. We can do more if
you want, but this is we can.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Cover them all. But yeah, we got I mean just
watching Quinn get watching him fight with his little legs. Yeah,
we have to have Then he gets bit and then
he spits up the blood into his face and he's like,
oh my gosh, like that's a that's a brutal kill.
Christy gets it bad, and you know Christy gets a
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real bad but this you're just watching him spit blood
in his face.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, it's quince Steph.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Is is so long.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This isn't a complaint. It's a fantastic sequence. Watching all
of these films, I was just thinking, like, I want
to talk about this scene by scene or four of
these I want to talk about the scene by Maybe
we should who knows that, uh, but yeah, it just
just to watch the whole Quinn sequences is incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Screaming and spitting blood and just it's brutal, it really is.
So Yeah, that's my that's my pick for quin.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, we gotta have one. Quinn had to appear on
one of us. Absolutely for me, my fifth one, I'm
gonna I one of the kids in Jaws two called Eddie.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
He gets.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, he's the guy who's out with with what's the
name Tracy. I think the miss Amity Tina, that with Tina,
And yeah, he gets like taking off the boat, the
shark picks him up and just full speed rams into
the side of the boat.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That was brutal.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's that's like I like when the deaths are different
and it's not just like always in the shot he's dead,
but he's the shot of rams in to the side
of the boat and he's still alive after that. And yeah,
it's one of this save me me, say me, and
he's like gun under him back up on. Yeah, Eddie's
one number five because I I just it's just the
sight of him being being shot across the water so
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quickly and into the.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I think Jos too probably has the best deaths, Like
Marge eats it. Then we have the helicopter pilot. Originally
he was attacked, but they cut that out, so the
helicopter pilot just gets taken down. Eddie gets it hard.
The orca gets killed.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, hell screen Yeah, uh, Diane and Terry.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Terry's skiing, she gets it. She gets fast like the
unnamed scuba divers get eaten.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And then I don't know that Brucesette kind of goes
down like a chump is what they call it here.
I'm reading it like just kind of hey, come over
here and bite this power cable.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I mean it's it's a different way of taking a
shock out at least it's not just shoot it, uh,
and it is.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
What if it just went under him and then popped up.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Heinen comes in from behind, that would suck.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So another shark comes out and then bites the line.
I watch your cute itself and Brody.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
They're hunting like raptors, and so I like at the
end of Jaws when Brody takes out the first one,
he's like, smile, he's on a bitch and shoots it
and there's no one else around to see him. Get
off that cool quick, and I don't think he does
I think this is the story Brody's talent to people.
And I was there, the mask was almost in the water,
(35:23):
and I just I kept shooting and I kind of
lined up my shirt. I was like, smile, your son
of a bitch, and I shot it and it blew up.
Whereas the second time around, there's a whole bunch of
people around, and so he doesn't have a cool quip
because he's like telling the story and he's like and
then I said, oh, I didn't say anything because the
kids were not saying. I just like, come here, open wide.
(35:44):
That's not as good.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
That's what it says, open wide, right, Yeah, that's that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That's his cool quip is the open wide up b
which will only be good if Brody had become a dentist.
But he hadn't become a dentist. He's still a cop.
He's learned how to kind of learned how to use
a vote.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Doesn't he say, say, ah, does you come on open wide?
Open wide?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Say ah, I recommend flossing. Yeah, floss with this, that
would work with the electric cable.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Oh I like that. Yeah. Then the thing just burns.
I like that. It got caught on fire. Then gets shocked,
and then the third one goes down by grenade. I'm
very convenient grenade Brodie. Just I don't know if i'd
want him floss my teeth. So if he just be
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looking out at the beach the whole time.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
If you had to pick one of the shuck deaths
from one of the unpicked shock deaths to be on
your team, which would you pick, Well.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know it's great, so smile, you shown a bit.
I never knew what he said until years later, because
it was always just maybe I said a VHS copy
and you smile.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
He was run.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm like, what's he saying? I never really knew while
you shut up a birch, So that one never worked.
I think just as far as oh what, just the stabbing,
because it has the amount of things that have to
go right for missus Brodie to stab that thing.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna take that. Yeah, sure, Okay, do we
want to stop at five? We'll keep going.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I mean we haven't really talked much Joss. Three D.
There's fish, there's a dead little shark. There's what Shelby,
Randy and Ed. But those there's like this scene where
a guy's welding underwater fixing something. And then the shark.
