October 1, 2025 • 41 mins
Mark and Jay dive into another Deep Blue Scene, taking a swim through the pool sequence in It Follows, in which Maika Monroe's Jay and her friends use a swimming pool and various electrical items to try and defeat the shape-shifting demon stalking her! In this episode they discuss sitting monsters, unexplained metaphors and how far the creature has followed!
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am Mark Yarra Rules Hoffmeyer.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And I am Jay Seashell flip phone Cluet. Welcome you
board Deeply See the podcast that you are as a
sea shell fliphone. On this podcast, we've been through the
entire Deeply See trilogy, scene by scene. We're doing it again,
but we're also looking at some Deeply See adjacent films
and films that have a Deep Blue scene, which is
what we're doing today with It Follows. What is it follows?
It's a twenty fourteen horror thrill up in which Mike
(00:45):
Monroe plays Jay great name, who has sex with a
guy and then he transmits a sexually transmitted monster onto her,
who keeps on wherever she is. This being follows, It
follows it's heading and it will kill her upon arrival
and then head back up the chain to the previous guy.
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The scene in question is a climax to that film
where Jay and her friends Paul Yara and her sister
Kelly uh such a hatch a plan hatch to trap
for Jay to stand in the middle of quite a
decent sized swimming pool surrounded by a bunch of electronic
items all plugged in, ready to be thrown into electrocute
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the creature or Jay. It's not a good plan. We'll
get we'll get there, but the kids, the creature arrives, hellues,
we're gonna talk about it. So I think, Marky, what
you've been wanting to talk about this scene for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, yeah, I mean, listen, I've been writing like I
love it follows it's It's actually been really good to me.
I wrote about Yara for Cracked I and about supporting
characters who need more love because your rules, and so
does Kelly. They're just like straight up right right or die?
I love I love Kelly Yarra and I Paul wants
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to get with Jay, but Paul is still down the
roll too, Like he's he has a little some kind
of dude be like, you know, he likes Jay, but
he's still down to battle on an invisible entity and
get like leveled by the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, Jay kind of picks Greg kind of earlier in
the film. He's like he's he's a little bit annoyed,
but he's not gonna like confront her and say what
right hand? He gets it, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
He still helps. He still helps and like Kelly's like
super cool. She's one who thinks of the sheet and
the scene we're going to talk about. Yara's just out
here reading her her little reader and farting and getting
shot and.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So many shots. She's just asleep, just.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Just sleeping and on a raft, strategically strategic rafting. Like
she's just the best. So you know, I dig her
and also back I think twenty eighteen, I figured out
how far the creature follows, and it follows, and I'm
mapped because Detroit's character in the film, so I mapped
exactly where Jay went and it went. Then I created
a map that I came up with a timeline, and
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I came up with the creature traveled about one thousand,
one thousand, seven hundred and seventeen miles Oney seventeen miles,
And like a couple of the producers reached out to
me and said I was right, which is awesome. And
then you know, it could it could blow up in
my face with the sequels, but you know, then that
got me a job with film theory. Then I wrote
about how to defeat it for them, and it's just
been a movie that has been really good to be Jay,
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and it had swimming pools and you know, a lot
of water. There's a lot of water in this movie.
This is a water heavy horror film.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It is like I watched it for the first time
last year, just just on a whim, and he had
told me, like, we're going to talk about the pool
scene one day, and I didn't know what the pool
scene was at that point. And there are so many
pool scenes in this film. Like the first the second
scene is she's hanging out in a pool. Oh is
this it? Is it peaking early? Is this film? Like
we like this pool scene?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But no?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And then later in the film she's hanging out with
the pool again. There's a bunch of scenes by the ocean.
And then then when we entered the pool scene, I
was like, yeah, this, this is probably the pool scene.
It's one right at the end. So yeah, I was
kind of spent the whole film like pussy, pussy, pussy,
and they're all great. This was I think. I think
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this was my favorite first time watch of last year.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Oh that's awesome, you know. David Rodford Mitchell, he did
an a m A on Reddit and he said that
water is incredibly important. He says he's not going to
explain it, but water's so all In the beginning, Annie,
she goes to the beach and dies. She gets folded up,
which is horrifying. Yeah, then you have j in a
swimming pool. But then you see a photo of Jay
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in a swimming pool in her room. And then she's
at a movie theater and her dad is given has
given his kid water. They focus it on that, and
then then they go on a date by the water,
and then she's like, hey, I need water. And then
when she's at college, there's a T. S. Elliott poem
that mentions waves and sees. Then there's painting a wave
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in her home. They're watching what Godzilla with all the
waves like creature coming out of the water. And then
the girl comes into her house drip in water, her
empty swimming her her above ground swimming pool becomes an
empty above ground swimming pool. Then she goes into the
to that boat in the water, and then she goes
to the lake house by the water, and then it's
raining during the pool scene, and then later on when
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she pulls spoilers looks up with Paul, it's raining. So
there's just a lot of water in this movie. Yeah,
and also Under the Silver Lake is wet to his
other movie. I haven't watched The Myth of American sleepover
a lot of water. I mean there's there's a lake,
there's silver there's lakes. He smells the whole time, which
is kind of interesting. There's a pool is very important.
(05:42):
And Under the Silver Lake, so yeah, I mean David
Robert Mitchell is all about that water and it makes
me happy.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Is he doing I didn't realize that that they follow
had been announced. I'd say he doing that too.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So yeah, I think so. He's been in director's jail
for a little bit because of Under the Silver Lake,
which is crazy because I think the budget was like
four million, and I think to go to director's jail
you need to you need to at least make an
eighty million dollar movie that makes twelve million. I don't.
I don't understand director's jail for a four million dollar movie,
but somehow happened. But he's back. He's going to do
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they live or they follow? Hey, they live? They they
followed it? They live to follow?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean if they follow is is they live? But
with it it follows monster? Then yeah, I'm hit for it.
That'd be great consume a massive long fight with this
invisible imagine they live but Keith invisible.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And then the creature turns into Keith Keith David and
mica Ah Monroe just has to battle it for about now. Yeah,
so this was your like you weren't turned off by
you weren't turned off you know it follows. I think
was quite divisive when it came out because people, you know,
they I think people didn't like I'll patientate, Well, it
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doesn't explain much, but you love it when you watch.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I duggle that like it. You can tell it's
a low budget film, but they kind of they use
that well, like the monster is just hey, it's a person.
It could be anyone. It's just a person. And sometimes
there's no one. You can't see anyone there, which the
cheapest monster you can have.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And like the cinematography is is it's it's like it's
slow paced a lot. There's a lot of shots whereas
just the camera is kind of in one place and
just kind of spinning. And that it does that well
because it's just like scanning. It's it's kind of the
paranormatuity thing you're looking you're looking for what's there and
what's not there, And the camera pans and you see, oh,
there is someone walking in the distance, but I could
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just be a person. And the camera keeps panning again,
and they're now they're closer, and they're still walking in
the same line. That's probably the monster that someone needs.
Someone needs to see this person as. I think that
that's that's all done very well. The actings will great,
the characters, you know, I have no problems with this
one at all. I like how it's explained enough. Yeah,
you pick it up in bits, you like, only they
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can see it. It's gonna keep coming, the whole lineage
thing passing on through his acts, et cetera. I can like,
you're fed to crumbs as much as you need. I
don't need to know anything more. Is it dead at
the end?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I hope.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I mean there's a sequel, so maybe not, but I hope. So.
I prefer films where they kind of sort it out.
That's what annoys me with the Halloween films, though Michael
Mosley's still alive at the end. He should be dead,
but he's still alive. What are we doing then?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Just sort it out?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
And that's true though, because I think the reason they're
going back to they follow is because you just sometimes
you just got to go back to the well to
get a movie made. Sure, and so let's say it's good,
but then you're just gonna invent more lore. But you're right.
The nice thing about this movie is when Hugh or
that you know, that's his fake name, tells Jay what's
going on. It's not totally forced expository dialogue because you're like, listen,
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I'm telling you to save you. Yeah, and it's you
would maybe tell somebody that. So it's kind of interesting
that they pick up the bread crumbs. And also the
things behavior is quite interesting. And I read on the
m A A m A David Robert Mitchell said that
this thing could get on an airplane, but it has
a form, so it can't just like sit in first
class on a sold out flight.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Canone sit on it?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Can it?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Can it sit?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Can it sit?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So it's always they say, like wherever you are, at
any point in time, it's walking towards you, and we
see it stood still certain times, I guess it probably can't.
