Episode 239 (Angry Goldfish)

Jay and Mark are joined by Rev. Scott K from The Church of Tarantino (churchofqtpod on Instagram) to discuss "A Whole Lot Worse," the 18th chapter of Deep Blue Sea. In this episode, they also talk about Carter's leadership skills, theatre sharks, and Sam Jackson's creature-related deaths.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am Mark, you should see Ice half Meyer.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Jay. Hell No, hell no, cluet. Welcome
to Deep Blue see the podcast. On this show, we've
been through the entire Deep Blue Sea trilogy, scene by scene,
and we're doing it again with all new guests, the
same film again because we love it so.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Much again and again too.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Maybe we might change what the chapters are next time.
I think maybe might move things around. We'll see.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
With this steval style, Sure, we'll.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Do it back. We'll do like half going forwards, half
going back with meat in the middle, which would be
a few weeks. It would have been when we met.
We're over the halfway point at this point, so this
would be one of the last chapters we get to.
I think one of the first. I don't know. Well,
this is one out to eighteen dive two. That's what
happens in that chapter. Let's take a listen. The substible
room is rocks by the kitchen explosion.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Is that the surface, No, the vibrations are too deep.
That was from inside.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Russell inspects the open water pool.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I wouldn't get that close to fire with you just
a suggestion. Water's murky, you might make it. No way, No, we.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Won't skugan stufs to move equipment away from a wool.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's two hundred and thirty feet from the lagoon floor
to the lagoon surface. The average human swims two feet
per second. The average sharks swims fifty feet per second.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
There's no way I am getting into that pool. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
What we have here is your basic maintenance ladder. This
leads all the way up to the surface.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I love these Scott's I really do. Why do I
feel a butt coming on?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
But we don't know what kind of shape The surface
levels in the shaft is air locked. But if the
explosion has breached the shaft at surface level in any way,
we won't have enough pressure in here to keep a
wet pool stabilized.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Mister, pool isn't stabilized.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
There's about a million tons of ocean just dying to
get in here to bring the whole facility down. We're
better off taking our chances with the shot.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Hey, you want to go swim with your little fishes?
Miss you go right ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Me.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm opening this door and I'm climbing out of here.
The hell you are? Hey, I don't work for you anymore, Okay,
I don't have to take enough.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
That's enough now from all of you. You think water's fast,
you should see ice. It moves like it has a mind,
like it knows. It's killed the world once and got
a taste for murder when the avalanche came. It took

(02:52):
us a week to climb out, and somewhere we lost hope.
Now I don't know exactly when we turned on each other.
I just know that seven of us survived the slide
and only five made it out. Now, we took an

(03:15):
oath and I'm breaking now. Swore that we'd say it
was the snow that killed the other two, but it wasn't.
Nature can be lethal, but it doesn't hold a candle
to man. Now you've seen how bad things can get

(03:36):
and how quick they can get that weight, Well, they
can get a whole lot worse. So we're not gonna
fight anymore. We're gonna pull together. We're gonna find a
way to get out of here. First, we're gonna seal
off this pool.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Ju jumps out and bites Franklin, dragging him into the Wallter, No,
what is okay about this underwater? The too many shocks
raped Franklin.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Apart, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
In the Submissibo, Skulken's cls up next to a pillar.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
It just ate them, It just ate them. Christ I'm
not moving. I'm not moving from here. Someone will come.
They'll come and they'll get us and we'll be fine. Scars. No,
I'm not moving. I'm not moving. No. What is the
precise structural failure limit for aquatica? Thirty two hundred tons?

(04:45):
Come on, Tom, what happens.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
When we get more than thirty two hundred tons of
water in this rig? The support struts go first. They're
tolerance is about seven tons. They're gonna crack like toothpicks,
and the walls are gonna buck. They can't handle more
than ten tons of pressure. You want to be here

(05:11):
for that?

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Man?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Hell no, hell no.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Scoggins takes cut his hand and gets up. And that
was deep with se one, Chapter eighteen. We need we
have a new guest, tell us all this. He's not
been on before, but he is very used talking about
films in which Semina Jackson has a monologue and possibly dies,
so he should be very very relevant relevant to this
week's episode. From the Church intern. You know it's the
Reverend Scott Ky Scott, welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Thank you, gentlemen for having me. It's a pleasure.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
It's a pleasure to come on and talk about sharks
and Samuel Jackson.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Listen, I have a big question for you. Go ahead, okay.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
So I went through Tarantino's filmography, Yes, and I pulled
the kind of surprising deaths that happened in his films.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Glad you could have had a little note about that.
Go ahead. Now.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
I didn't pull the group scene, you know, once upon
time in Hollywood. I didn't see that coming. It was hilarious.
Like I knew there was gonna be violence, but not
like that inglorious bastard. I didn't include the pub scene
or whatever you call it, because that's just so sudden,
but it I just went one death and I want
you to like, I don't know if we're gonna rank them,
but these are the ones I pulled.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
So I have John the hangman.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Ruth from Hateful Eight just starts vomiting blood, you know,
if it's from coffee, but I still probably would drink
the coffee because I love it.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Worth it. And then we have Vincent Vega.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, you drink the eat fun of like this killed
Cut Russell. I'm having that the same method as Cut.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
What happened to Mark?

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, Kurt Russell got poisoned by coffee and then Mark was.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Like you know what, me too? Me too? Yeah, and
so you know, like that's what happened to Mark.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's like his wife's not happy, but you know, okay,
Calvin Candy from Django because you know, I think I
think good old Christoph is I'm done with this dude
and just pops them like that was that was pretty sudden.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'm gonna go Marvin from Pulp Fiction.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
And also I'm gonna I'm gonna add the cohunaburger from
the MTV skit that gets shot.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Did you ever see that? You know what I'm talking about? Yes, Okay,
so the Cohuna burger.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I'm gonna go Melanie from Jackie Brown because just like
you're like, what, just what I'm gonna do? Beaumont as well,
you kind of saw it coming, but you didn't eat
in it exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
That's nice wide shot. We're gonna go mister Blonde for
most of.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Our dogs because he's just dancing about the murder and
then he gets shot. Just wroth his limp. I want
Tim ross Roll just lay somewhere for a long period
of time.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
But in all that blood though, that had to be Yeah,
that had to be a tough couple of days. Shoot,
just laying a pool of blood.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
All right, Now I need you groan. Now, I need
you to grunt. Now, I need you to lay there.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I can dying here.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
And then we're I'm gonna add in Russell from Deep
Blue Sea since this is the chapter.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, do you think any of these surprise shot deaths
from any of these movies are comparable with Russell's Demise
and Deep Blue Sea?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Or do you want to rank them? Do you? Damn it?
I was thinking about this in the shower this morning.
That's weird. People are like, what, Yes, when you podcast,
do you think about steer shower?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
You use movies, you use every spare second. You have
to think about what you want on my drives. I
listen to things, you know, in the bathroom, shower, walking,
watering the lawn. I'm like listening to I'm listening to
YouTube clips, So yeah, I get you.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Have notes tabs I have from dog Walks one hand man.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
This is probably as surprising, you know, I think I
originally when I was thinking about this, I thought maybe
it would be Vincent's death. But it's not surprising because
it's set up for us right when they first meet
at the bar or at the strip, and you're not
my friend Beluga.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
You know, we already know those attentions.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
So when they see each other, even right before Vince
gets shot, he has that recognition of like, yeah, I
know you're about to kill me. Like you if you
watch his face, he's kind of like, yeah, I know
exactly why you're about to pull the trigger because he's like, uh,
I called you this punchy and all this.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yep, I would do the same. So it's almost like
game respects game, you know it is.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
I think mister Blonde is the most surprising. I remember
watching when Marvin got shot, but I always remember when
he's running got the gun, I'm like, he's gonna be
shooting him, He's not careful, and then of course the
gun goes off and he kills him. So you're so
sucked into mister Blonde. And of course as we record,
he's you know, mister Matts and is sadly passed. A
couple of weeks ago as he's dancing and you know,

(09:43):
he's cut him up, and now we think he's gonna
set him on fire. And at this point we don't
know who's who, because you know, mister Orange looks like
he's dead. It's still could be mister blue hell, could
still be mister Blonde who did all this stuff because
he's just a psychopath.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
And are you ready?

Speaker 5 (09:56):
You're like fire and then all of a sudden the
gun shots and you're like, what the where did that?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I'm from?