He's looking around at where is it?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Where is it? I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Then he looks around and then he gets them. It's like,
where does this thing is giant?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well, maybe that's the baby. Oh nocause it's not because
it just matched the bite radius. They say the end,
it's not. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
A boat who gets pulled down. There's no like great
depths in that.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
So but when when Shelby is killed, they then like
have his autopsy laid like much later, and he looks bad.
There is like preachers living in him and around, and
like they show him to the Dennis guaide has a
little look and almost goes to throw up. And then
Kay has rips the cover and exposes this whole Torso
(38:19):
it's just his whole side is missing and gaping. Oh
that's awful, but yeah, Shelby's are pretty good. Good death.
Calvin's nephew is like one of the guys. He calls
him nephew. Assume he's just one of the guys in
the control room who gets just taken out at the
end when the shark busts into the control room. Oh yeah,
he's just like trying to there's two of the Calvin's
(38:42):
trying to he takes one of them. He saves one person,
but not the other Red I think so, yeah, it
was nef and he just gets kind of taken out
just because he's there.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
He didn't need to.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
There's an adult taking a thing from the film that
to kill this guy. He's just because we never see
these characters again after after they escape or not. Just
it just it just gets hen.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah Fred Fred, Yeah, he's in the control room and
then he just gets charmed and starks fifth and final victim. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I always think that fits his other guy, Jack the
Hiss like cameraman. He to me is a prime fodder
in these kinds of films. So that oh yeah, we
bring in this like Shark Hunter hero and he's got
this just this guy, this like brash, brusque older guy
with him. He's gonna be eaten soon, don't you worry,
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and he suffves the film. It's one of those like
wait that that guy surived. Okay, sure, that's odd.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
That movie makes many odd decisions.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yes, it does. Putting the whole thing in SeaWorld.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I think all the people that I would want to
be like, if I was any character from this, I
would least want to be Fred because you're just a
random guy working in a control room and a giant
shark gets you. It's like, how did Mark Itt got
well banana boat?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
What?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
How did Mark go scuba diving? Oh? How did market eating?
He was out with a bunch of his friends and
he got rammed into the side of a boat. He
went pain Yeah, exactly, he went skinny dipping like yeah,
like oh Mark, but yeah, this one is just what
happened to Mark. He's in a control room and he
just got eaten.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Oh all right, what like what happened did he? How
with all the shock he just busted in?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
It was just kind of anecd like a footnote on
the whole events of the whole film or the whole story,
Like he just kind of got died at the end. Yeah,
is fine, people, this.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Mark's trying to kill this shark, right, he gets smalled,
whole crushed alive, but he's holding this grenade grew grenade, see,
and that grenade that he has blows up the shark later,
so it's like he killed the shark.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Nice. But there's this other guy for like Fred, he
just kind of died between Mark getting in with the
grenade and then exploding that he did. He's just kind
of wrong place, wrong time. He didn't do.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Anything to help.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Oh hint. He was just kind of neutral, just kind
of just kind of Fred already, you know, just just
just kind of Fred.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Like if I was shown, I would have a tattoo
of Marge just on my back, you know, I would
have her face. I would have long Live Marge.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
March forever.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, Marge forever, just you know, just m wait m
four e. I would have that army.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, that means wait.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
About don't worry about it even a gang no.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
And then but yeah, and then Leah Thompson convinced him
to go over his face and go back the water.
And then in the next film she's not to be
seen and he gets in bow Shark.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
So maybe she got hired by them.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, Thompson is in league with the sharks.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Maybe she is a shark.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Maybele A Thompson is a shark. Yeah, I'm sure she
has a character name jews three there it is what
is Kelly and Bukowski shark And that's an anagram of uh, there's.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
No h oh.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Well, cac Yeah, wait wait cab cab.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I just think if I was wondering if you could
spell shark with Elizabeth name, but there's no h oh
ah oh well, but that's theory to bed.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yep, she was hired. This is the long game they're playing.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's just the long game.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
They can I get her.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
She's part of it. M h.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
So yeah, that's we did all the kills. I do.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Like the just the random fish head floating at the
starge was three D as well. It's just like, hey,
what three D stuff can we start this film with.
It's like stuff coming at you. So I was a
fish just a fish head kind of rotating in the
middle of the screen, just kind of rotating there. It's terrifying.
