Episode 255 (Shark Attack - 1999)

Jay is joined by Amanda Kirkham ( @hollywood_consumer on Instagram) to dive into another fishy franchise featuring cancer-resistant sharks being used to save lives but also making them more aggressive and also being released in 1999, it's Shark Attack! On this episode they discuss sick day movies, superfluous rock climbing and the hierarchy of villains, plus we explore the depths of Amanda's month of shark movies!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast. I
am J. Klewer. On this show, we've into the entire
Deep Blue Sea trilogy, scene by scene I A n
but not today. Today we're talking about another Deep Blue
sy adjacent film. What we which about today, well today
is is stop me to sound similiar. It's a nineteen
ninety nine film in which sharks the sharks of inability

(00:35):
to have cancer. It makes a scientist medically test on
them to try and cure diseases, and in doing so
makes the sharks more aggressive. It is the nineteen ninety
nine film Shark Attack, which actually came out before Deep
but Us is the same same logic and science. This
is a TV movie directed by Bob Mizerowski apologies, and

(01:01):
stars Casper Van Deen and Ernie Hudson were the two
names I recognized as being in It also have Bentley
Mitcham and Jenny McShane as a makeup two of the
primary cast in it. Casper Van Dean plays Stephen McCrae,
who is a rock climbing shark expert scientist who comes

(01:22):
to a town in South Africa two when there's too
many shark attacks there, so he comes and visits his
friend has been killed, Andie Hudson plays Lawrence Rose, who's
like a hotel real estate magnate in the town. There's well,
we'll get into it. So we've got a guest today
who she's been on the show before. She was on
for a DeepC chapter in our first run, and she's

(01:45):
maybe one of the few people I know who has
definitely seen more Shark films than I have this year
because she just spent a whole month watching shark films
from all over consumer. It's Amanda Kirk, come a madam,
Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hi, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Thrilled to have you back. Let's let's let's talk about
this month of sharks before get into choc attack. Will
provoked you to do this? Was it the Jewels fifty
fi anniversary inspired you for it?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
It was a little bit a little bit that, but
also I'm a big Shark Week fan, and I think
about ten years ago I did on my YouTube channel
all the time, which I haven't kept up with in
like five years. I did a series of shark movie
reviews for Shark Week, like anticipating leading up to it,
and I just thought, let me do something like that again,

(02:30):
I'll watch a whole bunch of movies. It'll be like
I have. I have a Christmas Movie Advent calendar. I've
done a horror movie Advent calendar during October. So I thought, well,
let me do a Shark Movie Advent calendar for Shark Week.
So I ended up, I think, with twenty seven films.
I have not yet actually watched any Shark Week content.

(02:55):
Now that it's all streaming on HBO, it's been a
lot easier to not catch up on it. But yeah,
that's that's the thought process behind all the movies.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Fair enough, So the films that you picked this year
you did send me the list, were there any that
you you haven't seen before? Any any what, any that
you haven't seen before that were great that you like?
This was fantastic that you did watch Some that we've
covered on the show that were lesser. Yeah, we'll get
to one later in this episode of But whether you

(03:26):
like surprises, any that stood out to you as being recommendable?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, there were there were quite a few. Actually. That
was another reason that I decided to do this, was
to try to get in a bunch of things that
I hadn't seen before. There was a lot that was
not good, but I think one that I particularly liked
was Under Paris. That was a lot of fun, and
I liked that it was also in French. Not a

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lot of foreign language films for foreign language shark films.
And then there was another one that I've watched. I'm
just looking at my list. Oh, there were a couple
of documentaries. There was Shark Exploitation, which is all about
this shark movie phenomenon that was that was a lot

(04:14):
of fun. There was the Jaws at fifty documentary, which
I've pretty much seen every documentary there is about Jaws,
but this was fun. I think it's the first one
to feature more Steven Spielberg content than like the very
first sort of documentary that they had as part of

(04:36):
the extras on the laser disc. So that was fun.
And then the other one that I liked and I'm
trying to remember.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Was Blue Water White Death. Is that the show? Is
that the documentary?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's a documentary that one? Have you seen it now
or No?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I haven't seen that one. I haven't seen Jewels at
fifty yet either, but we have covered because I'm coming
with you, like I feel like i've seen everything I
need to know about. I've seen the play, I've seen
I know, I've seen the film a bunch. But we
had Steven Scott Attahs, one of the directors of shots Portation.
We had him on last year to talk about that,
and yeah, we love shots Portation, Like I went through

(05:17):
that making notes of all these films we need to
cover now. Yeah, we actually got some of the some
of the talking heads from that are going to be
on the show soon to talk about chapters.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
So that's awesome, you know. So blue Water White Death,
that's John and I forget her name, Taylor. It's actually
the people who shot the live shark footage that was
used in Jaws. It's their documentary. And the whole thing
is like, it was the first time that in Great

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White I'd been captured on film. It's I it's not,
it's how do I describe that? It's basically ony minutes
of people bitching at each other on a boat for
like five minutes of stark of Great White footage.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Fair enough, it was.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
It was a little boring, and especially now that we've
got things like Shark Week and all of these other
shark documentaries and things, it just was I have to
try to respect it for being the first of its kind.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
But yeah, yeah, OK, it's been we have better stuff now,
it's been exceeded, superseded. Oh yeah, on your list, you know,
the only films that you covered that I haven't seen,
still haven't seen, is was the Shark Attack franchise. I think.
I'm just looking at the list now. Yeah, And that's

(06:43):
when I saw that you were covering them. I was like, great,
we haven't covered them yet. And when I see that,
message was like, great, we can cover the first one,
was like, I don't have that. It's not streaming anyway.
I found the second hand copy of the trilogy. I
haven't found Shark Zone yet, but I went in, so
I hadn't seen any of them at all. What I
know about is one line of dialogue from Shark Attack

(07:04):
three Megaladon. I'm sure you know the one. We'll get
to the Yeah, we'll cover that at some point, but
not not today. And so I had no idea what
was going to happen, where it was going to go.
Did you know much about Shark Attack before you?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I did not. I So it's funny you mentioned the
DVD set because the reason that I added it to
my list. Is because I got the Blu ray set
in like a five dollars at Walmart and it included
Shark Zone. So it's got the three Shark Attack movies
and Shark Zone. And I said, well, it's shark movies.
Let me let me go ahead and and watch them.

