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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hello everybody, and welcome to this week's podcast. I'm changing
up my normal greeting because my wife, who I loved dearly,
mocked me openly to my face about it. Because yesterday
when we recorded the podcast, my mom had come over
in the in the evening and she was still here,
and you know, I went upstairs to do my thing,
(00:35):
and my way said, yeah, we can tell you start recording,
because She's like, all I heard is what's up, everybody,
Welcome to this episode at Texas. And I'm just like,
oh my god, she fucking dagged me. Holy hell shit,
she got my ass. So yeah, this video game podcast.
I'm your host, Brad, joined by my coast Micah Hey
and Terrence up Terrace. Did not see this news. Micah
(00:59):
asked me to and I figure we could talk about
it up front because nobody asked it in the post office,
and we will talk about this again. I'll look forward
on the next episode, so listeners, longtime listeners know I'm
a fan of the European football otherwise known as soccer
over here. Because the World Cup is happening in the
US next summer. The Club World Cup happens the year before,
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and that just happened over the past couple weeks here
in the US. For those that aren't familiar with soccer,
the Club World Cup is a functionally useless tournament that
nobody actually gives a shit about except for the club
that wins, because it's a meaningless preseason tournament that they
kind of use as a dry run for the World
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Cup just to kind of test the city's infrastructure and
make sure that everything, you know, is working as it
should for World Cup time, so they can identify any
potential issues that they have from a logistical standpoint. But
the Club World Cup brings together usually the the last
World Cup winner or it can't be a World winners,
that's their not tournament. They bring together like the champions
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of the different the club champions of the different federations
around the world. So you'll have like the European champion
and the North American champion and the South American champion.
They and they participate in mini tournament. And because FIFA
is an endlessly corrupt organization that just seeks money at
all costs, they expanded the Club World Cup this year
to invite more teams, which is stupid, and they got
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really panicked because like they had games where they were
the tickets were way too high price and so they
weren't even selling like half the tickets available, so they
had like panic lower prices in the leader to the game.
This is all to say the really embarrassing story came out.
So first the thing that happened is so Chelsea who
Sucks won the Club World Cup. Yeah, I know that's
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that's Micah's Club. That's right, Micah's Club, as we discussed
previously on the show. So Chelsea win to the Club
World Cup, right, and our dipship president is down on
the field to present them with the trophy. So the
way this usually works, right is usually like at a
tournament when a team wins, like all of their players
walk up on stage and they get a winner's medal, right,
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and they go to this like stage area, and the
club captain's the last one to go. And when the
club captain gets to the stage, he's usually presented the
trophy by some dignitary of some kind. It might be
like the head of the federation or whatever the case
may be. And then like the captain like lifts the
like they do the trophy lift, and everyone like it's
really excited and all the confetti goes off and it's
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it's a it's a pretty common like soccer scene, right. Well,
they had our dipship president hand off the Club World
Cup trophy to Chelsea's captain and then he just kind
of stayed there, and like the Chelsea players were like
really confused. It's like, is he gonna leave, like so
we could do the trophy lift, and like even like
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the FIFA president was trying to like escored him away,
and Trump's just like, I'm good, I'm just gonna stay
right here. And so the Chelsea players were eventually just like,
all right, I guess we're gonna do the trophy lift
with Donald Trump's standing right here. And so they're doing
their thing and He's just fucking standing there, like doing
his stupid handclap when he doesn't really know like what
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to do, but he wants to look like he's having
a good time. And then it's funny because like Infantino
like comes up, he's the FIFA president kind of like
moves him into the scrum with the teams that like
you can't see him. They just kind of like disappear
like Homer into the bush. Right, So like that's so
like that was a really embarrassing, fucking, uh fucking thing
that happened. Then there's footage of Trump literally pocketing one
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of the winners medals, uh that's given to the players
at the club. Like you see him he like I
don't know if someone gave it to him or or
what the deal was, but he like you see, like
have a winner with his hand and he just pockets it.
He just puts it in his pocket. And then the
story came out today. So like Infantino visited the White
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House a couple a couple of days or weeks ago, right,
and he brought the Club World Cuff Trophy with him,
and then like Donald Trump said today that like, oh yeah,
like I still have it. It's here like like and
they're like, what do you mean it's here? Like they
like they gave the Chelsea. He's like, no, no, He's like,
I have the real one. They gave Chelsea. They gave
the team that won a replica trophy, Like this is
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the real one right here. Now, I'm willing to believe
knowing him and how stupid he is, that Infantino might
have told him that that was the real Club World
Cup trophy and in fact, just gave him a replica.
Uh right, because like he's dumb enough to believe it,
and and it's a whole thing. But I cannot stress
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enough how stupid of a flex it is to be
like I've got the Club World Cup trophy. No one
cares like, it's a trophy that nobody gives a shit about.
It would be like awarding a trophy for the Pro
Bowl and being like, look, I got the Pro Bowl
trophy in my fucking office. Isn't this cool? Aren't I awesome?
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And people like no, dude, Like it's the fucking Pro Bowl.
Nobody cares, like, we don't even know why they do it.
It's it's a terrible fucking sporting event.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, I think we now know the reason why Donald
Trump got rid of the Martin Luther King bust out
in the White House.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
It's to have this gaudy gold trophy that he thinks
is real, but it's probably not.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Oh my god, yeah, I like the idea.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's not even funny to me.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's it's massively embarrassing from a just from a you know,
like from a national scale. Like it's it's bad enough
that he's like openly corrupt and and fucking like evil
and shit like that. But why does he have to
be so taggy, Like why does he have to be
like the most white trash person on the face of
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the fucking planet.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I like how he's just like gold gold.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That's literally it. That's that's literally always like, Wow, that's
a really nice that's a really nice trophy. I'd like
to have it, please and and Empantya is probably whatever
man like here, just just don't fuck up my bag
next year, please, like like like whatever you do, like
just just you know, don't fuck this up for us,
Like we have a lot of money, Like I don't
know how many I don't know if you realize how
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many corrupt bargains we've had to strike to make this
shit happen, Like we're gonna get filthy, fucking rich off
of the World Cup in the US. Just don't fuck
this up. Just don't fuck this up, right, And yet
he's gonna suck it up. He's gonna fuck it up
real bad. So I I cannot wait to see the
train wreck.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
When is this.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Happening in America?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Next year?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Year?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Next year? The for for America's fiftieth is this is
before after the Mendingo fights that he wants to have
in front of the White House.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I am pretty sure that it's before because the World
Cup typically happens in June. I actually think it'll be
going on while while the fourth is happening. I have
to check the dates. I had to check the dates.
But yeah, maybe that maybe they'll make a whole big
day out of it. Maybe we'll get a World Cup
match at FedEx Field or whatever they call of that nowadays.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And then north it's like Northwest Financial or something.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, so they so they got it, So they got
a different branding.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And then to Mike's point, like, we'll get the we'll
get the uh, the immigrant contest outside of the White House,
inside of the octagon.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So hey, we all knew he is the worst. He
is the worse. We have a heart attack not soon enough.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know, who do you think? Who?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Look?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Look, who do you think is gonna be unlive? First?
Hulk Hogan or Donald Trump Trump?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Just by the fact that he's older and his diet
is probably like massively worse than hal Cogan's. I would
have to imagine he is.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But he doesn't have the mileage that haulk Hogan has,
you know, true like like that's that's the interesting like
conundrum here, you know what I mean, Like I don't
I don't know, man, I don't know. They each overstayed there,
welcome as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, seventy one, Okay, so there's an eight year
different all right?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Who can seven one?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, that's wild. Sam Jackson is older than Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That that that we knew, that we knew.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But it just like it just seems like, you know,
like wow.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's because Sam Jackson has youthful vigor and and and
what crack as they say.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm just saying, like god, damn, you know, like like
like tris Stratus is fifty and looks thirty, but Hogan
is seventy and looks eighty. It just is it's just
it's wild.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Part of the wild.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Part of the other problem, well, part of the other
problem is too is that like so like I like,
for something like for whatever reason, like I happened to
be in watching a lot of clips that happened to
contain like a lot of eighties like baseball in them,
and like players in the eighties who were in like
in their early to mid thirties, look like they're forty
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five or older.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
No, that's just that's just the thing in general. Yeah,
like us Negroes talk about that quite a bit. Yeah, yeah,
Like if you look at the cast of all of them,
mothers is in their thirties or twenties, right, and they
and they, except for what he Harrelson, they all like
old ast shit.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yes you are you are, one hundred percent right, But
that doesn't seem to happen as much anymore either among
us whities, like like, like, I like, I feel like
white people are aging more gracefully, at least in their
thirties and forties, maybe not so much when they.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Get when they get beyond it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know, I think it's directly proportional to how evil
you are.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's true, right, that's true. Yes, this pruption does corrupt
for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Even the miller isn't even forty yet, right, No, right,
that's what I'm saying. It's like thirty eight years old.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Oh, me, Me and Jay, Me and Jay did this
on the podcast several months ago when his name first
came up. You guys, quickly google a person and then
tell me how old you think he is The person's
name is Emil E. M I L Bove b o
Ve And and see a picture of this dude and
tell me how old you think a meal Bobet is.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'm trying to find it picture.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
This is one of Trump's deputies at the Justice Department.
