June 25, 2025 • 39 mins
Jay and Mark talk about the 2025 shark thriller Fear Below. Directed by Matthew Holmes, and starring Hermione Corfield, Jacob Junior Nayinggul and lots of river debris, the film focuses on what happens when a van loaded with gold sinks to the bottom of a river. In this episode, they also talk about van sharks, generic titles, and Hermione Corfield joining the 4-timers club (Listen to our episodes that cover The Misfits, Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation, Sea Fever and Fear Below).
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am Mark c Dog Halfmeyer.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Jay Shark and A Van Cluet. Welcome
you aboard to this this podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
On this sh we've into the and the title.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The title absolutely this is on this show. We've been
through the whole deeply see trilogy, scene by scene. We're
doing it again, but not today. Today we're talking about
a new shark movie, talking about Fair Below aka sharcon
a Van. What is fair Below? It's a twenty twenty
five Australian shark movie directed by it written by Matthew Holmes,
starring our old friend Harmione Corefield the third film film.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The third film.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
She along with Jacob Junior, Ni Girl and Arthur Angel
play a trio of divers, divers for hire, who are
hired by three mobsters played by Jake Ryan, Josh McConville
and Maximilian Johnson. This is set in just after World
War Two in Australia, so this is this is a
(01:14):
period shop move. We don't get many of them, and
the mobsters have accidentally driven a van full of gold
into a river. They need the divers to go in
and get the gold. This kind of thing happens, happens
all the time, and you know it. Once they go
diving in they're looking for the gold. There's a bullshark
in there, and the bullshark has other plants. So yeah,
this is a new release. We watched it and we're
(01:37):
gonna talk about it now. So Mark, what do you
think about Fablo?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, congrats to Hermione for a third film and the
Miss two. And also she's a siren in King Arthur
Legend of the Sword, and she's introduced in Triple X
the Vin Diesel The Rise of Vin Diesel Egle. She
comes out in a swimming pool like her first introductions,
and it's wimming pool the third, the third Triple xchix
(02:06):
completely she's have you seen Hobbs and shaw?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I have seen Hobbs and show you.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Know Aasa Gonzales in that one. She's madame X. Yes, yes,
she's basically the Madame X of Triple X three.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Sure, okay, and she's yea, we took about Mission Postal Rognation.
She is in that as well, but she's seen that.
We talked about.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Good water water work in that too. Oh wait, so
she's in that. This is her fourth film.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
This is a fourth film we've covered.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, whoa is that a record?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I mean, i'd have to check. Have you seen Rust Creek?
That sounds like a question.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I looked at it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
She's in Rust Creek?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
What are the ones can we cover?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And I mean Triple X three has like a motorcycle
that becomes like a jet ski, so that that works
a lot of water work in that. But no, what
did I think about this movie? Okay, there's no trauma,
which is really nice. No one's sister got murdered and
they have to kayak.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Great opening scene is a car driving into into a river.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
There aren't like yeah, exactly, well, and then what do
we do? We need to get this out of the river.
Let's hire these people coincidentally need money? Yes, And then
they they like, we want We're not gonna tell you
what the job is. I don't care, I need money.
And then it's like, well, we're gonna kill him after
the job. And there's just a weird old fisherman that
shows up and dies, and you know, the the guys
(03:28):
are super racists. And then I mean, I guess it's
nineteen forty, like, well, well these guys he was even
there's an Australian guy. There's people from all over the world.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
In this.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah one of the yeah, one of the guys, the
nice thrown into him.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
He's Russian, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's Eastern Europeans
some kind.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And don't they call Sean Colin Irish at one point?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I think so, yeah, and so, But they they try
to make out the many core Field isn't English. I
think they said that she is Australian, but they just
say she's English's exactly clearly English. But yeah, they do
make a point of bringing up the racist, the racism
aspects of the time, where the character of Jimmy is
(04:15):
not allowed to drink alcohol but he is allowed to
fight and dive in his country, and they bring them
up in during a combination and then they move on.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I think Clara is called Clara is called sweetheart about
seven thousand times.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Sure, Yeah, she was probably not called Sheila a bunch
because I thought that would have been the case. But no,
that's moving away from that Australian stereotype. This film was
made by made outside of Australia, That's what would have happened,
because I thought Australia is just called women Sheila's all
the time. But it's written by Australians.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yes, now like but also very straightforward to this movie.
There's no twists like this guy Sean, you think he's
gonna fall in love with Clara. No, he's just evil
the whole time. The cop comes back. This movie is
so straightforward. I don't want to spoil too much, but
it's almost refreshingly right.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What happens is what you think is gonna happen that guy, Yeah,
that's that happens. How you think it's gonna like?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know, it's it's so straight it's it's almost like
it's it's like there's no no one's cheating on someone
like in Shark Bait. There's no dead sisters, you know, Like.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's not a secret bad guy on the good guy
team or good guy on the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Teams, not none of there's no side quest.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
A cop shows up, he dies, Yeah, they bring in
a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
He dies, like I mean the one like you kind
of who lives? You know, who's going to live? But
you know. And also to Matthew Holmes, a director and
writer of this he was he was talking about it
and he was trying to get a movie off the
ground and one of the producers like, hey, man, just
write a shark film. I can always tell that. So
he's like, Okay, I need to make a movie, so
(06:07):
I'll just write a shark film. So it kind of
came from it like a not like a cynical place,
but he's like, all right, well, if you can sell
a shark film, all right one. So I mean, I
like that it's a period film. We don't really get
too many shark period films. I like that it's Australian based.
I like that. It's just like, hey, there's a van
in the river. Put on your heavy suits and go
(06:27):
get the gold from the van. Like that's the movie
right there. But there's bull sharks, which does you know
that happens in Amazon, happens everywhere, babies around and you
just got a you know, lock shark in a van,
Lock it in a van, and then yeah, survive.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I I that's it. Yeah. I got the feeling that
this was a tammy in the t Rex situation, where
the writers of the film, like what they were told,
we've got this mechanical t rex, write a film around it,
where like we've got this old timey fear like a
diving gear. Well, can you do anything with that whole time,
(07:05):
like a couple of suits and a big wheel with
a hose on it? Can you? And then we could
do a shark movie based around the nineteen fourties. Yeah, sure,
why not? And that's just kind of how that's my
my theory for how this film came about.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, we have gear. Hey I know this river,
so they the first river they tried to shoot in
got over, like got flooded, so they had to go
to another river, Like, hey, I know a river I
guess they were way in the outback too, so they
had to go way out in the middle of nowhere
shoot at a river. And it's a lot of up
angles to j like I love in like like lower
(07:38):
budget shark films. How theo so many up angles because
you just can't show the water's just kind of someone
standing somewhere and they're shooting up. And they also shot
dry for wet. I mean, shooting an actual river would
be impossible, especially one that muddy, So I like the
drive for wet. They shot like a dry space and
then made it look wet like an underwater sure, and
then you have like like the biggest obstacle in this
(07:59):
film is like they're they're taking the gold out trees,
and which is yeah, I mean that's a pretty smarty thing.
And so you're, oh, well, we got to figure this out.
Then they make a sleigh. You know, it's kind of nice.
These are capable people at the end of the day.
Like I like that, Like Clara, Jimmy and Ernie. They
(08:21):
get the gold out, which is a pretty tough task,
and then you know they the bad guys die and
then they get a reward at the end and everything's
gonna be great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It's a pretty straightforward film. It's pretty like down down
the middle.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How no character development, no minute.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, no one changes, no one turns good, no one
turns bad. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Like I think Clara and Jimmy are kind of the
same people. They're like, we're just going to vet customers
from now on.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, they can help go and go and buy a boat.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, they've they've advanced in terms of what they can
offer as a service. But that's that's about it. That's
how the world has changed.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
They don't have a drunk boss anymore. Who's kind who
kind of means well, I mean, you think about it Ernie.
