Episode 256 (Shark Attack 2 - 2000)

New episode! Jay is joined by Matt Poirier (@dtvconnoisseur on Instagram) for the surprisingly romantic Shark Attack 2! On this episode they discuss traumatic field trips. surfer buffets and cannon-induced spit-takes, plus another all-timer jetski versus shark sequence!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
He Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea the podcast.
I'm your host j Cleer. On this show, we've been
to the entire Deep Blue Sea trilogy, scene by scene.
We're doing it again, but not today. Today we're talking
about a Deep Blue se adjacent film. That's a film
directed by Bronnie Harland faturing sharks for aquatic action, and
this is very much sharks and aquatic action. No Ronny
Harden to be seen this week, but this is the
continuation of our Shark Attack franchise coverage with Shark Attack two.

(00:39):
What is Shark Attack too? What is the sequel to
the Shark Attack recent two thousand went straight to video?
It stars is directed by David Worth and its stars Thorston,
Kay Daniel Alexander, Nikita Ager, Danny Hyogue and my favorite
character that was played by Peter Butler because he's the

(01:00):
mayor and he's great. I we'll talk about him later.
So it's it's kind of the same, Well, it's similar
to Shark Attack. It's a sequel to that. Like the
sharks from that film, they don't out that they were
pregnant and they gave birth to super sharks and they're
now ravaging Cape town, and you know, one of them
gets caught and put into an aquarium buts out kill

(01:22):
some people. Hilarity ensues, that kind of thing. It's a
shark movie, you know the job. We have a new
guest joining joining us today. He's not been on the
show before, but he is very familiar with straight to
video films of the Shark and Chark Party because he
runs the DTV Connus website. It's Matt Porrio. Matt, welcome
to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Thank you for having me. I'm excited to take a
little shark attack too.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
The thrilled to have you here. Before we get into that,
you just watched Deeply Seen for the first time, let's
talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yes, So for this culture, I have to admit that
in the nineties, I was a bit like my taste
in movies in the nineties were either like high end
like indie art house movies, or like the low direct
to video stuff, and I think it was mainstream. I
was too cool for it. And so you know, Deep
Blue c was a mainstream movie. But then in the
early two thousands, cable company here in the US T

(02:12):
and T had what they called tn T New Classics,
and so they played a whole bunch of stuff from
the nineties that they packaged as new classics that were
only like a few years old, and that was one
of the big ones that I remember, Like that one.
Shashank would be on a lot, armaged and things like that,
but Deep Blue Sea would be on a lot. So
I'd seen a lot of pieces of Deep Blue Sea,
but I never actually put the whole movie together start
to finish. And YouTube actually has a TV edit version

(02:34):
of it, so I got a lot of dubbed over language,
so nobody was scaring in that version. Though the deaths
were pretty good. I mean stellin Stars Guard, you know,
getting his arm taken off, it was it was at
least it seemed full effect for me, So that part
was good. But you know, I think I was able
to get like a good taste of the movie at
least by watching it.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
That one excellent. I'm thrilled that you picked out Stella
and Scyscull's death because obviously the Sam Jackson death is
on everyone remembers, but the stell And is one that
we're always drawn back to just because of how long
it takes for him to die, how protracted his dead,
like the arm gets ripped off up the elevator into
the helicopter down into the water. The shark used him
as a battering ram. It's we found covering all of

(03:14):
Rennie Harden's films that he does that a lot. He
has a lot of films were just real drawn out,
like people die hard in his films, not.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Just do you think it's because he thought that Rennie
Harlan Stellar's character he was like kind of the head
like shark torturer, tester that maybe he deserved a longer death. Maybe,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
We think the sharks hated Jim the most. Yeah, so
they like they singled him out. You know, it just
happened that he was the one by the water being
with the hubris, so they had to like, oh, it's great,
we'll take him now. But yeah, they probably could have
killed him quicker. And they're like, no, we're gonna, let's
gonna mess with us. We're gonna we're gonna mess with him. Yeah,

(03:58):
that's our theory. So great, fantastic. So yeah, we're covering
DVC chapter by chapter, So maybe we'll have to have
you back on to dig a bit deeper into your
thoughts into that film. But have you seen the sequels.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I just found out about the sequels. I know one
of them, I think it's the third one has an
actor named Brent Foster in it. Yeah, so he's known.
So if you've watched any of the direct to video
Stephen Sagall movies, I.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Have seen precious few Stephen Skeew films.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So as the two thousands turn into the twenty tens,
the amount of work that mister Sigall does in his
movie shrinks considerably. And as we get to the twenty tens,
part of the strategy that filmmakers would use when they
had cast Sagall is they'd have a younger actor who
would do the heavy lifting. And Brent Foster was one
of those actors who would do the heavy lifting in
some of those movies. So that's that's what I recognized
him from. And I was like, well, okay, it's nice

(04:47):
that he gets to do a movie where he's not
essentially doing all of Sagall's work for him for little
little publicity.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, he's the I mean kind of kind of spoiler,
but you can see it coman. He's the main villain
of DVC three And yeah, I mean we really like
to we just say two is fun. Three is good
is how we describe the sequels. So yeah, three is
actually really good. It's a bunch of great stuff on it.
And well we've done those scene we're gonna do them again.

(05:15):
And they're both DTV, so they're right up your street
and we'll definitely have to have you back on to
talk about them because two actually shares a lot of
similarities with the Shark Deck too, and there's baby sharks
in it, and then three has like the offspring from
two out and about rampaging, So there's there's similarities to
this franchise and the DeepC franchise. So yeah, because it.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Feels like this movie takes it takes a little bit
from Deep Blue C. So it's kind of funny that
sort of like then the sequels to Deep Blue C
would take something from the Shark a Deck series.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
That we're learning that there's only so many things you
can do with shark movies, it seems, but we love
talking about them, and you know, the first Shark that
came out like a few weeks before the first Deep
Z and they share so much into the both films
have someone's experimenting with sharks to try and cure cancer,
basically Alzheimer's. They both talk about how sharks can't get cancer,

(06:09):
which is not true. They can, but these films ignore
that it doesn't matter different science. Yeah, great, wells, let's
stick into Shark Attack too. Then this was a first
time watch for me. But I think you had covered
it and the rest of the franchise over on your site.
When how long ago was that? Did you remember them?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
So the first one and the third one I had
covered a long time ago. So like the third one
was the big one because it's got the famous John
Berrelman line in it, and so I covered that one.
And then the first one has Casper van Deen' so
I had to do that one. And then I went
on an unplanned hiatus from my site in like twenty
fifteen through twenty nineteen, and going to twenty twenty, I thought,
you know, why don't I do a Shark Attack week.