Speaker 5 (10:00):
I think that is probably the most shocking because to
go to your John Ruth one, oh be starts to
do it.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
First, Yeah, pob poor oby ohb.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Starts to get sick first, and then they're like, oh,
this isn't gonna go well, and then of course John
Ruth joins him.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Uh, Melanie, that's a good one too. That that's a
close one. That could probably number two. That's brutal right.
It's my wife and I do that to each other
all the time. Where's the Carl Lewis.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
It's just like bang bang it is right right park Like,
oh man who's been married and seth wife was like
nagged him before, Like it's a moment, you can totally like, go, yeah,
I can.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
See how that man can get pushed that far. After
a while, it's just lowis.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Just dragging out his But if I had a rank,
and I probably I probably go blonde, then Melanie would
be two.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
And what was hangman Vega Candy Marvin, Melanie Beaumont blonde?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Maybe you know what, maybe Candy Candy.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
And I've said this on my podcast.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I love Schultz, but Schultz is a buddy.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
From that moment.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Yeah, finally the wolves Den and you and the only
thing keeping He'll the and Jangle live.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Even though we know Jangle's a batman. And he goes,
you know, two pot kicks in with with what's it
and it's just all hell breaks.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
But when he shoots him, he leaves his friend like
It's one of the things I've said on the podcast,
like it makes Shultz suddenly this real douche, Like I
get it. Yes, Candy deserves to be killed. Then you
come up with a plan to kill him later, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Now you know where he's gonna be when he does
these these fights. Just find him outside and kill him.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
The olds fashion right to shoot him in the middle
when he did oof. I mean you're talking about he
left Django and Hilly at the Wolf's tend like they
I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
About like literally deep. He's literally trapped underwater with sharks
surfing the entire time, and so that would be probably
number three.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
But yeah, I still think that that shark coming out
of the middle of the little area there and grabbing
him in the close up, that's shocking, Like I don't
know people talking about that for a very long time,
Like that was what sold this movie to people, Like,
you know, back in the water cooler days before we
had social media, when people were like, you go to
a movie word of mouth some of like Samuel Checkson

(12:21):
gets Eaten out of the Blue, and people are like,
what do you mean you go through the whole movie
waiting it happens? Is I mean great marketing for them
as well.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Oh yeah, gorgeous scene and another question for you see,
I'm gonna take the Kahunaburger just because I love the
tomato in that guy's hair later on, because that made
me very happy. MTV Movie Awards used to be pretty awesome,
if you remember, and the.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
CV used to be pretty awesome, you know, like remember
in the Cell.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
They like gave awards to Lockstock and two Smoking Barrels
and Swingers and Virgin Suicides and Rushmore and Bottle Rocket
and one False Move. Like I learned about some pool
films from the MTV Movie Awards. But also I want
one thing I want. I want you to rank Sam
Jackson characters from least to most likely in Quentin Tarantino

(13:09):
films to be eaten by a shark. So we got
Stephen from Django. We're not gonna do that. We're not
gonna do the narrator from Gloria.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Okay, good good the uh we're going with that kilvill
Vine too as Rufus Rufus. So we got Rufus. We
have Ordell, we have Warren.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah uh, and then we have Jules and Steven. I
want so we have one, two, three, five characters and
most likely to least likely gonna be eaten by a shark.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'm gonna go most likely as is Ordell because he's
so cocky. Yeah. I think Ordell will just stand there
like this shark. You know, he'd be so cocky, like
he'd try to shoot the shark. I think he's most
likely to be by the shark.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Then the piano player, because he's a piano player, right, Like,
he's probably just like looking over the water, is there
sharks in there? You know he's gone. God, now we've
got some. Now you're just talking about tough sons and bitches.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, Stephen's a shark if you think about it, Steven's
a shark.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yep, the sharks afraid of jewels and maybe even Marquest.
Mark Quest is almost like my Quest is taunting the
shark about how he the shark's mother getting to come
out of the water so he can shoot. He's just
regaling stories of black dicks and white sharks. That'd be

(14:34):
a great that'd be a great spin, right, we need
that'd be a great man.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
We're missing one other. Who's the other full great white shark? Oh,
that'd be great, that'd be great.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
And so we have Stephen and Steve, Stephen and Stephen
and those three, I mean, how do they get eaten?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Stephen can getting because he's old, right like.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Maybe age slips and falls that so Stephen probably then
you got jewels and Marquest.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Like Stephen, that's a trip to the ocean.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
They're you know, they're in the south, over the Atlantic
or the Gulf and then he's just bathing and shark
keeps them well.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
And this is not being me, but he's what in Mississippi. Yeah,
and he's probably never swam in his life. He gets
in the water, that's it for him, right, I mean
besides the age.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
But when he get in the water, is he ever
gonna be in the very smart proximity like situation is
gonna be. I've got Stephen last just because I don't
see him of being in a situation where there's also
going to be a shark.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
And I almost feel like if mark the rest of
the order, but I've got him dead lists Jews are
gonna get because they're gona try to kill the shark
like they actually are, Like like where Ordella is just
cocky and thinks he's just the man. Yeah, those two
are actually killers. They're almost like the shark. I'm going
out that I'm killing the shark. So that's how they
probably get eaten. You know, I would agree with you.
I think I'm gonna I'll go with Jay and I

(15:51):
will say probably Steve in his last he's the last
person get eat in.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Just think that also old age. I'm getting older.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
I'm almost fifty there are things you don't do anymore
after a certain age, Like I've start stopped playing competitive
stuff because too many people are tearing their achilles.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'm like, I don't need to tear my achilles. I'm like,
I don't. I don't need that injury that now I'm
hampered in my sixties. I'm limping into my seven you.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
Know, like when you're twenty or thirty, you're like, you'll
jump off off moving jet. You're like Tom Cruise, You'll
hang from things, You'll do stupid. But as you get older,
you're like, I need to think about it. If I'm gonna
get injured, is that gonna be require a limp a
cane later on?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
You know?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
So I think you're right. I don't think Steven goes
near that water, and also Jewels.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
And Ordell are pretty close to water, whereas I think
Warren and Steven like. And also I don't know how
popular swimming in the ocean was, you know, the eighteen
hundreds at that time, so it's like.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Or how allowed it was.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah, exactly, he's a black man on a plantation. I
don't see Candy taking him to the beach allowing him
in the water. So I think just in general the
time and the location. I would say Warren and Stephen
are last. But yeah, like I think Robbie, he's just
you're just getting there and not care.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
Then just to be eating, he'd be he'd be chasing
some girl out into the beach from every He's just
a melanie out there and he's gone snacked up.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
And then of course the piano player, he's just you know,
just completely oblivious to that there's a shark in the water.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Just you know, he was a piano player. He's not
a tough guy.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
He's probably regaling.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Stories of all the people he's played through as a
game to Texas, and he just doesn't realize there's shark. Actually,
that would be kind of like the monologue we get
as he's listing up all the people.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's when he gets attacked from behind by the shark.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
As he's mid sentenced, he's on a Texas beach bar
and just jumps out, oh that's good, all right.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I like that. I know it's a random question, but
I had that.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I like random questions, and I have something, Jay, I
think you're really gonna like Tarantino loves Cutthroat Island, as
he should he said.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
He's like, he's like, it's fantastic movie.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
They build this entire bay, the village and there's this
great action sequence they had to do no CG I involved.
I think that there's just something terribly something terribly lost
or just something terribly lost on the picture in the movie,
and there's a horrible loss when it comes to craftsmanship,
and I think that I don't know, I like it.
He loves he loves cutthroat, cutthroat Island.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
So he loves beating stuff, right like, he's a fan
of that.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Renny Harlan, Yeah, he was, he was, He loved He's
a huge crawl guy.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Rules. He loves Renny Harlan.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
He's a he's an interesting director, right like, he his
films all over the map.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
And he does die Hard too, which is spectacular. And
then you know he's got We'll cut the Islands not
exactly held in high regards, and.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
He's just he's just all a you know, you can't
he's a he's a director you can't just pin down.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, we've we've been trying. We've covered most of his
films at this point, and that there's not a Hilda
can assistance, but we love it. We love the guy.
We love most of his films.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's just there's no Strangers at trilogy starting.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, well, I mean we've seen one so far. Time
of recording kind of feel like he's just getting that
one out of the way so we can do two
and three because one is basically a remake of the Orision.
So really intrigued see where he goes.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
He said in Latvia and they're like, you have film
three movies in fifty days, and they had yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
He had no he had no pre pro like we
researched this.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
He he like, he had like two weeks, three weeks,
and then they had to hire actors as they were
going out there like he They're like, listen, Renny, you
can make You've made Five Days of War in like
eighteen days and people spoke eighteen languages on that set. Uh,
go make go to Latvia make three movies fifty days.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
We don't have a cast yet yet.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I had like a month a month of of
pre production on Legend of Hercules.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
So yeah, he's become this guy who I think even
Bricklayer they said that, they're just hey, listen, man, you
got twenty minutes a pre pro go make this movie.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
So I think he I think he's become that guy.
He's like, can I finish lunch? No?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
But yeah, they they know that they can get him
to make a movie really fast and it and it's good.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's totally cromulent.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
And you know, he doesn't have much time, he doesn't
have much editing time, he doesn't have probably like sometimes
enough money, but he can go get it done. And
that's what makes I think that's what he's been kind
of characterized lately of just like, listen, we need a
movie made, give it to Renny. He'll be done in
three weeks and it'll be pretty good. So like that's

