May 24, 2023 • 26 mins
In this interview, we have special guest Charlotte North Carolina hip hop artist Cale Cost Boy Jr.
About Cale Cost Boy Jr.:
Artist and writer Cale Cost Boy Jr. is a native of Charlotte, North Carolina and a graduate of the Northwest School of the Arts, As an independent artist with his own style and stories, Cale has been able to capture the attention of listeners with his unique approach to hip hop. Born and raised in Charlotte, NC, Cale has lived through experiences that have helped shape his music and helped shape his sound. Cale's musical influences include LL Cool J, Kendrick Lamar, Kodak Black, and Lil Yachty to name a few.
The music video for "Supernova" is a visual representation of Cale's journey as a rising star in the hip-hop scene complete with HD cinematography, models, and more. "Supernova" was produced by Shooter Productions and Vision V Films. The video was directed by Gamble and is a must-watch for fans of Cale's music and music fans looking for a club-banging video.
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About Cale Cost Boy Jr.:
Artist and writer Cale Cost Boy Jr. is a native of Charlotte, North Carolina and a graduate of the Northwest School of the Arts, As an independent artist with his own style and stories, Cale has been able to capture the attention of listeners with his unique approach to hip hop. Born and raised in Charlotte, NC, Cale has lived through experiences that have helped shape his music and helped shape his sound. Cale's musical influences include LL Cool J, Kendrick Lamar, Kodak Black, and Lil Yachty to name a few.
The music video for "Supernova" is a visual representation of Cale's journey as a rising star in the hip-hop scene complete with HD cinematography, models, and more. "Supernova" was produced by Shooter Productions and Vision V Films. The video was directed by Gamble and is a must-watch for fans of Cale's music and music fans looking for a club-banging video.
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Hi. I'm singer, songwriter andactor Robert of Anet, and you're tuning
into deeper than music, the coreof you, the fans, the truth,
but symthing. The truth is thelenked, the sick, the core
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of you, the fans, thetruth mu symthy, The truth is the
leaked, the new music. Goodmorning, good evening, good afternoon,
wherever you are in the world.Deeper than music, Behind every great song,
there's an even greater story. Ilike to say, what's up to
everybody listening to us on Spotify,Audible, Amazon, Alexa, Uh,
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Joe Savin out in India, inthe UK, and also we're now on
out the Box Radio every Monday fourthirty I'm sorry, four to six thirty
Central Standard time, so check usout there if you're in the DFW area
and on Live three sixty five.So today's ladies and gentlemen, we have
a very special guest who's also representingthe state that I relocated to, North
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Carolina. UM. He also hasa new video music video and also a
song super Nova. UM. Youcan catch him on Spotify and also he
was he's a graduate of Northwest Schoolof Arts. UM. He's an independent
artist. You definitely want to checkhim out, Ladies and gentlemen. Today
we have special guests calicoss Boy Juniorhere repping North Carolina. Here on Deeper
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the Music. How you're doing whatever? Man doing pretty good? Man.
So I see we got Supernova andthen we also you had a previous movies
called Black Times, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Um. So my first question
is man, because I like toask this question and I'm kind of gonna
date myself. Um, but NorthCarolina is home of some like I just
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recently found out Nina Simone, themusic of great It's from North Carolina.
Of course we got cole Um,Sunshine Anderson. But when I normally think
of North Carolina, Man, theguy that created an answer for me twenty
years ago was Pete Pablo. Um, you know, waiting like a helicopter.
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Um, so to the people listeningand not really truly immersed. Well
you know, of course we knowJ Cole. How would you just describe
to the music scene in North Carolinaand what they're bringing to hip hop?
Um, I just believe you know, it's it's been creative, creative at
this point. Um, I believecertain standards have, man, we loose
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you know what, furtherest, puttingthe old with the little. You know,
it's furthest. You know, peoplesampling stuff like that and us picking
up on you know, drill drillmusic. But I believe it's just it's
a capture of global you know,hip hop. You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, because there's many people fromdifferent states here in this city right
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here, and all bring news,you know, bring new styles, bringing
flows, you know what I'm saying. So I believe people grasp only that,
and um, you know, theymake the best they can out of
it here. Okay, okay,And then speaking of you, keep speaking
of you man, So let's startfrom the beginning. Um, did you
know from a young age that youwanted to be a musical artist? Yeah?
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Yeah, you know, video gamesa lot and you know, playing
stuff I was supposed to. ButI used to just hear a lot of
music, and my dad used toplay a lot of you know, hip
hop music, and I like,man, you know they'd be like,
you didn't know, you don't knowthat about this right here? So then
you know, I see he certainmusic and get certain songs on video games.