He nominated him for a federal judiciary position.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Uh, he sucks, damn. He looks he looks he late fifties. Yeah,
he looks like he's fifty nine. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I would say he's probably in his mid fifties. He
looks like he's like fifty five on. Oh, well, not
this picture. This this one picture with like it's it's
it's like it's like his it's like his face is
flying southwest where you're Yeah, you good to check all
your bags with you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
He's got the jal he's got the bags, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Then diesel esque. Look, but he looks older than right,
old bit diesel late fifties.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Is forty two years old.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, that's a fucking lie. Know he's not.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
For those for those listening at home, you can play
you can play the home game version of this.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah outrageous, al right, well, yeah, the ruggling proportional to
how evil you are because Jesus, yes.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No, he's not.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He is.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
He is. It says between forty three and forty four.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Okay, sorry, I this by a year by apologies year.
I can't believe. I can't believe I missed age the
sixty year old bad twenty years lord. Oh shit, he's
my age.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Yeah, God, God, he looks like he's sixty years old.
That's insanity. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Well, you know, evil ages you, but somehow allows you
to live forever. Which that's the that's the true as
we learn, as we you know, it's just like Billy
Joel said, only only the good die young.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So yeah, man, it's the it's the Palpatine thing man like,
it's it's you live forever.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
But god, damn, this is video game podcast. Uh so, uh,
only only only really one game to talk about this week.
I got the pad Upon one plus two remake that
came out on PC and switched this past weekend. It's
been out on PlayStation for quite some time. Uh. This
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is just a direct upscale port of the PSP games
that came out all the way back in like five
o six. I want to say like that those games
are like twenty years old at this point, which is
which is kind of crazy, and it's they're exactly as
they were, like Patapon For those not familiar, it's basically
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a real time strategy game, but the commands that you
issue to your troops are done in a rhythm based style,
where basically it's a call and response thing where you
input a specific command to a beat and your patapons
carried out on the battlefield, and kind of the whole
thing is being able to not only re and react
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to what's going on, but also keep the rhythm and
make sure that you're in putting the commands correctly as
you go through. And Patapon's great. I like Patapon a lot.
It's a very fun game. It's got some it's got
a six soundtrack as you would you know, expect from
a game that is rhythm based, and it just kind
of like reminds me and makes me sad that we
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don't get games like this anymore. It seems like from
big publishers, maybe Nintendo, we'll still put out a weird
one every now and then, but for most part, like
the tripa A, publishers have kind of left this style
of game to the indie space and not that the
Indie Space isn't doing a great job with that style
of game. But I do wish that we had more
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weird games like this that actually had like a bit
of a budget behind them. Sometimes like not a game
that's going to be massively appealing, like the Patapon games
were certainly popular on PSP, but they weren't like selling gangbusters,
Like this is a type of game that appeals to
a very you know, a small niche of people. It's
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not gonna be a mass market type of game.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
But uh yeah that's the uh and and you nailed it.
That's why they don't do it exactly. You know, people
don't they don't want to risk It's not even that
people won't buy it, it's that they don't want to
risk it. And yeah, it's just another that's just another
like side effective of ramping, like capitalism, right, like you
(16:47):
want to yeah, you don't want to take chances on things.
It's weird man.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah. Meanwhile, again, like you said, like the Indie Space,
they take all kinds of chances and they usually and
then I'm making hundreds of millions of dollars, but like
the games don't cost hundreds of million dollars to make.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And they don't and they don't need to sell millions
upon millions of god right, Like it's great if they do,
but they don't need to do it to be sustainable.
And and look like the same developers are a munch
of I should say, much of the same team the
same Uh, the same creators are making a spiritual sequel
that's coming out soon called Rattad, which the demo is
(17:26):
available on Steam and it's pretty good. It definitely seems like,
you know, hey, what if we learned some modern gaming
design lessons and apply to this formula basically? But yeah,
just really cool stuff and uh kind of harkens back
to an older time in in gaming that we.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Just don't see anymore. So I was looking at something, uh,
I think it was yesterday a matter of fact, I
was looking at something that when when they were talking
about Roadblocks and like the state of gaming now and
what people want to hit big and how they get
like monetization of games and things like that. You know,
how much Roadblocks is worth? Why, Micah, do you have
(18:06):
any idea how much.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Rodblocks is worth?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Because this is this is like the model that like
a lot of these companies are trying to hit At
this point, they're just making these bullshit fucking live service
games and all this other stuff that people can like
create new games, and I guess I think that's what
they wanted to do with Mind's I only use kind
of crypto or whatever. The fuck bullshit NFTs it's worth
(18:29):
seventy two billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What robo robocks?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, yes, it's worth seventy two billion dollars alone.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You know, I hate just like I was never like
with it, right, Like I was never like like on
the bleeding edge of anything. But like I'm I'm just
out of it. I'm just out of anything that's hip
and to.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Be that's seven. How about saying, to be clear, Roadblocks
is popular because it's popular with the youth. Like that's
like like like our generation and the generation behind us
isn't really like keyed into Roadblocks like this, Like Roadblocks
is pretty much like if you are like at this point,
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I want to I feel like the oldest like Roadblocks
players might just be getting to their late teen years,
like might be just getting to like their seventeen or
eighteen year old years essentially.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But I feel like Roadblocks has been around forever though.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It has been around for a very long time. Yes,
it's been around for like two decades, right, yes, yeah, yeah,
it really has it. Well, it didn't blow up until Yeah,
it didn't blow up until much later, but it has
been around. But also the key to Roadblocks' success is
the fact that they've basically like designed a tool set
to create like a content mill by their players, like
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like like like their players or what's creating the content
for that game and getting paid like a pittance. Meanwhile,
like the developers are making a shitload of money from
the robucks and the different things you can buy for
your characters and the different outfits and all that kind
of shit, and they're kind of relying on their players
to prop up the the game itself. But also something
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that I was, you know, listening to some people like
when like roadblocks kind of exist over here in like
the broader gaming space. Like even most like podcast gaming
podcasts you don't listen to don't can't speak intelligently about
Roadblocks because it's just not something that we're very familiar with.
But for a lot of kids, like Roadblocks is like
(20:39):
their hangout space with their friends, Like that's where they
go to socialize with people that they know and things
like that.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
On vacation, Right on vacation, we went and we talked
and we hung out with some of my son's younger cousins, right,
And the one of them, he's like seven, right, and
he was just like watching YouTube right, like just for enjoyment.
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And I pulled my wife aside and I say, like,
he's not did you see what they're doing right now?
Like we're not letting him watch this the second we
get out of this door, out of his house, because
it's just it's just nonsense, right, It's just nonsense and nonsense,
like at least I guess roadblocks is like, I mean,
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do you have to think with roadblocks at some point?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I mean, if you're creating stuff short, but you don't
have to create anything.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You can just experience like they're watching like they're watching
YouTube shorts of just like people talking and but but
the thing on the screen has nothing to do with
the thing that they're talking about, and it's it's and
they're watching people like this is what I can't stand.
(22:04):
Kids sitting there watching other kids play with toys and games. Fucker,
you got all these goddamn you see all this shit
behind me, not all of it is mine. You got
a bunch of toys backhead. I don't want you to
see you watching some kid play with toys that you have. Like,
(22:26):
I don't know, I don't know. I'm feeling old man.
And this and this me not knowing anything about roadblocks
other than it exists and it's making all the money
just made me feel, just made me sitting in my
old man bag.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Not not to defend influencer culture at all, but just
just I'd like to bring up a counterpoint. MI, Likeah,
when you were a young a young man, uh, and
you were watching you know, cartoons on the Nickelodeon network
or or whatever whatever network that you fancy that you
were watching your cartoons on when you were a young child.