When it goes in and gets Greg, it kind of
climbs through his window.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, it breaks a window to go out, so it
can't pick a lock.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Oh maybe it's just easy to break a window.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, but I like that it has to break through things.
It can't. It can't like you know, skip through things
or more through things. So like it can't just sit
on a bus. So it's it's pretty. And then this one,
I think it just walk yeah, based on like where
they are, and the math kind of works out, which
is kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Nothing. I feel like, I feel like it could get
on a boat. I feel like it could always just
be doing laps of a cruise ship just like deck
just all the time, because you can walk on to
you can walk onto a plane, but you can walk
onto a boat when you can keep walking the whole time.
Whereas if you're walking up and down the aisle of
a plane, someone's gonna well, I guess they can't. They
can't see it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So it's gonna on it, right because if you touch it,
you get a hell of a bird.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, so it's got to keep on like scooting around
people in the aisle.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
It's just like, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
Does it do butt or cross the question? But yeah,
I don't know there's enough there to understand it, and
then there's enough there to not But I like that.
I like that's just some ambiguity, but you also have
(10:56):
a pretty firm understanding of what the thing is. And
it's a brilliant idea for a movie because you know,
the things just following you wherever you are. It's walking
towards you, and that sucks. Yeah, And also I like
that it doesn't drive a Ford Bronco across Michigan to
get to Jay. That would demystify it completely. You just
know that's walking towards you. It's gonna get to you.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, it's it's like the heightening the zombie thing. Like
the zombies, they're slow, they're walking, They're coming for you eventually.
This is just slow. We'll get that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And even if you you know, passing it along does
is not smart because if it just keeps getting passed along,
it's gonna come back to you eventually. So then you're
just waiting.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, but maybe, I mean if you can't if you
can't kill it and can't think of a way to
kill it, then you're you're always always running, whereas if
you pass it, if you pass it along to somebody.
I mean, when she passes it on, pass on to
Pool Pool, we didn't see him drive past like a
sex worker. Not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
If you're you're not going to know where it is though,
I yeah, but I feel but hm hmm. You're in
the bathroom of like a burger king and then the
thing corners you. That'd be horrifying. I'd rather know where
it is. Yeah, keep it very just a horrible schedule
and just keep it every day and then figure the
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thing out.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I feel like you need to have a colleague, you
need to pass it on to somebody else, have a
team member so two of you can see it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Is.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
This is the problem they get into with a lot
of these scenes, is that only Jay can see it.
Mm hm no one else can. So once she's you know,
she passed it on to Pool, that she then has
a cohort. No, we like, we can go back to
back and we can definitely see it coming. You can
just sleep in shifts.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And they can go back to back from Deep Blue
Sea two.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Absolutely, Yeah, with the play guns, that's it. If you
if you if you have a good group of friends
that you're like quite close with, pass it on.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
To all of them. You. Oh, no, you'll get it jesually,
have some fun.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, and just if you pass on to somebody, if
they then have can they pass it back to you
so you'll then like top of it. I don't know
if it works in terms of like if you, if you,
if you had sex an even number of times, it's
on them a odd number of times it's on you.
I don't know how the how the chain works. That's it.
(13:25):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, and then in fighting starts and then.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It just half the monsters your turn.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah exactly, No, yeah, wait, why are you leaving me
with this? Like that would just get ugly? Could you
take like a paintball gun with you or or oh
take a bag of flower, a bucket of water and
a bag of flower and some tar, tar and feathers. Yeah,
like what that's like if the thing comes at you
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you have a paintball gun which is in your back
and highly unpractical, or just something where you can mark it.
Would it stay marked? Actually, all the all the people
probably would see the paint then because it's on this fork.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
But then it's interesting, we never see it. We never
see it change from one being to another, never see
an animal, So whether whether that would like the morphing
would change what's on it because it's wearing different clothes
and different similar but different clothes and she can only.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
See it correct, So that's I mean, it's worth trying.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, absolutely, it's worth trying.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Just get him, like walking him middle of a football field.
Have a friend with a big truck hit it. What
would happen?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I mean, it seems very strong. I reckon it would.
It would be knocked down by the truck, but the
truck would also probably take quite a bit of damage
because when it punches Pool on the beach, he goes flying. Yeah,
he sails out of the show.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And the beach scene. It wings the TV too, like
it really does. But yeah, it's interesting. It never jumps
over movie theater seats or any like when it's in
the theater. It's not gonna it's not gonna do a
running dive onto you. No, it's just because I don't
think it wants people knowing it's there.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I think it. I get the feeling the monster
feeds off of the the craziness, the or like the
other people thinking the person that's following is not all there.
They want they want that disorder, that disorientation. If other
people know it's there, then the chick us up.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
If you're in like a football game packed stadium, if
you're in a pack stadium anywhere that's not too loud,
people can reasonably hear what's going on. What it get you.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Good depends on how how observant you are.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
And then when everyone around just be like, what has
happened that getting folded?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Would it choose to get you? I see, yeah, I
thought you meant like, what could you could be distracted
by renown going on? Uh? Well, I don't know, because
it's not like a mindless machine. Because it gets to
the pool and it stops and it picks things up
and chucks into the pool rather than just getting into
the pool. I think at that point they think it's
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some like mindless force. It's going to just keep coming,
and so it will get to the pool and it
will just wade straight in. But so yeah, I think
if it's at the crowded stadium, then it would probably
wait pick its moment. It just like stand there creepily
watching guys like the The various forms of the monster
are all pretty creepy, but for me, just the naked
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guy stood on the roof is like the most unsettling image.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I think this is it's a jerk. And imagine if
you're playing football, American football, and you're you somehow contracted
it and you're just running down for a touchdown and
then you just run right into it and everyone's like,
what's like, what happened? Gets ripped the park on a field?
Would it wear a football player's uniform the creature.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think to get to the player, either that or
like a referee uniform maybe just like someone who's allowed
to be on the pitch.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, and so you're not thinking about it too much,
or like they got the water boy on the team. Sure, yeah, yeah,
we're going levels here. Swimming pool scene.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Swimming pool scene. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So you think it's a doune plan.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think, well, they haven't looked into how the electricity
is going to work in a body of water that big.
For one thing, because it's a it's a big body
of water and it's a relatively small amount of electricity.
I'm not suggesting listeners should try this. They shouldn't. Don't
do this. If they maybe if they chucked all of
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the items in at the same time, it's still just
one building's electricity. So yeah, I don't think it's a
good plan in terms of functioning. And also if it
were to work, at what point is Jay getting out
of the water because she stood in the middle of
the pool. Is like, they're just supposed to start coming
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in and she immediately heads out because if the creature
sees that, the creatures going to immediately head out as well.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
True, maybe maybe they thought it was one track minded.
You're right, it would just flop into the water.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's going to keep heading towards her. And so she
has stood the other side of the pool, and the
creatures in the pool is going to keep coming across
the pool to get her, is what they probably thought
it would happen. But that's that's incorrect, and instead they
have provided They've put Jay in a very vulnerable position
in the middle of a pool, surrounded by very throwable objects.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Man, poor j and but these you know what, though,
even if the plan is wonky, I do like that
they try it, Yes, absolutely, yeah, I like that Yara
and Kelly and and my gosh, Paul try It's so refresheating,
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you know, movies like Smile and other films they deliberately,
which I like. I like both of them, but they
they they the monsters separate people from others, like, oh
you're crazy, Oh you've lost your mind. We need to
get you help. And then they run away and they
isolate them. I like that this didn't happen, and I
like that our Scooby gang here is just Jay, her sister,
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her flatuan friend, Yara, and Paul.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This guy who's kissed two of them.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, little little Paul. But then they're running around with
guns and I like that. Kelly comes through with the sheet, like,
I respect that scene. And then, you know, to Paul's credit,
he just walks up and tags the thing in the
back of the head. He's shoot this little sucker.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He gets in the hand first. The first time I
watched it, when he shot Yarra accidentally, I was like, whoa, whoa.
I did not see that. I don't know how I
didn't see that coming. I was locked in and I
just just shoots. He's shooting a spitting visible across a pool.