(20:55):
kind of what he's become. But this one, you know,
with Deep Blue c he had Long Kiss good Night
is an incredible film, and Cutthroat Island it's gorgeous when
you look at it, but it was definitely a dud.
So on this one, I think he had a little
bit of like studio oversight looking over him, and so
I think they rained in some of his more impulsive,

(21:16):
like Cutthroat Island ideas, and I think that he was
kind of in studio mode, but he was also they
allowed him to still be Renny, and I think that's
why this movie is so good, Like he didn't just
go like you know, when he got married to Geena
Davis had elephants and they had like hot air balloons,
as you's like, so the guy goes big. And I
think in this one, they're like, listen, you got a
big budget. We're sending you to the Titanic stages. Just

(21:37):
make a good movie. And then they had people watching
him so that there was no air balloons on set,
and I think he turned out like an awesome movie.
So it like with a lot of fun stuff. So
and especially this scene which is long remembered. Yes, I
love it, and it's during a time with the nineties.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
One of my notes was like in the nineties, obviously
we had the big independence renaissance that was going on,
but we also had this like disaster movie Like it
was like the seventies had returned to the nineties like
disaster movies, and this is technically a disaster movie. It
was just it was just a thing that was going
on in the nineties that we didn't realize. It was
just like, I mean, we had we had competing armageddon

(22:14):
movies and Armageddon deep impact, and they literally came out
with like within a year or a couple months of
each other.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
You're just kind of like, oh, that's the same, just
two different people and competing a lot of the movies.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, like we're just blowing like and I think did
it start with Rolling Emeric maybe just blowing everything up
in Independence Day.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Dependence and then they were just like listen, blows off up. Yeah,
made a lot of money. Yeah, and so like listen,
destroy things do it.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
And we had Twister come out with Yep, Twister was big, huge,
and we also had Anaconda and the Relic and Deep
Rising and Lake Placid in this like it was a
good time for just like so Ronnie Harlan's like, listen,
monster movies are big and destruction movies are big.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, Titanic probably helped with the destruction stuff. Oh yeah,
well you wait for three hours for the destruction. The
destruction part, it's.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Great, and then they're like, you know what, just combine
them and then we get the amazing deep Blue Sea,
which made me happy.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
But did so you saw this in theaters? I did? Yeah,
in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Look, I love being born when I was born, I know,
I'm closing it out of fifty, which means, you know,
I'm getting older.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
But the nineties was just my favorite air to go
to the movies.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I mean, obviously being a Tantino fan, I loved independent
films and everything we're getting, but I mean the disaster,
it was just a fun time. We've kind of broken
that mold what we had in the ages, which you know,
as a kid of the eighties, there's a lot of
the eighties MoES. I really still hold Deer because I
was a kid, you know, and those are like the
formative movies of my my child, like Aliens, Diehard, Predator,
Like to me, those are uninimpeachable movies like those are

(23:53):
some of the greatest things ever. But it was just
something about you in the nineties. You went to the theater.
There was a movie culture for Jenik. We went to
the movies all the time, and so it didn't matter
what it was, you know it like you said, it
could be lock Stock and two smoking barrels and then
you're gonna go see a volcano or you know, then
you're saying, bestrids out and you're going to like, oh,

(24:16):
it's Twister, like you just you're picking these like amazing
independent films.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
You're still going to these Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Insane blockbusters because they were fun movies at the time
and it was cheap to go back then as well.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, I worked in a theater, so I got to
watch Deep Blue c and I would go in and
watch everyone's reactions during the scenes and it's just such
a oh.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Man, that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
And also, Jay, I've talked about this a lot, but
I watched pulp fiction well of twelve with my mom
in a theater. Yes, and I'd watched Reservoir Dogs when
I was younger than that with my mom at my house.
So like by twelve swear word in the book, that's
for sure. But like, yeah, so another random this is
really random. If Tarantino could direct a Renny Harlan film,

(24:56):
and Renny Harlan could direct a Tarantino film, what would
you want?

Speaker 5 (25:00):
I think Tarantino would be great with the long kiss
good night. Yeah, I think I think that film would
be really I think he would. There'll be some changing. Obviously,
there'd be a lot more swearing, and the dialogue was
probably a little bit crisper, but there would be some stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Oh what could Rennie do?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Kill Bill Death death Proof, Death Proop is the Rennie
Harlan film that he that he would.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Do now again, those two would be crazy, you know,
and before AI takes us over and kills us all.
It'd be interesting to see if you can get those
kind of like if AI is good enough to do
like a mash up and give you like an idea
of what a Rennie Harlan what death Proof would look
like if he did it, and then you had like
Tarantino's version of The Long Kiss good Night. It would
be kind of fun if we ever get to that
point in AI before obviously you know, T two comes

(25:50):
out and destroy yourself. Oh, we become slaves like Matrix.
It'd be fun to see before those healthy on days. Uh,
if what those movies would look like, you could say, hey, AI,
what a movie by so and so, you know, director
by this guy look like instead of what we got?
Would be kind of a fun little exercise to.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
See have have Sam Jackson as stuntman Mike.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yes, well that could have happened either we get.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Sam Jackson in I Forget that the actress name of
place Kim you know at the end there, No, I
can't let you go without tapping that ass like she.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Is literally the Sam Jackson in that film. Yeah, so
I wish she was in more movies. She's amazing.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
But the then, like you said, with the Rennie Harlan
versus or with the Tarantooo version of Longest Kind, we
still have I O would see Sam Jackson staying in it.
Does he keep Geena Davis or does he move to
is it Uma? I think it is Uma.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I don't see anybody being better than Davis in that movie.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Though.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Oh I agree with her line delivery.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
So Sam Jackson said that's like his favorite movie that
he ever worked on.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
And she's she's perf.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
There's a scene where Sam Jackson's like checking out this
runner and Gena Davis is like, how's your neck? Like
her line delivery is so I mean, it's Shane Black dialogue,
but it's so. I mean, first, she's really smart Geena Davis,
but like her line delivery in that and like she's
just like she's kind of like Uma size, Like her
physicality is great.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, I can see either of them being in there.
I feel like having Tarantino do Look, he's gonna we're
missing the opportunity to have Tarantino to improve one of
the lesser Rennie films, because like as far as The Covenant, exactly,
Tarantinos the Covertino as far because can't make a bad film.

