Episode 242 (Hot Dumdums in Space)

Jay and Mark are joined by DeVaughn Taylor (@_daddydisco on Instagram) to discuss "Elevator Shaft," the 19th chapter of Deep Blue Sea. in this episode, they also talk about elevator horror, suspicious walking, and The Covenant (2006). Enjoy!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the Podcast. I
am Mark, Go Go Go, Go, Go half Mere, Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Am Jay Falling Flaming Debris, Cluet, Welcome you to DeepC
the Podcast. On this show, we've been to the entire
Deep Blue Sea turgy scene by scene. We're doing it
again with all new guests and this week is Deeply
See one, chapter nineteen. What happens in DeepC one, Chapter nineteen.
Let's have a listen. In the wet entry room, carteron
Scoggins turn the handle to the maintenance shaft. Channis and

(00:42):
Susan stand close by.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
The moment of truth again.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
The door opens. There's a moment of silence, the rush
of air and water RUPs from the pool.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Vine Go go go, move move.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
They hurry through the door. Janee first and Susan, Scoggins
and Carter. Janie and Susan begin climbing the ladder. Once

(01:26):
Carter and Scoggin struggle to close the.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Door, m H.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Scoggin's surfaces for air and flails in the water. Carter
finishes closing the door and helps get Scoggins the safety
of the ladder.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
As they climb Flaming debris falls from the fiery mass
above them.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's burning.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
The elevators blocking the top. But if we make it
to level one, we can take the stairs.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Up outside aquatica a shark swims through the facility into

(02:42):
the wet entry room and bashing into the doorway to
the maintenance sharks.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Let's get the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Go, go go.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
They climb faster. A Carta hangs back to that Skulgin's past. Wait,
what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
If the sharks break through that door, water's going to
bring them right to us.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Now, Level two is only partially flooded.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
If I can get that access door open, the water
will run off there buy us some time.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Skulgins climbs past him.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
The big, real big what's that the size of your
brass balls? Be careful?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
So that was chapter nineteen. We need a guest help
us talk about it. It's got a first time guest.
We've had his his co host on a couple of
times that it's recently for dangerous animals. We on for
that from Tainted Love Podcast and the Specter Cinema Club
is Devon. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Hello, Hello Devon, Bring me some sushi. Taylor here and
very excited to dive in to deep blue sea as
you guys have many a times now. I've always been
I'm always fascinated by podcasts that you know, spend entire
podcast on one movie. I think that's really fun. And
this is gonna be the most random one to have

(04:04):
one on. So I love that you guys have not
only done it already, but you now are in the
second ring.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
So like I wonder, like you know how much.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
You you know, get illuminated on the second time around.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
No, we really do d Like like we learned about
Carter's like leading techniques last episode. There's a lot to
look at. Like I counted how many times doors are
opened in this like we just know every frame, it's all.
This film actually ranked them all, So there's a great
door open this one. Like I ranked let's see how

(04:38):
many total were there forty something? Yeah, I ranked twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think there were twenty eight when you first ranked it.
But then we did find some more going through.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
So I ranked all the door opening scenes and uh,
let's see, you know, No, I got the thirty nine,
So that's what I did. So I mean, but you
know what, though, like this movie, I worked in a
theater when this came out ninety nine, and like, I
think it helped me actually get my first right paid
writing jobs, like in twenty seventeen, and like it just
hasn't gotten old, and it's it's like people, you know

(05:06):
what I like about it. It's really good, but people
say it's so bad. It's good so we have something
to sit on there and it's just fun. Like Runnie
Harlan's a maniac, so yeah I could.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
He is a maniac. I love Ruddy Harlan.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm your favorite Runnies.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
I'm a oh, I'm a big big I mean obviously
love Along, Kiss good Night is obviously fantastic, but the
one that I go.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
To bat for.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
I have articles out there, I have various podcast episodes.
I'm a The Covenant and Defender. I have been here
for The Covenant ever since it came out, Like that
has been one of my just all time favorite just
like ridiculous movies. It is, it's so fun and yeah,

(05:49):
I wrote it. I wrote a whole editorial about how
they set out to make a super straight movie and
that made it extra gay, like how it had like
this weird opposite effect that they were trying to make
this like super cool masculine witch movie. And then it's
like no, no, you made the gayest which movie you
can make possible?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
It's so funny.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
We're gonna go back. We've don't know whatever, any films
are ready, but I reckon we'll probably go back and
cover them all again. And your name is going right
on the spreadsheet next to.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Them, please please. And what a cast too, like crazy cast?

Speaker 1 (06:24):
And I just love with Rennie too. I think I
think we talked about this, like he doesn't get much
prep time, like hey man, just go go make this
movie in the winter in Canada, and like you got,
you got like thirty five days, go do it. And
then he comes out with the Covenant and it makes
me really happy. And the cast scene's sick, like just
a great cast. I have a lot of fun with