So then you grasped to it.Then that started liking into you know,
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jay Z, Biggie Nas to popstuff like that. Started freestyling at
a young age, you know,thinking, you know, thinking, thinking
I was freestyling, which you know, so I was putting it together as
slow as it came. Man,And I believe at this point, you
know, we walked into this stuffand became this right here. And you
know, going to a performing artsschool, you know. So yeah,
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okay, okay, And um doyou come from you said, like your
father introduced you to hip hop?Do you come from a musical family or
the background? Granddad played piano,saxophone. Um, he was a coach
at Spot Metal you know. Umyeah, my uncle DJ Live was a
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DJ like that back in the day. Okay, So you know my dad
was just always with the red formlike you know what I'm saying. We
got the beat machines, we gotthe tarn tables, were around the food
tables, you know what I'm saying. And you know, they was kicking
their way how they was kicking,and you know, I kind of just
caught a pine, you know,and um just got that role seeing them
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do it, and I've been aroundit. You know, my little freestyle
and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
And you mentioned a few people likejay Z who are your music influences Like
you mentioned jay Z you mentioned asyeah yeah with them alone said you know
and now that hip hop is changingand different, but that's that's what I
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coastly, but adding oh the newyou know what I mean. And they
got songs with various artists like youknow myself, you know, people like
you know, a little Dirt,you know what I'm saying, little the
bag, you know, the baby, little baby stuff like that, Yeah,
building lot criticking. I just feellike my influences could be a few
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locals, you know what I'm saying. Okay, okay, okay, I
would say the Charlotte Wrap. Youknow what I'm saying. It's building now
let alone. Yeah, the baby, you know what I'm saying, came
out, you know, I givehim a surprise. So yeah, you
could be one and just seeing themergery of certain artists going from here and
here, So I would say alittle baby, the baby, um,
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you know, rescue peace, butespecially Ncy hustle, you know, kind
of climbed away as you know,hustling and music, you know, um,
trying to think I got I'm init, I'm in it, I
got I got about four or fivethree of them, Okay, No,
I'll mean that school. I gotan idea. Now, Um, so
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when did you first start rapping?Man? At what age were you like,
look, I'm gonna do this,I'm gonna become an MC. Do
you remember that? Like like yeah, yeah, I would say seriously,
probably was like eighteen and graduated graduatingthe four School of Arts. And um,
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I did as a paper on umsony and you know, talking about
the digital we moving music to whereit is okay, and m I was
just speculating and I went to thestudio. She was like, you can
just give me three songs since yougot a rap and this was my you
know, writing teacher, and umI went away three songs somewhere at the
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studio man, and um, yeah, I just knew I had the factors.
I just knew I had them,you know what I'm saying, the
fastest time heads, you know whatI mean. And making good comfortable music,
you know, music that makes sense, sound good and you can feel
it, you know what I mean? So yeah, yeah, man,
man and up yeah, And howwas that like going to a school of
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arts. Was that specifically like thecreative arts performing arts? And yeah,
yeah, yeah it was. Itwas a school a lot of things like
all right, you know dance,you know singing, you know theater,
so you know, rus getting alittle function of every one of them.
At first one when I was waring, I'm so scared, but you know
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you had to sing in front alot of people and do whatever you did
for a lot of people to movein. They didn't get in. So
I did that, got into school, you know, keeping my grades episode.
So yeah, I started going tocores um change require and stuff like
that. So I also learning myvoice, okay, and you feel that
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that helped you, like yeah,because I mean, one thing is one
thing to write, but then it'salso and I say, one thing that
made Pop a great artist was andeven Biggie Um was the cadence. But
you also have to remote you also, like people there could be a dope
rapper, but if you ain't,if it's not believable and it sounding like
you're reading from the paper, youknow what I mean? Like right,
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so that's facts. Yeah, becauseyou know it was our business. You
know you're gonna do it the rightway, do the right thing. You
know, you failed, you know, and it was actually classes, you
know, it wasn't like you knowafter school thing. You know, we
got actual credits for being in thoseclasses doing that, you know what I'm
saying. So that's what that That'swhat that did and motivated me outside of
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me. So I just took thatsame aspect as we was in class.
When I go in the studio,you know, we ain't playing around just
sitting around smoking, and you know, we're straight business getting this, you
know, trying to make a record, you know what I mean. And
yeah, like I said at theend of the show, we're gonna play
your songs so the listeners can hear. So for the listeners listening now,
like, what do you bring thehip hop man? What do you How
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do you describe your your your flavorand what do you bringing to hip hop?
Nostalgicness man, nostalgicness is streaking nostalgicagainst you know what I'm saying.
I like soundple music, you knowwhat I mean, but so much more
like I like people reverbing those sounds, you know what I'm saying. If
we recreate something, I want somebodythat sound. Probably liked that, but
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you actually exercise in your voice.It ain't somebody just expanding the track.
You know what it's paying you know, and I like live instruments stuff like
that. Okay, Like my thingof it is, it's not just the
trap wrap. It's not just thestreet. You know what I'm saying.
Um, it's not just to youknow, turn up musical club music.
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You know, I got I gotWest Coast. I'm talking about up north,
down South, Atlanta, Florida.You know what I'm saying. It
ain't nothing in my catalog that youcan't go out to or I got to
know too, you understand. So, and that's going on even the new
projects. It is because you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
believe I just got a lot ofpositivity to answer your question and just nuity
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like nuity, like just the moveand show people like Yo. It's it's
it's more than greatness to what wecall a hip hop and college. It's
a culture thing. You know whatI'm saying. Because at first, you
know, people were just taking itas a joke. Now we set in
examples. You said, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah
hip hop. Yeah, it's notthrough headed inners through the moves. So
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the thing that caught I mentioned thatyou and your your report that you mentioned
Sony and then digital. So you'vealready seen the digital the digital wage coming
as far as like the music industrychanging, Yeah, that's a fact.
Yeah man man um. So wementioned we described the music. Can you
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tell the people your catalog, likewhat you got out and what you're currently
working on. Yeah, you know, we put out the single Supernova in
between cali um what what the fuck? They know? The EP six song
EP and yeah we ran with thatand we got a new various project coming
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out, trap Bag, you know, and a pair of a pair for
that well you know what I'm saying. I can go check that out.
Okay, Yeah, just really uhbuilt catalog and still building up. You
know what I'm saying. It's it'sto the it's to the tallest tower,
you know what I'm saying. Andthe perfect climb. So it's like we
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we just still climbing, you knowwhat I mean. And you know everything
is there though, you know whatI mean. We just want to be
fair how we put out the music, you know, even certain samples and
stuff we use, you know whatI'm saying, and we're paying for them.
