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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, this is mart and Gold from depeche Mode. Alright,
this is digone from depeche Mode and you are listening
to my nerd rolland it is depeche Mode the podcast.
How's it going? I'm your host, John Justice here to
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bring you the latest news when it's available and commentary
about the greatest band on the planet. It's arguable, but
you devotees know what I am talking about, all right
on this week's episode. Of course, we have your emails.
You can always drop me that talkshow nerd at gmail
(00:49):
dot com, or if you happen to be enjoying the
show up on YouTube, leave a comment there as well.
There was the BBC documentary the debuted a few days ago.
I'll give you some thoughts on on that. Also the
track listing for the upcoming Depeche Mode film m of
which there has been no marketing whatsoever. I'll talk a
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little bit about that as well. Getting into the BBC documentary.
I have some thoughts that came about because of that
of future promotion for Depeche Mode projects. Who was in
charge then the decisions that they were making that are
better now and again it's different times in terms of
record labels and the band's popularity, so I'm not gonna
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be too harsh on it, even though this fan and
I think you as well, would love to see some
news coming out of future releases in terms of remixes, reissues,
potential box sets, and of course promotion for this film
that while many of you listening have had the chance
to see because you went to the Tribeca Film Festival,
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the rest of the world hasn't yet, and it's supposed
to be coming out in the next few months, and
there hasn't been any sort of information about the official
release date, to trailer or anything like that. So I
will share with you some of the information that I
was able to find, and specifically the track listing of
somebody who went and actually saw the film. So let's
go ahead and start here for this week's episode of
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Depeche Mode the Podcast. So we'll start off with an
email first, and we have more to get into in
the official listener feedback portion of the show. But friend
of the show, rom Ed writes, I've been trying to
listen to the new BBC podcast documentary regarding Depeche Mode
without any look. Were you able to listen to it
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at all looking forward to the podcast. Let us know
if you were able to listen to it. Always enjoy
listening to the show, Thank you Rome. Unfortunately I was not,
and I think that this might happen. This might be
because we're not living in earshot of the BBC and
so platforms that are overseas as we would be don't
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have access to the BBC material. I tried several times
this morning to listen to this mini documentary and unfortunately
came up no good. What I did do, though, is
I went through and did a little bit of research
several listeners to the show and if you were, if
you're overseas and you're able to listen to the show,
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I would love to hear your thoughts. But I did
read some reviews from fans who did have the opportunity
to listen to it, and unfortunately I didn't hear very
good things about it, and that's kind of a bummer.
Apparently there isn't anything new in terms of recent comments
from the band. There was some clips of Martin and
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Dave in the documentary and the band members, but nothing
nothing new. It was rehashed and material. I heard from
several different individuals that said there was kind of an
annoying music bed that was running in the background of
the documentary, and there was very little of depeche Mode
music in the documentary, which I am painfully aware of,
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probably due to licensing issues, because the band's label is
really good about making sure that if you play any
Depechemo music, they are going to tag you on it.
Oddly enough, my releasing of in the end of the
version that I had on a previous podcast hasn't been
tagged yet, and I can only imagine it's because the
licensing of the song, because it hasn't been officially released,
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isn't in the queue in terms of the AI going
and scouring the internet for individuals that are unauthorized to
be playing Depechemo music. I also read several comments relating
to this BBC mini documentary that it was kind of
bland in its presentation and it was basically just in
historical overview of the band and information that you and
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I already know, and therein lies kind of the problem
because if you had asked me ahead of that documentary
what my expectations want or Unfortunately, apart from some of
the specifics like the comments about the music, bed I
would have guessed that it was probably going to be
a rather straightforward, surface level analyzing of the band's history
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and career without getting into any sort of depth or
new information that you and I don't already know and
listen very in the past. In my opinion, whichever label
was attached to the band, and this would be well,
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I'll lay the timeline out here in a minute, but
I think previous labels and when the band was on
more of a consistent active cycle of releasing records where
we weren't talking about post Delta Machine and certainly post
Spirit of will they make another record? That was always
assumed they would make another record. There are very few
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casual fans of depeche Mo, and I'm gonna add context
to that statement, but there are very few casual fans
of the band, and those that are are not consuming
content like these documentaries now I'm talking about. In terms
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of the total fandom of Depeche Mode, I would say
that a smaller portion than most people realize are casual fans.
That's what's special about this band is how it endures
and connects with its audience, where it's not enough to
just have the albums you know, so many of us
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are complete as we clamor and crave to get further
information about this band. There's a connection that the band
has always made with its audience, which drives the fandom
that wants to consume as much as we possibly can.
There are certainly obviously a lot of casual fans. They
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come out for the shows, they know all the hits.
The band is aware of this, but most of the
fandom that's consuming the documentaries like the one playing on
the BBC are more of your hardcore fans. I don't
think the casual fans are gravitating. Are gravitating towards documentaries
like that. So it's tough not to be disappointed when
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you hear documentary like that, because it's the hardcore fans
that want to hear new information or something they haven't
heard before. And so when you get some sort of
surface level documentary that runs a half hour, it's kind
of like, oh, I heard all this before. It's interesting
to see it packaged in a different way, but it's
not all that exciting. And I'll give you a really
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good example going back to the well, let's see, this
would be the tail end of the nineteen nineties and
you look at say the Behind the Music documentary back
when that show was airing, that documentary was fantastic. I mean,
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we ended up getting insight into the band and interviews
and comments that we never seen before. It is a
damn shame that that was never released officially, even though
you can go and find really grainy clips online. That
was in terms of chronicling the start of the band
up until Ultra and all of what the band dealt with.
I mean, it is one of the best documentaries that's
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out there now. The earlier release documentaries all did provide
that level of insight and new information that you and
I always looked for a lot of varying guests on
the documentaries for the remastered releases, different labels from different
parts of the of the of the globe, from different
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countries all over the world, talking about their views of
a particular album, talking to those that worked on the album,
providing levels of insight that we had seen before. You
know that all seemed to stop after playing the Angel,
which is such a bummer. You know, Delta Machine, you
have Anton Korbin's documentary, you have his concert footage alive
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in Berlin, Spirit of course you have Spirits in the Forest,
but that was focused on a handful of fans, and
the concert you know, Memento Mary. These have all lacked
comprehensive documentaries, and all of those releases, by the way,
in my opinion, could absolutely benefit in an incredibly positive way,
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a detailed breakdown in documentary examination into the making of
those records. I hope that one day we do. I
am dying to know, you know, Playing the Angel. We
got some on the you know, on the on the
official release, there was a documentary that was attached to it.