(07:40):
And I, yeah, I did a marithion because I was
catching up on all of my movies. And I think
I watched all three Shark Attacks and Shark Zone in
the same day. Sure, it was a little much not
to mention that I was sick at the time. So okay,
oh no, but I've rewatched Shark Tack so that I

(08:01):
could have a better like view of it.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yea, I hear people. I don't know if you want
tho people that has like a sick day movie, like
when you're home from work sticking up. This is my
comfort watch. I'll watch that. I don't. I always watch
new stuff, like I've got so many films. I need
to come up in a better watch the new stuff,
catch up with it. Last time I was, I was
off sick from work recently and I watched a hot
Spring Shark Attack a new film is yeah, and I

(08:25):
freaking freaking loved it.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
One of my I have to add that one because
I haven't heard of that one.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
You know. It's it's new this year. It's Japanese is
I think seventy minutes long in total, and it's one
of the best. It's nuts. It's absolutely bonkers.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
It starts out being like there's sharks in a hot
spring at a hotel, and it goes there's so much
plot on this as an cole Man kind of character
who shows up a bunch of times. They go into
a submarine and eat some marine sandwich is in a submarine.
It's you know, it's insane and I loved it. So yeah,
check that out that we have got an episode on it.

(09:08):
It's not out at the time of recording, but it
will be out by the time this comes out. Great,
So yes, next twenty twenty six Shark Month US Pressure fantastic.
Any you did cover some of the newer films, Into
the Deep, The Last Breath, Something in the Water, any
of those like No Way Up and those stand out

(09:28):
to you?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, I think it was Something in the Water that
I quite liked. That's the one with the I think
it's the bridal Party that gets stranded on the island. Yeah,
it reminded me of The Reef, which I really liked.
I'd seen the Reef before, and then I actually quite
liked No Way Up. It's not as much shark activity,

(09:51):
but I kind of liked the tension in it, So.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Mar Can I hate it, know, kind of we like
greater Darties and like made our way through an episode
covering it. Just don't really like Inspine, I guess. But
the last Breath is one that really stuck with me
because I found the characters weren't they're irritating characters, but

(10:17):
they were like well developed and they had an underwater
surgery scene which I'd never seen in a film before. Yeah,
I'm always whenever we have something new, because a lot
of the films do all kind of the same. But
whenever there is something new and like, great, I'm going
to latch onto that as being a great thing. And yeah, great,
well let's talk about another something else that's new to us.

(10:37):
Both words to the shark attack great. So, as I said,
this is nineteen nine, a few months before DEPC came out.
I don't know if this is one of those things
where like the filmmakers heard deeply cy was coming, and
they got a vague aspects of the plot and made
something that was similar, or it was just complete coincidence.
Who can say, I don't know. Yeah, I went in
knowing nothing. I for the most part, enjoyed this film.

(11:01):
I think, you know, i'd heard terrible things. I've heard
that the franchise goes in crazy directions as it goes on,
and I'm looking forward to seeing where that is. But
I thought, you know, for a TV movie starring Casper
van Deen, this could have been a lot worse. What
did you think?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I so the first time I watched it, like I said,
I watched all three Shark Attacks and Sharkstone in the
same day. Plus I had been in the middle of
watching a whole bunch of these shark movies, and a
lot of them were not good, so I was I
just was like, Wow, this is really not good. This
is really awful. Watching it the second time around, it's
still that great, but it's kind of fun. I like,

(11:43):
I'm sure it's one of those things where, like you said,
there it happens all the time, where a script floats
around Hollywood and then multiple versions of that movie get made.
I think, like Wyat and Tombstone came out the same.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Year Man and Bugs Bugs A Man and Bugs ants
in a bunks.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Christ, Yeah, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was
the case. I and I think that, you know, considering
the fact that it came out right it came out
right before Deep Lucy, right, so the whole like medical
research tied to the shark stuff sort of a newish concept.

(12:25):
So that's kind of like an interesting thing, uh I.
I do think also though again knowing that it came
out right around the same time, the difference in the
special effects and the editing obviously this was not a
future release. But the sharks that are clearly fake versus
the like live footage that is badly edited into cuts

(12:49):
and with them the actors clearly and like tanks.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Like all of the stock footage is great white sharks,
but then they do like an autopsy on a black fin.
I think, yeah, you know, it's all sharks. If you
watch a bunch of shot maybees you're probably gonna pick
up on these aren't the same sharks. But like the
there's there's a helicopter, I mean tenically there's two helicopters.

(13:17):
The one that crashes is different from the one that flies.
But you know what you know doing is it's a
no budget film. You get the gist. Yeah, yeah, So
what I found most of the shark films we covered
that there's like a few different kind of plots. They
tend to go along. It's genuinely like, oh, we're stuck

(13:37):
in the water and there's sharks around. Help. It's like
there's something in the water of the open water, that
kind of thing. This was different than everything else in it.
This is more of a thriller. I think this is
like a mystery thriller with sharks in it. And I
got another another franchise, you know, I both enjoy. I
got a James Bond vibe for quite a lot of this,
or for for some aspects of it. And like, you know,

(13:57):
you got a guy going to a different kind of community,
kind of environment. He's a different country, foreign land, and
there's a hierarchy of mob bosses and henchmen to deal with.
He's got some gadgets going on. He's got like an
electric shield generator and a blood spinning blood tester on
his boat. There's a lady, there's a local who was