You know, we recording intros,going back doing you know, ad
libs and stuff on certain stuff perfecting. So yeah, yeah yeah. And
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then we also like you you mentionedthe production side and how you like music.
So I gotta ask you, man, who are your your top producers
in the game, Like if youif you had to collaborate, Okay,
this is a two part question.If you had to collaborate with an artist,
who would that artist be or artists? And then also like produce producer
wise, who would you like tocollaborate with? UM? I definitely,
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I definitely would say what you mean, like I have the city anywhere?
Oh anywhere man in the city,out of the city, like dream collaborations.
Yeah, I say, like Isay, like the city if you
have I know you heard the slimHood yep, you know, Platinum plus
UM and I'll say any artists inthe city. I give it a one
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to two. I'll do a featurewith with the baby, UM feature with
faty Pa. You know what Imean? Okay, what is your creative
process? Man? How do you? Um? How do you create?
Is it the lyrics first or doyou have an instrumental and then you just
paint with words around that instrumental.What's your creative process? Um, the
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damns I always been offended by Ialways been offended by the thing when people
say, remember, you know whatI'm saying, we came up on it.
I remember when me Go started peoplesomething about with this, and I'm
like, nah, you know theycreate creative, you know they created with
auto tune, t paintings created.Yeah, I believe the writing process or
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there's a difference between somebody just punchingit and then knowing when they go in
the studio, how they gonna youknow what I'm saying, how they're gonna
come with them, how they're gonnacome with the words, how they gonna
come with and even out of containsa difference and how you say things.
And it's like some things you gotto really know the like the back of
your hand. Yeah yeah, yeah. I just think like my best process
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with me is hearing the beat first, um, listening to what I can
feel in my head when I feellike just what I feel fig you know
what I'm saying, has a personsaving the rap, the new the new,
the new wave like um, evenlingo and stuff like that, you
know, what I mean, andso much of you heard people say certain
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stuff like y'all put that in songeand make that up. So with that
being said, I might play thebeat, freestyle rap what I'm feeling to
a voice the moment, and thenuh, from then and then I just
you know, right what's real andyeah, yeah, I don't critiqued it.
You know, it's in my style, it's my format, and that's
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how I create that like that,so yeah, you know what you know
what's crazy? Yuh? God?Hold on from minute? Hey, Hey,
yeah, man's dog park tenting helmand barking up U. Yeah,
so what's crazy? Man? Isum? I heard like Biggie would like
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be in the studio sleeping and thenwake up. I got it, you
know what I mean? Like likeyou said, like sometimes I um,
I have my little recorder on myphone and I have some inspiration and I
record it or something I'm like beforeI go to bed, and then like
you said, like when it comesto a B or something, yo,
I'm gonna use that. And thenyou also remind me of like jazz,
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you know, like a cold TranMiles Davis. That was all improvisation.
You know what I'm saying they improvit. So like you said, man,
you could either have you could eitherwrite it. A creative process is
a creative process, and good musicis good music. Um yea. So
so I feel you on that.Um So. We we spoke on a
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lot and again thank you for takingthe time to come out here. What
has been your biggest challenge, umin the music industry? Like, what
would you say is something that hasbeen like challenging so far your career?
I would say wasting wasting my ownwasting my own time, my own values
with certain certain certain people with differentstandards around me, you know what I
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mean, and reevaluate myself at thesame time, because it ain't like I
don't want to do better and likeI ain't trying to change. It's more
like you know, when you anddabtys to doing something that you was used
to, there wasn't life for you. And when you step in that pattern
trying to do right for yourself.You know what I mean, you got
things it's coming at you. Itdon't want you to do right for yourself
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or for the aspect or you changingyour life and others. You see what
I'm saying, And how seriousness isand keeping the business you know what I
mean? Yeah, standard to theutmost hot and you know your character at
best and you know respect, youknow what I mean. Honestly ain't know
my loyalty with my team. SoI just say with that being said,
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I just work harder. And umyou know I praised that now, you
know, and I did things,stay on it much harder, even when
writing songs. I'm like, man, writing this right now, Man,
I go back to the studio thisweek. You know at that time,
you know, yeah, so itwas grace and you know, but that
being said and ventioning the motivation,Um, it just built this character right
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here, bro, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you like, you
know, man, you know howit is, Man, you have to
be disciplined. And then sometimes especiallyin the in the industry, Man,
there's people that will try to getyou to compromise. And I like how
you say, Man, you stayon your own when you hold your integrity
and keep to keep to that path. And on the flip side, like
what has been so far in yourcareer, the most rewarding moment, like
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something like Man, I'm feeling thisright here. Yeah, I would say,
but you know, man, whenthe music would get mixed some master.
I don't coordinate putting. You knowthese projects that used together from the
photo shoots. You know, you'relike, man, I want to look
when they put it all together.This it's like yo, you know,
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hearing about the streams and you knowthe views on the single super and over
the video subscribe you know, slowlybut shortotte, but you know we're working.