I mean, one of the last best documentaries is the
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one that came out the multiple documentaries that came out
in that massive box set for Sounds of the unif
And I firmly believe that I appreciate those albums that
I just mentioned that came before in no small part
to the recording process and the insight that was given
into the creative choices made on Exciter and Playing the
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Angel and Sounds of the Universe. And I would really
love to get that same sort of insight into Delta
Machine and Spirit and Memento Mori, an album that I
already love, but especially Spirit because this is an album
that I really, I think most of us fans have
really struggled with and I can't help but wonder. And
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this happens to me when it comes to documentary for movies,
where I find details within the creative process that make
me respect of the film more so than I did before,
when you find out why creative choices were made in
a particular way, or how when it comes to films,
particular see were crafted or special effects were deployed. In
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this case, I would love to know decisions that were
made that led to the versions that we received of
the songs on those on those albums, because we'll get
into this and listener feedback. A friend of the show
had asked a question of which albums next to my
mental mariy do I like less? And I'll talk about
that coming up. So I would hope that one day
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we would get those things. I assume they were chronicled
and questions that I would ask the band Why did
those comprehensive documentaries stop so seemingly abruptly. It may just
be a byproduct of not having platforms to release those
documentaries on the way that we did with the with
the re releases and again I'm just making excuses right now.
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I don't know what the what the answer, what the
answer is. But that little snippet that we received as
fans in the run up to the release of Momental
Maurri and the promotion, those one off comments talking about
the difficulty of making Spirit sounds an awful lot like
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what the band went through, although different circumstances with the
making of songs of faith and devotion and Spirit is
an album whose production I very much enjoy, but the
music in and of itself I've struggled with. And I'll
just say it one more time, if I had a
comprehensive documentary on the making of that album, perhaps it
would help me sort of break through some of the
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frustrations that I have listening to that album and how
the songs just don't connect with me. I'm looking for
a connection to those to those particular songs. So as always,
love to hear your thoughts talkshow Nerd at gmail dot com,
or throw that comment up in the comments section on YouTube.
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So I'm gonna put a bit of a caveat on this.
I found this online from an individual who said they
had seen the memento Maury excuse me, well, the Memento
Mary Tour, but the Depeche Mode film m and they
put out the complete track listing. According to their recollection.
They say the order may be a bit off. They
were going based off of memory. But I hadn't seen
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yet a list of the songs that they chose for
the performances of the film, so I thought that I
would share that with you this week. So here is
the list, eighteen tracks in all, two of which take
place during the credits. However, but my cosmos is mine,
wagging tongue, It's no good, everything counts, Sister of Night,
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speak to me, my favorite stranger soul with me, Wrong,
a pain that I'm used to, world in my eyes, stripped, enjoyed,
the silence, condemnation, never let me down again, personal Jesus.
And then of course you had in the end the
unreleased tracks that plays during the credits, and also Ghosts
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again played during the credits. Listen. I kind of dig
this playlist, and I like the fact that we get
wagging tongue, speak to me, my favorite stranger soul with me.
I think it's unfortunate the Ghosts Again ended up in
the credits, but also my Cosmos is Mine. I just
I like the inclusion of the majority of the momento
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morey tracks that they were playing that they played on tour.
It's unfortunate that Before We Drown wasn't included, as it
is unfortunate in my view that Ghosts Again wasn't officially
in the set list. That being said, for me personally,
there's a Ghosts Again Live version that was shot from
a few rows back of where I saw them with
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my friend Matthew in Denver, and that's my go to
to go watch Ghosts Again Live, So listen either way.
Sixteen tracks for the film. It's a nice, nice, healthy amount.
Reminds me quite a bit of the tearing down that
was done for the devotional release. What I have seen
of the documentary so far has me excited. The stylistic
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choices that Fernando Freus made for the film. I think
it's gonna work quite nicely, and I certainly heard positive
things from the individuals that actually went and saw the film.
Hopefully we'll receive more official information about when it's coming
out and where we can watch it coming up sooner
than later. All right, let's get into your listener feedback
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this week. Again, leave a comment up on YouTube or
email me talkshow Nerd at gmail dot com. Chris Culpeper
writes this, I'm sure you've heard the Alan Wilder some
great Reward demos that he created solely with his vocals.
Nothing really impressive, he says, but still a cool find.
I have not heard those, and at some point coming
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up this weekend, just because I've been super busy, I'm
going to try to go and seek out to find
those because I have not heard those demos before. As
a matter of fact, I didn't even know that there
were demos created solely with Alan Wilder and his vocals,
So that's something that I need to go and track
down now. Chris goes on to ask which studio albums
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do you feel are inferior to Memento Mori, and then
he also says, have you ever considered incorporating fans questions
for you with a video accompaniment so you can see
or our face hear our words? Or is it too
much work? You know, listen, I would love to do that,
and I know I've said this a lot of times
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on the show. The difficulty that I have in doing
the show on a weekly basis is my time is
just so limited with my full time job, and so
I try to make sure that I can do a
show every week. And I would absolutely love to do
more with the show, including getting an abundance of guests
on the show. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time
to do so because my time fluctuates so much and
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I don't know when I'm going to or the podcast.
So I have a list of things that I would
love to do with the show in the future, but
it's only going to be able to come about if
one it's more financially viable, but more specifically and more importantly,
if I were to go and have the time to
do it, I just simply don't. I have an eighth
book idea for my Embark science fiction series that I
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would love to write, and I got started on a
while back, and even then I just simply don't have
the time to sit down and go and write the book.
