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- Dave and Martin Sign one of a kind unique art work
- Community calls for home town recognition of then boys from Basildon
- Listener feedback
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello, this is Martin Gold from Depeche Mode.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Alright, this is Gegone from Depeche Mode and you are
listening to.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
My word Rod.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Did you happen to see the photographs of Dave and
his family? I believe they were on vacation in Greece
on their summer vacation. Dave looked like he was having
quite a bit of fun, so I just thought i'd
shared that. As we kick off this week's episode Depeche
(00:38):
Mode the podcast, Welcome Devots. I'm your host, John Justice,
and I'm glad that you are with another episode. We
have a couple of interesting news items to share with
you this week on the show. Still no news about
the forthcoming m film or those unreleased tracks as we
continue to await some level of promotion coming from the
(00:59):
band for the film, which is supposed to come out
here in the next couple of months. Do you have
some listener feedback though, to go along with some official
news this week on the show. As always, if you
want to email me talkshow Nerd at gmail dot com,
or if you're enjoying the show up on YouTube, you
can check it out there. Let's get to the first
news item this week, Now this actually dropped like right
(01:24):
after I posted last week's episode, which always seems to happen,
by the way. I originally found this on the depeche
Mode europe X page. But long time sound Waves collaborators
Dave Gone and Martin Gore of depeche Mode are back
again with an incredible seven song artwork collection to fundraise
(01:49):
Notes for Notes. These are limited edition artworks to support
Notes for Notes. Earlier this month, the Rock and Roll
Hall of Famers and five time grand I Mean nominees
kindly signed this limited addition collection, just twelve prints and
one original per song created by sound Wave artist to
(02:12):
Tim Wakefield's favorite depeche Mode songs, including popular hits and
some deep cuts.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Now, I think the.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Original was enjoyed the silence, but I thought the mix
of songs that was chosen for this were rather interesting. Condemnation,
which we know is a Dave Gone favorite track, but
good Night Lovers, I Won It All, Perfect Rush, Sweetest Perfection,
and Waiting for the Night. So each original artwork also
(02:43):
features the song title handwritten by Dave Gone. Now, the
artwork in and of itself was based off of the music.
I believe the music is what created the patterns of
this art really beautiful by the way it looks it looked.
I mean, I'm no art Kannas Sewer by any stretch,
but I really thought the visuals were nice. The profits
(03:05):
for Notes for Notes, which provides youth with free access
to musical instruments, instruction, and recording studio environments so that
music may become a profoundly positive influence in their lives.
And this has also been added to the new Depeche
Mode auctions from previously sold out auctions which are all
available now on their auctions page. So there are some
(03:29):
videos that win along with this. Although the videos themselves
were just Dave and.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Martin doing the signing, you can watch them signing.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
There was no added conversation about anything you know worth
mentioning here on the.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
On the show.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I do find it rather interesting though, that with the
promotion of Mental More done and the band is clearly
on a break, we're expecting this promotion for the film
to come you know, any really any day now. Then
Martin and Dave you know, still take part in in
things like this doing charity work. The official Instagram page
(04:05):
posted this, and I guess the point that I want
to make is that the band is still active, even
though we have no announcement relating to any music anytime
in the near future. Martin and Dave have had several
opportunities to get together, whether it was the Tribeca Film
Festival for a festival, for the debut of the film itself.
(04:28):
You know, Martin's certainly going out and getting involved in
that pickleball tournament that was Apart from Dave. Obviously, we're
still awaiting the inclusion of the star on the Hollywood
Walk of Fame now I've been My understanding is David
Martin don't need to be there, but I imagine that
they will be, at least Martin since he doesn't live
far from that area. All of this, to me as
(04:49):
a fan, is very encouraging that we'll still get more
out of Depeche Mode, beyond the songs that have already
been created.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Why, I just when I see David Martin together is
still participating in things relating to Depeche Mode, I just
can't help but think that now this isn't over yet,
and you know, and it will be, you know, more
sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But I'm encouraged by this either way, it's exciting.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
If you haven't had a chance to go and check
it out, I would certainly encourage you to go and
do so.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I believe that a number.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Of these sold out to rather quickly, So all right,
let's move on to some more news from this week.
Depeche Mode fans call for hometown recognition so I'm working
off of the version here from BBC News. Fans of
(05:44):
the world's one of the world's biggest selling bands have
called for them to be officially recognized in their hometown.