(14:21):
like helping him, and there's there's a mystery to unpack
and a bad guy at the top of it. And
the bad guy gets the monologue and explain his evil
his evil plan a couple of times. And he's a
real fun bad guy who you know, we're going to
go for spoilers the second that you see and he Hudson,
You're like this, this guy is probably the bad guy,

(14:43):
just because of how smummy he seems.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
To be, how smarmy he is, and the fact that
he's the biggest name on the credits at that point.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, and I mean they do try and play yourself.
They introduce the Dr Miles Craven, who sounds like a
bad that's a bad guy name, and he's played by
Bentley Mitcham. Another bad guy name. He's played by bag
He's Robert Mitcham's grandson, so good for him. He is
clearly he's the bad guy this whole way through everything

(15:13):
he says. He says with a cigarette in his mouth
or his hand and with like an evil tone to
his voice. This is clearly but he has a bid.
He's clearly a bad guy. And he turns out to
know he's just he's just a guy. He's just a
signedist who's who's doing experimental procedures on children with cancer.
He's clearly a good guy. He's not the bad guy.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, it's funny because it's there's there're twists, and like,
like you said, there's sort of like different henchmen are revealed,
different bad guys are revealed, And it's just funny that
I watched this on Friday, and then yesterday I saw
Nobody Too, and there's kind of a similar thing that
happens where you get introduced to bad guys and then

(16:00):
you get introduced to their bosses, and then you get
introduced to the bosses of the of the.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Bosses eventually Sharon Stone, I haven't seen it yet, but
I'm aware that she's the headhunter.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's very clear from the trailers. But I
just thought it was kind of funny because it was
the same thing in this movie. It was like, Okay,
first you get kind of the like security guard guy
who's you know, grumping at at at whatever, Steve I
think is his name, Stephen McCrae. Yeah, and oh yeah,
and then you like you also have the like kind

(16:33):
of goonish cop guys too, and then you have the
doctor and then you have dsense. So it's yeah, kind
of like.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
The the goonish cop guys. You don't know the cops initially,
they are my favorite characters. One of them is credited
as police chief in my notes, he was Squinty Henchman.
The other one is credited as machette policeman, the greatest
character name and this guy is played by Jacob Matc Goober.
The other one is Chris Oddie machete policeman, always laughing

(17:06):
every scene. He only has a machete for like the
last act, but he makes use of that machette. He
is trying to attack Corinda scientists. But which anyway, Shane
he is he has one move and that move is
to swing the machete above his head at her regardless,
Like she just has like a harpoon umbrella. I'm not
sure what it is, but she's holding it above her
head to like deflect this one. And she keeps holding

(17:26):
there and just keeps swinging his machette over his head
at it can like repeatedly. It's like one It's one move,
and he is glorious. I loved him. He is a
very stupid character. He loses a machete at one point,
and Karin has him at gunpoint, and instead of being like,
I'm sorry, don't kill me, he was like, I enjoyed

(17:48):
feeding your brother to the sharks. And then she shoots
him for some reason. I don't understand what made her
do that. It's such a bizarre choice on his path.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, he's clearly having fun the entire time. He understood
the assignment.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
He knew you need to be an evil guy. Evil guy.
What you're doing evil? Yes, okay, continue doing that. Yeah.
When we first meet them, you know, they are taking
the character of Marcus Santa's Koorin's brother and Stephen's friend
and killing him. They like cut his arm and throw
him to the sharks, and May Policeman's just laughing the
whole time. But yeah, it's later when they're like they

(18:27):
tie up and throw in Korin and Stephen into the
water and watch them. Well, then the whole time we're
just thinking, oh, these are just henchmen. Is just back
at Henchman and then you cut away and it's like
the boat says law and order on the side, Oh no,
And then the next scene we'll find out their cups.
They find the police, and they're the ones that show
up the boat saying law and order on the side

(18:49):
is just funny to me, but not not like you know,
South Africa police or all of the town is that
they're in just law and order.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, very straight forward. This is what you should understand
about them.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
And so what did you think of our hero of
Stephen McCrae, O rock climbing scientist, biologist.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
It was he was Okay, he was.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
It's not a lot.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, there's not a lot. I mean basically he gets,
you know, I like, he gets the message from his friend,
he gets a phone message from his friend, then he
gets the email, but the email just disappears, and you
never we never fall up on that, Like there's never
like any investigation as to why suddenly his email disappeared.

(19:42):
I mean we're assuming that there was some sort of iris.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Only seventeen percent of the file arrived. Yeah, part of
that missing eighty three percent is what allows the file
to stay on your computer. I'm guessing yeah, because he's
like Mark is interrupted when he's sending it, and I
feel like if you're interrupted sending the email, the email
doesn't get sent. Yeah, part of it gets there's not yeah,
this is pre cloud, this is like a bit of

(20:09):
it made it up.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
There is, yeah, there's there's a little bit of nineteen
ninety nine technology. They agree that. I think that they
lean into the fact that like, oh, we're gonna do
tech stuff, but people aren't really going to understand it,
so we can get away with it. But no, as
to our hero, I mean, he's you know, he's fine,
he's I don't know that he gets to do too

(20:36):
much in terms of showing that he's the shark expert.
There are a couple of times, like when he jumps
in to save the kid and he's telling the kid
not the splash, Like, okay, maybe there's like some you know,
something that he knows about sharks there the thumper thing.
He understands what that is, and I guess, well, he

(20:56):
does do the autopsy on the boat of the shark
and figures out what's going on there. But otherwise I
feel like he's just kind of blindly going along and saying, well,
let me, you know, let me retrace my friend's steps
and not really like apply any oceanographic knowledge to it.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, normally in these is that the shark expert likes
sharks and is like an expert, like wants to help
and save and preserve them. But everything he seems to
do is he has like deterrence. He has things that
will kill the sharks. He has things that will come open.
He and he he he shows his expertise a couple
of times. He jumps into water and the fights sharks underwaters,