(06:49):
But one of the things about my site is that
over time has gotten a large action slant to it,
like just more action fans come to the site than
anything else, and so it didn't really get any traction.
But architect too interesting enough didn't get a lot of
traction at the time when I reviewed it. But I
just went back and checked and it has recovered and
gotten more views, so it Yeah, I did review it,
So I guess it was twenty twenty's above five years

(07:10):
ago that I reviewed it.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, Well you when I approached you and said hug
Attack too, were you? Were you happy about that pic? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean I think like one has the star power
and three of course that line and there's so many
other crazy things that happened in three that you know,
whereas two, I looked at it as just like a
good direct to video, like pizza and beer movie kind
of thing, or pizza and sod or whatever you're into.
You know, it kind of hits the spots that you
need for a good movie like that.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I've yet to see three. I've got that in my
in my near future. I was it wasn't that high
on one. I thought one was fine. You know, we
watched a lot of these films. They didn't really do
a lot different. I really enjoyed two. I went in
with pretty low expectations based on you know, it's it's
a sequel to a film. That's fine, and it's no
one talks about it as much as they talk about three,

(07:58):
so well, this is just gonna be another another film.
And there's a lot of cliche shark movie scenes here,
but there's a lot of them. There is a lot
in this is is an eighty nine minute film that
the plot of something over two hours all crammed in there,
and it's never boring. It's always entertaining, some great characters

(08:19):
making some great choices. There's a lot of shark action,
sort of like quite gruesome shark action at times, and
I had I had a great time with it. You know,
it's fun. I looked at I'm here for Yes.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, I think that's the thing about this one, and
I think that it's it's a shame that people don't
know about it because of the lack of star power,
because it is just a fun shark movie. It's just
it kind of you know, like watching the second time,
I enjoyed it as well.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Excellent. Yeah. When I covered will we covered Shark Attack.
My main takeaway from that was like, this is kind
of a shark movie, but it's more like a mystery thriller,
like what's going on here and who's doing it? And
Shark Attack too doesn't have that aspect, but it's like
equal parts shark movie romance movie. This is I'm trying
to when we cover new films, I'm trying to like
point out how is this film different from all of

(09:09):
the other many other shark films, trying to pick out
what is uniqu about this one? And I think this
has This isn't the first film we've covered. It's got
a romance suplot. I think this has the most romance
subplot of any of the films we've covered so far.
On this show up, there is a full date montage,
which maybe my favorite part of the film. When the

(09:30):
character is like, oh, we need to go and do this.
They need to take the boat out tonight. Oh, but
the boat's been repaired. I mean the female character Sam
is like, I've got an idea, and then it's just
the date montage for they they go for a walk,
they play like football in the street with some kids.
They take a big old glugger water next to a
cannon and then the cannon goes off and Thorston K's character,

(09:54):
doctor n Carris is the biggest spitdake ever seen on film.
And then they take a cable car. They talk about
her dead says and then the back to the plot.
Where did this come from?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
But I love to yes, and I wondered too, because
the main star, Thorston K did a lot of soap
opera work here in the A it actually still does.
It's almost like every time a soap opera gets canceled
in America, because we're down to like maybe two at
this point, we had like six or seven when this
movie would have come out. It seems like when they
when they drop, they bring him over from the one
that got canceled, and he seems because he seems to

(10:26):
just keep making his way through them.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
He's the Ted McGinley of soap operas, just.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Like a love boat with his camera at the very
end there. Yeah, exactly so, And I wonder like if
they're just like, Okay, let's just lean into this leading
leading man kind of thing with him and have this
whole romance aspect of it, because you're right, it's it
feels very shoehorned in there. So they do a little
bit of it in part three. I'll let you you
know that there's a little bit of that, but it
doesn't land the same way as it does here.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, Yeah, I hadn't come across the Thorston K before.
But I did get like a sap op pro vibe
watching it, and I was thrown to when I when
I finished watching it and checked his own to be
He's like, oh, yeah, he's in like two thousand episodes
of us of what is what is the most of
the ones, The Bold and the Beautiful is on one thousand,
eight hundred and eighty episodes of which, hey, good for him.

(11:17):
He's got to got a job what I'm working actor,
No shame there, fantastic. So yeah, he's seven hundred and
thirty episodes of All My Children, three hundred and forty
five of Port Charles, and then forty three more of
the All My Children reboot. I guess I don't know.
These are all things I haven't watched and it never will.

(11:37):
But good good for him, because I mean, Casper van
Deen has the star power, as you said in the
first one. I don't think Thorston K has quite has
that star power. He's not not recognizable to like outside
of the US. Maybe, and I think I think as
a character, as a as a lead actor, he's fine,

(11:59):
but he doesn't. There's not a lot of sparks. There's
not a lot there to work with, which, you know,
it's kind of part and possible with a lot of
these shark movies. But what did you think about the
character of doctor Nick Harris?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, I mean I loved his voice. I thought that
was hilarious. You know, like he shows up it, you know,
like you know, I'm here to kind of find you know,
like I get I was doing it perfect last night.
I don't think can do it now, you know where
he's like, you know, I'm here to find the shark,
you know, and he's just you know, but yeah, like
like with the woman, like you know, his interactions with her.
I mean, I think the best line is when he's
doing that date thing and you know, he knows she's

(12:33):
still distraught over her sister having passed away like a
week ago, and thank you exactly. It's like what can
I say to make it easier for you? And it's
like maybe the fact it's only a week, maybe you
don't need to make it easier.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Just give a ton to grieve. Yeah, like say in
it for a little bit, you know. Yeah, this is
a very quick film times, but I'm giving how much
how much takes place? Yeah, I the first kind of
meeting that that he and Samantha have. Her sister is

(13:07):
killed by a shark when they're out diving. And then
a week later, Nick works for an aquariums called water World.
It's not that water World, it's different. We've covered that
water World, and like they fight, they she's got They
catch the shark and tranquilize it and bring it in
and she storms in and be like that shark killed

(13:28):
my sister. But there's like a meeting outside of the
aquarium where they kind of like bump into each other
and Nick just doesn't move out the way. He just
like stays standing at her with like a cock tieer,
like hey lady. She just scowls at him, and it's
clear this is real. Like enemies to love us. This
is the stereotypical, the most you can think of enemies

(13:49):
to lovers. They hate each other, they love each other.
All you gotta do is have He saves her life.
At one point they go on a date day, they
have sex in a pool, and then they're they're together
the speed They speed run a relationship like they do
everything else in the film.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, she shows up the next day in his.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
She just progressively puts more and more of his clothes
on it over the course of the film, because she's
then wearing his over shirt later on. Yeah, so there's
not a lot to Actually, she she gets quite a
bit to do, I think, because she gets to be
all angry and annoyed and glowering. There's a the villain character,
Micro Francisco is doing a press conference. At one point,

(14:32):
she's just in the background of the shot shooting daggers
at the camera. Maybe frame her out of it, maybe
like pan around somewhere, don't have her in shot of this.
But so she gets she gets some fun stuff to do.
But I think the most one of the most fun
characters is you always got to have a shark expert,
a shark wrangler kind of guide to shop. And this

(14:53):
film has Roy Bishop played by Daniel Alexander. Roy Bishop,
I'm pretty sure as a character in Neighbors the Australian
show so right. But he he is an Australian, a
famous celebrity wildlife hunter from Australia. Make of that what
you will as to who he's meant to be. But
he's quite villainous initially, which Steve Owen very much not.