Depeche Mode started out as a four piece inbaseled in
Essex in nineteen eighty before achieving global fame and their
trademark electronic sound and brooding lyrics. Bar Clay Corton, the
(06:04):
lead singer of the tribute band The Devout, said in
Baslden there should be some sort of mural or something
that draws in tourism from around the globe to say
the magic was created here. Now, the Baslden Council has
not responded to any request for comments as of yet. However,
Barklay Gorton said the magic started here in this little
(06:26):
town in Essex and it means a lot to millions
of millions of people. Calls for their official recognition came
as the BBC Radio four documentary Depeche Mode to Reach
Out and Touch Faith speaks to commentators and guests about
the group's working class roots and remarkable journey as musicians,
and I'll have further thoughts to share beyond what I
(06:47):
talked about last week. The band originally called Composition of
Sounds It's Just Ridiculous, formed by a friends, Andy Fletcher,
Vince Clark and Martin Gore before Dave Gone was recruited
later and now we get into a bit of a
history lesson that you and I both know, but we'll
go ahead and go through the article either way. They
performed for the first time as a four piece at
(07:08):
Nicholas School and now now James Hornsby School in Landen, Basildon,
which Gore and Fletch later attended, with Clark, a former
pupil at Landen High School. The band, however, mostly live
in the United States now and have been critical of
their hometown interviews. Gore was quoted as saying, I really
(07:31):
hated Basildon. I wanted to get out as quickly as
I could. I hear it's a pretty horrible place these days,
while Gone was quoted as saying all I remember about
Basilden was that it was awful. Deb Danahey first became
friends with Gon at Barnstables School, with Depeche Mode playing
one of their first gigs at a party she co
(07:51):
hosted at Paddock's Community Hall in Landen. She used to
help run the Depeche Mode information service the band's early days.
It was in relationship for four years with Clark, who
left to launch Yazoo with fellow Baslden musician Alison Moyer
and later a Rasure with Andy Bell. Miss Danahey now
(08:13):
takes dedicated Depeche Mode fans known as devotees, on tours
of Basilden, built to ease post war overcrowding in London.
The majority of visitors were from Europe, particularly Germany and
South America.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
She said.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Most of them think that they're going to come to town,
the town center, and there's going to be statues of
the band. They're really shocked that there isn't. Miss Danahey,
who lives on Canvey Island, said that while there was
a plaque in James Hornsby Sports Hall to commemorate Depeche
Mood's first gig, there was little else in the way
(08:49):
of official recognition. On tours, she limited to taking fans
to a board outside photographs of Gore, Fletch and Clark,
along with former pupils Alison Moyer, the Cures, Perry Beamonte
and Bob the Builder, and Paw Patrol creator Keith Chapman.
(09:10):
Fans appreciated the giant portraits of the band members in
the town Gate Theater too, she said, as pioneers of
the electronic sound inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame in twenty twenty, Depeche Mode and their peers
were shaped by growing up in a new town surrounded
by young people. Miss Danahey said, my parents came from Dagnenhim,
(09:32):
and lots of Dagnenhim and the East End people moved there.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
She said.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
They got a brand new house and the town center
wasn't even built then, And it's an analogy that I've
heard that it was. There was no old people. There
wasn't people saying you shouldn't be doing this, or that
we had so much freedom and didn't appreciate it because
we thought this was how every town was. Schools were
brand new, everything was completely brand new. It was just brilliant.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So it'll be interesting to see what comes of this.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
This actually has made quite as you know, there's been
quite a bit of attention to this attempt to give
them some recognition out of out of Basildon. When I
was doing the prep for the show this week, there
were several stories relating to this desire to give them
some recognition. So it'll be interesting to see whether or
(10:24):
not somebody is able to achieve something in terms of
marking that moment in history for the for the band.
So I'd love to know what you think. Talkshow Nerd
at gmail dot com or leave a comment again up
on YouTube. Let's go ahead and get to your listener
feedback this week. All right, first and foremost, before I
(10:49):
go say anything else. Last week on the show, I
was talking about the sample at the beginning of Stripped
with the car turning on that we knew it was
done from a Porsche. I wasn't sure at the time.
And because I record the show for live, I'm recording
the show, but I treat it like it's live because
(11:10):
that's just the best way that I perform. Because I'm
a radio talk show host, and so I'm live every
single day, so I don't like to do edit at
the same time, and probably not the best thing for
the quality of the show be that doesn't may it
doesn't provide me the opportunity to sort of stop down, however,
and go and do research.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The reason why I.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was confused and I didn't think that it was Dave's
Porsche was because I could have sworn that on the
Remasters documentary, they were talking with one of the foreign
label representatives and they brought up the topic of the
sampling and the sampling of that Porsche, and I could
have swore that he had said that it was somebody else's,
(11:51):
not Dave's, like it was JD. Fanger's or Kessler's Porsche.
It turns out it was Dave's Porsche. I just want
to say that for the record. I also want to mention, though,
what is kind of funny is that they included a
video of a Porsche in that documentary when they were
(12:12):
talking about and they played that sample of the car
starting up. That being said, the Porsche that they showed
in the documentary was absolutely not the same model and
brand of the Porsche that Dave actually owned at the
time when they did that sample in the early eighties,
just because I was able to go and track down
what kind of porschit a Porsche. Well, I was informed
(12:36):
of what kind of Porsche it was, and it was
not the Porsche. It was like a nine to eleven
that they used in the video, and that's not the
Porsche that Dava owned. So I had many of you
who were pointing this out, and I appreciate the clarification.