He hits his friend, and.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I love that. When she's in the hospital later, she's
still reading her clamshell and she's just drinking juice.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean, what else you gonna do the dream?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, well no, it's just not I like that the
sisters are supportive. I mean, we got to talk about
the mom because she's just never around, very sad mom
in this movie, she's just looking at walls.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
This is I mean, this is one of those like
Tea or like I just watched all the Funnest Nation
films as have you recently, and there's there's very few
parents in those films. They're they're in some of them,
but not all of them. Three is mainly kids.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
No parents, then they're not worth a toss if they
are in it. So it's I guess that's fair, but
I I don't know. I I think the swimming pool's
scene is fun because one it limits the locations. It
keeps things on a budget. It's an indoor pool, so
if you already have lighting inside of it, just chuck
some lights in it. You can keep it pretty cheap.
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And you know, I think David Robert Mitchell just likes
filming Micah Monroe in pools, so that works for him.
And then I don't know, I you know what's interesting.
The music is just wonderful in this scene. Disaster pieces
like you're jesuise. This is intense and no. I love
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the music pumping, I love the storm. Yaa gets shot,
you're bummed out. Kelly comes through, the thing gets tagged
in the head, the huge blood puddle at the end.
But some people have a theory that it's weakened in
water because he tags it in the head and it
comes back. But then when he gets shot in the
head in the water, it goes, oh, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I mean it could also be because that's the second
time it's been shot in there.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point, Jay. I mean, how
many bullet shots get you know, how many bullet holes
can you have in the entity's head? I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Maybe two, more than one, it seems. Yeah, it gets
shot in the hand and belly flinches. Yeah, this this
thing is a beast.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I love that it's pointing at Paul's get away and
get away from and he doesn't attack Paul. That's what's
interesting again, e But I like that it's not going
It can't. I don't know if it can go after
the three when it's going after her, like, it's not
interested in them. If it gets close, he's gonna knock
you thirty feet. Yeah, Paul gets leveled. You know, there's
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a lot of people almost getting shot in this movie too,
by accident. There's a scene at the beach. Oh yeah, Greg, Yeah,
Greg almost gets tagged. Poor little Yarra gets gets shot.
But I mean, I think that's what happened. If a
kid grab a gun and just start shooting it.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Sure, yeah, I do like that he doesn't. The four
of them don't feel very skilled. They just kind of
feel like normal people. Like what we do, what we got,
like dad's gun and like an iron and O TV.
That's what can we do with that? Check it in
the pool? And and it's just like when when the
creature eyes, what j is supposed to do is like
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point at it and she's like, my god, it's here.
Everyone's hair. It's hair, it's hair, like pointing at it.
The plan to the plan. But they're they're they're kids.
They're like kids who don't know. So yeah, and they
pull it off and they put it off.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Do you do you believe that? Like the so the
swimming pool that Jay's in, it's kind of like her
safe place. There's kind of neighbor kids kind of checking
her out. It's kind of her place of like isolation,
even though she's sitting feels what is it like one
of those what what? What's the thing that they do
in a minority of report when they're just in the water.
It's like a like isolation to the water therapy.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Or something sense sensory deprivation.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, like that seems like her place. And then I
think the creature probably destroys it, so it takes away
her safety, happy place. What a di And then I
like that in the pool, yeah that's true. But in
the pool later on, you know, like that's they took
that away, and so that's like, yeah, your comfort zone
is gone. So then they go to another pool and get.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Them big, bigger pool. You take away my school pool,
Come to a big pool?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Are you in the metaphors and movies? Like when when
a movie tries to because Robert Mitchell said water stands
or something in this movie, and I maybe I'm stupid,
but you know, I don't really read. I don't really
care to read movies like that. I just enjoy watching them.
But did do you ever read on what water stands for?
In this movie? I mean, kids are drinking water, she's
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drinking water, and he dies by the water. Jay's by
the water multiple times. There's swimming pools, there's paintings of waves.
When they watch TV, you see the water, Like, what's
what are we missing?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
The food is that there's there's so much and it's
so kind of inconsistent as to where it is and
what what form it's in. That's a it's a frustrating
quote from from Mitchell. Oh yeah, what it means something.
Not going to tell you what, but it means something. Okay,
he's a rat when it.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Comes that stuff. I have to talk about Under the
Silver Lake And there's so many codes in that movie
that people have followed, and I don't want to wreck anything,
but it's just it's almost not even worth it when
a lot of time because like, I'm not going to
tell you what it is, Like, well, I don't really
care about figuring it out.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, I'm going through David Lynch's stuff at the moment.
That's a lot of that in there as well.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm not gonna tell you, Okay, Well I'm not gonna
waste time on it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah. Well, I mean some filmmakers will say it's not
up to them to that it means something to them,
but it might mean something else to the viewer and
figure it out for yourself, which is all well and good,
but I feel like you made the film, so what
how you what you what it means to you is
the right thing. That's what's the correction what it means
(25:56):
to you? And so I'm staying there guessing, and like,
I can't flip to the back of the book and
see what the answer is because you won't, bloody you
tell us, so I don't. It's not even it turns
out no me neither.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's you know, I just let movies wash over me.
I know some people watch movies kind of they want
to make fun of them. They want to figure them out,
they want to get the clues they're looking for Easter eggs.
Like for me, the first time I watch a movie,
I just wanted to wash over me, if that makes sense.
I don't want to I just want to watch it.
I just want to enjoy it. I don't want to
(26:30):
be looking around for everything or trying to figure out
what this like, you know, you know, like I love
the Babba Doo, but you know, I know what it's
going for, but I'm not trying to figure that out
the first time I'm watching it, if that makes sense,
Like I wanna like Donna dead, Like I know it's
all about consumerism, but I just want to watch when
I was younger, Like I just want to absorb the
thing and then think about the themes later.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That would I've seen it once and I was on
a plane, which is the wrong wait place to see
the But so I just I barely even watched it.
What is it about? I don't know. I didn't repay attention,
So I diah, that's that's bad.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Brief trauma, probably depression, children, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But you know, I should give it another shot. Not
on a plane, not in a brightly lit people were
on me talking the whole time. I just give it
a show.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I do love I do love a plane movie.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Though there are a genre of films of his plane movies.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, basically, but you know, it sucks. Dela's been playing
good movies lately, good indies, right, And I'm not saying
it sucks, but typically you want to watch something stupid
like Taking Three, but all of a sudden you're like,
oh man, they got this movie, like I didn't even
get to see this yet, and then you go like
red Rooms, I watched Red Rooms on a plane and
(27:52):
then I bought it and watch on a bigger screen.
But that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
All right, there's people out there. How long is the
flight for six?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
That was great?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I can just about watch the brutalist Let's go.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well man, So you know that was her dad right
when you walked into the pool.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I read the Wikipedia page and it said that. Okay,
I didn't realize that either time that I watched it,
because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's not important, is it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I haven't seen her dad any I'm guessing he's in
a photo at some point.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, he's in a photo. Yeah, yeah, there's a photo
of him with her at a pool. There's a lot
of pool work.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, a lot of pool Yeah. I mean it's true,
there is, it's true.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Any other thoughts about this scene?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Uh, the it really clocks it with an iron. I mean,
the first couple of throwers, it's getting his arm in.
Once it gets his arm in, she is toast. She
is probably with a toast. That was I'm sorry. I
likeiful it gets up with a TV, you know, it's
(29:03):
this is just a real bad setup for Jada being
I'm stuck here all this stuff. It's just being thrown
at me. It's very strong creature. What have we done?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Swimming with the cast can't be easy?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Sure, I mean she's and she's then it's it's not
deep water, she can stand up. I think, Oh, there's
a shot. I like how the scene kind of starts
where you know, the creature's kind of coming down the
back pools, get the POV of it. Then you cut
to jay Stad in the pool, but shot from underwater,
so you can't see her head and it's like mirrored
(29:38):
on the surface of the water, so she looks like
just some monster. Look, there's some like headless, mirrored eight
limbed thing underwater. I think it's a really great shot.