We're getting there. And definitely,man, you know hearing that,
you know they ready to see meperform, man, and yeah, get
to it, you know with that, so yeah, you know you're ready
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to got them take the lockout,you know, take put the kid in
the lock take it off. Yeah, twenty three for real. So man,
Yeah, it's just so much.I'm like impatient. I'm like I
can't wait to track this project.I can't wait. So man and in
the super over Man is hot Man, and it's more to come. Yeah,
a lot of people like it,like, you know, a lot
of females like it. You know, kids starting you know, so yeah,
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sou so moving forward. So likefifty forty years from now, Man,
you made your legacy. You youyou you made that imprint, you
got that Hollywood Walk of Fame star. When it's all set and done,
Man, what do you want yourlegacy to be in your impact on the
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on the music greatness? You know, I was qualifying from my desperation,
like taking it to the lights ofshowing anybody like yo. You know you
could be here this small, youcould be here as big, or you
could be right in the mental youknow what I'm saying. But what's the
most what's the most important to do? It's pay attention. But how you
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elevating your own self? You know, your own ship. So I believe
I got a lot to share inthat aspect. And I believe just being
great man, you know, beinggreat being one of the ones that say
he was the highest, he wasdope. He capt got the ring and
packed it out, you know whatI'm saying. He went to the studio,
he did that, you know whatI mean. So yeah, every
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project that dropped, you know whatI mean. I don't never wanted to
be a stable where it's like,yo, these two projects was happen,
This one ain't every time, youknow what I'm saying, And so yeah,
and losing it and from that on, mean we're talking about making movies
and commercials and little stuff like that, you know, trying to get add
on in. So yeah, yeahwith me, you know what I mean,
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you know what I'm saying. Butyeah, and you're definitely on your
way. Man again, thank you. Um gotta cost dream dream and so
my last question, but before youget to last question, man, where
it's seamless promotion time? Where canpeople hear your music? Just? Where
are you? Man? Where wherecan they find you? I was streaming
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platform Spotify title. You know whatI'm saying, Our tunes music, Apple
Music, you know what I'm saying, um whatever everyone else you know that's
been saying. But till you knowthe pail, y'all can definitely follow me
at at Callie c a Eli Underscorecls t Boy Dot Jr or r g
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as Cossboy dot Junior. And yeahman my Facebook Twitter, I'll that the
same. So yeah, you know, okay, and then um, last
question Callie Cossboy Junior. What doesmusic mean to you? Like? I
mean, so it's a perfect canvasto pant plank, to really shit on.
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You know what I'm saying. Youknow every we're telling you that I'm
being through um all these you know, ups and downs and understanding that this
is This is not a this isnot just a progress. This is a
message, and we gotta progress itthe right way, you know what I
mean. Yeah, thank you.Keep selling dope. We can't keep selling
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crime. We can't keep selling disrespectingwomen, hitching my kids won't. So
I believe we can have fun withit in a way. And then you
know, at the end of theday, you gotta let him know the
ends and outs. And that's whatit always been. You know, you
can't never leave the people wrong.You know, that's what they're trying to
you know, that's what certain peopletrying to kill in our value. You
know, it's black people, youknow what I mean. And we got
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to just stay strong, I meanyeah, yep. And ladies and gentlemen.
Another great interview. Cally calls BoyJunior and we're gonna be closing out,
you know, deeper than music withSuperno And I'm curious kind of cass
Boy Junior signing off people. Idon't know, check it out. Just
what the classy and mama she did. But she classy, just wanta sways
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the ball. She nice to sitwith a fan. Mama freak to man
say, I like that because sheclass, I gotta get them balls this
a little bit. Then she nasty. I got that supernoal color superno.
I got the super Solia busting downbell Songer with that man. Tell me,
Nigga, I got the super bowndidn't know that. I get come
bears like my bro bad. I'mtaking bitch for now like quota. Oh,
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she has my number one mom andshares my trap. Queen baby mama
bitch, I told her. Humtrying to run up on some mother ship.
Nigga's faith the fun that can.I made the ball really on the
supper ship. They ain't about thismoney like me. I'm too icy,
but better pemper fuck up in hiswhite team and then white and beat every
bad bitch in the club. Donnalike me. No, I can't white
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deeper if I had to wipe thebit by Icy and roll around with vs
Damadzon and Nigga Luis feet to nikesand run up the man's though she a
roal bitch. Though ain't got alittle groupie beach. I got a new
bitch. The keys should puts thereeds, so send some mother ship.
Puts me on some mother said shelike my not to TWI and she like
the fuck and she like the fruitand fold. I don't just eat and
go say I'll beat a pussy swow. Okay, just with the glassy here
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little mama. She did, butshe classy. Just while we swearing the
ball. She nice to see witha fanny. My moca freaked to nasty.
I like that because she class Igotta get them balls because this little
bit then she nasty. I gotthis superno. I did colored superno.
I got the super Solia plusting downbells on it with that man. Come
me, nigga, I got thissuper They know that I got the bells
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out of my bro bad. I'mtaking pitch. But now like corder.
Okay, she had that money.I know. Fido still rocking your bowls.
No skinny jeans because the pistol likecarry y'allman doing big things on the
stiff front. Water came over.Sluper niggas doing big things for the yo
fella like ice of water. Igot them pobs, put them on your
know they like the front. Hey, you know that they like the flag.
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You know I've been popping sad sincethe y'all nigga, since a gad
bag since a little nigga were badbad, so my little nigga dad were
bad bad. Fatita told my daddyI was bad. Slide on my eyes
water ober ass, slid with myglot with a google man. I was
walking around with a blue flag,trying to shor on what a shuit about?
Trying to shor what I do aboutthe fucking nigga. We could shoot
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it out. Ain't buy smoke,ain't buy the brain. But don't make
me. Just get on your assand go on here to put you off
for a pair. Oh, justwith the glad dal love Mama. She
did, but she classy. Justwant to swamming the balls, she nice
to she with a fanny mama freakingto nasty. I like that because she
classy. I gotta get them ballsbecause the little bit then she nasty.