He's a he's a drunk boss. But you know, in
the nineteen forties he hired a woman and like an
indigenous person to to work for him. So aside from
just the alcoholism and everything that comes with that, he
seems pretty reasonable.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, And you don't get the sense that he's like
spent all of their profits on booze. He's just.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
He's just he doesn't even gamble, right.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
He just it's been months since they've had a job
and he's just gonna drink consistently. I feel like, so
he just took down his luck.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, this is a smartly written film, though, I mean
you connect the A D C, D E F G
as well.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah. Yeah, these people need the money. These people stuff
in the Golden the River. They're gonna it's a weir
Win situation except for one that wants to kill the
other obstacles.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Then there's a couple of good bits. I like when
Jimmy's gonna knife fight Janus is that it like, yeah,
they're gonna knife fight, and then Jimmy just throws a
knife into the guy. I was like that was good.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
There's like a late there's a third act cop that
comes and you're like, oh gosh, like this always happens.
But yeah, I mean it's it. But Jay, you're you're
you're a studio executive, right, smaller studio. Something that goes, Hey,
I got an idea. There's a van of gold, van
filled with gold on the bottom of river. Okay, people
got to get it out. Nineteen forties bull Sharks Like, yeah,
(10:41):
that sounds good to me.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, I would. I would say at prisn't sounds like
a long film. I think I would improve this. I would.
I feel like this Wie needs to have more of
a hook.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It means becaun't so straightforward.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, it's only the period setting is the only thing
that differentiates it between like a bunch of other films
we've covered.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Uh, but Jay, what's the hook? What's the hook? Nineteen
forties Australia.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Whoa, everything is brown, even the water is brown. Yell
just a film devoid of color. I'm sitting black and white. No,
it's showing you think.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The problem with this film is that it was too
well cast. Like Corfield is good, Angels good, Jacob is good,
Maximilian's good, like the Josh is good, Jake is good.
They're all good. Would this be Would this movie be
better if the actors were less capable? I oh, I
think which would give it more personality, you know what
(11:48):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Would, but then it would probably feel like a sci
fi original kind of thing, or it would.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I don't want to go down that. I like that
they've cast capable actors. I just feel like they haven't
got a lot to work with. All the characters are
too straightforward. There's just not enough like works for them
to latch onto and play with everyone just like, yeah,
I'm a big mob guy's a bit of a biggot
(12:14):
and likes a bit of a drunk. Clara is posh English,
one goes Russian. Yeah, the Russian guy, Yeah, I kind
of liked him. It's a bad guy, but I like
he's like one of his jobs is to watch this
(12:36):
big meat decoy they've got, and so he's kind of
watching that on the rope and then he gets taken
and he's like us. He has a few moments like
well here we go. It's like he's he's I feel
like he's trying to do something and he's like, I
don't know, it's just not it's just there's just not enough.
(12:56):
It's these are.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
The most These are the most boring movies sometimes made
j when you have like a decent script, like yeah,
the script makes sense, and then you have decent actors,
a good actors. Let's say, okay, I have a decent
script that's like it's tidy, very tidy. This movie is
very tidy. Then you have good actors and you're like,
I could knock this out in a little bit. And
(13:18):
then you're like, you go shoot on location, you have
some up angles. It was kind of you know, you
do drive for wet that Like these are sometimes the
worst movies to talk about because they're just fine. Yeah,
it is like there's nothing, Yeah, there's nothing terrible to
talk about, like there and it doesn't have enough personality
like a ghost shark. It doesn't have there's.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Not a bunch of interesting kills. Some people get taken up,
some people get shot. Yeah, that's kind of about it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Like there's a gunfight and like Clara, maybe this would
have been better if she had a twin who died.
Like she's working at World War two repairing boats and
like her wind gets smushed just like Pops, like the
guy from Underwater yeah, and then she has to like
overcome her fears and get back in the water. And
(14:10):
then it doesn't even play a part after.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That because like Clara and Jimmy are the two who
go into the water first, yeah, we got it, and
only stip on land and then they like encounter a
shark and come out. And then the next the next time,
Ernie decides, like Clara, she's a lady, she's not going in.
She'd rather so Ernie goes in. They're like, Bernie, you
haven't you haven't died for months. He's like, yeah, we're fine,
(14:33):
and it's fine, get the gold out, you get the goat.
But there's no like I haven't died for months because
what happened to my brother like that, it's just the
last time I dove the tremors. It's just he just
hasn't done for months because I haven't had a job
for months.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So dehydrated from my alcoholism. Yeah that if I go
down there, I will collapse because I have had no
water and I've just drank, which has made me peel
a lot, which gets her to all my other water,
and I'm just dehydrated.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He's not a drunk. He's like an addict. Now if
he's got he's diving, he's got to be clean for
forty eight hours, and he's starting to get withdraw symptoms
and he goes diving and it's like suddenly happens with that,
But no, it's just like him being a drunk really
doesn't really enter into them anything, just gives them something
in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
There's a lot of drunks in these movies. Jay, Okay,
we need to make a movie where every single protagonist
has had a wildly tragic incident involving water. So there's
six leads, is there every single one of them?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Are there six opening scenes before the credits, like like
like six traumatic scenes.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It's like The Hobbit but backwards or the Return of the.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Like for six openings.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Or there's twelve people out right, twelve people and they
all have twins, and so it's like the Twin Convention
of you know, twenty twenty two, and everyone's twins are
out and they're all partying on a dock and then
they're like, hey, which group of twins would win this
tug of war? And so they're tug of warring and
(16:23):
a shark jumps up bites the middle of the cord.
One group falls it, both groups fall in the water,
but the shark eats the six on one side and
not the six on the other side.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Sure, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That'd be awesome, Jay.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, I think everyone's just like.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Did did six people just lose their twins? I get
identical twins?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Whoa they get We're talking six shocks or one shock,
one big shark, one.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Shock, six children and it's twin.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's like that the shark six tuplets each a person,
and then he's survivors has a bit vendetta against one
of the sharks.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, six identical twin sharks eat six identical twins, which
the other twins meet a year later and they hunt
them down.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
But they get the wrong comes six on six, they
get the shark twins, so that six sharks take out
six people, and then they're only six people take out
six twin sharks, and so the other the sharks twins
are still alive and the people's twins are still alive.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah. Yeah, we've gone down. This is it gone too far?
This is it? But yeah, this one, Jay, I remember
watching it and just this is really straightforward.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, I was trying to think, have we like in
terms of period films. I don't think there's.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Other period film.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah there's there's. Sorry, I don't know the period film.
It's not like a period shark film. There's films in
our period films, but I don't think there's a period
shark film. We've covered.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The USS Indianapolis, that's basically, that's true.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yes, that is that is the.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
One, and like this one. Yeah, this is a six.
I mean Gladiator two we haven't talked about yet.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We sure haven't, that's true, Yeah, we haven't. I watched
that again.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I mean, yeah, Jay, this movement it's so straightforward.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's just so straightforward. I'm just trying to think, what
else did I have? Fisherman shows up, he gets eaten,
feel like in the nineteen forties? To you, did you
think this like they bought the era? To me, it
kind of felt like modern day actors wearing period gup,
which yeah, is exactly exactly what it is. But I
didn't feel it didn't feel like the nineteen forties.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Film and all the clothes look new, Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yes, exactly, I have new clothes. The cars were dated
and stuff. Expect they just kind of felt like twenty
twenty five film.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
With brand new clothes for everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Jay always always off putting with like deep we see
two has that problem as well. Wear the clothes just
don't feel.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Worn in brand new. Yeah, I mean, but you know
what the problem is, you just don't have time. Yeah,
when you're making a movie like this, there's no rehearsals.