So I don't like it when I get my depeche
Mode trivia wrong, so I wanted to make sure that
I went and cleared that up. All right, let's get
(12:58):
to some of your feedback this week.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You can.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
First, let's hear from you're all friends of the show,
but friend of the show Chris Culpeper, who says, I
love when DM plays unexpected deep tracks to their live
sets as I get tired of the singles and so,
for example, flies on the wind screen during devotional I
Want you now during the Exotic tour. The things you
(13:21):
said during the spirit A tour, you know, listen, I
remember when deth Door made an appearance during the Devotional
tour as as well. The list there though I don't
know see. I always consider Flies on the wind Screen
to be a little bit more mainstream. I know it
wasn't like officially a single, but to me it always
mentally sort of think of it as a as a single.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But no, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I appreciate it when they do the deep tracks, which
became you know, which happened far less frequently as the
band got older and tour just because the set list
the number of songs in the set list remain while
they ended up accumulating more music, so any opportunities for
deep tracks were usually filled in by whatever album was
(14:08):
being promoted at the at the time. I've mentioned I've
made this comment before. I'd love to see Depecha do
a Metallica situation with two back to back nights and
one being sort of a hits night and the one
being more of a deep track and B side night.
I think that would be absolutely amazing. He goes on
(14:28):
to write, Martin may acoustically play a deep track from
time to time, but I am confident of the following
live probabilities. Nothing lie from a broken frame. My forty
year request for Sun in the Rainfall probably isn't happening,
And that was such a tease and the lead up
to the Momento Mary tour when Dave made that comment
(14:48):
two people are people and blasphemous Rumors were permanently retired
after the Music for the Masses tour in nineteen eighty eight.
Blasphemous Rumors, by the way, that's to me, that's a
crime that that has not been a consistent standard on tour.
I know for me as a fan and a burgeoning
fan during that time period, Blasphemous Rumors was a huge
(15:12):
track for me. I mean it was like one of
the definitive depeche Mode songs where at the time, if
you would have asked me what depeche Mode songs will
they always play live? Of course you get down the
line and you get your enjoyed the silist never let
me down again, personal Jesus, I absolutely would have included
(15:34):
blasphemous Rumors in there.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I think it's a crime that it's not. I also
would have.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Included the full, the full version of Shake the Disease
as well. So another question. I'll add it to the
list of questions whenever I have the opportunity to interview
Martin or Dave, why haven't you guys gone back to
playing blasphemous rumors. Chris goes on to say, if anything
is played live from Speaking Spell, it will just be
just can't get enough. Same precedent for Construction time again,
(15:59):
meaning everything counts. Hardcore DM fans acknowledge that Here Is
the House is one of their best. My request for
a Dave Martin Gore duet ain't happening. Thank you for
all you do continuing to fly the flag for us, Chris,
It's funny I've been doing. There's certain depeche Mode songs
(16:19):
I mentioned that I listened to just like five or
six songs every single night as I go to bed,
and Ghosts Again has been one that I listened to
every single night. It used to be cover Me was
sort of the standard, and it got moved out of
the rotation with the release of Memento Moriy. That being said,
I've worked it in Here is the House lately because
(16:40):
it is one of my all time probably top five
favorite depeche Mode songs is Here Is the House and
the song is so seductive, like you get into that track,
like so many of depeche Mode songs in the way
that they just build the way the songs progress and
you kind of start off with one track that's very simple,
(17:02):
but then once it kicks in, it just moves. Such
a spectacular song. I yeah, So thank you Chris for
that and giving me the opportunity to romanticize. Here's the
house a little tiny bit. All right, let's go and
hear from Andrew Fallon out of Essex, England. I'm just
talking about Essex. I like to thank you for your podcast.
(17:24):
Thank you, Andrew. I'm not one of the real obsessive
Depeche Mode fans, but since getting back into them after
Momento Maury, I've been dipping into your podcast every week
and they are an invaluable source of news.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And information, so thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
In your most recent podcast, you shared some listener feedback
about the new BBC audio documentary, which wasn't very positive.
Having just listened to it myself, I wanted to offer
an alternative perspective, as I actually found it very interesting.