(21:36):
punches and kicks them a bunch of times until they
run away or swim away. But he doesn't do a
lot of like I love these sharks. You don't get
a real sense of he cares about and wants to preserve.
He's very much a land based guy. But I guess, yeah,
you know, he owns the respect he has owns the

(21:58):
respectful locals a little bit by going and saving a
kid from the from the sharks. And then later there's
a tourist with a video camera. She's got a leg
dangling in the water and that it gets bitten off
by a shark. Both times Stephen just kind of dives
dives straight in and shark. Yeah, this is you know,
going back to my this is this is kind of
a shark film, but not as less of a shark
for more a throwing that you know, this film has

(22:19):
a bar fight, has a card chase, has a boat chase,
It has all these kind of things that you don't
normally get in a shark movie.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yep, he goes.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
He goes into the bar from American World for London
and gets told and like stars stars a fight in
there and gets because for locals only, as for fishermen only,
de spot the fact that no one, no one there
can fish anymore because the sharks are eating all of
the fish and getting all the people. Yeah, so yeah,
it's it's a good time. I've been trying to a

(22:50):
new feature and try and do is when we cover
a shark film is just try and find how is
this film different in the past. I'm like, how is
this film the same as Deep Blueesy? But I feel
like it just being same thing, And I want to
find out what's what's unique, what's unique new shark? What's
new about what's new about this different? And like multiple
shark ops autopsies is I haven't seen any other film before?

(23:10):
Is not just one. I think there's at least three,
maybe four real life dead sharks, Like these aren't models,
these are actual, Like the actors are cutting these sharks
open and presenting us with the livers, and it's unpleasant.
I didn't enjoy any of them. One of them is
on a moving boat. I can't be well done. But

(23:33):
like when we see I think Miles as the majority
of them, he like and this whole massive shark open
from from like tip to tail and just pulling out
the innards and the and the organs, and like, oh,
look at this giant liver. Unpleasant. It wasn't wasn't the
fan but not seen before, how.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
That's the thing, not really seeing the shark autopsies before,
and so let's they're like, like, there at least three,
because there's two the doctor Craven does and at least
the one on the boat. I was a little surprised
the first one they did, because yeah, they go from
some very like clearly fake shark stuff to suddenly, oh no,

(24:18):
he's cutting open like if it's not real, it's very
well done in terms of yeah, I was like that
that clearly is a real thing, because otherwise it would
look like the shark of the previous shot. So it
was a little surprising. I don't know. I feel like,
also though I've seen enough shark movies and shark content

(24:43):
from Shark Week that it didn't bother me, Like, I'm like,
I have I kind of seen the shark autopsy before.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, there is one in Jewels, but it's less it's
less gross than this one.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
You don't see as much.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
But then but you see more of the shark attacks
in Jaws, whereas here when the lady on the boat
with her leg gets attacked, it's clear they kind of
they cut the camera off at the attack. You never
see like the leg that's been bitten. Do you see
like there's some blood thrown up a little bit, but
the camera never quite catches anything, like the lady still

(25:21):
has a leg just cut off. Yeah, they cropped it. So, yeah,
they spent the money on buying I hope they didn't
kill sharks for the film. I hope they'd like found sharks.
I can't find evidence either way. I didn't. I don't
want to find it. I don't want to look into
it too much.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I think because it was the nineties at that point,
there would have been regulations about it, so they probably
had donations or found the Yeah, the dead.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Sharks, I hope. Good. Great. I would ask like, what
did you think about the love interest Jenny McShane Coronas,
but that she's there's nothing, there's not a lot. Yeah,
Jennie Shane does crop up in Megal Doom three as
a different character. I think the same I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Told I don't know if it's I don't think it's
the same matrix, but I could be right. Like I said,
I was a little sick when I watched Worries, but
I did look at her IMDb and she's she's she
still acts a little bit, but she's a visual effects producer,
which I thought was kind.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Of that's the effects in the building. She's done a
few seasons on that, which is incredible.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
So I thought it was kind of interesting that she
went from acting not great TV movies too, and she's
and she's, yeah, she's done the special effects for a
couple of things, but a couple of like big big things,
like only murders in buildings.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
So yeah, and she did like the Equalizer TV series.
She did forty episodes on that one, which I haven't
seen that. Boy, here, it's good. This is us she
did the effects on These aren't like massive effects driven shows,
but still they have their Yeah, they have the things
that they're doing so h ten episodes of The Morning
Show that massive vision. Sure, but yeah, I mean you

(27:13):
got to keep working, and not all actors continue acting forever.
So I'm glad that she was able to diversify good
and I have I've checked, and she is in Shark
Tec three Megaloson playing a character called Cat who seems
to be the female lead. But I will confirm when
I see that soon. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Uh, she just looks a little different a couple of
years later.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
So did you did you like our villains? I'm gonna
I'm keeping mild As being a villain because you know,
he's doing testing on the sharks and then giving the
kids with with cancer, Like I get that he's trying
to cure them. He's trying to do you know, he's
doing the doctor Susan mccannister of trying to cure Oltzeimers
or whatever with sharks. But this isn't how you do

(27:59):
the testing. This is not is this not legal? Now breaking? Comeback?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
They try to they try to kind of spin it
right at the end, you know, give him a little
bit of a redemption arc and it's like, I'm sorry,
but he's killed dozens of people here, and you know,
Steven mentions it earlier. The reason that he knows that
Craven went down here was so that he could get
around the FDA regulations. And that's exactly what he's doing.
And he's killing people, you know by and you know, okay,

(28:32):
maybe there's some argument to be made about you know,
he's giving them some relief right before. But then they
go back. It's like they like, I don't know, it's
it's not humane, and they're definitely like ethics violations that
are happening. So I think we can call him a villain.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yes, sure, I don't care that his dying line is
see I wasn't such a bad guy. Yes, yes you were, Miles,
Yes you were. It would have resolved a few things
if he adjusted earlier. Oh those thumpers in the water
that attracting the sharks, those are mine, but they were stolen.
Have you seen my? Like, try and find my thumpers one,
because they Stephen and Karen quickly put together like, oh