You don't have I think for a complete unknown. Timothy
Schlome was like having his costume designers, which was smart
because the movie made a lot of money, but he
was just kind of like, guys, like, let's get this
worn in, like sit on it, like everywhere you go,
(19:36):
sit on this jacket and put some mud in it,
like just like they wore in all of the outfits
I got in this one. You just don't have the time,
So you know, you have a couple of spinny wheels
and then the gangsters like, well kill you. Well, you
don't know how to handle this, Like it's just kind
of you let the line out, is what it seems like.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I reckon We could probably work it out. Yeah, I
didn't see that complicated ID like that the main bad
guy is like in my line of work, I don't
like a lot of questions, to which Mute replies, what's
your line of work? I like that. I like that
they made a part of that. But he says, there's
a lot of questions that guy. He's constantly asking questions
(20:14):
with everyone of Clara, Jimmy, everything is, Oh, how did
you get into this? What you what are you doing it?
It's another more question to this guy. But I watched this.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I think I wrote that down from my notes. Yeah,
no questions, and he just starts asking questions.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, I did watch this with my wife and about
half an hour and she did say, like, is this
supposed to be a shark film? So always nice when
that happens, Like why are we're watching this? So that's
And at the end of it, she did make it
to the end, which is rare. She said it wasn't bad,
but it wasn't great. So she didn't say bad. She's
a worse word than that, which she sat through a
lot of these films, she said, to a lot of
(20:50):
these ones with me, and sometimes they are worse. But
this is just this was so straightforward that it wasn't
offensively bad. I guess, yeah, it's not offensively bad.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I think I think most people could sit through this
movie because eighty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's not it's just not a lot
to it, really.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And they're wearing suits in the outback that are have
no sweat stains.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, it's not right. It's just not right. They had
a cool like floating underwater light thing. You need to
give them illumination down there. I kind of like that. Yeah,
like s semi floating thing. That was nice.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I mean it's smart. The choices, all the choices in
this movie makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
They stab a shark in the gills, Yeah, it's happened
with in the gills. That's rare. And the Russian guys
pulling a gold teethous one's head by hand, not with
tools by hand, just putting teeth out with his hand.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think that was my favorite touch because I had
the most person that the knife throw, the tooth rip,
the shark in a van. Those are probably my three
favorite parts.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I think that's that's fair. They didn't make enough
of the shark in the van. But if you if
you make more of that, then you've got to start
having effects of a shark being in a van.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I love the shark in a van.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, because you know, it's a shocking a trash compator
in DBC three, it's stick the shock in something. That's
why you look see it's a shock in a kitchen.
Was they don't get a kitchen, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Know, like locks it in there. She's smart enough to
lock it in there. There's really no danger though, and
also criminals are dumb. You have most of the gold,
most of it. Yeah, just get out of there.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Cool it quits you.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, like I know you want more and maybe you
told somebody more about like listen, we got half, we
got most of it. There's a bull shark down there.
We hired this crew. It was crazy. This fisherman was eating.
This is good. And if it was just their heist,
get out of there. I just you got enough. That's
a lot of gold, Jay.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, I couldn't imagine
that there's somebody higher up the chain. It's like, where's
the rest of my gold? Go and get the rest
of my old or you're dead.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Do they say that?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
No, I'm just I'm assuming, Oh, okay, that's just my
you know, that's how mob some one seems tend to work.
Like there's someone further up the chain. If there wasn't
someone for the chain, then the main bad guy wouldn't
be there. He'd be for the train telling something else
to go and do the thing. Yeah, I assume.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Where's my goal. Yeah, if we don't get this gold
there in a week, we're dead. Get it a Yeah.
I don't think they say that.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But yeah, there's just like three weeks later they're happy,
like they're really happy. Three weeks later they get all
the money.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
They're happy even before we're.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Going to buy a boat. Yeah, let's see. What did
I write my notes? I wrote big helmets, drunk guy
two fifty, no questions, Uh, what's see? Let's see drowned rat,
young fella. That's I don't like how many. I have
(24:11):
a lot of notes here, but none of them are
really popping out to me.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
The poster on the Wikipedia page, the post is pretty cool.
It's a big shark coming on to a guy. Just
blow the surface. What do you think of the title
fear below? I think that works well for a name.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, just call it a van, call it river nineteen
forties riversharks what it is?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Because that's the problem. There's fear below, there's deer. There's
just so many fears going on.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, it's too like I do often think back of
the films that we covered and think, like which one,
which one was Into the Deep? Which one was? No
way up?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Completely blanked that one out Jay with John Sada, and
the one where they're on the boat and there's like
the influencers and then the pirates come. I always forget
about that. We watched that movie.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Jay, Oh yeah, oh yeah, I think I think that
was Into the Deep. I'm gonna have to check into.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
The I did a ranking. Do you want to hear it? Yes, okay,
so I did a ranking of it's a little controversial.
I might have to adjust it, but like I didn't.
This is like my ranking of recent shark movies going
back to about twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It was Into the Deep, and that's the one that
also had Richard Drakenson. I remember it now.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Okay, I think I might have left some out, but
here it is. I think it's a tie from first place,
Dangerous Animals and Deep BLUEC three, But I don't know.
I'll put the I don't know. We'll say those are
one and two. Number three is under Paris. Number four
is deep bluecy two. Number five is meg too. Number
six is forty seven meters down uncaged seven is the Meg.
Now this is gonna be crazy, but I put wait eight,
(26:09):
I'm gonna do eight last breath, nine Fear below because
it's just so inoffensive. And then the reef Stalked, Like
I think the reef Stalked is good, but that trauma
subplot is just so odd shark bait if they just
like all that cheating nonsense, like great idea and you
just kind of but the ending's great. And then I
(26:30):
have something in the water Black Demon Racken, Deep Fear,
man eater into the deep, No Way Up, Great White.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Okay, I was trying to keep track of them as
you're going, and I think I lost you around something
in the water. So can you repeat the.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Same something of black Demon yep Rakkeen Racken. That might
be higher Deep Fear, which is the lady the cocaine sharks.
I think a man eater into the.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Into the deep.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I could potally forgot what into literally and I looked.
I looked at it and went, what is this movie?
And then no Way Up? And then Great White.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Okay, so of those I still have yet to see man.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Eata, what's your one through four?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Of all these, I mean, oh, I reckon my number one.
I'm gonna have no one as Under Paris at the moment.
I really did love Under Paris. I need to watch
it again. I really enjoy Under Paris. Then mm hmm.
C three probably up there. It's just being a great film.
(27:42):
Dangerous animals. I love dangerous Animals. I did really enjoy
the Last Breath. That's what I was. Breath was fantastic,
and have underwater Surgery, which, yeah, great, So I have
Last Breath is one of before.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, Last Breath should be a little higher for me.
I like that movie.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Then I'll put forty seven meters down to Engaged because
sharks are fun. Then I'll put DEPC two I haven't forgot.
I'll put.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Then in the end of the list.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It's difficult. So then I think I had Yeah, I've
got Meg two just above the Meg. I am planning
to watch the Meg two again soon just to remind me.
And then yeah, then we get into the rest of
the films.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
We can it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So I'm gonna mirror you and have great white and
No Way up at the bottom too, because Great White
a film we have never covered. I'm just going to
refuse to cover.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You think I'm in a deep blue sea to myself
with that one, I know.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But I also love that whenever we say to people, like,
any films you want to cover, no one said Great White.