I also find it very interesting because, as he admits
here and my apologies for my email digging over here,
they're kind of all combined together. So I apologize that's
(18:02):
what that's what that noise is. I haven't I just
thought i'd let you know. I have it set up
through an email on one of my computers and it
digs every time a new email pops up. Anyway, I
want to make mention that this VBC audio documentary is
tailored for an individual like Andrew, which I think is great.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
If this offers up the opportunity for people to find
out more about Depeche Mode within their fandom, I think
that's fantastic. I guess maybe I was a little harsh
on it last week, and it's mostly because of what
I had heard regarding it, and that most of it,
and it's true, most of it was about information that
I think a lot of us that listen to the
podcast are already aware of. But as Andrew proves here
(18:45):
with his comment, it actually turns out that there are
some casual fans out there right, not the real obsessive ones,
but casual ones that are still into Depeche Mode enough
to check out a podcast like this and may be
able to glean quite a bit of information they may
not be aware of with documentaries like this. As I
think you mentioned, the documentary provides a broad historical overview
(19:08):
of Depeche Mode rather than anything more in depth. The
documentary does, however, discuss the appeal of Depeche Mode to
their fans, and what I really liked was how the
perceptions of the band were placed in a cultural context
in terms of the way Depeche Mode are viewed in Britain,
including the town they're from, as opposed to other parts
of the world. Perhaps this was a personal thing for me,
(19:29):
as I'm from England and I grew up just down
the road from Basildon, which I know well. In the
UK and even in Basldon, Depeche Mode are massively underappreciated,
as we were just talking about with the news of
trying to provide them some recognition there. It's not that
people hate them, they just don't really know about them
other than just can't get enough. So it was interesting
to hear the discussion of this kind of thing. I
(19:52):
also learned that some of the new things from the documentary.
For example, here in Britain, just can't get enough has
been adopted as a ball soccer chant, including it would
seem in the Premier League are equivalent to your NFL,
you know. I had heard that as well. In short,
for those who are able, I would definitely recommend giving
the documentary a listen. Thanks again for your podcast and
(20:13):
best wishes, Andrew Fallon, Essex, England. Thank you for that, Andrew,
and I very much appreciate your kind words and also
your feedback regarding that documentary. And I'll reiterate something I
said on last week's episode on TikTok. It really is incredible.
The algorithm has been feeding me this, but I've also
(20:34):
been following these accounts. Just the number of young individuals
that have gotten into Depeche Mode. It's just it really
is so it's so cool to see. And it makes
sense too, you know, have a I have a I
have an eighteen year old who am nineteen in December.
(20:54):
I have a twenty three year old. They're both at home.
This is just the way things are now, which is fine,
very thankful. The wife and I are incredibly thankful to
have both of our boys here with us for as
long as they can.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
They can be here.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But the themes in Depeche Mode's work, especially when you
go back to the Holy Grail, you know, or the
Holy Quadrilogy, I think I should call it of Black
Celebration Music for the Masses, Violator Songs of Faith, and Devotion.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Typically I go trilogy. You know this if you've been
listening to the song, to.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
The album, to the podcast starting to fade, Guys, if
you've been listening to the podcast for any length of time,
I usually kind of go the trilogy, Music for the Masses, Violator,
Songs of Faith and Devotion. I came to the realization though,
that the real transition started with Black Celebration, and this
was based off of some of the emails where we
were talking about the various eras and previous podcasts of
(21:50):
the band, and really it's a quadrilogy. It doesn't get
much better than Black Celebration, Music for the Masses, Violator,
and Songs of Faith and Devotion in terms of the
progression of the band, the stylistic intention of every single album,
how they differentiate from one another, the number of tracks
that are just so good in all four of those albums,
(22:12):
It just they just there are four masterful pieces of work,
and those four albums, the lyrical content, the vibe, it's
no shock that young people are finding them and getting
into them later you know, as we get later on
that young people are finding them and gravitating towards them
because it speaks to every generation going through what you
(22:35):
and I went through when we were their age, going
through the difficulties heading into adulthood. It really is cool
to see on top of that, there's just no other
band like depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Every band is unique, every band is different. They all
the popular bands, the good bands, they all have their
very unique and distinct style. But they're is just something
something extra always has.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Been about depeche Mode.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You just can't compare it to anybody else, you know,
THEO You get close with some of the other bands
that popped up around them, but none of them really
were able to go and tap into what Martin did
with his lyrics, you know, and Dave to a lesser
extent later on, but definitely during those four albums, what
(23:27):
Martin was able to do, and what Alan contributed with
Dave's vocals and Fletch being the glue that kept them
all together. They're just they are such a unique band,
unto themselves. And I was thinking about that the other day,
just listening to some of the tracks, and I couldn't
even tell you off the top of my head what
(23:47):
it was just going. There's no other band that resonates
like this, which is why I do a podcast every
single week and have been for many, many years. So