(15:16):
And this guy is great he's very Australian. His boat
is called down Under. He's wearing a big hat. He
keeps calling people butted and then saying things like dingoes,
what is it, Let's get these bloody dingoes what they deserve?
That kind of thing. I can't do Australian accent. That's
the best shely gonna get. So yeah, it's clear he's Australian.
I don't know if Jennie Alexander is Australian.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I'd love from England.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I think he's from England, and I think he was
a footballer who didn't make it. I think, I don't
know if you played like in the very lower tiers
like the I don't even know if he made it
into like the foot the Bridge football system professionally, but
I don't know. It's interesting I'm not seeing anything on
his IMDb page because it was there originally. They had
all this trivia on him that I don't know if
you scrubbed it after the fact. But uh, he coaches apparently,

(16:04):
I think in the United States. I think he coaches,
you know, kids football teams, which made me wonder if he, like,
you know, after the training you know, whatever is done
if he you know, uh, shows this movie to them
and like like, you know, here's what your coach check
me out.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I can occasionally do an Australian accent, but not consistently.
But yeah, that that explains. He's in a lot of
football or soccer related things. That he's playing himself in
a bunch of things for kicking and screaming, which seems
about would be about football some variety. Does that make sense? Okay, yeah,
sure makes sense. So he's fun and Michael Francisco, But

(16:46):
Danny Coo is a great bad guy. He just did
love to hate him. He shows up, he pulls up
in his big Mercedes in his big named parking spot.
Somehow does that in a villain his way? Uh? And
it's like, you know, just real bad guy. You know,
he keeps making mistakes. He fights Nick for making it,
for making his mistakes. A guy gets killed because of

(17:08):
things that they hated. And I hate this guy, but
I as a bad guy he was great. Did you
enjoy him as a as a villain? Yes?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, I thought he's beautiful. I mean this is another one.
You know we think about Deep Blue C that Deep
Blue C didn't feel like it had like that one
main villain character that this one does, you know, having
this one and again, like you said, like he's firing
thorston K when he's the one who makes the mistake
that gets the guy killed. You know, he's going to
the mayor and he's essentially saying all these horrible things
about thorston K and and all this stuff, and it
takes it takes essentially the sharks, you know, indulging in

(17:41):
a surfer buffet. I guess it's the best way to
describe it. The mayor to finally decide, no, you know,
this is it. We're not listening to you anymore. But yeah,
it's almost like like he just plays that part so well,
like he's just you know, yeah again. It's It's one
of the fun things about this movie is to have
a baddie who's that that bad.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
He doesn't really get much for comeuppance is moment. Like
normally the character will be eaten by a shark at
some point. That's how these films tend to go. I mean,
there's what is it is the last shark Cruel Jaws.
Cruel Jaws has a similar kind of character, but it
doesn't get in by a shark, but keeps them being

(18:22):
pushed into the water by a sea lion, like being
like ridiculed in front of the crowd. But this guy
that doesn't have that, he's just he's not in the
final act. They just kind of move on without him,
so I'm missing that. But then I guess the Mayor
and Jaws Marivale doesn't get it, doesn't get eaten, so
he survives. He's in Jaws too, get in then either

(18:43):
still still keeps going? Is he still the Mayor and
Jaws three? Who knows? We moved on?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
My only memory of Just three was when that was
on it when I was six years old to play
on HBO here and I snuck out the little bit more.
The parents were watching it right at the scene with
the guy with the worms in his mouth comes.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Out of the water. It's sure.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, I mean there's there's similarities between Jeors Just three
D and Shark Attack Too in that there's a shark
in a in a not in the sea world, in
an aquarium, so it probably drew some parallels parallels there,
And yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I mentioned earlier my favorite character may a shandy piper
Peter Butler, who just has some real wonderful turns of
phrase and lines of dialogue, emphasizing random words that he
wants to which I enjoy When when after the massacre
of the serving he's talking to her, to Francisco and

(19:37):
to Roy and he's like, I've got five dead, more injured,
and I've got to make some sort of statement. It's
just not really he's really annoyed that he's going to
talk to the press after all these people have been killed.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah. Yeah, I loved him as well. There's almost a
sense of like he was the adult in the room.
I don't know, like like you know, I mean, Grinned
Thorston k probably should have been more of the adult,
but but there was almost a sense that, like, no,
the mayor was Yeah, It's almost like he was us
watching the movie. He was our conduit through which the
movie goes to break. Guess the anger of the film.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, I'm thrilled to say that he We've covered the
Persidon Adventure and beyond the Piston Adventure and the and Poseidon,
but he's also in the one that we skipped, the
two thousand and five TV movie, The Psidon Adventure. So
I feel like I need to circle back around and
and watch that and how this guy's in there?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yes, I did review that one on the pike said
had Peter Weller in it, and I was when I
first start my said, I was doing a lot of
Peter Weller. I think if that's the one, then there's
a few.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, Peter Weller, Brian Brown, Ruga Howell, Adam Boulbwin, Steve Gerdenberg,
see Thomas Howell, Alex Kingston. Heck of a cast in
this film that no one knows exists.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, I had to review it for all those names,
and I mean it definitely does not have the fun
of the original Poisidon Adventure. There's certainly nobody singing there
has to be a morning after or anything like that
and going out of the movie. But it is kind
of fun. Do you see all those names together?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, Like I imagine they don't all make it to
the end, so it'll be fun to see who doesn't.
Adam Bourbin's playing the Ernest Bourbline character. Fantastic great. So,
speaking of characters not looking to the end, we do
get a bunch of deaths in this film, and they
are pretty great. Sometimes like these kind of low budgets

(21:23):
straight to videos shot films, they're all just like shark
gnashing at the camera and character, but we don't see
character anymore. But here there's there's blood, there's guts. Any
any standout sequences for you, death wise boy, I.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Mean, I think the two buddies that worked the boat
for for Thorston.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
K, Tom and Mark to Mark.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, we found out that Mark was one of the
younger of the two brothers, was tying up the phone lines. Yes, yes,
I love Gentlemen cinema.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Apparently back in two thousand that would tie up a
phone line.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
And I kind of felt like Thorston K took his
sweet time getting out there to save them, and the
fact that he couldn't rescue his two friends from you know,
being eaten by the shark. I kind of felt like, yeah,
you want you're here to take care of business in
that circumstance.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I mean, he he did jump into action like he's
on he's on the beach, so looking for the he's
got a shark track a sout on the beach. You
get the nice jaws zoom because you can't know if
someone's out on the beach looking for a shark. That's
how they have to realize and so he dashes over
to the tannoy and he just shiver right out of
the water. Sharks a shark, and he goes straight for

(22:39):
the jet ski, which my regular co ho has Mark
he if there's a jet ski in a film, he loves.
He just loves a jet ski scene. So jetskis and
sharks both in this one. He has the Hoffmeyer triple.
Is what we call it is if a film has
jet skis, sea monsters and catapults. It's unfortunately no catapults,
so I did keep an eye out, but no catapults.