(27:40):
He's only made like great films, whereas Rennie has made
of the Covenant, He's made The Misfits. Tarantino's The Misfits
would be interesting. But I feel also like Tarantino would
make a good Adventures of Ford Failly. I realized Rennie's,
but I thought, that's that kind of dialogue plotting. There's

(28:00):
a mystery element, there's underbelly of isn't it's.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
It's very true romance kind of Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
It's crazy that he got Diehard t off of four
Fair Lane.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, he didn't got to be a lot of cocaine
in that room for that to be. Like you think
you do the Dinner too. I think the guy did
four Fair Lane, like you know what I mean, Like,
I think you're right. I want to be a part
of that meeting, Like really, you die Hard?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
But this, oh man, they came out like a week
apart from each other.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
They did, I know, yes, get five hours to prepare.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
That week was when you finished the other film.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Like we love that Ford fair Lane exists, but a
studio executive lost their job because of that movie because
you watch it and you go.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Who is who is this four?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Like obviously it's for everybody because it's insane, but you're watching,
you're you're.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Just going mechanical. Koala was England.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Fans. That's thing I can think of, because he was
big at the time with his h you know CD,
the Hickory Dickree doc and so they're like, well, if
they like his CD, you know, this is the Hollywood
thought process.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Of course it's gonna like him in a movie like that.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Those two things definitely go to hand in hand, and
it absolutely did not.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
But like, yeah, there's animatronic Koala on a cruise at
the NJ YEP, like I said in the nineties, So
I'm probably wrong here, but I was thinking mind Hunters.
But mind Hunters is perfect, So I don't know if
I want that.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
But I like Covenant. Yeah, The Covenant a bunch of
like dude witches.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
It's scrap it and stuff. Again, I just won't see
what he does with it.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's his tenth film, a remake of the Covenant.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Covenant, Like so I pitched a lot of articles in
my six as right is like one percent, and I
I kind of shoot myself in the foot a lot
because I I just pitch really insane articles that no
one will ever read. So I feel like this is
Tarantino shoot himself in the foot. What's your tenth movie,
Tarantino the critic? What's it going to be a remake

(30:16):
of the two thousand and six film The Covenant word style,
and it's just would probably get.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Like a.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Taylor Kitsch coming back, Taylor Kitchen.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
His beard just popping up. Oh yeah, so bring Sebastian
Stan Taylor Kitsch.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
That's a good cast.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Chase cruel food.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Oh yeah, oh Man from the Boys, Yeah, Stephen straight
from the expanse Yes and they're playing high schoolers.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I just dragged this into something, Scott, but I'm I'm
all for it. A remake of The cove It by
Quentin Tarantino.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I think I think death Ruth is the right answer
for what one did Rennie do Tarantinos.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, although the final chasing would definitely be different. A
lot of explosions, oh yes, Like when they go through
the sign that it's exploding, it doesn't just shatter in
pieces of that thing is explode when they hit that boat.
The boat's bigger, it's like a yacht that's on the
side that thinges. Oh yeah, and it's a slow mode too,

(31:29):
because you know, Stantone loves that.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Actually suggesting Rennie do another car film, given how much
I hated Driven, but we'll see this one's different.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Good thing about Rennie is he would drive cars in
the cars, and I don't think he would make Sam
Jackson eat a full plate of Nacho Grande and the
grossest eating scene.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
The problem with depth proof is I have to mute
that conversation. I have to put I mute it, and
I put the subtitles on to watch that conversation at
the restaurant because everyone's smacking food so loudly. I've never
been diagnosed. I'm pretty sure I'm mesophomia, where I just
can't handle smacking of food and gum smacking. It's like
that whole scene I was in the theater and misery.
So I just watch it, I pause, I mute it,
and I put the subtitles on to read that scene.

(32:12):
Just letting everyone know some inside Hoffmark stuff right here.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Should so someone doesn't like you they're gonna they're gonna
tell you they don't like you just by chewing. Hey,
I'm hating Mark today. Oh yeah, he's a he's chewing.
If you don't like him, bring some not because just chew,
why you talk to him? He'll he'll love that. Mark
Hofmar is arrested yesterday. I never tell him what a fork.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I never tell my students about it because I you know,
they're pretty cool, but I don't ever, so I just
kind of bear it because you don't let people know
your weaknesses.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
But I think on a podcast, it's probably fine.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, but uh, we should probably talk about this scene, right, sure,
yeah at some.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Point yeah too, even uh, this.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Seems great and I love Jay. We know enough about this.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
But Brennye was like Sam Jackson and him decided they
were gonna make movies so the rest of their lives together,
and then he's gonna make Deep Lucy and Sam Jackson's like,
what's my role? So then they kind of had to
like switch everything around make him a billionaire. They took
all of Ronnie Cox's lines away, and then he didn't
die in Long Caist good Night, so he's like, I'm
gonna kill him here he said, he totally ripped off
alien and we have one.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
They did kill him incas good night. Initially it was
now draft for they did, and the reaction was like,
you can't kill Sam Jackson, but you gotta kill.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, And they just obliterated him on a great speech.
Is this up there with some of his best monologues
from Tarantino movies or no?

Speaker 5 (33:42):
I mean he's so good at monologing right, Like it's
like listen Christopher Walking monologue. It's like, could you imagine
the two of them just in a just monologue each other,
and who could be more menacing?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Walking or Samuel.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Like would be great one one, massive room one and
keeping to one end Sam Jackson bone logging and Chris
the other guy, just.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Keep going back and doesn't. He's like, I kept this
shark tooth in my butt first it is? It is
up there.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
And I'll give a tip of the hat to Rennie
because he's he's doing a lot of great filmmakers, which
is subverting your expectations. This is Samuel Jackson at this
point in his career.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
We know who he is.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
He's been in a couple of movies. He's the badass
Samuel Jackson, like you said, doesn't get killed. Samuel Jackson
convinced George Lucas to make a purple lightsaber. Samuel Jackson
is that guy. So when he's standing there and look
like you, Mark, I went to film school. I now
teach elements of it to middle schoolers, which it's like

(34:52):
being eaten by sharks. You do it for college kids.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's a much better You are a much stronger person
than me. I talked. I taught middle school for one
day and I went, I am never going back. It's
a lot. It is like being with sharks, and we
need we need strong people like you.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Though. Yeah, those are.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Formative years, he guess, just in video it will be
like strong equal Its like it's uh stupid someone who's
not very black.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Uh. But so we're sitting there and as as people
who know you go, oh, they're getting close and he's
standing by the water and he just stepped out, like oh,
you know, like maybe the first time watching it, you're
just you're sucked in, but after that you go, oh,
I see it. I see it coming.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Like you know, like when we do the old scenes
where people are walking towards a crosswalk but we've locked
the camera off you go, they're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Hit like this comes moments you go. The minute they
start to that road, they're.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Getting hit by something that we don't sea, so they
can do the old freeze frame to get the dirty
you know, we've got the nice clean place. We can
do all the CGIs that we need to do to
have them get hit, and you can kind of see
that coming. But the genius is then when we cut
to the close upbove him.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, you don't expect the surprise doesn't usually happen in
the close up, right, The prize is not in the
close up, but usually in the wide so we can
see all of that.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
And then we cut to the final destination, correct, like
where hit by the bus.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
There's that big wide shot exactly.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
So it might have been also easier for the CGI
folks back in the nineties. That's what I was thinking,
because you know, look, I hate when people become a
CGI snobs or racist as one of my buddies calls them.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
It's nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Yeah, we understood, like it's yes, the technology has moved ahead,
but even you get the flash, you know what I
mean that modern time they're like dogs so hey, that's
on purpose, And.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, we have to be okay to say like, yeah,
what it looked like?

Speaker 5 (36:45):
A ninety nine in the theaters looked amazing because at
that point.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
We hadn't seen anything like it.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
Sure, now in twenty twenty five, you go back twenty
six years ago, Oh, that looks like, well, yes, it
was twenty six years ago. You would hope technology had advanced.
Like the flash is no excuse. Deep Blue Sea has excuses.
It was twenty six years earlier when the technology was
just advancing. So when they go to the close up
and he gets attacked, that's the surprise.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
That is the genius of what Rennie was able to
do with that framing is to sub even if you
think something's gonna happen, rarely does things like that happen
in the close up, right, because because the expectations, we
want the shock and off from the why we almost
want to make you feel like you're stuck and you
can't move. You have to watch what's happening to you.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
So when you got to the close up, you thought, oh,
all right, this is we're safe, and then he goes
mid mid like but it's the whole speech is basically
towards the end of it, the foreshadowing of his own death. Yeah,
literally is saying all the things that's just about to
happen to him.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
It's it's a great little moment.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
And you know, is it gonna go down as the
He's Ego twenty five seventeen or some of the others.
Maybe not, but as far as one of the most
shocking moments of his career, it's definitely this. There's very
few things that are shocking about Samul Jacksca's he's usually
the bad, the tough, you know, and if his if
his death happens, it's because it's relevant for the show,