all right, you know what, I need to nap.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
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Speaker 1 (26:51):
All Right, thank you so.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Much for checking out this week's episode. I hope wherever
you are you're happy, you're healthy, and you're safe. God
bless and I'll talk to you again next week.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Bah.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Hello, this is Martin Gore from depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I was going to depeche Mode depeche Mode the podcast
Hello, this is Martin Gold from Depeche Mode.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Alright, this is Gegone from Depeche Mode and you are
listening to.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
My word Rod.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Did you happen to see the photographs of Dave and
his family? I believe they were on vacation in Greece
on their summer vacation. Dave looked like he was having
quite a bit of fun, so I just thought i'd
shared that. As we kick off this week's episode Depeche
(00:38):
Mode the podcast, Welcome Devots. I'm your host, John Justice,
and I'm glad that you are with another episode. We
have a couple of interesting news items to share with
you this week on the show. Still no news about
the forthcoming m film or those unreleased tracks as we
continue to await some level of promotion coming from the
(00:59):
band for the film, which is supposed to come out
here in the next couple of months. Do you have
some listener feedback though, to go along with some official
news this week on the show. As always, if you
want to email me talkshow Nerd at gmail dot com,
or if you're enjoying the show up on YouTube, you
can check it out there. Let's get to the first
news item this week, Now this actually dropped like right
(01:24):
after I posted last week's episode, which always seems to happen,
by the way. I originally found this on the depeche
Mode europe X page. But long time sound Waves collaborators
Dave Gone and Martin Gore of depeche Mode are back
again with an incredible seven song artwork collection to fundraise
(01:49):
Notes for Notes. These are limited edition artworks to support
Notes for Notes. Earlier this month, the Rock and Roll
Hall of Famers and five time grand I Mean nominees
kindly signed this limited addition collection, just twelve prints and
one original per song created by sound Wave artist to
(02:12):
Tim Wakefield's favorite depeche Mode songs, including popular hits and
some deep cuts.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Now, I think the.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Original was enjoyed the silence, but I thought the mix
of songs that was chosen for this were rather interesting. Condemnation,
which we know is a Dave Gone favorite track, but
good Night Lovers, I Won It All, Perfect Rush, Sweetest Perfection,
and Waiting for the Night. So each original artwork also
(02:43):
features the song title handwritten by Dave Gone. Now, the
artwork in and of itself was based off of the music.
I believe the music is what created the patterns of
this art really beautiful by the way it looks it looked.
I mean, I'm no art Kannas Sewer by any stretch,
but I really thought the visuals were nice. The profits
(03:05):
for Notes for Notes, which provides youth with free access
to musical instruments, instruction, and recording studio environments so that
music may become a profoundly positive influence in their lives.
And this has also been added to the new Depeche
Mode auctions from previously sold out auctions which are all
available now on their auctions page. So there are some
(03:29):
videos that win along with this. Although the videos themselves
were just Dave and.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Martin doing the signing, you can watch them signing.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
There was no added conversation about anything you know worth
mentioning here on the.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
On the show.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I do find it rather interesting though, that with the
promotion of Mental More done and the band is clearly
on a break, we're expecting this promotion for the film
to come you know, any really any day now. Then
Martin and Dave you know, still take part in in
things like this doing charity work. The official Instagram page
(04:05):
posted this, and I guess the point that I want
to make is that the band is still active, even
though we have no announcement relating to any music anytime
in the near future. Martin and Dave have had several
opportunities to get together, whether it was the Tribeca Film
Festival for a festival, for the debut of the film itself.
(04:28):
You know, Martin's certainly going out and getting involved in
that pickleball tournament that was Apart from Dave. Obviously, we're
still awaiting the inclusion of the star on the Hollywood
Walk of Fame now I've been My understanding is David
Martin don't need to be there, but I imagine that
they will be, at least Martin since he doesn't live
far from that area. All of this, to me as
(04:49):
a fan, is very encouraging that we'll still get more
out of Depeche Mode, beyond the songs that have already
been created.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Why, I just when I see David Martin together is
still participating in things relating to Depeche Mode, I just
can't help but think that now this isn't over yet,
and you know, and it will be, you know, more
sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But I'm encouraged by this either way, it's exciting.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
If you haven't had a chance to go and check
it out, I would certainly encourage you to go and
do so.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I believe that a number.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Of these sold out to rather quickly, So all right,
let's move on to some more news from this week.
Depeche Mode fans call for hometown recognition so I'm working
off of the version here from BBC News. Fans of
(05:44):
the world's one of the world's biggest selling bands have
called for them to be officially recognized in their hometown.