So regarding the studio albums that I feel are inferior
to Momento Mari, this is really tough because I started
to sort of look at that question based off of
a Desert Island disc sort of concept of which albums
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would I take with me and which ones do I
find somewhat inferior. So I'll kind of track that and well,
I'll answer that question in the way that I've already
mentioned in terms of ranking Memento Moriy and that is
I would probably put everything Post Ultra as inferior to
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Memento may But I have a you know, I have
a difficult time even being that specific because there are
so many really good, strong tracks on other albums that
would keep me from not including them on a desert island. Thankfully,
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we don't have to go and do that, so let
me pare it down a little bit more. I would
definitely say that I feel Delta Machine and Spirit are
inferior to Memento moriy. I might slide in there Sounds
of the Universe, but there are some tracks on that
album that I absolutely love, you know, playing the Angel
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and I know a lot of people are down on Exciter,
but Exciter is such a unique and interesting album and
such as we talked about last week on the show,
a turning point for the band after everything they'd gone through.
It marks the new era with the singles tour behind them,
Alan's left the band. They did an album after Alan
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Dave got off of his drug addiction, and that EXCI
album really sets the stage for that next era of
the of the band. So I guess I would probably
have to go Delta Machine and Spirit, even though there
are aspects of both those albums I really enjoy. I
just feel like Memento Moriy overall is a complete package.
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Is just to solve a much better from top to bottom,
beginning to end representation of the band than those other
two albums are. There's a cohesiveness and a consistency. With
Delta Machine and Spirit, there's just this disjointedness in my
view in terms of the quality of the songs on
the album, and both of them could have been benefited
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by pairing back some of the tracks in which I
also had discussed on last week's show. So I kind
of danced around that a bit, Chris, but I hope
that ultimately answers your question. And either way, thank you
so much for the comment this week. All right, see
what ninety eight seventy eight on YouTube rights thanks to
the podcast episode. Your line in the end almost seems
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single worthy. Made me think it literally is the first
time that we have had more than one new DM
track between albums we had Shake the Disease and Only
When I Lose Myself and Martyr for the singles compilations
and the best of compilations. So four new tracks in
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between an album is a first in DM's history. So
what if we indeed get a single release and if
it is only digital on streaming of in the end
with M's cinema release since September or October, November, or
whenever the film comes out in cinemas, I'm sure a
physical release of all four tracks will follow later, not
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before M's physical release. So first off, let me push
back on one thing. I would include Surrender in there
with Only When I Lose Myself, as those were both
recorded during the Ultra sessions and came out well, one
of them ended up being a B side, obviously, but
they did come out post post Ultra, and it served
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as as a B side on one of the compilations
for the singles release. Right, But you are indeed right.
I mean, this is four new tracks, and I'm trying
to go back and think Dangerous, Sea of Sin, Happiest
Girl that was only three, right, So I'll repeat just
the commentary that I said before about those four unreleased tracks.
I think they're all four of them are of really
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good quality, and whether or not they release all four,
that's what I've been told is supposed to happen, that
all four are supposed to come out in promotion of
the album. It makes me wonder a little bit if
we'll get in the end with the release of the film.
But perhaps those three other tracks will be reserved for
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whenever the band, if the band ever decides to release
a vinyl single box set for the singles that were
released on the album. But Memento Mari was unique, and
the number of songs that they chose to have remixed
was certainly well beyond your typical singles released cycle attached
to the album. So I would really love to hear
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from you and your thoughts on what see what had
to say here regarding singles in between or B sides
in between albums and what kind of format we'll end
up getting those tracks in. And perhaps some of those
more notable listeners to the show that may have some
inside information that I can or cannot share, maybe they
would like to reach out to me and let me
know as well. I'll just leave it at that. Talkshow
(22:53):
Nerd at Gmail dot com all right. Stephanie from the
Baltic Sea writes this, I don't have a song interrogator
on DM, but I've always wondered what a sound was
collected on pipeline? Is that a ping pong ball? I
have no idea, and is that really an engine starting
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on stripped? And does make amends and alibis and don't
say you love me, refer to home and the lyric line,
pretend that I'll make amends. That's it for me. Thanks
as always for the effort and the great thoughts on
the podcast. Best wishes from the Baltic Sea, Stephanie. So
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you know, Martin likes to revisit concepts and ideas and
song titles and song lyrics. There's no surprise about that.
So the make amends and alibis and the pretend that
I'll make amends, that doesn't surprise me. Martin's got his
own vernacular and certainly hasn't shied away from again repeating
certain types of phrases or the way that things are
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are worded. As I've said, one of the questions that
I would love to ask either of them when it
comes to Memento moriy were some of those moments on
the album intended to be nods to previous records. The
scratch squeal at the beginning of People Are Good that
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sounds just like it was lifted from I Feel You.
The sometimes out of Caroline's Monkey that sounds like it
came from Cleans as well. So I would very much
be curious. I'm very curious to know whether or not
they did those things intentionally in terms of the sampling
that was done. The best source for that would be
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to go back to those remastered documentaries and especially the
ones for some Great Reward construction time again. In Black Celebration,
they get into a lot of detail in terms of
what they used for sound sampling. One of the coolest
ones I always thought was when for well, it's either
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Black Celebration or fly on the wind screen. I want
to say it's Black Celebration, and I know that you
listening will correct me if it's not. But where they
set up the mics in the field and they had
the fireworks that were going off over might have been
flying on the wind screen. It's been a long morning.
I did the show already today and then the starting
(25:24):
engine on strip. Yeah, I believe that was one of
the label Guys's Porsche, right or was it actually was
it Jonathan Kessler's Porsche? I know it was somebody's Porsche
that they ended up sampling for the starting up of
the of the of the at the at the beginning
of Stripped. Sorry, I'm beginning to fade. Can you tell?
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You kind of hit that point as a broadcaster when
you do so much work and when I enter into
sort of a four hour mark that that's when I
begin to sort of trip myself up. And I'm about
there because I also recorded my Star Wars podcast just
before I sat down to record this one. So, as always, Stephanie,
thank you so much for the comment. This week, all right,
let's also hear from Ricardo Gomez, who writes this. I
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reached out a while back to share how Depeche Mode
has been the soundtrack of my life. Their music has
journeyed with me through nearly every season, good and bad.