No one will ever say Great Way. No one's like, hey,
I want to talk about No, that's not gonna happen. Uh,
let's see. Yeah, I think let's put the reef Stalk
to next because that's a good film, just has the
most trauma like to start with. And that did the
(29:15):
bunch and it surprised me, like I didn't. I always
enjoy when a film does like come out and say, hey,
this is how we're going to start this film, Like wow,
I didn't see that coming at all. You got me.
Good for you a shock, but I'm gonna put down
the Bottom because I didn't. I was not a fan
of Shocked. But it should have been better because it's
shark and a jet ski. Ah, I've just had done
(29:37):
the same thing as you were, like, like what was
into the Deep? What's that one that we talked about?
So yeah, that could be next? Then I'll put rokeen
wherever you say Deep Fear? Which one was Deep Fear.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
The Cocaine one?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, okay, I didn't I didn't hate the Cocaine one.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Uh sorry, The restocked as a great poster to it.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Sure does. Yeah, Something in the Water. It is only
good because it's got seven h.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I don't even remember what that song is.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's like, stop, don't stop moving, don't stop moving.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So the one thing I remember, I'm wrong, but I
got stop right, don't stop if you can, like.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
That's yeah, you're fine.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
But I think I combined that with there's murder on
the dance floor. So DJ, please don't kill the movie
or something.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, so my I think I've missed one. But yeah,
so starting under paris deep three Dangerous Animals.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So we have the same top three.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, just sent order. Yeah, footage of me is down
on Caged Dope two, the make two Make to the Reef,
the mag Reef, stalked Black Demon, Deep Fear Fear below
Something in the Water. They're a keen into the deep
Shock Bait. No way up great wite.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Well, yeah, shark Bait is just the biggest disappointment. I
need to watch it. Again maybe because I just hate
the people in it. Our top nine is it's not
the same, Jay, But we have the same movies, the
same top nine. Actually the top ten is the same,
just you know, different orders, obviously, because it would be
(31:32):
insane if we had the same top ten. But sure,
that's good. We have the same ten in the our
top tens in different order.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, and I think I think that's fair. And fear
Below didn't make it into mine.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think, oh it didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
My ten ends up Black Demon in your ten. Oh okay,
the reef stalked, So I think you.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Know what, Josh Lucas's performance pretty much puts it in
the top ten because he's unhinged in that one.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
He yes, sure, but it didn't make it into your
top ten. Now, first one, I would say, you know,
the top eight are probably worth your time. Listeners. If
you're like, if you've arrived at our episode on whatever,
this film was called to the flow, Hey what other
(32:31):
shark films should have watched instead? There are better ones
out there.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Last Breath, So Jay, like, if we're talking so direct
to streaming, that's not Netflix, right or Deep Blue Sea two?
Because I was Warner Brothers, so if we're talking about
like independently produced type shark movies, Last Breath.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The Last Breath, the Restalked, non ip, Yeah, Black Demon, Yeah,
I would say check out Last Breath, the Restorked, Black Demon.
You can you can.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Look at Yeah, those are fun. Those are a good time.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, and that they have more of a hook than
just it's in the past.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I know, I remember thinking, oh, I remember I message
you after I watched this. I went this movie is
so straightforward. This is a this is kind of a
nightmare movie to podcast about because there's nothing like if
you're just like a snarky person, there's not much to
hate on. And then if you are trying to find
(33:31):
the positives, you're like, well it's it's eighty five minutes
and it's structured, it makes sense, and that's about it.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, let's not drag it out any more than we
have to. Then discussion, that's all I have. Yeah, that's
that's all we got. And so listeners to this is
your first episode, and welcome. Whenever we cover a new film,
I as I'll go through, I work out how deep
or the action taking place is during that film, how
blue everything on screen is, and how much it takes
(34:01):
place at sea. This is of course deep Blue Sea.
The podcast So Deep the Sea is on average approximately
fourteen and a half meters of forty seven and a
half feet deep, about thirty one percent blue and eighty
nine percent of it takes place at sea. Mark, do
you think Fear Below is deeper blue or more at
sea than Deep Blue Sey? No, of course it's It
(34:23):
actually ends up being below the surface in terms of
depth wise on average, just because they never really go
up high anywhere. They like stay on the ground or
go a little bit underwater.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
They say, you know, what's sixteen eighteen feet below? Is
that what it is?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
That's what they say. So this works out of being
on average about ero point thirty nine meters or one
point three feet underwater, which means it's slightly deeper than
the sea beast and slightly less deep than DAWs two.
In terms of blueness, this is not a very blue
(34:56):
film at all. Whenever when they are underwater, it is yellow,
it is brown. It's only really the sky that is
blue at any given point. So I worked out this
was about six point a lot of blue sky, but
that but not enough to put it that high in
the ranking. So it's six point three percent blue, means
it's bluer than Primal, but less blue than Deep Water
(35:17):
that ben Afflet, Canada, Armor's film that has nothing to
do with under Blue Water under a Door. And in
terms of the Senus, it's never at sea. They are
never at Sally. They are when they are in the river.
They are in the water, but they are not at sea.
So it's zero percent. Thirty four point six percent is
in the water, which means it's more in the water
than Night Swim, less in the water than Alligator, but
(35:38):
it's still at zero percent, along with ten other films
that never go into the sea. Yeah, so that's March.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
There's something wrong with the pool.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
There's something wrong with the pool. It's just with the pool. Okay, fine,
stop going in it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
There's just something wrong dad pool.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I did enjoy Night Swim. It's such a city premise.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Like who's a legitimate like Treasure Oscar nominated person, why
at Russell, who's great? And then a good kid actors
and then.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You know something wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Is something wrong with that pool.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't know what it is. It turns out, yes,
there is something wrong with the pool. It's like something
of untapped well to the demon.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, so you know when you put your hands on
your like so you're not putting your hands on your
hips per se, You're putting the back of your hands
on your hips. You know what I'm talking about. You
know when you stand like people stand like that, Yeah,
it's really hotter. You have gloves on, you don't want
to put them against your sides like people stand like that,
one foot out in front of the other and just no,
there's just something wrong with this pool.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
And they are right in this instance. They are right.
There is something wrong with the pool.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
There's just something wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Great, well, that will do it for a discussion and
night smim once again. Uh Mark anything to plug and things.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Promote Just moves on the flicks the podcast website, read
the reviews.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
You can find my writ favorite life as his film
dot com where I've almost finished going through season two
of Twin Peaks. I don't know what I'm gonna I
just don't know what to do after that. I know
what I'm gonna do will be Twin Peaks. If I
walk with me in Twin Peaks to return, I'm sure soon,
and then I'll be done with Twin Peaks. I guess
I'm enjoying it. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
My word pines.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay. If someone gets stuck Matt, Matt Dylan gets stuck
in the town, He's like, something wrong with this town.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Something wrong with his townh just hands on his hips
for an hour and a half a week.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Everywhere they go, You do someone wrong with this town.
We need to make that move Jay and the Trauma
movie with the Twins.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I mean, just to make them the same film.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Uh, yeah, what if it happens in the Twin Cities.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
There we go in Minneapolis. Yeah, great, Well, come back
lakes in Minnesota. J oh Okay, there's something wrong with
this lake. Well, next week Preachers funny out.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Twelve people doing that. Six periods of twins go all
all at the same time. There's something wrong with this lake.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And then you cut to underwater and there's six shots.