(38:04):
Like he's he gives himself up for something, right, like
when he dies, well even he says he didn't die,
but if he in Revenge of the Sith, when he
goes out the window, we're not too surprised for that
because we know that Vader's got to make the turn.
So it's not like we're like he's just like, oh,
you know, why don't you go get some cookies.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
And now we'll move the story along. So he has
to go. You know, I'm just gonna go over here
for a little bit, you know, like, yeah, maybe.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
His Jurassic This is like a Jurassic Park moment for him.
But he was a subsidiary character, so he was already
on the checkerboard for dying, right.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
We already knew, like, yeah, you're not making it for
the end, so.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, exactly, and even to romance in the opening of
those and he was a nobody in this film.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
You don't expect Samuel Jackson.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Not to make it to at least the last third
of the film, not to go the mid sentence.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Mid film in the pivot like raw, raw, We're all
gonna shark with it. So it's like the sharks, like no,
I'm freaking you.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
We hate some people on those We we just you know,
like we hate some people on those things. And I
like that he's monologuing and he's getting like so into
his monologue that he completely forgets that he's standing near
open water, like he's he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna
rally everybody, but while doing it, I'm gonna put myself
in brave danger.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
And just wound him.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah they did, Yeah, but that'd be funny. Capital crimes,
like we murdered two people that avalanche, and we didn't
really like it.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
We think we think they ate them.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
We didn't agree with them.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Russell was a wind to go for this film.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah, he's definitely a cannibal in this movie. But yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I wish they would have cut to maybe Skoggins or
Carter just going hey, screwed over, like because I say, like.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Don't stunt a quest to the Yeah, and I'm just
gonna suggestion.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
I'm gonna monologue and stand by the most convenient spot
to be eaten. And I love that so much.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I love the Carter played by Thomas jane Is.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
We always had like the nice, that sexy, dangerous guy,
you know.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
What I mean. He's a wrangler, Like, why do we
have a shark wrangler? What's he wrangling?

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Like?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Is this a movie set like a snake rang?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Sure, when they're doing the experiment to kind of passionate
like that, come on, it sucking.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
It's sucky, baby, It's okay.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
He's just being played by them the entire time. He's
not a great shark wrangler because he darts that gigantic shark,
the Gen two, and it somehow he gets it onto
that platform. He didn't shoot it underneath that platform. This
is like a two ton like you know water you
can you know, it's not as heavy. But the shark

(40:41):
definitely did a little bit of swimming when he was
maneuvering it onto the thing, like he.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Helped him out.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, so he's like, yeah, I can wrangle a two
tons shark on a platform. The sharks is doing like
little little swims opening up one eye. So he's not
like the best shark wrangler. But as Jay said, we
read a review once I called him a bionic stud muffin,
and like that's how Carter Blake has explained. So that's
been his nickname now is bionic stub.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
He had Rapperport, he's the brains with the crew.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
What do you stand love Michael Rabbitport. But I saw
the scene.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
He's just like like this is your scientist guy, Like
he's the engine.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Like this we swim to second two feet per second,
shark swing to do the math.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
It's like this figures are wrong.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, yeah, I like the Revenys, Like, look, I had
three minutes to prepro this thing. He was walking by
the street with a corfe.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I said, Rappaport, come on, yeah, sure it makes sense, Jay,
don't we have a theory though, where Susan doesn't want
a lot of people asking questions, so he brings in
Jim and his fiance is Janice, and she, you know,
she's actually pregnant in this movie, and so she's kind
of the girlfriend he kind of he you know, they

(41:53):
don't keep her informed. Carter Blake is a criminal who's
just really into her, and she doesn't really give much back,
and so he's just kind of happy to have a job.
Preacher said he lived a rough life, so he's probably
happy to have this gig, like a nice gig away
from everything you have. Tower, she's just in the tower.
She didn't care. All the other extras are there, but
who knows what they're doing. So it's like she's hired

(42:14):
not the best. So they got Scoggins, and like Scoggins
has exactly so like she brought in people who weren't
really gonna ask questions and Scoggins isn't asking any questions
and this.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Answer all the answers he tell it.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
He'll tell you yeah, and so it's like, yeah, oh,
that's a really great way to hide information.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Just hire know it alls and they'll never look into
something because they feel like they know it.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
All until he's until he's scared. And I love that.
Thomas Jane the Criminal Wranglers like, I'm gonna do math
with this guy right this time, gonna get him back.
And I tried to get him off his feet. Hey
how much pressure can and he's like, I'm back in
the games, Like I'm back.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I'm figuring no one would know he's their.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Wikipedia, right, Like he's their Wikipedia Wikipedia. It's like Skaggins,
He'll he'll know.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Wait, that's some good leadership skills. We never talked about
that Jay where he asked him about the math to
get him from not freaking out.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
It's just all of a sudden, He's like, it takes
just rund of pressure and this I don't want to
be here.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
So it's like, so what if what if it had
been Janice who was like, not gonna move? How would
how would Carter have like got Janis round.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
There the nineties? Stay here, there's no strong fem this
broad expendable. She's staying I've read the Jenis, Can you
give me a tour of this place? And she's like, okay,
over here, can you explain.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
To me the history of the layout with this facility exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Okay, so dating back to nineteen forty when they built
the submarine tank like eight minutes later. Yeah, then she's
by herself. They're all gone, she said.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
She shows up and he's employee the whole time.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
She like turns around, like she starts lecturing so much.
A shark eats her because she forgets what she's talking about.
Like she stands by the water, and Shark's like, this
is too easy. Let's get them all monologue in so
they can go stand by open water. But you know
what's nice too is when when Russell's eating, they're pretty
messed up about it, like the you know in some

(44:19):
like in some movies, characters just drastically underreact to things.
And here they're balling up and they're crying and there's
like absolute fear, like uh, you know, Rapaport at least
he's freaking out. So it's kind of nice that, you know,
he's they show that emotion down there.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
That's another part I like about this scene. He almost
has the oh god, what's his name?

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Bill pack the reaction in when they're into romance and
he's in.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
And the someone come and take me a work. He
almost says this Elliott moment. Uh in that moment when
he sees Sam go bye bye. Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
We definitively see that Russell has been killed like other
people at this point, you could like Jim. Jim might
have survived. He had the breath up broads window, but
he might still be alive in there.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
We saw the tower explode, but Brenda might have got
We've seen Russell get ripped in pieces by us. He's
not just been drug like slammed and dragged under the
water like cut do underwater. Oh and other sharks come
along and that gets his said, so you can you
can kill Sam Jackson.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
How amazing would it be if test audience has got
pissed and at the end of the film he crawls
up with like two lets, you know, his legs, missing
arms missing.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Lots of slow crying. His head floats up, Get me
out of here. He's like those motherfucker Jacks. Is that
you not just your head? Het me water. He's always
losing limbs too.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Jassic Parking one man went into the water ahead and
came out.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
He likes getting killed by animals too. He got smashed
by Kong. He's been killed by raptors. He's been eaten by.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
He survived the snakes.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah, he did survive.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
The snakes didn't get him, but.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Taylor Kitsch didn't. And he's in the Covenant, which will
be directed by Show film the remake. Sorry, I just
love that idea so much. But no, I mean, listen,
I want to.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
What the head is is Fluke? In Fluke, Sam Jackson
is shot to death as a dog. The voice he
comes back reinconnated as a squirrel. The heck is Fluke.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
That's that's the It's like a puppy. But the big
ears on the poster are correct.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Thomas P. Johnson.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
So Sam Jackson's character dies and is reincarnated as a dog,
who then dies and is reinclanated as a squirrel.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
M okay, sure again, Okaine cocaine.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, I wish I'd pitched one of those, like Mark,
Like what you directed one movie?

Speaker 3 (47:23):
You wrote one movie, Mark, what was it? And it's like,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Tom Hanks peas into a fountain, he gets hit by
lightning and then he becomes like, yeah, the head and
then he just becomes a fountain and then he falls
on the.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Spouts wise all the time you don't realize it.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Sally Field falls in love with him, and then the
only thing there's like a skip where she skinny dips
in in it at a point and you're like, oh,
man and.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
His magical waters look like her. They have a child,
and his water shoots up in the air.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
There's just like an insert shot of a water thing
bursting into the air. And then he and then like
all sudden, he pops back into Tom Hanks and she's.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Like enough people need to throw coins in and make
wishes and needs to make the wishes.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, And then when he becomes Tom Hanks, Sally's like,
I like the fountain better. And then she leaves him
and that's the end of the movie. And then he
gets arrested for trying to pee in it again, and
that's the end of it.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
There it is, and the whole time, the whole thing
has been he's a drunk who's been in he's in detox,
in prison because.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
He was being in in the fountain in the mall
those kids are out and he thought he was this
glorious birth in the day. It's like a Wizard of Oz.
He's had this dream that all the people they've seen
her in this movie with him, and when he wakes up,
he's no longer in Cans.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Or in Oz, He's back in can. He's like, I'm
in prison. Yes, And it's just a dark twist at
the end. It's really like PG and it just messes
everybody up. And uh, it would be better than Larry Crown,
which I can show. Yeah, I can admit to that.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
But yeah, fountain Head, the fountain there it is the
wait no, because yeah, the fountain.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I like that fountain. Let's do it. He gets a
Golden Globe nomination.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Sure, I think we I think we did it. I've
come up with like four good movies today.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I think Golden Globe is anyone get those those?