(29:11):
these thumpers, milespusing them to attract sharks. Just say they
were nicked. Say that someone took your thumb. That really
irritated me. They seen him so many times they keep
on saying like the sharks, the thumpers, what are you doing?
And you just needs to say like I've been looking
for them for months, where we thank you for finding them,
but now we didn't nothing, no, no, no, I don't

(29:35):
think we've had those kind of thumpers in films for
like something to actually attract sharks. It was very it's
very dune to me, like.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
The things that I thought. I was like, it's the
Sandworm's coming.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Great and Myles is terrible at delivering bad news as well,
Like that's the reason that Stephen has gone to this
place to is is he looking he had this partial
message from his friend. He's gone to say his friend
and he arrives the day after his friend's funeral, which
bad timing. Didn't know his friend was dead, and Stephen
was like Mark's dead, moving on and it's just like

(30:12):
his best friend is colleague. Just no bedside manner at
all for whiles. And I keep on talking about the
rock climbing scene, but it just made me laugh because
it's it's pays off, not at all. It's just how
we're introduced to the character of Stephen, is he goes
rock climbing with his boss with you know, he's brought
along some photos of shark attack victims, as you do

(30:34):
when you go rock climbing, and it's they they have
a conversation, they climb up a little bit of wall,
they repelled back down again, and then they move on
to and then the comverination continues. There's a cut to
them just walking away doing something else. They've changed clothes,
and I feel like, what was the point of any
of this? Why didn't you just have this in a restaurant?
Where did you have to? Like? This didn't this wasn't exciting.

(30:57):
He don't doesn't rock climb later to show, oh, this
is an active guy for a like he has a
little bit, he can climb up a warm back down again.
I don't rock claim my flight. I could do as
much a drop climbing as he does in this. This
is an pritical limit. It's a minimal. It's just weird.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
And there's also the other thing where if they're when
they're on the boat, later says there's a rock climbing thing,
which is like kind of pointless, and like just I
guess to show like you said that he's active. But
then later when they're on the boat with Manny and Karen,
and she helps him take his wetsuit off to show

(31:33):
that he's got a scar on his back. Perfect they never.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Talk about it, perfectly, circular shock on his right on
his left shoulder. Yeah, it's not. She kind of clocks it,
and then that's it.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's not like what happened here, like.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's, you know, Dangerous Animals a film. We both love
the Jay con his character. There's a big shark by
prominent to his character. He was attacked as a kid.
He loves the sharks. It's mentioned it's it works here
not so much, not so much. But then this film
has far less character development than that. There is none.

(32:14):
Catherine Vondine, he has a square duwel. Therefore he is
the hero. Like great, that's and we follow him because
it doesn't matter. I've only ever seen him in Starship
Troopers and apparently he's in Sleepy Hollow. I don't remember him,
I bet you Hollow.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I remember I remember him Sleepy Hall. But I have
a fun Catherin von den story from recent place. So
just so, we go to the movies here at the Paramount.
It's a historic theater in Austin and they do a
summer classic film series. They show a bunch of movies
during the summer. Robert Rodriguez does a series where it's

(32:53):
Robert or Rodriguez Presents, and he comes and he shows
movies that either he was involved in or that he
knew people, and you know, he tells a little story
about it. So he did a double feature of RoboCop
and Starship Troopers just a couple of weeks ago, and
RoboCop is first, and as he was talking about it,

(33:14):
he was like, all right, so everybody who's here for
Starship Troopers, I'm gonna try He's like, I'm gonna try
calling a he actually hasn't in his phone, as Johnny
Rico's like, I'm gonna try calling Johnny Rico. And so
he called Johnny Rico, he called Casper Ponded and they
did a like impromptu interview with him just holding his
phone up and talking to the audience and so, like

(33:36):
I said, this was like two weeks ago again, perfect timing,
and he was just a blast, Like he was clearly
like really thrilled that the the theater was pretty much
sold out and he was all excited the audience was there,
and he he just was like a lot of fun.
Like I said, I just thought it was kind of
funny that was this impromptu thing, and like I said,

(33:58):
Robert Rdriguez just kept calling Hi, Johnny recoh Johnny Reco.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Sure, I mean that's his most famous character by by
some margin. I would say, yeah, that's the one. That's
the character I could name that he's played.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
But I did, like on the on the phone screen.
You know, this is like up on a stage that's
like hundreds of feet away, but you could see just
his whole face filled the screen and that like square CHOHn,
Like that's him clearly, I can see, even though it's
a tiny little phone screen.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Excellent. Yeah, my sister she works a long way way
from where she's based, but she keeps on having to
drive like a long way to go to a meeting.
Otherwise she's the one person calling in on Zoom and
her face is huge on their massive, big screen TV.
And she's like, I'd rather drive all that way than
be the massive, the massive head on the TV. So

(34:49):
I get the visual like that. Nice. Well, yeah, I
mean I'm sure he's a he's a great guy. He's
you know, he fulfills what he needs to do in this.
In this he's you know, he he's kind of a
he's not he's he's the Carter Blake of the film.
He's the the macho guy who you know, comes along
and beats up the sharks and saves saves the lady

(35:10):
and saves the town. Pretty sure, pretty sure that the
cancer child we meet dies of cancer or screen that's
which is rare in these kinds of things. Come around
and go, oh, we found the cure. Now there you go,
we did it. We just kind of we don't go
back to that kid. His dad dies his dad because
he's one of the fishermen who's recruited for the mission,

(35:32):
and he like runs in and is shot immediately jameh. Yeah.
Whereas the other the other the angry fisherman we see
later in the film, he's on crutches. He's not going
to sell his shop or his boat or whatever. And
Manny the local who like just gloms on to Stephen

(35:53):
and becomes his his everything he has. He has a boat,
he has a cameras, everything this guy needs. I loved
this guy. Tony Caprairie is the actor when when he
like charges into the attack and tries to say the
day he like runs into a bullet, which when that happens,
like not because he's like this guy firing from his
right hand side, just like firing across him, and he