There's something wrong with these twins. Great, well, next week
preaches finding out for there's something wrong with the oven
when he's trapped in that In an episode of DeepC
with a guest aide more from Out Now Without an Ape,
a very fun episode we've already recorded It was a
good time, so come back next week for that one.
But as for today's show, has for fear below I
(38:53):
have been Jake LeWitt, Mark arth Meyer and we'll deep
blue see you next week. Don't know any day away
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am Mark c Dog Halfmeyer.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Jay Shark and A Van Cluet. Welcome
you aboard to this this podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
On this sh we've into the and the title.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The title absolutely this is on this show. We've been
through the whole deeply see trilogy, scene by scene. We're
doing it again, but not today. Today we're talking about
a new shark movie, talking about Fair Below aka sharcon
a Van. What is fair Below? It's a twenty twenty
five Australian shark movie directed by it written by Matthew Holmes,
starring our old friend Harmione Corefield the third film film.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The third film.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
She along with Jacob Junior, Ni Girl and Arthur Angel
play a trio of divers, divers for hire, who are
hired by three mobsters played by Jake Ryan, Josh McConville
and Maximilian Johnson. This is set in just after World
War Two in Australia, so this is this is a
(01:14):
period shop move. We don't get many of them, and
the mobsters have accidentally driven a van full of gold
into a river. They need the divers to go in
and get the gold. This kind of thing happens, happens
all the time, and you know it. Once they go
diving in they're looking for the gold. There's a bullshark
in there, and the bullshark has other plants. So yeah,
this is a new release. We watched it and we're
(01:37):
gonna talk about it now. So Mark, what do you
think about Fablo?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, congrats to Hermione for a third film and the
Miss two. And also she's a siren in King Arthur
Legend of the Sword, and she's introduced in Triple X
the Vin Diesel The Rise of Vin Diesel Egle. She
comes out in a swimming pool like her first introductions,
and it's wimming pool the third, the third Triple xchix
(02:06):
completely she's have you seen Hobbs and shaw?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I have seen Hobbs and show you.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Know Aasa Gonzales in that one. She's madame X. Yes, yes,
she's basically the Madame X of Triple X three.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Sure, okay, and she's yea, we took about Mission Postal Rognation.
She is in that as well, but she's seen that.
We talked about.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Good water water work in that too. Oh wait, so
she's in that. This is her fourth film.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
This is a fourth film we've covered.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, whoa is that a record?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I mean, i'd have to check. Have you seen Rust Creek?
That sounds like a question.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I looked at it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
She's in Rust Creek?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
What are the ones can we cover?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And I mean Triple X three has like a motorcycle
that becomes like a jet ski, so that that works
a lot of water work in that. But no, what
did I think about this movie? Okay, there's no trauma,
which is really nice. No one's sister got murdered and
they have to kayak.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Great opening scene is a car driving into into a river.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
There aren't like yeah, exactly, well, and then what do
we do? We need to get this out of the river.
Let's hire these people coincidentally need money? Yes, And then
they they like, we want We're not gonna tell you
what the job is. I don't care, I need money.
And then it's like, well, we're gonna kill him after
the job. And there's just a weird old fisherman that
shows up and dies, and you know, the the guys
(03:28):
are super racists. And then I mean, I guess it's
nineteen forty, like, well, well these guys he was even
there's an Australian guy. There's people from all over the world.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
In this.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah one of the yeah, one of the guys, the
nice thrown into him.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
He's Russian, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's Eastern Europeans
some kind.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And don't they call Sean Colin Irish at one point?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I think so, yeah, and so, But they they try
to make out the many core Field isn't English. I
think they said that she is Australian, but they just
say she's English's exactly clearly English. But yeah, they do
make a point of bringing up the racist, the racism
aspects of the time, where the character of Jimmy is
(04:15):
not allowed to drink alcohol but he is allowed to
fight and dive in his country, and they bring them
up in during a combination and then they move on.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I think Clara is called Clara is called sweetheart about
seven thousand times.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Sure, Yeah, she was probably not called Sheila a bunch
because I thought that would have been the case. But no,
that's moving away from that Australian stereotype. This film was
made by made outside of Australia, That's what would have happened,
because I thought Australia is just called women Sheila's all
the time. But it's written by Australians.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yes, now like but also very straightforward to this movie.
There's no twists like this guy Sean, you think he's
gonna fall in love with Clara. No, he's just evil
the whole time. The cop comes back. This movie is
so straightforward. I don't want to spoil too much, but
it's almost refreshingly right.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What happens is what you think is gonna happen that guy, Yeah,
that's that happens. How you think it's gonna like?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know, it's it's so straight it's it's almost like
it's it's like there's no no one's cheating on someone
like in Shark Bait. There's no dead sisters, you know, Like.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's not a secret bad guy on the good guy
team or good guy on the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Teams, not none of there's no side quest.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
A cop shows up, he dies, Yeah, they bring in
a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
He dies, like I mean the one like you kind
of who lives? You know, who's going to live? But
you know. And also to Matthew Holmes, a director and
writer of this he was he was talking about it
and he was trying to get a movie off the
ground and one of the producers like, hey, man, just
write a shark film. I can always tell that. So
he's like, Okay, I need to make a movie, so
(06:07):
I'll just write a shark film. So it kind of
came from it like a not like a cynical place,
but he's like, all right, well, if you can sell
a shark film, all right one. So I mean, I
like that it's a period film. We don't really get
too many shark period films. I like that it's Australian based.
I like that. It's just like, hey, there's a van
in the river. Put on your heavy suits and go
(06:27):
get the gold from the van. Like that's the movie
right there. But there's bull sharks, which does you know
that happens in Amazon, happens everywhere, babies around and you
just got a you know, lock shark in a van,
Lock it in a van, and then yeah, survive.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I I that's it. Yeah. I got the feeling that
this was a tammy in the t Rex situation, where
the writers of the film, like what they were told,
we've got this mechanical t rex, write a film around it,
where like we've got this old timey fear like a
diving gear. Well, can you do anything with that whole time,
(07:05):
like a couple of suits and a big wheel with
a hose on it? Can you? And then we could
do a shark movie based around the nineteen fourties. Yeah, sure,
why not? And that's just kind of how that's my
my theory for how this film came about.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, yeah, we have gear. Hey I know this river,
so they the first river they tried to shoot in
got over, like got flooded, so they had to go
to another river, Like, hey, I know a river I
guess they were way in the outback too, so they
had to go way out in the middle of nowhere
shoot at a river. And it's a lot of up
angles to j like I love in like like lower
(07:38):
budget shark films. How theo so many up angles because
you just can't show the water's just kind of someone
standing somewhere and they're shooting up. And they also shot
dry for wet. I mean, shooting an actual river would
be impossible, especially one that muddy, So I like the
drive for wet. They shot like a dry space and
then made it look wet like an underwater sure, and
then you have like like the biggest obstacle in this
(07:59):
film is like they're they're taking the gold out trees,
and which is yeah, I mean that's a pretty smarty thing.
And so you're, oh, well, we got to figure this out.
Then they make a sleigh. You know, it's kind of nice.
These are capable people at the end of the day.
Like I like that, Like Clara, Jimmy and Ernie. They
(08:21):
get the gold out, which is a pretty tough task,
and then you know they the bad guys die and
then they get a reward at the end and everything's
gonna be great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It's a pretty straightforward film. It's pretty like down down
the middle.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
How no character development, no minute.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, no one changes, no one turns good, no one
turns bad. Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Like I think Clara and Jimmy are kind of the
same people. They're like, we're just going to vet customers
from now on.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, they can help go and go and buy a boat.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, they've they've advanced in terms of what they can
offer as a service. But that's that's about it. That's
how the world has changed.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
They don't have a drunk boss anymore. Who's kind who
kind of means well, I mean, you think about it Ernie.