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In between the points of action, what did you observe
on those advertisements advertise with the kids playing with toys
and games stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Right, Yeah, but it wasn't like, I mean, it wasn't like.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Hey, thirty minute video.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
In two minutes worth of worth of advertisements, Brett.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Look, influencer culture is just the it's just the evolution
of of the of the toy commercials from uh back
in the day and and look, I'm I'm as disgusted
by the commercialization of of our entertainment as anyone else
out there.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
But I'm just saying that this.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Is not a new a new experience by any stretch
of the imagination.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Don't get old man, don't get old people.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
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Speaker 1 (24:25):
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We're gonna talk about why Triple A publishers don't embrace
the early access model, even though it would probably benefit
them to do so. So again that's mind Swept Dot
Club the news the really fucking weird story. We missed
this by a day, and it's been it's been kind
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of like we've been seeing a little bit more and
more as the as the kind of days go along.
So Subnautica was a very popular survival game. I would
argue one of like, you know, the top two survival
style MMO games that are that are out there, made
by publisher Unknown Worlds. And the game was so popular
(25:31):
that Crafton Games, which is a I believe a Korean
publishing house, picked up Unknown Worlds and for I think
they paid like five hundred million dollars or something like that.
And Unknown Worlds has been working on Synautica too. It
was thought to release or later this year in early access.
Has not done so yet. And there was a bit
(25:54):
of a kerfluffle back on July second because Crafton announced
that Steve Papastis, who was the CEO or sorry, my apologies,
Steve Passes, is taking over as the lead, taking over
the CEO for Underworld because they replaced Ted Gill, Charlie Cleveland,
(26:16):
and Max Maguire, who were the founding members of the
Unknown World Studios and the main driving force behind Subnatica two.
And then a week later, Crafton announced that Subnatica two
Early access would be delayed until twenty twenty six. The
announcement said that the game was in good shape, but
(26:36):
close testing revealed some insight that there were a few
areas where we need to improve before launching the first
version of Suthernautica two to the world. Up along comes
Jason Schreyer and Jason Schreyer reports actually, according to the
ousted founders of the studio, that the game is actually
ready to go into early access right now. But the
(27:00):
reason that craft And delayed into twenty twenty six is
because they signed an agreement with the studio when they
acquired them back in twenty twenty one that said if
they met their revenue targets by the end of twenty
twenty five, the studio would receive a two hundred and
fifty million dollar bonus, which was to be shared amongst
(27:24):
the one hundred or so members of the team, with
some members of the team reaching bonuses bonus money that
was in the seven figures, and obviously with the delay,
those revenue targets are extremely unlikely to be hit. Now,
that's that's life changing.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Money, burning a motherfucking building to the ground. Y yeah, yeah,
Like I thought this the other day. I'm like, that's wildfoul,
Like you can't just it's like, oh, it would be
ashamed if you'd if your game didn't come out in time, Oh,
we're gonna fire you. And they'd be like, oh, we're
gonna delay it to twenty twenty twenty seventy twenty twenty six,
so you don't get the bonus.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yes, now, Crafton. Crafton did respond by saying that essentially
they were saying that this is not the reason that
we delayed the game. You're genuinely, we genuinely think it's
not ready to release at this point, and they have
said they have said that they still plan on paying
(28:35):
out the bonus, though they have not given details as
far as that goes. They also blamed some of the
former founders of Ndon Worlds as like not actually working
on the game, like they're trying to allege that like
one of them like what went off and made like
an independent movie, and they just like, these people were
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not committed to the development of the game, and so
that's why they had.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
To let them go.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Like they're like, oh, we tried so hard to to
get them back into the mix, but they just weren't receptive,
so we had to we had to fire them essentially, So.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Which one is it. Is it because they weren't working
on the game that it's not ready for twenty twenty
five or the developers are like, no, it's ready to go.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I mean we just like it's It is very difficult
for me to kind of just take the publisher's word
for it, especially when there's a two hundred and fifty
million Like there's two hundred and fifty million reasons for them, And.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
The reason why I don't believe them is because like
the publishers, like how hands on are publishers usually when
it comes to developing the development of games before they're
released into whether it be early acts or completely.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I mean, they're the publishers are the ones that get
to ultimately decide whether it's you know, go time or
hold off time. Like they're the ones that set the
release dates and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So like, well, they're set the release dates, but how
do they determine whether the game is ready for that?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I mean they have their representatives, like check it out
to see if the game is up to snuff the
representatives they give. I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm just saying that, like publish, yeah, quarter.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Of a million dollars. They ain't want to give these niggas.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
And that's why, Like, I get what you're saying, Like
I get I get what both of you are saying. Right, Like,
on the one hand, it could be done, and I
just don't like movies sit on the shelf all the time, right,
Like if studio doesn't want to release it, they just
won't release it. But nobody's buying that. Oh well, I
think the game isn't ready. Like shut up, shut up,
(30:40):
get out of here. You don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
The game is so focused tested by old women.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Publishers, publishers notoriously released games that are not finished see
every publisher.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
But yeah, but that's the other thing. This is an
early access launched. By the way, this isn't even like
one point oh yeah, this is like.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
This thig is a Lion. You know, they just didn't
want to pay them the money.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, I mean one early.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Access is not the full game. It's gonna it's still
gonna be working on it. People are gonna be paying
for it because I really like some notic. I like
some notical a lot. I played a lot of it
the first one, and I wanted I was I was
waiting for some notica too to come out. Oh, I
don't know when it's coming out.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Six Terence is when you can play on the early
access to release. I mean, I don't know what's more remarkable,
like the fact that they are doing it, or the
fact that they're doing it so brazenly and not thinking
that anyone would catch them out. Or maybe they don't
give a shit, right, Like, maybe they don't fucking care
if anyone calls them out, because you're just like, look like,
y'all know what this is. Like, we're trying to save
two hundred and fifty million dollars. It's a lot of
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fucking money. It's literally half of what we paid for
the studio. You know that we're just gonna give it
as a bonus.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Like at this point, at this point, I yet like
I would rather you just say that, right, like like
just b dicks about it, Like just b dicks about
like why why lie? Why lie? Why go through all this?
Why you gotta get? Why you gotta get Jason Schreyer,
the omar of the video game journalism, to come with
(32:17):
his shotgun and and and just like blow a hole
in this story, man, Like just like if you're caught,
you're caught. You know, like.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Who was the one the political version of of Jason Scryer.
I haven't heard from him in a while.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Uh yeah, I think I think I think left left.
I was gonna said the athletic left the Atlantic, which
is probably why you haven't heard from him sometimes. So
also I know people know to steer fucking steer clear
(32:59):
because let's like, let's see what that ship ship all blast.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So Jason Scrier like, look, don't funk with that, dude.
He'll find out if you he's a lion in that
find it immediately. So so this fucking sucks.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I I hope that Crafton gets bullied into fucking paying
out this bonus. And and I know and the the
Alsted founders are suing them probably for like wrongful termination,
so I also hope they have all their teas crossed
an ice dotted as far as let these guys go,
because otherwise that could lead to another hefty payout.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Is this an official statement in this article from Crafton
uh words Crafton's commitment to its promises and rewarding employees. Additionally, Yes,
it says Additionally Crafton is committed to fair and equitable
compensation for all remaining unknown world employees.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
That doesn't say, yeah, here's here's your bonus, here's.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
That says. What they think is that that is man,
God damn it, get out of here. Your but your
which is stupid rhetoric.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's I mean, look to Terrace's point, Like if I
were one of those developers that were still at that
studio and like, I don't know what I'd be thinking
right now, Like I know that I'd be like fucking
every day talking about boss, like when we get that money,
when we get that money money, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Man, it's just.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Cruel, Like and here's all the money in the world.
Here's the thing that's so insane about it, Like, yeah,
it's two hundred fifty million dollars a lot of money. Yeah,
it's a fuck ton of money. Right, But like Subnautica
is really popular, and Subnautica too was probably only going
to be more popular, So all you had to do
was not fumble the bag and Crafton would probably make
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that money twenty times over back, you know what I mean.
Like like it's just she's gotta wait a little longer
for it, right, Like like I guess they're like all
a bird in the hand and whatever. But just like
do you now now you fucked up? Like you fucked
up publicly, you've kind of harnessed the image potentially of
this new game that you have coming out, like at
the very least, like even if you know, people still
(35:15):
want to play it, like it kind of has the
ick around it now because everyone, like you know a
lot of people know the story. You know the story and.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Just it's amazing how much like just fucking doing nothing,
like like I've seen like jokes and shit like that.