(36:14):
just like runs through runs through the bullet against it
right in the chest. And I thought he was I
thought he was gone. But now he comes back with
a with a sling on. So yeah, I liked that guy.
He was he was fun, he was he was friendly,
He had a bunch of stuff to do. I couldn't
quite work out why why does he keep hanging around.
He's not being paid for Like see mccraty isn't like here,

(36:35):
have some money for this. He's just keeps offering to
help and being part of it.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, first I think he is hired, like.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
The taxi driver.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's the thing he drives and
he and he's got the boat and they do. There
is a line about when he when Steven mentions that
he's going to try to go look at this logo area,
many starts to say, you know something about knowing somebody
in the Steven's like, oh, I bet you know somebody
who's like got a boat and very reasonably priced, so

(37:05):
I think he is getting paid it first, and then
you know, he gets hit on the head and he's like,
I'm in it for you know, the morals. You know,
got to fight the people who are hitting me and
taking over my town fair enough.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, makes sense, he is. He also appears in another
Kaspa Vendeine film, Tarzan and the Lost City, from a
year prior to this. He's so maybe they knew each
other from that. Maybe maybe Casper Vanden brought him along.
Who knows. I hope so they were friends, he film.
That would be fun. There. One thing that Mark and

(37:50):
I always hate is when people characters deliver the worst
startlugue in the world, when it's when they're introducing someone's
been like I'm sorry you were my brother's friend, like
when they're establishing relationships in data, and that does happen
in this film, so I have to call out when
it's bad. And we also get the depiction of the
indigenous South African characters is not great. They're very much

(38:13):
depicted as angry, yelling tribes people who are annoyed when
people go fishing in their area, and I feel like
that could have been developed a little better, a little
just just I don't know, give a character, if a name,
give someone who that's a combination, doesn't just yell.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, I guess I'm a little confused. They the same
group that are I guess they're the same group that
are delivering the sharks to doctor Craven, right.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yes, I think so.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, Well, so what I thought was interesting was we
talked a little bit about the fishermen. I'm sorry, but
they all have accents from different places.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
This is true.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I'm not true of them African in any sense. And
so I just thought it was kind of interesting that, like,
you have those characters, and then you've got the indigenous
tribes that they interact with, and then you have Ernie Hudson,
who's like owns the whole town, but like it doesn't

(39:21):
seem to be natively from there. Yeah, he's a very
clear American accent.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
He's got a weird accent. It's kind of Transatlantic smam.
It doesn't seem to belong to anyone. I loved I
loved it. I loved how he talked, just the confidence
he brought to the role when I speaking. He's clearly
the best actor in the film, and he's doing as
much as he can with very little, but he's you know,
he's bringing his Earni hudsondness to it.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, but I think the angry fisherman, I think he
had a South African accent. But but everybody else was
all over the place, which yeah, but yeah, I just
wanted a little bit more. I just felt a very
very reductive portrayal of the indigenous.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah. I mean, you said it in a particular place,
and then you don't actually do much to honor any
of the history or you know, like I said, the
fishermen are even the fishermen who are supposed to be
these towns people are sort of background characters that just
kind of come along when they're useful to the plot.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
So yeah, all of the main players are visiting or
came there to take over. Yeah, yeah, but there we are. That.
I mean, that's that's similar to DEPC three. Have you
seen DVC three, I forget.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I've not only seen Deeply, I've not seen any of
the sequels.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Two is fun, Three is good is how we normally
talk about it, and three. If you're doing another month
of Shocks, add two and three onto your list. Three
is is a Great Film two is the is Deep
C one again basically but with a much smaller budget,
and the bad guy who's trying to make sharks more intelligence,

(41:10):
so who can inject himself to become more intelligent to
defeat robots in the Android Uprising the real plot of
that film. Michael Beach plays a character who injects. He
like takes some serum and then he can see the
matrix and you can see like blueprints and things are
just in his mind. It's weird. DeepC three is a

(41:32):
whole nother plot. We're like set out on a like
an eco island, like a man made island off the
coast of South Africa, somewhere called Little Happy where there's
there's some sharks get out from the end of DeepC two.
It's a lot of baby sharks and Deep C two super
smart baby sharks great a general they got they escape

(41:53):
when they grow up and they start attacking a Little
Happy and then it's people coming along and try and
stop that. But it's similar that one and that that
that kind of sets it in a fictional location like
off the coast of South Africa. It has some local actors,
but for the most part it's people from all over
the world have come there to do research and do science,

(42:14):
so they kind of do better. There's a couple of
characters who are, yeah, it's very good, very good.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
What three?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
And we're looking forward? Yeah, we're nearing. We're like two
thirds away from covering Deep to one again. We're looking
forward to covering two and three again. It's been a while.
A couple of scenes we haven't talked about that I
did enjoy. I appreciate when they bring some kind of
comedy into the editing and to the writing of these films.
So when they say, like we're going to bring a

(42:43):
shark on board to do a we're going to tranquilize
it and we sleep on like a baby, which immediately
like hey diep we see it seem like a baby,
and then they bring up they cut to the shark
and not tranquilize at all, thrashing over the place. Funny
and similarly like do we catch the last shark? I'm
pretty sure we caught the last shark and cut to
them being attached by shopping water. It's it's free, straightforward stuff,
but it didn't make me smile.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
So yeah, well, I talking about scenes to be like
not not shark necessarily, but I like the fact that
it's a CD rom that they copy this stuff onto
and then they just throw it into the water like
that'll that won't damage it at all, they won't fine
like shoes. Yeah again, but the nineties technology where we're

(43:28):
like we can get away with being a little big.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, that's that's. That was fun. I mean in deep
z is a floppy disk. That's that's you know, at
least it's in a ziploc bag.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
She puts it in a like ear tight bag.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah. That the CD is incredible. I didn't care for
the romance between Stephen and Koren. I never really care
for like tacking on a romance these kind of films
plays out for me. And she gives him a weird
like behind the ear kiss. They have a date. At
the end of it, she's ah, good night, and she
gives him like reaches far back round his head as
she can while still facing forward and gives him a kiss.