(22:59):
There's a cable car, but that's not a calibule, so
this doesn't quite get the Hofmyer triple, but he gets
two of them. Yeah, he gets on that jet ski,
he gets out there. He he does the dumbest thing
I've ever seen anybody do with the jet ski, which
I just ram it into a shark. It did make
me laugh quite a bit, like this shark's coming from

(23:19):
my friend Tom ram it ram the jet ski into it,
and he goes, he goes flying off that jeski and
you see him swimming. I was like, what's he swimming for?
And he swims back to the jet ski's fine. He
swimming back to the jet ski, jumps back on it,
goes and saves the other or tries to save the
other friend. Mark gets to him, shark gets to him

(23:40):
first because the circle back around to Tom and saved
Tom from the other shark. It's yeah, he's not thinking
about logistics and like where he should be going because
he's clearly by the first guy. He's by Tom, so
like save the guy your neck anyway, But yeah, thrilled.
Thrilled to have a jet ski action scene in a
shark movie. We always love, We always love. Our favorite

(24:01):
one is Shark Attack three D has a phenomenal jets
sky action scene of a shark leaping out of the
water and biting somebody on a jet ski going full pelt.
It's a delight. He's one of the best parts of
that not great film.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, you know, I guess to your point, Like, you know,
Thoriston k sitting on the beach with his you know,
his his lady friend who he's just really started to
connect with. He thinks he's taking the afternoon off. He
doesn't realize that, you know, hit this assy friend. You know,
Roy is out there in the ocean sort of I
guess the best way describe is he's bolloxing the whole
thing up because she just you know, he thinks he's
supposed to be catching them, and he does a bad

(24:39):
job of it, and suddenly he sends the sharks. You know,
the sharks are like, Okay, we're done with these guys.
Let's go hit the buffet over on the beach there
with all the surfers. And you know, so maybe maybe
to your point, maybe Thorist and Kate didn't think he
was gonna have to jump into action, and he did
did the best he could under the circumstances.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, and yeah, he was on the beach, the shark
was in the water. He got out of there as
quick as he could. The jet skis is his best option.
And like no one else is helping. Everyone else is
getting out of the they's doing something like there's a
guy sat on the jet ski. He's just like sat
there and Nick has to like pull pull him off
the jet ski and climb on, and he's like, hey,
what are you doing, dude? Do you think he's doing?

(25:16):
He's gonna try and save this up eaten by and
there's some pretty very gory deaths, Like do you see
the shark gnashing on people on limbs and ins and
guts and what have you. That's all over the place. Yeah.
Just prior to that, Roy two of his men get
taken out by the sharks are trying to and they
they're in a shark cage and the sharks like open

(25:37):
it like it's a tin of beans and just just
rip pull those guys out of there and eat them.
And one guy gets out and almost makes it to
the boat and he gets taken out too. So there's
there's a couple of scenes, but like the person is there,
they're screaming, and they spend a lot of time with
them and they still die, which is like rare in
these films. Often they don't. They don't waste time with

(25:59):
this peasant, like it's just an extra. They don't gonna
give any dial up. But he's a characters they've had
lines of donal also in the film they've got names
and now the dead. Yeah, I just realally enjoyed this film.
Throws to have a good time with it. Yeah, and I.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Wondered too, to your point about people having the lines.
One of the things. So part of this movie was
shot in Bulgaria. Part of it was shot in South Africa,
but the Bulgarian part of it. The company New Image.
You know, their producers, I think Danny and Avi Learner
of Baz Davis, and they worked under the Cannon guys first,
and then they end up begetting Randall Emmett, who does

(26:36):
a whole bunch of he's kind of known as sort
of doing like the Bruce Willis movies and things like
that nowadays. But they when they opened up their their
studio in Bulgaria, they would get a lot of UK
actors to come down kind of in between projects or
you know whatever. And I wonder if part of the
deal with getting some of these UK actors to come
in and be in these these movies is you get

(26:57):
to put your American accent on your demo reel. And
I guess if you don't have to be lines, you
can't put your UK accent on the demo real.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, makes sense, fair enough. I just realized that this
is the same director as Shark Attack three, but not
Shark Attack one. So that's good. I enjoyed this, so
I hopefully I'll enjoy that one as well. So that's good.
Does David Worth seems to be do a lot of
straight to video films. Have you covered anything else he's done?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, so so Raptor Island, we do. I think it's
a Parenslamis movie. Yeah, Puppet Master versus Demonic Toys. We
covered that one. Uh, and then I think going down
earlier things, I thought there were some earlier ones. Actually
I'm sorry, I'm looking at his director. Sorry, I was
looking at his cinematography work, not his director work, which
I think it might be the same in many cases.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
But yeah, I don't think he directed Raptor Island.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, he's just a cinematographer.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's a film when I've never heard of that film,
wating to watch it now.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, it is very bad computer generated rapp but yeah,
but yeah, David Worth, So, I guess the big ones,
you know, Kickboxer, the Lady Dragon movies, you know which
are Cynthia Rothrock films, Warrior of the Lost World for
MST three K fans out there, that's one that Fred
Williamson and uh Robert Ginty and also Donald Pleasant sound

(28:17):
but they covered that one on there. Yeah, and then yeah,
I guess after this he gets in Fists of Rage
is one that I covered on my site. That's uh,
Steve or sorry, I'm Sam Jones. I think was in
that one. If I've got that one right, I could
be wrong, could be the actually I think No, I
think I'm thinking a fistive honor, not fistive rage. Sometimes
with these titles, you gotta easy to get them confused.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Fists of rage, no cast listed on MTV.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Right, So that's not the one I covered. Now. Mine
was fistive Honor. So this is this is something complete.
Which is the other thing that happens with direct to
video stuff is that these you know, you get in,
you start making this movie with some producers and then
suddenly they're just not paying anybody and the thing just
shuts down. And so but some you know, enterprising I
am editor goes in and adds the film on the