Like I wish like there should be a job where
like someone hires me to pay and they pay me
like five million dollars a year and all I do
is they come to me and like, hey, we're thinking
about doing this, and I tell them whether it's a
good idea, or a bad idea, and if they just
(35:43):
listen to me, like they'll make they'll they'll make that
money back like fifty times over, just because like all
you need is someone that has common sense in the
room to be like, hey, guys, uh, this is probably
fucking stupid to to do this common sense consulting, right, yes,
(36:06):
so damn yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Also, two and fifty million dollars is a big fucking
bonus show, like.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Like, but that's what they agree to when they signed
them on. That was probably one of those what I'm saying, Yeah,
it's probably one of the incentives that unknown world is
like fuck yeah, like we'll sign on the dotted line
because like, hey, we're gonna get five hundred million.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, they had no no, they had no intention of
that'll give you all give you a jillion dollar bonus
the game.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
So this is, I mean, funnily enough. You see this
a lot in sports, where like players will have like
incentives in their contract, like if they play X number
of games in a season, they get an extra bonus
here if they you know, like if they score x
number of points.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
And you get certain.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Right, and then you'll see like oh, like magically at
the end of the season, like the team, Like the
team's holding back this player from playing in this game,
Like why like even like, oh, we're protecting him from
Like no, you're not. You're just trying not to pay
this extra million dollars. Assholes, Like we all see what
you're doing.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Oh my god, dude.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Uh speaking of problems with money, the last news story
we have this week is kind of a disconcerting one
for me. So a firm who is probably the most
known like buy now, pay later, like kind of like
(37:30):
instant advanced crediting thing you know that you see online
in a lot of shops and stuff like that. They
announced a partnership with a gaming commerce company called Exsola,
which will allow a firm to bring their buy now,
pay later plans to games that use Exola's payment tools
(37:51):
in the United States, with later plans uh to expand
over to Canada and the UK apparent like Exolo right now.
Publishers they work with, they work with Dying like publisher
tech Lan, they work with the aforementioned craft On, who
also publishes pubg among other games as well, and they've
(38:15):
worked with Fortnite developer Epic Games. So for those that
don't know how these like buy now, pay later plans
work like generally, they're like, hey, like, you can either
pay now for this thing online that you're buying, or
you can pay it off in four monthly installments of
you know, X amount of dollars and as long as
you make the payments, like you pay zero percent interest
(38:36):
and that's all well and good. But then if you
miss the payments, you get hammered with a shitload of
interest payments on the back end. Obviously, these plans are
definitely targeted to people that are less affluent, that have
less money but still want to buy nice things. I
don't want to go as far to say that it's predatory,
(38:59):
because I don't know that it I don't know that
I would say that much. But it does open the
door for people who might already have spending issues, let's say, uh,
to get themselves into more spending troubles by making it
easier to buy things like games or God forbid micro transactions.
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Uh in games with buy now, pay later.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Models, they've already implemented this on like yeah, door dash
people would essentially to.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Do the same ship that door Dash baths. It's insane.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, because we're winning guys, we're winning.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Ay man, I guess things are going.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Look, I I do actually think I do actually for
this instance, I do think this is predatory. You know,
if you go to like Amazon or something, you can
you can buy something with a firm or whatever, like
if you need something, all right, fine, whatever, it's your
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choice or whatever. But like, I don't know, it's this
feels different. This feels different because it's not like a
tangible item like this is like this is like using
a buy now, pay later to pull a slot machine,
and it you know, in hopes that you get something good,
(40:37):
even if you know what you're getting, it's not. I
don't know. This feels different, and this does feel predatory
to me. If what what does our washers to say
in fences, something like if you if he ain't buying
that television until he got two hundred fifty dollars clear
a right, you know if you got Yeah, this is
(41:03):
this is not Look, I would urge you to not
do this.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I wouldn't do it. I don't. I'm not sure if
it's one hundre percent predatory either, but like it depends
on the audience and your games. A lot of these
games are geared towards children. But the thing is, like
that's up to the parents to be like, you can't
use my fucking car for that shit.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, I better say parents, make sure. Just make sure
if you have kids, just make sure you're securing your
account purchases with a password or something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
On your console, you got to know what you should
spending money on. Like what Mecha Break came out and
it's one point zero came out about a week and
a half ago and the game is fun. But I
don't know if you've heard the backlash for that game.
I don't know if something like a Mecha Break would
use this. I could see them actually doing it because
they have like skin packs that are like fifty sixty bucks,
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and people are like, what the fuck.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Are you doing?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Like there's a there's a spread danylola like a bargain
right right Jesus, And like again it goes back to
like these the prices that they put on these packs
and ship like that. I remember when I when I
was playing Apex Legends. I will tell you guys, like
(42:24):
there's a gun skin that's twenty dollars. That's crazy. That
doesn't make any sense to charge twenty dollars. But then
you have people that pay that. I'm like, that's like
five indie games that you could put a lot of
time into. You spent it on a fucking skin that's
got like a little smiley face on it.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
The fuck is wrong that only that only you will
ever notice, really because because the characters shooting you.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
In the face across the map is not gonna see
the gun that you're holding in your hand.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
But here's the thing, right, But here's the thing, Like
I get micro transactions. I don't get the pricing, but
somebody does. And somebody, somebody calculated that there are enough
whales out there. Yeah, that's that what buy the skin
as opposed to you know, I guess guppies or whatever,
like not a lot of like a bunch of guppies
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buying a five dollar skin is not now.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
And now those whales will potentially have a way to say, man,
I really don't have that fifty dollars right now, but
I can make I can I can do uh, I
can do twelve seventy five four times over the next
two months to to pay for this.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
And and that's the thing, right, Like now they don't
have to worry about the whales. They can worry about
the guppies, right because the guppies will just be like,
all right, whatever, here, here's my my twelve fifty.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I don't I don't think so though, I don't. I
really don't like the I don't think this is going
to get any more people to buy into the stuff
that don't do it already. I think all it's gonna
do is get the people that are already heavily invested
to invest even more money. But this time it's not
money they have to have. It's money that it's money
that they don't have to have, and they can just
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pile it up. And that's the thing about those like
using those buying now pay later services. To Mike's point,
like if you're like I've certainly used you know, shit
like that before, where I'm just like, man, like I
don't have like the six hundred dollars to buy this
thing right now, It's like, but yeah, I'll have it,
you know, over the course of the next you know,
six months, Like I'll have it in the next two months,
Like I just don't have it right the second out
(44:24):
of pocket, so like I'll do that and then I'll
pay it off in two months, and it's been a
big deal. But I'm also not doing like I'm also
not buying like five items within a month of buy now,
pay later, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Like, it's not like you can run like, oh, you
can have a bunch of them concurrent, right, and and
that's not yes, and they don't and they don't stop you,
and they don't stop you like they run a credit check.
But as long as you're you know, credit's not like
a flaming dumpster like they're they're probably gonna let you
have some money. So as long as your credit is
like not two like that whatever.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
So I mean, this is incredibly dangerous. It's inevitable that
something like this is gonna happen. But all it's gonna
do is exacerbate the problems around micro transactions that are
already well exacerbated in this industry. And so I really,
like I said, if you're if you're inclined to to
use this kind of stuff, please don't not certainly not
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on anything so trivial as you know, a video game
or micro transactions within a video game. And if you
know anyone that is inclined, tell them not to do
this shit either because it's just bad news.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
All the way around.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
If you got like if you got money from micro transactions,
or you've got money for a game that has micro transactors,
you can you can wait. I would advise you please wait,
or just don't buy it at all. Well, don't buy
the micro transaction. I mean that's an option too.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
But like my brain is wired to see like because
this sometimes like, yo, that's a dope skin. I would
like to And then you look at the price of like, yeah,
do you think I wouldn't like to have like twenty
five dollars for this?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah? Do you do you think I wouldn't like to
have like the fucking character outfit with like the bright
shiny armor in theology, Like, yeah, absolutely, I'm not paying
twenty five dollars just for the pleasure looking at it.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, it's crazy, Yo, I don't understand the human psyche.
I don't like that's that's a quarter of what you
paid for the fucking game just for a skin, though,
Like you put like one hundred hours in the games, Like, oh,
this getting is literally cool? How much is it? It's
thirty dollars? Okay yo, that's five games you could have
bought on Steam sales some shit like that, but you
(46:33):
decided to buy it for use a skin. I can't
my brain, that's not it. That's I think you have
a mental disability at that point. What's wrong with you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I mean a lot, but you do a lot of people,
A lot of people do, like that's that's the problem. Well,
a lot of people. The brains don't like you know that.
Those gambling sites like.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
All of them. Yeah, like you Yeah, you're right, all
of them. Like I've seen, like I was around some
people that they would literally bet on every football game
every weekend. And I told him, I'm like, yo, you
have a problem, bro, And he's like I know. I'm like,
what the fuck are you doing? Like he just like
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two grand and like it's just because he can just
do it from his phone.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
You do it from your phone. I know.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
I'm like, Yo, what the fuck are you doing? You
just like losing money? That's insane to me, that's crazy.