This year, my wife and I are celebrating twenty nine
years of marriage. Congratulations. My wife and I just celebrated
our twenty fifth. When we first started dating, she quickly
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learned Depeche Mode was my favorite band, and I doubt
she'd realized that by marrying me, she'd be welcoming them,
welcoming them into the family too. Yeah, I lucked out
because Melinda was already a fan of Depeche Mode when
we met, so that was pretty awesome. Certainly not as
hardcore as I am, but she did go to many
shows during the Excited tour with me. One of our
early good byes was her seeing me off as I
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left for a short trip to Sacramento to catch the
Exotic Tour with a group of friends. Our first concert
together was the Singles Tour in ninety eight, and she
joined me at nearly every show I've attended since. We
hit a rough patch in the mid two thousands, right
around the time of Playing the Angel. That album always
takes me back to that difficult time, and I'm grateful
(27:11):
we made it through. I know the record stirs up
some heavy memories for you too. It's wild how Martin's
lyrics felt like they were written just for me during
that time. Yeah, and you know what, I know that
I've made mention of it, obviously you brought it up.
But Playing the Angel is the one that I've got
to do something to break the nostalgia feels attached to
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that record. It is, and I haven't done a lot
of research on it, and maybe I should, but there's
got to be a way to do that. There are
several albums in my life, for good and bad, that
are associated with very specific times. Playing The Angel is
one of them. I was living in Grand Rapids, Michigan,
(27:56):
going through a difficult time with the radio station. Melinda
was pregnant with Kyle, who is now going on nineteen
in December, and every that album came out right in
the middle of all that turmoil, and there's a very specific, unnerving,
nostalgic feeling that I have when I listen to that record.
The worst one for me is another band that I
(28:18):
absolutely love, and that's Churches and their album Screen Violence
is absolutely fantastic. I love that record, but unfortunately I
fell in love to that record at the moment when
I was dealing with a myriad of health issues that
ended up leading into my third open heart surgery and
(28:38):
going through one of the worst periods of my life
in terms of anxiety, topping it off with the loss
of my friend. I'm so thankful that Memento Morey came
out after all of that, because that album could have
been the album that was tainted, and screen violence is
so tainted for me, I cannot listen to it because
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it immediately brings those feelings of that period of time
and it bums me. It absolutely bums me out, and
I haven't I haven't looked into how to break from that.
There's got to be a way to do it. I've
just simply avoided listening to both of those albums, and
including playing the Angel Now I can listen to some
of the singles off of it doesn't bother me. But
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listening to that album top to bottom, it's it's really difficult,
and it sucks because it's a great album, all right.
Getting back to Ricardo's comments, Depeche Mode is almost always
playing in our home or on the road. One of
my favorite things is watching Amanda sing along, comment on
a lyric or point out a sound that stands out
to her. Her favorite song is Condemnation, and seeing her
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light up when they played it live in Los Angeles
in March of twenty twenty three was priceless. As for
in the end, I honestly think it would have fit
perfectly with Memento Moriy maybe right in between Never Let
Me Go and speak to me, and hey, now I've
got the perfect song to play during my life. Clyde's
show at my funeral will own nothing in the end.
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Thanks for what you do. Keep up the great work,
Ricardo Gomez. I actually think that in the end, Well
speak to Me, I think really caps the album alf
Well Memento Moriy less about the lyrical content and more
about the music itself, which makes sense. I think the
band kind of eyed that song to be the last
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song on the album, and James Ford and Martas so Longney,
as has been documented, were the ones that created the
music for that. Dave gave them permission, so they really
do go and it really does sort of cap off
the album. That being said in the end, would have
been the perfect finale from a Mento Maury. It's an
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absolutely fantastic song and I am so excited to eventually
get a clean copy of that. I'm glad the copy
that I have is as good as it is, but
the production work on that album and Spirit is so
fantast in my opinion. The sound quality is just great.
I don't have the greatest stereo in my car, but
I can crank Momento Mori and it does not deliver
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any sort of distortion or loss of the quality of
the music and the intricacies of the different layers that
they used in those songs. The production work is just fantastic.
I cannot say the same thing for an album like
Songs of Faith and Devotion, which is just a bummer
to me. I cannot crank that record because it just
ends up becoming sort of a washed wall of sound
that it's really really disappointing. I want to add one
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more thought on this, though, I have the algorithm on
social media has been feeding me a lot of clips
about Depeche Mode from other fans, and if you're not
on social media, I want to share this with you.
It is really amazing to see the number of young
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people who have found Depeche Mode and are now fans
like you and I were back at that age. I'm
talking individuals in their twenties early twenties who post videos
dancing and singing along to, you know, various tracks. There
seems to be no specificity relating to a particular era.
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I've heard songs from the latter era albums, I've heard
songs from the early part of their career. In these
particular clips It speaks to how this music resonates with
young people the way that it did for us those
decades ago it still does today. It reminds me a
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bit of getting into getting into music and seeing people
wearing Jimmy Hendrick shirts or Beatle shirts or rolling stones. Yeah,
they were still making music, but this was sort of
older generation music and young people finding these bands that
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had been around or had already come and gone. I'm
seeing the same thing happened now with depeche Mode, and
it's really really amazing to see that there is a
brand new, whole new generation out there finding this band,
to the point where if the band toured again, because
I think this is a relatively new phenomenon of young
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people finding Depeche Mode on social networking, if the band
were to tour again, I'm gonna venture a guest that
a lot of these a lot of these kids, because
I don't think all of these individuals are finding it
because of their parents. I think they're finding the band
on their own. I would venture a guest that you
would see a much younger audience along with us old farts, right,
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us older devotees. I don't think I've ever referred to
myself as an old fart, but I just did I
think we would see a lot more young people showing
up at the show. I could be wrong on that,
but I just wanted to share it with you because
it was really cool to see so many young individuals
making these videos and show sharing their own devotion to
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How do us older longtime Depeche Mode fans look to
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There was the BBC documentary the debuted a few days ago.
I'll give you some thoughts on on that. Also the
track listing for the upcoming Depeche Mode film m of
which there has been no marketing whatsoever. I'll talk a
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little bit about that as well. Getting into the BBC documentary.