(29:03):
on the page there.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, I think I ever come from the film with
no cost listed. That's a I didn't know such a
thing could happen. Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yes, when you started taking in these direct to video movies,
you see all manner of fascinating things that happened. Yeah,
it's you know movies that like like that, like you know,
a movie that people thought they were going to make
and then just yeah, and I don't know too if
it's like nobody, anybody that was involved with shooting it
just said remove my name from it or something.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I don't want nothing. I want no part of this,
no proof I was never here. So what what drew
you to the DTV world? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
So it started. So the very first movie I can
remember was a movie called show Down a little Tokyo
that actually wasn't direct to video. It was it had
a very limited release and it was directed by this
guy Marc l Lester who did Commando, and it was
a Dolph Lungder movie with Brandon Lee and seventy five
minutes long. You know, like I had a very limited release.
But I remember my friend his dad had a just
scrambler box and essentially it was a cable bocks alleged

(30:07):
to get like pay per view channels and you know,
HBO things like that. And I watched that on there
and I was like, Wow, there's like a whole world
of movies that I don't know about because this I
don't remember this being in the theater or anything like that.
And so then you know, I rented it with some
friends and you know, you see the trailers for other
things like Don the Dragon, Wilson movies, you know, Cynthia Rothrock,
people like that, and you sort of beget that. The
other thing too with my friends was that we liked

(30:28):
a lot of low budget horror, so that was one
that you know, I think Bad Taste was one that
we watched in the in the early nineties, and suddenly
we were big Peter Jackson fans. But then we're just
kind of finding anything else like that. Yeah, and then
you know, in the two thousands, I kind of, you know,
met some friends from college. They found some Dolf Lunger movies,
and suddenly I was back into it again, and that's
when I started the site.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Oh, Mark Loves Loves Dove Lungern his his his rdit
account name is Loundgren's front kick. So he's like, so, yeah,
you have to get you with the definitely have you
come for a Mark episode as well? Yeah, because I
I I've heard you on on Todd's podcast Forgotten Film Clasts.
I've heard you. I think you've been on Will's podcast

(31:08):
Exploding Helicopter.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yes, yes, it was just recently we did Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah. Yeah, they're both friends of the show. We all
said we obviously had will on for when the headiculpter
explodes in DeepC, and we have told on factually for
the Pudden Adventure and for DeepC as well. So I've
I've they're two guys who are deep in worlds of cinema.
I have no I don't know where Todd keeps finding
all of these films whatever. I've been on this show

(31:32):
a bunch of times. He always printces me with these
lists of films that I've just never come across, and
he he says, like, any do you have any suggestions?
And I'm like, I mean, I was on for Clockwise
was the one film that I had heard of and
seen before that he hadn't come across, like the John
Cleees trying to catch it, get somewhere before he's late,
and everything else is like, oh yeah, well this all
these films, where where did they go? Where do they

(31:54):
come from? All these fls with explaining headic coopters, and
where are they? Like there's I think fourteen shark movies
with explaining headicopters in this We're slowly working that way
through them. But I don't know where these films came from.
Where they go to uper. I'm thrilled that there's people
out there like like yourself and tell them, will that
given them the respect they deserve? It so fantastic.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, I mean I would say quickly like on to
B if you type in sharks on to B, I
think you could do like an entire month of like
just a new shark movie every day. And yeah, it
is kind of amazing like that. We've done fourteen on
the site. Like I said, you know, when I did
the Shark Week and I didn't get as much engagement,
I kind of put shark movies to the side, and
one of those was Adulph Lounger movie was Shark Lake,
and it still didn't get the traction that I would

(32:34):
have thought it would have gotten. But sometimes I think
it's it's better sometimes you go back to those, you know,
just be like not worry about the main audience what
they're you know, see because other people kind of find
movies as well, they kind of find them, So yeah,
I know. One I've been thinking about having my wife
on my podcast, and one idea that I had for
her because she likes the Jersey Shore TV show and
she used to go to like the Northern Shore. There's

(32:56):
Jersey Shore Shark.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
At till I was gonna say, cover that one. We
haven't done that yet.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yes, we watched that. We watched most of it, and
we we got a kick out of I mean, you know,
it's like Tony Cirrico from from Sopranos, which I guess
you know, uh deep Lucy also has a Sopranos alone
in it, and yeah, yeah, yeah, that was just a yeah,
there's that one. I think there's another one called like
Jersey Shore Slasher or something like that, so there's.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Like, wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, there's a there's a whole
franchise at this point. Excellent. Yeah, I've keep asking, like
my wife she wants to be on because we haven't
done Finding Nemo. And you know, I know that she
she can quote that line for line because she does
it all the time, but she has no interest in
being on a podcast, which you know, fine, she's never

(33:41):
listened to this one. I've done hundreds of podcasts ever
listen to this point, she's only ever listened to my
side of it through the wall more than enough for her.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yes, say you hear what she said, Like I want
to be on sometime and I'm like, listen, you know,
all you need is your phone out in the living room.
I'll stay and you know, this is my home office
that I work from as well, so I was like,
I'll stay in here. You just use your phone, you know,
we don't need to be too crazy about it. And
it's like, we'll do the jersey. Sure she wants to
do like like movies that aren't directed video. It's like
I kind of got to stick to the theme a

(34:12):
little bit, like I can't just do anything but.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Enough, you know, beyond but not not your podcast. You'll
do someone else's podcast. Thanks great, as so I what
did you think of just get back to the shark
at actor, what did you think of the actual sharks?
Could we have a bunch of as a mixture. There's

(34:39):
some very clear puppets when the shot of the shark
escaping the aquarium is clearly just a big rubber shark,
but there's there's stock footage, which you know, we encountered
that quite a lot. But there's actually more scenes I
was expecting of actual people on on the same screen
sharing the screen with real sharks, mainly in the shark
cage sequence because it's it's easy to shoot because you

(35:01):
just have people in the shockages. But what did you
think of the model sharks, the real sharks, the shark footage?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, I was surprised as well. I mean, I think
especially you know, I'm someone who you know, one of
my favorite sharks is the old Batman movie where he's
like trying to climb up the ladder in the film,
shark is grabbing him there. And I always like to
see like, you know, like like Dolph Lunger and Shark
Lake where he's punching a foam shark. I like a
good fake shark. So the fact that these were more
realistic didn't necessarily wasn't necessarily like a positive in that

(35:32):
sense that like, you know, but I appreciate it. I
appreciate it they put more work into the sharks for that,
and I also did like that the use of the
cages in some of that. You know, I think one
of the things I like about shark movies more than
other movies is that generally there isn't like a shark wrangler.
It's not like, you know, bringing a real tiger or
a real bear on and you're just like, the poor
animal doesn't really want to be in a movie. At
least with a shark movie, you know you're gonna use

(35:54):
cgi sharks and things like that and puppets and things,
and so you don't have to worry about like sharks
having to be you know, on set for three hours
or whatever to do whatever they've got to do.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah. Well, I find with shark films, when they have
real footage, it's generally the sharks like eating like a
big chunk of meat that's being used as bait, and
the shark's probably okay with that. But this isn't animal abuse.
It's just being fed. It doesn't it's been filmed. But yeah,
quite a lot of films are just having having sharks
eating a pot roast and having a great time with it.