It's not it's just a fish spinning the spinning a
fish head. Uh, just choice.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
What characters should have died?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Well, that fits his that guy, Yeah, the mayor, Oh
my gosh, should have died in two different films.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I just like, I wish a big The crowd picks
him up and throws him in the water.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
We trusted you again, and.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
They throw them into the estuary, just a mob of
angry people, and then he gets eaten in the most
violent way imaginable over the course of several minutes, and
the entire mob is gone, Ah, okay, we're gonna go
to jail.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
But then the shark just swims away. That's all I wanted.
I just wanted to eat the mayor. I just what
I wanted to do. We're good now. I do think
as much as I like the character of Jake, I
don't like that he kind of survives, like comes back,
because he is in that shark's mouth being eaten. It
feels like when he has exploded, he like survives because
he explodes out of the shark. It's just because he
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was like being digested in the shark around him just
kind of disappears. That's how it feels like he survived,
which nuts.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
And I love.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
I love Michael Kine as Hogy, but I do feel like, no,
I don't want him Touse. I want Ellen. I feel
like Allen maybe shit.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
In the revenge. You know what. At the end, right,
Mike dies, Hogy dies. She's left alone on the boat.
Everyone's dead. The shark looks at her and winks and
just goes away.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah it's square now. And then she goes back, your
family took my family, I'd take your family.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, and then she's just left there as like a
broken shell of a human. And then the next one's
just her sobbing Jaws. Jaws five, she becomes a scuba
diver and goes after the shark. She gets a submarine
and she goes. She finds where she hires a detective
(45:21):
to go into the ocean to find the shark family.
Then she's on a revenge mission and it just becomes
ugly and like she realizes that revenge has cost her
everything as she's slaughtering this like you know what I mean. Yeah,
she's fitting business.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
She becomes Jesus, she becomes Nova from the shot her
franchise just trying to kill every shark because they.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Have gotten that. Yeah. Yeah, she's just going through the
ocean with with explosives. Yeah, she's like enough of them,
they'll come after me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
I think she would definitely regret his decisions of faking
Chills and his main characters, like one of the most
heroic characters in the first film, all of the positive Ones,
turns her into this shuk hunting maniac.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
She captures one of the sharks and like does a
reservoir dog stuck in the middle with you. Scene of
just cutting off its fins while she's dancing, like she
has it hanging on the boat so all the other
sharks can see it and she's just dancing slicing off
while it's still alive.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Jesus, that's like Megan.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
And all the sharks are gone. We created a monster.
We are no longer the monsters, but we created one.
And then they're like, we offer ourselves up. She's like,
it's too late, we wish.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
To join you. Yeah, we are Elan Brodie were Ellen Birdie.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
She has a split personality the whole time, and the
captain of the boat is actually her.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Wait, she is the shark.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, she's every time. Yeah. Yeah, And then you do
flashbacks where they explain everything.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
This feels like the film. What the other twin is
writing an adaptation? Well, Brodie is the shock she's hunting.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Well, I like that. It's like a metaphor, you know,
the guys, it's a metaphor.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, it's a metaphor. Yeah, great, wonderful. Any other characters
you think should have died?
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I mean maybe Dreyfus, Yeah, yeah, he's in that. It's
kind of a cop out. He's like, well, I just
go swim behind this rock, but yeah, you need to leave.
John Jaws wouldn't be a blockbuster if everyone died.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, yeah, Brodi's at the end. He needs to have
someone to talk to as their swimming back.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Oh hey, you gotta swim back. So yeah, I mean
he has to live. Just all the kids on those
boats in the second one.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
All of them too. That's who should have died. Some
of the bloody surfers skis in three definitely should Yeah,
a lot of kids do survive into Yes, that's a
lot of kids. Only ready only march from that group
four march.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
For everyone on the banana boat. They all go headfirst
into the shark.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
The shot pops the banana boat and it just slides
off into the air, just disappears.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
It bites it, and then all the people and then
and the al a sudden we just see the bodies
slowly falling from space onto land on the sang dang
it Seago stop pecking him like the wind picks up
just as he bites the banana boat and then they
(48:51):
go flying and his body splat.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
And Jason Statham should have of course he.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Should have been in these films. I should have died
in them. Yeah, she'd be Michael Kane's son. Hoy Jr.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Hoy Jr. Well, I like that. We did it, Jay,
We did it.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Mark Great. I don't know if we kind of put
this up to vote one are we're just gonna like, hey, listen,
that was our teams.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Nos, our teams.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, so you had Marge Clinton, Estuary, Sean Brady, Miss
Ferguson and Quint. I had Diane Fitz, Alex Kinner, the
shark from Joseph Orange and Eddie, and none of us
took Christy Watkins or the other three sharks.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, we had Quinn. Okay, good, that's fine, you know.