He's a he's a drunk boss. But you know, in
the nineteen forties he hired a woman and like an
indigenous person to to work for him. So aside from
just the alcoholism and everything that comes with that, he
seems pretty reasonable.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, And you don't get the sense that he's like
spent all of their profits on booze. He's just.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
He's just he doesn't even gamble, right.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
He just it's been months since they've had a job
and he's just gonna drink consistently. I feel like, so
he just took down his luck.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, this is a smartly written film, though, I mean
you connect the A D C, D E F G
as well.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah. Yeah, these people need the money. These people stuff
in the Golden the River. They're gonna it's a weir
Win situation except for one that wants to kill the
other obstacles.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Then there's a couple of good bits. I like when
Jimmy's gonna knife fight Janus is that it like, yeah,
they're gonna knife fight, and then Jimmy just throws a
knife into the guy. I was like that was good.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
There's like a late there's a third act cop that
comes and you're like, oh gosh, like this always happens.
But yeah, I mean it's it. But Jay, you're you're
you're a studio executive, right, smaller studio. Something that goes, Hey,
I got an idea. There's a van of gold, van
filled with gold on the bottom of river. Okay, people
got to get it out. Nineteen forties bull Sharks Like, yeah,
(10:41):
that sounds good to me.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, I would. I would say at prisn't sounds like
a long film. I think I would improve this. I would.
I feel like this Wie needs to have more of
a hook.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It means becaun't so straightforward.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, it's only the period setting is the only thing
that differentiates it between like a bunch of other films
we've covered.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Uh, but Jay, what's the hook? What's the hook? Nineteen
forties Australia.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Whoa, everything is brown, even the water is brown. Yell
just a film devoid of color. I'm sitting black and white. No,
it's showing you think.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The problem with this film is that it was too
well cast. Like Corfield is good, Angels good, Jacob is good,
Maximilian's good, like the Josh is good, Jake is good.
They're all good. Would this be Would this movie be
better if the actors were less capable? I oh, I
think which would give it more personality, you know what
(11:48):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Would, but then it would probably feel like a sci
fi original kind of thing, or it would.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I don't want to go down that. I like that
they've cast capable actors. I just feel like they haven't
got a lot to work with. All the characters are
too straightforward. There's just not enough like works for them
to latch onto and play with everyone just like, yeah,
I'm a big mob guy's a bit of a biggot
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and likes a bit of a drunk. Clara is posh English,
one goes Russian. Yeah, the Russian guy, Yeah, I kind
of liked him. It's a bad guy, but I like
he's like one of his jobs is to watch this
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big meat decoy they've got, and so he's kind of
watching that on the rope and then he gets taken
and he's like us. He has a few moments like
well here we go. It's like he's he's I feel
like he's trying to do something and he's like, I
don't know, it's just not it's just there's just not enough.
(12:56):
It's these are.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
The most These are the most boring movies sometimes made
j when you have like a decent script, like yeah,
the script makes sense, and then you have decent actors,
a good actors. Let's say, okay, I have a decent
script that's like it's tidy, very tidy. This movie is
very tidy. Then you have good actors and you're like,
I could knock this out in a little bit. And
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then you're like, you go shoot on location, you have
some up angles. It was kind of you know, you
do drive for wet that Like these are sometimes the
worst movies to talk about because they're just fine. Yeah,
it is like there's nothing, Yeah, there's nothing terrible to
talk about, like there and it doesn't have enough personality
like a ghost shark. It doesn't have there's.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Not a bunch of interesting kills. Some people get taken up,
some people get shot. Yeah, that's kind of about it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Like there's a gunfight and like Clara, maybe this would
have been better if she had a twin who died.
Like she's working at World War two repairing boats and
like her wind gets smushed just like Pops, like the
guy from Underwater yeah, and then she has to like
overcome her fears and get back in the water. And
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then it doesn't even play a part after.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
That because like Clara and Jimmy are the two who
go into the water first, yeah, we got it, and
only stip on land and then they like encounter a
shark and come out. And then the next the next time,
Ernie decides, like Clara, she's a lady, she's not going in.
She'd rather so Ernie goes in. They're like, Bernie, you
haven't you haven't died for months. He's like, yeah, we're fine,
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and it's fine, get the gold out, you get the goat.
But there's no like I haven't died for months because
what happened to my brother like that, it's just the
last time I dove the tremors. It's just he just
hasn't done for months because I haven't had a job
for months.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So dehydrated from my alcoholism. Yeah that if I go
down there, I will collapse because I have had no
water and I've just drank, which has made me peel
a lot, which gets her to all my other water,
and I'm just dehydrated.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He's not a drunk. He's like an addict. Now if
he's got he's diving, he's got to be clean for
forty eight hours, and he's starting to get withdraw symptoms
and he goes diving and it's like suddenly happens with that,
But no, it's just like him being a drunk really
doesn't really enter into them anything, just gives them something
in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
There's a lot of drunks in these movies. Jay, Okay,
we need to make a movie where every single protagonist
has had a wildly tragic incident involving water. So there's
six leads, is there every single one of them?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Are there six opening scenes before the credits, like like
like six traumatic scenes.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It's like The Hobbit but backwards or the Return of the.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Like for six openings.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Or there's twelve people out right, twelve people and they
all have twins, and so it's like the Twin Convention
of you know, twenty twenty two, and everyone's twins are
out and they're all partying on a dock and then
they're like, hey, which group of twins would win this
tug of war? And so they're tug of warring and
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a shark jumps up bites the middle of the cord.
One group falls it, both groups fall in the water,
but the shark eats the six on one side and
not the six on the other side.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Sure, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That'd be awesome, Jay.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, I think everyone's just like.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Did did six people just lose their twins? I get
identical twins?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Whoa they get We're talking six shocks or one shock,
one big shark, one.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Shock, six children and it's twin.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's like that the shark six tuplets each a person,
and then he's survivors has a bit vendetta against one
of the sharks.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, six identical twin sharks eat six identical twins, which
the other twins meet a year later and they hunt
them down.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
But they get the wrong comes six on six, they
get the shark twins, so that six sharks take out
six people, and then they're only six people take out
six twin sharks, and so the other the sharks twins
are still alive and the people's twins are still alive.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah. Yeah, we've gone down. This is it gone too far?
This is it? But yeah, this one, Jay, I remember
watching it and just this is really straightforward.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, I was trying to think, have we like in
terms of period films. I don't think there's.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Other period film.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah there's there's. Sorry, I don't know the period film.
It's not like a period shark film. There's films in
our period films, but I don't think there's a period
shark film. We've covered.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
The USS Indianapolis, that's basically, that's true.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yes, that is that is the.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
One, and like this one. Yeah, this is a six.
I mean Gladiator two we haven't talked about yet.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We sure haven't, that's true, Yeah, we haven't. I watched
that again.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I mean, yeah, Jay, this movement it's so straightforward.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's just so straightforward. I'm just trying to think, what
else did I have? Fisherman shows up, he gets eaten,
feel like in the nineteen forties? To you, did you
think this like they bought the era? To me, it
kind of felt like modern day actors wearing period gup,
which yeah, is exactly exactly what it is. But I
didn't feel it didn't feel like the nineteen forties.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Film and all the clothes look new, Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yes, exactly, I have new clothes. The cars were dated
and stuff. Expect they just kind of felt like twenty
twenty five film.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
With brand new clothes for everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Jay always always off putting with like deep we see
two has that problem as well. Wear the clothes just
don't feel.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Worn in brand new. Yeah, I mean, but you know
what the problem is, you just don't have time. Yeah,
when you're making a movie like this, there's no rehearsals.