It's simple that it's effective. I think it works really well.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Oh, the whole scene's gorgeous, just her in the pool,
like even the blood when it pops up. There's a
great shot of her in the pool where she's kind
of just up and then like there's the I don't
know what it is behind her, the lanes I guess
from the pool, like just right behind Like that's just
such an iconic thing. And then she starts pointing that's
(30:12):
a that's an iconic shot.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I think, and then poor Yarra, I do appreciate all
of the kind of the waiting that they do, like
just like go to the pool and we're off. They
go to the pool, they set up and like, well,
now what do we do? We gotta this thing's walking,
so we'll be here a while. I guess everyone just
kind of keep ahead on this pool. Uh, just hang
(30:35):
out here.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
When do you think it's gonna come? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, they didn't. They didn't work out the walking speed
that you did. I think.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, that monster shot is pretty great though, when her
head it looks like her shoulders are connected.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, I mean this movie rule Like, you know, I
love this movie. I do.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I think atil was it one point three million?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, it's such a good idea, like something is always
following you, and and Jay's a good kid, and I
hate what Hugh did to her, but then her family's
cool with her. It's such It really does subvert a
lot of what's the word horror tropes? I think, and
(31:21):
it but it still makes you very uneasy because you
know the thing's always coming after you. And I dig that.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I mean today horror tropes. Pooland Yard should have died regular, Yah,
they should, like the Pool shouldn't be alive at the end,
he's Scoggin's.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You know, even Greg isn't a bad dude, Like he's oblivious,
but he's not a is he He's not a bad dude.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I think he's fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, he shows up and he's like drive and then
she's like, hey, I'll pass it on to you. And
who knows if he believes it or not.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
But he's Wolden. He's been told the two and he's
still like, yeah, sure, let's go have sex in a hospital.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I have all of your energy sucked out by your
mom monster. That's an interesting death. Jay, Yeah, that is
very just sucked. But you know, I really like what
you said too. Jay never becomes a brat. I think
he just internalizes a lot of it. I just think it's, oh, Paul, sorry,
(32:29):
I'm mixing up my names here and I'm looking. I
have the names right in front of right here.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I'm right here, and I'm Jay.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, that's true. But it's and I like where it ends.
I like the music. It's it's one of those movies
that deserves all the praise. It's getting like I think,
I think it's unique. I think it's quite simple and
it's very high concept too, which I like. And I
think when you keep things simple like that, you can
make you can have more time, like waiting at the pool,
(32:58):
you can have that. And like when they go hunting
for for a Hugh slash Jeff, Yeah, like they find
his house, they find the the the like he's rigged
the entire house to get out of there. And then
they go to his family's house and he's just like
a kid. He's like, I didn't mean to hurt you
as him, come on, bro, but.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
It was like personal, Like he didn't pick her specifically,
It's just like he wanted to puzzle onto someone.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh man, and he's done it before he passes to Annie.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, sure, how long has he been doing because.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
He knows, he knows a lot about it, so he's
clearly survived this thing for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But he, I mean, he gets lazy, like when the
cinema and she says, oh, yeah, they got on the
other address and it's it's at that moment he goes
like wait what hang, we gotta go, Like he's not
thinking about it. If she if she picked anybody else,
he'd be dead.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Jay's very observant. It's a good
poll right there. But yeah, like I think he he
passes to Annie. Now he's just doing that and then
he but I love that he goes home to a
suburban house that's really nice. Yeah, and then I don't know.
I like when they go to the high school. I like.
(34:15):
I like the the investigation of it all, and even
the time when they're at the beach house. They're just chilling,
shooting guns, drinking beer.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, hanging out his dates. He's got a fake name
or house under a fake name, and he's dating Jay,
but he thinks that Annie is still like a target
for the monster. So he's really planning that, playing the
game ahead that he thinks he's safe because Annie's doing
He's just dating Jay because he likes Jay, but he's
(34:44):
doing it more under a fake name. So was he
waiting for Annie to die to then have sex with Jay.
He must have, Yeah, But she had said in the
previous scene that he or he wanted to, that they
hadn't had sex yet and he wanted to, but she
she didn't yet. I think that's in a nerly scene.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I mean he couldn't really write, or did he. Yeah,
I guess he knew at that time that Annie was dead.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, but he But prior to that, he's apparently wanted
to have anyway whatever. Maybe maybe he just maybe he
just will have sex.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Like Jay's chill. I don't know. I like, I don't know.
She handles everything pretty well.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, it's a pretty good situation.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Mike has been in some really good horror movies or
slash kind of horror movies.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Like I.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Like Long Legs, Watcher The Guest, that movie Rules Significant Other.
I love that movie. Great shark work in that.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Jay, Yeah, absolutely great.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Villain's like she's uh, I think she's sort of become
this Oh she's not a movie called Tao, but it's
not very good. But no, she's she's definitely kind of
blown up now. I think Long Legs get her a
pretty good platform.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh, she's gonna be They're doing another Hand that Rocks
the Cradle starring her Merediazbeth Winstead. Hell yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
To horror like Legends Together Mary Elizabeth Webstead Yeah yeah.
When she has seven upcoming films.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
As an upcoming drama called Place to Be that also
stars Ellen burst in Taika Waititi, Lena Waithe and pamr. Anderson.
That's Murray Ramirez. That's the hell of a guest.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
And she's blown up. I kind of feel bad. I
think her first movie is the guest This Watcher.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Tao.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I kind of think movies just sort of said, hey,
stand there and we're gonna film you, like we're gonna
dress you up pretty like that movie. Watch her the
entire marketings around her in that red dress, and then
taw the whole thing, like he just dresses her up
and films her. And then you know the guests, she's like,
you know, wait yourself fit and other things, and they're
just sort of like treating her like like you could
(36:59):
just tell that they just like filming her. So it's
kind of nice that she's coming into her own now
as an actor and doesn't have to like rely on
those roles anymore, Like she can make her own stuff.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah? I didn't realize that she was the daughter in
Independence State Resurgents. Yeah, a film that has been pershed
from my mind, a.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Bad movie, and I feel bad they didn't want to
cast that one girl who was the original daughter. When
they cast like a younger girl. Yeah, not a lot
of waterwork in those movies.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, wait, May Whitman, May Whitman, Oh, May Whitman.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Oh, Scott Pilgrims May Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, huh yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well, uh what else have we got about this?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Boolsy, I think I think we've done the same. Uh yeah,
let's see Wait this was twenty fifteen, right, yeah, twenty fourteen,
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Twenty fourteen. Okay, let's see twenty fourteen horror movies and
those forever ago any good water scenes in twenty fourteen.
I'm looking at Tusk.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Jay, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's the lists, I mean that movie, that movie goes
for it. I watched that movie the day I signed
on my house. I always remember because I had to
leave the theater to talk to somebody. And then Zombieavers.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I haven't seen it. Not water, but it's deep.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Dead snow, a lot of ice. Sure that it wasn't
too much of a water log. Year Unfriended might be
one of the least water like. There's very little water
on that one, I believe you. Okay, Oh, have you
watched Spring?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That movie rolls. I haven't heard of Spring.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Oh man, it's by Justin Benson and Air Morehead, who
did The Endless which has a lake monster, and they
have you watched any other movies.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
They're not ringing about. I'm just having you look.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
No. Yeah, Spring's really good. There's a there's a gooey
alien in it. You know, I love I love who
was a guest. I love the guests. Wolf Cop. That's
another funny one. No, I guess it was really a
wet year.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
The episodes of Low Key that they directed, I've seen
and Moon Night. Yeah, they're good, but I haven't seen
anything else.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Add Spring to the list. It's good.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Okay, we'll do uh, I'll do it for for follows.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
We stretch ourselves. You know, it's crazy. I did a
lot of research, but he hasn't talked much about this
bull scene. He's very open about the movie, but there's
no like, there's not too many facts about it.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, and well, because it's quite aw you kind of
see what they what they did. There's not a lot
of there's not a lot of mystery to us. You know,
she got in the water and they got around the pool,
the monster through some stuff, and there's not a lot
of like did you know that in this scene? Because
like it's on the screen.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, that's true. Still rules though.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, absolutely, it's great. Yeah, so are you gonna think
the plug?
Speaker 1 (40:07):
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That really helps our se o and like people can
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If you're still here, please give us a rate, rating,
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(40:31):
right now. I forget everything if I don't do it immediately.
So just do and Jay knows this.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I'm just so just just go and do it.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Pleak you.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
We appreciate it. We ask you to do that so rarely.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So yeah, yeah, we never do that.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
This is our annual request you to leave us a review.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
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Speaker 2 (40:56):
And you know it's a free podcast.
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Yeah what we have to do.
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Speaker 1 (41:23):
Klewett, Markfmeyer and we'll deep Blue.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
See you next week
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am Mark Yarra Rules Hoffmeyer.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And I am Jay Seashell flip phone Cluet. Welcome you
board Deeply See the podcast that you are as a
sea shell fliphone. On this podcast, we've been through the
entire Deeply See trilogy, scene by scene. We're doing it again,
but we're also looking at some Deeply See adjacent films
and films that have a Deep Blue scene, which is
what we're doing today with It Follows. What is it follows?