(06:45):
that movie. Actually a lot of smoke, a lot of
smoke work, and.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
That is very smoky. It's in the blue era, so
I mean it is literally such a gray and blue film.
I mean it is a Sebastian Stan bisexual menace, just
chewing the scenery up.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
It is such a what a film.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Renny. When he does things, he does it right, like
I think he Yeah, he blows things up, he kills
people really hard, just goes for us. I love it.
Have you seen any New Strangers movies or are you
ever watch any like the new one?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Oh yeah, I forgot that those are him man.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
I went saw Chapter one obviously, and like that was
at the bottom of my list from last year. Like,
I mean that movie is horrendous. I love you, Rennie,
but oh my god, because I had I've never been
big on The Strangers like the original one. I'm not
even like super big on I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's fine.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
But so whenever you know, he heard he got his
own trilogy, I was like, Okay, this could be something.
And it is not off to a great start so far,
but they had to do I guess the homage kind
of reboot esque one.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
So it's out of the way, so I mean it
can only go up from here.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
Hopefully Chapter two and three are decent and are kind
of their own thing, because yeah, Chapter one cheeks straight cheeks.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And I mean they gave him fifty days to shoot
three films in Latvia, and they gave him about three
weeks of prep, So like, Rennie's why you got fifty
days go shoot three. So I'm hoping the second one
opens like this, all the strangers blow up, probably the
biggest explosion you've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
One explosion of those three he separates, but what are
we talking?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, explosion explosions push them into an area where they explode.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, so four explosions. Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, So they all get pushed and then they exploded,
and then it's just kind of like a completely different
movie after, like a bear attacks er. It's like a
bear attack film. Just Rennie's like I had to make
one and now I can just go pull Rennie.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Well, I guess I guess he needed the cachet because
I mean, I guess he has deep.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Water also on post production.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
He's back in the Disaster Realm, so I'm excited to
see how that turns out.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
He's doing another one with with killer whales orcas too,
Like it's like yeah, he's like, I'm going underwater to
shoot them. It's gonna be the most in depth film
I've ever made. I'm like, let's bless you, Rennie.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like we know how like Gimo del Torrea would have
twenty films that he's like supposed to be making, and
he'll make like three of them. It's like Rennie does
that but then makes them all. He doesn't seem to
be he can like pick. He's like they will get
into a slate, and he does like three a year.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
A couple of months ago. Came over looking as IMDb
and we're like, three came out and we can watch them.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Refuge exists somewhere. We haven't seen it yet, but it
was released.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
He made a Norwegian film that we can't find. They
filmed during the pandemic. That's one we got to. It's
a third film.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
In a ranchise like Singles Cruise or something.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Singles Reunion, Reunion three, Singles Cruise.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I can't find it out there somewhere. We keep
on appealing to people from Finland to find this film
and let us know.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yes, send us a copy please, But what's what's your
history with this movie? Is it? And also I have
a question I was looking through your your cinema specter
list of is this a techno thriller? Would you call
this a techno thriller?

Speaker 4 (10:09):
This movie no, I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I mean it does have its sci fi routes, but
the so like as we've been discussing through techno horror
month is like the fear and the uh you know,
antagonistic forces coming from the technology itself. I mean, yes,
these are mutated sharks, but they are still living. They
are not so this is still in the uh you know,

(10:35):
sci fi mutated creature's camp, which is a different branch
of sci fi horror. But I wouldn't call this in
the tech horror realm.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
What do you think a shark film slash tech horror
film would look like?

Speaker 5 (10:48):
I mean to I mean, I guess, to quote Doctor Evil,
sharks with frickin lasers on their head, I suppose. I mean,
I'm I'm sure there's a cyborg shark in the asylum
of film model graphy somewhere. Yeah, so you know something. Yeah,
So I'd assume it'd be something like that, Like oh ooh,

(11:08):
what if like some might because like obviously these always
start off very altruistic. What if there was like somebody
that's like, oh, I'm trying to make prosthetic fins for sharks,
and then they do, but then the sharks use those
prosthetic fins as weapons and go on a on a
slasher spree.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
They get happy.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Of course, of course, but they're heavy.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
I guess, uh.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
I mean you'd have to be only partially you know,
you know, you couldn't be like a whole metal skeleton
for a shark. I think it would have to only
be like augmented maybe and then could still be able
to swim.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well that it would be like Tusk meets that VHS
segment where that doctor turns people into robots.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, kind of there, it is something like that. Hey,
I wouldn't I wouldn't put it past the lead scientists
in this one, because this gal man she sucks. She
sucks so hard. Oh my god, doctor, doctor McAllister. Well,
what like as far as like irresponsible mad scientists go

(12:23):
in in sci fi horror films, I mean, she's one
of the dumbest ones.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
She's up there.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I could.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
I can't stand this gal you know what.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I love that she was too successful with the sharks.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, she did too good of a job. Yeah, I love.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I love horror films that are the result of people
being too good and what or like like we're gonna
make sharks smart, but then they go one thousand times
past that. Like I love when that's the plot of
a movie, like we we only wanted to make these gophers,
you know, like two times bigger, but we turned them
into kaiju Like I love when movies are too successful.
And she definitely was that. Now what's uh like, what

(13:02):
is whats your history of this movie? You have you
long been into Deep Blue cy or watch it because
of the show?

Speaker 5 (13:08):
I mean, I've it's you know, I've watched it, uh,
you know a handful of times over the years. Obviously,
UH saw it for the first time very young. At
some point. I remember having a phase where I was
really into LL cool j uh So I was like,
I was like, oh, any I was like, he does
movies too. I was like, oh my god, I was

(13:29):
like I need to find these so like uh So,
I had like a little LL obsession as a kid.
So it would have been some time around then whenever
I first watched this, uh, and.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
It's like it's one of those movies. It's uh.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
I remember also while I was younger, because I'd watched
this and Deep Rising and you kind of get them
mixed up. I would just watched it, you know, just
whichever one was closest to my hand at the moment,
you know, because they were kind of like, uh, somewhat interchangeable,
and even still they are still very similar movies. It's
still very different for sure, but they definitely do share
a lot of DNA. And I mean, I love aquatic horror,

(14:07):
but I usually I usually tend to go towards like
like my favorite animals and alligator. I love alligators and crocodiles.
I also love octopus as well and squids, so like,
I drift towards them as far as the aquatic horror
stuff goes. Because I mean, don't get me wrong, I
love a good amount of shark movies, but there's not
a lot of variety amongst them, honestly. You know, like

(14:31):
it's either A you have sharks trapping people in a location.
B you have people out in the open waters getting
stocked by a shark. It's usually the two routes you
go with some sort of variation, you know. So, and
I'm also like on the I'm also like that person
that like, every time I hear people talking about sharks,
I'm like, you know, domestic dogs kill more than sharks

(14:51):
per year. I was like, sharks don't want to kill us,
they don't care for us. It's we with them too much.
We get too close, and we do dumb stuff around them.
People don't respect the ocean enough. That's why people get
hurt by sharks, and it's not And sharks don't eat people.
People die because they bleed out if they can't make
it to shore and get medical attention.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
So that's also a myth.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
People are like, oh, that thing will eat you in
an instance, like no, it literally does not want to
eat you at all. So like I defend sharks, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Like millions of sharks are killed a year like that
doesn't get any press, but someone in Jacksonville gets a
bit and it's like, oh, oh.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
It's usually in the single digits, like at the end
of the year, Like if there's any fatalities for sharks,
it's usually in single digits, like usually under five.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Even more people talk about vending machines.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, the final destiny. Yeah yeah. Bloodlines did a
good job of vending machines. Hopefully that will raise.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Don't shake that machine.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Whenever I see it one I think about Mitch Hedberg.
I want to see a vending machine that vend's machine.
Vending machines would be so literal, but no, it's now
you got me wanting Llo Coal on a jet ski
in Deep Blue Ce. The only thing that could make
it better would be that. And then uh, also, you
know he's like really hard to kill Ello cool J.
When you watch his movies Halloween, h duo, Oh yeah,