(44:07):
There sounds odd, sure, Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, well I don't think they didn't seem to have
much chemistry, and yet it's like it felt like exactly
like I kind of tacked on, like, oh, we've got
two attractive people. They should they should kiss, or they
should have some sort of tension. And she gives a
weird speech to him right before she gives him that kiss,

(44:32):
and it's very like, it's very awkward and in the
way that she delivers it, because it's like you'd think
she's going to say something else or invite him up
or something, and she just says, you're a good man,
like kisses him then good night, and it's like, Okay,
that's that was just all awkward. What was the point
of that? And like the after like fighting with him

(44:53):
at the beginning, the very first scene that they have together,
well that's it.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
She's he is her brother's best friend or like close friends.
So I feel like they would have met before, they'd
have some kind of history. Perhaps there's some kind of
maybe they dated in the past, something ended poorly, they've
got to rekindle that. But no, none of that. It's
just yeah, no, no, no, there's no history, no chemistry, no

(45:18):
no subjects at all. Just weird, just just just bad.
And I did feel like that scene should have ended
with an offer of eating her. I don't know, a
couple of films, we'll get there. Yeah, I think, I
don't think we've got anything left of my notes. The

(45:41):
car chase was pretty fun. The boat chase is pretty
fun as action set pieces go, and these kind of
low budget films, they were decently done. I thought, you know,
I got to give them some credit.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Every car explodes.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
The boat chase turned into a fist fight on a
boat that explodes, like, yeah, great, fantastic, incredible. Wasn't expecting
her to go in this direction. We have had car
chases in these films before, but not not often. There
is one in I want to say, The Deep, the
Robert Shaw film. I think the film Saw made after
Jaws but still had Jackson. I think there's a car

(46:16):
chase in that, and then yeah's boat chasing a bunch
of water. But yeah, yeah, they go to the decent
define wet disc covered down as a net as a note,
so that's good. Yeah, and you know, halfway through the
film before we know Eddie Hudson is the bad guy.
He does say at one point like a yeah, I
lose money with these shops being open, I lose even

(46:37):
more of I lose more of the shops closing. I
lose even more of it being open. You've just explained,
you just said you're the one who benefits from these
shops being being closed down. How is anybody it's not.
Stephen Cathavenden's character realizes only Hudson is the bad guy
when he sees a police car and Andielson's helicopter go

(47:00):
in the same direction. That's when he like, roads is
the but that doesn't even that doesn't mean anything. It's
a small town. It's yeah, and it all turns out
to be oil. There's an offshore petroleum thing. When they're diving,
at one point said this tar is everywhere in the water,
and then they never mentioned it again. They're just kind

(47:21):
of like that was a clue that they they didn't
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
There's a lot that you're supposed to just naturally infer.
I guess yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
And there's a climactic shootout. It's fun and Dr Miles
Craven lived with his name. He's carrying under it under
a desk. I actually I liked that both he and
Danni Huson's character were both like, I'm not taking part
in this. I'm going to hide. This is for all
of the henchmen and the fishermen. They can fight this
out and we'll just hide and crop up at the
m yone's dead. But then we do get the helicopter chase,

(47:52):
and he doesn't get into a helicopter. He's got a
security covered the helicopter and Casper Undine does the classic
thing of climb clinging onto the helicoptered legs and flying
up with it, getting in fist fighting helicopter and he
had some for some reason, grabs the helicopter gey stick
and starts moving around a bit. They both fall out.
Helicopter crashes into a mountain. The control and I do

(48:16):
you feel like I think I needed to have and
I feel like this they just wanted to get this
film onto the Exploding Helicopter Podcast several decades before it
was ever a thing. I one decade one. Yeah, I'm
sure this this this did come up when we've had
mos later on to talk about, like other shark films
with explaining helicopters in this is one of them. So

(48:38):
tick Across don't know, Yeah, anything else that you wanted
to talk about in the film in Shark Attack, No.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean, I guess the talking about that last fight
sequence in the so you get the helicopter crashing and
then they drop into the water and then they're fighting
in the water. They're fighting on the on the buoy
and Ernie Hudson's on it. Then Casper gets on it
and they like knocks him off, but then offers his

(49:09):
hand to him, like what, like I don't understand, Like
you literally just bought over this thing, are you? And
and I think that's the only is that the only
shark attack that we see where the shark we actually
see the shark and the person in the same shot,
because I.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Think so, Yeah, Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
That's their money at the end, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
And then we do get a real extreme slow motion
close up of Ernie Hudson screaming underwater he dragged down.
Yeah yeah. And then Caper van Den climbs on top
of the booi and does like the David the Thinker
pose on top of that. It really like ruminating on

(49:58):
what's gone down, what's happened here, because you know, when
he saves the lady whose legs bit enough, like the
next scene, he's like brooding in the car and they're
driving along and just thinking about that lady she's got
leg He really cares about these people.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, that's how he shows it, but I just sitting
there looking like he's thinking.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
And it is pitch black night when they break into
the lab through the research, and it is broad daylight
when they get out. So with with with the boat chase,
so good, they were in there for a long time. Excellent.
Well that would that's that's Shark Attack. The listeners. There'll
be at least two more entries in this franchise. At
some point, I can't seem find Shark Zone anyway, but

(50:38):
I'll keep looking.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Well, so technically Shark Zone I is. I think it's
part of the Shark Attack series because it uses clips
from all three of the show.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
It's one of those, Okay, it's one of those.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, so it's I don't know. I think the deal
is that it's the same production company and they basically
wanted to make another movie and so don't we already
have all this footage that we can just use, And
there's there is like their new characters, but there's like
clearly like a lot of the shark attacks and everything
are just shark attacks from Shark Tack, Shark Tack two,