Speaker 5 (49:26):
It's almost like a fortune Cookie's Like it's almost like
the Oscars talk to the press and like, look, we're
not going to nominate this person, and they probably should be,
So why don't.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
You nominate him in You're a little thing you do there?
It's really cute and then we'll everyone feel good at
least get nominated. You nominate this comedy because we never
nominate comedies.

Speaker 5 (49:43):
Mark the Martian, it's a great comedy.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
You'll love it.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
What do you think? What do you think is faster
water or ice?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Apparently by SAMUELA. Jackson, ice because it's had a taste
for killing. I guess it's a cold line to say,
too right, Yeah, he's killed.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
It's like hild the world once and tastes for murder. Ice.
The fastest ice or snow powder avalanche has been clocked
about three hundred kilometers an hour, which is two hundred plus.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Wow. But the American stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Very fast, very fast, and like the fastest flash flood
is like nine feet per second, which works up being
ten kilometers an hour, so way way slower than an
ice avalanche. But Russell wasn't specific. He just said water
pressure washers come out at two hundred and forty three
miles an hour, which is three So that's faster than nice.

(50:38):
That's fast water is water can be faster than ice.
He's wrongs is.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
What is he saying that the nature of the two
He doesn't specify. He does well.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
He says nature doesn't hold a candle to man like
man is factored into this whole, the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Yeah, then nature says, hold our bear were pulling in
the water, and then we realize that nature worse at
that moment because he's on dry land thinking I'm safe,
and that shark said you are in the exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I was trying to find that, what's the world record
for the fastest says thrown an ice cube? But I
couldn't find, like the speed of the world record for
the most number of ice cubes moved by mouth in
one Minute's that's a record out there, which is one
with fifty four ounces of ice cubes one and a
half kilograms was moved by Andre Ortolv in Germany in

(51:33):
twenty seventeen. That's a record. So well, moved a kilogram
on a half of ice cubes by mouth in a
minute for reasons unknown. I don't have parties.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, is what record has never been broken? I'm gonna
break that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
How much being done in the Guinness Booger records.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
There's those random things. It's like, well and they have
the same ices.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
It's like what, Yeah, it's silly.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
I've ate up my mind. I want the world record
for most cocaine snorted in the girl. Guinness World Records.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
You don't you.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Still have the record after you've perished, is the problem?
You'd get it, but you wouldn't survive.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Yeah, that's true. They do a lot of it there.
The scene rules by the way, y'all.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
I know we've gone all over the place, but you
know what, all right, I have a question for you too, Scott.
When people say this movie is so bad it's good,
does that annoy you? Do you think this movie is
so bad it's good, or do you think it's so
good it's good.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
That's a great question.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
I think a person who says it's so bad it's
good understands the film they're going to see.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Yeah, I am tired. I sound like a snap.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
I'm tired of the A twenty four vibe stuff that
we hear all the time, of the Criterion College stuff.
I'm so tired of everyone thinking a movie has got
to be Oscar worthy or it's doug Some movies are
not trying for a statute. They're trying to make you
enjoy a time in the theater. Life sucks ass currently
right now, especially sometimes it's just nice to sit in

(53:07):
the theater and watch ridiculous things happen in front of
you and enjoy it. Right, But we play video games.
The stuff you can do in video games that was
in the military. I watched my son doing no Scope
three six. I'm like, that's that's physically impossible to do.
Like the he jumping off of building, spinning around him,
pulling a bullet that hits you in the head. I'm

(53:27):
literally fanos at this point.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, do that right.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
But we enjoy that stuff. It gives us a little
bit of athotic release. We know that we're not hurting
anybody in real life.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
So is Deep Blue Sea going to go down in
the annals of history of like one of the greatest
films next to Jaws.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
No, but that doesn't have to There are great films
out there that, as you said, are so bad. They're
good because there's a tongue in cheekness about them. There
is an element of exploitation leaning into B movie stuff
that like a machete or machete kills.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
That movie is not trying to be the next you know,
Citizen Kane. It is.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
You can enjoy symstance.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
I mean that's offsically like the helicopter pulse. It's amazing,
Like it's fun, Like you enjoy that kind of stuff.
It's a fun experience. I think the theater is supposed
to be entertaining and fun. Yes, we do want to
have films that move us and that are seen as
these classics and you know, you know they they change
the movement of cinema. But at the same time, we

(54:34):
just want to go see some fun stuff to like
Porky's Revenge and or a movie that I thaoroughly love
a hot rod, like movies that are irrelevant but are
still so much fun to sit and watch, Like I
can't stand the people whose asshole is so tight and
they smoke little cigarettes and wear berets and all they
think about is it's got to be this avant garde movie.
My saying to them is you, because you don't know movies,

(54:57):
you have to be able to enjoy a movie like
Deep Lucy and know what you're getting into. It's a
movie about biologically enhanced sharks. When did you think they
were going for Jaws? At what point in the trailer
did you go, I think they're trying to replicate Jaws.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
They're having fun, like come on, And also comparing it
to Jaws or Jurassic Park. Nothing nothing of those movies,
nothing like, So it's like it's not as good as
Jurassic Park.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Well, nothing is so this movie. He wasn't trying to
didn't when the trailer.

Speaker 8 (55:25):
Go the movie that is real rival Jurassic Park, the
Jurassic Park of the Sea, Like it's like arm again,
like yeah, we know the deep oil drillers should not
be being said to do this thing, but.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
You know what, it's not real. Let's enjoy it. Let's
have some fun. See what happens.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
It's only when when Vin Diesel does the next every
well fast movie and he's like, this film is gonna
win an Oscar, He's like, no, no, Vin.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
That's the problem, Vin Diesel. He actually thinks he's making
some kind of cinematic art.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
After I'm like, Vin, these things are dogged, but at
least lean into it, like don't give me this thing,
like you can pull something like he thinks the mechanics
in his films are real, and you're like, that's not
how physics works. Been I'm sorry, buddy, but that's that's
that's not how it works. If he was more like Renn,
he was like, look, I know, this isn't how things work.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Bloo, We're fun.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
We're gonna eat Samuel Jackson in the middle of the water.
He's gonna he's.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Gonna jump out of the bowl like an angry goldfish
and pull him into the bowl with him and we're
gonna eat him.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
And you're like, yeah, that's a fun Tuesday afternoon in
the summer.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
And they made so many smart you know what I
don't like too is just as far as filmmaking is concerned,
they made so many smart decisions. So they went to
the tank. They didn't shoot an open water. They learned
from water World, they learned from Cutthroat Island. They went,
they went to the tanks already built like hard rain.
They had to build tanks and it was a nightmare
this one.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
They're like, we have tanks.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Tanks are built like they built sets and then they submerged,
like submerged them. They got Walt Kanti to like the
free Willie guy, and Anaconda to build gorgeous sharks. They
got like a really interesting cast. If you think about it.
At the time, Thomas Jane was like the Paul Thomas
Anderson guy. Like they weren't Yeah, you know, selling Scars
Guard was like doing Bergman, Like there was like a
lot of there's a lot of interesting characters being brought