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I got that superno color superno Igot the super Sola busting down bells on
it with that man coming nigga.I got this super Bowl. Then know
that I got them bells out ofmy broad I'm taking a bit. But
now like Coter, let's see,I got you niggas a swandom shot,
but I got you looking to glassyour business. You want to come and
just get it popping off and thepop on her ass and know that the
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fresh sweat pressing wetting. No pressingthis. You ain't no teacher bus stuff
testing that d Nigga puts the inthey testing this. I'm in the billy,
riding in a test of truck onthe love of my style, like
them Nike, I'm running like Nike. Ain't your business? You want to
be my wife, but can't bemy wife? My style phone, but
no, they ain't buy the dog. Another the French as f in Ferrario, who m
Hi. I'm singer, songwriter andactor Robert of Anet, and you're tuning
into deeper than music, the coreof you, the fans, the truth,
but symthing. The truth is thelenked, the sick, the core
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of you, the fans, thetruth mu symthy, The truth is the
leaked, the new music. Goodmorning, good evening, good afternoon,
wherever you are in the world.Deeper than music, Behind every great song,
there's an even greater story. Ilike to say, what's up to
everybody listening to us on Spotify,Audible, Amazon, Alexa, Uh,
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Joe Savin out in India, inthe UK, and also we're now on
out the Box Radio every Monday fourthirty I'm sorry, four to six thirty
Central Standard time, so check usout there if you're in the DFW area
and on Live three sixty five.So today's ladies and gentlemen, we have
a very special guest who's also representingthe state that I relocated to, North
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Carolina. UM. He also hasa new video music video and also a
song super Nova. UM. Youcan catch him on Spotify and also he
was he's a graduate of Northwest Schoolof Arts. UM. He's an independent
artist. You definitely want to checkhim out, Ladies and gentlemen. Today
we have special guests calicoss Boy Juniorhere repping North Carolina. Here on Deeper
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the Music. How you're doing whatever? Man doing pretty good? Man.
So I see we got Supernova andthen we also you had a previous movies
called Black Times, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Um. So my first question
is man, because I like toask this question and I'm kind of gonna
date myself. Um, but NorthCarolina is home of some like I just
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recently found out Nina Simone, themusic of great It's from North Carolina.
Of course we got cole Um,Sunshine Anderson. But when I normally think
of North Carolina, Man, theguy that created an answer for me twenty
years ago was Pete Pablo. Um, you know, waiting like a helicopter.
(02:14):
Um, so to the people listeningand not really truly immersed. Well
you know, of course we knowJ Cole. How would you just describe
to the music scene in North Carolinaand what they're bringing to hip hop?
Um, I just believe you know, it's it's been creative, creative at
this point. Um, I believecertain standards have, man, we loose
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you know what, furtherest, puttingthe old with the little. You know,
it's furthest. You know, peoplesampling stuff like that and us picking
up on you know, drill drillmusic. But I believe it's just it's
a capture of global you know,hip hop. You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, because there's many people fromdifferent states here in this city right
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here, and all bring news,you know, bring new styles, bringing
flows, you know what I'm saying. So I believe people grasp only that,
and um, you know, theymake the best they can out of
it here. Okay, okay,And then speaking of you, keep speaking
of you man, So let's startfrom the beginning. Um, did you
know from a young age that youwanted to be a musical artist? Yeah?
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Yeah, you know, video gamesa lot and you know, playing
stuff I was supposed to. ButI used to just hear a lot of
music, and my dad used toplay a lot of you know, hip
hop music, and I like,man, you know they'd be like,
you didn't know, you don't knowthat about this right here? So then
you know, I see he certainmusic and get certain songs on video games.
So then you grasped to it.Then that started liking into you know,
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jay Z, Biggie Nas to popstuff like that. Started freestyling at
a young age, you know,thinking, you know, thinking, thinking
I was freestyling, which you know, so I was putting it together as
slow as it came. Man,And I believe at this point, you
know, we walked into this stuffand became this right here. And you
know, going to a performing artsschool, you know. So yeah,
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okay, okay, And um doyou come from you said, like your
father introduced you to hip hop?Do you come from a musical family or
the background? Granddad played piano,saxophone. Um, he was a coach
at Spot Metal you know. Umyeah, my uncle DJ Live was a
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DJ like that back in the day. Okay, So you know my dad
was just always with the red formlike you know what I'm saying. We
got the beat machines, we gotthe tarn tables, were around the food
tables, you know what I'm saying. And you know, they was kicking
their way how they was kicking,and you know, I kind of just
caught a pine, you know,and um just got that role seeing them
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do it, and I've been aroundit. You know, my little freestyle
and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
And you mentioned a few people likejay Z who are your music influences Like
you mentioned jay Z you mentioned asyeah yeah with them alone said you know
and now that hip hop is changingand different, but that's that's what I
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coastly, but adding oh the newyou know what I mean. And they
got songs with various artists like youknow myself, you know, people like
you know, a little Dirt,you know what I'm saying, little the
bag, you know, the baby, little baby stuff like that, Yeah,
building lot criticking. I just feellike my influences could be a few
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locals, you know what I'm saying. Okay, okay, okay, I
would say the Charlotte Wrap. Youknow what I'm saying. It's building now
let alone. Yeah, the baby, you know what I'm saying, came
out, you know, I givehim a surprise. So yeah, you
could be one and just seeing themergery of certain artists going from here and
here, So I would say alittle baby, the baby, um,
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you know, rescue peace, butespecially Ncy hustle, you know, kind
of climbed away as you know,hustling and music, you know, um,
trying to think I got I'm init, I'm in it, I
got I got about four or fivethree of them, Okay, No,
I'll mean that school. I gotan idea. Now, Um, so
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when did you first start rapping?Man? At what age were you like,
look, I'm gonna do this,I'm gonna become an MC. Do
you remember that? Like like yeah, yeah, I would say seriously,
probably was like eighteen and graduated graduatingthe four School of Arts. And um,
(06:35):
I did as a paper on umsony and you know, talking about
the digital we moving music to whereit is okay, and m I was
just speculating and I went to thestudio. She was like, you can
just give me three songs since yougot a rap and this was my you
know, writing teacher, and umI went away three songs somewhere at the
(06:57):
studio man, and um, yeah, I just knew I had the factors.