(16:12):
trying Mind Hunters Live. Have you seen Mind Hunters?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I haven't.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
There's an underwater gunfight, there's there's things you'll know it's
it's really good. And then but yeah, it's spoiled it.
But yeah, like Llll's gone three for three three O
in those damn does our audience has heard this many times,
but you haven't. Maybe you know this already, But I
love his ninety nine roles. It's like in ninety nine
he was in any Given Sunday and he played on

(16:39):
the sharks.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
And then he's an into Deep that movie and he
plays a character called God in ninety nine and then
and he's also in Deep Blue Sea where he battles
sharks and he's a preacher.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, and we found out the TV show that he
was in in ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
What a weird little trifecta there.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
In one of the episodes of In the House in
ninety nine, he gets accused of kidding a fish, So like,
there's that connection is I wanted to connect it? That's
what I felt.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
We spent a long time on that one, but no,
it's I don't know. And you know what's fun about
this chapter we're talking about today and we don't have
to just stick with this chapter, but it just made
me happy. Like this is a big budget nineteen ninety nine,
a silly movie about generically modified sharks murdering people. But
these sets are huge, Like I love the exploding water,
you know, I love the elevator horror. Like, these are

(17:35):
big sets, and so it's kind of nice that someone
read this went all right, generically modified sharks are murdering people. Yeah,
let's give it seventy mili Like that's that's kind of
what I love, and it makes me really happy that
just like that's just the first thought that came across
my mind while watching this scene again today is just
how happy I was to see these giant sets of
this film.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I was trying to work out how big the elevator
shaft that they go into is. What Truve look out was,
how fast is the water going in is? It would
it kill them because the first time around we went
through one of the later chapters when they're flooding the
room with water, I kind of worked out that the
pressure that the water's coming in would decapitate them. It

(18:16):
would just just kill them immediately.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah, the pressure is a little convenient for whenever they
need it to be sometimes, because there's certain scenes where
he does like make it a point to be like, Okay,
the pressure of this is gonna hit this fast and
it's gonna take this amount of tons of pressure to
cave in. So it's like they pay attention to it
when it is convenient for him. But then in those
scenes though, whenever it like comes to it, it's like,

(18:39):
oh yeah, no, they can swim out of that, like,
no problem is, it's gonna be chill.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah. So I worked out there's at one point when
we're like thirty three seconds into this chapter, the water
has been coming in for sixteen seconds, and the elevator
shaft they're in is about four foot to me is high,
and I kind of estimated the surface of the floor area.
I worked out there's about nine and a half thousand

(19:04):
gallons or forty three thousand liters of water in it,
in it at that point and it's been sixteen seconds.
So basically the flow rate that's coming through the fairly
small door is about three times right.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, small, Yeah, they're in a pretty small area, Like
the square footage couldn't be too much.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
So it's about a third as fast as the most
powerful pressure washers, so which I couldn't find a good comparison,
but I feel like that's going to be difficult to
maneuver around. So the fact they're struggling to get through
the door and struggling to push back on the door
is believable. The fact that they get the door shut
is not believable. I think that this is the losing battle,

(19:43):
even with car to the bony, staid enoughing behind it,
I don't think that door's getting shut.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
And I love that you guys have the info on
hand of how much emphasis there is about opening closing
doors in this and so many because so because the
two genres that are identical but are just slightly different
are like space movies and underwater movies. They're basically the
same because you're worrying about pressure and decompression and gravity

(20:11):
up in space, and then it's the same thing just
the opposite in the water. So like, what, whether you're
doing either of these subgenres, there's always got to be
at least a set piece or two involving the decompression
or you know, depressurization of something.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
This movie does multiple of them.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
They're like, no, no, we're not gonna let you forget that,
like this is an underwater movie because I think sometimes
like you know, they do it once in a movie
and then you're like, okay, so they're gonna have to
do that process again when it comes to like you know,
once you like learn the geography of whatever station you're in.
So I love that this is like the the primary
Like this is like the big one, you know, because

(20:51):
there is just yeah, the amount of water in this
scene and just yeah, the sets and everything is it's
rather impressive. Like, you know, I'm an aspiring filmmaker myself,
but like I can never really imagine seeing myself directing
something like this, Like I can't really rep my brain
around like the people that specialize in these kind of
movies with these effects and these sets and everything. So

(21:11):
it's like I think that's what you know, like people
always think about, like you know, do Renny Harlan movies
make sense usually no, But like I don't think he
gets enough credit for, you know, being able to just
like manage the chaos of these scenes in so many
of the films he does.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
You don't rule yourself out from doing this kind of film,
Like Rennie started. His first film was called Born American,
which is like three American tourists get stuck in I
think it's Russia and end up like locked in a
an underground Russian fight club prison. And that's like a
real no special effects, just people, quite a lot of

(21:50):
people in some of the scenes, and it's it's decent
as good. So like there's there's a long way to
go from that to cut.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Through either very true, very true, And you know what
I love to Rennie's like, we have water and we're
shooting in the Titanic tanks. We're using water in this movie,
Like there's this water being dumped any And that's what
I love about him. He's like, all right, you know what,
we got water, We have a lot of water.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
All right, let's just use it to great.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, you know what's water fantastic?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Like what's what's what's not even time it? Well, let's
bomb our casts with water and make him slide all
over the place and killed. Like, let's just drop water
on people everyone, because we got it, let's use it.
Like that's what's great. And also in this movie, like
well Kanti did the Sharks, I did the Math. This
is like the most shark movie ever made. There's twenty
six minutes and fifty four seconds that the sharks get