(57:04):
into this and then there's a kitchen fight. There's Llo
cool j surviving until the end and he can't die
in horror movies, by the way, uh the parrot gets eaten.
Like there's Jim's death, which is really long and brutal.
Like there's so many smart decisions made that like they
it looks gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
And so people like it's so bad.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
It's good, But then you think about everything that went
into it, and this is a smartly made production. So
it's kind of I don't know, it just bothers me
that this this movie has And I've said this one
hundred times. Everyone's heard me say that, but you know
you're a new guest, and you know, I get riled
up when talking to it.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
I get it because just a lack of film knowledge, right,
or even film appreciation.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah, you know, you know what's funny you go back
like when people say they liked like when people talk
about elevated horror. Nowadays, they don't really understand horror genre
because like if you go back to the thirties and
the people who made it, there's so many mess like
so many messages in those movies. And you look at
Dawn of the Dead, Night of Living Dead. Horror has
been used as like a trojan horse for years, so
calling it elevated now is just a lack of that.
And I think, you know, you look at films of

(58:05):
the thirties, forties, fifties, there's just a lot of musicals.
There's a lot of like, hey, just go enjoy it.
There's a lot of silly Elvis movies. Like so, I mean,
movies have always been kind of silly and meant to
entertain in a business, and like so when you're talking
about what movies should be, it's like, no, like they've
always just meant to entertain.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
I don't know. Now, you're right, it's an entertainment purpose.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's one of the few forms
that have continued to last as long as it has.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I mean, music has kind of gone down. TV's had
its ups and downs, and like, yeah, now streaming is
trying to kill film, but thankfully, thankfully still some people
out there like Tom Cruise and people who are who
are like, no, we're going to put this thing in
the theater.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
And they're also making like one F one is just
like modern day really to me driven days of thunder. Yeah,
you know, but at the same time, it looks great encapsulated.
I was just thrilled by watching it Top Gun Maverick.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
That was that amazing.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
You know, like there are still films that need to
be seen in the theater, and there's a lot of them,
and to just sit in here.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
They're nice to rewatch.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
They still don't have that same impact like watching him
get Eaten on my seventy five min screen. It's not
the same as sitting in that theater and watching it
happen with a bunch of people too, write for the
first time, getting that that visceral reaction from everybody, like
a community experience.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
That's what movies is about.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
It's sitting in a darkon theater with other people and
experiencing something.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Together and you know, learning a story.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
And that's what I love about Who's why It's my
favorite thing in the entire world.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
And I hope they never go away.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
But Netflix and others are trying to trying to put
the death nail in them, those sons of bitches and.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
The people who are on their phone ninety percent of
the time, I want a shark to come out of
the see yeah eat one of these guys just takes
one it just takes one guy on the phone to disappear.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
In theater Theater Sharks from Rennie Harlan and Tarantino of
Goodbye They're Forces, written by Tarantino, directed by Renny harl
Theater Shark This Summer.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
The Sharks saying anywhere for some reason, we don't know what.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
He's big Ino feet like a lot of Tarantino DNA
in this, like what, what's what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Already likes feet too, though there's a lot of feet
shot in Deep Blue c so maybe they bond over
like foot foot stuff. That should the movie should be
called foot stuff, foot stuff and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
It's just people with feet with no feet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Tom Jaye, If whoever Tarantino did he, I think he
did it some ptas.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I don't think he ever turned.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah, because he's a big no no socks guy, no
shoes guy. Isn't he something that would make sense anyway? Well, Scott,
what are your what are your top full shot movies
we need to know?

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Well? Number one is obviously the Shark movie. Jows.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's pretentious to
say it's something better than Joss.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
That's that's a lie, that that's just me being like, well,
actually it's this French movie Nape exactly exactly. Number two.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
I really liked Open Water. I remember seeing that in
the theater. I like the way they presented that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Kind of like it almost felt like a found footage
type of a movie to it. It was very independent
and they played with Jermiah was a psychological shark movie
where they took the elements of what Jaws was, where
it was like where is it, where's this monster?

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
And then there was a bunch of them They're trapped
on the ocean, there's no where they can go. I
just love the fear of it. Then like they want
to be bitten at It was just it with your mind.
It was kind of like it was able to tap
into the psychological horror that Jaws gave everyone, especially I mean,
obviously John willims score made everyone themselves. You know, there
are still people who like, there's I've heard a couple
like sometimes they get nervous they hear and there in

(01:01:46):
their pool, like you know, sharks aren't in your pool,
but there are still people terrified from just that John
Williams score hearing. And then you know everyone knows. For
number three, I know she's on her lot of Heat
lately Blake Lively. But I like the Shallows. The Shallows,
I thought that was really kind of kind of a

(01:02:07):
fun one, and then the number four is deep Lucy here.
I like, I like just a lot of you know,
sayd thing about the shark genre. It's not a great
other movies like there's I got know, Sharknado's fun in
this new but as far as them really figuring out
their audience and really hitting the nail on the head,
that's kind of a genre that's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Really hit or miss.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
It's just in my opinion, like you either nail it
and you can get it, or you just as like
it's like a lot of a lot of horror movies,
like they're just we've got to kill her with the
mask and he's just gonna do his thing, or she's
gonna do her thing, and you're kind of like, well,
there's no real point to what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
You're just copying.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
I feel that what happens in a lot of the
other shark films that we've gotten over the course of
five decades now it since Jaws scared everybody fifty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
The great thing about theatrical really shark films is there's
not that many of them. So when there's a top
ten list and yours is reasonably good, it'll be on
every list. So it keeps your name and the whenever
a new shark movie comes out, I was like, top
ten shark movies, and then you just keep Deep Bluecy.
It keeps getting mentioned because of it's gonna be in
the top ten. If you do a top ten shark
list and Deep Blue Cy isn't on it, you're you're
pushing it a little bit. And then best surprise deaths

(01:03:08):
in film if you don't put Sam Jackson's death. So
it's kept it relevant through the years for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
And it's got a lot of shark kills, right, like
Johnston's having shark kills like even and why there's the
two people they get killed and then the shallows. You know,
it's a battle between Blake Lively and the shark.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
And there's a few surfers who get taken out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Yeah, but not many those guys. There's always the guy
who you know is like, oh, you're gonna be dead soon.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I did the Math and Deep Blue CJ is the
most deep shark movie ever. It's because there's like twenty
five to twenty seven minutes of sharks and like a
lot of kills and there's a lot there's not that
much time between shark kills, and like it's the most shark.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Movie ever made. And I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Renning was like, I got good looking sharks, I'm gonna
make an awesome movie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
And I dig it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
So that's got your first guest to put open Water
on it on their top four. WHOA really no one's yeah. Uh.
My theory is it's a film that's no fun.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
There's nothing fun about it. It is. It makes you go,
why would I ever want to go out into the ocean?
This is horrible? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's just like it
really is. You're sitting there watching people just literally wait
to die and they know it too, like they know
it and well that sucks. It's like, well, if there's

(01:04:26):
no need for me to sail across the ocean for anything,
I'll take a plane. I'd rather die quick in a crash.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Then we're stuck in the ocean waiting to be eaten
alive by sharks as a buffet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
It's my least favorite type of shop film. It's just
we're stuck in the water.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Yeah, it's the Shark horror film.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Yeah, well, anything else to cover on this?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
I mean, I love Scoggan's yelling at Susan that she's
not as boss anymore work for you. It's one of
the Skullgins moments that just kind of lives in my
head to constantly him just going like his arms up
just yet in a face.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Oh yeah, I love that part. Yeah, he brings it.
It's murky. We could swim out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
It's pretty clear from anyway. And the edge of the
rim of the pool is it like is that broken?
Is it supposed to be that shape where it's like
not quite a circle with there's some bits jutting out
corners here and there.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
It start to land in production terms, it's gonna work
for the c G.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I we need, we need doesn't look very broken, but
it looks like a weird enough shape that it wouldn't
have been designed that way. So I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know. It doesn't really matter. He
says he's going to steal off the pool. How was
he going to do it? I want to know his
plan for sealing off that pool? What was with what?
And like how explain develop your planters.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Stuff down to move their door. He was just a
bunch of suit, a bunch of gage. We're just gonna
float around in the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
It's it's a case right at katap his face. But
that's what I had. That's good. Uh, Well, thank you
for joining. Thank you so much for having the film. Well,
if you got the plug, where can the listeners find you?