But when you hit, it's like, oh ship, I hit,
But that's what But that's what they're doing. They're they're
chasing that. They're chasing the high. Not with money though,
not with money, no, man like I told you I
was playing, but Latro and I ain't even like that
ship in that game.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
I mean again, when people and when people buy gambling,
when people buy loop boxes, that's all they're doing as
well as they're just they're they're just they're they're they're
chasing the high of that of that random you know,
one in one and two hundred where they pop like
the super rare item and.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
That makes all the others that you know that couldn't do.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
It's the different colors. It's like, oh, you got the
gold box and like.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Have you have you guys seen have you guys seen
the viral uh internet game that's taking that's taking the
games feared by storm over the past week. Terrence, you
will find this incredibly disgusting. Uh, Micah, you might be
somewhat intrigued, but it's it's it's that Uma Matsume game,
(48:28):
which is like the horse racing game, but instead of horses,
you have anime girls that just have like horse ears
and it's a got and it's a it's a gotcha game.
It's a gotcha game. So they put a gotcha game
inside of a horse racing game, is what they did.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
And the horses, big tittied women with.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah so so. So it's like, so you're getting the
gambling squared aspect of it because you're you know, you're
betting on the horse races, not with real money. You're
like like you're betting on your on your on your
horse to win, or your girl to win, your your
umabatsume uh. But you can buy, but you have like
the pools of a goatcha game where you're trying to
get like the five star horse girl.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Apparently.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Look I was, I was commenting about, you know what
those kids were watching, but like I guess this is
the same thing, right for adults, like just hey, here's this,
here's this, you know, bright shiny thing that's gonna last
for ten seconds and then off to another one. I
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don't know, man, Like we used to do it with
trading cards, right, Like I get the feeling, right, but
like trading cards is something tangible, true, something that you
know you can possibly resell. Yeah, this is literally nothing.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
This is it is a is it a is a
digital uh item that you don't even own technically, right,
as we keep fighting out through all these uh through
all these yula's and stuff like that, like if they
close up shop on that game that you invested hundreds
of dollars into, congratulations, Like all of your purchases go
with it. The memories you get to keep, though, But
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but your micro transactions they stay over there with those guys.
So oh well, not to not to pivot from bringing
them the room down, but join our discord at despises
dot com slash fans because when you do, uh, you
get to ask us questions and a little segment that
we call the dn'ce fix's post office. I totally forgot
(50:34):
to ask for questions, so I asked literally right before
the show started. Uh, and you guys came through as
you always do, starting with Mark saying, what is the
worst mass produced snack food ever made?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
PEPs? Mm, that's a good one, and.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Peeps is good.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Uh. Twizzlers, that's gonna be an unpopular.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
One with a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Wife loves.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
They literally make me nauseous every time I eat.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I don't like the smell, I don't like the mouth.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Not a licorice guy, not a liquorice guy, never happened.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I don't know, man, I don't We don't need too
many snacks, uh, and we're trying to do shitty ones.
Candy corn is pretty terrible. That's just wax, isn't isn't made?
Speaker 6 (51:31):
That isn't I think Carry is a candy Corn defender
on the pod. It's unfortunate that's this ship is candle wax.
It's just candle wax.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I guess, uh Anthony. Uh hes a question for uh,
A specific question for two of us. I guess, Terrence,
You're gonna have to answer the question, Harry. So uh
Anthony asked me any new tabletop or board games coming
out that look get interesting. I'm actually very out of
the loop with new tabletop games because I've been trying
(52:08):
to focus on more playing what I have and pairing
down my collection some just to keep the games that
we really like in rotation, because the problem with owning
a fuck ton of board games that you don't get
to play in this frequently individually as you might like to.
So I've been actually not paying attention, even though gen
Con is like right around the corner, which is like
(52:30):
the Comic Con of board games essentially in many ways,
where a lot of the big new releases come out.
So I'm very out of the loop. But I may
have to look at some gen con previous to see
if there's anything that looks cool. Mike, how long does
it take to compose and edit action figure shots that
you make?
Speaker 2 (52:51):
It takes me a while, just because my imagination is
not what it used to be, which is kind of
why I tried to get back into reading, because I
have to. I have to think of something that I
want to do, or something that I get inspired by,
like a comic book cover or you know, a scene
(53:12):
from a show or a comic panel or something. And yeah,
it's all about composition, right, Like you don't want to
Like I've gone back and look at looked at my
old work and it's just like, here's a dead on
shot of like an action figure, right, and it's not interesting.
So I try to look for different like when I
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know what I want to do, like I have that
hope figure back there, and I know what I want
to do, and I'm just trying to figure out like
how to compose the shot, and I'll take I'll take
like hundreds of shots. I'll take like hundreds of them
with different lighting and different positioning until I can kind
of get the image that the com position that I want,
(54:01):
And then editing is not too bad because I don't
I don't have a lot of props, so I try
to do a lot of portraiture, and the editing with
the portraiture is not that bad. It's all about like
how to layer the photos with the different lights that
(54:23):
I have, right, Like, I'll take a picture of something
with a light here, I'll take a picture of something
with a light here. Take a picture of something with
the light here, then try to get the image that
I want, right Like, I took a picture of this
one Superman, this one Superman picture that I got that
I took inspiration from a comic book cover, and that
(54:45):
is composed of like three or four images, and a
few of them are just like completely silhouetted so that
I can give the illusion that the thing that's Superman
is carrying he's casting a shadow over half of his body,
and and I paint that onto the different layers, so
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it doesn't take the editing doesn't take long, but the
composition can take take me a while. Like, like I
think the most idea was like one hundred and fifty
shots on one one image, just to kind of whittle
it down.
Speaker 7 (55:22):
And get the the shot that I really like. But
but I like it. It's it's uh, it's fun and yeah,
I like it, and my wife doesn't make fun of
me about it.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
So that's all.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
That's all. It's all I really needed at this point.
Just don't make it, don't don't.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Laugh at they really are somebody dope as ship for.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Someone for someone, for someone who is, by your own admission.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
An amateur.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Uh, you definitely have professional looking uh outcomes.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
So thank you. Yeah, she could not give a ship.
It's very nice to hear someone say think that they
thank you.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah, and uh, Terrence, what artists are you looking to
collab with for video game music stuff?
Speaker 3 (56:08):
Well, this new album just came out last Thursday and
Pharrell did the beat. So Pharrell, fuck. That album is
fucking dope, by the way, Like, let God sort him out.
I know none of y'all listen to hip hops, but
you know.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
I might listen to.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
Beach Boy. Has beach Boy has one or two?
Speaker 2 (56:35):
To me?
Speaker 3 (56:35):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (56:37):
Being to ask us, uh, ask y'all, Since it's been
a minute, how's y'all's Monster Hunter Wild's experience going. I'd
have no time to play and I want to get
back to it soon. I've actually fallen off pretty hard
on Wilds after getting through most of the high Rank campaign,
and the reason why is that so far the tread
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has not been quite as good as it was in
Rise for example, which is the one that really kind
of got me on the franchise, and the performance issues
on PC are really hard around or yeah, well, I
mean all around. Yeah, it's it's it's like it's one
of the things like I didn't care when the game
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first started because I was, you know, getting through the
story and just kind of learning the mechanics. But like
once you go on, like once you know the game
well enough that you're not like thinking about everything you're doing,
it's it makes a lot easier to notice some of
the fund up ship that's.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
Happening like in the background. I don't think the Ari
engine suits itself very well. No, not for this at all,
because it was terrible for what is it, Dragon's Dogma two. Yeah,
same issues. So maybe they don't need maybe they didn't
need to not use that engine, but that's their I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
Well maybe maybe just not for heavy like like fast
paced action games don't.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Don't use That's what I'm saying they use it for
like Open World or act, but like ratherident Evil. It's
fucking perfect. Its amazing, It's amazing. So, Mike, I have
you still been playing Wilds.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
No, I haven't. I haven't picked it up in a while.
It's it's like you said, it's just kind of I
feel like I've gotten everything I need out of it.
The only thing that would get me to come back
is if I decide, hey, maybe I should try a
different weapon, right, But I like the weapon that I have,
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But maybe I'll pick another one and then that'll get
me back into it. But no, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
I haven't jumped back on.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
It in a while, and Monster hundred and Carrie can
either tell me I'm an idiot or back me up.