Depeche Mode started out as a four piece inbaseled in
Essex in nineteen eighty before achieving global fame and their
trademark electronic sound and brooding lyrics. Bar Clay Corton, the
(06:04):
lead singer of the tribute band The Devout, said in
Baslden there should be some sort of mural or something
that draws in tourism from around the globe to say
the magic was created here. Now, the Baslden Council has
not responded to any request for comments as of yet. However,
Barklay Gorton said the magic started here in this little
(06:26):
town in Essex and it means a lot to millions
of millions of people. Calls for their official recognition came
as the BBC Radio four documentary Depeche Mode to Reach
Out and Touch Faith speaks to commentators and guests about
the group's working class roots and remarkable journey as musicians,
and I'll have further thoughts to share beyond what I
(06:47):
talked about last week. The band originally called Composition of
Sounds It's Just Ridiculous, formed by a friends, Andy Fletcher,
Vince Clark and Martin Gore before Dave Gone was recruited
later and now we get into a bit of a
history lesson that you and I both know, but we'll
go ahead and go through the article either way. They
performed for the first time as a four piece at
(07:08):
Nicholas School and now now James Hornsby School in Landen, Basildon,
which Gore and Fletch later attended, with Clark, a former
pupil at Landen High School. The band, however, mostly live
in the United States now and have been critical of
their hometown interviews. Gore was quoted as saying, I really
(07:31):
hated Basildon. I wanted to get out as quickly as
I could. I hear it's a pretty horrible place these days,
while Gone was quoted as saying all I remember about
Basilden was that it was awful. Deb Danahey first became
friends with Gon at Barnstables School, with Depeche Mode playing
one of their first gigs at a party she co
(07:51):
hosted at Paddock's Community Hall in Landen. She used to
help run the Depeche Mode information service the band's early days.
It was in relationship for four years with Clark, who
left to launch Yazoo with fellow Baslden musician Alison Moyer
and later a Rasure with Andy Bell. Miss Danahey now
(08:13):
takes dedicated Depeche Mode fans known as devotees, on tours
of Basilden, built to ease post war overcrowding in London.
The majority of visitors were from Europe, particularly Germany and
South America.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
She said.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Most of them think that they're going to come to town,
the town center, and there's going to be statues of
the band. They're really shocked that there isn't. Miss Danahey,
who lives on Canvey Island, said that while there was
a plaque in James Hornsby Sports Hall to commemorate Depeche
Mood's first gig, there was little else in the way
(08:49):
of official recognition. On tours, she limited to taking fans
to a board outside photographs of Gore, Fletch and Clark,
along with former pupils Alison Moyer, the Cures, Perry Beamonte
and Bob the Builder, and Paw Patrol creator Keith Chapman.
(09:10):
Fans appreciated the giant portraits of the band members in
the town Gate Theater too, she said, as pioneers of
the electronic sound inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame in twenty twenty, Depeche Mode and their peers
were shaped by growing up in a new town surrounded
by young people. Miss Danahey said, my parents came from Dagnenhim,
(09:32):
and lots of Dagnenhim and the East End people moved there.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
She said.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
They got a brand new house and the town center
wasn't even built then, And it's an analogy that I've
heard that it was. There was no old people. There
wasn't people saying you shouldn't be doing this, or that
we had so much freedom and didn't appreciate it because
we thought this was how every town was. Schools were
brand new, everything was completely brand new. It was just brilliant.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So it'll be interesting to see what comes of this.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
This actually has made quite as you know, there's been
quite a bit of attention to this attempt to give
them some recognition out of out of Basildon. When I
was doing the prep for the show this week, there
were several stories relating to this desire to give them
some recognition. So it'll be interesting to see whether or
(10:24):
not somebody is able to achieve something in terms of
marking that moment in history for the for the band.
So I'd love to know what you think. Talkshow Nerd
at gmail dot com or leave a comment again up
on YouTube. Let's go ahead and get to your listener
feedback this week. All right, first and foremost, before I
(10:49):
go say anything else. Last week on the show, I
was talking about the sample at the beginning of Stripped
with the car turning on that we knew it was
done from a Porsche. I wasn't sure at the time.
And because I record the show for live, I'm recording
the show, but I treat it like it's live because
(11:10):
that's just the best way that I perform. Because I'm
a radio talk show host, and so I'm live every
single day, so I don't like to do edit at
the same time, and probably not the best thing for
the quality of the show be that doesn't may it
doesn't provide me the opportunity to sort of stop down, however,
and go and do research.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The reason why I.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was confused and I didn't think that it was Dave's
Porsche was because I could have sworn that on the
Remasters documentary, they were talking with one of the foreign
label representatives and they brought up the topic of the
sampling and the sampling of that Porsche, and I could
have swore that he had said that it was somebody else's,
(11:51):
not Dave's, like it was JD. Fanger's or Kessler's Porsche.
It turns out it was Dave's Porsche. I just want
to say that for the record. I also want to mention, though,
what is kind of funny is that they included a
video of a Porsche in that documentary when they were
(12:12):
talking about and they played that sample of the car
starting up. That being said, the Porsche that they showed
in the documentary was absolutely not the same model and
brand of the Porsche that Dave actually owned at the
time when they did that sample in the early eighties,
just because I was able to go and track down
what kind of porschit a Porsche. Well, I was informed
(12:36):
of what kind of Porsche it was, and it was
not the Porsche. It was like a nine to eleven
that they used in the video, and that's not the
Porsche that Dava owned. So I had many of you
who were pointing this out, and I appreciate the clarification.