(51:14):
and Shark Tack three.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
So I've just found on YouTube, so that will cover
it as well.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
So watch that one last, because you got to watch
the other three.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Have you seen Cruel Jewels? Did you see Crueieeles?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
No? I that is that is one that I void
for as long as possible.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I mean I had fun, but that Yeah, that uses
footage from all four Jaws films in the last Shark
and a bunch of other films as well, and dialogue
from them as well.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I think the difference though, is that was not legal Sharks,
So yeah, it was legal because they owned all the footage.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's a distinct difference. But yeah, crul Jeels
has plot lines and footage from the Jaws films, has died,
a log from Jurassic Park, has a score from Star Wars.
None of this is legal. Hey there we are great.
So that that will do it for Shark Attack. But

(52:10):
we need to know how deep, how blue, and how
much at sea this film is. When we cover a
new film, I watch it twice and the second time
I go through and work out how deep the action
on screen is taking place at how blue everything is
on screen, and how much of it takes place at sea.
Because this is a deeply se podcast, I have to
do so, as I'm sure you know, man. The deep

(52:32):
blue Sea is approximately fourteen and a half meters of
forty seven and a half feet deep. On average, about
thirty one percent of it is blue and eighty nine
percent of it takes place at sea. This is facts
that everyone knows. Do you think shark attack is deeper, bluer,
or more at the sea than deep blue sea? A

(52:53):
question you surely must have been expecting on this.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Can it be like, I don't think it's now, I
think I don't think it's deeper, bluer, I feel like
it's more I don't know, like yellow, orange or more
at sea. There's a lot of land stuff that happens.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah, you're correct in all fronts, this works out. They
don't they're not underwater for much of the films. In
a couple of scenes where they go down, they don't
get down with that deep. So this works out on average.
And there's bits in a helicopters up in their so
this works out on average above sea level one point
one four or three point seven also one meters or
three point seven feet up in the air, which means

(53:34):
it's slightly higher than Rennie Harlan's a legend of Hercules
and slightly lower than Renny Harlan's Bodies at Rest. In
terms of the depth rating blueness, this is about twenty
nine sorry, it's about twenty nine point eight percent blue,
which means it's bluer than Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End,
less blue than the aforementioned sharks luotation, and in terms

(53:57):
of how much of it is see about forty two percent.
This takes place at sea, which I'm not happy with
that because I don't like they're on the water for
that amount of time. But it's not always at sea.
They keep on referring things as being the lagoon when
they look like a river. I just took it as
always being at sea. So I felt like when they
were in the river, they were like just about in
the river. So I took it all the thing at sea.

(54:18):
So it is less at sea than prior to this morning,
more at sea than hot Spring shark attack, the afore
mentioned great Oh yes, so ranking wise, this is ninety
fourth in our deep rating, forty eighth in our blue rating,
and fifteenth in our sea rating. So far, yeah great.

(54:40):
I have a spreadsheet, so that will do it for
our coverage of shark attack, Amanda, what would you like
to pluge you everything you wants to promote?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Oh my gosh. I have been very inactive as of late,
but I am doing another sort of movie marathon on
my Instagram. I'm gonna be watching a bunch of baseball movies.
So if anybody's interesting quick thoughts, I will be posting
on my Instagram stories Hollywood Underscore consumer That's all I

(55:15):
got coming up.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
You will definitely have seen more baseball films than I have,
because I think I've seen like three.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Well I'm not doing a whole month, but I but
I've got I think about ten on my list right now.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
So Durham, I've seen the natural. I've seen there's no
crying in baseball. Can't reallytize right now. And thank you
and the other Kevin Costna one Dream. That's the four
I've seen, I think, and I'm okay with that. I'm okay.

(55:49):
I wanted to be like, it is baseball really a sport?
I don't know, it seems pretty, you know, pretty lazy
to be a sport. It's like it darts. It darts
really a sport.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
That's funny because I'm not really a baseball fan, but
I love baseball movies, so sure I will recommend one
to you, though that it was not on your list
that I I think it's a lot of fun. It's
everybody wants them.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, Mark loves that film. I haven't seen it because
I'm not a big Richard Linklater fan. I know this
is one of my big like cinema crimes is. I
love School of Rock, I love I love some of
his films, but I really hate the Before trilogy. And
I really didn't gel with Slacker and Days and Confused,

(56:36):
and I feel like everybody wants some fits in with
a Days and Confused category of like a hangout movie.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
It's exactly what it's. It's Days and Confused set in
the eighties and with baseball rather than football in college
high school.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
But I know there's a bunch of people in it
that I enjoy, you know, Glenn Powell's in there. And
try as hard as I like, I can't not love
the guy. He just I don't want to, but I
do when I can't. Yeah, he's great.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
He's a great in it.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Whyatt Russell here isn't it is good as well? Yeah,
it's one of those films I can't see. I'll check
it out. I can't see. I can't go my whole
life avoiding this film. People keep recommending to me.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
It's a very summary film too, So like maybe watching
it during the summer on a day when you're like,
I don't have anything to do, I can just like
watch watch You know, I.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Don't have those days renovating a house. There's always on
the do. Sure, I'll add it to my list. Thank you, great, fantastic. Okay, well, listeners.
You can follow this podcast all over social media at
Deep Blue Seapod or email us deep Seapot at gmail
dot com. Uh, we're recording this a little in advance.

(57:46):
Next week. Might be a continuation of our Piranha franchise,
looking at Karana Conda. We'll see. Yeah, it's a film
with visits. I've got a guest lined up for it. Yeah.
So I haven't seen it, but I feel like i've
seen it. I feel like, yeah, I feel like I've

(58:06):
got the gist of Paranakonda. But we'll see. So I
come back next week maybe for that, maybe for something else.
We'll see. But as for Shark Attack, thank you once
again to my great.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Guest Amanda Cacam thanks again for having me.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I have been Jake Lewer and I'll deep blue sy
you next week