I get the feeling like a lot of the issues
with the initial release gets smoothed out typically when they
put the expansion out or when they put out like
the next version. That kind of ties in because I
know that world had some issues that folks didn't like,
and then Ice Borne came out and solved a lot
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of that, and the same thing with Rise when sun
Break came out. So I mean we're we're probably a
year away, year and a half away from getting an
expansion for Monster Hunter Whiles, and I wouldn't be surprised
if that expansion helped solve some of the problems that
people have with the game. I think World actually has
more active players on Steam than Wiles does, which is
kind of nuts to think about. Mark asked also asked
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has the YouTube algorithm ever gotten you into a thing
you hadn't even considered watching before? For some reason, I
got really into watching people racing mountain bikes, starting on
a damn glacier and ending up in a town. It's
weirdly relaxing and something that I would never do, all right.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
I think I watch I like watching people who are
passionate and have personality talk about things that they like, right,
even if I don't know anything about it. And I
also like people I watch a lot of people who
do like video essays, yeah, either about or politics or
(01:00:09):
breaking down like like media and stuff like that. But
one that I have started a thing that I have
started watching is people who do like I guess biographies
of of like YouTube personalities and and like here's this,
(01:00:33):
here's this person who was the rise and fall of
such and such.
Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
YouTube drama that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Like the rise and fall of Dark Side Phil or
the Couple. Yeah yeah, the rise and fall of Doug Walker,
or the rise and fall of Doctor Disrespect. You know
what I mean, the rise and fall of that of
that dude from G four with the beard. Oh yeah,
(01:01:07):
the Completionist, the completion the Completionists. Yeah yeah, I like
I like watching that stuff. Man. Well, yeah, I'm not
robbing charities, I'm not defunding people, I'm not committing frog.
I'm doing all right.
Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
That's really funny. I'm the same way I did. I
watched the same ship. I feel like we have a
very similar algorithm, the rise and fall of I recently
like I was because last month was like the two
year two year anniversary of the Titan sub imploding. Oh yeah,
and I watched one and then they just started recommending
(01:01:45):
me like a whole bunch of other ones. And then
I watched the one on Netflix. That dude was fucking
crazy Rush. He was a lunaty. He was a psychopath.
Like legitimately, he could afford to be. He had billions
of the So you know, you can afford to be a.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Little eccentric when you when you don't have to worry
about straking.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
It was like, I'm building this sub and we're not
gonna get it classed and we're not gonna get it certified.
It was made of carbon fiber, which is terrible for underwater.
Fucking it's just and he killed those four people. Man,
it's fucked up. Yeah, super fucked up. But yeah, I
started watching. Yeah, I'm I'm right there with you. Like
those are rise and falls are really funny.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I am also a video essay junkie. Now it's funny
because I usually find a lot of video essay it's
through video games. But then if I find ones that
I really like that I will watch all of their
other content, which doesn't necessarily have to be game related
or you know, it's good even when it is game related.
But it's about a game that I never have and
never will play, and yet I'm still willing to watch
(01:02:48):
like a two hour long essay about it just because
what it is is really interesting. Couple creators I will
recommend Jacob Keeller is really good. Uh, the guy that
does folding ideas whose name I can't remember, Yeah, I
can't remember, Danielsen something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Dan something.
Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Yeah, he's really good if you always let me just
take a quick peek to see if the.
Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Problem with the problem with some of these people is
that it takes them so long.
Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
To release new stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Yeah, man, like like, look this ship to my veins
hrom guy.
Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
How can I forget the most prolific His last one
came out like two years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
I I want to tell you, can I tell you something?
I have watched the Tommy Tall Rico and literally at
least like I watch it like at least once every
six months, Like I I just keeps natural. It's it's
so good. It's so basically good. And again if you
walk into it not realizing like what it's about, like
(01:03:57):
it's it is one of the greatest bates which whatever,
it's the one yes that that's that is uh, it
is one of the greatest bait and switches of all
times long. It's so good, it's so well.
Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
The Plagiarism one is like almost four hours and I'm
not stated.
Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
That's another Yeah, one of those videos where it's like, hey,
it's about plagiarism. Actually it's about one guy that we're
gonna spend an hour and a half on because holy shit.
So yeah, those are some those are definitely some good ones,
and especially like folding ideas. There's a lot of really
he has, like he is probably the best, like hit ratio,
(01:04:40):
like he did the famous one that he did was
about n F T s uh. That is kind of
a muss must watch. But my one that I think
I like the best is he did he did a
video called It's Rude to be Bad at World of
Warcraft talking about how Wow has become this game that
used to be just like a fun, like chill hangout
(01:05:02):
game until like this fucking sweat game that people like
players that played seriously actually get angry at you if
you don't play it as seriously as they do. And
and how it and how it how you changes how
you interact with the game, which is really interesting as well.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
So well, the last one I'll recommend. Actually, I don't
know if you guys have heard of mister Baldin mm hmmm.
He just stories about like his stories about the strange,
dark and mysterious I'm into like ghost shit mm hmm,
and just weird occurrences that happen. He has a very
good channel, Like I started watching him like three years ago,
(01:05:40):
when he wasn't as big as he is now. Now
he's got like five million, ten million fuck of subscribers
and he's created an entire fucking like network of shows.
Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Very good, very good storyteller. I'll give you one more.
Uh that's sports related. Secret Base. Check out if you're
if you like sports, uh, check out Secret Base. They
do a whole lot of stat based documentaries where they
just kind of go deep into these weird specific topics,
but it's on the back of a lot of statistical analysis,
(01:06:11):
which speaks to my brain very much.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
So, yeah, guess what, guys, we're fucking old.
Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Hey, look at least at least we're not our parents
like with like fucking books and video video sets of
like the Civil War, World War two or like this.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Every time we go over my parents tells my father
he's the seventy four I think it'll be seventy four
in October, and he's he sits in one room and
he watches History and the ID channel and that's it
going there, and you know it's the ID channel whatever.
(01:06:51):
It's like, you know, they the stereotypical like and then
d D and then the evil music come on, Like
why is it so evil in here. I was like,
it's not, It's just you know, it's just the music
is evil.
Speaker 7 (01:07:08):
I'm like, all right, man, got it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Yes, I'm fun.
Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna skip around because I think
we have two questions that are Superman related, so we'll
get to those last. But first, Evan asks me to
please explain the significance of Nico Hulkenberg's h P three
at Silverston this past We are two weekends ago, I
should say, so, uh, this is f one related. The
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British Grand Prix was this past weekend. It was a
classic race thanks to the fact that there was a
lot of rain coming in and out of the forecast
during the race. And nothing nothing fucks with a good
race like a rainstorm because it completely blows the planned
strategy by the teams out of the water, because you
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have to use specific tires when it's wet, otherwise you'll
go all over the road. And there was a shitload
of cars that crashed out of the race because of
the rain, and there was a ton of safety cars
and stuff like that, and what it led to was
a third place finish for one Nico Okenberg of Germany.
(01:08:19):
Now You guys might not give a shit about this,
but it was the feel good story of the F
one weekend because Nico Haulckenberg has been an F one
for quite some time but has never really been with
any good teams and had up until this weekend, he
had the record for most F one races in a
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career two hundred and thirty nine without a podium finish
in any of them. So he was good enough to
constantly keep a seat in this sport where only twenty
people have a seat, but he was never good enough
to make it to the podium in any of these races.
There's actually a famous clip that from an event that
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he did like ten years ago. Uh maybe not ten
years ago. That might have been worse thing that, but
he did like an appearance at the at a at
a Microsoft store, at a mall somewhere where they like
where the race is happening, and these kids like were
clowning on him, like asking him like, well, how many
races have you wont He's like, oh, I haven't. I
haven't won any races. And they're like, oh, like you
don't even like you never won. He's like, I've actually
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never been on the podium. Before and there's and these
fucking ten year olds are just clowning Nico Hawkenberg and
it's like the saddest fucking thing that you ever see.
The first thing I thought as soon as he sinched
up that podium was, fuck those kids at the Microsoft store,
you fucking assholes, like Nico Hawkenberg showed you, you fucking
pieces of shit. He was really excited, the crowd was
really happy for him. He did like it's so unfamiliar
(01:09:44):
to him that, like he didn't even realize that, Like
he had to bring his helmet with him into the
cool down room. So Lando Norris, who won the race,
brought in his helmet and Hawkingberg's like, why are you
bringing that? And he's like, oh, you're supposed to put
it over He's like, you're supposed to put it over here,
Like he had no fucking idea what to do. So
it was just really cool to watch him win a race.
And like I said, he now no longer has the
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ignominious record of two hundred and thirty nine starts without
a podium.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Fish you or do you plan to watch that f
one movie?