So I don't like it when I get my depeche
Mode trivia wrong, so I wanted to make sure that
I went and cleared that up. All right, let's get
(12:58):
to some of your feedback this week.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You can.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
First, let's hear from you're all friends of the show,
but friend of the show Chris Culpeper, who says, I
love when DM plays unexpected deep tracks to their live
sets as I get tired of the singles and so,
for example, flies on the wind screen during devotional I
Want you now during the Exotic tour. The things you
(13:21):
said during the spirit A tour, you know, listen, I
remember when deth Door made an appearance during the Devotional
tour as as well. The list there though I don't
know see. I always consider Flies on the wind Screen
to be a little bit more mainstream. I know it
wasn't like officially a single, but to me it always
mentally sort of think of it as a as a single.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But no, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I appreciate it when they do the deep tracks, which
became you know, which happened far less frequently as the
band got older and tour just because the set list
the number of songs in the set list remain while
they ended up accumulating more music, so any opportunities for
deep tracks were usually filled in by whatever album was
(14:08):
being promoted at the at the time. I've mentioned I've
made this comment before. I'd love to see Depecha do
a Metallica situation with two back to back nights and
one being sort of a hits night and the one
being more of a deep track and B side night.
I think that would be absolutely amazing. He goes on
(14:28):
to write, Martin may acoustically play a deep track from
time to time, but I am confident of the following
live probabilities. Nothing lie from a broken frame. My forty
year request for Sun in the Rainfall probably isn't happening,
And that was such a tease and the lead up
to the Momento Mary tour when Dave made that comment
(14:48):
two people are people and blasphemous Rumors were permanently retired
after the Music for the Masses tour in nineteen eighty eight.
Blasphemous Rumors, by the way, that's to me, that's a
crime that that has not been a consistent standard on tour.
I know for me as a fan and a burgeoning
fan during that time period, Blasphemous Rumors was a huge
(15:12):
track for me. I mean it was like one of
the definitive depeche Mode songs where at the time, if
you would have asked me what depeche Mode songs will
they always play live? Of course you get down the
line and you get your enjoyed the silist never let
me down again, personal Jesus, I absolutely would have included
(15:34):
blasphemous Rumors in there.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I think it's a crime that it's not. I also
would have.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Included the full, the full version of Shake the Disease
as well. So another question. I'll add it to the
list of questions whenever I have the opportunity to interview
Martin or Dave, why haven't you guys gone back to
playing blasphemous rumors. Chris goes on to say, if anything
is played live from Speaking Spell, it will just be
just can't get enough. Same precedent for Construction time again,
(15:59):
meaning everything counts. Hardcore DM fans acknowledge that Here Is
the House is one of their best. My request for
a Dave Martin Gore duet ain't happening. Thank you for
all you do continuing to fly the flag for us, Chris,
It's funny I've been doing. There's certain depeche Mode songs
(16:19):
I mentioned that I listened to just like five or
six songs every single night as I go to bed,
and Ghosts Again has been one that I listened to
every single night. It used to be cover Me was
sort of the standard, and it got moved out of
the rotation with the release of Memento Moriy. That being said,
I've worked it in Here is the House lately because
(16:40):
it is one of my all time probably top five
favorite depeche Mode songs is Here Is the House and
the song is so seductive, like you get into that track,
like so many of depeche Mode songs in the way
that they just build the way the songs progress and
you kind of start off with one track that's very simple,
(17:02):
but then once it kicks in, it just moves. Such
a spectacular song. I yeah, So thank you Chris for
that and giving me the opportunity to romanticize. Here's the
house a little tiny bit. All right, let's go and
hear from Andrew Fallon out of Essex, England. I'm just
talking about Essex. I like to thank you for your podcast.
(17:24):
Thank you, Andrew. I'm not one of the real obsessive
Depeche Mode fans, but since getting back into them after
Momento Maury, I've been dipping into your podcast every week
and they are an invaluable source of news.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And information, so thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
In your most recent podcast, you shared some listener feedback
about the new BBC audio documentary, which wasn't very positive.
Having just listened to it myself, I wanted to offer
an alternative perspective, as I actually found it very interesting.