I just knew I had them,you know what I'm saying, the
fastest time heads, you know whatI mean. And making good comfortable music,
you know, music that makes sense, sound good and you can feel
it, you know what I mean? So yeah, yeah, man,
man and up yeah, And howwas that like going to a school of
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arts. Was that specifically like thecreative arts performing arts? And yeah,
yeah, yeah it was. Itwas a school a lot of things like
all right, you know dance,you know singing, you know theater,
so you know, rus getting alittle function of every one of them.
At first one when I was waring, I'm so scared, but you know
(07:38):
you had to sing in front alot of people and do whatever you did
for a lot of people to movein. They didn't get in. So
I did that, got into school, you know, keeping my grades episode.
So yeah, I started going tocores um change require and stuff like
that. So I also learning myvoice, okay, and you feel that
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that helped you, like yeah,because I mean, one thing is one
thing to write, but then it'salso and I say, one thing that
made Pop a great artist was andeven Biggie Um was the cadence. But
you also have to remote you also, like people there could be a dope
rapper, but if you ain't,if it's not believable and it sounding like
you're reading from the paper, youknow what I mean? Like right,
(08:22):
so that's facts. Yeah, becauseyou know it was our business. You
know you're gonna do it the rightway, do the right thing. You
know, you failed, you know, and it was actually classes, you
know, it wasn't like you knowafter school thing. You know, we
got actual credits for being in thoseclasses doing that, you know what I'm
saying. So that's what that That'swhat that did and motivated me outside of
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me. So I just took thatsame aspect as we was in class.
When I go in the studio,you know, we ain't playing around just
sitting around smoking, and you know, we're straight business getting this, you
know, trying to make a record, you know what I mean. And
yeah, like I said at theend of the show, we're gonna play
your songs so the listeners can hear. So for the listeners listening now,
like, what do you bring thehip hop man? What do you How
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do you describe your your your flavorand what do you bringing to hip hop?
Nostalgicness man, nostalgicness is streaking nostalgicagainst you know what I'm saying.
I like soundple music, you knowwhat I mean, but so much more
like I like people reverbing those sounds, you know what I'm saying. If
we recreate something, I want somebodythat sound. Probably liked that, but
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you actually exercise in your voice.It ain't somebody just expanding the track.
You know what it's paying you know, and I like live instruments stuff like
that. Okay, Like my thingof it is, it's not just the
trap wrap. It's not just thestreet. You know what I'm saying.
Um, it's not just to youknow, turn up musical club music.
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You know, I got I gotWest Coast. I'm talking about up north,
down South, Atlanta, Florida.You know what I'm saying. It
ain't nothing in my catalog that youcan't go out to or I got to
know too, you understand. So, and that's going on even the new
projects. It is because you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
believe I just got a lot ofpositivity to answer your question and just nuity
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like nuity, like just the moveand show people like Yo. It's it's
it's more than greatness to what wecall a hip hop and college. It's
a culture thing. You know whatI'm saying. Because at first, you
know, people were just taking itas a joke. Now we set in
examples. You said, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah
hip hop. Yeah, it's notthrough headed inners through the moves. So
(10:33):
the thing that caught I mentioned thatyou and your your report that you mentioned
Sony and then digital. So you'vealready seen the digital the digital wage coming
as far as like the music industrychanging, Yeah, that's a fact.
Yeah man man um. So wementioned we described the music. Can you
(10:54):
tell the people your catalog, likewhat you got out and what you're currently
working on. Yeah, you know, we put out the single Supernova in
between cali um what what the fuck? They know? The EP six song
EP and yeah we ran with thatand we got a new various project coming
(11:15):
out, trap Bag, you know, and a pair of a pair for
that well you know what I'm saying. I can go check that out.
Okay, Yeah, just really uhbuilt catalog and still building up. You
know what I'm saying. It's it'sto the it's to the tallest tower,
you know what I'm saying. Andthe perfect climb. So it's like we
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we just still climbing, you knowwhat I mean. And you know everything
is there though, you know whatI mean. We just want to be
fair how we put out the music, you know, even certain samples and
stuff we use, you know whatI'm saying, and we're paying for them.
You know, we recording intros,going back doing you know, ad
libs and stuff on certain stuff perfecting. So yeah, yeah yeah. And
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then we also like you you mentionedthe production side and how you like music.
So I gotta ask you, man, who are your your top producers
in the game, Like if youif you had to collaborate, Okay,
this is a two part question.If you had to collaborate with an artist,
who would that artist be or artists? And then also like produce producer
wise, who would you like tocollaborate with? UM? I definitely,
(12:24):
I definitely would say what you mean, like I have the city anywhere?
Oh anywhere man in the city,out of the city, like dream collaborations.
Yeah, I say, like Isay, like the city if you
have I know you heard the slimHood yep, you know, Platinum plus
UM and I'll say any artists inthe city. I give it a one
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to two. I'll do a featurewith with the baby, UM feature with
faty Pa. You know what Imean? Okay, what is your creative
process? Man? How do you? Um? How do you create?