It's a twenty fourteen horror thrill up in which Mike
(00:45):
Monroe plays Jay great name, who has sex with a
guy and then he transmits a sexually transmitted monster onto her,
who keeps on wherever she is. This being follows, It
follows it's heading and it will kill her upon arrival
and then head back up the chain to the previous guy.
(01:06):
The scene in question is a climax to that film
where Jay and her friends Paul Yara and her sister
Kelly uh such a hatch a plan hatch to trap
for Jay to stand in the middle of quite a
decent sized swimming pool surrounded by a bunch of electronic
items all plugged in, ready to be thrown into electrocute
(01:27):
the creature or Jay. It's not a good plan. We'll
get we'll get there, but the kids, the creature arrives, hellues,
we're gonna talk about it. So I think, Marky, what
you've been wanting to talk about this scene for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, yeah, I mean, listen, I've been writing like I
love it follows it's It's actually been really good to me.
I wrote about Yara for Cracked I and about supporting
characters who need more love because your rules, and so
does Kelly. They're just like straight up right right or die?
I love I love Kelly Yarra and I Paul wants
(02:00):
to get with Jay, but Paul is still down the
roll too, Like he's he has a little some kind
of dude be like, you know, he likes Jay, but
he's still down to battle on an invisible entity and
get like leveled by the thing.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, Jay kind of picks Greg kind of earlier in
the film. He's like he's he's a little bit annoyed,
but he's not gonna like confront her and say what
right hand? He gets it, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
He still helps. He still helps and like Kelly's like
super cool. She's one who thinks of the sheet and
the scene we're going to talk about. Yara's just out
here reading her her little reader and farting and getting
shot and.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So many shots. She's just asleep, just.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Just sleeping and on a raft, strategically strategic rafting. Like
she's just the best. So you know, I dig her
and also back I think twenty eighteen, I figured out
how far the creature follows, and it follows, and I'm
mapped because Detroit's character in the film, so I mapped
exactly where Jay went and it went. Then I created
a map that I came up with a timeline, and
(03:03):
I came up with the creature traveled about one thousand,
one thousand, seven hundred and seventeen miles Oney seventeen miles,
And like a couple of the producers reached out to
me and said I was right, which is awesome. And
then you know, it could it could blow up in
my face with the sequels, but you know, then that
got me a job with film theory. Then I wrote
about how to defeat it for them, and it's just
been a movie that has been really good to be Jay,
(03:25):
and it had swimming pools and you know, a lot
of water. There's a lot of water in this movie.
This is a water heavy horror film.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It is like I watched it for the first time
last year, just just on a whim, and he had
told me, like, we're going to talk about the pool
scene one day, and I didn't know what the pool
scene was at that point. And there are so many
pool scenes in this film. Like the first the second
scene is she's hanging out in a pool. Oh is
this it? Is it peaking early? Is this film? Like
we like this pool scene?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
But no?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And then later in the film she's hanging out with
the pool again. There's a bunch of scenes by the ocean.
And then then when we entered the pool scene, I
was like, yeah, this, this is probably the pool scene.
It's one right at the end. So yeah, I was
kind of spent the whole film like pussy, pussy, pussy,
and they're all great. This was I think. I think
(04:14):
this was my favorite first time watch of last year.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Oh that's awesome, you know. David Rodford Mitchell, he did
an a m A on Reddit and he said that
water is incredibly important. He says he's not going to
explain it, but water's so all In the beginning, Annie,
she goes to the beach and dies. She gets folded up,
which is horrifying. Yeah, then you have j in a
swimming pool. But then you see a photo of Jay
(04:39):
in a swimming pool in her room. And then she's
at a movie theater and her dad is given has
given his kid water. They focus it on that, and
then then they go on a date by the water,
and then she's like, hey, I need water. And then
when she's at college, there's a T. S. Elliott poem
that mentions waves and sees. Then there's painting a wave
(05:00):
in her home. They're watching what Godzilla with all the
waves like creature coming out of the water. And then
the girl comes into her house drip in water, her
empty swimming her her above ground swimming pool becomes an
empty above ground swimming pool. Then she goes into the
to that boat in the water, and then she goes
to the lake house by the water, and then it's
raining during the pool scene, and then later on when
(05:21):
she pulls spoilers looks up with Paul, it's raining. So
there's just a lot of water in this movie. Yeah,
and also Under the Silver Lake is wet to his
other movie. I haven't watched The Myth of American sleepover
a lot of water. I mean there's there's a lake,
there's silver there's lakes. He smells the whole time, which
is kind of interesting. There's a pool is very important.
(05:42):
And Under the Silver Lake, so yeah, I mean David
Robert Mitchell is all about that water and it makes
me happy.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Is he doing I didn't realize that that they follow
had been announced. I'd say he doing that too.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So yeah, I think so. He's been in director's jail
for a little bit because of Under the Silver Lake,
which is crazy because I think the budget was like
four million, and I think to go to director's jail
you need to you need to at least make an
eighty million dollar movie that makes twelve million. I don't.
I don't understand director's jail for a four million dollar movie,
but somehow happened. But he's back. He's going to do
(06:17):
they live or they follow? Hey, they live? They they
followed it? They live to follow?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean if they follow is is they live? But
with it it follows monster? Then yeah, I'm hit for it.
That'd be great consume a massive long fight with this
invisible imagine they live but Keith invisible.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And then the creature turns into Keith Keith David and
mica Ah Monroe just has to battle it for about now. Yeah,
so this was your like you weren't turned off by
you weren't turned off you know it follows. I think
was quite divisive when it came out because people, you know,
they I think people didn't like I'll patientate, Well, it
(07:00):
doesn't explain much, but you love it when you watch.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I duggle that like it. You can tell it's
a low budget film, but they kind of they use
that well, like the monster is just hey, it's a person.
It could be anyone. It's just a person. And sometimes
there's no one. You can't see anyone there, which the
cheapest monster you can have.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And like the cinematography is is it's it's like it's
slow paced a lot. There's a lot of shots whereas
just the camera is kind of in one place and
just kind of spinning. And that it does that well
because it's just like scanning. It's it's kind of the
paranormatuity thing you're looking you're looking for what's there and
what's not there, And the camera pans and you see, oh,
there is someone walking in the distance, but I could
(07:41):
just be a person. And the camera keeps panning again,
and they're now they're closer, and they're still walking in
the same line. That's probably the monster that someone needs.
Someone needs to see this person as. I think that
that's that's all done very well. The actings will great,
the characters, you know, I have no problems with this
one at all. I like how it's explained enough. Yeah,
you pick it up in bits, you like, only they
(08:01):
can see it. It's gonna keep coming, the whole lineage
thing passing on through his acts, et cetera. I can like,
you're fed to crumbs as much as you need. I
don't need to know anything more. Is it dead at
the end?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I hope.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I mean there's a sequel, so maybe not, but I hope. So.
I prefer films where they kind of sort it out.
That's what annoys me with the Halloween films, though Michael
Mosley's still alive at the end. He should be dead,
but he's still alive. What are we doing then?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Just sort it out?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
And that's true though, because I think the reason they're
going back to they follow is because you just sometimes
you just got to go back to the well to
get a movie made. Sure, and so let's say it's good,
but then you're just gonna invent more lore. But you're right.
The nice thing about this movie is when Hugh or
that you know, that's his fake name, tells Jay what's
going on. It's not totally forced expository dialogue because you're like, listen,
(08:55):
I'm telling you to save you. Yeah, and it's you
would maybe tell somebody that. So it's kind of interesting
that they pick up the bread crumbs. And also the
things behavior is quite interesting. And I read on the
m A A m A David Robert Mitchell said that
this thing could get on an airplane, but it has
a form, so it can't just like sit in first
class on a sold out flight.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Canone sit on it?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Can it?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Can it sit?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Can it sit?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So it's always they say, like wherever you are, at
any point in time, it's walking towards you, and we
see it stood still certain times, I guess it probably can't.
When it goes in and gets Greg, it kind of
climbs through his window.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, it breaks a window to go out, so it
can't pick a lock.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Oh maybe it's just easy to break a window.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, but I like that it has to break through things.