(22:40):
screen time in this like Jaws. Like Jaws are like
five minutes and like, you know, a little under five
minutes this one. Rennie's like, yo, I got three sharks
plus a tiger shark.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
We're using, Yeah, three sharks.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
He's got the he's got that late nineties CGI that
studios are just itching to use, so like he really
gets to, yeah, make a make the most out of it.
This whole uh depressurization scene in like the amount of water.
It gives me vibes of the opening of Underwater.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Love that movie.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
That movie.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
That movie rocks.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
I think that movie does a really great job of
uh you know, like having the the ticking clock, all
the water pouring in them having to get their suits on,
but then still depressurized before they leave and everything, and
like the whole uh everything in that and then Homie's
head explodes because there's a crack in his helmet.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Crazy.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
So this this chapter gave me a little bit of
vibes of that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Don't get me started Underwater because I hate that when
it came out and they're like, it's not as good
as Alien or it's like Alien, like Alien borrowed from
so many movies, like why are you like why it's
underwater getting hit for being awesome, Like just the way
they shot this was great and there's no waste of time,
like they just put you in it, and then sea
monsters and giant sea creatures are murdering people. It's like

(23:56):
it's like a perfect movie in my book. But you know,
I love it.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Because again, Alien was borrowing from the aquatic horrors of
yester years, you know, again like them kind of going
back and forth. One of my favorite movies is Life
from twenty seventeen, and that's another one that gets That's
another one that gets dinged for being too much like Alien.
I'm like, there's so many Alien clones, like stop, who.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Cares the first people haven't seen that. I won't spoil it,
but the first death in Life is one of my
just all time movie death Sequences.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
It's an incredible movie. Calvin's my boy.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah one is flinging suit Flinging spacesuit is is Yeah, yeah,
great film.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
That creature and the Monster and Sputnick I guys want
to hang on?

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah yeah, the two old homies.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, hey, guys, what's up? Like, just go take a
road trip with them. I don't know how that works,
but I don't know. I just like them, especially the
Sputnig one. They make me happy.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Smart Nig's acutie.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah right. I was watching them, like, man, that's a cute.
I think would kill me because I like, you know,
in Prometheus when that guy walks up to like that
that death snake, bro, like that thing's a death stinke,
don't do it Like in spot Nick, I'd want to
hug that thing just hey, like bring it in.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
See but Homie and Prometheus, he's a biologist.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
That's why it's more egregious from him in that movie
like that. Literally that's what he's on the mission for
is to observe the biology. And that's the top line.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Guy.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
We got the guy that just goes to pet the
death snake instantly, dumb, dumb.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
My theory is that they just brought a bunch of
dumb dumbs with him, because the whole point was just
to get the engineers like, yeah, we'll make it seem
like a science experiment, so we'll just bring idiots like
this rock guy.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Is actually a great theory because they that is a
cast full of just ridiculously dumb smart people like like
I even I made a post on Blue Sky about that,
like last week. I was just like, look at these
hot dumb dums that have no idea what they're walking
into right now.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's hot dumb dumbs in space. Should be the name
of that movie. I can't run sideways.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
But I love Prometheus. Yeah, oh I love you know.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
When that got done, I remember my wife and I
we just went for like two hours and drank mark
Arita's and talked about it like that's one of those
movies like what's the timeline? What are they there?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
And so yeah, but yeah, I think they're all just
idiots on purpose because the point they're not collecting any
rocks on this, and they're.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Showing Harris loves rocks.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
And then he gets like pretty frocks. Oozo, Like they
walk down a straight hallway. But yeah, and that's our
kind of theory for this Deep Blue c where like McAllister,
she brings in a criminal, she brings in Scoggins who
can't get a job, she brings in Preacher, like I
think she brought in like Jim and Janie and Janis
is kind of like, we don't know about the rest
of the crew who take off on the boat, but
they might be dummies too. So it's it's like our

(26:45):
theory that that like they hired people wouldn't ask questions.
But so I want to the state is pretty fun.
I think you're gonna like it. So the first major
shark attack in this movie happens at three twenty six.
The longest time gap between shark sightings is six minutes,
and like like the first attack tack like happens at
two thirty eight. So I mean, like this movie it's

(27:05):
never without sharks for long periods of time, and I
love that, and like it starts it right off the bat,
and that just I don't know, it makes me happy.
I figured you'd appreciate that because I figured out this
is the most shark movie ever. It makes me happy.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, we needed a good, good spacing, you know, and
it needs to be evenly distributed.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I have a question too, so I didn't get an answer.
So I was looking through your Tainted Love podcast and
I was looking at the movies covered. And by the way,
if you want to have a really chill night, watch Possession.
Just you know, it's like super chill. It's a super
chill show it to your family, sit around everyone and
watch that.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
I'm two for two on showing that to dates. Like, yeah,
I think it is a good date movie. Legitimately, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Like, get Grandpa and Grandma. But hey, okay, so who
would be from all these movies? Who would be a
good Carter Blake? So you have like.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Killers casting it.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
If I was casting, like, which one of the characters
from these movies would you want to see.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
His ooh.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Spot?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
But I know, I mean obviously fairly recently we cover
natural born Killers and like Mickey, he's a he's a
fairly capable guy. Like you know, uh, as far as
like physically, I mean, uh, Tucker and Dale, they they
get there eventually, they kind of bumble their way.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
In this or uh Scoggins, but together gives me Skogan's vibes.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yeah, I want I kind of want to see Taiju
from Thirst just a vampire riding sharks, like drinking them.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I think he would feel but but he would be
on like McCallister side, because he'd feel too bad about
killing the shark. Yeah, he's too altruistic, So he would
be on the Collister side if if he were, if
he were in the situation. Ooh of Colonel Ives from Ravenous. Yes,
when he gets in his like little fri nz mode. Oh,
he could take the shark. He could totally take the shark.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Could he would?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
And Sam, you know what, this is perfect because Sam
Jackson is the cannibal in Deep Blue Sea and then
so his ives, so we have to we can't wind
Goes running around. Also, I want to see Sully as
from Bones, as Jim Whitlock, just walking around his underwear
and just like another cannibal in the film, just sort

(29:29):
of there. His hair, his hair's maybe has a bunch
of shark fins.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Stelling scars. Guards does a very like suspicious walk in
this movie as Jim, Like every time they got cut
over to him, he like kind of is like has
this like slumped over, like dragging his feet slowly like
very suspicious walk.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
I'm like, what are you up to?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
My guy?