(36:27):
I did. There's a bit here where I don't think
we see the shark eating the bait, but you see
the remnants of what's left like being thrown back into
I think it's Tom's face, and it's just like a
bloody bit of rope or like it's not there's no
meat on it at all or anything. It's clearly just
like frayed cloth and rope. This is supposed to look

(36:49):
like kind of sinew or whatever. But it's just a
bit of rope, a bit of cloth sack. I've not
seen it. I think this is the first shark film
we've covered where a shark takes out our rote control
as well. I don't think we've had that before.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
And they used the same gag with that right where
he tries to pull the remote control boat in or wait,
you're thinking of the remote Okay, the kids. I think
the submarine with the camera on it. But you're right
about the kids, because you know the thing with the
boat with the kids. I think that's one of those
situations where they want you to know like, hey, we're
gonna go to the line here, but we're not gonna

(37:26):
take it that far. They want you to think like
maybe we will kill these kids, and you know you're
watching a completely different movie. And then they're just like, no,
we're not actually gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, we're not Jaws. Don't we know we're not going
to kill the little kid and a boy, he's safe.
Have you seen tentacles?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
No? No, I haven't seen that one the.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Tentacles kills a baby. It's like you don't see it,
but there's like a pram left by the water. In
one shot, a bus go has passed and the pram's gone.
Then it's like a tentacle. It's tentacles, doesn't doesn't fall around.
You want to see Sheddy Winters in the biggest hat
ever made. Watch tentacles all cars, and it's never referenced.

(38:14):
No one mentioned that. I don't understand. It's traumatized by
the size of that hat. Yeah. We get some some
classic bay Watch slow motion running a few times here,
mainly mainly Thorston k just there's a couple of a
couple of moments he gets the slow motion run. I
don't know if we needed that. I didn't mind it,
but it just seems like, why, why, why just for
these two moments and nothing else in the film. I

(38:36):
don't know, it look cool, I.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Guess to your point, this movie had this some of
this bullyard, basy kind of sensibility to it, where it's
just like, let's just throw everything in and it's almost
like every five minutes they had to have something that
referenced something else, and uh yeah, so the slow motion
run was another one.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I feel like they may have taken from the Roger
Corman filmmaking school.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Of it.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Every five to minutes you have to have was an explosion, death,
a car chase, or nudity, which actually there is one.
I don't like, the gratuitous, and there's one here was
people hang out on the beach and it's just how
oh yeah, this lady's topless reading and we'd never see
her again and what was that she just have that footage?

(39:28):
I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I didn't care
for that, but I kind of skipped her earlier. But
my favorite death is the guy in the aquarium because
you can see it coming a mile away that like
Nick even says, like the sharks in the aquarium, no
one's going to get hurt. Okay, well let's start my

(39:51):
start my timer, now, shall we. And so next doing
a tour, he's told everyone don't feed the sharks until
after the tour, and his evil boss it's like, next
to the tour, let's feed the sharks, And so they
feed the sharks, and I wasn't quite sure, like why
wait until after the tour, but clearly Nick was concerned
that they were going to feed the sharks with a
big bit of meat tied to a rope that the

(40:12):
guy would then stand on. That was his concern because
obviously the chuck takes the meat, pulls the rope to
the guy pulls in the water and gets eaten.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Which I mean, if you were a kid going on.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
A field trip, best day ever, I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Best, like the most traumatic thing, like like I have
to feel like you've got like months of like goodwill
with your parents. Sure, you know, just like I want
pizza for dinner tonight. Really we just had pizza last night.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
You can't. I saw a man. I saw the life
leave a man's eyes.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Exactly. I'm still imagining your mom. I still see this
half horso flowing, you know, Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I haven't slept in weeks. What I see is Kenny
Kenny leg still kicking.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yes to your point, though, it is so hilarious the
way it goes where it's like when you see the
rope starting to go and it's it's uncoiling, and you
know what's going to happen to him and all that stuff,
and it's like yeah, and then when he gets pulled
in and and you're just like, wow, they're gonna do
it right in front of those kids. But you know,
it's like it's almost like the moment he says, feed him,

(41:28):
feed the shark, even though you know the doctor said
don't ye, yeah, and then I don't. The thing I
didn't understand was what caused him to escape after that.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, no idea. I had the same questions because the
shock don't I don't know, you see the shock eats
Kenny and then just books it just gets out of
us because something clicks inside Nick's head is like the
gate shut. The gate is like the gate is already shot.
He he Why are you were missing something here where

(42:02):
Kenny fell on the button that opened the gate or something,
or like the rope that the shark pools is some
kind of lock on it. But yeah, no, unclear as
to how the shark gets out, and then why Nick
is blamed for the shark when he was doing a
tour of the aquarium at the same time. But like,
all of this would have been saved. There's been so

(42:22):
many deaths in these films. If they put a rail
around the pool, just just put a rail, Kenny could
have hit the rail. Click. But no, never in these films.
Every time we get dragged in the water and they die,
and yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
It could have been They could have been more of
a cab death if there was a rail and he
was like stuck on the rail while the shark was
pulling him.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Baby, and then yes, either way, not great for Kenny. Yeah,
that was my favorite moment. My notice for the first
shark type film. That was different about that one than
anything else. There was so many autopsies. There's like three
or four shark ops autopsies of real sharks. They can't
open real dead sharks in that film, and I did

(43:04):
like that we we still had one here. Nick's got
it like a doctor buddy who's got the guy with
the crutch. He has a shark cops autopsy at one point,
So I'm glad, Hey go back to the first film.
Good they did that, wonderful. But they also find an
underwater cave full of great white sharks, which is also
something we haven't seen from I guess under Paris as

(43:27):
an underwater k full of sharks, but that was made
well well after this. But yeah, weren't They find that
the sharks from the first film were all female, which
was not mentioned in the first film, and they were
all pregnant, also not mentioned in the first film, and
they gave birth to many many many great white sharks
which are now living in this other water cave. They're
a year old, but the size and the adult sized

(43:51):
but like child proportioned, so they're going to get huge,
which you know, I know that that shark Tak three
is Megalodon, So my guess would be that one of
these ones survives and becomes huge. I don't know, I'll say, I.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Can't remember if that's what it is, or if it's
just like an old ancient shark that gets like unfrozen
and goes down to Mexico.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
I'll find out soon, hopefully. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I haven't seen that one in fo because a lot
of times when I watch I'm really just showing people
that one, you know, one John Barrowman line and that show.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
That's all I know about the film is not one line.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
The other piece of it is I collect. I don't
have to collect this the right term. But when I
watch my director video movies, I look for presidential portraits,
which I guess you know, Shark Attack two has Nelson Mandela, Yeah,
but Shark Attack three has George W. Bush plus Dick Cheney,
which I don't know if that was a joke about
who was actually president that it was usually you don't
see that, but actually will from exploding helicopter. I came