It can't. It can't like you know, skip through things
or more through things. So like it can't just sit
on a bus. So it's it's pretty. And then this one,
I think it just walk yeah, based on like where
they are, and the math kind of works out, which
is kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Nothing. I feel like, I feel like it could get
on a boat. I feel like it could always just
be doing laps of a cruise ship just like deck
just all the time, because you can walk on to
you can walk onto a plane, but you can walk
onto a boat when you can keep walking the whole time.
Whereas if you're walking up and down the aisle of
a plane, someone's gonna well, I guess they can't. They
can't see it.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So it's gonna on it, right because if you touch it,
you get a hell of a bird.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, so it's got to keep on like scooting around
people in the aisle.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
It's just like, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
Does it do butt or cross the question? But yeah,
I don't know there's enough there to understand it, and
then there's enough there to not But I like that.
I like that's just some ambiguity, but you also have
(10:56):
a pretty firm understanding of what the thing is. And
it's a brilliant idea for a movie because you know,
the things just following you wherever you are. It's walking
towards you, and that sucks. Yeah, And also I like
that it doesn't drive a Ford Bronco across Michigan to
get to Jay. That would demystify it completely. You just
know that's walking towards you. It's gonna get to you.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, it's it's like the heightening the zombie thing. Like
the zombies, they're slow, they're walking, They're coming for you eventually.
This is just slow. We'll get that.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And even if you you know, passing it along does
is not smart because if it just keeps getting passed along,
it's gonna come back to you eventually. So then you're
just waiting.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, but maybe, I mean if you can't if you
can't kill it and can't think of a way to
kill it, then you're you're always always running, whereas if
you pass it, if you pass it along to somebody.
I mean, when she passes it on, pass on to
Pool Pool, we didn't see him drive past like a
sex worker. Not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
If you're you're not going to know where it is though,
I yeah, but I feel but hm hmm. You're in
the bathroom of like a burger king and then the
thing corners you. That'd be horrifying. I'd rather know where
it is. Yeah, keep it very just a horrible schedule
and just keep it every day and then figure the
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thing out.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I feel like you need to have a colleague, you
need to pass it on to somebody else, have a
team member so two of you can see it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Is.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
This is the problem they get into with a lot
of these scenes, is that only Jay can see it.
Mm hm no one else can. So once she's you know,
she passed it on to Pool, that she then has
a cohort. No, we like, we can go back to
back and we can definitely see it coming. You can
just sleep in shifts.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And they can go back to back from Deep Blue
Sea two.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Absolutely, Yeah, with the play guns, that's it. If you
if you if you have a good group of friends
that you're like quite close with, pass it on.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
To all of them. You. Oh, no, you'll get it jesually,
have some fun.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, and just if you pass on to somebody, if
they then have can they pass it back to you
so you'll then like top of it. I don't know
if it works in terms of like if you, if you,
if you had sex an even number of times, it's
on them a odd number of times it's on you.
I don't know how the how the chain works. That's it.
(13:25):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, and then in fighting starts and then.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It just half the monsters your turn.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah exactly, No, yeah, wait, why are you leaving me
with this? Like that would just get ugly? Could you
take like a paintball gun with you or or oh
take a bag of flower, a bucket of water and
a bag of flower and some tar, tar and feathers. Yeah,
like what that's like if the thing comes at you
(13:52):
you have a paintball gun which is in your back
and highly unpractical, or just something where you can mark it.
Would it stay marked? Actually, all the all the people
probably would see the paint then because it's on this fork.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
But then it's interesting, we never see it. We never
see it change from one being to another, never see
an animal, So whether whether that would like the morphing
would change what's on it because it's wearing different clothes
and different similar but different clothes and she can only.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
See it correct, So that's I mean, it's worth trying.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, absolutely, it's worth trying.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Just get him, like walking him middle of a football field.
Have a friend with a big truck hit it. What
would happen?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I mean, it seems very strong. I reckon it would.
It would be knocked down by the truck, but the
truck would also probably take quite a bit of damage
because when it punches Pool on the beach, he goes flying. Yeah,
he sails out of the show.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And the beach scene. It wings the TV too, like
it really does. But yeah, it's interesting. It never jumps
over movie theater seats or any like when it's in
the theater. It's not gonna it's not gonna do a
running dive onto you. No, it's just because I don't
think it wants people knowing it's there.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I think it. I get the feeling the monster
feeds off of the the craziness, the or like the
other people thinking the person that's following is not all there.
They want they want that disorder, that disorientation. If other
people know it's there, then the chick us up.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
If you're in like a football game packed stadium, if
you're in a pack stadium anywhere that's not too loud,
people can reasonably hear what's going on. What it get you.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Good depends on how how observant you are.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
And then when everyone around just be like, what has
happened that getting folded?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Would it choose to get you? I see, yeah, I
thought you meant like, what could you could be distracted
by renown going on? Uh? Well, I don't know, because
it's not like a mindless machine. Because it gets to
the pool and it stops and it picks things up
and chucks into the pool rather than just getting into
the pool. I think at that point they think it's
(16:15):
some like mindless force. It's going to just keep coming,
and so it will get to the pool and it
will just wade straight in. But so yeah, I think
if it's at the crowded stadium, then it would probably
wait pick its moment. It just like stand there creepily
watching guys like the The various forms of the monster
are all pretty creepy, but for me, just the naked
(16:36):
guy stood on the roof is like the most unsettling image.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I think this is it's a jerk. And imagine if
you're playing football, American football, and you're you somehow contracted
it and you're just running down for a touchdown and
then you just run right into it and everyone's like,
what's like, what happened? Gets ripped the park on a field?
Would it wear a football player's uniform the creature.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think to get to the player, either that or
like a referee uniform maybe just like someone who's allowed
to be on the pitch.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, and so you're not thinking about it too much,
or like they got the water boy on the team. Sure, yeah, yeah,
we're going levels here. Swimming pool scene.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Swimming pool scene. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So you think it's a doune plan.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think, well, they haven't looked into how the electricity
is going to work in a body of water that big.
For one thing, because it's a it's a big body
of water and it's a relatively small amount of electricity.
I'm not suggesting listeners should try this. They shouldn't. Don't
do this. If they maybe if they chucked all of
(17:49):
the items in at the same time, it's still just
one building's electricity. So yeah, I don't think it's a
good plan in terms of functioning. And also if it
were to work, at what point is Jay getting out
of the water because she stood in the middle of
the pool. Is like, they're just supposed to start coming
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in and she immediately heads out because if the creature
sees that, the creatures going to immediately head out as well.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
True, maybe maybe they thought it was one track minded.
You're right, it would just flop into the water.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's going to keep heading towards her. And so she
has stood the other side of the pool, and the
creatures in the pool is going to keep coming across
the pool to get her, is what they probably thought
it would happen. But that's that's incorrect, and instead they
have provided They've put Jay in a very vulnerable position
in the middle of a pool, surrounded by very throwable objects.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Man, poor j and but these you know what, though,
even if the plan is wonky, I do like that
they try it, Yes, absolutely, yeah, I like that Yara
and Kelly and and my gosh, Paul try It's so refresheating,
(19:05):
you know, movies like Smile and other films they deliberately,
which I like. I like both of them, but they
they they the monsters separate people from others, like, oh
you're crazy, Oh you've lost your mind. We need to
get you help. And then they run away and they
isolate them. I like that this didn't happen, and I
like that our Scooby gang here is just Jay, her sister,
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her flatuan friend, Yara, and Paul.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
This guy who's kissed two of them.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, little little Paul. But then they're running around with
guns and I like that. Kelly comes through with the sheet, like,
I respect that scene. And then, you know, to Paul's credit,
he just walks up and tags the thing in the
back of the head. He's shoot this little sucker.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
He gets in the hand first. The first time I
watched it, when he shot Yarra accidentally, I was like, whoa, whoa.
I did not see that. I don't know how I
didn't see that coming. I was locked in and I
just just shoots. He's shooting a spitting visible across a pool.
He hits his friend, and.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I love that. When she's in the hospital later, she's
still reading her clamshell and she's just drinking juice.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean, what else you gonna do the dream?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, well no, it's just not I like that the
sisters are supportive. I mean, we got to talk about
the mom because she's just never around, very sad mom
in this movie, she's just looking at walls.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
This is I mean, this is one of those like
Tea or like I just watched all the Funnest Nation
films as have you recently, and there's there's very few
parents in those films. They're they're in some of them,
but not all of them. Three is mainly kids.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
No parents, then they're not worth a toss if they
are in it. So it's I guess that's fair, but
I I don't know. I I think the swimming pool's
scene is fun because one it limits the locations. It
keeps things on a budget. It's an indoor pool, so
if you already have lighting inside of it, just chuck
some lights in it. You can keep it pretty cheap.