I mean Chrissie's death is it's not really because it's
the first one, but it is just she's in the
water and the sharks tashes around with her for a bit.
It's a fairly standard. Nothing against it. It's a great death,
but as it's not like noteworthy compared to other death
(50:04):
by sharks across this franchise. I didn't get ramded.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's not she's not on a banana boat.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, great, Oh that's been our celebration for
the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. I hope you enjoyed it.
It was great watching all these films again. Do you
have anything to plug? Mark? Oh no, hang on, hang on? Sorry?
What I worked out how much these films are set
at sea? That's going through this time around? Can I
(50:30):
figure I'll watch them again?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
So why not?
Speaker 2 (50:31):
So listeners, as this is your first episode, welcome. Whenever
we cover individual films, I go through and work out
how much of the how deep on average the action
is in the film, how blue everything on the screen is,
and how much the film takes place at sea. That
last bit is a new addition, a relatively new addition.
So first time round, I just worked out how deep
and how blue. Now I've done how much at sea?
(50:52):
These films are categories of how much they're at sea. Water,
so that's water that's not sea land, and the void,
which is where they credits or dream sequences take place.
So Deep Blue C takes place on average eighty nine
percent at C. Mark, would do you think Jaws, Jewels two,
Jaws three D and Jews the Revenger more or less
at C than Deep C?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yes? Yes, they all three D has the least.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, right, yes it does because it's not at sea.
It's in a watch park. It's like five point one
three percent of it takes place at sea, which is
before the shark gets into the park. Then it's all.
Then it's all just at water. For fifty four percent
of the film.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Four has the second least then one then two hy.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
So close it's four then two than one, but but
they're close. So four is forty seven point eight percent
at c that's one with the highest air quotion, which
is six. It's got planes in it, whereas Jews two
has a helicopter. But for less than two percent of
the film, Jewels three D fifty four percent. If it
(52:00):
wasn't a water park and it was on the ocean,
Jaws three D would have won all of these four.
It would have been fifty nine percent on water because
fifty four percent is not on CEA. That yeah, geor'e
arranged to see Jaws two fifty three point two, Jaws
one fifty seven point two.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
The other ending is on the ending really is on sea,
all see there, yeah two problem.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, Jews two cuts back to land a lot more
some stuff, I mean, part of that JEWS two is
the air is the helicopter looking around, which is much
less for JEWS one. So even if you had that in,
it still doesn't doesn't beat Jews one. So in our
rankings we've only got twenty nine films on this list
so far, I'm building it up. Jaws is eighth, just
(52:53):
below No Way Up, and then Jews two is is
Night to Blow Jaws. Then It's Moana is intense place.
Then Jewels Are Revenge is eleventh. Then prior to this morning,
Cruel Jewels survived Sharon Nader six, Sharkonnado. Then Jewels three
D is seventeenth on the list, just above Sharknader five,
and then a whole bunch of Ronny Harden films that
don't feature the water in them represent loads of them.
(53:17):
So yeah, I just had to get that in quickly.
But mark anything to plug.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, just the movie sounds the flex podcast listen to
that nice. Well, I got some I got some new
Rotten Tomatoes stuff, so started in mark off my Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Awesome, uh well, cool listener as You can follow this
podcast at deep Blue Seapod on all social media, email
us deeply Seapod at gmail dot com and he to
give us your favorite deaths in the Jewels franchise. We'd
love to hear him. You can find some of my
writing ever at life versusfilm dot com, where I'm still
going through Twin Peaks for the first time. I'm now
on season two and I don't like the guy climbing
(53:54):
over the so far not a fan of that guy.
Bad guy. I don't like him. And next week. I
think next week will be Proana to the Spawning with
Heather Backs and Delle Water as a very fun show.
I love recording with Heather. We had a great time. Chaos,
had a real great time talking about Fish. We were
not expecting to fly in that film. Just just a
(54:15):
real delight. But as for our celebration of Jaws, our
Jaws Death draft, I have been Jake LeWitt, I'm Mark
Halfmeyer and we'll deep blue see you next week, say
Ara
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