I have some thoughts that came about because of that
of future promotion for Depeche Mode projects. Who was in
charge then the decisions that they were making that are
better now and again it's different times in terms of
record labels and the band's popularity, so I'm not gonna
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be too harsh on it, even though this fan and
I think you as well, would love to see some
news coming out of future releases in terms of remixes, reissues,
potential box sets, and of course promotion for this film
that while many of you listening have had the chance
to see because you went to the Tribeca Film Festival,
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the rest of the world hasn't yet, and it's supposed
to be coming out in the next few months, and
there hasn't been any sort of information about the official
release date, to trailer or anything like that. So I
will share with you some of the information that I
was able to find, and specifically the track listing of
somebody who went and actually saw the film. So let's
go ahead and start here for this week's episode of
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Depeche Mode the Podcast. So we'll start off with an
email first, and we have more to get into in
the official listener feedback portion of the show. But friend
of the show, rom Ed writes, I've been trying to
listen to the new BBC podcast documentary regarding Depeche Mode
without any look. Were you able to listen to it
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at all looking forward to the podcast. Let us know
if you were able to listen to it. Always enjoy
listening to the show, Thank you Rome. Unfortunately I was not,
and I think that this might happen. This might be
because we're not living in earshot of the BBC and
so platforms that are overseas as we would be don't
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have access to the BBC material. I tried several times
this morning to listen to this mini documentary and unfortunately
came up no good. What I did do, though, is
I went through and did a little bit of research
several listeners to the show and if you were, if
you're overseas and you're able to listen to the show,
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I would love to hear your thoughts. But I did
read some reviews from fans who did have the opportunity
to listen to it, and unfortunately I didn't hear very
good things about it, and that's kind of a bummer.
Apparently there isn't anything new in terms of recent comments
from the band. There was some clips of Martin and
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Dave in the documentary and the band members, but nothing
nothing new. It was rehashed and material. I heard from
several different individuals that said there was kind of an
annoying music bed that was running in the background of
the documentary, and there was very little of depeche Mode
music in the documentary, which I am painfully aware of,
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probably due to licensing issues, because the band's label is
really good about making sure that if you play any
Depechemo music, they are going to tag you on it.
Oddly enough, my releasing of in the end of the
version that I had on a previous podcast hasn't been
tagged yet, and I can only imagine it's because the
licensing of the song, because it hasn't been officially released,
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isn't in the queue in terms of the AI going
and scouring the internet for individuals that are unauthorized to
be playing Depechemo music. I also read several comments relating
to this BBC mini documentary that it was kind of
bland in its presentation and it was basically just in
historical overview of the band and information that you and
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I already know, and therein lies kind of the problem
because if you had asked me ahead of that documentary
what my expectations want or Unfortunately, apart from some of
the specifics like the comments about the music, bed I
would have guessed that it was probably going to be
a rather straightforward, surface level analyzing of the band's history
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and career without getting into any sort of depth or
new information that you and I don't already know and
listen very in the past. In my opinion, whichever label
was attached to the band, and this would be well,
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I'll lay the timeline out here in a minute, but
I think previous labels and when the band was on
more of a consistent active cycle of releasing records where
we weren't talking about post Delta Machine and certainly post
Spirit of will they make another record? That was always
assumed they would make another record. There are very few
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casual fans of depeche Mo, and I'm gonna add context
to that statement, but there are very few casual fans
of the band, and those that are are not consuming
content like these documentaries now I'm talking about. In terms
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of the total fandom of Depeche Mode, I would say
that a smaller portion than most people realize are casual fans.
That's what's special about this band is how it endures
and connects with its audience, where it's not enough to
just have the albums you know, so many of us
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are complete as we clamor and crave to get further
information about this band. There's a connection that the band
has always made with its audience, which drives the fandom
that wants to consume as much as we possibly can.
There are certainly obviously a lot of casual fans. They
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come out for the shows, they know all the hits.
The band is aware of this, but most of the
fandom that's consuming the documentaries like the one playing on
the BBC are more of your hardcore fans. I don't
think the casual fans are gravitating. Are gravitating towards documentaries
like that. So it's tough not to be disappointed when
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you hear documentary like that, because it's the hardcore fans
that want to hear new information or something they haven't
heard before. And so when you get some sort of
surface level documentary that runs a half hour, it's kind
of like, oh, I heard all this before. It's interesting
to see it packaged in a different way, but it's
not all that exciting. And I'll give you a really
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good example going back to the well, let's see, this
would be the tail end of the nineteen nineties and
you look at say the Behind the Music documentary back
when that show was airing, that documentary was fantastic. I mean,
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we ended up getting insight into the band and interviews
and comments that we never seen before. It is a
damn shame that that was never released officially, even though
you can go and find really grainy clips online. That
was in terms of chronicling the start of the band
up until Ultra and all of what the band dealt with.
I mean, it is one of the best documentaries that's
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out there now. The earlier release documentaries all did provide
that level of insight and new information that you and
I always looked for a lot of varying guests on
the documentaries for the remastered releases, different labels from different
parts of the of the of the globe, from different
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countries all over the world, talking about their views of
a particular album, talking to those that worked on the album,
providing levels of insight that we had seen before. You
know that all seemed to stop after playing the Angel,
which is such a bummer. You know, Delta Machine, you
have Anton Korbin's documentary, you have his concert footage alive
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in Berlin, Spirit of course you have Spirits in the Forest,
but that was focused on a handful of fans, and
the concert you know, Memento Mary. These have all lacked
comprehensive documentaries, and all of those releases, by the way,
in my opinion, could absolutely benefit in an incredibly positive way,
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a detailed breakdown in documentary examination into the making of
those records. I hope that one day we do. I
am dying to know, you know, Playing the Angel. We
got some on the you know, on the on the
official release, there was a documentary that was attached to it.
I mean, one of the last best documentaries is the
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one that came out the multiple documentaries that came out
in that massive box set for Sounds of the unif
And I firmly believe that I appreciate those albums that
I just mentioned that came before in no small part
to the recording process and the insight that was given
into the creative choices made on Exciter and Playing the
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Angel and Sounds of the Universe. And I would really
love to get that same sort of insight into Delta
Machine and Spirit and Memento Mori, an album that I
already love, but especially Spirit because this is an album
that I really, I think most of us fans have
really struggled with and I can't help but wonder. And
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this happens to me when it comes to documentary for movies,
where I find details within the creative process that make
me respect of the film more so than I did before,
when you find out why creative choices were made in
a particular way, or how when it comes to films,
particular see were crafted or special effects were deployed. In
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this case, I would love to know decisions that were
made that led to the versions that we received of
the songs on those on those albums, because we'll get
into this and listener feedback. A friend of the show
had asked a question of which albums next to my
mental mariy do I like less? And I'll talk about
that coming up. So I would hope that one day
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we would get those things. I assume they were chronicled
and questions that I would ask the band Why did
those comprehensive documentaries stop so seemingly abruptly. It may just
be a byproduct of not having platforms to release those
documentaries on the way that we did with the with
the re releases and again I'm just making excuses right now.