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
The listeners can find me on my Church of Tarantino
podcast all the socials except X and that is the
Church of QT pod.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I also do a.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
Action centered podcast called Men of Action that I do
with my co host Steve Smith, and we also.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Cover Bruce Willis's direct to DVD movies.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
We've done doing forty of them. We're right our thirtieth
right now. It's called Dropping Bruce. That has been a slog.
What it has made me appreciate films more.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
It's it's a tough one.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
It's it's thirty third, we're thirty in and we got
tend to go so we can see the light.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
But it's it's like being punched in the face or
the junk every other it's a lot of money laundering
going on in those things.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
Thank you, We have our thing is we think one
of them is in some kind of sex trade they
were doing for a while, right, you know it's just
after why You're kind of like this budget is fifteen
to ten million dollars and they made two dollars, Like,
but they still keep getting more, Like how are these
guys making these kind of movies.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
All the time? Like how did this happens? Bruce? Is there?

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Like Uva Bowl found a way to make movies because
of tournament German taxi bowls, franchise pictures. They found a
way to inflate budgets to rip off German companies. So
I wonder if they're just ripping off German companies andated budgets.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Yeah, it's insane, like the amount of money that's being
spent to the mount of minds in the return, but
yet they keep making them. They made forty of these things,
You're like, twenty six over the end of his career.
His last twenty six movies were just these, So twenty
six in a row of non money making movies, and
yet they kept getting made. He did one with Thomas
Jane where Thomas Jane has long hair. Correct, he did

(01:07:57):
a couple He's done at least two that we've gone through. Thomas,
he does what it's called advice. I think it's vices.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
It's kind of this really bad West World remake, really bad.
It's kind of like a West World like there's this
rich people go to, like this hotel and all the
people there are robots kind of thing, and it's just
then the roll up becomes sentient, you know, I mean,
but a really bad one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I was recently on a a front of the show
movie Rope's doing die Hard A good day to die
Hard five minutes at a time at the moment, So
the recently on talking about the first fifteen minutes of that,
and that was not a fun experience to watch again. No,
that is never again.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
The die Hard commercials that they had here in America
during the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. Riss
is a better version of John McLean than he was
in that movie. And I will stand on business for
that because he is much better. It's a thirty second commercial,
but he is a more believable.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
John McLean in the Diehard Battery commercials than he is
in that final film when they go to Russia, like
you should have just job. It's so bad. Yeah, actually,
there's a couple of the movies we've seen that are
better than that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Wow, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
That's I know it's not saying much, but are a
couple You're still to watch them. We've done all the happy,
done all the heavy lifting for you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
You don't have to that. You don't have to exactly,
it's basically what it is. Yeah, So so what was that?

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
Sorry, that's dropping a bruce And you can cut this
out if you don't want to put this in. But
you gentlemen, don't know this yet, but you're kind of
the reason something is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Well, the reason I figured it out.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
But I am actually going to be flown out a
week from this Friday to interview Tarantino.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
He has reached out to me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
What Bill's incrediblit the affair, and then I'm interviewing him
at the Chateau mo Month on the twenty sixth, the
exact day of the release of Once More Time on Hiway.
So the only reason I knew about it is you
guys had sent me some stuff on the thirtieth of
June and I was responding back to you Jay, and
I saw a little request in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
My DMS, and I thought, okay, this is one of two.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
Things porn, some kind of porn link some girl length
and seventy fifty three six, you know, some kind of like,
oh well, this is fun. You want to talk to
me or someone who's like, I can boost your podcast, and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
I'm like, okay, delete.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
It was a single person and I saw the name.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
I thought hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
So I read it and they said, you know, this
is Tarantino's publicist.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
I'm trying to get a hold I'd like to get
a hold of you. Find a way this.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Is this is this is good something. So I looked
up her name to make sure and I was like
m and it was good. And so then we looked
at a profile Kevin McCarthy. I'm sure you know who
is Mark Kevin McCarthy, Sean O'Connell, fifty other.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Kids name, other guy's name.

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
They were on the Real Blend Cinema podcast when Sean
was still at a Real Cinema Blend and they had
this podcast together, three of them, and they had interviewed
Tarantino four times and each time they interview him it
got better, Like he had him off to the Beverly
for the first time in a hotel New York. The
third time they did on the stage at the New Beverly,
and then the fourth time they interviewed him in his

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screening room in his home. So their trajy actor was
like crazy. So when I saw his name as a follower,
I thought, Okay, she's real, sent out the email to her.
She called within like three minutes, and then it'll be
on an episode coming out the little conversation, but basically
she reached out said he'd heard of the podcast, which
I still sitting here in front of you cannot believe

(01:11:24):
that's the thing that he actually knows about this podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Given that he's not on social media, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
I was like okay, And then she's like, he would
like to fly you out to La so you can
see kill Bill the whole blood Affair at the Vista,
which is running for like ten days coming up, and
then interview him, and I was like you forkidding me,
Like this is insane. So until I'm sitting down in
front of him and it's happening, I know I'm going
to califun I got my tickets in this, so I'm
gonna see the movie. I will I will believe the

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interview when he actually is in the room and it's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
So it's a you know, I do a series called
the Anglarious.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Blue Balls on my show, which talks about all his
anounced projects he's never come true. So it's either going
to be an actual interview episode.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Or the biggest teary eyed content. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
Either way it will be man, that poor guy got
go for or oh my god, he actually got him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
So yeah, that's that's the thing that's coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Okay, actually, thank you gentlemen. The Covenant I will pitch it,
so listen, what do you think? Rennie Harlan's The Covenant
your tenth movie you remake? What do you think? Just
go do it? Yeah, and five minutes you give five
minutes of pre bro, that's gotta do it. Read tangle
like my daughter a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
She'll be like dad ice cream, yes, yes, so just
be like Quentin the Covenant.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Yes, yes, just do that. Yeah, it's just that only.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
And I only said I'd never say no to her
because I'm like, okay, you know us, Yeah he goes yes,
yes he's not that George. You're looking for a packet, Yes,
I'm like cover, just hand it. So yeah, please, you know, yeah,
I see what I could do. I got I'll just

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print out the script. We don't even need to write one,
just hand it to them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
First question, so I understand you do, I'll praise. Is that?
So I understand you're redoing The Covenant, your last movie
in exactly right? Yes, yes, I don't want to you know,
I know this is probably the first question. But what
what's what we do? What are your thoughts about Alien Covenant?
And then just get in there like speaking of Covenant.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
Exactly right, I understand I really scheduled till you shut
up and make a movie like he did Covenant.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Speaking of Covenant, I just have real weird way circle
that in and put.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
It Quinn's like next, you know, he just walks up
and gets out like the Misfits. Now, just so you know,
the the latest batch of pitches I sent to a publication.
The note I got back, this is insane and insane
was an all caps that's yeah, that's what I got
reaction most when people read my pictures. One time, I

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send some of the guys like this was quite a journey,
like reading through these and sudden no no to all
of them. But uh, I took them on a journey,
so that was good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
I don't know, they don't know, they're these publications, don't
what they're doing. They just want the simple it once
and no one wants to read that. Really, yeah, no
one wants to sit there and read your latest Misdoubt
Fired twenty ninth anniversary. Did you know that the whipped
cream was not really like had dietary restrictions like, but
the other stuff is you want to hear. Someone needs
to know this. That was actually cocaine inside. That's what

(01:14:39):
we want to hear. And that's why she went on
this mental journey. Someone needs to post my Hereditary as
a heist movie. I need this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I want to sell that eventually because they spend decades
trying to get money from a rich demon.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
Oh yeah, all the pictures Michael Man, hold my beer.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
For your heat bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
It's like screwge McDuck. But uh, you know the demon
sitting on cash. They're not trying to get like the
hell god of death and violence and like sado masochism.
They're like, we want the rich one who gives us cash.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
And they did it. They did it, all right, we
gotta get you out here. Well, thank you. I much appreciated.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Hey, thank thank you joining us listeners. You can find
everything Mark Desiver Movies, Films a flicks dot com, this
film dot com. Listeners can follow this podcast Olliver social
media at Deep Lucy email depot at gmail dot com.
Next week and looking at the unofficial fifth Jaws film
Cruel Jewels with our friend Kevin Kulps to come back
next week for that Banana's film that's a remake of

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for Jewels Films and the last show with dialogue from
Jurassic Park and the film score from Star Wars. All
real things that happen in that nuts film. A great
commination we had with Kevin there. So that will do
it for Deep c one, Chapter eighteen dive to thank
you once again to our wonderful guest, the Reverend Scott k.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Thank you gentlemen there, Scott, real pleasure. Well so are you?
I followed you podcast for a long time. Oh nice, Yes,
I

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Have been Jake Lower and I'm our Coffer and we'll
deep blue se you next week