(21:00):
And you know, I think David Robert Mitchell just likes
filming Micah Monroe in pools, so that works for him.
And then I don't know, I you know what's interesting.
The music is just wonderful in this scene. Disaster pieces
like you're jesuise. This is intense and no. I love
(21:22):
the music pumping, I love the storm. Yaa gets shot,
you're bummed out. Kelly comes through, the thing gets tagged
in the head, the huge blood puddle at the end.
But some people have a theory that it's weakened in
water because he tags it in the head and it
comes back. But then when he gets shot in the
head in the water, it goes, oh, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I mean it could also be because that's the second
time it's been shot in there.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point, Jay. I mean, how
many bullet shots get you know, how many bullet holes
can you have in the entity's head? I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Maybe two, more than one, it seems. Yeah, it gets
shot in the hand and belly flinches. Yeah, this this
thing is a beast.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I love that it's pointing at Paul's get away and
get away from and he doesn't attack Paul. That's what's
interesting again, e But I like that it's not going
It can't. I don't know if it can go after
the three when it's going after her, like, it's not
interested in them. If it gets close, he's gonna knock
you thirty feet. Yeah, Paul gets leveled. You know, there's
(22:33):
a lot of people almost getting shot in this movie too,
by accident. There's a scene at the beach. Oh yeah, Greg, Yeah,
Greg almost gets tagged. Poor little Yarra gets gets shot.
But I mean, I think that's what happened. If a
kid grab a gun and just start shooting it.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Sure, yeah, I do like that he doesn't. The four
of them don't feel very skilled. They just kind of
feel like normal people. Like what we do, what we got,
like dad's gun and like an iron and O TV.
That's what can we do with that? Check it in
the pool? And and it's just like when when the
creature eyes, what j is supposed to do is like
(23:12):
point at it and she's like, my god, it's here.
Everyone's hair. It's hair, it's hair, like pointing at it.
The plan to the plan. But they're they're they're kids.
They're like kids who don't know. So yeah, and they
pull it off and they put it off.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Do you do you believe that? Like the so the
swimming pool that Jay's in, it's kind of like her
safe place. There's kind of neighbor kids kind of checking
her out. It's kind of her place of like isolation,
even though she's sitting feels what is it like one
of those what what? What's the thing that they do
in a minority of report when they're just in the water.
It's like a like isolation to the water therapy.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Or something sense sensory deprivation.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, like that seems like her place. And then I
think the creature probably destroys it, so it takes away
her safety, happy place. What a di And then I
like that in the pool, yeah that's true. But in
the pool later on, you know, like that's they took
that away, and so that's like, yeah, your comfort zone
is gone. So then they go to another pool and get.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Them big, bigger pool. You take away my school pool,
Come to a big pool?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Are you in the metaphors and movies? Like when when
a movie tries to because Robert Mitchell said water stands
or something in this movie, and I maybe I'm stupid,
but you know, I don't really read. I don't really
care to read movies like that. I just enjoy watching them.
But did do you ever read on what water stands for?
In this movie? I mean, kids are drinking water, she's
(24:40):
drinking water, and he dies by the water. Jay's by
the water multiple times. There's swimming pools, there's paintings of waves.
When they watch TV, you see the water, Like, what's
what are we missing?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
The food is that there's there's so much and it's
so kind of inconsistent as to where it is and
what what form it's in. That's a it's a frustrating
quote from from Mitchell. Oh yeah, what it means something.
Not going to tell you what, but it means something. Okay,
he's a rat when it.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Comes that stuff. I have to talk about Under the
Silver Lake And there's so many codes in that movie
that people have followed, and I don't want to wreck anything,
but it's just it's almost not even worth it when
a lot of time because like, I'm not going to
tell you what it is, Like, well, I don't really
care about figuring it out.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, I'm going through David Lynch's stuff at the moment.
That's a lot of that in there as well.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm not gonna tell you, Okay, Well I'm not gonna
waste time on it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah. Well, I mean some filmmakers will say it's not
up to them to that it means something to them,
but it might mean something else to the viewer and
figure it out for yourself, which is all well and good,
but I feel like you made the film, so what
how you what you what it means to you is
the right thing. That's what's the correction what it means
(25:56):
to you? And so I'm staying there guessing, and like,
I can't flip to the back of the book and
see what the answer is because you won't, bloody you
tell us, so I don't. It's not even it turns
out no me neither.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's you know, I just let movies wash over me.
I know some people watch movies kind of they want
to make fun of them. They want to figure them out,
they want to get the clues they're looking for Easter eggs.
Like for me, the first time I watch a movie,
I just wanted to wash over me, if that makes sense.
I don't want to I just want to watch it.
I just want to enjoy it. I don't want to
(26:30):
be looking around for everything or trying to figure out
what this like, you know, you know, like I love
the Babba Doo, but you know, I know what it's
going for, but I'm not trying to figure that out
the first time I'm watching it, if that makes sense,
Like I wanna like Donna dead, Like I know it's
all about consumerism, but I just want to watch when
I was younger, Like I just want to absorb the
thing and then think about the themes later.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That would I've seen it once and I was on
a plane, which is the wrong wait place to see
the But so I just I barely even watched it.
What is it about? I don't know. I didn't repay attention,
So I diah, that's that's bad.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Brief trauma, probably depression, children, all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But you know, I should give it another shot. Not
on a plane, not in a brightly lit people were
on me talking the whole time. I just give it
a show.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I do love I do love a plane movie.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Though there are a genre of films of his plane movies.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, basically, but you know, it sucks. Dela's been playing
good movies lately, good indies, right, And I'm not saying
it sucks, but typically you want to watch something stupid
like Taking Three, but all of a sudden you're like,
oh man, they got this movie, like I didn't even
get to see this yet, and then you go like
red Rooms, I watched Red Rooms on a plane and
(27:52):
then I bought it and watch on a bigger screen.
But that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
All right, there's people out there. How long is the
flight for six?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
That was great?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I can just about watch the brutalist Let's go.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well man, So you know that was her dad right
when you walked into the pool.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I read the Wikipedia page and it said that. Okay,
I didn't realize that either time that I watched it,
because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's not important, is it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I haven't seen her dad any I'm guessing he's in
a photo at some point.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, he's in a photo. Yeah, yeah, there's a photo
of him with her at a pool. There's a lot
of pool work.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, a lot of pool Yeah. I mean it's true,
there is, it's true.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Any other thoughts about this scene?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Uh, the it really clocks it with an iron. I mean,
the first couple of throwers, it's getting his arm in.
Once it gets his arm in, she is toast. She
is probably with a toast. That was I'm sorry. I
likeiful it gets up with a TV, you know, it's
(29:03):
this is just a real bad setup for Jada being
I'm stuck here all this stuff. It's just being thrown
at me. It's very strong creature. What have we done?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Swimming with the cast can't be easy?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Sure, I mean she's and she's then it's it's not
deep water, she can stand up. I think, Oh, there's
a shot. I like how the scene kind of starts
where you know, the creature's kind of coming down the
back pools, get the POV of it. Then you cut
to jay Stad in the pool, but shot from underwater,
so you can't see her head and it's like mirrored
(29:38):
on the surface of the water, so she looks like
just some monster. Look, there's some like headless, mirrored eight
limbed thing underwater. I think it's a really great shot.