I also find it very interesting because, as he admits
here and my apologies for my email digging over here,
they're kind of all combined together. So I apologize that's
(18:02):
what that's what that noise is. I haven't I just
thought i'd let you know. I have it set up
through an email on one of my computers and it
digs every time a new email pops up. Anyway, I
want to make mention that this VBC audio documentary is
tailored for an individual like Andrew, which I think is great.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
If this offers up the opportunity for people to find
out more about Depeche Mode within their fandom, I think
that's fantastic. I guess maybe I was a little harsh
on it last week, and it's mostly because of what
I had heard regarding it, and that most of it,
and it's true, most of it was about information that
I think a lot of us that listen to the
podcast are already aware of. But as Andrew proves here
(18:45):
with his comment, it actually turns out that there are
some casual fans out there right, not the real obsessive ones,
but casual ones that are still into Depeche Mode enough
to check out a podcast like this and may be
able to glean quite a bit of information they may
not be aware of with documentaries like this. As I
think you mentioned, the documentary provides a broad historical overview
(19:08):
of Depeche Mode rather than anything more in depth. The
documentary does, however, discuss the appeal of Depeche Mode to
their fans, and what I really liked was how the
perceptions of the band were placed in a cultural context
in terms of the way Depeche Mode are viewed in Britain,
including the town they're from, as opposed to other parts
of the world. Perhaps this was a personal thing for me,
(19:29):
as I'm from England and I grew up just down
the road from Basildon, which I know well. In the
UK and even in Basldon, Depeche Mode are massively underappreciated,
as we were just talking about with the news of
trying to provide them some recognition there. It's not that
people hate them, they just don't really know about them
other than just can't get enough. So it was interesting
to hear the discussion of this kind of thing. I
(19:52):
also learned that some of the new things from the documentary.
For example, here in Britain, just can't get enough has
been adopted as a ball soccer chant, including it would
seem in the Premier League are equivalent to your NFL,
you know. I had heard that as well. In short,
for those who are able, I would definitely recommend giving
the documentary a listen. Thanks again for your podcast and
(20:13):
best wishes, Andrew Fallon, Essex, England. Thank you for that, Andrew,
and I very much appreciate your kind words and also
your feedback regarding that documentary. And I'll reiterate something I
said on last week's episode on TikTok. It really is incredible.
The algorithm has been feeding me this, but I've also
(20:34):
been following these accounts. Just the number of young individuals
that have gotten into Depeche Mode. It's just it really
is so it's so cool to see. And it makes
sense too, you know, have a I have a I
have an eighteen year old who am nineteen in December.
(20:54):
I have a twenty three year old. They're both at home.
This is just the way things are now, which is fine,
very thankful. The wife and I are incredibly thankful to
have both of our boys here with us for as
long as they can.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
They can be here.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But the themes in Depeche Mode's work, especially when you
go back to the Holy Grail, you know, or the
Holy Quadrilogy, I think I should call it of Black
Celebration Music for the Masses, Violator Songs of Faith, and Devotion.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Typically I go trilogy. You know this if you've been
listening to the song, to.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
The album, to the podcast starting to fade, Guys, if
you've been listening to the podcast for any length of time,
I usually kind of go the trilogy, Music for the Masses, Violator,
Songs of Faith and Devotion. I came to the realization though,
that the real transition started with Black Celebration, and this
was based off of some of the emails where we
were talking about the various eras and previous podcasts of
(21:50):
the band, and really it's a quadrilogy. It doesn't get
much better than Black Celebration, Music for the Masses, Violator,
and Songs of Faith and Devotion in terms of the
progression of the band, the stylistic intention of every single album,
how they differentiate from one another, the number of tracks
that are just so good in all four of those albums,
(22:12):
It just they just there are four masterful pieces of work,
and those four albums, the lyrical content, the vibe, it's
no shock that young people are finding them and getting
into them later you know, as we get later on
that young people are finding them and gravitating towards them
because it speaks to every generation going through what you
(22:35):
and I went through when we were their age, going
through the difficulties heading into adulthood. It really is cool
to see on top of that, there's just no other
band like depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Every band is unique, every band is different. They all
the popular bands, the good bands, they all have their
very unique and distinct style. But they're is just something
something extra always has.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Been about depeche Mode.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You just can't compare it to anybody else, you know,
THEO You get close with some of the other bands
that popped up around them, but none of them really
were able to go and tap into what Martin did
with his lyrics, you know, and Dave to a lesser
extent later on, but definitely during those four albums, what
(23:27):
Martin was able to do, and what Alan contributed with
Dave's vocals and Fletch being the glue that kept them
all together. They're just they are such a unique band,
unto themselves. And I was thinking about that the other day,
just listening to some of the tracks, and I couldn't
even tell you off the top of my head what
(23:47):
it was just going. There's no other band that resonates
like this, which is why I do a podcast every
single week and have been for many, many years. So
all right, you know what, I need to nap.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Thank you so much for checking out this week's episode.
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Listen.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
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All Right, thank you so.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Much for checking out this week's episode. I hope wherever
you are you're happy, you're healthy, and you're safe. God
bless and I'll talk to you again next week.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Bah.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
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