(44:49):
to what movie it was, but he saw one that
had not only the president and the vice president but
also the Secretary of Defense. So that was like a
big one for me. I was like, wow that, you know,
go all through there, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, don't start looking for films with like prime minister
portraits in them. There's not there's not many. I think
you find many.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Well. I think it's like like the like Shirk a
Tack three, they have the Sente Padilla, who is the
president of Mexico. So I wonder if it's more like
movies that think they've got to have the president like
they do for America, like oh to show that's that
the UK will just have you know, Margaret Thatcher, you
know John Major or something like that.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, I can't even think of. I think Love actually
probably does because I think you Grant talks to Margret
Thatcher at some point. Okay, call her a saucy minx.
I think anyway she should not do because she's a
bad person, evil, But there we are. Yeah, And they
referenced doctor Graven being in the first film and doing

(45:49):
his his experiments. So I do like that this is
a direct equal because Deepest two they don't reference Deep
C one at all. I think, well they do that,
isn't this in Aquatica is like the most that they
might say DEPC two a beautiful plot. In Deep C two,
Michael Beach plays a character who's trying to he's experimenting

(46:10):
in bull sharks to make them more intelligent, to create
a serum that he can then drink to make him
more intelligent so he can fight the robots coming from
the robot apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
That sounds amazing. I'n't only the streamers that I have,
so it's it's a rent only one, but I yeah,
I may have to just just, you know, go for it.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
And then DPC three is some of those sharks got
out and went somewhere else and they're now having to
deal with it. A simpler plot, but yeah. So one
of our regular guests, Kevin Culp, who has watched every
shark film ever made I think he coined the term
whenever there's any kind of an event happening on the

(46:56):
water that should be canceled but isn't, and then they
think they feel bad. It didn't cancel it. It's called
a regretta because it's a regatta. They regret it's a regretta,
and so there is one hair. So I always like
to hey, we've got another regretta. The serving competition, it's
not not a big part of the film, but it
is the central carnage fascinator a great job with it.

(47:18):
The character of Sam, her main goal in any situation
is to shoot it with a shotgun. There's more than
one numerous occasions where she that's what she brings. She
has a vendetta against his shark that she thinks that
what it did it killed her sister, so she breaks
into the aquarium with a shotgun to kill it. I

(47:38):
do love that our female lead has a revenge vendetta
against the shark. That's fantastic. It's she got it one
eye because she stabs the other with a knife.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Well, I love just the idea of them calling shark's murderers,
because because not only does does she call the shark
murder and then Roy he's like, you know, they just
say murmuring baskets or whatever he says, you know, and
then he's.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Like, sharks are evils.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Die.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
It's like can't explain them, Like, no, no, they're animals.
They've been around a lot longer than us. They're just
kind of doing their thing out there. Yes, we somebody
has you know, some genetically engineered some bad ones and
we need to uh maybe put these ones down. But overall,
sharks are not murderers. They're you know, that's not you know,
they're like sort of walking like like you know, to

(48:29):
to the you know, the character Sam right, you know,
they're not walking around in black outfits with a black
mask on, you know, to kill people exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, And thought in case, like backstory, like you know,
he would swimming when he's younger, and he got lost
and he got attacked by a tiger shark and he
was in its mouth and he came to the realization like, oh,
this shark could kill me and it doesn't. So they're
not just mindless killing machines. And he gained a new
found respects. So that's what sharks need to do. They

(49:01):
need to attack people will not kill them. They would
improve their reputation. He needed two hundred and ninety seven stages,
which sounded like a lot to me, and I googled it,
and that's actually not that that not. That's not uncommon
for shark attacks. It's not a shark defense. It's not
shark attacks. Don't go near the shark. It won't but

(49:22):
it won't buy you. That's what we learned from these films.
Stay out of the water. God damn it.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Well, at the very least, I think mayors and people
who run theme parks or whatever, just right if shark
experts say there's sharks in the water, yeah, it's like
where I grew up in New England, fortunately, like we've
never really had. I think sharks come further down the coast,
but where I lived in Maine, it was just so

(49:50):
cold that sharks didn't bother. But there are like we
deal with like rip currents, and it's like when they
tell you be careful the water with rip currents, the
idea of just being like that, I don't care about
the current. I'm just gonna go out there and get
pulled out there. You know. They just sharks will do
the same thing. Like people are like, now there's sharks
out there, It's like, okay, you know. I guess when
I would go visit my grandparents in Florida, they would
have shark warnings and sharks. Like, okay, I'm I'm going

(50:12):
swimming today. There's a sign that says there's sharks. You know,
I might get my feet in a little bit, you know,
just up to my ankles and that's twenty for me.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, that's sensible. I mean I I live on the
coastal town on south of England, always have done pretty
much and I've never seen a shark along there. But
you know you've had warnings they're out there and it
says warnings, I don't go to swimming.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Simple.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, it's quite easy to do.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
And you postpone the surfing contest.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yes, it's a it's a pain that everybody is coming
out for the state.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
But you know that's why that will survive exactly. It
seems so simple, It seems so straightforward.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Instead of setting up the surfer buffet for the sharks.
And I mean it's like once they show up, they're
just like, oh this is beautiful. They just start picking up,
you know, surfers all over the place and just grabbing them.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah. So the other part of this film that's that's unique.
As before in the climax, the climax has we've got
this device that's gonna draw these sharks to it, and
the we're gonna blow them up. That's in a bunch
of these films, a lot of the I think the
whole every film with the Piranha franchise ends with all
the parana live there, it's gonna blow it up. And

(51:27):
but this so this one has a device. They accidentally
set off the timer. So Roy is like, I'm gonna,
you know, su aside missioned, go in there and draw
them in there. He managed to get out. But whilst
he's doing that, Nick and Sam encounter one other shark,
which I thought that the whole point was all of
the sharks are going in there, and this one is like,
not me, I'm hanging out here, and the shark attacks them.