It's simple that it's effective. I think it works really well.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Oh, the whole scene's gorgeous, just her in the pool,
like even the blood when it pops up. There's a
great shot of her in the pool where she's kind
of just up and then like there's the I don't
know what it is behind her, the lanes I guess
from the pool, like just right behind Like that's just
such an iconic thing. And then she starts pointing that's
(30:12):
a that's an iconic shot.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I think, and then poor Yarra, I do appreciate all
of the kind of the waiting that they do, like
just like go to the pool and we're off. They
go to the pool, they set up and like, well,
now what do we do? We gotta this thing's walking,
so we'll be here a while. I guess everyone just
kind of keep ahead on this pool. Uh, just hang
(30:35):
out here.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
When do you think it's gonna come? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, they didn't. They didn't work out the walking speed
that you did. I think.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, that monster shot is pretty great though, when her
head it looks like her shoulders are connected.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, I mean this movie rule Like, you know, I
love this movie. I do.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I think atil was it one point three million?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, it's such a good idea, like something is always
following you, and and Jay's a good kid, and I
hate what Hugh did to her, but then her family's
cool with her. It's such It really does subvert a
lot of what's the word horror tropes? I think, and
(31:21):
it but it still makes you very uneasy because you
know the thing's always coming after you. And I dig that.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I mean today horror tropes. Pooland Yard should have died regular, Yah,
they should, like the Pool shouldn't be alive at the end,
he's Scoggin's.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You know, even Greg isn't a bad dude, Like he's oblivious,
but he's not a is he He's not a bad dude.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I think he's fine. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, he shows up and he's like drive and then
she's like, hey, I'll pass it on to you. And
who knows if he believes it or not.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
But he's Wolden. He's been told the two and he's
still like, yeah, sure, let's go have sex in a hospital.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I have all of your energy sucked out by your
mom monster. That's an interesting death. Jay, Yeah, that is
very just sucked. But you know, I really like what
you said too. Jay never becomes a brat. I think
he just internalizes a lot of it. I just think it's, oh, Paul, sorry,
(32:29):
I'm mixing up my names here and I'm looking. I
have the names right in front of right here.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I'm right here, and I'm Jay.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, that's true. But it's and I like where it ends.
I like the music. It's it's one of those movies
that deserves all the praise. It's getting like I think,
I think it's unique. I think it's quite simple and
it's very high concept too, which I like. And I
think when you keep things simple like that, you can
make you can have more time, like waiting at the pool,
(32:58):
you can have that. And like when they go hunting
for for a Hugh slash Jeff, Yeah, like they find
his house, they find the the the like he's rigged
the entire house to get out of there. And then
they go to his family's house and he's just like
a kid. He's like, I didn't mean to hurt you
as him, come on, bro, but.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
It was like personal, Like he didn't pick her specifically,
It's just like he wanted to puzzle onto someone.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh man, and he's done it before he passes to Annie.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, sure, how long has he been doing because.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
He knows, he knows a lot about it, so he's
clearly survived this thing for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But he, I mean, he gets lazy, like when the
cinema and she says, oh, yeah, they got on the
other address and it's it's at that moment he goes
like wait what hang, we gotta go, Like he's not
thinking about it. If she if she picked anybody else,
he'd be dead.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Jay's very observant. It's a good
poll right there. But yeah, like I think he he
passes to Annie. Now he's just doing that and then
he but I love that he goes home to a
suburban house that's really nice. Yeah, and then I don't know.
I like when they go to the high school. I like.
(34:15):
I like the the investigation of it all, and even
the time when they're at the beach house. They're just chilling,
shooting guns, drinking beer.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, hanging out his dates. He's got a fake name
or house under a fake name, and he's dating Jay,
but he thinks that Annie is still like a target
for the monster. So he's really planning that, playing the
game ahead that he thinks he's safe because Annie's doing
He's just dating Jay because he likes Jay, but he's
(34:44):
doing it more under a fake name. So was he
waiting for Annie to die to then have sex with Jay.
He must have, Yeah, But she had said in the
previous scene that he or he wanted to, that they
hadn't had sex yet and he wanted to, but she
she didn't yet. I think that's in a nerly scene.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I mean he couldn't really write, or did he. Yeah,
I guess he knew at that time that Annie was dead.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, but he But prior to that, he's apparently wanted
to have anyway whatever. Maybe maybe he just maybe he
just will have sex.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Like Jay's chill. I don't know. I like, I don't know.
She handles everything pretty well.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, it's a pretty good situation.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Mike has been in some really good horror movies or
slash kind of horror movies.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Like I.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Like Long Legs, Watcher The Guest, that movie Rules Significant Other.
I love that movie. Great shark work in that.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Jay, Yeah, absolutely great.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Villain's like she's uh, I think she's sort of become
this Oh she's not a movie called Tao, but it's
not very good. But no, she's she's definitely kind of
blown up now. I think Long Legs get her a
pretty good platform.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh, she's gonna be They're doing another Hand that Rocks
the Cradle starring her Merediazbeth Winstead. Hell yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
To horror like Legends Together Mary Elizabeth Webstead Yeah yeah.
When she has seven upcoming films.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
As an upcoming drama called Place to Be that also
stars Ellen burst in Taika Waititi, Lena Waithe and pamr. Anderson.
That's Murray Ramirez. That's the hell of a guest.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
And she's blown up. I kind of feel bad. I
think her first movie is the guest This Watcher.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Tao.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I kind of think movies just sort of said, hey,
stand there and we're gonna film you, like we're gonna
dress you up pretty like that movie. Watch her the
entire marketings around her in that red dress, and then
taw the whole thing, like he just dresses her up
and films her. And then you know the guests, she's like,
you know, wait yourself fit and other things, and they're
just sort of like treating her like like you could
(36:59):
just tell that they just like filming her. So it's
kind of nice that she's coming into her own now
as an actor and doesn't have to like rely on
those roles anymore, Like she can make her own stuff.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah? I didn't realize that she was the daughter in
Independence State Resurgents. Yeah, a film that has been pershed
from my mind, a.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Bad movie, and I feel bad they didn't want to
cast that one girl who was the original daughter. When
they cast like a younger girl. Yeah, not a lot
of waterwork in those movies.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, wait, May Whitman, May Whitman, Oh, May Whitman.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Oh, Scott Pilgrims May Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, huh yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well, uh what else have we got about this?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Boolsy, I think I think we've done the same. Uh yeah,
let's see Wait this was twenty fifteen, right, yeah, twenty fourteen,
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Twenty fourteen. Okay, let's see twenty fourteen horror movies and
those forever ago any good water scenes in twenty fourteen.
I'm looking at Tusk.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Jay, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's the lists, I mean that movie, that movie goes
for it. I watched that movie the day I signed
on my house. I always remember because I had to
leave the theater to talk to somebody. And then Zombieavers.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I haven't seen it. Not water, but it's deep.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Dead snow, a lot of ice. Sure that it wasn't
too much of a water log. Year Unfriended might be
one of the least water like. There's very little water
on that one, I believe you. Okay, Oh, have you
watched Spring?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That movie rolls. I haven't heard of Spring.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Oh man, it's by Justin Benson and Air Morehead, who
did The Endless which has a lake monster, and they
have you watched any other movies.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
They're not ringing about. I'm just having you look.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
No. Yeah, Spring's really good. There's a there's a gooey
alien in it. You know, I love I love who
was a guest. I love the guests. Wolf Cop. That's
another funny one. No, I guess it was really a
wet year.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
The episodes of Low Key that they directed, I've seen
and Moon Night. Yeah, they're good, but I haven't seen
anything else.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Add Spring to the list. It's good.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Okay, we'll do uh, I'll do it for for follows.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
We stretch ourselves. You know, it's crazy. I did a
lot of research, but he hasn't talked much about this
bull scene. He's very open about the movie, but there's
no like, there's not too many facts about it.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, and well, because it's quite aw you kind of
see what they what they did. There's not a lot
of there's not a lot of mystery to us. You know,
she got in the water and they got around the pool,
the monster through some stuff, and there's not a lot
of like did you know that in this scene? Because
like it's on the screen.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, that's true. Still rules though.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, absolutely, it's great. Yeah, so are you gonna think
the plug?
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, just I don't know movies on the flicks. Listen
to that. Listen to us rate, rate, review, and subscribe, y'all.
That really helps our se o and like people can
pull from the reviews and they'll just yeah, we just listen.
If you're still here, please give us a rate, rating,
review or a subscription. Just please just just do it
(40:31):
right now. I forget everything if I don't do it immediately.
So just do and Jay knows this.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I'm just so just just go and do it.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Pleak you.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
We appreciate it. We ask you to do that so rarely.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So yeah, yeah, we never do that.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
This is our annual request you to leave us a review.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
We're actually pretty chill about pushing people to do things
for the show.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
And you know it's a free podcast.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah what we have to do.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
So yes, find us on deeply se pod at some there,
find us everywhere at deeply Sea pod on social media,
or email us deep pod at gmail dot com. Any
of the pool scenes you think we should cover, then
let us know next week is it's going to be
another episode of deep so come back next week for
that absolute But as for this week, as for it follows,
I have been Jake.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Klewett, Markfmeyer and we'll deep Blue.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
See you next week
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