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I don't know what the what the answer, what the
answer is. But that little snippet that we received as
fans in the run up to the release of Momental
Maurri and the promotion, those one off comments talking about
the difficulty of making Spirit sounds an awful lot like
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what the band went through, although different circumstances with the
making of songs of faith and devotion and Spirit is
an album whose production I very much enjoy, but the
music in and of itself I've struggled with. And I'll
just say it one more time, if I had a
comprehensive documentary on the making of that album, perhaps it
would help me sort of break through some of the
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frustrations that I have listening to that album and how
the songs just don't connect with me. I'm looking for
a connection to those to those particular songs. So as always,
love to hear your thoughts talkshow Nerd at gmail dot com,
or throw that comment up in the comments section on YouTube.
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So I'm gonna put a bit of a caveat on this.
I found this online from an individual who said they
had seen the memento Maury excuse me, well, the Memento
Mary Tour, but the Depeche Mode film m and they
put out the complete track listing. According to their recollection.
They say the order may be a bit off. They
were going based off of memory. But I hadn't seen
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yet a list of the songs that they chose for
the performances of the film, so I thought that I
would share that with you this week. So here is
the list, eighteen tracks in all, two of which take
place during the credits. However, but my cosmos is mine,
wagging tongue, It's no good, everything counts, Sister of Night,
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speak to me, my favorite stranger soul with me, Wrong,
a pain that I'm used to, world in my eyes, stripped, enjoyed,
the silence, condemnation, never let me down again, personal Jesus.
And then of course you had in the end the
unreleased tracks that plays during the credits, and also Ghosts
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again played during the credits. Listen. I kind of dig
this playlist, and I like the fact that we get
wagging tongue, speak to me, my favorite stranger soul with me.
I think it's unfortunate the Ghosts Again ended up in
the credits, but also my Cosmos is Mine. I just
I like the inclusion of the majority of the momento
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morey tracks that they were playing that they played on tour.
It's unfortunate that Before We Drown wasn't included, as it
is unfortunate in my view that Ghosts Again wasn't officially
in the set list. That being said, for me personally,
there's a Ghosts Again Live version that was shot from
a few rows back of where I saw them with
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my friend Matthew in Denver, and that's my go to
to go watch Ghosts Again Live, So listen either way.
Sixteen tracks for the film. It's a nice, nice, healthy amount.
Reminds me quite a bit of the tearing down that
was done for the devotional release. What I have seen
of the documentary so far has me excited. The stylistic
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choices that Fernando Freus made for the film. I think
it's gonna work quite nicely, and I certainly heard positive
things from the individuals that actually went and saw the film.
Hopefully we'll receive more official information about when it's coming
out and where we can watch it coming up sooner
than later. All right, let's get into your listener feedback
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this week. Again, leave a comment up on YouTube or
email me talkshow Nerd at gmail dot com. Chris Culpeper
writes this, I'm sure you've heard the Alan Wilder some
great Reward demos that he created solely with his vocals.
Nothing really impressive, he says, but still a cool find.
I have not heard those, and at some point coming
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up this weekend, just because I've been super busy, I'm
going to try to go and seek out to find
those because I have not heard those demos before. As
a matter of fact, I didn't even know that there
were demos created solely with Alan Wilder and his vocals,
So that's something that I need to go and track
down now. Chris goes on to ask which studio albums
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do you feel are inferior to Memento Mori, and then
he also says, have you ever considered incorporating fans questions
for you with a video accompaniment so you can see
or our face hear our words? Or is it too
much work? You know, listen, I would love to do that,
and I know I've said this a lot of times
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on the show. The difficulty that I have in doing
the show on a weekly basis is my time is
just so limited with my full time job, and so
I try to make sure that I can do a
show every week. And I would absolutely love to do
more with the show, including getting an abundance of guests
on the show. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time
to do so because my time fluctuates so much and
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I don't know when I'm going to or the podcast.
So I have a list of things that I would
love to do with the show in the future, but
it's only going to be able to come about if
one it's more financially viable, but more specifically and more importantly,
if I were to go and have the time to
do it, I just simply don't. I have an eighth
book idea for my Embark science fiction series that I
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would love to write, and I got started on a
while back, and even then I just simply don't have
the time to sit down and go and write the book.
So regarding the studio albums that I feel are inferior
to Momento Mari, this is really tough because I started
to sort of look at that question based off of
a Desert Island disc sort of concept of which albums
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would I take with me and which ones do I
find somewhat inferior. So I'll kind of track that and well,
I'll answer that question in the way that I've already
mentioned in terms of ranking Memento Moriy and that is
I would probably put everything Post Ultra as inferior to
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Memento may But I have a you know, I have
a difficult time even being that specific because there are
so many really good, strong tracks on other albums that
would keep me from not including them on a desert island. Thankfully,
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we don't have to go and do that, so let
me pare it down a little bit more. I would
definitely say that I feel Delta Machine and Spirit are
inferior to Memento moriy. I might slide in there Sounds
of the Universe, but there are some tracks on that
album that I absolutely love, you know, playing the Angel
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and I know a lot of people are down on Exciter,
but Exciter is such a unique and interesting album and
such as we talked about last week on the show,
a turning point for the band after everything they'd gone through.
It marks the new era with the singles tour behind them,
Alan's left the band. They did an album after Alan
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Dave got off of his drug addiction, and that EXCI
album really sets the stage for that next era of
the of the band. So I guess I would probably
have to go Delta Machine and Spirit, even though there
are aspects of both those albums I really enjoy. I
just feel like Memento Moriy overall is a complete package.