You don't have I think for a complete unknown. Timothy
Schlome was like having his costume designers, which was smart
because the movie made a lot of money, but he
was just kind of like, guys, like, let's get this
worn in, like sit on it, like everywhere you go,
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sit on this jacket and put some mud in it,
like just like they wore in all of the outfits
I got in this one. You just don't have the time,
So you know, you have a couple of spinny wheels
and then the gangsters like, well kill you. Well, you
don't know how to handle this, Like it's just kind
of you let the line out, is what it seems like.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I reckon We could probably work it out. Yeah, I
didn't see that complicated ID like that the main bad
guy is like in my line of work, I don't
like a lot of questions, to which Mute replies, what's
your line of work? I like that. I like that
they made a part of that. But he says, there's
a lot of questions that guy. He's constantly asking questions
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with everyone of Clara, Jimmy, everything is, Oh, how did
you get into this? What you what are you doing it?
It's another more question to this guy. But I watched this.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I think I wrote that down from my notes. Yeah,
no questions, and he just starts asking questions.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, I did watch this with my wife and about
half an hour and she did say, like, is this
supposed to be a shark film? So always nice when
that happens, Like why are we're watching this? So that's
And at the end of it, she did make it
to the end, which is rare. She said it wasn't bad,
but it wasn't great. So she didn't say bad. She's
a worse word than that, which she sat through a
lot of these films, she said, to a lot of
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these ones with me, and sometimes they are worse. But
this is just this was so straightforward that it wasn't
offensively bad. I guess, yeah, it's not offensively bad.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I think I think most people could sit through this
movie because eighty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's not it's just not a lot
to it, really.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And they're wearing suits in the outback that are have
no sweat stains.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, it's not right. It's just not right. They had
a cool like floating underwater light thing. You need to
give them illumination down there. I kind of like that. Yeah,
like s semi floating thing. That was nice.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I mean it's smart. The choices, all the choices in
this movie makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
They stab a shark in the gills, Yeah, it's happened
with in the gills. That's rare. And the Russian guys
pulling a gold teethous one's head by hand, not with
tools by hand, just putting teeth out with his hand.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think that was my favorite touch because I had
the most person that the knife throw, the tooth rip,
the shark in a van. Those are probably my three
favorite parts.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I think that's that's fair. They didn't make enough
of the shark in the van. But if you if
you make more of that, then you've got to start
having effects of a shark being in a van.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I love the shark in a van.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, because you know, it's a shocking a trash compator
in DBC three, it's stick the shock in something. That's
why you look see it's a shock in a kitchen.
Was they don't get a kitchen, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Know, like locks it in there. She's smart enough to
lock it in there. There's really no danger though, and
also criminals are dumb. You have most of the gold,
most of it. Yeah, just get out of there.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Cool it quits you.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, like I know you want more and maybe you
told somebody more about like listen, we got half, we
got most of it. There's a bull shark down there.
We hired this crew. It was crazy. This fisherman was eating.
This is good. And if it was just their heist,
get out of there. I just you got enough. That's
a lot of gold, Jay.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean, I couldn't imagine
that there's somebody higher up the chain. It's like, where's
the rest of my gold? Go and get the rest
of my old or you're dead.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Do they say that?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
No, I'm just I'm assuming, Oh, okay, that's just my
you know, that's how mob some one seems tend to work.
Like there's someone further up the chain. If there wasn't
someone for the chain, then the main bad guy wouldn't
be there. He'd be for the train telling something else
to go and do the thing. Yeah, I assume.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Where's my goal. Yeah, if we don't get this gold
there in a week, we're dead. Get it a Yeah.
I don't think they say that.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
No, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
But yeah, there's just like three weeks later they're happy,
like they're really happy. Three weeks later they get all
the money.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
They're happy even before we're.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Going to buy a boat. Yeah, let's see. What did
I write my notes? I wrote big helmets, drunk guy
two fifty, no questions, Uh, what's see? Let's see drowned rat,
young fella. That's I don't like how many. I have
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a lot of notes here, but none of them are
really popping out to me.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
The poster on the Wikipedia page, the post is pretty cool.
It's a big shark coming on to a guy. Just
blow the surface. What do you think of the title
fear below? I think that works well for a name.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, just call it a van, call it river nineteen
forties riversharks what it is?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Because that's the problem. There's fear below, there's deer. There's
just so many fears going on.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, it's too like I do often think back of
the films that we covered and think, like which one,
which one was Into the Deep? Which one was? No
way up?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Completely blanked that one out Jay with John Sada, and
the one where they're on the boat and there's like
the influencers and then the pirates come. I always forget
about that. We watched that movie.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Jay, Oh yeah, oh yeah, I think I think that
was Into the Deep. I'm gonna have to check into.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
The I did a ranking. Do you want to hear it? Yes, okay,
so I did a ranking of it's a little controversial.
I might have to adjust it, but like I didn't.
This is like my ranking of recent shark movies going
back to about twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It was Into the Deep, and that's the one that
also had Richard Drakenson. I remember it now.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Okay, I think I might have left some out, but
here it is. I think it's a tie from first place,
Dangerous Animals and Deep BLUEC three, But I don't know.
I'll put the I don't know. We'll say those are
one and two. Number three is under Paris. Number four
is deep bluecy two. Number five is meg too. Number
six is forty seven meters down uncaged seven is the Meg.
Now this is gonna be crazy, but I put wait eight,
(26:09):
I'm gonna do eight last breath, nine Fear below because
it's just so inoffensive. And then the reef Stalked, Like
I think the reef Stalked is good, but that trauma
subplot is just so odd shark bait if they just
like all that cheating nonsense, like great idea and you
just kind of but the ending's great. And then I
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have something in the water Black Demon Racken, Deep Fear,
man eater into the deep, No Way Up, Great White.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Okay, I was trying to keep track of them as
you're going, and I think I lost you around something
in the water. So can you repeat the.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Same something of black Demon yep Rakkeen Racken. That might
be higher Deep Fear, which is the lady the cocaine sharks.
I think a man eater into the.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Into the deep.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I could potally forgot what into literally and I looked.
I looked at it and went, what is this movie?
And then no Way Up? And then Great White.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Okay, so of those I still have yet to see man.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Eata, what's your one through four?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Of all these, I mean, oh, I reckon my number one.
I'm gonna have no one as Under Paris at the moment.
I really did love Under Paris. I need to watch
it again. I really enjoy Under Paris. Then mm hmm.
C three probably up there. It's just being a great film.
(27:42):
Dangerous animals. I love dangerous Animals. I did really enjoy
the Last Breath. That's what I was. Breath was fantastic,
and have underwater Surgery, which, yeah, great, So I have
Last Breath is one of before.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, Last Breath should be a little higher for me.
I like that movie.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Then I'll put forty seven meters down to Engaged because
sharks are fun. Then I'll put DEPC two I haven't forgot.
I'll put.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Then in the end of the list.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
It's difficult. So then I think I had Yeah, I've
got Meg two just above the Meg. I am planning
to watch the Meg two again soon just to remind me.
And then yeah, then we get into the rest of
the films.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
We can it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So I'm gonna mirror you and have great white and
No Way up at the bottom too, because Great White
a film we have never covered. I'm just going to
refuse to cover.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You think I'm in a deep blue sea to myself
with that one, I know.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But I also love that whenever we say to people, like,
any films you want to cover, no one said Great White.