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I will end up watching it at some point.
Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Look, I mean it's like a movie ass movie, right,
Like it's especially it's a sports movie. So look, it's
a sports movie, a sports movie. But I'm very curious
to hear your take on it, to see like how
authentic they they they were kind of able to make
it sounds good. I mean it looked good to me,
(01:10:40):
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
No, I mean I've seen I've seen clips. It looks incredible,
and I mean, like you also have to realize that
like the last two seasons of F one, like Brad
Pitt was constantly at the racetrack because they were filming
scenes like for the movie at all the races and
stuff like that that he was going too. So like
it's it's ye, I'm sure they made it look amazing.
I know the story, the story seems a little bitous,
(01:11:00):
Like doesn't he play like an old ass guy that
can drag back into an F one car?
Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah, he's a gary right, He's he's like perfect, right,
even when he's not perfect, it's like, oh okay, wrecked that,
Oh well, now I got it. And then he's just
like perfect and he's using like these it's it's look,
it's a movie ass movie, right, Like it follows the
same beats. Is it follows the same beats as top Gun, right,
(01:11:28):
like it's.
Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I mean, the reason the reason they're doing this a
to make shitload of money, which they will, but be
I'm sure this will attract even more people to F
one who might.
Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Not have happened.
Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yes, And isn't Apple getting TV rights to.
Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
They they are bidding for TV rights for F one.
Whether they'll get it or not, we will see, but
they are, they are bidding for them.
Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Right yeah, because I thought I saw something where ESPN
didn't want to match it. So they were like, you
all got it.
Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Well, the problem, the problem, the problem they're the only
problem for is like the reason the ESPN wouldn't want
to match it is because you can actually and this
is what I do, Like you can actually just stream
the races through like I pay F one like eighty
bucks a year and I can and I just watch
it through their app instead of watching it through through ESPN.
So like a lot of people just go over the
(01:12:17):
top with that one. But maybe if Apple byes then
they'll they'll tamp that down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I wouldn't be surprised many they it's it's all it'll
all be just to push this movie.
Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Right, money?
Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think. I think I've read
somewhere that like Apple bed like one hundred and fifty
million dollars a year, which I'm sure for them is
like nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Like for three thousand dollars for a phone.
Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Baby.
Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Yeah, like like like one hundred and fifty million dollars
a year, oh for the word for the world's second
most popular sport, Like yeah, no problem, Well we'll easily
pay that, you got it? Uh, all right, So the
two Superman questions, beach Boy says the amazing movie that
is twenty twenty five Superman. Do you think will actually
get a Superman video game? A good one? And if so,
(01:13:07):
what studio do you think could shoulder the burden. I
have a nineties kid, so I remember Superman sixty four
very vividly. He doesn't put this in here, but I'm
assuming he means parentheses negative. As far as the remembrance
of Superman sixty.
Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Four, Yeah, I don't think you. I don't think you
can make a Superman game with the spirit that Superman
is meant to have, because if you give like the
Superman is a character that's kind of if you if
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you give a character these type of powers that Superman has,
and let's say you put them in a game, they're
not gonna the first thing you're gonna do is you're
gonna wanna reck shit, Right, You're not necessarily going to
want to. You're not necessarily gonna want to, you know,
like because human beings are wired like that, Right, you
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put someone in it, you give someone they're gonna want
to fly around, they're gonna want to bash stuff, right
because he's they're gonna want to try out Superman's powers,
right construction, it'll be ultimate destruction or prototype, right, And
and that is and then at that point, you're not
making a Superman game. You're making a halt game, right,
I'm And it's not like it's not like Spider Man,
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where Spider Man is like, Okay, he's he's beating up
these thugs, but like, yeah, he can knock their their
their jaw off their face. But I don't know there's
something about it, man, Like I just don't see it.
Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
What was that game would Love in like two early
two thousands, that Superman game where it wasn't but he
couldn't die. Superman couldn't die of Superman.
Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
That was Superman re the video game.
Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, the city had a health bar and
you had to save the city.
Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
And you had to. You had to because Superman's like
people think Superman is a cop. He's not a cop.
He's a firefighter, right, And if you don't, if you
if you don't save these people, then yeah, the city
would essentially lose morale and then you would have a
sad and then it will be game over.
Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
I mean, but hey, that's a that's a novel way
to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I'm not knocking it. Yeah, I'm not knocking it man,
because like, you're not gonna have a bunch of people
just beat up Superman, right, like it's it's I just
don't see it. But you know, I'm not a game
I'm not a game developer. I would love to see it.
I would love to see Superman be in a game,
But I think the best way to implement Superman is
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in a in a video game is if Superman is
you are playing it from the perspective of someone other
than Superman. Uh, Superman has to be like a summon
or a get out of jail free card, right, like
you if Superman were in those In those Arkham games,
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you would be Batman and Superman would be someone that
would come in occasionally to assist you in something. But
then up, I gotta fly somewhere else because I got
something else. I gotta save other people, you know what
I mean. Like, it's hard to it's hard to do
Superman in a game. It's not hard to write Superman
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if you focus on the correct thing, but it is hard,
I think to create a Superman game based on like
human nature or.
Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
All you do is you take the tact of Mortal
Kombat versus DC universe and just explain it away by
saying everybody could use magic.
Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
With Injustice. That's literally what they did with Injustice. Batman
created a pill that just like, okay, well now we
can punch Superman. I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
I think that's the only way you make it work
out that some terrible storyline explanations to why things can
hurt Superman now. And so like Bradia put a brainiac
put a bubble over a metropolis that you that that
just has magic in the air, So even mere mortals
can can damaged. Superman has a.
Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Visible wall that that that blocks solar radiation, so it's
constantly weakening Superman.
Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
I guess it's it's not fun. I don't think a
Superman game, like, you're right, I don't know if there's
going to be a viableman.
Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
And and and allow me to make a controversial stance here,
I don't know that we need a Superman video.
Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
I don't think I don't think you need a Superman
video because nobody also I'm getting I'm you know, we're
being inundated from you know, people like me who are
perpetually online but like don't say anything, are being inundated
with these ridiculous comparisons and well my Stuperman, my Superman is.
Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Stoic, Oh my god, why I can't like, I understand.
I understand people that are just like, this isn't the
character as I know them, Like, that's fine, Like if
you prefer like a certain portrayal of Superman, like you're
intended to have that opinion. What I what makes me
laugh is the people who like think that Superman is
something other than what he is, which is where you're
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getting all the right wing Superman takes an illegal alien. Yes,
well he's not an alien. You see I saw him.
He's like, well he's not an alien. He's an orphan.
And I'm like, oh, he's an alien. Kal El is
part of the United States now like I was not.
But Krypton is part of the US.
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Now did he take his citizenship test? I don't think
he did. He probably did not. But here the.
Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Whole point of it, the whole point of it is
that it's a nature and it's a nature and nurture
thing like like, that's the whole point. Hey, we will come,
we will take you in, like the it's on the
Statue of liberty, Like give us your tired, you're sick, whatever,
We'll take you and we'll help you. Like that's the
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whole point of the character. Not no, not my superman.
He would.
Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
You tell to say, what's on the fucking statue of liberty?
It might change that ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
The resident Francophile of the podcast would bring up the
statue of liberty is.
Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
They don't know that, they don't know it. We built
a baby made in America, baby, that's what statue of
liberty is. Lidy liberty baby. All right, you're not holding
French fries, all right, all right, all right, I'm curious.
I'm very curious. Next time you and Jay go have
your little arguments with with with the with the dullards
(01:20:10):
on the other side of the aisle, ask them, ask
them do they know about the Statue of Liberty.
Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
I know, I know they don't because like right wingers
were like literally cited as like I remember a couple
of years ago there was like someone who you know,
like cited it is like all America has the best
art and they use like the Statue of Liberty like
cited as an example of great American art. And I'm
just like, good job, good job. Tell me. Tell me
(01:20:37):
you'd never opened a fucking textbook without without tell me,
holy shit.
Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
And then finally Leonardist says, how good was Guy Gardner? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Baby, I assume Guy Gardner shows up in the New
Superman movie. Then he is very much. He is in it,
played by Nathan Fillion, and he's great. Yeah, he's great. Uh.
Guy Gardner is is. He's he's a very cool green lantern.