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Is just to solve a much better from top to bottom,
beginning to end representation of the band than those other
two albums are. There's a cohesiveness and a consistency. With
Delta Machine and Spirit, there's just this disjointedness in my
view in terms of the quality of the songs on
the album, and both of them could have been benefited
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by pairing back some of the tracks in which I
also had discussed on last week's show. So I kind
of danced around that a bit, Chris, but I hope
that ultimately answers your question. And either way, thank you
so much for the comment this week. All right, see
what ninety eight seventy eight on YouTube rights thanks to
the podcast episode. Your line in the end almost seems
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single worthy. Made me think it literally is the first
time that we have had more than one new DM
track between albums we had Shake the Disease and Only
When I Lose Myself and Martyr for the singles compilations
and the best of compilations. So four new tracks in
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between an album is a first in DM's history. So
what if we indeed get a single release and if
it is only digital on streaming of in the end
with M's cinema release since September or October, November, or
whenever the film comes out in cinemas, I'm sure a
physical release of all four tracks will follow later, not
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before M's physical release. So first off, let me push
back on one thing. I would include Surrender in there
with Only When I Lose Myself, as those were both
recorded during the Ultra sessions and came out well, one
of them ended up being a B side, obviously, but
they did come out post post Ultra, and it served
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as as a B side on one of the compilations
for the singles release. Right, But you are indeed right.
I mean, this is four new tracks, and I'm trying
to go back and think Dangerous, Sea of Sin, Happiest
Girl that was only three, right, So I'll repeat just
the commentary that I said before about those four unreleased tracks.
I think they're all four of them are of really
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good quality, and whether or not they release all four,
that's what I've been told is supposed to happen, that
all four are supposed to come out in promotion of
the album. It makes me wonder a little bit if
we'll get in the end with the release of the film.
But perhaps those three other tracks will be reserved for
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whenever the band, if the band ever decides to release
a vinyl single box set for the singles that were
released on the album. But Memento Mari was unique, and
the number of songs that they chose to have remixed
was certainly well beyond your typical singles released cycle attached
to the album. So I would really love to hear
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from you and your thoughts on what see what had
to say here regarding singles in between or B sides
in between albums and what kind of format we'll end
up getting those tracks in. And perhaps some of those
more notable listeners to the show that may have some
inside information that I can or cannot share, maybe they
would like to reach out to me and let me
know as well. I'll just leave it at that. Talkshow
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Nerd at Gmail dot com all right. Stephanie from the
Baltic Sea writes this, I don't have a song interrogator
on DM, but I've always wondered what a sound was
collected on pipeline? Is that a ping pong ball? I
have no idea, and is that really an engine starting
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on stripped? And does make amends and alibis and don't
say you love me, refer to home and the lyric line,
pretend that I'll make amends. That's it for me. Thanks
as always for the effort and the great thoughts on
the podcast. Best wishes from the Baltic Sea, Stephanie. So
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you know, Martin likes to revisit concepts and ideas and
song titles and song lyrics. There's no surprise about that.
So the make amends and alibis and the pretend that
I'll make amends, that doesn't surprise me. Martin's got his
own vernacular and certainly hasn't shied away from again repeating
certain types of phrases or the way that things are
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are worded. As I've said, one of the questions that
I would love to ask either of them when it
comes to Memento moriy were some of those moments on
the album intended to be nods to previous records. The
scratch squeal at the beginning of People Are Good that
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sounds just like it was lifted from I Feel You.
The sometimes out of Caroline's Monkey that sounds like it
came from Cleans as well. So I would very much
be curious. I'm very curious to know whether or not
they did those things intentionally in terms of the sampling
that was done. The best source for that would be
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to go back to those remastered documentaries and especially the
ones for some Great Reward construction time again. In Black Celebration,
they get into a lot of detail in terms of
what they used for sound sampling. One of the coolest
ones I always thought was when for well, it's either
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Black Celebration or fly on the wind screen. I want
to say it's Black Celebration, and I know that you
listening will correct me if it's not. But where they
set up the mics in the field and they had
the fireworks that were going off over might have been
flying on the wind screen. It's been a long morning.
I did the show already today and then the starting
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engine on strip. Yeah, I believe that was one of
the label Guys's Porsche, right or was it actually was
it Jonathan Kessler's Porsche? I know it was somebody's Porsche
that they ended up sampling for the starting up of
the of the of the at the at the beginning
of Stripped. Sorry, I'm beginning to fade. Can you tell?
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You kind of hit that point as a broadcaster when
you do so much work and when I enter into
sort of a four hour mark that that's when I
begin to sort of trip myself up. And I'm about
there because I also recorded my Star Wars podcast just
before I sat down to record this one. So, as always, Stephanie,
thank you so much for the comment. This week, all right,
let's also hear from Ricardo Gomez, who writes this. I
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reached out a while back to share how Depeche Mode
has been the soundtrack of my life. Their music has
journeyed with me through nearly every season, good and bad.
This year, my wife and I are celebrating twenty nine
years of marriage. Congratulations. My wife and I just celebrated
our twenty fifth. When we first started dating, she quickly
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learned Depeche Mode was my favorite band, and I doubt
she'd realized that by marrying me, she'd be welcoming them,
welcoming them into the family too. Yeah, I lucked out
because Melinda was already a fan of Depeche Mode when
we met, so that was pretty awesome. Certainly not as
hardcore as I am, but she did go to many
shows during the Excited tour with me. One of our
early good byes was her seeing me off as I
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left for a short trip to Sacramento to catch the
Exotic Tour with a group of friends. Our first concert
together was the Singles Tour in ninety eight, and she
joined me at nearly every show I've attended since. We
hit a rough patch in the mid two thousands, right
around the time of Playing the Angel. That album always
takes me back to that difficult time, and I'm grateful
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we made it through. I know the record stirs up
some heavy memories for you too. It's wild how Martin's
lyrics felt like they were written just for me during
that time. Yeah, and you know what, I know that
I've made mention of it, obviously you brought it up.
But Playing the Angel is the one that I've got
to do something to break the nostalgia feels attached to
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that record. It is, and I haven't done a lot
of research on it, and maybe I should, but there's
got to be a way to do that. There are
several albums in my life, for good and bad, that
are associated with very specific times. Playing The Angel is
one of them. I was living in Grand Rapids, Michigan,
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going through a difficult time with the radio station. Melinda
was pregnant with Kyle, who is now going on nineteen
in December, and every that album came out right in
the middle of all that turmoil, and there's a very specific, unnerving,
nostalgic feeling that I have when I listen to that record.