Is it the lyrics first or doyou have an instrumental and then you just
paint with words around that instrumental.What's your creative process? Um, the
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damns I always been offended by Ialways been offended by the thing when people
say, remember, you know whatI'm saying, we came up on it.
I remember when me Go started peoplesomething about with this, and I'm
like, nah, you know theycreate creative, you know they created with
auto tune, t paintings created.Yeah, I believe the writing process or
(13:31):
there's a difference between somebody just punchingit and then knowing when they go in
the studio, how they gonna youknow what I'm saying, how they're gonna
come with them, how they're gonnacome with the words, how they gonna
come with and even out of containsa difference and how you say things.
And it's like some things you gotto really know the like the back of
your hand. Yeah yeah, yeah. I just think like my best process
(13:56):
with me is hearing the beat first, um, listening to what I can
feel in my head when I feellike just what I feel fig you know
what I'm saying, has a personsaving the rap, the new the new,
the new wave like um, evenlingo and stuff like that, you
know, what I mean, andso much of you heard people say certain
(14:20):
stuff like y'all put that in songeand make that up. So with that
being said, I might play thebeat, freestyle rap what I'm feeling to
a voice the moment, and thenuh, from then and then I just
you know, right what's real andyeah, yeah, I don't critiqued it.
You know, it's in my style, it's my format, and that's
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how I create that like that,so yeah, you know what you know
what's crazy? Yuh? God?Hold on from minute? Hey, Hey,
yeah, man's dog park tenting helmand barking up U. Yeah,
so what's crazy? Man? Isum? I heard like Biggie would like
(15:05):
be in the studio sleeping and thenwake up. I got it, you
know what I mean? Like likeyou said, like sometimes I um,
I have my little recorder on myphone and I have some inspiration and I
record it or something I'm like beforeI go to bed, and then like
you said, like when it comesto a B or something, yo,
I'm gonna use that. And thenyou also remind me of like jazz,
(15:28):
you know, like a cold TranMiles Davis. That was all improvisation.
You know what I'm saying they improvit. So like you said, man,
you could either have you could eitherwrite it. A creative process is
a creative process, and good musicis good music. Um yea. So
so I feel you on that.Um So. We we spoke on a
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lot and again thank you for takingthe time to come out here. What
has been your biggest challenge, umin the music industry? Like, what
would you say is something that hasbeen like challenging so far your career?
I would say wasting wasting my ownwasting my own time, my own values
with certain certain certain people with differentstandards around me, you know what I
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mean, and reevaluate myself at thesame time, because it ain't like I
don't want to do better and likeI ain't trying to change. It's more
like you know, when you anddabtys to doing something that you was used
to, there wasn't life for you. And when you step in that pattern
trying to do right for yourself.You know what I mean, you got
things it's coming at you. Itdon't want you to do right for yourself
(16:37):
or for the aspect or you changingyour life and others. You see what
I'm saying, And how seriousness isand keeping the business you know what I
mean? Yeah, standard to theutmost hot and you know your character at
best and you know respect, youknow what I mean. Honestly ain't know
my loyalty with my team. SoI just say with that being said,
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I just work harder. And umyou know I praised that now, you
know, and I did things,stay on it much harder, even when
writing songs. I'm like, man, writing this right now, Man,
I go back to the studio thisweek. You know at that time,
you know, yeah, so itwas grace and you know, but that
being said and ventioning the motivation,Um, it just built this character right
(17:23):
here, bro, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you like, you
know, man, you know howit is, Man, you have to
be disciplined. And then sometimes especiallyin the in the industry, Man,
there's people that will try to getyou to compromise. And I like how
you say, Man, you stayon your own when you hold your integrity
and keep to keep to that path. And on the flip side, like
what has been so far in yourcareer, the most rewarding moment, like
(17:45):
something like Man, I'm feeling thisright here. Yeah, I would say,
but you know, man, whenthe music would get mixed some master.
I don't coordinate putting. You knowthese projects that used together from the
photo shoots. You know, you'relike, man, I want to look
when they put it all together.This it's like yo, you know,
(18:10):
hearing about the streams and you knowthe views on the single super and over
the video subscribe you know, slowlybut shortotte, but you know we're working.
We're getting there. And definitely,man, you know hearing that,
you know they ready to see meperform, man, and yeah, get
to it, you know with that, so yeah, you know you're ready
(18:32):
to got them take the lockout,you know, take put the kid in
the lock take it off. Yeah, twenty three for real. So man,
Yeah, it's just so much.I'm like impatient. I'm like I
can't wait to track this project.I can't wait. So man and in
the super over Man is hot Man, and it's more to come. Yeah,
a lot of people like it,like, you know, a lot
of females like it. You know, kids starting you know, so yeah,
(18:57):
sou so moving forward. So likefifty forty years from now, Man,
you made your legacy. You youyou you made that imprint, you
got that Hollywood Walk of Fame star. When it's all set and done,
Man, what do you want yourlegacy to be in your impact on the
(19:18):
on the music greatness? You know, I was qualifying from my desperation,
like taking it to the lights ofshowing anybody like yo. You know you
could be here this small, youcould be here as big, or you
could be right in the mental youknow what I'm saying. But what's the
most what's the most important to do? It's pay attention. But how you
(19:41):
elevating your own self? You know, your own ship. So I believe
I got a lot to share inthat aspect. And I believe just being
great man, you know, beinggreat being one of the ones that say
he was the highest, he wasdope. He capt got the ring and
packed it out, you know whatI'm saying. He went to the studio,
he did that, you know whatI mean. So yeah, every
(20:03):
project that dropped, you know whatI mean. I don't never wanted to
be a stable where it's like,yo, these two projects was happen,
This one ain't every time, youknow what I'm saying, And so yeah,
and losing it and from that on, mean we're talking about making movies
and commercials and little stuff like that, you know, trying to get add
on in. So yeah, yeahwith me, you know what I mean,
(20:26):
you know what I'm saying. Butyeah, and you're definitely on your
way. Man again, thank you. Um gotta cost dream dream and so
my last question, but before youget to last question, man, where
it's seamless promotion time? Where canpeople hear your music? Just? Where
are you? Man? Where wherecan they find you? I was streaming
(20:48):
platform Spotify title. You know whatI'm saying, Our tunes music, Apple
Music, you know what I'm saying, um whatever everyone else you know that's
been saying. But till you knowthe pail, y'all can definitely follow me
at at Callie c a Eli Underscorecls t Boy Dot Jr or r g
(21:11):
as Cossboy dot Junior. And yeahman my Facebook Twitter, I'll that the
same. So yeah, you know, okay, and then um, last
question Callie Cossboy Junior. What doesmusic mean to you? Like? I
mean, so it's a perfect canvasto pant plank, to really shit on.