(51:48):
They've made a big deal of this modified glock that
can fire underwater, and somehow like Nick gets hold of
that and he executes the shark at point blank range
from the side of the head. I have ever seen
that any of these films before. I kind of loved it.
It's just a means of dispatching. Yeah, I love sharks.
I don't think we should shoot sharks, but as a

(52:09):
means of doing it, just shooting it in the side
of the head. It was glorious.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, I completely agree, because I'm usually someone who roots
for the sharks when I watch these movies, and so
for me to enjoy it. But the look on the
like kind of a blank look on the shark puppet
space after like the half of its you know, like
the bullet accident and everything, which is so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, just just the brain. Have you seen the new
court stealing the new film often Butler film.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I haven't seen that one yet.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Now, shooting someone on the side of the head is
kind of like a running theme a little bit, and
it's not as boiler and so I saw that like
two days ago. So that's just in my head, like
execution style shooting. Oh it's in this film too. How odd?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Maybe Aaron Osky was watching Shark Attack too, was just inspired.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Oh I hope, So, I hope that's that's that.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
He does as decide. He does have a directive video
connection Soldier Boys. This movie that actually will exploding helicopter
cover that I was on. He was assistant director on that.
It's like a Michael dudicaf director director video movie. And
Aeronowski's there as I could you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I mean eight's going to to direct this, Like d
PC's one of the the ads is the guy who
made Final Station two. Remember his name right now. He
did two and four. We're going to talk about two.
That's the good one, David Alritis and then he did
Shot Attack three D and then he passed away. He

(53:40):
did Snakes on a Plane as well, so he like
we like David. Uh yeah, and he's he's eight on
the second eight on Depuh yeah, awesome, great, Well, did
you have anything else? Uh in Shark Attack too to
talk that we haven't mentioned he and covered.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
You know, I don't don't to think. I mean, I
think I love the character wearing NFL football, the Miami
Dolphins stuff, between the hat and the shirt. Yes, and
then the other piece of this, I thought that was
kind of fun. You know. One of the things I
think that about the Marvel comic movies that people liked,
especially the MCU once is the team ups. And I
did like the fact that, like, you know, you've got

(54:19):
our main character Thorston K who is kind of you know,
the shark expert guy, and then he sort of you know,
has this relationship with with the woman Sam. But then
Roy who is a jerk for all this time. After
he survives the first shark attack, he comes together and
the three of them kind of come together in team up.
I always like those kind of fun team ups, and
so I was kind of excited for that to see
the three of them all team up to try to

(54:40):
take these sharks down.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Yeah, when we meet Roy, I was like, right, this
guy's gonna die. It's gonna be glorious because he's there's
a very similar character shows up in Alligator and Alligator
to the Mutation. They both have these kind of characters
who both like. Actually, in the Mutation, he like comes
he is like a Cajun guy, comes in, is a cocky,
his whole team gets wiped out, he joins them, but

(55:03):
then he does get even in the end, Whereas in Allegator,
it's a guy who shows up in is it Chicago?
I think Ali has said, and he recruits the locals
to be his I think he even calls them like
the natives, and it's like some black kids from the
area who'd like become his tour guys. And he gets killed.
Uh So I was like this, it's this guy's got

(55:26):
one of those characters. But yeah, he has a full arc.
He like his men get taken out. He's he's fully humbled.
He almost gets taken out himself. He's like traumatized in
the scene of the Mayor and he comes around and
he's on said side and he tries to sacrifice himself
and he survives in the end. And yeah, it was
I didn't see that coming. I feel like I was

(55:46):
denied a glorious death sequence. But I was okay with
with miss and that because he's a fun character, Like, hey,
if you fix your hair and your face, you can
be on my show. Because he's a mirror. I was
of fun. I like that though. Yeah, well, whenever we
cover new films on this show, I have a little

(56:06):
features too, which is when I when I watch it,
I work out how deep all the action takes place,
that how blue everything on the screen is, and how
much of it takes place at sea, because of course
this is deeply see the podcast, So, Matt, deep blue
sea is sorry, it's approximately fourteen and a half meters

(56:27):
or fully seven and a half feet deep, about thirty
one percent blue, and eighty nine percent of it takes
place at c Do you think Shark Attack two is deeper, bluer,
and more at sea than deep blue sea, don't.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I don't bluer Maybe I don't know. I don't think
it's it's only gets deeper, and I don't think it's
more at sea. I think that that date sequence in
particular probably takes it out of the running.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
From being more at c absolutely correct, Yes, because they
go up in a cable car that really takes it
up in the air. So on Afria, well done. No
one ever thinks about that kind of thing, so thrilled
that someone else cares about life. So because of that
cable car sequence and going up on the mountain, I
looked up how high that cable car goes, and it

(57:12):
looks like how deep are the shipwrecks of Cape Town.
So this works out on average two point six meters
or eight point six feet up in the air, which
means it's one hundred and four on our ranking of
of depth. So it's slightly higher than Rennie Harlan's cleaner
the Sam Jackson crime scene cleaning them, and it's slightly
lower than the shape of water blueness. It is bluer

(57:36):
than deepersy. This is actually quite blue. It's forty seven
point two percent blue. Every time they go under water,
it's one hundred percent blue. All of the interiors the
aquarium of very blue. Pretty much everything that thorston K
is wearing is blue. So yeah said about forty seven
cent blue. So it is fifteenth on our blue ranking.

(57:58):
It's bluer than the water World. It's bluit and tentacles
and at C it is quite a bit of it.
See it is fourteenth well a C ranking. Fifty three
percent of it takes place to see, which is more
than Moana, more at C than Moana, less at See
than No Way Up a terrible shark movie. What about
playing that goes down in the sea? Don't watch? So

(58:23):
that will for shark attack too. Now that we know
these important facts, we can move on with our day.
Do you have anything you're a plug? Matt? Where can
o list Let's find you.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
So direct to Video Connoisseur. The site is a DTV
Connoisseur dot blogspot dot com. That's where you can find
all the site reviews and also links to everything there.
So links to our podcast on the DTV Connoisseur podcast
that's on all your major podcasters, so you know iTunes, Spotify,
even on YouTube. We are on YouTube as well. And
then the other thing is I write books. I've got

(58:53):
novels that I write, and so the most recent one
is called Nadia and Aiden. Aiden is spelled Ai d An,
so it's essentially Nadia backwards. And so if you go
on to Amazon and you type in Natty and Aiden,
you'll find it there. I always appreciate if someone wants
to pick that up.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Fantastic. What about social media? Any any links on there? Oh? Yes?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
So we are on blue Sky face So Facebook it's
slash Direct to Video connoisseur, I think, and then blue
Sky it's a DTV connoisseur. And then Instagram DTV connoisseur.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Fantastic and listen as you can follow this podcast all
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deep Spot at gmail dot com. Find everything Mark does
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lot happens there, so you don't need to worry about
going there next week. Next week? Is this is going

(59:45):
to come out in November? I want to say, uh,
I haven't even uplated the spreadsheets to when this is
coming out great. Next week will probably be an episode
covering a chapter of Deep Busy. I imagine this is yeah,
so come out next week for something deep withly related,
I'm sure. But as for Shark Attack, to thank you

(01:00:07):
once again to my wonderful guest Matt Warrior, I have
been jay Lee and I'm deep and I'll deep blue.
See you next week