People don't like him because you know, he's he's kind
(01:21:10):
of surly and has a weird haircut. But no, Guy
Gardener's a rod to die man, like if you read
Green Lantern, like Guy Gardner and John Stewart like their
boys man like they like he will he's he's very abrasive,
but if he's your friend, like he'll he'll rod for you,
and uh they kind of illustrate that in uh in
(01:21:33):
the movie. But yeah, God was great. It makes me
want It makes me want to see this lantern show
that people are upset that they cast a black guy
who's not black enough, but you know he's not because
he's not Terrence's complexion. They think that, you know, he's
(01:21:59):
not his name Aaron Pierre. Yeah, yeah, they don't think
he's black enough, and they're like, oh, she just happens
all the time. They always cast light skinned dudes in
roles like this, and I that is objectively not true.
It's not noted light skinned man Sam Jackson who played
Nick Fury, is is he who you're talking about? Noted
(01:22:23):
light skinned man Anthony Mackie Is Is that who you're
talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Marshall Allie, Marshall Ali, is.
Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
That who you're talking about? Like quite the opposite, actually,
like dark skinned dudes in Hollywood all I mean like
it's it's it's not right, That's what I'm saying. You know,
that's what I'm saying, Like, you're objectively wrong still in
k Brown is in movies like noted light skinned man like.
Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
No, no, it is objectively narrative, like, but I can't
prove that you're not right.
Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
It is objectively Chadwick Bozeman light they were.
Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
They replaced Terrence Howard with Daci.
Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
With come on, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Yeah, you can miss me with that. That. Oh they
never cast dark skinned men in anything. They shut up,
it is objectively wrong. What is what to show you?
Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Man, You've got you had a little looked forward, You've
had some black and black cinema. We we we we served,
We served the full breath of the TNP.
Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
That work I got. But this one last thing I
want to talk about. It felt like a minute or so.
I know neither one of you watched Evolution last night.
Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
No, you shut your you shut your whole mouth. Yeah,
are you were home by that?
Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I watched it.
Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
That was the best pl they put on this year.
Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
To me, I I I agree to maybe the elimination
chamber And look, look, uh Naomi absolutely deserved that cash
because she gave Jade Cargill the best match I've ever
seen her in point blank period.
Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Man, that was a very good feel. I was like,
this is really fucking good. Almost every match. All the
matches were good.
Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
I liked every match, even ship that I didn't understand,
Like I don't watch n XT. I know who Jordan
Grace is. I didn't know who the champion. I still
don't know who the champion is. I and I know you.
Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Don't watch w w E at all, Brad. He just
kind of fall falling off, but like I would check
it out, like the women had a point to prove.
Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
It was good.
Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
This is this is the first time in seven years,
this is the second one.
Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
And by the way, I do like all on the
back of you, Terran saying this is probably the best
premium line event they put on all year. In the
press conference afterwards, they're like, k trip late, You're gonna
make this an annual thing. He's like, probably not.
Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Man Like wrestling suck. The Saturday night that main event
was trash, Like like, yeah, yeah, everything has been terrible
this year. This was really fucking good. I was shocked.
Apparently a w all in was amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
All In was all in? I watched all in, all
In was it was It was good, it was entertaining.
I I just that last match. Man, I'm just not
into that ship. I'm just not into a man taking
a fork and stabbing another man in the head. Like it's.
Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Yeah, extreme wrestling. That doesn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
That doesn't do anything for me. But but I enjoyed it,
and they made sure to like go well into nine
o'clock to eat into Saturday night's main event, which I
which I find funny.
Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
But no, didn't didn't that didn't didn't eat A you
start there a minute like four o'clock.
Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Is like six hours long. Yeah, yeah, I didn't watch it,
but I heard it was like five and a half
hours long.
Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
It's I guess I get I guess you're paying for it.
They will fucking give you, give you your dollars worth.
Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
I mean, I guess Evolution. Evolution from todd to bottom
is great. Though I they had they had the right
amount of matches, like seven or eight matches.
Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Isn't the right amount of matches when it when the
pay per view lasts for six hours?
Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Evolution aout okay a W A W. They had like
twelve of some like no get out No evolution. Evolution
had like six or seven matches, it was paced and
it was still three and a half out.
Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Yeah, I will I will say. The one thing that
w has done, like with the exception the wrestling, is
they have kept their premium live events trim so that
you get fewer matches, but they actually get to go,
like they actually get to perform. Whether they should have
is a you know, so in some cases it is
a different thing. But you know, that main event was amazing. Like,
(01:27:09):
I think Sky might be the best person, the best
on the roster. My three favorite matches in the LA
like the last two or three years to have had
her in them that I haven't heard. I even heard
that Gunther dragged the halfway decent match out of fucking
Goldberg on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
He carried him for like fifteen minutes. What the fuck a.
Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Goldberg in a fifteen minute match? That's like the first
time that's ever happened, right.
Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
I mean I wouldn't be surprised, Like give that man
a lace.
Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Yeah, but yes, yeah, the last time I can remember
that happen was when back in w CW when wrestled
Diamon Dalle's page and knocked himself unconscious doing a spear
so DDP literally had to carry the rest of the
match from from that point for.
Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
The shot up to DVP man saving the rest of
the allows for thirty years.
Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Yeah, like the last he's a good he's a good dude.
Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
He's a good dude.
Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Chris Stratus is fifty years old, like ship in w W.
Chris Stratus is fifty years old and put on a
hell of a fucking match. And and I.
Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Don't like Tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
I don't like I'm not a fan of she. Look look, look,
look she Harry Kurmey, Like they like that she that.
I get that. I kind of get that vibe. I
kind of get that vibe.
Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
She's better off as a heel, Like I don't know
why they ran her as a baby face. Yeah she
was a Yeah, she's a natural heel character.
Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
So yeah yeah yeah, but yeah, no, Evolution was Evolution
was great, man, I dug it. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Called evolution too, like like Terrence said, it's been seven
years since the last one, Like you could just call
it evolution again, Like it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yeah, I don't know, man, they just treating Like again,
I said, the women have something to prove. They're like,
and they've proved, they proved that they're like they're hungry,
like just let us wrestle, like we can show you
that we can put on a good fucking show. And
they did better than the like the men got to
step they game up. Yeah, they really do, because again,
(01:29:17):
all of the previous ones this year have been just
just just terrible, just like, Yo, what the fuck the
storyline suck? I told you guys are gonna fuck our
truth over. Yeah, you were right, the fucked them over already. Like,
I don't think Triple As likes them. I don't think
they like the fact that they had to bring them
back because the fans were like, yo, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
And then oh yeah, they absolutely do.
Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Not like when like the audience goes into business for
themselves as they said, Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Damn that's fucked up. He said, they they're not gonna
do it again next year.
Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
He said, it's probably not gonna be an annual. Goddamn,
just do it angrily, Like you can't put you can't
sacrifice one event to the women on the calendar every year,
especially if they're gonna put on a show that good, if.
Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
They're going to carry a little bullshit ass like sandbaging
weekend like you try to you try to sandbag ae.
Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
W And the thing is it didn't sell as many tickets,
that's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Right, And they but but they dicked them enough time.
They dicked them over because it was supposed to be
It wasn't supposed to originally be in Atlanta, right, it
was supposed to happen like it was supposed to happen
a week before. But they found but they were like, hey,
let's just Aw's having their version of wrestle Mania this weekend.
Let's just stack all of our wrestling and so that
(01:30:39):
so that people will only talk about the last thing
they saw, which was, you know, a WWE product, right,
which is why they wanted to put that a nice
main event on after all in and then they moved
Evolution to Sunday so that people on Monday will be
talking about Evolution instead of instead of a w And
(01:31:03):
you know, they probably they didn't sell as much advertising,
which means there wasn't a lot of commercials, probably because
they thought women, they're not gonna draw no, yo. They
killed that ship and this all started. This ship all
started because the Saudis didn't want women over there and
they were like, Okay, well, well we'll give you a
(01:31:25):
we'll give you a pay per view to yourself that'll play.
That'll shut you up, right that she broads up.
Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
I will say also for a company that doesn't that
claims not to pay a w any mind, they sure
don't act like right that the company that they're not competition,
but not competition, but we're gonna we're going to counter
program and then every at every avenue that we can.
Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Apparently there was like a Beyonce concert happening at the
same time too. It was just all kind of crazy
going on at night that that weekend. Man, it was
just it was chaos. But like they just decided, I.
Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Was so so this, So this event was the so
the evolution too was the titan Fall two of its day.
Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
And it is the best thing that came out that
super fucked up man. Yeah, man, I feel sorry for
the I feel sorry for the women man, because they
got fucked over. As good as that was, again, it
didn't sell as many tickets as that garbage Saturday night
main event. And then they'll use it, yeah, to not
do it it. Yeah, that's corporations trash. If you take
(01:32:33):
anything from this show. Corporations.
Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Corporations are trash, the eternal, the eternal theme of the
Dense Pixels podcast. Uh, that's a good place to call it.
Thank you guys very much for watching and listening. Again,
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Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Yeah,