Speaker 5 (29:50):
I don't I don't like it. I was like, put
your show me your hands, like I don't like what's
going on here? One left show me your.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Hand, yeah, cigarettes, and the other one I think Margaret
from Resurrection Maybe I just like Rebecca Hall would be
a good Susan McAllister. Yeah, yeah, from.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
From Woe it has my gosh yeah not the teeth.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Oh man. I don't know. I just had a fun
time looking through and just another to promote your movies.
But I was like, who would be good in this film?
But no, I had a fun time looking through there
and trying to put together a cast of who would
be in this And also Spring Rules, by the way,
I like that movie.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
I like Spring That is a sweetie movie if there
ever was one for centuries old like love Crafty and Monster.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I like the squishy noises in that one. It's really good.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, grateful the work.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Also, I think Claudia would be fun to see in
this movie. A little curs and dunce, I don't know
who's Yeah that.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
That is what this movie is missing.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
It was missing a kid running around for no reason
the meg knew what to do.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
You know though, like let's get a kid in here.
We need the danger.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
This movie, yeah is missing a little vampire child running around.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I guess she could kind of be the Janis ro.
I can imagine like having someone's kid just kind of
live and just is running around knows it. And so
when Sam Jackson arrives, you're like, oh, this child is
going to show you around to do the exposition.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah yeah, wait until sundown and then you'll have your tour.
I don't know, but no, I was like trying to
put together who would be good in this, but like
Tommy Lee Jones from Natural Worn Killers. This is basically
a prison, so he could be like like grabbing the
nose of the sharks with this little thing just.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
He I feel like Tommy la Jones in Natural Born Killers.
His character would be more like Russell.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
He'd be the same character, but just.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
As loud, right yeah, yeah exactly and sweatier.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
And like Batman channeling Batman Forever two face and Natural
Born Killers.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Which is so funny.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
We were like when I rewatch Natural Worn Killers and
like thinking of how Tommy Lee Jones on Batman Forever
is like always talking on Jim Carey and like didn't
like the camp vibe of the movie, and then he
does two roles like that back to back.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
I'm like, what do you mean you don't like it?
Like I think you do.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Tommy, he turned it beyond e levet in those roles,
like he goes big so but yeah, one of my
I bought Natural one Killers when I was twelve on
a US VHS from Blockbuster Video, and I remember the
guy telling me good luck, and then I remember watching
it and just having the those people dunked in the
fire during the prison thing has been burnt to my

(32:35):
memory for a long time. I don't know why, but
that was a There's a lot that goes on that movie.
But for some reason, watching someone get dunked in a
what is it like a a barrel of fire? Does
that happen in that movie or does that make.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
That Yeah, it's like turning like the riot.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, I think they're like, uh, I mean I think
it's the guards And if that's the case, I'm like, yeah, sure,
go for it. But yeah, that movie is a file
done under the live action cartoon movie category because that
movie is crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Everyone on Tainted Love You you focus on the relationships
in the horror films. Yeah, and what do you think
about the relationships and deep because you've got You've got
Jim and janis is like the main existing one that
gets split up and then the.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Pregnant too.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
Yes, oh oh, that's interesting. I wish I should have
went through the deleted scenes before, but.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
The original original ending, Carter and Susan got together, they
shared a kiss before and then she survived. But you also,
I have a theory that like Scoggins is ready into
Kata a little bit more than is. Maybe this film allows.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Jim and jan unfortunately, Yeah, don't really there. That's like
kind of like an archetype of these movies, like the
typical like these are the two there together and it's
like nothing really they are too much for them. And
then I think they go out back to back, you know,
it's like no, no, Russell is in between, but they

(34:10):
still both of them go out fairlyly, so it's like
you don't even really get the thing where it's like
one of them dies and then the rest of the movie,
the other one is like trying to survive because they
lost their person or whatever, and they're the ones out
for you know, I want to kill this chart. You know,
we don't really get that from jan after Jim dies first,
so so not.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Really much to that.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
I'm glad that Susan did not get to kiss Carter.
She didn't deserve it. Carter is pretty much a perfect
action hero in this movie, and she does not deserve him.
So I'm glad that she got what she got because
she deserved it along with the rest of her or
like she deserved the same fate that her crew unfortunately

(34:52):
got at her behest. So I'm glad that the deleted
scene is not the case and that they so like
and I like the like you know, uh that even
Preacher like shuts it down, like they like have like
a moment and he's like, can I interrupt this moment
of like vision intimacy, Yeah, burgeing.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Intimacy because I know we got we gotta go.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
And so I like love that that's like the movie
saying like a, no, we don't really got time for
a romance this one, because I wouldn't have really bought
it because like again, like Susan like spends the first
half of the movie talking on Carter all the time
and he's literally the only person in this movie doing
anything useful, so like now she can. So I'm glad
that they avoided that. But I will definitely say Scogg's

(35:34):
does give me some gay vibes. He's definitely like very
much like I don't know if he I think if anybody, Like,
you know, look, Preacher says he has a wife and kids,
but you know he's he's obviously okay being away from
them underwater for however long, so whatever, you know. But
Skog's definitely has a little bit of a boner for Carter,

(35:55):
like he like, you know, it's kind of that typical
like Skogg's is like, yeah, it might be the person.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
But like I'm not. I can't ride sharks like you Carter.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
You know, he like really admires that like uber masculinity
that Carter has. And there's even something very nice that
like throughout like to like keep him under like keep
him calm. Carter like will like like be like Skogg's like, hey,
tell me this fact because you're the only one that
knows this, Like tell me how this door works, because
you're the only person that knows this. So like Carter
hypes them up and makes Scoggs feels good. So yeah,

(36:25):
Scogg's definitely has a big old crush on Carter. I
feel like Carter is pretty asexual neutral in this movie. Like, uh,
I've been doing a my side quest of the year
has been watching all Jason Statham's movies, and what I've
come to conclusion halfway through that is every character he
plays is either closeted gay or they are just completely asexual.