(21:34):
You know what I'm saying. Youknow every we're telling you that I'm
being through um all these you know, ups and downs and understanding that this
is This is not a this isnot just a progress. This is a
message, and we gotta progress itthe right way, you know what I
mean. Yeah, thank you.Keep selling dope. We can't keep selling
(21:56):
crime. We can't keep selling disrespectingwomen, hitching my kids won't. So
I believe we can have fun withit in a way. And then you
know, at the end of theday, you gotta let him know the
ends and outs. And that's whatit always been. You know, you
can't never leave the people wrong.You know, that's what they're trying to
you know, that's what certain peopletrying to kill in our value. You
know, it's black people, youknow what I mean. And we got
(22:19):
to just stay strong, I meanyeah, yep. And ladies and gentlemen.
Another great interview. Cally calls BoyJunior and we're gonna be closing out,
you know, deeper than music withSuperno And I'm curious kind of cass
Boy Junior signing off people. Idon't know, check it out. Just
what the classy and mama she did. But she classy, just wanta sways
(22:42):
the ball. She nice to sitwith a fan. Mama freak to man
say, I like that because sheclass, I gotta get them balls this
a little bit. Then she nasty. I got that supernoal color superno.
I got the super Solia busting downbell Songer with that man. Tell me,
Nigga, I got the super bowndidn't know that. I get come
bears like my bro bad. I'mtaking bitch for now like quota. Oh,
(23:07):
she has my number one mom andshares my trap. Queen baby mama
bitch, I told her. Humtrying to run up on some mother ship.
Nigga's faith the fun that can.I made the ball really on the
supper ship. They ain't about thismoney like me. I'm too icy,
but better pemper fuck up in hiswhite team and then white and beat every
bad bitch in the club. Donnalike me. No, I can't white
(23:30):
deeper if I had to wipe thebit by Icy and roll around with vs
Damadzon and Nigga Luis feet to nikesand run up the man's though she a
roal bitch. Though ain't got alittle groupie beach. I got a new
bitch. The keys should puts thereeds, so send some mother ship.
Puts me on some mother said shelike my not to TWI and she like
the fuck and she like the fruitand fold. I don't just eat and
go say I'll beat a pussy swow. Okay, just with the glassy here
(23:53):
little mama. She did, butshe classy. Just while we swearing the
ball. She nice to see witha fanny. My moca freaked to nasty.
I like that because she class Igotta get them balls because this little
bit then she nasty. I gotthis superno. I did colored superno.
I got the super Solia plusting downbells on it with that man. Come
me, nigga, I got thissuper They know that I got the bells
(24:17):
out of my bro bad. I'mtaking pitch. But now like corder.
Okay, she had that money.I know. Fido still rocking your bowls.
No skinny jeans because the pistol likecarry y'allman doing big things on the
stiff front. Water came over.Sluper niggas doing big things for the yo
fella like ice of water. Igot them pobs, put them on your
know they like the front. Hey, you know that they like the flag.
(24:38):
You know I've been popping sad sincethe y'all nigga, since a gad
bag since a little nigga were badbad, so my little nigga dad were
bad bad. Fatita told my daddyI was bad. Slide on my eyes
water ober ass, slid with myglot with a google man. I was
walking around with a blue flag,trying to shor on what a shuit about?
Trying to shor what I do aboutthe fucking nigga. We could shoot
(24:59):
it out. Ain't buy smoke,ain't buy the brain. But don't make
me. Just get on your assand go on here to put you off
for a pair. Oh, justwith the glad dal love Mama. She
did, but she classy. Justwant to swamming the balls, she nice
to she with a fanny mama freakingto nasty. I like that because she
classy. I gotta get them ballsbecause the little bit then she nasty.
(25:21):
I got that superno color superno Igot the super Sola busting down bells on
it with that man coming nigga.I got this super Bowl. Then know
that I got them bells out ofmy broad I'm taking a bit. But
now like Coter, let's see,I got you niggas a swandom shot,
but I got you looking to glassyour business. You want to come and
just get it popping off and thepop on her ass and know that the
(25:42):
fresh sweat pressing wetting. No pressingthis. You ain't no teacher bus stuff
testing that d Nigga puts the inthey testing this. I'm in the billy,
riding in a test of truck onthe love of my style, like
them Nike, I'm running like Nike. Ain't your business? You want to
be my wife, but can't bemy wife? My style phone, but
no, they ain't buy the dog. Another the French as f in Ferrario, who m
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