The worst one for me is another band that I
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absolutely love, and that's Churches and their album Screen Violence
is absolutely fantastic. I love that record, but unfortunately I
fell in love to that record at the moment when
I was dealing with a myriad of health issues that
ended up leading into my third open heart surgery and
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going through one of the worst periods of my life
in terms of anxiety, topping it off with the loss
of my friend. I'm so thankful that Memento Morey came
out after all of that, because that album could have
been the album that was tainted, and screen violence is
so tainted for me, I cannot listen to it because
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it immediately brings those feelings of that period of time
and it bums me. It absolutely bums me out, and
I haven't I haven't looked into how to break from that.
There's got to be a way to do it. I've
just simply avoided listening to both of those albums, and
including playing the Angel Now I can listen to some
of the singles off of it doesn't bother me. But
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listening to that album top to bottom, it's it's really difficult,
and it sucks because it's a great album, all right.
Getting back to Ricardo's comments, Depeche Mode is almost always
playing in our home or on the road. One of
my favorite things is watching Amanda sing along, comment on
a lyric or point out a sound that stands out
to her. Her favorite song is Condemnation, and seeing her
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light up when they played it live in Los Angeles
in March of twenty twenty three was priceless. As for
in the end, I honestly think it would have fit
perfectly with Memento Moriy maybe right in between Never Let
Me Go and speak to me, and hey, now I've
got the perfect song to play during my life. Clyde's
show at my funeral will own nothing in the end.
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Thanks for what you do. Keep up the great work,
Ricardo Gomez. I actually think that in the end, Well
speak to Me, I think really caps the album alf
Well Memento Moriy less about the lyrical content and more
about the music itself, which makes sense. I think the
band kind of eyed that song to be the last
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song on the album, and James Ford and Martas so Longney,
as has been documented, were the ones that created the
music for that. Dave gave them permission, so they really
do go and it really does sort of cap off
the album. That being said in the end, would have
been the perfect finale from a Mento Maury. It's an
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absolutely fantastic song and I am so excited to eventually
get a clean copy of that. I'm glad the copy
that I have is as good as it is, but
the production work on that album and Spirit is so
fantast in my opinion. The sound quality is just great.
I don't have the greatest stereo in my car, but
I can crank Momento Mori and it does not deliver
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any sort of distortion or loss of the quality of
the music and the intricacies of the different layers that
they used in those songs. The production work is just fantastic.
I cannot say the same thing for an album like
Songs of Faith and Devotion, which is just a bummer
to me. I cannot crank that record because it just
ends up becoming sort of a washed wall of sound
that it's really really disappointing. I want to add one
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more thought on this, though, I have the algorithm on
social media has been feeding me a lot of clips
about Depeche Mode from other fans, and if you're not
on social media, I want to share this with you.
It is really amazing to see the number of young
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people who have found Depeche Mode and are now fans
like you and I were back at that age. I'm
talking individuals in their twenties early twenties who post videos
dancing and singing along to, you know, various tracks. There
seems to be no specificity relating to a particular era.
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I've heard songs from the latter era albums, I've heard
songs from the early part of their career. In these
particular clips It speaks to how this music resonates with
young people the way that it did for us those
decades ago it still does today. It reminds me a
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bit of getting into getting into music and seeing people
wearing Jimmy Hendrick shirts or Beatle shirts or rolling stones. Yeah,
they were still making music, but this was sort of
older generation music and young people finding these bands that
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had been around or had already come and gone. I'm
seeing the same thing happened now with depeche Mode, and
it's really really amazing to see that there is a
brand new, whole new generation out there finding this band,
to the point where if the band toured again, because
I think this is a relatively new phenomenon of young
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people finding Depeche Mode on social networking, if the band
were to tour again, I'm gonna venture a guest that
a lot of these a lot of these kids, because
I don't think all of these individuals are finding it
because of their parents. I think they're finding the band
on their own. I would venture a guest that you
would see a much younger audience along with us old farts, right,
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us older devotees. I don't think I've ever referred to
myself as an old fart, but I just did I
think we would see a lot more young people showing
up at the show. I could be wrong on that,
but I just wanted to share it with you because
it was really cool to see so many young individuals
making these videos and show sharing their own devotion to
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the band. Makes you wonder too, like what would they look?
How do us older longtime Depeche Mode fans look to
individuals like that? So Hey, as always, thank you so
much for checking out the podcast. I hope you'll also
check out my science fiction series if you're into science fiction.
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It's a seven book series available in audiobook, ebook free
on Kindle unlimited, hardcover, and paperback. I toy around with
the descriptions of the book to see what sells better.
I decided to go back to the beginning and I
lifted the actual description off the back of the of
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Book one, and I'm using that currently to go and
promote the book. I don't think i've shared it on
the show before. I made a couple of slight adjustments,
but if you're interested in reading my book series, this
is the original description for Book one that I wrote
when the book first came out. It's twenty one seventy two.
In flight culture has replaced car culture. Two of Earth's
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largest corporations now supplied the planet with a technology and
fuel to make air and spaceflight available to everyone. Taft
Guardia spends his weekends at an abandoned flying field, racing
through the skies with his three best friends and the
girl that he longs to be with, Katha Morrow. After
receiving a mysterious message from her deceased aerospace engineer father,
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Katha and Taff to make a shocking discovery. With Earth
now suddenly facing a great disaster, a ruthless and power
hungry enemy emerges. Unwittingly, Taft, Katha, and their friends are
thrust into the middle of humanity's fight for survival and
future among the stars. Listen, pick up and bark book
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one today. It's a fun, fast paced, in action packed
epic space opera adventure without an agenda. It's also got
some Depeche Mode references, as the main character is a
massive Depeche Mode fan at a time when the music
through the eighties through the two thousands is nostalgic and popular.
Among the characters of the story, Thank you so much
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for checking out this week's episode. I'll be back again
next week. Until then, I hope to hear from you,
and I hope wherever you are you are happy, you're healthy,
and you're safe. I'll talk to you then. Bye. Hello,
this is MOI, this is dig depeche Mode, and you
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