(36:48):
That's the vibe that Carter gives me here, Like I
could totally see Staithan playing this role, which he kind
of does later in the meg I suppose.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
But but yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Carter I feel like he does is like not attracted
to anyone and as if anything, he's attracted to the sharks.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, I mean he does love pet, He's just in there,
like rubbing it down. What about what about Preacher and
the Bird? Do you think the bird is real? Because
there's a theory that the bird isn't real and it
only exists in his mind.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
No one else interacts with its scenes with him.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
I mean, I mean, I think nobody interacts with it
because who wants to, Like, I don't know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
I love birds, but not for pets.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Like they're annoying, like I don't want to inter like
so like I think they just avoid interacting with the bird.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
But I don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
It could be, you know, uh An a hallucination to
kind of reinforce his ideas of faith and everything, like
having this bird is like keeps him centered or I
don't know, I don't know how religion works. But yeah,
so I'm not I'm not sure, but no, I think that.
I think I think the bird is real, but i'd

(37:58):
also would just not want to interact with it ever.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Clean those pots, man, clean those pots. That thing is
pooping in them and like walking around in there. Don't
cook in.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Those So at Susan's birthday party in the film, who
do you Thinktura took back to her tower? I reckon
she's going for Sam Jackson. I reckon she's like, Hey,
new guy in town. I'm gonna try and make a move.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
I mean, either either that or I could see like
I mean again, like Carter, he's trying to just like
he's not even trying to have drinks with people. It's
just like I kind of just really want to go
hang out with the sharks some more. But maybe maybe
Carter because I could see Carr just being like even
though he's not interested, I could see him just being
like whatever, like like like a zuom it like they're

(38:51):
and he's just like kind of sitting there and like
letting her do everything, like.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I have one of those maybe like he's just kind
of like ah whatever, Like I'm board. It's been a.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Minute looking out the window at the sharks.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, yeah, thinking about the sharks exactly, Brenda, can you
like thrash around it?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Bite me, bite me?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
See this is why we do this show, because I don't.
We've never had these conversations while talking about this.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
This is the first accusations of Carter being a shark sexual.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Surprisingly is you're welcome?

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Yes, yes, that is exactly the kind of stamp I
like to leave.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
He's totally happy organizing his tools because his workspace is
very organized, and then just hanging out with sharks.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, that's pretty much there's He describes him as the
perfect action action movie hero. There is a bit when
they're like opening the door, which again they are not
prepared for this door to be opened. They should they
they in the previous scene is like the whole ocean
is going to try and go in there. They should
be like braced and ready to die through. But as
opening the wheel car just kind of like looks at

(39:58):
the other three and it's a I gotta save these people. Yeah,
if it was just me, I'd be fine. I'd get
through this door. I shut this door, I'll be home.
I gotta say these.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I think you.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Already feel for the guy.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
That is one hundred percent true, And like that's why
you get Thomas Jane to play this role, because he does.
He plays that so well, like that apathetically good person.
Uh you know, because I think he even brings that
a little bit to the mist later on of where
he's kind of just like if I wasn't trying to
like because he wants to get home to his family,
but in that movie is just like I still need

(40:34):
to try to save these people, even though most of
them suck, you know. So it's like he Thomas Jane
has always kind of brought that energy and like, yeah, Carter,
literally if if everybody else would have like died in
the first ten minutes, oh yeah, he's out of here
in twenty minutes. Like like it's like he is a
done deal, like is nothing.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
He just is a light work.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And swims.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, light work by himself.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Didn't we say he brought Skogs down there when Skogs
dies to just get rid of Scoggins because he doesn't
really help it all down there, don't.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, it's it's exposed to it's it's supposed to show.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Because they were like, oh, we're doing everything together and
like they don't want to like split up, and he's
just like, yeah, together, Come on, Scots.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's like, if you're being chased by a bay, outrun
the bay, outrun your friends. That's that's the thing. So
you always go camping with someone with asthma. That's the rule.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
I love a good elevator scene in horror movies too.
I mean, the elevator is not working here, but I
do love a good.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Like elevator shaft scene.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Yeah, definitely, I'm a I'm a sucker for those as well.
I was rewatching hollow Man the other day.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
That has a great elevator shaft sequence.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
So yeah, I'm always a sucker for like the creative
things that you can do. And this time it's like, okay,
we got underwater elevator shaft with sharks.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
What do we do now?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
You know?

Speaker 5 (41:54):
And they come up with like again like a deal
because they even though they do spread the sharks out,
are pretty good them out. They do balance it well
with like balancing the dangers between the sharks and then
just that they're dealing with, like with the water and
in internally in the in the base.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
And you know, it's neat about elevator shaft scenes where
in space it's like I got to hold on to
this elevator shaft or like whatever elevator rung to not
get sucked out into space. And I'm still really impressed
that Ripley's leg doesn't get ripped off when the alien
queen is holding on to her leg in rightliens like
on that thing. But like in water movies, I like
that the waters like Alien Resurrection, that like you're trying

(42:32):
to just get the hell up. It kind of changes
that aspect of it. It's like this one, it's not like,
you know, when that door bus open, you're not where
to get sucked out. You're like, we got to get
to the top. But I like since it's ready, there's
an explosion on top of it. And just we talked
about this before, but special effects guys are just dropping
things on fire into the water and like one of
them hit Thomas Jane and scarred them pretty good. So

(42:53):
like I love that, just like, yes, sharks are coming
from below the ceilings on fire. It's such a reny
move and it made me think about other elevator scenes
I love so Like in Deep Rising, I love when
Kevin ge O'Connor gets hit in the face with a
shoe by fom Key Johnson, like just when that opens.
It's not an elevator shaft, but I just love that scene.
Final Destination too has a good elevator scene with the

(43:14):
guy with the arms. Yeah, people Dead Rise is good drive.
I'm kind of considering that a horror movie scene because
he turns a head into a watermelon. Cavin the Woods
Residen Evil has a really funny one where that lady
gets decapitated, like it's uh, Donna the dead, like what
Steven dies. That's a good one. So I don't know,

(43:36):
I feel like elevators, elevator shafts, and horror like oh yeah, Devil.
I love that movie Devil Rule. It's a whole movie.
I love that movie a lot. But no, I had
to look up other elevator scenes because I don't know,
I like, I like that they're just climbing up this thing,
and I like that you said Carter's annoyed by them.
I gotta look that up.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
It makes me happy, I'd say so.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
And also the the idea that like, you know, the
added a degree to all of this, you know, something
that you know, I don't think we a lot of
the times they don't think of in underwater movies. Is
like again like they've been downs with water multiple times
about this, so like just like the added heaviness of
their clothes and then probably also like getting a cold