No one will ever say Great Way. No one's like, hey,
I want to talk about No, that's not gonna happen. Uh,
let's see. Yeah, I think let's put the reef Stalk
to next because that's a good film, just has the
most trauma like to start with. And that did the
(29:15):
bunch and it surprised me, like I didn't. I always
enjoy when a film does like come out and say, hey,
this is how we're going to start this film, Like wow,
I didn't see that coming at all. You got me.
Good for you a shock, but I'm gonna put down
the Bottom because I didn't. I was not a fan
of Shocked. But it should have been better because it's
shark and a jet ski. Ah, I've just had done
(29:37):
the same thing as you were, like, like what was
into the Deep? What's that one that we talked about?
So yeah, that could be next? Then I'll put rokeen
wherever you say Deep Fear? Which one was Deep Fear.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
The Cocaine one?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, okay, I didn't I didn't hate the Cocaine one.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Uh sorry, The restocked as a great poster to it.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Sure does. Yeah, Something in the Water. It is only
good because it's got seven h.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I don't even remember what that song is.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's like, stop, don't stop moving, don't stop moving.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So the one thing I remember, I'm wrong, but I
got stop right, don't stop if you can, like.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
That's yeah, you're fine.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
But I think I combined that with there's murder on
the dance floor. So DJ, please don't kill the movie
or something.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, so my I think I've missed one. But yeah,
so starting under paris deep three Dangerous Animals.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
So we have the same top three.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, just sent order. Yeah, footage of me is down
on Caged Dope two, the make two Make to the Reef,
the mag Reef, stalked Black Demon, Deep Fear Fear below
Something in the Water. They're a keen into the deep
Shock Bait. No way up great wite.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Well, yeah, shark Bait is just the biggest disappointment. I
need to watch it. Again maybe because I just hate
the people in it. Our top nine is it's not
the same, Jay, But we have the same movies, the
same top nine. Actually the top ten is the same,
just you know, different orders, obviously, because it would be
(31:32):
insane if we had the same top ten. But sure,
that's good. We have the same ten in the our
top tens in different order.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, and I think I think that's fair. And fear
Below didn't make it into mine.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think, oh it didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
My ten ends up Black Demon in your ten. Oh okay,
the reef stalked, So I think you.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Know what, Josh Lucas's performance pretty much puts it in
the top ten because he's unhinged in that one.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
He yes, sure, but it didn't make it into your
top ten. Now, first one, I would say, you know,
the top eight are probably worth your time. Listeners. If
you're like, if you've arrived at our episode on whatever,
this film was called to the flow, Hey what other
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shark films should have watched instead? There are better ones
out there.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Last Breath, So Jay, like, if we're talking so direct
to streaming, that's not Netflix, right or Deep Blue Sea two?
Because I was Warner Brothers, so if we're talking about
like independently produced type shark movies, Last Breath.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The Last Breath, the Restalked, non ip, Yeah, Black Demon, Yeah,
I would say check out Last Breath, the Restorked, Black Demon.
You can you can.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Look at Yeah, those are fun. Those are a good time.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, and that they have more of a hook than
just it's in the past.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I know, I remember thinking, oh, I remember I message
you after I watched this. I went this movie is
so straightforward. This is a this is kind of a
nightmare movie to podcast about because there's nothing like if
you're just like a snarky person, there's not much to
hate on. And then if you are trying to find
(33:31):
the positives, you're like, well it's it's eighty five minutes
and it's structured, it makes sense, and that's about it.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, let's not drag it out any more than we
have to. Then discussion, that's all I have. Yeah, that's
that's all we got. And so listeners to this is
your first episode, and welcome. Whenever we cover a new film,
I as I'll go through, I work out how deep
or the action taking place is during that film, how
blue everything on screen is, and how much it takes
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place at sea. This is of course deep Blue Sea.
The podcast So Deep the Sea is on average approximately
fourteen and a half meters of forty seven and a
half feet deep, about thirty one percent blue and eighty
nine percent of it takes place at sea. Mark, do
you think Fear Below is deeper blue or more at
sea than Deep Blue Sey? No, of course it's It
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actually ends up being below the surface in terms of
depth wise on average, just because they never really go
up high anywhere. They like stay on the ground or
go a little bit underwater.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
They say, you know, what's sixteen eighteen feet below? Is
that what it is?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
That's what they say. So this works out of being
on average about ero point thirty nine meters or one
point three feet underwater, which means it's slightly deeper than
the sea beast and slightly less deep than DAWs two.
In terms of blueness, this is not a very blue
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film at all. Whenever when they are underwater, it is yellow,
it is brown. It's only really the sky that is
blue at any given point. So I worked out this
was about six point a lot of blue sky, but
that but not enough to put it that high in
the ranking. So it's six point three percent blue, means
it's bluer than Primal, but less blue than Deep Water
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that ben Afflet, Canada, Armor's film that has nothing to
do with under Blue Water under a Door. And in
terms of the Senus, it's never at sea. They are
never at Sally. They are when they are in the river.
They are in the water, but they are not at sea.
So it's zero percent. Thirty four point six percent is
in the water, which means it's more in the water
than Night Swim, less in the water than Alligator, but
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it's still at zero percent, along with ten other films
that never go into the sea. Yeah, so that's March.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
There's something wrong with the pool.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
There's something wrong with the pool. It's just with the pool. Okay, fine,
stop going in it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
There's just something wrong dad pool.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I did enjoy Night Swim. It's such a city premise.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Like who's a legitimate like Treasure Oscar nominated person, why
at Russell, who's great? And then a good kid actors
and then.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You know something wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Is something wrong with that pool.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't know what it is. It turns out, yes,
there is something wrong with the pool. It's like something
of untapped well to the demon.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, so you know when you put your hands on
your like so you're not putting your hands on your
hips per se, You're putting the back of your hands
on your hips. You know what I'm talking about. You
know when you stand like people stand like that, Yeah,
it's really hotter. You have gloves on, you don't want
to put them against your sides like people stand like that,
one foot out in front of the other and just no,
there's just something wrong with this pool.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
And they are right in this instance. They are right.
There is something wrong with the pool.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
There's just something wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Great, well, that will do it for a discussion and
night smim once again. Uh Mark anything to plug and things.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Promote Just moves on the flicks the podcast website, read
the reviews.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
You can find my writ favorite life as his film
dot com where I've almost finished going through season two
of Twin Peaks. I don't know what I'm gonna I
just don't know what to do after that. I know
what I'm gonna do will be Twin Peaks. If I
walk with me in Twin Peaks to return, I'm sure soon,
and then I'll be done with Twin Peaks. I guess
I'm enjoying it. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
My word pines.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay. If someone gets stuck Matt, Matt Dylan gets stuck
in the town, He's like, something wrong with this town.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Something wrong with his townh just hands on his hips
for an hour and a half a week.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Everywhere they go, You do someone wrong with this town.
We need to make that move Jay and the Trauma
movie with the Twins.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I mean, just to make them the same film.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Uh, yeah, what if it happens in the Twin Cities.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
There we go in Minneapolis. Yeah, great, Well, come back
lakes in Minnesota. J oh Okay, there's something wrong with
this lake. Well, next week Preachers funny out.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Twelve people doing that. Six periods of twins go all
all at the same time. There's something wrong with this lake.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And then you cut to underwater and there's six shots.
There's something wrong with these twins. Great, well, next week
preaches finding out for there's something wrong with the oven
when he's trapped in that In an episode of DeepC
with a guest aide more from Out Now Without an Ape,
a very fun episode we've already recorded It was a
good time, so come back next week for that one.
But as for today's show, has for fear below I
(38:53):
have been Jake LeWitt, Mark arth Meyer and we'll deep
blue see you next week. Don't know any day away
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