(44:18):
while this is all going down to So like you
gotta like think about that, like climbing this thing and
you have like an extra like six to eight pounds
of just water weight on you because you're just wet
as all get out.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Oh yeah, this is the weight of climbing up. I
like that he thinks to open up another door, a
little good water work. This movie's I've said this a
thousand times, Jay, but I love this movie me too.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Last we talked about this chapter. We or you, especially
malk We're pretty down on Skuggin's abandoning carts, closing the
door and like flating around and being useless. But I
kind of listened to it this time, and when Stoggins
kind of leaves to go, it sounds like the door
is shut. They like turn the wheel and it's gone

(45:04):
like clunk. So I feel like, like, great, we've done it.
Let's go. Path just somehow finds an extra level of sealedness,
like the door goes.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
So he's making Skaggins feel good like he did something,
but in reality it's still carter to.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
He's such a great mind.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
They did it, they mission accomplished. Let's go. WHOA.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
All right, I need to really I need I need
to put my headphones on and listen to this really close.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
I mean, you do make a good point mark that
like he is a good leader, because that is something
that like you need to do if you want to
be able to keep the team going, like you gotta
be able to like keep their like spirits up and everything.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
So like yeah, just the idea.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Of to be, like, you know what, I could seal
both of these myself, but like I'll let Skogs do
one of them just so that way, like he gets
that little morale boost.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, I'll be underwater seconds longer. Yeah, but it'll make
Scott's happy.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And then I'll carry him over to the ladder.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
But then he tells me about huge balls.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
That's reaffirming the theory of Scoggin scatter. I think he
brings up fantastic brass balls.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
They're big, like he scogs even sets that up, like
what if? What if Carter wasn't interested. He's like, yeah,
they're big, and.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
He's the sharks. Yeah they're huge.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
No, no, I mean your balls what.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
No, sharks don't have balls. They're internal.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Not taking literally Carter.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Shot some claspers and their regular size. They didn't make
them bigger.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
No, your balls, my balls, Yeah they're brass.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Copy wait sign like things we've never noticed before, drastic
because so this is one I was my favorite film.
I've never noticed when the shark rams to the duel,
we get we get ripples. We get Jurassic Park ripples
in the water. Every time that shark get the bang
from the shark to get the the ripples in the

(47:08):
in the cup of water. And I love that I
never noticed before.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
I like to imagine just like on set, Sam Jackson
being like, oh, I remember whenever I did Jurassic Park,
we did the ripples. We should do that like, can
we get ripples around here? Like you know, like I
feel like that was like him and he was like
happy about it for the rest of.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
The movies, that being like, hey, I did it. I
came up with that. That was my idea.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
He's on should lose his but we should see it. Like, yeah,
so he played golf. I was gonna play golf a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
So Sam's like on on the golf course Jurassic Park.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, we finished filming next for you whatever we did next.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I like the Shark Vision. That's fun.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Like Shark Vision. I kind of wish we got a
little bit more of it. I would have taken It's
not too much of that now.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
I think like they do.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Like like twice right like that, seeming like maybe one
other time.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, there's any couple I think, Yeah, we need more.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
And also, this movie does a good job of setting
up the geography. You kind of we haven't talked about this,
but you kind of know where they're going right in
this movie?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yeah or no?

Speaker 5 (48:23):
Yeah, Like it's like kind of like a they kind
of have to like do like a down and up
kind of situation, right, Yeah, Okay, and then yeah, I
was I was following for the most part.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Uh as far as like yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Them the way that they again, like I think, uh,
Carter again, because he's a great leader, great communicator, So
he's explaining what with what he's doing with each door
and each lock that he does. You know, he's explained
out loud just to be like, hey, I know what
I'm doing here, but for you, dumb dumb, So that
way you can survive know what I'm doing, and that

(48:56):
helps us as the audience know kind of what's going on.
So again, because A Carter's great leadership is why I
know what's going on. And obviously again like Rennie Harlan
is pretty good with location geography as well.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
If we ever do stickers for this show, I want
great leader, great communicator, and then I want sharks don't have.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Balls, yes, shark sexual What would be the colors for
sharks sexuals?

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I mean blue mostly.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
A little bit of red.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like like a few different shades of blue,
and then like one red stripe for the for the
for the blood that attracts the sharks, the sharks get
his blood going.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
You know, I just want this scene sharks don't have balls.
So uh, if if you don't have anything else for
this chapter? What are your top four shark films? Like,
if you're doing letterbox top four, what would your top
four be?

Speaker 5 (49:58):
Yeah, so, I mean, I'm sure all them have gotten
shouted out at some point on here.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
I was trying to.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I mean, obviously Jaws is in there, but I'm gonna
put Jaws at number two. I'm not gonna put at
number one because most most of the dangers in Jaws
not mainly from the shark. A lot of it is
because the mayor puts everybody else in dangerous positions and everything,
and uh and Egos is the real killer in that movie.
But Jaws is still number two. Obviously. At number one,

(50:28):
I have the Shallows. I love the shallows, like I
love that's just one on one, like the whole situation.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
The like the whole situation is because that shark is
a dick.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
Like like as much as I love to defend sharks,
as as much as I love to defend the sharks
as much as I can, like that is the most
petty shark in the.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
World, and it's just a dick, But so I like it.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
That's just one on one, like Blake Lively having a
really great performance, literally acting against nobody. She is acting
against a cgi shark in the water and a seagull,
you know, like you know, so like I love that movie.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Speaking of the jerk thing, there's a whale yeah close
by that the shark could just eat. Yeah, and the
shark's like, nah, I'm gonna eat this lady. And I'm
gonna spend all night here inside eat two surfers. I'm full,
and I'm still I'm gonna murder that this murder this lady.

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She can't.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
This water is too shallow for me.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I don't care, how dare her? And yeah, she's great.
Lively is great and it's like her best performance by far.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
She's awesome.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
So I got the shallows, I got drawas so at
number three, I don't know if this would be my
deepest cut if anybody is not shouted out yet. In
Australian film from twenty twelve twenty thirteen, depending Bait if
you guys, For those of you guys that don't know Bait,
Tsunami Hits and a bunch of people are trapped inside

(51:58):
a grocery store along with a shark, and it's the
two sharks, Yes, very big ones in this grocery store.
They're battling wits with each other. But the thing is,
all these secrets are coming out. It's this it's this
character mellow drama. They set up all these character connections
before the tsunami hits and then so it's like you

(52:19):
got the exes, you got the parent trying to reach
the daughter, and you got.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
The the criminal, the police. So yeah, you got all.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
These dueling new boyfriends.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Yeah again, kind of like The Mist, but with the
sharks instead. Uh, And I think that's a really fun movie.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
And then yeah, oh.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
My god, Yeah, he's fantastic in that.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
And I love I love me some Sharni Vincent. Yeah,
and there's a jet ski in it, which makes me
also that.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Somebody somebody punches or kicks a shark in that too,
or I think he like hits it with the butt
of a shotgun underwater or something like that.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Don't they put a guy in a metal case?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yes, and baskets and yes, yeah whoops.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
And then Evan of Crams and then my number four
is one that I go to bat for back in
the Jaws franchise. But I'm talking I think Jaws The
Revenge is the best sequel of the sequel bunch to Jaws.
Jaws the Revenge It's great. It's uh, it's got a

(53:37):
great uh you know, finding your groove again, love story,
we got.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Family, uh, you know, trauma and drama.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
I think it's really great. And the shark is psychic.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Question mark, you know, no question.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
So yeah, Jaws The Revenge rules.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
So anybody that you know, the worst movies they've made,
No watch more movies actually, because Jas The Revenge rules.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Banana Boat. Yeah, the opening trap that guy bleeds for
Like I feel like he's screaming for about three, like
thirteen minutes just with his arm, Like the shark sets
a trap for him and kills them and then just yay,
you know, not many movies feature like I don't know
how old she was when she made the movie, but
like a mom who just lot like dealing. She's going

(54:25):
through an incredible amount of trauma. Yeah, grandma. She meets
Michael Kaine like she's the action.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
They're like really great, love it.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yeah, Like she's going through it and her kids are like,
don't worry about it, mom.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Yeah, an adult acting reduced to like an eight year old.
I don't like your new boyfriend, Mom, I don't like it.
Like it's such a like I love it. It's so like,
so melodramatic, Like.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I love it when she steps in the water and
then she and the shark are both like, it's the
it follow shark pretty much. It's like, I know where
you are. I am coming for it.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Actually, yeah, they have a moment they link up.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
That's my favorite flick Jaws.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
You you're the second person to put bait in the
top four and second person to put Jewels revenge, the
other one being Mark.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Hell yeah, because it rules. I tracked the entire shark's journey.
I figured out how long it took down to get there,
how much distance it covered. I spent a lot of
time with this movie, and I love it. I love
it so much. Yeah, my favorite film is Jaws. My
favorite movie is Deep Blue cy And my favorite flick

(55:33):
is Jaws. The events.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah, it varies between that and Sharks and Venice. I think, oh, yeah,
the coin flip that you do.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Look at that thing, oh that thing. Yeah, Sharks and
Venice is great. If you ever get a chance to
watch that. Well, it's not great.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
I added a couple to my watch list as I
was going through shark movies and I'll add Sharks in Venice.
I threw you, guys, watch Shark Girl. That looks interesting
like the influencer.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah, sure watch that. Yeah hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Ghost Shop needs to be on your list of the
one if you've not seen ghost sho of course, of course, great?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Okay, no more than sliding. Great.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Well, thank you for joining us for this chapter one.
Where can the listeners find you? Plug all of your
many podcasts?

Speaker 4 (56:18):
Yeah, thank you for having me.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
You can find me at most places Blue Sky, Instagram, letterbox,
at Underscore, Daddy Disco. You can hear me on Tainted
Love with Zobo the Shotgun every other Wednesday, horror movies
based on sex, relationships and love and things of that nature.
So we just did Natural Born Killers episode and the

(56:40):
next one will be The Forbidden Photos of a Lady
above Suspicion, a little Italian horror in there, uh, and
then over on Spectro Sema Club, I shall I do
with my boy Garrett. We do a different sub genre
every month, and we just wrapped up Tech Horror month
and then we'll be going into suburban horror for the

(57:04):
weapons coming out into theaters.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Here soon.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
People under the Stairs. Is that suburban horror.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
I haven't seen it, so I actually I don't know
where where it takes place, but I actually have not
seen that one.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I'll have to send this your way, but I just
want you to know. I figured out the total square
footage that AJ would have gotten if you finished with
his tape measuring and Barbarian, So I got that soon.
Yeah hell yeah, so that you're well, yeah if you like,
because Barbarian is awesome.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
Uh So we got that going on over there, and
then I also am a rotating host over on Pod
and Pendulum. We go through franchises of horror movies one
by one. We're in the middle of the Romero Living
Dead movies right now, the Summer of George, as it's
been dubbed. Uh So we are doing that over there.

(57:58):
I'll be on for the Survival of the Dead and
Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead remake because hashtag zombaby.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I still that in the Pack Theater in Houston. It
was one of the best movie watching experiences I've ever had.
People lost the.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Great movie, fun movie.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Yeah, a great soundtrack too, yeah chi che Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
So yeah, you can search my name on Spotify. I'm
I'm on a lootted podcasts. You know, I yap I'm
a yapper.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Well this was great, thank you for yapping with us
kind of pok And if I ever do stickers, I'll
send them your way.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Oh hell yeah, Actually I have.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
I have bumper stickers that I don't know if you
want one, but I have some of these I could
send you away. I don't know if you can read that.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Oh yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Do you just go around slapping them on random cars
as well?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
But I have one of my truck and my wife
has one. But it's fun when I'm in traffic and
I just see someone squinting at it and then taking
a photo. It like makes my day. Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
My wife wouldn't let me put one on off hard,
She goes, I let you do this show every week.
I see enough of these shark movies. I'm not going
to have great well listeners. You can follow this podcast
all over social media at deep Blue Seapod. Everything I
do is I w at Life versus film dot Com.

(59:19):
Follow me at j A y C l U, I
double t on Instagram and uh Mark Movies, Films and flex.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
What's going on over there is this just that websing,
reviews and podcast and all that.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
We as always we are great at plugging stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Deeply pod, Gmail, We're gonna put it on social media too.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Next week. Next week is a film I've never had
it before. It's called Abandoned Ship or Seven Waves Away.
David brook is returning. We talk about a film. It's
very similar to the last movies on the lifeboat, very
very similar, but this one actually has sharks in it.
So come back next week for Abandoned Ship. But as
for Deep As one, chapter nineteen dive two, thank you

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once again to our guest of Von Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Of course, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I have been Jacober and Markadmeyer and we'll deep Blue
see you next week